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DEL.ICIO.USObama’s awakening comes too late, and it slights America
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Liberal apologists who grasp the devastating impact the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has on Barack Obama’s chances of being elected president of the United States this year join the candidate in explanation and excuses. Sorry. No cigar.
About some things most Americans have no sense of humor. The anti-American rhetoric of Obama’s preacher ranks high among them. Sure, no member of the congregation is responsible for the loopy, inflammatory or racist rhetoric of the man in the pulpit. But 20 years? You sit there for 20 years with your children, and just now, when the world sees documentary evidence of his extremism, do you condemn “the statements of Rev. Wright that have caused such controversy.”
But of course. Absolutely. Those particular words have probably killed his chances of being elected president of the United States this year. Condemning them now, while necessary, is a waterboarded declaration.
That’s not to say the sentiment’s not genuine. Public reaction may very well have informed him, for the first time, that the sort of recreational anti-Americanism that ordinarily goes unchallenged when it emanates from “this nation’s original sin of slavery” is deeply offensive to the Middle America that sees an entirely different America.
This has been a major sticking point with the left for decades now. It’s that pervasive view that America is evil, that its institutions are corrupt and that unless constrained by international laws, codes, treaties and mores, we will pillage and destroy under the guise of liberty and defile the world’s nest to satisfy our lust for oil and greed for consumables.
So it is that the Constitution becomes a reference document to be considered in the context of the laws of other nations. So it is that the Kyoto treaty becomes the document needed to keep us from contributing an “unfair” share of the world’s greenhouse gases. So it is that international opinion should define when and how America acts in its national security interests.
And when we don’t heel to the policies advocated by the left we, in their view, invite disaster — 9/11, for example. The American left in the black community adds the additional grievance of “this nation’s original sin” as moral justification for rhetoric such as that uttered by Wright, rhetoric said to be standard fare in the pulpits of some black churches.
If it is, it’s a corrosive invitation to see America as a vile and irredeemable society unworthy of engagement.
Obama cites his own journey as evidence that Wright’s view is wrong. “I will never forget that in no other country on Earth is my story even possible.” Wright’s “profound mistake” was to speak “as if our society was static, as if no progress has been made.” But, said Obama on Tuesday, “what we know — what we have seen — is that America can change.”
While that’s undeniably so, that optimism contrasts with the rhetoric most often heard where race and liberalism converge. Even his wife, Michelle, a woman who has enjoyed the richness and privilege accorded the elite in America, says now that “for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country.” The first time? Stunning.
Obama asserted the obvious, too, that the world is not static; societies move. Yet his Tuesday speech was yesterday’s liberalism earnestly and eloquently presented as a call for a move beyond race. It was a rehash of arguments aired repeatedly and debated fully for decades in defense of programs to enact or preserve racial preferences in hiring, admissions and contracting, for example, and to pour more public money into failed approaches to education. And, of course, it comes with the requisite trashing of the greedy corporations that parade through neighborhoods whimsically shuttering mills and sending the jobs overseas “for nothing more than a profit.”
He sees a nation, too, that fills emergency rooms with the sick and unprotected because they “don’t have the power to overcome the special interests in Washington.”
Who could love that America?
But that is not the one most Americans see and know.
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By AJC Management
March 22, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this
{{{{Obama’s awakening comes too late, and it slights America.}}}}
Sort of sounds like the Sunni “awakening” in Iraq.
Former cult members who have figured out that hating their country and their fellow countrymen doesn’t really “change” anything.
Jim nails another one.
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{{{{Unless Clinton is able to at least win the primary popular vote — which also would take nothing less than an electoral miracle — and use that achievement to pressure superdelegates, she has only one scenario for victory. An African-American opponent and his backers would be told that, even though he won the contest with voters, the prize is going to someone else.}}}}
{{{{People who think that scenario is even remotely likely are living on another planet.}}}}
Another planet, let’s see here, which planet would fit this^^ description, I know.
Planet Moonbat.
Hahaha, that’s you, Code Pinko.
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The AJC Staff is posting comments in the Vent section again:
How is the inflammatory hate rhetoric of Obambi’s preacher any different from that of conservative talk radio hosts like Hannity or Limbaugh?-Urinal
You got that, twenty years the possible next president of the United States sat in the pew listening to “inflammatory hate rhetoric.” I agree.
Now, as far as Limbaugh and Hannity, I suspect it should be real easy for you Pinkos to show us when either of them said g!! damn America, the same country that Obambi wants to lead.
To the venter wondering what we did to Mother Nature to earn tornadoes and a drought: Let’s see … pollution, exhaustion of natural resources, causing global warming. Need I go on?-Urinal
So all of those tornadoes in 1880 were from…….
Duh.
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{{{{TUCKER: 81-year-old man kills intruder-Urinal}}}}
{{{{“When he saw me, he said, ‘Give me that gun,’ ” Jenkins recalled Friday. “Then he lunged at me, so I shot him.”}}}}
{{{{The first bullet hit the man in the chest, Jenkins said, “but he kept lunging for me and beating me” in the head and chest.}}}}
{{{{“So I shot him again,” Jenkins said. That bullet hit the intruder in the neck.}}}}
{{{{That someone was 25-year-old Jynard Marshall, an Atlanta man who broke into the elderly couple’s home near Lawrenceville Highway on Tuesday night. Marshall previously had served prison time on a robbery and drug conviction in Fulton County.}}}}
How did this get into the Urinal?
Is the normal anti American God hating heathen metro editor off somewhere celebrating Holy week?
This is what is known as a righteous self defense shooting, something the drive by media usually buries in their dumpsters.
By the way, that was a perfect situation for a .45 ACP 230 grain Speer Gold Dot JHP launched from a Ruger P345.
Less messy.
By BadOleBoys
March 22, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this
Good Show, Jim.
Now that’s the kind of passionate writing we wanted to see. I wonder if the fiery red pupils contrasted well with the whites of the blue-blooded one’s eyes. Have you considered a web cam? How about a 1-hour spot live every Sunday on your local TV station? What would your preachings consist of every Sunday for twenty years?
By Redneck Convert
March 22, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this
Well ya’ll, my girlfriend just got in from upstate New York and all she left me was this damn video
I don’t know whats up with these libruls. They just keep going after each other about the throats.
Why don’t she like Obama?
I guess that’s how we rednecks in NY see it.
Well I’ve got lots of beer to run today and a crazy NY librul to take care of so I may not make it back.
So have a nice day.
By Craig
March 22, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
So Obama’s chances of winning have been devastated? Woud you care to remind us again what your predictions were before the 2006 election?
By TW
March 22, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
Republican George W Bush’s gaffe in Iraq has led to the killing of thousands or our soldiers, and hundreds of thousands of their citizens. Roll that up in your Christian cigar and smoke it, Mr. Wooten.
Sorry Rev Wright hurt your feelings. Maybe the families of our dead soldiers could help you through your pain.
By It's America, Stupid
March 22, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this
I think it’s a shame that Wooten cant love that america, this america, the other america, or the melting pot which now is The America. Lady Liberty protects all expression, not just white journalists who were handed a career by selling out to a latently-unembalmed conservative corpse in the wake of some ungodly ceremonial buffet of pledged perpetuation.
Let me tell you a little story about a homie’s homily, an enraged gentry, and a scolded rabble. Well, that rabble became our founding fathers. They dared 2 offer outrageous oratorio from the pulpits, the town square, and the assemblies. They blew their chance, like Obama just did, to become slaves to unholy traditions and lecherous loyalties. They saw they were Americans. They became America, and were loathed just like Wooten loathes the new America that has sprouted so quickly in spite of his shadow.
Yes, America is alien to Wooten. White priveledged elite (bush base) didn’t notice that America changed. (Negroes say the darndest things.) Surely Wooten’s god will punish those darkly colored sermons, those who drew comfort from them, and those who would be inspired to mend a torn flag.
The new America is here. All are welcome. Wooten is free 2 blog-on no matter how oblivious to reality his remarks are.
By W
March 22, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
Let me begin by reiterating Ms. Rice’s insightful comment:
“None of us wants to have a circumstance in which any American’s passport file is looked at in an unauthorized way,” said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice as she offered apologies to the candidates.
Now if you people in congress will just pass all of my anti-terrorist legislation, these unfortunate incidents will be pre-authorized and no one will need to know that no harm was done.
Thank You, Your Leader, W
By BadOleBoys
March 22, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
If only Obama had picked a good Catholic church with a real friendly anglo priest, things could have been different. Obama could have been so loved. Or, maybe a church that serves special kool-aid would have been a better choice. He could be out there in the stars cruising from planet to planet in search of believers even as we type.
By Dusty
March 22, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
Thank you, Jim Wooten
You made it absolutely clear why hate of any kind is not “American”. I appreciate your efforts and hope you continue to write about our country, “the one most Americans see and know”. Your honesty and skill is much appreciated.
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
How in the name of Journalism 101 can a man, within the course of ONE article, go from right on to right off the cliff?
Isn’t it bad enough that this newspaper’s political blogs are started each and every day with the rantings of a once-banned, always enraged “family values” paragon?
And my goodness, in 2008 must we endure written tripe (penned by a professional) cloaked as the written word? And for a man who is old enough to know MUCH better, our esteemed columnist offers a world view unchanged since 1980.
Or is it 1950?
As for his predictions, and as alluded to by an earlier blogger, what are we to make of the elections just a scant 16 months ago where for the first time in the history of the United States, no Republican captured any House, Senate, or Gubernatorial seat previously held by a Democrat?
Not one??!!
And at the risk of rubbing salt in the wounds of these phony conservative ostriches and Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rumsfeld apologists, let me refresh your conveniently inconsistent memories: the GOP lost 31 House seats and 6 Senate seats.
In one election!!!
OW!! Now that’s got to sting a little.
So Mr. Wooten, of the 26 Republican seats now vacated (by the non cut and runners?) in Congress, (more to come I’m sure) do you NOT see another GOP bloodbath coming?
Really?
Good luck with that.
Particularly as your Party’s power-brokers and heroes don’t seem to have learned a single, solitary thing as to the reasons why 2006, and their “message” (as aped by your same old tired, half-spirited and now utterly discounted rhetoric) was such a debacle for them.
And we all know that is why your political gang of less than rational extremists truly loathes John McCain. Because he convinced the American electorate that the Republican Party, as hijacked and fronted by the above mentioned rogues gallery, is a train wreck with NO chance to get back on the tracks.
But trust me, almost nobody feels sorry for you or them. You’ve worked VERY hard to deserve what you are getting and almost certainly will continue to get.
And IMHO that is exceptionally good news for America.
By Glenn
March 22, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
A masterful column, Jim. The best I’ve seen on HateGate, or whatever harebrained name a Democrat would give it were the shoe on t’other. I believe your piece will get wide play, and will disturb much manure. I don’t even need my crystal for that prediction: the GreenProgs here already don’t know what to do other than to say that your President wears army boots and your father smelled of elderberries.
The Press is still missing the story, though, and that’s more than a little unsettling as the misconduct of the Press is as big a story in this election as is the conduct of the candidates themselves. The story is simply that the Trinity flap led straight to the fact that Barack Obama comes out of the Marxist tradition. And so now the story is one of how the Press came to miss that story.
AJC Mgt., I’m sure you’re right, but if Clayton won’t take the school offer, I’m sticking with Shaky Jake and a clipful of Slovak wad cutters. Kill ‘em on the cheap, I say. I could never get Rummy to come around on that one.
W, were you really our leader you’d call the lady “Secretary Rice” or “Dr. Rice”. Yep, that’s how I can tell that you’re not our W. I’m alert to these things.
By TEST
March 22, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
MORE CRIME BY ILLEGAL HISPANICS IN ATLANTA: FROM THE PAGES OF THE ATLANTA URINAL CONSITUTION: “Police have arrested a mother on charges she harbored a man who impregnated her 14-year-old daughter.
Authorities say 42-year-old Rosa Elena Benavides-Arellano allowed Lucio Gomez-Gonzalez to stay at her home for two weeks and permitted him to have sex with her daughter. Gomez-Gonzalez’s age is unknown.
Police charged Gomez-Gonzalez, whose age is unknown, with statutory rape on Thursday. The mother was charged the previous day with being a party to statutory rape.
According to arrest warrants, both suspects are Mexicans in the country illegally.”
By Mid-South Philosopher
March 22, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
Barack Obama may be the smartest candidate we have had seeking the Presidency since Woodrow Wilson. Unfortunately, he is the most naive. Additionally, his perceptions on several critical issues are elementary at best.
Hillary Clinton is a smart woman and a deadly determined adversary. In dealing with the Islamist fanatics, she is best suited to slug it out in the gutter. Trouble is, her domestic policies are a blueprint for socialism.
John McCain is a man educated by experience. Unlike Georgie Bush, who can’t remember ever making a mistake, McCain admits that his support of the Kennedy, McCain, Bush amnesty effort was a mistake and that the first step is to dealing with the illegal immigration problem is to secure the borders. He will continue the effort in Iraq, but he will certainly be more efficient than the Crawford, Texas Boy Wonder.
The problem is that John McCain should have been elected President in 2000. As a result of our electing Bush, who is educated beyond his intelligence, I suspect the American people are not going to opt for a perfected Bush mold Republican.
We will be the losers.
By Say Cheese
March 22, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
Nixon to the People: “You’re not gonna have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore!”
The People to Obama: “You’re not gonna have your grandmother to kick around anymore!”
By W
March 22, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
Oops, my bad, Glenn. Here, let me tap dance around that one. That’s Dr. Rice, to you. Now suck it up and get that legislation passed. While you are at it, please send your checks to the war effort. You are behind on your payments. Don’t make me foreclose.
Your Leader, W.
By Glenn
March 22, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
Mid-South, I like your phrase “educated beyond his intelligence”. It’s deep, but this is a sunny Saturday, and shallow, and so I’ll save that one for a rainy day. Your phrase aptly describes Woodrow Wilson, around whom Adlai Stevenson could have danced intellectual circles. (TR did.) Jack Kennedy also was a very bright bulb, though lazy beyond his intelligence. But then, to paraphrase Will Rogers, who was just plain smarter’n any of ‘em, “intelligence” is so vague, and politics is so real.
By @@
March 22, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
My problem with Obama is that he hides his true self choosing instead to let his supporters believe in their “Dreams of O-Bama.” He’s good at it too! Lies by omission are still lies. They’re just lies that feed his frenzied followers of change.
By and large, the idealistic voters of the far-left oppose the death penalty, but did Obama reveal that his vote in the Illinois state senate allowed that state to lift the freeze on executions? No!
In a speech delivered in Durham, he “revealed” that he had worked to reform the death-penalty. The crowd went crazy. He stopped there, letting them believe what they wanted to believe - that he was on their side in abolishing the death-penalty. Studies reveal that half of African Americans are against it. Lies by omission.
Too legit to admit?
Talk about victims! Obama supporters are his.
By AJC Management
March 22, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
Uh, I think there is something you libs may as well get used to:
{{{{Among Obama supporters, 20 percent said they would vote for Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the Republican nominee, if Clinton beats their candidate for the nomination. Among Clinton supporters, 19 percent said they would support McCain in November if Obama is the Democratic nominee. See poll
The demokrat party is kaput.
Bwa.
And I know for a fact that the 1 in 5 number is only going to grow larger as we approach November.
There is only the most infinitesimal chance that the White Power can win the nomination, that being done through lying, cheating and stealing, KKKlinton fortes all, and if she does pull it off, there will be race riots in the streets of every American city.
But if Obambi should win, then you’ll get three solid months of Rev Wright/ Pat Robertson coverage, which should thoroughly disgust all but the most hardcore pinkos.
President McBushie.
And what of those down ballot races?
By getalife
March 22, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
From a fellow Clinton supporter Bartcop:
“I would eat this up like cake.”
— GOP hatchetman Rick Wilson, who did the 2002 Cleland-Osama morph ads,
talking about what the GOP will do with Obama-Wright connection.
“It’s harder for people to say it’s taken out of context because these are Wright’s own words. You let people draw their own conclusions. You don’t have to say that he’s unpatriotic; you don’t
question his patriotism. Because I guaran-damn-tee you that, with that footage, you don’t have to.”
— Chris LaCivita, GOP hatchetman who helped craft the Swift Boat commercials against Kerry.
Yes, they’re going to make Obama “the most radical Muslim” to ever step foot in America, but there’s no need to worry because the voters are smart - right?”
The dems run Obama, you will get a third term for McBushie who cut and run from obl and allowed him to change our country. McBushie will finish off our country and Jim and his ilk will cheer it on.
Nuff said
By getalife
March 22, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
America has lost its freaking mind
Clinton does not have a radical kook spiritual adviser.
By Glenn
March 22, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
get, you evidently haven’t read Ehrenreich’s piece. It was posted here yesterday, elevenish.
By TW
March 22, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Been trying to find some books written by ‘w’ during his quest for the presidency…oh, well - running low on crayons anyway…
So, five years after this bold, Republican led war on terror, the best the AG can do is scrath his head over this latest threat?
That’s just great. Are we at the point in this presidency when we can ask who has benefitted from the last eight years of misguidance, now that the security argument is a full blown joke?
…besides those who have upgraded their yacht furniture…
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
What Curls, nor Jimbo, CAN seem to grasp is that indeed the RINO McCain is likely to win the White House.
(IF, and this could be a big if, he doesn’t completely kill his chances by opting for a running mate who is a perfected Bush mold Republican, as Mid-South noted in his wonderful 9:57.)
I pray he is smart enough to realize that would likely cause the majority of the independents, moderates, greens, disenchanted Democrats and dismayed Republicans who will likely vote for him to drop him faster than a rat can shimmy up a drain pipe.
Which could well lead to the nation waking up on November 5th and saying, “Good morning President-elect Obama!”
That McCain may be our next commander-in-chief is for me, not bad news at all. Though I still profoundly disagree with him on Bush’s occupation, he is unquestionably unlike our current occupier of the West Wing and his band of merry never-served thugs in almost countless ways - a man of reason, who can give and take and who has demonstrated enormous courage and sacrifice to the nation.
But what these most desperate of neo-cons can’t seem to understand is that this will otherwise have little impact on the second installment of the GOP disaster this November. As these men who are trying to protect their paid-for memberships in Congress are the ones who have sat by and tacitly endorsed this administration’s ineptitude, hubris and questionable morality. And, of course, the ensuing debacles. They are in many, many cases as politically similar to Messiuers Bush and Cheney and therefore as different from Sen, McCain as possible.
And the nation finally sees and understands this charade foisted on them for way too many years, and will no longer elect yet more phony conservatives who seemingly have no idea what they are doing…
By FlaBSlaB
March 22, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
OW! that’s gotta burn.
Even so, the poll displays no numbers flattering to Obama. Most startling is that blacks by 56% to 31% said the speech made them less likely to vote for him. That may be because Obama had some gutsy perspectives on blacks as well as on whites, and black observers of the speech may have been annoyed. But it’s hard to imagine that there’s going to be an appreciable retreat by blacks from the Obama column.
Democrats disapproved 48% to 28%, which looks sobering for Obama on first glance, but might portend otherwise. If blacks irritated by Obama’s remarks will return to the fold, than impressing whites is probably a more vital read on the numbers. And Democratic whites were more sympathetic with the speech’s message than black ones.
The disturbing numbers for Obama are the independent voters. By 56% to 13%, they said they’re less likely to vote for him because of the speech.
Nader is polling at 6%.
OW again!
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
“So Obama’s chances of winning have been devastated? Woud you care to remind us again what your predictions were before the 2006 election?”
Uhm, Craig, we are talking about a p-r-e-s-i-d-e-n-t-i-a-l election here. Read much liberal asshat? But to answer your a*inine question were it ON topic, such as the prediction of 2004 you liberals and your beloved mainstream media had for Kerry, it’s going to be music to my ears listening to you soiling babies b!tch about McCain giving Nanny Pelosi post-menopausal hot flashes for the next eight years.
Any jackass still pulling for that lost cause Hillary out there?
Speaking of a lost cause, the beauty of irony is listening to the braaaaying jackasses on the left b!tch about OBL while at the same time calling terrorism nothing but a bumper sticker. Remember, those same asshats do not want us profiling Middle Eastern Muslims.
