Thinking Right

By TW

June 19, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

Has ever a candidate ruined it for another member of their party more than ‘w’ has for McCain? It started off in 2000, South Carolina, when ‘w’s team told everyone about an adulterous affair McCain had with a black woman than brought about an illegitimate daughter. And then, well, let’s face it, nothing has cut the legs out from beneath McCain’s run in 2008 more than ‘w’s abortion of a presidency. Jesus Christ couldn’t win as a republican in 2008.

Real shame the republican party continues to support ‘w’s defilement of a war hero. The party of the true conservative would have a problem with this. Where did it go?

By Craig

June 19, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

Ahh the RNC attack of the day, faithfully transmitted by Mr. Wooten.

“Change? Change? We don’t want not stinkin’ change! Four more years of Bush policies!”

I’d be thrilled with change back to the policies of the ‘90’s, without the drama of course. Balanced budgets, smart foreign policy, common sense economic plans, and economic growth for America.

Obama ‘08….

By Redneck Convert

June 19, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

Well, thanks to my TV getting shot up I needed to borrow a newspaper to catch up on things and read what I could find on my PC.

It looks to me like this Obama is finished. If you like drilling in Alaska and off shore, McCain’s your man. If you don’t like it, he’s still your man on account of he’s said he didn’t like it. If you don’t like My President’s tax cuts, McCain’s your man. If you do like them, McCain’s still your man on account of he now says he wants them.

You can’t beat a man like old man McCain. No matter how you look at the issues he agrees with you. You can always find something he’s said that flat-out says what you think.

I almost feel sorry for this Obama. He’s spending jillions on running and he’s got no chance going against a man that just slides into your mind nice and easy. Not to mention Obama’s one of Those People. When good White people get into the voting booth you just know they ain’t going to vote for one of them. People say they ain’t got nothing against Those People, but the Old Ways die hard. When it gets right down to it they think the same way us rednecks think. Only they are too scared to admit it.

Anyway, you can bank on McCain getting elected. No matter how you see things you can find something he’s said that agrees with you. So he ought to be getting around 90% of the vote come November. Maybe this Obama can get in one of them white outfits and serve the coffee in the White House.

Have a good day everybody.

By Shawny

June 19, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

you know, I have always thought this too. By default, we will get change. There will be a new president very unlike the last, no matter which is elected. Far left partisans like to paint McCain as Bush III, but that is inaccurate at best. Obama has uttered the word ‘change’ probably a million times since his campaign started, but what is he specifically going to do. It is working for him, though, as when Hillary added details and everyone figured out what she was going to do, it didn’t sit too well with voters. The abiguous approach is working for Big O.

Watch very carefully as he slides from the left to the left center, now that Hillary is out of the way. The first indication of this was in how he backpeddled on NAFTA. Look for more hints.

By Fred

June 19, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

Since when is any politician from any party a “Change”. They are all just career con artists….

By Fix-It

June 19, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

I wish you guys would get this correct, even CNN got it right. McCain was separated for almost a year before he met his current wife. Do liberals believe that if they keep repeating a lie it will become true? And even better this blog is about Obama’s change or lack there of, so I am confused TW, how did you get to your misconceptions about McCain from the change that Obama is not proposing? That is what smoking pot will do; you can’t seem to stay on track.

By fearless fosdik

June 19, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten:

I’ll leave it to Jack Cafferty, and his observation yesterday on CNN.

“If John McCain doesn’t stop changing his position on the issues, he threatens to make John Kerry look like an amateur.”

By AH

June 19, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

It smells like BO in here. Can someone open up the window we need to change the air to something fresh.

By Copyleft

June 19, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

Yeah, it would be a shame to switch from bad policies that have failed to good ones that could work, wouldn’t it?

Because that’s not “REAL change,” in Wooten-land.

By Josh

June 19, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

With the democrats not wanting to drill in alaska and on our shores, why would u vote for one when gas prices are 4.00+ a gallon? I really don’t understand what people see in Obama?

By Tom Ga Huntert

June 19, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

Obama= Carter 4 more years…….McCain= W Bush 4 more years…….Bob Barr= NONE OF THE ABOVE, less bad then the rest….This is not hard to understand.

By PANTHA MAN

June 19, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

OBAMA GOING TO MAKE ALL YOU HATERZ PAY!! YOU WHITE PEOPLE THINK YALL SO BAD BUT NOT IT PAYBACK TIME!! NOW WE GOING TO GET PAID BACK FOR ALL THAT TIME YOU HAD OUR PEOPLE AS YOUR SLAVES!! YALL WILL NEVER GET AWAY WITH THAT AGAIN!! NEVER!!!!!!!!!!

By zeke

June 19, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

Right Jim! Obama is a socialist, liberal, marxist, communist anti American way nut! Witness by the turn to of all things Clinton staffers! What an idiot! Now the true agenda starts to show! Progressive is the new code word to hide their true agenda, socialism!

By CC

June 19, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

I’m ready for any change, as long as it is change. Obama should put George Bush on his advisory panel, ask ol’ pudding head himself a question, any question, then Obama should do the exact opposite of whatever George says he should do. George has been perfect at one thing, being wrong. just turn that around and we got our great country back.

By BFKaJ

June 19, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. My practice is to accept words only to the extent that they do not contradict actions. I think it is fair to suggest that Obama represents a change from an administration that acted firmly against proclaimed enemies of the United States. Rather than install an Islamic Republic, I infer, as suggested by Jim in the morning essay, a reversion to Clintonian foreign policy. Many of us remember that the Clinton years were a period when the Europeans thought we were swell, and the Islamist movement grew into a force that believed it was free to attack US interests anywhere in the world. Of course that was also the period when former President Carter was assigned the task – by President Clinton himself - to give away nuclear technology to the North Koreans, and of course that technology was successfully transferred, with still rippling effects throughout the Middle East. To the extent that Obama suggests he would rein in the wild spending of the Republican era, I believe he lies. That is directly in contrast to his voting record in Congress.

Obama has sent us mixed signals on the free trade, which to me is a threshold measure of economic competence. Either he does or does not wish to renegotiate NAFTA, perhaps the only intelligent international effort of the Clinton administration.

On a second threshold measure, level of taxation, we also see mixed signals. Some recent chatter from the Obama camp suggests that Obama realizes that US tax and regulatory policies have made American-based companies uncompetitive internationally. I think that lesson may have been underscored by Ireland’s slap at the EU last week, the rejection of meaningful EU political power. The Irish know what has fueled their 15 year economic run - the conscious application of Reaganomics – and their rejection of the superior governance of “Old Europe” was pleasantly in character for my ancestors. Is Obama smart enough to renew the Bush tax cuts? I think he is a quick learner, and his every action now suggests he is beginning the Herculean task of softening up the loonies controlling his party, preparing them for the economic necessity. Time is short.

We now suffer an ascendant Supreme Court, arrogating to itself the minutae of war policy. Obama has been conspicuously silent on the bizarre development; who ever heard of an attorney being silent? Will he support appointees of the sort that manufacture “standing” for noncitizens who have never visited the shores of the United States? Does he value those who invalidated the second half of the Fifth Amendment in the Kelo decision. I infer, from his silence, that he does indeed support those horrific and politically unsustainable decisions. A leftist court, irreversible, is the only way Leviathan can impose its will on the United States, as actual political votes on those issues would be punished harshly by voters.

By TW

June 19, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

Fix-It - we circle about the toilet today because we have been listening to small minds.

Big minds talk about ideas, average minds about events, small minds about other people. The rightwing ‘media’ has, for the last eight years at least, demonstrated ‘small mind’ tactics. As they are the ones who have had the country’s ear, we must acknowlege that we are where we are as having based our politics on the advice of small minds.

By attacking Obama, Mr. Wooten continues the rush, hannity, o’reilly style of failure ‘reporting’.

The right has been given a war hero to support - why not talk him up rather than put the other guy down?

By Tim

June 19, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

Hey Jim,

Didn’t Dick Cheney and “Disco” Don Rumsfeld come from the Regan administration? Why try and cloud the waters with this BS? You guys say there is no experience, but when a team of folks that have made their bones is offered, you call them retreads. Maybe He should get down with Hariett Meyers!!

By ron

June 19, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

Good morning all,Since there have been no Democratic Presidential advisors for the past 7 years,who does one think Obama would turn to?Rumsfeld and Rove?I understand his talking to the Clinton advisors.

Change?Obama isn’t going to change unchangeable Washington.He will raise taxes.He will increase social programs.He will increase the deficit.He’ll have a blisteringly wild first hundred days,then the dust will settle and the smoke will clear and America will have to assess wher it stands.First he has to get elected.Anything he says between now and November will be empty words.

tom ga hunter—Barr = dead end,nothing,zip nada.

Redneck,3 inch magnums?

By hirsutedawg

June 19, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Jim, In a career chock full of stupid questions & statements this might be the dumbest question you’ve ever put forth. This Change is not a campaign slogan, it’s about charting a new course and moving in a different direction. It’s about subtle, nuanced thought and who has the ability to restore pride in our great nation. It’s about who can begin the generation long task of un-tarnishing our standing in the world and the re-affirming of our Constitution. I implore anyone who has not already made up their mind to wait until Obama & McCain are side by side discussing the issues. The choice then will become crystal clear. Change indeed.

