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Games-playing gets in the way of lawmaking
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
They’re doing it again.
They are doing it again.
Get ‘em out of town — and if need be out of office.
Republicans in Atlanta are behaving just like Democrats in Congress — playing silly, pointless games in an effort to gain political advantage. Congress, for example, repeatedly sends President Bush legislation to hugely expand the federal arm of Georgia’s PeachCare program, knowing he’ll veto it. So they extend it a few months and, when it’s deemed most advantageous to Democrats, they pass it again.
It’s a game, a silly, pointless game that undermines public confidence in the institution and in the capacity of the two parties to govern on even a rudimentary level.
The Georgia General Assembly has four legislative days left. By Friday, it’ll all be over.
Within the week, we’ll know. This session will either have defined the difference it makes that Republicans are in power. Or it will be a vivid reminder of the pettiness that the public so despises about Congress. A week before the end, either outcome is possible.
Major issues remain unresolved — and in danger of meltdown. Meaningful tax cuts. Education reform. Efforts to ease Georgia’s archaic system of regulating competition in the health care industry. An invitation to vote yourself a regional transportation tax.
Georgia has a serious leadership problem. The relationship between Gov. Sonny Perdue and House Speaker Glenn Richardson seems now unlikely to improve until one or both leave office.
Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle doesn’t help. He has the ability ordinarily seen only in parents and spouses to yank Richardson’s chain to provoke an immediate reaction — and it’s exceedingly difficult to discern the intended purpose beyond familial goading. It is so pointless or to such small points that it’s impossible to imagine it can be satisfying, either personally or politically.
There’s inherent tension between the House, Senate and executive branch. That’s healthy, especially in a one-party state. But the institutional tension that arises from the desirable effort to keep the other from gaining extra-constitutional advantage is only rarely the primary issue. The governor’s style contributes to the dysfunction. It is to encourage the legislative branch to “work its will” until he decides — as with tax relief — that it’s gone too far. By then, though, it’s often too late.
Egos are invested. Either the House or Senate has taken ownership of a particular approach. The House wants to essentially end the “birthday tax” on cars, trucks and motorcycles, for example, while the Senate wants to cut income tax rates by 10 percent over five years. The governor wants token relief, fearing that revenue growth will be insufficient to meet the state’s needs as he sees them.
It’s a wonderful debate — but it’s not happening in a policy sense. And can’t. Too little time. Too many oversize egos.
They could blow this. They could leave town next week having done nothing meaningful. On taxes, they’d ideally grant significant relief and also cap state spending, as the House proposed for city and county governments.
In the next week, this could still emerge as an enormously productive session — especially on education. Four bills, if approved, would be a milestone achievement in the direction of choice for parents and for local systems. Those are House Bill 1209 from the governor, HB 1133 from David Casas (R-Lilburn), HB 881 from Jan Jones (R-Alpharetta) and Senate Bill 458 from Eric Johnson (R-Savannah).
Opening the health care industry, however slightly, to competition will be a major achievement, too. And incentives to promote high-deductible insurance policies coupled with health savings accounts is an important breakthrough. Neither is yet passed.
The encouraging thing for conservatives is that in many ways the new guys are charting a different — a desirably different — course.
But the insufferable egos and pointless games are maddening. Get over it. Do things that matter.
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By AJC Management
March 29, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this
{{{{Chelsea Says Hillary Would Make ‘Better’ President Than Father}}}}
I know “Dad” was a pretty sorry president and “Mommy” hasn’t had a chance to show what an awful, God forsaken failure she would be, but does anyone else think that maybe Junior shouldn’t have gone there?
The dimwit family indeed.
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Oh, what courage:
{{{{Muslims denounce Dutch film on Islam-Urinal}}}}
As many things as there are to choose from if you were looking for something to “denounce,” for instance the stoning of rape victims, suicide bombings and the multitude of daily Islamic atrocities to pick from, does it not surprise anyone else that the cowards at the Atlanta Urinal Constitution would take on some unarmed film maker?
What a selfless act of bravery, why, you pinkos should give yourselves a medal or something.
And what does it say of these sniveling little gutless wonders liberals that they ignore acts of total depravity committed by Islam, day after day after day, only speaking out against them when forced to, but they so readily take offense with someone simply exercising free speech?
Think about it for a minute, which side are these mofos on?
Would they have sided up with Hitler too?
My guess is your damn right they would have, he hated America too and, as a bonus, killed Jews by the millions, what was there with Adolf for a POS liberal not to like?
Problem is, Roosevelt would have hung them by their scrawny pinko necks until they were dead.
So they had to squelch their mindless hate of their own country and stay hidden up in their wormy little ratholes.
Where they belong.
To get a better sense of how deeply disgusting these POS at the Urinal are, look at this little piece from yesterday:
{{{{DEKALB SPECIAL GRAND JURY: Police exonerated in 11 of 12 killings-Urinal}}}}
This blaring front page headline was accompanied by a picture of grieving family members, taking advantage of their genuine sorrow over the loss of a loved one to paint the larger anti American picture of the police brutalizing innocent citizens.
It was nothing but pure hate propaganda against the same brave men who lay it all on the line, every day of their lives, to make sure that the innocent law abiding people of Dekalb live safe lives, protected from the killers and rapists among us.
And who could object to the protection afforded us by these courageous men, other than the killers and the rapists?
How many normal people do you know that are happy to live in a land where the strong freely prey on the weak?
You see what I mean, which side are these lowlife liberals at the AJC on?
Can no one else see the obvious?
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After having wiped al Qaeda from the face of Iraq and before the American drawdown that will be the ultimate test for the Iraqi army, not only to protect the people of Iraq but to also show that they are not allied to any extremist group, does anyone one else really believe that this wasn’t planned in advance:
{{{{Iraq’s prime minister vowed Thursday to fight “until the end” against Shiite militias in Basra >>>>despite protests by tens of thousands of followers of a radical cleric in Baghdad<<<< and deadly clashes in the capital and the oil-rich south.-Urinal}}}}
You know what is really funny about this, how many times have you heard the worm ridden liberals say that the Mahdi army was just “biding it’s time” before the Americans left?
Turns out, it was the Americans who were “biding their time,” focusing it’s might on al Qaeda while the Iraqi army grew stronger by the day.
Now it’s time to clean Mookie’s and Iran’s as-s out.
And listen to the gutless wonder AJC libs whine on behalf of the throat cutting religious extremists:
despite protests by tens of thousands of followers of a radical cleric in Baghdad<<<<
Yeah, and “despite” your protests too.
Too bad, ain’t it?
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{{{{But Robinson doesn’t think Atlanta will go back to the dark nights of yesteryear, not even to reduce the city’s carbon footprint. “There’s all kinds of ways to save energy in buildings” without turning off exterior lights, he said. The lit skyline “gives people an image of Atlanta that’s growing and a place of opportunity. … It’s inspiring.”-Urinal}}}}
Then why bother?
Does it make the guilty conscience dimwit feel good about itself?:
{{{{{Atlanta’s organizing team hopes to reduce the city’s power consumption by 5 percent compared to the same time on another Saturday night, Cronan said.-Urinal}}}}
Ooohh boy, 5 whole percent.
No, these idiotic environmental terrorists will hop in the gas guzzler, drive into the city, ooo and awe at the darkness and then drive back to their McMansions where guarantee no one will lower their vaulted cathedral ceilings, unplug their industrial sized furnaces nor will they turn off their 65 inch TV’s.
And I doubt seriously if the Urinal, in a fit of environmental guilt, will stop ripping trees from the ground, putting those trees on diesel fuel spewing trucks, taking them to the pollution discharging energy wasting pulp mills, transporting the bulk paper across the highway, knock down their huge building where their POS reporter lurk and the printing presses suck vast amounts of electricity, load their anti American rag into a thousand gas guzzling cars and trucks and drive all around Atlanta, supporting foreign oil suppliers.
It may soothe the feelings of and be fun for the environmental terrorists to go on huge crying jags about Capitalism but, for some odd reason, we all still participate in it.
The big difference being that the normal well adjusted among us don’t hate ourselves for it.
Like you sicko liberals do.
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{{{{Atlanta-area real estate professionals say home sales have increased in recent weeks.}}}}
{{{{“Everyone’s reporting their traffic is up and they are writing contracts,” said Eugene James, director of the Atlanta region for Metrostudy, which does quarterly surveys of housing construction and closings.-Urinal}}}}
What do you know, it looks like the free market is rebounding quite nicely.
I guess now the demokrat presidential kandidates can stop broadcasting their idiot ideas for destroying the mortgage industry.
By The BlogFather
March 29, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this
New Rule: At least glance at Wooten’s article B4 U comment.
By The BlogFather
March 29, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this
New Rule: At least glance at Wooten’s article B4 U comment.
By The BlogFather
March 29, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this
New Rule: At least glance at Wooten’s article B4 U comment.
By The BlogFather
March 29, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this
The Assembly: Asylum of unassembled astringents to assignation.
By MissionImp
March 29, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
Good Morning Jim,
Your mission which you should choose to accept is to quit hoping for Incumbent Georgia Republican Politicians to be something they are not. They are petty. They are arrogant. They are not statesmen. They are not thoughtful, caring,…Do the right thing Jim, vote against them. Do it for your own good. Do it for the good of your family. Do it for the good of the state, county, city…Do it.
By Dusty
March 29, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this
Well, it looks like Jim Wooten is giving our Georgia legislature a nice push(kick) to get them going. Sounds like they need one. If they end up like our USA Congress, we are in big trouble. Nothing will be done. Go for it, Jim!! Keep us posted.
I wasn’t here yesterday. (Somebody else posted using my ID. Some hildren will be childish even when they are adults.) My computer was not even working until last night. Oh well!!
AJC Management,
AJC is a liberal newspaper and they are giving Atlanta what liberals want. The rest of us stopped our subscriptions long ago. Your comments are understandable.
BlogFather,(Hi PoFo!)
You bonehead blogger who bothers bonus bloggers with bleep bleep bleep boners blaming a basic beneficial bright blogger for breathing while U R boring. Beat it!!
By AJC Management
March 29, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
Cough. Cough. Hack. Hack. It sure is Dusty in here.
By Glenn
March 29, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
A container ship’s worth of freight to unpack, this column. Get that this is not a simile, Jim, but epistemology: it is a game, and most of the players are only dimly aware of that fact. You’re one of them.
I respect that it took guts for you to run this piece. May I presume to recommend another? Would you consider a column of five sketches of legislators you’ve known who were not players of the game?
By Dusty
March 29, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
Missionimp,@8:54
Ah, first liberal post of the day. Uh huh…vote for Georgia Democrats and make everything WORSE.
By Mid-South Philosopher
March 29, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Jim.
An excellent column this morning, and, alas, an even more excellent appraisal of the the character (or lack of it) of the Georgia General Assembly!
As (I hope) a knowledgable observer of government for over a half-century, I marvel at how quickly good people become addicted to power and the never-ending rat-wheel of seeking re-election. In some cases, (Pedue and Richardson being prime examples)testosterone seems to take over and the “by g_d, you’re not going to out-do or up-stage me!” attitudes emerge.
Our republican form of government is the best ever devised by man, but, still the odor of envy, greed, avarice, and bullying permeates it.
The solution, in lieu of term limitations, is to NOT RE-ELECT ANYONE!
But, we, the vast nose-picking herd, will continue to send the political addicts back to Gold Dome time after time and bit*ch about their imcompetence.
We have no one to blame but ourselves.
By @@
March 29, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
What a waste of legislative power Jim.
Not surprising though when “egos pop-up”.
Here’s hoping they’ll get smart before they’re forced to eat “toasted waffles”.
By Glenn
March 29, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
Do not be adorable, @@, this is serious business, this is.
By AmVet
March 29, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Good Saturday morning.
It is indeed sad how the legislature here has been so eerily reminiscent of the Republican Revolution that took place some years ago in the US Congress.
Swept into power on a hurricane of hype and frenzy. Seemingly endless promises of change and a “new” direction.
But alas….
It was just a bitter joke foisted on a gullible “faithful” electorate, as the “results” were, shall I say in an effort to be gracious, not very impressive.
And I agree Mr. Wooten, the LtGov epitomizes the angry white male Republican (read mean little pr!ck) we have seen so many times that is more interested in being “right” than in enacting sound legislation or in the interests of the people he is supposedly serving.
And given the sad history of the GOP’s uber-angry Agnews, Gingrichs, Cheneys and Barrs, anyone who voted for him and over looked that obvious character flaw deserves what they have gotten.
And similar to our current commander-in-chief, our governor has come to be the poster boy for empty rhetoric and personal power gone amok.
So the more things change, whether in Atlanta or in Washington, the more they stay the same. Or amazingly with the non-conservative conservatives at the helm, get even worse.
Only the level of indignant self-righteousness has changed…
By Dusty
March 29, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
Dear Glenn,9:20
Your ship of uncertain similies runs into the mist of musty meanderings. Epistemology is your gamey crossword to confound the reader into eternal unction of spirit resembling somnolence. Try the profound proficiency and lucidity of Thomas Henry Huxley. You’ll like it.
See you later on blog time. Must get ready for family Birthday Picnic Party. Have fun!
By MissionImp
March 29, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
Jim,
I can see you are in need of multiple missions today. So, please accept this next one just for fun. Please try to explain to the one who posted as Dusty that a call to oust the Incumbent Georgia Republican Politicians is not a sign of a liberal. In fact, it is a sign of one who can see these particular politicians for what they really are. Good luck, Jim. You will need it.
As usual, Dusty’s brain was confirmed to be mush once it attempted communication. So, there is no need for it to attempt to self-destruct yet again.
By Dusty
March 29, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
Missionimp,@9:50
Are you married to Amvet?
By The BlogFather
March 29, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
REWRITING WOOTEN:
Insufferable, invested and oversized egos of archaic, rudimentary pettiness are playing silly, silly, and pointless, pointless, pointless games in the assembly! Inherent tensions of yanked chains and familial goading are maddening. Methods hugely deemed desireably different are needed.
By TW
March 29, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
Glenn - agree in full about the media. In much the same way that the NFL seeks parity for ratings sake, the ‘news media’ needs a close race to keep folks tuned in, and will wrap themselves in this motive at all costs. And when there is a lull, they need their Terrell Owns factor, so they dig up a McCain lobbyist he used to run with and make her look like his peice on the side, or they dig up a Rev Wright. Monica Lewinsky reminded them of this type of draw. Sadly, when it all comes down to it, the AMerican people are much more People Magazine than they will ever be news hawkish…too ‘boring’, all that reading, all that thinking…
And it’s rampant - from Anderson Cooper to Lou Dobbs to Bill O’Reilly back to Wolf Blitzer (see his debate performances? really tips his hand) back to Hannitty and Rush etc. etc. And we sit here as the ship is sinking, their presence in our life tantamount to crack for the addict, just a slower circle about the drain.
I have found the only way is to listen to the individuals themselves, and then judge the concrete evidence on what they’ve done.
Thus far, the only stabs at remedying the God of mammon’s clutch on the media have come from the poles - tree huggers and swift boaters.
Sadly, and perhaps ignorantly, I believe we are at our best when we are truly the United States. This 51% percent business is for the birds…and the media.
By The BlogFather
March 29, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
Speak 4 yourself, midsouth. (and spreadout).
By AmVet
March 29, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
Dusty, grow up.
Isn’t it enough that you are derided and laughed at, for your “quaint” ideas, on three (!!!) of this newspaper’s blogs?
By Glenn
March 29, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
Dusty! Do you not realize how Jim exposes himself today as a PSEUDO-CONSERVATIVE? He is calling a REPUBLICAN governor and REPUBLICAN lieutenant governor and REPUBLICAN legislative leaders nothing more than GAME PLAYERS!
How quickly you pretend to forget the column you have just read, Dusty. Are you trying to FOOL US into believing that this columnist, from the newspaper you yourself acknowledge as “liberal”, did not call our fine Republican Lt. Governor petty and “pointless”?
By saying that the AJC is “giving Atlanta what liberals want”, you are actually ceding Atlanta to the Democrats. Methinks you are suspiciously quick to surrender Atlanta without a fight. Whose side are you on, Dusty?
As for myself, I will fight in the hemic trenches of Peachtree Creek if need be. SOME of us will NEVER surrender Atlanta!
By The BlogFather
March 29, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
Excellent points, TW. You may be right.
WOnderful insights from glenn, as usual.
Dusty, funny, funny aliteration. Bravo. By george I think she’s got it!
By AJC Management
March 29, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this
{{{{By Dusty March 29, 2008 9:14 AM AJC Management, AJC is a liberal newspaper and they are giving Atlanta what liberals want. The rest of us stopped our subscriptions long ago. Your comments are understandable.}}}}
Dusty: I think it runs a little bit deeper than that.
The AJC is purposefully creating divisions in our society, alienating whole segments of people and turning them into victims and grievance mongers.
Does anyone else really believe that the police are the enemy, other then the criminals among us, who legitimately have fear or disdain of them?
Especially a police force made up of blacks and whites, led by blacks, that has made the streets of Dekalb relatively safe for law abiding citizens?
I understand oversight and watch dog and all that, but this wholesale campaign on behalf of criminals and law breakers, who by the very nature of our constitution have lost their rights to participate unhindered in free society, is disturbing and creates animosity among people who should be working together to make this country a better place to live.
Sending everybody to their own corner, constantly creating angst and grievances only further divides us, and for what good reason?
So they can sensationalize the mundane and sell more papers?
Do they truly believe that this is an us against them world that we live in?
And I’m not talking about petty political differences, I’m talking about the genuine fear and hate that pitting these groups against each other produces.
Is there any real point to it?
