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State Republicans shouldn’t gamble with credibility
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Republicans under the Gold Dome who fritter away this opportunity to make a difference, to represent something other than the shopworn grow-government politics they replaced, should have walked in Dorothy Felton’s shoes.
By the Grace of God, she lived to see Sandy Springs created. But for years, until her party gained majority status, she was determined and gracious, always prepared, year after year, disappointment after disappointment, to argue the right of the put-upon residents of Sandy Springs to have a piece of ground they could control, a piece of ground protected from the whims of downtown Democrats who used it as their ATM.
Felton, who died last week at 78, served in the Georgia House for 26 years, always in the minority. Enduring through adversity required conviction, focus, patience and a strong sense of purpose. In that she was not alone. The current session of the General Assembly and the drift of Republicans since they came to power are, to this mind at least, frittering away their inheritance.
Three events of the past week cause me to wonder precisely what this Republican Party stands for.
Event One:
The Georgia Supreme Court unanimously declared that tax dollars the State Constitution mandates to be spent to educate school children cannot be handed over to developers via Tax Allocation Districts. Not for 25 years, not for a day.
The reaction of Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle? To declare that the decision “has threatened a critical infrastructure and economic development tool for Georgia, and we must act and develop a solution.”
Tax allocation districts are a conduit for corporate welfare. They have a narrow legitimate purpose —- to entice development to severely blighted areas where the free market wouldn’t go. They should be used sparingly. Instead, they have become abused, with school boards intimidated into going along. Why is it a crisis for Republicans that the Supreme Court has sided with taxpayers?
Event Two:
Cancer Treatment Centers of America wants to build near Atlanta’s airport a $150 million hospital, eventually employing 400, with a projected five-year economic impact of $500 million. It would serve cancer patients expected to fly in from around the Southeast. Few are expected to come from Georgia.
Yet Georgia’s hospitals have ganged up on the General Assembly to keep the competition out. And we have the president of the Georgia Chamber of Commerce, George M. Israel III, asserting this to senators:
“We often hear it argued that free market principles should be applied to health care. But unfortunately, health care in the United States does not respond to the free market” because Medicare and Medicaid account for 60 percent to 70 percent of reimbursements.”
The former Republican mayor of Macon, Israel thus dismisses the prospect that competition has value in health care, while his organization fights tooth-and-nail to keep the state from relaxing in the slightest anti-competitive regulations that Ronald Reagan recognized as a failure more than two decades ago. He had the requirement for states to have a “certificate of need” system repealed.
If conservatives believe Israel, they should pack up and go home. And stay there. Next stop, HillaryCare. The bill that the chamber and hospitals are fighting, SB 433, will be on the Senate floor this week.
Event Three:
Up soon, too, is House Speaker Glenn Richardson’s bill to shift part of the homeowner’s property tax load to a sales tax on groceries and services. If there are lower taxes-less government principles here, they elude me. Why conservatives would wish to embrace a tax structure that complicates the code, ups the requirement for regulators and introduces something grow-government advocates tried to push on Democrats —- a tax on services —- is beyond me.
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By jbmlaw
February 26, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. Mr. Wooten provides an education service for our leftist friends, who often express inability to distinguish “conservative” from “republican.” To summarize, republicans are as shiftless and irresponsible as democrats. Conservatives are intelligent enough to save the republic from big government socialists, of whatever party. All to often we fail to explain our logic, but Jim does it well today.
By WFC
February 26, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this
Jim lived up to “common sense conservatism” today. All three points are well taken.
By Redneck Convert
February 26, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
Well, Arlan Deitz got moved into one of them new cities and he says he ain’t seen a nickel’s worth of diffrence in his taxes. What got reduced in county taxes got made up for in city taxes. Now he can’t do nothing without the city saying he’s wrong. He had to move both of his old cars off of the blocks in his front yard when city guvmint took over. And he can’t even shoot the squirrels in his yard no more.
I don’t care much about this hospitle bizness. Long as my dotter can take little Sonny Zell George to the emergency room and get him doctored for free, it don’t matter to me how many other hospitles get opened up. Even if there was 300 hospitles in the area, they would still charge $400 per day and $10 for a lousy Coke when they don’t have no milk handy. Of course, if we get socialized medicine, it will go up to $600 a day because everybody wants to soak the federal guvmint and us taxpayers. Besides, if we got rid of all the freeloaders that show up prices would go way down. I reckon a few more people would die but this country is overcrowded with Those People and the Mexicans anyway. We would be alot better off just building doctors a $1 million mansion and handing them the keys before they start up so they wouldn’t feel they had to charge so much.
And last, I think we can get by with just tweaking the income tax. Change it to, say, a 25% tax on the first $10,000 and 1% per thousand after that. That way, the bums would pay all the taxes and godly workers like jbmlaw and Glenn could get their vacations without having to cheat people so much. Us conservatives always say the people that pay the big taxes ought to get the big tax breaks.
Anyhow, I hope Wooten ain’t turned into a commie. Throwing off on godly Republicans up at the capital like that. Just remember, we could be alot worse off. We could have librul Democrats doing the same thing. Have a good day everybody.
By Allah says Dump A BUCKET OF PIG BLOOD ON DUSTY
February 26, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this
In the only important vote of Hillary’s Clinton’s career in the US Senate, she voted to invade Iraq. Because of that vote, millions of people died, including thousands of americans. Rather than taking responsibilty for the stupidity of that vote, Hillary wants a “do over.” She now disavows her vote to invade Iraq - Hillary, will disavowal bring the millions of dead and maimed back to life and full health? No, you have failed in your only foreign policy test, and failed miserable. Hillary should be voted out of the US Senate by New York Democrats as a miserable failure…She certainly does not have the “Right Stuff” to be president…
Hillary is more like Bush II, she voted to invade Iraq….a stupid vote she not tries to minimize…She claims all the political junkets she and her brat chelsea took at tax payers expense as foreign policy experience…What a joke, touring India seeing the sights, and claiming it gives her super doper foreign policy experience.. A vote for Hillary is a vote for four more year of the Bush-Clinton failures in Washington, something America cannot afford…
By Glenn
February 26, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this
Good to have you back, jbm. Conservatives got cred to gamble; Republicans can’t even make the ante.
By Lake Sinclair
February 26, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this
After the past 7 years in DC, why should the actions of the Republicans in the GA General Assembly shock anyone. They learned from the masters.
Jim, this ain’t your daddy’s Republican Party.
By jbmlaw
February 26, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
I suddenly have time to expand on Jim’s events:
(1) Most politicians deem expansion of government an “accomplishment.” Whenever reporters ask politicians “what they have accomplished,” the anticipated answer lists the numerous ways the thief has expanded government intrusion into our lives. Thus, the political thieves (democrat or republican) resent any neutral observer who suggests their devices for controlling the population are improper. Frankly I was pleasantly surprised by the Supreme Court ruling – I had believed it was co-opted by the big-governmentists.
