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‘Can I afford the payments’ on Obama ride?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Is it “demonizing” Barack Obama to point out that he’s “the most liberal senator” in Congress? Mike Huckabee, auditioning for the vice presidential nomination on the Republican ticket, says “I think we will make a huge mistake if we try to demonize Barack Obama.” Is identifying him as a liberal demonizing him?
If so, the first big mistake goes to the lone Democrat in Oklahoma’s congressional delegation, Dan Boren, who is the son of former U.S. Senator David Boren. “I think this is an important time for our country,” Boren said in an interview with the Associated Press. “We’re facing a terrible economic downturn. We have high gasoline prices. We have problems in our foreign policy.”
While Obama talks about reaching across the aisle and fashioning a new Washington, “unfortunately his record does not reflect working in a bipartisan fashion.” Boren speaks the truth, of course. Obama is a factory-issue leftist who is as partisan as they come in Washington. There’s a real disconnect between the talk and the walk.
Boren represents a mostly rural district that gave two-thirds of its primary vote to Hillary Clinton. “We’re much more conservative,” he said. “I’ve got to reflect my district. No one means more to me than the people who elected me. I have to listen them… Our nominee is not my first choice.”
Huckabee, who made the comment about Republican activists demonizing Obama while campaigning for a state senator in New Hampshire, does have good political insticts, even though I far prefer a host of others to him as the vice presidential nominee.
“I’m grateful for Barack Obama and his magnificent climb and the journey he has made” as the first black positioned to win his party’s nomination.“As an American, I can obviously salute the extraordinary barriers that have been broken already in this election cycle. But he has gone far enough this year because, ultimately, this election is not going to be about something symbolic, it [will] be about something substantive.” said Huckabee.
He compared the Obama surge to the new-car shopping experience. “When you got to the showroom, the car is really appealing; it’s got that new car smell and all the bells and whistles. But then you’ve got to decide, can I afford the payments? I think when people start looking at what Obama is saying, the very last thing they need in this tough economy is more tax burden on their families and their future.”
Question of the day: Will the new-car smell wear off before or after Democrats sign the contract and drive it out of the showroom? I’m betting that Boren is the first in a line of blue dog Democrats who know the full tab to be paid for picking the hybrid version of a shiny new McGovern-mobile. Promises 40 miles per gallon, delivers 12. And when the costs of buying off all the constituencies who assembled the Obama ride are factored in, working Americans will suffer an extreme case of sticker shock..




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Comments
By Copyleft
June 11, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this
Ahh yes, the “costs” of a sane, liberal President—the perpetual hand-wringing solicitous worry that right-wingers spout every election season.
Won’t work this time, Wooten. Wanna know why? Two words:
IRAQ.
TRILLION.
I think we’re done here.
By Eric
June 11, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this
Once agian the old bitter white man is thinking wrong. God help us all if McKlan is elected president. Billions of American dollars will go to Iraq to keep the war of treason and deceit going on for many more years. The defenses here on American soil will be further depleted and 911 will happen again. Thank you Wooten for help making American lives worth nothing.
By Blake
June 11, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
To answer your question Mr. Wooten… You can’t afford not to get behind Obama.
By The good side
June 11, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
This is the best you can come up with?
Funny, so called conservatives are now worried about the economy.
Lets see keep corporate taxes low but they are still firing and laying people off. But the CEO stil gets paid! Hmmm!
Iraq who bomb the twin towers cost costs us a trillion but we still do not have Bin Laden!
A Replubican president,Congress and House for 6 years did not pass any bills to become energy independent so let’snow blame the other party.
Conservative we care about abortions and Guns! So do I but I want to teach prevention and not relie upon people to make the right decision.
This righ left talk is garbage it time to let someone else take the mantle.
Tax cuts are not helping right now! Are they companies are running for the border and getting rid of people everyday.
We should only provide the small businesses with a break they are the real backbone of this country.
No Mcsain wants to support them! He should have voted bigger tax incentives for them when he had the chance!
By Kim
June 11, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
It’s the same old spill from liberal bloggers. They are blinded to the facts. Obama is not a reliable candidate. He has not even finished his term at present. Do you think if there were a higher office he would quit the presidency to run for it? There is not a higher office in America. Maybe they do agree with his voting record, as short as it is. To associate MCcain with the klan is completely ignorant on their behalf. His record shows bipartisan efforts. Obama’s does not. McCain’s past shows strong leadership and reform. Obama’s does not. Of course it does not matter to the leftist. They will continue to attack based on their biased,bigotted forum.
By It's almost over
June 11, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
“They will continue to attack based on their biased,bigotted forum.”
You’ve just described Wooten!!
By Mike
June 11, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
Calling Obama “the most liberal senator” is an election year red herring, The National Journal “determined” this only after carefully and purposely picking & choosing which votes they wanted to include just like they did on 2004 with Kerry. What hurts your cause more is that the flip flopping “maverick” McSame has voted with Bush 95% of the time.
By thogwummpy
June 11, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
Ah…Obama supporters and Saddam supporters clearly identifying themselves as one and the same! You hate the Iraq war because liars like Bookman and Cynthia Tucker shaped it for you. Now…what again happened to all those chemical weapon stockpiles that UN inspectors photographed before leaving Iraq in 1998; that Saddam failed to account for, and the UNMOVIC Executive Director Dimitri Perricos maintains to this day are STILL missing? Hmmmmm… See, if activists in journalist’s clothing are allowed to spin and omit—-you won’t have a clue about what’s really true until historians correct your impressions. Yeah, we know a President Obama (who’s pledged to get rid of America’s nuclear arsenal—-you can look that up on YouTube while you frisk the above!) wouldn’t have stopped Saddam from shooting down our aircraft or supporting Islamic terrorists. You Lefties are reliably seduced…and that’s what snake oil Pied Pipers like Obama always rely upon. Obamunists—-you give zero war blame to Saddam, but you’re about as foolish as it comes.
By Spare me
June 11, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this
Ahh yes, Copyleft… The brilliant hindsight vision of a typical arrogant Democrat. Got to love the party that offers plenty of criticism, but who’s best solution is the word “change”, a candidate with 2-years experience (and fewer legitimate votes to show for it), endorsements by Oprah Winfrey and the rest of the Hollywood geniuses, and a bowl full of hypocrisy.
No true fiscal and economic conservative is going to sit and argue with you about George Bush’s tenure as President as being dissapointing, nor will we say the war in Iraq and the trillion dollar bill are good for this country (particularly with the lack of financial accountability required of Iraq given their increasing wealth per oil prices). But one thing we can all agree on is that your song is a sad and tired one. George Bush won’t be President forever, and pretty soon (if Obama) is elected, Democrat’s will have to start finding new ways to represent themselves beyond slogans like “tax the rich” and “new politics”. We have all seen what happened when Democrats took over the House (birds chirping……). So until you come up with something better than what you have shown thus far, I’d say this is far from done.
By Cotton-Eyed Joe
June 11, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
heh, heh…whatever. Y’all tell yourselves whatever fairy tales from the twentieth century you need to in order to feel better for the next five months. Some folks, heavens, they may even try whispering the N-word. Won’t help. Times is now, ain’t like they used to be. I remember.
The real “common-sense” conservatives in the GOP—not that there ever were that many—are quietly tying down everything that they can before the wave hits, and muttering to each other about what exactly is wrong with McSame’s campaign; the Congress has been given up as lost.
By Partisan Crap
June 11, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
And I take it there is no conservative bigotry? Blocking tax breaks that would stimulate research and development of alternative fuels? Isn’t this adminstration supposedly trying to find methods to “lower the dependence on foreign oil”? Right…mindless drivel to feed to masses. Its pathetic. While a certain percentage truly run the country, the majority wont see REAL CHANGE because divide and conquer of the entire country is evident with this partisan crap.
By Jan Oberholzer
June 11, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this
After 8 years of Bush’s spending like a drunken sailor on shore leave. Some sanity in Washington would be welcome.
By tom ga hunter
June 11, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this
If McCain is elected president will the big government, big spend, big borrow wing of the Republican party follow him or will it be the Saxby Chambliss farm bill all over again. We need to get fiscan conservatives into congress or the president doesn’t matter.. Bob Barr=NONE OF THE ABOVE,, less bad than the other 2.
By Jan Oberholzer
June 11, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
After 8 years of Bush’s spending like a drunken sailor on shore leave. Some sanity in Washington would be welcome.
By pan
June 11, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this
dude, you are a bit of a noob ~ What we can’t afford is even 1 more year of a totally destructive “re-bush” administration When bush took power oil was $32 a barrel, now its managed to top 140 gas was $1.50, we all know it crazy stupid now. The money that is wasted daily in Iraq could pay for YEARS and YEARS of anyone doing ANYTHING else at this point. Obama has some sense that it is time to change the country. Personally, I would have rather seen Hillary win, but Obama has great leadership too Personally, I wouldn’t even consider returning to USA until these very stupid and destructive republicans are OUT of power bring on November
By Brett
June 11, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
Obama isn’t liberal he is socialist.
By tom ga hunter
June 11, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
If McCain is elected president will the big government, big spend, big borrow wing of the Republican party follow him or will it be the Saxby Chambliss farm bill all over again. We need to get fiscal conservatives into congress or the president doesn’t matter.. Bob Barr=NONE OF THE ABOVE,, less bad than the other 2.
By Be fair
June 11, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
You are right about 6 years of republican economy, was all-great; it changed when the democrats took over in 2006. That’s the begging of downturn. Regarding Obama and his tax increase policies, are bad for my packets and for the economy. All the liberal welfare programs end up hurting the one that they meant to help, the poor. There is no need to point out his ideas of shaking hands with world’s tyrants.
By Steven Daedalus
June 11, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
Yeah, what we need is another Bush style conservative with all the success he has had, face it, any thing shy of a dead rat will be better.
By pan
June 11, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
dude, you are a bit of a noob ~ What we can’t afford is even 1 more year of a totally destructive “re-bush” administration When bush took power oil was $32 a barrel, now its managed to top 140 gas was $1.50, we all know it crazy stupid now. The money that is wasted daily in Iraq could pay for YEARS and YEARS of anyone doing ANYTHING else at this point. Obama has some sense that it is time to change the country. Personally, I would have rather seen Hillary win, but Obama has great leadership too Personally, I wouldn’t even consider returning to USA until these very stupid and destructive republicans are OUT of power bring on November
By Andrew Jones
June 11, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
Spelling: Insticts ??
By Bill Badman
June 11, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
We will not elect an OBAMA even with all the whine and pulling of hair.
Ms. Clinton won the popular vote (Dem) and still lost.
Elect a Black “Racist”? No, Nein! Obama threw his White Grandmother under the wheels of his Grand Ride for president and didn’t even look back!
We can wait for another Person Of Color to represent the good ole U. S. OF A. How About C. Rice for example. A woman and a person of color. Hmmm…
By Common Sense
June 11, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
america needs Reagan ideas-close the borders, kick out the illegals, keep taxes low, drill off shore, in vast waste lands and offer tax incentives to companies that turn coal into clean buring fuel in 5 yrs or less. obama will make slaves of all of us under his church’s doctrine. He will embrace Muslimism and turn our healthcare into a french system. Under him, Jimmy Carter will look like a genius and most of us will flee to Canada since we will only have pocket change left after paying higher taxes and food costs. This is wealth distribution-the wealthy white giving to the poor blacks. All of our money will be given to Africa under obama. Americans need to get off the Kool Aid and see this man for what he is-a Liar! He is giving the same speeches as Hitler and look where that got 6 million+ people!. change? yes, obama will change the roles from 1863! We need an American in the White House like Reagan who will keep taxes low, will drill here, immediately and keep fuel prices low. Taxocrats are wooried about the tourist industry-that industry is dead since no one can afford to drive there! We need an American in the White House, not an anti American, not an African, and certainly not a Muslim who has a wife with a chop on her shoulder with a mantra of reparations for all.
We need to defeat Muslim/islamic Terrorism and NO Paleterrorist state. If the Arabs want to give up their land to these clowns, fine. Israel should not have to go from the size of NJ to Connecticut to appease some mad bombers. We need St. Ronald Reagan to appear and put Ahmad dinner Jacket in the same place as Khadiaffy! Vote No Obamanation of Taxes.
By Jeff
June 11, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
It’s amazing how stupid you Obama fools are. I don’t doubt that he will get elected because eveyone is so unhappy with Bush and republicans right now, but I guarantee 2 years down the road you will be regretting it.
By Bill Badman
June 11, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
We will not elect an OBAMA even with all the whine and pulling of hair.
Ms. Clinton won the popular vote (Dem) and still lost.
Elect a Black “Racist”? No, Nein! Obama threw his White Grandmother under the wheels of his Grand Ride for president and didn’t even look back!
We can wait for another Person Of Color to represent the good ole U. S. OF A. How About C. Rice for example. A woman and a person of color. Hmmm…
By lava
June 11, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
Mcain needs to show me he can zip up his pants 1st before i vote for him.
By trh
June 11, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
if mccain were smart hillary would be his vice president.
By eric
June 11, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
“McKlan”… wow that is a lot of rhetoric, considering that Mr. Wooten only spoke of political beliefs - not curtural ones. Take a step back there gang - you - are what is wrong with politics, not Obama, or even McCain.
By Bill Badman
June 11, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
We will not elect an OBAMA even with all the whine and pulling of hair.
Ms. Clinton won the popular vote (Dem) and still lost.
Elect a Black “Racist”? No, Nein! Obama threw his White Grandmother under the wheels of his Grand Ride for president and didn’t even look back!
We can wait for another Person Of Color to represent the good ole U. S. OF A. How About C. Rice for example. A woman and a person of color. Hmmm…
By Indiana Pearl
June 11, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
The Republicans and conservative Dems are on the Titanic. Will they take their chances with a lifeboat or stay on a sinking ship? Boren is not supporting Obama because he wants to get re-elected in a conservative district, not because he loves McBush.
January 20th, 2009 —- Bush’s —- and the Repubs last day …
By Chuck
June 11, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
Ah, with age comes wisdom. Boren’s father,David Boren, former Oklahoma Governor, U.S. Senator and current University of Oklahoma President announced in April his support for Obama.
I’d say that trumps the one term House of Representatives Dan Boren who is running for re-election in a conservative, largely rural disrict.
By Marge
June 11, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
Obama is a socialist who wants to bankrupt working people who are productive and give handouts to the worthless to continue the democratic mantra. Unfortunately, McCain is also a loser. We are tired of voting for the lesser of two evils…both are pretty sad candidates to represent mainstream America. Yes, Obama is so inexperienced and a true leftist. Pandering to his new icon status as public speaker extraordinaire and historical barrier breaker just wont cut it.
By Rich
June 11, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
If we don’t win the war on terror, the rest is moot. So unless Barack comes up with a better plan than asking nicely for the terrorists to go away, John McCain will be the next President.
By JOE BENTO COL US ARMY RET
June 11, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
We are supposed to take the word of a lucky sperm congressman? Maybe we can listen to his dad or gradpa who did the heavy lifting for junior to get his job in the first place. He uses Obama’s name to get into the news cycle for a day and someone is supposed to care. shoddy journalism. Obama walks the walk and is the real deal and that has the neo-cons shorts in a knot.
Barack and Roll in 2008!
By Larry
June 11, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
After Obama just returned from his little Bilderberg rendevous in Chantilly we can be assured he will follow through with their plans to tax us into a third world country. Obama is owned and if given the election he will have to start paybacks with American taxpayer dollars. Wanna see some foreclosure rates really sky rocket?
By Sean
June 11, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
It seems to me that all you political folk spend the majority of your time blaming things on the opposite party. “Oh, those damned liberals/conservatives.” You’re like an old married couple stuck in stalemated bickering, only on a much larger and more life-or-death scale.
I truly believe Mr. Obama is going to change that. God help me if I’m wrong, but I’m putting my faith behind my vote.
I’m a third generation Republican, and a fiscal conservative, by the way.
By Jessica
June 11, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
But what price will working Americans and the middle class pay for the permanent tax cuts to the wealthiest of our society that McCain supports?
By Get Real
June 11, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
AJC Editorial Board, please buy this guy Wooten out of his contract and send him out to pasture. Is that all you can come up with? The GOP blocking any kind of tax on the record profits oil companies are making, and all you can say is “Obama is a factory-issue leftist who is as partisan as they come in Washington?” Well at least he ain’t Bush, and with McLame voting with Bush 95% of the time I believe that also makes him El Busto…. Just wait until you “conservatives” get beat over the head about the economy non-stop. You can write and ‘demonize’ Obama all you want, but in the last two months you have yet to offer any concrete plans on how Republicans can turn things around. Keep Bush’s tax cuts is all McCain has.
You’re becoming part of the problem Wootie. Your time has passed, a younger generation doesn’t want to hear the bs you’re saying. After 7 1/2 years of Bush and 6 years of a Republican-led congress, I believe anyway would say a ‘hybrid version of a shiny new McGovern-mobile’ is better than what we’ve had. What is the GOP platform? What do you all stand for besides reducing taxes for corporations and more wars? Please tell me that first before you ‘demonize’ the opposition. You’re not giving anyone a reason to vote for the GOP, only a reason not to vote for the Dems. Retire please!
By ron
June 11, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
Good morning Jim,I don’t trust Barak Obama and if that’s demonizing him,so be it.He comes out of the snakepit that is Chicago politics.He is a different kind of Democrat than the ones I’m used to.He represents the elite Democrat,not the working class man.He represents Barbara Streisand and Sean Penn and probably our favorite girl,Hanoi Jane.He represents Ted Kennedy,and Jimmy Carter.He certainly couldn’t speak for Jack or Bobby Kennedy.Not the same class.Obama is not my cup of tea by a long shot.I will not be able to afford the payments on his ride,that’s for sure.I barely survived Bush’s ride.
By Taxpayer
June 11, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
Thanks, Jim. Your comments today were quite amusing. I especially enjoyed the clever way you avoided mentioning John McCain — there, I said it, JOHN McCAIN — while talking about Obama and a vice-presidential candidate for JOHN McCAIN. Your injection of Huckabee, for the benefit of the evangelical voters that yearn to see him in office, without actually supporting him either really took some effort, I’m sure.
I also really enjoyed some of those little jabs you managed to slip in such as:
While Obama talks about reaching across the aisle and fashioning a new Washington, “unfortunately his record does not reflect working in a bipartisan fashion.”
