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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Barack Obama’s now within a hundred delegates of securing the Democratic Party nomination to fulfill the legacy of George McGovern, Michael Dukakis, John Kerry and Al Gore.
John McCain’s spokesman Tucker Bounds set it up:
“This election is fundamentally about who Americans can trust to secure peace and prosperity for the next generation of Americans. Without a doubt, Barack Obama is a talented political orator, but his naive plans for unconditional summits with rogue leaders and support for big tax hikes on hardworking families expose his bad judgment that Americans can ill-afford in our next president.”
What he neglected to say is that four members of the U.S. Supreme Court are likely to retire over the next eight years. And since Democrats control both the House and the Senate, a left-lock on the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court should be enough to complete the march to the welfare state.
The stakes this November, then, could not be higher.
Throughout the primary season, the end-of-day story in every state has been how blacks and whites voted. It happened again in reporting exit polls in Kentucky and phone surveys in Oregon, the two states voting Tuesday.
Here are the first two paragraphs of an Associated Press report on those results:
“White voters played a decisive role in Hillary Rodham Clinton’s lopsided victory Tuesday in Kentucky’s Democratic presidential primary. Barack Obama got the victory in more liberal Oregon, where race and the hard-edged rivalry between the two embattled candidates was muted.
“Nearly nine in 10 of each state’s voters were white, surveys of voters showed, but there the similarities ceased. Kentucky’s less educated, less liberal, poorer and more rural population fit the profile of states where Clinton has done well, while Oregon’s better schooled, more affluent and urban residents more resembled those that have delivered for him all year.”
Spare me the Southern stereotypes here, but the story went on to note that Hillary Clinton won the support of 63 percent of the white college graduates who voted Tuesday in Kentucky. Obviously the “better-schooled” and presumably more affluent Southerner did not prefer Obama.
Is Obama’s race the explanation? You can believe that if you also believe that the better-schooled or the worse-schooled Kentucky voter would have chosen McGovern, Dukakis or Kerry.
The left is determined to make this election a referendum on white racism. But the fact is that a majority of this country has not and will not now elect a president who runs as far to the left as Barack Obama.
It is essentially over. Obama will be the Democratic nominee. The party has what it has, a candidate who in Kentucky failed to win the votes in a Democratic primary of all age groups and incomes, the college-educated and those who aren’t, and those who described themselves as liberal,moderate and conservative.
By the convention this is a party that will have buyer’s remorse. They’re getting themselves another McGovern.
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By jbmlaw
May 21, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
“If Barack Obama had given a speech on bowling, it might well have been brilliant and inspiring. But instead he actually tried bowling and threw a gutter ball. The contrast between talking and doing could not have been better illustrated.” Dr. Tom Sowell.
I am comfortable that in his face to face meetings with the Iranian mullahs Obama will handle them as well as he handles a bowling ball. And his pretty words may delay the Iranian nuclear attack on Israel by five minutes. The good news, Obama’s tough talk with Iran will live up to the legacy of Jimmy Carter, who used the same strategy. And after eliminating the Bush tax cuts, when the economy runs aground, I assume we will get a Malaise speech: “”We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times.” Thank goodness democrats cured the oil crisis with corn-based ethanol, instead of drilling in the ANWR desert. Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Who’s blind and ignorant?
Obama is such an odd bird. He is willing talk to terrorists who run a country – Iran, Syria, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela – but he will not talk to terrorists who run a movement – Hamas, Hezbollah. I suppose if he never does anything but talk, however, the terrorists will take over their countries, and then qualify for US concessions, like the state-sponsors of terrorism. And pulling out of Iraq will help lots.
In contrast, I can live with, “Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb, bomb Iran.” Kinda sounds like “I’ve signed legislation outlawing the Soviet Union forever. The bombing begins in five minutes.” I have no illusions about Captain Queeg’s limitations, but between these two, this race is not a hard decision. My only decision is whether there might be a meritorious protest vote I can cast. Since the only libertarians still around – Bob Barr, Ron Paul - are wrong on the one big issue, I doubt it.
Those dastardly Tennessee republicans – they dare to show videotape of Mrs. Hussein saying stupid indefensible things, things that cause a normal person to question her patriotism. Why that’s almost as bad as questioning her patriotism. How dare they use her words against her! Truth and logic are unfair to democrats, and should be outlawed. And with this Congress, the odds are pretty good. We can always count on leftists to criminalize political differences. Yes, we can!
By HIDT
May 21, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this
Obama was easy to market (young, hip, looks good, sounds good) and that’s what has gotten him to this point. He is not a man of towering intellect and selfless dedication to the public good. He is an excelllent politician. He’s skilled in running for office. No more, no less. He still will have that to sell come November and I hope voters won’t buy.
By Anyone But Hillbama
May 21, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this
Let’s hope so - 49 states for McCain in November, 1 for Obama - just like McGovern.
By jm
May 21, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
I wonder which is worse, being compared to a man who ran for president 36 years ago or being compared to the one sitting in the White House for the last eight years. I wonder when Mr. Wooten will wirte a column praising the virtues of John McBush.
By Thor
May 21, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this
The Bush Administration is speaking with Iran, Hezboloah and Hamas - but you right wing party hacks don’t read newspapers do ya? Just let Hannity tell you what to think. Get comfortable on your couch as you want a war with Iran, playing flip the channel to watch American Idol. You’re a tourist. Let some other kid get blown up as Bush cats around with Iran, it won’t effect you.
Southern right wingers think the rest of the country is like them - its not. You guys are on the hard right.
By Cyrus "Lackey" Guitar
May 21, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
I may be all the way up in Nashville but I shore do appreciate your columns, Mr. Wooten. This one’s perfect!
By tracher
May 21, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
A scary thing about educated racists is that they know how to lie about being racist. Don’t give Kentucky so much credit. I agree with the McBush comment. You are focusing on the wrong things here, Mr. Wooten, but it only shows your insecurity in the strength and brilliane in a man like Barrack Obama. Maybe you should move to Kentucky. You’d fit right in with all of the college educated racists.
By College student
May 21, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
Good morning, everyone! I would like to point out that ex-President Richard Nixon, that shining example of a politician and the anathema of everything bad about American politics, won that race.
The same Richard Nixon who helped cover up a wiretapping scheme, the same Richard Nixon who covered up secret funds, the same Richard Nixon who resigned before being impeached. The same Richard Nixon who, despite being vehemently anti-Communist, went to Red China for the first time and recognized China as a country over the previous administrations’ recognition of Taiwan as the legitimate government of China.
I’m not defending Obama here, I’m just saying that your stone age political references (I mean, REALLY OLD! The early 70s! I don’t even remember the 80s!) have no relevance to today’s contests. Especially when you consider what the victors have done once they’ve reached office.
By fearless fosdik
May 21, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
By HIDT
May 21, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this
HIDT…Are describing George Bush, or OBAMA? Leave out the the “sound good” and one has the perfect caricature of George the stupid!
By Tiredof Ignorance
May 21, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
I make a little over $100K per year and 2 associates of mine grossed well over $1 million last year. I paid almost more taxes as they did. Please, jbmlaw and Mr. Wooten, tell me more about Bush’s Tax Cut and how you benefit from it. Unless you two have salaries such as my associates, you don’t benefit. I pick through everything before I eat. So, go and feed that crap to someone else. Just in case you are typing this blog from planet MARS, we here on earth are suffering financially thanks to your RIGHT-WINGED Party leaders who are raking in the money from LIGHT, SWEET CRUDE OIL at $130 per barrel. We need a President for the United States of America that will create jobs here and enhance our status as a world economic power. Instead, your Mr. Bush seems more like the President of China and India for he has help boost their ecomony expeditiously by sending them all of our jobs. But hey, that is just my opinion!
By Dave
May 21, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
Seems a better example would me more like John “dubya-dick” McCain…which = MORE OF THE SAME!
By Eric
May 21, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
The DNC with Dean, Pelosi and Reid at the helm have put the party in a no win win position. If Obama doesn’t get the nomination you would take the black vote away in the general. Obama gets the nomination and all the swing states with the white vote don’t go his way.
The loss of either voting block spells doom for the party and you can lay it right on Deans lap. At this stage of the election most people have made up their minds on who they will vote for. Even if a small portion of the people here say they won’t vote for Obama, it is enough to swing a state like Oh, Ky, Fla or Pa.
Obama has an uphill struggle to change peoples mind to vote for him. While both Obama and Clinton say they both have the same political agenda on health care, war and the economy, the Clinton supporters will still not vote for him and that is a deal breaker.
The radical left of the party must ask themselves just what is it that the other HALF of the party find objection to with Obama? You just can’t call everyone racist that doesn’t want to vote for him, there has got to be something else where he is not connecting.
It is a sad state of affairs the democrats have put themselves in and now it comes down to nominating someone who has already lost the GE.
signed: Independent African-American
By Get Real
May 21, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
At this point, I think I’d rather have McGovern than the illustrious George W. Bush. Not much to talk about on the Republican side huh Wooten? So you’d rather resort to name calling. YOUR guy has already turned this country into a police state. Tapping phones, accessing bank accounts, keeping innocent people from bording planes with that great terror watch list. YOU GUYS have screwed this country up, and this is the only article you can think of? Nothing of substance? You’re doing a great job Wootie!
By Spence
May 21, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
Speaking of summits with rogue leaders its being reported today that the Israeli’s are engaged in peace talks with Syria. Oh the humanity!
And this “…support for big tax hikes on hardworking families expose his bad judgment that Americans can ill-afford in our next president.”
Is this some kind of a sick joke? Is the national debt healthy for this country? What this country can ill afford is 20% of the budget going to interest payments, mostly going to China. What this country can ill afford is a continued war in Iraq wasting billions monthly.
Wake up from your Fantasyland dream, everyone knows it became a nightmare. Continuing the Bush path will be a disaster.
By ron
May 21, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
Good morning.One can only hope that Obama turns out like McGovern.I certainly don’t want to see him as President,backed up by the likes of Reid and Pelosi.That would be an unmitigated disaster.
Ted Kennedy sees Obama as his flag bearer for future liberalism.That should tell voters something.More taxes are a given.Carbon tax anyone?Not for any reason,just because they can.
Dr.Sowell?Bob Barr and Ron Paul,jbmlaw?Libertarians are going nowhere fast.Why does anyone dabble in the fringes during an actual election?A libertarian’s best bet this time is surely McCain.Same with Conservatives.
By Copyleft
May 21, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
More wishful thinking, Wooten. “Another McGovern”? Maybe in that he’s RIGHT on all the issues, and that conservatives hate him.
But no, you’re pretending that Obama will LOSE. (snicker) How pathetic. He’s already won, you ninny. The Democratic primary is where we choose the president, and so far Obama is the clear winner. McLame isn’t even a factor.
Funny how “the stakes couldn’t be higher” in every single election, isn’t it? The atmosphere of permanent panic, of eternal emergency, is what drives the neocon mindset. Fearmongering is VITAL to whip the followers into line. They have to believe the entire American Way of Life is at stake every time election day rolls around—otherwise, they might consider the actual ISSUES and what’s best for themselves and the country, rather than reflexively panic-voting against this year’s phantom menace.
So what will it be this time? Gay marriage? Willie Horton? Or “then the terrorists win”? Maybe they’ll cook up a variant of “Democrats want us to become a caliphate, with every American required to bow to Mecca five times a day!” (snicker)
This is entertaining to watch as the GOP goes down in flames. Denial is a funny thing!
Don’t you worry, Wootenites. President Obama will make it all better. Liberalism will rescue this country, even for those backward fools who hate and fear it.
By Anyone But Hillbama
May 21, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
Hey - college student: Thanks so much for reciting your latest history lesson to those of us who are old enough to have lived through the Nixon administration and remember its achievements (and embarrassments) - you taught me so much (insert sarcasm here). We didn’t have to read a blurb in a college history book - we were there. You, sir, with your smart-assed “I’m in college so I know everything” attitude are the one who has no relevance here. And - anyone who takes history classes in college is usually a loser with no idea what to major in and on the 5 or 6 year plan.
By getalife
May 21, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
Clint Eastwood was dead right about Clinton.
He said she is a fighter that deserves our respect. They say Ted Kennedy is the last lion of the Senate but Clinton will step up and lead when he gets treatment.
She deserves the nomination but Americans have drank the kool aid again and chose the one who gives good speeches but has done nothing to deserve the nomination.
When will Obama step up and lead? He will do nothing but give speeches.
We get what we vote for.
By Scholar
May 21, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
If the Democrats want any chance of winning this thing it will have to be an Obama-Clinton ticket.
And if life is so good under right-wing Republican leadership, then how come things suck so bad right now? Oh yeah, the Democratically controlled Congress, that must be it. Give me a break.
By Will
May 21, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
Dear Mr. Wooten:
Although most of the attention has been understandably on the democrat primaries, have you noticed that republicans continue to vote in primaries for someone other than Senator McClain? Last night, one in five republican voters in Oregon and one in four republican voters in West Virginia chose someone other than Senator McCain.
Nationally, about one in five republican voters have chosen someone other than Senator McCain since he wrapped up the nomination.
If one in five republican voters do not vote for Senator McCain this November, I don’t think he will carry any state other than the Old Confederacy, Arizona, West Virginia, Utah, Idaho, Nebraska and possibly one or two other Rocky Mountain/Midwestern states.
Do you think republicans are suffering from “buyers remorse”?
By Copyleft
May 21, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
Hey, that’s a good reminder! Where’s your column praising the many virtues of McLame, Mr. Wooten? Surely you’d like the chance to crow about what a WONDERFUL candidate McLame is, and how he’ll make a GREAT president that every right-winger will be proud to call Lord and Master, right?
Right?
We’ve been waiting for that column for quite a while… what’s taking so long?
By deegee
May 21, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
You bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran folks need to wake up and smell the coffee. Then read the international news. You will find that Israel is holding indirect talks with Syria, Turkey being the mediator. Qatar helped broker a deal in Lebanon between Hezbollah and the Lebanese government. There is a need for diplomacy in the Mideast. Apparently the US lacks the confidence to be a part of the diplomatic process. A new administration headed by Barck Obama may help the US regain trust in the region.
By Peter
May 21, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
Jim has become like the rest of the Lemmings here……
A name caller…….which gets us back too…..”More Family Values”.
Why is he not saying all the wonderful things Bush has done for America?
Why……. because there isn’t anything positive he has done.
Ok Bush did started a WAR, and gave away a bunch of ridiculous contracts to Dick Cheney’s buddies….declared it WON, and will leave office without a conclusion.
Has Jim mention the debt the country is in?
How about the state of housing, or the inflation we are now going through?
Has Jim mention after 8 years of abusing the ecology, King George has now stated that “global Warming” is real?
Faulty intelligence I guess!
Gee Jim, why don’t you talk about something positive the Republicans have done?
Is there any positive you can SPIN Jim, or are you going to continue to resort to your negativity as usual?
