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Would you vote for Bob Barr?

Republicans are worried that in 2008 Bob Barr may be Ralph Nader, the guy Democrats blame for sending Al Gore home in 2000.

He won’t get more than 4 percent of the vote nationally, predicted Georgia’s U.S. Rep. John Linder, “but in some states that may be enough.” Most all of Barr’s vote is expected to come from those who would otherwise vote for John McCain.

That would twice-please Democrats. Barr was the first member of Congress to call for Bill Clinton’s resignation after Monica Lewinsky and was one of the House managers who made the case for impeachment to the U.S. Senate.

Barr drew 6 percent in a recent poll in Georgia, which could be enough to put the state in play.

I’ve already declared that I’ll not vote for Barr — or any other third party candidate. Ross Perot’s 19 percent got us Bill Clinton in 1992. Barr is a spoiler, but disenchanted Republicans are out there, especially among fiscal conservatives, that McCain has not yet captured. And maybe he won’t.

Question of the day to Democrats and Republicans: What would make you vote for Bob Barr?

I have no intentions of doing it, but if I came to believe that there was no difference on national security, on taxes and on judicial appointments, I could essentially sit this one out and vote for Barr, a guy I like and respect.

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By elliott

June 23, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

at first i was interested in voting for him as a statement against where republicans have gone, but his stand on a couple of key issues makes me not vote for him either.

By jct

June 23, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

I am all for third party candidates. I am sick of majority parties. There is no real difference between Dems and Repubs anymore. Just watch how this blog will desend into name calling by 10:00 a.m. this morning.

I am uncertain if I would vote for Barr at this moment; but I am willing to examine any candidate that is not a Dem or Repub.

By Chauncy

June 23, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

Absolutely Not. The man is a threat to the United States. He is also a black man trying to pass himself off as white. Face up to it, Mr. Barr.

By Bob

June 23, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

Someone I neither like nor respect. He is a poacher. He is a schemer.

He tried to run in Linder’s district after his own district was eliminated.

From “Republican” to ACLU????

Now an Anti-Defense Libertarian??

No Thanks.

In terms of affecting the election, Barr is Jaws II / Ross Perot II.

“Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water….”

I’m going to hold my nose and vote for the Lesser Evil of the two Democrats running. John McCain.

By Jeff

June 23, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

Mr. Barr represents TRUE ‘Change we can believe in’.

Obama is nothing more than McCain’s own ideas followed through to their logical conclusion.

Mr. Barr represents ANOTHER ideal. One where Freedom reigns supreme, where the individual is responsible for his actions and his actions alone - good or bad.

One where the Department of DEFENSE is exactly that - a military used in DEFENSE of its homeland. At this very moment, any number of military attacks could take place on American soil, and we could do little - if anything - to stop it. If the Chinese wanted to invade from the West Coast, they would be at the Mississippi (maybe even far further in) before America could put up more than piece-meal resistance with decades-old techology. And yet we insist on deploying our military to fight our GRANDFATHERS’ wars and call this ‘national defense’.

Mr. Barr represents sound fiscal policy. One where we don’t have to choose between paying the mortgage and paying the gas bill, because the companies that control these things have to fight for our business. One where the dollar actually MEANS something. One where our economy is not based on other countries’ - China in particular - opinions of us.

Can Mr. Barr do all of this alone? No. Because unlike some Presidents - the last few, including the much-vaunted Reagan come to mind - he actually BELEIVES in the Constitution and lives by it.

But his election will signal to ALL that America is changing the way it does business, and you can get on board or, as the late Georgian Lewis Grizzard once said ‘Delta is ready when you are’.

By Davo

June 23, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

Barr’s political positions are essentially the same as Ron Pauls, with whom this voter agrees with whole-heartedly. I would vote for Barr if RP throws his support behind him. It is so very unlikely that he will win but perhaps by 2012 the Republicans will clean up their act enough to front a truly conservative candidate…cause this year it’s Obama and the GOP has noone to blame but themselves.

By Just Nasty and Mean

June 23, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

G’mornin Jim, et al,

To make me vote for Bob Barr, he’s going to have to change his position on the war on terror.

For some reason, Bob and the Libertarians feel that terror is not an issue until it touches our shores.
They treat it as a crime problem.

I got some news for Bob and his party: Really bad people—some supported by terrorist states with nuclear capabilities— want to kill Americans on our soil, and we can and have thwarted many attempts by our aggressive pursuit of the perpetrators of 9/11 OVER THERE.

I LIKE ideas of shrinking of government, managing entitlements, and non-intervention into the average American’s lives.

But—come on Bob—your position on terrorism is just not practical in today’s world.

This is JUST TOO IMPORTANT to ignore. I will vote for McCain.

By TW

June 23, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

McSame minus Corporate Brown plus old school conservative values = Bob Barr

McSame thinks us blue collar conservatives have no other place to go.

Bull crap.

Bob Barr ‘08 BECAUSE THERE’S MORE TO THE GOP THAN THE WEALTHY

By BFKaJ

June 23, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I voted for Bob Barr in his celebrated/lamented contest against the excellent representative John Linder. I think I read that Barr has thrown in with those who believe quick withdrawal from Iraq is a good idea; as that is the wrong view on the largest issue of our day, I will not vote for him.

I have long acknowledged my discomfort with John McCain, father of the foolish McCain-Feingold (I guess Russ Feingold is the mother). The Arizonan is inexplicably opposed to opening the ANWR desert to development, even though all Alaskans wish to open it up. I generally do not vote for people opposed to freedom, those who magnify the brilliance and majesty of arbitrary government overlords, and McCain otherwise fits that description. I credit Captain Queeg as being right on Iraq, and he is almost the only one out there, at least of any prominence. Obviously Obama is even more wrong-headed, on practically every issue, so not only will I not vote for him, I will mock all who do. Obama gives voice to the thieves, those who think they are entitled to steal the wealth of others, to expend on their own welfare.