Who else do we know that was actually revered for his ability to reach across the aisles? Hmmmmm, could that be George Bush.
And this one:
But…he has gone far enough this year because, ultimately, this election is not going to be about something symbolic, it [will] be about something substantive.” said Huckabee.
Who was that preacher that used the symbolism in the TV ads, kimosabe? I’ve seen the light, Jim, and what do you know — it’s in the shape of a cross.
But, this one might well be the icing on the cake:
And when the costs of buying off all the constituencies who assembled the Obama ride are factored in, working Americans will suffer an extreme case of sticker shock..
Sticker shock, you say. I challenge you to show me how adding on the cost of the Wars on top of the Bush-approved drug plan and his inability to follow through on his promise to deal with the looming Social Security and Medicare funding crisis and his approval of a tax prebate, etc., does not add up to the most outrageous sticker shock we have ever had to face. I guess the width of that aisle was just too much of a stretch for this president. Of course, that’s just for starters. I could go on for days talking about this administration’s contribution to an economy that is in a “soft patch”. Isn’t that what Bush calls it? Enough of that though. I’ve got a garden to tend to.
By Marge
June 11, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
Obama is a socialist who wants to bankrupt working people who are productive and give handouts to the worthless to continue the democratic mantra. Unfortunately, McCain is also a loser. We are tired of voting for the lesser of two evils…both are pretty sad candidates to represent mainstream America. Yes, Obama is so inexperienced and a true leftist. Pandering to his new icon status as public speaker extraordinaire and historical barrier breaker just wont cut it.
By Obamawho
June 11, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
Obama has no resume, zero substantive experience, limited experience in state government with no accomplishments, less than a full term in the US Senate with the most liberal record - no cross party experience, no substantial legislation.
Foolish Democrats, you had a very strong candidate - with a proven record that you decided not to go with because Obama is a good orator.
By JOE BENTO COL US ARMY RET
June 11, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
We are supposed to take the word of a lucky sperm congressman? Maybe we can listen to his dad or gradpa who did the heavy lifting for junior to get his job in the first place. He uses Obama’s name to get into the news cycle for a day and someone is supposed to care. shoddy journalism. Obama walks the walk and is the real deal and that has the neo-cons shorts in a knot.
Barack and Roll in 2008!
By Guess where
June 11, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
guess where all the white taxocrats will be if Obama gets elected? Living in their yachts or switzerland!
By BFKaJ
June 11, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. I love the morning essay – well done, Mr. Wooten - as it invites me to ridicule both Mike Huckabee and Barack Obama, simultaneously. “Demonize” is a funny choice of terms for an evangelical/preacher who should know the meaning of the term. “Disparage” would have been an intelligent choice for Rev. Huckabee. I think we have a gentlemen’s agreement to avoid “denigrate” for this election cycle.
I think the plain language of the good Arkansan says that calling Hussein a “leftist” inserts an evil spirit into the Chicagoan. The suggestion of “insertion” is the misuse of the language. Here is where I run into trouble with the guv. From his uncharacteristically sparse language, I cannot determine what he wishes to convey. Perhaps he suggests that the democrat nominee already possesses a demon, and it is wrong to thereafter demonize him – don’t want to overload him with demons. Alternatively, he may be using the colloquial expression, meaning “falsely attributing demons to an innocent spirit.”
Of course, all of good character agree that leftism is an evil spirit floating throughout the land, normally marked by derangement and epithets, and a compulsion to misappropriate the worldly goods of others. The real question is whether any speaker who refers to Hussein as a “leftist” is truthful in the attribution. I have previously affirmed that truth. Anyone who voted against both Roberts and Alito is a leftist, and thus bears the mark of Satan.
By Mike
June 11, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
You’re a MORON!!! The most liberal senator is easily Russ Feingold. Get a clue.
By joe`
June 11, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
The black community only cares about skin color. If you don’t believe it, just come to Clayton County.
By Stratus
June 11, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
Personally, I wanted Hillary to get the nomination and then I would’ve voted for her for President, because then I wouldn’t feel so bad about getting screwed by the Government. At least it would be facing you and not behind you.
By Rajendra Ram
June 11, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
It amazes me that this guy Boren thrown all his support for Hillary, who is for socialized medicine, believes in socialism, and is more communist oriented, is saying now that he is a COSERVATIVE..INCREDILE!!! an excuse not to vote for a blackman. This is so typical of the hypocracy of another white man, who wants to find a way out not to support Barack.RCISM is a BIg factor in this race. You are right Boren told the truth, but Clinton’s policies were quite similar to Obama…This is what you call being racist. It is tough for Boren to vote for a blackman. His conscience tells him “why should I vote black against a white…..
By John Doe
June 11, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
I don’t trust any of the people “representing” us in Washington to actually represent us. They go to the highest bidder in order to keep power. I vote on both sides. My concern is that these jerks will continue to pile up the national debt and by the time my kids (6 year old twins) are my age 50% of the federal budget will go to paying for the debt. Guess what, we’re going to have to pay more in taxes and/or reduce spending A LOT.
By Peter
June 11, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
Jim you are a Funny guy……
Can you say Right Wing Communist……that might describe Bush, and his Trillion dollar mess in Iraq.
Where is the reaching across the isle to help the Katrina victims?
Are there any trailers that WON’T get little kids SICK?
Where is the “Conservative” in the deficit?
The old car we have get zero GAS mileage, and the Price of OIL is sky High…..
But hey as an OIL family, the BUSH folks love it!
By Jan
June 11, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Are none of the liberals caapable of remembering when the economy started the downward slide? Things were rolling along at a nice clip, UNTIL THE IDIOTS IN THIS COUNTRY decided to toss out the Republicans in Congress because they objected to the war in Iraq (which has actually been working very well, but you won’t read about it in the liberal media) and elect DEMOCRAPS. See what a FINE job they have done for the last 2 1/2 years? And these same idiots voting in a DEMOCRAPIC congress now wish to reward this idiocy with a DEMOCRAPIC, SOCIALIST, ELITIST, who has nothing to offer but tainted rhetoric. Brilliant! The only salvation for this country and our economy is to very quickly dispense with Obama. Let him continue his “do nothing” plans in Chicago with his anti-American, anti-white, anti-jew, anti-every other minority cohorts, but GET RID OF HIM NOW. Remember, Hitler wanted to bring change to Germany, and he did. Let the Americans show more individual ability to think than the Germans did. We are still able to get rid of mob frenzied lunatics with radical muslim leanings, just by voting. Do so in November, by voting for true Americans who still believe in the Constitution, the Pledge of Allegiance, and our military honor, and who have ALWAYS been proud of our country.
By be fair
June 11, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Blaming Bush for oil prices is idiotic. You should investigate who is blocking new drillings in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico (for the past 2o years), and the construction of new refineries. Then you know who is responsible for what you pay at the pump. Depending on Arabs for oil is bad politics just like increasing the minimum wage to enhance stupidity and decrease educational strive.
By be fair
June 11, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
Blaming Bush for oil prices is idiotic. You should investigate who is blocking new drillings in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico (for the past 2o years), and the construction of new refineries. Then you know who is responsible for what you pay at the pump. Depending on Arabs for oil is bad politics just like increasing the minimum wage to enhance stupidity and decrease educational strive.
By be fair
June 11, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
Blaming Bush for oil prices is idiotic. You should investigate who is blocking new drillings in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico (for the past 2o years), and the construction of new refineries. Then you know who is responsible for what you pay at the pump. Depending on Arabs for oil is bad politics just like increasing the minimum wage to enhance stupidity and decrease educational strive.
By Barack Hussein Obama
June 11, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
President Barack Hussein Obama:
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036
By Tropunlim
June 11, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
All other comments aside- McCain, in order to win the election, has to have more people show up for him on election day than does Obama. Obama’s people are fired up and ready to go. McCain’s people, while trying to put a happy face on it, are taking it one day at a time- praying to find a weakness. Rush Limbaugh doesn’t even like McCain. Republicans, looks like you have some hard work to do between now and the election.
By Bill Badman
June 11, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
We will not elect an OBAMA even with all the whine and pulling of hair.
Ms. Clinton won the popular vote (Dem) and still lost.
Elect a Black “Racist”? No, Nein! Obama threw his White Grandmother under the wheels of his Grand Ride for president and didn’t even look back!
We can wait for another Person Of Color to represent the good ole U. S. OF A. How About C. Rice for example. A woman and a person of color. Hmmm…
By Haleema
June 11, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
I am really irritated when people refer to Obama as breaking down barriers. Obama’s Father is Kenyan and all the Presidents in Kenya since the end of colonialism have been black. Obama’s mother is white and all of the President’s of the United States have been white. Obama is not breaking any barriers for descendants of “African slaves” especailly when Africans participated in sending black slaves to the United States. Obama’s parents did not participate in the civil rights movement. Obama is a mixture of the oppressive forces that created slavery in the first place. Descendants of black slaves will never have justice.
By Jordan
June 11, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
“Is it “demonizing” Barack Obama to point out that he’s “the most liberal senator” in Congress?”
I would consider spreading lies about someone with the intent of causing fear in people who don’t know any better to be “demonizing” so, yes.
There are many Senators more “liberal” than Obama. Senator Bernie Sanders comes to mind. Heck, he outright describes himself as a “Socialist”.
It’s funny how whenever there’s a Democratic senator running for President the National Journal is right there to call them “Most Liberal”… What… Obama was able to take over from Kerry in just a few years? (Yes, Kerry was “most liberal” just 4 years ago.)
By A Historical Reference
June 11, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
Two things even though they are not mentions very often.
Obama want to meet unconditionaly with our adversaries to have diplomatic talks. Any student of history knows that this only leads to conflict with the “diplomatic” side having to fight from a position much weaker than what they started out with. A prime example is Neville Chamberlain (if you do not know who he is smack your world history teacher) he thought he was doing the right thing by making concessions to Hitler and we know what that led to.
Hillary Clinton said it best herself when she said that if the phone rings in the White House at 3am she would rather have McCain answering that call than Obama. I am sorry but the man just does not have what it takes. (On a side note I wonder how long it will take for the GOP to find that sound bite and start running it as thier own ad?)
By Carl Rowe
June 11, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
Tired, tired old right comments showing they have nothing to say. The Republicans have been running up enormous debt during Reagan and Bush years and have the nerve to talk about the “expense” of Obama. Americans want stuff but don’t want to pay. Republicans oblige with debt that will cripple us for decades. Remember, the last balanced budget came from a Democrat.
By Walter
June 11, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
Rajendra Ram, it is very apparent that racism is indeed alive and well. For most of the American voters supporting the Obamatrain, it has been rather skewed towards those of ethnicity and younger college kids, but to try and demand that a person vote for Obama or even suggest that a person is racist because they don’t vote for Obama is ridiculous. I’m not voting Obama because I do not like his politics. He is an empty suit making empty promises and is about to force me to pay higher taxes to support warlord ridden countries. So if you like call me racist, call me a klansman, call me an aryan or whatever other white supremacist group you can think of because it makes you feel better. My wife, who is ethnic, despises Obama and says he is fake, my neighbors, most of ethnicity, say he is a false prophet and will lead America to despair. So yeah we’re all racists.
By rg
June 11, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
Sean, I like the point you’ve made here. Reading through these comments, it seems like we spend more time attacking each other with semantics and rhetoric than we do discussing the real issues. For whatever it is worth, I believe that both Obama and McCain are basically decent, honest guys who are trying to make this a better country. I might not agree with one or both of them on any given issue, but that doesn’t need to take away my respect for them as people. Folks, please, “McKlan”? “Obamanation”? We’re all better than this. Let’s talk about the change you want to see, then go look for the candidate (not the party) who has demonstrated the character and convictions to make that change. If you can look past the party label and do that, I admire you.
By Rob
June 11, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
We elected Bush because Kerry would increase the taxes and we would be worse off. What happened? We have tax breaks but dollar is not worth, gas is more than $4 a gallon and unemployment is 5.5%. No need to mention the deficit and debt we have. On top of this, you are still talking about democrats increasing the taxes like a broken record. It is you Republicans mess and only a Democrat can clean this mess. 4 more years of same policies will make us even worse.
By Redneck Convert
June 11, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
Well, my buddy Jim Earl got this president race about right. He says we can’t afford to change alot now. If we do then the profits all the big income guys got from the tax cuts won’t start trickling down and the rest of us won’t get nothing. Its only been 7 years and we need to give old man McCain time to Stay the Course so the rest of us start getting something. It takes alot of time when it comes to guvmint.
Another thing Jim Earl says. We need to keep whacking at welfare programs till there ain’t nothing but defense spending left. We don’t need to be paying for a bunch of Those People to get doctoring with our taxes and live longer. Just keep things the way they are. Most of us kind of like our medical insurance and we sure don’t need to be bringing in 47 million people to it and clogging up the waiting rooms. If God had of meant for all Those People to have health insurance He would of let them be borned with policys in their little hands. Let them die off the way God intended.
And I come up with this one. We can’t start electing one of Those People as President. If we do then Those People will get plumb out of control. Its got so you can’t even do a little tweaking and make them show Photo ID without them kicking up a bunch of sand. We all might of knowed what would happen when Congress passed those Civil Rights. We were going along pretty good till then. We had Jim Crow and other things to keep them in their place.
Old man McCain is as White as they come. He’s so White his skin keeps turning into cancer from the sun. So lets make sure we keep a White man in the White House. That’s why they named it the White House. Anyhow, we don’t have to say we don’t want one of Those People in the White House. We can use other ways of saying it, like “I ain’t a racist but this guy is too librul.” Or “Lets wait a few decades till one of Those People comes out thinking just like us.”
Have a good day everybody. Don’t forget to buy plenty of beer so I can keep my job. Its only Wednesday but its never too late to stock up for the weekend.
Oh, almost forgot. This Ron asked me how the missus is. She’s fine but a little cranky. She has fell off to 325 pounds and she gets kind of ornery when she’s that skinny. Guess I’ll take her to Ryans so she can bulk up and get in a good mood.
By ArchiesBoy
June 11, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
In Wooton’s case, being right is being wrong. Wooton’s nonsense proposes staying to the right when it was the right that got us into all the trouble we’ve had for the last eight years. Anyone from the right crowing about staying right in light of the egregious calamities the right has brought is us a fool. And of course, anything just slightly to the left of right is to a rightie extremism. I think going to the left is the specific antidote right now
By Robert Campbell
June 11, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
All you guys keep talking about the “billions” spent in Iraq. You might want to open your supposedly already open minds to the fact that we have spent trillions on social programs to support generation upon generation to what end. An entire segment of entitlement minded, handout dependent, “can get out of the way of a hurricane til the bus picks us” up crowd. The country does not need a President who will not only burden business with more taxes, but take those taxes and give them to the biggest drain on the economy - welfare recipients.
By C Brents
June 11, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
Wow! A lone, sane voice in the Atlanta paper? Well at least socialism has one mind willing to say huge government ideas take massive taxation.
By commonfreakingsense
June 11, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
It still amazes me how ignorant the conservatives really are. It’s almost embarassing! I can now see the reason we are ranked 29th in the world in education. A group of people that are so easily swayed by fear and stupidity. Can you really believe that we are in such great shape right now with Bush in office? Can so many millions of republican voters be that stupid? It gives me the chills just thinking about it! For seven years I have watched the rich get richer and the income of middle class go down the drain. There is a word called “greed” and it has been here since man became to exist. When you give a milliion to one man, he keeps it. When you give a million to many, they spend it and invest it more widely. Common sense! A six year old can figure this out. I have a feeling that if I brought a dozen apples and explained it with them “maybe” most republican voters “might” figure it out. But, maybe not! I can only say this, we need to invest in education so that so many of the republican voters can see through the lies they are told and make our politicians more reliable and honest.
By T
June 11, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
sorry, you liberal tweaks…..you simply cannot hide or avoid the FACT that B.O. is the MOST liberal presidental candidate since McGovern.
Who is/was McGovern you ask? Well he was a nice enough, well-meaning (in the Jimmy Carter sense of the word)geek from South Dakota whose mission in life was, and still is, to feed the world…good luck with that one..but at least he DID have more experience than B.O.
Long story short——he crashed and burned in the GE because Americans look for a leader in a President, not a bleeding heart.
The sad thing is, America may, through its ADD culture and failure to see the big picture, actually chose this guy. Talk about grasping at straws. Talk about jumping from the pan into the fire. Could you find anyone less experienced,more liberal, or more same old/leftwing/partisan/political machine than this guy?? Amazing stuff.
By Dutchman
June 11, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
You lefties are all alike.
Let us fix the economy by taxing everyone more. Let us raise taxes on the big corporations. Let us raise taxes on people who have savings and investments. It isn’t their money anyway.
Who will pay for the “free” college education BHO is calling for? Who will pay for the “free” health care? Who will be left to pay all those taxes when all of our jobs are shipped off shore because it is too expensive to own a business here?
Right, let us let a socialist be President or maybe Premier is a better term.
If you are over 40 and still a liberal, it is time to get a job.
By Tonia
June 11, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
I see the hysterical Obama supporters are all in a lather here. Calm down people. Just because someone dares to disagree with Obama does not make them a racist. That old tired line is worn out. Discussing the pros and cons of a candidate’s proposed policies is part of the political process. You need to come up with a better retort in support of your candidate than, “anyone who disagrees is racist.”
By Tedro
June 11, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
BUSH FAM = OIL OIL = MIDDLE EAST MIDDLE EAST = SHADY SHADY = OSAMA FAM OSAMA FAM = 911 911 = PAY BACK PAY BACK TO WHO?
First they kicked us, now they rob us.
But who is they and who robbed who first?
See thru the illusions people.
By ericmiami
June 11, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
Redneck Convert, you are number one. I’m the bitter old white guy, voting for Obama.
By Robert Campbell
June 11, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
All you guys keep talking about the “billions” spent in Iraq. You might want to open your supposedly already open minds to the fact that we have spent trillions on social programs to support generation upon generation to what end; an entire segment of entitlement minded, handout dependent, “can’t get out of the way of a hurricane til the bus picks us” up crowd. The country does not need a President who will not only burden business with yet more taxes, but take those taxes and give them to the biggest drain on the nation & economy - welfare recipients. Label it racist if you want, however, I am a Native American.
