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Driving Miss Hillary
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
A parade of Democratic superdelegates has begun to form with the sole purpose of Driving Miss Hillary to someplace in the country — anywhere she wants to go, so long as it’s not Pennsylvania or Ohio or any other state holding a presidential primary.
U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota is expected today to join Pennsylvania’s Bob Casey and Vermont’s Patrick Leahy in pressuring Miss Hillary to hang it up. Party Chairman Howard Dean expressed surprise that Leahy had gone so far as to invite Miss Hillary out of the race. “Having run for president myself,” said Dean, “nobody tells you when to get in, and nobody tells you when to get out. That’s about the most personal decision you can make after all the time and effort you put into it.”
In Indiana, a May 6 primary state, Miss Hillary rejected the advice Leahy and others are giving. “I thought we of all people knew how important it was to give everyone a chance to have their voices heard and their votes counted,” she said.
What she fails to understand, of course, is that the “count every vote” and “every vote counts” arguments are, like Voter ID arguments, not intended for intra-party affairs. Those are weapons to be used only against Republicans. Oh, Miss Hillary, were you a bit more devious and savvy politically, you’d well understand these rules.
Despite the parade of superdelegates, she actually has more commitments from that group. Barack Obama has 217; Clinton has 250, without counting those from Michigan and Florida.
Democrats are panicky because the Rasmussen tracking poll covering Wednesday through Saturday puts John McCain up 3 points, 47-44, over Obama and up 10 points, 50-40, over Clinton.
Howard Dean wants the superdelegates to commit one way or another by July 1st to avoid going to Denver, site of the August convention, with knives drawn.
Neither Clinton nor Obama would be my first choice. And, admittedly, I’m enjoying watching the delegate-selection process ensnare Democrats in a trap of their own making. But still…
It is presumptuous of all party officials to insist that Clinton drop out. This is it for her. Now or never. The minute she drops out she’s spoiled goods, packaged up with Bill and carted off to the landfill to await the evening sweep of the bulldozer.
She has, as Dean noted, earned the right to carry on as long as she sees fit. And that’s sincere, whether the brawl benefits McCain’s chances or not. If McCain doesn’t blow it, he can beat either Clinton or Obama — whether the nominee is chosen by throwing Miss Hillary under the bus or by letting every vote count.




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By BadOleBoys
March 31, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
How could anyone argue with that. Don’t miss this chance to vote for an honest politician. After all, they are so rare.
Ron Paul in 2008
By William Hunter
March 31, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
It’s not over till it’s over? I dont know how to respond to this piece, Mr. Wooten. It’s similar to about five other recent pieces you’ve written. Superdelegates may choose Hillary on the floor of the convention intead of honoring the popular vote. Blacks may feel disenfranchised again. We may see an Obama/Clinton ticket, theres a guy named lincoln who did well in illinois…..what?
By Dennis
March 31, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten writes, “If McCain doesn’t blow it, he can beat either Clinton or Obama….”
Not in your best nightmares, Mr. Wooten.
Your boy, George W. Bush, has soured Americans on republicanism for a long time to come - an administration founded on voter fraud, lies about a war which has taken 4000 American lives, the outting of a CIA agent for political gain, lost jobs, looking the other way as CEOs corrupt their corporations, illegal torture, illegal spying on Americans, not only financially bankrupting the nation but continuing to spend like the bills will never come due….
You get the idea.
(And as you continue to promote him, your grandkids will have to pay - just like mine).
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By Redneck Convert
March 31, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
Well, I kind of hope McCain gets elected and then dies in office so the Rev. Huckabee the VP can get to be President. The way McCain looks right now, I’m not sure he will make it thru the election, but with a lot of prayer he might.
And I’m with Wooten on this Hillary woman staying in the race to the end. She’s hated so much she will take peoples mind off of Obama and give McCain a good head start. Maybe he can hang on if he don’t kick the bucket first. He’s looking feebler and feebler. Stuff like getting Iran and Iraq mixed up and saying Iran was training the Sunnys. Anyhow, I hope he has a good bunch of handlers to poke him for the little time he has in the office before Rev. Huckabee takes over. After McCain’s first month or two people will be saying stuff like a mind is a terrible thing to lose.
Ever notice how Presidents age when they get into office? Well, I figure McCain will be a dead ringer for Father Time after the first couple weeks. You could hand him a scythe and he could be the guest at every New Year’s party.
Anyhow, me and Joe Bill and my buddy Jim Earl were talking this weekend about going down to speak to the Canadians about moving in to that country if this Obama gets elected. I won’t stay in a country where you have to hang your head in shame and admit you got one of Those People as President. All you godly Republicans know what I mean. Remember how us GA people was all Democrats till they took up this Integration stuff? The thought of it all is a outrage. Why did we fight the Civil War and spend all that time fighting Integration if this is what we’re going to wind up with?
Have a good day everybody.
By William Hunter
March 31, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
Please stop saying that. I’m begging you!
By BadOleBoys
March 31, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
Well, these so-called super delegates just better be careful if they decide to take a drive through our fair state. They better be real careful about who they let drive and who is seen with the driver.
By the way, did anyone read that article in the weekend WSJ that talked about servitude and the Chattahoochee Brick Company and Trust Company and all those other interesting things that happened after the Civil War. Interesting reading. It’s a good thing that we no longer live in such times.
By BadOleBoys
March 31, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
Dang it, Jim.
Now I’m singing that stupid song in my head thanks to you.
Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer please,…
By ron
March 31, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
I’ve never seen Hillary Clinton as a quitter.Alot of other things,but not a quitter.She has to stay there until the last gun is fired.Until the fat lady sings. Now to the other crisis that is brewing in this country.The shortage of hops.Redneck,what’s going on?They’ll have you cut back to one trip a week.No hops,no beer.Glenn,get on this problem.Jbmlaw,sue somebody.Dusty,cut back a little.Sharezies,you know.
By Radcliff Wannabe
March 31, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
The Civil War was nothing. Most died of disease. The Whiskey Rebellion. Shay’s Rebellion. The Newburgh Conspiracy. These three events in our young nation did more than any other three events to shape what America be.
Jefferson called them the manure of liberty.
By Copyleft
March 31, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
Dennis: Don’t worry. You’ll notice that neither Wooten, nor any other right-wing pundit, is actually “supporting McCain.” They HATE him, and they’ve ordered their followers to do likewise for lo these many months. It’s too late to reverse that effect now.
In fact, the glaring ABSENCE of any cheerleading or visible enthusiasm for McCaint is somewhat telling. He has no ‘faithful’, no ‘base.’ He’s got nothing, really, and nobody on the GOP side really wants to talk about him.
I can’t see that level of enthusiasm translating into much by way of votes, can you?
By Radcliff Wannabe
March 31, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
Gore should weigh in here about Hillary.
By Redneck Convert
March 31, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Well, I might of knowed. Now this Ron tells me there’s a hops shortage. No wonder my boss at the warehouse has been looking at me funny. I kind of thought it was the smoke bomb we put in his car, but I guess he’s got serious things on his mind.
Its bad enough we got to support this librul McCain. Now we’re looking at a future with no beer! Good Southren Baptists like Sister Dusty that like to belly up and have a beer or ten after church will probly wind up at one of them water bars where they pay five bucks for a bottle of water that’s come from someplace where a goat has peed. And without a job I will wind up having to start pulling cash from my cement vault where I keep my money till this Pelousy woman is out of office.
The more things change, the worser they get.
By Al
March 31, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
Now listen here. We have all just about had enough of all this hot air about who would make a better president. I am your most popular president. Heck, I invented super delegates and hot air and global stuff and well you just better watch out. Now get out and vote for Ron Paul in 2008. He’s the only one that hasn’t cheated me out of a presidency yet. In fact, I bet I could beat him in a popular vote too. I wonder if McCain needs a good VP. I was a good VP. He would do a lot better with me than with that Lieberman. He didn’t invent a single thing. I bet I’d be Prez in no time. I wouldn’t have to wait no eight years for another chance. McCain is so old. He was probably around when global warming first began. How much longer can he last? I’m gonna change parties and become a Republican. Then McCain will pick me. I’ve got connections.
By PudHead
March 31, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
The funny thing is that some people think that the Republicans are corrupt, so they vote dumbacrat. The truth is they are all crooks; we need fresh blood from 3rd parties. We need to stop earmarks, what a nice name for bribery. We need to make the people we elect responsible. How about we toe their pay to their voting record; we dock their pay for every missed or present vote. We pay them to make a decision not “present”, then; we the people, need to be able to vote on their pay and perks, not them. How stupid is that? Why do I have to balance my check book and our government does not? If they are not smart enough to balance a check book then they need to be looking for another job.
By TW
March 31, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
If McCain doesn’t blow it, he can beat either Clinton or Obama
Take it to Vegas, Jim…put your money where your mouth is.
Oh, that’s right, Republicans only risk loss when it’s gonna come out of someone else’s hide…
By jose
March 31, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
Democrats NEED Clinton to stay in the race. OBAMA IS UNELECTABLE IN GENERAL ELECTION. “Obama marched with Farrakhan”Obama AND OPRAHS Pastor Slurs Italians in Latest Magazine (CNSNews.com) Wright continues his Obama supported attacks on non-blacks now slurring Italians in issue of Trumpet Newsmag. Wright states, Jesus enemies had their opinion, Italians looked down their garlic noses at the Galileans, and Jesus death on a cross was a public lynching Italian style! This government runs everything from the White House to the schoolhouse, from the Capitol to the KKKlan of white supremacy who is clearly in charge. Every issue published Wright’s rant against white people in which he covers a world that is controlled by white supremacy, a country that’s on its way to hell in a hand basket because of lying politicians, in a culture that still thinks ‘white is right! He said young African-American Christians are more concerned about ‘bling bling’ than about freeing their minds and still Obama says I could no more disown him than I could disown the black community. According to his federal income tax return for 2006, Obama gave the Trinity United church $22,500 in contributions. Trumpet Newsmagazine started 80s, Wright is CEO and Wright’s daughter, Jeri Wright, is the publisher. Requests for comments Obama camp of course not answered. Trumpet Nov/Dec edition, featured Louis Farrakhan, recipient of the Lifetime Achievement “Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter” award. Farrakhan has called Judaism a “gutter religion” and said Jews are “bloodsuckers. Many of the biased cable news pundits try to make viewers believe Obama’s speech limited damage of Wright controversy, but the general election will show voters strongly disagree, especially non-black voters. Obama refuses to explain to the public why he would have someone as such a close spiritual advisor and mentor and why he would expose two young daughters to such hatefulness against fellow Americans. The problem Wright’s comments are not theological views, but political statements. This is a serious issue for Obama in general election. As with each new utterance on the topic of Reverend Wright, Barack Obama confirms his own moral obliviousness and he seems to have disdain for those who are troubled by his own unwillingness to break with Wright, even worse Obama still insists Wright is a brilliant man, So brilliant, apparently, that he has uncovered the plot by white America to kill African Americans, so insightful to perceive the 9/11 attacks caused by American terrorism and his discerning observation Israel is a “dirty” word, and still in Obama’s eyes, Wright is brilliant. This, we are told by biased cable news pundits like CNN Obamaphiles, is not supposed to affect voters’ view of Obama’s judgment. Perhaps voters are embarrassed to tell pollsters they are privately offended. General election Republicans as well as independents and democrats are irked by this moral obtuseness even though media like CNN or Hardball cover it up with bogus Clinton attacks.