By BadOleBoys
March 29, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
I’ll Grant you one point, Glenn, there’s no need to make toast of all of Atlanta. There are probably no more than a handful that really need to go down in flames. Let’s see, start with Cagle, Richardson, and Perdue. The rest can possibly be saved with a little training.
By bombguy
March 29, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
“Wow, you’re the first person actually that’s ever asked me that question, in the, maybe 70 college campuses that I’ve been to,” [Chelsea} Clinton bitterly said at Butler University. “And I don’t think that’s any of your business.” “The college student who got a stinging brushback from Chelsea Clinton when he asked about the Monica Lewinsky scandal said Wednesday he’s a Clinton supporter who was trying to get her to show ‘what makes Hillary so strong.’
I think a better observation would have been, “I’m just trying to confirm that the apple truly doesn’t fall far from the tree. She is a snappy witch just like her mother. I hope she makes a bitter fool all the way to the end of the campaign before she loses to Oama.”
here’s">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/hillarys_list_of_lies.html">here’s a delicious list of Hillary Clinton lies. Or are they just ‘misspoken’ words? Dick Morris would know. He only spent eight years with the Clintons as their campaign adviser. Don’t look for the media to do the dirty work on Hillary. They absolutely cower in fear of her.
By Captain Freedom
March 29, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
A Captain Kudo to Wooten for today’s incomparable and inerrant prognostication. The Wise One opines that we will know for sure — and real soon now — whether the Republicans are different from or the same as the Democrats who preceded them. Again, Wootie proves why he is among the leading lights of the Punditocracy. The man simply is incapable of being incorrect.
THE Captain further wishes to remark on the latest whines of the Uppity Peoples. As if the caterwauling of Rev Wright and his acolyte were not enough, now we have the once-admirable Condoleeza Rice p!s$ing and moaning about how “slavery” has made it harder for darkies to succeed in our nation. Clearly, this formerly-esteemed ebony harpie is making a play for the Democrat veep slot, and has turned on her GOP Masters with a vehemence last seen in rabid Gibbons in the wild.
Clearly, this woman forgets who wields the knife that butters her well buttered bread. THE Captain would present all the standard intellectual rebuttals to this ungrateful product of White Christian Largesse, but instead directs interested parties to the Free Republic chat rooms, where the sober arguments are laced with piquant humor. The face of Our Party, amplified in a way that THE Captain is incapable.
By The BlogFather
March 29, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
Wooten today is scolding an average assembly in an average year. His bipartisan slap is further evidence that wooten reresents the vestiges of conservatism which condemns the GOP’s shift to the middle, which cant settle 4 McCain, and which still believes it’s possible to save THAT america, yes, that america rev. wright condemned so ferociously on the pulpit.
By bombguy
March 29, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Bad link on Hillary lies. Here is is, again.
By AmVet
March 29, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
McCain Also an ‘Anti-Bush’
Earlier this week, McCain embraced a more collaborative foreign policy approach with democratic allies, drawing a contrast with Bush’s go-it-alone style of the last eight years.
Upcoming is a speech on combating climate change; McCain breaks from Bush on the issue that attracts voters from across the political spectrum.
http://newsmax.com/insidecover/McCainAlsoanAntiBush/2008/03/29/84009.html
Good gawd ya’ll!
The man believes in evolution AND man-induced global warming!
And in spite of his required political savvy at cozying up to the “agents of intolerance”, I can’t imagine him ever wanting to use those nut jobs and theocratic wannabes in any meaningful way in his administration.
How could any self-respecting non-conservative conservative vote for this RINO??? Especially knowing that Karl Rove and his gang of “architects” must detest the man?
(And I am loving every minute of it.)
Perhaps, there is yet some small hope for the Republican Party…
By Glenn
March 29, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
I concur with your analysis, TW. I don’t get the part about advocating for a supermajoritarian consensus, but it’s clear enough that you have grown tired of divided government. (Incidentally, some states abhor it, others demand it.) At least one doesn’t hear yet another iteration of the 1968 mantra about the two parties being one party, blah, blah, blah. Instead we have three candidates as one giant opportunist. A sour twist.
You’re right about the Mass Man aspect—-your People mag. reference—-but Lippman doesn’t play in the blogosphere. I had in mind a sweepstakes of blogospheric proportions to see who could produce the best example of the coroner’s art on the MSM in light of its nonfeasance in this election cycle. Spring Practice begins immediately, wherever you are virtually.
And since we’re here in Jim’s sphere, notice the game he’s playing. Warning to legislature: do my bidding or I will call for you to be run out of town. Do some of my bidding and I will push for AJC legitimation of your limited success, thereby validating your “approaches” as somehow meaningful.
It all beats facing facts, doesn’t it? Anyone who’s worked for politicians knows that their brains are reptilian. You can’t scare them with policy findings of any kind. Snakes don’t do policy. You have to motivate them with [the promise of] feedings of power—-positive reinforcement—-or else with “the prospect of imminent death”. Snakes understand food. They get death. Pretending, as Jim does, that they can read? How very…Claude Rains.
“But then you knew I was a snake when you picked me up.” Was it Bill Clinton said that?
By The BlogFather
March 29, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
A gift for music lovers: Camille Saint Saens wrote a piece called the Havanaise.
Recommended
Dont worry, it’s short.
By MomCat
March 29, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
By Dusty March 29, 2008 9:14 AM Georgia legislature a nice push(kick) to get them going. Sounds like they need one. If they end up like our USA Congress, we are in big trouble.
We’re already in BIG TROUBLE, thanks to the Idiot In Chief and Cheney et.al. Thanks idiots! Anyhoo, it’s your little splits and talley wagers that will suffer along with everyone else this time around.
By The BlogFather
March 29, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
It better not rain today. Baseball.
By jbmlaw
March 29, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. I have mixed feelings about legislative paralysis. While it is desirable conceptually, it seems in practice that our overlords still manage to accomplish the undesirable while leaving the potentially useful undone. Jim correctly identifies the problem as the “one-party” government.
Unfortunately, so long as conservatives remain unwelcome among democrats, Georgia will remain a one-party state. Voters appreciate conservatism, but the nature of conservatism is that true conservatives are individually unwilling to fight into a role of dominance - it’s a morality thing - thus the faux-conservatives wind up running the system.
By BadOleBoys
March 29, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
Some of those on the Clayton County school board have finally gotten the message and are leaving. They may even understand that it’s for the good of the children. If only more of our Incumbent Georgia Republican Politicians could get the message. It’s for the good of the taxpaying citizens. If you need to feel the power, stick a metallic object in a light socket and enjoy the ride. By the way, if you do, please post a video of it on youtube.
By Glenn
March 29, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
“…the nature of conservatism is that true conservatives are individually unwilling to fight into a role of dominance - it’s a morality thing - thus the faux-conservatives wind up running the system.”
jbm, good morning. Nice revelation there. It’s cool, how this blog is set up. Sometimes we get to say the things even Jim can’t say. Which is at least more feasible, for all of us save Andy, than saying all the things the DNC-AJC won’t say.
Here’s another unsayable thing: you and AmVet agree on that diagnosis.
Incidentally, I’ve just finished an overlong project, and have begun the other.
By getalife
March 29, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
Nice rant Jim.
“Feingold to increasingly mean-spirited Obama cultists: ‘Cool it’
The fight for the Democratic nomination for president has gotten personal in recent days, but U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold is urging calm.”
Russ is telling Obama supporters to get ready to lose. Alienating millions of voters yet to vote was incredibly stupid and backfired. This race has drawn millions of new voters.
That is a great thing for the general so Clinton will be President.
God bless America!
By jbmlaw
March 29, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Thanks, Glenn @ 11:28. I will also credit our friend AmVet’s analysis, and indeed I am obliged to do so as I fussed at him for irrelevance a couple of days ago. Unrelated, I now see the light at the end of my tunnel, so I anticipate starting work - maybe Tuesday - on the procedural aspects of our joint project.
By jbmlaw
March 29, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
One more bon mot, to AJC Management @ 8:04, great rant and analysis.
By Glenn
March 29, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
BadOleBoys, whatsay we run @@ for school board? I’ve done a couple of school board races, and they’re comparatively easy. And we probably couldn’t find a better candidate. It’s a legitimate way for a non-resident who cares about Clayton to get involved. Let’s set up a website, and let her run with it. Eh?
By The BlogFather
March 29, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
Conservatism: God, Guns, and Gays.
By The BlogFather
March 29, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
Corn based biofuel got passed by our national legislature. If only they were as unproductive as our ga assembly. Now corn prices have pushed up inflation. Another unexpected hit when combined with oil, is slowing our growth.
Give me do-nothing assemblies any day over the well intentioned time bombs that most legislation enacts.
And just what conservative conspiracy are jbmlaw and glenn up to?
By Bootsie Amestoy
March 29, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
Liberalism: Gall, Gaul and Gull.
By George Washington
March 29, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Listen woodenhead, we already have too many mindless laws on the books, our prisons are full of people who broke one or more of the IDIOT laws, so what we need are fewer laws. Hence I propose a Georgia Consitution Amendment: The state legislature may pass only one law per year, and only if they first repeal three existing laws.
By AmVet
March 29, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
This article goes to the very heart of today’s topic - free market forces given unfettered reign to do as they will, along with the near total unaccountability and sometimes disastrous consequences vs. governmental “oversight” and the inherent and sometimes bungling bureaucratic risks therin.
But generally, either way, the middle class usually foots the bill…
Washington, Wall St. Tangle on Oversight
NEW YORK — One of the casualties of the ongoing credit crisis is a long-held notion on Wall Street - that the investment banking community can take care of its own problems.
Everyone from Barack Obama to the Bush administration is floating ideas about how to strengthen oversight of financial institutions after decades of deregulation. And the government is expected to weigh in Monday with a plan to overhaul regulation of entire financial services industry, from banks and securities firms to mortgage brokers and insurance companies.
http://newsmax.com/money/Washingtonwallstreet/2008/03/29/84017.html
By W
March 29, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this
thump, thump, thump. Is this thing turned off? Yes Good. Those dang idiots down in Georgia will believe anything won’t they. I mean to tell you. As long as you say something like family values or throw in a prayer, those suckers go for it hook line and sinker. thump, thump, thump. You sure this thing is off.
By George Washington
March 29, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this
John McCain has been saying a lot of downright nutty things lately. You’ve probably come across some of them, such as his admitted lack of knowledge about economics or his excitement at the prospect of remaining in Greater Mesopotamia for the next ten decades. Yet, alas, much of his craziness has been lost in the fog of the ongoing battle between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination. So here’s a recap of some nuggets of wisdom you may have missed — from McCain’s mouth to Bellevue’s Ears.
I guess Ron Paul isn’t American. Or Dennis Kucinich. Or many others who have questioned the mindset behind keeping our troops abroad forever, which is what an empire does, not a republic. Although, perhaps more people don’t argue “against our military presence” in the other spots he named, because, you know, those wars weren’t based on 100 percent fabricated evidence and didn’t make us less safe after they were done. Just a thought.
Just FYI, John Hagee makes Jeremiah Wright seem like Richard Simmons. Hagee has called the Catholic Church the “Great W*******,” an “apostate church,” the “Antichrist,” and a “false cult system.” And let’s not even get into what he has said about Jews.
This is McCain’s statement in suport of making permanent the tax cuts he voted and railed against in 2001 and 2003. Back then they were only a giveaway to the rich and “budget-busters.” Now that we are much further along in borrowing our economy from the Chinese, and the rich have become even richer, they are a way to stimulate the economy by putting money in the hands of working Americans.
This was a John McCain for president campaign robo-call in 2000. Today, as we pointed out, he hangs with the Rev. Hagee who thinks Catholicism is a “cult” and the “Antichrist.” How romantic.
Here are some examples of Sen. McCain’s epic battle with special-interest money: According to the Center for Responsive Politics, McCain has taken nearly $1.2 million in campaign contributions from the telephone utility and telecom service industries, more than any other senator. McCain sides with the telecom companies on retroactive immunity.
McCain is also the single largest recipient of campaign contributions from Ion Media Networks — formerly Paxson Communication — receiving $36,000 from the company and employees from 1997 to mid-year 2006.
By George Washington
March 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
For what important reason was Sen. McCain interrupting an explanation to the press of his positions on Iraq and national security to take a cell phone from an aide? Why his wife needed to buy them a new barbecue grill.
So naturally and quite logically, he voted against applying these same standards to the CIA. Apparently these rules won’t work effectively for spooks, just the men and women on the front lines.
How did he figure out what the insurgents — which his policies in Iraq have helped create — are up to? When they attacked us on 9/11, and the warning signs were all ignored by President Bush and his then National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, he was punished with winning a second term. So, of course, militants, who follow john McCain’s campaign like Republicans do the signs of the Rapture, are closely planning their events because they know the exact opposite will be the result this time.
Not only have we proven this false, but perhaps many can’t give money because they all work on his campaign. His campaign manager, Rick Davis, lobbyist. Top advisor, Charlie Black, lobbyist. The operative currently running his Senate office, Mark Buse, former lobbyist. And so it goes. Here is what one observer had to say. “It’s an interesting dichotomy. On the one hand, he’s presenting himself as the crusader against special interests and yet, on the other hand, he’s surrounded himself with senior advisers that are lobbyists,” said Sheila Krumholz of the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan, non-profit research group focused on money in politics.
Phew. Glad trusty Joe Lieberman was there to explain to the man of “experience,” a man who wants to lead the free world, that Sunnis (Al Qaeda) and Shia (Iran) not only don’t work together but are in direct conflict. We have only been at war there for five years, so I wouldn’t expect Sen. McCain to concern himself with such trivial matters.
By getalife
March 29, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
The Man Behind The 4,000th Number
God damn w and cheney.
By AJC Management
March 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
Hey, another retired general you will never hear the libs quoting:
{{{{Retired general Jack Keane, who advised the White House on the surge, said the offensive was a “very positive indication” that the Iraqi government was starting to address the deteriorating security situation in the south.}}}}
Indeed.
By getalife
March 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
Try to keep up.
Our troops had to take over and we are bombing the Shiites.
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
To understand why our politicians continue to support the American medical system, remember, our medical system is; the most expensive in the world; it is a disease maintenance system; it is THE ONLY HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD THAT IS BUILT ON PROFIT!!!!
By Glenn
March 29, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this
get,
Maybe the Commander-in-Chief should’ve emulated JFK and bailed when things got rough for the Iraqi military. Then he could’ve brought the troops home STAT, and awaited the next moves from China and Russia.
Sound like a plan?
By TW
March 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
Thank you getalife.
Yes, no doubt there will be some wide-eyed republicans when St. Peter points at the slide. Perhaps they should invest some of their Bush engineered fortune in air conditioning for their caskets…
The soldier leaves behind a beautiful wife and son, having made the ultimate sacrifice for no other reason than to help the wealthy upgrade their yacht furniture.
Shame.
Proud of the America my forefathers left me, ashamed at what I have done with it.
May God forgive us for ravaging his gift…
By getalife
March 29, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
“Obama’s attempt to oust Clinton and block voting is undemocratic:
“As sure as Democrats know all about ‘snatching defeat from the jaws of victory,’ if you Obama elites keep trying to push Clinton out of this primary race you’re going to end up with a much bigger problem. Clinton’s voters will dig themselves in and protest your undemocratic actions by either staying home or voting for John McCain.”
This was dumber than playing the race card for his radical pastor.
By getalife
March 29, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
TW,
It is up to us to stop w and cheney’s insanity by voting for a Dem President.
By BadOleBoys
March 29, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
Glenn, China and Russia are too smart to fall for your JFK-styled plan. I expect @@ is also too smart to go for the Clayton School board offer either. As for me, I’m still waiting for your rollout of the education plan that solves all problems at no cost to anyone. That is the plan that you and jbmlaw are still trying to iron out the details on, isn’t it?
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
Question: if it’s 75 degrees in Atlanta city limits yet 67 degrees north and east of Atlanta, is that global warming or global cooling? Inquiring minds want to know.
Anyway, I just couldn’t help pass this article up from the libs at PMSNBC:
Bleak retirements for 150 million?
You don’t say. It sounds to me like since retirees “only” get 40% of their retirement income from neo-Socialist Security, then we may just need another liberal socialist RAT politician out there to tell us the private sector isn’t pulling it’s weight and we need to tax the hell out of more individuals to help “even things out” a little and get yet MORE government involved in our paychecks. Bank on that, jack.
But that article sounds horrible, doesn’t it? Well, take a look at what another article sayeth from Reuters of all media outlets (Reuters is notorious for doctoring war photos for an agenda for you tattooed nipple pierced liberal freaks in Little Five Points):
Older Americans wealthier, living longer. CHICAGO (Reuters) - Older Americans have more money and are expected to live far longer than prior generations, U.S. government researchers said on Thursday. They said the average net worth of older Americans — those 65 or older — has increased almost 80 percent over the past 20 years.
What a contrast, no? Yep, this nation is just going to hell in a handbasket. I’ll bet Nanny Pelosi and Harry Reid will claim this is the result of their being elected to run congress, because GOD KNOWS they have very little to show for their “leadership” after 14 months.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this
Columbia’s first Earth Hour event has attracted 300 to 400 participants so far, as city residents prepare to switch off electric lights this weekend in an effort to cut pollution and increase awareness of greenhouse gas emissions, organizers said.
Well hell, I just know that cute little fuzzy Berlin polar bear who grew up, named Knut, is dancing like a Coca-Cola polar bear with this news. Gee, don’t you just feel all warm and fuzzy inside with liberalism?