Nah, what liberals say is meaningless. Really.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
Sssshhhh…
I’m waiting for AmWay the liberal Sales Weasel to tell us all that Conservatives are full of “hate” for speaking their minds. (hark?!)…
Did anyone by chance catch NPR this morning? It was a sob story about why the Iraq War is no longer on people’s minds for the most part. I suppose five years of frothing at the mouth by liberals has taken its toll. Not that we have other things going on on this planet or anything. But leave it to NPR, funded by your tax dollars BTW, to have convulsions about Iraq possibly NOT being an election issue. (What, did you liberal asshats on the left not learn from the Kerry smackdown in 2004?)
Anyway, they were “interviewing” some textbook red state area in some small country restaurant during breakfast. They “interviewed” four Republicans and one Democrat. All four Republicans said they were tired of the war and wanted the troops to come home. The Democrat (check this out) said she supported the war effort initially but was getting weary of it. No. I’m not making this up.
Since when did the Atlanta Urinal Constipation start running NPR?
By Dusty
March 22, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
Well, I hope Obama keeps making speeches. As graceful and thoughtful as he dreamily speaks, he puts his foot in his mouth almost every time. Even the Democrats seem to have realized that Obama is not your all-American supporter in many things. That is, the Democrats who have not swooned themselves into a coma.
We have all heard Obama’s excuses for listening to hate and profanity against the country for 20 years, a slur on his white grandmother, and the choice of a wife who JUST found ONE good thing in America. Yet Dems still want to extol Obama’s great intelligence? And STILL run down Bush as a disgraced dumbie? A good speech alone does not make a great man.
I’ll take Bush’s love of country, his protective measures, his fight against terrorism anytime over a man who has been anti-war since day one and wants to change America. I don’t even want to think about what KIND of CHANGE he wants.
McCain follows Bush in love and allegiance to and for this country. I’ll vote for a man whose actions and “talk” are the same. I like a candidate who doesn’t have to “explain” extensively, what he has done in the past.
By Democrats for Sames
March 22, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
Obama is just another in the long list of hypocrites that will leave us right where we are right now…divided and bitterly disappointed.
Read up Obama and Exelon Corp., look up and read up on Obama and his vote confirming Condi Rice, look up his YES reauthorization of the ill-named PATRIOT Act, look up his war monies authorization YES votes, look up his money support for pro war cheerleader Lieberman, on the campaign trail, he has repeatedly stated his desire to add more than 100,000 combat troops to the military, this is not change at all.
Obama’s US Senate campaign committee, starting with his successful run in 2004, has collected $128,000 from lobbyists and $1.3 million from PACs, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonprofit organization that tracks money in politics. His $1.3 million from PACs represents 8 percent of what he has raised overall.
In addition, Obama’s own federal PAC, Hopefund, took in $115,000 from 56 PACs in the 2005-2006 election cycle out of $4.4 million the PAC raised, according to CQ MoneyLine, which collects Federal Election Commission data.
Obama then used those PAC contributions — including thousands from defense contractors, law firms, and the securities and insurance industries — to build support for his presidential run by making donations to Democratic Party organizations and candidates around the country.
By Glenn
March 22, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
Been trying to find some books written by ‘jfk’ during his quest for the presidency. All I can find is one written for him by Ted Sorensen at Joe Kennedy’s expense.
By me
March 22, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
In all of this I feel like black people are being blamed for slavery and all of its many blessings. (Not) And who ever decided to use this fustration of unresolved issues between the races due to slavery for political fodder was wrong for doing so. This is an unresolved issue and an apology for slavery and lynchings would be nice so we can really move on and stop sweeping the issue under the rug and hoping it will go away.
By HECKler
March 22, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
First we find out BO willingly sat in the stench of the Rev’s hatred for all things white.
Then BO delivers some lofty oratorical about opening a dialogue on race.
Then when BO is asked about his hate-mongering Rev he doesn’t want to talk about it.
Where is the open dialogue BO?
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
I just have to respond to AJCM’s first post (sit down and SHAADAAAAAP PoFO, we are not one and the same you liberal nut).
*How is the inflammatory hate rhetoric of Obambi’s preacher any different from that of conservative talk radio hosts like Hannity or Limbaugh?-Urinal [The Vent]”
That^^ is the disease of liberalism. Didn’t I just say earlier that anything a Conservative says is deemed as “hate” by liberals? You know, Nazis used the same tactic against their resistance.
“This is what is known as a righteous self defense shooting, something the drive by media usually buries in their dumpsters.”
I guess that’s why they all collectively wet their panties when the Supreme Court looked at the Second Amendment recently. Let’s take two extremes. We have Washington DC, the epitome of liberalism in local governance, banning all handguns. Then we have Kennesaw, GA, a city that still has on it’s books a law from 1982 mandating that EVERY household have a gun (non-reinforced of course, but the law from 1982 dates back to the 1800s).
Now, who wants to compare crime rates per capita in Kennesaw and those in Washington DC? Whatever a liberal is for, go against it. Whatever a liberal is against, go for it. You can’t go wrong. Every time.
“By the way, that was a perfect situation [home invasion] for a .45 ACP 230 grain Speer Gold Dot JHP launched from a Ruger P345. Less messy.”
I’d rather keep it more simple: a good old fashioned Mossberg 500A using 8 pellet 000 buck. Who cares about the mess. Let the government clean it up.
(I can already hear the liberals scurrying around for the “hate” word here…)
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
President Bush and his band of cowards believes that the occupation of Iraq is “worth the sacrifice.”
The question then becomes - sacrifice by whom?
What about George Bush’s daughters - Jenna and Barbara?
Prince Harry served in Afghanistan.
Senator Jim Webb and Senator John McCain each have a son who has served in Iraq.
During World War II four of Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s sons entered the armed forces, as did General Eisenhower’s son, John Eisenhower.
No double standard for them.
So, why not Jenna and Barbara Bush?
And why not military service for the children of ALL the gutless members of Congress - who have funded this botched occupation in Iraq?
There is a certain moral authority to govern - setting an example - sharing in the sacrifice initiated by the White House - that escape George W. Bush and Dick Cheney and their enablers in Congress.
They have children who apparently followed the example of Dickhead Cheney’s “priorities other than military service” garbage and who have declined to serve during the Iraq war.
While almost four thousand young American men and women have died in this needless, GOP chosen war.
(And yes I realize that for mathematically and reality challenged neo-cons like the never-served, never-will Dufus, 110 spineless Democrats out of 258, who voted to play along with King George II is a majority, while the 263 Republican apparatchiks out of 270 - merely 97% - who voted to give you-know-who the power to do you-know-what is irrelevant.)
And tens of thousands have been seriously injured and maimed for life.
Why this double standard?
We all know.
Yet there is a simple cure for this double standard.
It’s called - draft at the top.
Pass a law that says this - whenever Congress and the White House take our country to war, all able-bodied military-age children of every member of Congress, the President and the Vice-President will be conscripted automatically into the armed forces.
By Scott
March 22, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Liberal apologists who grasp the devastating impact the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has on Barack Obama’s chances of being elected president of the United States this year join the candidate in explanation and excuses. Sorry. No cigar.
About some things most Americans have no sense of humor. The anti-American rhetoric of Obama’s preacher ranks high among them. Sure, no member of the congregation is responsible for the loopy, inflammatory or racist rhetoric of the man in the pulpit. But 20 years? You sit there for 20 years with your children, and just now, when the world sees documentary evidence of his extremism, do you condemn “the statements of Rev. Wright that have caused such controversy.” ** “Anti-American?” Maybe on the surface. But what about the injustices Rev. Wright is condemning? Injustices perpetrated by the government, by the power-drunken individuals and the machine they created (or vice-versa)? These are at the core of the REAL “Anti-America,” and to draw attention to them, to condemn them as the tyranny they are, is not anti-American; it is at the spirit of true Americanism, it is in a way REAL patriotism.
This is very hard for many of us to see, because the dark side of America’s history and present has been skillfully hidden from us, to the point of near invisibility. This is why we must always actively educate ourselves, and seek to go beyond the veil, the veneer, the droning pundits and politicians. To find out the truth, even small bits of the truth, takes perseverance and much energy; it is a difficult task. The easy thing to do is to blindly accept what is fed to us through the news channels, pop culture, or those in positions of authority (that this controversy should hinge on the words of a preacher is significant and perhaps ironic, since no less “loopy, inflammatory, and racist rhetoric” has been and continues to be spewed by other so-called “men of God” of all stripes.)
Yet now more than ever before, we MUST rise to the challenge. We are at a unique point in history, a tipping point, and we cannot afford to fail. Perhaps the reason so many young people support Barack Obama is that WE WILL PAY THE CONSEQUENCES for whatever happens during this moment in history; yet it is up to us ALL to find the way. * But of course. Absolutely. Those particular words have probably killed his chances of being elected president of the United States this year. Condemning them now, while necessary, is a waterboarded declaration. * No. Waterboarding is a form of torture—used during the Spanish Inquisition, by the Japanese and Gestapo during WWII, and by the CIA against prisoners held unconstitutionally at Guantanamo Bay—where the subject experiences the effect of drowning and is made to believe that death is imminent. Possible effects include extreme pain, brain and lung damage, broken bones, and death, as well as psychological effects which may last for years after the procedure. It is widely condemned as torture by legal authorities, war veterans, intelligence officials, military judges, and human rights organizations. It is also considered ineffective as an interrogation technique, since subjects believe they are dying and will thus admit to anything.
By such a casual treatment of this issue, by drawing such an incongruous analogy, by making light of atrocities carried out in the name of the American people, in violation of the laws of both our country and the international community, you betray us all as citizens and humans. I have no idea what privileges, power, or treasure have been your reward for such betrayal, or whether you have been a conscious or unconscious recipient, but it seems tragically appropriate on this Good Friday. * That’s not to say the sentiment’s not genuine. Public reaction may very well have informed him, for the first time, that the sort of recreational anti-Americanism that ordinarily goes unchallenged when it emanates from “this nation’s original sin of slavery” is deeply offensive to the Middle America that sees an entirely different America. * If indeed this supposed Middle America (whomever this may constitute) sees “an entirely different America,” it can thank the mainstream media for so often providing ANYTHING BUT “fair and balanced” facts—and the hogwash, distractions, and poisonous half-truths which are so often provided in their place—for this ignorance, this woefully limited perspective. You are to blame. * This has been a major sticking point with the left for decades now. It’s that pervasive view that America is evil, that its institutions are corrupt and that unless constrained by international laws, codes, treaties and mores, we will pillage and destroy under the guise of liberty and defile the world’s nest to satisfy our lust for oil and greed for consumables. * Ummm……
Corrupt institutions? Surely not. A duty to abide by “international laws, codes, treaties, and mores?” Ha! After all, it’s not like these are laws, codes, and treaties to which we are already a party. Like the Geneva Convention. Or the UN. And besides, we are American citizens—not members of a global human race, facing unique global crises, many of which have been created or catalyzed predominantly by our nation!….
As for “pillaging, defiling, and destroying,” out of a “lust for oil and greed for consumables”—and, to go one step further, out of an unquenchable, insane, ultimately suicidal desire for power—we can surely dismiss that with a George W. chuckle. Just ask the untold millions of victims of NAFTA, the School of the Americas, Jim Crow, the Project for a New American Century, the War on Drugs, or the conflicts in Palestine, Darfur, Afghanistan, Southeast Asia, Latin America, Eastern Europe, and Iraq. And if asking them proves difficult (especially since many millions had their lives snuffed out), ask all the American citizens—whether poor or part of your so-called “Middle America”—who wonder why their schools, communities, retirement funds, and environment are falling apart. But don’t tell them that the money for fixing these problems has gone to support unnecessary wars predicated on securing oil, consumables, and power—wars which may or may not make the news, may or may not accomplish their mission, but which certainly do succeed in “pillaging, defiling, and destroying.” * So it is that the Constitution becomes a reference document to be considered in the context of the laws of other nations. So it is that the Kyoto treaty becomes the document needed to keep us from contributing an “unfair” share of the world’s greenhouse gases. So it is that international opinion should define when and how America acts in its national security interests. * So let us then rely on the Constitution strictly for what it is; if we did, we would not need international “opinion” to tell us that to fight enemies we have ourselves created by means of terrible oppression—enemies who clearly cannot pose a “clear and present danger” to our homeland, but are simply unfortunate enough to get in the way of the machine’s relentless quest for power—is unnecessary, unconscionable, and illegal.
Furthermore, we cannot act as if we are in a vacuum, or as if it is our duty to rule the world. We are not, and it is not. We must choose policies which look forward, towards common challenges and a common future. We must choose policy-makers who are willing to work with other leaders to navigate the perilous times ahead, rather than ignoring them or running over them. The challenges we face are too great to be overcome alone. * And when we don’t heel to the policies advocated by the left we, in their view, invite disaster — 9/11, for example. The American left in the black community adds the additional grievance of “this nation’s original sin” as moral justification for rhetoric such as that uttered by Wright, rhetoric said to be standard fare in the pulpits of some black churches. * If we continue on the path we have taken, we will continue to invite disaster. If we continue to choose policies which inflict poverty, hopelessness, resentment, and hatred, we will no doubt again pay the price. It is the path to empire, and history has shown us that there can only be one outcome for this path. If we continue on this path, the only question will be: on what scale will the disaster ultimately come? How will we measure the cost? In thousands of lives, millions, an entire world destroyed? * If it is, it’s a corrosive invitation to see America as a vile and irredeemable society unworthy of engagement. * Yet it is permissible, even laudable, to write off the disaster of Katrina (and the indifference shown by the government towards the plight of these innocent victims) as the consequence of a different kind of “sin?” As John Hagee has done from his pulpit?
The point, however, is not to dismiss our society as “unworthy of engagement,” but on the contrary, to seize this opportunity to engage! We cannot afford to remain disengaged, or to dismiss society. But it follows that we can ill afford to ignore the problems which confront us. And if we haven’t yet been shown these problems, we cannot leave our heads in the sand. All this is at the core of Barack Obama’s message: that with courage comes change, that with hope comes victory. ** Obama cites his own journey as evidence that Wright’s view is wrong. “I will never forget that in no other country on Earth is my story even possible.” Wright’s “profound mistake” was to speak “as if our society was static, as if no progress has been made.” But, said Obama on Tuesday, “what we know — what we have seen — is that America can change.”
While that’s undeniably so, that optimism contrasts with the rhetoric most often heard where race and liberalism converge. Even his wife, Michelle, a woman who has enjoyed the richness and privilege accorded the elite in America, says now that “for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country.” The first time? Stunning.
Obama asserted the obvious, too, that the world is not static; societies move. Yet his Tuesday speech was yesterday’s liberalism earnestly and eloquently presented as a call for a move beyond race. It was a rehash of arguments aired repeatedly and debated fully for decades in defense of programs to enact or preserve racial preferences in hiring, admissions and contracting, for example, and to pour more public money into failed approaches to education. And, of course, it comes with the requisite trashing of the greedy corporations that parade through neighborhoods whimsically shuttering mills and sending the jobs overseas “for nothing more than a profit.”
He sees a nation, too, that fills emergency rooms with the sick and unprotected because they “don’t have the power to overcome the special interests in Washington.”
Who could love that America?
But that is not the one most Americans see and know. ** On the contrary, most Americans have seen all too well the disintegration of our education system, our economy, our system of morals, our healthcare system, our very communities. And if this knowledge has been pushed to the back of our minds, to become a nagging undercurrent of pessimism, insecurity, confusion—if what we “see and know” no longer makes any sense, and we have sunk into numbness—it is because those like YOU have flooded us with images of a false reality, and told us over and over to believe in it. You have peddled the poison handed down to you by your masters, and we have bought it and drunk it. Now we must learn to spit it out, wake up, fight back, and find out the true reality, in the hope that it is not too late to right its awful course, at least a little….
Whatever measure of dignity and goodness and righteousness and love remains, against all odds, it is reason enough to hope.**
By Dusty
March 22, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
Me@11:26
Since your post pinpoints slavery, perhaps you should read a little more about it. There is no excuse for slavery. America realized that over 100 years ago. But all nations have not.
Go to Google and type in “slavery in modern Africa”. You will find that slavery existed in Africa long before Europeans came. And it STILL exists.
You can find slavery in Chad, Mali, Mauritania, Niger and Sudan. There is a CHILD slave trade in Ghana, Togo, Benin and Ethiopia.
If you think you are suffering, perhaps you should realize and work against present day suffering as slaves.
Apologies will never erase the past. Our apology was made in actuality over 100 years ago. If you are an American, you have the freedom that belongs to every citizen of this country. Enjoy what many people around the world would love to have.
By Glenn
March 22, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
Is there a Proctor in the house? Could one of you angels of mercy kindly tend to Scott, instead of abandoning him to the throes of advanced-stage CCCP, (Compulsive Civil Control Psychosis)?
By ron
March 22, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
Good afternoon Jim,Good column today.I can’t expound much on what I’ve already said about Obama,except this;many of my ancestors have fought in wars supporting this country.The origional American ancestor fought in the Revolution.My Great Great Grandfather went down from Maine and fought at Gettysberg,and other places.Others were in the First and Second World Wars.An uncle served in Korea.My son served with distinction in Panama,of all places.My own service was way to the East in a country I no longer mention.As far as I know,none of us ever sat in a room for 20 minutes and listened to someone run down America.Let alone 20 years.Se why I don’t care for you,Obama?
By WTF?
March 22, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
Pass a law that says this - whenever Congress and the White House take our country to war, all able-bodied military-age children of every member of Congress, the President and the Vice-President will be conscripted automatically into the armed forces.
ScraMVet supports enslaving people against their will?
All able-bodied military-age children who are on welfare should be conscripted automatically into the armed forces earning their entitlements.
Do you want to go down that road dumbazz?
You’re an idiot!
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
“The question then becomes - sacrifice by whom? What about George Bush’s daughters - Jenna and Barbara?”
Sales Weasel: do you EVER not get tired of saying the same thing here OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER?
Yes. We get it. You don’t support Iraq and the troops there.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this
“WTF”: welcome to the disease of liberalism well exposed, thanks to AmWay the Sales Weasel.
Don’t say I never warned you about the disease.
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Dufus (and the mouse/gerbil in your pants),
And you, a gutless, Bill Clinton like, draft dodger at heart POS do support the troops?
What a laugh…
Sure, WTF for a brain, draft them too.
AND YOU. And all of the other chest-pounding chickenhawk service avoiders.
By WTF?
March 22, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this
LOL Rufus. The ScraMvet would do well to overhaul his ol’ jalopy. No need for an engine lift, a couple of chopsticks could remove his stirfried liberal brain.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
I just can’t let the gun topic go away for some reason. Yes, let’s all be like good little pantywaste liberals and lay down our arms and surrender to their beloved God, government:
WEST COVINA, California (AP) — A woman made a 911 call from her suburban mansion to report an attempted break-in, but her pleas were interrupted by gunshots, then silence: She had been shot to death.
Whatever a liberal is for, go against it. Whatever a liberal is against, go for it. You can’t go wrong. Every time.
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
So Dufus, of the infallible logic, how do you square calling me a liberal when I am calling for the nation to re-implement conscription.
Across the board for all you brave men and women like WTF for a brain.
Doesn’t sound liberal to me.
What is VERY liberal, is your using that paragon of valor, Bill Clinton, as a roll model for avoiding military service.
Let me guess; your dad was a draft dodger and the apple didn’t all far from the tree.
So your enmity for veterans is not at all surprising. But salesmen too?
Most peculiar, indeed, roofies.
Let me guess, you work in the “food service” industry!
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
Hey BTW Doof and Why the Fraud, who are you girls voting for in November?
Hillary?
McCain is a vet, so that rules him out.
I know, I know. His combat experience in SE Asia, doesn’t really compare with the fighter-pilot hero of the Texas ANG’s fighting valiantly (albeit practically AWOL) in Alabama to campaign for some unknown Republican hack!
NOW that’s your kinda veteran isn’t it?
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
“And you, a gutless, Bill Clinton like, draft dodger at heart POS do support the troops?”
“chickenhawk” <— Hehehe. That’s my all time favorite “insult” by the disease of liberalism.
Awe. Did I upset the poor AmWay Weasel? Listen, if it was ok for your hero Bill Klinton to choose college over military, then it was ok for me. Don’t tell me for ONE SECOND you aren’t a Bill/Hillary fan. If you DENY it, you are a LYING SCUMBAG pos liberal. (One and the same as far as I’m concerned).
Excuse me folks, sometimes the disease of liberalism needs some bad tasting medicine.