I wish to correct a logical flaw, an urban legend that Jim repeats without either ratification or refutation. “Republicans are worried that in 2008 Bob Barr may be Ralph Nader…” The statement may be literally true, that Republicans are so-worried, but I think such blame is misplaced. If the flawed McCain is not elected, it is not because a handful of the displaced voted for Barr; it is because a huge number of grasping thieves voted for the gravely flawed Obama.

The core personality defect among our leftist brethren is that they are driven by hatred and envy and selfishness and, perhaps unseemly, racism. The bumper sticker on Iraq is generally something along the lines of “they” – meaning the denizens of the war zone - are intellectually incapable of fostering democracy or of working together peacefully. Of course our leftist brethren cite no evidence in support of the prejudice, other than the fact the region has a history of violence, and more recently that Iranian-funded non-Iraqis killed Iraqis even after the US liberated Iraqis from Saddam. Unrelated, I mention “envy” and “sefishness” as those are cornerstones of the prospective Obaman economic policies, higher taxes on those who are most productive. The prospective lapse of the Bush tax cuts – entirely due to leftist envy and selfishness - will destroy the US economy; you all surely saw the interview with Robert Mundell in the Saturday WSJ, linked @ http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121400327981993375.html?mod=djemEditorialPage. Funny interview, good natured economist, and he does not like floating rates – I do – so the essay is an interesting read. Mundell says the end of the Bush tax cuts will throw the entire world economy into recession. I credit Mundell with having a greater rationale for his argument than do the global warming loons. I also mentioned “hatred” – just notice the usual BDS essays on this blog today.

I voted for a third party candidate in 2000. If Georgia is a lock for McCain, I may do so again, if I can find one who is correct on the ideological issues. But that is not Barr; even though I agree with 98% of his positions, he is wrong on the one that counts 75% in my weighing.

By HIDT

June 23, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

I would vote for Barr if it weren’t so important to elect John McCain. Barack Obama does not represent change, other than a retreat to old time, liberal, big government. That’s change, I suppose, but not the kind that is needed to transition us off oil dependence and bring back manufacturing to U.S. soil. That’s the kind of change we need. Neither Obama or McCain offers it, but McCain seems less likely to make life considerably worse.

By AH

June 23, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

I would rather vote for Bob Barr than the two in the race now, but we can’t risk Obama’s foreign policy for the next four years.

So like a lot of people I will go vote in November holding my nose and vote for McCain.

By Kevin

June 23, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

No, I would not vote for Mr. Barr. And I don’t understand how any fiscal conservative would consider draining a vote away from Sen. McCain. In my opinion, Sen. McCain is a fiscal conservative. If his only legacy is to do away with the fraudelant practices of earmarks, than President McCain would have done the country a huge service.

By ron

June 23, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

People voting for Barr fail to understand that the majority of American voters don’t want people from the right or left fringes of either party.Barr can definitely pull votes from McCain.Enough to hurt in a lot of cases.Who will benefit?That should be obvious.Vote for Barr instead of McCain and you help Obama.He’s a polar opposite of Barr.If you want to waste a vote on Barr,go ahead,but don’t whine when you get what’s coming because of it.

By JR

June 23, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

You just have to love someone who says “Mr. Barr represents sound fiscal policy.”. This is the man that said he spent 3.3 million in expenses to receive 4.3 million in donations and refused to be questioned about it. Just what this country need, yeah right!

By Wes

June 23, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

The Republicans are no longer the party of smaller government. If you look at some of the bills that have been passed such as No Child Left Behind, the prescription drug bill, or the recent farm bill which received a great deal of support from our Republican Senators as well as Rep. Gingrey, you can no longer believe that Republicans are interested in shrinking government. If neither major party represents your interests, it stops benefiting you to vote for them.

At some point we need to be able to apply market forces to our government. A choice of two parties limits our government’s level of engagement with its constituents. I know that as an economic conservative I have limited commonalities with social conservatives within the Republican Party. The various factions within the Democratic Party have a number of discontinuities as well. Rather than continuing the charade that a big tent party wants to serve our needs, shouldn’t we try to break into the components and let our reps haggle on details after elected.

I’ll vote for Bob Barr in November. Doesn’t everyone deserve a candidate that represents most of what they believe.

By Get Real

June 23, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

HIDT @ 8:55 tell me who was it that expanded government the most of any President in history? You got it, your man W. Republicans keep talking about less government, but they are the ones that actually make it bigger. * BFKaJ @ 8:54* says that he agrees with Barr on 98% of the issues, but would vote for McCain?? So you’re 100% in agreement with McCain I assume. Or you’d just rather have another Republican as President, whether he’s the better candidate to you or not. Thats what got you guys Bush in the first place. How is that working out?

By WFC

June 23, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

I want “W,” Cheney, Rove, et al as far from the corridors of power as possible. Voting for Barr won’t promote that. Ditto McCain, so it’s less-than-perfect Obama by default.

By Claude

June 23, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

What exactly has Bob Barr done for conservatism? In Congress, he was no economics whiz. He couldn’t do anything for social conservatism because that brought attention to his messy personal life. Since losing his Congressional seat, he’s just been a crazy crank denouncing any common sense attempt to prevent terrorism. You vote for someone because you want that person to actually win the election and hold the office. Bob Barr wasn’t really qualified for Congress and certainly isn’t qualified for the Presidency.

By bronco

June 23, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

Considering the candidates we have with the other parties represented, I would vote for Bob Barr. Sam Nunn doesn’t deserve a VP position behind Obama, to me that would be an insult to Sam. This man should have go after the Democratic nomination. He is a leader and has the respect of all of Washington. Its a shame that Americans are so hungry for leadership that they are voting color. Nobody had heard of Obama before. And they still don’t know the man. But his skin is dark so he is “going to lead us to the glory land”.