By Devastator
March 29, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
New Rule: Catholics Must Get Up Out of the Pew and Walk Out of the Church Forever Bill Maher
When Barack Obama didn’t hear Reverend Wright say those awful things about America, he still should have rushed the stage, smite Reverend Wright with the cross, and left the church. If there’s anything the right wing can agree on, it’s that. And that gays are going hell, right after they suck them off in the airport bathroom. But it raises an obvious question, one that I haven’t heard asked, which is strange because it’s so obvious: If you leave a church when the head of the church says bad things about America, what do you do when your church hierarchy is caught up in a systematic and decades-long sex abuse scandal? And did I mention the people being sexually abused were children? Hundreds of them?
How about when the head of that church, or Pope, associated with and promoted members of the clergy who not only facilitated the sexual abuse and rape of hundreds and hundreds of children, but engaged in a decades-long cover-up of those crimes?
Reverend Wright associated with Farrakhan. The Pope works with Cardinal Law. Which is worse? Isn’t it the man who shuffled “priests” like Shanley and Geoghan and many others from parish to parish with the full knowledge of their crimes, and then claimed he had no idea?
Yes, by Sean Hannity’s own logic, Catholics like him, en masse, would be expected to abandon their church. Which shouldn’t be a problem, because they worship Reagan anyway.
COLMES: Then shouldn’t John McCain say he doesn’t support the views of a man who makes anti-Catholic statements? OBENSHAIN: He did, I believe. He said I’m not—I don’t agree with everything — a COLMES: And Obama says he does not support anti-Semitism, as expressed by Louis Farrakhan. HANNITY: Leave the church.
Well, what about it, Sean? Shouldn’t you leave your church? I mean, like, five years ago?
And since you haven’t, how do we know you’re not also a secret child f***? Again, just using your logic: HANNITY: …What if he really deep down in his heart thinks like Pastor Wright? LUNTZ: It’s not for anyone to answer that question. HANNITY: Well, is that dangerous for this country? I think that would be dangerous. That would mean we would have — if he agreed with Wright, and I don’t know that he does, but if he did, that would mean a racist and an anti-Semite would be president of the United States.
Side note: Does it occur to anyone that, for the past five years, the nuts every politician has been busy distancing themselves from—Reverend Wright, Reverend Falwell, Reverend Hagee, Reverend Haggard, Reverend Robertson—are all, you know, reverends?
Why don’t we just go back to the days when politicians kept their religions to themselves? Wasn’t that better?
By AJC Management
March 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
{{{{By getalife March 29, 2008 1:31 PM Try to keep up. Our troops had to take over and we are bombing the Shiites.}}}}
al-Gitmo: Actually, we started bombing the Shiites in 2003, but why quibble over minor points?
I think the bigger issue would be that the Iraqis didn’t flee from the battlefield in terror like you libs would have.
I have a feeling that before long it is going to be Mookie wanting to cut and run.
Especially when he sees his army being used for practice dummies, can you just imagine, “young Iraqi soldier, look here and see what the daisy cutter does when you mash this button.”
~~~~~
{{{{By Rufus March 29, 2008 2:04 PM Question: if it’s 75 degrees in Atlanta city limits yet 67 degrees north and east of Atlanta, is that global warming or global cooling? Inquiring minds want to know.}}}}
Rufus: Which location do you reckon the libs have their official global warming thermometer mounted at today?
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
“Why don’t we just go back to the days when politicians kept their religions to themselves? Wasn’t that better?”
I agree, toilet devastator! Now perhaps you can explain to us all why the media fawned when Hill-Bill were always shown coming out of a church with B***** Bill crutching a Bible during their tenture?
Or better yet TD and your fellow liberal RATs here, let’s get ya’lls opinion on this:
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/334482.aspx
By Devastator
March 29, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
In the coming week, the Obama for America Campaign is launching a program called Obama Organizing Fellows.
This summer we are looking for students or recent graduates who want to be a part of a new generation of leadership that believes, like Senator Obama, that real change comes from the ground up.
Fellows will be trained on the basics of organizing & campaign fundamentals and then placed in a community to carryout grassroots activities. Program participation will start on June 5 through the end of the summer. Fellows will be asked to commit to a minimum of 30 hours per week.
We are going to be releasing the formal application in a matter of days, but I wanted to let you know about it early so that you can start spreading word to your friends
In the meantime, you can sign up and encourage others to sign up at my. barackobama. com/obamafellows to make sure you are among first to receive applications.
Thanks again for all you are doing to elect Barack Obama.
Tobin Van Ostern National Deputy Director Students for Barack Obama
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
“Rufus: Which location do you reckon the libs have their official global warming thermometer mounted at today?”
AJCM: they probably follow this model of global walarmist hysteria of liberalism.
Idiots.
By Devastator
March 29, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
Rufus(AJC Management),
Please do not speak to me.
Anything a no life having loser like you has to say isn’t worth paying attention to.
Thanks.
By TW
March 29, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
96% of our casualties have come after ‘w’ said mission accomplished. Because his Iraq planning was an abortion at best, that hangs all but 160 of our 4000 killed in action on raw, republican arrogance. Real tough, those republicans, especially the ones like our commander who, when given the chance to fight himself, hid underneath his daddy’s bed with a case of beer.
Discretion the better part of valor? Not when you’re a republican - no need for discretion when you can get someone else to do your fighting for you.
The Republicans have proudly reduced our military to free labor for their capitalistic ventures. Hooray…great job, boys…be real proud of yourselves…
By AJC Management
March 29, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Devastator March 29, 2008 2:22 PM If you leave a church when the head of the church says bad things about America, what do you do when your church hierarchy is caught up in a systematic and decades-long sex abuse scandal? And did I mention the people being sexually abused were children? Hundreds of them?}}}}
Dimastator: Hey, why don’t you cultists check out which location is more prone to have perverts lurking among it’s children, the church or the public school system where you pinko liberals dwell?
You’ll be surprised.
And why were on the subject of not knowing a f’n thing, I totally agree that Obambi’s twenty year spiritual mentor and family priest, Jeremiah Wright, is a whackjob no better than Pat Robertson.
That’s why the vast majority of us Conservatives don’t go to Pat Robertson’s church, dumbas-s.
Too bad you can’t say that about Buckwheat.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
“Rufus(AJC Management),”
Uh, buttplunger TD- just smoke more of that paranoia weed, man. Your liberal brain cells will thankya. I promise.
Freak.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
Oh no! Another thunderstorm is hitting downtown ATL. It might even be a tornado! Global warming! Run for your lives!
More sob stories:
One in 6 West Virginians is on food stamps … Carla Nardella, executive director of the Mountaineer Food Bank, said demand around the state is up, while food donations are decreasing. “We never have enough food to totally give everybody what they really want,” Nardella said.
The multi-million dollar taxpayer question: what defines what food stamps recipients “really want?” How many times has anyone here seen an EBT user buy steaks like New York strips and other luxury items versus say chicken or tilapia which is cheaper and actually more healthy? (The argument against this argument is that EBT users can’t live off “cheap” food like SPAM).
Here’s a thought. If your local economy isn’t providing a job for you, why don’t you make like your ancestors in this nation (as did I) and pack up and go where the FREAKING JOBS are? I know, I know. We have government to “fix” things for you, your offspring, your offspring’s offspring, etc. etc.
By Devastator
March 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
AJC Management,duh, Rufus, or whatever personality you’re currently operating under,
You’ve made a racist comment by referring to Obama as buckwheat. I actually think you are a black person venting but I could be wrong.
Let’s make a deal: You use racist comments, I’ll use homophobic comments, deal?
By getalife
March 29, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this
Too bad you can’t say that about Buckwheat.
Your racism is showing.
Make no mistake, to stop the insanity in Iraq and economic downturn, it is up to us to vote and elect a Dem President.
I will never vote gop and if Obama is the nominee, I will vote for him.
I hope Obama supporters will do the same if Clinton is the nominee.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A group of prominent Hillary Clinton donors sent a letter to House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday asking her to retract her comments on superdelegates and stay out of the Democratic fight over their role in the presidential race.
I’m sure that this has been posted here before, but I thought I’d just drive the point home: what asshat liberal out there believes women would be peaceful in leadership? Hehehe.
Lurking on one of the RAT blogs, and I can’t remember which (it may have been “Think Progress”), one nut job liberal commented that SanFranNan Pelosi was actually a (sit down right now, put your drinks down)… was a REPUBLICAN in a Democrat’s skin. I freaking kid you not. Sure is fun watching these RATs gnaw at each other’s sores of liberalism. Sure as hell is fun to watch.
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
@AJC Management
How clever of you to try to slip in your racist epitath at the end of your post, calling Barack “Buckwheat.”
Aren’t you a standup sort of person that throws those things out and runs away from them.
You declare yourself to be a conservative. I wonder where your conservative roots lie, Alfalfa?
Did your meth wear off?
By Devastator
March 29, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
getalife,
I’ll do the same.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
“AJC Management,duh, Rufus, or whatever personality you’re currently operating under, You’ve made a racist comment by referring to Obama as buckwheat.”
Uhm, paranoid TD: I talk politics about pathetic liberal RATs. That is ALL. But you go on living in that paranoid delusional world of wacko liberalism. I couldn’t care less.
By AJC Management
March 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Devastator March 29, 2008 2:56 PM Let’s make a deal: You use racist comments, I’ll use homophobic comments, deal?}}}}
You can’t stand the heat, maybe you should stay out of the kitchen, no?
{{{{By Devastator March 29, 2008 >>>>>>>>2:22 PM<<<<<<<<< If there’s anything the right wing can agree on, it’s that. And that gays are going hell, right after they suck them off in the airport bathroom.}}}}
{{{{By AJC Management March 29, 2008 >>>>>>>>>2:45 PM<<<<<<<<<< Too bad you can’t say that about Buckwheat.}}}}
You got some nerve sitting around here flaming Christians with abandon and not expecting to get a little nastiness thrown back at you.
And calling someone a comedy character from the 1940’s is a far cry from “racism,” especially seeing how your political party has a Senator who’s a member of the Ku Klux Klan.
That you have no problem with.
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
@Rufus,
Show you what a whale-gravy loving maggot you are.
You speak of West Virginia and infer that those that want a job should go where the jobs are.
Sounds like you are familiar with Appalachia and you were able to CRAWL out of the caves and have learned to read and write with conviction.
Where will you learn how to think and get over your moonshine-induced state, SLOW MOTION?
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
I can’t let this go. Two resident RODENTS complain about AJCM calling Obama “Buckwheat.”
Well, let’s just dip into the old history archives, shall we?
We get it. It’s only Otay to be a racist if you are a liberal RAT.
By Devastator
March 29, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
AJC Management,
Sorry but I didn’t say that.
Someone jacked me dude. That’s not how I feel, so I don’t know what else to tell you.
If you follow my posts, you should know I don’t say crap like that!
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
@AJC Management
How can a low-life like you try to extrapolate using a cartoon character to make your point, when YOU ARE A LIVING EXAMPLE OF CARTOON YOURSELF?
Your logical conclusion is lacking.
You are no more than a pooper-scooper following behind an elephant with diarrhea.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
Awe, I got Jackie’s liberal pinko panties in a wad. I just read that article and posted it here, that’s all. But you go on reading into it what you will, you miserable liberal wretched witch. Trash.
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
@Rufus,
It is okay to be the racist you are, but, be big enough to stand behind your intent.
It is not the letter of the action, it is the spirit of the action that is reflective of your thoughts.
Please, elucidate vermin!
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
@Rufus,
You don’t have enough going for you to get anything I have in wad.
It is refreshing to see folks like you to reveal their true feelings without couching it in political-speak.
Please continue to inform this audience as to your true feelings.
You have made wonderful progress in giving insightful views into who and what you are.
Please, give us more!
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
Everyone kindly note that Jacked UP Jackie just lashed out at my West Virginia link (“senatored” by a former Klansman as AJCM reminds us) and went into a tirade without addressing the issue of WHY 1 in 6 West Virginia people are sucking off the government teet. Liberalism and emotions lose every single time.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this
“@Rufus, You don’t have enough going for you to get anything I have in wad.”
Well obviously I do. You are here responding to my post about WV and lashing out with personal attacks like “@Rufus, Show you what a whale-gravy loving maggot you are. You speak of West Virginia and infer that those that want a job should go where the jobs are.”
You fool nobody but yourself, liberal fool.
By AJC Management
March 29, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Jackie March 29, 2008 3:16 PM @AJC Management How can a low-life like you try to extrapolate using a cartoon character to make your point, when YOU ARE A LIVING EXAMPLE OF CARTOON YOURSELF? Your logical conclusion is lacking. You are no more than a pooper-scooper following behind an elephant with diarrhea.}}}}
Oh, I forgot, I’m not a victim so I can’t be nasty, like all you liberals are.
I’m not privileged.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander, you choose to stereotype the whole of Christianity with Larry Craig, then I’ll stereotype your presidential candidate with a naive black child TV character.
By the way a TV character in a program that ran on the Big three broadcast networks for decades on end without not one of them having the slightest problem with it.
You wanna go there?
By RW-(the original)
March 29, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
Might I point out that not only was Buckwheat a decades old comedic figure, as AJCM points out, but he was a beloved decades old comedic figure. One that Eddie Murphy had no problem playing in a recurring role on SNL not so long ago.
It’s also a foodcrop and when added to Zydeco, a pretty darned good Creole party band.
All that being said, the very worst you could call AJCM’s statement would be that it was somewhat bigoted, but that’s only in your own interpretation which means the bigot is more likely to be the reader than the writer. It’s also not racist in the least no matter how you read it.
By Devastator
March 29, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
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By Rufus
March 29, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
Ok, we got a little sidetracked with the emotional disease of liberalism. I’ll try and get us back on track of exposing said disease.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0308/ThinkProgressretractsMcCainplagiarism_charge.html”>Yesterday, liberal blog Think Progress published an explosive and “EXCLUSIVE” charge that John McCain had plagiarized from a 1996 speech by Adm. Timothy Ziemer. Now Think Progress takes it back. Think Progress had gotten a tip and searched Nexis to verify the scoop. But it never contacted the campaign. From the explanation: “After we published the post, the McCain campaign contacted us and pointed to a speech given by the senator in 1995, which appears on McCain’s Senate site.”
Yeah like THAT has never happened before - liberal RATs so full of emotional rage against Republicans they can’t even take the time to make sound judgments on the origin of a story they are investigating. Oh that is SO not surprising and CBS.
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this
@Rufus,
You were attempting to use the West Virginia connection because of Sen. Byrd.
EVERYONE knows that he was a former Klansman; EVEN YOU KNOW THAT!
With that being said, it has to be something that has been in the public arena for MANY YEARS for you to catch on.
Now, does someone have to be a member of the Klan to be a racist and disrespectful of other Amercians?
Oh, did that question fall in your venue? Why not answer that one, explaining to all why you choose to use things like that to illuminate your dislike of liberals.
I bet you like Strom Thurmond, George Wallace, Jesse Helms, Bull Connor, etc., etc.?
My, were these folks the shining examples of Constitutional officers that pledged to protect and defend the Constitution of the USA?
By the way, have you made that pledge? The USA military need a feed “good men.”
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
“@Rufus, It is okay to be the racist you are, but, be big enough to stand behind your intent.” -Jackie
That angry miserable liberal wretched witch still thinks I’m AJCM. I told you liberalism was a disease.
These people are sick I tell ya. SICK.
By Devastator
March 29, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
AJC Management,
Question: Why did you call Obama buckwheat?
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
@Rufus,
You happen to be the fool, maggot.
You asked me if I wanted to go there, bring it on!!!
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
Damn. Why do links here only work about half the time? Again, the “Think Progress” lie bust.
@Jackieass:
“You were attempting to use the West Virginia connection because of Sen. Byrd.”
Actually you dumb liberal witch, I came across that article and posted it. It just so happened RACE suddenly came into play on this blog. You are slow, and I expect that from a liberal. My overall theme today started with GOVERNMENT DEPENDENCE. Go back and read my first post today again, idiot. It just so happened that comments about race started and I posted about West Virginia.
Now you can keep that alive, but I’m moving on to bash you diseased liberal RATs on the left. Which is obviously what I do best, liberal.
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this
@RW
You indicate that Buckwheat was a beloved character and Eddie Murphy played his character on Saturday Night Live.
You didn’t that about the supporting evidence that you choose to use.
Eddie Murphy is a comedian that was using that character to berate the racist tendencies of folks like yourself to help you try and relate to people of color.
Are you saying that blacks “loved” Buckwheat?
What a joke. Where did you get that factual information?
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
“@Rufus, You happen to be the fool, maggot. You asked me if I wanted to go there, bring it on!!!” -Jacked Up
Stupid emotional little wretched liberal witch. That’s YOUR fight with AJCM! We are NOT the same!!!
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
@Rufus,
You tried to used racist statements to prove your original posting.
You are now trying to use the fact that someone is refuting the racial implications you used to further bolster your argument.
Typically, trying to “throw the rock and hand your hand.”
YOU used the Buckwheat analogy; YOU used the West Virginia inference ; YOU felt that using you deflection techniques that Karl Rove and his cohorts use to change the subject will allow you to follow through on your thesis without proving your point.
YOU are trying to prove your point by proving that those who challenge you are not upset, angry and do not speak to the question at hand - Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, etc.
These techniques will not work anymore. You have run out of vetriol, SLOW MOTION.
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
@Rufus,
Your trying to use the pejorative “liberal” does not move anything with me.
I am a liberal and you are a fascist, now what?
By RW-(the original)
March 29, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
Jackie,
I said Buckwheat was a beloved character and he was generally beloved by the watchers of the Our Gang show. The overall makeup of our population would most certainly mean that a very large number of his fans were white.
People like you sure do like to call people racists at the drop of a hat. It’s too bad because racists should be called on their racism and condemned for it, but your ilk destroys the meaning of the word and rather than berate a true racist you use the word as a cheap debating tactic. I wonder why it is you see everything in terms of color of skin rather than content of character anyway? Would you call yourself a racist, a bigot, or just prejudiced?