(2) Private enterprise always features two unrelated and opposing mentalities: those who wish to increase market share by offering a better (whether quality or price) product, and those who wish to control the market through regulation. Conservatives always favor the former, as economic, and oppose the latter, as corrupt/political (the conjoined terms are related and arguably redundant.) Our leftist friends, lacking in economic training, always marvel at our use of the term “corporate welfare” – the latter, regulation, is one form of corporate welfare.
(3) Property taxes are always “wealth” taxes and are fundamentally corrode the prospects of society. For those leftists who do not grasp that enduring principle of Adam Smith, propriety forbids that I take the space or time to educate you, so just let it go. Sales taxes and related consumption taxes charge the costs of government to the most dynamic force in our economy and at core do less damage, and broad-based taxes cause less economic dislocation than narrow or targeted taxes. Unfortunately there are two hidden problems in those broad statements. (a) The absence of any ongoing cost-attachment to real property creates an incentive for land owners to lock away real property, and to fail to allow economic use of the limited resource. A “property tax” has the inherent virtue of discouraging uneconomic “storage” of real property by inflicting a real cost, thus urging productive use of the resource. While I certainly would not wish to urge “too much of a good thing” some de minimis level of property tax serves a broader need of society. (b) As to the virtues of sales taxes, a broad based tax against all goods is the ideal. Assessment of such a tax against “services” mirrors the income tax, which has a significant “wealth erosion” component.
By DebbieDoRight
February 26, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
OMG!! Am I seeing/reading this correctly? Is Jim “Never Met A Republican Who Can Do Wrong” Wooten BASHING republicans??!??
GTFOH!!! What’s next? Will pigs start to fly? will jbmlaw finally stop chasing ambulances? will dumbya finally get a brain from the wizard (Rove)? Will the thing from black brigadoon britain finally start making SENSE?!?
OMG!! Be still my heart!!
By ConservativeDem
February 26, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this
By Redneck Convert February 26, 2008 8:29 AM Like the President said in his State of the Union Address if you want the government to have more tax money send a check or money order anytime. You can even spell on the check like you do in the blogs.
By jbmlaw
February 26, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
Dear Glenn @ 8:31, thanks. We do not serve well our ideology by embracing the acts of those wishy-washy moderates, which acts inevitably inflict more damage than the problem they seek to cure. I think Jim (and you) do us well by underscoring our differences with those who borrow our brand-name improperly, for reasons reflected in Lake Sinclair’s pithy closing @ 8:37.
By Ron
February 26, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
Good morning Jim,Event one and two are pretty straight forward Republican antics.Event three is a little strange for a Republican to be pushing,granted,but I’m sure the reason is to shove some business taxes on to someone else.There’s money in it for the Republicans or they wouldn’t be doing it.Businesses don’t use many groceries and with an exemption,they wouldn’t pay service taxes either.Good Republican move.
By candide
February 26, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
The Georgia Republicans are proving that changing your name from Democrat to Republican means nothing, the same redneck racist nitwits are still there.
By Just Nasty and Mean
February 26, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this
Again and again, at the Federal level and now at the state level, Republicans are given a chance to show they are conservative, for lesser and a less intrusive government, and to allow the free market system to work.
Instead, they bend to the special interests and their own power-hungry motives and screw it up—-just like the congress did and was thrown out on their ear in 2006.
Is the state’s republican leadership just stupid and cannot see the consequences of acting like liberal democrats? Are they just asking to get thrown out for another 150+ years?
I was under the impression Casey Cagle was one we could count on. But now I have to ask who has the will and good judgment to lead the conservative agenda they were elected to put forth?
How many others like me and Zell Millers are out there—-looking for their party that abandoned them?
By jbmlaw
February 26, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this
Special to Dusty, did you write that note @ 3:24 yesterday? It was brilliant, thanks for posting in any event.
By Daedalus
February 26, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
Too funny.
For years Wooten and all these self-proclaimed “conservatives” were in lock-step with Cheney, Bush, Rove &co., and derided anyone who questioned them as left-wing socialist-jihadists who hate america and everything she stands for.
And now y’all whine because people cannot distinguish republicans from conservatives?
Only after the Abrmahoff scandal did ‘conservatives’ like Wooten complain about earmarks and spending. I’ve never heard him complain about the incredible wasteful spending on American contractors in Iraq.
Do conservatives really believe that someone’s position on Roe v Wade should be a factor in whether they are hired as govt contractor in Iraq?
What kind of an idealogue will that get you? Answer: see Blackwater.
If we had used the goodwill America had after 9/11 and the billions and billions we spent on Halliburton &co in Iraq — we could have stopped al-quaeda in Afghanistan once and for all and maybe, just maybe, tried to move Israel and Palestine closer to peace.
But no, we had to take out Saddam.
What’s left? A resurgent taliban and al-quaeda in Afghanistan. An Iraq that is only held together by the courage of American soldiers and marines and a destabilized Pakistan that is increasingly embracing radical islam — but with nukes, lots of nukes.
Pat yourselves on the back conservatives.
Heckuva Job Bushies!!!
By Curious Observer
February 26, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
Well, who’da thunk it? Republicans are discovering it costs money to run a government, and the money won’t come from the tooth fair.
Of course, the anarchists posing as conservatives on this blog think that the solution is simply to eliminate almost all government. Does the phrase “promote the general welfare” ring a bell with them? Those roads and yes, the law enforcement arm you count on to protect your wealth don’t come as gifts.
This morning, I give a cordial shout-out and thanks to jbmlaw, Glenn, @@, and all the other knuckle-draggers on this blog. Tomorrow, my first Social Security check arrives. My calculations show that I will need to live nine more years to receive back my own contributions and those of my employers—without interest, of course. So much for their claims that Social Security is just another form of government welfare.
But thanks anyway. Now get out there and hump it, you antediluvian frauds.
By Apocalypse
February 26, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
Chris Dodd To Endorse Obama
CLEVELAND, Ohio (Reuters) - Former Democratic presidential hopeful Chris Dodd will endorse Barack Obama in his bid for the White House on Tuesday, a source close to the Obama campaign said.
Dodd, a U.S. senator from Connecticut, dropped out of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination in early January after placing sixth in the Iowa caucuses, the first nominating contest in the nation.
Obama, a senator from Illinois, and rival Hillary Clinton, a senator from New York and former first lady, are now battling for the nomination.
They face off in a crucial televised debate later on Tuesday ahead of contests in Texas and Ohio next week.
Dodd was first elected to the U.S. Congress in 1974.
