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Will taxes follow home values down?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
In one of our earlier discussions, Carrie Smith made a point that bears a follow-up.
Since her family moved into their current home in DeKalb County, six years ago property taxes have been raised five times, she wrote. ” Now that property values are falling, I would like the same enthusiasm from them decreasing my real estate taxes!” She continued:
” I am a real estate appraiser, and have seen properties which are valued by the county 3 times what they are now worth! Since the government is so aggressive in increasing our real estate taxes when values are increasing, I would like to see them now be aggressive in decreasing our real estate taxes with real estate prices declining! “
Maybe it’s just cynicism on my part, but I’d be shocked to discover that home assessments are following the prices down. While some token reduction in assessed value is likely, my guess is that local officials will react to efforts this year in the Georgia General Assembly to cap assessments at 2008 levels. While that legislation did not pass, it will most certainly trigger a response from county officials who now fear that the Legislature will lock them in, prohibiting assessments from increasing more than two or three percentage points.
So, Carrie Smith, none of us should count on lower assessments that follow the market down. But if anybody has evidence otherwise, speak up.




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Comments
By jbmlaw
April 24, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. I simply cannot countenance questioning the integrity of the DeKalb overlords. While they undoubtedly have been the most aggressive taxers in the state, to suggest they will not do the honorable thing, and reset valuations at the current market, is nothing short of slander. I fairly anticipate an announcement by the county government, in the immediate future, of an intention to reduce property taxes in accordance with the decline in true values. That is the only democratic thing to do.
Speaking of crooks, Hillary and Obama this morning get an analysis by the Chairman, wickedly funny. On the serious side, Dr. Sowell’s three-part essay on the economics of education is marvelously well-written, persuasive to me but I was already in his choir. Today Dr. Sowell sounds like our friend Mid-South.
By Redneck Convert
April 24, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this
Well, the county is all for jumping the tax value of a home every year or two. And when you protest it, they say the state made them do it. So they get use to raising the value and then brag they are keeping the tax rate the same. Every year they take in a few more million bucks.
Now the sell price of homes is going down. But you won’t see nobody coming to lower your home value. They will keep it exackly the same. That way they can still brag they are keeping the tax rate the same and “holding the line” on the budget.
Now there’s a new scam to get more money. Atlanta has jumped the value of businesses to get enough tax money so the cowards won’t have to raise the tax rate on homes. You can expect alot of counties to announce they don’t have to raise taxes on homes to “hold the line.” They will just squeeze Private Innerprize.
I get awful tired of seeing the county budget and how it includes money for dancing lessons for old geezers and shots for kids and such.
As a Libraritarian I’m with jbmlaw. Just get rid of most guvmint. Except for the police that need to keep Law and Order and make sure Those People don’t break in and rob everybody.
Anyhow, I sure get tired of writing that 50 buck check to the county for taxes on the trailer. Its pretty old but according to the county its worth more and more. I would sell it for what the county says its worth but nobody would pay that much.
Maybe if one of the libruls gets elected President and I move to Canada I won’t have to pay these taxes that rob me blind. Anyway, don’t plan to see the tax assesser come to your place to lower the value of your home. If you go outside and wait you will be a skeleton long before he arrives.
Have a good day everybody.
By JCH
April 24, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this
I predict that property taxes will only increase. As long as there is heavy migration and our infrastructure is burdened by those who move here in droves - we have to have some way to pay for it - and it’s only through taxes.
Taxes in places that people are leaving must decrease. Michigan is a prime example. Real estate values, cost of living, and property taxes all must decrease to make these places more attractive and affordable to those that live there
By Glenn
April 24, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this
The real question is for you and Carrie: exactly what are you willing to give up for the reduction of perfectly legal tax revenue? Mmmm?
Transportation planning? Grady Hospital? Water storage? Carnivorous schools?
By asian doctor
April 24, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this
DEKALB, FULTON, CLAYTON ARE THE WORSE COUNTIES , RUN BY PEOPLE WITH WORSE CREDENTIALS.
THEIR ONLY GOAL IS TO MAKE MONEY OFF HARD WORKING AMERICAN PEROPLE AND GIVE SERVICES TO PEOPLE ON WELFARE,PEIOPLE WITH DRUG AND ALCOHOL PROBLEMS, SINGLE MOMS WITH 5 KIDS AND ILLEGAL ALIENS.