By HIDT

June 23, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

How in the heck do you have any idea who my man is? You don’t. My man or woman is the one who will work for less government, energy independence (which, by the way, is a huge key to winning the war on terror) and bringing manufacturing back to the U.S.

By Get Real

June 23, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

HIDT assuming by your disdain for liberal, I highly doubt you voted for Kerry or Gore. Easy assumption by your post. Ignoring the fact you voted for the guy won’t change the fact that you did.

By Tom Ga Hunter

June 23, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Obama=4 more years of Clinton….McCain=4 more years of W Bush… Bor Barr=NONE OF THE ABOVE.. If the party formerly known as the Republican party wanted my vote they would not be the BIG GOVERNMENT, BIG SPENDING party.. Barr has my vote

By @@

June 23, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

Jim:

I have little respect for an individual who tries to change the party from without.

Say what you will about McCain (I’m likely in agreement), but his efforts to try and change the party from within takes far more courage.

From me, it’s a NO to Barr and Yes to McCain.

McCain is who he is, and isn’t that what we look for in a politician?

Obama has gone from radical to leftist to centrist. The man has an identity problem which fits right in with the dem party’s political strategy - Divided we stand.

By HIDT

June 23, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

It’s not your business, but here you go. I voted for George W. Bush in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004. In fact, in order from my first presidential election my choices were: Reagan, Reagan, Bush, Bush, Dole, Bush, Kerry. I am pro-choice, anti-bureaucracy, pro-defense, pro-freedom, anti-regulation, my favorite color is blue and I’m a leg man, especially Sigourney Weaver’s and Jessica Alba’s.

What of it?

By dirty harry

June 23, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

By @@

June 23, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

BUG EYES. You write this..”McCain is who he is, and isn’t that what we look for in a politician?”

Who he is? This guy resembles a fish out of water…In two weeks he has flip-flopped 10 times on important

issues…http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/16/mccain-sets-a-new-record-10-flip-flops-in-two-weeks/

By Rodney S.

June 23, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

If your party ignores the principles that you stand for, why continue to vote for it? A vote for Bob Barr is a message to the Republican party to return to its roots. If Bob Barr costs the Republicans the White House, SO BE IT. We survived 4 years with Carter and I’m sure we’ll survive 4 years with Obama. Maybe in 2012 we’ll be presented with a true conservative running for president.

By Get Real

June 23, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Sigourney Weaver, wow. She was ok in Alien.

By Redneck Convert

June 23, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Well, I won’t vote for Barr on account of all that will get us is this Obama elected. Barr can’t get enough votes to win but he can take enough votes from McCain to let Obama win.

We all know what is going to happen on November 3. Millions of White people are going to step in the voting booth. They will intend to vote for the Democrat but then they will hear in their mind what my daddy always told me. Boy, don’t you never vote for one of Those People. Anyhow, they will want to vote for the Democrat and they will intend to vote for the Democrat but then they will hear Boy, don’t you never vote for one of Those People. And before you know it they will push the button by McCain’s name and hit Vote and another godly Republican will be elected President. And they will leave the polls and get in their car and shut their eyes and say I was true to you, daddy.

That ain’t going to happen if they are silly enough to vote for Barr. They can look theirselfs in the mirrer and tell theirselfs they voted for a conservative.

Anyhow, just look at what happened to this Bradley in the Mayors race in Los Angeles a few years ago. All the polls said he was ahead by 15 pts. and he already had his swearing in suit ready but then the White voters got in the booth and heard Boy, don’t you never vote for one of Those People and Bradley was beat bad.

So don’t vote for Barr. Keep this country Pure and White. Vote for McCain even if he is a librul. Leastwise he’s our White librul.

Have a good day everybody. And remember what your daddy told you to do. Or not to do.

By sweetpea

June 23, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Not in this lifetime will I vote for Bob Barr.

By Barr None

June 23, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Vote for Barr?? Are you kidding me?? The man has done nothing, NOTHING, for the last few years except whine about what he feels is right. If its a choice between McCain and Barr, then I’d opt out completely. Neither candidate is going to be good for the country at this time. Mccain is all war, no economics and certainly no fresh new ideas. Barr is only know for the impeachment proceedings against Bubba. Not much more than sideline dustups, and yet, here Jim is trying to play it up as if it matters. Go Obama!! I think the GOP and its spin offs (the party of unhappy Republicans = Independents) are realizing that the clock is ticking on their kind.

By HIDT

June 23, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

And another a*umption where you, Get Real, make a, well, you know, of yourself is a*uming a disdain for liberals. No, I’m all for people of all political persuasions working together for the common good. We have a leadership vaccumn in this country, which has formed two closed camps lobbing shells at each other, leading to the slow decay of our great nation. I think Obama and McCain are in closed camps with no real committment to the hard choices that need to be made to save this country. McCain truly is the lesser of two evils in my eyes.

What of it?

By Fulton

June 23, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

I don’t consider myself conservative OR liberal, I’m a human being first. I believe in voting for the best candidate available & don’t stick to partisan rules or politics, so I’ll vote for who ever that can fix this mess.

Would I vote for Barr? Probably not, but if he came to the table with good ideas, I’d surely at least listen.

It’s sad that so many are blinded by stupid party alliances, which prevents them from thinking clearly, addressing the real issues & getting the best man or woman for the job.

Don’t believe me? Just watch how ugly & silly these blogs get when people start name calling & finger pointing…

By Dave

June 23, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

You got it wrong - Obama = 4 more years of Carter!

By HIDT

June 23, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

Yeah, the underwear scene at the end when she’s in the escape shuttle is especially delicious.