(Reporting by Jeff Mason, editing by Todd Eastham)
By Abomi Nation
February 26, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
Event number Four: Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle’s proposal for a regional road tax that would allow counties to vote on a one percent sales tax to fund local transportation projects. Cagle’s plan would send 20 percent of the revenue back to the state to fund projects in rural areas of the state.
This of course is another form of rural welfare this state loves so much. Bash Atlanta but at the same time grabbing all the money they can stuff in their pockets from the metro area. Just another leftist Republican entitlement program.
By Craig also
February 26, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
“I suddenly have time to expand on Jim’s events”
Be still my heart…
By Apocalypse
February 26, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
Undecided voter researches both candidates…
And is no longer undecided!
Check out the following link. It’s an account from one woman who didn’t want to buy into all the hype but with an apparent healthy skepticism did a good deal of research on the Library of Congress website to find out what Obama has actually done and whether there is ACTION behind his words. She also looked into his opponent and made a list of the various bills.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633
After she was done she donated $100 to Obama¹s campaign. Even though she argues against HYPE, I have to say after reading this I felt more FIRED UP than ever before!
Everyone keep doing what your doing, March 4th is closing in fast!
YES WE CAN!
By Craig also
February 26, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
“I suddenly have time to expand on Jim’s events”
Be still my heart…
By Allah says Dump A BUCKET OF PIG BLOOD ON DUSTY AKA JMBLAW
February 26, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
In the only important vote of Hillary’s Clinton’s career in the US Senate, she voted to invade Iraq. Because of that vote, millions of people died, including thousands of americans. Rather than taking responsibilty for the stupidity of that vote, Hillary wants a “do over.” She now disavows her vote to invade Iraq - Hillary, will disavowal bring the millions of dead and maimed back to life and full health? No, you have failed in your only foreign policy test, and failed miserable. Hillary should be voted out of the US Senate by New York Democrats as a miserable failure…She certainly does not have the “Right Stuff” to be president…
Hillary is more like Bush II, she voted to invade Iraq….a stupid vote she now tries to minimize…She claims all the political junkets she and her brat chelsea took at tax payers expense as foreign policy experience…What a joke, touring India seeing the sights, and claiming it gives her super doper foreign policy experience.. A vote for Hillary is a vote for four more year of the Bush-Clinton failures in Washington, something America cannot afford…
By Apocalypse
February 26, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
Biden Supports Obamas Foreign Policy Stance
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4336145
By Apocalypse
February 26, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
330,000 Calls and Counting; Let’s Hit Our Goal of 1,000,000 Body: We are less than 20,000 people away from hitting our goal of one million donors — a goal no one ever thought would be possible to meet. If you haven’t already done so, please give what you can to make our goal of a million and make history in the process…
We’ve also been steadily working our way towards our other goal of making one million calls by March 4th…
As of today, we’re nearly a third of the way there…
My.BarackObama.com/call
These calls will make a big difference in the days ahead. While Barack is undoubtedly building momentum across the country, Hillary Clinton continues to launch attack after desperate attack against him and the movement behind this campaign.
While Clinton and her campaign go on the attack, let’s respond with positive action. Let’s echo Barack’s message of forward-thinking solutions for America and share the hope that Barack has inspired in us with people across this country.
Pick up the phone and make some calls today. Set a personal goal for how many calls you’ll make by March 4th. Consider throwing a house party with friends and family to make calls together.
Barack can’t win this thing alone. Barack won’t change the country by himself — the country will change because of us. If all of us get involved, we can overcome the petty attacks and divisive distractions that have torn apart our country for far too long. We don’t have to settle for the world as it is — together, we can build the world as we envision it.
My.BarackObama.com/call
Pick up the phone and let’s get to work. We can make one million calls by March 4th.
Yes. We. Can.
By Dusty
February 26, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw@9:11
How good it is to have you back, jbmlaw. Good sense will prevail once more. We missed you.
Thank you for your kind comments on my 3:24 of yesterday. Yes, I wrote it.(Nobody else would claim it!)
Jim Wooten’s editorial makes me sad today. It is disheartening to find conservatives acting like liberals. Already the “Oh ho I told you so!” from liberals rings forth. That, of course, means they were correct to be in the far left all the time.
Such a liberal conclusion is as fearful as the proverbial “fate worse than death”, a warning all females have heard. Let conservative legislators be aware of their “fate” if their irresponsible actions continue.
By Glenn
February 26, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
jbm,
Your second point defines what I call (liberal) “corporatism”, though I think it’s at variance with AmVet’s conception of corporatism. Smart liberals know that regulation is capitalism—-for worse, not better. Smart conservatives know that as much policy control lies in cutting spending as in increasing it—-a song well outside the range of hearing of any liberal.
Apocalypse: Dennis linked to that Obama/Clinton side-by-side yesterday, and we discussed it. But if you can generate further discussion, right on. Agree that she was smart to look and to think for herself, and to know where to look; these days, almost definitive of what it means to be “well educated”.
Finally, Craig doesn’t like it when you discuss something other than THE WAR that has killed MILLIONS.
By Allah says Dump A BUCKET OF PIG BLOOD ON DUSTY AKA JMBLAW
February 26, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
Here is part of the Instruction Manual on Foreign Policy that Hillary and that Idiot George Bush failed to read and understand: First Rule - Avoid foreign Military Entanglements: by George Washington
By Apocalypse
February 26, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
Glenn,
They are both well educated candidates.
By Dusty
February 26, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
Apocalypse@9:49
How are things today down at Democratic Headquarters? The Osama branch, that is.
Funds must be getting low when you have to use blogs for political propaganda. Obama on the cheap, I suppose.
By the way, did you like Obama’s picture taken in Kenya or was it Somalia? I thought you would mention that as you keep us posted on everything else he does.
By dustbuster
February 26, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
Dusty, sleep it off.
By Al
February 26, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
A President Obama will be justice for Dusty and others of her ilk. What goes around always comes around don’t you know Dusty?
By TommyT
February 26, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
dustbuster, what Dusty does is sleep it on. She is the Peg Bundy of the blogosphere. Eat, sleep, do a post, gain a few pounds. Dusty the pig only gets fater and fatter and fatter. How appropriate that the standard barer of her party loves to attack pork.
By Allah says Dump A BUCKET OF PIG BLOOD ON DUSTY AKA JMBLAW
February 26, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this
Dusty, are you at work today, or are you posting from home?
By Phil
February 26, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this
Good Morning Mr. Wooten,
I think your comments today are dead on. I also have my own extra set of issues with some local “Republicans”. I have been very dis-heartened and disappointed with the actions of many in the state Republican party. Even though I consider myself more of a conservative than a liberal, I find that voting for many of these Georgia Republicans may not be possible for me this year and potentially in future elections. I’d rather have a Democrat in office that I feel I can trust than a Republican that I cannot trust.