By Robert Campbell
June 11, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
All you guys keep talking about the “billions” spent in Iraq. You might want to open your supposedly already open minds to the fact that we have spent trillions on social programs to support generation upon generation to what end; an entire segment of entitlement minded, handout dependent, “can’t get out of the way of a hurricane til the bus picks us” up crowd. The country does not need a President who will not only burden business with yet more taxes, but take those taxes and give them to the biggest drain on the nation & economy - welfare recipients. Label it racist if you want, however, I am a Native American.
By Token Gringo
June 11, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The first guy to comment used “sane” and “liberal” to refer to one subject matter. These two terms cannot be used together to describe one individual. Liberals are not sane by definition.
By Registered Voter
June 11, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
Wake up, people.
The upcoming election is about more than a Presidential race.
If you really want change in Washington then each and every one of you are going to have to register to vote, get down to the polls and vote out ALL of the greedy and lazy fat-cats in Washington.
Only by replacing ALL of the Representatives and ALL of the Senators do the American people have a chance at real change.
Anything else will only result in more of the same insults to the American people that we have suffered through for the past 44 years.
Good luck and may the best people win this time around.
By Travis
June 11, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
Obamas tax plan calls for a tax decrease for people who make less than $150,000 and a tax increase for those who make more than $150,000. Those are facts. McCain will continue the Bush administrations tax cuts for the wealthy. I am sick and tired of hearing how the Republican party at present cares for the middle and lower class americans. Republicans in the present administration are not true republicans. Ron Paul is a true republican.
By Whippy
June 11, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
It’s not “demonizing” to call Obama “the most liberal senator”, it’s just incorrect. (C’mon, more liberal than Bernie Sanders? Don’t be inane.)
Funny how any Dem candidate for President automatically becomes “the most liberal”.
By Jason
June 11, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
We could have already completely converted to clean renewable energy with on the shelf technology (solar-hydro, solar-wind, and conventional solar) if we would have spent every dollar that we’ve spent on Iraq on modernizing energy generation. Couple that with electric cars and we would be completely energy dependent instead of embroiled in a quagmire that will inevitably end in ethnic partition.
Saying that the Obama ride intails unpredicted, hidden costs ignores the bottom line on the invoice on the “bill of goods” that McCain is selling. 100 years of war in Iraq, a draft to man that operation, and the taxation of your job provided medical benefits.
60% of Americans are uninsured or underinsured. That number is up from 20% in 2004. The fastest growing segment of the American population without adequate health insurance is the middle class and lower upper class. That is because all the lower class are already uninsured. In the richest country in the world, that is shameful. And McCain’s solution is to privatize all of the group plans and tax the crap out of them. That is great for young single healthy folks. For families, middle aged, or those with pre-existing conditions, it is going to be ruinuous. His healthcare policy is as bad as his war policy.
Wake up people. McCain is campaigning for Bush’s third term minus all empty Christian platitudes. Empty in that Bush’s policies certainly don’t “love is neighbor”. Unless Bush only lives next to Halliburton.
By SaltyBob
June 11, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
I truly believe Obama is an islamist. He will destroy our country. He is playing on the people as they are sick of the war. If elected he will bring the troops home. Then he will let us be attacked by Arabs in our cities. Do you really want this guy as Cdr In Chief? Everyone keeps saying that there is only a few Muslims that are terrorist. This is very misleading. There are 1.61 billion Muslims worldwide. If there is only 5-10 % bad guys, or hell only 1% you do the math. I want a warrior as my C in C. As upset as I am with President Bush, I do belive It is through his efforts that we have not had to kick Muslims off our porch. SaltyBob in TN.
By Whippy
June 11, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
It’s not “demonizing” to call Obama “the most liberal senator”, it’s just incorrect. (C’mon, more liberal than Bernie Sanders? Don’t be inane.)
Funny how any Dem candidate for President automatically becomes “the most liberal”.
By Tell the Truth
June 11, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
Marge @ 9:35, you want to call Obama a socialist that wants to bankrupt hard-working Americans, well Bush and the Republicans have bankrupted millions of hard-working Americans. Everyone keeps saying drill in Alaska or off the coasts, well for one theres less than a 20 year supply of oil in Alaska and the oil companies are just going to sell it to China anyway. Don’t tell me the sky is green when I’m looking right at it.
By Thoughts
June 11, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Wow….is all I can about this blog. People are so blinded and brainwashed by the news media. We will overlook the economy and the current state it is in now under Bush policies. We spend hundreds of billions of dollars on the Iraq war…yet we can’t seem to do anything here in this country to assist thousans of businesses that are closing due to high gas prices. Or maybe truckers whose life existence resides in the price of Diesel fuel, which is pushing $5 a gallon. You also speak of Elitist…what makes Obama any more of an “elitist” than McCain? Because he went to Harvard and doesn’t sound like a complete fool when he speaks? Pathetic.
By Steven Krogh
June 11, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
To all you “social conservatives” out there, I have one question:
What kind of character and judgment does a man have that can fool around and then finally divorce his spouse who had been severely injured in a car accident but was recuperating? Then, only a month after the divorce this same man can REMARRY?!
Yep, it’s your guy…Johnny McCain.
So when you right-wingers throw around your name-calling jabs like “fascist”,”liberal”, and “Satan” to define Obama, and explain how his judgment will be poor based on his “friends”, well, I want to remind you of the judgment of the man you are supporting.
And I’m not even touching his Charles Keating scandal.
A healthy discussion regarding the issues is great…but don’t try the old name-calling crap anymore. The American voter has wised up to those nutjob tactics.
I say all this as one of the 40%’ers out there that considers himself Independent and unsure of who he’ll vote for in the fall. But rest assured it certainly won’t be for the party that throws the most insulting names around. That’s the politics of old.
By Michael
June 11, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
Has 8 years of GOP leadership not shown you anything?? You people do not know how to run a country… well.. unless running it into the ground counts.. then you do a great job.
G.O.P. = Government Oppressing People …. Have you not learned, there is nothing you can do to stop the Obama movement… Look around the corner baby… Change is there … and it’s bringing its bff, prosperity ..
By John Doe
June 11, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
I don’t trust any of the people “representing” us in Washington to actually represent us. They go to the highest bidder in order to keep power. I vote on both sides. My concern is that these jerks will continue to pile up the national debt and by the time my kids (6 year old twins) are my age 50% of the federal budget will go to paying for the debt. Guess what, we’re going to have to pay more in taxes and/or reduce spending A LOT.
By Ruben G.
June 11, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
This guy is too funny! He actually pulls out the tired old “most liberal Senator EVER!” cliche, which the Gray Old Party churns out every four years no matter who the nominee is. After 8 years of destruction to the economy, the disastrous and expensive war in Iraq, and scandal after weird scandal (Wide Stance!!), they’re going to have to do better than that.
John McCain has publicly praised George W. Bush over and over again amidst all of these failings. And while out-of-touch and divorced from reality old-media heads like Wooten voice support for more of the same, the rest of us need to question the motives and sanity of these troubling individuals.
By master from shamrock
June 11, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
i’ve said it 7yrs ago bush no nothing about the job of a president he cant run the USA the bush era is gonna be over.but WHO IS REALLY TO BLAME THE VOTERS THATS VOTED FOR BUSH. its SHOWS how Stupid american is .dont get mad @ me for saying that but just look around us.! GAS OIL FOOD WAR ALL COST By the misleading war.iraq was invaded for oil is you didnt kno. this was greed why we cant drill oil because bush family lose money if they do that.war crime! impeachment ! DAMN YOU BUSH YOU COSTED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE LIFES OF LOVE ONES AND JOBS WE NEED TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE FOR THE FAMILYS.
By Michael
June 11, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
Has 8 years of GOP leadership not shown you anything?? You people do not know how to run a country… well.. unless running it into the ground counts.. then you do a great job.
G.O.P. = Government Oppressing People …. Have you not learned, there is nothing you can do to stop the Obama movement… Look around the corner baby… Change is there … and it’s bringing its bff, prosperity ..
By KGC
June 11, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
The Obama campaign will say or do anything to advance their candidate’s cause. Their efforts completely shatter credulity; truth means nothing to them.
By A Historical Reference
June 11, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
The last balanced federal budget was in 1969.
The President at that time was Richard Nixon (1969-1974).
He was not a Democrat.
By Kevin
June 11, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
It is not demonizing Senator Obama to address his lack of a legislative record and the liberal track of what voting record he does have. It is also right to call him out on his statements like the windfall profist tax proposal.
And I am very tired of liberals justifying Sen. Obama that he is not George Bush. We know what we are changing from but tell us what we are changing to.
By hilary stookey
June 11, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Obviously, someone who says a hybrid promises 40 miles per gallon and delivers 12 doesn’t either own one or done proper research on the subject. The comparison was a metaphorical one, but if the basic facts are wrong the carelessness reflects on the rest of the article. Our hybrid Civic does between 46-56 miles to the gallon which sure beats the SUV we used to own a few years back. The cost of oil is reflected in the price of everything in our society. Change is vital. But change is not always comfortable and it can be scarey. Obama signifies change too. And before fearful detractors reel off that curious list of “he’s never done anything” comments, it would be useful not to follow the poor example of the author of this article. He also authoritatively declared knowledge of data which was inaccurate. Researching reputable resources will prove that each change would come with great qualifications.
By Mandelay
June 11, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
I was amazed that Boren’s district has no interest in “party unity.” What will happen to that district when “the Chicago Way” comes to town? Just ask Mayor Dailey how they deal with those who won’t get on board. But, I’m also encouraged and I hope this representative sticks to his guns as there seems to be little principle left in my party, the Democratic Party. After over 30 years of voting Democratic without once wavering, I am boycotting the DNC for 2008. Call me an independent. As for any other political party that has some news for this white, female, college grad and working professional, I’m listening. As a woman, I’d like to hear how other parties do not need to reduce me to one issue “reproductive rights.” Sure, that’s important, but so are those glass ceilings, especially the one with 18 million cracks in it. As a college educated woman, I will never forget that I am from a “no higher than 9th grade” educated family that is working class through and through. As a resident of Greenwich Village, living two blocks from where Bill Ayers and his crew blew up a townhouse making bombs, I’d like to hear about candidates who refuse to associate with murderers who escaped conviction on legal technicalities, s but who admit they’re guilty and proud of it. As a voter concerned about the money needed to run for office these days, I am offended by the Obama hypocrisy over “no lobby/pac money” as he continues to embrace the multi-million dollar contributions gathered up by “bundlers” via a loophole in the finance laws. In short, I am immune to DNC talking points and will vote in November, using my vote to make sure I VOTE AGAINST THE DNC.
By hilary stookey
June 11, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
Obviously, someone who says a hybrid promises 40 miles per gallon and delivers 12 doesn’t either own one or done proper research on the subject. The comparison was a metaphorical one, but if the basic facts are wrong the carelessness reflects on the rest of the article. Our hybrid Civic does between 46-56 miles to the gallon which sure beats the SUV we used to own a few years back. The cost of oil is reflected in the price of everything in our society. Change is vital. But change is not always comfortable and it can be scarey. Obama signifies change too. And before fearful detractors reel off that curious list of “he’s never done anything” comments, it would be useful not to follow the poor example of the author of this article. He also authoritatively declared knowledge of data which was inaccurate. Researching reputable resources will prove that each change would come with great qualifications.
By CurtisJohnson
June 11, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
I used to work in the facilities department at Yale University and as a black man I witnessed one of the a most incredible thing, a black man headed the facilities department and he was responsible for making decisions which spent millions of dollars and I saw white, well off, educated, well paid people work for and truly respect him. I tell you this guy was truly knighted by an invisible power which transcends race, a power that the people in the news media only wish they had the privy to engage, does anyone truly believe just a bunch of enthusiastic young people could have constructed a plan which could have defeated the Clinton political machine? To make the assertion that Obama is just some chance encounter and not part of a long thought out plan funded, organized, advised by that invisible power which shape nations, that invisible power which the democrats and the republicans’ only purpose is to be their instruments in shaping world conditions, is idiotic. Any one who has studied world civilizations knows the very things Obama advocates in is affect nation building, and let’s face folks, we have to stop looking back at the good ol’ glory days of the USA and realize we have to start and all over and invest in one another and to succumb to an xenophobic accounting ideology does not deal with short and long range economics does not have our long security at heart
Curtis
By Franklin
June 11, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
Your choice is basically this…
1) Tax dollars go to helping Americans, increases on taxes of the 5% wealthiest
2) Tax dollars go to funding the continuing Iraq War and McCain’s Iran War, keep taxing loans from the Chinese and plunge further into debt to fund it
I’d rather see the money spent at home, myself. Maybe pay for health care for sick people here before paying to kill people there.
By Tyrone
June 11, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
I cannot wait for the Presidential Inaugural Ball when we can see FIRST LADY Michelle Obama shakin’ her beautiful booty and BACKING THAT SWEET AZZ UP for all the Haters and White People!
By The Truth
June 11, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Larry, Rich, Marge, Bill Badman, Common Sense, Be Fair, Brett, and the Rest… You guys are unequivocly, without a doubt, certifiably nuts. (either that or really, really obtuse)
By ron
June 11, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Redneck,Don’t go appeasing the missus by fattening her up and coolin down her temper.325 pounds of rompin,stompin ugly in the truck is better protection than my granpappy’s old hound.Just a redneck’s idea of paradise.Also,redneck,if you keep her in the truck,you won’t have to kiss her goodbye.
By Franklin
June 11, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
Your choice is basically this…
1) Tax dollars go to helping Americans, increases on taxes of the 5% wealthiest
2) Tax dollars go to funding the continuing Iraq War and McCain’s Iran War, keep taxing loans from the Chinese and plunge further into debt to fund it
I’d rather see the money spent at home, myself. Maybe pay for health care for sick people here before paying to kill people there.
By Peter
June 11, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Hey Jim……
Who makes the PAYMENTS for the Trillion Dollar WAR?
Please explain the “Conservatism” in the WAR?
Who will make the payments for the Children that are getting Sick because of the Katrina Trailers?
By Franklin
June 11, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Your choice is basically this…
1) Tax dollars go to helping Americans, increases on taxes of the 5% wealthiest
2) Tax dollars go to funding the continuing Iraq War and McCain’s Iran War, keep taxing loans from the Chinese and plunge further into debt to fund it
I’d rather see the money spent at home, myself. Maybe pay for health care for sick people here before paying to kill people there.
By moi
June 11, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
We’re screwed no matter who you vote for. And pray tell, why would Obama need to be “bipartisan” when the Democrat’s goal is to completely take over both houses? They want the power to give the finger to conservatives and do what they damn well please without a president or supreme court to provide checks and balances. (DUH!) It’s the same thing the Republicans want. Now tell me how any of this is any different than it has been for the past sixty years at minimum???
By John Smith
June 11, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Wow, the leftists here are extreme… blaming Iraq for the expensive gasoline, for the lack of drilling in the US, calling McCain “McKlan” and claiming conservatives want to use the “n word” to win…
Typical demonization and rabid slander from political extremists.
Funny how they argue we went into Iraq for oil instead of the real reasons and how this actually cost us oil. Or how they claim conspiracies like saying that 9/11 was caused by “the Jews” and America.
Regardless, empty arguments do not persuade anyone except those who are already full of deception.
Wooten wrote an excellent article and obviously brought the snakes out biting hard. They are desperate to silence him and a large number have called for him to quit. Such hate these leftists are filled with - and lies - clearly shows their true nature.
By jason
June 11, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
To the Dutchman, Getting out of Iraq would pay for most of those programs. Many of you conservatives on this board ignore the welfare reform act of 1996. You can not stay on AFDC forever anymore. It is a bridge program to more education and then you’re kicked off.
The Universal health plans that have been proposed could easily be paid for. Universal Health care would suck up Medicaid and Medicare funds. Most large employers already pay a boatload for healthcare for their employees. All of those funds would be replaced by a flat rate 7.7 across the board payroll tax. In many cases this will be dramatically less than is currently being paid by large companies like IBM, Microsoft, State Agencies, and Exxon. A small biz exemption will be written into the legislation. Couple that with the percentage of the military budget that is directed towards redundant, non-combat related healthcare provision. And that is paid for universal health care. The only people taxed are the large companies. And they actually come out ahead b/c they don’t have to pay for health insurance. The only people who loose are Blue Cross and Shield, Aetna, HealthChoice, etc.
Biz will be more competitiive (the #1 cost of an automobile made in the US is healthcare) and we don’t have to increase taxes b/c we already pay a boat load for medicare and medicade and military healthcare.
Also it will make healthcare more efficient. Up to 25% of the current medical bill is to support billing. How many billing secretaries and “coders” does your doctor have? Eliminate those costs and it is automatically 25% more efficient. Stop knee jerk reacting and do some research folks.
By R. Elliot
June 11, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
Economy / Iraq / etc
Economy - first 6 years were good and those years included a viscious attack upon the USA. The past 2 years have soured due to cheap money, greed (by the people - they signed the loan documents) and lack of common sense and a DEMOCRATIC congress and senate that are spending money faster than it can be printed.
If you want government controled medical care - it will cost you 7% of your wages plus a match by your employer (look at Germany) and everybody pays it, not just the rich that the Democrates like to demonize. If you want a better pension (social security) system, the cost is 10% plus an employer match (again look at Europe). You want cleaner and renewable energy, again look towards Europe - $3.00 per gallon in taxes to pay for the mass transit and solar and wind programs.
I would vote for any politican - if a socialist, if they would speak the TRUTH - by the way, you still pay income taxes above and beyond the 17% for health care and a pension. It only works if EVERYONE PAYS. The democrats are lying to the undereducated and the undereducated believe it because it sounds wonderful to something for nothing, but it isn’t going to cost nothing.
Our companies will leave the US and be headquarter in Dubai or Bermuda to avoid the taxes. Then there will be no one to tax.
IRAQ - it’s about oil, but if we could drill here, we could let go of Iraq - but that is the fault of the Democrats. Please allow drilling here once again. Keep our money here and employee our people here. Tax gasoline and build more mass transit - oil is not going down. And yes, Sadamm could have opened his doors and the war would not have been necessary. We did the dirty work for the world.
By Phil Lombard
June 11, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten, I’ve got no issue with your disagreement with Senator Obama’s policies, but the following quote disturbs me. You said, “Obama is a factory-issue leftist who is as partisan as they come in Washington. There’s a real disconnect between the talk and the walk.” I would more fully consider your ideas if you’d offer the name of a prominent Republican to fill in the following: “(Prominent Republican name) is a factory-issue rightist who is as partisan as they come in Washington. There’s a real disconnect between the talk and the walk.” Perhaps you believe there are no Republicans who have any faults on par with your perception of Senator Obama’s faults, but that doesn’t mean you can be as derisive as hell. You can communicate and inform the public better than that.