Also Jim….. what if Clinton gets in not Obama….. are you going to pull out the Female and Male card then?
Jim is a racist we see…..”More Family Values”!
By dirty harry
May 21, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
Mark McKinnon, the former chief media adviser to George W. Bush, and A top aide to John McCain’s presidential campaign, admitted that he liked Barack Obama so much, he didn’t want to work on the campaign running against Obama and he wouldn’t create negative ads against the Illinois senator if he became the Democratic nominee.
The rats are beginning to jump ship!
By W
May 21, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Dear Mr. Obama,
When it comes time to beg and plead in order to extract a favor or two from a mideast country — or, any country for that matter — just follow my lead. I’ve got years of invaluable experience at it now. By the way, if you are in need of an experienced goodwill ambassador, please keep me in mind.
Thank You, Your Leader, W
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
Hi deegee. Let me just tell you straight out, that isn’t the way I see it at all. The international news this week—-excepting the oil inflation—-is all favorable (for a change) to the Administration. The “bomb, bomb, bomb” thing was more than five years ago, and guess what: Iraq did wake up and smell the coffee. And Iraqis know from coffee. They also know, now, the best practices of the present state of the art of warfare—-so nobody had better try to amend their borders, so to speak.
Why would assume that Turkey was moved of its own accord to sit the enemies at the table?
Come on, deegee. This week just doesn’t plug into the election dynamics. Better luck next week…
By George Washington
May 21, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
Anyone who trusts the entrenched WashingAss power structure is either a Traitor or a Fool, and in Dusty, JMBLAW, and Glenn ‘s cases, both. The pro israel crowd have gone to great trouble and great expense to made danmed good and sure Israel’s enemies are America’s enemies, even to the point of destroying the career’s of anyone who would make peace between america and any one of israel’s many and completely understandable enemies. If that is the way you people want to live your lives, then be well aware that we will all pay a very high price to benefit the pet country of less than 2% of Americans, especially in the areas of oil, and dead and horrible maimed misguided young americans who foolishly volunteer to serve the demands of these TRAITORS. The zionist’s puppets already hide the body bags returning from Iraq, too bad LBJ and Tricky Dick didn’t think of that in the 60’s, or we could still be enjoying the joys of endless war with little brown brother, and just maybe we would never ever have heard of little jimmy woodenhead except if we happended to read his name on the now 10 mile long black wall in WashingASS. How long will the Iraq Wall be?
By The Truth
May 21, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
in response to tired of ignorance - There is much to consider in the upcoming election and this is just one facet. Regardless of who you are leaning towards, you might find the following to be quite an eye opener.
Granted, at the moment its all “campaign proposals” and would need to be “enacted”, but if it were… Just how would it affect you?
Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:
CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN 15% (no change)
OBAMA 28% CLINTON 24%
How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.
DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN 15% (no change)
OBAMA 39.6%
CLINTON 39.6%
How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama or Clinton become president. The experts predict that “Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.”
INCOME TAX
MCCAIN (no changes) Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500 Single making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 60K - tax $9,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250
OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
CLINTON (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
How does this affect you? No explanation needed. This is pretty straight forward.
INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
OBAMA keep the inheritance tax
CLI N TON keep the inheritance tax
How does this affect you? Many families have lost businesses, farms and ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will not only lose them to these taxes.
NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY BOTH CLINTON AND OBAMA
New taxes on retirement accounts and last but no t least….
New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!
Can you afford Clinton or Obama? I can’t!
In case you want more information on Obama’s tax and spend agenda:
If Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) Could Enact All Of His Campaign Proposals, Taxpayers Would Be Faced With Financing $874.35 Billion In New Spending Over One White House Term:
Updated February 14, 2008:Obama’s National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank Will Cost $60 Billion Over Ten Years; Equal To $6 Billion A Year And $24 Billion Over Four Years. Obama: “I’m proposing a National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank that will invest $60 b illion over ten years.” (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks On Economic Policy, Janesville, WI, 2/13/08)
Obama’s Health Care Plan Will Cost Up To $65 Billion A Year; Equal To $260 Billion Over Four Years. “[Obama] campaign officials estimated that the net cost of the plan to the federal government would be $50 billion to $65 billion a year, when fully phased in, and said the revenues from rolling back the tax cuts were enough to cover it.” (Robin Toner and Patrick Healy, “Obama Calls For Wider And Less Costly Health Care Coverage,” The New YorkTimes, 5/30/07)
Obama’s Energy Plan Will Cost $150 Billion Over 10 Years, Equal To $15 Billion Annually And $60 Billion Over Four Years. “Obama will invest $150 billion over 10 years to advance the next generation of biofuels and fuel infrastructure, accelerate the commercialization of plug-in hybrids, promote development of commercial-scale renewable energy, invest in low-emissio ns coal plants, and begin the transition to a new digital electricity grid.” (Obama For America, “The Blueprint For Change,” www.barackobama.com, Accessed 1/14/08, p. 25)
Obama’s Tax Plan Will Cost Approximately $85 Billion A Year; Equal To $340 Billion Over Four Years. “[Obama’s] proposed tax cuts and credits, aimed at workers earning $50,000 or less per year, would cost the Treasury an estimated $85 billion annually.” (Margaret Talev, “Obama Proposes Tax Code Overhaul To Help The Poor,” McClatchy Newspapers, 9/19/07)
Obama’s Plan Would Raise Taxes On Capital Gains And Dividends, And On Carried Interest. Obama’s tax plan includes: “[i]ncreasing the highest bracket for capital gains and dividends and closing the carried interest loophole.” (Obama For America, “Barack Obama: Tax Fairness For The Middle Class,” Fact Sheet, www.barackobama.com, Accessed 1/8/08)
Obama’s Economic Stimulus Package Will Cost $75 Billion. “Barack Obama’s economic plan will inject $75 billion of stimulus into the economy by getting money in the form of tax cuts and direct spending directly to the people who need it most.” (Obama For America, “Barack Obama’s Plan To Stimulate The Economy,” Fact Sheet, www.barackobama.com, 1/13/08)
Obama’s Early Education And K-12 Package Will Cost $18 Billion A Year; Equal To $72 Billion Over Four Years. “Barack Obama’s early education and K-12 plan package costs about $18 billion per year.” (Obama For America, “Barack Obama’s Plan For Lifetime Success Through Education,” Fact Sheet, www.barackobama.com, 11/20/07, p. 15)
Obama’s National Service Plan Will Cost $3.5 Billion A Year; Equal To $14 Billion Over Four Years. “Barack Obama’s national service plan will cost about $3.5 billion per year when it is fully implemented.” (Obama For America, “Helping All Americans Serve Their Country: Barack Obama’s Plan For Universal Voluntary Citizen Service,” Fact Sheet, www.barackobama.com, 12/5/07)
Obama Will Increase Our Foreign Assistance Funding By $25 Billion. “Obama will embrace the Millenn ium Development Goal of cutting extreme poverty around the world in half by 2015, and he will double our foreign assistance to $50 billion to achieve that goal.” (Obama For America, ” The Blueprint For Change,” www.barackobama.com, Accessed 1/14/08, p. 53)
Obama Will Provide $2 Billion To Aid Iraqi Refugees. “He will provide at least $2 billion to expand services to Iraqi refugees in neighboring countries, and ensure that Iraqis inside their own country can find a safe-haven.” (Obama For America, “The Blueprint For Change,” www.barackobama.com, Accessed 1/14/08, p. 51)
Obama Will Provide $1.5 Billion To Help States Adopt Paid-Leave Systems. “As president, Obama will initiate a strategy to encourage all 50 states to adopt paid-leave systems. Obama will provide a $1.5 billion fund to assist states with start-up costs and to help states offset the costs for employees and employers.” (Obama For America, “The Blueprint For Change,” www.barackobama.com, Accessed 1/14/08, p. 15)
Obama Will Provide $1 Billion Over 5 Years For Transitional Jobs And Career Pathway Programs, Equal To $200 Million A Year And $800 Million Over Four Years. “Obama w ill invest $1 billion over five years in transitional jobs and career pathway programs that implement proven methods of helping low-income Americans succeed in the workforce.” (Obama For America, “The Blueprint For Change,” www.barackobama.com, Accessed 1/14/08, p. 42)
Obama Will Provide $50 Million To Jump-Start The Creation Of An IAEA-Controlled Nuclear Fuel Bank. Obama: “We must also stop the spread of nuclear weapons technology and ensure that countries cannot build — or come to the brink of building — a weapons program under the auspices of developing peaceful nuclear power. That is why my administration will immediately provide $50 million to jump-start the creation of an International Atomic Energy Agency-controlled nuclear fuel bank and work to update the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.” (Sen. Barack Obama, “Renewing American Leadership,” Foreign Affairs, 7-8/07)
By Peter
May 21, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Hey Jim…… You Republican’s talking about this…… “More Family Values”
Associated Press Published on: 05/16/08
LOUISVILLE, Ky. — Republican Mike Huckabee responded to an offstage noise during his speech to the National Rifle Association by suggesting it was Barack Obama diving to the floor because someone had aimed a gun at him.
Hearing a loud noise and interrupting his speech, Huckabee said: “That was Barack Obama. He just tripped off a chair. He’s getting ready to speak and somebody aimed a gun at him and he — he dove for the floor.”
Yes this is just what Republicans like to talk about…..
Of course it doesn’t make for great relationships within our America, but hey are Republicans really trying to unite America?
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
First, thank God for Richard Nixon. That’s right. Do it. You’ll rt
U be a wiser and better person for it.
Second, “tracher”/Teacher @ 9:03 hits the high mark for the day with the irrefutable (as in go ahead, try it) observation that “A scary thing about educated racists is that they know how to lie about being racist.”
That’s essentially what Jim did in his remarks on Sen. Obama’s reception in Oregon. And now, Teacher’s Challenge: Can you explain why and how?
By George Washington
May 21, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
With all due respect deegee, Israel is the problem, not the solution.
By Dave
May 21, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Great posts Peter and Dirty Harry!
Seems to me reading the posts over the past 2 or 3 days…even THIS neo-con cheerleading blog has had WAY more of us that want real change. Liberals and a few few former GOP fans that know we can’t have more of the same…That THIS is the “deepest and darkest” our nation has ever become…and it happened because of the GOP and values voters. You know those that vote based on “fear”… fear of “the make believe”….
GOP is TOAST for ANOTHER 40 years… yet sad to say…it will probably take longer than that to fix the damage that Dubya and Co. have done.
My only hope is that they are put on trail before the world…for ALL to see. From the war crimes they have committed, to the abuse of our constitution and amendments, and for the laws they have broken….
Thanks to ALL you LIBERALS (and those that continue everyday to switch parties)! LIBERAL=Badge of Honor! Keep calling us that…nothig could make us prouder!!!
By Sean
May 21, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
I enjoy the healthy debate this forum allows. I am a Conservative and will vote for the most conservative candidate (McCain) this Fall.
Here is a little advice to all of the transplant liberals here in Atlanta: If you want to make your B.O. vote mean something, you better move to another state. The state of Georgia will never elect a Facist Liberal like Barry.
By MV7
May 21, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
No way can Obama win the south, without the south you can’t be president. Like it or not it’s racial. No one will admit that in an exit poll but KY primary shows exactly what the dems fear the most. While McCain isnt a strong candidate in many conservatives eyes, he wins hands down in big Northeast states (NY, PA) while winning the south (exception maybe VA). It will be fun to watch the liberal crowds wailing and gnashing of their teeth when their savior loses by a large majority. Without the hanging chads, what else can they blame?
By The Truth
May 21, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
in response to tired of ignorance - There is much to consider in the upcoming election and this is just one facet. Regardless of who you are leaning towards, you might find the following to be quite an eye opener.
Granted, at the moment its all “campaign proposals” and would need to be “enacted”, but if it were… Just how would it affect you?
Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:
CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN 15% (no change)
OBAMA 28% CLINTON 24%
How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.
DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN 15% (no change)
OBAMA 39.6%
CLINTON 39.6%
How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama or Clinton become president. The experts predict that “Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.”
INCOME TAX
MCCAIN (no changes) Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500 Single making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 60K - tax $9,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250
OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
CLINTON (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
How does this affect you? No explanation needed. This is pretty straight forward.
INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
OBAMA keep the inheritance tax
CLI N TON keep the inheritance tax
How does this affect you? Many families have lost businesses, farms and ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will not only lose them to these taxes.
NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY BOTH CLINTON AND OBAMA
New taxes on retirement accounts and last but no t least….
New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!
Can you afford Clinton or Obama? I can’t!