Anyway, moving on…
After the Democratic primary in South Carolina turned racially divisive in January, Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama essentially declared a truce and put a stop to fighting between their camps. But this week, race has once again begun casting a pall over the battle between the two.
I may have brought this up before. If I did, forgive me. I can only keep so many stories of the disease of liberalism in my head.
Aren’t the liberal democrats the ones telling us that we should not look at each other or judge each other by the color of our skins, our sex, our creed, or our sexual orientation? Oh wait, these are the same people who thrive on keeping us all in some sort of category for their manipulation.
Like raising a child who kills his parents, just look at what liberals and democrats have done to themselves during Election Year 2008.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Hey Scott at 11:49 -
That was good stuff, but next time, break up your thoughts into multiple posts. Liberals here have too short of an attention span, like their constituents who base their voting druthers on the headlines of the New York Slimes and Atlanta Communist Manifesto.
AmWay the Sales Weasel at 12:37 -
Are you ok? I mean REALLY. Are you ok? I’m starting to get concerned about you. REALLY.
I will not be held responsible for you going into convulsions over blog comments. REALLY.
By WTF?
March 22, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
Hey MaamVet. John Kerry is liberal through and through. He’s a vet and liberal whiner/liar just like YOU.
I’m a McCain guy not that it’s any of your god damn america business.
You’re still an idiot!
By Howard
March 22, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
Regarding Bill Richardson … what was this ‘prominent’ proud hispanic governor’s hispanic name, before he changed it to Richardson?
Obama talks about listening to the voters vs. the delegates … however, Hillary won the popular vote in New Mexico, and yet Obama is more than ready to have Richardson provide his ‘super deligate’ vote for Obama???
I noticed that CNN devotes much more ink to Obama than Hillary.
ROLAND MARTIN WHITE WASHES WRIGHT & OBAMA
I’ve always felt that Roland Martin was biased toward Obama. On news programs he always adds some spin to let Obama … and, now Wright look better. First of all … CNN’s title of the article is ‘The Full Story’ … huh uh … CNN’S full story maybe. Plus, who cares if an ambassador wrote most of the ‘chickens coming home to roost’ speech. Martin makes a big thing about ‘context’ … and, yet the ambassador’s context was much different than Wright’s … not to mention, less emotional … less incendiary … and, over a period of time, not in a context of speeches that were racially explosive, divisive, anti-American (‘god damn America’… the government created AIDS to get rid of blacks … 911 govt. conspiracy … etc.) … and, not after giving Louis Farrakan a lifetime achievement award … that’s context! Personally, I don’t need Roland Martin’s INTERPRETATION … Martin’s article doesn’t justify Obama exposing himself, and his family to Wright’s racist associations, and hate speech for over 20 years … (another aspect of context). As eloquent a speech writer and speaker Obama is … I think his ambition over shadows his honesty and patriotism … and, I don’t trust him.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
“So Dufus, of the infallible logic, how do you square calling me a liberal when I am calling for the nation to re-implement conscription.”
Because you are one. Do you have a problem with being called a liberal, liberal?
“Across the board for all you brave men and women like WTF for a brain. Doesn’t sound liberal to me.”
I will go to sleep tonight worrying like hell what YOU THINK, Weasel.
“What is VERY liberal, is your using that paragon of valor, Bill Clinton, as a roll model for avoiding military service.”
Wrong as usual. If he was good enough to avoid service and go to college while going up against a WWII Navy TBM pilot during the election of 1992, then I’m good enough to have made my decision.
“Let me guess; your dad was a draft dodger and the apple didn’t all far from the tree.”
No, I’m not a liberal punkass hippy nor am I the son of one.
“So your enmity for veterans is not at all surprising. But salesmen too?”
Awe. Again. You lash out here and call everyone names then when it comes back around, you wet your bed. SO not surprising from a liberal.
“Let me guess, you work in the “food service” industry!”
Awe. You seem so conerned about my general welfare! Getting personal are we? Ever notice how I really don’t give a damn about your personal life (or any other liberal here)? Anyway, not since I was teen while in high school I haven’t. But back in those days, we youths had brains and weren’t concerned about a “livable wage.” After all, we knew that we’d be moving on to bigger and better things without the help of some halfassed liberal demonRAT telling us all that our lives are pure hell and tormented in the most misery seen since 1929.
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this
Hey Doofloppus Clinton and why the fake name, is this one of your kin?
I saw it and couldn’t help but think of you two brownies!
But maybe he’s just another garden-variety chest pounding Republican never-served, never-will chickenhawk.
NEW CASTLE, Colo. — A Colorado man is accused of stealing an Army veteran’s identity and using it for 24 years to get married, obtain free medical treatment and even serve as president of a VFW post.
Mark Mulcahy, 46, faces felony charges of identity theft, forgery and criminal impersonation. He was being held in the Garfield County jail Friday in lieu of $45,000 bail. It wasn’t known whether he had an attorney.
Mulcahy obtained a military retirement document in 1984 in the name of David Keith Anderson of Modesto, Calif., according to an arrest warrant affidavit.
And you really, truly are intentionally delusional aren’t you? Which is a strange trait I find very often in you reality challenged neo-cons.
Ask ANYBODY here to confirm that I have said repeatedly I will vote for Sen. Clinton when hell freezes over. Or better yet look it up yourself, fool.
No matter how you slice it though, you fake conservatives, scared of your shadow, draft dodgers and Christian frauds are going to take yet another major league, industrial strength a$$-kicking in the fall.
Live it. Own it. The fun is only beginning.
(And that this Rev. Wright creep is a liberal just shows how Jesus and money can make a man talk in tongues regardless of whether he votes R or D. Like Falwell, Robertson et al, he too can go to his imaginary hell.)
And watching that “conservative” smack-down, Part Deux, is going to be great fun to watch (again).
By Unity
March 22, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
Obama’s clarification on some misquotes re Wright
This might be of use in rebutting the ‘contradiction’ meme which has been making the rounds based on the one point in Obama’s speech.
http://blogs. abcnews. com/politicalpunch/2008/03/obama-attempts. html
“One clarification, because I’ve noticed some of the commentary about the speech - it’s been suggested by a number of conservative commentators, but even some that were favorably disposed towards the speech — that somehow there was a flip-flop or a contradiction between previous statements about not being aware of Rev. Wright’s statements and my statement in the speech that I was aware of controversial statements he’s made.
“There’s no contradiction there. So I want to be very clear. I was not aware that he had made some of most offensive statements that had been looping on the internet and on the television news.
“I wasn’t aware of the AIDS conspiracy statement, which I think is completely out of line and off the wall.
“I wasn’t aware of his statements, ‘God damn America’ Those statements were not ones that I knew about until the story broke a week and a half ago.
“The 9/11 statement I became aware of in the New York Times after I announced my candidacy. And as I said in my previous statement, the reason I did not decide to leave the church was because I saw Rev. Wright retiring.
“Now, I was aware of controversial statements. As I said, he has been a fierce critic on occasion of US foreign policy and domestic policy and in fact in my first book ‘Dreams of My Father,’ and in ‘The Audacity of Hope’ I quote him making a comment about racism that I think would be considered controversial but I didn’t think was beyond the pale.
“So that’s distinction that I would make. I just wanted to make sure people were clear - I know Joe Klein had column, for example, that suggested I had admitted something that I didn’t previously, but there’s no contradiction there. I just want to make that as clear as possible.
By Journalism 102: How To Miss the Story
March 22, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
Get a load of this…
Phoenix Sun-Herald
Saturday, March 22
McCAIN ADMITS TO ‘PSYCHIC’ CONNECTION
Scotsdale — Sen. John McCain admitted Friday that his pastor is in the habit of “channeling” during church services. The admission came after a video was published Wednesday on the popular website YouTube.com, showing the Senior Pastor of McCain’s church serving as a “vessel” of the “Ascended One” for the benefit of McCain’s fellow congregants in a worship service that many say bordered on “the bizarre”.
In a candid and wide-ranging interview with the Sun-Herald’s editorial board Friday, McCain defended his church of 20 years, Scotsdale’s First Church of Christ, Scientologist, and its leader, Rev. Elizabeth Theta-Chi. In the YouTube video, Theta-Chi is seen announcing, after an introductory prayer, that she is the “corporeal host” of science fiction writer and cult founder L. Ron Hubbard, who died in 1986. She then delivers a “message” from Hubbard before resuming her reading of Christian scripture.
“I realize that it would seem very peculiar to most Americans,” McCain told the Sun-Herald, “and probably even extremely unusual,” but that such reactions represent “a profound misunderstanding of Reverend Theta-Chi,” whose “unique Christian message,” he said, should be judged on its own merits, separate from the “teachings” of Hubbard.
McCain asserted that “this whole incident” has been taken out of the context of First Church of Christ and of the larger tradition of the Arizona Church. In Arizona religious tradition, he pointed out, there is a respected history of incorporating Native American spiritual practices, including consultations with the spirits of those now deceased.
Confronted with excerpts from two of Hubbard’s novels containing lewd, explicit and overtly sexist language, McCain responded by stating that he had been made aware of the books in question “only yesterday”. “Not only that,” he said, “but I abhor such prurient language and my record shows that I have always been opposed to sexism.” Asked whether he had discussed the matter with Theta-Chi, who has been unavailable for comment this week, McCain said that he had not done so, but suggested that were she to endorse the offensive language used by the “Ascended” Hubbard, “it would be,” in McCain’s words, “simply inexcusable.”
McCain abruptly broke off the interview after being shown the results of a new Sun-Herald/Gallop poll indicating an 8 percent drop in support for McCain among Undecided voters nationwide since midweek, when the Theta-Chi video first caused a stir on the Internet. In parting, the Senator announced his plans to deliver a “major speech” on Tuesday in defense of religious liberty and what he called “the sad history of sexism” in the United States.
“I chose this moment in history to run for President,” McCain said, “so that I can lead us on a journey of discovery and transcendence of the chasm that lies between the darkness within us and the Light that beckons us ahead.”
By Unity
March 22, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
Will Rush Limbaugh Be Indicted for Voter Fraud? By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet Posted on March 21, 2008, Printed on March 21, 2008 http://www. alternet. org/story/80392/
As the board of election in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, where Cleveland is located, launches an investigation into illegal crossover voting in the state’s 2008 presidential primary, a big open question remains unanswered: Will county officials go after the ringleaders of apparently illegal electioneering where thousands of Republican voters swore — under penalty of law — allegiance to the Democratic Party in order to vote for Hillary Clinton?
In case you missed it, Rush Limbaugh, the nation’s top-rated talk radio host, was urging Republicans in Texas and Ohio to skip their party’s primary on March 4 and instead cast a vote for Hillary Clinton in order to prolong the fight between her and Barack Obama. And that Tuesday, as media in both states reported, thousands of Republicans did just what Limbaugh and others had suggested — they changed parties to vote for Clinton.
“I want Hillary to stay in this, Laura,” Limbaugh told Laura Ingraham on Feb. 29, near the start of his Hillary crusade. “This is too good a soap opera. We need Barack Obama bloodied up politically, and it’s obvious that the Republicans are not going to do it and don’t have the stomach for it, as you probably know.”
And on Wednesday, the day after the Ohio primary, Fox News asked Clinton if she owed Limbaugh a thank you. “Be careful what you wish for, Rush,” she replied. Later that day, Limbaugh played the Fox tape on his show and said, “How do you interpret this, folks? She could have said thank you. She could have said thank you! In fact, I was expecting in her victory speech last night to be thanked.
“I helped give Mrs. Clinton the biggest and happiest moment and night of the campaign season so far, maybe her life, and she tells me, “Be careful what you wish for, Rush”? Why, that sounds like a threat, does it not? I’ve got a Democrat presidential candidate threatening your host. Why, I am stunned! After all I did …”
While this all makes for great talk radio and sounds like fun, there is one catch: What Limbaugh encouraged Republican voters to do in Ohio was a fifth-degree felony in that state, punishable with a $2,500 fine and six to 12 months in jail. That is because in order to change party affiliation in Ohio, voters have to fill out a form swearing allegiance to that party’s principles “under penalty of election falsification.”
On Thursday, March 20, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reported that the “Cuyahoga County Board of Election has launched an investigation that could lead to criminal charges against voters who maliciously switched parties for the March 4 presidential primary.” According to the report, “One voter scribbled the following addendum to his pledge as a new Democrat: “For one day only.”
“Such an admission amounts to voter fraud,” the report continued, attributing that conclusion to BOE member Sandy McNair, a Democrat. The report said the four-member board — two Democrats and two Republicans — had yet to vote on whether it would issue subpoenas, although Ohio’s secretary of state, Democrat Jennifer Brunner, is empowered to cast tie-breaking votes when the BOE is deadlocked.
In 2008, 2.22 million Ohioans voted in the Democratic primary, compared to 1.27 million in 2000, according to unofficial results released by Brunner’s office. In contrast, 1.01 million Ohioans voted in the 2008 Republican primary, compared to nearly 918,000 people in 2004.
Both Ohio’s secretary of state and attorney general, both Democrats, were reluctant to embrace the prospect of voter fraud prosecutions.
“Secretary of State Brunner has not been contacted by anyone regarding the prosecution of alleged improper crossover voting,” Brunner spokesman Jeff Ortega said. “Prosecution of such activities is the exclusive domain of the county prosecutor or the Ohio attorney general.”
“We will not make a blanket statement that we would never pursue a case such as that, but it would be our position that a case such as that would be very hard to prosecute,” said Ted Hart, spokesman for Ohio Attorney General Marc Dann, who added that a senior attorney in his office said it would be difficult to ascertain voters’ motives on particular days. “The county prosecutor would have the first right of refusal.”
But Michael Slater of Project Vote, a nonpartisan group that designs voter registration drives for low-income people, said GOP meddling in the Ohio Democratic Primary was a clear-cut example of fraudulent voting, which is how Republicans have defined the issue in recent years, as GOP advocates have urged state legislatures and Congress to adopt anti-fraud measures such as tougher voter ID laws.
“Here we have a real instance of spurring people on to engage in illegal election activities with a real intent to affect the outcome,” Slater said. “That is voter fraud. People were encouraged to break the law. They had to declare allegiance to a political party and sign a document under penalty of perjury. Intent is what matters in voter fraud.”
For years, Republicans have literally made a federal case of voter fraud. The Bush Justice Department fired U.S. attorneys who would not prosecute cases of people who GOP politicos believed were impersonating voters to help Democratic candidates.
Voting rights groups such as ACORN, or the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, which registers millions of low-income people in presidential election years, have been prosecuted by U.S. attorneys for voter fraud — even after ACORN followed the law and alerted the FBI about mistakes made by its volunteers.
After 2004, Republican-controlled legislatures in Florida and Ohio passed laws, now overturned, curtailing voter registration drives under the guise of fighting voter fraud. Meanwhile, numerous states have passed new and tougher voter I.D. laws, all aimed at stopping people who purportedly were impersonating voters.
“I think this is Rush and others inspiring people to commit voter fraud,” Slater said. “They should be brought under investigation.
AlterNet is a nonprofit organization and does not make political endorsements. The opinions expressed by its writers are their own.
Steven Rosenfeld is a senior fellow at Alternet. org and co-author of “What Happened in Ohio: A Documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election,” with Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman (The New Press, 2006).
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By Rufus
March 22, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
“But maybe he’s just another garden-variety chest pounding Republican never-served, never-will chickenhawk.”
You know you are getting to the disease of liberalism when you get singled out. Melikes it.
“No matter how you slice it though, you fake conservatives, scared of your shadow, draft dodgers and Christian frauds are going to take yet another major league, industrial strength a$$-kicking in the fall.”
Weasel, the only downfall here is going to be your health getting so upset over some piddly little political blog. And since the Atlanta Communist Manifesto’s other editorial staff like Jay Bookman and Cynthia Tucker are too cowardly to have a blog and let opposing voices have their voice on it, you can thank Wooten in advance for being here.
“fake conservative”
Weasel, I’ve heard you say that for months here now, and many times I’ve asked this all to no avail, but I’ll ask it again for entertainment value: what is your definition of a “true” conservative?
(clock mark 13:10 EDT 03/22/08)
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
McCAIN ADMITS TO ‘PSYCHIC’ CONNECTION
Scotsdale — Sen. John McCain admitted Friday that his pastor is in the habit of “channeling” during church services.
Oooooooo! I’m SO not going to vote for McCain now after that. Isn’t it a little early for the Oktober Nazi surprise, libs? (Remember, it’s all about hate).
By Musty
March 22, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
I just don’t know about you, Jim Wooten. I think you are showing your true Liberal colors. You call yourself a “Conservative”, but in your column you posted here this very day you call an ordained minister “loopy”. What kind of Conservative would do such a thing, my Liberal friend?
And when you call the Constitution just another “reference document”, isn’t that just a Liberal’s way of dismissing the greatest founding document in world history as just another guidebook among many? A real Conservative would have more respect than you do for the heroes who have given their lives to protect that “reference document”, Liberal Jim.
You are very clever with words, Mr. Liberal, but not enough to fool this little old country lawyer. Time to rename your column “Nonsense Liberalism”.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
Will Rush Limbaugh Be Indicted for Voter Fraud? By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet Posted on March 21, 2008, Printed on March 21, 2008 http://www. alternet. org/story/80392/
Uh, no. If nothing happened to liberal RATs doing the same thing in the past, nothing will happen to Rush or those who did that recently. BTW liberals, this is O-L-D news.
Move along now, little ankle biting pansyasses.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
Due to my lack of any serious relationships whether romantic or family, I am forced to automatically attack anyone who offends me or disagrees with me in any way.
This is also due to my total lack of a clear cut sexual identification.
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
Doofy and Why the Frillyskirt,
Shirley you jest if you think I really care a wit about you or your never-served daddies.
I’m just having fun exposing why you obviously hate veterans and are so scared of serving your country.
All I’ve done is say that you gutless chickenhawks who are not willing to put your money where your mouth is, regarding getting people’s heads shot off, should know that people who have worn the uniform generally see you as gutlessly irrelevant and as naive as a cookie selling girl scout.
But it may not be too late for you courageous little split-tails to head on down to your closest recruiter:
Active Army - 42
Army Reserves (Including National Guard) - 42
Active Air Force - 27
Air Force Reserve (inlcuding National Guard) - 34
Active Navy - 34
Naval Reserves - 39
Active Marines - 28
Marine Corps Reserve - 29
Active Duty Coast Guard - Age 27. Note: up to age 32 for those selected to attend A-school directly upon enlistment (this is mostly for prior service).
Coast Guard Reserves - Age 39.
And the news gets even better, neo-cons!
I understand they have loosened the requirements regarding moral turpitude, so now there’s really NO excuse for you two.
TEN HUT!
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
Sorry, I had to revisit this comment by AmWay the Sales Weasel (and no, not all sales people are weasels - that’s to pacify the diaper soiling bedwetting liberals here like AmWay):
“So Dufus, of the infallible logic, how do you square calling me a liberal when I am calling for the nation to re-implement conscription.”” - Because you are one. Do you have a problem with being called a liberal, liberal?
I forgot to mention that the BIGTIME liberal Charlie Rangel supported reinstating the draft. At least he was MAN ENOUGH to admit the only reason he thought it would be a good idea was to teach chickenhawks <— (my favorite “insult” by the disease of liberalism BTW) a lesson about rushing into war.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
“I said, ‘I’m gonna do whatever I gotta do to help you. Hillary Clinton has never done nothing for us,’” said Sharpton, recounting a conversation with Obama for his followers at his group’s weekly rally.
Hey Rev! I think you need to ask DEMOCRATS IN GENERAL what they have done for you lately!
Hehehe. The world would be a boring place without the Al Sharpie - or the Sales Weasel - or the disease of liberalism.
By hunter
March 22, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
i can’t wait to cancel one of your votes out guys.
By IamVet
March 22, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
So maybe Obama is a Marxist. But at least he won’t be the kind of President who will make sure that the blood on his hands isn’t the blood of his daughters.
His daughters are too young anyway.
What were we talking about? Oh yeah. BUSH, and the WAR and the lies HE tells.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
EVERYONE:
Please read my 1:23 for added clarification.
By Dusty
March 22, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
For heaven’s sake, what happened to the 250 word limit on this blog?
Here are the OFFENDERS: Scott, Journalism 102, Unity, McCain Admits, and Amvet.. the whole lib propaganda group…
Give it a rest and go write a book somewhere else. We’d all give a sigh of relief if you would.