By jack
March 31, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
She is the furthest thing from a “Miss” you could imagine. she got to where she is because she is a Mrs. disguised as a Ms. who will bring her houseboy bill to the Whitehouse on a long lease. This greatly pleases Ms. America who she appels to: The fat & 50 crowd
By jose
March 31, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Democrats NEED Clinton to stay in the race. OBAMA IS UNELECTABLE IN GENERAL ELECTION. “Obama marched with Farrakhan”Obama AND OPRAHS Pastor Slurs Italians in Latest Magazine (CNSNews.com) Wright continues his Obama supported attacks on non-blacks now slurring Italians in issue of Trumpet Newsmag. Wright states, Jesus enemies had their opinion, Italians looked down their garlic noses at the Galileans, and Jesus death on a cross was a public lynching Italian style! This government runs everything from the White House to the schoolhouse, from the Capitol to the KKKlan of white supremacy who is clearly in charge. Every issue published Wright’s rant against white people in which he covers a world that is controlled by white supremacy, a country that’s on its way to hell in a hand basket because of lying politicians, in a culture that still thinks ‘white is right! He said young African-American Christians are more concerned about ‘bling bling’ than about freeing their minds and still Obama says I could no more disown him than I could disown the black community. According to his federal income tax return for 2006, Obama gave the Trinity United church $22,500 in contributions. Trumpet Newsmagazine started 80s, Wright is CEO and Wright’s daughter, Jeri Wright, is the publisher. Requests for comments Obama camp of course not answered. Trumpet Nov/Dec edition, featured Louis Farrakhan, recipient of the Lifetime Achievement “Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter” award. Farrakhan has called Judaism a “gutter religion” and said Jews are “bloodsuckers. Many of the biased cable news pundits try to make viewers believe Obama’s speech limited damage of Wright controversy, but the general election will show voters strongly disagree, especially non-black voters. Obama refuses to explain to the public why he would have someone as such a close spiritual advisor and mentor and why he would expose two young daughters to such hatefulness against fellow Americans. The problem Wright’s comments are not theological views, but political statements. This is a serious issue for Obama in general election. As with each new utterance on the topic of Reverend Wright, Barack Obama confirms his own moral obliviousness and he seems to have disdain for those who are troubled by his own unwillingness to break with Wright, even worse Obama still insists Wright is a brilliant man, So brilliant, apparently, that he has uncovered the plot by white America to kill African Americans, so insightful to perceive the 9/11 attacks caused by American terrorism and his discerning observation Israel is a “dirty” word, and still in Obama’s eyes, Wright is brilliant. This, we are told by biased cable news pundits like CNN Obamaphiles, is not supposed to affect voters’ view of Obama’s judgment. Perhaps voters are embarrassed to tell pollsters they are privately offended. General election Republicans as well as independents and democrats are irked by this moral obtuseness even though media like CNN or Hardball cover it up with bogus Clinton attacks.
By PudHead
March 31, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
The funny thing is that some people think that the Republicans are corrupt, so they vote dumbacrat. The truth is they are all crooks; we need fresh blood from 3rd parties. We need to stop earmarks, what a nice name for bribery. We need to make the people we elect responsible. How about we toe their pay to their voting record; we dock their pay for every missed or present vote. We pay them to make a decision not “present”, then; we the people, need to be able to vote on their pay and perks, not them. How stupid is that? Why do I have to balance my check book and our government does not? If they are not smart enough to balance a check book then they need to be looking for another job.
By Lily Toad
March 31, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
Although I support Obama, I don’t think Clinton should drop out. She’s still polling well in PA and is the only one to decide when to quit like all other candidates. I remember the good old days of political conventions when people didn’t know going in who was going to get the nomination. Last few elections have been decided by March or April and that was before all the primaries got moved up. Let the two candidates fight it out for votes. Let the people be heard.
By Mike
March 31, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
McCain already looks like the President while the loser Dems are showing Americans that they cannot even manage to nominate somebody, let alone manage America…McCain by a landslide in November!
By Gilgamesh
March 31, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
CNN has just reported that it’s impossible to sing the song “the name game” with the name “Obama”. A McCain spokesman commented that it’s really easy to use John’s name in that fun song, and that’s why McCain is leading in the polls.
By Bubba Li Cious
March 31, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Hey, I remembers the whiskey rebellion. It wus just the other day. We wus gettin a table dance and the dancer went and slipped and knocked a whole bottle of JD Black Label off the table and busted it. She wouldnt pay fer it and we had ourselves a rebellion. Good thing that pastor wus there to break it up and all.
By PudHead
March 31, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
The funny thing is that some people think that the Republicans are corrupt, so they vote dumbacrat. The truth is they are all crooks; we need fresh blood from 3rd parties. We need to stop earmarks, what a nice name for bribery. We need to make the people we elect responsible. How about we toe their pay to their voting record; we dock their pay for every missed or present vote. We pay them to make a decision not “present”, then; we the people, need to be able to vote on their pay and perks, not them. How stupid is that? Why do I have to balance my check book and our government does not? If they are not smart enough to balance a check book then they need to be looking for another job.
By Paul
March 31, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
I have been puzzled at how the MSM plays up all the attention on the Democratic Primary. The results will be simple: The one with the most delegates wins. If Hillary thinks she can get enough Superdelegates to put her over the top, why should she drop out?
The DNC is trying to get Hillary to get them out of the bind that they put themselves in: starting with the Superdelegate philosophy, then their proportional representation, and then the penalties that they put on Florida and Michigan. I have never seen any group shoot themselves in the foot as much as the Democratic Party has over the years.
The Superdelegates can solve their problem even now. All they have to do is make their individual preferences known. They do not have to wait until June. Apparently they do not have the guts to do it.
Actually Hillary Clinton has much in common with George Washington. George won only 3 of the 9 battles he was in (1/3). Hillary has won 12 out of the 38 battles she has been in (14 out of 40, if you want to include Florida and Michigan), but still roughly only 1/3. George went on to not only become President of the United States, but the Father of our Country as well.
We need to quit beating up on Hillary. Go girl!
By Mike
March 31, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
McCain already looks like the President while the loser Dems are showing Americans that they cannot even manage to nominate somebody, let alone manage America…McCain by a landslide in November!
By PudHead
March 31, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
The funny thing is that some people think that the Republicans are corrupt, so they vote dumbacrat. The truth is they are all crooks; we need fresh blood from 3rd parties. We need to stop earmarks, what a nice name for bribery. We need to make the people we elect responsible. How about we toe their pay to their voting record; we dock their pay for every missed or present vote. We pay them to make a decision not “present”, then; we the people, need to be able to vote on their pay and perks, not them. How stupid is that? Why do I have to balance my check book and our government does not? If they are not smart enough to balance a check book then they need to be looking for another job.
By Paul
March 31, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
I have been puzzled at how the MSM plays up all the attention on the Democratic Primary. The results will be simple: The one with the most delegates wins. If Hillary thinks she can get enough Superdelegates to put her over the top, why should she drop out?
The DNC is trying to get Hillary to get them out of the bind that they put themselves in: starting with the Superdelegate philosophy, then their proportional representation, and then the penalties that they put on Florida and Michigan. I have never seen any group shoot themselves in the foot as much as the Democratic Party has over the years.
The Superdelegates can solve their problem even now. All they have to do is make their individual preferences known. They do not have to wait until June. Apparently they do not have the guts to do it.
Actually Hillary Clinton has much in common with George Washington. George won only 3 of the 9 battles he was in (1/3). Hillary has won 12 out of the 38 battles she has been in (14 out of 40, if you want to include Florida and Michigan), but still roughly only 1/3. George went on to not only become President of the United States, but the Father of our Country as well.
We need to quit beating up on Hillary. Go girl!
By Peter
March 31, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
Well it looks like more Government involvement in Big Business……
Gee what happened to letting the markets determine the out come?
Gotta Love the Right Wing…. talk out of two side or their mouth.
Bush speaks with forked tongue.
Now why are they fixing the financial markets, and regulating them heavier, but NOT in the Health care market ?
Any wrongs out there want to present their opinion ?
By getalife
March 31, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
The spineless senators like Obama’s unity so they will vote with the gop for corporate interest. They all should be voted out of office and do not want 12 million Americans to vote.
w booed throwing out the first pitch was hilarious.
Obama is a fraud but his supporters do not care
The survey shows the real Obama.
By Gilgamesh
March 31, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
Obmamania, like Beatlemania, is vulnerable to verbal gaffs. Obama was dumb enough to mention that he’s more popular than MLK, and now they’re burning obama’s record in the senate. Obama tried to apologize on CNN minutes ago, but it didn’t go well. Here’s a transcript: “I wasn’t trying to compare me self with MLK as a homie or a playah, or whatever it is, but I said it and it was wrong, and now there’s all of this….what I meant was that I’ve been on more bootie calls than he was on, that’s all, so what? what?”
By Curious Observer
March 31, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Now why are they fixing the financial markets, and regulating them heavier, but NOT in the Health care market?
Gee, I dunno. Maybe the financial markets have proven themselves incapable of being responsible for their actions. Enron, Bear Stearns, and a few hundred other companies come to mind. And at least the newly proposed regulations also govern the insurance industry, which until now has been able to do whatever it wishes, provided the palms of state insurance commissioners are greased lavishly. Bye, bye, Oxendine.