By opieandy

June 19, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

Jesus Christ couldn’t win as a republican in 2008.

Uhhh, JW, Jesus Christ was unpopular and ultimately crucified. Bad example.

By SB

June 19, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

QUOTE: From Redneck Convert: “Not to mention Obama’s one of Those People. When good White people get into the voting booth you just know they ain’t going to vote for one of them.”

You’re an idiot. A black man named Barack Hussein Obama running up against the whitest of whites Hillary Clinton and beating her…. are you kidding me? Seems to me without WHITEY he’s not on the ballot… she is.

By T

June 19, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

I would like to know where Sen. Obama stands on illegal immigration. Anyone read anything about that? I would prefer my tax dollars go to Americans. Or at least those who are contributing to our economy.

By getalife

June 19, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

BAGHDAD — Four Western oil companies are in the final stages of negotiations this month on contracts that will return them to Iraq, 36 years after losing their oil concession to nationalization as Saddam Hussein rose to power.

Mission Accomplished.

By Just Nasty and Mean

June 19, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

Morn’in Jim et al,

Obama has sweet talked thousands into thinking “Change” is good for them. Well, let’s see:

1) Is it good “Change” to let the Bush tax break on capital gains expire, when he KNOWS it has a negative impact on the economy, employment, corporate expansion, investment etc.?

2) It is good “Change” to withdraw troops from Iraq while on the precipice of victory over Saddam and Al Queda?

3) It it good “Change” for Obama to not strive for energy independence by not drilling when alternative fuels are just not ready yet?

4) Is it good “Change” for Obama to enact a windfall tax on oil companies when he knows the tax will just be added to the cost of fuel?

5) Is it good “Change” for Obama to naively believe he can talk to foreign Islamic radical dictators and lend the credibility of the President’s office of the United States, out of their terroristic actions?

6) Is it good “Change” for Obama to nationalize 14% of the national economy (the healthcare industry) for government control. This is FASCISM people!

You REALLY want this “Change”. If you do, may God help us all since America—as we know it— will be dead.

By Anyone But Hillbama

June 19, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

The only thing that comes to mind when I see the words “change” and “Madeleine Albright” in the same sentence is how often she changes her Depends when they become full of s—t!

By Get Real

June 19, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

Leave it to old fart Wootie to keep stirring the pot. Any change is better than what Bush has been offering, and McCain is ever more slightly falling right in line with him. He was Mr. Environment a month ago, now he wants to dril, drill, drill. Being that he gave his energy policy speech to a bunch of Oil Execs in Houston, what should we take from that Wooten? Whose interests does it seems like he would put first? He could’ve stood out in front of any gas station in America, and his intentions would’ve at least appeared more genuine.

Old fart Wooten keeps saying that Obama is inexperienced, but W had one of the most experienced Administrations in history and how did that turn out? Doesn’t make experience all that important when you look at it like that huh? Cheney had decades of ‘experience’ Wooten.

Old farts like Wooten have nothing positive to say about Bush or McCain so its attack the Democrats at all costs. Thats the only way they can win this election. McCain voted in lock step with Bush 95% of the time last year, what should that FACT tell you? You’d think with the passing of Tim Russert that most journalists would take some sort of inventory of themselves and try to present FACTS and be a little more impartial. But know old fart Wooten, being that he can’t say anything positive about his own party he’d rather just tear down the other. How about you do this Wooten:

Be an honest journalist (if thats what you are) and not keep spitting the same old recycled crap.

By AH

June 19, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

McCain would love to debate Obama on issues but Obama is afraid to do it. If BO has a speech in front of him then he sounds like the perfect TV president. You ask him a question that he doesn’t have a prepared response for he is like a babbling idiot.

If he were to stand next to McCain in a debate he is going to look like a confused fool. That is why he is hiding from the media and McCain. When is he going to debate McCain, he has set up time every week from this point on. Obama does not want you to know he stands for because he doesn’t stand for anything other than take from the rich and buy votes.

By Geoff

June 19, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

We have heard something new Jim, only he turns away people at his rallies because the are wearing head scarves!

So far, I think that’s the only change I’ve seen, but it’s change I desperately don’t want to believe in.

By AH

June 19, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Now the coward is breaking his written word that he would use Public Financing. Now that he is getting more money he breaks his word. What kind of President would do that.

By Tom Ga Huntert

June 19, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

ron…….Some of us can see past our nose, you should try.. We are working at the farm this week since it’s only in the mid 90’s, you know deer stand stuff, do you want to join us?? Do you know what a deer fly is?

By Geoff

June 19, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

We have heard something new Jim, only he turns away people at his rallies because the are wearing head scarves!

So far, I think that’s the only change I’ve seen, but it’s change I desperately don’t want to believe in.

By ron

June 19, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Tom Ga Huntert,I’m an old country boy Tom,well acquainted with farms.Barr has only a slightly better chance of being elected than I do and that’s only because he’s on the ballot.How’s that for seeing past my nose?

By Peter

June 19, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

Jim, I think there will be a great WONDERFUL change.

The ideology that brought us the 2.7 Trillion dollar WAR, will be gone.

The Ideology that gave away huge uncontested, overpriced contracts to buddies in the sector having to DO with the WAR. Also allowing theses companies to not only Bilk America, but never push them to finish the JOB, will be gone.

The Ideology that supports Financially a Government that is supposed “Democracy”, but really is based on Religion, and says it is OK to Rape a woman will be gone.

The Ideology that allowed Bin Laden to be FREE, so he could continue to build his Taliban Murdering Army, the actual BIGGEST Terrorist Threat to a secure USA, will be gone.

The Ideology that espouses we are “securing America”, yet give cancer causing FEMA trailers to Americans, and wanting to give control to our US PORTS to foreigners will be Gone.

The Ideology that has America in the LARGEST DEFICIT ever, and created the Largest government EVER will be gone.

The government that has WEAKENED the American Dollar will be gone!

Jim I can go on and on if you would like.

America needs a new path, and clearly New Leaders that really care more about America, than their place in History!

By R_U_KIDDING

June 19, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Hey PANTHA MAN, I am American Indian, what payback do I get? At least your ancestors where slaves, mine where just killed. If you are looking for slavery payback, please somebody show me a former slave or slave owner, please. 90% of the people here in America did not live here during slavery so they should not be held responsible. So PANTHA MAN, take your racist rants to Obama’s church, they will like you there.

By TW

June 19, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

getalife - thank you for your information this morning about the big oil accomplishment in Iraq. I’m sure the wide, ignorant, redneck base of the republican party will be ecstatic to hear their promised wealth is in the pipeline. After all, they are part of the spoils…right? I mean, if you voted for the top 1% that makes you part of the top 1%…right? Time to share in the fruits…right?

Morons.

By Fix-It

June 19, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Wow TW, again you can’t seem to keep on track, please stand by your lies, and give some proof to your statements. All the name calling has worked great for you guys on the left, hasn’t it? Why should Wooten support Obama? Because you do? Isn’t that rich? Well for a ½ term senator who voted present more than yes or no, only a bonehead would vote for him.

While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old Texas rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be our President.

By Tom Ga Huntert

June 19, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

ron …Hell I’d vote for you, get on the ballot in the NONE OF THE ABOVE party. You & Bob are better than the above. Got to get out to the swamp, we’ve just drank our last cold beer,, have a great day.

By JeepersCreepers

June 19, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Copyleft: What bad policies? Is this drive by media? Are bad policies simply a platform not of your political liking?

By ###

June 19, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Jim, Ms. Albright was born in 1937 and Mr. Christopher was born in 1925. Are we to take your “semi well preserved” comment to mean that Mr. Christopher is not well preserved, or that you think the worth of a woman is in her appearance? By the way, what year were YOU born? And how would you like for someone to refer to the state of your wife’s preservation?

With regard to the rest of your rant for today, you are really showing how out of touch you are by talking about Woodstock and flower children. Get with the times man! Why not bring up the Teapot Dome scandal or the Yazoo Land Fraud? They have just as much relevance to this campaign.

By spankmonkey

June 19, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Hilarity at it’s best…

Obama is dusting off the skeletons of the Clinton years, much like W dusted off the skeletons of the Reagan/Bush 1 years….

Where was your feigned sense of outrage in 2001 Mr.Wooten?

Oh yeah, the candidate you’d have nothing to do with in 2000 is now your man… That cow left the barn a while back my man, I defy you to write about McCain’s hero credentials now, especially after you chose an AWOL, coke sniffin, alcoholic, draft dodger over that hero in 2000. Are conservatives really THAT schitzophrenic???

By Luther

June 19, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

To ###: Yes, the worth of a woman is all in her appearance and her usefulness to her man. Once her appearance, youthfulness, and usefullness fade, he is free to dispose of her. At that time, she will wither away to a state of past-her-prime purgatory until she leaves this world.

By Curious Observer

June 19, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

McCain would love to debate Obama on issues but Obama is afraid to do it.

I know it’s difficult for morons to cease being morons, so I’ll use small words to explain why Obama has declined McCain’s “town hall” meetings:

Got it? If you have a natural advantage over an opponent, you don’t give away that advantage.

Now go back to the Tom and Jerry ‘toons.