In case you want more information on Obama’s tax and spend agenda:
If Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) Could Enact All Of His Campaign Proposals, Taxpayers Would Be Faced With Financing $874.35 Billion In New Spending Over One White House Term:
Updated February 14, 2008:Obama’s National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank Will Cost $60 Billion Over Ten Years; Equal To $6 Billion A Year And $24 Billion Over Four Years. Obama: “I’m proposing a National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank that will invest $60 b illion over ten years.” (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks On Economic Policy, Janesville, WI, 2/13/08)
Obama’s Health Care Plan Will Cost Up To $65 Billion A Year; Equal To $260 Billion Over Four Years. “[Obama] campaign officials estimated that the net cost of the plan to the federal government would be $50 billion to $65 billion a year, when fully phased in, and said the revenues from rolling back the tax cuts were enough to cover it.” (Robin Toner and Patrick Healy, “Obama Calls For Wider And Less Costly Health Care Coverage,” The New YorkTimes, 5/30/07)
Obama’s Energy Plan Will Cost $150 Billion Over 10 Years, Equal To $15 Billion Annually And $60 Billion Over Four Years. “Obama will invest $150 billion over 10 years to advance the next generation of biofuels and fuel infrastructure, accelerate the commercialization of plug-in hybrids, promote development of commercial-scale renewable energy, invest in low-emissio ns coal plants, and begin the transition to a new digital electricity grid.” (Obama For America, “The Blueprint For Change,” www.barackobama.com, Accessed 1/14/08, p. 25)
Obama’s Tax Plan Will Cost Approximately $85 Billion A Year; Equal To $340 Billion Over Four Years. “[Obama’s] proposed tax cuts and credits, aimed at workers earning $50,000 or less per year, would cost the Treasury an estimated $85 billion annually.” (Margaret Talev, “Obama Proposes Tax Code Overhaul To Help The Poor,” McClatchy Newspapers, 9/19/07)
Obama’s Plan Would Raise Taxes On Capital Gains And Dividends, And On Carried Interest. Obama’s tax plan includes: “[i]ncreasing the highest bracket for capital gains and dividends and closing the carried interest loophole.” (Obama For America, “Barack Obama: Tax Fairness For The Middle Class,” Fact Sheet, www.barackobama.com, Accessed 1/8/08)
Obama’s Economic Stimulus Package Will Cost $75 Billion. “Barack Obama’s economic plan will inject $75 billion of stimulus into the economy by getting money in the form of tax cuts and direct spending directly to the people who need it most.” (Obama For America, “Barack Obama’s Plan To Stimulate The Economy,” Fact Sheet, www.barackobama.com, 1/13/08)
Obama’s Early Education And K-12 Package Will Cost $18 Billion A Year; Equal To $72 Billion Over Four Years. “Barack Obama’s early education and K-12 plan package costs about $18 billion per year.” (Obama For America, “Barack Obama’s Plan For Lifetime Success Through Education,” Fact Sheet, www.barackobama.com, 11/20/07, p. 15)
Obama’s National Service Plan Will Cost $3.5 Billion A Year; Equal To $14 Billion Over Four Years. “Barack Obama’s national service plan will cost about $3.5 billion per year when it is fully implemented.” (Obama For America, “Helping All Americans Serve Their Country: Barack Obama’s Plan For Universal Voluntary Citizen Service,” Fact Sheet, www.barackobama.com, 12/5/07)
Obama Will Increase Our Foreign Assistance Funding By $25 Billion. “Obama will embrace the Millenn ium Development Goal of cutting extreme poverty around the world in half by 2015, and he will double our foreign assistance to $50 billion to achieve that goal.” (Obama For America, ” The Blueprint For Change,” www.barackobama.com, Accessed 1/14/08, p. 53)
Obama Will Provide $2 Billion To Aid Iraqi Refugees. “He will provide at least $2 billion to expand services to Iraqi refugees in neighboring countries, and ensure that Iraqis inside their own country can find a safe-haven.” (Obama For America, “The Blueprint For Change,” www.barackobama.com, Accessed 1/14/08, p. 51)
Obama Will Provide $1.5 Billion To Help States Adopt Paid-Leave Systems. “As president, Obama will initiate a strategy to encourage all 50 states to adopt paid-leave systems. Obama will provide a $1.5 billion fund to assist states with start-up costs and to help states offset the costs for employees and employers.” (Obama For America, “The Blueprint For Change,” www.barackobama.com, Accessed 1/14/08, p. 15)
Obama Will Provide $1 Billion Over 5 Years For Transitional Jobs And Career Pathway Programs, Equal To $200 Million A Year And $800 Million Over Four Years. “Obama w ill invest $1 billion over five years in transitional jobs and career pathway programs that implement proven methods of helping low-income Americans succeed in the workforce.” (Obama For America, “The Blueprint For Change,” www.barackobama.com, Accessed 1/14/08, p. 42)
Obama Will Provide $50 Million To Jump-Start The Creation Of An IAEA-Controlled Nuclear Fuel Bank. Obama: “We must also stop the spread of nuclear weapons technology and ensure that countries cannot build — or come to the brink of building — a weapons program under the auspices of developing peaceful nuclear power. That is why my administration will immediately provide $50 million to jump-start the creation of an International Atomic Energy Agency-controlled nuclear fuel bank and work to update the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.” (Sen. Barack Obama, “Renewing American Leadership,” Foreign Affairs, 7-8/07)
By Dusty
May 21, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
Oh, another great column by Wooten. He sees the picture so clearly, it obviously makes liberals here shiver. They feebly cry in quavering tones “Obama is our next president.”
God bless America and save us from such a fiasco.
If I wanted a “charmer” with good kharma, I’d vote for Obama. I want more than that.
Fortunately, I will be able to vote for a statesman, a military man of valor. a patriot with a set of ethics by which he lives. John McCain has already shown these values. I will vote for him to lead our country. He is our only hope for the future.
By deegee
May 21, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
And John McCain is still living in the ’60s when it comes to Cuba. While he was pandering to the Cuban “exiles” in Miami yesterday he had this to say about opening up talks with Cuba and partially lifting the embargo:
“These steps would send the worst possible signal to Cuba’s dictators — there is no need to undertake fundamental reforms, they can simply wait for a unilateral change in U.S. policy. I believe we should give hope to the Cuban people, not to the Castro regime.”
Cuba recently had a peaceful transition of power from Fidel to Raul. What are the chances of the Cuban “exiles” that are driving Republican politics in Florida, of returning to Cuba?
By B
May 21, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
What this all boils down to is that we have a Black man that’s willing to literally die for this country. You and I both know that a Black man with enough power to move a nation is a threat to white men everywhere. This presidency could very well be a death sentence for Obama, a fact that he and his family, as well as everybody whose not in denial, already knows. Knowing this, he is still running. Wanting to represent a country that still has issues with dark skinned people. A country where they care more for animals than they do people. A country that has a history of horrible race relations, all which are still prevalent today. White, insecure men, like Jim Wooten are the majority and the problem. You let your insecurities get the best of you. Threatened by black men when it comes to your women, threatened by the Latinos and Mexicans when it comes to your jobs. Keeping Haitians and Mexicans out of a country that you STOLE yourself. Such hypocrisy!!!! You republicans stole the elections and you have paid dearly for it. Losing control of the House and Senate and losing the trust of your people. Mr Bubba Bush has so much blood on his hands. The Iraqi War, twin towers, etc. Why didn’t we launch impeachment charges against Mr. Bush??? Barack is going to have to play clean up man both locally and internationally. Other nations don’t trust us, we don’t trust us. Thanks Bubba Bush!!!! You’re leaving us in a greater position than we were 8 yrs ago!!! Lowest presidential rating ever, again Thanks!!!!
By John Q. Public
May 21, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
I am not a Democrat, nor do I plan to vote for Obama, but it seems to me that McCain’s mouthpiece might want to think before speaking. When the GOP took over in 2001 (Bush & Co.), the US enjoyed “peace and prosperity”. It has only been through the failures and flawed decisions of the current administration that we now enjoy neither peace, nor prosperity (save ExxonMobil and Haliburton). Love ‘em or hate ‘em, the Bush administration has failed. I don’t know if Obama is the answer, but I know McCain is not. He’s Bush ver 2.0
By Frustrated Conservative
May 21, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
Copyleft-
I can’t speak for Wooten, but I can speak on behalf of myself, a McCain voter.
I am not thrilled to vote for McCain. This is a truly uninspiring and depressing nominee the republicans have come up with. Is this the best they can do?
However, as bad a canidate as McCain is, he is still 100 times better than Obama. There is no way, no how, an extreme and controversial liberal like Obama can win the general election, no matter how bad the republican nominee.
That is what is funny about this. How bad the Democrats are blowing an opportunity of a lifetime. The republicans are just begging to get beat this election, just like they were in 2000. But instead of learning from history, the democrats are refusing this gift by trotting out unelectable losers like Kerry and now Obama, who is much worse than Kerry. When it comes to battling the GOP on a national scale, the democrats are truly idiots.
History shows that the only Democrats that are capable of beating a republican for President is one who looks and talks like a moderate, or almost like a Republican. Clinton and Carter were good ole Southern boys who seemed moderate on the issues and were people the swing voters in the red states could be comfortable with. But instead of nominating a canidate who is electable, the democratic party allows it’s far left liberal elite faction to decide.
This is a truly awful election. But the democrats will lose again and it will be their fault. The republicans are so stupid its almost like they want to get beat. But, fortunately for them, the democrats chose Obama. LOL!!!!
By MikeB
May 21, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
Obama has oratory, and the timing is right for his message, but because of his track record/lack of experience (or lack there of I should say) he is the wrong person to carry it forward. Would GE hire a person with his experience to replace Jeffery Immelt? Would GM hire him if Rick Wagoneer were to retire? No way….. Not nearly as seasoned as he needs to be for either of those posts, much less being President of the United States of America. Now if Colin Powell was waving the same flag, I would give him every consideration. That said our federal govt. needs to be focused on a very few specific key objectives moving forward. The Fed does not need to be all things to all people.
The Federal Govt. needs to focus on national security, economic stimulation of our free market economy, maintaining federal highways, protecting jobs/ability to innovate here, and taling care of the elderly, mentally retarded and children as long as they are citizens.
Anything else is a waste of their time. The guy in this race who is closest to this agenda, is John McCain. He’s not perfect, but who is……
By dirty harry
May 21, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this By Glenn
May 21, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
GLENN, you post this “The “bomb, bomb, bomb” thing was more than five years ago.”
I hate to tell you this Glenn but your math is not very good!
McCain made that rant on April 20th, 2007….
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
First, thank God for Richard Nixon. That’s right. Do it. You’ll rt
U be a wiser and better person for it.
Second, “tracher”/Teacher @ 9:03 hits the high mark for the day with the irrefutable (as in go ahead, try it) observation that “A scary thing about educated racists is that they know how to lie about being racist.”
That’s essentially what Jim did in his remarks on Sen. Obama’s reception in Oregon. And now, Teacher’s Challenge: Can you explain why and how?
By Dusty
May 21, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
Oh, wish I could stick around today and get more laughs from liberals.
Peter-uh oh —-he found a “bad” Republican. That setttles it. Vote against family values. Vote Obama.
George “Cherry Pit” Washington—”Israel is the problem.. Yeah, let’s arm up against our ally in the Middle East.
Dave (living in free and protected America) —”This is the deepest and darkest our nation has ever become.” Cheer up, Dave. Democrats are going to LOSE!
dirty harry—“The rats are beginning to jump ship.” If liberals are aboard, let ‘em jump. They usually cut’n’run.
Copyleft (biggest joker of them all) tells us that Obama has already won and “Liberalism will save this country! Oh, please, please, do “save” me with high taxes, socialized medicine, terrorist appeasement, inexperience and anti-American confidants. Whoopeeeee and I can learn to be an anti-war protestor.
Liberals! I never thought they would be comedians but they surely do make fools of themselves.
By B.W.
May 21, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
Perhaps its time to note that Hillary may be on the verge of the greatest “I told you so” in the history of politics…… Here’s hoping that after the general election, she gets to say it.
By dirty harry
May 21, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
A tribute to Dusty….
Well, I wus lookin’ everywhere for them gol-darned Terrorists. I got up in the mornin’ ‘n’ looked under my bed, Looked in the sink, behind the door, Looked in the glove compartment of my car. Couldn’t find ‘em …
I wus lookin’ high an’ low for them Terrorists everywhere, I wus lookin’ in the sink an’ underneath the chair. I looked way up my chimney hole, I even looked deep inside my toilet bowl. They got away …
BOB DYLAN….
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Andy, Calamari, Anyone:
Any thoughts as to whether Atlanta might get it’s newspaper back were Cox News to eat you-know-what and die?
How about the UGA J-school making amends by taking back journalism from The ME-dee-yuh by entering into a public/private partnership with AJC? To show how Old School Journalism is done, and to spearhead a resurgence of the Press in America?
I’m dead legally serious about this. Whaddya say?
By B.W.
May 21, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
Perhaps its time to note that Hillary may be on the verge of the greatest “I told you so” in the history of politics…… Here’s hoping that after the general election, she gets to say it.
By The Truth
May 21, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
That’s Barack Hussein Obama Bin Laden McGovern.
By B.W.
May 21, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
Perhaps its time to note that Hillary may be on the verge of the greatest “I told you so” in the history of politics…… Here’s hoping that after the general election, she gets to say it.
By Ralph McGill
May 21, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
As Henry said in The Paper: “It’s not gonna happen.”
By Republicans for Obama
May 21, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
My dear Friends of the GOP…we got us a boy here, don’t we. He don’t think like we do, he don’t do like we do. He’s a liberal whinny nosed kid trying to run the country. What he don’t realize is we don’t kindly to his kind… Sound familiar? I think this would apply to the majority of hate mongers and RACIST on this blog. In my opening line, I have heard this, as I’m sure most of you have, either from our friends or OUT OF YOUR OWN MOUTHS. During Dubya’s Presidency, I’ve come to realize that this treatment of people is flat wrong. To make these off based and often horrendous statements about people of color and those that are not like us IS WRONG. I had a black man ask me a few years ago “WHY DO YOU HATE US SO MUCH?” That answer still eludes me. So I ask you hatred filled Republicans…”WHY?” It’s frightening were our country has gone, and even more frightening when I consider the future if we continue like this. John McCain represents all that is now wrong with our country, and he embraces it. You fools are lining up with him because he is white. The Red Dems are lining up with him because Sen. Obama is black. Look at us!!! Instead of doing what is right for OUR country, we are letting the Wootens, Hannitiy’s, and Rush’s of the world determine our future. It’s an embarrasing and ugly dead end, and like cattle, we are stampeding towards the end. Patriotism is not Racism and Hate. Or did I miss that? God Help Us.
By ron
May 21, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
Glenn,The AJC,sans Cox,could be a viable newspaper depending of course on the owner.If you were to own it,everything in it would be to your liking.If I were to own it,sameoh.It takes a special kind of person to run an unbiased newspaper.Know anyone that could print plaudits about Obama,Hillary and George Bush with equeal aplomb?I’m not sure I do.I would like to see all the big boys gone from the publishing business though.Ever read the Brattleboro Reformer?That’s a name I picked up from Fox News.Very left wing owner.Now imagine the AJC under the auspices of Cynthia Tucker.Or Jim Wooten.Slanty news anyone?
By jbmlaw
May 21, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this
Dear Thor @ 9:14, are you telling us that Obama is proposing the same policies as Bush? I thought this was all about “change.” Oh, the agony!
Dear Tracher @ 9:30, if I read your post correctly, anyone who opposes Obama calling him a “leftist” is a racist, but those who support him without regard to his politics are not? Why does that cause me to identify with Inigo Montoya? I think our friend Glenn nailed your inconsistency @ 10:55.
Dear College @ 9:31, when I argue that “those who do not know the past are condemned to repeat it,” I am trying to send you, in particular, a message. Study up. Learn what strategies, both domestic and foreign, were tried in 1977-1981, and analyze their success. Then contrast those policies with the offerings of Obama. Doing the same unsuccessful things repeatedly, all the while expecting different results, is the democrat platform for 2008.
Dear Tired @ 9:46, your problem, with all due respect, is your world outlook: “It’s all about me.” I understand that rich folks control the government and run it primarily for the benefit of rich folks, and when the multimillionaire Obama takes over that fact will not change. The beauty of the Bush tax cuts is that is lessens that which the overlords control. By leaving more resources with real people, instead of vesting those funds with the overlords, we have less market dislocation and more growth overall. Leftists don’t care about efficiency or growth, both of which always directly result from tax cuts. And, of course, the great joke is that the Bush tax cuts were only cuts in rates, with no real effect on revenues. If you do a google on Obama’s, words, you will discover that he now understands that the elimination of the tax “cuts” will actually diminish tax collections. Law of unintended consequences. Leftists always assume people with substantial resources will not do tax planning; the leftists are mostly wrong about that, too.
Dear Dave @ 9:46 and Get Real @ 9:50, I think you both accurately state the issue. 2008 is Jimmy Carter vs. George W. Bush. Pick your poison. I’ll go with the one who pushed tax cuts and building up the defense program. Tax cuts always help the economy, and cutting defense spending always hurts the US’s international relations. Oh, and Get Real, a police state? Dick Cheney told me to tell you to remove your tin hat, today is “free brain waves” day.
