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Rhetorical gimmicks no substitute for oil exploration

By Jim Wooten | Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 07:27 AM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Tough call.

Do we go with Indigo Girl Amy Ray on nuclear energy? Or do we go with the thoughtful, wise and deliberate Johnny Isakson? Close call. Really tough. A lot of good policy truth comes out of the entertainment industry.

Her view is that “nuclear power is not the answer to our energy dilemmas.” His is that “Democrats must be willing to embrace nuclear energy for electricity and responsible exploration of our oil and gas resources in Alaska, Colorado, Montana and North Dakota, as well as in the Gulf of Mexico and off the Atlantic coast.” Republicans, in return, “must be willing to embrace conservation initiatives as well as alternatives such as solar and wind energy.”

Hmmm. I’ll take Sen. Isakson’s position. Besides, neither he nor anybody else in a responsible position has suggested that nuclear power is “the answer” to our energy insufficiency. On virtually nothing is one approach “the” solution to a problem, or the cause of it.

To Barack Obama, there are at least two causes of $4 gas. One is Big Oil’s profits, which he’d tax away. The other is speculation in oil markets, which he’d regulate more heavily. In the Obama world, more taxes and more regulation are the combination of solutions to most every problem that can’t be solved by more spending.

U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss, at a Senate hearing last week, noted that in futures contracts for the benchmark West Texas Intermediate Crude Oil, the evidence does not confirm that speculation has been a major contributor to the run-up in prices. “The data shows that while there may have been an increase in market participation overall,” Chambliss said of oil futures in domestic trading, “the proportion of positions held by commercial participants … and noncommercial … has not changed over the past two years. Speculation … seems to have held steady at about 20 percent.”

Commercial participants are those like MARTA that attempt to lock in future gasoline costs and fully intend to take delivery. Noncommercial represents speculation.

The precise role of speculation worldwide is not yet known, but there is a danger here that politicians, like Obama, can make matters considerably worse. “There is speculation in all commodity markets, just as there is in the stock market,” said Chambliss. Any exchange in any country can list oil contracts for trading without any approval from the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission. It may be physically delivered here, but it can be traded anywhere.

A knee-jerk reaction on the part of politicians can’t stop worldwide speculation, if indeed it’s a problem, but it can drive trading markets overseas, as has been done with the so-called IPOs, or initial public offerings of companies. Most of those are now going to England and elsewhere, he said.

The rhetorical gimmicks —- taxing Big Oil, closing what Obama calls the “Enron loophole” that exempts some electronic trading from U.S. regulation, or nationalizing the oil companies —- are campaign fodder. They’re distractions, not substitutes for exploration, for adding refinery capacity and for nuclear. Even John McCain’s proposal to give a $300 million taxpayer-funded “prize,” amounting to $1 for every man, woman and child in the country, to the inventor of an auto battery that will deliver power at 30 percent of the current cost is a desperation gimmick from a politician who wants to be seen as offering a solution.

McCain, like Obama, opposes drilling on a small portion of the 19 million-acre Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. McCain has come to recognize the essential importance of exploration on the outer continental shelf; Obama is in la-la lockdown, still dreaming. Some 97 percent of the 2 billion acres of the OCS, which contains an estimated 86 billion barrels of oil, is currently off-limits to exploration. The U.S consumes about 7.5 billion barrels of oil per year.

U.S. Rep. Lynn Westmoreland of Grantville, a Republican, has gathered the signatures of 174 of his colleagues on a pledge. It reads: “I will vote to increase U.S. oil production to lower gas prices for Americans.” That’s it. Simple. But it gets to the heart of the problem. “Supplying our energy needs requires ‘all of the above’,” said Westmoreland. That includes “conservation, alternative energy development and increased supply of oil,” he said.

There’s not one solution. But there’s no solution without more exploration. Open ANWR and the outer continental shelf.

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By Tom Ga Hunter

June 24, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

Johnny has had 2 & Saxby 6 years to do something but have been more worried about subsidies for the rich. How can the these 2 RHINOes be trusted to do anything right?

By reebok

June 24, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this

If high gas prices force American business, industry and consumers to do what we otherwise would not do - that is, face the fact that the fossil-fuel orgy is coming to an end - then it’s good for us and good for the environment. Change never comes without pain.

By ron

June 24, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

I have no problem with oil exploration,even in my back yard.Go for it.I have no problem with Nuclear power plants,let’s start building tomorrow.I have no problem with McCain’s prize.Set rigid standards for a battery for the future and when they are met,award the prize and let the company that wins start producing batteries. Get corn out of the ethanol business.Build concentrated solar power plants.Build wind farms.Build tidal power plants.Curb oil usage in this country any way you possibly can.

Great Britain has started a program to tax gas guzzlers out of existence.It would be kinder to everyone involved if we just stopped manufacturing them.Let the ones in existence die of old age.

We need to take a hard look at every unoccoupied building in this ountry that is heated and cooled with no one inside them.I mean churches and schools and malls and office buildings.If there are no people present,no heat,no cool.

We are a nation of energy guzzlers and we are going to be forced to change.Get ready.

By Marta Rails

June 24, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

If the price of oil surged because of speculation, then this is a gas bubble, and will pass, gone with the wind, but not without a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing more than a carbon tax. (or someone holding his hand under his armpit and pumping away)

Speculation is cited often as a factor in oil price surges. Seculation is human nature, which itself is governed by emotionally based predictions about the future. Lets see, what could have gone wrong.

There wasn’t supposed to be a war. The uncertainty that the Iraq War lends to all predictions must play a major role in the speculation.

Wooten today needed a scape goat. Clinton? no, Carter? no. It’s not the two clowns in office’s fault. It couldn’t be their fault, they didn’t do nothing except attack the wrong country for 911. No, it’s lesbian folk rock singer’s fault. It’s peewee herman’s fault.

Space Cadet Conservatism is dead because the planet’s gravity became a partisan issue for them. It’s like they’re allergic to physics. The world the GOP fancied is gone, and they’re not so much men without a country, as creatures without a planet.

This flight from reality must be drug induced. War is a drug. Greed is a drug. Righteousness is a drug. Woe to he who is wise in his own eyes.

Invading Iraq unleashed every possible variation of Montezuma’s Revenge and the Curse of the Pharoahs upon those who would dare unlock Iraq’s Pandora’s Box of vengence-seeking spirits.

If republicans cant believe in physics then maybe they can believe in superstition.

By Redneck Convert

June 24, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

Well, a oil derrick in every back yard and a atomic plant in every town, is what I say.

We need gas bad and cheap too. I don’t want to wind up driving one of those little toys with barely enough room for a driver much less the missus. If I wind up having to park the Ford F-450 all the fun in the world will end.

Anyhow, everybody wants a Ford pickup. Every day my ears get blasted by all the ads by car people screaming at the poor deaf people that don’t know where they can get a pickup. And you can’t run them without more oil.

So drill away, I say. A woman in Congress said yesterday that the oil pipes in Alaska would give the mooses a warm place to have coffee and cake like the brainless women that go to birthday parties and drink Mogen David wine at them.

Its as plain as the nose on your face. We need to drill, drill, drill. We’ll worry about running out of oil when it happens. We shouldn’t be changing our lifes around just because gas is getting a little scarce.

Besides, its a good Republican plan. We can make people beleive the gas prices are the Democrats fault. That way we can elect old man McCain. Even if he is a librul. Leastwise he’s our librul. And White too.

Have a good day everybody.

By Get Real

June 24, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

“I will vote to increase U.S. oil production to lower gas prices for Americans.” That’s it. Simple. So how will that lower gas prices in the coming days and months Wooten? Your propaganda with oil is eerily similar to that of building more highways and forgetting about any type of public transit. Drilling off the coasts, ANWR or anywhere else you’re proposing won’t lower the cost of oil for at least 7-10 years. Even then it will only lower it by less than a quarter. Your slight of hand rhetoric is completely flawed. The oil companies, with their record profits, have not put a new refinery online in over 30 years. That doesn’t need any government oversight, yet they refuse to do it. These same oil companies are already leasing from the government millions of acres that they have yet to drill in. They claim they’re just ‘exploring’ those parts. So if they haven’t drilled for oil in land the government has already leased to them, why give them more? Explain that one Wootie.

Your entire post can be summed up in four words: drill more, and nuclear. Nothing like making big corporations more money. If Brazil can become completely energy independent by using sugar cane, surely we can find a way to wean ourselves off of oil completely. Your plan is nothing more than a rhetorical gimmick. Oh, someone used that already.

By Willie

June 24, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

Ron; Do not compare anything we do to Europe…Be a man, be an American for once.

Reebok…Who have you been listening to? Oil is going to stay longer than you…stop drinking the coolaid..

We drill, we build nuclear plants, we build more refineries, and we charge Florida and California $10 a gallon for gas for holding the US hostage against future drilling and refinery building.

By TW

June 24, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten - today’s column makes you a part of the ‘w’ debate.