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
J102, thanks for the info.
This election is indisputably one of the strangest ever. And getting Scientology stranger!
The “conservatives” fielded a slate chock full of non-conservative conservative nut jobs and they proceeded to get summarily thrashed by a so-called RINO, a maverick, given up for dead and who is absolutely detested by his own Party’s “leaders” and power brokers.
That the “faithful” are so f&cked they have no choice but to vote for him is absolutely hysterical.
And on the always-weird Dem side we’ve got history in the making as a mulatto male and a Caucasian woman are vying for the nomination.
History indeed.
But I wonder how much is really going to change with any of these people in the West Wing.
My guess? Not much.
What we could really use in this country is for a very popular, viable candidate with the courage to stand before the nation and say, “I don’t need your religion(s) to inform my morality and my integrity”.
The good news is that each time a Wright, a Falwell, a Robertson or a Jackson opens their mouths and speaks this intolerant nonsense, it allows the nation yet another chance to think about how far awry this mythology has taken these people and horrifically now that the neo-cons got their way, our government by proxy as well…
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
“I’m just having fun exposing why you obviously hate veterans” - AmWay
You see folks, AmWay thinks I hate all vets because I disagree with what AmWay says. Did I not mention “hate” here twice already today with regards to mere disagreements in philosophies while poking a little fun at blog names? I mean, it’s not like liberals and AmWay himself have ever done that here, no? Yes. Liberals own hypocrisy.
AmWay, since you are too cowardly to answer my question about defining what YOUR definition of a “true” conservative is, I’ll give you another chance at truth or dare: define “hate.”
By Reality Check
March 22, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
ATTENTION IDIOTS ON THIS BLOG:
Obama is not a marxist. You don’t like being unfairly being called racist, then don’t unfairly call him a marxist.
By TW
March 22, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
AmVet - shame on you for trying to take the fun out of vicarious soldiering! Don’t you get it? Getting to play war without actually having to…play war? It’s beautiful, man. All the comforts of puffing your chest out - without having to worry about it getting shot off!
Sorry Glenn, but your putting ‘bush’ on the same page as ‘JFK’ deserved it.
By Robert
March 22, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
What Rev Wright says, is Not Issue, That Obama for 20 years a Black Power Liberation Member, should be U. S. President - IS !
Obama is a Harvard Lawyer expert using words to deflect and seduce, channeling MLK, JFK, and Lincoln as needed. He understands the core tenants of Black Liberation Theology and HAS CHOSEN to practice it for over 21 YEARS as his personal faith (as has his wife) and adopt it for his children. After Harvard, Obama became a Black Organizer and activist.
The Larger story centers on the faith’ and what the core tenets of that faith are, not merely one of many messengers - Reverend Wright.
The “black liberation” theologians James Cone and Dwight Hopkins pioneered the religion that Obama’s church espouses, and which Rev. Wright both adheres to and preaches.
Some of the main points of this Cult Theology’:
Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. Their Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love. In the black liberation theology taught by Wright, Cone and Hopkins, Jesus Christ is not for all men, but only for the oppressed:
In the New Testament, Jesus is not for all, but for the oppressed, the poor and unwanted of society, and against oppressors. Either God is for black people in their fight for liberation and against the white oppressors, or he is not [Cone].
There are some serious issues to be addressed about WHY Obama chose to join this Black Power cult, and its main message of hatred. He’s in it now, and has been immersed in this core doctrine for over 20 years. Black Panthers are part of Obama Campaign.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
Google these words exactly:
“congressman $.50 gas tax hike”
A liberal Michigan RAT wants to raise gas taxes by fiftacent <—(I like that dude BTW) to help stop America’s pollution. Oh GEE! That will really help the economy!
I see a FoxNews link but not much else representative of the mainstream media. Does anyone other than me find that just A BIT ODD??
I mean, gas goes up a nickel and it’s BLOODY SCREAMING FRONT PAGE HEADLINE NEWS!!!!
You think Rep. John Dingell will walk to work, cut all of his utilities, build an out house, and install a windmill and/or solar panels? The sheer lunacy of liberalism has no end.
By Unity
March 22, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer Fri Mar 21, 6:10 PM ET
WASHINGTON - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton lived hand to mouth during the rush of presidential primaries while Democratic rival Sen. Barack Obama outspent her and put money in the bank.
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New Federal Election Commission reports show Obama raised at a clip of nearly $2 million a day in February, an open spigot of money that left him with $30 million in the bank for March.
Clinton had her best fundraising month as well, at $34.5 million. But counting her debts to vendors she ended with a net $3 million. And that’s not factoring the $5 million she lent her campaign and has not paid back.
The current respite between primaries — the next one is April 22 in Pennsylvania — may cut back on some of the spending. It also denies the two campaigns the head-to-head contests that drive fundraising.
“Fundraising has always been event-driven,” said Donald Fowler, a former Democratic National Committee chairman. “The American people just don’t sit around trying to think up ways of giving up money. Something has to draw attention to the need.”
Fowler, a superdelegate who has endorsed Clinton, conceded that Obama has a network that is better able to raise money quickly. But Obama himself played down his March fundraising on Friday.
“February was pretty exceptional,” Obama told reporters in Oregon, adding that the campaign surprised even itself with the level of Internet fundraising. “I don’t think we would expect to sustain that pace because we don’t have a primary every week.”
But even though he outspent Clinton 2-to-1 heading into the March 4 contests in Texas and Ohio, he lost both those primaries, though he held the edge in a Texas caucus held the same day. Clinton also won the Rhode Island primary that day. Obama’s only clear victory was in Vermont.
“The Obama campaign spent gobs of money leading up to March 4th and we were vastly outspent in every state and the result was three big wins out of four for Senator Clinton,” said Clinton spokesman Jay Carson.
Still, Obama’s fundraising prowess has made states that initially seemed to heavily favor Clinton, like Texas, more competitive.
On Friday, a month before the primary in Pennsylvania, Obama launched three ads in the state, two of them brand new. One is a 60-second commercial that is mostly biographical; the other two are 30-second spots that portray Obama as a politician who fights special interests and who works in a bipartisan way. He trails Clinton in polls conducted in Pennsylvania.
In a bit of good financial news for Clinton, she made inroads in February with small donors, a group that has mostly flocked to Obama. Clinton raised half of her money — $17 million — in contributions of $200 or less, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Campaign Finance Institute. Obama tapped those donors, many of whom give through the Internet, for $30.5 million.
The protracted Democratic contest has been good for Sen. John McCain, who has locked up the Republican nomination. McCain raised only $11 million in February, a fifth of Obama’s total and a third of Clinton’s.
McCain has picked up his fundraising pace for March, and his advisers say that as long as Obama and Clinton are criticizing each other McCain has a relatively open path to introduce himself to a broader national electorate.
“Right now the two of them are running in individual states against each other, not against John McCain,” said McCain senior adviser Charlie Black.
The disparity in fundraising between the Democratic candidates and McCain is also drawing attention to the roles that the national political parties could play in the contest. On that front, the Republicans hold a clear advantage now.
The Republican National Committee reported $25 million cash on hand at the end of February compared to about $4.5 million, after debts, for the Democratic National Committee.
“The imbalance between the DNC and the RNC is a little more lopsided.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
Libjack alert at 1:23 and 1:34. LMAO.
This is the liberal pathetic attempt at shutting up Conservative voices. I warned everyone about the disease of liberalism!
By Dusty
March 22, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
AmVet the recruiter…
Why don’t you tell Obama to go sign up? He could get in some branch of the service. You want us to vote for a president that wouldn’t even fight for his country at any age?
I gathered that your son in the military came home proud of the job they are doing. You did not sound too happy about it. Could it be that you would like us to lose Iraq so you can say “Bush did it”?? (NO..we have NOT lost Iraq.)
By the way, we try to keep it nice over here at Wootens so try to stay in step. Save your usual four letter insults for Luckovich’s lefty blog.
By Fred Moolten
March 22, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
One hundred years from now, when the petty mudslinging has been long forgotten, Barack Obama’s speech may stand with Abraham Lincoln’s Second Inaugural address as among the greatest political speeches in the history of the American union, and perhaps the entire world. Before the recent sniping, I had merely perceived him to be intelligent and political skillful. Now, although I would use the term “great” with extreme caution, he impresses me as a true candidate for that designation - more, perhaps, than any similar American figure in more than half a century. Whether he becomes president will depend in part on how ready we are as a nation to confront truth rather than cliches when we struggle to address this nation’s problems and heal its wounds.
By Dusty
March 22, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
And now comes ROBERT@ 1:43 to break the 250 words limit. Is there no end to long boring liberals posting already printed propaganda?
By Devastator
March 22, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
Most of you morons that are criticizing Obama because of Pastor Wright wasn’t going to vote for him anyway! Before the controversy you were dogging him, so shut the f@ck up!!!
By IamVet
March 22, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
Thank you, Robert, for daring to reveal facts the DNC-AJC and these oh-so-bold liberal bloggers dare not acknowledge, much less explore. I expect you’re also aware that BLT is rooted in Marxism, as is Mr. Obama.
But easy on my brother Cornel. He’s in a different league from Dr. Wright’s. It’s sometimes hard to follow the ideological distinctions, but they do exist. Oh man, do they exist.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
*what is your definition of a “true” conservative?”
(clock mark 13:10 EDT 03/22/08)
Still no answer from AmWay the Sales Weasel I see. That’s ok, I’ve got plenty of time…
By getalife
March 22, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
The reality of the American voters is they will vote gop no matter what their failed party does to destroy our country.
This enables corruption, invading other countries for corporate interests, breaking the law and trashing our Constitution.
Hacks like jim, rush, hannity, etc. encourage this destruction and never call for accountability or justice for their criminals.
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
DooFloppus, you moron. It is truly ironic that YOU use the word cowardly. At the risk of offending the ever-erudite Dirty of the Word Limit, I’ll explain in detail why you are a dumba$$ pusillanimous neo-con.
And why you never-served, never-will fearful phony conservatives have nary a clue how to define your supposed ideology.
I’ve posted ALL of this before, but since you attention deficit disorder and convenient lapses of comprehension preclude you from learning a great deal, I’ll repeat it JUST FOR YOU.
Please you other neo-cons, DO NOT READ the material in my nexy posts, so that I may later lay it on you when you ask the same stupid question.
Dusty, GFY. My son’s military service brings me great satisfaction and pride. That he too chose to enlist during a time of war means he has already done more for this nation than all of these gutless neo-cons added together.
By Dusty
March 22, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
Devastator@1:55
You made that same post yesterday. It wasn’t even correct the first time you used it.
By Journalism 102: How To Miss the Point of the Post
March 22, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
Who is this Dusty, and how in Samhain does she get liberalism out of my post?
By Devastator
March 22, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
Amvet,
You should be nice to Dusty. She can’t help it if the escort service she works for doesn’t cover her paranormal addiction medication.
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
TW, there are few things I find more nauseating than these mini-Saxbys!
I thought that draft at the top idea was a great one!
And you’d think that these so-called “support the troops” types would have jumped right on that bandwagon.
But NOOOOOOOOO!!!
They, as usual, want the poorest and weakest to fight while they, like their courageous Republican leaders, stay home and very comfortably watch it on the news.
So the reality is they don’t support the troops at all. They like the status quo and that the armed forces are being stretched to its very limits is just fine with them.
Provided of course, they never have to DO one single solitary thing to help.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
Diversity 101: Five Easy Steps to Liberal Sensitivity
This is so true I don’t even know where to begin.
Step #1: “Examine and come to terms with your own personal prejudices.”
No sheet. The CSS KKKlinton did that. (geddit it libs??)
Step #2: “Take responsibility for addressing discrimination you encounter on campus.”
And if you are a Conservative on a mostly liberal campus, you are sheet out of luck.
Step #3: “Get involved in activities and events sponsored by different groups…[or] enroll in a semester-long cultural diversity course or workshop, or a course about a culture different from your own.”
What’s wrong with being a part of an organization you are interested in without worrying about the “diversity” aspect of it? What’s wrong with liking and enjoying who you are? What’s wrong with being proud of who you are? Oh wait, we are talking about the disease of liberalism here. My bad.
Step #4: “Make a sincere effort to establish a meaningful relationship with a student of a different ethnic or cultural background or lifestyle.”
What ever happened to live and let live and be proud of who you are? Again, we are talking about the disease of liberalism.
Step #5: “Learn to overcome the tendency to stereotype members of various groups, and instead, try to develop a sensitivity to their feelings and experiences.”
Hahaha. See #1 again and Gerry Ferraro’s comments.
Liberals.
By Dusty
March 22, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
AmVet@1:59
We are all proud of your son and his comrades. I believe you will find that most of those in the military are some of your so named gutless neo-cons.
Too bad that you are against a war in which your son is proud to serve. Maybe he doesn’t hate Bush like you do and understands the problem of terrorists who would like to kill us all. He is brave and smart.
By Devastator
March 22, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
Dusted,
You have mistaken for me someone else. You need to seriously get a new prescription.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
“Most of you morons that are criticizing Obama because of Pastor Wright wasn’t going to vote for him anyway! Before the controversy you were dogging him, so shut the f@ck up!!!”
I agree Toilet Devastator! Now kindly do the same for McCain and his supporters, ah-ight?
Less than twelve hours before Easter Sunday and the liberals here are mouthing off with pseudo four letter F bombs. Sad.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
Someone please respnd to me! I have no one else to talk too. Even my dog told me to F off!
By @@
March 22, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
In AmVet’s defense, I must say he has said he would never vote for Clinton.
He’s obviously not an Obama supporter.
By AmVet August 8, 2007 2:58 PM
Kucinich is the only true candidate for change?
but then after Kucinich pulled out…
By AmVet February 25, 2008 5:54 PM
Hi Paul! What the h&ll do you think I think about Nader joining the fray?
I’m stoked!
I proudly voted for him in 2000 and 2004. I have a great deal to say on this topic (you know me!) but want to go rather slowly.
Let me just say that I would encourage ANY American who wants REAL (not just talk and BS), fundamental change in Washington to look at him closely.
I think he just called Obama a BSer.
He is indisputably the ONLY candidate in my entire lifetime who has the wherewithal, the tenacity and the courage to confront the established political power brokers in BOTH parties.
And aren’t the American people everywhere clamoring for CHANGE!
AmVet, I know you must be elated because somebody up ^^^ there said Nader is polling at 6%.
O-:MG 6 PER CENT!!!!!
WOW!!!
I’m out to plow the garden. My husband is gonna show me how to drive the new tractor. I’m so excited.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
ShAmWay, I hope you have a blood pressure monitor near you. Geeze.
“DooFloppus, you moron. It is truly ironic that YOU use the word cowardly. At the risk of offending the ever-erudite Dirty of the Word Limit, I’ll explain in detail why you are a dumba$$ pusillanimous neo-con.”
It’s a simple question that you fail to answer. Not that I ever really expected you two. I asked two simple questions of you: define “true” conservative and define “hate.” Then you foam at the mouth with a foul keyboard full of vitriol. I’m so NOT surprised. Liberalism is a disease.
“And why you never-served, never-will fearful phony conservatives have nary a clue how to define your supposed ideology.”
I know what my idea of a Conservative is. And no, many current Republicans are not one, including McCain. I’ve really got your Depends in a bunch today, don’t I?
“I’ve posted ALL of this before, but since you attention deficit disorder and convenient lapses of comprehension preclude you from learning a great deal, I’ll repeat it JUST FOR YOU.”
ALL I’ve seen from you is what conservatives are NOT.
But that’s ok. If you want to sit here and rant and make an a-ss out of yourself, that’s your free willed choice. I personally could care less.
By Devastator
March 22, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
Ruf Ruf,
I would if McCain and his supporters were being unfailr attacked. Let me know when that happens and I’ll do the same, deal?
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
You’re right Dirty. He is brave and smart.
Unlike you.
Who is either so amazingly stupid or just plain brainwashed enough that you would dare to speak for him.
You are a walking human insult. And such a joke as to be the very poster-girl of things you know nothing about.
Trust me, I don’t EVER see him being stupid or immoral enough to vote for a George W. Bush.
Or any other neo-con.
By @@
March 22, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
Oh no! Before I go…
AmVet:
Did you really say this?
They, as usual, want the poorest and weakest to fight
Is that ^^^ really what you think about our fighting forces?
You ARE like Kerry.
You should be ashamed of yourself but you’re *too dumb to realize it.
By Dusty
March 22, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
Journalism 102 long.long long..@1:02
Maybe I fell asleep during your monotonous post. Seems you were digging up some story about McCain that sounded like lousy lib lunacies or something close to it. zzzz
Don’t worry about Devastator. He thinks everyone is on drugs like he is. That is why he hallucinates so much and repeats the same posts. Conservatives are happy without that stuff.
By BS detector
March 22, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
There is NO WAY that AmVet has a son. He could never have stopped talking and looking in the mirror long enough to have done what it takes. He also never served. Bank on it.
By Glenn
March 22, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
Don’t be so sure, AmVet. And more importantly, I honor your son for his commitment and courage, and for upholding a noble family tradition and, best of all, for his helping to cover my sorry a$$.
TW, fair enough, always. But the topic was the relative intellectual fitness of presidents, using book authorship as a proxy. And then there’s this, from Lord Jeffrey Archer:
If you have great talent and great energy, you will be a king.
If you have average talent and great energy, you will be a prince.
If you great talent and no energy, you will be a pauper.
So one notices that at least two combinations are absent. That may be because they are the ones that predict for presidential status: great talent + no energy (JFK); and, average talent + average energy (W). But then, you might wish to cube by the Paternal Factor (pf3).
The estimable RevMoselyRight shouted to his congregants that President W(pf3)was a ‘C’ student. Not so; a ‘B’ student, one whose Yale grades were somewhat better than John Kerry’s were.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Toilet Devastator -
Allow me to refresh your memory
Hat tip to @@. Nice work Me Lady.
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
Gawd @@!
I hope you don’t crash that new tractor, because you sure as hell aren’t smart enough to blog here intelligently!
By WTF?
March 22, 2008 12:03 PM |
All able-bodied military-age children who are on welfare should be conscripted automatically into the armed forces earning their entitlements.
Me, later: They, as usual, want the poorest and weakest to fight…
Now take that smelly foot out of your mouth and see if you can figure out how to avoid hitting a building with that machine, you simpleton…
By ?We shall overcome?
March 22, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
Step #5: “Learn to overcome the tendency to stereotype members of various groups, and instead, try to develop a sensitivity to their feelings and experiences.”
OBAMA: “My white grandmother is a typical white person”
There you have it -
liberalism=being brain-dead
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
By Devastator March 22, 2008 2:23PM Ruf Ruf,
LOL. I hadn’t seen those words since Car And Driver’s front page in 1987 on a Porsche 911. Ah, the memories…
By Jackie
March 22, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
@AmVet,
Seems like the brave keyboard warriors have more knowledge than someone who has the actual experience.
How many of them have EVER been in the military?
How many of them have EVER but their hips in the line of fire?
How many of them have EVER been concerned about rockets, bombs, bobby-traps, shooting at a target not knowing if there are innocents in the line of fire?
I say to you, NONE OF THEM, therefore, the amount of lip-service they pay is reflective of the combat badges they earned. They badges are absent and their knowledge of what they are speaking of is non-existent.
By Devastator
March 22, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
Dufus,
You big crybaby! That article was printed on 2/29. Today is 3/22 and you losers are still whining about Obama and his connections.The media flack Obama is getting is a tidal wave compared to what Old A$$ went through. The difference is that you people are demon possessed whiners who don’t know when to quit when they’re losing.
Let me know when you or McDonald’s earns your keep.
‘Til then……p** off lonely boy!
By Dusty
March 22, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
So AmVet@2:23
You are back to your insults. I speak for myself and not your son. I don’t have the faintest idea what his politics are. You were the one who said your son was doing more than all these gutless neo-cons added together. I disagreed about “neocons”. Many conservatives are serving in the military. More than liberals by every count.
Now you are saying it is immoral to vote for a George W. Bush. Bush is not running for a third term and you hate him anyway or any conservative.
Sorry, AmVet, but hate is your own poison. You do not seem rational.
By Journalism 102: How To Miss the Forest and the Trees
March 22, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
You do not find it of interest, Dusty, when John McCain is reported to be a longstanding member of the First Church of Christ, Scientologist? Wow. When you get bored, you really get gang bored.