Dear Ron @ 9:55, I regretfully agree with your argument. (Although, don’t disparage Dr. Sowell – he’s not an isolationist like Barr or Paul.)
Dear Copyleft @ 9:58, “Liberalism will rescue this country…” Right, that is how the overlords justify an abomination like Kelo. Kelo is the legacy of leftism.
Dear Scholar @ 10:02, I would like to argue that nothing sucked until the democrats started putting corn in our gas tanks and raised unemployment by legislation (minimum wage.) I would like to argue that nothing sucked until the cowards starting undermining our now-successful efforts in Iraq. I acknowledge the Nixon simile is valid. President Bush will have a strong foreign policy legacy for rebuilding the military and waging war against Islamists, but his domestic agenda will cause historians to scratch their collective leftist head. How could a purported conservative favor increases in agriculture (code for welfare), centralized control of education (NCLB), steel quotas (a sop to organized labor), and a weak dollar policy (W. J. Bryan was firmer in his support!) Only the tax cuts and the court appointments showed any intelligence in the domestic policy.
Dear John @ 10:44, can you cite any particular failure and flawed policies of the Bush administration that caused the “absence” of peace and prosperity? The economy is growing, and there is no fighting in the streets (this is not exactly 1968) but I suspect the leftists are too old for that now.
By time for the liberals are worthless scum truth
May 21, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
This nauseating fawning over the brain tumour of the gutless alcoholic vehicular homicide killer of Mary Jo Kopechne is as despicable as it gets!!
- The mysteries of the case continue to haunt Ted Kennedy as well as the authorities who investigated them. Charges of ineptitude and lack of diligence abounded, as did insinuations that the machinery of justice crumbled beneath the power and prestige of the Kennedy family. George Killen, former State Police Detective-Lieutenant, and chief of a never-revealed investigation, lamented that the failure to bring the case to a satisfactory conclusion was “the biggest mistake” of a long and distinguished police career.
Senator Kennedy, he said, “killed that girl the same as if he put a gun to her head and pulled the trigger.”
From ~ Senatorial Privilege by Leo Damore
The real truth about the drunken killer Kennedy and the shameless Assachussetts cover up is well worth revisiting.
http://www.ytedk.com/intro.htm
The scumbag Kennedy has had almost FOURTY years of life that he denied to Mary Jo. After he ran away and hid and sobered up like a typical demoNcrat, drunk as a skunk to salvage his worthless political career. Kennedy paid NO price for his selfish reckless behaviour that deprived one of the “Boiler Room Girls” of her life”. Funny how the leftist filth in America rarely if ever actually comment on this and unequivocally condemn Kennedy, or remind folks of this stark Kennedy cowardice.
Yet in 1973 Kennedy puked up this odious hypocrisy:
” Do we operate under a system of equal justice under law? Or is there one system for the average citizen and another for the high and mighty? ” ~ Senator Ted Kennedy, 1973
By Brian Walker
May 21, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
Jim
Enough. Screaming liberal all day will only get you so far. The fact is that 6 of the last 8 presidental terms have been served by Republicans. There are serious issues in this country right now and I simply cannot support the party who has not gotten the job done. We are all Americans…that doesn’t change because we lean left or right of center. The problem with the Republican party is that it is no longer the party of Reagan, it is the party of Bush…and the message of conservatism has gotten seriously off track behind “national security” and the “cure-all” of lowering taxes. I think this country is truly ready for a change…whether Barack Obama is the agent of that change remains to be seen. I do know that as low as the common working person’s pocket continues to hurt with high gas prices, stagnant salaries, continued outsourcing with jobs that replace those outsourced paying lower salaries the party is charge will suffer an image problem and that party right now is the Republican party. I find it interesting that obtaining advanced degrees to is equal to elitism when any working class parent aspires to send their kids to college. I find it interesting that people who have never served their country are so eager to send our soldiers into harm’s way over what amounts to ideology. I find it interesting that talking now equals groveling. Rhetoric is one thing..it will inspires certain factions to vote a certain way but the fact is compromise is a way of life. Israel deals with autocratic, terror harboring regimes not because it wants to but because it’s necessity of life being surrounded by nations that don’t like it. Our leaders must challenge its citizens to think objectively rather than continuing to polarize with wedge issues that no amount of legislation will eliminate.
By Brian Walker
May 21, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
Jim
Enough. Screaming liberal all day will only get you so far. The fact is that 6 of the last 8 presidental terms have been served by Republicans. There are serious issues in this country right now and I simply cannot support the party who has not gotten the job done. We are all Americans…that doesn’t change because we lean left or right of center. The problem with the Republican party is that it is no longer the party of Reagan, it is the party of Bush…and the message of conservatism has gotten seriously off track behind “national security” and the “cure-all” of lowering taxes. I think this country is truly ready for a change…whether Barack Obama is the agent of that change remains to be seen. I do know that as low as the common working person’s pocket continues to hurt with high gas prices, stagnant salaries, continued outsourcing with jobs that replace those outsourced paying lower salaries the party is charge will suffer an image problem and that party right now is the Republican party. I find it interesting that obtaining advanced degrees to is equal to elitism when any working class parent aspires to send their kids to college. I find it interesting that people who have never served their country are so eager to send our soldiers into harm’s way over what amounts to ideology. I find it interesting that talking now equals groveling. Rhetoric is one thing..it will inspires certain factions to vote a certain way but the fact is compromise is a way of life. Israel deals with autocratic, terror harboring regimes not because it wants to but because it’s necessity of life being surrounded by nations that don’t like it. Our leaders must challenge its citizens to think objectively rather than continuing to polarize with wedge issues that no amount of legislation will eliminate.
By dirty harry
May 21, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
Dusty, you are the most flippant, shallow person who posts on this blog.
You wear blinders and refuse to acknowlege what alomost everyone in this country has come to realize… That Bush and his sycophants are an abysmal failure.
I know you’ll come back with some BS reply, but to you I say…
“BLIND FAITH IN BAD LEADERS IS NOT PATRIOTISM”
By The good side
May 21, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten West Virginia is calling you to come home!
It’s amazing that you have not mentioned anything about the current Replublican Adminstration and our current terrible situations in this country!
By the Truth! Everyone knows if you stay in your house for 2 years you get to exempt a huge portion of the proceeds from Capitol Gains. You need to realy speak the truth.
Can someone tell me what experience does John M. has! Or what has he done?
This country needs to work together but yet we are fighting over if an African American woman is proud of her country when she has experience possibly racism and hatred all her life. A White roommate moved out of the dorm room becuase her mother and grand mother did not want her their!
Are you kidding me! What kind of people are you!
I get it CONSERVATIVE does not mean CHRISTIAN! Treat people like you wold like to be treated!
By Sarah
May 21, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
John McCain’s spokesman Tucker Bounds set it up:
“This election is fundamentally about who Americans can trust to secure peace and prosperity for the next generation of Americans.
That’s a laugh, especially since this is from the man who sang Bomb Bomb Iran to the tune of Barbara Ann by the Beach Boys: “I’m sorry to tell you, there’s going to be other wars. We will never surrender but there will be other wars.” ~ January 2008
As far as Obama not doing well in the South, tells you a lot about the educational level of the bottom of the barrel South. Educated people are voting for him, dumb hicks will continue to vote against their own best interest. In other news…the sky is up and grass is green.
By hotlanta
May 21, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Dirty Harry if you are looking for some terrorists just look at your pay stub. We found them. It’s a crime that they pay us the wages they do in this country.
By hotlanta
May 21, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Dirty Harry if you are looking for some terrorists just look at your pay stub. We found them. It’s a crime that they pay us the wages they do in this country.
By @@
May 21, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
The left is determined to make this election a referendum on white racism.
Well that’ll be difficult without Obama’s permission now won’t it Jim? What is it Obama says…”This campaign is not about race?”
Does Obama, himself, know what this race is about? Does he recognize the preferences of the individuals who are voting against him, and why?
Does he recognize the “preferences” of the individuals who are voting for him, and why?
Does the Democratic Party recognize that identity politics was, and is divisive of and within itself?
Not likely! The Democratic Party is stuck with their pigeonholing of the American people. Obama will be the dropping left in its’ wake of this absurd shipwreck.
Mark my words…the first black President will be a Republican. He will be elected on ideology alone, nothing more…nothing less is acceptable.
The Democrats have done Senator Obama a grave disservice by putting him on display in the arena where the lions will devour him.
Not only have they proclaimed him special, he truly believes he is.
Therein lies his problem with most of the AMERICAN people.
What was it he said about talking with America’s enemies? “If I can convince them?” as though many before him haven’t tried.
Well isn’t HE special?
By alan
May 21, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Can you “Repugs” win anything without the use of fear, intimidation, hatemongering, tension,war, etc ???
YOU AND YOUR ILK— Limbaugh, Hannity, et al don’t want to talk about the high gas prices, the state of the economy, the management of the war, etc…Yet you believe bringing up Rev. Wright is more patriotic.
You and your ilk are very uneducated and ARE THE PROBLEM. Money, money, money, ..race, race, race, race….that’s all you care about, and YOU OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES !!! alan
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Andy, Calamari, Anyone:
Any thoughts as to whether Atlanta might get it’s newspaper back were Cox News to eat you-know-what and die?
How about the UGA J-school making amends by taking back journalism from The ME-dee-yuh by entering into a public/private partnership with AJC? To show how Old School Journalism is done, and to spearhead a resurgence of the Press in America?
I’m dead legally serious about this. Whaddya say?
By ghost rider
May 21, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
continuing with my tribute to Dusty
Now Obama, he’s a terrorist spy, Lincoln, Jefferson and that Roosevelt guy. To my knowledge there’s just one man That’s really a true American: George Dubya Bush. I know for a fact he hates Terrorissts cus he attacked Irag!
Well, I fin’ly started thinkin’ straight When I run outa things to investigate. Couldn’t imagine doin’ anything else, So now I’m sittin’ home investigatin’ myself! Hope I don’t find out anything … hmm, great God!
BOB DYLAN
By dirty harry
May 21, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
By hotlanta
May 21, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
HOTLANTA…maybe I’m a little dense. I understand that the economy sucks, and I understand that people are being laid off right and left. But, what’s your point? This was nothing more then a parody to her “Bush has saved us from terrorists rants.
By The good side
May 21, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
These comments are very funny!
Everyone ie diplaying your dislike or possible hatred of these candidates!
When in truth if you make your own destiny!
We need to stop being divisive and start working on a coalition.
Does everyone know that we are using money from other Countries to sponsor our war. So who do you think is going to have to pay for that? ALL AMERICANS:
By the way West Virginia and Kentucky reflect are the less EDUCATED STATES. NUFF SAID!
By AmVet
May 21, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
College student,
You hit the nail on the head about the neo-cons doing the Jethro Tull (Living in the Past).
And after the news yesterday about Congressman Vito joining the ever growing list of these repulsive “family values” Republicans who get caught with their hands in the cookie jar, it is just like the Energizer Bunny, it goes on and on and on and on.
(BTW, how stupid can these “conservatives” get? The scumbag cheats on his wife and then gets the mistress to bail him out after a DUI!)
And I have theory about why they have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the modern world all the time.
While the rest of modern western civilization was living healthy balanced lives, the “conservatives” were suppressing all thoughts they deemed to be “deviant”. You know, drinking beer, enjoying sex, listening to rock and roll, questioning incompetent, immoral authority, experimenting with psychotropics in our youths, etc… And their list of taboos, is in many cases very, very, very long.
Just go to church and drink tea. And vote Republican, of course.
Well that works for awhile and then guess what?
These stifled prudes get SO hung up, SO miserable, SO psychotic that they virtually explode in disgusting, abhorrent behaviors. Think Jimmy Swaggart ad nauseum. And then multiply around “conservatism” by a factor of hundreds.
IMHO, they would all be much more contented people and useful citizens if they would just ditch their repressive and inane mythology, get laid and have a cocktail from time to time. Without feeling guilty about it!
Maybe then they wouldn’t rub their god in everyone’s face at every opportunity (think Judge Roy Moore) and obsess about telling other people how to live their lives when their own are such an abysmal train wreck…
By dirty harry
May 21, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
By ghost rider
May 21, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
GHOST RIDER…Please join in on “Talkin’ John Birch paranoid blues.” Do you play harmonica?
By Henry Grady
May 21, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
As Ralph wrote, quoting Henry from The Paper, “It’s not gonna happen.”
By IN THE NEWS
May 21, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
UTICA, New York – Democrat Barack Obama has sprinted out to a 10-point lead over Republican John McCain in a four-way presidential contest including Libertarian Bob Barr and Liberal Ralph Nader, the latest Reuters/Zogby telephone poll of likely voters nationwide shows.
By IN THE NEWS
May 21, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
why John McCain is afraid to speak with Iran. What is it about Iran that scares McCain so much? Or is it that McCain believes Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Ayatollah Khamenei are so crafty that they would trick an American President into inadvertently ceding the state of Maine or American Samoa to Iran? Or alternatively, is it that McCain simply does not know how to act in a manner different from his true political role model, George W. Bush?
By Ben Bradlee
May 21, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
As Henry referenced Ralph, quoting Henry from The Paper: “It’s not gonna happen.”
By IN THE NEWS
May 21, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
Oregon Exit Polls: Obama Handily Beat Hillary Among Whites, No-College, Less-Than-$50,000 Voters
By ghost rider
May 21, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this
By dirty harry
May 21, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
Dear dirty, Just thought I would help you out in finishing up Dylan’s ditty. I play a little, mostly guitar!
Got a band going?
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this
Hey ron, don’t say that! That really brings me down, that line about how if you owned the paper, you’d control content to your liking. Hay-yell NO! Content is up to reportage. The Paper would be focused on journalistic principles of fairness and accuracy/Accuracy/ACCURACY. Accuracy’s not objective truth, but it’s the next best thing: the minimization of ideomindfuktjayskoolmarketruth.
That’d be pretty good, don’t you think? And then, if Atlantans wanted their newspaper of record to fall into one ideological category or another, well then that’d be their problem.
And not the problem of a newspaper that is working hard to steamroll Atlanta with its pro-growth boosterism, to claim (or reclaim) the place for a particular party, to destroy for six days out of the week the specialness of the place and people it sops on The Seventh Day.
By Phil Bronstein
May 21, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Ben, Henry, Ralph, I don’t care about all that journalism crap – I just wish I had Sharon back.
By Jim's a Cherry Picker
May 21, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
Hi Jim,
Lost in all this fluff over whether or not Obama can back up his well spoken manner is the undeniable fact that our current two term president is not only poorly spoken, but is leaving this country in a shambles.
The last 12 years is kinda like the GOP crashed a party, ate all the food, insulted the guests, spilled purple kool aid on the floor, then questioned the host’s competence on the way out before emptying an ashtray in the driveway and squealing Hummer tires all the way down an otherwise quite street.