By Glenn
February 26, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
Apocalypse,
Too elliptical for me; I don’t get it. Why the non sequitor, cueing on my compliment to the Kosmonaut who ran the Library of Congress bill lists on the two candidates? I was trying to say that her resourcefulness and analytical diligence combine to offer a kind of working definition of what it means to be educated in this particular place & at this moment. No need for Harvard or Yale, Oxy, Columbia (please, no!) or Wellesley. (But then, what’s need got to do with Higher Ed?)
But yes, both candidates were very fortunate in their elite collegiate experiences. Some smart scribe is going to take a cold look at what those respective experiences mean and don’t mean, as we weigh the candidates, and provided said scribler does so better than Newsweek can do, will earn a feather in the eyeshade.
By GayGreyGeek
February 26, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
What I’m looking forward to is the sight of Dusty proclaiming her neverending allegiance to President Obama because he is the President and shall be worshipped because he is Her President. Tee-hee.
By Apocalypse
February 26, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
Dusty,
The picture was taken in Wajir, a rural area of Kenya.
I only post Obama info that add value and integrity to this blog. I do not post things that perputate lies and deceit.
By Carbon Footprint
February 26, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
Dont get off message, liberals. Wooten exposed himself this morning, and I’m not letting him get away with all the incorrect premises which led him to his absurd conclusion which is also incorrect. Throw in the totally unreadable yet clearly wrong summary jbmlaw added, and you get a poster twin epitomy of stupidity which also happens to be the vestiges of the GOP.
The idea that there are conservatives who are not GOPs refutes subset logic. The idea that there are GOPs that are not conservatives doesn’t pass the juxtoposed smell test, where it doesn’t matter which one of two sumo-wrestlers farted to the referee, who has to get in close to judge anything.
But lets have some fun and really take an even closer look at Wooten’s unrestrained logic: He lost 90% of the readers by the end of paragraph three, where his abrupt change of topic via an incomplete sentence left the reader dangling off a cliff.
If there was a proper segue, or some distant unrealized connection, he should have accomplished the eulogy as form of accomplice with two lines. (Accomplicing eulogies are most distasteful. Shame, sir.)
But lets plod on like he did. Wooten’s premise is that there is some secret society of stealth conservatives who, like Nixon’s silent majority, are not swayed nor affected by the tectonic socio-political changes that have characterized our demography in the past 15 years. This invention is in reality the vestiges of the Bush Base, who cling to evangelical bitterness about the sins of their own fathers.
Next, Wooten’s three-tiered argument has all the evidentiary value of an Islamic Court and if considered, would prove to be exculpatory to the prosecution of his thesis.
In closing, I would remind this blog that a man’s debating skills are not measured by how much he convinces himself, but by how much he can convince others. Wooten is seeing Nixon’s ghost wandering the breeched castle of his own rueful nostalgia.
By TommyT
February 26, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Neither jbmlaw or Dusty works. They’re way too busy blogging.
By Apocalypse
February 26, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
Glenn,
Sorry, but your vocabulary is beyond my realm of conversation.
I do believe I get your point though. The question now remains, who will get the nomination.
I do believe that you know my choice, which is based on ideals a bit more than education.
By Glenn
February 26, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
Nobody should proclaim their allegiance, fleeting or neverending, to President __, but only to the President, whoever may be the occupant of that highest office.
That’s the crucial distinction the blurring of which caused a lot of people to flee Germany; moreover, the breakdown of that distinction did turn out to presage a compulsory “worship” of the supreme leader.
The moral of all classical Greek mythology, “gnothi seauton”, does not mean “know thyself”; it means “know thy place”. A reminder of the penultimate importance of mere mortals.
By catlady
February 26, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
The End is near! I agree with all three points! However, Mr. jbmlaw(8:19), I fear the Republicans and conservatives have jumped in bed together (isn’t that against the law in Georgia?) and have been quite happy to answer to each other’s name for a long time. You can’t cry “he made me” if you have been doing it too. Now that it is inconvenient to be cross-identified (is that like cross-dressing?), it is a bit disingeneous to say that The Party really does not represent you.
By Ron
February 26, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
Curious Observer,Welcome to the land of retirement.Any plans?
By Daily Obama
February 26, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
Well, half of America voted for the fighter Clinton and half voted for the weak, lying, hope for unity.
Half is wrong one way or another.
I think w will declare combat missions in Iraq are over to take Iraq out of the election.
The gop are not going to hand over all the power they stole without pulling out all their dirty tricks.
Obama will not fight back, Clinton will.
It is as simple as that.
By Joe Bland
February 26, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
I read yesterday where Dickson’s, er, rather Richardson’s tax plan would leave the state with a huge revenue shortfall. Good. Then maybe they would cut spending for goodness sake.
By Daily Obama
February 26, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
Obama’s first lie was after he won the Senate. He spewed he would not run for President until he had enough experience. He lied and ran anyway with no experience.
Half of America bought into a lying, weak, politician with no experience.
Half of America got punked.
By GayGreyGeek
February 26, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Glenn @ 10:40 - I fully agree, which is why Dusty’s repeated insistence over these many months and years that anything and everything Bush has done is just Peachy Keen because he is the President and the President is always right presages her unquestioning support for anything and everything that President Obama shall do.
By Dusty
February 26, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Imagination runs wild here this morning, the greatest fantasy being that Obama might be President of the United States. An east African country perhaps but not the USA. That is because I do not think he is qualified to “run” any large country.
I certainly do support the President of the United States as long as he acts like the President of the United States and follows the oath he took.
Lying, cheating, and “chasing women”(lack of ethics & morality) are not permitted under that oath. It also breaks the promise of support that citizens have given.
Before you libs try to indict President Bush here, which has been your main goal, he has NOT broken the oath he took. You can cite all the rumors, forgeries and dreams you want, but you cannot find anything legal against Bush. You would have already delivered them if you had anything.
Truthful disagreements are OK. As I mentioned before, I will do my part for a president who does not break the oath of office. I am not a lib that thinks “anything goes” for the President of the USA as long as he is a Democrat.
By Allah says Dump A BUCKET OF PIG BLOOD ON DUSTY AKA JMBLAW
February 26, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
Here is part of the Instruction Manual on Foreign Policy that Hillary failed to read and understand: First Rule - Avoid foreign Military Entanglements: by George Washington : HILLARY FAILED TO READ AND UNDERSTAND THE MANUAL, AND MILLIONS DIED AND WERE MAIMED FOR LIFE
By jbmlaw
February 26, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
Dear Catlady @ 10:42, your argument is internally sound, but I disagree in part. Certainly the democrats have made their party unwelcome to conservatives, so conservatives gravitate toward republicans. However, we also find republicans attempting to enhance their respectability by claiming, falsely in some cases, to be conservatives. They are cheapening our brand name. So while I think it reasonable that I embrace the republican party, it is still appropriate for me to object to misattribution of nonconservative policies, e.g., “compassionate conservatisim” which is undoubtedly compassionate but rarely conservative.
