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‘Can I afford the payments’ on Obama ride?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Is it “demonizing” Barack Obama to point out that he’s “the most liberal senator” in Congress? Mike Huckabee, auditioning for the vice presidential nomination on the Republican ticket, says “I think we will make a huge mistake if we try to demonize Barack Obama.” Is identifying him as a liberal demonizing him?
If so, the first big mistake goes to the lone Democrat in Oklahoma’s congressional delegation, Dan Boren, who is the son of former U.S. Senator David Boren. “I think this is an important time for our country,” Boren said in an interview with the Associated Press. “We’re facing a terrible economic downturn. We have high gasoline prices. We have problems in our foreign policy.”
While Obama talks about reaching across the aisle and fashioning a new Washington, “unfortunately his record does not reflect working in a bipartisan fashion.” Boren speaks the truth, of course. Obama is a factory-issue leftist who is as partisan as they come in Washington. There’s a real disconnect between the talk and the walk.
Boren represents a mostly rural district that gave two-thirds of its primary vote to Hillary Clinton. “We’re much more conservative,” he said. “I’ve got to reflect my district. No one means more to me than the people who elected me. I have to listen them… Our nominee is not my first choice.”
Huckabee, who made the comment about Republican activists demonizing Obama while campaigning for a state senator in New Hampshire, does have good political insticts, even though I far prefer a host of others to him as the vice presidential nominee.
“I’m grateful for Barack Obama and his magnificent climb and the journey he has made” as the first black positioned to win his party’s nomination.“As an American, I can obviously salute the extraordinary barriers that have been broken already in this election cycle. But he has gone far enough this year because, ultimately, this election is not going to be about something symbolic, it [will] be about something substantive.” said Huckabee.
He compared the Obama surge to the new-car shopping experience. “When you got to the showroom, the car is really appealing; it’s got that new car smell and all the bells and whistles. But then you’ve got to decide, can I afford the payments? I think when people start looking at what Obama is saying, the very last thing they need in this tough economy is more tax burden on their families and their future.”
Question of the day: Will the new-car smell wear off before or after Democrats sign the contract and drive it out of the showroom? I’m betting that Boren is the first in a line of blue dog Democrats who know the full tab to be paid for picking the hybrid version of a shiny new McGovern-mobile. Promises 40 miles per gallon, delivers 12. And when the costs of buying off all the constituencies who assembled the Obama ride are factored in, working Americans will suffer an extreme case of sticker shock..





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Comments
By Copyleft
June 11, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this
Ahh yes, the “costs” of a sane, liberal President—the perpetual hand-wringing solicitous worry that right-wingers spout every election season.
Won’t work this time, Wooten. Wanna know why? Two words:
IRAQ.
TRILLION.
I think we’re done here.
By Eric
June 11, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this
Once agian the old bitter white man is thinking wrong. God help us all if McKlan is elected president. Billions of American dollars will go to Iraq to keep the war of treason and deceit going on for many more years. The defenses here on American soil will be further depleted and 911 will happen again. Thank you Wooten for help making American lives worth nothing.
By Blake
June 11, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
To answer your question Mr. Wooten… You can’t afford not to get behind Obama.
By The good side
June 11, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
This is the best you can come up with?
Funny, so called conservatives are now worried about the economy.
Lets see keep corporate taxes low but they are still firing and laying people off. But the CEO stil gets paid! Hmmm!
Iraq who bomb the twin towers cost costs us a trillion but we still do not have Bin Laden!
A Replubican president,Congress and House for 6 years did not pass any bills to become energy independent so let’snow blame the other party.
Conservative we care about abortions and Guns! So do I but I want to teach prevention and not relie upon people to make the right decision.
This righ left talk is garbage it time to let someone else take the mantle.
Tax cuts are not helping right now! Are they companies are running for the border and getting rid of people everyday.
We should only provide the small businesses with a break they are the real backbone of this country.
No Mcsain wants to support them! He should have voted bigger tax incentives for them when he had the chance!
By Kim
June 11, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
It’s the same old spill from liberal bloggers. They are blinded to the facts. Obama is not a reliable candidate. He has not even finished his term at present. Do you think if there were a higher office he would quit the presidency to run for it? There is not a higher office in America. Maybe they do agree with his voting record, as short as it is. To associate MCcain with the klan is completely ignorant on their behalf. His record shows bipartisan efforts. Obama’s does not. McCain’s past shows strong leadership and reform. Obama’s does not. Of course it does not matter to the leftist. They will continue to attack based on their biased,bigotted forum.
By It's almost over
June 11, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
“They will continue to attack based on their biased,bigotted forum.”
You’ve just described Wooten!!
By Mike
June 11, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
Calling Obama “the most liberal senator” is an election year red herring, The National Journal “determined” this only after carefully and purposely picking & choosing which votes they wanted to include just like they did on 2004 with Kerry. What hurts your cause more is that the flip flopping “maverick” McSame has voted with Bush 95% of the time.
By thogwummpy
June 11, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
Ah…Obama supporters and Saddam supporters clearly identifying themselves as one and the same! You hate the Iraq war because liars like Bookman and Cynthia Tucker shaped it for you. Now…what again happened to all those chemical weapon stockpiles that UN inspectors photographed before leaving Iraq in 1998; that Saddam failed to account for, and the UNMOVIC Executive Director Dimitri Perricos maintains to this day are STILL missing? Hmmmmm… See, if activists in journalist’s clothing are allowed to spin and omit—-you won’t have a clue about what’s really true until historians correct your impressions. Yeah, we know a President Obama (who’s pledged to get rid of America’s nuclear arsenal—-you can look that up on YouTube while you frisk the above!) wouldn’t have stopped Saddam from shooting down our aircraft or supporting Islamic terrorists. You Lefties are reliably seduced…and that’s what snake oil Pied Pipers like Obama always rely upon. Obamunists—-you give zero war blame to Saddam, but you’re about as foolish as it comes.