By getalife
March 22, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Americans need to watch “Why we Fight” to see how easily they were punked on Vietnam and Iraq.
It is amazing how gullible and how they still trust our government.
After all the lies, wasted lives and wasting of your money.
You still trust them.
Unfreakingbelievable.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
“You big crybaby! That article was printed on 2/29. Today is 3/22 and you losers are still whining about Obama and his connections.”
Wipe your toilet, Devastator. On 2/29 was the Obama flap out yet? NO. Sometimes I have to remember I’m dealing with liberals and dumb my thought processes down some. Ok. Here it goes: McCain gets attacked by comments made from some NUT pastor of a church he’s not even a MEMBER OF. Now, whether that ATTACK came two hours ago, two days ago, two weeks ago, or a MONTH ago is irrelevant! The FACT of the matter is that he was ATTACKED for comments made by someone he DIDN’T EVEN FREAKING KNOW!!!
Obama on the other hand, well, let’s just say that even Oprah was smart enough to leave that church about 12 years ago. But you go on ranting. I’ve got to run some errands and do my duty to heat the earth up.
By Devastator
March 22, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this
Dufus,
Ok see you later. Tell all your boyfriends I said hi.
By @@
March 22, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
ScraMVet supports enslaving people against their will?
He said ^^^ that after you selectively chose those that should serve.
All able-bodied military-age children who are on welfare should be conscripted automatically into the armed forces earning their entitlements.
I took ^^^ that to mean that you would be opening up a can of worms. Liberals would have no part in that.
Do you want to go down that road dumbazz?
You’re an idiot!
It’s obvious what he was doing ^^^ there. He was calling you a dumbazz and an idiot for not thinking things through. I agree by the way.
Then you came back at 12:18 and said this:
Sure, WTF for a brain, draft them too.
So in other words, you not only think that our fighting forces are the weakest and the poorest, you think welfare recipients should serve too because they’re dumb and worthless?
I would suggest that you re-read, but you’re blind to your own ignorance. Reading the bumps on your head might be more revealing.
Bye for now AmVet, I’ll be thinking about you while I plow under the old vegetation.
By TW
March 22, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
Great words Glenn, as usual. I’ll just cough at the metion of ‘w’ being an ‘average talent,’ rather than ask you who’s lower on the list.
As far as Kerry, would you say his cognitive capacity trails ‘w’s at a distance greater than ‘w’s military record trails his? Or no? Or ‘so what,’ being that Kerry has not declared yet, nor has either candidate on the left empbraced him the way McCain has ‘w’?
Glenn - I heard that Bagdad has been petitioned with huge concrete barriers and they and the lining of the militia pockets are the only things keeping the pot from boiling over. Is this crap? Please tell me so if it is, as it would break my hear to know that the political process has not stepped up to the plate with the sacrifice of our surge. Also, many said what is happening now in Basra was ineveitable when the Brits bolted - do you know if things have really headed south in that city?
Know you’re busy, but appreciate your insight. Be nice if Mr. Wooten delved into real news now and again.
Oh, and this Rev Wright fella’? Well, ever heard the statement ‘faith without works is dead?’ Be nice if we started judging the product on whether it works, what it has done, instead of what O’Reilly consumer mag says it’s about. After all, aren’t those screaming the loudest at Rev Wright the same one’s who held the WMD parties at their house? The same one’s who said Saddam Flight school supplied the 9/11 terrists? The same ones who said the Bush tax cuts were going to keep us out of the whole in which we now find ourselves. There’s a couple of good quotes out there on a thing they call ‘credibility,’ but I’ll spare you.
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
TW, as Glenn knows, I don’t espouse the position that if you haven’t served in the United States Armed Forces you have no say. FAR from it.
BUT….if you haven’t, and you love Swift-Boaters and vote for Saxby Chambless and think you can trash veterans who disagree with your politics, or that know the first godd@mned thing about ANYTHING of life in the military, you are so full of sh!t that your eyes are brown.
I contend these keyboard kommandos, pu$$ies and posers do not support the troops at all.
They support this “war” and George W. Bush.
And their self-righteous beliefs.
Period.
That they are so freaking stupid they can’t tell the difference is one of the HUGE reasons they are going to get slaughtered AGAIN in these upcoming elections.
3996 KIA.
Read em and weep…
By TEST
March 22, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
Well, Obama is the least objectionable of the three clowns running for the office of el but sniffer. The Hag and Cancer Face are owned and operated by a foreign power, albet one whose American agents wrap themselves in the American Flag as cover for their treason. If Obama promises to reveal his proposed cabinet soon, and said cabinet does not contain IDIOTS with titles like Reverand, then he is still the best bet to get SAVE AMERICA from the Pro Israel Fanatics and Traitors. Sure Obama supports Israel, but he is not owned and operated by agents of Israel. The Hag and Cancer Face cannot say the same thing. Whenever you see Cancer face on the boob tube, there is Lieberswine grinning like the TRAITOR he is in the background.
By TW
March 22, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
AmVet - perfect. The military of a democracy is the salt of the earth. And in return for their sacrifice, I, the civilian, will do all in my power to see that they are never called on to make it. At the top of this list is my patrol, though my vote, of the military’s civilian leadership. Prior to affiliating myself with any political party, this is my duty first and foremost. That said, collectively this country has turned its back on its soldiers by not ensuring the discretion of their commander in chief.
Those who supported Saxby after his folks said what they did about Cleland typify the infection that has all but destroyed the once legitimate Republican party.
By Dusty
March 22, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
Journalism 102@2:55
No, I am not particularly interested in John McCain’s religious membership. I don’t think you were either until you had to offset Obama’s 20 year hiatus with an anti-American minister. THEN you started snooping and insinuating in your lib offensive against John McCain.
Scientology is not for me. But an American of good character and mind…those are the main essentials I desire in a leader. You know. The American Way! John McCain has long proved to be a man with both qualities. You are wasting your time.
So long, I’ve got a busy evening coming up.
By B Hussein Obama
March 22, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
Jeremiah was my preacher
Was a good friend of mine
Never understood a single word he said, seriously
But I helped him drink his whine
And he always had some mighty fine whine
“Hope” to the hood
All the boyz and hoes
“Hope” to the cultists at the DNC
“Hope for you and me*
If I were the Pres-i-dent
Tell you what I’d do
I’d give away free cars and open all the bars
Except in the typical whitey neighborhoods
“Hope” to the hood
All the b!tches and hoes
“Hope” to the racists at the DNC
“Hope for you and me*
You know I love to race bait
Love to stir the hate
I’m a black power marcher and a rainbow coalition rider
A two faced son of a gun
I said I’m a two faced son of a gun
“Hope” to the hood
All the b!tches and hoes
“Hope” to the racists at the DNC
“Hope for you and me*
By Liberal dupes
March 22, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
Mother knows best. Obama’s Israel Shuffle
This Thursday Marty Peretz, the pro-Israel New Republic editor, devoted an article to vouching for Obama, declaring he could be trusted by “friends of Israel.” And if the conduct of his campaign has shown anything, it’s that what Obama might believe “in his heart” and how a President Obama would approach the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are two very different matters. “Will he have the courage to stand up to the Israel lobby and push Israel toward peace?” Lerner asks. “I sincerely doubt it. I see no reason to believe that he will take on that struggle.”
Oopsy duped.
Duping the dumas-ses - Obama’s stock and trade.
By RW-(the original)
March 22, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
There’s a line at the bottom of the story about McCain converting to Scientology over at The Spoof.
The story above is a satire or parody. It is entirely fictitious.
By ron
March 22, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
Something to think about:John Dingell-D-Michigan’s 50 cent tax per gallon proposal has a poll attached to it.46% of Americans are willing to pay it.28% of that number are willing to pay more than 50 cents.10% are willing to pay up to $1 and 8% are willing to pay more than $1.The bill has been shelved until after the 2008 elections.Listennow.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
AmVet -
Since you attempted to get so personal and all and calling my father a chickenhawk draft dodger like you did with me (not that I care about your opinion on me, but family, them be fighting words), I’d like to test you. And no, this is no Google-easy-answer test. You either know this or you do not being a “military” vet. Anyway, here it goes:
Are you familiar with USAA insurance company? Now, you may not be a member of it because they have some pretty high insurance rates on cars, boats, and homes, among other coverages, but they are a good company.
Now, in the old days, they only catered to military officers and their families. Now here’s my two-pronged question: in what year did they cater to enlisted personnel, and what are the two direct prerequisites to being a member of USAA?
I eagerly await your answer, AmVet.
By Journalism 102
March 22, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this
Yes the story is a spoof on the MSM (mainstream media) and their utterly ridiculous focus on Barack Obama’s utterly ridiculous focus on every conceivable angle of the Jeremiah Wright story except for The Story Itself, Obama’s decades of adherence to Marxism. In the parody, the press cover every base except home plate, that “McCain” is himself a Scientologist. That’s why in J-school that draft of the Arizona story would get something like a ‘D’ grade. It’s the same reason why outlets such as Cox Newspapers get a failing grade. Instead of excavating the truth and reporting their findings, letting the chips fall where they may, the MSM simply sit back and let the story come to them one connected piece at a time, and then they just pick out the candies they like and arrange and garnish them with a given news outlet’s favorite adjectives and buzz words. See? Journalism is like a box of chocolates brought to you by the candidates, their donors and flacks and fixers and hacks, and your own competitors dumb enough to leave their candy where you can steal it without copyright infringement.
What? Obama comes out of Marxism? But he never mentioned that in this race, and our competitors aren’t going with that story. But we’ll be right on it, the minute one of our competitors reports it. Marxism! Who knew?
By Jarius
March 22, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this
Yall only like Obama cause he got the white blood in him that make him half white. If he was a true, real BLACK MAN yall wouldnt have no love for him. None yall!
Yall are just HATERZ afraid of what a real BLACK MAN will do to your white women in the bedroom.
DONT HATE APPRECIATE !!!!!!!!!!
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
What roofie, already given up on your desperate attempt at getting educated about American conservatism?
So soon?
So out of frustration you now concoct some sort of mental neo-con quiz show?
What a maroon.
Alas, you “me” generation brats just crave that instant satisfaction doncha?
No patience at all.
I’ve got lots of good (read embarrassing) stuff for you and your never-served chickenhawk pals about why you are neo-cons and wouldn’t know a conservative if he fell in your Mark Foley lap.
But it’s all going to be on my terms and only when I say so. Not you. You’ll just have to defer. (no, not the type of deferment that you Saxbys and Cheneyesque Bill Clinton service avoiders know all about!)
There’s no dishonor in not serving your country, dufus.
And there’s no dishonor that you wouldn’t go within a thousand yards of a recruitment center.
The dishonor comes when a armchair warrior and punk like you uses that fat mouth and overloaded brain to disparage decent, hard working veterans. ANY of them. EVER. And just because you think you know all there is to know about Bush’s occupation.
You don’t know jack sh!t about sacrifice before self or a code of honor.
And you never will.
When you raise your right hand and swear to defend this country against all enemies, foreign and domestic, come back and talk to me about what YOU think of veterans. Only then will you have earned some respect.
But until then, you are just another poser who doesn’t even deserve to be in the same room with American veterans - conservative, liberal, Republican or Democrat.
I warned you weeks ago that you picked the wrong cowboy when you started screwing with me…
By RW-(the original)
March 22, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
Rufus,
I just came in from cutting the grass and saw your question for Blowhard. It seems pretty easy to find the answer with a very simple googls search. I typed history of usaa and found the answers quite easily.
For my part I would say Blowhard probably served. After all without people like him in the service we would never have heard of the term “fragging.”
By AJC Management
March 22, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
{{{{Marohasy: “Actually, no. The head of the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) has actually acknowledged it. He talks about the apparent plateau in temperatures so far this century. So he recognises that in this century, over the past eight years, temperatures have plateaued … This is not what you’d expect, as I said, because if carbon dioxide is driving temperature then you’d expect that, given carbon dioxide levels have been continuing to increase, temperatures should be going up … So (it’s) very unexpected, not something that’s being discussed. It should be being discussed, though, because it’s very significant.”}}}}
{{{{Duffy: “It’s not only that it’s not discussed. We never hear it, do we? Whenever there’s any sort of weather event that can be linked into the global warming orthodoxy, it’s put on the front page. But a fact like that, which is that global warming stopped a decade ago, is virtually never reported, which is extraordinary.”}}}}
{{{{“There’s been a lot of talk about the impact of the sun and that maybe we’re going to go through or are entering a period of less intense solar activity and this could be contributing to the current cooling.”}}}}
Why, I discussed this already.
And as I remember it, the very mention of the Sun and global cooling was met with hysterical shrieking and hair pulling.
Here’s one I didn’t know about and I’m sure Code Pinko will never hold a press conference over:
{{{{Marohasy: “That’s right. The satellite was only launched in 2002 and it enabled the collection of data, not just on temperature but also on cloud formation and water vapour. What all the climate models suggest is that, when you’ve got warming from additional carbon dioxide, this will result in increased water vapour, so you’re going to get a positive feedback. That’s what the models have been indicating. What this great data from the NASA Aqua satellite … (is) actually showing is just the opposite, that with a little bit of warming, weather processes are compensating, so they’re actually limiting the greenhouse effect and you’re getting a negative rather than a positive feedback.”}}}}
NASA, eh?
Even Hanson can’t twist cold hard facts:
{{{{Marohasy: “That’s right … These findings actually aren’t being disputed by the meteorological community. They’re having trouble digesting the findings, they’re acknowledging the findings, they’re acknowledging that the data from NASA’s Aqua satellite is not how the models predict, and I think they’re about to recognise that the models really do need to be overhauled and that when they are overhauled they will probably show greatly reduced future warming projected as a consequence of carbon dioxide.”}}}}
And now for the encore:
{{{{With catastrophe off the agenda, for most people the fog of millennial gloom will lift, at least until attention turns to the prospect of the next ice age. Among the better educated, the sceptical cast of mind that is the basis of empiricism will once again be back in fashion. The delusion that by recycling and catching public transport we can help save the planet will quickly come to be seen for the childish nonsense it was all along.}}}}
Bwa.
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this
Yes, ricky retardo, that your fellow right-wing cretin thinks he asked some brilliant question that couldn’t be easily Googled is pretty hysterical.
In some ways, he kind of reminds me of a younger you. Dumb as a “holes in the fossil record” rock.
Roofie, just have long have you been using the Internets and The Google?
By never again
March 22, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this
Obama’s speech is ringing around the world. He is our leader and next president. America has already risen above the position it was in when there was just Bush, about whom History will wonder aloud, “what were americans thinking?”
and God applauds Obamamania
ever notice how Bush reads his speeches like it’s an entertainment tonight story, with those dramatically intoned narrative fist pumps? He truly is a ridiculous man.
Glenn has smoke coming out of his ears after he read It’s America’s 8:56. Dont worry glenn, it’s just words. (i know, say it dont spray it)
By RW-(the original)
March 22, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
Blowhard,
As I’ve told you before there aren’t holes in the fossil record, there is no fossil record of any species ever becoming a different one.
Do you fall for every mind numbingly stupid liberal theory or do you just go for the big ones like global warming and that your great grandfather was a squid?
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this
I know, I know, ricky.
I just like seeing you practically blow a gasket whenever I use that phrase.
Even Curly doesn’t get so worked up when I utter “wobbles in the earth’s orbit” or “variations in the sun’s temperature” or “cow farts” though!
Hey I don’t know how it is possible, but to me it is uncanny how you neo-cons can be wrong on just about everything.
And that is going to become most evident, albeit way too late for you phony conservatives, come November.
Own it. Live it.
Pray for lots more rain…
By AJC Management
March 22, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this
Listen to multi millionaire Joe Kennedy whine about “Big Oil:”
{{{{Three decades later, we have reached another extraordinary moment. With crude oil prices tripling over the last five years — breaking through the $100-a-barrel mark in recent months — the top 10 domestic producers have generated an eye-popping $818 billion in pretax profits over the same period. In 2007 alone, the top 10 petro-giants operating in the U.S. generated $1.4 trillion in revenues and more than $200 billion in pretax profits. ExxonMobil is recognized as the most profitable company in the history of global commerce; its 2007 profits of $40.6 billion eclipsed its own 2006 record net income of $39.5 billion.}}}}
That’s less than 8% profit.
WTF?
Never mind that it is completely un American to force a company to operate at 5 or 6%, the government already makes more in taxes off of a gallon of gasoline than the oil companies do.
And now this pervert liberal wants more:
{{{{But concessions on expanded exploration and production must be linked to a commensurate industry investment in renewable energy and carbon sequestration. And policy makers should tie leasing and royalty rates on federal lands to oil prices, to ensure that as the value of the fossil fuels increases, so does the revenue to support the rapid development of alternative energy sources.}}}}
Oh, for mindless junk science, I should have known.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this
“What roofie, already given up on your desperate attempt at getting educated about American conservatism?”
You see, that’s part of the disease fo liberalism. I was never “educated” in Conservatism. I gained knowledge over time and fashioned my beliefs accordingly. Unlike, say, you liberals who are indoctrinating our youth into liberalism in public schools.
“Alas, you “me” generation brats just crave that instant satisfaction doncha?”
Now that’s ironic coming from a liberal who’s patrons GOTTA HAVE CHANGE NOW!! Read my $.50 post?
“There’s no dishonor in not serving your country, dufus.”
I already knew that. .
“warrior and punk like you uses that fat mouth and overloaded brain to disparage decent, hard working veterans.”
You only say that because you don’t like what I post. Look at today. I have not insulted you beyond making fun of your name yet you have flown off the handle with insults and pseudo four letter words.
“I warned you weeks ago that you picked the wrong cowboy when you started screwing with me…”
I don’t even try and I get you upset, liberal. Why is that?
By Politics Aside
March 22, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this
Examples of paleontological hybrids are numerous.
By deegee
March 22, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this
“He sees a nation, too, that fills emergency rooms with the sick and unprotected because they “don’t have the power to overcome the special interests in Washington.”
Who could love that America?
But that is not the one most Americans see and know.”
Well, that is mighty democratic of the Wootang man. As long as most Americans don’t see the pain and suffering of the sick and uninsured, then why get in such a snit about it? Tomorrow, when you are dressing up in your Easter finest, remember who said the following, “whatsoever you do to the least of my brethren that you do unto me.”
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this
One other point to ponder: McCain has NEVER touted his service for votes or to get a point across, unlike, say, Kerry.
And then, there’s AmWay. Who has still FAILED to answer two simple questions: define a “true” Conservative and define “hate.”
I guess Mr. Kucinich’s loss is all our loss. And for the slow folks, here, my USAA reference was to let AmWay the Sales Weasel know that I also know what I’m talking about.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
“And for the slow folks”
That was not meant for you RW…
By RW-(the original)
March 22, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
I just like seeing you practically blow a gasket whenever I use that phrase.
Blowhard,
I know it’s tough for you girly libs that react emotionally to everything to see it, but the next time you see me blow a gasket over anything you say will be the first. You ain’t worth it, cowgirl.
By W
March 22, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this
I still need to start seeing those checks coming in for the war effort. That means you, Rufus, {{{{{}}}}}, Dusty, jbmlaw, and the rest of you that have not been paying your fair share of the war tax. Don’t make me start up a draft to get our country’s money’s worth out of your sorry buttocks. Wars cost money. Suck It Up.
Your Leader, W
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this
Oh poor dispirited Rufus, trying to play the martyr now.
Isn’t that cute?
Given you lack of intellectual firepower and cogent arguments, it is little wonder.
I recommend you try Curly and Ricky Retardo’s modus operandi.
Simply take what is generally accepted as the most believable scientific theories of our time and simply refute them by saying they are not provable.
Throw in a little mythology and some “Christian” voo doo and VOILA!
A new improved theory.
I have recommended they read about the chaos theory and Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle but alas it is futile for those who apparently slept through high school.
Granted compared to these three, Darwin was an amateur who had no real significant experience and who knew very little about natural selection, etc.
Like a rock…
Pray for rain.
And redemption.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this
“That means you, Rufus, {{{{{}}}}}, Dusty, jbmlaw, and the rest of you that have not been paying your fair share of the war tax”
Awe quitchawinin’! I pay a “progressive” income tax. I’ll bank that I paid a heck of a lot more than you did in taxes in 2007. I don’t even qualify for the so-called Bush economic tax relief in May.