By R. Elliot
June 11, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
Economy / Iraq / etc
Economy - first 6 years were good and those years included a viscious attack upon the USA. The past 2 years have soured due to cheap money, greed (by the people - they signed the loan documents) and lack of common sense and a DEMOCRATIC congress and senate that are spending money faster than it can be printed.
If you want government controled medical care - it will cost you 7% of your wages plus a match by your employer (look at Germany) and everybody pays it, not just the rich that the Democrates like to demonize. If you want a better pension (social security) system, the cost is 10% plus an employer match (again look at Europe). You want cleaner and renewable energy, again look towards Europe - $3.00 per gallon in taxes to pay for the mass transit and solar and wind programs.
I would vote for any politican - if a socialist, if they would speak the TRUTH - by the way, you still pay income taxes above and beyond the 17% for health care and a pension. It only works if EVERYONE PAYS. The democrats are lying to the undereducated and the undereducated believe it because it sounds wonderful to something for nothing, but it isn’t going to cost nothing.
Our companies will leave the US and be headquarter in Dubai or Bermuda to avoid the taxes. Then there will be no one to tax.
IRAQ - it’s about oil, but if we could drill here, we could let go of Iraq - but that is the fault of the Democrats. Please allow drilling here once again. Keep our money here and employee our people here. Tax gasoline and build more mass transit - oil is not going down. And yes, Sadamm could have opened his doors and the war would not have been necessary. We did the dirty work for the world.
By Phil Lombard
June 11, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten, I’ve got no issue with your disagreement with Senator Obama’s policies, but the following quote disturbs me. You said, “Obama is a factory-issue leftist who is as partisan as they come in Washington. There’s a real disconnect between the talk and the walk.” I would more fully consider your ideas if you’d offer the name of a prominent Republican to fill in the following: “(Prominent Republican name) is a factory-issue rightist who is as partisan as they come in Washington. There’s a real disconnect between the talk and the walk.” Perhaps you believe there are no Republicans who have any faults on par with your perception of Senator Obama’s faults, but that doesn’t mean you can be as derisive as hell. You can communicate and inform the public better than that.
By atlantalocal
June 11, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Its amazing how quickly the author looses credibility with his remarks. There are very few arguments against Obama, unfortunately the author cannot find them, instead relying on biased rhetoric. If you’re not going to really do your research on the issue and present an educated opinion, then you should really stop yourself from looking like such a fool. And that last comment is meant for most of you commentators. Right now Obama, with his limited experience has much more credibility with the economy than the Right. I’m even starting to get p** at the right for being able to do so much damage to America. But like Obama said, we are all American’s first so I hope you will come to see how bad things are with the Right leadership. Luckily you too will benefit when Obama becomes president.
By Janine
June 11, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Why do some liberal commentators call this thin-framed, boy-girl Obama good-looking? Gawd, I thought he was a med-school cadaver on the loose when I first laid eyes on him.
And it takes a lot of looking just to see his boney carcass. When you do finally bring him into focus, he looks like a cartoon character with Dumbo ears & blue lips.
When are we going to get an honest-to-Gawd man from the Democrat party - and don’t say Hillary was the man candidate from that party. Just don’t say it…
Now, thirteen percent of the electorate thinks its vote put cadaver boy into the race. Yes, get out the vote my brothers.
You won’t even carry the South.
By R. Elliot
June 11, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Economy / Iraq / etc
Economy - first 6 years were good and those years included a viscious attack upon the USA. The past 2 years have soured due to cheap money, greed (by the people - they signed the loan documents) and lack of common sense and a DEMOCRATIC congress and senate that are spending money faster than it can be printed.
If you want government controled medical care - it will cost you 7% of your wages plus a match by your employer (look at Germany) and everybody pays it, not just the rich that the Democrates like to demonize. If you want a better pension (social security) system, the cost is 10% plus an employer match (again look at Europe). You want cleaner and renewable energy, again look towards Europe - $3.00 per gallon in taxes to pay for the mass transit and solar and wind programs.
I would vote for any politican - if a socialist, if they would speak the TRUTH - by the way, you still pay income taxes above and beyond the 17% for health care and a pension. It only works if EVERYONE PAYS. The democrats are lying to the undereducated and the undereducated believe it because it sounds wonderful to something for nothing, but it isn’t going to cost nothing.
Our companies will leave the US and be headquarter in Dubai or Bermuda to avoid the taxes. Then there will be no one to tax.
IRAQ - it’s about oil, but if we could drill here, we could let go of Iraq - but that is the fault of the Democrats. Please allow drilling here once again. Keep our money here and employee our people here. Tax gasoline and build more mass transit - oil is not going down. And yes, Sadamm could have opened his doors and the war would not have been necessary. We did the dirty work for the world.
By d. a. mensah
June 11, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
This man talks anyhow. No wonder he has to be going back to apologise every now and then. To be very frank lacks the ability to think qualitatively.
No wonder he suggeated 15,000,000 million illegal immigrants should be sent back home and come in later.
Mike Hukabee, has a thinking problem. And i wonder where gathered confidence to run for the office of the president of USA.
By Peter
June 11, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
Wow folks Bush is now claiming he wants Diplomacy with Iran……
Wow I guess Obama is correct after all…..Gee isn’t that what he has been saying all along!
Bush is a Flip Flopper!
By Tom J
June 11, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
Let’s skip from Jim Wooten’s “conservative” talking points to their REAL concerns about Obama. Such things as: Coburn-Obama Transparency Act - USAspending.gov Feingold-Obama Open Government Act Obama’s University of Chicago economic policies Paul Volcker’s endorsement of Obama
Obama believess in reality-based government.
Wooten believes in Affirmative Action for Republicans, and calls it being ‘conservative’. Just read today’s news about the Justice Department - all those Republican appointees operating a machine-politics patronage system, ignoring their own department’s rankings.
Time to vote the Republicans out of office, as it’s the only way to stop them from continuing to pass out government money to their cronies. The only ideology they care about involves micro-economics - their personal bank balances.
By iLarynx
June 11, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
“SHAKING HANDS WITH THE WORLD’S TYRANTS”
You mean, like when Republican Rumsfeld shook hands with Saddam? http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/rumsfeld-saddam.jpg
Good one. I don’t think you’ll find such an embarrassing photo of a Democrat doing anything as stupid as that. Before now, or even after 8 years of Obama.
Clearly, the mouth-breathing Republicans who were so easily dupped by the MSM into voting for Bush - TWICE! - are scrambling to find anyting to distract from their stupid choices over the past 8 years. These dupes and their votes have resulted in disaster for this country. Not the least of which is THE MOST CATASTROPHIC SECURITY FAILURE IN THE HISTORY OF THE USA (while W golfed and proposed ZERO anti-terrorist measures during the 8 months prior to 9/11) resulting in the deaths of nearly 3000 Americans. Quickly followed by THE MOST DISASTROUS FOREIGN POLICY AND MILITARY BUNGLING IN THE HISTORY OF THE USA (resulting in the deaths of over 4000 good and brave American soldiers). And now we are seeing the fruits of THE ELITIST REPUBLICAN MONETARY AND FISCAL POLICIES IN OUR COLLAPSING ECONOMY.
While most of the unsound economic principals of the right-wing (including skewing the tax structure to favor the rich at the expense of the middle-class through the Bush Tax Reform Act of 2001) have been applied since the beginning of Bush’s term, the results are now being felt. Of course, those most embarrassed by their previous GOP votes try to blame the Democrats for the economic mess we’re now in, but they won’t say what SPECIFIC change the Dems made that are causing these problems. Why? Because they CAN’T. The result of the Republican economy is stagnant wages, increasing unemployment and underemployment, a weakened middle-class, a tax structure that favors the extremely wealthy over the averages citizen more than at any other time since the depression. Investment companies are imploding and being bailed out with taxpayer money, and numerous banks are now at risk of failing.
The laissez-fare policies of the GOP have given us our housing crisis. The drunken sailor TAXCUT-AND-SPEND GOP, along with their trillion dollar boondoggle in Iraq, have flushed our surplus from the 1990s and given us and our kids a mountain of debt. And when GASOLINE prices crept towards a whopping $2 during the presidential campaign of 2000, George W. Bush said that if he were president, he’d tell the Middle Eastern oil barons to “open up their spigots.” Well, last month W did just that, and his FAILURE can be measured by your gasoline bill. Not only did he fail, but they pretty much told him where he could shove his spigot. Thanks for nothing, George!
Cheney invites his corporate cronies to write America’s energy policies and we’re surprised that the average citizen suffers under $4+ gas while the oil companies shovel in record breaking profits in the tens of BILLIONS of dollars?
But this is the usual result of having the elitist Republicans in power. A few well connected cronies live high on the hog while the average Joe suffers.
By Gazzaden
June 11, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
Well, it will sure be a hell of a lot cheaper than our previous “ride”. Also, what is this fixation with lowering taxes all the time. A bigger impact on how Americans are doing finacially is not how much taxes they pay, but how much they actually earning. Thanks to the governments consistent lies about the real rate of US inflation (now approaching 12%), real incomes have declined by up to 50% over the past eight years. This is precisely because the government does not want to apply the real COLA adjustments to Social Security. Not has not increased taxes to fund the real increases in expenditure, but they have also wasted literally trillions of dollars (on pointless foriegn misadventures) that could have fixed practically every key issue in America today. So, when you choose your next president, and you maintain the same blinkered, short term view as you have over the past 30 years, stop and think, how good have your elected leaders really been? Maybe is time to think, and act, radically differently.
By Chris Salzmann
June 11, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Here’s a couple of questions where marking “YES” will mark you as a “Liberal”
1)Do you favor inspecting all shipping containers arriving from foreign destinations?
2)Do you believe that senators should be held accountable for legislation that they have voted for?
Now you would think that checking containers for terrorist weapons/WMD’s would be a conservative position but according to this journal, its anti-business. Business always takes precedence to National Security.
Also, accountability is never a good thing for “conservatives”. God forbid we hold our senators accountable.
By zeke
June 11, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
RIGHT ON, JIM! If the American voters do not wake up and smell the stench of leftist liberals that they elect, the USA will cease to exist as world leader and will fall to just another used to be!! This goes for all democrat liberals, leftist, marxist, communist, fascists, progressives(the new code word trying to hide their true agenda), and, includes the socialist unions, environmental groups, so called civil rights groups, the aclu, the sierra club, the world wildlife fund, the nature conservancy, greenpeace, peta, the trust for public lands and others! NONE OF THESE GROUPS REPRESENTS THE IDEALS SET UP FOR THIS COUNTRY BY OUR FOREFATHERS! INSTEAD THEY REPRESENT THE LEFTIST IDEAL OF SOVIET RUSSIA, CHINA, CUBA, VENEZUELA AND OTHERS!
By Slobama
June 11, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
Obama = Jimmy Carter. Windfall Profits tax, higher marginal rates, naive foreign policy,hypocritical moralistic lectures deep suspicion of America, weak and unproven character. Jimmy was a feeble hairless weenie. Obama is a new version of the same thing.
By Janine
June 11, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
Why do so many male news commentators call Obama “good-looking?” The first time I saw this guy I thought he was a cadaver somebody sprung from the local med-school.
When is the Democrat party going to run a real man as a candidate? I’m waiting for someone who’s got a full set. Now, don’t say Hillary was the man candidate because she’s just frontin’ as a man. In real life she’s a freak just like Bill.
AND NOW thirteen percent of the electorate that thinks it put this candidate into the race - and everyone else must be a racist. How mind-numbingly, not-playing-with-a-full-deck, edumacated-in-Clayton County hilarious is that.
You won’t even carry the South.
By John Doe
June 11, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
I don’t trust any of the people “representing” us in Washington to actually represent us. They go to the highest bidder in order to keep power. I vote on both sides. My concern is that these jerks will continue to pile up the national debt and by the time my kids (6 year old twins) are my age 50% of the federal budget will go to paying for the debt. Guess what, we’re going to have to pay more in taxes and/or reduce spending A LOT.
By Ken
June 11, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
Hey, I have an idea for “change”. Let’s tax ourselves into prosperity. I realize that this has never worked before in history, but we need to do something quick so maybe it’s worth a try - GEEEZ!!! Some people don’t understand that corporations DON’T pay taxes - their customers (yes, us poor slobs) pay all of them. Wall Street and us IRA owners wouldn’t stand for a company to not make a profit just to pay for more taxes. And those “rich” people that are getting these nice tax breaks include people, like me, who make over $40K per year. I sure don’t consider myself rich, but I guess that Obama thinks that I shouldn’t be able to have a vacation or buy myself that big screen that I’d like. Wake Up People!!! This class warfare, “Tax Somebody So I’ll Feel Better” stuff hurts us all. The money goes to our tax-and-spend congress, they spend billions hiring more bureaucrats to administer programs to give ten cents on the dollar to their favorite cronies who promise to make us energy independent. I’d rather let the oil companies keep their money to drill more wells and find more oil so the actual price of gas goes down. More taxes that I end up paying anyway won’t do a darned thing to make my pain at the gas pump go away.
By Doing the Math
June 11, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten, did you buy a ticket for the Bush ride we’re on now? Those of you who did, paid with borrowed money, and forced the rest of us to borrow money and join you on the ride. Now we’re all in debt the most scurrilous of loan sharks, yielding negative ROI, and as Dave Ramsey would say: YOU COULDN’T AFFORD IT.
Hope you like rice & beans.
By Mike
June 11, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
These conservatives are so scared of those darn evil liberals that they blame for everything! perhaps they are to scatred to look in the mirror at what over 10 years of Rethug rule has brought? Funny how they expect the Dems to fix all their errors in 1 year or so despite their filibusters, vetos and threats of vetoes. What are you afraid of?
Will Obama start some wars? Will the economy go to h3ll? Will gasoline suddenly cost four bucks a gallon, Oh, wait, no — that’s what conservatism has wrought. So what big, scary menace will “liberalism” rain down upon us all? The horror of free public education? The apocalypse of affordable healthcare for families and the elderly? An energy policy that consists of something other than ruining the planet? Aw shucks, maybe we’ll have a foreign policy that doesn’t revolve around sucking thousands of dollars out of your constituents’ pockets, lighting all that money on fire, and using the pyre to make super-special Democracy Smores in the middle of the Iraqi desert?
Are you afraid less American soldiers will die? That our trade deficit will be, if not reversed, at least addressed? Are people all huddled in their closets, lest some of the now-legions of outsourced jobs start reappearing in their towns? What? What is it that is so absolutely alarming about the word “liberal” besides your irrational fear & hate cultivated by talk radio that you’d rather stomach having everything that’s happened to America for the past decade continue? Go ahead be an idiot and vote for McSame and agaisnt your self interest.
By John Doe
June 11, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
I don’t trust any of the people “representing” us in Washington to actually represent us. They go to the highest bidder in order to keep power. I vote on both sides. My concern is that these jerks will continue to pile up the national debt and by the time my kids (6 year old twins) are my age 50% of the federal budget will go to paying for the debt. Guess what, we’re going to have to pay more in taxes and/or reduce spending A LOT.
By BOO-HOO
June 11, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
I PLAN TO VOTE FOR SENATOR OBAMA IF THERE ARE NO SUPPRISES AT THE CONVENTION AND HE DOES NOT SELECT HILARY TO BE HIS RUNNING MATE BUT I HAVE A SINKING FEELING THAT SENATOR McCAIN WILL WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION. I HAVE NOTHING TO BACK THIS UP IT’S JUST A OVERALL FEELING THAT I HAVE.
IF HILARY DOES RUN AS VP THEN I WILL EITHER VOTE FOR SENATOR McCAIN OR NOT AT ALL.
By Mike
June 11, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
These conservatives are so scared of those darn evil liberals that they blame for everything! perhaps they are to scatred to look in the mirror at what over 10 years of Rethug rule has brought? Funny how they expect the Dems to fix all their errors in 1 year or so despite their filibusters, vetos and threats of vetoes. What are you afraid of?
Will Obama start some wars? Will the economy go to h3ll? Will gasoline suddenly cost four bucks a gallon, Oh, wait, no — that’s what conservatism has wrought. So what big, scary menace will “liberalism” rain down upon us all? The horror of free public education? The apocalypse of affordable healthcare for families and the elderly? An energy policy that consists of something other than ruining the planet? Aw shucks, maybe we’ll have a foreign policy that doesn’t revolve around sucking thousands of dollars out of your constituents’ pockets, lighting all that money on fire, and using the pyre to make super-special Democracy Smores in the middle of the Iraqi desert?
Are you afraid less American soldiers will die? That our trade deficit will be, if not reversed, at least addressed? Are people all huddled in their closets, lest some of the now-legions of outsourced jobs start reappearing in their towns? What? What is it that is so absolutely alarming about the word “liberal” besides your irrational fear & hate cultivated by talk radio that you’d rather stomach having everything that’s happened to America for the past decade continue? Go ahead be an idiot and vote for McSame and agaisnt your self interest.
By votechange
June 11, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Obama maybe a “freshman” senator but the fact that he defeated a very powerful political machine in the Clinton should give all of us some sort of intelligent insight to the sort of presidency he will have. Obama will have a presidency that will be unlike this country has ever seen since her inception back in the 18th century.
the republicans would like to scare you with the talk of more taxes MORE TAXES but they arent offering many solutions on how to get this country moving forward and out of this Bush induced slump.
over the past 7 years Bush has forced us to drink posioned kool aid in thinking that a terroists attack was but a minute away and that married gay couple would over run the government and that tax cuts would help stimulate the economy. funny the government is as her people to stimulate the economy while she taxes the samemoney and essentially pours it down a black hole.
Republicans need to admit that when they had the keys to the government they messed things up plain and simple they had almost 8 full years to do a much better job then they are doing now.
Republicans fear Obama and thus they want clear minded people to feel the same way BUT if Obama was to lose the general election his “movement” will help usher in dozens more newly minted “conservative” Democrats into office. Change is coming whether Obama is the next president or not.
So if i were Obama i would begin to question HOW McCain would be able to inact some of his very conservative plans unless he is willing to be pi-partisan. then he will simply be keeping the seat warm for hillary in 2012. lose-lose situation for republicans
By Dutchman
June 11, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Jason,
Do you really expect the Government to be that efficient? Can you give me any example where the government does things better than a private firm?