By Spare me
June 11, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this
Ahh yes, Copyleft… The brilliant hindsight vision of a typical arrogant Democrat. Got to love the party that offers plenty of criticism, but who’s best solution is the word “change”, a candidate with 2-years experience (and fewer legitimate votes to show for it), endorsements by Oprah Winfrey and the rest of the Hollywood geniuses, and a bowl full of hypocrisy.
No true fiscal and economic conservative is going to sit and argue with you about George Bush’s tenure as President as being dissapointing, nor will we say the war in Iraq and the trillion dollar bill are good for this country (particularly with the lack of financial accountability required of Iraq given their increasing wealth per oil prices). But one thing we can all agree on is that your song is a sad and tired one. George Bush won’t be President forever, and pretty soon (if Obama) is elected, Democrat’s will have to start finding new ways to represent themselves beyond slogans like “tax the rich” and “new politics”. We have all seen what happened when Democrats took over the House (birds chirping……). So until you come up with something better than what you have shown thus far, I’d say this is far from done.
By Cotton-Eyed Joe
June 11, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
heh, heh…whatever. Y’all tell yourselves whatever fairy tales from the twentieth century you need to in order to feel better for the next five months. Some folks, heavens, they may even try whispering the N-word. Won’t help. Times is now, ain’t like they used to be. I remember.
The real “common-sense” conservatives in the GOP—not that there ever were that many—are quietly tying down everything that they can before the wave hits, and muttering to each other about what exactly is wrong with McSame’s campaign; the Congress has been given up as lost.
By Partisan Crap
June 11, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
And I take it there is no conservative bigotry? Blocking tax breaks that would stimulate research and development of alternative fuels? Isn’t this adminstration supposedly trying to find methods to “lower the dependence on foreign oil”? Right…mindless drivel to feed to masses. Its pathetic. While a certain percentage truly run the country, the majority wont see REAL CHANGE because divide and conquer of the entire country is evident with this partisan crap.
By Jan Oberholzer
June 11, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this
After 8 years of Bush’s spending like a drunken sailor on shore leave. Some sanity in Washington would be welcome.
By tom ga hunter
June 11, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this
If McCain is elected president will the big government, big spend, big borrow wing of the Republican party follow him or will it be the Saxby Chambliss farm bill all over again. We need to get fiscan conservatives into congress or the president doesn’t matter.. Bob Barr=NONE OF THE ABOVE,, less bad than the other 2.
By Jan Oberholzer
June 11, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
After 8 years of Bush’s spending like a drunken sailor on shore leave. Some sanity in Washington would be welcome.
By pan
June 11, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this
dude, you are a bit of a noob ~ What we can’t afford is even 1 more year of a totally destructive “re-bush” administration When bush took power oil was $32 a barrel, now its managed to top 140 gas was $1.50, we all know it crazy stupid now. The money that is wasted daily in Iraq could pay for YEARS and YEARS of anyone doing ANYTHING else at this point. Obama has some sense that it is time to change the country. Personally, I would have rather seen Hillary win, but Obama has great leadership too Personally, I wouldn’t even consider returning to USA until these very stupid and destructive republicans are OUT of power bring on November
By Brett
June 11, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
Obama isn’t liberal he is socialist.
By tom ga hunter
June 11, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
If McCain is elected president will the big government, big spend, big borrow wing of the Republican party follow him or will it be the Saxby Chambliss farm bill all over again. We need to get fiscal conservatives into congress or the president doesn’t matter.. Bob Barr=NONE OF THE ABOVE,, less bad than the other 2.
By Be fair
June 11, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
You are right about 6 years of republican economy, was all-great; it changed when the democrats took over in 2006. That’s the begging of downturn. Regarding Obama and his tax increase policies, are bad for my packets and for the economy. All the liberal welfare programs end up hurting the one that they meant to help, the poor. There is no need to point out his ideas of shaking hands with world’s tyrants.
By Steven Daedalus
June 11, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
Yeah, what we need is another Bush style conservative with all the success he has had, face it, any thing shy of a dead rat will be better.
By pan
June 11, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
dude, you are a bit of a noob ~ What we can’t afford is even 1 more year of a totally destructive “re-bush” administration When bush took power oil was $32 a barrel, now its managed to top 140 gas was $1.50, we all know it crazy stupid now. The money that is wasted daily in Iraq could pay for YEARS and YEARS of anyone doing ANYTHING else at this point. Obama has some sense that it is time to change the country. Personally, I would have rather seen Hillary win, but Obama has great leadership too Personally, I wouldn’t even consider returning to USA until these very stupid and destructive republicans are OUT of power bring on November
By Andrew Jones
June 11, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
Spelling: Insticts ??
By Bill Badman
June 11, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
We will not elect an OBAMA even with all the whine and pulling of hair.
Ms. Clinton won the popular vote (Dem) and still lost.
Elect a Black “Racist”? No, Nein! Obama threw his White Grandmother under the wheels of his Grand Ride for president and didn’t even look back!
We can wait for another Person Of Color to represent the good ole U. S. OF A. How About C. Rice for example. A woman and a person of color. Hmmm…
By Common Sense
June 11, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
america needs Reagan ideas-close the borders, kick out the illegals, keep taxes low, drill off shore, in vast waste lands and offer tax incentives to companies that turn coal into clean buring fuel in 5 yrs or less. obama will make slaves of all of us under his church’s doctrine. He will embrace Muslimism and turn our healthcare into a french system. Under him, Jimmy Carter will look like a genius and most of us will flee to Canada since we will only have pocket change left after paying higher taxes and food costs. This is wealth distribution-the wealthy white giving to the poor blacks. All of our money will be given to Africa under obama. Americans need to get off the Kool Aid and see this man for what he is-a Liar! He is giving the same speeches as Hitler and look where that got 6 million+ people!. change? yes, obama will change the roles from 1863! We need an American in the White House like Reagan who will keep taxes low, will drill here, immediately and keep fuel prices low. Taxocrats are wooried about the tourist industry-that industry is dead since no one can afford to drive there! We need an American in the White House, not an anti American, not an African, and certainly not a Muslim who has a wife with a chop on her shoulder with a mantra of reparations for all.