I’ll go on treating every single person I meet equally if it’s all the same to you.
By AJC Management
March 29, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Devastator March 29, 2008 3:37 PM AJC Management, Question: Why did you call Obama buckwheat?}}}}
Cause he reminds me of a naive little child.
Why did you call the right wing a bunch of airport restroom homosexuals?
Is there something wrong with being a homosexual?
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
Limbaugh safe from voter-fraud charges “We have no intention of prosecuting Rush Limbaugh because lying through your teeth and being stupid isn’t a crime,” said Leo Jennings, a spokesman for Democratic Attorney General Marc Dann.”
Hehehe. Awe. Do I detect some sour grapes over knowing damn full well they had no case, ESPECIALLY considering RATs have been doing that for DECADES? I’m thoroughly disappointed in the pussification of the liberal RATs there in Ohio. I wanted to see them get squashed under the wheels of justice.
What a shame. The good news is that Hillary will be swinging at Obama all the way to the end it appears. There is a God.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
“@Rufus, You tried to used racist statements to prove your original posting.”
You have emotional problems, don’t you Jacked Up the liberal? You can’t tell one blogger apart from another. You are f’d in the head, but I already knew that. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be a diseased liberal.
“Your trying to use the pejorative “liberal” does not move anything with me. I am a liberal and you are a fascist, now what?”
Liberalism disgusts me, as do you. Nothing personal or racial (whatever race you are) - just politics. Then you call me a fascist as if that’s supposed to bother me. Hey liberal witch, you see me TELLING YOU what kind of car to drive or light bulbs to use or how MUCH of your check should go to those West Virginia food stamp recipients? Nah, didn’t think so, liberal fascist witch.
By Glenn
March 29, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
BadOleBoys,
Hello again. I’d be happy to present a Clayton plan, to you or to anyone else. Must it be done here? What are the chances that you would consider it carefully? And were you to find it promising, would you in any way act on its promise?
Incidentally, what causes you to believe that @@ would not consider running? She is delighted with her life, but not with the life prospects of Clayton’s schoolchildren.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
Cleared: Charges dropped against Haditha Marine Stephen Tatum
Wow. Did Murtha cut-n-run and fall flat off the face of the earth or what? These Marines, you will remember, are the men who he UP FRONT ACCUSED of murder in Haditha with NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER brought forth at the time of the accusation.
“The evidence demonstrates that positive identification was not required before engaging the targets …”
I hope Murtha sleeps well at night as well as the media who are COMPLETELY IGNORING THIS UNLIKE WHEN THE STORY FIRST BROKE.
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
@RW,
I do not call people “names” because of who they are.
Pejoratives are strong words and can only be justified by the “spirit” of the use of the word. A single use of the word when one is not aware of how and why it is used is ignorance of the facts. Continued use of the word is stupid and shows a lack of caring about what connotations that word happens to mean to the target.
Of course Buckwheat was viewed by a majority white audience. Did that mean he was beloved by the audience, or, was he just a character that provided a straight man for some of the things that were portrayed in the show?
You are right, I do not know you well enough to make the accusation that you are a racist; I do know that your words about Buckwheat have shown a racist tendency, from which I drew my conclusion.
It may be your lack of sensitivity that you are not aware what the use of that word means to many blacks.
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
@Rufus,
No one can go to the Food Stamp line because you have devised a way to get more than you were supposed to receive.
Whats wrong, run out of meth? Do you plan to sell your illegal stamp collection for meth money?
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
Kindly note how no liberal RAT has ever come to the defense of racist comments like “Uncle Tom” against Justice Thomas, “Aunt Jemima” against Condi Rice, and others. Just keeping things real here. Ok. I’m done with that topic. Really. Liberalism is a disease, and that’s all it is besides a toilet bowl full of nasty wretched hypocrisy.
Moving on…
SAN ANTONIO, Texas (Reuters) - The head of the top U.S. phone company AT&T Inc (T.N) said on Wednesday it was having trouble finding enough skilled workers to fill all the 5,000 customer service jobs it promised to return to the United States from India.
Not surprising. A company I used to work for would hire temps and some of them would be good enough to go permanent, but they were only a minority. Here is what three of our “bright” young adults in America had to offer in my experience:
One young lady always brought her cellular phone in and would keep a loud obnoxious ring tone on. When told on three separate occasions to turn it off while at work or put in on vibrate, her response was, “It’s my phone. Leave my phone alone.” (Yes, in THAT tone of voice). Leave it to be said she lasted less than a week. (I would have thrown the little snotty bi-tch out right after that statement).
Another one of our fine young government educated examples couldn’t do simple math. Now since the job had to do with basic spreadsheet data entry from manually adding up check stubs, it was kinda important.
Then my favorite was the psychotic schizo chick that showed up for two days, then didn’t show up for a day. On Thursday, she showed up and said she quit about an hour into the day. Then on Friday she came back in and said she had changed her mind and wanted to work because (I kid you not) “it wasn’t that bad after all.”
You think any of these pathetic losers are voting RAT this November?
^^That’s our future, folks. Get used to it under the disease of liberalism. They are being molded well.
By @@
March 29, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
Glenn @ 11:44:
BadOleBoys, whatsay we run @@ for school board?
Say whaaatttttttt? And here I thought you liked me. While I’m flattered, there’s something you must know.
White candidates down my way (save one SW district) cannot get elected to any government office. They’ve tried and failed. This leaves the kids, all of them, at the mercy of the majority vote.
So in the infamous words of William Tecumseh Sherman “Out flanking your opponent by sending a Jumbo to the front may work on the battlefield, but not in the voting booth.” Wait a minute…..
that was Patton.
I sure hope that ^^^ comment won’t be seen as racist. I’m thinking Jumbo might qualify, but then who the heck knows anymore?
I called myself the Jumbo, and I’m white so….
nevermind, this has become too complicated.
Thanks but NO THANKS Glenn.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
“@Rufus, No one can go to the Food Stamp line because you have devised a way to get more than you were supposed to receive.”
Awe. What an insult from a brilliant, over hysterical, over hyper amped up liberal demonRAT. What happened you miserable wretched liberal RAT? Run out of ideas so soon? Have you actually come out of the fog and realize that I am one and ONLY ONE blogger here?
Nah, don’t disappoint me. I know you’ve got more keyboard diarrhea of the liberal “brain” where that came from.
By AJC Management
March 29, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Jackie March 29, 2008 4:11 PM It may be your lack of sensitivity that you are not aware what the use of that word means to many blacks.}}}}
Jackie: I am not up to speed with the latest racial grievances and my use of the word “Buckwheat” was solely meant to convey the naivity of Barak Obama, but if that name offended you personally, then I sincerely apologize for using it.
~~~~~
{{{{By Jackie March 29, 2008 3:46 PM Eddie Murphy is a comedian that was using that character to berate the racist tendencies of folks like yourself to help you try and relate to people of color.}}}}
RW: This is a classic example of victim speak.
And the logic is faulty too.
Did not Jackie call me “Alfalfa” and was not “Alfalfa” an unfairly stereotyped white child that played on the very same show?
The creators of Our Gang did not single out “Buckwheat” for their stereotypical treatment, they singled out ALL children and adults for that matter to.
But the victim class can conjure up some new grievance from one character of many, and with it, sling around the charge of “racism” to see who they can get to mau mau them.
The aggrieved can say anything they damn well please about anybody, anytime, because of their “victimhood,” even the most gutter racist and bigoted things imaginable, and at the same time, they cannot see the folly of undermining their very own victim status.
If they cannot be sensitive to the “feelings” of others, why should they expect the same?
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this
@Rufus,
Notice how you have not been paying attention.
Those folks that you named may not be well-like in the minority community, however, the likes of you and others do not have the rights to say “anything” about anyone in the minority community has come to their defense in the use of those pejoratives.
Again, you don’t know what you are talking about!
Speaking of disease, I wonder which one it is you have being a fascist?
By RW-(the original)
March 29, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
Jackie,
As I said before the interpretation of whether the use of the name Buckwheat is bigoted, or in your misdefined word, racist is the perception of the reader.
Buckwheat the character was pretty oblivious to his surroundings and apparently so is Obama if we take him at his word, so it’s pretty easy for a reader that doesn’t see people in little color/victim groups to interpret the comment that way.
Frankly I think you’re in over your head here as I saw you draw a distinction between a liberal and a fascist when the policy positions of the two are virtually indistinguishable.
Pejoratives are strong words and can only be justified by the “spirit” of the use of the word. A single use of the word when one is not aware of how and why it is used is ignorance of the facts. Continued use of the word is stupid and shows a lack of caring about what connotations that word happens to mean to the target.
Are you chastising yourself in that paragraph for calling everyone that doesn’t have your same world view a racist or am I giving you too much credit?
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
“@Rufus, Notice how you have not been paying attention. Those folks that you named may not be well-like in the minority community, however, the likes of you and others do not have the rights to say “anything” about anyone in the minority community has come to their defense in the use of those pejoratives.”
I said I was done with the topic, ok? I’m done exposing hypocrisy by you disgusting pigs from HELL on the left. Ok?
By W
March 29, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
My fellow followers,
It has been brought to my attention that wars cost money. Lots of money. If any of you know of someone who is not paying their war tax, please report them to {{{{{RuFus}}}}}. He is a very lonely person and is in need of someone that he can relate to.
Thank You, Your Leader, W
P.S. I want to also thank all of you Democrats for at least having the fortitude to pay your share of taxes without whining about it. And, whining, and whining, and whining…
By Glenn
March 29, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
@@,
Forgive me, but I’ve got to give it one more shot: what if you were to win the praises of the senior pastors of four of the five largest, predominantly black churches in Clayton County? Would you run then?
Take the dare, please.
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
@RW,
I statement to you was a broad overview of the thinking in the minority community about the use of code-words.
For you to believe that the reader of the statement has the right to determine whether his interpretation of any word is the correct and only “truth” is woefully misguided.
Secondly, if I am in “over my head”, why don’t you kindly point out where I can get some help to alleviate my drowning?
As you try to point out about my use of a liberal and fascist, it sounds that you have not availed yourself to the meaning of the words.
No, I was not trying to chastise myself. My point was to point out to you what my position was as it seems that you still have not found a way to understand what is so obvious.
Help me in my quest of understanding how I am in over my head. Your counsel is needed.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
“Frankly I think you’re (Jacked up Jackie) in over your head here as I saw you draw a distinction between a liberal and a fascist when the policy positions of the two are virtually indistinguishable.”
Thank you, RW. I saw it, you saw it, probably everyone NOT a disgusting liberal RAT sees it: we aren’t telling others how to live, what do drive, how big a home to own, what to eat, and how much money should be removed from their paychecks for socialist causes (that’s taxes to you nipple pierced liberal freaks in Virginia Highlands), or as the liberal RATs would euphemise, “for the good of the whole.” <— Hell Nazis said that for their “cause.”
By getalife
March 29, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
Could you imagine Clinton calling Obama “Buckwheat?”
Its racist, stop digging.
Anyhoo, keep voicing your insanity so Americans will marginilize you radical right kooks.
A repeat of the 06 thumpin, if you will.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
“I called myself the Jumbo, and I’m white so…. Nevermind, this has become too complicated.”
Do like I do, @@, stay as far away from any racial issue as possible. Don’t even THINK about race, unless you want be labeled a racist merely in thought. Haven’t you heard the news? Diseased liberals KNOW what you are thinking. But like today, however, it’s apparent that any diseased liberal can and will attempt to drag you into their own little liberal world of misery.
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
@Rufus,
You keep making statements that you think are supported by invalid facts.
Do you believe that policies of liberals and fascists (like yourself) are the same because RW deems them to be?
Point out a policy that meet this criteria. It will surely lend credence to the support given you by RW because you are delusional.
By RW-(the original)
March 29, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this
For you to believe that the reader of the statement has the right to determine whether his interpretation of any word is the correct and only “truth” is woefully misguided.
Jackie,
A reader can only determine for themselves what they think someone meant. There is also the option that Devastator eventually got around to of asking the writer what they meant.
I’m not sure what you’re babbling in the rest of that sentence, but unless the reader explores the possibility that their interpretation is wrong they have no other choice but to think their interpretation is correct unless they know they happen to be an imbecile and assume that all their perceptions are wrong. So are you saying that your view that this was a racist statement is the only true interpretation or are you telling us you view yourself an imbecile?
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this
“P.S. I want to also thank all of you Democrats for at least having the fortitude to pay your share of taxes without whining about it. And, whining, and whining, and whining…”
Ah yes, PoFO has come out of the pot cloud just long enough to join us!
Republicans give a bigger share of their incomes to charity, says a prominent economist
Read much liberal azzhole?
Guess not:
A new Gallup Poll recently asked Democrats and Republicans to describe their own “mental health.” Fifty-eight percent of Republicans describe their mental health as “excellent,” compared to 38 percent of Democrats.
The [mental] disease of liberalism is prominent here. Sucks to be them, I suppose.
By RW-(the original)
March 29, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
Rufus,
Under a fascist government the businesses are privately owned but under the control of the government. I can’t for the life of me understand how they can advocate fascism day in and day out without ever knowing it. The term “useful idiot” comes to mind, with or without the “useful.”
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
NAA Reveals Biggest Ad Revenue Plunge in More Than 50 Years
Well for the liberal RATs at the New York Slimes, the Atlanta Urinal Constipation (the regurgitating lapdog of the Slimes), the Bahston Globe, the Miami Herald, the Orlando Sentinel, the Chicago Tribune, the LA Slimes, and the SanFranSicko PubeHairFollicle, all I can do is shout one big loud collective WELL THAT’S JUST A DAMNED SHAME.
By W
March 29, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this
My fellow war-mongering followers,
It has come to my attention that our brothers, the Sunnis, are in need of our help against the evil Shiites led by the Iranians. Just one more surge should be enough to put the Sunnis back in power. However, this effort will take money. Lots of money. Remember. War costs money. Lots of money. If you do not have the money, then sign up for the family plan and begin your tour of Iraq today.
Thank You, Your Leader, W.
By Ja
March 29, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this
@RW
I am glad that you found the correct meaning of fascist.
Now, apply that same meaning to the USA today, specifically.
Tell us what “government regulation” is, USEFUL?
Tell us what is happening on Wall Street and with the credit crisis, USEFUL?
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this
“@Rufus, You keep making statements that you think are supported by invalid facts. Do you believe that policies of liberals and fascists (like yourself) are the same because RW deems them to be?”
(You still here you wretched liberal witch??)
I’m just dealing with you liberals and your disgusting policy diseases, like TELLING us how much we should pay in taxes for the “good of the whole” and more pertinent, TELLING us how we should live our lives for the junkass science known as man-made global warming. No Jackie, you aren’t important enough to warrant a lengthy case exhibit on how the disease of liberalism is the true fascist movement:
Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers the individual subordinate to the interests of the state, party or society as a whole.
Sound familiar you liberal skank?
By RW-(the original)
March 29, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
Glenn,
If I might interject here, even if @@ were to run for office I can’t imagine she would want her real name associated with her blog character. Maybe you haven’t been here long enough to know how despicable some of these liberal stalkers are.
By @@
March 29, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
Glenn:
Forgive me, but I’ve got to give it one more shot: what if you were to win the praises of the senior pastors of four of the five largest, predominantly black churches in Clayton County? Would you run then?
I thought that pastors weren’t supposed to promote candidates. That would make me an accessory to the crime.
Man!!!! You’re determined to get me into trouble aren’t you?
Naaahhhhh, I’m perfectly happy doing what I do. It’s not as though I don’t involve myself, I do. I communicate with my elected officials through e-mails. I attend meetings. I organize on zoning issues. I badger our politicians to the point that I’ve earned a reputation as an O-:MG….ACTIVIST.
I once assisted in a campaign for a candidate running against a BOC Chairman by placing a 5’X6’ sign at the road in front of my house. My guy lost, and I paid a heavy price in a subsequent zoning dispute. It was revenge, pure and simple.
It’s dirty business, and not for the faint of heart.
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this
@RW,
Does the “government” control the Military Industrial Complex, the Oil industry, the banks, the dissemination of information through the public media.
Comes on USEFUL, help us out?
By Glenn
March 29, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
BlogFathah,
I just burned the Havanaise, a lovely piece I hadn’t known. Picked Yo-Yo’s.
I’m burning music for the first time in sufficient quantity to mix&match. I wish I knew of better burnable collections, as iTunes is like the record aisle in the back of the drugstore.
Thanks for the tip. In kind, here’s a fave of roughly equal length: Satie’s “Je te Veux: Valse - Modere”. Like a little symphonic piece, but for cafe upright piano.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this
“Under a fascist government the businesses are privately owned but under the control of the government. I can’t for the life of me understand how they can advocate fascism day in and day out without ever knowing it.”
Yeah I know RW. It’s not like the disease of liberalism constantly b!tches about evil profit making and wants more and more and more government CONTROL to be had over corporations. I must have dreamed that up when Hillary said she wants more government control and oversight of corporations. How invariably stupid of me to equate liberalism with fascism.
Let me guess: Hillary et. al. misspoke! What pathetic pathological LIARS.
By W
March 29, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
My fellow followers,
It has come to my attention that one of many curly’s (a.k.a., {{{{{}}}}}), is trying to imitate a conservative. If you see this curly, please remind him that he is supposed to be a Republican, a southern Republican, a tax-paying southern Republican. Also, please remind him that war costs money. Lots of money. Tell him to quit whining, and whining, and whining, and whining, and just pay his war tax so he can return to the status of “tax-paying southern Republican”.