By Get Real

June 19, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

Why is everyone on here so bent up about the Clinton years? Take away all the scandals and I bet everyone here was in a better economical state than they were now. No $3 Trillion dollar war, gas wasn’t $4 (it was barely over a $1). Please tell me how gas, which was less than a dollar for what seemed like 60 years, can go to over $4 in less than seven. The GOP at work with all this deregulation.

Look up the Fascism in the dictionary.

Fascism- a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

Sounds like Bush to me!

By TW

June 19, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

Fix-It - you continue to write a thesis on my assertion that small-minded people talk about other people. I don’t think you know you are doing it, so I’ll refrain from asking you what grade you are in. Instead, let me break it down a little more.

You have a war hero to support. You don’t. Instead, you take shots at the other guy. This means you are a sheep, which explains why you may have been sniffing around that rancher instead of helping him or working your own job.

Albeit, I like the thing about the turtle. Do you have anything for a war hero who unexpectedly spends eight years toting water for an incompetent frat boy?

By Maniac is accurate

June 19, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

I’m 45 and I’d like to see Obama or McCain, either one, reach out to some folks for advice who are my age, all the way down to 28. We need some fresh ideas, particularly if they lean libertarian. I lean toward McCain. I don’t see real change, change to lead this country to energy independence and renewed standing in the world in Obama.

By U-MUST-BE-KIDDING

June 19, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

90% of the people here in America did not live here during slavery so they should not be held responsible. Uh, who are these 10% who are over 140 years old?

By Willie

June 19, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

GetReal: “Research and then explain why every major energy analyst has said that by drilling in ANWR and off the coasts would only produce about 2.5 years of oil, 10 years from now? Remember present the facts.” That is a LIE! Shame on you liberal spewing lies out to good people.

“Explain why/and what legislation did McCain actually vote with Bush 95% of the time. Tell me why I should vote for your party, instead of not voting for the other.” Just like the liberals they stick together regardless of the good of the nation. However, McCain did break many times from the party on issues. Name me some liberals who broke party lines?

“Why is the GOP using nothing but fear to get people to vote for them.” Remember when the Repubulicans were going to reduce the percentage of increase for food subsidies for schools and you liberals shouted “They are going to starve a children” Is this what you are talking about?

“What will McCain do about the economy, healthcare, $4 gas, the war. ” McCain will do as much as the enviromentalists will allow the liberal congress to do.

All of his policies are nothing more than status quo George W. Bush failures. He’s yet to say anything about new jobs. Hey replace George or Bush with the wacko enviromentlalist and see how it reads.

You profess to be wise and thus became a fool…..

By findog

June 19, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

BFKaJ, To quote your Minor deity, “There you go again.” The reason for out taxation is the requirement to be the supreme military power in the world. Ireland can have lower taxes because they do not maintain an arsenal. Either candidate will be saddled with having to pay for President W. Bush taking us into Iraq. It seams that the greatest stretch of prosperity for all Americans came under the level of taxation established in 1993. The problem with the tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 is that they were based on phony logic and were followed by a war of choice and unrelenting spending by President Bush and his GOP held congress. As any Medal of Honor recipient will tell you the moment of truth is, “If not now, when; if not me, who.” So I ask you if we are not going to stand up to our fiduciary obligations as a nation then which generation do you expect to pay for what President Bush and the GOP Congress put on the Treasury’s credit card?

By HA

June 19, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

AH

You should probably slow your roll. Barack will run circles around McCain in any debate forum, you wait and see. I guess you didn’t see last week how it took McCain about 40 seconds to name the most recognizable opponent that he ran against in the primary. The man is in early stages of SENILITY! He looked like he was about to pass out trying to spit out the name! - LOL

Barack is not accepting Public Finance because the weasel Republicans have been (large donation) fundraising on the sly while Barack was still in the Primary through PACs and RNC, so Barack realizes he would be at a disadvantage. But you fools always fall for the shell game. Barack is no fool. Let me go give this brother another $25 while it’s on my mind CA-CHING!!!

By Customer

June 19, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Wooten has convinced me. I’m voting for McCain. So what if Obama wants to change things. Then what? The change will become status quo, and we’ll only just get sick of the available healthcare, the improved education, the infrastructure upgrades, the stable social security, the world peace, the low price of gasoline and the justice for all, and then we’ll vote for change again and the whole thing will come full circle. There’ll be a lot of yelling and I’m getting too old. Lets just vote for McCain, and forget the whole thing.

Wooten’s piece was well written BTW: The woodstock reference effective. The focus clean. It’s easy when you’ve got nothing to lose, isn’t it, Jim.

Obama 08: It wont be like Woodstock. The change will be more like the Monterey Music Festival when Jimmy Hendrix did all that acid, man.

It was far out.

By Why Don't YOU Get Real

June 19, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

To Get Real: Are you freakin’ kidding me? The only people who were better off during the Clinton years than they are today are those who are on welfare! Everyone else who worked hard has made more money, bought more things, invested more and continued to live a better life every year. Just look at the statistics, stupid! How could anyone say they were better off 8-16 years ago than they are now? Even if you just slacked away during that time, you’re making more and acquiring more things! Sheesh!

By @@

June 19, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Well Jim, seein’s how the dem’s nominee has had difficulty controlling his signature BMs (Barack’s Moves), I’m guessing A Diaper Change?

By Maniac is accurate

June 19, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

OK, so if political foreskin is tftt, then I never saw that one coming and I’m not sure how I feel about it. I always thought he was Glenn.

Now if tftt is jacking political foreskin, that is just fooking brilliant and hilarious.

By Dennis Berry

June 19, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten, if you want “change,” then McCain’s obviously your man. He’s changed his position on EVERY important issue in this campaign, from Irag, to treatment of Guantanamo prisoners, to Roe v. Wade, to drilling off the coastlines.

But I assume you like those changes, because he’s now more in line with the “traditional” Republican values (which means ultra-conservative values, now), instead of being the thoughtful pragmatist and occasional rebel he used to be.

Whatever you can say about Senator Obama’s campaign for change, at least it’s consistent. He doesn’t like how partisan divisiveness dominates Washington, how special interests and lobbyists define policies, how all the policies of the past eight years have favored corporations and those who are already wealthy over those of us who still strive.

Fortunately, most of us believe Obama, and recognize that our only hope is the change you ridicule.

The choice is really quite simple: if you want things to stay as they are, support McCain. If you want something else, support Obama.

Most of us are sick unto death of what’s happening now, and we know we need to make a change - a BIG change.

By NS

June 19, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

I especially like the comment a bit above saying we’re on the precipice of victory in Iraq.

Oh, 2003 called, it wants its claim of victory back.

Seriously, about this war thing, we’re in a deeper hole than when it began…for the low low price of the lives of several thousand troops (I don’t even know what the count is up to, these days). It must have been Ann Coulter who posted that comment above. Man, I don’t see why she doesn’t do stand-up comedy for a living. She’s hilarious with those extremist right rants about how awesomely super cool the war is.

I just figured I’d throw my 2 cents in there for the people that think we’re actually making any form of progress in Iraq by staying there.

By Lily Toad

June 19, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

Here’s Wooten’s daily attack on Obama. He obviously doesn’t see anything positive about McCain, so he’s going to keep hammering Obama. How about a column regarding McCain’s positions?

OH, right, his positions change so often, by the time the column went to press, he would have changed it.

By NS

June 19, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

I especially like the comment a bit above saying we’re on the precipice of victory in Iraq.

Oh, 2003 called, it wants its claim of victory back.

Seriously, about this war thing, we’re in a deeper hole than when it began…for the low low price of the lives of several thousand troops (I don’t even know what the count is up to, these days). It must have been Ann Coulter who posted that comment above. Man, I don’t see why she doesn’t do stand-up comedy for a living. She’s hilarious with those extremist right rants about how awesomely super cool the war is.

I just figured I’d throw my 2 cents in there for the people that think we’re actually making any form of progress in Iraq by staying there.

By Get Real

June 19, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Willie you should get cable on that antenna in your trailer. Even your ‘analysts’ on Faux have said that it would take 10 years to produce any oil from ANWR or the coasts, would decrease a gallon of gas by less that $.06 cents, and would not have any impact on the current cost.

Tell me exactly what ‘significant’ bills where McCain has broken with Bush, and I can show you with FACT where he has embraced the same policy he once opposed. DRILLING IS ONE OF THEM, you twit! I see you’ve never heard of the Obama-Coburn (REPUBLICAN) bill that led to the transperancy of government spending. You know, the bill that stopped no-bid FEMA contracts after Katrina. Get your facts before you start acting like Wooten and just saying anything.

Show me with FACT where the Repubulicans were going to reduce the percentage of increase for food subsidies for schools. Where they going to pass the bill and not fund it like No Child Left Behind? Prove it to me. Everything I stated in my post that you quoted can be backed up with fact, not rhetoric.

“The Department of Energy, our own department of Energy, has said, if you drill in Alaska, first of all, you won’t see any results at the pump for 10 years. And after 20 years, you might see a reduction of two cents per gallon. - USA TODAY

Don’t play me slick Willie.

By fairy god mother

June 19, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

By SB

June 19, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

SB..I hate to tell you this, but you are the TRUE IDIOT for not recognizing satire when you read it!

By Get Real

June 19, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

For all you lemmings that believe drilling would solve all our problems. You too Willie.