We need to defeat Muslim/islamic Terrorism and NO Paleterrorist state. If the Arabs want to give up their land to these clowns, fine. Israel should not have to go from the size of NJ to Connecticut to appease some mad bombers. We need St. Ronald Reagan to appear and put Ahmad dinner Jacket in the same place as Khadiaffy! Vote No Obamanation of Taxes.
By Jeff
June 11, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
It’s amazing how stupid you Obama fools are. I don’t doubt that he will get elected because eveyone is so unhappy with Bush and republicans right now, but I guarantee 2 years down the road you will be regretting it.
By Bill Badman
June 11, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
We will not elect an OBAMA even with all the whine and pulling of hair.
Ms. Clinton won the popular vote (Dem) and still lost.
Elect a Black “Racist”? No, Nein! Obama threw his White Grandmother under the wheels of his Grand Ride for president and didn’t even look back!
We can wait for another Person Of Color to represent the good ole U. S. OF A. How About C. Rice for example. A woman and a person of color. Hmmm…
By lava
June 11, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
Mcain needs to show me he can zip up his pants 1st before i vote for him.
By trh
June 11, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
if mccain were smart hillary would be his vice president.
By eric
June 11, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
“McKlan”… wow that is a lot of rhetoric, considering that Mr. Wooten only spoke of political beliefs - not curtural ones. Take a step back there gang - you - are what is wrong with politics, not Obama, or even McCain.
By Bill Badman
June 11, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
We will not elect an OBAMA even with all the whine and pulling of hair.
Ms. Clinton won the popular vote (Dem) and still lost.
Elect a Black “Racist”? No, Nein! Obama threw his White Grandmother under the wheels of his Grand Ride for president and didn’t even look back!
We can wait for another Person Of Color to represent the good ole U. S. OF A. How About C. Rice for example. A woman and a person of color. Hmmm…
By Indiana Pearl
June 11, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
The Republicans and conservative Dems are on the Titanic. Will they take their chances with a lifeboat or stay on a sinking ship? Boren is not supporting Obama because he wants to get re-elected in a conservative district, not because he loves McBush.
January 20th, 2009 —- Bush’s —- and the Repubs last day …
By Chuck
June 11, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
Ah, with age comes wisdom. Boren’s father,David Boren, former Oklahoma Governor, U.S. Senator and current University of Oklahoma President announced in April his support for Obama.
I’d say that trumps the one term House of Representatives Dan Boren who is running for re-election in a conservative, largely rural disrict.
By Marge
June 11, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
Obama is a socialist who wants to bankrupt working people who are productive and give handouts to the worthless to continue the democratic mantra. Unfortunately, McCain is also a loser. We are tired of voting for the lesser of two evils…both are pretty sad candidates to represent mainstream America. Yes, Obama is so inexperienced and a true leftist. Pandering to his new icon status as public speaker extraordinaire and historical barrier breaker just wont cut it.
By Rich
June 11, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
If we don’t win the war on terror, the rest is moot. So unless Barack comes up with a better plan than asking nicely for the terrorists to go away, John McCain will be the next President.
By JOE BENTO COL US ARMY RET
June 11, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
We are supposed to take the word of a lucky sperm congressman? Maybe we can listen to his dad or gradpa who did the heavy lifting for junior to get his job in the first place. He uses Obama’s name to get into the news cycle for a day and someone is supposed to care. shoddy journalism. Obama walks the walk and is the real deal and that has the neo-cons shorts in a knot.
Barack and Roll in 2008!
By Larry
June 11, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
After Obama just returned from his little Bilderberg rendevous in Chantilly we can be assured he will follow through with their plans to tax us into a third world country. Obama is owned and if given the election he will have to start paybacks with American taxpayer dollars. Wanna see some foreclosure rates really sky rocket?
By Sean
June 11, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
It seems to me that all you political folk spend the majority of your time blaming things on the opposite party. “Oh, those damned liberals/conservatives.” You’re like an old married couple stuck in stalemated bickering, only on a much larger and more life-or-death scale.
I truly believe Mr. Obama is going to change that. God help me if I’m wrong, but I’m putting my faith behind my vote.
I’m a third generation Republican, and a fiscal conservative, by the way.
By Jessica
June 11, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
But what price will working Americans and the middle class pay for the permanent tax cuts to the wealthiest of our society that McCain supports?
By Get Real
June 11, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
AJC Editorial Board, please buy this guy Wooten out of his contract and send him out to pasture. Is that all you can come up with? The GOP blocking any kind of tax on the record profits oil companies are making, and all you can say is “Obama is a factory-issue leftist who is as partisan as they come in Washington?” Well at least he ain’t Bush, and with McLame voting with Bush 95% of the time I believe that also makes him El Busto…. Just wait until you “conservatives” get beat over the head about the economy non-stop. You can write and ‘demonize’ Obama all you want, but in the last two months you have yet to offer any concrete plans on how Republicans can turn things around. Keep Bush’s tax cuts is all McCain has.
You’re becoming part of the problem Wootie. Your time has passed, a younger generation doesn’t want to hear the bs you’re saying. After 7 1/2 years of Bush and 6 years of a Republican-led congress, I believe anyway would say a ‘hybrid version of a shiny new McGovern-mobile’ is better than what we’ve had. What is the GOP platform? What do you all stand for besides reducing taxes for corporations and more wars? Please tell me that first before you ‘demonize’ the opposition. You’re not giving anyone a reason to vote for the GOP, only a reason not to vote for the Dems. Retire please!