By Evelyn

June 23, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

If he had a great health care plan that made medical insurance more affortable and portable. Nearly everyone gets to a point in life where they have pre-existing medical conditions. Too many folks feeled imprisioned by health care insurance considerations; they can’t afford to change jobs, retired, etc.

If Barr could free Americans, on this front, he could do it, he could peel off enough from both sides to win.

By Dusty

June 23, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Well, great!! It seems a few people here have discovered they don’t want to do without a Republican in the White House. It’s a slow awakening but better than none for the forgetters.

The thing is, George W. Bush is a brave man determined to protect this country. McCain has the same determination. Barr is but a bramble in the political field. Vote for him?? R U kidding?? Or vote for Obama, the worst political storm cloud to ever threaten the White House?? no no no no

I do not want some afraid-to-fight silver tongued orator or a drop-by pinch hitter for President. I want someone who isn’t afraid to stand on his or her own two feet and declare their love and protection for this country. We can do without a lot of things but NOT devotion to our America. That will never CHANGE and I will never vote to CHANGE the finest country in the world.

By Redneck Convert

June 23, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Well, I see where that other Redneck Convert done tried to write my piece for me today. I’ll add just a little bit to say I hope he does go to vote on Monday, Nov. 3, along with all the other libruls, so we can get us that McCain elected. Even better is if they’d wait til Wednesday, Nov. 5. This beer ain’t gonna deliver itself. Have a good day everybody.

By Aquagirl

June 23, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

Thank goodness around 230 years ago a group of men weren’t willing to hold their nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. They risked a lot more than 4 years of Obama or more George Bush. Too bad there aren’t more Americans willing to follow the Founding Fathers’ example of not following the herd—while blaming the herd for what’s wrong with this country.

By Analchord

June 23, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

I’m consevative on some issues, like abortion, taxes and entitlements.

I’m liberal on some issues, like abortion, taxes and entitlements.

I’m always for something before I’m against it, then if it polls, I’m 4 it again, and so on , and so on, and blow me…..

I wear flag pins, flag thongs, flag nipple piercings, flag socks and flag shirts.

I wear the islamic head covering when I visit a dunkin donuts. I’ve been banned from 32 of them.

I burn the flag if I see a hot feminazi cause that’s never failed to get me laid.

I’ll vote for Bob Bar, then lead his impeachment.

I’m for the military but against the war. I’m for a strong defense but a weak offense. I’m for funding the troops, but I’m 4 bankrupting Haliburton.

I’m a democrat but wish I was a monarchist. I’m a republican but would rather be a fascist.

I’m a bad boy.

By Get Real

June 23, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

What of it HIDT, well this is a blog where you post comments and people respond to them. Your view is McCain being the lesser and I would’ve wholeheartedly agreed with that 8 years ago. Since then he has fell in line with all of Bush’s policies since then. The tax cuts, oil drilling, healthcare, social security. I mean who wants their retirement benefits tied in with the stock market the way it is? He’s become nothing more than a panderer to get elected. He believes we shouldn’t talk to our enemies. I never understand that about Republicans. They want the U.S. to walk around like the biggest, baddest country on the planet but are afraid to talk to advesaries. He spouts that he was a foot soldier in the Reagan Revolution, but Reagan negotiated with and eventually became good friends with Gorbachev. Reagan is God within the Republican Party correct? So if it was good enough for him to speak to our enemies, my do these Conservative-lite politicians think negotiating is making the enemy do what we want them to do BEFORE we negotiate with them?

My response was in regards to your statement about old time, liberal, big government. No one has expanded government more in the last 40 years than Republicans have. That is the biggest misconception of Republicans. Yes, Roosevelt brought about the New Deal which also expanded government, but that brought to fruition the jobs necessary after the Great Depression. Bush’s Homeland Security and Seniors Healthcare Plan only doled out money to his corporate cronies on the taxpayers dime. Conservatives have lost their way. I thought they always stood for low taxes, small government, and a strong military.

They claim to want government to stay out of citizens lives, but keep pushing this surveillance bill and I won’t even bring up Terry Schiavo. Repugs want to be Patriots and all about supporting the troops, but don’t want to pass a new GI Bill. That alone turned me off to McCain, with him being the former war hero and all, saying that this bill is TOO generous to the troops. The same troops fighting this War on Terror that Republicans say has to be fought. The hypocricy of it all. Maybe Wooten can put forth facts on why we should vote for McCain, but I can’t think of many.

By Dusty

June 23, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

Well, now we have the usual phony racial rant from RedNeck Convert, who thinks he is pretty cute. Actually, RedNeck grew up in the Bronx. He wants to be a Southerner REAL BAD. But, as you see, his act is no good.

Undercover libs try to drawl, but they only dribble.

By Dennis

June 23, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten writes; “Question of the day to Democrats and Republicans: What would make you vote for Bob Barr? I have no intentions of doing it, but if I came to believe that there was no difference on national security, on taxes and on judicial appointments, I could essentially sit this one out and vote for Barr, a guy I like and respect.”

“Why would you vote for Bob Barr” or Ralph Nader, or anyone else other than one of the two “major” candidates?

You won’t put this in your paper, Mr. Wooten, but the answer is not that hard.

Although you, others like you, the Democrats and the Republicans would like the American people to think so, there is “no [major] difference on national security, on taxes and on judicial appointments” between the two major partys.

It’s all the BUSINESS PARTY, Mr. Wooten.

It’s ALL the BUSINESS PARTY.

As to some immediate evidence of that, although there’s plenty more, the Republicans have worked their bottoms off to grant immunity to the telecom industry for its roll on illegal spying on Americans, thus, in effect, granting immunity to George W. Bush and friends.

The Democrats, who also get big political contributions from the telecom industry, are so anxious to follow suit (and are doing so) that they might as well be licking the bottoms of Republicans.