By deegee
February 26, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
Georgia republicans shot their credibility wad when they voted overwhelmingly for Mike Huckabee on Super Tuesday. All a republican has to do in this state to get elected is profess to be the best Christian. It doesn’t matter what they do, as long as they make the most convincing case for being a good Christian. People that know better will grab their wallets and run as soon as an individual states that you should do business or vote for them because they are a good Christian.
By catlady
February 26, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
Can anyone envision Mrs. Obama as First Lady?
Which is worse,Dusty? Lying, cheating, and chasing women or lying, cheating, and bankrupting our country? I’d rather Bill have his little bit than the hell we face in the future for Bush’s antics.
I wish we had on tape each of the Democratic candidates’ reasons for voting for or against the war, in real time. WHY did Clinton vote for? Why did Obama vote against? In their words at the time of the vote?
I fear for our country with any of our candidates.
By Dusty
February 26, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
Dear Catty Lady @11:20
Wipe your tears on your white flag and relax. My husband is not in the presidential race. I am not making plans to bake cookies in the White House. Now would I get excited at the possibility and say that this is the FIRST TIME I HAVE FOUND ANYTHING GOOD IN THE USA.
Just call me Dusty, not Michelle. For your information, I already have a house where I am first lady.
By Carbon Footprint
February 26, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
Apocalypse, I think I can translate Glenn’s comment for you: “Book larnin’ is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, unless you’re a potatoe”
‘muff said
By Allah says Dump A BUCKET OF PIG BLOOD ON DUSTY AKA JMBLAW
February 26, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
Dusty and her common law husband are both reformed drunks living out of card board boxes under the 17th street bridge, while telling themselves they are living at the “in place” of Atlantic Station….A place that stole from the toll payers on Ga 400 millions of dollars via that crook and former governor of Georgia, Roy (I’m not a Crook) Barnes, imho. Hey Roy, you are a thief imho, and should be in prison with 99% of all worthless Ga lawyers….Sic him Bubba, your new cell mate…
By Allah says Dump A BUCKET OF PIG BLOOD ON DUSTY AKA JMBLAW
February 26, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this
Carbon Footprint is right to say we should poke a stick in the eyes of all ga lawyers, the lying, stinking, thieving scum.. They owe their lives to the fact that there is a law against kill them, no matter how badly they need killin’…May Allah give them all throat cancer real soon….
By @o@
February 26, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this
Count Dousty, stfu!
Dousty, you count, quit blogging. nobody wants to read one more word from you, you big fat hairy count!
By Sales Tax??
February 26, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
Will the new tax structure be deductible? As it stands, I can at least deduct real estate and ad valorem taxes on my Federal filing, in addition to Georgia income tax. I don’t think that you can deduct sales tax if you deduct income tax. So it seems that the Speaker’s plan will increase my overall tax burden? Is this correct?
By Allah says Dump A BUCKET OF PIG BLOOD ON DUSTY AKA JMBLAW
February 26, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
Dusty you smell like rotten fish…Take a Bath….allah has a shower waiting for you….
By Shar
February 26, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten: Thank you very much for this morning’s column. The issues you spotlight are the sorts of things that politicians prefer to limit public debate on, yet which can aggregate into a significant long term effect on the State.
I appreciate you using this space to apply a bit of sunlight’s antiseptic, as I do the postings of folks much more knowledgable in this area than I am.
By jbmlaw
February 26, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this
Dear Sales Tax @ 12:22, you analyze correctly. The Federal congressional overlords have a strong bias in favor of income taxes and against sales taxes. For the past couple of years, citizens of every state could elect between the two deductions, but were forbidden from claiming deductions for both taxes, even when actually paid. I think that perverse inconsistency reflects flawed Federal thinking rather than a defect in any state.
By Allah says Dump A BUCKET OF PIG BLOOD ON DUSTY AKA JMBLAW
February 26, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
I’ll take McCain over Hillary any day of the week and twice on Sunday! At least John knows how to use a woman for what God intended, unlike Hillary and her dy ke s, who would lick em where they excrete…
By Count Dousty
February 26, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
Okay, lets just try to define this elusive rogue GOP splinter group called “Conservatives”.
If the true measure of a conservative is fiscal restraint, then Bill Clinton is the greatest conservative in the last half century.
If the true measure of a conservative is ethical behavioral restraint, then let an Islamic Court decide who’s conservative.
If the true measure of a conservative is nationalistic and patriotic lock step, then Hitler is the greatest conservative who ever lived.
The flag and religion are the last refuges of a scoundrel. Thus a conservative can be defined as a loyal and holy scoundrel.
Yes, that is different than GOP pirates. Point well taken, jbmlaw, and mr wooten.
You two have nothing, you’re the pathetic remnants of a movement long since abandoned by the vocal majority in this country. Find another country, but do stfu.
Vote Obama. We’ve got a country. Oh, boy, have we got a country.!!
By Disgusted
February 26, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
Sales Tax @12:22,
Some of us are old enough to remember when sales taxes as well as property taxes were deductible. For that matter, interest on credit cards and installment loans was deductible.
Those provisions went by the board when Congress revamped the federal tax code in order to jack up revenues and fund new initiatives.
What’s important to remember at the state level is that changes in the tax code will never occur if those changes do not mean more revenue for the state. Even today, Georgia has not adopted the federal changes of the 1980s in depreciation rates and methods because those changes would cost the state revenue.
You can take this principle to the bank: any change in the Georgia tax code will work to your disadvantage and to the advantage of the well-heeled. People who pay the highest proportion of their income in sales taxes do not make campaign contributions. People who pay the highest property taxes do make campaign contributions.
That’s all you need to know about the Richardson proposal—that and the fact that his proposal would increase the power of the state legislature at the expense of local entities.
By Democrat Crossover
February 26, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
The beauty of Democrat policies set forth is that sometimes, said policies can come back to bite them. It appears there will be a lot of crossover voters soon. Guess who’s only now crying foul?
Wow there is an overload of hatred regarding politics on this blog, both between the left and the right and between Obama and Clinton fans. Most of the political hate of course appears to come from the wingnut left. The Obama vs. Clinton scrap has already escalated into physical violence. It happened in upstate PA. A Clintonite stabs an Obama supporter who just happens to be his brother in law!
By radio buzzed
February 26, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
“Carbon Footprint is right to say we should poke a stick in the eyes of all ga lawyers, the lying, stinking, thieving scum..”
Wackjob: Do you have that same sentiment on other lawyers like John Edwards? We don’t want to see you to come across as inconsistent or anything.