By PudHead
March 31, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
The funny thing is that some people think that the Republicans are corrupt, so they vote dumbacrat. The truth is they are all crooks; we need fresh blood from 3rd parties. We need to stop earmarks, what a nice name for bribery. We need to make the people we elect responsible. How about we toe their pay to their voting record; we dock their pay for every missed or present vote. We pay them to make a decision not “present”, then; we the people, need to be able to vote on their pay and perks, not them. How stupid is that? Why do I have to balance my check book and our government does not? If they are not smart enough to balance a check book then they need to be looking for another job.
By Peter
March 31, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Well curious observer……. Do you think the Health Care system is working correctly ?
Do you think the Health care providers are being responsible to the folks they serve ?
I doubt it with So many folks not having coverage in America.
By Jackie
March 31, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
The Federal Reserve is being touted as a savior in the current credit crisis. If you look closely at the current structure, the Fed was charged with keeping their eye on impending financial dilemma and adjust the supply of money accordingly.
Now, we are being told that fox(Fed) is going to watch the hen-house with greater fervor. The next time, those chickens will not get out without our being warned.
Another move toward our government exercising absolute control of our lives.
Who will protect us from them?
By Moccasin Redemption
March 31, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
You cant make a silk parse out of a sow’s earmark, moron.
By Charles
March 31, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Let’s face it everybody. The powers that be didn’t give the voting public good candidates, republicans or democrats. In my humble opinion, Ron Paul was the only presidential candidate worthy of the job.
African Americans should not vote for Barack Obama; especially young Black Americans. He will do for the nation and the other societies what so-called educated integrationist black leaders and their minions have done to the masses of black people in this country. Ninety five percent, 95%, of black people in America are completely detached from reality. Forty years ago, the reverse was true.
Jim Wooten is correct on one assertion and incorrect on another. European Senator John McCain will defeat Mongrel Senator Barack Obama in the general election. But European Senator John McCain will lose to European Senator Hillary Clinton.
If European Senator Hillary Clinton is the democratic nominee, the democrats win the White House in November. The Republicans Win the White House if Mongrel Barack Obama is the democratic nominee.
By Gilgamesh
March 31, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
Key to Iraq and McCain’s 08 victory: Does the Iraqi Pledge of Allegience supercede the Iraqi Pledge of Allahgence.
By Coincidently Oxbow
March 31, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this
I was listening to Boortz on the radio in the car today, and I looked over at this other motorist stopped at my redlight, and he was nodding his head in approval just like I was so I turned off my radio and sure enough he was listening to Boortz too, and our eyes met and we just sat there in this moment of awakening about conservatism.
By Jackie
March 31, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
@Charles,
I didn’t know that you were so concerned with helping blacks?
I thought your mantra was have a means of making your subtle racial innuendos revealing your proclivity in expose your racial insensitivity if not outright racist attitude.
What is a mongrel? Would that be descriptive of you and your love/hate of your ethnicity?
By MomCat
March 31, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
By PudHead March 31, 2008 10:27 AM The funny thing is that some people think that the Republicans are corrupt, so they vote dumbacrat. The truth is they are all crooks; we need fresh blood from 3rd parties.
PudHead, all we get from 3rd parties are idiots who believe in nothing! Ralph Nader is a perfect example! Hate to say this, but we’re doomed! Thank you Lord, I have no children or grandchildren! Amazingly though, I care for extended family and (idiot) friends more than they know, even though they choose to dig their own grave. So be it. Sometimes we just have to ‘let it go’ so to speak!
By Charles
March 31, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Forty years ago, ninety five percent, 95%, of African Americans were conservative. Five percent, 5% were liberal.
Today the reverse is true.
By Coincidently Oxbow
March 31, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
Bwa. Hillary on Sat. Night Live last night. She lost 3 superdelegates for blowing the “Live from new york, it’s sat. night. Do you know where bill is?”
A woman, monica, ruined our country, let’s face it. We are molested by the image. WE cant recover. It’s all AMerica is now. A woman, monica.
Vote 4 McCain and hope for the best.
By Charles
March 31, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
Jackie,
The so-called educated integrationists Negroes have confused you to the point of insanity. Like most Negroes, you can’t distinguish a friend from foe, racist from non racist etc.
For your information, so-called educated integrationists Negroes are enemies of all black people. I happened to be a friend of black people.
By Dusty
March 31, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
Jim Wooten gave us a great title “Driving Miss Hillary”. that’s a nice light one that gives us a head start with a smile.
Of course, Hillary should not drop out. Why should she? Just to please some dropout (Leahy)who couldn’t make it? Hillary is smart, energetic, and agressive. But…I wouldn’t vote for her EVER. Her obvious greed for power has led her to accept too many questionable actions. A little lying here, a little money making there, a little concocted conspiracy somewhere….almost anything goes for power.
Obama is no better with his undercover but obvious racial bigotry. Neither of these two is suited to be president of a great country like America. McCain is!
There was a time when age was considered the wisest time of life. Now I see the start of a lib smear campaign against anybody over sixty, in particularly McCain, a hero and a patriot.
Well, libs, so tell your grandparents to drop dead. They will smile, remove you from their will, and go vote for McCain because they are smarter than you.
Yep, Driving Miss Hillary is a trip to nowhere anyway you go. In the meantime SUSTAIN McCAIN!!
By Andy
March 31, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
Every vote counts huh? Just like the Democrats wanted the overseas military vote counted in the 2000 recount?
Keep dodging that sniper fire Hillary!
As conservative who was a former life long Republican, 3 months ago I would have told you there wasn’t any chance for a Republican getting back into the oval office in 2008 because the Hillabeast was a shoe in.
Now with what appears to be a choice between Obamma and McCain, McCain could easily win in a landslide.
I personally can’t stand either one of these guys but the DNC has screwed the pooch by not backing Hillary.
Better McCain than Obamma as we continue deeper into the national financial disaster I guess.
By alice newton
March 31, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
Klobuchar, Bob Casey and Leahy need to be asked to step down of their jobs these are ignorant politicians who don’t understand the Democratic process,Pelosi is another person in the wrong job. Pelosi is a Republican acting like a Democrat, she doesn’t even know the Super delegares votes their will regardles of who have the majority of votes or pledged delegates this is the degree of ignorance the American people are subjected by uneducated people.
By Charles
March 31, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
Jackie,
Don’t allow gate-keepers, bloggers, to deceive you with their propaganda.
It’s evident that you’ve not had a “black man” to speak to you truthfully, without deception.
Why? Ninety five, 95%, of black people are totally detached from reality. If you think that certain people in society will allow you and others to escape this mental trap, you are deceiving yourself.
The so-called educated integrationists Negroes are to blame. They shouldn’t have subjected the masses of black people, mind, spirit, and body to the mercy of others via integration.
By BS Detector
March 31, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
PRINCETON, NJ — Barack Obama has extended his lead over Hillary Clinton among Democrats nationally to 52% to 42%, the third consecutive Gallup Poll Daily tracking report in which he has held a statistically significant lead, and Obama’s largest lead of the year so far.
Keep driving that SS Titanic, Hillary & Friends. We need the news since the War In Iraq isn’t going so bad these days and about off the radar these days.
During his first run for elected office, Barack Obama played a greater role than his aides now acknowledge in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion — positions that appear at odds with the more moderate image he has projected during his presidential campaign.
Ah yes. A liberal is a liberal is a liberal. Gee, according to liberals on this blog, liberals and liberalism is the popular thought in this nation these days. Then why so sheepish in a wolf’s skin, Obama?
The fairness of Sunday talk shows - here’s what a “fair and balanced” talk show is according to liberals with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos’ “This Week”:
Robert Reich: Clinton’s former Labor Secretary and co-founder of the liberal American Prospect magazine.
Paul Krugman: Liberal professor of economics and a NYT columnist.
Donna Brazile: Democrat strategist, former Gore campaign manager.
George Stephanopoulos: Bill Clinton senior political adviser
George Will: “moderate” conservative columnist who is to this “round table” as liberals claim Alan Colmes is to FoxNews (a lightweight for his cause).
That, I presume, is a “fair and balanced” talk show according to the left.
By Jackie
March 31, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
@Charles,
Why don’t you speak to me about your reality. You seem to fall outside the number that you quote, therefore it is assumed by your statement you have insight as to a more esoteric occurrence of what the black experience happens to be?
Please present your thesis.
By George Washington
March 31, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
I can promise the neoclown woodenhead that there will be no Federal bailout of the AJC as ad revenue plunges Nationwide for the soon to be extint newspaper bizness. “The newspaper industry has experienced the worst drop in advertising revenue in more than 50 years.
According to new data released by the Newspaper Association of America, total print advertising revenue in 2007 plunged 9.4% to $42 billion compared to 2006 — the most severe percent decline since the association started measuring advertising expenditures in 1950.
The drop-off points to an economic slowdown on top of the secular challenges faced by the industry. The second worst decline in advertising revenue occurred in 2001 when it fell 9.0%.
Total advertising revenue in 2007 — including online revenue — decreased 7.9% to $45.3 billion compared to the prior year.
There are signs that online revenue is beginning to slow as well. Internet ad revenue in 2007 grew 18.8% to $3.2 billion compared to 2006. In 2006, online ad revenue had soared 31.4% to $2.6 billion. In 2005, it jumped 31.4% to $2 billion.
As newspaper Web sites generate more advertising revenue, the growth rate naturally slows.
The NAA reported that online revenue now represents 7.5% of total newspaper ad revenue in 2007 compared to 5.7% in 2006.
That growth could not stave off the losses in the print however. National print advertising revenue dropped 6.7% to $7 billion last year. Retail slipped 5% to $21 billion. Classified plunged 16.5% to $14.1 billion.
“Even with the near-term challenges posed to print media by a more fragmented information environment and the economic headwinds facing all advertising media, newspapers publishers are continuing to drive strong revenue growth from their increasingly robust Web platforms,” John Sturm, president and CEO of the NAA, said in a statement.”
By 800-PSYCHIC
March 31, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
Right now, the left is laughing at Conservatives and saying that we don’t have a real Conservative in McCain - as if George W. Bush has acted like a conservative outside of tax cuts and fighting terrorism around the globe. In the past, the media and Democrats have praised McCain for being a maverick “liberal” Republican. However, the psychic tarot cards read that as we get closer to November and McCain looks more and more likely to beat either Democratic candidate, McCain will be touted as nothing more than another W. Watch the funny lizards on the left change their colors.
By Jean Chevreille
March 31, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Let the remaining states vote. It won’t change much, as their voice will only reflect what their predecessors saw. As for the national election, may the candidate who can get his facts straight win. Al Queda in Iran? Sure makes one wonder.
By George Washington
March 31, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
Alice, Alice, Alice don’t you have a piano lesson to cover, or some cookies to bake? Leave politics to the BIG boys.