In fact, on this matter, that’s exactly what they’re doing.

All of this hogwash that the telecom industry might refuse to cooperate in the next national castrophy if they aren’t granted immunity is pure smoke.

If the wishes, the feelings, the insights of Americans were really important, there would be on the ballot a real choice, “None of the above.”

But that would be giving the American people too much freedom.

I don’t want Barr. I don’t want Nader. I don’t want Hillary, and I’m beginning to think I don’t want Obama.

I’d bet I’m not alone.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Dusty

June 23, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

RedNeck should be honest like me and have a real racial rant. Mulatto men scare me and therefore I will not vote for Obama.

By Blind Homer

June 23, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

America has lost it’s way due to the accumulation of power by the two parties. Look what we’ve had for choices, Bush, Kerry, Obama, and McCain. I’m voting for Bob Barr, it’s a step toward returning to government of, by and for the people!

By Dusty

June 23, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Oh fiddlesticks, PoFo. That last post was NOT Dusty.

By Davo

June 23, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

Will a vote for Barr matter? Realisticaly it would be nothing more than a protest vote; but I wonder if the GOP has the courage to act upon it. It’s really quite amazing to me to see how far they have fallen since 2000. It’s pretty obvious to me that there are real conservative voters out there but where is the conservative candidate? I won’t be voting for McCain or Obama because…believe what you will…they really are not that different to me. Neither is a conservative; McCain is a complete sellout, Obama is a starry-eyed dreamer. Both will sell out our treasure and freedoms for Isreal while doing nothing to secure our borders.

I think I’ll sit this one out…It’s gonna be Obama by a wide margin anyway. Failure is a good teacher, I hope the GOP will learn it’s lesson by 2012

By Dusty

June 23, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

OK PoFO ID thief…wants to be Dusty…

Stop stealing my ID. NOW you’ve done it twice. 10:47 & 10:49. The ID on those two should be PoFo also known as Analchord,etc. etc. etc.. Excuse him folks. Poor baby, he yearns for attention.

By HIDT

June 23, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

All I ask is not to assume my support for all the silly crap you cite. I cannot stand much of what both major parties have become. I am neither liberal nor conservative, but I am what a friend of mine describes as “wildly practical.” The silly crap on both sides disgusts me.

By alan

June 23, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

He is not change we can believe in.

Alan

By ghost rider

June 23, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

By Dusty

June 23, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

DUSTY..Are you so dense, or rabid that you don’t understand that 70% of “OUR” country thinks G.W.B. has taken the U.S. in the wrong direction?

It is time for a change! Your ongoing mantra about love and protection of country is getting mighty stale.

As far as Bob Barr goes .. Who cares?

By Analchord

June 23, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

The New York Times called him “splenetic”. I had to look it up. Then they wrote that “overt spleen” had crept into his act lately. I had to look that up too.

Did you know that spleen means morose? Splenetic is ill-tempered and peevish.

I knew I loved to laugh when I was a child. Jack Benny. Jack Benny. Jack Benny. (always say it three times, or you’ll bomb next time on stage guaranteed).

In the sixties, George Carlin made me laugh more than Bill Cosby or Flip Wilson. There was something special about George Carlin. I couldn’t tell exactly what that was because I didn’t smoke pot until 1971.

Through the seventies, his irreverence matched perfectly our drug culture. If Jimmy Hendrix was the king of acid, then Carlin was the grand wizard of pot, hands down. Cheech and Chong. Richard Pryor. The seventies had the best comedy, even if the music sucked. (sorry jimmy) There’s always a trade off, isnt’ there?

I dont know when Carlin stopped being funny. I think it was when he tried to perfect the nuances of word-phrases that rang funny. He did an interview a few years ago on PBS and he admitted that he wrote down words as he stumbled across them that he felt had some potential for that odd echo of entendre. I know exactly what he meant. Those words expose themselves to you for a second, and if you dont write them down, and you never do, (I dont know why, but I’ve missed out on dozens of them over the years), then they’re gone forever, and you wont get a second shot at them. Write down your insights. Write them down. They occur while driving. They occur while walking in the forest. They drop out of the trees, man. Write them down.

One of Carlin’s last books opens with a litany of oxymoronic odd phrases and double entendre’s that begins, “I am a hard this, soft that, old who young where, hi tech low maintenance, etc…” It labored. It didn’t work. It was too obvious. He dissected the words too far. He was old, and comedians cant get old. Comedy is young. We want our comedians to be childish. Imagine a nursing home patient who says, “Why do they call it a bedpan? It’s not a bed. It’s not a pan. Why cant we just use the little boys room like everyone else? I want to lay down something permanent and be remembered for a long time yet my nurse says I’m just a flash in the pan.”

Anyway, these oblique words never written down are pure gold. You see what you can do with them and you rejoice over the home run you’ll hit on stage, but you’ve got maybe 15 seconds to write it down, and no matter how sure you are that, “There’s no way I’ll forget this bit”, it will evaporate like the recording does in five seconds on the 60’s mission impossible TV series.

Just like that, it’s gone. I had the greatest Betty Davis bit every written and lost it at a traffic light. I’ll never forget the horror. I also had the greatest shoulder pad on women’s t-shirt bit every thought of and lost it and even though it’s been 15 years, I still try to recreate the moment in the woods when I forgot it to try to jog the memory. I was walking along, happy as a lark, imagining the laughs when this chick appeared out of nowhere, I mean, where the hell did you come from and it jarred the bit right out of my head. I was so angry. Then once, at Kennesaw Mountain, I was writing down a bit that appeared, and I was getting to the crux when this other chick knocks on the window of my car, and she looks like there’s an emergency or something, and I roll the window down a crack and say, “Yeahhhh….?” trying to act annoyed even though she was a total babe. “Can I use your cigarette lighter to plug my phone into it’s starting to beep and I’m in the middle of a call.”