By ron
June 11, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
Good morning Jim,I don’t trust Barak Obama and if that’s demonizing him,so be it.He comes out of the snakepit that is Chicago politics.He is a different kind of Democrat than the ones I’m used to.He represents the elite Democrat,not the working class man.He represents Barbara Streisand and Sean Penn and probably our favorite girl,Hanoi Jane.He represents Ted Kennedy,and Jimmy Carter.He certainly couldn’t speak for Jack or Bobby Kennedy.Not the same class.Obama is not my cup of tea by a long shot.I will not be able to afford the payments on his ride,that’s for sure.I barely survived Bush’s ride.
By Taxpayer
June 11, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
Thanks, Jim. Your comments today were quite amusing. I especially enjoyed the clever way you avoided mentioning John McCain — there, I said it, JOHN McCAIN — while talking about Obama and a vice-presidential candidate for JOHN McCAIN. Your injection of Huckabee, for the benefit of the evangelical voters that yearn to see him in office, without actually supporting him either really took some effort, I’m sure.
I also really enjoyed some of those little jabs you managed to slip in such as:
While Obama talks about reaching across the aisle and fashioning a new Washington, “unfortunately his record does not reflect working in a bipartisan fashion.”
Who else do we know that was actually revered for his ability to reach across the aisles? Hmmmmm, could that be George Bush.
And this one:
But…he has gone far enough this year because, ultimately, this election is not going to be about something symbolic, it [will] be about something substantive.” said Huckabee.
Who was that preacher that used the symbolism in the TV ads, kimosabe? I’ve seen the light, Jim, and what do you know — it’s in the shape of a cross.
But, this one might well be the icing on the cake:
And when the costs of buying off all the constituencies who assembled the Obama ride are factored in, working Americans will suffer an extreme case of sticker shock..
Sticker shock, you say. I challenge you to show me how adding on the cost of the Wars on top of the Bush-approved drug plan and his inability to follow through on his promise to deal with the looming Social Security and Medicare funding crisis and his approval of a tax prebate, etc., does not add up to the most outrageous sticker shock we have ever had to face. I guess the width of that aisle was just too much of a stretch for this president. Of course, that’s just for starters. I could go on for days talking about this administration’s contribution to an economy that is in a “soft patch”. Isn’t that what Bush calls it? Enough of that though. I’ve got a garden to tend to.
By Marge
June 11, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
Obama is a socialist who wants to bankrupt working people who are productive and give handouts to the worthless to continue the democratic mantra. Unfortunately, McCain is also a loser. We are tired of voting for the lesser of two evils…both are pretty sad candidates to represent mainstream America. Yes, Obama is so inexperienced and a true leftist. Pandering to his new icon status as public speaker extraordinaire and historical barrier breaker just wont cut it.
By Obamawho
June 11, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
Obama has no resume, zero substantive experience, limited experience in state government with no accomplishments, less than a full term in the US Senate with the most liberal record - no cross party experience, no substantial legislation.
Foolish Democrats, you had a very strong candidate - with a proven record that you decided not to go with because Obama is a good orator.
By JOE BENTO COL US ARMY RET
June 11, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
We are supposed to take the word of a lucky sperm congressman? Maybe we can listen to his dad or gradpa who did the heavy lifting for junior to get his job in the first place. He uses Obama’s name to get into the news cycle for a day and someone is supposed to care. shoddy journalism. Obama walks the walk and is the real deal and that has the neo-cons shorts in a knot.
Barack and Roll in 2008!
By Guess where
June 11, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
guess where all the white taxocrats will be if Obama gets elected? Living in their yachts or switzerland!
By BFKaJ
June 11, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. I love the morning essay – well done, Mr. Wooten - as it invites me to ridicule both Mike Huckabee and Barack Obama, simultaneously. “Demonize” is a funny choice of terms for an evangelical/preacher who should know the meaning of the term. “Disparage” would have been an intelligent choice for Rev. Huckabee. I think we have a gentlemen’s agreement to avoid “denigrate” for this election cycle.
I think the plain language of the good Arkansan says that calling Hussein a “leftist” inserts an evil spirit into the Chicagoan. The suggestion of “insertion” is the misuse of the language. Here is where I run into trouble with the guv. From his uncharacteristically sparse language, I cannot determine what he wishes to convey. Perhaps he suggests that the democrat nominee already possesses a demon, and it is wrong to thereafter demonize him – don’t want to overload him with demons. Alternatively, he may be using the colloquial expression, meaning “falsely attributing demons to an innocent spirit.”
Of course, all of good character agree that leftism is an evil spirit floating throughout the land, normally marked by derangement and epithets, and a compulsion to misappropriate the worldly goods of others. The real question is whether any speaker who refers to Hussein as a “leftist” is truthful in the attribution. I have previously affirmed that truth. Anyone who voted against both Roberts and Alito is a leftist, and thus bears the mark of Satan.
By Mike
June 11, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
You’re a MORON!!! The most liberal senator is easily Russ Feingold. Get a clue.
By joe`
June 11, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
The black community only cares about skin color. If you don’t believe it, just come to Clayton County.
By Stratus
June 11, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
Personally, I wanted Hillary to get the nomination and then I would’ve voted for her for President, because then I wouldn’t feel so bad about getting screwed by the Government. At least it would be facing you and not behind you.
By Rajendra Ram
June 11, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
It amazes me that this guy Boren thrown all his support for Hillary, who is for socialized medicine, believes in socialism, and is more communist oriented, is saying now that he is a COSERVATIVE..INCREDILE!!! an excuse not to vote for a blackman. This is so typical of the hypocracy of another white man, who wants to find a way out not to support Barack.RCISM is a BIg factor in this race. You are right Boren told the truth, but Clinton’s policies were quite similar to Obama…This is what you call being racist. It is tough for Boren to vote for a blackman. His conscience tells him “why should I vote black against a white…..