Fair Tax is the ANSWER.
By PartyLine
April 24, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this
If appraisals came down, then taxes would come down as long as the millage rate remained fixed. Now, if there were a strong enough dis-incentive to leave taxes elevated, then they would come down as much as practical over time. This would occur regardless of assessments. For the average taxpayer, the strongest dis-incentive currently available is removal of elected officials from office. Recalls are very difficult so we must typically wait for an election. Do not vote for an incumbent. Monitor your elected officials and publicize their actions by posting on blogs, by writing letters to editors, by spreading the word when talking to neighbors, etc. Get the word out. Meanwhile, work on getting a new law passed that requires all elected officials to be tased once for every penny increase in property taxes. Then, pass a law allowing these elected officials the right to tase other government employees that have contributed to increased property taxes. To be fair, these other government employees will also be allowed access to these same tasers. I know this may sound shocking but it may be hard to get through to some of our thick-skinned politicians. So, it is our civic duty to help them see the error in their ways. Please write your elected officials and tell them that we are doing this for their own good. It’s not that much different from all the times their mothers made them drink castor oil or washed their mouthes out with lye soap. Negative reinforcement is just a way of life for some.
By woody
April 24, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
I called Dekalb in Febraury about removing my property assesment freeze. I was thinking the same thing that taxes should go down. However, the Dekalb person told me that even though right now prop values are going down, they are really a year behind in their assesments. He said this year won’t be the year they go down. However, next year it could happen.
I also brought up this very same topic to Clark Howard he said generaly tax assesments don’t go down they will probably stay around the same even though house values go down. This is due to the school taxes and county services. However the AJC reported today that the Dekalb school system will not ask for a mileage rate. This will mean that school taxes will not make up the difference if your actual property value goes down.
So it is possible that they go down.
I p** me off that we get this property freeze ability after the property values shot up 150 percent. Now i have to worry about taking the freeze off.
By woody
April 24, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this
millage not mileage. Sorry, I dont use that word much.
By asian doctor
April 24, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this
ELECT OBAMA AND YOU WILL SEE ALL KINDS OF TAXES GO UP.
50% OF TAX PAYERS PAY 97%OF ALL TAXES
50% OF ALL TAX PAYERS ARE PAYING FOR REST OF 50 % WHO PAY NO TAXES AND 22 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS AND THEIR CHILDREN. CHECK OUT EXPOSEOBAMA.COM GOD BLESS AMERICA
By bob
April 24, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this
Our home is worth 150K now. We are assessed at 189K. It’s a 30 year old cedar split level.
If this bubble pop is temporary, then the tax assessors probably shouldn’t lower the assessments only to raise them again when the market turns around.
If I was the guv’nah I’d be looking to raise taxes anyway, not lower them. Atlanta is old. We have to renovate. Now.
The all-wet DOT commissioner’s love life in Georgia has properly hung a scarlet (o’hara) letter around her pretty neck. But frankly we need to build a dam, to get more water, as wet as she is. Friends, and Rome-Georgians, lend me your ear. I blog to narry tease her, but to gaze at her…
By Glenn
April 24, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this
jbm,
You keep doing Claude Rains, and I’ll keep doing Bogey. I’m scratching my head trying to figure why Jim wrote a whole column from a rhetorical question…
Looks like I’ve got some catching up to do with Tom Sowell. Hot tip, I trust.
Luckovich is unaccountably brilliant today.
By Mid-South Philosopher
April 24, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Jim
The chances of property taxes being lowered by the various barons and baronesses, who occupy offices of local governance throughout this state, just because the value of properties have declined as a part of the Bush Economy, is about as likely as Barack Obama being honored as “outstanding young man of the year” by the Cobb County Republican party!
The polical addicts, who inhabit county commissions, city councils, and local boards of education are infected by the dreaded Langolier Syndrome. Using their taxing power, they eat and eat and eat and eat and, then, announce that they are hungry.
Wake-up, my friends! The only way to deal with an addict is to remove the source of the dope.
Vote the bstrds out!
In other words, don’t re-elect anybody!
By ron
April 24, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
Good morning Jim,It’s going to cost more to run the government next year than it will cost this year,so factor that in when you figure house taxes should decrease.Higher energy costs will eat any chance of any real reduction in taxes.The valuation will decrease and the mil rate will increase.