You are either delusional or deceitful.

By willie

June 24, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

Redneckconvert…still drinking that liberal coolaide and swallowing that liberal propoganda with sense of humor I see. I guess none of you liberals talked to the pro’s about drilling oil off shore. I guess the liberal misinformation machine emailed you what to think and say. That makes sense now to hear these outrageous LIES you are spewing.

By Tom Ga Hunter

June 24, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

Bet the pledge,“I will vote to increase U.S. oil production to lower gas prices for Americans.” That’s it. Simple. does not include the elimination of the $.51 per gallon duty on imported ETHANOL is not included. That would help the people of Georgia but hurt SAXBY’s out of state special interest & we all know who is 1st in Saxby’s heart. Saxby’s lobbiest is going to get really rich on this joke on the US taxpayer.

By Fix-It

June 24, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

All right Willie, I am with you 100%

By Marta Rails

June 24, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

If the price of oil surged because of speculation, then this is a gas bubble, and will pass, gone with the wind, but not without a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing more than a carbon tax. (or someone holding his hand under his armpit and pumping away)

Speculation is cited often as a factor in oil price surges. Seculation is human nature, which itself is governed by emotionally based predictions about the future. Lets see, what could have gone wrong.

There wasn’t supposed to be a war. The uncertainty that the Iraq War lends to all predictions must play a major role in the speculation.

Wooten today needed a scape goat. Clinton? no, Carter? no. It’s not the two clowns in office’s fault. It couldn’t be their fault, they didn’t do nothing except attack the wrong country for 911. No, it’s lesbian folk rock singer’s fault. It’s peewee herman’s fault.

Space Cadet Conservatism is dead because the planet’s gravity became a partisan issue for them. It’s like they’re allergic to physics. The world the GOP fancied is gone, and they’re not so much men without a country, as creatures without a planet.

This flight from reality must be drug induced. War is a drug. Greed is a drug. Righteousness is a drug. Woe to he who is wise in his own eyes.

Invading Iraq unleashed every possible variation of Montezuma’s Revenge and the Curse of the Pharoahs upon those who would dare unlock Iraq’s Pandora’s Box of vengence-seeking spirits.

If republicans cant believe in physics then maybe they can believe in superstition.

Superstition like orange alerts and poll numbers. Orange alerts are the new Superdelegates. McCain’s advisors speculates about polls after another 911 and McCain’s polls surge. If the american sheep smell a wolf before November then McCain could win.

it’s the only way. What could Obama counter with: “Trees are producing 36% more oxygen. American’s are light headed and dont know what they’re doing?”

By Copyleft

June 24, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

In the face of overwhelming outrage against this disastrous Republican regime and its legacy, it’s cute to see Wooten try to claim “sound energy policy” as a REPUBLICAN issue.

Good luck with that, Mr. Wooten. Good luck.

By Jim is an ostrich

June 24, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

Jim, please wake up to the greater world out there. Read Thomas Friedman’s piece from the Sunday NYT. Get your head out of the metaphorical sand. The debate goes beyond “drill more”, just like the traffic and congestion debate here goes beyond “build more capacity”. Try being a forward thinker, not just a “how do I keep Barack Obama from being elected” kind of guy. Then again, you’ve never been a country, state or city first man, but only a me, Republican and rich first schlub. Sad.

By zeke

June 24, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

WAY TO GO JIM! LAY IT ON THE LIBERALS! MAYBE WE CAN BAN ALL LIBERALS, SOCIALIST, POPULIST, COMMUNIST, FASCISTS, MARXISTS, ENVIRONMENTAL RADICALS LIKE THE SIERRA CLUB and PROGRESSIVES ( THE NEW CODE WORD FOR LIBERAL COMMUNISTS ) from our country!

By Tom Ga Hunter

June 24, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

Bet this cost some out of state special interest a pretty penny……”U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss, at a Senate hearing last week, noted that in futures contracts for the benchmark West Texas Intermediate Crude Oil, the evidence does not confirm that speculation has been a major contributor to the run-up in prices. “The data shows that while there may have been an increase in market participation overall,” Chambliss said of oil futures in domestic trading, “the proportion of positions held by commercial participants … and noncommercial … has not changed over the past two years. Speculation … seems to have held steady at about 20 percent.””

By Godhelpus

June 24, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

Willie,

You don’t even know how to spell KOOL AID and you want your position on energy alternatives to be taken seriously?

Provide any data or statistics that project the financial benefits of drilling in ANWR and the effect it will have on future gas prices.

You might also care to explain how privatizing this will benefit the US consumer. Global companies regulate supply, they choose how much to produce and refine. do you honestly think Exxonmobile or bp, when given the drilling contracts are going to substantially lower their profits? They are going to charge what the market can bear, and they know the market can bear five-dollar gas in the US.

The only way domestic drilling could help, was if it was nationalized and outside of OPEC. But of course, that won’t happen.

I suggest u stop drinking the KOOL AID, given to you by the Rush’s of the world, and don’t worry, Obama won’t come close to outspending the knuckleheads in office now.

By HIDT

June 24, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

Nuclear will be more palatable to some if you point out how the French embrace it.

Just a spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down … the medicine go down … etc.

By Tim

June 24, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

The US is the third largest producer of oil in the WORLD!!! If more of the oil that is currently being drilled here were kept here, we would be in much better shape. The problem is that our oil, like every thing else is for sale. The same corporate interest that beg for more drilling would like nothing more than to get more so that we can sell more to someone else. At some point we need to set aside our quest for more money and focus on doing whats best for America and Americans.And in this case nationalizing some of our oil resources might be the best route to go. We need to keep our oil for us.

By ron

June 24, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

Willie,You mean be a man like my neighbor is a man?He fills his 28 gallon pick-up tank twice a week and doesn’t cry real tears.Is that the kind of man you were referring to Willie? 4wheel drive,Willie,and I doubt if it’s ever left the pavement.

By Copyleft

June 24, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Always nice to see Zeke out there fighting for freedom and showing America what the ignorant right wing REALLY stands for.

Keep up the good work, Zeke! You’re doing your part to ensure a liberal America, this November and onward!

By TW

June 24, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Jim - Though I will give you the benefit of the doubt by concluding that you are delusional, I am curious to why there’s no mention of McSame’s big oil sleeping buddies - Phil Gramm, Wayne Berman, and Charlie Black…wait…aren’t those guys part of his campaign????

Nah…McSame wouldn’t do that to the average joe. That’s why he argued again’t the Enron loophole…before he didn’t vote against it…er…oops…

Not so slowly, the ‘Straight Talk Express’ continues to evolve into a wobbley unicycle…

By Mike K.

June 24, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Some 97 percent of the 2 billion acres of the OCS, which contains an estimated 86 billion barrels of oil, is currently off-limits to exploration. The U.S consumes about 7.5 billion barrels of oil per year.

How about the oil companies drill in the acreage they are already allowed to drill in? 3/4 of that land isn’t even being used. I’d also like to see where Jim gets his figures for the potential oil in the OCS-I’ve never heard a figure that high.

By Jim is an ostrich

June 24, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

And, oh, by the way, lovely straw man set up at the beginning. What do the opinions of Emily Ray have to do with anything? Is she running against “Special Interest” Saxby? Does she have a place at the table for making energy policy, either for the White House, Congress or any other policy-making entity? Did someone say that her ideas and opinions were to be implemented as policy? No, you say? Are you sure? Then why is her name even being brought up? Jim, any explanation?

By Fix-It

June 24, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Hey Mike, do you know why they don’t drill on the acreage they already have leases on? Because there is no oil there, this is a big ploy by the left and you fell into it. Believe me if there was oil, profit, there they would be drilling.

By Get Real

June 24, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Tim @ 9:23 although your argument is on point, your facts are wrong. The U.S. isn’t the the third largest oil producer in the world. It goes like this:

Top Ten Oil Producing Countries Saudi Arabia (8.73 million barrels per day) Russia (6.67) Norway (2.91) Iran (2.55) Venezuela (2.36) United Arab Emirates (2.33) Kuwait (2.20) Nigeria (2.19) Mexico (1.80) Algeria (1.68)

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. Skipped coffee today and inadvertently posted on the wrong board this morning. Let that be a lesson for all.

The only problem in the energy market is government interference. But for government interference, we would have nuclear energy running out of our ears and we would all be driving electric cars. The same mentality that crippled energy production for the past 35 years continues unabated among our leftists, who are determined to “pick winners” on behalf of all of us. If you don’t quit picking at it, it will never heal. Don’t vote to increase any government activity, vote to eliminate legislative and judicial restrictions.