By John Doe
June 11, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
I don’t trust any of the people “representing” us in Washington to actually represent us. They go to the highest bidder in order to keep power. I vote on both sides. My concern is that these jerks will continue to pile up the national debt and by the time my kids (6 year old twins) are my age 50% of the federal budget will go to paying for the debt. Guess what, we’re going to have to pay more in taxes and/or reduce spending A LOT.
By Peter
June 11, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
Jim you are a Funny guy……
Can you say Right Wing Communist……that might describe Bush, and his Trillion dollar mess in Iraq.
Where is the reaching across the isle to help the Katrina victims?
Are there any trailers that WON’T get little kids SICK?
Where is the “Conservative” in the deficit?
The old car we have get zero GAS mileage, and the Price of OIL is sky High…..
But hey as an OIL family, the BUSH folks love it!
By Jan
June 11, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Are none of the liberals caapable of remembering when the economy started the downward slide? Things were rolling along at a nice clip, UNTIL THE IDIOTS IN THIS COUNTRY decided to toss out the Republicans in Congress because they objected to the war in Iraq (which has actually been working very well, but you won’t read about it in the liberal media) and elect DEMOCRAPS. See what a FINE job they have done for the last 2 1/2 years? And these same idiots voting in a DEMOCRAPIC congress now wish to reward this idiocy with a DEMOCRAPIC, SOCIALIST, ELITIST, who has nothing to offer but tainted rhetoric. Brilliant! The only salvation for this country and our economy is to very quickly dispense with Obama. Let him continue his “do nothing” plans in Chicago with his anti-American, anti-white, anti-jew, anti-every other minority cohorts, but GET RID OF HIM NOW. Remember, Hitler wanted to bring change to Germany, and he did. Let the Americans show more individual ability to think than the Germans did. We are still able to get rid of mob frenzied lunatics with radical muslim leanings, just by voting. Do so in November, by voting for true Americans who still believe in the Constitution, the Pledge of Allegiance, and our military honor, and who have ALWAYS been proud of our country.
By be fair
June 11, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Blaming Bush for oil prices is idiotic. You should investigate who is blocking new drillings in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico (for the past 2o years), and the construction of new refineries. Then you know who is responsible for what you pay at the pump. Depending on Arabs for oil is bad politics just like increasing the minimum wage to enhance stupidity and decrease educational strive.
By be fair
June 11, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
Blaming Bush for oil prices is idiotic. You should investigate who is blocking new drillings in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico (for the past 2o years), and the construction of new refineries. Then you know who is responsible for what you pay at the pump. Depending on Arabs for oil is bad politics just like increasing the minimum wage to enhance stupidity and decrease educational strive.
By be fair
June 11, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
Blaming Bush for oil prices is idiotic. You should investigate who is blocking new drillings in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico (for the past 2o years), and the construction of new refineries. Then you know who is responsible for what you pay at the pump. Depending on Arabs for oil is bad politics just like increasing the minimum wage to enhance stupidity and decrease educational strive.
By Barack Hussein Obama
June 11, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
President Barack Hussein Obama:
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036
By Tropunlim
June 11, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
All other comments aside- McCain, in order to win the election, has to have more people show up for him on election day than does Obama. Obama’s people are fired up and ready to go. McCain’s people, while trying to put a happy face on it, are taking it one day at a time- praying to find a weakness. Rush Limbaugh doesn’t even like McCain. Republicans, looks like you have some hard work to do between now and the election.
By Bill Badman
June 11, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
We will not elect an OBAMA even with all the whine and pulling of hair.
Ms. Clinton won the popular vote (Dem) and still lost.
Elect a Black “Racist”? No, Nein! Obama threw his White Grandmother under the wheels of his Grand Ride for president and didn’t even look back!
We can wait for another Person Of Color to represent the good ole U. S. OF A. How About C. Rice for example. A woman and a person of color. Hmmm…
By Haleema
June 11, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
I am really irritated when people refer to Obama as breaking down barriers. Obama’s Father is Kenyan and all the Presidents in Kenya since the end of colonialism have been black. Obama’s mother is white and all of the President’s of the United States have been white. Obama is not breaking any barriers for descendants of “African slaves” especailly when Africans participated in sending black slaves to the United States. Obama’s parents did not participate in the civil rights movement. Obama is a mixture of the oppressive forces that created slavery in the first place. Descendants of black slaves will never have justice.
By Jordan
June 11, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
“Is it “demonizing” Barack Obama to point out that he’s “the most liberal senator” in Congress?”
I would consider spreading lies about someone with the intent of causing fear in people who don’t know any better to be “demonizing” so, yes.
There are many Senators more “liberal” than Obama. Senator Bernie Sanders comes to mind. Heck, he outright describes himself as a “Socialist”.
It’s funny how whenever there’s a Democratic senator running for President the National Journal is right there to call them “Most Liberal”… What… Obama was able to take over from Kerry in just a few years? (Yes, Kerry was “most liberal” just 4 years ago.)
By A Historical Reference
June 11, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
Two things even though they are not mentions very often.
Obama want to meet unconditionaly with our adversaries to have diplomatic talks. Any student of history knows that this only leads to conflict with the “diplomatic” side having to fight from a position much weaker than what they started out with. A prime example is Neville Chamberlain (if you do not know who he is smack your world history teacher) he thought he was doing the right thing by making concessions to Hitler and we know what that led to.
Hillary Clinton said it best herself when she said that if the phone rings in the White House at 3am she would rather have McCain answering that call than Obama. I am sorry but the man just does not have what it takes. (On a side note I wonder how long it will take for the GOP to find that sound bite and start running it as thier own ad?)