The bit was fading fast, I opened the door and said, you can have the car, and I ran down the path toward some picnic tables for refuge, still clinging onto the vestiges of the bit hoping to wrangle it from oblivion and the chick yells, “Sorry to bother your important writing things your emininence king guy person thing….”

or something like that and poof it was gone. The bit of the ages was gone cause some babe felt entitled to intrude on an innocent comedian sitting alone in his Sequoia. Even though it was ten years ago, I remember every detail. Mozart was on the radio. I wore a bic. The chick wore short shorts. I probably could have cranked her if comedy wasnt’ so important. I should have cranked her.

I cant believe I lost that bit.

By charlescorley

June 23, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Goooood morning/ me and 2 woman sat in front of a Wal-Mart in Morrow, Ga. on a wk-end in May of 92 and collected 567 good signatures for Ross Perot. I couldn’t give away that many $100 bills. We put up a sign that said “Perot petition drive-Sign up here” and by noon we had a traffic jam. Thank God he dropped out but I saw how starved white America is for another choice. Bloomberg was my choice this time but he e-mailed me in Feb. o7 and said thanks but he wasn’t going to run this time. It can be done but only with grassssssssss roots support. Hind-sight tells me that when perot sent out 20 of his employees around the country to moniter the petition drive, they became intoxicated with power and the grass roots movement was dead and so was Perot. My mother taught me to look for the good and I found that in all of those wonderful people who signed our petition.

By Dusty

June 23, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

ghost rider @11:14

Did you know I don’t care what OTHER folks decide? I think for myself. You think I’m stale. I think you are just one in the whining crowd.

Maybe you should study a little history. When Abraham Lincoln was president, most of the country thought he was going in the wrong direction and couldn’t run or win a war. When he found the right general and won, then they decided he was OK. History judges him excellent.

George W. Bush has not only kept us free, he has found the right generals and freed two countries. You may think that is nothing. I greatly appreciate being free from further attacks on my country.

History will be very kind to our President. The back sliding complaints of the left will be a mere blip in history. Bush will be remembered as a strong defender who stood firm against our enemies and defectors and complainers at home.

By Gail

June 23, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

I will NEVER understand why somebody would waste their vote on somebody that they KNOW will NOT win…..Barr is nothing but a SPOILER……he probably wrote the long post on here about himself. He bought a house in our neighborhood just so he could run before. NOW of course he is gone.

By Bill

June 23, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

Barr is about as worthless as Newt Gingrich. A couple of turkeys in love with hearing themselves speak.

By Michael

June 23, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

uh…no

By Tony

June 23, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Barr offers an opportunity to send a signal to both parties. The Republican’s offer little more than a conservative democrat, and dems offer a empty suit. If you are really ready for change, you will vote Barr.

Why is Sean Hannity So Angry

By catlady

June 23, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Would never vote for the man. Occasionally he says something I agree with, but then, a broken clock is correct twice a day, right?

By ghost rider

June 23, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

By Dusty

June 23, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

ghost rider @11:14

DUSTY, do you just have your old stale, trite answers saved so you can copy and paste them here?

You refer to freeing two other countries. What did we free them from?

Who are we (the U.S.) to determine which countries need to be freed?

And, one last question ol’ “Think for Yourself” Iraq never had one thing to do with 9/11 so what prompted ol G.W.B. to attack, and waste a couple of trillion dollars, not to mention over 4,000 U.S. lives, and innumerable Iraqi lives?

Abraham Lincoln…you compare George Bush to Lincoln…You are dense!

By catlady

June 23, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

Would never vote for the man. Occasionally he says something I agree with, but then, a broken clock is correct twice a day, right?

By Analchord

June 23, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

Gail, google Ralph Nader.

Ralph is saying that it doesn’t matter, dem or Rep. They are sold out to the same lobby machine, foreign owned.

Ralph is saying that Iraq would have happened bush or gore.

Is he right? Then vote for ralph nader.

It doesn’t matter, my friend. The saudis decide who wins, not us. I wonder if Bush is really Gore with a mission impossible mask on and a fat suit?

I wonder so many things that I cant understand, and it makes me so confused!!

Barr 08: What’s the diff?

By @@

June 23, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Who he is? This guy resembles a fish out of water…In two weeks he has flip-flopped 10 times on important

Dirty @ 9:55:

As has Obama. Isn’t ^^^ that interesting.

John McCain has always been a centrist, which is what alienated him from many conservatives. Only during the campaign has he wiggled around in the narrow margins just right of. He initially set out to appease evangelicals during the campaign and then stopped. Obama, on the other hand is soliciting their support in behind-the-scenes meetings.

So Obama wins the nomination by appealing to the left, then moves right once he’s got it in the bag.

McCain’s entire political career has been that of a centrist politician. Once he began the campaign, he moved right.

They both are who they were. McCain will be the middle-of-the-road politician in great demand.

Obama will be the radical leftist.

It’s important to know the difference between a politician and politicking.

By Curious George

June 23, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Don’t you need three people for an anal chord?

By Eric

June 23, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

Yes, definitely! Barr is the only candidate against government intrusion via Real ID and other “Orwellian” threats to civil rights.

By @@

June 23, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

Oops! Should have been

As has Obama. Isn’t <<< that interesting?

By Jud Williams

June 23, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

If Bob Barr could be identified as a true Paleoconservative (which the Libertarians are basically ) and who emphasize religious heritage, national identity, tradition, civil society and states rights and oppose illegal immigration, communism, authoritarianism, social democracy and entitlement programs, then he would be worthy of my vote. After hearing him on the CNN Glenn Beck Show, I have my doubts that he embraces the core beliefs of the Paleoconservatives (True Conservatives). I feel he shares some of the imperialist notions of the Neoconservatives such as the Republicans starting with Reagan, up to and including McCain. Neocons were founded by former Trotskyists who originated in Eastern Europe, whose structure and beliefs have left-liberal origins and should not be identified as Republicans.