Thank You, Your Leader, W
By RW-(the original)
March 29, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
Ja,
Is that short for Jackie? It sounds rather racist to me. j/k
I’m a free market capitalist and I would like to see as little government intervention as possible. Today’s rush to patch up anybody or any corporation that hits a bump in the road through some government “fix” is never a good idea. That’s one of the problems with Republican leadership, but with Democrats we put the same problems on a bullet train. Either way Socialism is our future, it’s only a matter of time unless we can clean house and get back to letting people live in freedom which includes the possibility of failure.
By jm
March 29, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this
I wonder what Mr. Wooten’s next great revelation will be now that he has discovered that politicians “play games”. Maybe he will discover that they are more interested in getting re-elected than actually getting any thing done.
As for me, I wonder if our current nanny state government will allow for Sunday alcohol sales. Then again, good conservatives like Mr. Wooten and Governor Perdue believe they know better.
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this
@RW,
You are too clever, by half!
You throw crap out in your conversation, then you try to make your point with a different argument.
Which one do you want to debate, your “below the radar statement,” or, your desire to prevent socialism, as you put it.
Guess what, our form of government has a mixture of all types of government; fascism, socialism, Marxism, democracy and communism.
Is that over my head?
By AJC Management
March 29, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this
al-Gitmo: I just emailed her kampaign, so look for it to happen in the next few days.
~~~~~
{{{{“New Zealander For Whom Sen. Clinton Named Dies; Also First Man To Climb Everest. Sen. Clinton Was At The Summit To Greet Him, After Landing Under Heavy Sniper Fire From The Abominable Snowman.”}}}}
{{{{Why? Where did the magic go? Well, the show got miscast. I wrote a decade ago that Hillary was like Margaret Dumont to Bill’s Groucho Marx. He goes around leering at cocktail waitresses, waggling his eyebrows and his famously unlit cigar. And Hillary would stand there, seemingly oblivious to the subpoenaed dress and DNA analysis and all the rest: In double-acts, the best straight men (or women) are the ones who appear never to get the joke, and that was Hillary in the late Nineties, standing on stage alongside Bill night after night with her rictus grin and droning in the robotic cadences of that computerized voice in your car that tells you to fasten your seatbelt that “I. Am. So. Proud. Of. My. Husband. And. Our. President. Bill. Clinton.”}}}}
By RW-(the original)
March 29, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this
jm,
The State of Georgia was governed exclusively by Democrats for about a hundred years or so until about the last six or seven. Why is it just now that our nanny state government is keeping you from buying your booze on Sunday? Of course if you can show me where it was legal until Sonny and the Republicans came on board and they banned it I’ll reconsider your position.
By the way, it’s Saturday so you better hit the liquor stores.
By jbmlaw
March 29, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
I see some of our leftist friends have played the race card, affirming that calling Obama “Buckwheat” constitutes a vile epithet.
In the spirit of comity, I propose that our conservative brethren refrain from referring to Obama as “Buckwheat” and instead borrow a different pet name, from one of our resident leftist bloggers, for the democrat standard-bearer. I refer to the following post:
By getalife
December 12, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this
Midori,
No big rush for chimpy. He will spew some more stupid crap next year while Baghdad burns. That is criminal indeed.
I think shotgun face cheney will resign and McCain will take his place for when chimpy gets impeached.
By RW-(the original)
March 29, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this
Is that over my head?
Ja,
I told you that hours ago.
What “under the radar” statement are you referring to? And my answer to your question of government intervention was just that. An answer to a question. A question you asked prior to the answer. There’s usually a sequence to these things that perhaps you’re unfamiliar with.
By BadOleBoys
March 29, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this
@@ is my kind of taxpaying citizen. I know of what you speak w.r.t. some elected officials (and even hired ones) and their arrogance. I just throw it right back in their faces.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this
Now now, jbm, only the liberal RATs are allowed to preach nasty comments. You should have learned that by now.
Anyway…
“Conservatives’ Hate-Based Campaign Against Obama”
The right-wing smear campaign against Barack Obama has already begun. Conservatives intend, as they have so many times before, to appeal to Americans’ ugliest prejudices and most craven fears.
That’s laughable. This proctologist of liberalism at The American Prospect has had six months to address the Hill-Bill’s racist slander, and most RECENTLY, the comment from that old nappy dried up liberal hag Geriatric Ferraro’s comments that “If Obama were a white man, he wouldn’t be where he was today”.
By jm
March 29, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this
RW- Seven years ago, I was living in an enlightened state that allowed for alcohol sales on Sunday. The governor was also a republican. Then again, that state did not allow for full nudity at adult establishments, that I can visit on Sunday (and purchase alcohol).
BTW, since you were the one who brought party affiliation into this, did not Governor Perdue used to be a democrat?
By getalife
March 29, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this
Yeah, I was right. Baghdad is burning. Basra too along with other cities
I have posted they will get a free pass for their crimes like Nixon. Nobody has the guts to demand justice, their resignations and trials.
dick compared Iraq to the Nixon pardon.
Might as well open up the prisons since your party does not believe in the rule of law.
Liberty and justice for all?
Yeah, right. Thanks to your party, not anymore.
Stand proud of destroying your country losers.
You are pathetic.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
RW, please don’t confuse that confused liberal asshat “jm” with the facts. It will just make his liberal shrinking alcoholic brain hurt and throb more.
By Glenn
March 29, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
Good grief, people, we (including duh) hold such tight vigil on such matters that, if there were an actual racist haunting these blogidors, we’d have expelled the arsewhole by now. So the “Buckwheat” thing was unfortunate. OK, we get it. get’s right, we got bigger fish to fry.
Rufus, it may be a disease, but at least it’s progressive.
RW-(t.o.), wise caution, but there’s also precaution.
@@, didn’t you notice how, in the middle of my tumbling event, I executed a perfect flip right over the word “endorse” so as to keep a pastor’s cloth clean? Don’t you trust me to avoid getting you and our brothers and sisters out of real trouble, while getting you promptly into good trouble?
Yes, it is a dirty business. A damned dirty one, and way out of whack. But you can use that unbalance (OK, now we’re on the beam; whither the men’s events?), somewhat like what Wellstone did. You know? A take-down.
Your prospective constituency is plenty smart—-about many of the wrong things, but nonetheless, smart. That’s the whole plan, in a nutshell: to harness their smarts. The pastors will know it when they see it. And when they do, they won’t care that you were born with a melanin deficiency that’s made the world keep relatively clear of you and not want to fu@% with your $#!t. You might even pick up the sympathy vote…
It’s unfortunate about the lawn sign incident, and I get the portent. We’d just have to arrange back-up safehouses, and assign new identities to you and your family. NOT. Your neighbors—-even the ones you don’t know—-will quickly come to want to protect you, or else, frankly, you wouldn’t have any business running.
Run. Run. Nothing but good trouble. (That’s a fair campaign slogan already!)
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this
@RW,
You are seeing free market capitalism at work with the credit crisis, the Federal Reserve bailing out the banks, the mortgage foreclosure crisis spilling over into other parts of business, outsourcing of living-wage jobs, the Iraq invasion.
What is it, we don’t have enough of the free-market, trickle-down economics?
Are, do we need more tax cuts to fill the government coffers?
Come on USEFUL, seems like I am “drowning” in your lack of facts.
Do we need more of this to rebuild this country, or, is your one-size-fits-all strategy the only way to keep this ship from sinking.
Seems to me, that is what is in place now, don’t you think USEFUL?
By @@
March 29, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this
Do like I do, @@, stay as far away from any racial issue as possible. Don’t even THINK about race, unless you want be labeled a racist merely in thought.
I don’t Rufus. It was Martin Luther King who convinced me to think of a man/woman based solely on his character, and not his race, or lack thereof.
I think it was Momcat, who yesterday, scolded me, once again, for crossing over to vote Democrat in the primary. Hinted that I was one of those who voted for Obama in the primary but WOULD NEVER vote for him in the general.
I don’t know how she KNOWS that, or why she would even think that. She must know something about Obama that I don’t.
Obama is difficult to pin down on any given issue. I DO have a problem with that.
I don’t know how Obama can get this country beyond race, when the left will forever be calling everyone racists at the drop of a hat.
Oh well….
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this
Has anyone heard from that brilliant Michigan liberal RAT congressman who proposed a $.50/gal gas tax hike to “curb” CO2 emissions lately? What happened to that idiot? (MICHIGAN of all places to propose a gas tax hike on car owners - only a liberal RAT could possibly be that stupid).
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this
Hillary’s courage under fire caught on tape! What a woman!
What a pathological LIAR.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this
Happy ACLU day, San Diego!
No word yet from the KKK on whether it will celebrate it’s protection under the ACLU in San Diego.
(This really belongs in that FreakZone SanFranSicko formerly run by The Nannystate.
By Jackie
March 29, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this
@RW,
It is good having an open debate with folks like yourself.
You have a difficult time in standing in your own shoes and try to use statements that have no basis in fact to prove your arguments.
Because you utter a statement does not make it true; it only means that is your interpretation as we all know there is no infinity in anything, i.e., 100%.
That is why we have profound discussions because most of us have reasoned and well-intention arguments that are sometimes refuted with the facts.
Come on USEFUL, is there more that you would like to debate?
By jm
March 29, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this
What might those fact be Rufus? That the only thing that has changed about Governor Perdue is his party affiliation? It would be interesting to see how many of the current republicans in our state government used to be democrats. The jerseys have changed but the players remain the same.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
Global warming: Just deal with it, some scientists say.
No sh!t. We’ve been dealing with global warming AND global cooling since the beginning of time. Sounds good to me. Up your neo-communist fascist azzes, Al Gorebots and Kyoto.
By getalife
March 29, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
Obama played the race card but the issue was his radical preacher. His positions on the issues are about the same as Clintons but she does not have a radical preacher or play the race card.
By RW-(the original)
March 29, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this
did not Governor Perdue used to be a democrat?
Why yes, jm, he was so you’ve found his secret. Sonny has been personally responsible for all of Georgia’s laws forever. Good Job!
As someone who has lived here for much longer I’ve found it quite interesting that nobody cared about this outrage of not being able to buy packaged liquor on Sunday until there were Republicans to blame.
If your other state didn’t allow full nude dancing why are you calling that state enlightened and this one not. It sounds like pretty much a draw to me.
Jackie,
What you’re seeing is not free market capitalism because we have never really tried free market capitalism. I hardly think a small correction in housing rates or flippers getting caught with their pants down is a crisis. And families that bought a house with no money down and never made a payment being kicked out surely doesn’t mean that they should be bailed out by people that lived responsibly.
Glenn,
Precaution would be her running without you badgering her on this blog to do so.
By Glenn
March 29, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this
BadOleBoys, are you still interested in waving the Big One over who is and isn’t walking their talk?
@@, and if you think the lawn sign caused a ruckus, just wait till I post my dispatches on what’ll happen when I turn on all the lights for an hour at 8:00 tonight. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got to put the Xmas lights on the trees in the front yard. I’ll have to be extra careful in this rain.
See? Nothing but good trouble.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this
“What might those fact be Rufus?”
Oh gee, jm, Idunno, something like the FACT your little liberal pussass whined about Republican leadership, or in your words, “current nanny state government” not allowing Sunday booze sales while IGNORING that your beloved RATs had run it for a hundred maybe?
Don’t ever stop being hypocrites, liberals. I’d never have anything to blog against.
By getalife
March 29, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this
Obama’s speech about race led to one person to address this issue. Condi Rice’s comments were very good.
w is unveiling a plan to help home owners and Paulson wants regulations.
What is up with that? They sound like Obama and Clinton.
By RW-(the original)
March 29, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this
Jackie,
Debating you is more like throwing a tennis ball for a Golden Retriever, but I enjoyed it. It usually takes you moonbat(ic)s® a little longer to be reduced to that slobbering illiteracy you put forth at 5:54 though. You should work on that.
By Rufus
March 29, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this
The Queensland, Australia-based Carbon Sense Coalition today came out in support of “lights out” during Earth Hour (Saturday, March 30), but recommended the time should be renamed “Dark Hour” and suggested consumers also should forgo the consumption of gasoline and diesel during this period.
You fascist left wing eco-nazis can take your carbon credits, roll them up, and shove them where the light doesn’t shine. I’ll do whatever the hell I want to do with MY life and MY property and MY possessions. Any of you fascist liberals have a problem with that?
By AJC Management
March 30, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this
Thanks to the Urinal, now we get to know what it is like for an innocent Israeli trying to live in Sderot:
{{{{Fear whispers everywhere in Iraq!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bombardments pierce former safety of GI bases, bringing death at random!!!!!!!!!!!!!Shriek, shriek, scream, scream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-Urinal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!}}}}
Oh yeah, this is surely the second coming of the German Blitzgrieg, I’m so sure.
If the Iraqi army wasn’t in the lead against it’s former Shiite buddies from Iran, then the Americans wouldn’t be seeking shelter in their bases, now would they?
Duh.
The United States could wipe the Mahdi army from the face of the Earth, chase them all the way back to Tehran and then wipe it out too, but we prefer to let the fledgling Iraqi army use the Mahdi army for target practice.
I guess if we get too many pis-s pants AJC reporters screaming bloody murder and creating a false sense of Mahdi “superiority,” then maybe we just might have to bomb Iran, which I have no objections with.
Thanks for your help, Urinal, and keep up the good work.
{{{{U.S. jets widened strikes near the oil hub of Basra on Saturday, dropping two precision-guided bombs on a suspected militia stronghold north of the city, where militant followers of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr have fought Iraqi and coalition forces since Tuesday.-Urinal}}}}
OMG, they dropped one bomb yesterday and two bombs today, why, this war is spiraling out of control, waaaahhhhh!!!!!!!, CAN I HIDE IN YOUR BUNKER?!?!
See what I mean about creating a false impression? If the United States was leading this fight, you wouldn’t be able to count the number of bombs falling from the sky.
The liberals, panty waist traitors that they are, are using this controlled chaos, this test of Iraqi ability if you will, to paint this as some loss for the U.S.
But the larger picture, of course being completely ignored by the kowards at the Urinal, this is regular army Shiite killing extremist Shiite, with the Americans playing only a limited role. The benefits of this are enormous; It’s getting real hard to call the American’s “occupiers” when it is your fellow Shiites that are shooting and bombing you.
Now for the good news that the Urinal refuses to print:
{{{{While engaged with hostile forces, ISOF (Iraq Army) and a supporting U.S. Special Forces team identified additional armed criminal elements in the area. A supporting Coalition forces aircraft identified enemy forces on three roof-tops and engaged with precision gunfire after being cleared by ground forces. Initial reports indicate 16 criminal fighters were killed.}}}}
That^^ be a preview of the near future, Americans in a limited supporting role.
{{{{Baghdad Soldiers engaged and killed 11 criminals in separate engagements in Baghdad March 29. “Along with our Iraqi Security Force partners, we are targeting individual criminal networks and anyone involved in violent crimes against the Iraqi people,” said Col. Allen Batschelet, chief of staff, MND-B. “We will continue to conduct precision operations based on substantial evidence of criminal activity.”}}}}
Bwa.
~~~~~
Speaking of civil wars:
{{{{While Ku Klux Rodham campaigns for the Demokratic presidential nomination in neighborhoods where many have lost their homes in unscrupulous lending schemes, her campaign manager, Margaret “Maggie” Williams, sits on the board of one of the nation’s once-largest and now-bankrupt sub-prime mortgage lenders.}}}}
Aaaaahahahahaha, it gets better:
{{{{Williams joined the board of directors at New York-based Delta Financial Corporation in 2000, one month after a federal settlement was reached with Delta Financial over discriminatory lending practices.}}}}
So, to get their butts out of hot water with the World of Victims, they hired Maggie and wham, it comes right back around to bite Klintoon in the as-s.
Two points: A lot of good it did to help “discriminatory lending” by hiring Maggie, considering that a lot of minorities lost their houses and their credit after the lending was eased, and two, I’d like to know who sued Delta in the first place, was it someone extorting them with federal law, like Love Client #9 used to do?
We need to go down that trail.
~~~~~
Creating decisiveness in remembrance of a great man who fought to tear those barriers down:
{{{{While King was generous in his praise for those white religious leaders, including Jews and Roman Catholics, who supported the civil rights movement, he also harshly criticized white churchmen who did not. In a 1965 interview with Playboy magazine, he said:}}}}
{{{{“The white church … has greatly disappointed me. … As the Negro struggles against grave injustice, most white churchmen offer pious irrelevancies and sanctimonious trivialities. … White churchgoers, who insist that they are Christians, practice segregation as rigidly in the house of God as they do in movie houses. Too much of the white church is timid and ineffectual, and some of it is shrill in its defense of bigotry and prejudice.”-Queen Pinko, Urinal}}}}
Of course, no mention of the white demokrat U.S. Senate, which I’m sure “greatly disappointed” King too:
{{{{“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.”—Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D., Texas), 1957}}}}
Nope, this is a new day for hating on the church, sending segments of our society into their own separate corners, renewing the animosity and anger, some legacy, eh, Dr. King?
By AJC Management
March 30, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this
{{{{Mobile phones could kill far more people than smoking or asbestos, a study by an award-winning cancer expert has concluded. He says people should avoid using them wherever possible and that governments and the mobile phone industry must take “immediate steps” to reduce exposure to their radiation.}}}}
{{{{Earlier this year, the French government warned against the use of mobile phones, especially by children. Germany also advises its people to minimise handset use, and the European Environment Agency has called for exposures to be reduced.}}}}
Now maybe we can hang up the phone and drive, no?
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this
The evolution toward universal healthcare must include the mutations of tax-deductible, high-deductible policies, and health savings accounts. However, until the health insurance industry is extinct, americans will never be able to afford doctors, nurses, or drugs. If the sick could heal themselves, insurance lobbies would either make it illegal, or taxable. Similarly, if churches could hold reliably-efficient miracle healing services, then no church would be tax-exempt.