Redneck,You’re paying $50 on that trailer of yours?You’re being robbed.Kick the rest of the glass out of the windows and knock off some more siding.
By Mid-South Philosopher
April 24, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this
Geesh…my subject/verb agreement is atrocious this morning.
“chances…are”
not
“chances…is”
I need another cup!
By zeke
April 24, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
If anyone thinks the socialist commie b******* in government will decrease their property taxes based on assed value, please contact me immediately, I have some great ocean front property in Nebraska for sale! Property taxes, an affront to the right of personal private ownership, the foundation of our country, need to be eliminated completely, PERIOD!
By mike
April 24, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this
Taxes will not neccesarily go down just because your tax evaluation is reduced. The amount of your bill is also contingent on the County and school board budgets and the millage rate needed to raise that money. I have seen cases where my assessors lowered a value based on my argument about current “value”, only to see the tax bill be the same or more than the year before. If the assessors lower all the values in their jurisdiction, the millage rate will increase accordingly and the tax bill will be the same. One must have an understanding of the entire mathematical calculation to speak knowledgeably about property taxes.
By Just Nasty and Mean
April 24, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this
The Fulton County Assessors are a bunch of self-righteous, arrogant weasels looking to engineer society by a transfer of wealth by soaking the productive self initiators to the non-productive leeches.
Use deductive reasoning. Clayton, Fulton, DeKalb, Lithonia, City of Atlanta—all of the governments that are self-inflicted screwed—-what does their leadership all have in common?
…come on. Can we even say it? Can we admit it? Can we even attempt to improve it without being Politically Incorrect and called a name?
Expect more of the same insanity as long as we cannot discuss the problem.
By Glenn
April 24, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
Mornin’, ron,
You point out that it will of course “cost more to run the government next year than it will cost this year”. Why is that necessarily so? Are the people governing just not capable of being Iacocca’s, or of thinking that they ought to be?
How about, same government for same number of real dollars? Or, better government for the same amount? Or, the same for less? Or maybe even better government for less money? WHAT A THOUGHT!
Nah. Just kidding. I say we give ‘em the same junk government for more money. As long as the taxpayers put up with it, everyone will be just fine. Right?
By @@ The Revolutionary
April 24, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
complete with red bandana!
Start a movement to APPEAL YOUR PROPERTY TAXES.
It’s really quite simple. I do it every year just to irritate.
Viva La Revolucion!!!!!
By zeke
April 24, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
Sorry to add this to your piece on property taxes! However, since the ajc offered no way to comment on the eminent domain crisis in Sandy Springs, I will air my views here! The audacity of any government to confiscate private property just to expand a road for the “commoon good” or in the case of Abernathy road to build a park deserves to be litigated all the way to the Supreme Court! The foundation of our country is PRIVATE OWNERSHIP NOT PUBLIC OWNERSHIP of property! All these initiatives to buy, condemn, confiscate land or other properties by the states, counties, cities and the feds to preserve public property reeks of soviet russia, cuba, china and n. korea! Please someone with the where with all (money) please fight these atrocities until we, the private individual, prevail against these tyranical moves of our employees, the governments!
By PartyLine
April 24, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
If our taxes actually went toward items that benefited the public, then I wouldn’t mind so much what sort of games the politicians chose to play with millage rates and assessments. After all, if there are still taxpayers out there stupid enough to fall for those lame lines from their county government about holding rates fixed, blah, blah, blah, then they certainly deserve to have to even buy their own jar of petroleum jelly. Then there’s that pathetic offering from the state elected officials to help us property owners by freezing rates — after they’ve gone through the roof — and not even offering to help actually reduce a single tax. That really takes the cake — the arrogant jerks. If I had been within boot distance of a politician making such a “generous” offer to me, I would have taken my chances in court and just kicked the crap out of his rear end. Of course, I would have only done this while appropriately dressed in my best pair of well-creased blue jeans and spit-shined boots. The nerve of these pompous pretentious pontificators. Besides, jbmlaw would probably offer his services, pro bono, for anyone willing to put these “tax more so I can spend more” politicians in their place, right? We need politicians that have to actually work for a living like the rest of us. I wonder why we don’t have more lawyers standing up for the little person and fighting against all these tax, spend, tax more, spend more…politicians. I wonder why we don’t have more lawyers and other “well off” people helping out us little people on blogs like this one by giving us free advice on how to stop these tax and spend politicians. It’s almost like they don’t really care about us little, hard-working, tax-paying voters at all.