By @@
March 31, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
Funny title Jim - I yike it!
Some in the Democratic Party don’t want the people to be heard? So what else is new?
I predicted this nasty “power play” between the democrats early on and they haven’t disappointed me.
When you listen to the party pundits, they keep talking about the “electability” factor.
So let’s review…….
we’ve got Hillary’s EXPERIENCE,
Obama’s HOPE
and the Pundits talking ELECTABILITY?
The party is HOPING that this EXPERIENCE will bring about their party’s ELECTABILITY but no mention of a leader.
It ain’t a-gonna happen - NO WAY…NO HOW. John McCain will take this PRESIDENTIAL election in November, and the dems will have no one to blame but themselves.
Republicans are sitting in the catbird seat TWEET TWEET.
By Jackie
March 31, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
@Charles,
I am sure you are collecting your thoughts so as your presentation of your thesis on the educated insight you will provide to all Negroes concerning their failure to understand what integration has done to them.
Your elucidation is sorely needed.
Can’t wait for your post.
By Dusty
March 31, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
George Washington,12:43
Why don’t you chop down another cherry tree? Drop another tea bag in the harbor? Leave poltics to the BIG boys?!!! We know that Martha tells you every move to make, big boy. Clap those wooden teeth together and grin and bear it!! Alice can say what she wants to say.
By Charles
March 31, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
Jackie,
I am not a kiss butt, low life, so-called educated integrationist Negro. I have attained several University degrees but received a more valuable education from Grand Master Teachers in the black community. We are in the business of building institutional power for black people. From that psychological advantage alone, we don’t feel the powerlessness that 95% of black people experience 24/7 from cradle to grave.
People in our organization feel powerful! Therefore we don’t feel the need to strike out/insult any people.
There is no racism in these United States. There is a colossal imbalance of institutional power. If people, black or white, can keep us focused on racism, we will be talking about racism a thousand years from today. There will be no change in the lives of black people.
The revolution for black people in these United States is to build the necessary institutions to service the basic needs of black people and presto, what we thought was racism evaporates.
If you understand this summary, you are an intelligent “human being”.
By Jean Chevreille
March 31, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
No malt for beer? Now, that’s one crisis both yankees and rednecks can agree on. Guess we’re not that different after all.
By Jackie
March 31, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
The Repubs should be dreading November.
There have been more than 30 Repubs who have either resigned and/or will not stand for reelection in the US House.
The US Senate races currently shows 7 Repubs have resigned and/or is in deep reelection trouble. Collins(ME), Sunnu(VT), Coleman(MN), Colorado open, New Mexico open, Smith(OR) and toss-up Alaska.
Either Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton will be the next Pres. of the USA. McCain will win in some Southern states and AZ.
By Charles
March 31, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
Jackie,
Sorry for the delay, but I got a phone call from my sweet thang. We have been happily married for twenty four years. I’m telling you folks, it gets better with age.
I hope it’s the same for you all but I seriously doubt it.
By Coincidently Oxbow
March 31, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
“Driving Miss Hillary” only works if Obama chooses her as his running mate. How is “Driving Miss Hillary” funny or relevent?
You trolls dont even know do you? There’s not even a “sounds like” association with the movie title or the movie’s plot or characters or nothing.
Yet, dusty and @@ would pretend they “get it”.
That’s why, if you’ve ever wondered, why I cant stop myself from torpedoing those two nincompoops. Cant help it. Sorry.
By Yesssssssssssss!
March 31, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
Excellent Charles! Kudos to you.
When a dem political machine persistently reflects the DIM prospects of a people, they’ve got them right where they want them. What ever happened to Jesse’s message “YOU ARE SOMEBODY?”
He and the dems changed it to “YOU ARE NEEDY!”
Wassup wit dat?
By GaLiberal
March 31, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this
Moron Jim says: Democrats are panicky because the Rasmussen tracking poll covering Wednesday through Saturday puts John McCain up 3 points, 47-44, over Obama and up 10 points, 50-40, over Clinton.
What Moron Jim doesn’t tell you (actually lies about) is that Democrats only want to make sure there is a clear path select a candidate. Democrats are not “panicky” over some poll numbers that mean nothing at this point in the process. I recall that Obama would beat McCain 52%-48% at one time so these numbers shift with the wind. It would be much more telling if there was a state-by-state breakdown to show how the electoral college is going to perform. Another stat that Moron Jim doesn’t broadcast is that about 30% of white males would not vote for Obama simply because he’s non-white. Talk about covert racism. It’s understandable because these are the same 30%ers that still support Bush.
Go find something else to lie about Moron Jim. Maybe the need to invade another country or the economy is healthy. That’s because all you and your Rethuglicon bootlicking followers have is lies.
When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And Moron Jim’s lies and spin is living proof.
By Disgusted
March 31, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
Hedge funds and beers Laughter and tears McCain = Bush Four more years
By David Butler
March 31, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
May an Englishman who has no right to an opinion nevertheless express one? The Democrats have a tradition of picking candidates who please their own ranks but have no chance of being elected. Mondale, Dukakis, now Obama. If Obama is the candidate, with his pastor preaching hatred of the USA, McCain wins. After a disastrous war and shredding the economy, Republicans keep the White House. How sad is that? Mrs Clinton is not loved in her own party, but she could win.
By Charles
March 31, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
I’ve got to sign off for today everybody. I hope to talk to you tomorrow; God willing.
Keep putting it down Yessssssssssss!
By Coincidently Oxbow
March 31, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
Its too early to call this race. David Duke could still win for all I know.
The point is to blog anyway because the founding fathers blogged.
By Cass
March 31, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Let them keep Demanding she Drop Out. Let Obama keep playing his underhanded good Cop Bad Cop Routines… like saying in PA it’s like a movie that’s gone on too long… and flip-flopping the next to say, “Hillary should stay in the race as long as she wants” like she needs his permission.
People are seeing through Obama’s say one thing and do another. People are realizing he’s as vicious a politician as there ever was, but puts on a nice front.
People are realizing David Axelrod and Obama have been working together to undermine truth, and place glowing stories about Obama since he arrived from Wall Steet in Illinois to be a Golden Boy, but he’s really never changed anything for anybody.
Keep calling for Hillary to Drop Out because she looks courageous, with down-to-earth American vales, and as someone who does not give up when the going gets tough and OBAMA LOOKS LIKE AN UNDERHANDED COWARD AND DOUBLE_TALKER… Which is what he’s proved that he is.
By getalife
March 31, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Of course, the story about Clinton not paying her bills is a lie. Total bs, as usual.
The corporate media have no shame in their ugly bias and Obama and mcbushie are both frauds.
Americans are consumed with hatred and whacked out on prescription drugs.
Lower your expectations people so you will not be shocked that nothing will change.
Adapt to the new America.
By GaLiberal
March 31, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
Moron Jim says: Democrats are panicky because the Rasmussen tracking poll covering Wednesday through Saturday puts John McCain up 3 points, 47-44, over Obama and up 10 points, 50-40, over Clinton.
What Moron Jim doesn’t tell you (actually lies about) is that Democrats only want to make sure there is a clear path select a candidate. Democrats are not “panicky” over some poll numbers that mean nothing at this point in the process. I recall that Obama would beat McCain 52%-48% at one time so these numbers shift with the wind. It would be much more telling if there was a state-by-state breakdown to show how the electoral college is going to perform. Another stat that Moron Jim doesn’t broadcast is that about 30% of white males would not vote for Obama simply because he’s non-white. Talk about covert racism. It’s understandable because these are the same 30%ers that still support Bush.
Go find something else to lie about Moron Jim. Maybe the need to invade another country or the economy is healthy. That’s because all you and your Rethuglicon bootlicking followers have is lies.
When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And Moron Jim’s lies and spin is living proof.
By Steve
March 31, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
Let them keep Demanding she Drop Out. Let Obama keep playing his underhanded good Cop Bad Cop Routines… like saying in PA it’s like a movie that’s gone on too long… and flip-flopping the next to say, “Hillary should stay in the race as long as she wants” like she needs his permission.
People are seeing through Obama’s say one thing and do another. People are realizing he’s as vicious a politician as there ever was, but puts on a nice front.
People are realizing David Axelrod and Obama have been working together to undermine truth, and place glowing stories about Obama since he arrived from Wall Steet in Illinois to be a Golden Boy, but he’s really never changed anything for anybody.
Keep calling for Hillary to Drop Out because she looks courageous, with down-to-earth American vales, and as someone who does not give up when the going gets tough and OBAMA LOOKS LIKE AN UNDERHANDED COWARD AND DOUBLE_TALKER… Which is what he’s proved that he is.
By jacksmith
March 31, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
YOU MIGHT BE AN IDIOT:-)
If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary’s than they had ever been before or since.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)
Best regards
jacksmith…
By George Washington
March 31, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
I know about courageous, and I can assure you that short fat women are never, ever considered courageous, just ask shorty dusty, the fattest of the fat. If they were to be considered courageous, they would not be fat…How much courage does it take to pass on second helpings?
By George Washington
March 31, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
Right now, according to the OCC, just five major U.S. commercial banks control 97% of all the bank-held derivatives in the United States, a concentration of power — and risk — unsurpassed in the history of finance.
Four of these banks — Bank of America, Citibank, JPMorgan Chase, Wachovia, and HSBC — have more credit exposure to derivatives defaults than they have in capital.
And among them, the U.S.-based bank taking the most risk (based on the OCC’s data) is precisely the same one that has swallowed up the failed Bear Stearns — JPMorgan Chase. Here are the facts:
JP Morgan’s exposure to credit risks associated with derivatives is now 416% of its capital.
JP Morgan alone controls $91.7 trillion in derivatives. That’s over five times more than the total derivatives on the books of all U.S. banks when the GAO issued its warnings back in 1994.
JP Morgan now has an astonishing 53% of the entire U.S. derivatives market today. This means that: In the labyrinthine world of derivatives, all roads lead to Morgan. And no matter which Wall Street firm is — or is rumored to be — in trouble, JP Morgan Chase will be directly and immediately impacted.
So now do you understand why the Fed was so desperate to bail out Bear Stearns two weeks ago? And now do you see why JP Morgan was the bank that immediately stepped up to the plate to take over?
It was pure self defense. And they had no choice.
That’s also why Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke tore up the entire rule book of a half-century of Fed policy in a single weekend. And that’s why he will continue to crank up the printing presses … slash interest rates … and do everything in his power to throw billions of newly created, unbacked paper dollars into the economy.