Heath care in this country is not efficient as it is now. It is great health care, but efficiency is not its strong suit.
It wasn’t that long ago, that you filed for reimbursement of your medical costs directly to your insurer. It was the cost of having insurance in a time when most didn’t. I would hazard a guess that the cost of medical insurance also pays for the coverage of the so called “free” programs the government pays for. Including covering the costs of all the required paper work for whichever entity demands it.
Anytime you tax a company, that cost is passed on to the consumer, whether it is at the gas pump or the airline ticket. Increasing the Corporate tax rate, as BHO wants would result in an additional tax on the working man. Rolling back the Bush tax cuts will increase the tax burden on the working man. Rolling back the marriage tax will be a burden on married working folks.
But, go ahead and raise taxes, remember 1994 and Newt?
Remember what happened with James Cater and taxes?
Remember what happened when Bush Sr. raise taxes?
Liberals - some one that knows exactly where God went wrong.
By The good side
June 11, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
When the majority of the country is doing well then all of the country will prosper. ( The Clinton years)
It is o.k. to diagree with Mr. Abama but not one of you has gone thru his voting record to see how he actually works. It really is ashame how spiteful Americans are! SO what if someone is a liberal or conservative just do the best job!
A native american talking about WELFARE interesting!
Women talking about Mrs. Clinton who choose( That’s decision making) people to run her campaign and they were not smart enough to cover all bases.
This presidential race has truly shown that we as Americans need to grow and start taking matters into our own hands and not relie on the Government for anything!
No knows about why we are in Iraq and no one should try to justify the occupation of another country. Especially since we are not getting any oil from their! Why are we paying for all their reconstruction?
Please Mr. Dusty,common sense and republican supporters tell me why we are spending our money to reconstruct thier country while 1 millions home go to foreclosure!
By Tell The WHOLE Truth
June 11, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
A bit of context here: National Journal used 99 Senate votes in 2007 as the basis for its rankings, and because he was on the presidential campaign trail, Obama missed a third of those votes. (According to the magazine, Obama voted the liberal way 65 out of 66 votes. Clinton, meanwhile, voted the liberal way in 77 out of her 82 votes).
National Journal’s vote ratings became an issue in the 2004 general election, when Republicans used the magazine’s ranking of John Kerry as the most liberal senator of 2003 to label the then-Democratic nominee as the “most liberal senator” — even though that was his rating for just that one year, when (like Obama did) he missed quite a few Senate votes due to being on the presidential campaign trail.
As National Journal’s editor wrote back then, “[O]ur magazine — or, more precisely, our annual congressional vote ratings edition — has become a Republican talking point in the 2004 presidential campaign. And that’s been a fascinating, and disconcerting, experience. Fascinating because we’re more used to being cited in congressional hearings than on the Today show. Disconcerting because the shorthand used to describe our ratings of Kerry and Edwards is sometimes misleading — or just plain wrong.”
Indeed, while Obama ranks as the magazine’s most liberal senator of 2007, his ranking was 16th in 2005 and 10th in 2006.
AND THE REPUBLICAN SMEAR MACHINE IS OFF AND RUNNING!
By Michael
June 11, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
The Democrats equate “demonizing” someone to calling them a liberal? Does this mean they admit they work for the devil? Wow!
By Lily Toad
June 11, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
Of course taxes will eventually go up. How else will we pay down the enormous debt? Either we bite the bullet and do it now or successive generations will be paying for Iraq for 100 years, whether we’re still there or not.
By John Doe
June 11, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
I don’t trust any of the people “representing” us in Washington to actually represent us. They go to the highest bidder in order to keep power. I vote on both sides. My concern is that these jerks will continue to pile up the national debt and by the time my kids (6 year old twins) are my age 50% of the federal budget will go to paying for the debt. Guess what, we’re going to have to pay more in taxes and/or reduce spending A LOT.
By Free KY with each fillup
June 11, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
Boy, Big Oil has us just where they want us—“over a barrel!” If you want to go somewhere your choices are: bend over or stay home! I heat my home with wood. But I can’t seem to get a log into my gas tank. That’s the real problem—at present there are no alternatives to oil. What to do? Hand me that KY will ya!
Some idiot named Jimmy warned us over 30 years ago. But, oil came back down and everybody just blew it off and forgot about it. Brazil, however, didn’t blow it off and now they are energy independent.
The right says “drill here, drill there, drill everywhere” and things will be alright again. The US uses 20 million barrels of oil per day. A sizeable chunk of the 85 million barrels per day the world produces. Even the most optimistic estimates put the ANWR oil at 1.2 million barrels per day. But, guess what? The oil companies would essentially have to build a NEW Alaskan pipeline because the old one is in such disrepair.
Reagan, the penultimate Republiconservative, ran up more debt during his presidency than ALL of the previous presidents combined. And W has followed suit so that we are now $9 trillion in debt. And, it is projected that if McCain is elected that number will go to $12.5 trillion. In 2007 we paid $406 billion in INTEREST PAYMENTS ALONE on this debt. This is equal to ALL OF THE TAXES COLLECTED WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER!!!! Think about what could have done with $406 billion.
The above is just what the US govt owes. Forget about the giant trade deficits that we have with most of the rest of the world. Basically, we just print little pieces of paper with green ink on them. Unfortunately, the little pieces of paper are what the world uses to buy oil with.
So, for now, I have laid in a good stock of KY!
By Ira Vaxman
June 11, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
Can we afford one more war? Can we afford spiraling cost of oil that chips real income away? Can we afford to lower taxes for our great and “patriotic” oil companies? If the answer is yes then vote republican. God bless you all.
By Vir
June 11, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
Barack Obama is not “the most liberal senator.” First of all, that rank only applies to 2007. He was much lower-ranked in 2005 and 2006. He missed most of the strongly-supported bipartisan bills in 2007 due to his presidential campaign, so he only showed up to the ones where his support was needed by Democrats. They tried this with Kerry too, in 2004. Enough with the lies.
By Copyleft
June 11, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
Dutchman: Wow, so now GOD is setting Republican tax policies? And it’s a SIN to change them?
Nifty little world you live in. Unfortunately, the rest of us back in reality are itching to swear in President Obama and starting fixing the mess you psychos created.
By BFKaJ
June 11, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
Dear Phil @ 10:30, you misapprehend Jim Wooten’s argument, because he has two elements to the argument. (1) Obama is a leftist, which argument I perceive you accept, at least for the sake of the argument, and (2) Obama is a deceiver, who hides his leftist positions and falsely claims a desire to cross the “partisan” divide. The second argument seemingly causes you distress in your demand that Mr. Wooten cite, “a factory-issue rightist who is as partisan as they come in Washington. There’s a real disconnect between the talk and the walk.”
Unlike leftists, conservatives have no need to hide our beliefs. We are proud to be conservative, as our intellectual cornerstone – freedom for each – is both attractive to the American public and easily defended as a philosophical basis for our small government philosophy. Further, most conservatives find little reason to magnify a desire to compromise our principles. Unlike democrats, who for the sake of electability have to suggest that their principles are mutable, conservatives rarely magnify a capacity to work with those who praise the virtues of big government.
Thus the problem with the citation you seek; a conservative who talks the talk and walks the walk is inherently anti-leftist. Any non-partisan conservative cannot theoretically talk the talk and walk the walk.
By The Truth
June 11, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
For the life of me, i cannot understand how anybody not making atleast $250,000/yr. can be a republican. They screw the little guy. Their talk on low taxes is for the rich ONLY! They are far more corrupt than Dems. Do you people need a list of indicted reps to show you that the GOP stand ONLY for Corporate interests, the rich and themselves. It amazes me to no end how myopic (or perhaps dillusional, or perhaps ignorant, or perhaps unintelligent) you cons are.
By Levi
June 11, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
I find it hilarious that some one would call McCain “McKlan”. He has adopted children from different races and loved them as his own. I am not even a McCain supporter and I know that. The thing that scares me most about Obama is I believe he is a racist. There is no way he could sit in that racist church for 20 years and not know. If McCain went to klan rallies for over a decade would we believe him if he said he didnt know they were preaching hatred? The other scary thing about Obama is he has no experiece with foreign policy. Remember “he wouldnt rule out nuking Pakistan”. I am amazed at how quickly the press and his supporters forget the crazy things he says. He has no idea about the economy and policy. When you mention this to a democrat they say he will surround himself with people who understand those issues……hello thats the same crazy thing that Bush said….we see how well that worked out. Unfortunately the Republican candidates that were good cannibalized each other and we are left with McCain, and the Democrat party machine tanked Clinton so we are left with Obama……either way we are actually going to need congress to survive the one term Presidency that either one of them is going to end up with. So please actually study up on the Congressional races.
By The Truth
June 11, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
For the life of me, i cannot understand how anybody not making atleast $250,000/yr. can be a republican. They screw the little guy. Their talk on low taxes is for the rich ONLY! They are far more corrupt than Dems. Do you people need a list of indicted reps to show you that the GOP stand ONLY for Corporate interests, the rich and themselves. It amazes me to no end how myopic (or perhaps dillusional, or perhaps ignorant, or perhaps unintelligent) you cons are. And DO NOT bring God into this. Religion has NO PLACE in politics.
By Dutchman
June 11, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this
Copyleft,
Thanks for proving my point - lefties are not rational folks and exist in their own little world. Reality to you is what you can get from someone else and not on your own. Your are either weak or lazy - your choice.
Main Entry: 1lib·er·al Listen to the pronunciation of 1liberal Pronunciation: \ˈli-b(ə-)rəl\ Function: adjective
1)some one that knows exactly where God went wrong.
By The Truth
June 11, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
For the life of me, i cannot understand how anybody not making atleast $250,000/yr. can be a republican. They screw the little guy. Their talk on low taxes is for the rich ONLY! They are far more corrupt than Dems. Do you people need a list of indicted reps to show you that the GOP stand ONLY for Corporate interests, the rich and themselves. It amazes me to no end how myopic (or perhaps dillusional, or perhaps ignorant, or perhaps unintelligent) you cons are. And DO NOT bring God into this. Religion has NO PLACE in politics.
By El Diablo
June 11, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this
I’d vote for the devil himself if he was running against a Republican, it would be a step up! me and my family can not afford to support those poor, poor, rich people for another 4 years.
By Jilly
June 11, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
I sorta liked Obama ….in fact I voted for him in our primary….UNTIL I heard Jeremiah Wright and then started looking into Obama’s actions (or lack of actions) and own words when he wasn’t reading a speech tailored by someone else.
No thanks. He’s the opposite of what I thought - not to mention naive and extremely inexperienced.
By Joe
June 11, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Mc Cain, Republicans, and this author are twisting Obama’s words, or have very low English comprehension (how can we trust these people to run the country ?).
It has been repeatedly mentioned that those who will be taxed under Obama’s presidency are those with above middle-class income, and he even noted this at a CNN interview. He will actually increase his own tax, and CNN’s Wolf Blitzer’s as well. The idea is that they and their income class can afford to have more taxes and won’t feel it.
This has been conveniently left out by Mc Cain, does he think Americans are stupid ? He has no respect for American intelligence. How can Americans vote for someone insulting their intelligence ? Independents, non-fanatic Republicans, don’t be fooled.
By guuggysdad
June 11, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
New Zealand or bust!
Both these clowns should catch a bullet!
By Larryg
June 11, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
Jim: You need to remind the mindless liberals who blame Bush for every ill that Al qaeda is about gone in Iraq, and will soon be gone in Afghanistan. And, that Pelosi, the little nitwit speaker, promised to do something about the high $2.50 gas prices when the inepts took over the Congress. Another liberal failure that they overlook. You’re right about Obama, we cannot afford to have him destroy the economy by mindlessly raising taxes. Worse, he wants to disarm our military. A real loser, but he’s black, so the guilty, politically corrrect liberals will vote for him anyway. Pathetic!
By The good side
June 11, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
By the truth! If you wan to use your conscience for fairness, treating people with respect and loving your fellow human beings then GOD always has a place.
Janine why can’t you admit Mrs. Clinton ran a dumd campaign! Just like the number of Delegates count the same goes for the Presidential race. Electoral votes whoever acquires 270 electoral votes will become the president.
Your candidate did not have enough intellect nor her staff to prepare for acquiring the most delegates.
Stop hating and switch to Mr. Obama
By Question
June 11, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
What I want to know is who is behind Obama? How did a freshman senator get where he is with a strategy that beat the Clinton juggernaut of organization, funds, and experience? Obama sure didn’t do this.
Someone is buying a president.
By Glynn
June 11, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
To put it simply, if you have an employee whose performance has been terrible, you fire them. Republican stewardship of the country has been a disaster. Elected officials are no more than employees of the electorate, and candidates are merely job applicants. We gave the Republicans a second chance in 2004. We can’t afford to give them a third.
By hillbilly ragger
June 11, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
KY @ 11.22, yep, Some idiot named Jimmy warned us over 30 years ago.
Indeed he did. And for all the caterwauling from the right wing about what a terrible, terrible President Jimmy Carter was, oddly enough, this Rassmussen poll has him seen by Americans today with a 57% approval rating.
So by all means, McCain, go on claiming that Obama would represent “Carter’s second term.” That’s looking pretty good to us these days.
By jcwhitingjr
June 11, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
The democrats had this election in the bag because of the actions of the liberal media’s slander in order to disgrace the current administration and the best they can do is Obama? Might as well give the keys of the White House to Hugo Chavez!
Americans don’t want a racist, leftist, anti-American socialist in the Oval Office.
By Curt Gill
June 11, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
You’re a hack. Nothing more, nothing less.
By Kara
June 11, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
www.35articles.com Wake up people. Our constitution has been raped while we all just sat by and let this administration take our rights from us. This is not a democrat/republican issue - this is a reflection of a single administrations greed. I don’t know if anyone can fix this debacle.
By Kara
June 11, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
www.35articles.com Wake up people. Our constitution has been raped while we all just sat by and let this administration take our rights from us. This is not a democrat/republican issue - this is a reflection of a single administrations greed. I don’t know if anyone can fix this debacle.
By Kara
June 11, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
www.35articles.com Wake up people. Our Constitution has been raped while we all just sat by and let this administration take our rights from us. This is not a democrat/republican issue - this is a reflection of a single administrations greed. I don’t know if anyone can fix this debacle.
By hillbilly ragger
June 11, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
Question, like a lot of Republicans who are shocked, shocked, that Hillary Clinton’s “juggernaut of organization” could be beaten by an upstart, you just haven’t been paying attention.
It’s nothing all that unusual; Obama had a great ground game. He knew from twenty years of street level politics in Chicago how to organize a team, and being an attractive, articulate (and yes, Senator Biden, “clean”) candidate put him in a unique position to press for a new dialogue.
Also, Clinton didn’t have a Plan B in case they lost any of the early primaries. Lose they did, and they never, ever really got their groove back.
Besides Clinton, the only serious contender was Edwards, and while his populist message played pretty well, it just wasn’t as appealing as Obama’s.
So there you have it.
Now, can you tell me how the hell a flip-flopping, unattractive, inarticulate boob like McCain wound up being the Last Man Standing? Now that’s a mystery to me.
By Change NOW
June 11, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
I think we should all be ignorant, get drunk and vote for more war, all get drafted….and impose our christian ideals on the rest of the world…economy doesn’t matter anyway…..we should definitely continue our overseas utopian social engineering experiement because it it working so well…whatever the case, let’s build some permanent bases in iraq and stay there for 100 years…while we are waiting, let’s continue bombing innocent civilians in afghanistan and pakistan (our allies)…I heard this really supports our cause!!!!!! also, in the meantime, let’s stop all green energy, destroy the arctic….not subsidize any wind farms like mccains state legislature, (the only state which doesn’t support equal treatment for green energy)….and let’s not tax record windfall profits on oil companies owned by bush/cheney…bush has REALLY helped all americans…..he couldn’t care MORE about ordinary Americans….bush III will be even MORE exciting…..shriveled up senile, psychological issue having and anger control problem having, bitter old white man represents REAL patriotic America!!!!!
mcbush ‘08
By jayvee
June 11, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
After 7-plus years of lies and bloodshed and reckless, unprecedented waste, cronyism and spending, this Mo-Ron has the temerity to criticize someone with ethics, someone who could improve our lot immediately, someone who could make us proud of our country again. Do the hard-right haters remind y’all of anyone? How about smug stiffs who comprise the Soviet Politboro, who always lovedthe party more than the county. The people on the right love their party — the party of perpetual hate, distortion and attack — more than they love their county. They’re march toward extinction is hastening.
By tom
June 11, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
ive heard alot of dems blaming the republicans for gas prices when actually they have it all wrong its the dems who have been refusing to help ease our pain at the pump, i think people should learn facts before they write there opinion,
the house voted on oil bills last week and these are the acutal results, you are more then welcome to go look them up for yourself
facts on how the house voted last week
DRILLING IN ANWAR 91% OF REPUBLICANS SUPPORTED IT 86% OF DEMOCRATS OPPOSED IT
COAL TO LIQUIDS 97% OF REPUBLICANS SUPPORTED IT 78% OF DEMOCRATS OPPOSED IT
OIL SHALE EXPLORATION 90% OR REPUBLICANS SUPPORT IT 86% PERCENT OF DEMOCRATS OPPOSED IT
DRILLING ON OUTER CONTINENTAL SHELF 81% OF REPUBLICANS SUPPORT IT 83% OF DEMOCRATS OPPOSED IT
INCREASED REFINERY COMPASITY 97% OF REPUBLICANS SUPPORTED IT 96% OF DEMOCRATS OPPOSED IT
GAS PRICES HAVE GONE UP 71% SINCE NANCY PELOSI AND THEM DEMS HAVE TAKEN CONTROL OF CONGRESS
all this said and these are FACTS i do believe the dems are right when hey say we need to find other sources of energy besides oil, but they are the ones who are stopping any kind of temporary relief at this time,
By Maniac is accurate
June 11, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
There’s a headline on AJC.com which states: 700-lb. man wants to wed standing.
But only because he wants to honeymoon lying down.
By Copyleft
June 11, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
Whiting: Americans don’t want a racist, leftist, anti-American socialist in the Oval Office.
True… good thing they’re going to get Obama instead. We’ve had quite enough of racist, anti-American fascists in the Oval Office. Time for a liberal to restore some sanity.