By catlady
February 26, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this
Dusty, perhaps my point was too obscure. I was not directing my comments —except for the one about the oath of office (oaf of office) —to you. What I hoped you were getting was that sin is sin. No ranking hierarchy (cheating is not worse than robbing). And that ALL the candidates stink. Some worse than others, maybe, but STINK is STINK, red or blue.
Meeoww!
By Chuck
February 26, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
Why can’t the Georgia Legislature (led by Republicans)follow Florida’s lead and cut property taxes by getting the counties and municipalities to cut their spending? Why is a cut in any type of government spending never an answer to a crisis? Moving the tax dollars around is, like you said, just an increase in the size and control of government.
By Glenn
February 26, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this
As a matter of fact I haven’t said anything about the “education” of the Democratic candidates, except that they are fortunate in their elite schooling. The only point I’ve made about education is that the resourcefulness of the woman who reported in DailyKos the result of her smart search of Clinton’s and Obama’s respective Senate Bill histories—-that the writer’s resourcefulness and analytical savvy seems near to what we now want and need in “the educated”, whether they got their “education” formally or informally, or got it for themselves or from others.
Jim, you’ve obviously hit a nerve with this column by reminding readers that you are, after all, a conservative first and Republican later. I myself don’t buy it, from you or from that lying sack of sh!t John McCain. You think liberal ideas are sexy as hell, and he only rarely comes home, wet, from his submission to his Left-swinging bedfellows. You both smell tellingly.
In this headline and column you repeatedly and deliberately confuse conservatism with Republicanism, so as to leave readers with a conflation of the two. That’s propaganda. People are sick to death of picking up their morning newspaper or tuning in their evening news and getting propagandized.
Try again, Mr. Wooten.
By Orbiter12
February 26, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
“You two have nothing, you’re the pathetic remnants of a movement long since abandoned by the vocal majority in this country. Find another country, but do stfu.” - 1:14 post
No kidding is there a lot of hate here from the kook left. Where do these people come from? Wow.
By Dusty
February 26, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
Did any one of you see our liberals Joe Biden (D) and Chuck Hagel(R)on Lehrer News Hour last night? There they were, explaining and explaing what they really said in Pakistan about elections that curtailed President’s Musharrat’s political future. Pakistani spokesmen were NOT happy.
Biden got cute, paraphrased Dylan Thomas and said “I think he (Musharrat) will go gently into the good night.”
To this the Pakistanis almost paraphrased their direct answer to Biden with “Rage, rage, against the dying of the light” ‘cause we have no interest in what you have to say.
That’s our two liberal Senators (Hagel IS liberal), going overseas at our expense and upseting those who have been our allies.
Wouldn’t it be nice if they would stay home and tend to their own business?
By getalife
February 26, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
When were repudlickers ever credible. They are politicians, they have not earned our trust, they have tossed it like the feedoms Americans have fought and died for.
Make them earn our trust and stop blindly finding them credible.
Rule #1 in politics.
Never ever trust a politician
When they ban lobbyists, then you will see change.
By Jim's a Cherry Picker
February 26, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
Hi Jim,
Sorry I missed out on this earlier.
And sorry to see that the local GOPers are continuing to break your heart and their promises…just like the ones in DC.
Seems like there’s a huge disconnect between what politicians say and what they do…how ‘bout that?
By Apocalypse
February 26, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
This morning, the New York Times reported that Senator Clinton is launching what even her aides admit is a “kitchen sink” bombardment of negative attacks against Barack.
This is the same stale, Washington playbook that has driven so many Americans away from the political process.
Yesterday, in a speech on foreign policy, Senator Clinton misrepresented Barack’s positions and compared him to George W. Bush.
She questioned his “wisdom to manage our foreign policy and safeguard our national security,” despite her support for Bush’s war in Iraq — a war that Barack showed the judgment to oppose before it ever began.
These negative tactics are exactly what voters have been rejecting this election season.
While others focus on trying to tear us down, we will continue to highlight what is most inspiring and most important about this campaign — you.
And while others may try to score cheap political points, millions of ordinary Americans are talking to their neighbors, knocking on doors, making phone calls, and turning out to primaries and caucuses in record numbers to support this movement for change.
Barack has organized and inspired what yesterday’s Time magazine called a “new breed of grassroots campaign — viral, internet-based, built from the ground up.”
Today, we are within reach of a goal that is unprecedented at this point in a presidential primary — one million people giving to this campaign.
Thank you for being a part of this historic moment.
This campaign has always been about bringing new people into the political process. Please help us reach this goal and show your support for a new kind of politics and a new kind of leadership.
Make an additional donation today as part of our matching program, and encourage a fellow supporter to give for the first time:
https://donate.barackobama.com/promise
Thank you for your support,
David
David Plouffe Campaign Manager Obama for America
By Glenn
February 26, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
Apocalypse,
You can pretty well assume by now that if folks here wanted to get spammed by barackobama.com, they’d have clicked on that link and left their email addresses. You can save yourself the trouble of copy & paste.
By Ron
February 26, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
Mr. Apocoflips,Just who did pay for Obama’s house.I’m getting confused on that issue.What does Obama owe to Nadhmi Auchi?
By Apocalypse
February 26, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Glenn,
Actually, I pretty well assumed since they have so much to say about Barack Obama, that would have interest in knowing what his own people say.
You know, for educational purposes.
Ron,
Beats me bud. If it were relevant to the campaign, I’d find out.
By getalife
February 26, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this
This is the kind of crap the gop will use
By Dusty
February 26, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
Oh yawn…but I am reminded of great poetry even among the sad lines of lost ones (Plouffe).@1:58
Blame goes to the efforts of Apocalypse and his everlasting propaganda:
The day was cold and dark and dreary,
The wind did blow (like Apo) and was never weary.
The vine still clung to the mouldering wall,
At each gust of wind, the dead leaves fall.
I think Edgar Allan Poe must have read some of Big Da Plouffe of Campaign Obama. More brain numbing propaganda. Dreary…..zzzzz
By Apocalypse
February 26, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Unfortunately you are correct, but it won’t work.
By Jackie
February 26, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
News reports indicate that the Consumer Confidence Index has fallen dramatically, the rate of inflation is 1% from the month of January, the number of foreclosures are at a record, the number of new home sales have fallen by more than 50%, etc., etc., etc.. Our ally - Pakistan, the chief supporter of the Taliban - has told us they will conduct their elections in any manner they choose and have given us the “bird.” They have nuclear weapons and a missile to deliver those weapons ANYWHERE in the Middle East. Our debt is a record levels, we are spending $5,400 dollars PER SECOND in Iraq. If we use the standard measure most businesses use, where is our Return On Investment? To make matter even worse, there are retailers in New York accepting the Euro for payment. Dubya has been a wonderful caretaker!!!!!
By Apocalypse
February 26, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
I know that your posts are a result of the eventual loss of your party in the white house. You have my sympathies.