By mike
April 24, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this
I own property in three counties and the values the assessors have on my properties are nowhere near “Fair Market Value”. They are taxed at about 70% of their actual value. For me to demand they be more reflective of current market, would mean the Assessors should raise my value!(I am keeping my mouth shut). The request for adjustments down are only valid if the current value being used by the assessors is an accurate one.
By Dennis
April 24, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten writes, “…none of us should count on lower assessments that follow the market down.”
Well, Glenn @ 8:21 beat me to it with his reply, except that I was going to ask if anyone expected the prices of groceries, healthcare to go down as well.
Me, I’m looking for a couple of buckets to grow tomatos on the deck and maybe figure out how to beat the health department and sneak a couple of chickens into the basement for eggs.
Taxes of any persuassion aren’t going down, regardless of home values. This war has got to be paid for somehow or else the Pentagon (American’s biggest industry) won’t be able to replace the weapons and ammunition that it has wasted in Iraq on a needless war.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ingnorant one to deny it.
By George Washington
April 24, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
The worthless guv outa abolish free public education - that would git the dead wood scum out of the schools, and most importantly save me a bundle on mah property taxes…Those stupid brats will just grow up to be field hands anyway…and the geekey smart ones will all want to get mba’s or go to law school so they can steal form the rest of us….abolish all free public education…..If we close all public schools now, we can duck paying pensions to those lazy, no good teachers, like that Rena woman from cobb county who may have won a state title or two in volleyball at walton highschool, but who was molesting a little girl from her middle school for five or six years, starting when the girl was in sixth grade. Helmsley I think her name was, Rena or Gina Helmsley. I sure hope she is not going to get a pension from the school board using mah tax money…..
By bob
April 24, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
The DOT scandal has hung a scarlet (ohara) letter around Gena Abraham’s neck. Friends, Rome-georgians, Countrymen, lend me your ears. I come narry to tease her but to gaze at her. The evil women do is oft inferred when they’re boned. The noble Evans hath said she is trampalicious. And Evans is an honorable man. If it is so then is it a grievous fault and grievously should she answer for it?
(The only thing this scandal is missing is the supply room security camera footage on Utube).
By Glenn
April 24, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
The worthless guv outa establish free public education - that would git the dead wood scum out of the schools to git educated insteada just schooled.
By wee willy
April 24, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
Well,
My Fulton County property tax was “reassessed” last year resulting in an 11.5% increase in valuation. Does anyone think that property values in Fulton County went up 11.5% in 2007? Does anyone suppose that the assessment has anything to do with property values? C’mon, get real. People in this country are asleep at the switch when it comes to taxes.
By jbmlaw
April 24, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
Dear Glenn @ 8:44, the Sowell reference was not particularly for you – you know everything he says anyway and you agree with 75% of it. I am just a fawning admirer of the man. Trust you saw the unexpected (positive) developments in our California case in late March. We may want to chat about strategy if you have some time between now and Monday.
Dear Zeke @ 9:08, your complaint is valid but the leftist US Supreme Court ratified the evil in the Kelo case. Your only real solution is to ensure that people like Stevens, Souter, Kennedy, Ginsburg, and Breyer are never appointed, and that people like Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, and Alito are appointed. That requires a political solution, always voting against leftists.
By HIDT
April 24, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
In Dalton, the gleaming, new, luxurious city hall is derisively called the Taj Mahal by bitter locals. It is also five times bigger than the old one. Why is it necessary for each city employee to have a single-person work station on a quarter acre? Just up the street, Superior Court judges ordered the County Commission to expand the courthouse. They doubled our taxes and did it. It’s four times bigger than it was. And, again, each bureaucrat sits on a quarter acre. Once they get elected, local officials and state, too, get buddied up with their employees and those become the constituents they look after the most. Dang, I’m bitter.
By George Washington
April 24, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
Well, ah kin support free pubic education, but not free public education, kinda like that walton high school girls volleyball coach…she just confused pubic with public, and now she is in prison…
By Glenn
April 24, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
Bardolicious, bob. “Pray tell me, what did the woman do?”