By sellars
June 11, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
no one who voted for george bush in 2004 has any right to put down any other president, for any reason. this guy has been horrible, he has managed to hurt our country more than osama was able to. his greedy selfish ignorant actions that have hurt so many american families can be honestly viewed as acts treason.
By SeekTheTruth
June 11, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
PLEASE READ DAS KAPITAL, MEIN KAMPF AND AUDACITY OF DOPE AND APPLY IT TO OBAMA BIN LYIN.
EQUALITY AT THE EXPENSE OF LIBERTY IS COMMUNISM.
Equate the following:
Christian= Rev. Wright white hate
Economy= Marxist redistribution
New Way= Rezko, Johnson, lawyers
Diplomacy= Total Inexperience
By Moderator Maude
June 11, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this
Wow. When I first read the boss’ post this morning, I thought it was kind of a stinker. But it looks like we may reach an all-time high. As an employee my post will not count in the official tally. So, when you all start scrambling to be No. 400, remember it’s actually No. 401 you want. Frenzy on Thinking Right fans.
By Sharky McSharkerson
June 11, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
I’m smelling a little blood in the water. It might be a good day for Father Confessor to make an appearance.
Or then again, it might not.
By SeekTheTruth
June 11, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
PLEASE READ DAS KAPITAL, MEIN KAMPF AND AUDACITY OF DOPE AND APPLY IT TO OBAMA BIN LYIN.
OBAMA TELLS US HE’S A MARXIST IN HIS BOOK.
Equate the following:
Christian= Rev. Wright white hate
Economy= Marxist redistribution
New Way= Rezko, Johnson, lawyers
Diplomacy= Troubling Inexperience
EQUALITY AT THE EXPENSE OF LIBERTY IS COMMUNISM.
By BFKaJ
June 11, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
Dear Mike @ 10:59, it is true that conservatives are distressed at the big government tendencies of leftists. Our concern is more due to the leftist disconnect with reality than with the pretty words spoken by leftists. In your post, for example, you ask a series of revealing questions. I provide you intelligent response to each of your bumber stickers, no charge.
“Will Obama start some wars?” While it is also true that Neville Chamberlain never started a war, his naiveté was certainly a contributing factor. We all respect the fact that he was willing to grant concessions in his talks with a despot, in a futile effort to avoid war. My guess is that Obama will not start a war, but will place the country in a position where we surrender or fight.
“Will the economy go to h3ll?” I suppose that is technically a function of the morons now running Congress. The largest tax increase in the history of the world now shadows the economy, because the leftists refuse to renew the “Bush” tax cuts. Leftists always believe tax increases make the economy stronger, but of course that view is error. Government spending decreases make the economy stronger, but that is the one course no democrat will pursue.
“The horror of free public education?” The horror, of course, is that parents have no choice. Leftists always seek to forbid individuals from exercising free choice. If we ever hear of leftists favoring vouchers, we will know they have given up their dictatorial tendencies.
“The apocalypse of affordable healthcare for families and the elderly?” The leftists comically suggest they will make healthcare “affordable.” There are only two ways leftists make healthcare affordable: (1) constricting freedom to select practitioners, and/or (2) compelling individuals to serve the state. Certainly we all want leftists deciding who lives and who dies, and how much private wealth will be wasted in an effort to repeal nature’s 100% death rate. Any intelligent person knows that a true free market would do more to rein in healthcare expenses, but leftists impose government mandates and subsidize the insurance companies, to prevent free market principles from taking hold.
“Are you afraid less American soldiers will die?” No, we are not afraid FEWER American soldiers will die, we are afraid more American civilians will die. Only brainless leftists, with terrorism shrinking, would hand Islamists an unearned victory through an unforced error (“cut and run.”)
“That our trade deficit will be, if not reversed, at least addressed?” Nobody ever said leftist had even a tenuous grasp on economics, but let me make it easy for you. A “trade deficit” is good, a “trade surplus” is bad. The former is evidence of a powerful domestic economy and the efficiencies of free trade; the latter is evidence of economic contraction. Bill Clinton had only two beneficial economic policies: (1) NAFTA, the engine that drove the private economy in the late 1990s, and (2) doing totally nothing with government (the absence of new government regulations allowed the economy to thrive.) Note that Obama opposes both of the sound Clinton economic policies.
But leftists promise to cripple the economy with constrictions to cure the “global warming” non-problem. That’s something to warm the cockles of your heart as you starve in the cold.
By JOYCE
June 11, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
Way to go “Kim”, “thogwummpy”, “Spare me”, “Bill Badman”, “Common Sense” and all the rest of you observing thinkers who know Obama is not the right man to lead this country now. Pray more Americans will check out the truths and our country will survive. An old vet who cares.
By Willie
June 11, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
I cannnot believe the guy who called McCain “McKlan” that is an unfair and racist comment.
What if someone called Obama “Oni**er” you would be calling Jesse to form a march of somekind.
All of this name calling is getting OLD real quick! I am an undecided voter who it really turns OFF.
I want to hear some of Obama and McCains stand on the issues. I have heard some from McCain but I hear from Obama is “Bush III” and the “McSame” I want him to tell me what he is going to do! I am getting tired of him just trying to associate McC with Bush. He is not going to change many minds with the name calling. I am leaning toward Barr at this point.
By SeekTheTruth
June 11, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
PLEASE READ DAS KAPITAL, MEIN KAMPF AND AUDACITY OF DOPE AND APPLY IT TO OBAMA BIN LYIN.
OBAMA TELLS US HE’S A MARXIST IN HIS BOOK.
Equate the following:
Christian= Rev. Wright white hate
Economy= Marxist redistribution
New Way= Rezko, Johnson, lawyers
Diplomacy= Troubling Inexperience
EQUALITY AT THE EXPENSE OF LIBERTY IS COMMUNISM.
By State of Affairs
June 11, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
Do all you Obama supporters agree with Jeremiah Wright? Personally, I found that hatred and the bilious distortions impossible to listen to more than once - let alone 20 years. This is the church Obama went to with his kids!
It’s really sickening to see how many here take their safety for granted after 9/11. We took the war to a location of our choosing - which wasn’t the streets of NY or the malls of America, or the mountains of Afghanistan that defeated the soviets.
Personally I see the federal government’s duty as protecting us so that we can pursue life liberty and happiness, not guarantee that my mortgage is paid or that no one ever offends me.
The Democrats had to trash W - otherwise they feared becoming insignificant. So the war they voted for, the conditions that lead up to war that they agreed with time after time, and there are many quotes and votes to prove this, became something they actively campaigned against and fortunately for them the media doesn’t call them on it much.
One thing is obvious - the USA that we now have would never have won WWII.
By Marke The Thinking Right Makeup Guy
June 11, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
In a couple of weeks you may notice Jim Wooten’s picture at the top of the blog getting a little shiny by the end of the day. The AJC is laying me off. People don’t realize I have to be here early to get him ready to take his perch up there and touch him up no fewer than four times during the day. Times are tough and it’s going to get ugly.
By ###
June 11, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Jim, please give us some anecdotal evidence of how Senator Obama is “as partisan as they come.”
By R. Elliot
June 11, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
“…me and my family can not afford to support those poor, poor, rich people for another 4 years.”
OK - But can you afford to pay 17% in health care and social security taxes on top of regular taxes.
This is not an issue of rich v poor, or black v white. Congress has done more to destroy our budget than any sitting president. Congress has led us down the path of promising benefits that we cannot afford. We need LESS GOVERNMENT which mean fewer benefits to the people. The people need to stand on their own two feet.
Tax the so called rich (people that are working hard to earn rewards) and they will stop working hard - why pay 70% to the government? Settle on being middle class and then who will BO tax then? Tax the big corporations - they will move off shore.
The so called rich will support hirer taxes as long as it is not class warfare - or to support those who spend money to go to Nascar or Disney World instead of spending it on insurance (government sponsored or private).
BO wants to make it class warfare … it’s not. Be a strong American and vote out all officials that promise to tax one group of people to give to another. Vote for officials that will tax everyone so that everyone is responsible. No more class warfare rehetoric.
By Tony C.
June 11, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
Somebody show me where either McCain or Obama has an actual plan that even halfway seems to feasibly back-up their campaign promises???
Please.
By putty
June 11, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
George Washington, et al., would not tolerate this lack of reasoning. He might charge treason, and sentence those responsible accordingly.
By Dutchman
June 11, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
By The Truth,
“For the life of me, I cannot understand how anybody not making at least $250,000/yr. can be a republican.”
I’ll answer this way, How can anyone making their own way in life be a Democrat?
I do not make anywhere near $250K a year, and do not expect to, but I am what the lefties call upper middle class. Since the top 25%(my bracket) of the work force pays the majority of the taxes(85%+), guess who is going to get burned - by either candidate. BHO will cost me more in taxes and hurt this economy more than the next President, McCain.
BHO will hurt the working person more than you may realize.
By TiredOfSameOlSameOl
June 11, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
Wooten, you’re a freakin loser. Shame on me for wasting my time reading this garbage.
By Chris
June 11, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
Too Funny for words. Seriously, Wooten didn’t complain when Bush invaded Iraq. Our biggest tax right now is the Iraq war at a price tag of over 1700 dollars per person in the entire US right now.
Why do we have high gas prices? The dollars slump because of the high debt.
Furthermore, don’t believe the hype. Want to know his voting record? Visit votesmart. Want to know his history, http://www.votesmart.org/votingcategory.php?canid=BS030017
Need a history lesson? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
Don’t believe a single article that doesn’t involve facts along with statements. AJC, you have to do BETTER than this.
By getalife
June 11, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
“Barack Obama may have come up with a creative way to solve the housing recession: Let everyone buy property at a discount the way he did from Tony Rezko, and give everyone in America a discount mortgage the way Angelo Mozilo of Countrywide did for Fannie Mae’s Jim Johnson. Team Obama’s real estate and mortgage transactions are certainly a change from business as usual. They suggest old-fashioned back-scratching below even current Beltway standards.”
Ah, corrupt kool aid vs corrupt b****** express.
Politics as usual.
By deegee
June 11, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
Screaming about raising the income tax certainly does distract attention from the issue of dwindling state tax coffers. You think the bad economy is affecting only personal bank accounts? I would bet that every state governor in the country is contemplating how they are going to slip in a tax increase. The valuation on my home jumped $15K this year so I will certainly be paying more in property tax. Thanks to the first POTUS with a Harvard MBA we can all enjoy a long hot summer of discontent.
By socorro
June 11, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
I think Boren is the first but not the last in no support Obama, we have the experience with Busch, no track record, same is happening with Obama, he is elocuent,we have to agreed with that, but other than that no body can said what he has done, Democratic party been sexis, are they are pick him and superdelegates show him as the candidate, but what about popular vote.
By Normal guy
June 11, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
If your family’s total income is over ~$50,000, welcome to Obama’s version of “the rich”. Prepare to pay a lot more in taxes if he is elected.
Again in ‘08, it’s time to pick the best of all the bad candidates. McCain presents the smallest threat of screwing with our lives.
By johnb
June 11, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this
It’s funny to see how “bipartisan” Obama and his supporters are. These visceral and mean spirited attack hounds are already purging their own ranks, what makes anyone think they’d be any more civil towards independents or to the GOOP’ers? This is one independent voter who went with Clinton in the primary that will be going with McCain in the fall, no matter how many times Obama’s cult members spell his name McKlan. Hate is not a family value and the Obama camp really needs to tone theirs down.
By Bill Beahan
June 11, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
The question is - Are there enough stupid voters in this country to elect a President B. Hussein Obama who hates his country the way he and his friends obviously do? Based upon the above stupid Dumbocrat comments I fear there may well be.
By Smoky Bear
June 11, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
Only you … can waste your time reading this blog.
Personal responsibility, TireOfSameOlSameOl, embrace it, love it, live it.
And, if you can’t do that, well, then shove it.
By Dutchman
June 11, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
deegee,
You must live in Fulton or DeKalb, the rest of us face a much less hit on property taxes. I guess it is just the lefties counties that are seeing that big increase.
By Wake Up America!
June 11, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this
Two Words for ya-JIMMY CARTER! Obama is going back to the tax and spend and redistribute methods of Mimmy. Higher interest rates, higher unemployment (but more to pay the unemployed)-who cares if the wealthy have to lay off the middle and lower class becasue they were over taxed. Who cares if ATT sends 20,000 brothers to the unemployment line because the Indians (not cleveland) in bombay received them. You think it is bad now? Just wait till your credit card interest goes to 30%. buy a car and pay 16% interest. Oh and taxocrats don’t want to disturb the blue hairs in FLA with drilling off shore that would obstruct their view of the ocean, so they’ll only increase the social security taxes to pay for the unemployment that will go to 11%+. America will be an African nation, with French healthcare (pathetic) and Muslim ruled. Why do you think the taxocrats want to raise taxes? So they can live in costa Rica while the rest of you Jim Jones Kool Aid drinkers are forced into slavery. Yes-That kind of change. I pledge allegiance to Obama, and the Islamic Republic of Iran, and to Khomeinifor which he stands, one nation, under Mohammed, with freedom and reparations for all that are Black!
By Wake Up America!
June 11, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
Two Words for ya-JIMMY CARTER! Obama is going back to the tax and spend and redistribute methods of Mimmy. Higher interest rates, higher unemployment (but more to pay the unemployed)-who cares if the wealthy have to lay off the middle and lower class becasue they were over taxed. Who cares if ATT sends 20,000 brothers to the unemployment line because the Indians (not cleveland) in bombay received them. You think it is bad now? Just wait till your credit card interest goes to 30%. buy a car and pay 16% interest. Oh and taxocrats don’t want to disturb the blue hairs in FLA with drilling off shore that would obstruct their view of the ocean, so they’ll only increase the social security taxes to pay for the unemployment that will go to 11%+. America will be an African nation, with French healthcare (pathetic) and Muslim ruled. Why do you think the taxocrats want to raise taxes? So they can live in costa Rica while the rest of you Jim Jones Kool Aid drinkers are forced into slavery. Yes-That kind of change. I pledge allegiance to Obama, and the Islamic Republic of Iran, and to Khomeinifor which he stands, one nation, under Mohammed, with freedom and reparations for all that are Black!
By catlady
June 11, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
Kinda funny, Dutchman. I live in a county so Republican, you almost cannot get a ballot to vote in the Democratic party primary. Literally, they are over in a box and if you say you want one, someone has to GET Up and WALK OVER and GET ONE and BRING IT TO YOU, EYES ROLLING. Yet, our property evaluations have just increased by a factor of 2 or 3 or more! (Mine, “only” 92%; my neighbors, 88% for his house and 300% for his hardscrabble hillside)
In my county THERE ARE NOT EVEN ANY LEFT TURN LANES AT INTERSECTIONS. You have to take your chances to go any way except right or straight ahead!
By El Diablo
June 11, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
ok then , just where the hell is my trickle down check for ExxonMobil? just the name ExxonMobil is indecent, squashing competition that is true capitalism. and in case y’all haven’t noticed, we already have national healthcare and it’s killing the middle class. no one can be turned away from the ER. somebody pays for all that, mainly the middle class, check the almost constant increases in your cost of helathcare. and if national healthcare is so bad, why is it ok for all our congressmen to have such a good healtcare plan? we have national healthcare already, we just need to make it fair and even and only for legal U.S. Citizens, then we could national healthcare at a lower rate than we are paying today. take money away from illegal immigrants and Iraq until we can help every American with healthcare. we deserve it, and if you want to call it socialism, then don’t send your kid to public school, don’t use police and fire services, etc. because those stink of socialism too. our government gives grant money to healthcare and drug companies, that’s right, GRANT money, sounds like an entitlement program to me. then we’re told we have such high healthcare costs because of research and development costs, what a load of crap. besides if that is true, then pass those costs on to anybody else from any other country that wants to anything form our healthcare and drug companies. America first! political parties last.
By Disgusted
June 11, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
What a bunch of junk I’m reading by the Republican boot-lickers.
You think universal health care is going to tax us out of existence? Well, my latest statement shows that my employer-provided health insurance costs $11,000 per year, of which my employer pays $8,500. So how is translating that money into taxes paid by my employer and me going to change the net outlay?
And I love the bogus argument about income taxation. Why shouldn’t those making $200,000 per year pay at a considerably higher rate? What are they going to do? Stop working? Move out of the country? And you can bet that the merchants and corporations will continue to operate if there’s a single penny’s profit to be made.
The current tax cuts for the rich spread the burden around, to the great benefit of the wealthy. Those arguing that they are “higher middle income” are in reality fat cats who want to keep things exactly as they are. They must think we are too blind to see their mansions overlooking the Jack Nicklaus-designed golf courses or the luxury cars they drive.
I’m ready for radical change in this country. We replaced the “tax and spend” Democrats with “borrow and spend” Republicans. Trouble is, we all had it a lot better when the “tax and spend” Clinton administration was in office. For one thing, we had plenty of jobs. For another, we had arrived at a balanced budget, and the dollar was worth something on the world market.
So bring on Obama. He can’t possibly do worse than Bush/McCain, no matter how hard he tries to botch things. And maybe, instead of piling a huge national debt on our children and grandchildren, we can use the annual $200 billion plus to prop up a Shiite dictatorship in Iraq to redevelop our own infrastructure and provide much-needed jobs for Americans.
I see nothing of substance at all in Wooten’s column today—just the same old vague generalities designed to scare the conservative base. If being conservative is what we have now, I’ll take the liberal every time, rather than stay in the current morass.
By The Truth, The Fact
June 11, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this
Sad to say, the vast majority of America will not vote for a black man. Hillary has proven that, McCain will verify it.
Obama is doomed.
By doorknob
June 11, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this
How dare any of you to question the Cult of Conservatism. I’m more Conservative than any of you!!! I’m so Conservative, why I have’nt had an original thought in twenty years
By The good side
June 11, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
Mr. Obama is proposing a tax cut for those who make less than $125,000! That will help the Majority of Americans!
We need to stop with the McClain bashing! McClain is a good man just not the man for the Presidency.
The number one reason Mr. McClain voted to go to war! Nuff Said!
People on the right you know when you make more the 6 figures you will be able to lower tax bracket because you should have some good tax deductions. I do! I will pay my additional taxes any time!
We need to get away from OIL. It is not an infinite resource. GROW-UP and STOP THE HATE!