By Carl Rowe
June 11, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
Tired, tired old right comments showing they have nothing to say. The Republicans have been running up enormous debt during Reagan and Bush years and have the nerve to talk about the “expense” of Obama. Americans want stuff but don’t want to pay. Republicans oblige with debt that will cripple us for decades. Remember, the last balanced budget came from a Democrat.
By Walter
June 11, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
Rajendra Ram, it is very apparent that racism is indeed alive and well. For most of the American voters supporting the Obamatrain, it has been rather skewed towards those of ethnicity and younger college kids, but to try and demand that a person vote for Obama or even suggest that a person is racist because they don’t vote for Obama is ridiculous. I’m not voting Obama because I do not like his politics. He is an empty suit making empty promises and is about to force me to pay higher taxes to support warlord ridden countries. So if you like call me racist, call me a klansman, call me an aryan or whatever other white supremacist group you can think of because it makes you feel better. My wife, who is ethnic, despises Obama and says he is fake, my neighbors, most of ethnicity, say he is a false prophet and will lead America to despair. So yeah we’re all racists.
By rg
June 11, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
Sean, I like the point you’ve made here. Reading through these comments, it seems like we spend more time attacking each other with semantics and rhetoric than we do discussing the real issues. For whatever it is worth, I believe that both Obama and McCain are basically decent, honest guys who are trying to make this a better country. I might not agree with one or both of them on any given issue, but that doesn’t need to take away my respect for them as people. Folks, please, “McKlan”? “Obamanation”? We’re all better than this. Let’s talk about the change you want to see, then go look for the candidate (not the party) who has demonstrated the character and convictions to make that change. If you can look past the party label and do that, I admire you.
By Rob
June 11, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
We elected Bush because Kerry would increase the taxes and we would be worse off. What happened? We have tax breaks but dollar is not worth, gas is more than $4 a gallon and unemployment is 5.5%. No need to mention the deficit and debt we have. On top of this, you are still talking about democrats increasing the taxes like a broken record. It is you Republicans mess and only a Democrat can clean this mess. 4 more years of same policies will make us even worse.
By Redneck Convert
June 11, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
Well, my buddy Jim Earl got this president race about right. He says we can’t afford to change alot now. If we do then the profits all the big income guys got from the tax cuts won’t start trickling down and the rest of us won’t get nothing. Its only been 7 years and we need to give old man McCain time to Stay the Course so the rest of us start getting something. It takes alot of time when it comes to guvmint.
Another thing Jim Earl says. We need to keep whacking at welfare programs till there ain’t nothing but defense spending left. We don’t need to be paying for a bunch of Those People to get doctoring with our taxes and live longer. Just keep things the way they are. Most of us kind of like our medical insurance and we sure don’t need to be bringing in 47 million people to it and clogging up the waiting rooms. If God had of meant for all Those People to have health insurance He would of let them be borned with policys in their little hands. Let them die off the way God intended.
And I come up with this one. We can’t start electing one of Those People as President. If we do then Those People will get plumb out of control. Its got so you can’t even do a little tweaking and make them show Photo ID without them kicking up a bunch of sand. We all might of knowed what would happen when Congress passed those Civil Rights. We were going along pretty good till then. We had Jim Crow and other things to keep them in their place.
Old man McCain is as White as they come. He’s so White his skin keeps turning into cancer from the sun. So lets make sure we keep a White man in the White House. That’s why they named it the White House. Anyhow, we don’t have to say we don’t want one of Those People in the White House. We can use other ways of saying it, like “I ain’t a racist but this guy is too librul.” Or “Lets wait a few decades till one of Those People comes out thinking just like us.”
Have a good day everybody. Don’t forget to buy plenty of beer so I can keep my job. Its only Wednesday but its never too late to stock up for the weekend.
Oh, almost forgot. This Ron asked me how the missus is. She’s fine but a little cranky. She has fell off to 325 pounds and she gets kind of ornery when she’s that skinny. Guess I’ll take her to Ryans so she can bulk up and get in a good mood.
By ArchiesBoy
June 11, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
In Wooton’s case, being right is being wrong. Wooton’s nonsense proposes staying to the right when it was the right that got us into all the trouble we’ve had for the last eight years. Anyone from the right crowing about staying right in light of the egregious calamities the right has brought is us a fool. And of course, anything just slightly to the left of right is to a rightie extremism. I think going to the left is the specific antidote right now
By Robert Campbell
June 11, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
All you guys keep talking about the “billions” spent in Iraq. You might want to open your supposedly already open minds to the fact that we have spent trillions on social programs to support generation upon generation to what end. An entire segment of entitlement minded, handout dependent, “can get out of the way of a hurricane til the bus picks us” up crowd. The country does not need a President who will not only burden business with more taxes, but take those taxes and give them to the biggest drain on the economy - welfare recipients.
By C Brents
June 11, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
Wow! A lone, sane voice in the Atlanta paper? Well at least socialism has one mind willing to say huge government ideas take massive taxation.
By commonfreakingsense
June 11, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
It still amazes me how ignorant the conservatives really are. It’s almost embarassing! I can now see the reason we are ranked 29th in the world in education. A group of people that are so easily swayed by fear and stupidity. Can you really believe that we are in such great shape right now with Bush in office? Can so many millions of republican voters be that stupid? It gives me the chills just thinking about it! For seven years I have watched the rich get richer and the income of middle class go down the drain. There is a word called “greed” and it has been here since man became to exist. When you give a milliion to one man, he keeps it. When you give a million to many, they spend it and invest it more widely. Common sense! A six year old can figure this out. I have a feeling that if I brought a dozen apples and explained it with them “maybe” most republican voters “might” figure it out. But, maybe not! I can only say this, we need to invest in education so that so many of the republican voters can see through the lies they are told and make our politicians more reliable and honest.