By W
March 22, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this
Rufus,
Your leader does not like to see his servants whine about paying their fair share of the war tax. Now get down to the recruiter and sign up if you don’t have the bucks. Don’t even start talking to your leader about who gives the most to their country.
Your Leader, W
By RW-(the original)
March 22, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this
Blowhard,
One of my favorites in your evolutionary sequence was Nebraska Man. Didn’t you say you’re from Nebraska? You see they found this one tooth and decided it was half man half ape and from that one tooth the drew the entire Nebraska Man complete with his wife and family and stuck it in textbooks.
It turned out to have been the tooth of an extinct pig. Didn’t you say you’re from Nebraska?
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this
“Given you lack of intellectual firepower and cogent arguments, it is little wonder.”
So that’s why you still “attempt” to engage me, no? Si.
“dribble, drool, froth, blah blah.”
“Pray for rain. And redemption.”
Based upon your hate posts against your fellow Americans today, you’ll need it. I’m cool with My Lord and what I stand for.
By AmVet
March 22, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this
OK, Doofy, it’s been fun making you wait while you slobbered all over your keyboard this afternoon!
So here is the first of numerous installments.
Just say uncle when you clowns have had enough.
And remember you ignorant tramp, this is but the very first out of dozens of links I found on the topic.
What do Neo-Conservatives believe?
Unlike conservatives, neo-cons believe that the United States should not be ashamed to use its unrivaled power – forcefully if necessary – to promote its values around the world.
Unlike conservatives, some neo-cons even speak of the need to cultivate a US empire.
Unlike conservatives, neo-cons believe modern threats facing the US can no longer be reliably contained and therefore must be prevented, sometimes through preemptive military action.
Unlike conservatives, most neocons believe that the US has allowed dangers to gather by not spending enough on defense and not confronting threats aggressively enough. One such threat, they contend, was Saddam Hussein and his pursuit of weapons of mass destruction. Since the 1991 Gulf War, neocons relentlessly advocated Mr. Hussein’s ouster.
(And we all know how that has turned out so far!)
Summary:
Neo-cons use misguided and preemptive military strikes to get their political way.
American conservatives never have.
STEEEEE-RIKE ONE!
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this
Huh. AmWay struck out on the first at bat. No definition of “hate” either. Oh well. Nice rant, but I still don’t see, beyond a MILITARY aspect, you defining a “true” Conservative. But like I said earlier, that’s ok. Your words here are golden, liberal. And I mean that.
By Glenn
March 22, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this
I didn’t read, and still haven’t read, most of the 8:56. The first sentences are insipid, and education consists largely in knowing what not to read.
By RW-(the original)
March 22, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this
Rufus,
If you have any desire to read ahead of Blowhard’s cut and paste job you can do so here.
I guess he’s pretending they’re his own words since this time he’s adding “unlike conservatives” to the plagiarized text.
By Rufus
March 22, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this
RW: the disease of liberalism is here and very real. There is no post here that will surprise me from the left, and that includes lies to get their point across.
By AJC Management
March 23, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this
Queen Pinko waz dazzled by the Obambi screed:
{{{{Barack Obama alluded to that recent history in his widely acclaimed speech in Philadelphia last Tuesday, noting that “anger over welfare and affirmative action helped forge the Reagan coalition.” Still, Obama hopes to forge a multiracial alliance of voters held together by a common economic plight.-Urinal}}}}
It was Bill KKKlintoon that signed welfare reform into law but whatever.
Not very many stick up for a culture where people only have to hang around the house doing drugs and having children to earn $175 every two weeks but I guess you pinkos have your goals in life.
It truly amazes me that someone who is living proof of how easy it is to succeed in America, someone stuck in the horrible, monotonous, capitalist driven regime of having to produce one half baked fantasy land column every 7 days, for what, a hundred and fifty maybe two hundred grand a year, Cynthia, and yet still espouses the virtues of total failure to her apparently mindless readership.
I mean seriously, would it kill this lib to one time say “I made it, so can you.”
Why is it always “you’re doomed.”
I suppose this is what the demokrat kampaign represents, the resurgence of the welfare state, a country whose citizens don’t have to go out in the tewwible world and work, just way dare in bed, you poor suffering things.
One can only imagine how this direction the pandering pimps of laziness are steering us in will fulfill the promise of America, where hard work and ingenuity can produce what others in the world can only dream about, is this what we’ve settled on, the goal of having your very own community bunk bed and a turnip for dinner?
I’m sorry, I got sidetracked there:
{{{{“We have a choice. … We can accept a politics that breeds division and conflict and cynicism. … But if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we’ll be talking about some other distraction. … And nothing will change. ..}}}}
I don’t know, maybe I’m off base here, but it seems as though Reverend Wright is the one “that breeds division and conflict and cynicism” here.
{{{{This time, we want to talk about how the lines in the emergency room are filled with whites and blacks and Hispanics who do not have health care,” he said.}}}}
If they don’t have “health care” what are they doing at the emergency room?
Dr. King brought about the freedom of the blacks to participate in American society, not to be enslaved by it.
All you libs are doing is wasting his efforts, for your purely political reasons, no less.
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{{{{ Life span gap grows between U.S. rich, poor}}}}
And then, within their very own article:
{{{{SOME REASONS FOR THE GAP > Lower-income people are more likely to live in unsafe neighborhoods, to engage in risky or unhealthy behavior and to eat unhealthy food.-Urinal}}}}
So it’s a state sponsored genocide eh, stuffing the poor into decrepit and dangerous housing projects that shorten their lives.
Read all about it in the Urinal.
The very definition of insanity, which most state sponsored genocides are founded on, is doing the same failed thing over and over again.
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Look at the pinkos dragging up some mindless “controversy” trying to cover for Obambi:
{{{{“One of the truly great leaders in America. A moral compass, a spiritual guide.- JOHN McCAIN McCain’s tribute to the controversial Rev. Rod Parsley during a campaign rally. His campaign has emphasized that Parsley is “a” spiritual guide; he’s just not McCain’s spiritual guide.-Urinal}}}}
Nevermind that no one even knows who Parsley is, did McBushie sit in his pews for twenty years?
This Reverend Wright deal must be really, really bad, or really good according to which side you’re looking from, if the pinkos at the Urinal will go to such great lengths to lie and dissemble.
I like it.
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Behold the vicious circle that is government:
{{{{If approved by the Atlanta City Council, water rates in Atlanta will increase by 15 percent for most customers. Because people are using less water, the city has less money to pay for court-ordered water and sewer system improvements.-Urinal}}}}
Mindless bureaucrats drain our drinking water supply on behalf of the environmental terrorists, thereby causing the mindless bureaucrats to get into a bind which We The People have to pay to get them out of.
Typical.
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{{{{When the British Prime Minister Harold Macmillan dumped some of his closest cabinet colleagues to extricate himself from a political crisis, the Liberal leader Jeremy Thorpe responded: “Greater love hath no man than to lay down his friends for his life.” In Philadelphia, Senator Obama topped that: Greater love hath no man than to lay down his gran’ma for his life. In the days that followed, Obama’s interviewers seemed grateful for the introduction of a less complicated villain: Unlike the Reverend Wright, she doesn’t want God to damn America for being no better than al-Qaeda, but on the other hand she did once express her apprehension about a black man on the bus. It’s surely only a matter of days before Keith Olbermann on MSNBC names her his “Worst Person In The World.”(Bwa.) Asked about the sin of racism beating within Gran’ma’s breast, Obama said on TV that “she’s a typical white person.”}}}}
{{{{But America is not Ahmadinejad’s Iran. Free societies live in truth, not in the fever swamps of Jeremiah Wright. The pastor is a fraud, a crock, a mountebank — for, if this truly were a country whose government invented a virus to kill black people, why would they leave him walking around to expose the truth? It is Barack Obama’s choice to entrust his daughters to the spiritual care of such a man for their entire lives, but in Philadelphia the senator attempted to universalize his peculiar judgment — to claim that, given America’s history, it would be unreasonable to expect black men of Jeremiah Wright’s generation not to peddle hateful and damaging lunacies. Isn’t that — what’s the word? — racist? So much for the post-racial candidate.-Mark Steyn}}}}
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{{{{The State Department investigation into how and why the passport files of three presidential candidates were breached is scrutinizing an employee at a Virginia-based company, which is headed by an adviser to Barack Obama’s campaign.}}}}
Aaahhh, yes, the kandidate of “change” sinking to the depths only previously plumbed by the…….KKKlintons.
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Aaahhh, yes, “global warming:”
{{{{It’s just as you suspected - this has been the snowiest winter ever in the Ann Arbor area, or at least since 1880 when record-keeping started.}}}}
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If this is what you mean by the “world” not liking us, it is pretty weak:
{{{{Chile envoy: U.S. prods for war still anger allies- In the months leading up to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration threatened trade reprisals against friendly countries who withheld their support, spied on its allies, and pressed for the recall of U.N. envoys who resisted U.S. pressure to endorse the war, according to an upcoming book by a top Chilean diplomat.-Urinal}}}}
The undersecretary to the ambassador from Luxembourg doesn’t like us, waaaaahhhhhh!!!!!
I hope he doesn’t fly any planes into our buildings.
I guess you sniveling liberals don’t understand what “either you are with us or against us” means.
Study up on it, whiny ones.
By Income Analysis
March 23, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this
Robert Stevens, CEO Lockheed Martin: $24,399,747
Average CEO, top 10 Miltary Contractors: $9,095,756
Average Army Private in combat: $25,942
Happy Easter, ‘supporters of the troops.’
Perhaps a little more church is in order?
By Cynthia
March 23, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this
Dear {{{{{}}}}},
I made it. Why can’t you? Don’t give up though. There’s someone out there for everyone — maybe even you. Now, go hide some Easter Eggs and wait 30 minutes before you go back to search for them. Perhaps some green eggs and ham for breakfast would add a little color to your existence while you let those 30 minutes pass right by. Don’t eat too much sugar at one time. It will give you a tummy ache. I will be thinking of you today so don’t forget that I love you and I hope that some day you too will be able to think good thoughts.
By AJC Management
March 23, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this
I finally found why Reverend Rod Parsley, McCain’s so called spiritual advisor, even though he never spent twenty years in this guy’s pew, is “controversial:”
{{{{McCain’s Spiritual Guide: Destroy Islam- Televangelist Rod Parsley, a key McCain ally in Ohio, has called for eradicating the “false religion.” Will the GOP presidential candidate renounce him?}}}}
{{{{“I cannot tell you how important it is that we understand the true nature of Islam, that we see it for what it really is. In fact, I will tell you this: I do not believe our country can truly fulfill its divine purpose until we understand our historical conflict with Islam. I know that this statement sounds extreme, but I do not shrink from its implications. The fact is that America was founded, in part, with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed, and I believe September 11, 2001, was a generational call to arms that we can no longer ignore.”-Rev Parsley}}}}
Uh, and?
Let us put the shoe on the other foot for a moment-
Day in and day out, liberals bad mouth and seek to destroy Christianity, waging war in the court system and in the public square, saying some of the most hateful and despicable things imaginable.
Who among you pinkos will denounce these actions?
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
By Patrick Malone
March 23, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
Jim, thanks for risking being labeled a racist to state the obvious. Keep trying to bring balance to the opinion page.
By stop the pain
March 23, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
JIM,,, You aging white men are all the same.. full of selected outrage while ignoring the very segregated and narrow minded churches you attend on SUNDAY. GET OVER YOURSELF.. do you agree with everything your pastor, in your segreated church, says? WHERE IS YOUR OUTRAGE??
By Redneck Convert
March 23, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
Well, I didn’t write nothing yesterday on account of somebody else named Redneck Convert done posted and besides you had Sister Dusty to give the redneck point of view. That Sister Dusty, she must be a military vetrun that could kick some librul butt if they give her a chance.
Anyhow, I’m all down in the dumps about who we got running for President. Three libruls, only one calls hisself a Republican and one of the other two is one of Those People and the other one is a cookie baker!
I wish the Rev. Falwell was alive to name a godly manly conservative to run. Next year we won’t even have a Baptist Prayer Service in the White House. How wicked is that?
Have a good Easter everybody. Including you godless Jews and towel-heads that have the wrong relegion.
By W
March 23, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
I find myself standing in front of you today — my loyal followers — looking for the right words to use. It all began back in 2001, it seems so long ago now. We were a peaceful nation, a caring nation back ten, back before that day, a day that has gone down infamously. We were attacked without provocation by those evil ones — ones that came from the evil three —Iran, Iraq, and North Korea. The Axis of Evil. They are even now busy training more evil ones in Afghanistan to do more of their evil bidding. So, I say unto you, my followers, we will go after them now and we shall strike them down and rid the world of this evil plague. We will go into Afghanistan and destroy their bases, then on to Pakistan to root them from their caves. We will pursue them across the sands of Iraq to the borders with Syria and Iran. We will strike out against their weapons programs in North Korea and Iran. We will locate and confiscate their monies in the hands of those in Saudi Arabia, France, Great Britain, and even here in America. We will continue our fight into Russia, China, India, Malaysia, Africa, Spain, and Australia. We will persevere and we will be victorious. We will not, we can not, we must not stop until every single terrorist that would do us harm has been brought to justice — no matter what the cost.
Thank You, Your Leader, W.
By Daedalus
March 23, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
So Jim Wooten wants to tar Obama as a racist, no surprise there. As an extreme social right-winger, Jim longs for the days of the old South. Blacks should know there place and stay there.
Is it any wonder that Jim’s beloved Georgia GOP is 99% white — almost as good as a white’s only country-club.
Don’t worry about an Obama Presidency — the GOPs swift boaters will play the race card like it was 1963 and the “true americans” — the evangelists and race-baiters — will turn out in big numbers to ensure that we don’t have a black man for a President (or a woman, of any color).
By Calista
March 23, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten, I enjoy reading your columns. They are insightful and thought provoking. Senator Obama has become entangled in the politics of the Democrat party and that is unfortunate. I believe with all my heart what Bob Parks says in this column -
The Next Black President Won’t Be A Democrat
The first Black Secretary of State was a Republican. The first Black National Security Advisor was a Republican. The first Black female Secretary of State was a Republican. With that, I predict, the next female or Black person to become President of the United States will be a Republican. Democrats just haven’t “grown” enough.
Watching the Democrats slice and dice each other in this campaign has only served to confirm what I have believed for some time. It is the unvarnished truth.
Happy Easter to you and yours.
By WFC
March 23, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
SWAGGART, BAKKER, FALWELL, ROBERTSON… and about a dozen others. Organized religion is a feeble joke that politicians must “honor.” Wright is no different so what’s the big deal? 9/11 was punishment for homosexuality? Yeah, right. God must be disgusted.
By AJC Management
March 23, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
Packed churches and whining liberals, it must be because…He Lives!!!
By AmVet
March 23, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
At the risk of being struck by lightening on this Christian “holy day”, the Rev. Wright is IMHO obviously a sanctimonious, vicious America hater. And a racist. At times.
I’m sure he believes he has his reasons for saying the repulsive things he does.
And I’m reasonably sure that as a preacher he has concocted some demented way to square those sentiments with his supposed message of brotherly tolerance and forgiveness.
And so in an ironic mirror image he is almost exactly like the semi-malevolent and conflicted white bigoted preachers found here in “the Bible Belt” who also share in the filthy lucre and epitomize what is utterly wrong with that religion.
Previous posters have already noted that Mr. Wooten uses his own bully pulpit here, not to excoriate those Caucasian men of the cloth as well, just happen to share in his “conservative” “big tent” “family values” rhetoric, but instead chooses to give them a complete pass.
And all for the mammon.
Myopia and mythology is a dangerous cocktail. Mix in a little misguided governance and it becomes a Molotov cocktail.
BOOOOM!!!
And the world reels from the damage wrought by the zealous fanatics and religious power brokering nuts, here and elsewhere who will gladly kill in His name…
By TW
March 23, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
Let those who’ve made a fortune off this Republican presidency remember to invest in air conditioning for their coffins.
Happy Easter, all. Pray for the return of the real conservative voice, as it is vital to our county’s debate. Look what’s happened without it.
By W
March 23, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
My fellow followers. As I have told you many times now, war costs money, lots of money. Now, I have worked diligently to cut social programs and introduce tort reform in order to get more money into your pockets. Why do you think I did this. Well, let me remind you — war costs money, lots of money. Start sending those checks to the war effort and start sending them Now. Every moment that you delay means more delays in getting that surge moving ahead.
Let me remind you that we have borrowed all the money that we can. There just isn’t any more to be borrowed. The Saudi’s have cut us off. The Chinese said they have their own problems to deal with — costly problems. The Russians don’t even speak our language. How can I ask Putin for money when he can’t even speak American. We don’t even have the money to run the printing press any more. I know it’s a Bear but we have to be stern about this and insist that you send us more money. We have those rebate checks in the mail so remember to sign them before you send them in to the war effort. Remember, no contribution to the war effort is too large — the bigger the better. Just keep reminding yourselves, my loyal followers, war costs money, lots of money.
Thank You, Your Leader, W
P.S. If you don’t have money, please remember to sign up for a tour. We also have a family plan where fathers and/or mothers, and up to ten children can serve together in the same unit.
By Jack
March 23, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Geo W Bush walked in lock step with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and no one said a word when Falwell and Robertson said this after 9/11…
“The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this…I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way — all of them who have tried to secularize America — I point the finger in their face and say ‘you helped this happen.’” —on the 9/11 attacks
“We have insulted God” with legal abortion and resrictions on religion in public places. “Then we say ‘why does this happen?’ Well, why it’s happening is that God Almighty is lifting his protection from us.”
By getalife
March 23, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
Religion has been hijacked by radical kooks that entered the political arena to not have separation of church and State. Our founders warned us it would fail.
Eliminate Islam vs God damn America. Most wars are religious wars and millions have died in the name of God.
Jesus taught thou shall not kill, love thy neighbor and not bang his wife or kids, feed the poor, sick and hungry but cons do not believe in his teachings.
They believe in abortion for children with bombs, it is okay to hate, steal, kill and welfare is bad for the sick, poor and hungry.
TV preachers have turned it into a billion dollar business and the IRS should make them pay back taxes. We need to have separation of church and State to eliminate the hate and get these kooks out of politics.
Religion kills worse than drugs.
By AmVet
March 23, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
I must confess as a former MOT (is that even possible?) once washed in the blood and a reborn heathen, I enjoyed watching The Ten Commandments on TV last night.
It took me back to a much simpler time when mass (get it papists?) naivety and an unthinking obeisance to tradition, no matter how cockamamie, ruled the day. And the proselytizing religious nut jobs were just sort of a comedic nuisance.
And the movie is great spectacle to be sure. And young shapely babes showing a little cleavage never hurts. But who the hell came up with that crazy beard for Charlton?! That thing was almost as scary as John Bolton’s mustache!
Yes, it was all harmless fun back then, but then the neo-cons got seriously reckless and people started getting their eyes poked out.
And even today the mass (get it papists?) hysteria can still be found, as {{{{{{Curly}}}}}}} alluded to.
The nation is still tormented enough so as to be chock full of Christian frauds who actually get up off of their more than ample rear ends and gather the gumption to turn off their favorite TV charlatan (or cartoon).
Yep, they actually go to visit the rock of Peter (or is it Jesus? I always get those mixed up!) and join in the glorious fellowship on this one day.
And on this one day ONLY.
Black and white. Liberal and “conservative”. Protestant and Roman Catholic.
So yes the church parking lots are full today, {{{{{{Curly}}}}}}}. And next week they will be three quarters empty again.
As usual.
Until next Easter Sunday…
By zeke
March 23, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
GOD forbid that either of those socialist populist communist anti American democrat demogogs is elected President! If that happens we can only hope that Republicans can regain either the house or senate! If not, the US as we know it will be lost forever! We will follow the other socialist failures and cease to be the shinning light for others!
By @@
March 23, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
Would you look at that face!!!
Gorgeous!
New life!
HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE
Off to church…..
By deegee
March 23, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Stand back and analyze the short history of the U.S. The European settlers screwed the Indians, they enslaved the blacks, liberated the blacks then screwed the blacks, now they are screwing the Latinos. Why is it so difficult to imagine that people, at times, get pi$$ed off about that?
By Politics Aside
March 23, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
For the first time in his adult life, Wooten is really ashamed of his country.