Why is there a middle man between patient and doctor? What possible reason could there be? What is the history of the insurance lobby? Is it as simple as the opportunity provided when snake-oil and witch doctors poisoned the population, and something had to be done? Are the snake-oil salemen the founding fathers of the healthcare industry?
If the sick cant seek treatment then what is healthcare? How do you define healthcare if the sick are disenfranchised by legislative tithing to capitalism’s ingenuity?
Abolish insurance, and let doctors treat patients, and make the sick pay our doctors as much as the collateral damage in baghdad pay our doctors.
Entitlements and endowments are two different words. We are endowed by our creator. Insurance is entitled by our legislature.
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
If I may be so pedantic.
By Tom Pain
March 30, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
There’s this guy that lives on Lake Lanier. He runs a business that is located in White County but registered in Hall County. He “recycles” human waste and grease trap contents. He takes a portion of these items that are primarily a low viscosity liquid and applies them through a sprinkler system onto the ground. He does other things with other parts of this stuff that gets hauled into White County from all sorts of different places. There’s a creek along this property that flows back into Hall County and on into Lake Lanier where he lives. Now this property in White County is HIS property and it is HIS to do with as HE wants and just to make sure of that OUR state senators (ask Cagle, he knows) and legislators passed bills to basically give him more rights than a sewage treatment plant has with regards to oversight, regulation or even testing. Is this the sort of freedom that Rufus is touting? Visit www.ngass.com to learn more. I did. It was enlightening. Also, check out the letters to the editor at www.whitecountynews.net. Read about “As The Toilet Flushes…”. I never would have dreamed so much could go on for so long right under our very noses. You just need to know the right people I guess — in government, that is.
By jbmlaw
March 30, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this
Dear William Hunter @ 8:42, well argued, please, pedant on.
By jbmlaw
March 30, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
Dear Tom @ 9:08, while you validly argue a problem, you err in your conclusion. The problem is that the government IS acting; but for the government action, you and every other injured party would have a common law action for nuisance.
By W
March 30, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
My fellow followers,
It has come to my attention that some of our questionably loyal believers in Gwinnett County are going to be hearing a pastor apologize for past things said against gays and living out of wedlock and that other unmentionable thing that rhymes with abornson (You know what I’m talking about and we don’t tolerate killing.). So, my fellow followers, if you happen to be riding through Sugar Hill and pass by this place, cover your ears if need be.
Thank You, Your Leader, W
P.S. Some of you are still way behind on your war tax payments. Wars cost money. Lots of money. {{{{{You}}}}} know who I’m talking about.
By WFC
March 30, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
When I read this blog (with a few exceptions) I cringe for the future of democracy.
By AJC Management
March 30, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
{{{{He sloppily compared Wright’s virulent anti-Americanism with his grandmother’s private expressions of racial prejudice in a way that makes them seem equally guilty. He complained repeatedly, including on Friday on ABC’s “The View,” that the profane, inflammatory remarks captured on video clips are a mere “snippet” of Wright’s many sermons.}}}}
{{{{“People are a mix of good and bad,” he said, and added, “I feel badly he’s been characterized in this way and people haven’t seen the broader aspect of him.”}}}}
{{{{What “broader aspect” offsets such hate and lunacy? With new examples emerging of anti-Semitic writings in the bulletin put out by Wright’s church, there is no mitigating context.}}}}
Tax that.
By AJC Management
March 30, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
{{{{Until, that is, last week, when for the first time since Saddam’s overthrow, the Iraqi government made what could prove to be the historic decision to assert its authority by laying down a direct challenge to the lawless militia groups that have turned large swathes of Iraq’s second city into a no-go zone. In military terms, Basra has been a confrontation waiting to happen since British troops withdrew from the city centre to the air base last September.}}}}
{{{{The activities of the Iraqi kidnap gangs in Basra, which almost daily abduct victims at will for either financial gain or political advantage, was one of the many issues General Mohan told me he was keen to confront as soon as he had the manpower available to deal with the militias.}}}}
{{{{“The lawlessness in Basra is an insult to the Iraqi people and an insult to the Iraqi government. It simply cannot be tolerated,” he said.}}}}
Like I was saying:
{{{{Most of the Iraqi forces now attempting to ensure that the rule of law, rather that the law of the gun, prevails in Basra have been trained by the British military, which is providing air and artillery support for the Iraqi government cause.}}}}
{{{{For the battle for Basra is a test of both the Iraqi government’s legitimacy and virility. If General Mohan and his colleagues can prevail over the militias who pose the greatest threat to Iraq’s survival as a democratic entity, the Iraqi people can look forward to taking charge of their own destiny - and the coalition’s troops can start planning their withdrawal in the knowledge that their mission has been successfully accomplished.}}}}
Endgame.
By Tom Pain
March 30, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw,
I did not claim to be an injured party. I read about the injured parties. How much did you read? Did you follow the story back to its “roots” when the county first attempted to exercise some control? Did you review the original legislation introduced by Cagle many years back when he was a senator? Have you called the injured parties and offered your services? How about some pro bono? I bet they would really appreciate it. Don’t you? I don’t have the expertise these people need other than a vote that I WILL use against every Incumbent Republican in our fair state. Shame on them all for this is a matter of plain old common sense and they have all let us down. By the way, I wonder if the Talmo mess would have happened were it not for the “excellent work” of our elected officials.
By the way jbmlaw, thanks for taking the time to respond. That’s more than many have done. If you want to do some good, think about the people that were/are directly affected — not me. I’m just trying to serve as a messenger.
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
Put your own pants on, jbmlaw. Now I’m mad and furthermore….what? jbmlaw said “pedant on” using a noun like a gerund only without the ing?
Oh. that’s different. nevermind.
abolish health insurance. Health Insurance. Now I’m mad again, and furthermore, some doctors are in cahoots with the drug companies, and some of the chemical hybrids are dangerous to us all… what? without chemicals, the baby boomers would have never had sunshine acid and woodstock would have been a drag? oh, that’s different….nevermind.
By AJC Management
March 30, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
The naivity of the koward kandidates on full display:
{{{{“I don’t want to suggest I’ve absorbed all of the facts,” about the situation in Basra, Mr. Obama said. But, he continued, what he had heard “appears consistent with my general analysis. The presence of our troops and their excellence has resulted in some reduction in violence. It has not resolved the underlying tensions that exist in Iraq.”}}}}
{{{{Denis McDonough, a senior foreign policy adviser to Mr. Obama, said the situation in Basra “does raise a handful of concerns as it relates to the surge and, more importantly, about the prospect of political reconciliation.”}}}}
When did we “surge” into Basra?
{{{{Mr. Obama’s opponent for the Democratic nomination, Senator Ku Klux Rodham of New York, did not directly address the Basra situation on Saturday and instead kept the focus on economic issues. But aides to both candidates said the fighting there raised troubling questions about whether the troop buildup was making the country more stable.}}}}
So, how do you say it, clueless?
Do the dimokrats think we are fighting a resurgence of al Qaeda in Basra?
Or are they purposefully anti America propagating?
Which one is it?
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
Cia Director on meet the press. dont post if you miss this.
By Stumpin
March 30, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
Way back in the days before legalized education folks had to learn how to take care of themselves or else they just didn’t live very long or very healthy lives. People learned the way of the Indian for example. They learned which tree bark to chew for pain relief. They learned what plant leaf to eat when in need of a laxative. They even learned to cauterize a wound. Given the prices of medicines, doctors, hospitals, insurance companies, etc., we may not have much choice but to re-learn some of the earlier ways. Either that or build more Wal-Marts — $4 prescriptions and low cost clinics. What more could one ask for.
By ?
March 30, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
AJC Management
Do you desperately want your own column so you blog to yourself when other people are pursuing a normal life on a Sunday morning? I won’t be here to read your response. I have a life to live.
By AJC Management
March 30, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
Even the Treason Times has to admit it:
{{{{Major Holloway said that British and American planes had been conducting surveillance runs over Basra since the fighting began to support the Iraqi military, but that this was the first time they had entered active fighting. “I think the point here is actually that the Iraqis are capable, they are strong and they have been engaging successfully,” Major Holloway said.}}}}
{{{{The official said that British and American aircraft were providing aerial support and that a small number of American ground troops had also entered Basra for the first time in years, mainly to monitor the performance of Iraqi forces.}}}}
{{{{The United States military has liaisons and trainers with the Iraqi forces, though the exact number was not made clear. The officer said that the American troops’ main contribution was to communicate and coordinate operations, including providing intelligence and calling the airstrikes, as happened Thursday night and again on Friday.}}}}
{{{{Mr. Bush’s national security adviser, Stephen J. Hadley, said the United States had known of the Basra operation in advance, suggesting a good deal of coordination between the United States and Iraq.}}}}
{{{{Despite rising concern over the violence, one senior administration official suggested that the operation in Basra reflected a model of future operations. The official cited the strategy outlined by Gen. David H. Petraeus to reduce the American presence in Iraq, eventually, to a limited role supporting Iraqi forces without being involved in day-to-day operations to protect the Iraqi public. In testimony to Congress in September, General Petraeus called that phase of operations “overwatch.”}}}}
{{{{“This is what overwatch looks like,” the official said, referring to the American role in Basra so far.}}}}
You heard it here first and I ain’t talking about the wormy AJC.
They can’t hide the truth anymore.
Watch the end of this war unfold before your very eyes.
Bwa.
By !
March 30, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
AJC Management Do you desperately want your own column so you blog to yourself when other people are pursuing a normal life on a Sunday morning? I won’t be here to read your response. I have a life to live.
Sure you do, Q. You know you can’t stay away from words of wisdom slamming liberalism, and you also know you can’t eat or sleep without knowing what some conservative posts on a blog by conservatives for conservative thought. The bigger question is who cares what you pantywaste wingnuts on the nut left think.
By jbmlaw
March 30, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. Had a revelation during the sermon this morning, had to share it. Barack Obama’s entire campaign is based on a lie. Our sermon was a traditional, strictly apolitical post-Easter “hope where there was hopelessness,” a discussion of the change offered man by Christ. Yet, the contrast with Obama’s promises of “hope” and “change” could not be more striking. Our hand-wringing dithering leftists look at Iraq and see an unstoppable movement of murderers and terrorists, and the only potentiality for America is to cut and run and duck and cover. Hope, and change offered. Almost comic compared to the sound conservative perspective, that we have the Islamists on the ropes, about to destroy that movement of murderers and terrorists. Only Orwellian double-speak would allow one to affirm that “hope” and “change” would be to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
By AmVet
March 30, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
WFC, I can understand why you would feel that way.
The more shrill antagonists here (think curly brackets{{{}}} and Dufus) use this forum to vent their boundless frustrations at their perceived and imaginary enemies.
And like the bungler-in-chief, they even have a few cheerleaders themselves.
But precious little more.
Notwithstanding VERY odd claims about imparting “wisdom”!
So the emasculated faux conservatives harangue and vomit up endless daily diatribes, to be sure. But obviously are not in ANY regard taken seriously by the majority of the participants here - a supposedly “conservative” blog.
And it is helpful to realize that the symptoms of the now impotent neo-conservatives and their band of always present and enraged lunatic fringe brothers have no bearing on the outcomes that they so desperately wish they could change.
But it sure is great entertainment to watch.
Pick a subject and you’ll see what I mean…
By jbmlaw
March 30, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
Dear Tom @ 9:49, I think you misread my argument. You are correct, there is injury, and the injury exists only to aid and comfort provided by the government. You, and anyone drinking from water that receives the run-off, suffer injury. Everyone ought to be bringing a nuisance suit againt your polluter buddy. I am not hostile to your argument and observation, but I think you have the wrong cure in mind.
By jbmlaw
March 30, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
Dear AmVet @ 10:57, I notice you could not sustain your capacity to form argument, too bad.
Dear Tom, I accidentally omitted “due” following the “only” in my previous post, apologies for sloppy draftsmanship.
By jbmlaw
March 30, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
Dear AJC Management, I think you were first to argue that it would be the case: Mookie is suing for peace, the Iraqi army is wiping ‘em out. Good call.
By Tom Pain
March 30, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw,
I am no lawyer but the way I see things is that injury may exist on many different levels. The people being directly affected by this activity should be able to file a suit claiming nuisance. If you have taken the time to read any of the available information, they may even eventually be able to go after someone for something “stronger”. I personally hope for something along the lines of negligence or worse. Did you read the White County New article? That sure sounds a lot like exposure to a chlorine-containing cloud. I’ve got to go now. Otherwise, I would be glad to continue the posts. Please call these people or e-mail them. Learn more. Take action for their sake as well as ours.
Thanks
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
Okay, CIA chief Hadyen spoke about the Battle of Basra on Meet the Press. He opened with his assurance that Iraq will be better after Basra than before Basra. He identified the enemy as a “stew” of armed gangs, criminal elements and militia. Hayden insists that he’s known all along that Basra had to be captured before any Iraqi Democratic Republic could emerge.
He also admitted that he doesn’t know why Iraq acted alone in a surprise attack on Basra. He didn’t mention how intel about Sadr using the 8-month-long cease fire to hide military buildups and defensive works could have provoked the attack. He dodged any association between Sadr’s publicized cease-fire motive as preventing civil war and his long stay in Iran.
This is what I’ve been saying all along, now I’m mad, W has ruined……what? A news report has just appeared that claims Sadr has ordered another cease fire in Basra today, March 30th, 2008?
If that report is true, then that’s different……nevermind.
support the troops. vote 4 mccain
By Uncle Albert
March 30, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this
Did anyone catch the ABC roundtable?
Kerry is a doofus.
Lieberman should be the next president.
By AmVet
March 30, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this
Cheerleading counselor, excellent argument-supported response!
We know how it irks you when I, in particular, lampoon one of your politically joined-at-the-hip miscreants.
Save it for the choir.
And heal thyself non-physician.
And what’s this?
Another big, bigger, biggest government ever socialist continuing the legacy of the Reaganistas?
What the hell happened to the idea of letting the market rape and plunder at will, er, I mean, police itself?
Bush Seeks Financial Regulation Overhaul
WASHINGTON — The Bush administration is proposing a sweeping overhaul of the way the government regulates the nation’s financial services industry from banks and securities firms to mortgage brokers and insurance companies.
The plan would give major new powers to the Federal Reserve, according to a 22-page executive summary obtained by The Associated Press.
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
Jbmlaw, you really stick your neck out when you point out how short Obama falls in a comparison with the Christ. You may throw my name in that well, sir. But not yours. You achieve what the Christ could never have produced: both Divinity and Government bound by court legislation.
You would make an excellent debater, but a much better Christ.
I’m just a voice in the blogging wilderness heralding your arrival. I sure hope Glenn isn’t Salome…..
By AJC Management
March 30, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Well, well, Mookie is smarter than I thought:
{{{{Al-Sadr: Drop Your Guns- Iraqi government welcomes order from Shiite cleric for those loyal to him and Mahdi Army to leave streets of Basra and drop arms against Iraqi forces}}}}
Make no mistake about it, this is the end.
This is no 6 month “ceasefire,” there is no “biding their time” against the Americans, the Mahdi army’s little test drive against the Iraqi Security Force crashed and freaking burned.
The Iraqi army will only grow stronger from this decisive victory, become more determined and more courageous, bless their little hearts.
And most importantly, less dependent upon the Americans for the security of their citizens.
God Bless You George W Bush for your unwavering determination to see this mission through against all odds, you never lost faith in the greatest country or the bravest soldiers in the world, like so many others have.
To be sure, al Qaeda will still kill innocent people, as they do in any Islamic country that they infest, but they are doomed to fail in their bid to enslave the people of Iraq.
Maybe, with luck, they will get the prize behind door number two, a free trip to those “virgins” in “paradise.”
By jbmlaw
March 30, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
Dear William @ 11:34, I respectfully think you misread. Truth is immutable, but is not the exclusive possession of Christ. However, the truth of Christ certainly can expose lies elsewhere, if one is willing to notice.
By jbmlaw
March 30, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this
Dear AmVet @ 11:33, I notice you could not sustain your capacity to form argument, too bad.
By AJC Management
March 30, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
Oh, and by the way, for a answer to the long standing question on these blogs, “what does victory in Iraq look like.”
Look upon it and see for yourself.
By Uncle Albert
March 30, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
AJCM, they don’t want to acknowledge any of that. 60 min. is going to have a nice little piece tonight again trying to “support” the troops.
By AJC Management
March 30, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
Everyone should go out and buy the litter box liner version of the Urinal, take the front page, frame it and display it in some prominent place, like I’m going to.
On the very day that America won the war in Iraq, the libs had some spineless surrender monkey piece on their front page that portrayed American soldiers as cowering in fear, hiding inside their bunkers.
So freaking classic.
And as for the sentiments of a lot of you on these blogs, that I have argued against so vehemently over the years, I believe that the time has arrived for us to finally agree;
Bring the troops home.
Not in shameful defeat but in glorious victory.
Greet them at the airports, organize parades for them through center of your town, set a day aside every year, a national holiday, to honor their great achievement.
And above all give thanks, praise and prayers for the tremendous sacrifices that they have made for all of us and for the free, peace loving people of Iraq.
God Bless every one of them.
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
I think you misread, jbmlaw. That’s exactly what you did: compare Obama’s message to Christ’s.
Then you said, “I did not”.
Now, I’m saying “Did too”.
I wont wait for your reply, which will almost certainly be, “Did not”
“Did too”
“Not”
“TOO”
Not. 2. Not. 2. not.2.not.2.not.2.not
congratulations, we’re both morons.