By T
June 11, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
sorry, you liberal tweaks…..you simply cannot hide or avoid the FACT that B.O. is the MOST liberal presidental candidate since McGovern.
Who is/was McGovern you ask? Well he was a nice enough, well-meaning (in the Jimmy Carter sense of the word)geek from South Dakota whose mission in life was, and still is, to feed the world…good luck with that one..but at least he DID have more experience than B.O.
Long story short——he crashed and burned in the GE because Americans look for a leader in a President, not a bleeding heart.
The sad thing is, America may, through its ADD culture and failure to see the big picture, actually chose this guy. Talk about grasping at straws. Talk about jumping from the pan into the fire. Could you find anyone less experienced,more liberal, or more same old/leftwing/partisan/political machine than this guy?? Amazing stuff.
By Dutchman
June 11, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
You lefties are all alike.
Let us fix the economy by taxing everyone more. Let us raise taxes on the big corporations. Let us raise taxes on people who have savings and investments. It isn’t their money anyway.
Who will pay for the “free” college education BHO is calling for? Who will pay for the “free” health care? Who will be left to pay all those taxes when all of our jobs are shipped off shore because it is too expensive to own a business here?
Right, let us let a socialist be President or maybe Premier is a better term.
If you are over 40 and still a liberal, it is time to get a job.
By Tonia
June 11, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
I see the hysterical Obama supporters are all in a lather here. Calm down people. Just because someone dares to disagree with Obama does not make them a racist. That old tired line is worn out. Discussing the pros and cons of a candidate’s proposed policies is part of the political process. You need to come up with a better retort in support of your candidate than, “anyone who disagrees is racist.”
By Tedro
June 11, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
BUSH FAM = OIL OIL = MIDDLE EAST MIDDLE EAST = SHADY SHADY = OSAMA FAM OSAMA FAM = 911 911 = PAY BACK PAY BACK TO WHO?
First they kicked us, now they rob us.
But who is they and who robbed who first?
See thru the illusions people.
By ericmiami
June 11, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
Redneck Convert, you are number one. I’m the bitter old white guy, voting for Obama.
By Robert Campbell
June 11, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
All you guys keep talking about the “billions” spent in Iraq. You might want to open your supposedly already open minds to the fact that we have spent trillions on social programs to support generation upon generation to what end; an entire segment of entitlement minded, handout dependent, “can’t get out of the way of a hurricane til the bus picks us” up crowd. The country does not need a President who will not only burden business with yet more taxes, but take those taxes and give them to the biggest drain on the nation & economy - welfare recipients. Label it racist if you want, however, I am a Native American.
By Robert Campbell
June 11, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
All you guys keep talking about the “billions” spent in Iraq. You might want to open your supposedly already open minds to the fact that we have spent trillions on social programs to support generation upon generation to what end; an entire segment of entitlement minded, handout dependent, “can’t get out of the way of a hurricane til the bus picks us” up crowd. The country does not need a President who will not only burden business with yet more taxes, but take those taxes and give them to the biggest drain on the nation & economy - welfare recipients. Label it racist if you want, however, I am a Native American.
By Token Gringo
June 11, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The first guy to comment used “sane” and “liberal” to refer to one subject matter. These two terms cannot be used together to describe one individual. Liberals are not sane by definition.
By Registered Voter
June 11, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
Wake up, people.
The upcoming election is about more than a Presidential race.
If you really want change in Washington then each and every one of you are going to have to register to vote, get down to the polls and vote out ALL of the greedy and lazy fat-cats in Washington.
Only by replacing ALL of the Representatives and ALL of the Senators do the American people have a chance at real change.
Anything else will only result in more of the same insults to the American people that we have suffered through for the past 44 years.
Good luck and may the best people win this time around.
By Travis
June 11, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
Obamas tax plan calls for a tax decrease for people who make less than $150,000 and a tax increase for those who make more than $150,000. Those are facts. McCain will continue the Bush administrations tax cuts for the wealthy. I am sick and tired of hearing how the Republican party at present cares for the middle and lower class americans. Republicans in the present administration are not true republicans. Ron Paul is a true republican.
By Whippy
June 11, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
It’s not “demonizing” to call Obama “the most liberal senator”, it’s just incorrect. (C’mon, more liberal than Bernie Sanders? Don’t be inane.)
Funny how any Dem candidate for President automatically becomes “the most liberal”.
By Jason
June 11, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
We could have already completely converted to clean renewable energy with on the shelf technology (solar-hydro, solar-wind, and conventional solar) if we would have spent every dollar that we’ve spent on Iraq on modernizing energy generation. Couple that with electric cars and we would be completely energy dependent instead of embroiled in a quagmire that will inevitably end in ethnic partition.
Saying that the Obama ride intails unpredicted, hidden costs ignores the bottom line on the invoice on the “bill of goods” that McCain is selling. 100 years of war in Iraq, a draft to man that operation, and the taxation of your job provided medical benefits.
60% of Americans are uninsured or underinsured. That number is up from 20% in 2004. The fastest growing segment of the American population without adequate health insurance is the middle class and lower upper class. That is because all the lower class are already uninsured. In the richest country in the world, that is shameful. And McCain’s solution is to privatize all of the group plans and tax the crap out of them. That is great for young single healthy folks. For families, middle aged, or those with pre-existing conditions, it is going to be ruinuous. His healthcare policy is as bad as his war policy.
Wake up people. McCain is campaigning for Bush’s third term minus all empty Christian platitudes. Empty in that Bush’s policies certainly don’t “love is neighbor”. Unless Bush only lives next to Halliburton.