Meanwhile, despite all of his efforts, this week’s reports proved that the nation’s manufacturers are slashing their orders … home values are continuing to plunge nationwide … millions of homeowners are still defaulting on their mortgages … and the credit crisis continues to spread.
But in his desperation to prevent a Wall Street meltdown and paper over the credit crisis, Mr. Bernanke is creating an even greater problem …
By George Washington
March 31, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
The U.S. Dollar Is Now Suffering Its Worst Plunge in History
Just in the last few days, a minor rally in the dollar has evaporated, and the long plunge in the U.S. dollar — the worst in history — has resumed.
The simple fact is that money is just like every other commodity: It operates on the law of supply and demand.
When the supply of money — in this case, the U.S. dollar — surges, its value falls. Put simply, every new dollar the Fed is creating right now to rescue the likes of Bear Stearns or to save the economy — is reducing the value of every other dollar in circulation:
Every dollar in your paycheck …
Every dollar in your savings accounts …
Every dollar you invest …
Every dollar you have socked away for retirement.
Now, the Fed is printing money like there’s no tomorrow. And as those hundreds of billions of new dollars come home to roost, they’re turning the once-proud greenback into the laughingstock of the currency world.
That’s why — for the first time ever — many economists are beginning to fear the nightmare scenario: The day when foreigners, who own more than $7 trillion in U.S. dollars simply say, “enough!”
When that happens — when foreigners stampede for the exits — all heck could break loose. The rapid decline we’ve seen in the dollar’s value so far will turn into a full-fledged crash with the power to cut your buying power in half.
Why the Falling Dollar Is the Single Most Dangerous …Event of Your Investing Lifetime
By Devastator
March 31, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
Obama win appears big in Texas delegate battle By Anna M. Tinsley, Aman Batheja and Sarah Bahari | Fort Worth Star-Telegam Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008
Barrack Obama appeared to have scored a clear victory over Hillary Clinton on Saturday in the second step of Texas’ multi-tiered process for selecting its delegates to the Democratic National Convention. With results available from about half of the district conventions held statewide, the Associated Press reported that Obama had won 59 percent of the delegates headed to the state party’s June convention to Clinton’s 41 percent. That translates into 1,858 delegates for Obama and 1,270 for Clinton.
That result made it likely that when the delegate selection process is finally completed, Obama will have more Texas delegates to the national convention than Clinton, despite Clinton’s having won the March 4 primary vote 51 to 47 percent. Under Texas’ delegate selection process, 67 of its 206 delegates are selected by the June state party convention.
Tens of thousands of Texas Democrats turned out for Saturday’s district conventions in a chaotic day in which many of the meetings in Texas’ large cities lasted late into the night. Some delegates — confused and frustrated by hours-long delays, disorder and disorganization — gave up on the process and left, still not sure if their vote counted. “Please move a bit faster,” urged delegate Whitney Larkins, who attended the largest senatorial district in Fort Worth gathered at the Will Rogers Coliseum. “Have some consideration. Think about those of us who took time out of our lives to participate in this.”
Read the full story at star-telegram.com.
By Muniz4Hillary
March 31, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
Bill Richardson said about his superdelegate vote, “It should reflect the vote of my state, it should represent the vote of my constituency.” HMMM! Then he votes for Obama and says “Hillary only won new mexico by half percent”
Obama leads by pledged delegates is 4% and popular vote is 3%, shouldn’t we also say this is negligible when the other superdelegates decide?
Regardless, superdelegates were setup to CHOOSE who they think will beat MCcain; so I am not going to have a problem with how superdelegates vote if they vote according to who would be the best to win in november… they have to make an HONEST decision!
If in the end it isn’t Hillary then I will put her name on the ballot come november because I am with her until the end, obama the LYING clown who got a FREE ride will never ever get my vote and I am not racist, I am just angry as H3LL!
By PudHead
March 31, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
MomCat you are the reason for the perpetuation of the losers that we have in office. Try to elect somebody who is not beholden to special interest or big business. Time to think outside the box.
By George Washington
March 31, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
Gitadyke - How do you know the story about ClinTax not paying her bills is false? Do you have inside information, or do you just make it up as you go along, like ALL Dummycrats?
By Devastator
March 31, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
Muniz4Hillary,
It must be rough being you.
By @@
March 31, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
Hey CocsBeau:
How is “Driving Miss Hillary” funny or relevent?
Remember when Miss Daisy was going to hear MLK speak? She was hesitant to invite Hoke to accompany her. Do you remember why?
Her reluctance underlined the passive racism (Democrat’s) that often goes unnoticed when compared with more open and aggravated racism (Democrat’s) that guys like Rev. Wright perpetuate.
I’ve known about the Democrats passive racism for sometime. Not until recently, has the open and aggravated racism displayed by Rev. Wright been brought to my attention.
The “First Black President’s” wife is a racist against blacks. That’s what I found funny in a sad kinda way.
You’re not sorry PoliFore. What is it with Democrats - why can’t you/they be honest?
By Copyleft
March 31, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
I see my earlier statement holds true… even the most diehard of right-wingers can’t find anything to say about McCaint.
They just plain don’t LIKE the guy! And their assumption that McCain (despite their disdain for him) could beat a three-way race of him vs. Obama vs. Hillary… is just wishful thinking.
They’re going down, and they know it. A better, more liberal America’s a-comin’, folks! Wheee!
By GayGreyGeek
March 31, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
getaclue and jacksmith - Let’s talk about how Hillary Huckabee was under all that “sniper fire” in Bosnia.
Oh, that’s right - the only riflemen were America’s own sharpshooters.
Stick a fork in her. It’s over. She’s the Mike Huckabee of the Democratic party. Give it up.
By Peggy McGilligan
March 31, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
“Why do I have to keep proving to people that I am not a liar?!” -Hillary Rodham Clinton, 2000
Truth is, Hillary Clinton lies. Although Hillary will continue to lie, thank goodness for that. She’s going to get caught; just you wait and see: http://theseedsof9-11.com
By Devastator
March 31, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
GayGreek,
You should Bill Maher’s new video game. It features Hillary battling the enemy sniper fire. It contains an audio that says “Cover me Chelsea!”.
By GayGreyGeek
March 31, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
Devastator/Unity/Apocalypse - What about this variation? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHVEDq6RVXc
By Devastator
March 31, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
GGG,
I was just looking for that clip and you beat me to it.lol
Oh well, I gues we have to take her for her word from now on.
By AmVet
March 31, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
I’m not sure what is more ilustrative, and frankly, hysterical.
The way that up until a few months ago all the hicks in the world were proudly claiming themselves to be “conservatives”. You know just like their heroes in Washington.
Or…
Now just one elctoral a$$-kicking later and watching a boatload of neo-cons get b!tch-slapped by a moderate RINO, there appear to be NO “conservatives”.
Not Bush.
Not McCain.
Not Rudy.
Not no one. Not no how.
Talk about one gigantic identity crisis!
Last night when I heard that W was going to be on the Braves-Nats game, I thought OK, which is it? Change the channel or just get a puke bucket ready.
But I actually enjoyed watching the worst President in history banter with Joe and John. As a regular guy he is probably alright.
But I’m still PO’d at MLB. Given the chance to make him commissioner, we sure could have saved ourselves from this sh!tstorm of the past seven years.
And with Japanese-size parks, an abortion of a strike zone and the despicable DH, it’s not like George could have screwed the game up that much more…
By jacksmith
March 31, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
DON’T BE DUPED !!!
Large numbers of Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on. Because they feel he would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And because they feel that a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket would be unbeatable. And also because with a Clinton and Obama ticket you are almost 100% certain to get quality, affordable universal health care very soon.
But first, all of you have to make certain that Hillary Clinton takes the democratic nomination and then the Whitehouse. NOW! is the time. THIS! is the moment you have all been working, and waiting for. You can do this America. “Carpe diem” (harvest the day).
I think Hillary Clinton see’s a beautiful world of plenty for all. She is a woman, and a mother. And it’s time America. Do this for your-selves, and your children’s future. You will have to work together on this and be aggressive, relentless, and creative. Americans face an even worse catastrophe ahead than the one you are living through now.
You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don’t want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves.
Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama’s. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!
As much as 30% of Obama’s primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help.
Hillary Clinton has been out manned, out gunned, and out spent 2 and 3 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton.
If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. Because the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. All of this vote fraud and republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is. YOUNG PEOPLE. DON’T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose.
The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. I suggest a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.
I think Barack Obama has a once in a life time chance to make the ultimate historic gesture for unity, and change in America by accepting Hillary Clinton’s offer as running mate. Such an act now would for ever seal Barack Obama’s place at the top of the list of Americas all time great leaders, and unifiers for all of history.
The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.
Fortunately the Clinton’s have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic comebacks of Hillary Clinton’s. Only the Clinton’s are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen.
“This is not a game” (Hillary Clinton)
Sincerely
jacksmith…
By Paige
March 31, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
Dude, if you seriously think Hillary is out of the game if she loses the nomination, you are letting hatred blind you to reality. She may never be president - at least I hope not, Obama 08! - but she remains one of the most knowledgeable and well-connected statesmen of our time. The woman wields a lot of power, both in front of and behind the scenes, and will until the day she decides to let it go. And women live longer than men.
By Paige
March 31, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
Dude, if you seriously think Hillary is out of the game if she loses the nomination, you are letting hatred blind you to reality. She may never be president - at least I hope not, Obama 08! - but she remains one of the most knowledgeable and well-connected statesmen of our time. The woman wields a lot of power, both in front of and behind the scenes, and will until the day she decides to let it go. And women live longer than men.
By Devastator
March 31, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
WASHINGTON — Barack Obama has gained another superdelegate. Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar endorsed her Illinois colleague Sunday night, saying in a statement that Obama “has inspired an enthusiasm and idealism that we have not seen in this country in a long time.”
It is the latest development among many that have been putting Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign on its heels. On Monday, Obama was poised to receive the endorsement of the seven Democrats on North Carolina’s congressional delegation, The Wall Street Journal reported.
Obama also got support last week from Pennsylvania Sen. Bob Casey, a key endorsement three weeks before the Keystone State holds its primary.
The Klobuchar, Casey and expected North Carolina lawmaker endorsements are crucial, because all of them will be superdelegates at the August party convention.