Due to my own sensitivity to your dilemna, I will not criticize you.
By Jackie
February 26, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
News reports just released indicate the US Marine Corps is upset and wants the Pentagon to investigate why they were not provided the MWRAP vehicles when requested in 2003-2004. The vehicles are of South African design and are more than 20 years old. The requested vehicle would have prevented Marines from dying or being injured by roadside bombs in Iraq. News reports indicate the reason for the delay was due to the supplier problems, even though those folks had a non-bid contract and were overpaid for the vehicles. I wonder who can defend this criminal action and who purportedly supports our troops?
By Apocalypse
February 26, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
I posted this on all the major Ohio newspapers.
”[…] Hillary Clinton has made statements unequivocally trumpeting NAFTA as the greatest thing since sliced bread. The Buffalo News reports that back in 1998, Clinton attended the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, and thanked praised corporations for mounting “a very effective business effort in the U.S. on behalf of NAFTA.” Yes, you read that right: She traveled to Davos to thank corporate interests for their campaign ramming NAFTA through Congress.
On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton “touted the president’s support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region.”
The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that “the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement.”
In her memoir, Clinton wrote, “Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn’t hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill’s successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA.”
Yes, we are all expected to just forget that, so that Hillary Clinton’s campaign can manufacture supposed “outrage” that anyone would say she supported NAFTA - all at a time her chief strategist, Mark Penn, simultaneously heads a firm that is right now pushing to expand NAFTA into South America.
What a total insult to America’s intelligence”
By Allah says Dump A BUCKET OF PIG BLOOD ON DUSTY AKA JMBLAW
February 26, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
Dusty, when you are unemployed and broke, you can count on me to offer you help: Get a job you lazy bum! There, that should do it, you have been helped.
By @@
February 26, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
It seems like Dorothy Felton rallied for something near and dear to her heart.
Politicians too often do that, but for all the wrong reasons whereas - money & power. Dorothy’s were for the right.
So I should be disappointed to find out that Georgia’s Republicans are politicians? I’ll go one better…I’ll give them “the look” in the next election. When all else fails with my students, I resort to “the look.” It’s the one that lets them know I mean business.
I’m reading about Joe Biden’s latest insanities and asking myself “What was I thinking?” I always liked Joe - thought he was smarter than the average democrat only to find out that he’s as dumb as the rest.
I’m still standing firm on the sales tax though Jim. It offers me more financial control than my property taxes do. Good grief! while my property taxes here in Clayton County go up, the quality of life here goes down. I couldn’t sell my house for the value the county has placed on it even if I wanted to. It’s been my greatest financial investment and the local politicians have squandered it.
By the way, I’m planning to sign a petition to recall our B.O.E. members even though I don’t have a child in the system. Those idiots are suffering from a bad case of the union Trots if’n you know what I mean.
Dusty:
Here I am supporting Joe Biden again. I think Joe’s right when he says Musharraf will go gently into the night. The Bush administration is hoping he will as well. Musharraf has given his best but it’s time for him to step aside.
By Allah says Dump A BUCKET OF PIG BLOOD ON DUSTY AKA JMBLAW
February 26, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
The Gay and Lesbian Party just endorced Hillary Rodham Clinton for President! This was a lick-ety split decision!
By GayGreyGeek
February 26, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
Allah - there is no “Gay and Lesbian Party”, unless you mean the late-night ones that used to go on at Backstreet back in the ‘80’s and ‘90’s.
If you mean the closeted assimilationists of the Human Rights Campaign, what would you expect, having the same initials and all?
By @@
February 26, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
Dang! Exposed and transposed…
Should have read:
Politicians too often do that, but for all the wrong reasons money & power - whereas Dorothy’s were for the right.
By Curious Observer
February 26, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this
Musharraf has given his best but it’s time for him to step aside.
Yes, now that we’ve supported a junta head for years while advocating elections, by all means let’s turn Pakistan’s affairs over to the two parties that are more friendly to bin Laden. Pay no attention to those nukes that Musharraf has been safeguarding. After all, Democracy in Pakistan will protect us from attack.
By BS Aplenty
February 26, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
Jim, we have a need, particularly in the conservative movement, to speak candidly on the need for a vigorous private health insurance market. The need is for private, high-deductible health insurance policies. I think a more competitive, Wal-Mart-like market for such policies could develop if individuals could cost-effectively transfer from their company plans. What we do currently with private employer health policies is like asking your employer to form a cooperative so you can buy cheaper food, cars, houses, etc - you only empower your employer, not yourself.
Private health care policies mean that individuals gain the freedom to pay for their own health care lifestyle. If you want to live it up then by all means be a maverick. Your thrill-seeker lifestyle translates into higher health care premiums. Another’s less risky lifestyle coupled with sound nutrition and exercise should translate into a lower premium. The premium for either lifestyle could be further managed with a significant deductible.
Unfortunately, it appears that many Republicans have been led to believe that ultimately the government is the only party that can resolve the country’s health care issues. But be not fooled, Socialist healthcare will only encourage more people to live unhealthy lifestyles and continue to eat a larger hole in the federal & state budgets particularly as the country ages. Ultimately, we’re only postponing the inevitable collapse that awaits Socialist healthcare policies. But that’s for another generation to worry about, right?
You know, as an individual, I could be entreated to look forward to government healthcare hand-outs, but as an American, I know the long term consequences of that type of mental & physical laziness. So, call me old-fashioned but I’m simply not going to accept government healthcare. I’ll pay for my own health as I go and rely on private market insurance to cover major expenses.
At the end of my days, I die on my own D_AMN terms. Hopefully, the founding fathers would be proud.
By Allah says Dump A BUCKET OF PIG BLOOD ON DUSTY AKA JMBLAW
February 26, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
Osama bin Loudin just endorced Hillary Rodham Clinton for President!
By Allah says Dump A BUCKET OF PIG BLOOD ON DUSTY AKA JMBLAW
February 26, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
Allah has turned the lights off in Florida!!!
By Dusty
February 26, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
@@ 3:03
Joe Biden is an OK liberal. Not mnay politicians have sons in the military and Joe does. I like that.
My point about Biden was his delivery to the Iraqi press. I do not think he was designated speaker for US foreign policy. He did not use diplomacy doing it.
If you had heard all the apologizing from Biden and Hagel last night, you would see that both of them probably said too much. They should stick to the work waiting for them at home.
By Disgusted
February 26, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
I’ll pay for my own health as I go and rely on private market insurance to cover major expenses.
And what happens when you get old or develop a dread disease, Independent Boy? Think those insurance companies will want you then? Feel free to die of stupidity if you want, but most of the rest of us want no part of your jungle attitude.
By @@
February 26, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
Dusty:
Okey Dokey.
I do not think he was designated speaker for US foreign policy. He did not use diplomacy doing it.