By George Washington

June 24, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

While the chattering class rambles on mindlessly, a foreign country is plotting to involve America in another foreign war. An Israeli air attack on Iran would require Israel’s american supplied and armed aircraft to fly thru American controlled air space in Iraq, an act of complicity that will not go un noticed in Iran. Israel fully expects free passage and PROTECTION from american forces in Iraq and the Persian gulf, allowing them to refuel their aircraft without threat of attack by Persian aircraft. Israel has no chance of destroying Iran’s nuclear program, and that is not their mission….The mission is to provoke Iran into rightly retaliating against America for the Israeli air attack on Iran. This allows the Chimp and his neoSCUM handlers to claim America was attacked first by Iran….Wrong, America’s foreign masters will attack Iran first, then run with their tails between their two hind legs, like the cowards they are, for cover behind the american fleet and its airpower….Time to kick israel and its supporters out of america, deny israel american protection, and arrest and punish all neocons, the stining scum bags…..

By Maniac is accurate

June 24, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Amen, BFKaJ. And, how did they like your energy post on the MOMania blog? Bet they were confused.

By CommunistAJC

June 24, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

Copyleft, Always nice to see you’ve crawled out of the sewer. Great comments from an uneducated nitwit.

DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW!

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Dear Get Real @ 9:53, http://www.swivel.com/data_sets/show/1003356 US produces 7 million/day

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

Dear Maniac @ 10:06, worked out pretty well - propositioned by two housewives desparately seeking energy

By ###

June 24, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

It’s always interesting to see how Mr. Wooten chooses to make every issue a Republican vs. Democrat, conservative vs. liberal fight. It is exactly that type of divisiveness that has caused so many people to flock to the Obama campaign (and I say that as someone who has not been an enthusiastic supporter of the Senator). I’d be interested in hearing Mr. Wooten’s thoughts on SOLUTIONS for a change, instead of his normal partisan attacks.

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Dear Ostrich @ 9:51, for benefit of all of us, please distinguish Emily Ray’s energy policy from Obama’s.

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Dear #### @ 10:15, you are correct to perceive that Obama’s policies cannot stand up in any analytical comparison to conservative policies, and that he can only survive by prohibiting any contrast of costs and benefits of the programs under consideration. Why is it that leftists are so hostile to free thinking and intelligent debate?

By Dennis

June 24, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten, Sometimes when I read your column I don’t know whether to laugh or cry, or both.

You quote Isakson and Chambliss as though the both of them were as straight as arrows.

But then, you still do the same thing for George W. Bush.

And this, “U.S. Rep. Lynn Westmoreland of Grantville, a Republican, has gathered the signatures of 174 of his colleagues on a pledge. It reads: “I will vote to increase U.S. oil production to lower gas prices for Americans.” That’s it. Simple. But it gets to the heart of the problem.”

It reminds me of the abstinance pledges kids sign in church not to have sex before they are married.

When the fact is that kids who go to church are having just as much sex as kids who do not.

If Lynn Westmoreland and his 174 friends (of whatever political party) really cared for this country, they would have charged George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and a host of others for war crimes and treason againist THIS country.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By getalife

June 24, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

If the godfather of global warming is right, 2012 will be a terrible year.

Extreme weather will be the number one threat pushing terrorism out of the right’s scared little minds.

They will cower under their beds every time it thunders.

Anyhoo, our government is broken with no solutions. You may want to listen to General Honoree and prepare for the upcoming disasters.

By h

June 24, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

to Zeke @ 9:16

Please for the love of God if you are going to write in all caps, at least be factually correct.

For the last time, Fascists are not related to liberals. Not even close. Fascists are FAR RIGHT! (i.e Nazi’s) Marxists, communists, socialists are FAR LEFT. Do not group these together as GW and the rest of the Fascists hate to be associated with Obama and the marxists.

By getalife

June 24, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

“Oil prices “will not come down,” OPEC president Chakib Khelil said Tuesday, assuring that the oil cartel has already done what it can on the matter. “OPEC has already done what OPEC can do and prices will not come down,” Khelil told journalists as he arrived for a meeting with EU energy officials in Brussels.”

Deal with it.

By Mike K.

June 24, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Fix-It@9:53:

I agree with you that there is probably not enough oil in those areas to justify the oil companies drilling there. Have they come out and said as much? If they have I haven’t read anything about that. And please don’t blame the “liberal media” for not reporting on it because oil is a big story, plus I’m sure FOX or other bloggers would have something about it.

And I think the main problem for the oil companies (other than the fact that idiots actually buy into the “Big Oil is hoarding all the supplies” theory) is they are terrible at PR. If they held a press conference and said “look-we’ve done exploration there and there just isn’t anything in those areas. However, in Area X over here there is a pretty good chance of finding some significant oil,” I think that most people would be satisfied with that answer.

I also believe the long term solution to our energy issues is to use numerous types of energy-Nuclear, solar, wind, and oil (yes oil too because it is used in so many other items than just powering our cars and trucks). I think the Saudis are scared S**tless right now because they don’t want us to wean ourself off the oil. The only thing I can’t figure out is how to get rid of the nuclear waste. Maybe we can shoot it into the sun.

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Dear h @ 10:28, Zeke got it right. You are unable to articulate any Fascist or Nazi policy that is not based on government control of industry, either through regulation or direct ownership. That is leftism.

By DaveD

June 24, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

And what was/is Johnny “rubber stamp for Bubble Boy Bush” Isakson’s expertise when it comes to Nuclear power? What schooling has he had that makes him so very full of knowledge on this issue? Does his years of selling and developing real estate in GA make him more qualified than Amy Ray? It would come as no surprise to me if Amy Ray herself knew much more about Nuclear energy.

Also, PLEASE stop continuing to spin the “outright lie” that drilling in ANWAR will bring down oil prices. The price of oil would not change. Nor would the price of gas.

Even if we allow our own “american” companies to tap into the oil (yet it’s “International” companies that would also be allowed to drill), the price of the oil sold would not be set by them. The price of oil is controlled by both OPEC and the market system. The oil companies themselves do not have the freedom to sell directly to us at a lower price. Drilling in ANWAR will not even make a 1 penny difference in the price we consumers pay. Stop spinning you Fox News bullsh!t along with the other talibangelicals here and say that we will have cheap oil if we drill in ANWAR. Though I never agree with anything you write or have to say, I know you have the intelligence to understand how the oil markets truly work…. or do you?

By hillbilly ragger

June 24, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

Jim, what happens when we do the exploration and fuel prices don’t go down?

Do those 174 co-signers fall on their swords? Will it be a pay-per-view event?

By @@

June 24, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

The possible. The plausible. The probable. The Good The Bad & The Ugly of political campaigns.

Jim, it looks like we’ve got a divide between the all for one or one for all options.

I’ll go with the one for all.

And while we’re at it…invest my family’s $3.00 in yankee ingenuity. I believe that it’s the best thing we’ve got going for us.

It would appear that John McCain believes in it too.

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Dear DaveD @ 10:40, you err. Drilling in ANWR will drive down the relative price of oil, by increasing the supply. I understand that leftists do not understand supply and demand very well, but suggesting that the laws of supply and demand are “lies” does not enhance the competence of your argument.

By liberalidiots

June 24, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

The problem with liberals can be summed up this way. The vast majority of self proclaimed liberals never take ANY economic classes and avoid them like the plague. They spend most of their time reading Noam Chomsky and studying up on Che. That’s the very reason you see most of them with degrees in liberal arts or pottery. They waste daddys “evil” credit cards on weed and I hate Bush t-shirts. Any disagreements? Also, polls show that liberals are the most unhappy people in America.

By fairy god mother

June 24, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

BFKaJ..You seem to know everything, yet you know nothing these are the facts on ANWR….

“Producing oil from the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska could cut crude oil prices by about 75 cents per barrel by 2025, the Energy Department said Thursday in a special analysis prepared for Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska.”

By Dennis

June 24, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

For BFKaJ

Lefts understand supply and demand.

What rightest, like you, don’t understand is that it takes a few years to bring an oil field into productivity.

We don’t find oil one day and gas prices drop the next.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Macca

June 24, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

A question for Jim, BFKaJ, et.al.: If drilling offshore and in ANWR is such a great idea, why wasn’t it passed 3 years ago when the Repub’s still controlled both Houses of Congress?? Just wondering.

By h

June 24, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

To BFKaJ: Sorry, but you are incorrect. I submit the following for your review.

Fascism: modern political ideology that seeks to regenerate the social, economic, and cultural life of a country by basing it on a heightened sense of national belonging or ethnic identity. Fascism rejects liberal ideas such as freedom and individual rights, and often presses for the destruction of elections, legislatures, and other elements of democracy. Fascism is strongly associated with right-wing fanaticism, racism, totalitarianism, and violence.

Communism: As a political movement, communism sought to overthrow capitalism through a workers’ revolution and establish a system in which property is owned by the community as a whole rather than by individuals. In theory, communism would create a classless society of abundance and freedom, in which all people enjoy equal social and economic status.

Those are the true definitions. These ideals are more than just control of industry as you state. I am merely suggesting when one uses the terms of Fascist and Communist then one understand the true meanings behind the words.