By Pete
June 11, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
Vilifying liberals has become a mantra of right-wing (and I distinguish here between right-wing and conservative)talk radio and its adherents. However, a reasonable person capable of exercising independent judgement should be some part liberal and some part conservative. There are times when things need to be changed, and times when they need to be left alone.
By catlady
June 11, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
We should be used to it, after 7+ years of our current president.
By John G
June 11, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Obama is an idiot,and McCains crazy
WE SCREWED
By John G
June 11, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Obama is an idiot,and McCains crazy
WERE SCREWED
By catlady
June 11, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
We should be used to it, after 7+ years of our current president.
By bigjoe
June 11, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidatestaxproposalstpc/index.htm?postversion=2008061111
for the real story on cost check this article out. I think a lot of you will come out better under obama. If not congrats on the success in your finances.
By R. TOOL
June 11, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
Mr. Bill Beahan,
Yes, they are so “STUPID”and you’re one of those.
McCain, need a nape every 2 hours. Great grandpa McCain need a rocking chair.
Republican for Obama .. eat that idiot!
Sorry, I have lower myself to your level to talk like Mr. beahan.
Sincerely,
R. TOOL
By bigjoe
June 11, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidatestaxproposalstpc/index.htm?postversion=2008061111
the majority of people will see a reduced tax bill. I am no liberal just look at the numbers and when you factor in iraq it is a no brainer.
By Dutchman
June 11, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
El Diablo,
You ExxonMobile check is in your retirement fund or 401K mutuals. Hey lets tax them more and watch your 401K shrink
By bigjoe
June 11, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
check out the article on the front page of CNN.com today. It is about taxes and has a comparison of the proposed plans for mccain and obama. Most folks will do better under obama.
By Undecided
June 11, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
It never ceases to amaze me. If you want to make a point, make one. Stop calling names, pointing fingers, and thinking everybody is just out to get you. I would seriously consider Obama if anyone was allowed to disagree with his policies. No one, not even newscasters or Obama himself will logically defend his policies with evidence, reason, or fact. The defense shield goes up and all of your ears close the second someone brings up economical theory and logic. Its ridiculous how subjective elections have become because the left’s feelings get hurt and they cry foul to prevent anyone from discrediting their previously tried and failed policies. Don’t kid yourselves, I’m moderate.
By terrell
June 11, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
Won’t work this time, Wooten. Wanna know why? Two words:
IRAQ.
TRILLION.
I think we’re done here.
By sydney
June 11, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
I can’t wait for our utopian society to emerga after Obama is elected. He will guarantee everyone a job and healthcare while turning around the economy. He will bring peace in the middle east, find a cure for cancer and end global warming. I wonder what he will do in his 2nd year after the election??
By nephew Sam
June 11, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
4 reasons why I can’t be a conservative: I love my country too much I do all my own thinking and don’t outsource any of it. I really do believe that science thing is on to something. and I can smell horsecrap a mile away. no president will be perfect, but I would take a thousand Carter’s in a row, before I would take another Bush. at least Jimmy tried and Jimmy truly cared. besides, I can’t think of anybody that would have been able to do an outstanding job as president between 1976 and 1980. it was a very bad time for our country and a lot was changing and a lot needed to be healed from that other defense contractor war. what does the U.S. export today? war. that’s our main export, our main industry is the defense industry, which really should now be called the offense industry. starting wars every 5 to 10 years won’t bring us the booty and swag we desire, only more enemies. it didn’t work for Rome, I see no reason why it should work for us. we need to stay out of other countries business for a while and start focusing on fixing our own broken-down leaking ship.
By Dutchman
June 11, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
From the CNNMoney Web site
McCain The net result: compared with their tax bill today, taxpayers on average would see their tax bill cut by nearly $1,200. That means their after-tax income would rise by 2%.
BHO The net result: compared with their tax bill today, taxpayers on average would see their tax bill cut by nearly $160 under Obama’s plan. That means their after-tax income would rise by 0.3%.
So for the “average” worker which will you want? You know the high paid liberal arts majors
By howard Hoffer
June 11, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
Same old Repugnican diatribe-tax and spend Demos. Meanwhile they demonize the Democratic party for not getting anything done when they threw out so many Republicans, but none mentions that they didn’t have a majority to pass the things that could have helped so many people. Evidence yesterday when they stopped excise profit tax against the oil companies. As usual, they scream that it would cost us more at the pump. Anything to help their oil friends with the status quo! Why doesn’t the so called ‘president’ release oil from the reserve? No way. Because they want drilling off the coasts and Alaska even tho it will be years before it helps the people. So why not cut off imports from the Middle East and try getting our supplies from Canada and Mexico who are our leading suppliers. No, that would be easy and not go into the pockets of the bushs and cheneys. When they get thrown out things will change, hopefully.
By Obama Who?
June 11, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
sydney, I can’t wait either!! Can you imagine universal health care, hey it works in Canada right? Oh, I forgot that Canadians have to wait 6 weeks to get cancer treatment and have half their income taken by gunpoint to finance it, but hey, Obama will fix that I’m sure.
Everyone will have a job, Woo-Hoo.. It’s about time these slackers would get off their butts to pay extraordinarily higher taxes to pay for the health care…
So glad to hear that ole Obama will be reducing his carbon footprint. You will feel it on you a** when he gets elected (Heaven forbid.)
For all you Obama lovers tell me ONE THING HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED AS A SENATOR.. Keep searching google, you won’t find anything…
By howard Hoffer
June 11, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this
Same old Repugnican diatribe-tax and spend Demos. Meanwhile they demonize the Democratic party for not getting anything done when they threw out so many Republicans, but none mentions that they didn’t have a majority to pass the things that could have helped so many people. Evidence yesterday when they stopped excise profit tax against the oil companies. As usual, they scream that it would cost us more at the pump. Anything to help their oil friends with the status quo! Why doesn’t the so called ‘president’ release oil from the reserve? No way. Because they want drilling off the coasts and Alaska even tho it will be years before it helps the people. So why not cut off imports from the Middle East and try getting our supplies from Canada and Mexico who are our leading suppliers. No, that would be easy and not go into the pockets of the bushs and cheneys. When they get thrown out things will change, hopefully.
By El Diablo
June 11, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
oh the stock market that’s our savior, yeah right. look what those greedy speculators who work in collusion have done to everybody. ExxonMobil will only share their money with their Skull and Bones buddies. it’s just plain ignorant for middle class people to be so duped into supporting the rich, and to use God and Patriotism and children to do it is the lowest of low and completely shameful.
By The Real Truth
June 11, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
http://shoe-fly-pie.blogspot.com/2008/02/barack-hussein-obamas-senatorial.html
By Obama Care
June 11, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
Government run health care would be so excellent - so fair. In Oregon the government run health care refused to pay for chemo drugs but so kindly offered to pay for assisted suicide.
Maybe the government should stick to running the post office and the Senate restaurant - oh….yeah…the Senate restaurant is a failure and is being privatized.
By kmart
June 11, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
i’m a republican, and i feel let down by this administration. it’s horrendous
i don’t know if I’ll even vote
By joe
June 11, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
How many American lives have been lost so far in Iraq? How many more should we lose? How many Iraqis dead? How many are enough? Till Iraqis can be able to take care of themselves!! Have you thought about what if they never Can?? Will you stay there for ever? What about the monetary cost? I thought billions meant huge sums, but far and beyond,are we talking trillions!!Iraq sells oil, American a is complaining of the cost of oil, some can not afford to drive to work, but we can still afford to prop up Iraq, and lose American lives.What are we still doing in Iraq? Still looking for WMD? This is not a winnable war,the man who will stop wasting more American lives and those “T” figures and sees our brothers and sisters home safe from harms way is the only choice.
By Titothebear
June 11, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
I won’t vote for Obama, even though I’m a Democrat who has always supported the nominee of the party. Nor will I vote vote for McCain. Both are in the pockets of various interests. Both will be awful but either will be a tremendous improvement over George W. Hitler!
By Fred
June 11, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
Are there any lucid posts on this blog? I read the first couple, including the racist Eric with his predictable “McKlan” comment and could stomach no more.
It’s quite simple. Instead of the so called “tax and spend” Democrats, we have the “cut taxes and spend” Republicans.
Something has to give. Senators McCain and Clinton were the same old crap with a “new and improved” label on the box. Senator Obama is at the very least a CHANCE at change. It is hard to believe that Obama could screw up our economy more than the current administration has. The fear tactics are not working Mr. Wooten, Chicken Little has cried “The sky is falling,” one time too many.
Obama in ‘08. It will HAPPEN. Get on the bandwagon or get run over by it.
By Dan Tucker
June 11, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
bigjoe - income tax is only a portion of the overall issue. look at both canidates capital gain tax plans, company tax plans, etc. Raising the capital gains tax rate will only cripple an already volitile economy. If you tax people even heavier on their investments, less investments will be made. Less investing (stocks, etc) means more volitility which means even higher gas and food prices. The real solution here is a SMALLER gov’t that spends less and uses OUR tax dollars more judiciously!
By Peter
June 11, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
All the “Right Wingers” who claim the Iraq WAR, or Made up WAR, has zero to do with oil prices are WRONG as usual….
The markets move on fear, and chaos.
Come to grips with the WAR was started to CREATE chaos in the oil market.
What do you think Dick (Darth Vader) and the energy executives talked about in the “Closed Door Energy Policy for America Meetings”?
Why do you think guys like the disgraced head of Enron, was doing there?
By Copyleft
June 11, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
Undecided: Pick a policy. Which one “can’t be defended with evidence, reason, or fact?”
(And no, saying “ALL OF THEM” isn’t an answer—it’s another tired partisan shot of the type you condemn.)
By Dutchman
June 11, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this
El Diablo,
Yeah, the stock market, the seat of free enterprise and capitalism. But, you are right, my return this year is below last years, only +6% for the first 5 months.
By Curious Observer
June 11, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
Did you hear about the man who drowned in a river with an average depth of six inches?
That’s the kind of pseudo-logic Dutchman is using in comparing the effects of the tax plans of McCain and Obama.
Go to CNN.com and look at the comparison.
McCain would cut taxes for those making $2.9 million or more by $269,364. Obama would raise them for this group by $701,885.
McCain would cut taxes for those making $603,000 up to $2.9 million by $45,361. Obama would raise taxes for this group by $115,974.
McCain would cut taxes for those making between $227,000 up to $603,00 by $7,871. Obama would raise taxes for this group by $12.
Obama directs the tax cuts to the middle and lower classes. For example, the McCain tax cut for those making between $66K and $112K is $1,009; Obama’s is a tax cut of $1,290. For those making between $38K and $66K, the McCain tax cut is only $319; Obama cuts the taxes for this group by $1,042.
Don’t be fooled by the stalking horses like Dutchman. Read the numbers first-hand and then decide whose plan will benefit you.
By Titothebear
June 11, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
I won’t vote for Obama, even though I’m a Democrat who has always supported the nominee of the party. Nor will I vote vote for McCain. Both are in the pockets of various interests. Both will be awful but either will be a tremendous improvement over George W. Hitler!
By Truthifier
June 11, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
What Mr. Wooten did not point out is that Mr. Boren, while indicating that he will not endorse Senator Obama, went on to say that he will be voting for him at the Democratic convention as a delegate and as a voter in the general election in November. That kind of makes his point moot doesn’t it??
By Fair Tax
June 11, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
During the ABC debate Obama, when facing the fact that lowering taxes always increases revenue to the treasury, finally answered that the reason to raise them anyway is because “it’s fair”.
I don’t think it’s fair that the value of Obama’s investments has tripled in 2 years and mine haven’t. Also, how fair is it that he has money in tax free bonds?
By hillbilly ragger
June 11, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
Obama Who @ 2:19, why don’t you ask the poor, beleaguered Canadians if they’re eager to switch to the USA’s fabulous free market system?
As for what Obama’s accomplished as a Senator, why don’t you ask Tom Coburn, who co-sponsored this bill with him?
Or, you could go to his Senate site and click on any number of links to legislation he’s authored or co-sponsored.
I guess you’d rather just pretend like that garbage you hear on right-wing radio bears some resemblance to the truth. Hey, it’s your brain, fry it if you like.
By Educate yourself
June 11, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this
So…..how many of you have gone on the websites of either candidate to see what their platform says? I bet most of you read the paper or listen to talk radio or talk shows and make your mind up based on that. Go to the websites. Make up your mind based on the platforms instead of mindlessly going with what you have been led to believe. You may be very scared by what you read….be ready for the cap to be taken off FICA, 28% tax on capital gains, higher taxes, higher taxes on small businesses(who employee a lot of people that will be laid off if their employer can’t afford the increase of taxes), socialized medicine(ask people in Canada about it before you decide it is the best thing ever…). Our economy is already in a downturn. If the economic plan that I read is put into place, look out for the stock market to crash and really bad things to follow suit…..Ask ANY economist… i Read and learn yourself before you vote.
By BamaBrave
June 11, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
I can’t believe anyone could suggest that we simply pack up and leave Iraq. Despite what the national media and über liberals would have us think, this isn’t Vietnam. Look at a effing map!! If we leave, the door is wide open for Islamic fundamentalists to create chaos throughout the region. You think gas is expensive now? You think the economy is sluggish? Just consider how things would be if our gasoline supply fell by 2/3rds. We’d be riding bicycles, folks. That’s if your business could survive the fallout. The military force in Iraq is a garrison against such a calamity. You can’t just leave and create a vacuum. You want proof? I encourage anyone to read “Ghost Wars” by Steve Coll to fully appreciate the consequences of an abandonment strategy. We fell into this trap in Afghanistan 20 years ago, and that vacuum created scores of bin Ladens and stateless terrorists, hell-bent on our destruction. We must stay involved in Iraq until our dependence on Middle Eastern oil has waned or disappeared. Sad but true. Get used to it. No rational person wishes for war, but we can’t hide from the realities of the current geopolitical climate. I, for one, refuse to vote for any candidate who fails to grasp those realities. It’s easy to say what Obama says. He speaks of a world that doesn’t exist. Maybe that’s what he means by “Change”…
By booboo
June 11, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
Let’s see here:
Obama:
Endorsed by Hollywood and Hamas
Want Capital Gain tax increase in midst of worst real estate market in decades - very smart
Wants more taxes and more government which simply takes more money out of the distressed economy.
More taxes and regulation will only make us even less competitive in a global economy..
Winning to meet with a terrorist leader with no pre-conditions
Has ruled out use of nuclear weapons against terrorists
Endorses 3 term abortions - would not even vote for doctors being required to save babies still alive afetr an abortion.
Jeramiah Wright as his mentor and pastor?? Who will be his Secretary of State - Louis Farrakhan?
National Health care - just ask Canada of England how well that works and how much the costs spiral out of control..
I am not overly fond of McCain, but Obama is pure fantasy … Please wake up before it’s too late
By IfleftiswrongIdontwanttoberight
June 11, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
I have had enough of convservative politics for this cycle. I giving Obama a chance. This article has done if for me. I volunteering for his campaign immediately.
If an experienced George W. Bush can make such a mess of things then why can’t a smart, intelligent, thoughtful person do any worse? The economy tanks. Today I had to decide between gas and lunch for the rest of the work week. The no child left behind mess is REALLY working in GA. The war is costing us billions of dollars per month making us LESS secure because there isn’t going to be anyone left to defend the USA at home without a draft.
If left is wrong, then I don’t want to be right!
By IfleftiswrongIdontwanttoberight
June 11, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
I have had enough of convservative politics for this cycle. I giving Obama a chance. This article has done if for me. I volunteering for his campaign immediately.
If an experienced George W. Bush can make such a mess of things then why can’t a smart, intelligent, thoughtful person do any worse? The economy tanks. Today I had to decide between gas and lunch for the rest of the work week. The no child left behind mess is REALLY working in GA. The war is costing us billions of dollars per month making us LESS secure because there isn’t going to be anyone left to defend the USA at home without a draft.
If left is wrong, then I don’t want to be right!
By Tpdaman
June 11, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
I’m with you Wooten. Well articulated article. Why do the angry, libs always seem to be so uneducated on these forums? I guess that’s the Georgia school system for you. Oh yea, that has been run by democrats for the last 120 years.
By Wooten is thinking wrong
June 11, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
Just a quick survey. How many of you conservative-loving, liberal-hating, tax cutting lovers voted for Bush? If you are one of them, then you have no reason to complain about $4 dollar gas (the oil will pay for the War, yeah right). You republicans seem to hate higher taxes, but enjoy lower/stagnant wages. You vote against your own self-interests to feel like a patriot, or like your values matter. Most of you don’t make over $250K so those tax cuts don’t go to you. I work for the IRS, and your tax burden actually went up if you make less than that!!! So taxes CAN be cut and your taxes can still go up. Slight of the hand economic policies by the Republicans. And we know conservatives could give a dmn about values, as shown by their actions. You people need to wake up and see that you’re being played for your votes. Name one thing that the Bush administration and Republicans have done for you in the last 7+ years. They pray on your fears. And I’m an Independent by the way.* The only thing people like Wooten can do right now is scare you into voting Republican again. He’s yet to say what the GOP offers, besides more tax cuts for the rich and more wars. Nothing more. Drill in America? Yeah right, we only have about a 15-20 year supply and the oil companies will just sell that to China anyway. THEY’RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW IN LOUISIANA, SELLING AMERICAN OIL TO CHINA!!!! Wake up, they’re playing you.
By Tiff
June 11, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
IfleftiswrongIdontwanttoberight
Sort of a hail Mary? I thought that also until I heard Jeremiah Wright and got yanked back to reality.
Bush has kept us safe - I can go to the mall without being blown up and open my mail without getting anthraxed. For that I’m grateful. The rest of this stuff I figure that we the people have to straighten it out - like we have in the past.
I’m not happy with everything that has gone on - the Republicans had congress and still didn’t vote to drill and/or enforce alternative energy - big problem. And they spent too much money and the immigration issue was a joke. But all in all, we haven’t had to watch more of our citizens jump out of burning buildings. For me, that is the issue and frankly, if I were President, I’d consider that my most important duty.
By Dutchman
June 11, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
Curious Observer
Those items were from the same report, be fair and balanced :)
While I would have preferred a different candidate, I will stick with the lesser of the two liberals, McCain.
While you liberals keep whining about the current President, remember, it is the Democratic control Congress that spends. If the Congress does not support the Presidents policies, they do not have to fund them, it is that simple.