The GOP has quite a list of things to account for Jim.
Your denial is palpable.
By fearless fosdik
May 21, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
By Dusty
May 21, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
Dusty you say..Oh, wish I could stick around today and get more laughs from liberals.
Peter-uh oh —-he found a “bad” Republican. That setttles it. Vote against family values. Vote Obama.
Ohhhh Dusty, Peter found one? He may have listed only one.
Let’s see; Vito Fossella, Larry Craig, Mark Foley, David Vitter, Dan Burton, Newt Gingrich, Henry Hyde, Ted Haggard, Neil Bush, Bob Packwood, Dick Armey, Bob Livingston.
I could go on, but the point is the old family values nonsense is totally debunked.
By Dave
May 21, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
Dusty and JBMlaw…
so you STILL think that what Dubya has done is “right” and “correct” for this nation….that’s OK…no matter HOW GA votes…you still will lose.
Dems have ALWAYS made the stock market tick “upward”…how many times do I need to post the link?
Enjoying your $4 gas? Enjoying your home prices falling? Enjoying people being laid off?
Stock Market under dems:
http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/futureinvest/3022
*”Stocks Have Actually Done Better Under Democrats
Despite the behavior of the market during the last Presidential election, over longer periods of time, the stock market has done significantly better under Democratic administrations.”*
Tell me how you “talibangeilcals” think? teach me! Your so called “logic” is ALWAYS faulty at best…
show me YOUR charts…as I posted you the charts that can not be “spinned” upon…as all you do is spin…
I understand…when one READS and LISTENS to spin…they believe it to be the “truth”…kinda like believing the bible is true….
sad..so very very sad…
either way…you lose…
the REST of the nation cares not how GA votes…look at the recent test scores of the kids in this state….Always last…always making excuses…
GA…still LAST in education..and guess what?..it shows!!!
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
Lost in any inquiry—-direct or otherwise—-as to what the heck Barack Obama is talking about (specifics being desirable here)—-is a sincere and searching and bloody-great learned understanding of where we’ve been.
That’s right: Barack Obama stands for changing where we’ve been.
For the better.
By jbmlaw
May 21, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
Dear ghost @ 12:48 and dirty @ 12:37, Cheney asks that I forward this coded message for you:
I’m way too smart for you/Even my henchmen think I’m crazy/I’m not surprised that you agree/If you could find some way to be/A little bit less afraid of me/You’d see the voices that control me from inside my head/Say I shouldn’t kill you yet
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
Phil Bronstein,
Come find me, you cheep guttersnipe, you egomaniacal vulgarian.
Let’s talk Amelia, eh?
Failing that, Janine.
SOB.
Yours in waiting,
gtg
By AmVet
May 21, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
Jim’s a Cherry Picker,
That is one of the best descriptions regarding this administration I have EVER read!
Kudo’s to you sir.
It is amazing to me that the neo-cons have neither the intellectual honesty or basic integrity to broach this distasteful subject.
About the only thing I see these days is the “Bush is not a conservative” pablum.
Yeah, no shiite Sherlocks! And you’re just now figuring that out?!
This, of course, coming from the proud and REAL conservatives who not long ago touted Bushco as the very paragon of American conservatism.
The silver lining to all of this is that as a group, they and their now completely repudiated ideology of failure are going to need a decidedly non-Reaganesque Moses to lead them out of this wilderness.
BTW, what irony that they were the minority party in Congress for…how long? You guessed it - forty years…
By Dave
May 21, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
The GOP is DEAD…only still ticking in GA… it makes sense…last in education and test scores…all i heard were “excuses” as to WHY the scores were so low…
Not ONE way to educate…it ALL makes sense that GA still votes for the GOP…
We laugh not WITH you..only AT you…but to be honest…we’re SAD for you…as you are so clueless…
and you don’t REALIZE nor KNOW how all around the nation and world make fun of you…
sad
yup (go ahead…post what you you want…what i said was TRUE)…the WHOLE WORLD makes fun of GA! (it is sad in a way….really really sad…you could do SO much better…yet the test scores for the past 50 years tell so very much)…nothing has changed…you can’t shake it…not until MORE of us Yankees move in…and FINALLY take control….it will THEN be a state that will “tick up”…
the test scores CONSTANTLY tell the TRUTH…over and over and over…don’t blame ANYONE but yourselves….
This has been going on for WAY too long (the LOW test scores)….the worst of the worst…how FRIGGIN’ sad you can’t do something about it…
By TIRED OF WOOTEN'S CRAP
May 21, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
Can we get at least one piece of substantial policy that the Republicans have implemented on the last year, that DOESN’T deal with fear? What have they done in regards to domestic policy? How have they improved the lives of the American public? In the words of Ronald Reagon, the Idol of all you Republicans, “ARE YOU BETTER OFF NOW THAN YOU WERE EIGHT YEARS AGO?”
You’re supposed to be a journalist Wooten. Write about facts, and kill the propaganda crap. The Republicans have no platform to run on so they just throw crap against the wall and see what sticks. Tell me Wooten, what will McCain do to turn this stinking economy around? What is his foreign policy besides more wars, and not speaking to people he doesn’t agree with (childish). Inform the public instead of inciting them. Thats true journalism! You suck!
By jbmlaw
May 21, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
Dear Brainless Dave @ 1:08, your argument, that mere democrat control of the presidency causes the stock market to rise, is vacuous. Why is it that moonbats believe there is causation for everything in the world (usually global warming) except the big bang and the gyrations of the stock market? You will note that every post I offer discusses causation; that is the way economists work. Since you seemingly operate from the opposing prevalent discipline, shamanism, I would desperately love to hear your explanation of the causation within your observation.
By Peter
May 21, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
The great Dusty writes….
Peter-uh oh —-he found a “bad” Republican. That settles it. Vote against family values. Vote Obama.
My thoughts are you are very Non American in your attitude, and no different than a German during Hitler’s time.
He thought invading other countries was the “Right” thing to do….. Just the same as George Bush did, as he wanted the oil, not to “Free” the people.
Just as former Fed Chairman Greenspan said, “the WAR was about OIL”.
All with eyes can see that “Faulty Intelligence” is just another in a long line of excuses.
Why do you dislike America so much Dusty?
Why do you dislike Americans so much Dusty?
If someone disagrees with you, you should at least have something worth saying back in a interesting bantering type of way.
I can see by what you write “Family Values” is something one makes up, and then changes like the weather.
There is nothing out there to prove Republicans have anything to do, or any knowledge of “Family Values”.
By @@
May 21, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
not until MORE of us Yankees move in
Are you here waiting for reinforcements Dave or are you planning on coming here?
By The Truth
May 21, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Dave, I have yet to read one article that says the whole world hates Georgia. Where did you read that? And, more of you yankees taking over? Oh, so are you going to give us massive unemployment like Michigan or high taxes like NJ and NY? What test scores are you speaking of? I believe that you may have schizophrenia by the way you word your crazy sentences.
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
I see that the CoxUps have managed to serve the one blog, but not the other. Two at once is at least one too many for Cox. Yet another indication that Cox never should have farmed out its Eastern operations to the Former Soviet Union.
Next there will be ration lines at the newsstands to get daily copies of Cox product. A genuine shortage, perhaps, and then a trumped one, just to drive the drama on which these breathless fools thrive.
Know why they’re so breathless?
Because they’re at a loss for words.
By JK
May 21, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
Dear TIRED OF WOOTEN’S CRAP, those are great questions, but you’ll get no answer from Mr. Wooten. The term “journalist” in no way connotes objective or substantive reporting to him or his peanut gallery. The evidence is clear not only in his juvenile pejorative statements about all things not GOP, but also in the blind eye he turns to the torts and crimes of those for whom he does prep-school-Bush-Jr.-style cheerleading. The wooten-headed bloggers can respond with nothing better than their continually-revised versions of history, and oh yes, by calling you a “moonbat.”
By The good side
May 21, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
Oops!
I cannot understand why GA is last in Education! You mean GA is behind West Virginia and Kentucky! Oh my goodness! Has John Macbush said anything about education? Does he plan on implementing No child left behind! Oh that is Bushes Idea he voted for!
By jbmlaw
May 21, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
Dear Tired @ 1:28, you operate with a fundamental misconception of the purpose of government. Government does only three things well: (1) it kills people more efficiently than any other system ever devised by man; (2) it is the most effective means of depriving people of their God-given freedom; and (3) it is the most effective way to steal private wealth. Once you have that wisdom, you understand that the best government is that which is least. The short answer to your question is that we are all immeasurably better off today than eight years ago in three ways. (1) Islamist terrorists are on the run, rather than on the offensive, a stark contrast with the repeated hits of the 1990s. (2) There is now a large democratic Arabic country in the middle of the middle east. Not completely stable, but an amazing improvement over that which formerly facilitated my item #1. (3) The courts, formerly dominated by leftists, now have a conservative majority, and are reining in the excesses of the tort attorneys, even facilitating jail for some of the worst offenders. Rulings like Kelo are a thing of the past.
I agree there are clouds on the horizon. The democrats are poised to foster the largest tax increase in the history of the world, and that pall hangs over the economy. The democrats threaten to remove our troops from the middle east, a destabilizing action without peer (other than the similar leftist move in southeast Asia in 1975 – but what’s 3,000,000 political deaths when we are talking about foreigners who don’t deserve freedom.) There is some risk that as many as four supreme court positions could open in the next four years (Stevens, Ginsburg, Kennedy, and Scalia), and a return to leftism would recreate the evils of the legislating judiciary.
By fearless fosdik
May 21, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
By Dave
May 21, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
The GOP is DEAD…only still ticking in GA… it makes sense…last in education and test scores…
Dear Dave I agree with everything you say.
But, I think it’s more how the child has been raised. If you are raised by loony parents you are going to become a loony adult. (KKK comes to mind)
My son and daughter attended Pope HS in Cobb county, and both graduated from UGA with honors in 1995 and 1998 ..After that both attained Their masters from Vanderbilt, and Williams and Mary respectively.
Neither was born here. And, neither wanted to stay here, due in most part because of the hate and narrow mindness of the south.
With the luxury of their education they were able to choose where they wanted to live..and, now both have departed the south and are extremely happy.
My daughter attended Obama’s rally in Portland, Oregon and confided in me she has never seen so many people in any one place at any time (And she attended all the DAWGS football games!)
“A CHANGE IS GONNA COME”
By The Truth
May 21, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
Dave, Which of the 57 states will you be campaigning with Obama this week? I mean seriously, the guy is a moron. Yesterday he says small countries like Iran can’t do us harm. Today he says that they are a great threat. And no, democrats have NEVER made the stock market tick up or down. The market does that on it’s own. Have you ever held a real job in America? Because even illegal aliens have a better sense of the market than you do.
By Michael
May 21, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Well, Jim, at least you’re consistent. Consistently full of sh*t.
By MKR12
May 21, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Isn’t it funny how quickly things have turned south since the Democrats took over Congress early last year? Anyway, this is how Democrats “tackle” rising gas prices: sue OPEC! If a Democrat loses an election - SUE! If a Democrat doesn’t like gas prices - SUE! SUE! SUE! SUE!
Liberal Democrat I-D-I-O-T-S.
What brainless moron liberal Democrat engineered this brilliant bill? Perhaps this is finally what Nanny Pelosi had in mind over two years ago when promising to curb rising gas prices during the congressional election of 2006. Brilliant. Just brilliant you pinheads in Congress. Let’s just give the Middle East ANOTHER reason to be p** off at us.
Maye if you asshat liberal Democrats and your environazi vote constituency would allow us to start drilling for our own oil, we wouldn’t be in this GLOBAL oil mess today. There is a reason Russia is trying to stake claim to the oil reserves near the North Pole.
Do you want more of these kinds of failed policies from the idiot left wing policy wonks? Vote Obama 2008!
By downwiddat
May 21, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
GA may have a poor school system, but that’s why so many Conservative parents who care about their children - care for them not being indoctrinated into liberalism in a government hell hole - send their children to PRIVATE SCHOOLS.
Now go stick that fact where the sun doesn’t shine, liberal hate pigs.
By The good side
May 21, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
JBM law: What does that stand for? I did not know the Middle east was unstable until America invaded Iraq.
CAN ANY REPLUBICAN/WAR CONSERVATIVE ANSWER this question!
HAVE WE CAUGHT OSAMA BBBBBIN-LADDDDEN?
Why is he still able to make comments 7 years later.
WE ARE THE STRONGEST NATION IN THE WORLD and little Osama can bomb our COUNTRY AND STILL LIVE.
THANKS MR. Bush, THANKS MR. Cheney now and you and the phony so-called AMERICANS go and talk to the people who lost their love ones in this tradegy and tell whay you have not CAUGHT THE FRIGGIN TERRORIST WHO BOMB NEW YORK instead of trying to state we are stopping terrorst in their tracks!
DO you have a brain or do you want us to believe everything about the STUPID WAR!
By Dave
May 21, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
The Truth?…no…we’re going to give you employment like we had unde Clinton..”the largest economic expanison in US history:…since 1776…
The numbers are true…they ring out loud…
It’s GA that still lags behind….PLEASE EXPLAIN the test scores…
All I read were EXCUSES>….I saw NO excuses from NY, CA…or any other state…. I guess everyone picks on GA… Nah…just idiots that voted in idiots…over and over again…
it is YOU to blame…you got what you wanted.
but DID you?
see…
Gays are STILL gay!
Abortions are STILL legal!
And that means…after I have sex with your dumb daughter (b/c you denied her a REAL sex education)..I’ll pay for the abortion! But the BEST part was…you DUMB daughter think jesus could SAVE her…and that she had NO CLUE as to what a man and woman do naturally….as the “animals” we are…we have…(close your eyes now)…SEX!!!! (dirty word outside of marriage right)?
East Cobb…I LOVE your 18 year old daughters!…keep them dumb…they STILL want it!
GOP=More gov’t in your lives…from taxes to dollars…to your bedrooms!…but hey…keep sex ed OUT of the bed room…your pretty little 18 year olds…LOVE what I show them!
Why is it that in NY whre sex ED is the rule…there are LESS abortions? Why is it that in GA where there is NO sex ED is there MORE pregnant teens>?
YOu always fail…over and over again…
But hey..I’ll continue to take advantage of your daughters…funny thing is…THEY LIKE IT~!
By Gov. Sonny - R (goober)
May 21, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
If the sky fails to produce rain: (1) Pray, (2) SUE ALABAMA! SUE FLORIDA! SUE SUE SUE!
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this
@@,
Danmitt, @@,
I’m waiting for you at the Ends of the Earth, but do not count us Yankees.
We’re honorary Islanders, and you know it.
By @@
May 21, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
Where did Dave the Dick go FearlessFos?
I, for one, want to thank you for The Truth @ 10:26. Never before have I seen The Truth so clearly posted. Made me think about a recent poll I saw.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 62% of voters would prefer fewer government services with lower taxes. Nearly a third (29%) disagrees and would rather have a bigger government with higher taxes.