The Energy Information Administration, which is the Energy Department’s independent analytical arm, estimated that if Congress had cleared Bush’s ANWR drilling plan the oil would have been available to refiners in 2011, but only at a small volume of 40,000 barrels a day — a drop in the bucket compared with the 20.6 million barrels the U.S. consumes daily.

At peak production, ANWR could have potentially added 780,000 barrels a day to U.S. crude oil output by 2020, according to the EIA.

The extra supplies would have cut dependence on foreign oil, but only slightly. With ANWR crude, imports would have met 60 percent of U.S. oil demand in 2020, down from 62 percent without the refuge’s supplies.

-Reuters

By Disgusted

June 19, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

The new McCain slogan:

I WAS AGAINST IT BEFORE I WAS FOR IT

By CC

June 19, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

you can talk about ANWR all you want, you can talk about offshore drilling all you want, or even talk about building more refineries. you can demonize anyone that doesn’t automatically and mindlessly fall in line like they’re ‘supposed to’ by calling them names like the one that’s is worse than the devil himself…’liberal’…ooooo, scary. but the truth is, it’s not about oil stupid! oil is not the answer, the best way for our country to move forward is by thinking smart. trying something different, alternative energy, all the old ideas we had before we got hooked on oil. we can be self-sufficient, hell if Brazil made it happen, we can do it somehow. and we have to get ourselves away from doing business with those idiots that just want to fight in the middle east. oil is not the answer. but the oil companies and their buddies want you to keep thinking it is.

By Lily Toad

June 19, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Since Wooten likes to demonize the 1970’s and Jimmy Carter, how about this? President Carter urged us to conserve gas; develop alternative energy sources; the speed limit was lowered to 55, and people bought economy cars.

What if we had explored alternatives 30 years ago, didn’t embrace SUV’s, and kept driving at a reasonable speed. Would we be in the mess we’re in today?

By Dutchman

June 19, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

It has come to my attention, that the less a leftie has in the way of facts, the more the whine scream and stomp their feet.

When they have real data, they can have discussions like normal folks.

It reminds me of the old Soviet Union.

But, then again, the threat of nationalizing the oil industry also sounds like the old Soviet Union, and Dictator for life(almost, damn fair elections) Hugo Chavez.

Clinton was a crooked President, period. The deals with the Chinese for our technology, the selling of nights in the Lincoln Bedroom to “patrons”. The scandal over going into Kosovo without the UN approval. The Somalia incident, the lack of support for our folks on the ground. And of course, using the intern staff as a new version of the Dating Game. I will not even get into the Vince Foster scandal, Ron Brown (laugh then cry) funeral and many more.

By getalife

June 19, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

The occupation of Iraq for oil is the story of the century.

The largest crime of the century.

Our government is the mafia and big oil is the godfather.

By mac

June 19, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

at several times in recent history the republicans had a president and were in complete control of congress, once in the 80’s and in bush’s first term. why did they not do anything to stop entitlement programs when they had the chance, when they were in control? the government dole actually hurts those that receive it more than it helps them. politicians know this, politicians want to continue the cycle of poverty for select groups, it helps to keep them down. a no republican should complain about any entitlement programs until they are willing to end the two biggest entitlement programs in history that they started: illegal immigration and the iraq war. sweep around your own back door first.

By Fix-It

June 19, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

Hey, TW, as most liberals you still do not answer any questions and still support a junior senator who has no voting record, present is not a vote. Present means I am way too stupid to make a competent decision. Change means that I will get the Clinton rejects to help me out now. Change for Obama means let me get some help from the old guys, the ones he keeps saying he will be different from, what???? So tell me how many times McCain voted present? How about never! So you are correct, I will give McCain his dues, I support 80% of his voting record in congress that means longer than ½ of a term. So again why do you support Obama, and why do you repeat known lies about McCain? Hey TW did I confuse you with a 2 part question? I can break in to 2 questions if that will help.

HA, if Obama will run circles around McCain in a debate, why won’t he do the weekly debates on national television as McCain invited him to do? Can you say chicken?

U-MUST-BE-KIDDING, sorry my typo, 90% of the people here now are not even related to people that owned slaves, and came to America well after slavery. To be honest the percentage of people living here today that are decedents of slave owners may be much smaller. Is that better for you?

By change

June 19, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

private financing of his campaign no special interest money no lobbyist taking over his campaign Not born with a gold spoon in his mouth Not married to a millionaire

The change is that he is smart, self made and not controlled by the usual puppet masters in Washington

By deegee

June 19, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

The discussion around drilling in North America for oil is sheer politics. Our administration has known for 8 years that the solution to the problem of oil supply was right around the corner. It just took them a little longer than they thought it would to reap the rewards. It’s a very bright horizon for the American oil companies and the politicians that pulled off a big hoax on the American public still reeling from the 9/11 attacks. We were had by the Bush/Cheney oil machine. How many more are going to die in the battle to award no-bid Iraqi contracts to the American oil companies?

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/19/africa/19iraq.php

By findog

June 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

mac, in the 80’s the GOP only had the senate. wasn’t until 94 they got all of congress…

By ghost rider

June 19, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

By Dutchman

June 19, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

DUTCHMAN…you talk about facts! But, you don’t seem to have any…Somalia was King George I liability. Remember now? Clinton turned the operation over to the U.N. in 1994.

As far as Vince Foster, and Ron Brown…One a suicide the other dying in an airplane crash what are your facts other than that is what transpired. Do you without facts see sometype of conspiracy?

You say a “SCANDAL” about going to Kosovo without U.N. approval. Truth is this was a NATO operation….

Don’t let the facts get in your way DUTCHMAN!

By COL. [retd] A.M.Khajawall

June 19, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

From one concerned citizen of U.S.A,

Dear American Voters, reporters, media. professionals, political parties, and presidential Nominees,

Hon. Senator McCain and Obama, besides each having many attributes and characteristics. The critical differences between the two of these presidential presumptive nominees in my opinion are as under:

In my professional opinion Senator Obama leads in all above qualities and attributes.

Senator Obama and his administration along with congress will address all the critical current and future domestic and foreign issues, challenges, and opportunities in coming years.

Let us remember and recite following concepts:

” Family, Friends, Fellows, Faith, Funds, Foundation [s], Fun, with Freedom & Fairness and without Fear, Favor, & Failure” . It applies to every citizen of our Greatgrand Nation.

Please stay involved, stay engaged, and stay informed. Please do not allow any seduction, deception, and or confusion by some partisan media and leaders effect your vote [ Psychological Terrorism ]..

Yours truly,

COL. [retd] A.M.Khajawall Disabled American Veteran Forensic psychiatrist, Las Vegas

PS: Please talk about the ” Presidential Temperament And Caliber ” of our presumptive presidential Nominees. We do talk about the “Judicial Temperament” of our Supreme Court Justices nominees and so far we have failed to talk about the ” Presidential Temperament ” of our presumptive presidential nominees. The ” Presidential Temperament ” is the ultimate and in my opinion only requirement of our president as that effects every living soul here and around the world.

Thanks again.

By Dutchman

June 19, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

deegee,

Odd, in the International Herald, it says -“Exxon Mobil, Shell, Total and BP — the original partners in the Iraq Petroleum Company — along with Chevron and a number of smaller oil companies, are in talks with Iraq’s Oil Ministry for no-bid contracts to service Iraq’s largest fields, according to ministry officials, oil company officials and an American diplomat.” Of the original 4, only one is a US oil company - yep, we are really making strides.

I guess that one company will take over everything - or are only the US oil companies bad?

By HA

June 19, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

Hey Fix-It. It’s simple.

HE DOESN’T HAVE TO!

And he can do so ON HIS OWN TERMS!

It’s good to be in the cat bird seat. I know.

You idiots don’t want to admit it, but you know in the depths of your hearts you don’t have a candidate in McCain. The “real” Conservatives cannot stand him, but must swallow their pride and prop up this clown while holding their noses, because unlile thouse of us of free thought, they are so stuck on labels and partisanship they cannot get the monkey off their backs.

Sucks being a lemming doesn’t it??How pathetic.

By Laughing_Out_Loud

June 19, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

First of all, GetReal, thank you for presenting FACTS as opposed to hearsay.

Fix-it I would much rather have no voting record at all than for my voting record to show that I have stood on both sides of the fence and a vast majority of issues.

This is presented most recently where McCain flip-flopped yet again with the drilling issue. The other day he is for it, but a couple months ago, he publicly said that he was against it. Which one is it?

By Laughing_Out_Loud

June 19, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

First of all, GetReal, thank you for presenting FACTS as opposed to hearsay.

Fix-it I would much rather have no voting record at all than for my voting record to show that I have stood on both sides of the fence and a vast majority of issues.

This is presented most recently where McCain flip-flopped yet again with the drilling issue. The other day he is for it, but a couple months ago, he publicly said that he was against it. Which one is it?

By Dutchman

June 19, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

ghost rider ,

It was Clinton that did not allow extra armor to be used when the commanders in the field asked for it.

As far as Vince Foster, the cloud around that are still popping up every now and then. Re: Ron Browns funeral, the pictures of Clinton laughing and joking, then seeing the cameras and wiping a tear from his eye, that spoke to ALL.

Kosovo - It seemed he acted unilaterally, gathering allies after the fact and not before. At least Bush could convince the UN that Iraq was a worthy target.