By Tim

June 24, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

BFKaJ @10:49

We all understand supply and demand, But you are a fool if you think that the OPEC nations will maintain their current production levels if doing so means lower profits. OPEN YOUR EYES!! Please know that as they control most of the supply their actions will always be to prop up their profits. The free market principles don’t completely work in this case because there is not open competition. A single organization controls the flow for the most part. They have the gold, so they make the rules. Any drilling that does not completely take them out of the mix will equate to a drop of rain in a thunderstorm.

By ###

June 24, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Dear BFKaJ @ 10:24am. I was not making any statement on the validity of Senator Obama’s policy positions. I was raising the question of why Mr. Wooten is intent on always pitting people against each other. He never makes any constructive comments. It’s always him against the big bad liberals. Or whomever he has decided that morning is a big bad liberal. I will leave the defense of Senator Obama’s policy positions up to the very smart people who are working for him.

By @@

June 24, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Hey!!

Hey!!!

HEY LIBERALIDIOTS:

I turn pottery, and it makes me very happy when I do.

:-)

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

Dear h @ 11:08, you err. Leftism also rejects “liberal” ideas such as freedom and individual rights. We have often written on this blog about the deception in modern leftism, attempting to make big government palatable by stealing name in order to appropriate the virtues long associated with classical liberalism. I am quite comfortable that I am one of the few liberals on this blog. There are no leftists on this board who can measure up to a standard of “liberal,” as they all seek to control the choices of their fellow men.

By h

June 24, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

to liberalidiots

Actually, I have a MBA from a well respected univeristy, work for an accounting firm and LOVE economics. I have never smoked weed, and do not have any “I hate bush shirts”

Just for fun, heres my ideas of conservatives:

Use Daddy’s connections to get them degrees at universities in whatever Daddy’s money can buy, Don’t know how to read anything other than the bible (king James version), run screaming for their nearest AK-47 if they see anyone who looks remotely middle-eastern, is terrified of “those people” as RedNeck Convert puts it, walk around with rose colored glasses and closed minds.

By Truthifier

June 24, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Putting environmental and conservation concerns aside, I really have no idea if drilling in ANWR will provide any improvement in the price of gasoline at the corner gas station. However, for those who are strongly in favor of drilling, I have noticed that they never use the phrase “economically recoverable.” Some say that there are vast amounts of oil in ANWR, while others say that there isn’t that much. Realistically, we all know that the answer is probabably somewhere in the middle. The real question though, is no matter how much oil is to be found under ANWR, how much of it can be extracted at a profit? If the cost of extracting the oil is greater than the profit the oil company is going to make when selling it, then the oil is not “economically recoverable.” I believe this is the reason that the oil companies have not accessed the 68 million acres of Federal lands already available for oil and natural gas exploration — it just isn’t worth it to them financially.

By fairy god mother

June 24, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

DEAR BFKaJ … I have yet to see you rise in defense of your erroneous comment on drilling in ANWR..How about it?

You don’t know what your talking about do you?

By Thomas Jefferson

June 24, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

BFKaJ, armchair philosophers like you contribute nothing with your parroting of things you don’t even understand.

By dudley do right

June 24, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

By h

June 24, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

H…Dude, you sound like my type of guy…but, c’mon never smoked weed?

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

Dear Fairy @ 11:01, thanks for confirming my argument. Anyone with a brain understands that additional supply will reduce prices. Our leftist friends seemingly do not think beyond a single paycheck when trying to control the world. If drilling will not reduce the price next week, they are against it. And they wonder why nobody trusts their policies.

Dear Macca @ 11:06, leftist democrats have more than 40 votes in the senate, which is all that is necessary to block repeal of a bad leftist law. As always, the problem is political and attributable to leftists.

Dear Tim @ 11:12, the problem is the blinders over your eyes. What are our Middle East friends doing with their oil profits? Grant me for the sake of argument that they invest in Western companies and assets. If their oil pricing depresses the value of their investments, they profit nothing. The beauty of free trade and investment is that it acts as a governor on stupid acts. (If on the other hand you wish to argue that the Middle Easterners plan to simply consume their dollars as a form of breakfast cereal, you may be right in your argument.)

Dear #### @ 11:13, your plain language lamented free discussion of public issues - which I think you would have to grant is a natural and daily result of Jim Wooten’s writing skills. His daily essay angers the unhinged left and creates a platform for the conservatives to display the inherent superiority of our positions.

By liberalidiots

June 24, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

h, You have A MBA? Really, because your English is as bad as your lie.

By the way, my daddy never had any connections to a University. I paid my own way. AK-47? Why would I use a middle eastern weapon if I hate middle easterners? According to you I mean. I’d prefer an American made weapon but thanks for trying. It shows that you can use a thought process. King James version? Wow. I love how your “open mindedness” has pigeon holed me in to this stereotype. What happened to “tolerance?” I thought liberals were supposed to be tolerant of others?

By the way, an MBA in basket weaving doesn’t count.

By h

June 24, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

To BfKaJ,

I agree, some modern “leftists” are rejecting “liberal” ideals. I concede your point on that one.

However, the term Fascist is very specific and applies to those regimes who are very right leaning as they focus on the ethnic identity and religious leanings of the people. So in that case, left and Fascist do not mix.

By getalife

June 24, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

Of course the Gas and Oil Party want to drill for their godfather.

They are the corporate mafia.

By DaveD

June 24, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

BFKaJ, Supply and demand? it’s YOU who does not understand my silly talibangelical friend. There is SO VERY LITTLE SUPPLY when you think of production on the golbal market…and the amount of DEMAND that goes up almost daily due to China and India’s GROWING economy…that the supply from ANWAR…well it won’t make a friggin’ dent.

tell me about the DEMAND part…

you dummy!

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Dear h @ 11:31, I respectfully persist in my disagreement. Fascism - Mussolini “making the trains run on time” - has nothing to do with free men exercising their economic votes in the market place. It is far closer, stylistically and in effect, to the 5-year plans of the Politboro. Capitalism and dictatorship are incompatible, Singapore notwithstanding.

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Dear h @ 11:31, have you seen this: http://www.theadvocates.org/quizp/index.html

By CommunistAJC

June 24, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

DaveD, Can you put a complete sentence together? Dummy. Idiot. Friggin’ idiot dummy. What’s a golbal market? Is that like the Harlem Golbal Trotters? I thinks your brain is low on cells. Too much weed perhaps?

By h

June 24, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

to liberalidiots:

Thank you. You just reminded me of another conservative trait.

Get very defensive and angry when anyone challenges what they say.

You threw out a challenge and I answered, and then you get very defensive. You obviously have no issue deriding liberals but have a large problem when anyone answers this deriding conservatives. Hypocrisy, anyone?

Now, perhaps my spelling is not so good, I apologize for that, but I do come from the Spell-check generation. But I disagree with your assessment of my use of the English language. And I do have an MBA, in finance by the way, not basket-weaving. I don’t know how to weave a basket.

As for the AK-47, well, I don’t own a gun, never shot one, so I apologize for not knowing that they were foreign made. How’s Winchester?

Also, please re-read my post. I did state “just for fun”. It was meant to be taken as “tongue-in-cheek”, AKA Jonathan Swift, but perhaps that was over your head.

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

Dear DavidD @ 11:38, your post belies your claim of expertise.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 24, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

Hey, BFKaJ, you sound familiar, do you sing for the Moron Wankernacle Choir?

By fairy god mother

June 24, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

I didn’t confirm anything BFKaJ. If you think a savings of .75 per barrel will reduce the supply and demand which will somehow miraculously lower the price of energy I’ve got an ocean front property in Snellville I’d like to sell you.

You can go on and on with your right wing talking points, but you might want to talk to Dick Cheney…you know the SECRET meeting he had with all of the OIL executives…They might give you a clue as to why gas prices are so HIGH!

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Dear A/D @ 11:51, regrettably I cannot croak on pitch. But I can pitch a knuckleball.

By liberalidiots

June 24, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

h, Kudos. You can actually name an American made product. Spell-check generation? Sounds lazy to me. Did your T-1000 calculator get you through finance classes as well? Defensive? Only when I have to point out the idiocy of liberals. If you want to talk guns, there’s another blog. Hypocrisy? Not really because I’ve stated that Conservatives fight battles instead of run from them. Then again, the only battle you’ve probably ever fought was if Lattes are better than regular Espresso.

By ghost rider

June 24, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

By liberalidiots

June 24, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

You say this…”AK-47? Why would I use a middle eastern weapon.”

Obviously you have never been in the armed service.

An Ak-47 is a RUSSIAN weapon!

By Truthifier

June 24, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Where is jbmlaw?

By h

June 24, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

to dudley do right @ 11:46:

Thanks! But no, never weed. I am more of a beer kind of Chick.

to BFKaJ @ 11:45

Thanks for that link, I just learned something new about myself that I wouldn’t have thought. I knew there was a reason I couldn’t agree with either McCain or Obama!