Not surprisingly, conservative voters like less government while liberal voters favor a bigger government.
Fifty-seven percent (57%) of politically moderate voters prefer smaller government.
A separate survey found that most adults (56%) are worried that the next president will raise taxes too much.
This poll doesn’t fare well for Obama and the Democrats in November.
Farewell Democrats!
Farewell Senator Obama!
By browneyes
May 21, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
Well all and all…..I believe Hilary would be a great President…..
I just have mix feelings about Sadin Barack Obama…..if only we knew a little more about him….and if his wife is going to be first lady….she better be ready for attacks about the way she presents things to the public…she better watch what she says in public……..or does she wear the pants……time will tell……..is Obama the man of the house or is she….oh well…..cry baby….leave my wife out of it….no we will not….she better be ready to except what is coming with being the first lady……theres no crying in politics! or is there????? ha ha ha hopefully he will not have the whole United states blown up in a year are two after he is President…..because his wife was attacked about what she said….. God help us all…
By Brian
May 21, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
SuperDave the lib forgets that the Republicans ran congress during the Clinton years. See if that lib genius can come up with specific economic policies of Bill Clinton that caused the tech boom, which specifically led the stock market boom, which of course later collapsed post Y2K due to overvaluation of artificial and virtual capital that wasn’t really there to begin with.
It should be a long day for everyone waiting for SuperDave the lib to explain that.
By Please Get A Life WooTang
May 21, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this
No! Really! Please! Get a Life Wooten… How much are you paid to write garbage. The AJC should be ashame and they just lost a reader by Allowing your THINKING WRONG NO SENSE BLOG to continue. Real Change is scary isn’t it WOO-TANG.
By The Truth
May 21, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this
Dave, thanks for making rape threats at my daughter. I have made a screen grab of this page and will send it to the AJC and the proper authorities. By the way, I do work for a large IT company that can track where you are.
Just to bust another one of your fantasy bubbles, Clinton NEVER gave us jobs. That bubble burst before he left office. I will be visiting you in jail by the way.
By AmVet
May 21, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this
Is it just me, or did I note that not single solitary “conservative”, compassionate or otherwise, renounced that filth at 12:02 regarding Senator Kennedy.
Not one.
And to me that speaks volumes about “conservative” political kinship usurping basic human integrity and morality.
In fact, one of the non-conservative conservative regulars here actually welcomed back this despicable blogger and apparently human being after some absence!!!
Absolutely and disgustingly pathetic.
And I believe this goes to the very heart of the “conservatives” obvious and enormous problems these days.
Though the GOP has long been noted for being over represented with mean little pr!cks (Agnew, Gingrich, Barr, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al.), it apparently has become one of the major planks in the neo-con platform.
Along with intransigence, incompetence and unbridled hubris.
Thankfully, America seems to be (at last) fed up with these worst of the worst of the worst. I cannot see that they will again trust the people who just produced and enabled the worst administration in American history.
Only their craven cousins joined at the neo-con hip, like the good conservatives in Dixie who remained silent during an era of lynchings and murders, or the “good” Germans who kept quiet about Buchenwald and Auschwitz, will not renounce such repulsive sentiments.
Good luck with that this November neo-cons…
By The Truth
May 21, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
Dave, You better start running for the border my friend because I just phoned the editor of the AJC. Also, IF you actually knew my daughter you would know that she knows how to use a firearm and is trained to take scum, like you, down.
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this
So in view of the Clintons’ unflinching efforts to loophole their way through standards and rules and practices and procedures of democratic decency in their disgraceful pursuit of power, wouldn’t it be nice to look to someone who’d staked his tarnished reputation on the policing of fair elections?
Someone who’d gone so far as to ask his friends to establish a payroll for him toward that end—-that he might one day be the World’s policeman of clean elections?
Someone who’d actually asked others to foot the bill for the establishment of an elaborate organization to ensure the success of that ambitious salvage operation?
By fearless fosdik
May 21, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
By @@
May 21, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
This poll doesn’t fare well for Obama and the Democrats in November.
Farewell Democrats!
Farewell Senator Obama!
@@ HOW MUCH MONEY YOU GOT?
I’m in for a large wager how about you?
I’ll drink a few beers while I wait for your response!
By @@
May 21, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
We’re honorary Islanders, and you know it.
Sho nuff Glen…
once THE BIG ONE hits!
By The Truth
May 21, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
AmVet, How about condemning “dave” for making rape threats against my daughter? Senator Kennedy is going through a very tough time right now. Prayers are needed for him.
By @@
May 21, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Is it just me, or did I note that not single solitary “conservative”, compassionate or otherwise, renounced that filth at 12:02 regarding Senator Kennedy.
Not one.
Oh pooh AmVet! I know for a fact, that myself, Andy and Glenn have all expressed our concerns as well as our well wishes for Senator Kennedy.
We are a country where free speech is not only allowed, but encouraged. So way you when it suits YOUR agenda.
I can recall when a couple of Republicans were pronounced with a debilitating illness, the dems at Luckovich’s were hovering like vultures to take their seats.
Save your righteous indignation buddy.
By fearless fosdik
May 21, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
By @@
May 21, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
Where did Dave the Dick go FearlessFos?
IS THIS CODE..I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE INFERRING OR TALKING ABOUT!
Plain English will do just fine .. THANK YOU.
By AJC Hall Monitor
May 21, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
By time for the liberals are worthless scum truth May 21, 2008 12:02 PM This nauseating fawning over the brain tumour of the gutless alcoholic vehicular homicide killer of Mary Jo Kopechne is as despicable as it gets!!
Attn: AJC Hall Monitor: Do you ever review the posts of the postees? Please pray for this individual that he or she will stay on their medication.
By AmVet
May 21, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
The truth, I did not see the allegation you made. Frankly wading through every post here proves to be both cumbersome and very unprofitable.
However, I did go back to read the “offending” post.
Given your proclivity for hyperbolic rhetoric, which has become stand operating procedure for many, I was surprised someone would assert such a dastardly thing as you claimed.
And not to disappoint, your misrepresentation is clear.
Though vulgar (thankfully the conservatives have not YET eliminated the free speech clause of the first amendment) it is not even remotely close to what you describe.
It goes to consensual teenage promiscuity (They want it!) and the dangers therein. Exacerbated by predatory non-rapists. A very worrisome social problem today. Even for the girls in “good” families.
There was not the slightest inkling of the term RAPE. Which is, of course violently non-consensual and one of the more egregious felonies.
And everyone here who comprehends standard written English knows it.
I suspect you do as well…
By Peter
May 21, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
YES there is NOT One Wrong on this blog that can explain why we went to WAR in Iraq, instead of getting Bin Laden.
As some Americans can remember it was Bin Laden that attacked New York City, the Wrongs never complain we have not gotten him…They only applaud the WAR!
We all know the correct answer……King George and his hussies couldn’t make any money getting Bin Laden, so they made up the Weapons of Mass Destruction part, then Dick said Bin Laden and Saddam were in co-hoots, then they said it was “Faulty Intelligence”.
Wow I Guess that all makes sense……HA HA HA….. Yes!
By Dave
May 21, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Hmmm…gee @@ and The Truth (meaning you lie about everything)…is your 18 yo daughter no able to choose her own life? Maybe she HATES you…if I was her…i would! Your sad…your’ sorry, you only follw FAUX news and Jim here and as you source of news. You know…PROPAGANDA….
and you guys/gals..that talk about LESS gov’t?…this is by FAR..the LARGEST gov’t. spending we have ever seen in US history!!!!
It’s ALWAYS been handouts from the GOP to large corporations…why does Haliburtion have “no bid” contracts? ANY comapny that had an elected offical would stay out of the bidding…it would be the RIGHT thing to do…yet we give out tax dollars…billions abd billions to thos that gave the most to elect these idiots…
GA is Done…it’s toast…nobody cares how you vote in the general election…they won’t even count…
GA..LAST in EDUCATION and showing it every single day!
By Abba
May 21, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
Dave,
A number of points concerning your earlier chart link:
1) correlating stock market returns to a particular president should be done with caution. Lots of reasons for this:
(a) The gov’t has only two main levers it can pull to impact the economy: fiscal and monetary policy. In the short(er) term, the president can really only have a direct impact on fiscal policy.
(b) Implementation of fiscal policy doesn’t happen overnight - it’s probably unfair to take the first year to two years of stock market returns under a President and conclude that they are related to that President’s policies. I certainly don’t blame GWB for poor market returns in 2001, as the tech bubble burst six weeks after he took office. I also don’t credit Clinton for 1993 - he inherited a healthier economy than most people at the time realized.
(c) Monetary policy has a gigantic impact on stock market returns - probably moreso than fiscal policy. Greenspan was a Reagan guy and if you look at his view of the world, he was an inflation-fighter above nearly all else. That had a significant positive impact on the equity markets during his tenure as Fed Chairman.
2) In my view, it is overly simplistic to look just the eight Clinton years and say this was the biggest economic expansion in U.S. history. While that (narrow) view is indeed true, from a policy standpoint not much changed under Clinton. From a market and economy standpoint, the Clinton years (in my opinion) were really a continuation of a long-running upward economic trend that began in the mid-80’s, save for a small recession in late 90 leading into 1Q 91. Other than some small bumps along the way (such as 1990), economic data and stock market returns were very strong from the mid-80’s up until early 2001.
3) As for Clinton, I think his figures in that table you presented are benefitted somewhat by timing. If the tech bubble had burst in March 2000 instead of March 2001, his ending figures would still be impressive, but not as much as they are in the table.
4) The 1990’s economy was unique in that the economy enjoyed high growth with very modest inflation. It was as though the Phillips curve was defeated for good. The circumstances that led to this were unusual and had nothing to do with Clinton. Our economy benefitted mightily from massive amounts of foreign supply, principally from Asia. There was so much foreign supply for goods that even as the U.S. economy was taking off, American demand for goods was continuously met by this foreign supply, keeping the prices of goods down and inflation in check. Such happenings are indeed rare.
5) I do not believe that stock market returns are a proxy for overall economic health. Over the last nine months we’ve seen financial institutions write down over $200B in residential mortgages, gas is nearly $4/gallon, yet the Dow was back at 13,000 just the other day.
By @@
May 21, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
I’m in for a large wager how about you?
Just like a Democrat to waste their money.
I don’t gamble Dick.
My husband’s the gambler and does quite well, I might add. Every dollar he wins is a dollar the government can’t get their hands on. That alone brings him more joy than his winnings.
We’ll see what happens in November.
There’s one thing to be said for McCain. He’s no porker. I think that’ll suit the moderates just fine.
Plain english? You’re what I’ve come to know as a sockpuppet. You talk to yourself Dickless Dave.
Plain enough for ‘ya?
By Irony
May 21, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
To The Truth:
“By the way, I do work for a large IT company that can track where you are.”
I am not sure what Dave said to peeve you off, but since you work for a large IT company, or work for that matter, what are you doing posting on a blog during work hours? Also, I would be interested to see what your employers would say as you advised them that you need to “track” down a person who “threatened” your family while you were blogging on company time. Anyway, I am no lawyer but I’ll bet the process of discovery is more complicated than you would like to think (need to subpoena the ISP of the offender, etc.). Also, since the offender does not know you or your actual location or identity I would think that proving malice would be difficult (not a credible threat). Does jbmlaw or any other actual lawyer want to chime in?
By fearless fosdik
May 21, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
By @@
May 21, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
I’m in for a large wager how about you?
“Just like a Democrat to waste their money.”
Who’s wasting their money BUG EYES @@!
PUT UP OR SHUT UP! Are we Clear?
By Abba
May 21, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
It’s ALWAYS been handouts from the GOP to large corporations…
Dave,
I would take a long look at the Democrats’ relationship with Global Crossing before making statements like that.
By Abba
May 21, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
It’s ALWAYS been handouts from the GOP to large corporations…
Dave,
I would take a long look at the Democrats’ relationship with Global Crossing before making statements like that.
By MikeB
May 21, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
Compassion for Edward Kennedy????
Why………
How bout compassion and justice for the woman he murdered on Martha’s Vinyard?
Who know what else he has gotten away with over the years. Substitute compassion for disdain….. As for Obama? Talk is cheap….. Time for this inexperienced naive Senator to throw out the warm fuzzys and start articulating the specifics of how he will do, what he says he will do. But alas, he probably has no clue………
By @@
May 21, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
I’ll drink a few beers while I wait for your response!
Dickless Dave FauxDick:
Based on your 2:56 post, it would appear that you and your alter ego have had one too many beers.
is your 18 yo daughter no able to choose her own life?
Your sad…your’ sorry, you only follw FAUX news and Jim here
why does Haliburtion have “no bid” contracts?
ANY comapny that had an elected offical
billions abd billions to thos
Are we Clear?
I am. Does it ^^^ look like you are?
What was that you were saying about Georgia’s un-educated?
You a funny little fella Dickless…
in an odd sort of way.
By jbmlaw
May 21, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
Dear Abba @ 3:02. well argued. I would add three ideas, all at least to the partial credit of President Horndog. (1) He shepherded NAFTA through Congress, over objections of his party. The free trade boom that followed persisted throughout his second term, and had a great ameliorating effect after the dot com bubble burst. (2) He successfully negotiated a substantial reduction in “welfare as we know it” – I know, not that much, but the symbolism is noteworthy even if the actual reduction in the Federal take there is not. (3) He did not do much of anything else. That is a good thing. When governments do stuff, it always screws up the economy. I credit him for having the good sense to bob and weave and avoid any substantial government initiatives for eight years. Of course, the health care screw up probably contributed to the bunker mentality.
By AmVet
May 21, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this
GFY, @@
Good for you.
Why must you always try to “win” some argument with me, or in my absence anyone else who fits your labels? And for the life of me I can never understand why you always make it so personal. Nor why this would be so important to you.
I simply stated an irrefutable fact - that nobody had decried those repulsive “conservative” comments posted earlier today by the twisted brit (or whoever he is these days).
And trust me, you constantly look positively silly trying to score points that are not germane to that specific assertion and are either knowingly out of context or essentially irrelevant.
BTW, your awful penchant for speaking for/labeling others is crystal clear as I cannot ever recall the esteemed and erudite Mr. Gilbert calling himself a conservative. (Which is usually a dead give away that the poster is something VERY different).
So I cannot fathom why you apparently take most of my “righteous indignation” so personally. The comments were not directed at you.
And I’ve always found it interesting (actually there are other more descriptive adjectives!) that you shamelessly seldom practice what you preach.
To wit, coming from the very first and ONLY ONE of the uber-hypocrites who told me repeatedly I could take my free speech elsewhere when I first found that little slice of on-line heaven at MLs.
I did not tell the cretin to stfu. I simply asked others to recognize the filth for what is was. And to have the courage, when challenged, to denounce it.