The Journal reported that while Clinton still leads Obama in the superdelegate tally, Clinton has won only nine superdelegate pledges to Obama’s 64 since Super Tuesday. Because neither candidate is likely to gain the 2,025 delegates necessary to clinch the nomination before the convention, the candidates have turned toward racking up as many of the approximately 800 superdelegates who aren’t bound by state nominating contests.Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean on Friday called for the remaining undecided superdelegates to make up their minds by July 1 in an effort to avert a convention crisis. His comments came the same day Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy said Clinton’s campaign was a lost cause and she should drop out of the race.
The latest Gallup Daily tracking poll (March 27-29; 1,228 Democratic, Democratic-leaning voters; +/-3 percent margin of error) shows Clinton ceding more ground nationally to Obama, who now leads 52 percent to 42 percent.
The poll was conducted as both Clinton and Obama fought off public criticism — Clinton for falsely insisting she had landed under sniper fire in a 1996 trip to war-torn Bosnia, and Obama for being a longtime member of the Chicago church headed by the bombastic Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.
Klobuchar, in her first term in the Senate, said Obama speaks “with a different voice, bringing a new perspective and inspiring a real excitement from the American people.” She compared him to the late Hubert Humphrey, who served as a senator from Minnesota and as vice president under Lyndon Johnson.
Obama carried Minnesota by a large margin over Clinton last month.
“My endorsement reflects both Barack’s strong support in my state and my own independent judgment about his abilities,” Klobuchar said.
She cited their work together on issues such as ethics reform and toy safety.
“Barack has been a proven agent for change and advocate for middle-class Americans,” Klobuchar said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
By dave
March 31, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
Which one will BAN all religion? Or in the very least TAX all churches? They are in the business of lying to people, and pay no taxes? Even with seperation of church and state? Bring me someone with the balls to tax the churches!!! That is who gets my vote! ;-)
By Devastator
March 31, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
jacksmith,
Don’t you be duped! That theory was created just to keep from admitting that Obama is doing the unexpected. They can’t vote twice in each primary!
Accept what Barack is doing and stop looking for an excuse to not be excited!
By BadOleBoys
March 31, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
We will be rid of Bush and any of the three choices will be better. We just need to get rid of this lousy bunch of Incumbent Georgia Republicans next. Perdue will be gone soon enough. We cannot afford to have the likes of Cagle or Richardson or any of their loyal bootlickers sticking around either. What a pathetic bunch.
By GayGreyGeek
March 31, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
jacksmith - Calm down, take a Xanax, and face the fact that Hillary Huckabee is never going to be the nominee unless she takes “The Tonya Harding Option” - http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/dnc-official-cl.html - which would pretty much guarantee that Bushy McClone becomes POTUS.
By Dan
March 31, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
I think McCain can blow it, especially after the DNC. There has been a lot of attention paid to McCain’s record of service (the McCain campaign’s latest national ad comes to mind), but how closely have we looked? I read a humorous blog this morning about McCain’s less-than-stellar academic performance. Are we looking at Dubya Redux?
Here’s the link: http://www.236.com/blog/w/alecsokolow/middiemccainmoremoronthan5544.php
By Truthifier
March 31, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this
With both Clinton and Obama in the position of not being able to win the nomination based on elected delegates, a fact this is often ignored by folks like Senator Leahy, why would Senator Clinton drop out of the race? Personally, I thik it is a subconscious view by some that a woman should take the backseat to a man. But I could be wrong. I’m a guy btw.
I’m also confused by all of this blather about the primary season going on too long. If you don’t want the voters in PA, NC, or IN to vote so late in the process, then why schedule their primaries in April and May? Would Senator Leahy be willing to say that when the DNC approved of those dates they were just humoring the people of those states by letting them think they cared about their votes? I doubt that Democratic voters in PA, NC and IN think the primaries are going on too long.
Watch the “pundits” talk about this. One week they are all for Hillary having a fair shot. The next week she’s toast. The next week, Al Gore needs to save the day. They just say whatever comes to mind (or out of their a*) at that particular moment. They, not the political parties, and most certainly not the voters eager to participate in the process, are the root of most of the nonsense around this election. If the so-called experts on tv would just shut the hell up for a few weeks, then perhaps we could have a great exercise in representative democracy without all of this needless noise.
By W
March 31, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
My loyal poor followers,
It has been brought to my attention that some of you expect me to get you the same deal that I got for my rich followers that invested their life’s earnings over at Bear Stearns. This was a special one-time-only deal that I felt the nation had to take care of in order to protect the interests of our fine Republican nation. Now the rest of you don’t stand to lose near as much as these other supporters did or else you just did not contribute enough to be considered a true supporter or else you don’t own enough land in Texas or else you are not married to the right Bush or something else. Now please remember that war costs money. Lot of money. You need to be thinking about your social security so mail in those war tax payments today. Remember, no payment is too large.
Thank You, Your Leader, W
By Coincidently Oxbow
March 31, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this
@@, so Wooten is referring to some obscure plot twist in Driving Miss Daisy?
Thank you for revealing to everyone else what your understanding of WOoten’s piece is today. I thought I was da only one. Now we all know about U.
Do you really look like sophia loren? I look a little like Bobby Cox now.
By Al
March 31, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
I’m the popular one. It’s just not fair. I AM the president. I knew I should have gone with the Republican party. If Bill had just kept it in his pants. I’m still going to change to the Republican party. McCain will let me be VP. I will have my revenge. I won’t let G.W. or H.W. or Hill or Bill or none of them get away with this. It’s just not fair. I AM the president.
By Dusty
March 31, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
Well, it looks like the liberal circus has rolled into town here with their tinsel trappings triggered.
You’re a bit early on the celebrations, BOYS, as Democrats couldn’t win this next race if they laid down and cried. Which they do every day! Let’s see.
Dan is gonna do the old “what’s wrong with McCain’s military record” bit.(NOTHING, Dan, but keep trying.)
McCain is just another Bush. (I hope so.) You and your little ones are still sleeping safe in bed at night, aren’t you, ingrates?
Dan, the great academic star, wants to point fingers at McCain’s West Point degree and Bush’s two degrees from Yale and Harvard. Oh yes, let’s sniff around and compare. Obama’s military education and service record? Zero! Hillary’s practiced law for HOW MANY years???? Very few! Keep at it, Dems, but you couldn’t talk your way out of a gunny sack much less impress anybody.
You poor ol’ cowards can’t even appreciate the fact the Afghanistan and Iraq have their own governments without dictators. Now there’s an accomplishment to celebrate.
Get your circus on the road in the right direction, lil’ donkeys, ‘cause the mighty elephants are coming to town.
By TAFKAH
March 31, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this
Anyone with a brain knows that MY candidate is the only one worth backing. Your candidate, on the other hand, is a c0cks^cking child molester who hates God and is secretly a muslim/jew hater/papist/woman/(white/black) patriarchist/senile f@rt who has no right to live.
Carry on.
By GayGreyGeek
March 31, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
Dusty, shouldn’t you be taking your W-shaped pom-poms down to your local enlistment office and signing up to be a batallion cheerleader? After all, it’s the right thing to do. OR DO YOU HATE AMERICA?
By Coincidently Oxbow
March 31, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
What, dusty, do you have amnesia? McCain set fire to an entire aircraft carrier during NAM. If he hadn’t been captured, we might have lost that war.
By Dusty
March 31, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this
GGG, 5:07
I tell you what. You tell me when you are ready to enlist and I will meet you at the Marine Recruiting Office. R U ready?
Coinbit Oxbrain,5:09
Are u out of your mind? R U saying that every military aircraft that crashes is an act of sabotage or some other intentional act?
You don’t have the brains or the facts to even bring up such an accident. Everytime you touch your keyboard it spells IGNORANCE for the whole world to see. Stop before we all collapse in laughter at such a fool.
By Steve
March 31, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this
Obama claim to be a “nice guy” but is playing good cop - bad cop with his vicious agent David Axelrod.
He’s using Christian and Muslim, and advertising Techniques: News, Better, Different, Best, to manipulate people, and peer pressure.
How about this. he’s threating and presuring Black Super Delegates. No surprise though. Look at the nasty comments Obama supporters make, then they say he’s not negative. Looks like he trained them well in the double-talk game.
African-American superdelegates said Thursday that they’ll stand up against threats, intimidation and “Uncle Tom” smears rather than switch their support from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton to Sen. Barack Obama.
“African-American superdelegates are being targeted, harassed and threatened,” said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Mo.), a superdelegate who has supported Clinton since August. Cleaver said black superdelegates are receiving “nasty letters, phone calls, threats they’ll get an opponent, being called an Uncle Tom.
“This is the politics of the 1950s,” he complained. “A lot of members are experiencing a lot of ugly stuff. They’re not going to talk about it, but it’s happening.”
After civil rights icon Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) switched his support from Clinton to Obama earlier this week, other black superdelegates have come under renewed pressure to do a similar about-face. A handful have bowed to the entreaties in recent weeks, including Georgia Rep. David Scott, but many say they are steadfast in their support for Clinton and resent strong-arm tactics to make them change.
Rep. Diane E. Watson (D-Calif.), a black lawmaker and Clinton backer, said the intense lobbying for Obama would not alter her vote.
“I’ve gotten threatening mail,” Watson said. “They say, ‘Your district went 61-29 Obama and you need to change.’ But I don’t intimidate. I can hold the ground. … I would lose my seat over my principles.”
Neither Watson nor Cleaver faces a strong reelection threat at this time. Cleaver’s Kansas City-area district narrowly supported Obama in Missouri’s Feb. 5 primary.
Black superdelegates are getting heavy pressure from such groups as ColorOfChange.org, a grass-roots organization whose members overwhelmingly support Obama.
“Some [Congressional Black Caucus] members are threatening to vote against their constituents, and perhaps against the will of the American people, by casting their superdelegate vote for Sen. Clinton,” the ColorOfChange.org website reads. “We can prevent this from happen by letting black leadership know we’re watching.”
But Watson said that she could not see switching her vote simply because Obama is black.
“I don’t support one type of person above all others. How would that message resonate with Koreatown?” she asked. Watson’s Central Los Angeles district is 35 percent Latino, 30 percent black and 12 percent Asian-American, including many Korean-Americans.
The Clinton campaign, for its part, has been working hard to keep its superdelegates on board. On a conference call with reporters Thursday afternoon, Clinton adviser Harold Ickes said he and campaign manager Maggie Williams had “spent a lot of time talking to our superdelegates over the past week,” and that they are “holding fast.”
The Clinton camp released a statement Thursday touting the defection of Obama supporter Veronica Escobar after polls in Texas, Escobar’s home state, showed Clinton leading among registered Hispanic voters by 62 to 21 percent.