By Copyleft

June 24, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

h, you have to understand that BFK uses his own personal definitions of “liberal” and “conservative” to declare that anyone who disagrees with anything he says is therefore a “leftist”—including every elected GOP official.

BFK lives in Ayn Rand Utopia, where the only problem is government, and the only solution is anarchy. Anyone who questions this wisdom is, by definition, a “leftist.” See how it works?

By Jim is an ostrich

June 24, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

BFKaJack*, My point was not whether Emily Ray and Obama agree. My point was that Emily Ray has no more place in the discussion than you, me or my sister in Peoria. If Jim wants to set up a real discussion, use the people who will be making the policy. I would prefer John McCain’s opinion over Emily Ray, just like I would prefer Obama’s opinion over your barber, or your manservant, or your interior decorator, or Sean Hannity, or Tom Selleck. I’m not sure I would prefer “Special Interest” Saxby’s opinion over anyone else’s, but that’s a different story.

By TW

June 24, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Consumer confidence fell in June to its lowest in 16 years as high inflation continued to sap confidence and pushed expectations for the future to a record low, the Conference Board said on Tuesday.

Just like Daddy!

…and McSame toted their water…no thanks.

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

Dear Copyleft @ 12:01, if you can let go of your characterisic leftist bitterness, you may enjoy the little quiz that our friend h tried, link @ 11:45.

Dear Truthifier @ noon, I am still here and still respond to the old bloghandle. I realized that my friends in opposition were expending too much effort in addressing “who” I am rather than looking at my arguments, so I am now the Blogger Formerly Known as Jbmlaw. Shar suggested the handle.

By AJC/DNC Management

June 24, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

AK47? No it’s not, it’s a vietnamese weapon. It’s the AK 47. THe russian version is called the AK-46. and the middleeast version is called the AK 45. It’s the only way spare parts distributors can tell them apart, and also, each version requires a different cleaning kit.

You can tell the difference in the sound the gun makes when it bellows bullets on the battlefield. The AK 47 goes, ratattouie, the AK 46 goes youdirtyratatrat, and the Ak 45 goes Kakaboomdeeyay with a slight accent grave and a little umlaut over the yay part, daddyo.

moron.

By liberalidiots

June 24, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

ghost rider, The AK-47 is primarily USED by middle easterners. NEVER said it was created by them. You’re assumption that I’ve never served is a bit ridiculous.

By h

June 24, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

to copyleft @ 12:01,

I get it now - that makes much more sense. So you’re saying I am trying to reason with a Whack-job? :)

By George Washington

June 24, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

The problem with Repukes can be summed up this way: they are owned and operated by a foreign country that is sucking the wealth out of america for its own benefit, and the Repukes are too stupid to notice……

By jm

June 24, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

I wonder if Mr. Wooten is going to talk about the domestic wells that were capped in the 80’s and 90’s because it was cheaper to buy the oil overseas.

As for ANWR, if the world price for oil is $135 (or whatever it is now), that is what the oil companies will charge for any oil produced there (no domestic discount).

Cheap oil is not (and never has been) an american birthright.

By CommunistAJC

June 24, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

h, Whack-job? I’m a very sane educated person.

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

Dear Ostrich @ 12:07, we agree but that undermines your position. Leftists attach great importance to “who says it” whereas conservatives attach great importance to “what is said.” By attributing leftists ideas to the looniest goofball who speaks it, all leftists are distressed. We conservatives believe a great idea is not particularly responsible for who embraces it. So you can take all of my ideas, attribute them to David Duke or Muhammed Ali or anyone you wish, and conservatives will still digest and respond to the idea. Leftists will blanch at the source and put their brains on hold. If you doubt my argument, quote Ann Coulter sometime. If you do it without attribution, leftists will respond (always angrily) ineffectively, but they will respond. If you attribute the argument, they say, “well, that’s Ann Coulter.” Our side deals in the politics of ideas, and your side deals in the politics of identity.

By h

June 24, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

Hey liberalidiots:

you’re = you are your = your

Now who’s English is bad?

By CommunistAJC

June 24, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

George Washington, And what is the fully controlled DEMOCRAP party doing? NOTHING! Get it! Politicians can not solve problems. But then again, liberals are too stupid to know notice……

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

Dear jm @ 12:16, I think he has. The “windfall profits tax” made it far more intelligent to cap the marginally productive wells than to continue to produce. Government intereference in the market always has an effect, and not always one that would be rational in a free market.

By h

June 24, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Sorry,

Have to correct myself. Should’ve been “whose”

yes, I can dish it out and take it.

By DaveD

June 24, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Hey…all I have to say…is YOU IDIOTS voted for “Bubble Boy Bush”….TWICE! Like what you’re paying for gas? The stock market? Price of food… You got what you wanted… Oils companies make record profits, innocent people die (you know…iraqi muslims as “collateral damage”..) food prices are out of control, the stock market has not really moved anywhere in years… why? because republicans ALWAYS take it down. Me? I don’t know what I’m talking about?…the stock market has ALWAYS performed better under a dem. president. Don’t believe me? READ DUMMIES: http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/futureinvest/3022

Look at the chart. I know, you can’t understand charts unless they are on faux news right?

Voted for Bubble Boy Bush twice you “Talibangelical” fools?

Well…enjoy your gas prices…because guess what? Gays are STILL GAY, and ABORTION IS STILL LEGAL! YAY! ;-)

By h

June 24, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

How many handles do you have BFKaJ? I am starting to worry that all these posts are yours and you are arguing only with yourself.

By jm

June 24, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

BFKaj@12:27 - the windfall profits tax was repealed in 1988

By liberalidiots

June 24, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

h, yeah, that was my fault. Thanks for correcting that embarrassing mistake. ghost rider kind of p** me off with his military service remark.

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Dear h @ 12:28, you’re ok. Grammar and typos don’t count in a policy discussion.

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

Dear jm @ 12:36, agreed, but nothing thereafter made it make sense to incur the costs of restarting the marginal wells. Once the golden goose is killed it’s dead. Here Congressional leftist policy is the culpable killer, as is so often the case on energy issues.

By ghost rider

June 24, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

By liberalidiots

June 24, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

“AK-47? Why would I use a middle eastern weapon if I hate middle easterners?”

Is this not what you wrote…Hey! If that doesn’t read like you are saying an AK-47 is a middle eastern weapon than perhaps I need an interperter for your language.

The Ak-47 is used not only in the middle east, but basically throughout the world as their weapon of choice.

But, again it is manufactured in Russia.

By Scholar

June 24, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

“conservation, alternative energy development and increased supply of oil…”

All Republicans hear is the last part of that sentence. They’ll do anything to keep the status quo so we end up in the same place 10 years from now when all 75 billion or so barrels of oil from new drillings have been consumed.

By DaveD

June 24, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

errr…sorry talibangelcals…I meant “oil companies”…yet your logic is so faulty…who cares how I type and that i care not to proof read…focus on that OK? Know what? The reason we pay $4 for gas right now…well, it’s because of YOU and those you voted for! THANKS!

The gays and abortion Doctors thank you too! Somewhere right now…there are two guys kissing while reading my post… hey… come to think of it..there’s a baby getting “unborn” right now too! Praise ALLAH…as all those that believe in a so-called “god” are weak…simple, and confused. tell me how you believe in a god (your little version), yet the easter bunny is fake…fooooooools! ;-)

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Dear h @ 12:35, until a couple of weeks ago I had only jbmlaw. Immediately thereafter I started calling myself “Neocon Chimpy Warmonger” or something like that, but by taking away all of the leftist epithets I found nobody wanted to engage any discussion. So I selected the clever handle proposed by friend Shar.

So far all of the BFKaJ posts today are mine, but our friend HIDT (aka Maniac, among others) has a standing invitation to post under any of my handles - he is pretty sharp, and unlike me, he has a witty humor in his writing. So he only enhances my reputation.

By English Language Political Foreskin

June 24, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

CNN just reported that Al Jezeera canceled Osama Bin Laden’s Radio Show after his remarks about Kurdish Women being “Keffiya Headed Ewe’s”. A spokesman for Homeland Security said that this sets the jihad back 5 years.

Obama has apologized through a Syrian Embassy Spokeman, but no other comment was available.

By h

June 24, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

English Language Political Foreskin

nice! That was hilarious!

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Dear h @ 12:35, I realize I did not address your real question. No posts here are mine other than the BFKaJ posts. I am arrogant enough to believe I know all of the leftist arguments well enough to make them better than you see on this blog, so I suppose I should be insulted that you would attribute the half-baked leftists arguments to one with my intellectual skills. I could do much better.

By dirty harry

June 24, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

By AJC/DNC Management

June 24, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management..You are Wrong about the AK-47.

The Viet cong/North Vietnamese used a Chinese version /Chinese Type-56.

This web site will introduce you to anything you want to know concerning this weapon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47

By h

June 24, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

BFKaJ:

I meant no disrespect. I was only curious because someone @ CommunistAJC responded to my whack-job comment that I had (jokingly) called you.