By mjn

June 23, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

I’m sick and tired of the multitude of people who identify themselves as Libertarian and then not putting their vote where there mouth is and actually voting Libertarian. There seems to be always an excuse why they can’t ever do it. If you are not going to ever vote Libertarian then don’t call yourself a Libertarian.

By DrP

June 23, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

What would make me vote for Bob Barr? A referendum to send him back to whatever communist country he came from.

If you vote to “send a signal” rather than for the best person for the job, then you’re shooting yourself in the foot. Morons.

By SaveOurRepublic

June 23, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

I’d definitely vote for Barr over Globalist Elite puppets like “McAmnasty” & “Bacrock Obuma”. Let’s stop buying into the bogus “Left/Right” paradigm folks! Choosing the “lesser of two evils” is still choosing evil, and the Republicruds have proven themselves shills for the Internationalists time & time again. McAmnesty is a proven “RINO” anyways. Now that Dr.Ron Paul (a great American patriot) has officially bowed out (after he was marginalized by the controlled MSM), the most electable candidate is Dr.Chuck Baldwin of the Constitutional Party. Like Dr.Paul, Baldwin’s platform is one of true freedom (less government, abolishing the private Fed & their collection agency the IRS, defending the Bill of Rights etc.). There’s not a dime’s worth of real difference between Globalist pawns McAmnasty & Obuma!

http://www.constitutionparty.com

By abby

June 23, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

2 parties = 0 choice!

By Cy Brown

June 23, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

Absolutely NOT! He needs to withdraw, but his ego won’t let him, of course! A VOTE FOR BARR IS A VOTE FOR OBAMA! Regardless, I don’t think it will make more of a difference. The only good thing I see coming from it is that Obama will be tempted to spend more money in Georgia, thinking he has a shot, and he will still lose by 5-7 points…unless his “volunteers” commit massive voter registration fraud…that is the ONLY way Hussein Obama can win!

By jess

June 23, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

NO

By Drew

June 23, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Yes, I might vote for him. I don’t believe he’d win, but seeing the “choice” we’ve been given, I’m guessing a protest vote will be entirely appropo. I’m really tired of people pandering their way into the most powerful job in the world.

And heck, if Obama=4 more years of Carter, then that would mean 8 more years of Reagan afterwards, right?

By Libby

June 23, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

I’d consider it, just so long as Barr doesn’t run any ads saying ‘he’s just gooder!’ Promise?

By Dusty

June 23, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Ghost Rider,@11:50

I would be ashamed to ask what you ask. What countries did we free? and “From what?*

Talk about dense..

Get out your handy atlas and look up Afghanistan and Iraq. Then find the meaning of Taliban, Osama in laden, Saddam, wmds, CIA, Brit Intel, Blair, terrorism, 9/11, the Cole, World Trade Center, hamas, hezbollah, Ahmajinebad, Islamicfascists and ruthless dictators.

I won’t try to explain anything to you. You are brainwashed into liberal subservience.

By SOS

June 23, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

If you’ve not got a Fourth of July staycation planned, up in Chattanooga they’re having a three-day program at Abba’s House in which the Talibaptists and Pentacost-al-Qaedas will whine about the societal assault on Christianity.

Yes, folks, in case you haven’t heard – in spite of the fact there is a Christian church on every corner in the U.S., the faith is in danger of being eradicated by big business, the government, Santa Claus and Ralph Nader.

So, Take a Chance on Me and visit Abba’s House to join the movement to return the Sharia, er, rather Christian law paradise it had always been until that liberal Kennedy screwed everything up.

Much like we invented contemporary Christian music to make us believe we’re cool, too. We Christians have taken a cue from the radical Islamists to take aim at the infidels among us. Join us at Abba’s House, won’t you?

“You can dance, you can nnhaha, having the the time of your life. Whoo hoo. See that girl, watch that scene, digging the Dancing Queen … “

By getalife

June 23, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

“In a segment ending with the disclosure that “Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace is brought to you by “The People of America’s Oil and Natural Gas Industry” and immediately followed by the American Petroleum Institute (API) front group’s misleading ad, the Fox News host seized on one of John McCain’s more recent flip-flops siding with President Bush’s recent call to rescind the ban on offshore oil drilling and asked over and over why McCain won’t cave all the way to big oil and also allow for oil exploration in the Alaskan Arctic Wildlife Refuge, ANWR.”

Just in case you are dumber than dusty, this is proof fox is the corporate propaganda channel.

All lies and propaganda that idiots like crusty the clown actually think is the truth.

By The surge is working...?

June 23, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

and Dusty is brainwashed into a conservative coma.

By SaveOurRepublic

June 23, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

To all these well-intentioned folks who keep harping on defense (having been deceived by the Neocon, Machevellian rhetoric via controlled propaganda outlets like “Faux” News), I’d strongly urge you to do some research on “false-flag opertions”. Also note CIA funding of the Mujahideen (that eventually merged into Al Qaeda)as admitted by former Carter NSA Zbigniew Brzezinski). I also stongly suggest you watch the following informative documentaries (all free via YouTube &/or Google Video)…

-“Terrorstorm” -“Loose Change” (2nd Edition) -“9/11 Road to Tyranny” -“America : Freedom to Fascism”

By ghost rider

June 23, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

By Dusty

June 23, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Ghost Rider,@11:50

DUSTY…same-O…same-O…

I can almost quote you verbatim with the crap you are going to deliver to the table!