Rep. Gregory W. Meeks (D-N.Y.), a Black Caucus member, said he is still “very strong” for Clinton even in the wake of Lewis’s turnaround. He was unmoved by discord in his Queens district, which backed Obama in the New York primary.
“Some people threw out flyers. That doesn’t faze me at all. If someone wants to run against me, that’s democracy,” he said. “Sen. Obama is a very inspirational person. People in the district are proud. I’m proud. You can’t not be proud being an African-American… But I have to do overall what’s in the best interests of my district.”
Cleaver questioned why white superdelegates such as Massachusetts Sens. Edward M. Kennedy and John F. Kerry weren’t being targeted to support Clinton after she carried their state.
“If white people were being harassed and threatened because they were not supporting a white candidate, we’d see headlines,” he said.
Cleaver said he did not believe the Obama campaign was behind the disturbing e-mails and phone calls he has received.
“I refuse to believe that Sen. Obama gave orders for something like this to happen. This is a contradiction of the new politics that Sen. Obama is running on,” he said. “My fear is with all of the nastiness, we’re going to have a whole lot of kissing and making up to do as a party.”
Editor’s note: This story has been updated to reflect the fact that Veronica Escobar is not a superdelegate. The story has also been updated to reflect the fact that while a majority of ColorOfChange.org’s members support Barack Obama, the organization has not endorsed him.
By BadOleBoys
March 31, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this
We need a poll, Jim. Something like:
Of the three democratic presidential candidates, which do you prefer?
By GayGreyGeek
March 31, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
Oxbow - You might not have noticed, but the DustBuster is an output-only device. The only inputs she’ll consider are those that she’s told to think by her heroes Fuhrer Bush and Goebbels Cheney. Goodness knows, there’s not a lick of independent thought or reasoning in or around the DustBuster…
By Andy
March 31, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
While there is as much truth as there is BS on this blog the sad part is the politicians still have what they desire: A divisive and split constituency.
Sure its easy for me to label people liberal or democrats and you to label me a conservative former Republican but if the powers to be keep the constituency blaming and hating the other of the half of the voters we won’t get anywhere.
As Republicans, Democrats and Independpents we need to quit hating our neighbor and unite to take the power back from the politicians. This country is going to hell in a financial and moral handbasket yet we blame the other half of the country who voted in the current party in power.
While the politicians go on TV to show how much they hate the other party how does all the financial and legal corruption occur if they really hate each other? Don’t they have to vote and receive a majority in order for them to spend Social Security and Medicare in 50-some TRILLION dollars of debt?
Once we grow a sack and unite as a nation we can take back our government but sadly at this point it’s going to take a depression to get most of these morons off their couch.
By GayGreyGeek
March 31, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
DustBuster - I’m not allowed to enlist, but you’re so incredibly gung-ho about your masters, you need to enlist so your cheerleading “skills” aren’t wasted. OR DO YOU HATE AMERICA?
By W
March 31, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this
My loyal followers,
It has been brought to my attention that my family plan is starting to take hold in Iraq. Enlisted, married couples (remember, don’t tell so I won’t have to ask) are now living together in their own Iraqi home. Now get those other family members enlisted so they can join you. And remember wars cost money. Lots of money. Keep those payments coming.
Thank You, Your Leader, W.
Does any one know if Dusty has someone in Iraq? She needs family to stay with when she enlists.
By h ryder
March 31, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
Currently, The only certain thing I want to occur in the process of naming a Democratic Party Presidential Nominee is that Mrs. Clinton be eliminated immediately with absolutely no possibility of weaseling her way on the ballot.
By Coincidently Oxbow
March 31, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
But GayGeek, Dusty looks like sophia loren, surely we can forgive some minor flaw in her synaptical gaps, no?
McCain didn’t crash, Dusty, he was sitting in his jet on the deck of the aircraft carrier when he somehow managed to fire a sidewinder missile into a line of refueling jets setting the entire carrier on fire. He has never apologized or explained, the man is a literal loose cannon, but I’m thinkin’ ‘bout you, as sophia loren, in a wet t-shirt contest, miller time, and boots that go all the way to paradise, a yard, picket fences and pickup trucks cause I’m country 4 U, oo oo.
I’m country 4 U, dusty.
By AmVet
March 31, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
That 5:25 is one of the funnier posts I have read lately!
Outstanding job, BadOne!
By Cass
March 31, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this
Obama is a master of Illusion but not sincere. His voting record does not match his speecehes and rhetoric. That’s a problem with credibility.
His Supporters are absolutely vicious. Demanding Hillary step down shows fear and cowardice, and underhanded strategy. None of that is positive, and seems downright un-American as is what’s taken place in FL and MI.
Wouldn’t you like to see if Jr. Senator Obama would create significant change as a Senator. After all, he did promise the people of Illinois he would serve his full term. He’s too impatient, and in consistent, that shows a lack of critical and good judgment in my mind.
This article about sums it up for me. He says everything people want to hear (which is not a new or different political trick):
The Obama Craze: Count Me Out by Matt Gonzalez‚ Feb. 27‚ 2008
Part of me shares the enthusiasm for Barack Obama. After all, how could someone calling themself a progressive not sense the importance of what it means to have an African-American so close to the presidency? But as his campaign has unfolded, and I heard that we are not red states or blue states for the 6th or 7th time, I realized I knew virtually nothing about him.
Like most, I know he gave a stirring speech at the Democratic National Convention in 2004. I know he defeated Alan Keyes in the Illinois Senate race; although it wasn’t much of a contest (Keyes was living in Maryland when he announced). Recently, I started looking into Obama’s voting record, and I’m afraid to say I’m not just uninspired: I’m downright fearful. Here’s why:
This is a candidate who says he’s going to usher in change; that he is a different kind of politician who has the skills to get things done. He reminds us again and again that he had the foresight to oppose the war in Iraq. And he seems to have a genuine interest in lifting up the poor.
But his record suggests that he is incapable of ushering in any kind of change I’d like to see. It is one of accommodation and concession to the very political powers that we need to rein in and oppose if we are to make truly lasting advances.
THE WAR IN IRAQ
Let’s start with his signature position against the Iraq war. Obama has sent mixed messages at best.
First, he opposed the war in Iraq while in the Illinois state legislature. Once he was running for US Senate though, when public opinion and support for the war was at its highest, he was quoted in the July 27, 2004 Chicago Tribune as saying, “There’s not that much difference between my position and George Bush’s position at this stage. The difference, in my mind, is who’s in a position to execute.” The Tribune went on to say that Obama, “now believes US forces must remain to stabilize the war-ravaged nation – a policy not dissimilar to the current approach of the Bush administration.”
Obama’s campaign says he was referring to the ongoing occupation and how best to stabilize the region. But why wouldn’t he have taken the opportunity to urge withdrawal if he truly opposed the war? Was he trying to signal to conservative voters that he would subjugate his anti-war position if elected to the US Senate and perhaps support a lengthy occupation? Well as it turns out, he’s done just that.
Since taking office in January 2005 he has voted to approve every war appropriation the Republicans have put forward, totaling over $300 billion. He also voted to confirm Condoleezza Rice as Secretary of State despite her complicity in the Bush Administration’s various false justifications for going to war in Iraq. Why would he vote to make one of the architects of “Operation Iraqi Liberation” the head of US foreign policy? Curiously, he lacked the courage of 13 of his colleagues who voted against her confirmation.
And though he often cites his background as a civil rights lawyer, Obama voted to reauthorize the Patriot Act in July 2005, easily the worse attack on civil liberties in the last half-century. It allows for wholesale eavesdropping on American citizens under the guise of anti-terrorism efforts.
And in March 2006, Obama went out of his way to travel to Connecticut to campaign for Senator Joseph Lieberman who faced a tough challenge by anti-war candidate Ned Lamont. At a Democratic Party dinner attended by Lamont, Obama called Lieberman “his mentor” and urged those in attendance to vote and give financial contributions to him. This is the same Lieberman who Alexander Cockburn called “Bush’s closest Democratic ally on the Iraq War.” Why would Obama have done that if he was truly against the war?
Recently, with anti-war sentiment on the rise, Obama declared he will get our combat troops out of Iraq in 2009. But Obama isn’t actually saying he wants to get all of our troops out of Iraq. At a September 2007 debate before the New Hampshire primary, moderated by Tim Russert, Obama refused to commit to getting our troops out of Iraq by January 2013 and, on the campaign trail, he has repeatedly stated his desire to add 100,000 combat troops to the military.
At the same event, Obama committed to keeping enough soldiers in Iraq to “carry out our counter-terrorism activities there” which includes “striking at al Qaeda in Iraq.” What he didn’t say is this continued warfare will require an estimated 60,000 troops to remain in Iraq according to a May 2006 report prepared by the Center for American Progress. Moreover, it appears he intends to “redeploy” the troops he takes out of the unpopular war in Iraq and send them to Afghanistan. So it appears that under Obama’s plan the US will remain heavily engaged in war.
This is hardly a position to get excited about.
CLASS ACTION REFORM:
In 2005, Obama joined Republicans in passing a law dubiously called the Class Action Fairness Act (CAFA) that would shut down state courts as a venue to hear many class action lawsuits. Long a desired objective of large corporations and President George Bush, Obama in effect voted to deny redress in many of the courts where these kinds of cases have the best chance of surviving corporate legal challenges. Instead, it forces them into the backlogged Republican-judge dominated federal courts.
By contrast, Senators Clinton, Edwards and Kerry joined 23 others to vote against CAFA, noting the “reform” was a thinly-veiled “special interest extravaganza” that favored banking, creditors and other corporate interests. David Sirota, the former spokesman for Democrats on the House Appropriations Committee, commented on CAFA in the June 26, 2006 issue of The Nation, “Opposed by most major civil rights and consumer watchdog groups, this Big Business-backed legislation was sold to the public as a way to stop “frivolous” lawsuits. But everyone in Washington knew the bill’s real objective was to protect corporate abusers.”
Nation contributor Dan Zegart noted further: “On its face, the class-action bill is mere procedural tinkering, transferring from state to federal court actions involving more than $5 million where any plaintiff is from a different state from the defendant company. But federal courts are much more hostile to class actions than their state counterparts; such cases tend to be rooted in the finer points of state law, in which federal judges are reluctant to dabble. And even if federal judges do take on these suits, with only 678 of them on the bench (compared with 9,200 state judges), already overburdened dockets will grow. Thus, the bill will make class actions – most of which involve discrimination, consumer fraud and wage-and-hour violations – all but impossible. One example: After forty lawsuits were filed against Wal-Mart for allegedly forcing employees to work “off the clock,” four state courts certified these suits as class actions. Not a single federal court did so, although the practice probably involves hundreds of thousands of employees nationwide.”