I’ll stick ^^^ that in Joes dumb column.
I think Musharraf is looking to make a graceful exit. General Kayani will take over from there.
Terrorists beware!
By BS Aplenty
February 26, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
Disgusted Your post is only a cogent argument for lobotomizing liberals like yourself and not much else.
I’d let the government pay for that.
By Glenn
February 26, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
Jackie,
Correct me if I’m wrong, but here’s the way the Marine Corps beef will play out. The issue will get a couple letters of concern from congress members to the Liaison Office. Being triangulated from the Hill, the serving personnel and the veterans, the Pentagon will refer the matter to the Navy I.G., and since nobody gets to be I.G. without being a four-star a$$-coverer and company boy, the issue gets some drooling lip service sometime after the news cycles have turned over a couple thousand times.
Sound about right?
By Count Dousty
February 26, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this
Glenn: You couldn’t predict the outcome of a bowel movement, stinky.
and shout the fouck oup, dousty, yoou count. (and mooron)
By Joe Bland
February 26, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this
OK, so are the Falcons going to trip on the character issue again? Darren McFadden has one ba$tard child and brags of two more on the way.
By Count Dousty
February 26, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this
The Falcons are already mathematically eliminated from the playoffs this year and the season is still 6 months away, dopist.
By Disgusted
February 26, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this
Glenn,
Huh? Quit playing on military websites where you couldn’t get a job and get back to doing what you do best - saying next to nothing in 10,000 words or more.
That sounds about right to me.
By Count Dousty
February 26, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
Go ahead, Glenn, tell us what conservatism is. Make our day.
Know what? You cant. Oh, you can write prattle well enough, like a retard with an electric pen, but any serious debate, where you have to use the english language, would expose you for the medium range phallustic buttmissile you truly are. (and your little jbmdog too)
Okay, tonite, watch all my predictions come true. Hillary on the offensive early. Making eye contact. Trying to rally momentum with demigoguery. Obama’s writers probably have a “plan b” line in case hillary starts to score.
Must see tv. If you miss it, then you’re gay, sorry, that’s one of the tests. (like the way you look at your fingernails…palms away, fingers outstretched = you’re gay, and a shmoehawk, but palm toward and fingers curled, then you’re metrosexual chic and a greathawk.
By Glenn
February 26, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this
First of all sphincter, it wasn’t addressed to you. Second, WTF is with the bit about military websites? What military websites? What job?
Try dressing up as Wally George tonight. Might get you some. The wig, the lipstick. I mean, you’ve already got all that stuff—-why not strut it?
You go, girl.
By Disgusted
February 26, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this
5:25 not mine, although I’d be happy to see an end of Glenn’s interminable rants.
By Jackie
February 26, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this
@Glenn,
Another fine example of how Dubya is use our military to cover his criminality. He and his criminal cronies are the only ones to “profit” from this illegal and unnecessary war. Afghanistan was the war the needed to happen. Dubya invaded a country that was a counter-balance to Iran. Now, the entire balance of the Middle East is upset; Turkey fighting the Kurds; Iran exhibiting greater control in Iraq; Israel still occupying and the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the name of maintaining the territorial sovereignty. A leader that employs torture and redention to obtain invalid and dated information when he had the information about 9/11 in a memo of 9/08 and was spoken to directly by the NSA; he chose to ignore the NSA and Conddi was not aware of what was going on, therefore, did not impress upon Dubya concerning the seriousness of the matter. A lot of lost lives and lost treasure. The real war in Afghanistan is beginning to heat up and we do not have the resources or personnel to fight this war effectively. The Joint Chiefs stated publicly that if another major conflict were to occur today, we do not have the resources to intervene, nor the resources to adequately protect ourselves. When do we impeach these criminals?
By Glenn
February 26, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this
Count till yer Blue,
I can only tell you what conservatism is not, and what my own school of conservatism is. Conservatism is a rejection of collective progress on an historical scale, especially of inevitable human progress. It is likewise a rejection of social instrumentalism—-of the use of numbers of people to achieve a collective end not determined by them. Conservatism respects (and conserves) tradition as one way of knowing—-of cultural knowing.
My own conservatism is extreme in that it’s drawn from the Scholastics of the 12th Century. They left their religious philosophy in several forms, including stone. The great cathedrals they built are crowned with humility, with the greatest and most inventive, symbolic expression of their conservatism: the spire.
Liberalism says, “Know thyself.”
Conservatism says, “Know thy place.”
Conservatism’s right.
By Jackie
February 26, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this
Army Chief of Staff Casey testified before the House and stated the tours in Iraq need to be cut back to 12 months as the current tours are causing a major strain on the forces. Dubya has said that he is the “decider” and he will make the decision as to whether these troops need more time away from the carnage.
By Dusty
February 26, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this
Ok, children, time to go get your tummies filled so you won’t be madder than the Mad Hatter. Sounds like we may have a po ol’fo running wild again, speaking of madness.
Glenn, Jackie is not seeking explanations. He simply wants to dump a bunch of complaints on anybody who will listen. All the complaints will be about the military, the treatment of veterans and Bush is to blame. He has a one track mind and absorbs nothing. I skip over his litanies because I don’t think he can overcome the maladies of his mind.
Good night all. Sleep tight etc. etc. etc.
By BigDaddy
February 28, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
Speaking directly to the issue raised about SB 433, the bill that would grant a special allowance to Cancer Treatment Centers of America - how is this not a prime example of Republicans being bought out by a special interest group? This has nothing to do with conservative principles, to which I adhere. CTCA is buying their way through the State House by promising to pay off campaign debts. Their goal is to completely circumvent the process through which every other cancer treatment provider must go to add services. This is not a level playing field and does not represent fairness in competition. The message that was sent yesterday when this bill passed is that votes are for sale.
Shame on the Republican senators who are trying to spin this as an attempt to introduce competition into the cancer care community. And shame on Mr. Wooten for buying into this nonsense.
I have no problem with CTCA trying to build a cancer hospital here in Georgia. BUT, they should have to go through the same process that every other provider in Georgia goes through. THAT is fairness in competition. It is not competition to which providers are opposed - it is special treatment for one competitor to which providers are opposed.
Last I checked, buying votes is definitely NOT a tactic with which Right Thinking conservatives should associate themselves.
By WW4
February 29, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
ONE GUY PAYS $3K IN PROPERTY TAXES AND ANOTHER PAYS $10K. IF WE DO AWAY WITH THE TAX AND ADD ADDITIONAL SALES TAXES TO REPLACE PROPERTY TAX, THE GUY PAYING $3K WILL STILL PAY $3K, BUT THE GUY PAYING $10K IN PROPERTY TAXES WILL NOT COME CLOSE TO SPENDING THAT MUCH IN SALES TAXES. CAN YOU SAY “IN THE RED”!
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March 30, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
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