But then again, who am I fooling, the lefties do not want to hear reason, they just want to b*tch and moan. It is okay to remember the past, but the future is not here yet, so instead of complaining about little Jimmy Carter giving away the Panama Canal and Billy “bubba” Clinton selling out to the Chinese, worry about what BHO will give away.
By Peter
June 11, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
Booboo ha ha ha to your gibberish….
All of a sudden Bush wants to meet with IRAN….
He is a Flip Flopper.
He also doesn’t take care of Americans.
What happened to the 85 million dollars worth of stuff that was meant for the New Orleans flood victims?
Why are American soldiers who came back from the Iraq War with mental issues, housed next to a firing range?
Where is the Iraq Oil money, while Americans pay for the rebuilding of Iraq?
Are we getting the BIG Oil discount from Iraq, since we were “Liberators”?
Why is the economy tanking in the last months of an 8 year term….. I guess old George actually knew what he was doing? Hey Right!
I guess you are one of the 20 something percent that actually is deranged enough to think George is doing a great JOB!
Not OK to have an abortion, but don’t help poor Americans when they don’t……then go off and start a WAR……I guess KILLING is OK when one does it in the name of a lie!
By Richard
June 11, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
6/11/08
Facts: America spends now more than the next 100 countries now on military expenditures. Washington just approved 650 billion military budget for fiscal 2009. what did our 2 senator presidential candidates say? a 3 trillion dollar federal budget for 2009. Our economy is collapsing along with our dollar while the world waits for our demise and breakup into a Spanish section (sw and California and Florida / A blacks ection The southeast and parts of midwest and a white region Pacific Northwest, Great lakes and New York , New England area.
When the former Us flounders under a “divided we fall” mentality China will step in and usurp our entire economic and world position with the 1.5billion homogenous people in a united country without firing a shot. In the month since the disaster of the 5/12/08 7.9 magnitude quake in China which devastated the central part of their country impacting 5,000,000 people and causing a projected 88,000 deaths., they set to work immediately with an armed force of 150,000 assigned to work and save as many as possible. We let Katrina kill 2000 and 3 years later the entire gulf coast is still devasted with mass exodus of people and crime and despair rampant in New Orleans and along the former serene coasts.
We have diverted our militia in a region that drove the former Soviet Union into a bankrupt, destitute and fragemented entity and we are following the same path.
I will always vote for maturity and leadership over a rank dreamer such as we are presented with now as elections approach in less than 5 months. I have shifted from a Democratic supporter to Republican.
We will see a preview of the Century of China when the Olympics open in Bejing and then we will realize all may already be lost regardless of which party in our debt toppled society wins in 11/08.
By flow
June 11, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
When do you check your facts or do you?
By Peter
June 11, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
Speaking of facts……. has anyone here including the Wrongs, see the deficit is growing……..
Great economic plans from the Republicans I guess!
By Undecided
June 11, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
Educate yourself…thank you. I share a 3 bedroom house with an Obama fanatic and he hasn’t even been to his website, he just likes his speeches.
The Real Truth…don’t ever use a BLOG to form an opinion. Unless its written by someone respectable, its probably a poorly formed conspiracy theory written out of paranoia. If political bloggers would get out of their mom’s basement long enough they might form an opinion on their own instead of what CNN told them.
Don’t listen to CNN. Before you type it (because everyone who disagrees with you HAS to be an insensitive conservative), don’t listen to FOX either. Form your own opinions with factual information. You’re not going to find any detailed outline of HOW anything will be accomplished or results/consequences of actions on Obama’s platform. With some research, you will find that anyone making $75K or more will pay 44-48% of their income in taxes.
By onlycritter
June 11, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
Why do I have the feeling we’ll see the EXACT SAME arguments in 4 (or 8) years?
By THINK about it!
June 11, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
America needs Reagan ideas -close the borders, kick out the illegals, keep taxes low, drill off shore, in vast waste lands and offer tax incentives to companies that turn coal into clean buring fuel in 5 yrs or less. Obama will make slaves of all of us under his church’s doctrine.
AMEN.
By MissClarity
June 11, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
Just sounds like more Clinton Chronicles (youtube.com it) techniques. Oh well
By tedchyn
June 11, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Why we dump old junky and get new one all the time ? Because old junky will cause you more in the long run.
By Sam
June 11, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this
My problem with Obama is that he is going to raise taxes and create socialized medical insurance. Look at Canada and their problems with Socialized insurance. They are sending women over to the US to have their babies. Free insurance isn’t the answer, we will be paying for everybody’s insurance. Redistribution of wealth (hmmm. isn’t that close to communism?) My problem with McCain is that he wants to grant amnesty to the illegals. Is that fair to all the immigrants who came over here the “Fair” way?
Democrats=Big Government Republicans=Big Business Which is better, which is worse? you decide….
By RH
June 11, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this
Howard you freakin idiot…it is the liberal democrats that have prevented us from drilling domestically.
By votechange
June 11, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
for those of you Republicans who think that Obama will be wrong on taxes guess again
BREAKING DOWN THE NUMBERS Here’s how the average tax bill could change in 2009 if either John McCain’s or Barack Obama’s tax proposals were fully in place. MCCAIN OBAMA Income Tax Bill Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885 $603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974 $227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12 $161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789 $112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204 $66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290 $38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042 $19K-$38K -$113 -$892 Under $19K -$19 -$567
now according to these numbers Obama clearly is the candidate for the middle class and McCain well… number dont lie. but how will McCain be able to explain to the majority of america (the middle class) why someone like a Tiger Woods or a Will Smith or even a Matt Ryan will need a $269k(avg)tax cut.
And McCain will have to explain why it it worth %1.2 trillion more to the United States Debt vs. Obama plan. and if Obama were to adapt the lower tier of McCain tax plan Obama’s plan would cost a mere $2.4 trillion dollars.
McCain’s tax proposals could increase the national debt by as much as $4.5 trillion with interest, while Obama’s could add as much as $3.3 trillion.
and they say Obama doesnt have “experience” it seems to mee like the already trumps McCain and given the fact that the price of oil will not subside any time soon many Americans are going to opt for what can help keep more money in their pockets.
votechange
By Peter
June 11, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
Sam currently we have the Biggest government ever……..
So your Democrat = Big Government is WRONG !
Biggest deficit ever an growing, so there is ZERO accountability with the Republicans as well!
By RH
June 11, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
Rest assured that if Obama was to say he wanted to open up drilling domestically; the democratic party and left wing liberals would cry like you have never seen before.
By Harold Hodapp
June 11, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
You are right on target, as usual. This man is depreciating in the show room. Three times he has voted against making English the national language! Qualifications? He is a stripped down model with a HIGH price tag on the window! Window dressing is all he offers….
By RH
June 11, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
votechange, i can tell you how McCain will explain the tax changes to Americans. It is not just about the indidual tax law; it is about the entire tax structure, which includes corporate taxes on small business and large corprations. Although the average middle class individual will not see a tax increase on their personal tax statement, the company they work for our could maybe work for will see an increase in taxes and stop hiring!!!
By Sam
June 11, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this
Typical Dem., Peter. Can’t argue without being hateful. Can’t conservatives express their views too?
It’s true. Dems- big government. They are known to raise taxes and want to redistribute your earnings. Socialized Medical Insurance. How is that not big gov’t? Please explain?
By RH
June 11, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
I think Peter is a little confused on the topic of big government vs. big deficit. No conservative Republican believes the current deficit is good for Americans.
The dems should get that through their heads.
By SLT
June 11, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this
Common Sense: Thas was the biggest bunch of bull crap I have ever read in my life. You not only do not have common sense…you have NO sense at all. You need to move to Germany and join the rest of the prejudice Nazi’s.
By SLT
June 11, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
Common Sense: Thas was the biggest bunch of bull crap I have ever read in my life. You not only do not have common sense…you have NO sense at all. You need to move to Germany and join the rest of the prejudice Nazi’s.
By SLT
June 11, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
Common Sense: Thas was the biggest bunch of bull crap I have ever read in my life. You not only do not have common sense…you have NO sense at all. You need to move to Germany and join the rest of the prejudice Nazi’s.
By Peter
June 11, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this
Hey RH I think the Dems already realize that fact……but the Repubs, back the President no matter how badly he is leading the country down the tubes.
Where is the Iraq OIL money?
Where is the hate SAM…..?????
By Big Dandy
June 11, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
Yes RH, Dems should get that through their heads! LMAO
These are are examples of small government….Medicare Part D drug coverage, No Child Left Behind, Bridges to nowhere, Dept of Homeland Security, ….
And guess what? They are all free!!!
By Dusty
June 11, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
Dear Jim Wooten,
Good “stirring” topic today. I had to read it in a hurry. But..why are so many posts repeated several times? I mean, not just a few, but many repeated two and three times.
It is hard to believe this repetition is “accidental”. Seems more “intentional”. Wonder why??
By RH
June 11, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this
Yes I do support the president that “we” voted into office. Although I do not agree with every decision this administration has made; national security is priority #1 for me. All these programs and plans the dems speak of are irrelevent if you are dead or a nuclear warhead is headed this way. Has every decision been right? No….but at least the republican party seems to have some ideas vs. the party who offers more criticism than any other party on Monday mornings and has put a candidate supported by Oprah and the rest of the hollywood flunkies.
By Big Dandy
June 11, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this
What about the Republican governors of Florida and California RH. They have already given a BIG no to offshore drilling.
Oh yea, lets start a trillion dollar war then pass out tax cuts. Real smart. Then we’ll tell everyone WE HATE DEFICITS.
We’re waiting for the Iraqi war to pay for itself…….We’re waiting for the tax cuts to kick in……..
We’re also waiting for you young war supporters to get your butts to Iraq.
By nephew
June 11, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
to try and scare people that the area will be in turmoil and taken over by people that won’t like us if we leave, sorry pal, but it’s already too late for that, the grand mistake has already occurred. you don’t go into Iraq because getting out will cost ya, just ask the British. and we can’t stay forever, eventually we will have to leave. and afterwards it will be a islamic fundamentist gov’t or another brutal dictator. in years to come, you will be able to hear all about it on the history and militarty channels. this stupid war will be taught in military schools to show students how not to do things.
By Big Dandy
June 11, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
“All these programs and plans the dems speak of are irrelevent if you are dead or a nuclear warhead is headed this way.”
What the hell are you doing here blogging RH???? There is this big threat and you are sitting at home blogging? Why? You need to get your butt over to Iraq.
By Lee
June 11, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
The last balanced budget did not come from the democrats. A democrat president held office, while it was a republican controlled house and senate that got the balanced budget!
By getalife
June 11, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
“Congress again refuses to impeach Bush:
By 251-166, House members dispatched the measure to a committee on Wednesday — a procedure often used to kill legislation.”
Spineless.
By onemangrouphug
June 11, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
Um, Jim, when you get off of your metaphor wagon and come back to actual facts, let us all know…
By kazy
June 11, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
Let’s be fair and realistic. The downswing in the economy did’t begin until the Democratic Congress came into power. How do you account for the flourishing economy until this happened?
By bhandhobi
June 11, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this
You and Rep. Boren obviously haven’t done any research when claiming that Obama is a partisan who has not reached across the aisle. It took all of five minutes to find this information, so next time try checking some facts before spouting off the latest Republican talking point. Here are just a few pieces of legislation Obama has worked on with Republicans:
The Obama-McCain Climate Change Reduction Bill: Obama teamed up with, yes, Republican Sen. John McCain on this proposal to cut emissions by two-thirds by 2050.
The Lugar-Obama Cooperative Threat Reduction: Introduced by Obama and Republican Senators Dick Lugar and Tom Coburn, this legislation strengthens our ability to detect and intercept illegal shipments of weapons and materials of mass destruction.
Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006: Introduced by Obama and Republican Sen. Tom Coburn, this act required the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds in FY2007.
Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act: Following the Republican-sponsored voter intimidation tactics seen in mostly black counties in Maryland during the 2006 midterm elections, Obama worked with Republican Sen. Chuck Schumer to introduce this bill.
Amendments to the 2008 Defense Authorization Bill: Obama worked with Republican Sen. Kit Bond to limit the Pentagon’s use of personality disorder discharges in the FY 2008 Defense Authorization bill. This followed news reports that the Pentagon inappropriately used these procedures to discharge service members with service-connected psychological injuries.
By Lee
June 11, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this
You people keep forgetting that it is Congress that puts the rubber stamp on the spending, not the president. So, get this part right. Democratic controlled congress = higher spending = more debt = more government control over YOU.
By Curious George
June 11, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
Does Barack Hussein Obama bang them pretty WHITE girls like Bill Clinton, or does he prefer his lovin’ Willie-B-style?
By Lee
June 11, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this
You people keep forgetting that it is Congress that puts the rubber stamp on the spending, not the president. So, get this part right. Democratic controlled congress = higher spending = more debt = more government control over YOU.
By donald
June 11, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this
We are spending $1B/week in a country that didn’t have WMD’s when we invaded and is now getting fat off of oil revenues, not giving us a penny of it. A weasel for a president who lied about Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Katrina ad nauseum. Gas is high as it’s ever been, along with food and here is a two-bit journalist telling everyone that Obama is the second coming oF Damien. People, if you clowns want four more years of a chickenhead weasel selling you fodder for gold then vote for McBush. I hope you all drown in your cesspool of ignorance, especially you Wooten.
By Peter
June 11, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
Hey funny guy…….By Curious George
“June 11, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
Does Barack Hussein Obama bang them pretty WHITE girls like Bill Clinton, or does he prefer his lovin’ Willie-B-style?”
All you are talking about is some sick thought of sex and perversion…..how about some real perverse numbers for you!
Nice to see you are also Racist.
Here are your numbers …
When Bill lied……. he did …..Republicans took him to task…..
Cost the USA 20 Million….all money spent by REPUBLICANS!
When Bush lied……which he did……the current cost to the USA is what…..?
Can you comprehend ONE TRILLION DOLLARS ? ALL SPENT BY REPUBLICANS!
Tell me more about the guy who represents the Right wingers that like to play footsey in the bathroom?
Get off the Rock guy!
Are you also Curious George in the Men’s bathroom?
By Titothebear
June 11, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this
Does RH stand for Rotorooter Head? The Republicans are protecting us and our freedoms? Please! Bush has trampled the Constitution, usurped powers not given to the president and he’s allowed, encouraged and, indirectly, engaged in torture and murder. He’s a criminal and needs to taste justice! The reason for going into Iraq was bogus and everyone knows it. Tell me this, when it was determined that no weapons of mass destruction existed in Iraq, why did our troops of oppression remain there? Where’s the oil money that was supposed to pay for this fiasco? The truth is that the attack upon the World Trade Center was orchestrated for a reason and that reason was to justify American imperialism. Bush and the bin Ladens are still business partners and only dupes, such as yourself, don’t know it!
By DumbAmericans
June 11, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this
You sheeple are unbelievable.
You allowed a bunch of bankers (illuminati) to hijack your country in 1913 and turn it into a communist country.
The same bankers (illuminati) stole your gold in the 30’s and caused the stock market to crash.
These same bankers (illuminati) financed hitler, lenin, trotsky, and Stalin at your expense and made sure you took part in WWI and WWII.
Then they sent your kids to vietnam (after killing jfk when he tried to end the war) and gave you strict guidelines about how to fight the war to prolong the war and not achieve victory.
These devils were not happy so they found some ” arabs ” to catch your great country napping and destroyed the twin towers:)
Now you have a war that is truly endless against terrorists.
The bankers (illuminati) have never been happier. an endless war for haliburton, brown & root, blackwater and the illuminati.
meanwhile the sheeple still believe they live in a free country after being dumbed down through the educational system.
You have been miseducated to the point that you sign documents not knowing if you are being taken advantage off. Dumbphucks.
You sheeple willingly sign up for the armed forces thinking you are fighting in the name of the land of the free and home of the brave for democracy:)
Your politicians commit treason year after year after year and you still show up and vote again and again and again for the same thieves.
You americans are so dumb it is pitiful.
When are you folks going to wise up and dump the federal reserve, ben bernanke, and the illuminati.
forget it you are all talk no action.
just dumbammericans being played like suckers.
By RU Kiddinme
June 12, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this
Wow, Hey Jim!!! Do you even read the responses on your blogs?? Seems to me that 2/3 of the comments always REFUTE your hate mongering. Amazing they keep you around the hallowed halls of the AJC. In a few more months, with the world watching, the good Senator from Illinois will take the reigns of a country and face several major problems, both created by Dubya and his band of idiots, and by the Clinton administration. The war MUST end. NAFTA MUST BE REWORKED!! In order to stem jobs back into this country. For those companies that insist on using cheap labor in those NAFTA alliances, to make products to be sold in this country, they should be saddled with stiff tariffs. Period. The dollar needs to have the backing of some other method of security than the Fed. That caused the dollar to plunge in the first place. This from the tacticsa of the politics of old. It has debased our country and has sent us in a downward spiral. It cannot continue this way, and people who think like you Jimmy Boy are a thing of the past. Thank GOD for this day!!
By RH
June 12, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
Some real intelligent insight….thanks ladies and gentlemen. I feel much more informed on politics after taking part in this blog.
By please
June 12, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
Wow, Alot was said above, 1st how can you soley place the oil prices on Bush. NEWS FLASH Bush is not the one blocking off shore drilling. All the “tree Hugging”, anti SUV, “GREEN”, PETA supporting Liberals are to blame, simple 9th grade economics SUPPLY AND DEMAND. Our economy was rolling along great then those WONDERFUL democrats took over the house. Think about it everyone of these Politicians are crazy. Look deep and think about this! As a long voting Republican, McCain is not my favorite, because he is like the Democrats of old. But Obama is just to Liberal!!
By Jack
June 12, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
you Obama supporters are absolute fools or maybe you’re into gov’t hand outs and so you really don’t care…but maybe your parents will retire and once they start taking their money they’ll pay 29% for capital gains plus they’ll pay higher taxes and you freeloaders will just shrugg your shoulders…losers….you’ll wake up when you’re affected by this fatcat liberal…you just wait and see
By Dave
June 12, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
It seems like every thirty or so years american’s need to see a real dumb a* as president. Last time it was Jimmy Carter. We are still suffering from his blunders. So sure, put your whitey blaming fool as president. He’ll make any republican look god like in 4 years. Be careful what you wish for.
By Tyger
June 12, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this
Stick that neo-con crap in your car and drive it!!!