By Glenn
April 24, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
jbm, yes, and yes. So much has changed, at both ends, since we last spoke. For one thing, I’m back in the game now. That ruling, though, needs to be shoved right up the upper intestines of the you-know-what. Nothing less will do; otherwise, acid redux.
But more like 85% of Sowell; it might be more were I not deficient in economics. I once had one of Sowell’s nephews on my staff, adopted into the family as an Irish baby, and it got rather disconcerting to hear him refer to his “Uncle Tom”, whom he adored but disagreed with. I’d talked with Sowell a couple of times, but of course did not know him as his nephew did; yet it was I who was the fan of Sowell’s work. Peter had law school ambitions, so he knew better.
I’ll be very interested to see TS’s three-parter.
By bubba
April 24, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
When have taxes ever gone down???
By bob
April 24, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
Evans is an honorable man, but his judgement hath fled to pertish breasts, and better men have lost their reason, over bare TT’s.
Gena Abrahams is very pretty. A real DOT com!
By Joe Bland
April 24, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
Well, duh, HIDT. Once people get elected to city councils and county commissions, it is government employees they come into contact most often. It gives them access and the ears of the officials. In other settings it’s called lobbying.
By Go-Fish
April 24, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
Another reason to pass the GREAT Plan. Will Property taxes come down? HA-HA-HA-Ha-HA-ha, Your kidding right?
By AmVet
April 24, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Veterans need your help.
This week, Senators John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Richard Burr offered a watered-down substitute to the 21st Century GI Bill, which was introduced by Senators Jim Webb and Chuck Hagel.
The Post 9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act (S.22), the Webb-Hagel bill, now has 57 supporters in the Senate, from both sides of the aisle. With three more supporters, this bill would be filibuster-proof, and guaranteed to get to the President’s desk. Senator McCain’s bill could split the Senate, undermining the common-sense legislation that Senators Webb and Hagel offered. In doing so, it also undermines America’s veterans.
Here’s how.
1) The McCain-Graham-Burr legislation creates a flat education benefit, not taking into account the cost of state colleges where veterans live. This would mean veterans in states where the cost of education is higher than the benefit would have go to into debt to get an education, or uproot themselves and their families to move to a place where the benefit would cover college. In many cases, the McCain bill won’t even cover half the cost of college. The Webb-Hagel Bill determines the education benefit based on the highest state college tuition in a veterans’ home state, allowing veterans to come home and attend college, without upheaval in their lives.
2) The McCain-Graham-Burr legislation creates second-class veterans, by offering those who serve in the military for 12 years the chance to transfer their education benefits to their children. This says to a veteran who serves for two years and loses both of his legs in combat that his service isn’t as valuable as someone who has served for longer.
3) The McCain-Graham-Burr legislation leaves the National Guard and Reserve out in the cold. In the current conflicts, the National Guard and Reserve have served faithfully alongside their active duty compatriots, and deserve equal benefits. Yet, the McCain bill does nothing to reward our Guard and Reservists for their cumulative service. Under the McCain bill, over 160,000 members of the Guard and Reserves who have done more than one tour in Iraq or Afghanistan would get no credit towards an education for their additional sacrifice.
WRITE YOUR SENATORS AND TELL THEM THE MCCAIN BILL IS UNACCEPTABLE.
By Glenn
April 24, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
bubba, they go down when taxpayers revolt. Given the leadership vacuum in GA, I can’t see what else could do it, either.
By Jodi
April 24, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
I doubt property taxes will go down, but if the taxes go up - especially with the mess in City of Atlanta’s $60 million deficit…expect more foreclosures!
By bob
April 24, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this
The DOT scandal has hung a scarlet (ohara) letter around Gena Abraham’s pretty neck. Frankly, is it fair?
Friends, Rome-georgians, Countrymen, lend me your ears. I blog to narry tease her, but to gaze at her. The evil women do is oft inferred when they’re boned. So let the media sleaze her? The noble Evans hath told us she was trampalicious, and Evans is an honorable man. Is it so grievous a fault and grievously should she answer for it?
O Judgement! Thou art fled to pertish breasts. and men have lost their reason for bare TT’s.
By John
April 24, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this
I live in Dekalb and was just assessed. The appraisal of my house in Brookhaven went from $223,000 to $254,000 (comparable houses have sold for close to $300,000 before the housing slump). I have no idea if that is a fair value now though…should I appeal?