America: the country Wooten loves to hate.
By RW-(the original)
March 23, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
Jack,
If by no one said a word you mean Falwell and Robertson were excoriated to the point that they withdrew their comments and apologized for them, you might have a point.
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Happy Easter!
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Blowhard,
You’re usually a stickler for classic definitions so you could you point out anything Reverend Wright has said that fits the classic definition of racist. I haven’t seen or heard one yet.
By Diogenes
March 23, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Good morning,Jim,
After reading your column twice, I am still amazed that you can talk about truth and so immediately dump it on its head to end with such a banal utterance as “But that is not the one most Americans see and know.” The one most Americans see and know is the fantasyland of the Republicans because they are so ably assisted by skilled wordsmiths like you who never miss the drumbeat of the party line. Jim, this is America, where all things may be said, all things believed, and where all of us must band together to overthrow the hegemony of elitism which Bush and his cronies have brought us. Let me recommend that you read Cynthia Tucker’s column today to see how truth can serve higher ideals, rather than adroitly twisted to shore up a view of America that should be repudiated.
By Politics Aside
March 23, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Wooten correctly says that the constitution is a referenece document to guide our domestic and foreign policies. This is the America Wooten really hates, for the first time in his adult life. He’s become the liberal.
By Dan
March 23, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
I’m a white guy in my 30s from Woodstock, and about four months ago when Andy Young came out against Obama, I came on an AJC blog and said I like Obama because he was young and therefore had a similar perspective on race, unlike the old guard guys like Andy who is forever bitter and racist (anti- white, Jew, asian, etc.). I liked Obama because I thought he would represent me fairly because race wouldn’t matter, and I called him the next John Kennedy.
But now, to hear that he is in with the old-guard anti-white hate-baiters, how can I vote for someone who doesn’t like me? This revelation goes against everything I thought he stood for and it’s incredibly disappointing. The liberal media is trying to sugar-coat this fact, but for me it’s a deal breaker.
By Politics Aside
March 23, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
Wooten correctly assesses that Kerry’s Global Stamp of Approval for nation-building is essential for it’s success, as Bush finally admitted. Coalition of the willing. Our allies. See what Wooten did? He used truth as irony by stating the obvious and then disowned the America he described. He truly is ashamed of the country.
Cant you see it? Because Wooten is auctioneering homie-improvement plans he’s consolidating the islands of nostalgia feeding the fading grey ghosts of …hey, Cynthia Tucker is on This Week!!!
what a babe, what a babe, what a babe…
By RW-(the original)
March 23, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
Yikes! Cynthia Tucker looks like hell on ABC right now. I think the AJC needs to show a little truth in their pages and update that picture.
By AmVet
March 23, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
rac·ism – noun
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
{{{{{RW}}}}}}}, if you are comfortable with Rev. Wright’s bigoted rhetoric, I’m completely surprised.
But not at your myopia for failing to recognize enmity cloaked as self-righteous religion.
He certainly doesn’t represent hope for the future to me with sentiments like GD (white) America.
C’mon! He’s palled around with Farrakhan, Khadafi and Sharpton - none of whom have ever had a racist thought in their lives, eh?
And people called Geraldine Ferraro a racist!
In this country, white bigotry was once completely tolerated. Not so much anymore. (And I’m going to be charitable and leave the Deep South alone for once). Nor among the morally consistent is black bigotry to be swept under the rug. That some may feel they get a pass because of a most unfortunate history of brutality flies in the face of one of my true American heroes - MLK Jr.
Who represented the best of Christian values, not the worst.
Mark my words - Obama’s run for the White House may have just taken a fatal turn by keeping this “Christian” creep around as his “spiritual advisor”.
And here you thought I just hammered on disgusting “conservative” frauds!
By Politics Aside
March 23, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
Cynthia Tucker fit right into that round table. The other woman was made to look like a debating 101 community college dropout, contradicting herself, coming across like the flip-flopping liberals she despises, as she tried to parry Cynthia’s new-conservative common sense points about the week’s developments.
The old conservative guard is embarrassed by THAT America because they really believed in white supremacy. They really internalized it to the point where they cant share modern national pride. Astonishing.
By Dusty
March 23, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
Well, good morning all. Just a beautiful Easter morning here in Atlanta. The trees are blooming pink, white and purple and the yellow jasmine and forsythia are glowing with gold.
Easter lilies and worshipers filled our church with joy. We all sang “alleluia” as birds flew outside our big chuch windows and the organ did it’s magnificat. Oh it was nice and the message we all know was still love forever. I hope all of you were able to celebrate the good fortune of living in the freedom and faith of America.
That said, I see many of our liberals are hard at it telling us how sorry we are, our government and anybody else who says anything appreciative of America.
Forget it, you frettin’ folks. It’s Easter. Take a day off and be happy. Go smell the flowers or something. It will do you good.
By RW-(the original)
March 23, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
Blowhard,
The classic definition of racism is the belief that one race is genetically superior to another. As you accurately reflected on this second bite at the apple, his comments were bigoted comments. He certainly has a right to make those comments and I certainly have the right as well as the duty to decry a man that would sit in that church listening to that for twenty years and now wants to be my President.
Actually Blowhard, I don’t read much of your lengthy and stuntingly boring bloviations so I don’t know who you prefer to hammer. It seems to me when I do read something you’ve written that your only real focus is on trying to place yourself on a pedestal you build through childish insults of others.
By Politics Aside
March 23, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
Wooten calls america vile. Wooten suggests we invited 911. Fine. Feel ashamed, sir. You speak truth to yourself. Painful? We know. Self reflection is the most pain we can suffer.
Our constitution wont let you judge a candidate by his preacher and not his leadership.
All Wooten has is vague and poorly expressed points about the fire and brimstone style of a pulpit pounder. He’s so disoriented by THAT america, that he cant even see he uses truth as a premise to conclude he’s ashamed of his country.
It’s okay, cry. Cry it out, Wooten. You’ve lost something precious to you: your complacency. We’ll be here to welcome you when you grow up and realize that america has grown up without you and your shame. But we will never do to you what you did to us, that’s an american guarantee.
Obama: it’s america, silly.
By AmVet
March 23, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
{{{{{RW}}}}}, strange that you would turn a blind eye to Wright’s racism. Really strange. Really un-Christian.
I mentioned Dr. King earlier and another great American hero of mine, Colin Powell, had the US delegation walk out of a UN Conference on Racism because of hate language a few years ago.
The Arabs tried to turn a conference against racism into a conference against Israel.
Like those murderous b@stards aren’t racist, misogynistic and just plain misanthropic themselves???!!!
Good on him…
And {{{{{{ricky}}}}}}} for someone who pretends to not read my posts, you sure do, almost without exception, reply to them very quickly and generally make references to the points therein.
BTW, I noticed with some amusement, after MUCH teeth gnashing and derision last year, by you and Buy Non-American, on my use of the word, you’ve decided that stuntingly is now permissible!
Progress!
By RW-(the original)
March 23, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
I thought I’d throw you a bone for Easter, Stunty Blowhard.
Now it’s time for that traditional Easter golf game so you’ll have to bleat on without me.
By the way here’s something for you to ponder in my absence since you like to make believe you were a soldier protecting our rights. How does the First Amendment come down as it relates to Wright’s speech? If you get past that how does my saying anyone that sits and listens to that garbage deserves nothing but scorn and certainly not my precious vote mean I support the comments themselves.
Later!
By EasterEggs
March 23, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
Dusty wrote such a colorful comment for Easter! I’ve got tears of nostalgia. Sure, we’ve had our own easter egg hunt this morning, but some of the children cried when they realized that some kids found more than they. There’s half-eaten chocolate bunnies everywhere now and many of the children are smearing my new sofa with their grimey little hands. No, I will not allow a game of pin the tail on the donkey using a picture of wooten. What we have here is a total lack of respect for tradition. I will not allow these horrid brats to turn easter into a liberal orgy of free-baskets and handouts. Is nothing sacred?
I wish I had gone to church with Dusty, who I’m sure is having a glorious sunday as it should be, as it once was, as it probably never will be again. I’m frightened of the new america. Look what it’s done to the easter bunny.
By ghost rider
March 23, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
Wooten you wrote….”About some things most Americans have no sense of humor. The anti-American rhetoric of Obama’s preacher ranks high among them. Sure, no member of the congregation is responsible for the loopy, inflammatory or racist rhetoric of the man in the pulpit. But 20 years? You sit there for 20 years with your children, and just now, when the world sees documentary evidence of his extremism, do you condemn “the statements of Rev. Wright that have caused such controversy.”
20 years, how do you know that he has been preaching this hatred for the last 20 years?
Are you a psychic or have you attended any of his church service? I don’t think so. It’s time to say adieu….Happy Easter.
By getalife
March 23, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
The betrayus plan to arm them, bribe them, and stand down is failing.
They are turning on us and all hell is breaking loose in Iraq.
CNN’s King was the one that got w to admit Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and he got Mcbushie to lie Iran was training the enemy. Mcbushie is still spewing this lie because Americans will swallow it just like they did with w.
Watch “Why we fight” to see how you got punked easily. Elect Mcbushie to finish off our country with WWIII and a draft.
Americans have lost their freaking minds whacked out on prescription drugs.
Try smoking weed instead lunatics. Barney Frank wants to legalize it and he knows they need to tax it.
By RW-(the original)
March 23, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
And {{{{{{ricky}}}}}}} for someone who pretends to not read my posts, you sure do, almost without exception, reply to them very quickly and generally make references to the points therein.
Another little game if you get bored, Blowhard, is to look right up ^^^ there and see just how absurd that comment is.
By Politics Aside
March 23, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Brilliant Comment, Easter Eggs @ 12:43. dusty wrote very well, btw, she’s best when she doesn’t try to sell anything, but allows her natural imagination to free-flow. Politics sometimes is just being yourself and letting others decide what they read. That’s how wooten turned himself inside out, and look how pretty that is.
By AmVet
March 23, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
{{{{ricky}}}}, when you get back you can pretend you didn’t read this, OK?
And your slip is showing, chickenhawk. Just yesterday you accepted the obvious and today you offer this pearl of non-wisdom, “…since you like to make believe you were a soldier…”.
Tragically, veteran haters like you and Doofus are a dime a dozen in this country now.
And now you act all indignant about Wright’s racist comments when just minutes ago you wouldn’t even denounce them?
And though you “Christian” “conservatives” don’t much care for some parts of the first amendment (nor the first 13 words of the second - A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state) is irrelevant…
By Politics Aside
March 23, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this
Good luck golfing, RW. I hope your putter stands up.
By AJC Management
March 23, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this
I see that the liberals are especially agitated on this most Holy of days, lashing out at the world around them with even more bitterness than usual, a world that overflowed church parking lots and packed the pews, coming together as a people, black, white and Asian, the people of the world, to celebrate the Real Truth of this world-
Up from the grave He arose,
With a mighty triumph o’er His foes,
He arose a Victor from the dark domain,
And He lives forever, with His saints to reign.
He arose! He arose!
Hallelujah! Christ arose!
Hallelujah!
And so He Lives in this world, He shows us the Way, it is His world, and it is a world far better than you will ever hear some angry, sullen liberal talk about.
Live with your rage against the Goodness and bright shining light that is America, me, I’m going to give thanks to my God for the blessings that he has bestowed upon us all.
By @@
March 23, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
Did that baby’s face not come through? I put before you the wide-eyed wonderment of a beautiful child, and nobody comments?
Shame on all of you. In that child’s eyes you can see joy, anticipation, innocence, mischief, and hopes of a tomorrow filled with the same. I saw her. I was uplifted by the mere site of her.
AmVet’s here….oh goody. If I could have put an Easter basket at the foot of your bed, I would have put this in it:
Re-create 68
Something ^^^ for you to look forward to buddy. Re-live the “good” old days.
You’re welcome.
Getalife:
Try smoking weed instead lunatics.
You give a whole new meaning to easter “grass”.
By getalife
March 23, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
God bless America not God damn America.
w did that.
By Dusty
March 23, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
Well, thanks, Easter Eggs(even if you are a bit cracked) and Politics Aside (are u a free flowing school teacher?)..I was thinking about this morning and remembering one experience at church and thinking Why? Why? Why do some people encounter so much tragedy in this lifetime? And I can’t be sure it WAS tragedy but…
One of our members, a refugee from eight years in a political prison camp in Cambodia, came to us years ago by “mistake”, i. e. he thought we were Catholic. He learned differently (we’re main stream Protestant) but he felt welcomed and has stayed with us many years. His small frame is often busy in church activities. He appreciates even the smallest thing done for him and has reached out to many who have come to America along the same difficult path he followed. He does not have a high paying job.
Today he brought to church a thin frail elderly couple of far east origin. They appeared timid and quiet in their well worn clothes. But their faces, oh their faces. The lines that hardship had engraved and saddened into gentle lines were there. I did not hear their voices as they left quickly and quietly with our old friend. But, before leaving, they bowed in courtly deference to our minister’s outreached hand. Still polite, still gentle after hardships that only their faces would tell.
Can you assimilate the feeling of losing your family, your home and homeland and live among strangers (even kind ones who do not speak your language) in the last years of your life? Oh, I cannot even imagine such grief. And yet, they were still trying to live honorably. At least, that is the impression their tired figures gave.
Well, I am sorry to be longwinded today. You may fuss at me. I still think, in amazement, how different my life is from theirs. That I should miss the misfortunes such as theirs.
I will not forget their faces.
By Curious Observer
March 23, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
I’m shocked—shocked, I tell you!—that any darkie preacher would dare suggest that this Land of Liberty would ever have tolerated Jim Crow laws, poll tests, and separate but equal educational and social doctrines.
How dare he say such things to us good white folks!
By Dusty
March 23, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Sorry, @@, that I didn’t tell you. Your baby was beautiful. Glad you posted that sweet face.
By W
March 23, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
My fellow followers,
Let me remind you, We may be taking a day off but War does not. The War — our noble War — is costing us just as much today as it did yeasterday or the day before or the day before. Well, I hope you get my meaning — War costs money, lots of money. I’ll be looking for those War contributions right after We have had our day off. Don’t let me down, We need your financial support in order to fight our War.
Thank You, Your Leader, W
By Osama Bin Laden
March 23, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
My fellow followers,
Let me remind you, while though the Americans are taking the day off, we need to continue to find woman willing to blow themselves up in the middle of the young and the innocent, because we have run out of men to do it for us. And remember, it takes a lot of you brainwashed fools to get our cause broadcast on PMSNBC and our other propaganda outlets. We need many, many explosions to excite thee spineless wonders that populate the drive by media, do not let them grow tired and silent of us.
Thee Americans are not fleeing like we expected them to, even though our spineless surrender monkeys in Congress keep bleating like little stupid sheep to try and get their brave, tough soldiers to cut and run. Many democrats have become hysterical that we are not killing enough woman and children and that they cannot keep whining about the war if it is so quite. Did these democrats think evil was all fun and games?
Our adversary, the Armed Forces of the United States, is a tough and seasoned foe that is killing our followers with extreme prejudice, just because we want to enslave and kill Iraqis in the name of allah. They are nothing like what we were told by the democrats, or nothing like the democrats for that matter, no, they are not weak nor are they cowards.
So we must kill innocent people since the Americans will slaughter us if we stand and fight like men.
So ask your sister, your wife, your mothers, strap a bomb onto them and send them to the jihad against the women and children.
Tell them they will get a reward of, uh, 72, er, I know, tell them there will be 72 eager hairy backed men waiting for them in paradise.
And for our American allies in Congress, whine harder, would you?
May “peace” be with you.
By W
March 23, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
My fellow followers,
While I know there will be some who will mock our efforts, stand fast. We will prevail against those evil ones. They may take that money that was spent on oil and use it to buy bomb-making components and they may use that money to train their dim-witted followers by making promises that they cannot possibly keep but we will persevere. But, we cannot survive without your efforts. Please send us all the money you possibly can. Remember, war costs money. Your money.
Thank you, Your Leader, W
By Jackie
March 23, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
It is profound that the topic today is Obama and his slighting of America. Many of the so-called conservatives are so wrapped in their own hate and refusal to acknowledge what Rev. Wright said had meaning to him and many others in his congregation, they want to put those words in Barack Obama’s mouth.
The question relating to Rev. Wrights statements seen on TV, who happens to have a PhD in Religion and a former US Marine, put on the table is, did he lie about anything he said?
The neo-cons do not want to confront his statements and they continue to deny the depth and breadth of their own failings, so they attempt to dress Rev. Wright(Barack Obama) in the same clothes.
Do you condemn what Rev. Hagee said about the Catholics and Jews, yet, John McCain is being supported by this man?
Did the neo-cons say anything about Saxby Chambliss and his potrayal of Max Cleland - a triple amputee from the Viet Nam war and a winner of the Silver Star - morphed as a traitor and a supporter of Osama Bin Laden?
Oh come ye with all your pronouncements of denials. Please, prove me wrong as my eyes and ears have seen and heard those things.
By js
March 23, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
This has been a major sticking point with the left for decades now. It’s that pervasive view that America is evil, that its institutions are corrupt and that unless constrained by international laws, codes, treaties and mores, we will pillage and destroy under the guise of liberty and defile the world’s nest to satisfy our lust for oil and greed for consumables.Did you hear the same speech I heard? As Obama pointed out, America’s institutions have indeed been corrupt and unabashedly wrong: i.e. slavery, Jim Crow, illegally invading Iraq, etc. Obama nonetheless, lauds that same America over and over.
*He sees a nation, too, that fills emergency rooms with the sick and unprotected because they “don’t have the power to overcome the special interests in Washington.”
Who could love that America?*
Good question. Certainly not those who can’t afford to go to the doctor because their workplace offers no insurance, or if they do offer insurance, can’t afford the copays. Believe it or not, your America includes people who do well to feed their families, much less be able to pay for any needed tests, medications, etc.
Liberal apologists who grasp the devastating impact the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has on Barack Obama’s chances of being elected president of the United States this year join the candidate in explanation and excuses.
It actually strengthened his chances. He gave a clear denouncement of Wright’s opinions. In an ackward position, he delivered one of the most important speeches on race, or on any subject, in decades. Not even great monoliths, “the American public” or “the media” can make one man write off another man. Obama clearly has a close relationship with Wright. Obama condemned his statements. What more could we want? As for his electability, one thing is certainty: the winner of the 2008 presidential elections will not be McCain. This election, one way or the other, will make history. People are desperate for a new direction and for the U.S. to climb out of the distastrous international policy that has gotten us all but hated by most countries except England. While no person is a miracle worker, at least 2008-2012 will be a start.
By Osama Bin Laden
March 23, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
My fellow democrats,
Please do not misunderstand how much your efforts to weaken America from within are greatly appreciated. Please, if it is possible, redouble those efforts.
When America tries to drill for their own oil and lower their costs for energy continue to shriek hysterically, point to the sky and wail about “global warming,” run to the aid of the mooses in Alaska and idiotically say that they will harm them, falsely accuse your countrymen of being addicted to “oil” even though you blow through a hundred more times of it than they do, jetting around thee globe to receive your mindless environmental awards.
We need your money.
You cannot believe the excitement and encouragement that we feel when your political candidates say stupid things like the World’s Largest Superpower cannot win against a measly band of criminal terrorists, and even though we know that they say things things only to get votes out of their simpleton followers, it gives us the “Hope” we need to continue blowing up women and children.
You wouldn’t want us to “change,” would you?
And most of all, talk down thee American economy. We giggle right along with you when you call the 5% unemployment rate a disaster, the same rate you called wonderful when Clinton was president. We laugh heartily when you say that the largest economy in the world, larger than all of Europe combined, is losing it’s standing in the world. Me and Omar are reduced to tears in our cave thinking of tiny little China growing twenty times larger overnight, like some idiot miracle.
Thanks for the laughs.
And continue to teach nonsense in your public schools, tell the little bright eyed kids that America is evil and that Islam is good, after all, we never oppressed the Indians, right?
Teach them stupid subjects like changing their sex or how bigot Bill Clinton was the greatest president. Make them stupid and hopeless for us.
You are doing the work of allah.
“Peace” be with you.
By TW
March 23, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
Jackie - please understand that today’s republican knows even less about Christianity than they do fiscal responsibility and military wisdom.
What you see today is the hate of old, just neutered and unable to express itself the way it used to.