By Get Real

June 19, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Why Don’t YOU Get Real @ 10:54. I love to keep schooling these fall for the okie doke Republicans. Check these FACTS out:

The Census Bureau reported that median incomes for working-age families were down again, for the fifth straight year. Real median income for households under age 65 is down by 5.4 percent since 2000, even though the economy has grown every year. All of that gain has gone to upper-bracket people and corporate profits.

The Pew Research Center released an extensive survey on public attitudes about the economy. Pew reported, “The public thinks that workers were better off a generation ago on every key dimension of worker life — be it wages, benefits, retirement plans, on-the-job stress, the loyalty they are shown by employers.” And, statistically, the public is right.

The Globe recently reported that chief executives of nonprofit hospitals now routinely make more than $1 million. University presidents are not far behind.

The Economic Policy Institute (on whose board I serve) has released its annual, encyclopedic report, “The State of Working America.” Among its findings: The economy’s productivity increased by a remarkable 33.5 percent between 1995 and 2005, but real wages have declined since 2000. Employer-provided health coverage declined from 69 percent in 1979 to 56 percent in 2004. The top 1 percent’s share of interest, dividends, and capital gains has risen from 37.8 percent in 1979 to 57.5 percent in 2003.

• Boston Globe, 2006

Don’t come with opinions like old fart Wooten, present hardcore facts ‘stupid’. I’m an Independent so I can agree with any pertinent information from either side. The FACT is, people are working harder now and making less when you take inflation into account. And as to your comment that, “The only people who were better off during the Clinton years than they are today are those who are on welfare,” I guess you were asleep when Clinton ended welfare. Remember the Welfare to Work Bill?? Probably not. Thats the problem with you lemmings, you say anything with no substance to back it up.

By TW

June 19, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Fix-It - you actually voiced support for McSame! Congratulations! You can think!

As far as Obama voting present, it’s really unfair to use this as a comparison, being McSame doesn’t know whether he’s present or not half the time - hence the resume filled with two-faced babble…

And I don’t believe I ever said I support Obama. Probably your two chambered, frog heart of a brain won’t get this, but there are other options.

What I do support, for sure, is the party that allowed itself to be infiltrated and destroyed by ‘w’ be held accountable for placing party before country. Somebody dig up Reagan and tell him ‘thou shall not talk evil of another republican’ has turned out to be a real loser…

By Lily Toad

June 19, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Get your facts straight. Obama never voted “present” in the US Senate. That was in Illinois State Senate, where he cast 4,000 votes in the Illinois Senate and used the present vote to protest bills that he believed had been drafted unconstitutionally or as part of a broader legislative strategy. (from MSNBC’s website)

By deegee

June 19, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Dutchman, 3 out of the 4 countries that were in Iraq before Saddaam Hussein kicked them out years ago are associated with the George Bush/Tony Blair war strategy.

By ghost rider

June 19, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

DUTCHMAN..It was not Clinton, it was Les Aspin the Secretary of Defense who rejected the military request for additional armored tanks!

He was subsequently fired a few months later in December of 1993. Unlike Rumsfeld who continued to serve years after the Iraq fiasco.

And again, you raise the Foster (suicide) Brown (airplane crash) with your supposition about a cloud every now and again…FACTS! Where are the FACTS? Oh, yea I forgot to read the National Enquirer yesterday!

I won’t even venture into the mess that is Iraq!

By BFKaJ

June 19, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Dear findog @ 10:49, you have yet to grasp reality, but that is my purpose here, to show the path. I cannot see that any of your post had anything to do with anything I wrote – not that relevance is a pre-requisite for my attention. You manufacture a false limitation, that preserving western values against Islamists requires higher taxes; you consciously disregard the leftist proclivity for buying votes by stealing taxpayer funds for “reallocation.” Of course, less government is always a viable alternative. You act as if Ireland had no choice to lower its corporate taxes; the choice is always there, but leftists lack the volition. The greatest stretch of prosperity for America ran from 1981-1990 (when taxes were improvidently raised). I agree that 1995-2001 was also a good time, when the economy was spurred by free trade – NAFTA. The post 9/11 malaise was cured by the Bush tax cuts, thus the great run from 2002-2007, ended only by raising the minimum wage and the looming largest tax increase in the world. Seemingly American democrats are slow learners, but the rest of the world is eating America’s lunch, thanks to the tax and regulate mentality of our leftists. As to your final demand, join with me in a move to abolish all of the nonmilitary spending of the US government – abolish Department of Education (they don’t educate anybody), Urban Affairs (since when are local issues a Federal issue?), Agriculture (80% of their spending is welfare, not related to growing anything), Transportation (nothing but a means of extorting politically approved behavior), Energy (unless someone somewhere can prove it has led to production of one therm of energy), and dozens of others.

Special note to Dutchman @ 11:21, your lunchtime post yesterday was brilliant, and I wish I had written it. Apologies for this late compliment.

By The General Feeling

June 19, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Change? I though that meant that Obama was also coming after the spare change in my pocket…..

By Pat

June 19, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Change: What’s left in your pocket after Democrats raise your taxes.
http://www.cafepress.com/DefiningChange

By Must Have Been the Beans

June 19, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

I have really bad gas today. I think I hear the guy in the other cubicle crying.

By fairy god mother

June 19, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

By BFKaJ

June 19, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

BFKaJ you write “(since when are local issues a Federal issue?),”

I would say since the supreme court stopped the recount vote in Florida.

Also, when the Senate leader, George Bush, and a whole bunch of neo thugs attempt to over rule the Terry Schiavo issue.

I thought you were a lawyer???Obviously you’re oblivious to what is going on…

By NoneOfTheAbove

June 19, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Here is why I am scared to death of an Obama presidency:

McCain will not really help us from an economic standpoint. Obama probably would be best as a domestic policy president. BUT, we have two tremendous threats which Obama has proven by his words he has no ability to fathom how to cope with.

ONE: Iran is developing nuclear weapons. Once they have it, so will terrorists. His plan is to “talk” and “appease” them. Their plan is to destroy the West. They will not be happy until we are dead. That is their appeasement. Their hatred of us has no bounds. He has no concept of that. McCain understands that. I believe he is the only one of the two that can keep America safe from that threat.

TWO: The Middle East currently holds us hostage to oil. Obama apparently wants us to continue to be held hostage to them. Why? I have no idea. McCain is on the right track by wanting to open up new drilling and build new refineries. The only way to remove the threat the Middle East represents to us is to remove our dependance on their oil. At the same time, we must spend as much as possible to develop new technology and find a new fuel source to eliminate the need for oil completely. Oil can last us for only another 50-100 years at best. Enough time to find a new fuel source. Obama would tax the oil companies, which would only serve to raise prices higher. McCain would eliminate our dependence on foriegn oil and reduce prices.

Plus, in the event Iran did launch a nuclear weapon, think on this. How could we retaliate if we are dependant on their oil? We can’t launch a nuclear strike ourselves because that would render their oil useless, causing us grave harm. They know they are protected by their oil.

Obama as president leaves us seriously weak in foreign policy. McCain is the only choice.

By Laughing_Out_Loud

June 19, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

If talking to Iran is appeasement, then the Bush administration is also guilty and they are apparently war experts.

By HIllbilly Deluxe

June 19, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

To TW @ 8:22AM I doubt Jesus Christ would run for any office for any party.

To Fred @ 8:42AM Amen. Preach on Brother.

To TomGaHuntert @9:46AM I know what a deer fly is, I killed one just this morning.

To Get Real @10:40 AM If George W has “complete power”, why did his Farm Bill Veto get overridden?

To GetALife @11:26AM If we are occupying Iraq for oil why is gas $4 a gallon?

American Indians didn’t exactly live in peace and harmony before we got here. The Cherokee were in North GA because they ran the Creeks out, after themselves having been run out farther north. Neither the Creeks or the Cherokee were here when DeSoto came through in the 1500s. The Sioux were run out of Wisconsin by the Chippewas. The list goes on and on. Moral of the story: People will always find a way to abuse other people.

By Laughing_Out_Loud

June 19, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

If talking to Iran is appeasement, then the Bush administration is also guilty and they are apparently war experts.

By Fix-It

June 19, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

You people are way to smart for me. I know a 1st year surgical student that needs to get some scalpel time, and he has a friend that wants to be a dentist. Do any of you Obama supporters need some free medical or dental help? I didn’t think so, so why elect Obama he has just as much experience as those guys? Anybody that can try to justify no voting record to a 20 or 30 record has got to be a genius. My mother was correct if you argue with an idiot you just lower yourself to their standards. Not one person has one good reason yet for me to vote Obama, McCain may not be great but luke warm is better that a cold baby bottle drinking, fence sitting, no experience “Change” person. Now all you kiddies have fun today, we grownups need to go to work to support you.