By SaltyBob
June 11, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
I truly believe Obama is an islamist. He will destroy our country. He is playing on the people as they are sick of the war. If elected he will bring the troops home. Then he will let us be attacked by Arabs in our cities. Do you really want this guy as Cdr In Chief? Everyone keeps saying that there is only a few Muslims that are terrorist. This is very misleading. There are 1.61 billion Muslims worldwide. If there is only 5-10 % bad guys, or hell only 1% you do the math. I want a warrior as my C in C. As upset as I am with President Bush, I do belive It is through his efforts that we have not had to kick Muslims off our porch. SaltyBob in TN.
By Whippy
June 11, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
It’s not “demonizing” to call Obama “the most liberal senator”, it’s just incorrect. (C’mon, more liberal than Bernie Sanders? Don’t be inane.)
Funny how any Dem candidate for President automatically becomes “the most liberal”.
By Tell the Truth
June 11, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
Marge @ 9:35, you want to call Obama a socialist that wants to bankrupt hard-working Americans, well Bush and the Republicans have bankrupted millions of hard-working Americans. Everyone keeps saying drill in Alaska or off the coasts, well for one theres less than a 20 year supply of oil in Alaska and the oil companies are just going to sell it to China anyway. Don’t tell me the sky is green when I’m looking right at it.
By Thoughts
June 11, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Wow….is all I can about this blog. People are so blinded and brainwashed by the news media. We will overlook the economy and the current state it is in now under Bush policies. We spend hundreds of billions of dollars on the Iraq war…yet we can’t seem to do anything here in this country to assist thousans of businesses that are closing due to high gas prices. Or maybe truckers whose life existence resides in the price of Diesel fuel, which is pushing $5 a gallon. You also speak of Elitist…what makes Obama any more of an “elitist” than McCain? Because he went to Harvard and doesn’t sound like a complete fool when he speaks? Pathetic.
By Steven Krogh
June 11, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
To all you “social conservatives” out there, I have one question:
What kind of character and judgment does a man have that can fool around and then finally divorce his spouse who had been severely injured in a car accident but was recuperating? Then, only a month after the divorce this same man can REMARRY?!
Yep, it’s your guy…Johnny McCain.
So when you right-wingers throw around your name-calling jabs like “fascist”,”liberal”, and “Satan” to define Obama, and explain how his judgment will be poor based on his “friends”, well, I want to remind you of the judgment of the man you are supporting.
And I’m not even touching his Charles Keating scandal.
A healthy discussion regarding the issues is great…but don’t try the old name-calling crap anymore. The American voter has wised up to those nutjob tactics.
I say all this as one of the 40%’ers out there that considers himself Independent and unsure of who he’ll vote for in the fall. But rest assured it certainly won’t be for the party that throws the most insulting names around. That’s the politics of old.
By Michael
June 11, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
Has 8 years of GOP leadership not shown you anything?? You people do not know how to run a country… well.. unless running it into the ground counts.. then you do a great job.
G.O.P. = Government Oppressing People …. Have you not learned, there is nothing you can do to stop the Obama movement… Look around the corner baby… Change is there … and it’s bringing its bff, prosperity ..
By John Doe
June 11, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
I don’t trust any of the people “representing” us in Washington to actually represent us. They go to the highest bidder in order to keep power. I vote on both sides. My concern is that these jerks will continue to pile up the national debt and by the time my kids (6 year old twins) are my age 50% of the federal budget will go to paying for the debt. Guess what, we’re going to have to pay more in taxes and/or reduce spending A LOT.
By Ruben G.
June 11, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
This guy is too funny! He actually pulls out the tired old “most liberal Senator EVER!” cliche, which the Gray Old Party churns out every four years no matter who the nominee is. After 8 years of destruction to the economy, the disastrous and expensive war in Iraq, and scandal after weird scandal (Wide Stance!!), they’re going to have to do better than that.
John McCain has publicly praised George W. Bush over and over again amidst all of these failings. And while out-of-touch and divorced from reality old-media heads like Wooten voice support for more of the same, the rest of us need to question the motives and sanity of these troubling individuals.
By master from shamrock
June 11, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
i’ve said it 7yrs ago bush no nothing about the job of a president he cant run the USA the bush era is gonna be over.but WHO IS REALLY TO BLAME THE VOTERS THATS VOTED FOR BUSH. its SHOWS how Stupid american is .dont get mad @ me for saying that but just look around us.! GAS OIL FOOD WAR ALL COST By the misleading war.iraq was invaded for oil is you didnt kno. this was greed why we cant drill oil because bush family lose money if they do that.war crime! impeachment ! DAMN YOU BUSH YOU COSTED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE LIFES OF LOVE ONES AND JOBS WE NEED TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE FOR THE FAMILYS.
By Michael
June 11, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
Has 8 years of GOP leadership not shown you anything?? You people do not know how to run a country… well.. unless running it into the ground counts.. then you do a great job.
G.O.P. = Government Oppressing People …. Have you not learned, there is nothing you can do to stop the Obama movement… Look around the corner baby… Change is there … and it’s bringing its bff, prosperity ..
By KGC
June 11, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
The Obama campaign will say or do anything to advance their candidate’s cause. Their efforts completely shatter credulity; truth means nothing to them.
By A Historical Reference
June 11, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
The last balanced federal budget was in 1969.
The President at that time was Richard Nixon (1969-1974).
He was not a Democrat.
By Kevin
June 11, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
It is not demonizing Senator Obama to address his lack of a legislative record and the liberal track of what voting record he does have. It is also right to call him out on his statements like the windfall profist tax proposal.
And I am very tired of liberals justifying Sen. Obama that he is not George Bush. We know what we are changing from but tell us what we are changing to.
By hilary stookey
June 11, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Obviously, someone who says a hybrid promises 40 miles per gallon and delivers 12 doesn’t either own one or done proper research on the subject. The comparison was a metaphorical one, but if the basic facts are wrong the carelessness reflects on the rest of the arti