I simply contend that when it is vomitously repulsive hate speech I WILL exercise my free speech rights to expose and denounce it.
To NOT do so is to be like the Germans and southerners I noted earlier who tacitly approved of such people.
And that p!sses you off ENORMOUSLY!
TOO F’ING BAD, @@.
By Dave
May 21, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
@@..the BEST things about you GOP lovers and bible teaching parents..is that your daughters think babies come from the stalk delivery service…
gays are STILL gay! ABORTION is STILL LEGAL!
and best of ALL your dumb pretty daughters STILL go to school in GA…LAST and ALWAYS LAST in education…hmmm…makes them SO easy!!! I LOVE it here!!! ONLY for that reason! ;-)
By Lily Toad
May 21, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
My husband’s the gambler and does quite well, I might add. Every dollar he wins is a dollar the government can’t get their hands on. That alone brings him more joy than his winnings.
He better be careful or he’ll be serving time with Bill Campbell. If you don’t know, Former Mayor Campbell was convicted of tax fraud because he claims all his pocket change came from gambling winnings, not pay-offs. Since he didn’t report his winnings, he evaded taxes.
By The Truth
May 21, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
AmVet, My daughter is 2 years old. Yes, Dave p** me off because he is a nut job. If you have children then you will understand.
Irony, Yes, I do work. IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE MEMORIAL DAY WEEK AND I’VE TAKEN SOME VACATION TIME. Yes, if ANYONE makes a comment saying that they are going to have sex with your daughter and get them pregnant then they do need to be prosecuted. It’s liberal idiots like yourself who can’t tell right from wrong. And no, you’re not a lawyer. You’re some random moron who has to chime in.
By guest02
May 21, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Is it just me or did no one else notice that Soulja Boy McCain married the Paris Hilton of her time?
Is it just me, or are there no Republicans that are worried that McCain will not serve his whole term - I mean he is 2,000 years old - and he already cannot move his neck! He is Moses’ GodFather for Cripes sake! He is showing early signs of dimentia - cannot remember a conversation from one hour to the next.
This is NOT someone I want taking the ‘RED PHONE’ call at 4 a.m.
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Mike B,
Either fight fair or go to Hell. Any mature adult would know that Mr. Kennedy’s FAMILY is JUST NOW, at the moment when you elect not to keep your powder dry, coping with a terrible blow while their normally strong defenses are down. Stifle, as Archie would say. At this time you could do actual harm.
By George Washington
May 21, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
Well Stupids, its time to pay the piper: oil hit $134.54 a short while ago: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU? THE END OF THE AMERICAN LIFESTYLE, THE DEATH OF THE DOLLAR, AND OH YEAH, YOU’RE FIRED. Remember who to thank for this disaster: ALL Neocons Everywhere. I myself just dumped another 20K into gold via ETF, but please do not follow me, I perfer to the only victor in this diaster. Its not too late to buy into USO, the oil futures ETF, but I already have a lot of oil investments including USO. Check out the supermarkets for a quick look at your future…Ever Rising Prices….Thanks Neocons, and a special thankie to Wolfoweasel, Liar Libbie, Filthy Feithie, and Pukie Pearlie…Remember their names when you are looking for someone to blame for turning your life to a piece of ……you know
By fearless fosdik
May 21, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
By @@
May 21, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
@@ BUG EYES.
YOU Post this diatribe..
Dickless Dave FauxDick:
Based on your 2:56 post, it would appear that you and your alter ego have had one too many beers.
is your 18 yo daughter no able to choose her own life?
Your sad…your’ sorry, you only follw FAUX news and Jim here
why does Haliburtion have “no bid” contracts?
ANY comapny that had an elected offical
billions abd billions to thos
Are we Clear?
I am. Does it ^^^ look like you are?
What was that you were saying about Georgia’s un-educated?
You a funny little fella Dickless…
in an odd sort of way.”
Yea we are clear…CRYSTAL Clear! As in the 12 martinis you have obviously partaken this afternoon.
I have no idea what you are saying. First of all I do not have an 18 year old daughter…My daughter is 32.
Point out where I said anything about Georgia’s educational system
look talking to you is like taking to a box of rocks … go have another martini .. along with some valium .. You’ll feel a whole lot better and maybe you’ll be coherent!
By The Truth
May 21, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
AmVet, The keyboard left out the number 1. She is 12 years old and not 2. So, please, don’t even sit there and tell me if someone made sexual threats about your children you’d just laugh it off. And yes, someone telling you that they would impregnate your daughter and then get her to have an abortion is a threat. Dave is a sick twisted piece of S%$%. Anyone with a brain can see that.
By George Washington
May 21, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
Hey you idiot Glenn, Teddy and his clan have done immense damage to America in each of the four decades he has ruled as one of the 100 sub dictators in WashingAss….All 100 current members of the Senate, and each and every former member can kiss my ASSets…
By dirty harry
May 21, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
An observation…There seems to be two @@ and two Dave’s posting on this blog .. Two are sane the other two need medication and a whole bunch of help.
By Dusty
May 21, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
Well, I’m back into this vale of liberal tears and conservative cheers!!YES!!
jbmlaw, @@ and several smart ones here are doing so well I may have to refer to Wooten’s good piece again. His words bring up important attributes and thoughts….like….
OBAMA is a Chamberlain, not a Churchill.
OBAMA may have to appoint a Supreme Court Justice..a lawyer…like his WIFE!!! HILLARY!!! WAXMAN!!! eiiiiyiii!!!!
Racists are working against OBAMA. Which side? His black half or his white half?
And *Spare me the Southern stereotypes here” writes Jim. Why,Jim, don’t you know those “liberal yankees” come here because it is the best part of the USA? Sadly, those libs haven’t learned any manners yet. But we have to have patience with our “visitors” like we do with all those who are a bit slow and uncouth.
Wooten also wrote quite accurately that [This country] will not now elect a president who runs as far to the left as Barack Obama.
You got that right, Jim Wooten. NOT NOW! NOT EVER!
By AmVet
May 21, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
It appears that Marietta’s favorite bar owner is “conservatively” intransigent and unrepentant.
But far be it from me, of all people, to denounce this model, if not infamous, citizen’s free speech rights!
His message board today reads: GI’s dying in Iraq. Thousands killed in quake. Gas $4.00 And a tee shirt makes the news. Shame. Shame.
If this sleazy bar thing doesn’t work out for him perhaps Karl Rove has an opening!
What a hoot…
By George Washington
May 21, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
Yo Truth, he did not say when he would impregnate, nor the method: Perhaps in ten years, via artificial insemination as he may be a fertility doc…..ya never know….
By Lily Toad
May 21, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
OK, you Conservatives, please tell me how you think we should pay off the immense deficit your beloved leader has gotten us into without raising taxes. Isn’t this a little bit like running up your credit card and then not paying?
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
Hey, you normally wise George, lay off. There are at least half a dozen reasons why you should let them alone now, and if you don’t want to do so then I’m glad to be called an idiot by you.
What a silly time to strut your stuff.
By AmVet
May 21, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
Truth, I am not in the business of speaking for others. Gawd knows there are plenty here that are MUCH better at that than I!
And though your anger is somewhat understandable, I think you give his words MUCH too much power. He appears to me, just another anonymous blogger who like, most of us, rather enjoys getting under each other’s skins.
I’m reasonably certain he is no real threat to your family and it is ALL harmless.
And yes, we all have our reasons to be proud. Family, careers, etc. And after all, we live in the greatest country in the history of mankind!
BTW, I am blessed with one child. A son - A1C, Lackland AFB. San Antonio, TX.
Dusty,
That your fervent hopes were true (NOT NOW! NOT EVER!).
But after the past eight horrific years of GOP “conservatism” I am not nearly so sure…
By George Washington
May 21, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
Well Lilly, we can not pay off the immense deficit run up by Dusty’s beloved Chimp….We instead will have to pay via a substancially reduced lifestyle, an inability to import essential goods (like oil, pharmaceuticals, most electronics), and the loss of tens of millions of relatively high paying jobs…not that those still working will be much better off, their lifestyles will be greatly reduced. The dollar had been our main advantage in the world, and when it dies, so will most of our power…just like the former soviet union…for a while we will still have a feared military, but it will be hollow, just like America….
By dirty harry
May 21, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
By Dusty
May 21, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
Well, I’m back into this vale of liberal tears and conservative cheers!!YES!!
Dusty, Have you ever thought NOBODY cares that you are back…I think Freud had a term for your feelings of such self importance that you would think anybody cares.
By Taxpayer
May 21, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
If jbmlaw actually believed what he posts, he would be out campaigning for Ron Paul or Bob Barr every moment that he was not working and earning money to contribute to their campaigns. Oh well. Talk is cheaper.
By Dusty
May 21, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
Read AmVet @3:45 for the best laugh of the day. AmVet is admonishing someone for NOT posting “nice” words.
AmVet, with a mouth like a mudflat, wants to tell others how to clean up their “act”.
I tell you. This fellow is far gone into foggy fields of fatuous futility.
By George Washington
May 21, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this
Hey Dave, not only is Ga last in education in America, America itself is in the lower half of the world education wise…third world countries are beating us on standardized science and math exams…yet Ga cannot even keep up other states…..Time to fire Kathy Cox and her ilk….
By Dave
May 21, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
AHHHH…what GA needs now is ANOTHER marriage ammendment on this years ballet….otherwise I plan on inviting lots and lots of lesbians down to come to GA to “turn your daughters gay”…because GAY only happens when other gays “corrupt” others…nobody is BORN like that! Just ask DICK Cheney’s daughter!!! :-)
By George Washington
May 21, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
HEY DUSTY, AH GOTS A CAREER FER YOUR FIVE BRATS…
High gas prices drive farmer to switch to mules
MCMINNVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - High gas prices have driven a Warren County farmer and his sons to hitch a tractor rake to a pair of mules to gather hay from their fields. T.R. Raymond bought Dolly and Molly at the Dixon mule sale last year. Son Danny Raymond trained them and also modified the tractor rake so the mules could pull it. T.R. Raymond says the mules are slower than a petroleum-powered tractor, but there are benefits.
“This fuel’s so high, you can’t afford it,” he said. “We can feed these mules cheaper than we can buy fuel. That’s the truth.”
And Danny Raymond says he just likes using the mules around the farm.
“We’ve been using them quite a bit,” he said.
Brother Robert Raymond added, “It’s the way of the future.”
By Peter
May 21, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
By Lily Toad
May 21, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
OK, you Conservatives, please tell me how you think we should pay off the immense deficit your beloved leader has gotten us into without raising taxes. Isn’t this a little bit like running up your credit card and then not paying?
JBlaw told me long ago on this Blog, when we win the WAR, the debt will get taken care of.
That is the logic from the Wrongs!
By AmVet
May 21, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
If you want “nice” words go to your church, prude.
And if you want to learn how to stop lying like a gutter-snipe do that as well.
Maybe they can teach you something/anything? (Thanks TR) about being honest. But I really, really doubt it…
By George Washington
May 21, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
* Barack Obama juggernaut ‘will crush John McCain* By Toby Harnden in Des Moines, Iowa Last updated: 8:49 PM BST 21/05/2008 Senator Barack Obama has established a battle-tested 50-state grassroots organisation and fundraising “juggernaut” that will crush John McCain in November, according to his senior advisers. With the Illinois senator declaring himself “within reach” of the Democratic nomination after achieving a majority of the pledged delegates - those allocated by vote - on Tuesday, his campaign has already pivoted to preparing for the general election against Mr McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee.
Although publicly heaping praise on Hillary Clinton, Mr Obama’s Democratic rival, and carefully avoiding putting pressure on her to drop out before the final states vote on June 3rd, the Illinois senator’s staff is impatient to launch a full-scale offensive against Mr McCain.
But they believe that the ferocious fight Mrs Clinton has put up has helped them build an organisation of unprecedented strength.
“I don’t think John McCain realises what he’s in for,” said one adviser. “We’ve created a juggernaut,” said another, “and it’s going to overwhelm him.”
They cite their internet fundraising operation, the grassroots organising network that secured victory over Mrs Clinton by winning a series of caucus states and hundreds of thousands of idealistic young volunteers as crucial advantages over Mr McCain.
Democrats have attracted colossal numbers of new voters - in just seven primary states in March and April, some one million new party members were registered.
At Mr Obama’s campaign headquarters in Chicago, the focus is firmly on the general election. Even on primary day on Tuesday with contests against Mrs Clinton in Kentucky and Oregon a large sign in the open plan office announced: “Countdown to Nov 4th -167 days”.
Joe Trippi, a Democratic consultant who pioneered some of the successful grassroots and internet techniques when he ran Howard Dean’s campaign in 2004, said that John McCain is already in “deep, deep trouble” because of a poor organisation and an anaemic fundraising total of about a fifth of the $500 million raised by Mr Obama and Mrs Clinton.
“Obama’s got the strongest organisation in history because of what he’s done with the internet and plugging volunteers into the paid organisers operation. McCain’s team is in a shambles. He has no organisation and no grassroots fundraising operation.”
More than 100 staff and volunteers, the majority of them in their 20s and dressed casually, work in the Obama headquarters, leased from the consulting firm Accenture on the 11th floor of a downtown skyscraper.
The atmosphere is akin to that of an internet start-up company - relaxed but with an earnest calm. Only a handful of senior staff have glass offices and there is none for Mr Obama himself, who drops in every time he returns to Chicago.
Although Mrs Clinton scored a 35-point victory in Kentucky, Mr Obama’s comfortable double-digit win in Oregon put him a whisker away from securing the Democratic nomination. On Thursday, he begins a three-day trip to Florida, a key swing state that is a must-win for Mr McCain.
Mr Obama has quietly begun to take over the Democratic party. Paul Tewes, who masterminded the Iowa victory in January that stunned Mrs Clinton and set Mr Obama on the path to the nomination, is expected to expected to run the party during the general election.
There have also been overtures to key members of Mrs Clinton’s staff.
David Axelrod, Mr Obama’s chief strategist, is understood to have held talks with Patti Solis Doyle, a senior Clinton adviser who was ousted as her campaign manager in February.
Mr Obama’s advisers believe he can win in states such as Iowa, Colorado, Virginia, New Mexico and Missouri that President George W. Bush won in 2004, though they concede they have work to do in Michigan and Florida, where he has not campaigned extensively because their primaries were disallowed by the party.
“We’ve become a very tested organisation, “said Robert Gibbs, Mr Obama’s communication director and his closest aide after Mr Axelrod. “We’ve built organisations in every place int his country. We don’t have to start building anything from scratch.
“Once we become the nominee, that’s going to be tremendously important for the fall [autumn] because as we’ve seen in the last two presidential elections, it’s all about turnout. We think we can not only expand the map in terms of the states in play but also expand the electorate within each one of those states.”
Mr Obama’s campaign team has been remarkably stable with his inner circle of Mr Axelrod, Mr Gibbs, David Plouffe, the campaign manager, and others remaining unchanged.