Try not to blame them, Jackie, ‘for they know not what they do’…
By You tell me
March 23, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
Did Pastor Wright lie when he said the US government invented AIDS to kill off the black population? Probably, but what say you Jackie?
Your eyes and ears are also lying to you because Cleland was never morphed into anybody in an ad. Although Bush was morphed into Hitler in one.
By Jackie
March 23, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
The link to the BBC article about the AIDS virus is here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/978342.stm
To paraphrase one other thing that Rev. Wright said “…Hilary Clinton could never know what it is like to be discriminated against like Barack Obama.” How many believe that what was said was not valid?
Martin Luther King said “…sunday morning is the most segregated hour in America.” Was/is that a lie?; has that situation changed significantly?
By Happy Easter, from Glenn
March 23, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
The Ballad of the Goodly Fare
Simon Zelotes speaketh it somewhile after the Crucifixion.
For the priests and the gallows tree?
Aye lover he was of brawny men,
O’ ships and the open sea.
2. When they came wi’ a host to take Our Man
His smile was good to see,
“First let these go!” quo’ our Goodly Fere,
“Or I’ll see ye damned,” says he.
3. Aye he sent us out through the crossed high spears
And the scorn of his laugh rang free,
“Why took ye not me when I walked about
Alone in the town?” says he.
4. Oh we drank his “Hale” in the good red wine
When we last made company,
No capon priest was the Goodly Fere
But a man o’ men was he.
5. I ha’ seen him drive a hundred men
Wi’ a bundle o’ cords swung free,
That they took the high and holy house
For their pawn and treasury.
6. They’ll no’ get him a’ in a book I think
Though they write it cunningly;
No mouse of the scrolls was the Goodly Fere
But aye loved the open sea.
7. If they think they ha’ snared our Goodly Fere
They are fools to the last degree.
“I’ll go to the feast,” quo’ our Goodly Fere,
“Though I go to the gallows tree.”
8. “Ye ha’ seen me heal the lame and blind,
And wake the dead,” says he,
“Ye shall see one thing to master all:
‘Tis how a brave man dies on the tree.”
9. A son of God was the Goodly Fere
That bade us his brothers be.
I ha’ seen him cow a thousand men.
I have seen him upon the tree.
10. He cried no cry when they drave the nails
And the blood gushed hot and free,
The hounds of the crimson sky gave tongue
But never a cry cried he.
11. I ha’ seen him cow a thousand men
On the hills o’ Galilee,
They whined as he walked out calm between,
Wi’ his eyes like the grey o’ the sea,
12. Like the sea that brooks no voyaging
With the winds unleashed and free,
Like the sea that he cowed at Genseret
Wi’ twey words spoke’ suddently.
13. A master of men was the Goodly Fere,
A mate of the wind and sea,
If they think they ha’ slain our Goodly Fere
They are fools eternally.
14. I ha’ seen him eat o’ the honey-comb
Sin’ they nailed him to the tree.
—Ezra Pound
By TW
March 23, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
Rev Wright’s lie about AIDS has killed how many of our troops?
By getalife
March 23, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
“I would eat this up like cake.”
— GOP hatchetman Rick Wilson, who did the 2002 Cleland-Osama morph ads,
talking about what the GOP will do with Obama-Wright connection, Link
“It’s harder for people to say it’s taken out of context because these are Wright’s own words. You let people draw their own conclusions. You don’t have to say that he’s unpatriotic; you don’t
question his patriotism. Because I guaran-damn-tee you that, with that footage, you don’t have to.”
— Chris LaCivita, GOP hatchetman who helped craft the Swift Boat commercials against Kerry, Link
Yes, they’re going to make Obama “the most radical Muslim” to ever step foot in America, but there’s no need to worry because the voters are smart - right”
Bartcop is wright. The corportists will stop at nothing to keep power.
This will be the ugliest election yet if the dems are dumb enough to run Obama.
Strike three on national security.
When will the spineless dems learn that you have to be strong on national security to win?
Clinton is and does not have a radical kook spewing God damn America.
By Politics Aside
March 23, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
Anyone else detect a note of self-pity in Wooten’s piece? I’m not ragging on the good man, I simply want to know if anyone appreciates Wooten’s words as much as I do.
I still know for a fact that with the exception of jlaw and possibly dusty, nobody else has written comments that indicate they ever get the points Wooten makes. Instead they try to either write over their level (dont) or write like they didn’t read the piece at all (do), or they write like they only read it one time (read it three times), or they’re trolls who are trying to be something they’re not.
Anyone know from which line I draw that conclusion about Wooten’s note of self pity for what has happened to conservatism this day?
By Glenn
March 23, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this
Or else they are pompous a*******es convinced that they ever see in everything the One True Thing no one else sees or, seeing, fails in their utter vacuity to appreciate.
I am The Magnificent. Kiss my a$$, or else pass my test and then kiss my a$$!
By W
March 23, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this
My loyal, fellow followers,
I have been informed that there are some amongst you who would belittle our efforts to fight our noble war. They do this by attempting to reduce their taxes in our time of greatest need. Beware of these that also dare to trash the name “Republican” and even “conservative”. They are not true Republicans or conservatives for they refuse to accept their responsibility and pay their fair share toward our noble war. Even our Democrat brethren accept that war costs money and are willing to pay — if not with money that they don’t have, then will their own life. Send in those checks Now or at least sign up for a tour.
Thank You, Your Leader, W
By AJC Management
March 23, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
Look at this “chickenhawk” flying into the enemy’s camp:
{{{{After talks with Israeli officials in Jerusalem, Cheney flew to the West Bank by helicopter, touching down at Mahmoud Abbas’ presidential compound near the grave of longtime Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, who died in 2004.}}}}
The raghead terrorists were probably shaking in their wormy little boots in the presence of such power.
By Politics Aside
March 23, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this
Oh, did I forget to mention glenn? I hurt your feelings. How. Why? You’re doing fine on your own. You dont need to be me. Nobody expects you to do more than be yourself, which you do quite well, thank you.
Your bitter, but thankfully short diatribe against your own invented contextual translations of my writing frighten me. You glean things that aren’t there, like a cyber-Mark Chapman. That’s quite a leap of logic there, my fine friend.
Glenn, tell me, sir, what is a waterboarded declaration? Recreational anti-americanism? Middle America? A “sticking point”?
Glenn, dont ever compare yourself to someone else. Someday you’ll realize that it’s better to want than to have.
Now, about the self-pity. Times running out. What line?
By AJC Management
March 23, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this
{{{{Carter, who felt he was not treated with a lot of respect by the Clintons when they were in the White House, favors Obama.}}}}
{{{{“The Clintons will be there when they need you,” said a Carter friend.-Moron Dud, Treason Times}}}}
You libs hate each other much?
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{{{{You can’t be a President if you won’t stand up to an anti-American bigot. More to the point, you can’t become President by running against the country or having people around you who hate it.}}}}
Which is why no demokrat can become president.
They both hate America.
~~~~~
Seems as though Obambi’s church has more than one kook onboard, they must be crawling with them:
{{{{In a sunrise Easter sermon, Rev. Otis Moss III never mentioned Wright by name, but implied that his mentor, who has delivered sermons in which he likened the U.S. to the Ku Klux Klan and declared it damned for its “state-sponsored terrorism,” is facing the same challenges Jesus did. ”No one should start a ministry with lynching, no one should end their ministry with lynching,” Moss said.}}}}
{{{{“The lynching was national news. The RNN, the Roman News Network, was reporting it and NPR, National Publican Radio had it on the radio. The Jerusalem Post and the Palestine Times all wanted exclusives, they searched out the young ministers, showed up unannounced at their houses, tried to talk with their families, called up their friends, wanted to get a quote on how do you feel about the lynching?” he continued.}}}}
{{{{“Dr. Wright represents the best among us … An attack on this man of God is an attack on all those of the cloth who believe in the social Gospel of liberation. And I will not stand for it,” he wrote.}}}}
So much “love” for America.
By Rufus
March 23, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this
Gawd. A beautiful Easter Sunday to behold and what do our usual resident RAT suspects do? Sit here and foam at the mouth as usual. Sad. So sad. The disease of liberalism is truly sad.
More “news” from NPR this afternoon on a bombing in Iraq today by those wonderful radical Islamic terrorists who are nothing but a bumper sticker according to the disease of liberalism: “The Green Zone is generally considered a safe haven. Does anyone know who might be responsible?”
Uh, let me guess here. It was a Christian. No, wait, it was a J-E-W … a JEW I tell ya (that’s partial to Billy McKinney’s screed when WSB approached him on the street after that nut extremist liberal daughter of his got the jackboot).
The idiots at NPR just have no clue how they come across.
By Rufus
March 23, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this
TOKYO, Japan (AP) — One person was stabbed to death and at least seven others were hurt by a man who went on a knifing spree outside a shopping mall in eastern Japan on Sunday, police said. The suspect, who carried two knives, slashed the victims while walking along a short hallway connecting a railway station to the mall in the city of Tsuchiura, about 62 kilometers (38 miles) northeast of Tokyo.
Well I sure am glad all those “liberal” gun laws in Tokyo are helping people to remain safe.
By Rufus
March 23, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
VATICAN CITY (AP) - Italy’s most prominent Muslim, an iconoclastic writer who condemned Islamic extremism and defended Israel, converted to Catholicism Saturday in a baptism by the pope at a Vatican Easter service.
Uh oh. You think the wrath of Allah (peace be amongst Him) was bad when Denmark published cartoons, you ain’t seen nuthin’ yet. Wait till the “bumper sticker” folks hear about this.
Ooooh. Wooooooh nelly is this going to set their turbans on fire now. Check up Italy.
By Politics Aside
March 23, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
I’m very, very flattered by the style of wooten’s piece today, btw.
Waterboarded declaration. I dont mean to make fun of wooten. but honestly. a grown man, already successful, yet he doesn’t trust his own instincts to become his own man.
I was challenged to write a six word biography of Jim Wooten. “Looking 2buy typewriter with Sticky Keys.”
By W
March 23, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
{{{{{RuFus}}}}},
You are behind on your war tax payments.
Thank You, Your Leader, W
By RW-(the original)
March 23, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
“…since you like to make believe you were a soldier…”.
Blowhard,
Didn’t you learn in Kindergarten that when you use ellipses to replace words the words they represent it must not change the meaning of the words as a whole?
Now let’s look at what I really typed.
By the way here’s something for you to ponder in my absence since you like to make believe you were a soldier protecting our rights.
This in response to you circuitously claiming that you are selective in your application of rights in that you don’t think Wright has the right to be a bigot. So you may in fact have been a military person of sorts, but you weren’t one fighting for our collective rights. See the difference, cowgirl?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
His defense rests on two central propositions: (a) moral equivalence and (b) white guilt.
(a) Moral equivalence. Sure, says Obama, there’s Wright, but at the other “end of the spectrum” there’s Geraldine Ferraro, opponents of affirmative action and his own white grandmother, “who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.” But did she shout them in a crowded theater to incite, enrage and poison others?
(b) White guilt. Obama’s purpose in the speech was to put Wright’s outrages in context. By context, Obama means history. And by history, he means the history of white racism. Obama says, “We do not need to recite here the history of racial injustice in this country,” and then he proceeds to do precisely that. What lies at the end of his recital of the long train of white racial assaults from slavery to employment discrimination? Jeremiah Wright, of course.
By Dusty
March 23, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this
Dear Politics Aside 5:13
I don’t mean to interfere with your discussion with Glenn but this puzzle approach is much more interesting than insults.
I’m thinking..and really I don’t see self pity from Jim Wooten. Unless you mean “Who could love that America?” That is probably not what you had in mind. That is just a rhetorical question about the effect of total submersion in supposedly/ real evils in America as offered by the philosophy of racial bigots. The obvious answer to the question would be NO, meaning no one with that philosophy could love America. You could apply the no-love reference to Obama/Wright, of course.
Is that what you had in mind? I don’t think that is self pity.
By Rufus
March 23, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this
Last Monday - on ABC Radio National, of all places - there was a tipping point of a different kind in the debate on climate change. It was a remarkable interview involving the co-host of Counterpoint, Michael Duffy and Jennifer Marohasy, a biologist and senior fellow of Melbourne-based think tank the Institute of Public Affairs. Anyone in public life who takes a position on the greenhouse gas hypothesis will ignore it at their peril. Duffy asked Marohasy: “Is the Earth stillwarming?” She replied: “No, actually, there has been cooling, if you take 1998 as your point of reference. If you take 2002 as your point of reference, then temperatures have plateaued. This is certainly not what you’d expect if carbon dioxide is driving temperature because carbon dioxide levels have been increasing but temperatures have actually been coming down over the last 10 years.”
I beg to differ, sweetheart. The disease of liberalism says it just isn’t so, you flat earther you.
Then there’s this to dampen the Al Sore junkass science:
Normally in March, we get about 8.3 inches of snow, said Dennis Kahlbaum, a University of Michigan weather observer. So far in March, with more than a week to go, we’ve seen 16.7 inches of fluffy precipitation.
The saddest thing here is that these moonbat earth warming jankeassed junkies© on the liberal loon left are trying to indoctrinate out children into this mindlessness.
By Dusty
March 23, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this
Politics Aside@5:41
I take it all back. Now I write a biography of you:
“He who thinks 2 highly of himself.”
By Rufus
March 23, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this
“You are behind on your war tax payments.”
Liberal trash: betcha if we compare numbers on taxes paid, I’m WAY ahead of you, numbnuts. I don’t want to hear any of it, liberal trash.
By Glenn
March 23, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this
I’m not inventing things that aren’t there, man. Either in your writing or in Jim’s. (And it’s a pretty polished piece, you’ve got to admit.) And frankly your find-the-fish-in-the-picture challenge is rather interesting, but why would one even begin after suffering your litany of insults? Don’t you think that’s just a mite sociopathic?
And moving from sociopathy to psychopathy, no, unfortunately there isn’t anyone I’d like to be, except Jesus and Him crucified, and I don’t want to be crucified so I chicken out on the immitation, just as the Revs Wright and Hagee do; just as we all do. One of the penalties for my own cowardice is that I dare not call myself Christian. I refrain from doing so, here and elsewhere.
As for Jim’s column, the point is that he misses the point of Obama’s speech of Tuesday. Normally he detects a spin job from afar, as he’s a seasoned one all right, our Jim. But the missed point of Tuesday’s speech was that the Senator was well advised to give a Cintonesque Say Anything speech, a kind of oratorical legerdemain in which a doghouse pol pulls out all the stops to jerk a tear or otherwise divert attention from, in Barack’s case, the crucial aspect of his background revealed by the Jeremiad in Trinity. Hear my song, hear my sorrow, hear how I used to deal drugs, hear how I stole candy from a baby once, hear how I regret a certain vote in the Illinois Senate, hell take my grandmother…there! But just PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MARXIST BEHIND THE CURTAIN.
Now compared to that, what do I care about Jim’s self-pity?
By W
March 23, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
I would like to take this opportunity to thank my followers with access to the phone lines, satellites, fiber optic cables, and other means of communication. With your support (and no thanks to those in Congress) I have been able to track subversives such as {{{{{RuFus}}}}} and he will not escape his responsibility to his country and to his leader. He will pay his war tax or he will sign up for a tour.
Thank You, Your Leader, W
By Rufus
March 23, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this
BEIJING, March 23 (Xinhua) — Nancy Pelosi challenged her own conscience when the U.S. House of Representatives Speaker on Friday condemned China’s legitimate actions against violence in Tibet, but turned a blind eye to merciless rioters. Apathetic to those innocent victims in the recent Lhasa riot, Pelosi lost her own “moral authority to speak about human rights” when she acted as a defender of arsonists, looters and killers.
Congratulations China! Not that I agree with your Nazi tactics over Tibet, but you know FOUL politician full of disgusting liberal hypocrisy and liberal double standards when you see one. That’s our Nanny!
By Rufus
March 23, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this
“I have been able to track subversives such as {{{{{RuFus}}}}} and he will not escape”
Are you threatening me you liberal trash bucket? Nah, you don’t want any of this. You REALLY don’t want any of this.
Trash.
By Rufus
March 23, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this
There’s nothing into which Saturday Night Live can’t work its liberal politics—even a conventional game-show sketch. NBC aired a re-run of the February 24th SNL last night, and watching it this morning I spotted what you might call a “subliminable” anti-Ann Coulter product placement.
This is supposed to be funny. Actually it is funny in a way. The funny thing is that the disease of liberalism can’t stop thinking about Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh. THAT to me is funny.
Hahaha.
By jbmlaw
March 24, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this
Maybe I misunderstand, but the kafuffle makes no sense to me. Rev. Wright’s comments are no different from anything any other leftist says. Just read this blog.
By Redneck Convert
March 24, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this
Well, I see Jim overslept this morning. Either that or he snuck off on vacation without telling us. Can’t say as I blame him much. Bet he went down to Jekyll Island while he can still afford to go. Have a good day everybody.
By Politics Aside
March 24, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this
Luckovich’s cartoon sunday. I realize that a pulitzer prize has a downside, and Luckovich cannot be blamed for that. Expectations evolve. Zeitgeist, (how I hate that word), is poor ballast.
The final four again and again from every cartoonist. I suppose Obama’s pastor has mathematically eliminated Obama from next year’s playoffs too. It’s so hard to write final four parallel construct bits. We get it. I have trouble believing that any human being would find that clever. We have equivalent IQs. The brain is. All IQ’s are created in equal manner. Our spin about ourselves categorizes the information we receive into how we spin humanity. A fat chick? A jerk? I guy who WANTS the waitress to spit in his food, her being such a babe and all?
Any woman is a universe of possibilities to satisfy the criteria of a bride. Any woman could be a good wife to a man, no matter how her looks are spun, no matter how badly her mother ruined her total like life like.
We are now in the bottom of the third inning in the war between the sexes. The bases are loaded with less than two outs, thus the infield fly rule is in effect. That’s right, unless you call the batter out, two people will occupy the same base and both will get eaten by the big green monster. Marriage (the infield fly rule) is sacred. It has to be, or people protest the game, yell “kill the umpire”, and then they leave before the game is over. The game aint over till the fatlady sings.
Make your wife sing, gentlemen.
Okay, bits from that tone poem: Islamic baseball, where they yell “behead the umpire” because he violated the (infield allah can fly) rule. Osama, talking about his farm team and the shortage of lefthanders to AL Jezeera, “you see, most of their left arms get sacrificed in staged failed-suicide attempts. In Islam, instead of shooting yourself in the foot to get a medical discharge from al queda cell camp, they blow their left arms off, and say, “the blasting caps were on sale”. (Islamic Jack Benny).
Of course they are beheaded immediately, of course.
By W
March 24, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
I see that we have a dangerous one amongst us, my loyal followers. This one calling himself {{{{{RuFus}}}} (amongst other deceitful names), has chosen to side with the Chinese over an American. We cannot tolerate such despicable behavior within our ranks. This person is clearly not of the loyal conservative Republican type. We REALLY do not want — we REALLY do not need — any of this type. So, just pay your fair share of the war taxes and relinguish your GOP member card and all will be forgiven.
By James
March 24, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
With this flawed logic, we must never elect a Catholic as a president due to the fact they stand by for so long KNOWING/SHIELDING their preists are molesting children. Now that is unconscionable!
By Chris Wall
March 27, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
In response to “Obama’s Awakening” March 21. Mr Wooten, I would defend your right to speak your opinion even though it is lacking in perspective and in my view ignorant of the many facets of the “real America”. I would defend it as someone who understands that diversity of opinion, debate, and multiculturalism are the birhtright of this country. Dissention and a suspicious eye toward Government are patriotic imperatives envisioned by our forefathers. Their wisdom is cleary lost upon those like yourself who advocate that silly knee-jerk “love it or leave it” approach to patriotism. I don’t agree with Rev. Wrights conments either but I’m not so naive that I don’t understand the validity of “black anger”. Brush up on your social and economic history over the past 40 or so years and then please, explain to me why all races should share a unified belief in the American Dream. Rev. Wright’s “chicken’s coming home to roost” comment must have been a painful thing for 911 families to hear. Stupid and inflammatory no doubt. I did not hear him say however that those who died deserved it. Anyone who believes that our foreign policy in the middle east is without reprisal has little or no knowledge of the culture of our enemy. Condemning Sen. Obama of guilt by association is your option and your right to say so. The Irony is that the reasons why directly oppose the values our forefathers envisioned as our legacy.
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