“Osama in laden, Saddam, wmds, CIA, Brit Intel, Blair, terrorism, 9/11, the Cole, World Trade Center, hamas, hezbollah, Ahmajinebad, Islamicfascists and ruthless dictators.

Again, Just to help you out DUSTY, Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with any of your accusations. Yes he was a “ruthless dicator” but then so are about ten + others on this continent…Are we going to spend trillions more, and countless lives trying to convert them to our way of life?

Right now, due to our misguided foreign policy we are detested throughout the world. Perhaps you should travel outside of the U.S.(Have you ever been? For that matter have you ever been outside the south?) and spout your nonsense, and see how well received your opinions are.

By Randy

June 23, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

See, now that’s what I’m talking about …

AP – John McCain hopes to solve the country’s energy crisis with cold hard cash.

The presumed Republican nominee is proposing a $300 million government prize to whoever can develop an automobile battery that far surpasses existing technology. The bounty would equate to $1 for every man, woman and child in the country, “a small price to pay for helping to break the back of our oil dependency,” McCain said in remarks prepared for delivery Monday at Fresno State University in California.

McCain said such a device should deliver power at 30 percent of current costs and have “the size, capacity, cost and power to leapfrog the commercially available plug-in hybrids or electric cars.”

The Arizona senator is also proposing stiffer fines for automakers who skirt existing fuel-efficiency standards, as well as incentives to increase use of domestic and foreign alcohol-based fuels such as ethanol.

In addition, a so-called Clean Car Challenge would provide U.S. automakers with a $5,000 tax credit for every zero-carbon emissions car they develop and sell.

By Fed Up

June 23, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Since when are the two major parties entitled to my vote? If McCain (or Obama - hahaha) wants my vote, earn it!

By Copyleft

June 23, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Well, that’s just crazy talk, FedUp!

By willie b

June 23, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Haven’t been here in awhile..But, not much has changed.

DUSTMOP…Is still lying!!!!

By JackP

June 23, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Yes, he is my man.

By getalife

June 23, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

Waxman is on C-Span2 summarizing and stating all the fraud in Iraq from his hearings.

The list is long and our government is boken.

Time to shut it down and lock up all the criminals.

By Wait a minute

June 23, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

So, I’m supposed to claim my ‘economic stimulus’ check as income when I file for ‘08? Thanks Mr. Bush.

The Republicans have become Democrats. They are the same thing.

Yes, of course, I will vote for Barr.

By Terrence

June 23, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

don’t cherish it to waste it wooten.

so NO!

By Jonny

June 23, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

I am voting for Barr because I am a libertarian minded voter. If I were to vote for either major candidate, it would be a vote for Obama because of McCain’s stance on Iraq. But if there weren’t a Barr to vote for, I would leave the presidential vote blank. I’m not a lesser of two evils kind of voter. I either vote for the candidate or I don’t vote at all. I compromise every day of my life, I’m not about to compromise in the voting booth.

By j. edward goodwin

June 23, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

I AM voting for Barr, and can’t stand the attitude that he’s just a spoiler. The fact is he is a candidate for the Libertarian Party and that party has a platform that Bob Barr represents. So, I’m voting for him, not because I wish to see Barack Obama or John McCain win, but because I can’t in good conscience vote for either of them and because Bob Barr’s candidacy represents my own political ideals.

By Dusty

June 23, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

GhostRider the brainwashed @1:00

Maybe I can give you a few clues to reality.

Iraq is a country in the MIDDLE EAST, with ‘friendly’ Syria and Iran as neighbors.

Osama’s hideouts are BETWEEN Afghanistan and Pakistan. He’d love to hideout in Iraq.

The surge has worked and terrorists are now being fought by Iraqis, instead of terrorist having headquarters there.

Israel is fighting the terrorist Palestians Hamas who have vowed to rid the world of Israel completely. US tried to help with peace there.

Indonesia and Phillipines and Spain and countries in East & West Africa and Europeans are also fighting terrorists.

Did you notice that we have had no more terrorists attacks? Suppose you thank George W. Bush and our military for a that.

And…since you asked; Yes, I have been outside the country, London being one of my favorites. But I like our neighbors Canada and Mexico and have enjoyed their company some.

Anhything else you want to know?

By getalife

June 23, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

“Milwaukee police said they have restored order but will remain outside of the Marcia P. Coggs Human Services Center after a crowd awaiting free food vouchers became unruly this morning.”

Ah, food lines like the depression.

Heckofajob w.

Resign in disgrace.

By Netta

June 23, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

I don’t trust a man who will not own up to his ethnicity to run for or be the president of these United States. Would I vote for Barr? H_llllllll no!

By BS Aplenty

June 23, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

McCain ‘08 Just for the FREEDOM of it!

By GeorgiaLegislatorsAreCriminals

June 23, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

I am going to vote for Barr.

I definitely will not vote for John McCain simply and only because of his stance on “sex offender” issues. McCain has proven that when it comes to those issues, he will ignore the facts and reality just like most other politicians. He will pander just as much as the rest of them and pass any number of laws that are not just worthless, but worse.

McCain co-sponsored legislation in Congress that will require all people listed on this country’s glorious Sex Offender Registries to report all of their e-mail addresses to law enforcement. Is there anyone with an I.Q. over 100 that thinks that will do a single productive thing? Anyone? Anyone care to admit to that? Of course, it will do nothing productive but it will do plenty that is counter-productive. And it will cost a fortune. But who really cares, we can always borrow more money, right?

I also will not vote for McCain because I will do anything and everything to harm Georgia’s political leadership. I think keeping McCain out of office will help.

Really, who is going vote Republican or Democrat anyway? Who looks at those two parties today and what they’ve given us and says “Yeah, we need more of that.” Are we really that stupid? Do we all think we need more government?

By BFKaJ

June 23, 2008 2:31 PM |