By Redneck Convert
April 24, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
Well, I took a gander at a photo of this Gena Abraham and I got to say she’s a real looker. I would like to get a look at them mail room photos of her and this guy. Not that I’m curious or anything. I hate Sin but you got to see it in action to know what it is. So if you got some photos just drop them off at my trailer at Simpsons Trailer Park up here in Forsyth. I’ll look at them and pity the sinners and hate the sin and pray for their souls and give them right back. Thanking you for your trouble.
By PartyLine
April 24, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
Glenn,
For the Georgia taxpayer to realize that they need to revolt, they would first have to get more educated than the ones that they voted into office. Lemmings. I have no problem giving a candidate a chance in office to prove himself/herself. The problem is with the incessant practical application of the definition of insanity w.r.t. politicians — elect them over and over thinking that they won’t screw you again and again. No more incumbents — except maybe Ron Paul.
By Nan
April 24, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
I would certainly hope that tax valuations would accurately reflect the real estate market, but am not optimistic. I think it’ll take active lobbying on the part of property owners, as well as many, many appeals when valuations rise for no apparent reason, before officials will respond by lowering assessments.
By George Washington
April 24, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Well, what I truely object to is paying the legal settlement for the cobb county middle school teacher who molested the little sixth grader…Millions of dollars of my property taxes are going to pay for Rena Helmsleys child molestation under cover of being a Cobb County school teacher and a state championship volleyball coach…The entire settlement should come out of the teacher pension’s in cobb county: You can’t tell me the other teachers and coaches did not notice what was going on, they just winked and looked away. Ah hear there were a lot of very nervous female middle school physical education teachers when Helmsly was first arrested: they feared she would name names, and give details about time and place. Speaking of worthless education majors, ah hears Glenn works at 61 Forsyth Street, at the Atlana Sam Nunn Federal Building as a GS-12 program analyst in the Federal Department of Education….No wonder he has so much time to waste blogging the day away, et Glenn? Does you Branch Chief know about your internet habits? No program analyst left behind, eh Glenn.
By Skeptic Tank
April 24, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Sounds like more and more citizens will need to exercise their right to challenge their tax assessment this year. The process is relatively simple, but the time to act is NOW (or soon), when the 2008 assessments are released by the respective county tax assessors. CHALLENGE YOUR ASSESSMENT!! The government will most certainly not reduce your values for you.
By George Washington
April 24, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
No gitadyke, she is not into but….
By George Washington
April 24, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
Oh yeah, for you right wing jesus freaks out there, Rene Helmsley graduated from Berry College in Rome Georgia, a Religious school….
By ron
April 24, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
Glenn,Government employees need large pay raises to compensate for rising prices.Cost of Government goes up.
Redneck,Seeing sin from a distance is no way to identify it.One should actually try it to be sure it's sinful.Try it again if you have to ,to be sure.And again ,if necessary,or at least until you get it right.By Jackie
April 24, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
A tax decrease is the only thing that is fair if your property decreases in value.
This is a perfect example of what the mindless tax cuts Dubya gave to the wealthy.
With less money to pay for government services, we are faced with a daunting task of accepting less for the dollars paid.
Do we pay for sewer, water, roads, schools, police/fire, hospitals, health care…?
What a quandry!
By Liberal Nutcase
April 24, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
Lower my taxes? We don’t pay enough! That’s why I vote Democratic! I’m a child of big government and I need to have it take care of me. I can’t plan or make decisions for my own future! The government is my nanny - take away more of my money and property!
By getalife
April 24, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
What did you expect when the gop wolf is guarding the hen house of people?
You get what you vote for and it is insane to think voting gop will change anything.
The gop does not give a damn about the people.