By AmVet
March 30, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
Counselor, I noticed the other day though, that the first tiny crack appeared in your “conservative” armor, as you timidly acknowledged that that term has been hijacked and used almost scandalously by the “faithful” for a long time now.
To that end, what do you attribute the ongoing a*-whipping you “conservative” Republicans are receiving since the last election?
And almost certainly will see again in November.
The President’s numbers are so low as to be beyond historical comparison to any other US President. EVER. And apparently a majority of the people who voted for him, now rue that decision!
So there can no longer be any real doubt that this will almost assuredly rank as the worst administration in American history.
Here are a few topics that await your always lucid “analysis” and explanation.
The botched and deadly occupation?
Cooking the books/intentionally deceiving the American public to justify the invasion?
Letting OBL get away in Tora Bora?
Tacitly supporting torture?
Gitmo?
Watering down habeus corpus?
Reagan-like bloating of the size, reach and cost of unnecessary government?
Religiosity run amok?
The rape of the middle class by the plutocrats and K Street money?
Back-room, closed door “energy policy” meetings?
Ever expanding corporate welfare?
Illegal immigration?
Heretofore unforeseen levels of corruption and endless scandals?
Rewarding pollution and the lack of even a semblance of good stewardship?
Politicizing science when it is not favorable to policy?
Taking years to admit man-induced global warming is real?
Hubris on a inconceivable scale (even by political standards) as evidenced by failing to admit even a single mistake for years on end?
An inability to build a coalition of allies but in the most meaningless terms?
Or the ever popular, you weren’t “conservative” enough?
In summary, don’t you faux conservatives have such an incredible amount of damage control to tend to that you really don’t have much time to point fingers?
I truly am interested in how one of the self-proclaimed “conservatives” perceives this…
By Uncle Albert
March 30, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
Good amvet. good for you. (i want links and convictions to all your assumptions)
we’ll get a bunch of left wing loonies in office to fix it.
GFY (and that is a “good for you”)
I can’t wait.
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
Anyone else notice that 99% of jbmlaw’s comments read like this: “You misread my intention, I didn’t mean that at all” or “That’s a incorrect reading of my comment”
Nobody understands JBMLAW’s comments. Day after day, most of his comments get misunderstood.
I implore the readers of this blog to read JMBLAW more carefully so as not to misread his intended message.
By TW
March 30, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
Alas, with the Sadr dominoe wavering in what is now widely accepted as Republican Bush’s abortion of a war, is it now time to load up for Iran? Yes, with the puppet shiite no longer much of a middle man, let us bring in John McCain for the next stage of our imperialism. After all, those 4000 dead were just the green plastic soldiers that come in bags of fifty at the toy store, right? RIGHT? YOUR DOIN’ A HECK OF A JOB, BUSHY!!
McCain ‘08 - because ‘w’ can’t run again
BRING BACK THE DRAFT - LET’S GET IRAN
Meanwhile, bin laden pulls another bag of pocorn from his cave microwave, and begins to pen his next round of thank-you notes to the republican morons who, without even having to ask, have brought him a return on 9/11 beyond his wildest dreams.
Who needs al qaeda when you’ve got the republicans???
By AmVet
March 30, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
Fat Albert, apparently that laundry list struck a raw nerve with you.
I gather the last option in that list is your “explanation”.
Let’s try again as we take a look at the GOP’s latest slate of “conservative” Presidential candidates:
Sen. Sam Brownback _ Ks.
Rep. Duncan Hunter - Ca.
Rep. Tom Tancredo - Co.
Fred Thompson - Hollywood
Gov. Mike Huckabee - Ar.
Mitt Romney - Ma.
Rudy Guiliani - NY
What do all of these “conservatives” have in common? Besides failure.
All were summarily embarrassed at the hands of a moderate RINO who was once given up for dead. And who is unquestionably despised by both the Rovian power-brokers in Washington and the “base”/”faithful”/”social conservatives” in the once Grand Old Party.
And even a loony libertarian got MUCH more traction than any of these so-called conservative Republicans!
Why is that?
How is that even possible?
What the hades is going on here?
I’d really love to hear one of the Republicans here elucidate us all.
Conservatives untie!
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
Did duhng just declare mission accomplished? Major combat operations in Basra have concluded. There’s still alot of HARD WORK ahead, but we can now rely on the alliance in the war on terror with a free and democratic self sustaining, self governing, and independent Iraq.
Great. Who woulda thought? Wow. I guess I was all wet. My bad, I apologize formally to the Right, including Mr Wooten, Duhng, Glenn, and JBMlaw and dusty and @@. I dont know what happened to me, although in my defense I did have a bout with post-Grenada guilt in the 80’s. Then I grappled with the savings and loan bailout blues. But what really unhinged me was when Nixon died and they blacked-out 18 minutes of Bob Dole’s eulogy.
But, with your support, I’ll support the troops, and together we can win the white house for McCain/Rice!!
By AmVet
March 30, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
From the truth is funnier than fiction file!
Missing NY Rev. Found at Ohio Strip Club
RIVERSIDE, Ohio — Police say a pastor who was reported missing from his home in western New York has been found at an Ohio strip club.
A police officer patrolling the K.C. Lounge parking lot Friday morning in the Dayton suburb of Riverside spotted out-of-state license plates on 46-year-old Craig Rhodenizer’s car.
The FBI and New York authorities had been searching for Rhodenizer, who disappeared Wednesday after telling his wife he was getting his computer fixed at Best Buy. He is the pastor of a church in Lyndonville, N.Y.
Detective Matt Sturgeon said Rhodenizer was disoriented when confronted by police and said he felt “emotionally guilty.”
By Uncle Albert
March 30, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
i guess the pastor was running for pres. also amvet?
wow, i’m overwhelmed at the evidence you have supplied supporting your facts @12:38. bravo.
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
Nascar!
By RW-(the original)
March 30, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
Delegate count
Romney 272
Huckabee 270
Loony Libertarian 12
By jbmlaw
March 30, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
Dear William @ 12:35, you err. If you re-read your 11:34, you allege that I compare Obama to Christ, an inaccurate if not intentionally false statement. Here @ 12:35, you get it right, that I called Obama’s message false. And you leave untouched the heart of my argument, that Obama has a false message. I would gratefully receive a counter-arguement (as opposed to a mere contradiction.) My reasoning is in my argument. “Moron” is the sort of epithet we expect from leftists, and your other posts suggest you have greater capacity than that.
Dear AmVet @ 12:38, I don’t know where you have been, but I have been complaining about faux-conservatives from the beginning of the blog. Timid, indeed. Pay attention. As to your silly “we have 50% + 1” argument, I “attribute” that to Lincoln’s aphorism about “all of the people.” Would you agree that “the People” seemingly regret their decision on Congress even more than their decision of President Bush, as your entire evidence is “poll” numbers? Each one of your “topics” is built on your own falsity or on a misguided effort by Republicans to co-operate with democrats, as I document here daily. Pick one each day for the next month, and let us argue it. After one month you will tuck tail and run, that is, act like a democrat. And as to your 1:15 “argument” I assume you are unfamiliar with Nash equilibrium.
Just to ensure you and William do not continue to avoid the argument that has inflamed you so, here is a reminder: Barack Obama’s entire campaign is based on a lie. Our sermon was a traditional, strictly apolitical post-Easter “hope where there was hopelessness,” a discussion of the change offered man by Christ. Yet, the contrast with Obama’s promises of “hope” and “change” could not be more striking. Our hand-wringing dithering leftists look at Iraq and see an unstoppable movement of murderers and terrorists, and the only potentiality for America is to cut and run and duck and cover. Hope, and change offered. Almost comic compared to the sound conservative perspective, that we have the Islamists on the ropes, about to destroy that movement of murderers and terrorists. Only Orwellian double-speak would allow one to affirm that “hope” and “change” would be to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
By jbmlaw
March 30, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Dear William and AmVet, lest the core of my argument go past you, all I seek is “what hope does Barack offer regarding the Islamists?” “What change does he promise, and what will be the consequences of that change?” I assert he offers a message of hopelessness, and that his change is a cowardly “duck and cover.”
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
blog leadership count*: RW 100% JBMLAW 100% GLENN 100%
totals are more than 100% because of rounding
You know, the problem with theleftist liberal commie scum in the USA is that they’re not fully grasping how flimsy their platform is this time around. CIA chief Hayden admitted that Bin Laden is training new operatives that “would not draw attention” at any US airport, that is, “western looking” terrorists.
If we cut and run from Iraq, then Bin Laden and his terrorists will do 911 all over again. Hillary and Obama are simply promising something they cant possibly deliver: the end of the iraq war.
Saddam was actively marketing his nuclear ambitions. It really didn’t matter that he wasn’t past the design stage, the fact is that he was relatively young, and had a good twenty years left to pursue the briefcase nuke that could have annihilated NYcity.
The astonishing fact is that by being a bungler, Bush may have stumbled into the exact formula to save the globe from a terrorist uprising not seen since the vikings sacked europe.
If liberals are as open minded as they seem to be, then they are duty-bound to admit that the possibility of Bush correctness on Iraq exists, in fact it’s likely the truth.
3 trillion dollars for war may have saved civilization. that’s cheap, my friends, we could borrow some money from our dads, and with a couple of other guys make it a boat race.
i’m saying that we were wrong, or right, but the sad fact is we dont know if we are wrong or right and THAT’S why Bush deserves the benefit of the doubt about war.
If you look at history, war always brought progress, human advancement, and the benefits of blending cultures.
So lets embrace the middle east, and take from it the best and give back our best and save the world.
To sum up: War-gods good. Surrender monkey’s-bad.
Be Good. Support McCain in 08, and let the surrender monkeys play in their own baby poop.
By AmVet
March 30, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
Fatty, right back at ya!
Then lets all just acknowledge the obvious, shall we?
In spite of some of the “conservative” candidates innumerable references to the holy of holies, there is no Ronnie on a White Horse to come and save the despicable Bush Republicans this time.
No Newt. (He’s apparently had a non-conservative epiphany)
Nobody.
And the reality is, even if the neo-cons could raise the ghost of Ronnie, the American electorate is not going to fall for that idiotic “conservative” pablum again.
(Excluding significant portions here in the Moron Belt.)
They’ve seen enough of a Republican Party that is an embarrassment to the traditions of Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower.
And now we find ourselves with a presumptive Republican nominee who is as different from these incompetent “conservatives” as could possibly be.
What a hoot.
Thirty years of abject failures culminating with Mr. Magoo as the commander-in-chief and the son of Spiro Agnew as his sidekick, kind of reduces an ideology’s credibility, doesn’t it “conservatives”?
Republican Bloodbath, Part Deux. Coming to an election near you this November.
Pray for rain…
By getalife
March 30, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
“Bill Clinton is being introduced now. The buzz in the room is palpable. Chairman Art Torres: “The man I’m about to introduce needs no introduction.”
“The country was far better off, the world was far better off when he was president.”
The place is on their feet, Hillary signs everywhere.”
“A special thanks to those of you who are suppoting Hillary. I appreciate the signs.”
“I want to get something out of the way. This has been an utterly amazing election year…And there’s a reason there’s been all this energy. The American people know that the country needs to change…There is somehow the suggestion that because we’re having a vigorous debate we’re going to hurt the future of the Democratic Party…In June 1992 when I won the primary I had been so beaten up I was running third and Ross Perot was in first place. 6 weeks later at the convention Al Gore and I were in first place in polls and we never lost it…Vigorous debate was a blessing in disguise…Chill out and we’re going to win in November.”
Heh. Yes, he told us all to “chill out.”
“We can win this election if we just let this thing play out, join hands and come together and tell America we want to change the future of the country.”
Clinton is speaking on the foreclosure crisis and the economy.
“How many times do we have to prove it? Trickle down economics is a failure!…We need to put it in the trash heap of history forever.”
“We need shared opportunity, shared prosperity and shared responsibility…We have kids in Iraq and Afghanistan and they started throwing tax cuts at me…It was wrong.”
“Raise your hand if you know someone without health insurance.” Probably just under 50% raised their hand. “This is the only western civilized world where you would get that answer. It’s the only country where it would even be asked.”
Bill is now explaining Hillary’s healthcare plan and arguing why it is better than Barack’s. “We need to cover everyone…The only way we can control costs is if we cover everyone.”
“If you’re tired of making excuses for not doing this and you want affordable quality healthcare I hope you’ll support Hillary.”
God bless America!
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
Of course Obama’s message is a lie. Of course Obama will say anything to get elected. So did Hitler. So did Mussolini. So did Taras Bulbar.
Political campaigns are lies. they have 2B. Mondale was the last candidate not to lie. he won minnesota.
JBMLAW is 100% correct in his insight at church that Obama’s message is a lie. JBMLAW is 100% correct when he also recognizes that Obama’s Message falls short of Christ’s message.
I was merely teasing you about the comparison of christ to obama. I think Hillary’s campaign falls short of christ’s ministry. There, Jbmlaw, feel better now?
Nobody’s out to get you JBMLAW. We all welcome your religious insights, and any paralells you can draw from this campaign to the life of our savior is solid gold. Maybe teasing is crude, and I apologize for not being a gentleman.
And i dont believe anyone who says that because you like to stick to the semantical integrity of your original post when you debate others who seem to stray non-sequiturily (ouch) and twist your words, that you are not in reality @@ or Dusty, who also seem overly-sensitive to replies that dont respect her original content.
Jbmlaw is not @@!!
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this
No argument about Obama, JBMLAW. You may be correct. Your question is very ambitious though, isn’t it? I mean, the answer would require an historical grasp of campaign platform science and would take hours to write. Obama is playing politics and letting the polls fine tune the message. McCain, however, is ignoring polls and saying what he believes: that al queda and iran are strange bedfellows. I dont think al queda will turn down any support from any quarter, so mccain may be right.
The point is that you should know better than to compare any message to christ’s message and then not expect me to tease you. You’re the best debater on the blog, so dont be so sensitive.
Obama offers Islamists the hope that if they can hold out till he gets elected and cuts and runs they can destroy america with 911s.
Obama’s change is entitlements and high taxes the consequence of which will stunt growth in USA.
I see the light now like St Paul did thanx to you and your vision in church today, JBMLAW!
By AmVet
March 30, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this
For the life of me I cannot understand the timidity with which you “conservatives” are showing your support for Senator Clinton.
I really can’t.
Mann Coulter, a REAL “conservative” doesn’t mince words.
Like you phonies.
“If he’s our candidate, then Hillary’s going to be our girl,” Coulter asserted. “Because she’s more conservative than he is. I think she would be stronger on the war on terrorism. … I absolutely believe that. … I will campaign for her if it’s McCain.”
Coulter went on to enumerate the areas in which she finds Clinton preferable to McCain, saying, “He has led the fight against — well, as you say, interrogations, I say torture — at Guantanamo. She hasn’t done that.”
“He did support the war,” objected Hannity.
(Wimp).
“So did Hillary,” Coulter shot back, dismissing Hannity’s suggestion that Clinton has promised to begin withdrawing troops from Iraq. “When George Bush said at the State of the Union Address that the surge is working in Iraq, Obama sat on his hands, Kennedy sat on his hands — Hillary leaped up and applauded.”
“She lies less than John McCain,” Coulter continued. “She’s smarter than John McCain, so that when she’s caught shamelessly lying, at least the Clintons know they’ve been caught lying. McCain is so stupid he doesn’t even know when he’s been caught.”
“John McCain is not only bad for Republicans,” concluded Coulter, “he is very, very bad for the country.”
By GaLiberal
March 30, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
Moron Jim says: Republicans in Atlanta are behaving just like Democrats in Congress — playing silly, pointless games in an effort to gain political advantage. Congress, for example, repeatedly sends President Bush legislation to hugely expand the federal arm of Georgia’s PeachCare program, knowing he’ll veto it. So they extend it a few months and, when it’s deemed most advantageous to Democrats, they pass it again.
What Moron Jim doesn’t tell you is that it’s not just the Democrats in Congress passing this legislation. In order for these laws to pass the Senate, Rethuglicons also have to vote for the bill. They go along knowing that Bush will just use his veto to override the will of the majority. Then, these same Rethuglicons will sustain Bush’s veto. It’s the Rethuglicons that’s playing games. Moron Jim is just another Rethuglicon bootlicking liar.
Another thing that Moron Jim doesn’t tell you is the Rethuglicons in the GA legislature are just pandering with their election-year tax cut. The most irresponsible move considering tax revenues are falling (thanks to Bush’s hamfisted economic policies) meaning GA will have to tap the state surplus. Typical Rethuglicon thinking.
When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And the GA legislature is living proof.
By AmVet
March 30, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
Seriously, why wouldn’t Mann want Hillary in the White Hose for four years?
Think of it!
She and the other oracles could have a veritable field day with their endless self-righteous gnashing of teeth and increased popularity ratings.
REAL “conservatives” putting themselves and their careers before the nation’s best interests.