By mac

June 19, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

ok findog you found one little loophole, but what about the other. what about the times when there was a republican president and they had enough votes in congress to get there way, like some of the other stupid stuff they got passed. why when the republicans were in control, and they have been in control in the past, as well as the democrats have, why when the republicans were in control didn’t they eliminate these entitlement programs. and before you call me a liberal, I’m not a dem or a republican, why would I want to paint myself into a corner when the future of my country is at stake? entitlement programs, abortion, religion, new refinieries, ANWR, these are all just distractions, smoke and mirrors, things to get us to argue amongst ourselves as the new robber barons take our stuff. when did ordinary americans find it to be their job to stick up for those poor poor rich people? when did americans decide it was patriotic to tear down other americans for not thinking like the herd? it was lbj that said he was a free man, an american, a u.s. senator and a democrat, and in that order. that’s how we should all be thinking. this ship is sinking, and this petty stupid infighting is helping to ruin our country. how anybody can think george bush is a good man or a good leader is beyond me. how can anybody be a good leader if they have never truly earned anything in their entire life? idiots get a guy in the oil business elected president and oil prices go from $1.30 a gallon to $4.25 a gallon in just a few short years. can everybody please put two and two together. let’s start there if we want to fix the problems we have, let’s start with bush and cheney and then work our way down to the smaller problems. and let me repeat, we have a president who’s family is in the oil business! they are making tons of money. and it’s not because they earned their way to the top, nope, they just happened to be born into a rich and powerful family that hamstrings competition and real free enterprise. just the name ExxonMobil is a slap in the face to real har working americans.

By The good side

June 19, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

I have a question for Mr. Wooten!

Do you get mad when Bin Laden puts out a tape against America?

I know I get mad because it reminds me of 9/11. I guess the conservative really don’t get mad about the man who mastermind the 9/11 attacks on America.

That is why we still talk abot Iraq. So we can get that oil. Our war has pushed OIL PRICES THRU THE ROOF. Because speculators can now have any reason to increase oil prices.

THANKS W just what we needed.

Also tax cutting plans only substained this economy for 5 years and most people are in a worst situation.

THANKS W

By NoneOfTheAbove

June 19, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

Hey, LOL…why do you think we are in Iraq? Obama would pull us out in a heartbeat, leaving the Middle East to do what they want, as they want. I know plenty think that is the right thing to do. But when that happens, then Iran is free to go nuclear without interference. No, the Bush administration is not just talking to them. We are on Iran’s doorstep, and that is much more than just talking.

If Obama wins, he will pull the troops, and at some point during his presidency, there will be a nuclear strike somewhere in the world, possibly within our borders.

The Obama camp complains that the Republicans use the “fear” card. That is because that is the world we live in. We should be afraid. Obama doesn’t realize we have thousands of people who want us dead, and there is nothing we can ever do to change that. They have hated us for centuries, but it is only now they have the ways, means, and technology to do something about it.

By Alloftheabove

June 19, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

NoneOfTheAbove

You are nothing but a BIG @$$ CHICKEN!!

“Waaah, they want us dead, they want us dead.” Get some b@lls chump! That’s the problem with people like you who are ready to give over their rights to someone else for the promise of protection. Sounds like the mafia to me.

What redeeming characteristics do you possess?

b@lls? independence of thought? self reliance? forward thinking?

Lemme guess.. NoneOfTheAbove!

By ollie north

June 19, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

if I wasn’t an American I wouldn’t like the U.S. our foreign policy stinks. and remember St. Reagan negotiated with the Iranians, of course he tried to hide it from Americans and did it against the votes of Congress, kinda like treason. but that’s different right. if we would stop basing our economy of defense contracting and stop running our country on basically just oil, things would get a lot better in a hurry. we need to stop being so willing to be so easily manipulated by these self-serving politicians, on both sides of the aisle.

By Eric

June 19, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

NoneOfTheAbove

You really need to grow a set. You will NEVER be fully protected from any type attack no matter who is the PRESIDENT. It makes me sick to my stomach when people whine over lies created from fear tactics.

By Taxpayer

June 19, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten,

Perhaps another perspective is in order. Assume that Obama, as you say, offers no change. At the same time, he is doing quite well in the polls. Now, why do you think a person that offers “no change” is so appealing? Of course, answering such a question is tricky because it is real easy to fall into a trap of telling yourself what you want to hear. Then again, you aren’t trying to convince yourself of anything, are you?

By old91A10

June 19, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

I suspect PANTHA MAN is a balding, white, fat man with time on his hands while he waits for his porn to download.

By Copyleft

June 19, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

NOTA, Bush also argues that we have to sacrifice our freedoms in order to protect democracy from the Big Bad World. That’s fearmongering, and America ain’t buyin’ it.

By NoneOfTheAbove

June 19, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Well, I am so glad you all believe we need not worry about the Middle East folks then. Vote for the Democrats who will most likely turn the world over to them. In fact, why don’t you go for a vacation to Tehran? When one of them has a knife to your throat, quoting their version of the Khoran while killing you, then tell me how you feel about whether we need to worry about things like protecting our borders, and our place in the world.

You live in a dream world. We can’t ignore them, and we can’t leave them alone and live and let live. That is not what they want. They want our destruction. We are the Great Satan. Not because we meddle in their business. It is because of our religions, our freedoms, our way of life. Only if you are willing to convert to Islam and accept their rule of law will they be willing to allow you to live.

If you can’t understand that, then you get the government you deserve.

By NoneOfTheAbove

June 19, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Well, I am so glad you all believe we need not worry about the Middle East folks then. Vote for the Democrats who will most likely turn the world over to them. In fact, why don’t you go for a vacation to Tehran? When one of them has a knife to your throat, quoting their version of the Khoran while killing you, then tell me how you feel about whether we need to worry about things like protecting our borders, and our place in the world.

You live in a dream world. We can’t ignore them, and we can’t leave them alone and live and let live. That is not what they want. They want our destruction. We are the Great Satan. Not because we meddle in their business. It is because of our religions, our freedoms, our way of life. Only if you are willing to convert to Islam and accept their rule of law will they be willing to allow you to live.

If you can’t understand that, then you get the government you deserve.

By NoneOfTheAbove

June 19, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

By the way, just out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard Obama say exactly what “change” he is offering? I haven’t. I have listened to him time and again, and all he says is it is time for change, but he never says what that change is. He uses the word over and over, but has yet to say exactly what he will do that is different.

So, can someone say exactly what he is offering that is different than anything that has been done in the past? Please give specifics now, what he specifically will do, and how he will do it. Not just “he will fix social security” or other vagueries…I really want to know what his change is going to be. As many times as I have heard him talk, he has never said specifically anything.

Thanks to anyone who can shed some light.

By tai hunter

June 19, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

The ignorance on this blog is dumbfounding. I can’t believe how many of you, knowing you have been lied to repeatedly by the far right, continue to believe the talking points based on false assumptions and outright bullshet. Now I don’t believe the Dems are better, but in this cycle - I’m throwing in with them to get us out of this mess of an economy, and war. I voted for Bush the first time around because of his “compassionate conservative” which is what I believe myself to be. I wont fall for it again with McCain trying that same angle. They are backed by the same people making the same stupid decisions behind the scenes.

By FL Moore

June 19, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

Obama comes from an Islamic background, yes, he may have been raised in South Chicago, but roots go deep. Does this mean the Great U.S.A will turn into an Islamic nation? He doesnt believe in the foundation this great country was created. Plus, end of the world is predicted in 2012. That will be when his term will be over. Islam will be coming over to take what you’ve got. Gonna have to pack up & move to Costa Rica.

By Laughing_Out_Loud

June 19, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

Hey NoneoftheAbove I thought that we were in Iraq because Sadaam had WMD’s? Or was that another lie told to the American people by this administration?

Also, can you tell me what change McCain is offering? Because everytime I think that he is actually standing firm on a position of change, the wind blows and he flip-flops to the opposing position.

Tai Hunter - thanks for the great info.

FL Moore - for the billionth time, Obama is not a muslim, he does not practice Islam. Wow, apparently there isn’t any light under that rock where FL Moore lives.

By Laughing_Out_Loud

June 19, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

Hey NoneoftheAbove I thought that we were in Iraq because Sadaam had WMD’s? Or was that another lie told to the American people by this administration?

Also, can you tell me what change McCain is offering? Because everytime I think that he is actually standing firm on a position of change, the wind blows and he flip-flops to the opposing position.

Tai Hunter - thanks for the great info.

FL Moore - for the billionth time, Obama is not a muslim, he does not practice Islam. Wow, apparently there isn’t any light under that rock where FL Moore lives.

By NoneOfTheAbove

June 19, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

I wonder how many people thought there were no such thing as gas chambers in 1940 and the Jews were just going on vacation…sometimes, some people have to “make others sick” when there is a danger.

In 1933, Germany was a “podunk country”. In 1942, it nearly took over the world, and nearly extinguished a race of people.

It is naive to think that just because a country is inconsequential now and does not have any power, that in a few short years, it cannot become incredibly powerful. And Iran, with it’s uranium plans, can do that very quickly. Why do you think they want the weapons grade plutonium? And wars are usually started by the minority hardliners, the politicians who have something to gain (i.e. - Iraq).

Call me all the names you want, I have called no one here names, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I guess if you have nothing else to fall back on, name calling is usually a good option.

By AChangeTo BeNamed -Later

June 19, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

I can’t imagine voting for someone who says, “change”, but hasn’t uttered a meaningful word about what to change; other than to cut an run out of Iraq as fast as he can! I have nothing against his race, but his oratory frightens me. Hitler was a great orator, too! McCain is proven metal. Obama is unrefined ore. Our country isn’t a smelter and on-the-job-training is not for any President.