By George Washington
April 24, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
As I told the Soy Bean farmers of Argentian when the guv imposed a 46% tax on exported soybeans: Buy soybean futures on the ny market, then tell the guv of argentia to either remove all taxes on soybean exports and refund the last three years of taxes, or you will burn all your soybean crops. Since Argenita is the third largest exporter of soybeans in the world, burning the crops will drive the world price of soybeans thru the roof, and the farmers will make a lot of money on the futures contracts. Of course the guv of argentia will refuse to remove the tax or repay the taxes they stole from the farmers in the last three years, so the farmers will burn away. Since the profits from the futures market will be in new york, the scumbag guy of the kirchner hag can not get that money. The farmers win big, the guv loses big, and the farmers can now threaten not to plant any soybean crops next year…..Viva la Revolution
By George Washington
April 24, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
Ah, Jackie, as much as I like you, I must point out that we pay for water, sewage, hospitals, and health care seperately from property taxes, mostly on a per unit of consumption basis. Giving the guy a pot of money to divide as they see fit is an open invitation to theft and croonism…see the washington lobby scandals….I prefer a pay as you go for each specific service plan….I would cut military back to only 200,000 active duty, three aircraft carriers, and the nuclear deterent…No F-22, F-35, and you can just write off the marine corps…we don’t need no foreign military entanglements, and them marines are just stupid enough to get us involved in some stupid foreign war….
By Just Nasty and Mean
April 24, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
getalife—-You are a dumb_. Property tax rates are set by the counties, as are the assessments.
ALL of the screwed up counties in metro Atlanta are run by DEMOCRATS!
Please. Before you make yourself look stupid in front of all these people, how about getting educated and your head out of your youknowwhat.
By George Washington
April 24, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
Ah, Just Dumb and Ugly, Cobb County is run by the Repukes….and they are making me pay higher property taxes then normal to pay for the child molester from Walton High School who is now serving an 8 year prison sentence for molesting the little sixth grader….Dirty stinking Repukes…
By Glenn
April 24, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
Mais mon General, your agrarian policy is so much fun, while your defense policy is no fun at all.
By Qualcom Investor
April 24, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
The DOT (com) scandal hung a scarlet (ohara) letter around Gene Abraham’s long, soft, pretty neck. Frankly, is it fair?
Friends, Rome-georgians, countrymen, lend me your ears. I blog to narry tease her, but to gaze at her. The evil women do is oft inferred when they’re boned. So let the media sleaze her? Noble Evans hath told us she was trampalicious, and Evans is an honorable man. So is it a grievous fault and grievously should she answer for it?
O judgement! Thou are fled to pertish breasts. Men have lost reason to bare TT’s.
(the preceding was taken word for word from Shakespeare’s Gone with the Sin)
By Sister Catherine
April 24, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
Of course Sonny Perdue and the legislature cut the corporate income tax by 1 billion dollars meaning school boards everywhere had to raise property taxes.
And of course the legislature wants additional tax cuts that will force the local school districts to once again raise the property tax.
By getalife
April 24, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Wright admits Obama is just another lying politician
I tried to tell you but you are drunk on his kool aid.
Can you hear me know?
By Atico
April 24, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
Someone is nuts. I asked this question of the Jackson County Tax Commissioner and did I get his shorts in a knot. Once these politicans raise your taxes never expect them to lower same. They just love to have lots of your money to burn on the sorry school system and higg waged employees. County wide reassesments are due NOW, but don’t hold your breath; in actuality they will probably raise the millage rate claiming a shortage of funds for the services rendered. What a joke!!!!
By Glenn
April 24, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
The “had to” raise taxes, Sister? Why, the cognicidal thieves!
You know, I knew Sister Catherine. I worked with Sister Catherine. Sister Catherine was a friend of mine. And you’re no Sister Catherine. You’re Wally George.
By AmVet
April 24, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
Gleen, are you sure that wasn’t Sister Mary Elephant?
By Sister Catherine
April 24, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
Unfunded No Child Left Behind requirements along with state mandated class sizes did in fact cause most school boards to raise property taxes Glenn. If you have something constructive to add or wish to dispute these facts, then please do so.
Unfunded NCLB, state mandated class sizes, and state tax cuts were enacted by Republicans. The majority of your property tax bill goes to schools.
By George Washington
April 24, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Right Glenn, those frost backs in canada are a real threat, not to mention those wetter backers from mexico…the defense budget is the biggest fraud ever, corporate welfare for lockpickingthieveheed, and their ilk. Heck, we don’t even need three carriers, lets just sink them all together in the middle of the atlantic as a show of disgust at how we have been robbed by the military industrial complex. all thirteen carriers, complete with all aircraft, and all support ships. Send them to the bottom. That alone will save us 100 billion dollars per year, plus all the oil those pigs consumed. Now git that report on grade three reading assessment into the branch chiefs office by 4:30 or you are fired.