By Tom Ga Hunter

June 24, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

ECON 101 from a GOOD college….1. A company’s management job is to optimize PROFIT… 2.This is done by selling at the price & quanity they make the greatest profit…3.The “Market” sets the price, based on the per unit price they are willing to pay & quanity they are willing to buy…4.Cost determins if the seller continues to sell at the market price…5 See #1…6…due to pols like “What’s in it for me” Chambliss we are not in a economic market, his burning food act is killing us on gas & food prices.

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Dear h @ 1:03, no real offense taken - my argument was hypothetical. I’d guess that Communist AJC is our friend HIDT. You have also discovered the wit of another blogger with numerous IDs, PoFo @ 12:47. He is a semi-professional comedian, and is the main reason I do not try humor on the blog. You are new to the blog, welcome, and you will get to know some bright personalities here. Midsouth Philosopher is a really bright fellow, centrist, as is occasional poster jm. Shar and Southern Democrat are more left than center, but easily the brightest minds in opposition; you will find them on your level. We used to have an incredibly bright mind here, Glenn, but he has moved on to greener pastures. Dusty and @@ are my comrades on the right, and there is a different group on weekends.

By Yeah, I'm a tree hugging liberal. SO WHAT?

June 24, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

We need to conserve but we also need to drill, go nuclear, construct wind farms off the coast, subsidize the use of solar panels, and anything else that will help supply more energy domestically and get off of the OPEC heroin-drip.

By HIDT

June 24, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

I cannot take credit for Communist AJC, but I like his/her style.

By DEATH TO LIBERALISM AND LEFTIST SURRENDER MONKEYS

June 24, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

So the half-black elephant eared black racist supercilious half wit Hussein Obama pukes up its latest deranged race baiting hate, attempting to yet again gutlessly innoculate itself from all the INEVITABLE, LEGITIMATE, UNANSWERABLE criticism about its pandering treasonous far left bollocks despicably masquerading as an utterly unwanted second term for the senile narcissistic human scum jimmy turdbrain KKKarter.

Hussein Obama like ALL gutless demoNcrat racists pukes up its sick racebaiting hate off camera.

How amusing to have confirmed by the part of hate media it was Hussein Obama’s sullen whitey hatingbitchofaspouse who was the one that doggedly kept the vile racist Hussein brood slithering back to their black racist KKKUSA church in the corrupt s** of Shicargo (snigger) in yanKKKee IL.

Any of the far left scum on here ready yet to condemn BOTH the shamelessly venal grease my surrender monKKKey palm liberal senators whose puffy grasping hypocritical snouts were recently caught oinking deep in the Countrywide trough?? This is just business as usual Dingy Harry Reid Vegas style for liberal scum!!!

Nice to see the worthless shrill leftist cut and run molluscs have finally, at long last had the sullenly grudging grace to STFU about Iraq, now that the surge is working so well.

Time to swiftly abort ALL liberals - what a fabulous national sport that will be. Truly America’s national pastime in waiting … huge snigger!!

By fairy god mother

June 24, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

I think that BFKaJ is really Wooten..No one else could write this nonsense without snorting his coffee out of his nose…

I thought you were a lawyer BFKaJ, not a psychoanalyst…

As always your posts and your priordial dismissive tone for those who disagree with your views are about as silly as Dusty’s rhetoric!

By getalife

June 24, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

McOld’s battery contest is a gimmick.

By liberalidiots

June 24, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

BFKaJ, Nope. I’m a totally different person. Semi-professional comedian? Come on, admit it. Some of my remarks are pretty funny.

ghost rider, Yeah, that’s what I said alright. And again, I said that it is primarily used by middle eastern countries. But feel free to continue to analyze the AK-47. It’s quite amusing.

HIDT, Thanks. I love p** liberals off and calling them out for what they really are.

By jm

June 24, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

bfkaj@12:40 - yet I notice that those same energy companies were perfectly happy to accept the subsidies and tax breaks “the leftists” provided them over the years.

By The good side

June 24, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

YOU FOOL@

You talk abou a surge what has been the major benefit? The deaths and injuries of several thousand AMERICANS! If we think the terrorist would come to Irag don’t you think they would come to Afghanistan too!

I cannot believe the ignorant,stupidity that exists on these blogs! The audicity to justify a war/humanitary effort/get the oil/ weapon of mass destruction mission is about the dummiest story to ever come about in the 21st century.

The REPUBLICANS had control of the SENATE,HOUSE and the White why did they just pass a law to drill for the oil in America if that is what they wanted to do!

Because Terrorism will alway exists. Once you kill some parent,brother,sister or spouse their children will always want revenge!

Conservatives need to grow-up!

By ghost rider

June 24, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

By liberalidiots

June 24, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

I started out by just correcting your erroneous comment which was

“Why would I use a middle eastern weapon if I hate middle easterners?”

Now you lie again …now you state ” ghost rider, Yeah, that’s what I said alright. And again, I said that it is primarily used by middle eastern countries.

Nowhere in your other comments did you state PRIMARILY…Did you?

I’m off this topic…find someone else to accept your lies…you don’t know what you write!

By h

June 24, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

BFKaJ:

Thanks for your welcome. This is easily the most interesting blog on the AJC and is always entertaining to read and participate in. I appreciate the heads up on who’s who as well.

and liberalidiots, you are good at p*ing off this liberal! :)

By liberalidiots

June 24, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

ghost rider, Take a Valium. I never said that middle easterners CREATED or INVENTED the AK-47. Lies? Dude, go menstruate all over someone elses post. Hack.

h, Great! Glad to know that I’m p** you off.

By Maniac is accurate

June 24, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

I’m jealous BFKaJ. I follow Phil Neikro’s instructions to a tee and, still, the knuckler won’t dance.

By Moonbat Big Oil Democrat

June 24, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Get a load of this: some moonbat libs protesting against Exxon dress up as polar bears. One wonders, did these pieces of hypocritical crap representative of the modern kook left drive to where they are, or did they bike or walk their as-ses there, and everywhere else in their wretched miserable liberal Democrat lives? We all know the answer to that one.

”..world markets, not ExxonMobil, determine oil prices and, in turn, the cost consumers pay for gas. He also said that it is consumers who are willing to pay $4 a gallon at the pump.”

  • Oh Pleeeease, do you think these moonbat liberal kooks care about facts?

By Knuckleheads

June 24, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

You know I umpire for little leaguers from 7 to 13 years old. Some of those kids can throw a curve that you wouldn’t believe. It comes in fat and slow but at the last second it dives and shifts direction to the right away from the batter. When I first saw it I called it a strike, and did I get the business from the coach! It mystifies. These kids are amazing. That curve ball defies physics.

I was umpiring last march when this one clown coach, in the first inning, didn’t like my ‘he’s out’ call on the third base runner. He lifted his face to the heavens and in a loud voice he exclaimed, “IN ALL MY YEARS AS COACH AND OF ALL THE UMPIRES I’VE EVER SEEN, THAT WAS THE WORST CALL EVER!”

I walked up to him and said quietly, “Hey, at least wait till the second inning if you’re going to call me the worst umpire you ever saw.”

The coaches are the children in little league.

BTW: his runner was out by a country mile.

By ghost rider

June 24, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

By liberalidiots

June 24, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry little one if I have your itty bitty pink panties stuck up your you know what!

Lessons learned if you print it you own it…Know what I mean….

So you are a liar, and also an idiot!

By liberalidiots

June 24, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

ghost rider, WHAT DID I LIE ABOUT? All I said was I don’t use middle eastern AK-47s. Didn’t say they were made there. Get a life. And no, you’re the idiot. Pink. You stink. My dad can beat up your dad. Want me to keep going?

By Terry

June 24, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

Jim,

Don’t be trying to make fun of the opinions of people in the entertainment industry. Isn’t that the same industry you are in?

Especially when you use the laughable description of Johnny Isakson, “thoughtful, wise and deliberate”, the Mr. ‘Do Nothing Unless It Is Election Time’, Senator from Georgia.

For someone who writes entertaining fiction, you should not be smacking around people in your own industry.

By Sue me

June 24, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

Moonbat Big Oil Democrat

They unicycled. Didn’t you ever see a circus?

By Dusty

June 24, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

Oh oh fairy god mother has called me “silly”!!(1:42)

I mean FAIRY GOD MOTHER !!! Not Mother Goose? Not Cinderella? But the airy scary FAIRY GOD MOTHER!!

Be gone, you bumpkin in a pumpkin!! I know you really are MISS PIGGY of the Porcine Peoples Population aka Dim & Dotty Democrats.

By h

June 24, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

What have you been smoking today, and where can I get some?

By liberalidiots

June 24, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

h, WHOA! You posted that you’ve never smoked weed. Sounds like a hypocrite to me. Isn’t that what you called me a little while ago?