Why would a civil rights lawyer knowingly make it harder for working-class people to have their day in court, in effect shutting off avenues of redress?
CREDIT CARD INTEREST RATES:
Obama has a way of ducking hard votes or explaining away his bad votes by trying to blame poorly-written statutes. Case in point: an amendment he voted on as part of a recent bankruptcy bill before the US Senate would have capped credit card interest rates at 30 percent. Inexplicably, Obama voted against it, although it would have been the beginning of setting these predatory lending rates under federal control. Even Senator Hillary Clinton supported it.
Now Obama explains his vote by saying the amendment was poorly written or set the ceiling too high. His explanation isn’t credible as Obama offered no lower number as an alternative, and didn’t put forward his own amendment clarifying whatever language he found objectionable.
Why wouldn’t Obama have voted to create the first federal ceiling on predatory credit card interest rates, particularly as he calls himself a champion of the poor and middle classes? Perhaps he was signaling to the corporate establishment that they need not fear him. For all of his dynamic rhetoric about lifting up the masses, it seems Obama has little intention of doing anything concrete to reverse the cycle of poverty many struggle to overcome.
LIMITING NON-ECONOMIC DAMAGES:
These seemingly unusual votes wherein Obama aligns himself with Republican Party interests aren’t new. While in the Illinois Senate, Obama voted to limit the recovery that victims of medical malpractice could obtain through the courts. Capping non-economic damages in medical malpractice cases means a victim cannot fully recover for pain and suffering or for punitive damages. Moreover, it ignored that courts were already empowered to adjust awards when appropriate, and that the Illinois Supreme Court had previously ruled such limits on tort reform violated the state constitution.
In the US Senate, Obama continued interfering with patients’ full recovery for tortious conduct. He was a sponsor of the National Medical Error Disclosure and Compensation Act of 2005. The bill requires hospitals to disclose errors to patients and has a mechanism whereby disclosure, coupled with apologies, is rewarded by limiting patients’ economic recovery. Rather than simply mandating disclosure, Obama’s solution is to trade what should be mandated for something that should never be given away: namely, full recovery for the injured patient.
MINING LAW OF 1872:
In November 2007, Obama came out against a bill that would have reformed the notorious Mining Law of 1872. The current statute, signed into law by Ulysses Grant, allows mining companies to pay a nominal fee, as little as $2.50 an acre, to mine for hardrock minerals like gold, silver, and copper without paying royalties. Yearly profits for mining hardrock on public lands is estimated to be in excess of $1 billion a year according to Earthworks, a group that monitors the industry. Not surprisingly, the industry spends freely when it comes to lobbying: an estimated $60 million between 1998-2004 according to The Center on Public Integrity. And it appears to be paying off, yet again.
The Hardrock Mining and Reclamation Act of 2007 would have finally overhauled the law and allowed American taxpayers to reap part of the royalties (4 percent of gross revenue on existing mining operations and 8 percent on new ones). The bill provided a revenue source to cleanup abandoned hardrock mines, which is likely to cost taxpayers over $50 million, and addressed health and safety concerns in the 11 affected western states.
Later it came to light that one of Obama’s key advisors in Nevada is a Nevada-based lobbyist in the employ of various mining companies (CBS News “Obama’s Position On Mining Law Questioned. Democrat Shares Position with Mining Executives Who Employ Lobbyist Advising Him,” November 14, 2007).
REGULATING NUCLEAR INDUSTRY:
The New York Times reported that, while campaigning in Iowa in December 2007, Obama boasted that he had passed a bill requiring nuclear plants to promptly report radioactive leaks. This came after residents of his home state of Illinois complained they were not told of leaks that occurred at a nuclear plant operated by Exelon Corporation.
The truth, however, was that Obama allowed the bill to be amended in Committee by Senate Republicans, replacing language mandating reporting with verbiage that merely offered guidance to regulators on how to address unreported leaks. The story noted that even this version of Obama’s bill failed to pass the Senate, so it was unclear why Obama was claiming to have passed the legislation. The February 3, 2008 The New York Times article titled “Nuclear Leaks and Response Tested Obama in Senate” by Mike McIntire also noted the opinion of one of Obama’s constituents, which was hardly enthusiastic about Obama’s legislative efforts:
“Senator Obama’s staff was sending us copies of the bill to review, and we could see it weakening with each successive draft,” said Joe Cosgrove, a park district director in Will County, Ill., where low-level radioactive runoff had turned up in groundwater. “The teeth were just taken out of it.”
As it turns out, the New York Times story noted: “Since 2003, executives and employees of Exelon, which is based in Illinois, have contributed at least $227,000 to Mr. Obama’s campaigns for the United States Senate and for president. Two top Exelon officials, Frank M. Clark, executive vice president, and John W. Rogers Jr., a director, are among his largest fund-raisers.”
ENERGY POLICY:
On energy policy, it turns out Obama is a big supporter of corn-based ethanol which is well known for being an energy-intensive crop to grow. It is estimated that seven barrels of oil are required to produce eight barrels of corn ethanol, according to research by the Cato Institute. Ethanol’s impact on climate change is nominal and isn’t “green” according to Alisa Gravitz, Co-op America executive director. “It simply isn’t a major improvement over gasoline when it comes to reducing our greenhouse gas emissions.” A 2006 University of Minnesota study by Jason Hill and David Tilman, and an earlier study published in BioScience in 2005, concur. (There’s even concern that a reliance on corn-based ethanol would lead to higher food prices.)
So why would Obama be touting this as a solution to our oil dependency? Could it have something to do with the fact that the first presidential primary is located in Iowa, corn capitol of the country? In legislative terms this means Obama voted in favor of $8 billion worth of corn subsidies in 2006 alone, when most of that money should have been committed to alternative energy sources such as solar, tidal and wind.
SINGLE-PAYER HEALTH CARE:
Obama opposed single-payer bill HR676, sponsored by Congressmen Dennis Kucinich and John Conyers in 2006, although at least 75 members of Congress supported it. Single-payer works by trying to diminish the administrative costs that comprise somewhere around one-third of every health care dollar spent, by eliminating the duplicative nature of these services. The expected $300 billion in annual savings such a system would produce would go directly to cover the uninsured and expand coverage to those who already have insurance, according to Dr. Stephanie Woolhandler, an Associate Professor of Medicine at Harvard Medical School and co-founder of Physicians for a National Health Program.
Obama’s own plan has been widely criticized for leaving health care industry administrative costs in place and for allowing millions of people to remain uninsured. “Sicko” filmmaker Michael Moore ridiculed it saying, “Obama wants the insurance companies to help us develop a new health care plan-the same companies who have created the mess in the first place.”
NORTH AMERICAN FREE TRADE AGREEMENT:
Regarding the North American Free Trade Agreement, Obama recently boasted, “I don’t think NAFTA has been good for Americans, and I never have.” Yet, Calvin Woodward reviewed Obama’s record on NAFTA in a February 26, 2008 Associated Press article and found that comment to be misleading: “In his 2004 Senate campaign, Obama said the US should pursue more deals such as NAFTA, and argued more broadly that his opponent’s call for tariffs would spark a trade war. AP reported then that the Illinois senator had spoken of enormous benefits having accrued to his state from NAFTA, while adding that he also called for more aggressive trade protections for US workers.”
Putting aside campaign rhetoric, when actually given an opportunity to protect workers from unfair trade agreements, Obama cast the deciding vote against an amendment to a September 2005 Commerce Appropriations Bill, proposed by North Dakota Senator Byron Dorgan, that would have prohibited US trade negotiators from weakening US laws that provide safeguards from unfair foreign trade practices. The bill would have been a vital tool to combat the outsourcing of jobs to foreign workers and would have ended a common corporate practice known as “pole-vaulting” over regulations, which allows companies doing foreign business to avoid “right to organize,” “minimum wage,” and other worker protections.
SOME FINAL EXAMPLES:
On March 2, 2007 Obama gave a speech at AIPAC, America’s pro-Israeli government lobby, wherein he disavowed his previous support for the plight of the Palestinians. In what appears to be a troubling pattern, Obama told his audience what they wanted to hear. He recounted a one-sided history of the region and called for continued military support for Israel, rather than taking the opportunity to promote the various peace movements in and outside of Israel.
Why should we believe Obama has courage to bring about change? He wouldn’t have his picture taken with San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom when visiting San Francisco for a fundraiser in his honor because Obama was scared voters might think he supports gay marriage (Newsom acknowledged this to Reuters on January 26, 2007 and former Mayor Willie Brown admitted to the San Francisco Chronicle on February 5, 2008 that Obama told him he wanted to avoid Newsom for that reason.)
Obama acknowledges the disproportionate impact the death penalty has on blacks, but still supports it, while other politicians are fighting to stop it. (On December 17, 2007 New Jersey Governor Jon Corzine signed a bill banning the death penalty after it was passed by the New Jersey Assembly.)
On September 29, 2006, Obama joined Republicans in voting to build 700 miles of double fencing on the Mexican border (The Secure Fence Act of 2006), abandoning 19 of his colleagues who had the courage to oppose it. But now that he’s campaigning in Texas and eager to win over Mexican-American voters, he says he’d employ a different border solution.
It is shocking how frequently and consistently Obama is willing to subjugate good decision making for his personal and political benefit.
Obama aggressively opposed initiating impeachment proceedings against the president (“Obama: Impeachment is not acceptable,” USA Today, June 28, 2007) and he wouldn’t even support Wisconsin Senator Russ Feingold’s effort to censure the Bush administration for illegally wiretapping American citizens in violation of the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. In Feingold’s words “I’m amazed at Democrats … cowering with this president’s number’s so low.” Once again, it’s troubling that Obama would take these positions and miss the opportunity to document the abuses of the Bush regime.
CONCLUSION:
Once I started looking at the votes Obama actually cast, I began to hear his rhetoric differently. The principal conclusion I draw about “change” and Barack Obama is that Obama needs to change his voting habits and stop pandering to win votes. If he does this he might someday make a decent candidate who could earn my support. For now Obama has fallen into a dangerous pattern of capitulation that he cannot reconcile with his growing popularity as an agent of change.
I remain impressed by the enthusiasm generated by Obama’s style and skill as an orator. But I remain more loyal to my values, and I’m glad to say that I want no part in the Obama craze sweeping our country.
Matt Gonzalez is a former president of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors.
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