By Glenn
April 24, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Sister Catherine:
You really DO sound like a person called to pedantry! I especially liked this bit of hickory-sticking, Sister: “If you have something constructive to add or wish to dispute these facts, then please do so.” Ooooh. Ouch! Keep that up, and I just might get to like you!
Yeah, I’m well aware of the facts, and of how it never occurred to the yellowbellies to restructure service delivery within the budget allotted to them. The system doesn’t WORK that way, now do it? Sure, it’s flexible—-all contemporary systems of human management are capable of absorbing shocks and spitting out spent human-fuel cells to ride out the systemic insult—-but the system can’t really be touched by other than the system experts, CAN IT. And ain’t nobody in educational governance in Georgia who fits that bill.
You f@cking bozo. Get a pointy hat and go sit in the corner. We’ll send for you when we need fuel.
By George Washington
April 24, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
The report, Glenn, the report….Git to work, or Git Out…I have already called the director’s office about you….They are checking the weblogs, you know, the servers that track your every move on the dept of education network….Back to teaching third grade for you,….
By George Washington
April 24, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
Anyone want to call Glenn’s boss to complain about him wasting his paid federal work time blogging the day away, hogging federal computer time? here is his name and phone number: Lavin Gartland, U.S. Department of Education 61 Forsyth St. SW, Suite 19T40 Atlanta, GA 30303 Telephone: (404)562-6225 Fax: (404)562-6520
Or you can call Anne…..
By Glenn
April 24, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
You CRACK ME UP, man!
Sh!t, that’s funny…
By GW
April 24, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
My loyal believers,
It has come to my attention that some of you are speaking rudely to our beloved nuns. Now you just listen here. You are no american idol so you are dispensable. I have an unarmored H3 waiting for you in the red zone if you mess with my efforts to smooth things over with the Italian Church. I am going to need all the blessings I can get to cover the hail mary’s that i still have up my sleeves. You only think you have seen a miracle in the shape of a corn flake. I’ll have those Ebayers eating out of my hand in no time — frosting or no frosting.
Your Welcome, Your Leader, GW
By Glenn
April 24, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
Actually I’m scheming to devolve power right out from under those selfsame brown thumbs and brown noses. Tell ‘em I said thanks for the cheese!
By Jackie
April 24, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
@GW,
Point well taken. I was trying to make a point but the listed items were not specific to the taxes.
By deegee
April 24, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
Forsyth County is about $7 million short in meeting their revenue projections so far this year. The slow economy and the dismal housing market is reported to be at fault. The county commission is looking for ways to cut spending but is optimistic that shoppers at the new big-time shopping center that is set to open in May on exit 13 will spend enough to help the county out of its cash flow squeeze. To answer Jim’s question; no, property taxes are not going down because of a downturn in the housing market. We will pay the same if not more taxes but will get less in services because the idiots that create the budgets are elected officials that can’t project beyond the next election cycle.
By GW
April 24, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this
My loyal believers,
It has also come to my attention that many of you believe that government is composed of people that give a crap about all you little peons. Pardon me for being blunt but it’s about time that someone other than that Pope fellow just told it like it is. What makes you think that your blessed elected officials volunteered for those jobs so that they could help you. They volunteered for those jobs so that they could help themselves to a piece of each one of you — every single year. Now suck it up. If you don’t like it, volunteer. I’ve got a big factory pumping out lots of guns for this man’s army. Remember, don’t ask and I won’t have to tell you — again. I don’t like having to repeat myself.
Your Welcome, Your Leader, GW
By deegee
April 24, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
Forsyth County is about $7 million short in meeting their revenue projections so far this year. The slow economy and the dismal housing market is reported to be at fault. The county commission is looking for ways to cut spending but is optimistic that shoppers at the new big-time shopping center that is set to open in May on exit 13 will spend enough to help the county out of its cash flow squeeze. To answer Jim’s question; no, property taxes are not going down because of a downturn in the housing market. We will pay the same if not more taxes but will get less in services because the idiots that create the budgets are elected officials that can’t project beyond the next election cycle.
By Upset Fulton
May 9, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this
Fulton County - imposed a 28% increase in the fair market value for my house being over $60K higher than what I paid for it, and since they still have the previous owners listed - the tax bill was forwarded to them and now I am unable to dispute and am stuck with the bill