By Dusty

June 24, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

Dear “h”,2:57

Unlike the lovely libs here who revel in lawless libation and leaves of joy, I do not “drink or smoke”. You must ask PoFo about such things.

But boredom can drive one to pointless poetry and rediculous rhetoric. Today’s blog is bogged down baloney of repetition and regurgitation. Let us be bereft of such boredom. We need something beneficial. What do you suggest?

By Inspector Clouseau

June 24, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

Ah, not so fast. I, Inspector Clouseau will track down, and find Dusty’s hidden stash…

Bad girl Dusty…

Oops, I just had a minor accident .. but, I’m on the case!

By Odd, that

June 24, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

Isn’t it odd that today’s entire blog, including “Wooten“‘s opening spiel was fabricated entirely by political foreskin. This post excepted, of course.

By Dusty

June 24, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Inspector Clouseau @3:20

You dumbkin!! It was hidden behind the Modigliani in the wall safe!!Foiled again, precocious one!! And I am sending you the bill for the carpet cleanup! You certainly DO have a “case”!!

By h

June 24, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Liberalidiots:

Yes, I have never smoked weed or anything else for that matter.

It is an expression, you silly child. A turn-of-phrase. Are you sure your handle shouldn’t be “I am an idiot” instead of “liberalidiots?”

By Dusty

June 24, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

I don’t know how it came to this, but I can deny it no longer. Through these long months of first depising him and then learning to laugh with him, I have fallen deeply and completely in love with Political Foreskin. I hate what this means for our spouses, Pookie, but our love prevails. To our friends here have picked out matching navel rings and will be flying to Vegas on Friday. After a thrilling honeymoon, we will return, still blogging from opposite positions, but united in our undying love for each other.

By h

June 24, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

Dusty & PoFo;

Where are you registered? Or perhaps you would like 100 “I Heart Obama” shirts as a gift?

By Gordon L. Stafford

June 24, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

If there is anything other than Oil in desperate short supply, it is Nuclear Fuel. The only sagacious fuel is H2.

By Dusty

June 24, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

PoFo@@3:48

I really would “love” it if you would put my ID in quotation marks or something when you steal it. Everyone would then know that POFO STOLE DUSTY’S ID AGAIN. That way I wouldn’t have to tell ‘em.

Sorry, PoFo!! I know you were dropped on your head as a baby but… CUT IT OUT YOU BOZO!!!

By Yo mama

June 24, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Clean your plate!

By rayray

June 24, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

Jim,

**There is no estimate anywhere that states the US has 86 billion barrels of oil in reserves. At best, and if we tap into every possible space, we have 30 billion. At our current rate of consumption of 21 million barrels a day, that supply gives us around 1500 days of oil. That’s just over 4 years. Now in order for us to use that oil and really save money, it would have to be taken of off the world market. How would that be done? So if we drill more, where does that oil go and who distributes it? And after the 4 years worth is used up, who do we buy from then? In lieu of using the tired Republican, Democrat, conservative or liberal name tags, how about just plain “idiot” for anyone who thinks drilling off of our coasts or in ANWR will do a damn thing to help reduce the price of oil.

Oh and when the prices go down, all of the jackasses who drive short buses(SUV’s) will go back to buying them because, heck gas is cheap again!!!!**

By Knuckleheads

June 24, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

CNN just reported that Al Jezeera canceled Osama Bin Laden’s Radio Show after his remarks about Kurdish Women being “Keffiya Headed Ewe’s”. A spokesman for Homeland Security said that this sets the jihad back 5 years.

Obama has apologized through a Syrian Embassy Spokeman, but no other comment was available.

By George Washington

June 24, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

The only oil woodenhead has ever explored for was in that big fat pimple on his ugly but….but I digress….try this….“McCain graduated from the US Naval Academy and was a fighter pilot in Vietnam.”

McCain graduated 594th in a class of 599. If his daddy had not been an Admiral, he would never have been made a fighter pilot.

McCain is suspected of killing 168 of his shipmates by wet starting his plane aboard the USS Forrestal, in a hot dog stunt to scare the pilot behind him.

Four days after being captured by the Vietcong, McCain agreed to tell Military secrets if he could visit a hospital.

McCain signed confessions stating: “I am a black criminal and I have performed the deeds of an air pirate.”

In 1997 McCain said on 60 Minutes that he was a war criminal for bombing civilians.

(His POW confessions and hospital requests are all admitted by him.)

Is this the type of expert we want running the country?

By George Washington

June 24, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

Hey, Bookman’s got 157 posts on his better than woodenhead’s blog, and old stupid woody’s only got 141 semi literate yet mindless posts….Bookman wins again….

By George Washington

June 24, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

I know morons, you want to know what a wet start is, so Ah’m a gonna tell ya, sort of: read along with me now “Jens15-April-2008, 09:37 AM I have a question (actually two) about jet engines and aircraft carriers, actually, and I know there are lots of people here who know lots about those. I can’t say why this came up, unfortunately, because it would violate board rules. :-)

The first question is about something called “wet starting” an engine. I’ve seen it but have no question what it means. Can anybody explain what it is?

The other question is, do pilots “wet start” engines on aircraft carriers? Is it something dangerous to do?

Neverfly15-April-2008, 09:47 AM I’m not sure about jet engines, but a “wet start” is when you allow fuel to pool a moment before igniting it. Makes a nice Bang.

In this case, most likely the pilot would pool kerosene within the engine and then ignite, causing a helluva exhaust plume. I am guessing here.

I imagine the prank could be dangerous. I don’t know if it’s practiced these days, but I have heard of it happening on carriers.

Most likely in these times, doing it would get the pilot drummed up.

jt-3d15-April-2008, 09:58 AM Hmm, this wouldnt have anything to do with GLP would it? :)

What those crazy folks do on carriers, I don’t know. But letting fuel pool in an engine and then lighting it is a bad thing in the civilian world. It will at least shoot a flame and possibly explode. Maybe carrier pilots do it or used do it, but I’d like to think they are a bit more cautious than that.

That said, it’s been done accidently by say motoring the engine, opening the fuel valve and then remembering that you forgot to turn on the ignitors or one system is failed. What you’re supposed to do is close the fuel and motor the engine and start over. What’s been done is reaching up and flipping the ignitor switch on or to the other system and boom.

I once did a manual start on a 727 where they were slow getting the fire lit. It shot a pretty impressive flame out the back with me and another guy standing next to it on a lift truck. It was dark too so it was even more impressive. Good times.”

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

Dear Knuckleheads @ 2:33, totally agree. I coached little league five years, and recall only one time when I disputed an umpire’s call, and did it in a non-shouting voice loud enough for my team to hear. “Hey Blue, I respectfully ask you to reconsider your call. The young lady covering third (my third basewoman) undoubtedly missed the tag, your basis for calling the runner safe, but she was standing on the base the entire time, and it was a force play.” After the umpire - a friend - looked at the runners standing on second and third, he said, “coach, you are right, the runner is out.”

Dear Manic @ 2:19, I did not claim my knuckleball was terribly effective. But my older son has a killer knuckleball. When he played little league, as a 10 year old he was drafted into the 11-12 league, as a pitcher and centerfielder. Our home procedure was to never interfere with his coach, but I did practice with him daily. I taught him my knuckleball one afternoon, and at the next day’s practice he was throwing a magnificent knuckleball as his change up, and before practice was over he had taught five of his older teammates how to throw it. And he never was allowed to throw his knuckleball in high school.

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Dear Knuckleheads, I screwed up my story. I meant to say “runners at second and first.” As I told it, the story made not sense, apologies.

By DaveD

June 24, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

We need more abortions in GA! too many idiots still around. As more “normal” people from up north move in…it will finally one day become a state people can be proud of. YAY for gays still being gay!

YAY for abortions still being done for the idiot children of GOP (don’t ask don’t tell mom’s and dad’s)…

yeah…GOP Talibangelical idiots…your kids have sex… just like you did.

If you didn’t, well sorry you’re not human.

God is great! ALL praise ALLAH! (all gods are the same…just like Dr. Suess told us)! ME? I like my “Grinch” god…he’s effin’ cool!

By Knuckleheads

June 24, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

If the price of oil surged because of speculation, then this is a gas bubble, and will pass, gone with the wind…

Dusty it weren’t moi who done stole your ID. Honest Injun. It was Duhng. I stole HIS ID earlier because I found out he once sang in the moron wankernacle choir and I hate those guys.

I hate the moron wankernacle choir. There I said it. And I’m glad!

But Dusty, you need to admit that you cant tell who’s who. Nobody can.

By BFKaJ

June 24, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

Dear liberalidiots @ 1:49, I apologize for insulting you, not intentional. I did not intend “semi-professional” to sound like a disparagement of the quality of your humor - I have previously posted my admiration. I intended my phrase merely to reflect my perception that your pursuit does not consume your life, although I acknowledge that I could be wrong there too.

By Hillbilly Deluxe

June 24, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Her name is Amy Ray not Emily. Emily is the other Indigo Girl.