In contrast, Mr McCain has sacked or lost a string of senior aides, when his campaign ran out of money and virtually collapsed last July and again this month when at least five advisers left because of conflicts over their lobbying for businesses and foreign governments.
This week, Mark McKinnon, Mr McCain’s media adviser, stepped down because, as he said last year, electing Mr Obama would “send a great message to the country and the world”.
Mr Trippi said: “Obama has been battered, beaten, screamed at, yelled at, kicked and - nothing, totally unflappable, his staff’s unflappable, no schisms. McCain has imploded twice. So you have to have more confidence in Obama’s ability to put a team together and keep it together.”
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this
This schtick with the “Faux News”—-I mean it’s meshugena! The way you people swallow this Journal-[Oh My]Constitution, you should complain!
Well then why don’t you call it “Caux News”, awreddy?
By Crafty
May 21, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
Dave, You make fun of Georgia schools yet you can not put a simple sentence together. By the way, telling someone that you’re going to have sex with their daughter is a threat.
By Dave
May 21, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this
Best thing that could have happened for this world as we know it….Dubya should have been aborted!!! Too bad he was “saved”…as his “life” has only contibuted to the death of so so many that were already born and alive…just ask those families in Iraq that lost their loved ones. Ones that would have still been alive had Saddam still been in charge.
Dubya and Co are 1 million times worse than Saddam ever was… and caused many more deaths than he…in a much shorter amount of time…
Those that voted them in office..TWICE…the BLOOD of the innocent are on YOUR hands…
You just DO NOT GET IT!
By Dusty
May 21, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
Oh dirty harry @4:17
My heart is broken. YOU DIDN’T MISS ME??? Sob! Sniff! And I thought you were my very special lost loony lib.
Oh well, George Washington will take your place. He, too, is a lost loony lib, maybe even a little loonier, if that is possible.
By For The Record
May 21, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
LilyToad,
Cheney and Bush have been making arrangements to pump crude from Iraq and sell it to Saudi Arabia who will in turn sell it to China and India at well-timed and greatly dollar-inflated prices. The Saudi government will then split the profits with the US by paying dollar-inflated prices for US military supplies that the US would have otherwise ended up selling on E-Bay for nearly nothing. You see. There’s nothing to it if you have the right connections.
By The Truth
May 21, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
George Washington, You totally missed the point of the argument. You’re a tool. By the way, you really need to change your handle to Jimmy Carter.
By Lily Toad
May 21, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
Guess what? I’m a life-long Southerner and liberal hailing from the beautiful state of West Virginia. Yeah, yeah, its not part of the Confederacy, but believe me, it’s Southern. My grandparents talked about the Wa-ah so much I thought the Civil War ended right before I was born.
So don’t assume all us Atlanta lefties are Yanks.
By AmVet
May 21, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
If you want “nice” words go to your church, prude.
And if you want to learn how to stop lying like a gutter-snipe do that as well.
Maybe they can teach you something/anything? (Thanks TR) about being honest. But I really, really doubt it…
By Abba
May 21, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
Lily Toad,
The deficit is revenue less expense each year. The debt is the running tab. I think you’re asking how we pay off the immense amount of national debt that has been incurred during the last several years.
The answer has nothing to do with raising marginal tax rates. The answer is GDP growth.
If one looks at tax revenue as a percentage of GDP over the last fifty plus years, it has averaged just under 20 percent. Bear in mind this relationship between federal tax yield and GDP has held remarkably consistent even as marginal tax rates have moved quite considerably.
If the government gets roughly 20% of domestic output, the way to increase government revenue is to increase domestic output. Implement policies that support economic growth.
I would be in favor of policies that address and/or improve the following: (i) government (or private) investment in education and infrastructure to support commerce and create a smarter, more mobile workforce (note that investment dollars have a multiplying impact on GDP), (ii) stable to declining marginal tax rates that encourage individual investment (for the same reason), (3) predictable, and preferably low inflation, (4) relatively efficient capital markets that allow for those that have capital to partner with those that need capital, and (5) well developed contract law, bankruptcy law and property rights.
By southfulton
May 21, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
So Please explain to me how we will pay for all of George Bush’s problems without tax increases. Somebody has got to pay for this war or do you think we can just sell Alaska to the Chinese and call it even?
By Dusty
May 21, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this
Dear AmVet,4:46
I do go to church. Why don’t you try it. You really need help with all your bitterness.
My honesty is what you do not want to read. Face it, bub. I tell the truth.
By ron
May 21, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this
We care,Dusty. We really care.Don’t let anyone fool you.Where would Redneck and I be without you?
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this
And Lily Toad,
Because of what happened to my predecessors in Savannah many years ago, and in small part because of what they’d made to happen, my people (and I really mean my people) crossed against the faction that dared call itself “The South”, and as a result all hell ensued for decades upon decades; long after they’d emerged victorious from that un-reenactable war.
By Copyright
May 21, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
Your mom should have swallowed you. Then again, the world would not be able to make fun of how stupid you are.
By dirty harry
May 21, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this
By Dusty
May 21, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this
My honesty is what you do not want to read. Face it, bub. I tell the truth.
Dusty you can’t handle the TRUTH..
Obama leads McCain in November match: Reuters poll…
C’mon I’m wating for your spin!
By Marc
May 21, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
Why do Republicans always have something to say about the Democratic party’s election? Of course you are going to say negative things, you’re part of the Republican propaganda machine. Obama will win all the same states Kerry won, and there are a few more which could easily go to him. If that happens, he wins. No one cares about West Virginia or Kentucky in the Democratic party, because they aren’t going to win there in November anyway.
By George Washington
May 21, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
Oil is up over five dollars, to $134 - do any of you fools think delta can survive the year with fuel prices this high, and going higher? All the air lines are being heavily shorted on wall street….
By Dusty
May 21, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this
Dear ron, sweet one,@4:57
I will send you an autographed golfball for your kindness. I signed it myself. Don’t let RedNeck use it ‘cause he hits everything into the honeysuckle tangles. He doesn’t like the snakes there. Starts running and crying every time.
By GMAN
May 21, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
You guys kill me bringing up COlin Powell for anything. I’m sorry to say that he is either a liar or a fool. In either case, he is not the one to lead this country unless you want to keep the bar low as you did in 2000 and 2004. You’re stuck with McTroll as the nominee of the Retardican Party.
By Dusty
May 21, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
dirty harry@5:06
Well, Reuter toot over partisan polls. But, then again, you DO have to have someone think for you.
By the way, dirty harry, are you AmVet? I did not address you. I thought YOU DID NOT CARE. Well, I was hoping that was true. Dang!!! Here you are!!
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
AmVet…
AmVet, geez, slow down—-will ya. You don’t have to haul off and stick it to Sister with this kind of thing: “If you want ‘nice’ words go to your church, prude.”
Wait a minute. Consider what the best armorer in the business could do for you. I’m pretty sure we could make it worth your while.
Even if we don’t know WTF a “while” is.
Anyway, y’owe iT y’se’fta check out some of the ways we be doing church now-daze, AmVet! F’rinstance…
FOR Instance, we got going uppin Roswell a church cooler than any Dusty. Cooler than DUST, even.
A house of God where we just get to feelin’s how we know that our Host is so god-damned funny he laughs you and the Dusty-one along with you right into the Jordan for some Class II fun in the Sun. A place where you ain’t half as funny as you think you are—-except for all the times when you are but don’t mean to be.
And AmVet, let’s face it: That’s pretty much all the time. Which is why you’re always and ever sought for by the “church” of those of us who haven’t a clue which way’s up.
By The good side
May 21, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this
Will a conservative please answer when are we going to catch Bin-Laden or is that question too hard?
It amazes me that we have people that cannot admit to mistakes!
We have people both Dems/Reps/Liberals/conservatives who will not admit to doing wrong.
This is the cover-up and lie country its no wonder our kids are going crazy because the parents cannot tell the truth.
I guess all the religious folks don’t believe Jesus our lord in how honesty is good for you!
Dave please apologize to the Truth/Lie about the daughter comment we don’t need the anger/hate.
By donald
May 21, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
Jim, you and your neo(con)buddies look more stupid with each passing day. To sit on your high horse and rant on Obama while the real idiot, Dumbya, continues to get free passes from your ilk is beyond me. So tell me, WHAT GOOD THINGS HAS THIS DUMB CLUCK BUSH DONE IN 8 YEARS OF OFFICE! Heck, he can’t even get his Saudi butt buddies to increase the flow of oil. You and your kind rant about the evils of Castro, Chavez, etc but the last time I looked, the 19 hijackers who slammed two planes into the WTC were from Saudi Arabia - Bush’s buddies. Why don’t you idiots admit that you NEVER had what it took to lead America and you still don’t! John McBush the other day slammed the Castro Bros. and praised Colombia, one of the biggest dope exporters in the world. Look at the number of people getting killed in that country everyday. Look at China, just as brutal as you claim Cuba is and they get free passes galore. Do us a favor, if you and your jerk neo(con) buddies are gong to come on here and slam someone who hasn’t even been nominated yet, look in the mirror at yourselves first! What you may find is what we see in your savior - Dumbya, COMPLETE AND TOTAL FAILURE!!!
By George Washington
May 21, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this
Truth has no children, it is as queer as a three dollar bill…..
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this
And the joke is, ain’t no such church in Roswell, Georgia—-and never will be! Ha-HA!
It’s just an old saw we like to work on folks like AmVet don’t know better. You won’t find God mocking anybody in Roswell, AmVet!
Only folks mocking God.
By John Adams
May 21, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this
George Washington was anal raped by Jimmy Carter and Dave watched.
By Copyleft
May 21, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this
One quick question for TheLies and his oh-so-believable anxiety about “how much the Democratic president will cost us”…
How much has the Iraq War cost us?
(snicker)
By The Truth
May 21, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this
The good side, We don’t have to catch him. He’s dead. Otherwise we’d seen real video of him instead of voice overs on Al Jezzera.
George Washington, Queer? Nope. I’m happily married. It must really suck to be you and Dave.
By Glenn
May 21, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this
But you STILL can’t answer, “What Is Barack Obama?”
What is he? Huh? Name Barack.
Don’t you get it?
People don’t vote for unanswers.
By The Truth
May 21, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this
Copyleftnutsack, A lot. (snicker)
By The Truth
May 21, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
Glenn, Barack Hussein is the savior and messiah of the democrats. He will bring heaven to Earth as he stated in one of his speeches. His skin color will cure aids, hunger, oil prices and America. You see, troglodytes like Dave and Copyleft worship him because he is their god. He alone can make all their dreams come true.
By @@
May 21, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
AmVet @ 3:45:
I can never understand why you always make it so personal.
Well, I was just reflecting back on how you came bustin’ in at ml’s so long ago demanding…yes…DEMANDING that we discuss the issues in a civil tone. You really had it in for Andy. You were always wanting us to scold him…denounce him.
I always tried to caution you about infringing on the free speech of others but noooooooo…
You just had to have it YOUR way. Why just yesterday at ml’s, you showed us how to be civil:
By AmVet May 20, 2008 5:36 PM
But YOU just don’t ever learn, no matter how many times you have been warned, not to f&ck with individuals here, especially your betters, for no good reason and always unprovoked.
You are a half-wit boobs and you cannot possibly win when you attempt to engage in a battle of wits with a non neo-con.
And if you had an IQ over 100 you’d realize jut how utterly stupid, unoriginal, witless, and probably hypocritical (knowing you) your entire last post is.
Do something “constructive” like trying to get abortions outlawed or teaching your most unfortunate children to save themselves for marriage, you outdated silly hag.
Now go away or I will taunt you a second time…
All of that ^^^ civility because I was joking around with you.
You overreacted to a little joshin’ on my part. You apologized later though. The blog had shut down before I could say
I accept!
Dave @ 3:48:
Been to the Carolina’s lately. A couple of college girls were murdered. You sound capable.
Fearless @ 3:56:
You didn’t mention Georgia’s education, your alter ego Dave did.
Now show me where I mentioned anyone’s daughter…yours or otherwise.
Dirty @ 4:00:
Just one @@ with limited time.
About the Dave(s). If you’ve seen one Dave you’ve seen ‘em all. That what I always say anyhoo.
By jb
May 21, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this
Wooten is just a shrill voice of a decadent way of political thinking being drowned into irrelevence by the roar of a quickly approaching tidal wave.
Therefore he’s best to be ignored.
Obama has awoken the spirit of the next generation(the tidal wave). SO my fellow Southern brothers and sisters, get relevant or get used to doggy paddling.
By tar
May 22, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this
Jim Wooten,
You should be ashame of yourself. How can you consider yourself a journalist when you write half truths? Yes half truths. Sen. Obama has not proposed tax hike on hard working families. He proposed to end the tax breaks for the wealthy, income over $250,000 a year. I gather you do not believe that families that earn less than $250,000 a year are hard workers.
Also, you fail to mention that your Republican President administration has been meeting with rogue leaders in countries such as Iran, North Korea, China, and so on. You are the typical Republican that throws out half truths hoping they will stick.
You talk about the educated in Kentucky. Well, racism still evolve with the educated. Your Kentuckian voters were proud to say that race played a major role in their voting.
You are a disgrace.
By fearless fosdik
May 22, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this
By @@
May 21, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
Dear BUGEYES you write this: Fearless @ 3:56
Now show me where I mentioned anyone’s daughter…yours or otherwise.
OK, BUGEYES Is this not you?
By @@
May 21, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
is your 18 yo daughter no able to choose her own life?
By Wake UP
May 22, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this
Why is everyone focusing on Barack’s black race ?
Isn’t he “White” too ?
He is an African-White American !! (Dad from Africa, White Mom from “Kansas”). He was raised by his “white” grandmother !! Has a “white” sister, and other “white” relatives !!
By Ray
May 22, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
Dave, AmVet and Dirty Harry,
Perhaps you have forgotten what happened on 9/11. And maybe there is another reason why you look everywhere in this country and cannot find an apparent terrorist. Maybe it’s the F/15s that patrol our coasts and a Coast Guard that is decidedly overworked patrolling our waterways. Maybe it’s the airport security people who make it safe to fly. Perhaps it might be the military in Afganistan working overtime to put AlQuaida in it’s place. And you get upset about monitoring phone calls. Has this phone monitoring has one single effect on you and your family. I think not. These muslims don’t play by the rules, Dave. There is not a single Muslim democracy in the world. They want your head on pole Dirty Harry and if you forget that, that’s where your head might end up. Our way of life is at stake here, AmVet but all of you bleeding heart libs can do is complain about Bush. We are at war with these people and the sooner the libs realize this and stop undermining our efforts to preserve our way of life, we might get some results. Talk with the President of Iran, yeah, right. What a crap idea. All they understand is power and what it will do for them. What’s it going to take, a dirty bomb in an Indianapolis shopping center to wake you up. Bush could arrange the second coming and you would say it was screwed up!!
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