By NoneOfTheAbove

June 19, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

I wonder how many people thought there were no such thing as gas chambers in 1940 and the Jews were just going on vacation…sometimes, some people have to “make others sick” when there is a danger.

In 1933, Germany was a “podunk country”. In 1942, it nearly took over the world, and nearly extinguished a race of people.

It is naive to think that just because a country is inconsequential now and does not have any power, that in a few short years, it cannot become incredibly powerful. And Iran, with it’s uranium plans, can do that very quickly. Why do you think they want the weapons grade plutonium? And wars are usually started by the minority hardliners, the politicians who have something to gain (i.e. - Iraq).

Call me all the names you want, I have called no one here names, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I guess if you have nothing else to fall back on, name calling is usually a good option.

By NoneOfTheAbove

June 19, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

I wonder how many people thought there were no such thing as gas chambers in 1940 and the Jews were just going on vacation…sometimes, some people have to “make others sick” when there is a danger.

In 1933, Germany was a “podunk country”. In 1942, it nearly took over the world, and nearly extinguished a race of people.

It is naive to think that just because a country is inconsequential now and does not have any power, that in a few short years, it cannot become incredibly powerful. And Iran, with it’s uranium plans, can do that very quickly. Why do you think they want the weapons grade plutonium? And wars are usually started by the minority hardliners, the politicians who have something to gain (i.e. - Iraq).

Call me all the names you want, I have called no one here names, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I guess if you have nothing else to fall back on, name calling is usually a good option.

By Young Republican

June 19, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

I really like your stuff None Of The Above and think you are a perfect fit for the Young Republicans organization.

If you are between the ages 18-30 I would like to get in contact with you.

By tai hunter

June 19, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

HAHHAHAHAH!!!!

So, alot of you still dont know what Barack wants to change? Are you living under a rock, or truly cant research and only are able to type retarded/false GOP points. Ok pal, heres a quick break-down for you. You should read the actual plans though, as Im not going to go into minutae.

Affordable Health care = CHANGE Sensibly Out of IRAQ = CHANGE More money to Education = CHANGE Tax Cuts to the Middle Class = CHANGE Listening to us Americans more than lobbyists= CHANGE Sensible energy policy= CHANGE Respect the CONSTITUTION and BILL OF RIGHTS= BIG A* CHANGE!!

Those are pretty good changes that McCain aint touching…

By JackLeg

June 19, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Tai hunter, do you actually believe that the “right” lied to us? I guess that means that you believe that the “left” does not lie? Please, they ALL lie. We do NOT have a two party system that is an illusion. We have one big bunch of power hungry lying unemployed lawyers. The left or right it does not matter, we need to vote ALL of them out and get fresh blood in there. It is sickening that some of these old bats literally have to be held up to mumble unintelligently. We should make them live by the laws that they make us live by, forced retirement over 65; if you are convicted of a felony you are fired. While we are at it how about random drug test for the lot of them, that would get rid of almost all of them.

LillyToad, if he did not agree how about a NO vote?

By Maniac is accurate

June 19, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

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The person confirmed the baby’s birth to The Associated Press. The person asked not to be identified because the family had not yet announced the baby’s birth.

(enlarge photo) In this Sept. 20, 2007 file photo, Jamie Lynn Spears arrives at the Teen Vogue Young Hollywood Party in Los Angeles. (AP Photo/Matt Sayles, file) The 17-year-old was the star of Nickelodeon’s “Zoey 101,” a sitcom about prep school friends, and is the younger sister of pop star Britney Spears. The Spears family announced in December that Jamie Lynn was pregnant. The father is Casey Aldridge, a pipe-layer from Liberty, Miss. The couple is not married but announced an engagement several months ago.

By Abe

June 19, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Does it worry any of you Obama people that the number 1 item on his foreign policy agenda is identical to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s?

By Abe

June 19, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Tai hunter wrote:

Obamas tax plan is better for everyone I know (I dont know anyone that makes more than 600k a year -which is when the McCain tax plan pays better) than McCains.

You invented the 600k figure out of thin air. If you support Obama in spite of the fact that he’ll raise taxes on people with MUCH lower incomes (middle class), that’s fine. But don’t misrepresent Obama’s positions.

“Democrat Barack Obama said Sunday that if elected he will push to increase the amount of income that is taxed to provide monthly Social Security benefits. Currently, only the first $97,500 of a person’s annual income is taxed. The amount is scheduled to rise to $102,000 next year.”

The fact is Obama will not only raise Social Security taxes, but will raise taxes on income, capital gains, dividends, gasoline, and corporations. If you don’t generate income or buy anything, you’re probably Ok. For everybody else, your pocket WILL be picked.

Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21739271/

By Alloftheabove

June 19, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

If you wanna hear what Obama means when he says “CHANGE”, all you have to do is clean out your ears, take the heel of your hand and tap you temple as you lean your head to the side so that all the RNC talking points ooze out and you will HEAR exactly what he is saying.

NOTA you really need some medication dude. Your paranoia is destroying you and entertaining me. FYI…I grew up in an american warzone, the PROJECTS; in a major inner city. I have dodged more bullets in my life and seen more people die violently here in the good ol US of A for all of our lifetimes. I’m a survivor. I’m not worried about Middle Easterners with atom bombs.

Plus I believe in God. You right wingers claim to SO MUCH. Let His will be done. Unless nuclear annihilation is in that will you have nothing to fear.

But I forgot..most of you guys’ “faith” is not true Christianity, only a b******* of it.

By DumbAmericans

June 19, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Jim you should send Barry several checks. It is appparent that the old crusty adulterer cannot garner the kind of interest that Barry does so you have not even bothered to waste any space on him.

Bravo.

All we want is the treasonous politicians to follow the constitution.

Those cowards are all on the take and traitors. Every single one of them.

Lets start with ONE BIG CHANGE. GET RID OF DEVIL CALLED BEN BERNANKE AND THE FEDERAL RESERVE.

THIS IS THE ONLY CHANGE AMERICA NEEDS.

ONCE WE RETURN THE CREATION OF MONEY BACK TO THE GOVERNMENT/PEOPLE WE WILL BE RICH AGAIN

WE WANT TO RETURN TO PRE 1913 WHEN WE WERE FREE AND PROSPEROUS BEFORE THE DAMN COMMUNIST BANKERS HIJACKED THE COUNTRY.

By tai hunter

June 19, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Hey Jackleg - I agree totally. I distrust em all too. I have never voted Dem before. But Im also pragmatic. If we could vote em all out, or lock em up for criminal activity like any normal citizen. Im with it. But at this point I believe from what Ive read and seen that Obama will go much further to set things rights than McCain will. But as far as my “right lied” comment. Thems the bones - they did lie. and often. and criminally. they all do it - but this time it borders on war-profiteering and war-crimes. Thats the difference. and its a big difference.

And Mr None of the above. I didnt mean to insult you, or anyone as a person, but many ideas voiced here are ignorant and misguided.

Germany in the 30s was a industrial powerhouse. In no way was it podunk-!! The US at that time was considered backwater. But to say germany of old is a reflection of modern iran is frikin wrong on every level. germany attacked other nations, has iran? Has iran mobilized for war? has iran got destroyers of off our coast? The US looks more like the germans of old than than the iranians. sad but true.

By Must have been the beans

June 19, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

The guy in the next cubicle’s not breathing. He has turned blue and is kind of stiff. Should I call someone?

By tai hunter

June 19, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Hey Jackleg - I agree totally. I distrust em all too. I have never voted Dem before. But Im also pragmatic. If we could vote em all out, or lock em up for criminal activity like any normal citizen. Im with it. But at this point I believe from what Ive read and seen that Obama will go much further to set things rights than McCain will. But as far as my “right lied” comment. Thems the bones - they did lie. and often. and criminally. they all do it - but this time it borders on war-profiteering and war-crimes. Thats the difference. and its a big difference.

And Mr None of the above. I didnt mean to insult you, or anyone as a person, but many ideas voiced here are ignorant and misguided.

Germany in the 30s was a industrial powerhouse. In no way was it podunk-!! The US at that time was considered backwater. But to say germany of old is a reflection of modern iran is frikin wrong on every level. germany attacked other nations, has iran? Has iran mobilized for war? has iran got destroyers of off our coast? The US looks more like the germans of old than than the iranians. sad but true.

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

June 19, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

You like the status quo Jim? You’re happy with America attacking, oppressing and murdering people in Iraq? Satisfied with the United States operating torture pits and violating human rights around the world? Fed up with the Constitution and support its trampling by George W. Hitler? Like having your emails, phone calls and internet destinations logged, listened in on and reported on? Agree with the way the economy has been wrecked by the policies of GWH? If you do, and I know you do, Methuselah is the fossil you need to vote for. Some folks won’t entertain the idea of voting for Obama because of his race. You won’t hear them say that but a good dose of truth serum would unearth their real reason for not wanting him. Too much change! The fact is that Obama represents, in his own skin, what America has always claimed to be: a melting pot. He is black and he is white. He is, whether black or white, one of us. He can bring us together, end this ridiculous war, return the United States to the fraternity of nations of decency. I’ll take that change. it’s real change and it’s long overdue!

By Abe

June 19, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

We must talk with all leaders of the world. period. we dont have to agree, but this “they must do what we say before we talk to them” approach is bullshet. I’m NOT talking about terrorists. Leaders of nations. Elected.