Shocking…
By getalife
March 30, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. 2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government. 3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had 4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades. 5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man. 6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama. 7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office. 8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book). 9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language. 10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons. 11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies. 12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine. 13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist. 14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist. 15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first. 16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES. 17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote. 18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE. 19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE. 20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn’t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it. 21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish. 22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came. 23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within. 24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books. 25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill. 26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part. 27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office. 28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them. 29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel. 30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially. 31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost. 32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn’t. 33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not. 34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide. 35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time. 36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself. 37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this. 38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you. 39.) I Don’t Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it. 40.) I don’t Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting. 41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon. 42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients. 43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people’s words. 44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities. 45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN. 46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it. 47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent. 48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won’t wear a flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem. 49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America. 50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart. 51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company - LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records. 52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair - LIAR, your wife’s pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%! 53.)I Barely Know Rezko - Only 5 Billed Hours - LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko’s wife buys the lot beside it that you can’t afford, saving you $625,000. 54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly - LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko (first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught lying again $150K and now caught lying YET AGAIN OBAMA, it’s $250k) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns. 55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year. 56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama. 57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko - LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him. 58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube - LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.” 59.) The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me! - LIAR. Your own Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor is the CEO of the company that looked into your records. PS - You had them look into yours to hide the fact you looked into Clinton’s and McCain’s more than a year before! 60.) Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning - LIAR. Rev. Meeks appeared in ads for your Senate Campaign, donated to you, and helped raise money, then AND NOW. PS - He also seems to despise America. 61.) My wife didn’t mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase - LIAR. Again, MicHELLe’s comments perfectly sync with Wright’s, Meeks’, and Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction. 62.) I am very Anti-Terror - LIAR. One of your good pals is long time radical and terrorist William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed khalidi, Professor at Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for Palestinian terrorism attacks against Israel. PS - Your church published a pro Hamas Manifesto - guess you weren’t there on THAT Sunday either? How lucky for you. 63.) I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis - LIAR. You and your campaign buddy Penny SubPrime Bank Collapse Prizker have had your little fingers full of subprime cash - Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from Lehman, $5395 from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600 from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from Centex, and last but certainly NOT LEAST - Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. I am sure that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a dream, eh?
OMG, he is a politician. 12 million Americans left to vote. Let them be heard and let their votes count.
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this
What is it about Gordon and short tracks.
By W
March 30, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
My loyal followers,
Here are two excerpts from “The Real Dirt on Sewage Sludge,” by Wendy Priesnitz
…In Tifton, Georgia, more than 1,000 acres of peanut crops were killed by Lime Plus, a toxic brew of hazardous waste and limestone that had been sold legally to unsuspecting farmers. It is the worst confirmed case in the United States of heavy metals in fertilizer destroying crops aimed for human consumption.
After 1992, when a U.S. government ban on ocean dumping of sewage sludge went into effect, the one economical disposal option still available was land application. So with the blessing of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the municipal waste industry hired the public relations firm Powell Tate, which rechristened sludge as “beneficial biosolids”. Then, with the sweep of a pen, the EPA reclassified sludge from “hazardous material” to “compost”.
Most people just have no idea what is going on right underneath their own noses. Let’s keep it that way.
Thank You, Your Leader, W.
P.S. What ever you do, do not read that stuff posted at www.ngass.com.
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
Wrong, GaLiberal, Wooten’s took a bipartisan swipe at the assembly.
And quit calling him moron jim, that doesn’t work, now, does it.
Getalife, how you trolls can find ways to beat the word limit filters with your cut and paste excel spread sheets and cheekspreads is very impressive.
But you are the worst troll on the blog, no question. You’ve ruined this blog, taken all the fun out of the campaign and the debate about it, you’re just a crudity and you’re the blogging equivalent of a fish woman.
Just get lost. Just get lost.
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
Wrong, GaLiberal, Wooten’s took a bipartisan swipe at the assembly.
And quit calling him moron jim, that doesn’t work, now, does it.
Getalife, how you trolls can find ways to beat the word limit filters with your cut and paste excel spread sheets and cheekspreads is very impressive.
But you are the worst troll on the blog, no question. You’ve ruined this blog, taken all the fun out of the campaign and the debate about it, you’re just a crudity and you’re the blogging equivalent of a fish woman.
Just get lost. Just get lost.
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
Wrong, GaLiberal, Wooten’s took a bipartisan swipe at the assembly.
And quit calling him moron jim, that doesn’t work, now, does it.
Getalife, how you trolls can find ways to beat the word limit filters with your cut and paste excel spread sheets and cheekspreads is very impressive.
But you are the worst troll on the blog, no question. You’ve ruined this blog, taken all the fun out of the campaign and the debate about it, you’re just a crudity and you’re the blogging equivalent of a fish woman.
Just get lost. Just get lost.
By getalife
March 30, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
Come on Jr.
By Devastator
March 30, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
Pelosi: Dem nominee will be chosen in June!
by Dr.democrat Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 06:24:21 AM PDT Team Hillary may think that she is going to take this nomination to Denver but Team Pelosi just stated last night that that will NOT be happening. She along with Reid and Dean have made it very clear that there will not be a fight for the Dem nomination on the convention floor in August. Instead this baby is going to be shut down in JUNE folks.
http://abclocal.go.com/…
.. —> polls come after this —> Drdemocrat’s diary :: ::
Pelosi spoke to reporters after giving a speech at the California Democratic convention yesterday. She was asked if she thought that uncommitted Democratic superdelegates should make their preference known by July.
Her answer was “It will be much sooner, right after the public has voted.” Another superdelegate there also echoed that statement. Superdelegate Bob Mulholland said that the nominee will be decided well before the party’s August convention in Denver. His statement was “People ought to just relax”. “Whoever is ahead by 50 delegates or so, you’ll see the superdelegates move that direction. It’ll just happen naturally.”
Well we all know that Hillary stated in the WaPo today that she plans to take this all the way to the Democratic National Convention and will try to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates using the credential committee. Well it appears that Dem leadership knows that that will be SUICIDE and they will just shut this process down long before that.
Thus whomever has the most pledged delegates and/or popular vote in June, superdelegates will swing towards that person to give that candidate the magic number of “2024” and that is that whether it is Hillary or Obama.
We will have our Dem nominee in June folks. Reid knows that. Pelosi knows that. Dean knows that. Gore knows that. That is why the leadership is not getting that worried about this going to the convention. They are just waiting for the primary process to end and then voila, we will have a nominee. Hillary can kick and scream all she wants but it will be over then.
By AmVet
March 30, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
NEW YORK — Like a bill being rapidly pushed through legislation, Oliver Stone’s film about President George W. Bush is expected to begin shooting within a month with a goal toward being released before the president leaves office next January.
A person close to the film, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because plans were still being formalized, said Stone’s “W.” will begin filming in late April in Shreveport, Louisiana. The Academy Award-winning director only began shopping his script for financing in January, but has quickly captured the interest of investors and Hollywood.
Though not yet confirmed apparently a reprised and heavily bespectacled Leslie Nielsen will play the lead role.
Vocal clips from the late Jim Backus (“Oh W, you’ve done it again!”) will make the characterization complete…
By AJC Management
March 30, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
Let us review all of the pinko bleating and squealing from just this morning:
{{{{The latest discouraging episode was unfolding this weekend in bloody Basra, the southern city where Iraqi government forces — in their toughest test yet — were still struggling to gain the upper hand in a five-day-old battle with Shiite Muslim militias. Year by year, the goal of deploying a capable, freestanding Iraqi army has seemed always to slip further into the future.-Associated Press}}}}
{{{{“The fight in Basra shows the folly of trying to control all the Shiites of Iraq through a small minority, which appears to be the current U.S. policy.”“We have called for jihad,” Abu Ali said. “The government came with the occupier and supports the occupiers and they know the Americans will protect them. We are fighting to get our rights.”-La Times}}}}
{{{{Sadr is America’s enemy, for now. But his power base among poor Shiites is as hard to eradicate as is that of Hamas in Gaza. And it’s hard to imagine a stable future Iraq that doesn’t have support from the poor Shiites who follow Sadr. A sign of their power is the rising last week in Shiite neighborhoods of eastern Baghdad. If the Shiite community en masse goes into the streets, the American mission is effectively finished; we can’t fight 60 percent of the people.-Ignatius, Washington Post}}}}
{{{{The fierce fighting — and the threat that it could undo a long-term truce that has greatly helped to reduce the level of violence in Iraq — thrust the war back into the headlines and the public consciousness just as it had been receding behind a tide of economic concerns. And it raised anew a host of politically charged questions about whether the current strategy is succeeding, how capable the Iraqis are of defending themselves and what the potential impact would be of any American troop withdrawals.-Treason Times}}}}
Can I get rewrite!
Hehehehe.
Oh and of course, how could I forget the Urinal:
{{{{Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki sent a top general to hold talks with al-Sadr, his Shiite rival, on Saturday night only to be rebuffed by the firebrand cleric, an Iraqi official said. Al-Sadr ordered his followers to defy government orders to surrender their weapons. The prime minister acknowledged he may have miscalculated by failing to foresee the strong backlash that this week’s offensive provoked in areas of Baghdad and other cities where Shiite militias wield power.}}}}
Now apply all that^^ to the U.S. economy.
My, oh my, what a tangled little web we weave…….
And like this has ever been a big mystery, Maliki can either side up with Iran, a failed thugocracy with a 3rd world economy, or with the United States of America, the preeminent superpower in the world.
Let’s see, skyscrapers and resorts like Kuwait and Dubai or do we want tent cities mired in poverty like the Iranians?
Hmmmmmmm.
By Devastator
March 30, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
Too bad AJC management isn’t here. I’d love to tell him that he responds to people jacking IDs too much.
Anyone that calls Obama “buckwheat” knows exactly what they’re doing. With so many other black actors and public figures to choose from for namecalling, it is a direct attack against Obama because of the color of his skin.
Thank you for illustrating why we need a black president.
By Dusty
March 30, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
Well…you gentlemen having fun today playing tag? Sounds like that old familiar tune “seems to me I’ve heard that song before”.
Obama is as guilt laden as Mrs. O’Leary’s cow..and causing a conflagration..but the fire is failing..yet fanned by a few in need of change.
Today’s sermon was on Thomas, not Paul. Thomas had to rid himself of doubts. Then traveled far and wide with great energy to preach the gospel.
William Hunter sounds like POFO when he’s not on drugs.
AJCManagement writes a great message of appreciation”God bless you, George W. Bush for your unwavering determination through all odds. You never lost faith in the greatest country or the bravest soldiers in the world”. Yes! Yes!
But where is Glenn? Organizing the school patrol for Clayton county?
So continue, gentlemen. I will not breach the germane gentleman’s menage again. But one bit of advice. Never buy fried chicken at Kroger. I learned that at yesterday’s family party picnic. Grease and gristle is not good. (Just thought you might like to know.)The party was great! Carry on, cavaliers!!!
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
JBMLAW: here’s one 4 U.
A judge for Gwinnett County Courts is also a lawyer. A man walks into his law office one day and wants to sue Gwinnett County for injuries sustained in a traffic accident with a Gwinnett County School Bus.
Question for JBMLAW: should that lawyer recuse himself from that case in a conflict of interest? Is there a liability on the lawyer’s part if he does take the case?
By getalife
March 30, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
pf,
“Obama was the first to play the race card:
Sean Wilentz is the Sidney and Ruth Lapidus professor of history at Princeton University
Quietly, the storm over the hateful views expressed by Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has blown away the most insidious myth of the Democratic primary campaign. Obama and his surrogates have charged that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to label Obama the “black” candidate.
Having injected racial posturing into the contest, Obama’s “post-racial” campaign finally seems to be all about race and sensational charges about white racism. But the mean-spirited strategy started even before the primaries began, when Obama’s operatives began playing the race card - and blamed Hillary Clinton.”
By AJC Management
March 30, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Devastator March 30, 2008 4:28 PM Too bad AJC management isn’t here. I’d love to tell him that he responds to people jacking IDs too much. Anyone that calls Obama “buckwheat” knows exactly what they’re doing. With so many other black actors and public figures to choose from for namecalling, it is a direct attack against Obama because of the color of his skin. Thank you for illustrating why we need a black president.}}}}
Your right, I should have called him Alfalfa, there’s so much resemblance.
Are all you cultists charter members of the dimwit club or what?
Dimastator: Let me guess, it took you 24 hours to poll test the “Buckwheat” theory and it got some traction, eh?
Sort a like that “Jesse Jackson” deal, right?
By Devastator
March 30, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
getalife,
The next time you post some Clinton supporter’s idiocy with no facts to back it up, you will be totally discredited from this blog.
I suggest you count the delegates. That will give you the dose of reality you need.
By AJC Management
March 30, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this
Ed Morrissey has his own unique view of today’s blessed events in Iraq:
{{{{When the Iraqi government finally took the long-expected action to establish control of Basra after the British pullback left it in the hands of militias and gangsters, suddenly the media declared that the country had reached the brink of collapse. They highlighted stories of defections from the Iraqi military and opined that the surge had failed. Moqtada al-Sadr would finally achieve his goal of controlling the South and would expose the Baghdad government as a house of cards.}}}}
{{{{Guess which side just sued for peace?}}}}
{{{{And Nouri al-Maliki remains in Basra. Buh-bye, Sadr.}}}}
By AJC Management
March 30, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
{{{{That brings us to our first ‘counts’ against Rep. Murtha: Violating the Haditha Marines’ constitutional protection of (a) being presumed innocent until provent guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and (b) violating their due process rights.}}}}
{{{{Another accusation Rep. Murtha made was that the officers in charge of the 3/1 Marines covered up their findings of what happened on November 19, 2005 in the city of Haditha. That’s absurd because we know that Captain Jeffrey Dinsmore put together a comprehensive PowerPoint presentation, which was sent up the chain of command. That isn’t speculation; that’s his sworn testimony. The fact that the people further up the chain of command said that there isn’t anything to investigate says it all.}}}}
{{{{With his clout, Rep. Murtha did everything except play the role of judge, jury and executioner. In civilian court, he would’ve been accused of poisoning the jury pool, which is another violation of the Haditha Marines’ due process rights.}}}}
I sense an open seat in Pennslyvania, anyone got Diane Irey’s number?
By Buckwheat
March 30, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this
I love you Rufus. You too {{{{{}}}}}.
By Buckwheat
March 30, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this
Rufus and {{{{{}}}}} both love me. At least, that’s what they always tell me — at the same time.
By AJC Management
March 30, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
And this dimwit wants to run our economy:
{{{{Ku Klux Rodham’s cash-strapped presidential campaign has been putting off paying hundreds of bills for months — freeing up cash for critical media buys but also earning the campaign a reputation as something of a deadbeat in some small-business circles.}}}}
{{{{A pair of Ohio companies owed more than $25,000 by KKKlinton for staging events for her campaign are warning others in the tight-knit event production community — and anyone else who will listen — to get their cash upfront when doing business with her. Her campaign, say representatives of the two companies, has stopped returning phone calls and e-mails seeking payment of outstanding invoices. One even got no response from a certified letter.}}}}
By RW-(the original)
March 30, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
This exposes Obama as a politician who plays fast and loose with his life story to transform himself into whatever his audience wants to see. For those who want to see a post-racial candidate, he downplays race as an issue. When in Chicago, he hangs out with radicals like Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, and Bernadette Dohrn for authenticity. For Democrats wanting a return to JFK, he ties himself to the Kennedys in a false and strangely sexual manner. And for those who want a candidate with civil-rights movement credentials, he offers the same kind of connection to a famous march that obviously had nothing to do with his birth.
In other words, Barack Obama is a phony. Had the media that covered his speech in Selma in March 2007 thought to do the math, Democrats could have figured this out nine months before the first primary contests. Now they’re stuck with him — unless the superdelegates want to hand the nomination to the Tuzla Dash candidate instead.
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this
RW good job! I dont think obmamania will survive when there’s good watchdogs like you and all the conservative blogs protecting american interests for the common good!
bravo sir.
By getalife
March 30, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this
Damn, I lost the troll award at TPM
Hilarious.
I am a troll for supporting a Dem on a Dem blog.
Too funny and the quote was not me. Go figure.
Anyhoo, at the least they did not ban me like Daily Obama or censor me like the Obama post.
Ain’t blogging fun?
By jbmlaw
March 30, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this
Dear William @ 4:38, you describe a potential conflict of interest. In larger jurisdictions like Gwinnett, judges usually fold their litigation practices. If a judge determined to remain in a litigation practice, or associated with a practice that litigates, he would need to set up filters to prevent both actual improper influence as well as the appearance of improper influence. If approached to take a case as attorney, he would be ethically-bound to recuse himself if/when the case is assigned to him as judge.
By AmVet
March 30, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this
I don’t know about you people, but I’m getting sick and tired of this mamby pamby President and his “feel good” staff.
Five years on and we still haven’t preemptively invaded anybody new.
A shockingly awesome waste of firepower.
Shameful…
By jbmlaw
March 30, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this
Dear William @ 4:38, I neglected to answer your most obvious question: it would be an irreconcileable conflict of interest to discuss a litigation with a potential plaintiff against an entity that pays your salary. I think that is the most “global” answer one could give to your hypothetical. (In the real world, an employee of “Gwinnett County” courts - the magistrate or probate courts - would be unlikely to hear a serious personal injury accident case, as that would be more likely filed in a State or Superior Court.)
By RW-(the original)
March 30, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this
getalife,
You got robbed my man. I know the places you like to have a beer and I’m going along with you.
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this
JBM: is there a two year limit for legal or civil reprisals against any lawyer who accepts a personal injury case from a client suing the county that the lawyer also works for as a judge?
By William Hunter
March 30, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this
JBM: is there a two year limit for legal or civil reprisals against any lawyer who accepts a personal injury case from a client suing the county that the lawyer also works for as a judge?
PS go to view from the cop
By BadOleBoys
March 31, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this
Jim,
You have made a bold claim that there is a leadership problem under the Gold Dome. Well, I have to tell you that I have looked high and low and all I can find are problems. I cannot find any of this purported leadership. So, where is it, Jim?
By William Hunter
March 31, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
Badboy: there are leaders in the assembly, and there are good leaders who are very effective. The assembly represents the best of us. Have you ever just hung out where they have lunch? Not one of them talks with their mouth full of food, or puts their elbows on the table, or just grabs the salt. They politely ask to be excused when they’re through. They even graciously take their trays back to the kitchen. Real salad forks, these guys!
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