By Maniac is accurate

June 24, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

Maybe it’s the oddly shaped index fingers I have. Seems everyone can throw the knuckler but me. Hey, is that a disability? Then maybe I could hang on Wooten’s blog full time.

By George Washington

June 24, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

Mah middle finger’s got a similar disability, it keeps popping straight up when ever ah reads woodeheads blather….

By Inspector Clouseau

June 24, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this

Ah, it is I Inspector Clouseau still in search of Dusty’s hidden stash, but, getting warmer with each step.

I notice that her and Some other blogger are running off to Vegas for a night or two of sin!

This little tryst could hamper my investigation as they may take the goodies with them.

Oops, just stepped into something that went squish, and smells like….

By Politics Aside

June 24, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

Huh?

By Joe

June 25, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

Who the hell is Amy Ray?

By music lover

June 25, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Amy Ray is an Indigo Girl. They had some hit songs in the 90s which, naturally, makes them experts on everything, including energy policy.

They’re sensitive, so be nice.

By Charles W.

June 25, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

The oil companies have already leased 44 million acres of land that they haven’t explored for oil. What makes you think the small swath of land in ANWR is anything but another smokescreen. Why not have them explore that first, and then look for the offshore and ANWR options. Propaganda is a wonderful thing isn’t it.

By Charles W.

June 25, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

The oil companies have already leased 44 million acres of land that they haven’t explored for oil. What makes you think the small swath of land in ANWR is anything but another smokescreen. Why not have them explore that first, and then look for the offshore and ANWR options. Propaganda is a wonderful thing isn’t it.

By Charles W.

June 25, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

The oil companies have already leased 44 million acres of land that they haven’t explored for oil. What makes you think the small swath of land in ANWR is anything but another smokescreen. Why not have them explore that first, and then look for the offshore and ANWR options. Propaganda is a wonderful thing isn’t it.

By BFKaJ

June 25, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Dear Charles @ 1:18, I understand the leftist position, that freedom is not to be trusted. Thus you allow only as much oil exploration as you decide is appropriate, and if those areas you would allow are highly unpromising, then oil companies can waste their investments or not. Thank goodness for the superior wisdom of leftist politicians.

By Will

June 26, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

Dear Mr. Wooten:

The republican radio entertainers denounced the Supreme Court last week because of the ruling regarding executions and demanded than they be replaced.

Right now they are praising the Supreme Court because of their ruling on guns.

Do you think the republican radio entertainers forgot that last week’s Supreme Court is this week’s Supreme Court?

Also, do you know why the republican radio entertainers think that gay people getting married is more of threat to the sanctity of marriage than men marrying a whole bunch of women at the same time. I got to thinking about that after hearing about all those men out west that have a lot of wives, you know, the ones whose children have been taken away.

I have listened and listened but have not heard any of those republican radio entertainers say that men marrying a whole bunch of women calls for an amendment to our cherish Constitution to stop this from happening.

By Charles W.

June 26, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

BFKaJ…I don’t understand your point. The oil companies leased the land in order to explore for oil. If they didn’t think there was oil there why on earth would they lease the land. Companies don’t just waste money like that. Undoubtedly they had some information that oil was there in order to get a return on their investment. I don’t have a leftist position. I try to find out the truth and the truth is that the rightist position that we must drill, drill, drill will not have any impact on the tank of gas at $4.25 I have to buy tomorrow. In fact, it won’t have any impact for at least 5 years. That is the truth. Please come up with proof that it’s not, otherwise it’s Republican/Conservative spin as usual

By Charles W.

June 26, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

BFKaJ…I don’t understand your point. The oil companies leased the land in order to explore for oil. If they didn’t think there was oil there why on earth would they lease the land. Companies don’t just waste money like that. Undoubtedly they had some information that oil was there in order to get a return on their investment. I don’t have a leftist position. I try to find out the truth and the truth is that the rightist position that we must drill, drill, drill will not have any impact on the tank of gas at $4.25 I have to buy tomorrow. In fact, it won’t have any impact for at least 5 years. That is the truth. Please come up with proof that it’s not, otherwise it’s Republican/Conservative spin as usual

By Charles W.

June 26, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

BFKaJ…I don’t understand your point. The oil companies leased the land in order to explore for oil. If they didn’t think there was oil there why on earth would they lease the land. Companies don’t just waste money like that. Undoubtedly they had some information that oil was there in order to get a return on their investment. I don’t have a leftist position. I try to find out the truth and the truth is that the rightist position that we must drill, drill, drill will not have any impact on the tank of gas at $4.25 I have to buy tomorrow. In fact, it won’t have any impact for at least 5 years. That is the truth. Please come up with proof that it’s not, otherwise it’s Republican/Conservative spin as usual

By oil user (just like you)

June 26, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

And if we don’t ever drill for oil, it will never have any impact on the price… why is that so hard to understand? It seems that if we can’t fix a problem right this minute, there’s no point in trying.

Utterly baffling.

By Redd

June 26, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Charles, yes, ‘the oil companies leased the oil to explore for oil.’ That means either: a) they didn’t actually find any (it does happen), b) they found some and don’t want it (not likely), b) found a little but it’s too hard/expensive to extract (happens a lot). Do you think exploration guarantees results? If you ‘explored’ in your backyard, are you convinced you’d find oil?

And what makes you think it won’t impact the price you pay 5 years from now? Can’t you think that far ahead?

By Redd

June 26, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

Charles, yes, ‘the oil companies leased the land to explore for oil.’ That means either: a) they didn’t actually find any (it does happen), b) they found some and don’t want it (not likely), b) found a little but it’s too hard/expensive to extract (happens a lot). Do you think exploration guarantees results? If you ‘explored’ in your backyard, are you convinced you’d find oil?

And what makes you think it won’t effect the price you pay 5 years from now? Can’t you think that far ahead?

By Charles W.

June 26, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

Not only can I think ahead Redd I can think backwards too. Why wasn’t this taken care of when the Republicans had control of the White House and the Senate. 5 years is a very conservative timeframe to get the oil. Plus, there are other factors that must be considered with regard to how we will sell the oil. Do we nationalize oil like Venezuela? We would have to otherwise we let the free market reign and we will be in no better shape than we are now. Just cut out the Conservative spin and come up with a real answer. I haven’t heard one company say they’ve explored the leased land for oil and wasn’t able to extract any. Why is that? Because it’s not true that’s why.

By Charles W.

June 26, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

Not only can I think ahead Redd I can think backwards too. Why wasn’t this taken care of when the Republicans had control of the White House and the Senate. 5 years is a very conservative timeframe to get the oil. Plus, there are other factors that must be considered with regard to how we will sell the oil. Do we nationalize oil like Venezuela? We would have to otherwise we let the free market reign and we will be in no better shape than we are now. Just cut out the Conservative spin and come up with a real answer. I haven’t heard one company say they’ve explored the leased land for oil and wasn’t able to extract any. Why is that? Because it’s not true that’s why.

By Charles W.

June 26, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

Not only can I think ahead I can think backwards too. I see how the Bush Administration has done nothing whatsoever to alleviate this problem and will now drop it in the lap of the next president. It’s on his watch and he did nothing. Gas was $.99 when Clinton left office before you go there and the Repubs had both the White House and the Senate. Please refer me to one article that would tell me the oil companies have already explored the leased land. You won’t be able to. There are too many factors I don’t hear from you other than drilling. We would have to make a decision to nationalize oil because if we let the free market reign then explain how the price will go down. The market will tell you how much the price is going to be and with China and India the demand will always be there. US demand was down the last year so we don’t drive this. Do your homework!!

By Charles W.

June 26, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

Not only can I think ahead I can think backwards too. I see how the Bush Administration has done nothing whatsoever to alleviate this problem and will now drop it in the lap of the next president. It’s on his watch and he did nothing. Gas was $.99 when Clinton left office before you go there and the Repubs had both the White House and the Senate. Please refer me to one article that would tell me the oil companies have already explored the leased land. You won’t be able to. There are too many factors I don’t hear from you other than drilling. We would have to make a decision to nationalize oil because if we let the free market reign then explain how the price will go down. The market will tell you how much the price is going to be and with China and India the demand will always be there. US demand was down the last year so we don’t drive this. Do your homework!!

By Charles W.

June 26, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

Not only can I think ahead I can think backwards too. I see how the Bush Administration has done nothing whatsoever to alleviate this problem and will now drop it in the lap of the next president. It’s on his watch and he did nothing. Gas was $.99 when Clinton left office before you go there and the Repubs had both the White House and the Senate. Please refer me to one article that would tell me the oil companies have already explored the leased land. You won’t be able to. There are too many factors I don’t hear from you other than drilling. We would have to make a decision to nationalize oil because if we let the free market reign then explain how the price will go down. The market will tell you how much the price is going to be and with China and India the demand will always be there. US demand was down the last year so we don’t drive this. Do your homework!!

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