That someone believes the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, Libya, North Korea, etc. “are elected” is frightening. Oh, I forgot, Jimmuh Carter certified their elections.

Bet your nose grows as you type.

Question: After President Obama talks to Ahmadinejad (who tells Barry to shove it), what’s next? Barry has just played his next to ultimate card.

After that, Barry has to let Mahmoud continue to build his nuclear weapons program as Obama has no stomach for defending America’s interests abroad—having “redeployed” (retreated) from Iraq.

Obama’s top foreign policy adviser quotes Winnie the Pooh as a key guidebook for U.S. foreign policy.

All of Iran must be laughing at us.

By tai hunter

June 19, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

OBAMAS TAX VS MCCAIN

heres where I got my comparison of McCain vs Obama on tax. i though it was common knowledge by now, but here it is anyhoo.

BREAKING DOWN THE NUMBERS Here’s how the average tax bill could change in 2009 if either John McCain’s or Barack Obama’s tax proposals were fully in place. MCCAIN OBAMA Income Avg. tax bill Avg. tax bill Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885 $603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974 $227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12 $161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789 $112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204 $66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290 $38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042 $19K-$38K -$113 -$892 Under $19K -$19 -$567

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

June 19, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

None of the Above, hey stupid, quit worrying about Iran having nuclear weapons. Only one nation in the history of the world has used nuclear weapons against the people of another. That would be the United States!

By SaveOurRepublic

June 19, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

“DumbAmericans”…you’re 100% correct! The same Globalist Elite who control the private Fed (& International Banking Cartel) control 95% of the traitors on “Crapitol sHill”! “Bacrock Obuma” & “McAmnesty” are puppets of the Globalists & will continue to implement their agenda & destroy our (quickly fading) Constitutional Republic!

http://www.jbs.org

By tai hunter

June 19, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Shoot it butchered the format of the tax numbers so heres a few links instead.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/obama-missing-chance-campaign-tax/story.aspx?guid={654C85A3-BA02-4DE8-BAB2-296135323425}

http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidatestaxproposalstpc/index.htm

Bottom line - MCCAIN TAXES YOU MORE!! unless you are uber-rich. Me? I have 3 kids and a stay at home wife and we get by with 40k. I’ll look forward to our tax breaks from Obama

Abe: I’ve got a question for you. Why the hell are we over there anyhow?

By NoneOfTheAbove

June 19, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

Tai, thanks for explaining Obama’s “change”…by the way, everything you mentioned has all been promised to us in the past by others. Each and every thing you mentioned, well, with exception of getting out of Iraq, of course that would have to be new. Why is it that anyone thinks Obama can get these things done when no one else was able to?

I am well aware of his promises. I have listened to him, been to his website. THat is why I asked if anyone could tell me what his “change” is going to be, because all I hear is the exact same thing that all politicians have said for the past 20 years. He says it a little differently, but it is still the same promises.

Americans are so gullible.

By Abe

June 19, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama may indeed not be a Muslim at present. I won’t dispute the point. But his web site states: “Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised as a Muslim, and is a committed Christian.” [Emphasis added.]

This contradicts Obama’s half brother who states that Obama was indeed raised a Moslem. In fact, “Barack Obama’s half brother Malik said Thursday that if elected his brother will be a good president for the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background.”

Why would Obama not tell the truth about something that shouldn’t matter? His own brother stated he was raised as a Muslim. If Obama won’t tell the truth on something that doesn’t matter, why should we think he’ll tell the truth about something that does matter?

Perhaps Mr. Obama will issue a statement saying “The Malik quoted is not the same Malik that I know.” Or he could just call Malik a “crazy uncle.”

If you cannot believe something as basic as the religion that Obama was raised under, why should you believe anything else he says? Isn’t Obama’s slogan “change you can believe in”?

Here’s the source plus a picture of Obama and Malik—both in Muslim dress. http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12918.htm

By Peter

June 19, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

One has to enjoy this comment…..

“By Dutchman June 19, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

It has come to my attention, that the less a leftie has in the way of facts, the more the whine scream and stomp their feet.”

OK Dutchman please let us know where Bin Laden is and why has he not been caught?

Please tell us how a 2.7 Trillion Dollar WAR is “Conservative”.

Please tell us where the Iraq OIL Money is going?

Do you have any facts or opinions that do NOT include name calling?

Another interesting point about the Right Wingers…..

“The right has been given a war hero to support - why not talk him up rather than put the other guy down?”

Great point I guess the Right Wing doesn’t have anything positive to say about a Flip Flopper!

By Eric

June 19, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

NoneOfTheAbove

Seems to me YOU are searching for all kind of excuses to not vote for Obama. That is your right if you don’t want to vote for him.

What I don’t like, many others here would probably agree, is your using others to help make up your mind. Your questions have been answered, yet you refuse to listen. So why ask in the first place? LOL

By findog

June 19, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

mac, sorry just wanted to set the time of total domination of the government straight. BFKaJ, when are we going to pay the credit card debt off? And no I will not join you; you sound just like W’s first state of the union, cut everythin except wht I want! How about defending the USA and not liberating people like W was proud of saying before he got the title POTUS? Left, right, middle, doesn’t matter the economy sucks because the value of the dollar has been driven down by run away spending, or as you say theft [except you blame the dems for all of the thivery, even during the times of total gop domination].

By tai hunter

June 19, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

OK Mr. Noneoftheabove If those changes arent worth voting for…what is? I believe Obama will do what he says. Nobody knows what anyone will do. BUT McCain is lock step with these guys who got us in this economic mees, and the war. So thats good to go with the other guy. Obama is a constitunional scholar, so He’ll probably respect the laws. Thats a good change. National Health care hasnt been a national priority like it is now. So my reasons of change arent good enough for you thats fine - vote for war. vote to pay more taxes. vote to sheet on the constitution, bill of rights. you vote your way Ill vote mine, and well see. It certainly seems if you are defending failed policies - you are the gullible one. Not those who chose to make things better. Now you are a jackass.

By tai hunter

June 19, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

OK Noneoftheabove, If those changes arent worth voting for…what is? I believe Obama will do what he says. He’s not perfect by any means, but he is far far far less beholden to special interests than a candidate has been for a looong time. Nobody knows what anyone will do in office. BUT McCain is lock step with these guys who got us in this economic mess, and the war. So thats good enough reason to go with the other guy. Obama is a constitunional scholar and professor, so he’ll probably respect the greatest of our laws. Thats a good change. National Health care hasnt been a national priority like it is now either.

So my reasons of change arent good enough for you thats fine - you go vote for war. vote to pay more taxes. vote to sheet on the constitution, bill of rights. you vote your way Ill vote mine, and well see. It certainly seems if you are defending failed policies - you are the gullible one. tool.

By Eric

June 19, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

Here is a question for all of those harping on Obama’s religous beliefs.

Lets just say at some point in his life Obama did practice Islam. It is not possible for him to become a christian? The Apostle Paul use to kill christians for sport and yet became one of the greatest christians ever known to man.

By Abe

June 19, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

I’d be glad to answer your question tai hunter, but you never answered mine.

First: Why’d you make up the “Obamas tax plan is better for everyone I know (I dont know anyone that makes more than 600k a year” quote?

Second: After President Obama talks to Ahmadinejad (who tells Barry to shove it), what’s next? Barry has just played his next to ultimate card.

Here’s a bonus: How will punishing people who create jobs (Obama’s payroll tax increase) and produce capital (capital gains tax) help the economy?

If you’re voting for Obama just because he’ll send a few of someone else’s bucks your way, then you sure have a low price by which you are bought. If you make $40K and have three kids, you aren’t paying payroll taxes now.

Answer mine and I’ll answer yours.

By TW

June 19, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

If Obama is as bad as the right claims, how come they ain’t throwing McSame no coin?

Big hat, no cattle?

Yup.

Many thanks to the GOP for giving us our first black president. Too bad they had to needlessly kill so many of our soldiers in the process.

By tai hunter

June 19, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

Abe - I did answer, it just got lost in this mix. Here goes again.

Read this on Obamas tax plan. http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidatestaxproposalstpc/index.htm

I don’t pay enough tax? You don’t have a clue. I am self employed multimedia I.T., and I get killed by taxes, absolutely eaten alive. This is another reason I support Obama. He recently voiced support for getting small business up and supported. We are a big-box chain store nation - and little guys like me get squeezed.

Your main problem with your outlook on Iran, is you assume that any and all meetings/diplomacy will be fruitless. You assume that all diplomacy is wasted. That is a sad state of beginnings. Iran doesnt have to be an enemy - they are being positioned as such. By the same crazies that got us into iraq.

What you probably dont know is that Iran tried to normalize relations with us after 9/11. They even offered substantial help in finding al-qaeda in the middle east. They dont like those wackos either. But we snubbed em, severely. Bush did so knowing down the line that they make a nice “axis of evil” line to feed the public. and create a new adversary.

• So heres this. If Iran let UN nuclear inspectors in Iran, and these inspectors found only nuclear research for civilian use reactors/energy, would you advocate a more relaxed diplomacy with them?

Would you support normalizing relations like we did with japan and germany after the wars? Instead of an advocate of wanton destruction. Iran cannot threaten us. What would it take for you to stop advocating dropping bombs on their heads?

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