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DEL.ICIO.USA ‘hit job’ on McCain?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The story rumored to be in the works throughout the latter stages of the Republican presidential campaign — that John McCain had an improper relationship with a female lobbyist about the time he ran for President in 2000 — popped into the open Wednesday. It’s published today in The New York Times. McCain’s lawyer, Robert Bennett, insists it’s “shameless” and “entirely unsourced” and a “real hit job.” McCain at a press conference today said “it’s not true.”
Here are a few of the first paragraphs to give you the flavor of the story:
“A female lobbyist had been turning up with him at fund-raisers, visiting his offices and accompanying him on a client’s corporate jet. Convinced the relationship had become romantic, some of his top advisers intervened to protect the candidate from himself — instructing staff members to block the woman’s access, privately warning her away and repeatedly confronting him, several people involved in the campaign said on the condition of anonymity.
“When news organizations reported that Mr. McCain had written letters to government regulators on behalf of the lobbyist’s client, the former campaign associates said, some aides feared for a time that attention would fall on her involvement.
“Mr. McCain, 71, and the lobbyist, Vicki Iseman, 40, both say they never had a romantic relationship. But to his advisers, even the appearance of a close bond with a lobbyist whose clients often had business before the Senate committee Mr. McCain led threatened the story of redemption and rectitude that defined his political identity.”
The story then goes on to revive the Keating Five savings and loan scandal and suggests that McCain had not been true to the ethical standard he set for himself and the image he cultivated “as the scourge of special interests, a crusader for stricter ethics and campaign finance rules, a man of honor chastened by a brush with shame.”
It’s impossible, based on the Times account, to know whether there was anything improper in McCain’s relationship with the lobbyist.
The problem is that two men — a powerful public official and a lobbyist — can have an “intimate” converstion in a restaurant and the assumption is that it’s about legislation. It may be improper, but the immediate assumption is not that it’s romantic. If the lobbyist is female, and especially one who’s attractive, the first reaction is otherwise — that it’s personal.
Evangelist Billy Graham had a policy throughout his ministry that he would always have an aide or another person present when he was in a car or room with a woman other than his wife. That’s not a practical policy for a political figure, especially since it disadvantages the access of a female lobbyist to a male power figure or, in the case of a Nancy Pelosi, the male lobbyist.
But certainly a political figure who repeatedly engages in behavior that seems too familiar and that invites on-lookers to question its propriety, should heed the warnings — and return to the Billy Graham rule. Or, failing that, if his conduct begins to disminish respect for the public office he holds, he should step down.
A hit job? I’d not be particularly concerned about The Times story yet. It was bound to come out. Better now than later.
Comments
By TAFKAH
February 21, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this
Huckabee is behind this. Bet the farm.
Who benefits most from this story? Yep. Huckster, the last man standing.
Nothing like a backwoods preacher to serve up a dose of sad-faced moralising….
By Redneck Convert
February 21, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
Well, I might of knowed. The librul Democrats have took out after McCain like my old coon dog tracks a scent after he picks one up. I ain’t seen such a news ruckus since the Rev. Jim Bob Buice got caught with that nekkid boy. Here’s a godly Republican, even if he is a little too librul, and he’s being accused of doing You Know What with this lobby woman. And if you look at a picture of the woman you almost feel sorry for him, not being able to do no better than that. But my buddy Jim Earl says even old and ugly women need some love, otherwise people like Sister Dusty would just feel spurned and lonely.
I reckon next they will put McCain in the Hall of Republican Hero Studs, along with the godly Sen. Vitter, the godly Wide Stance Craig, and the godly Rep. Foley. Its got to the point you can’t even take your zipper down without somebody making out like you are some kind of prevert. From now on, I won’t even unzip to go to the bathroom. My friend Joe Bill says leastwise this news takes peoples minds off of the Keating Five thing. Anyway, it sure is sorry news to greet the godly Rep. Ney when he gets out of prison today.
Anyhow, Clinton done it first so turnabout is fair play. Godly Republicans need You Know What too. I guess most of them are so excited when they read about what librul Democrats have did that they can’t help theirselfs. You spend most of your time reading reports about what goes on in librul Democrats bedrooms and trying to put a stop to it that it eats at you, and after a while you take out after some woman or man or boy. Anyway, I would vote for the Republican if I seen a picture of him in bed with a sheep before I would vote for a librul Democrat.
I can’t hardly even think of this old withered man in a motel room, fumbling and trying to do You Know What with this woman. But its hard for me not to think about it and it kind of ruins my day.
Have a good day everybody.
By Ron
February 21, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this
Good morning Jim,I'll say this about the McCain story;if it's true,good for John.If it's not true,shame on the one who started the rumor.If this story influences anyone not to vote for McCain,they are stupid,stupid,stupid.By Dennis
February 21, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
Hypocracy reigns. If this affair business was about Bill Clinton, Mr. Wooten would be all for condeming it.
I will not be voting for McCain, but any affair, alleged or real, Clinton or McCain, is the business of the families.
Unless, of course, you happen to be a right wing political or religeous conservative.p.s. “By Redneck Convert February 21, 2008 9:08 AM, “I can’t hardly even think of this old withered man in a motel room, fumbling and trying to do You Know What with this woman. But its hard for me not to think about it and it kind of ruins my day.”
You aren’t very experienced, are you…:)?
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By getalife
February 21, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
Oh, the cons are blaming the Times for McLover porking the lobbyist.
AhhahahahaHAHAHAHA.
Aw man that is funny.
By Glenn
February 21, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
Two things, Jim:
You have no standing whatever to adjudicate this topic under the masthead of the AJC, because you, your fellow editors, your ombudsman too stupid to call herself that, and the AJC’s legal staff did nothing about the AJC’s repeated publication of defamatory lies stating that Rudy Giuliani repeatedly and feloniously lobbied for interests inimical to the commonweal.
The AJC is missing the biggest story in a long time, which is Wal-Mart’s unveiling of in-house medical clinics—-a story that blows the whole premise of Sunday’s Op-Ed spread out of the water.
By Ron
February 21, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
Redneck,Sheep,come on now.Rosie O’Donnel,maybe,but not a sheep.
By RCH
February 21, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
As you know I am not a big John McCain supporter. However the allegations made in the recent days are unmerited and have been investigated over the past years and have been found to be completely false. It is ludicrous to compare McCain and Clinton. One is Innocent and the other we know what the truth is.
By Dusty
February 21, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
Soooo already the Democrats are starting to throw dirt. Seems like they would be smart enough to know that soon someone will be tossing “dirt” on Obama, true or false. It doesn’t seem to matter anymore.
All this reminds me of that old saying “Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.”
Democrats have started the deception.
By Realist
February 21, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
Wow, already the angry left is going after McCain. I dont think using sex is going to work against this guy. He is just too old for anyone to even fathom that or beleive he could be a ladies man. Plus, heck, hes a war hero. All soldiers need a little tail from time to time…..its just part of being in the military. The ladies just ask for it from military men….they want it and love it. Cant blame the man for that.
But what is more telling is how early the leftist media has started trying to bring McCain down. They must be scared of him. They should be because he is going to whip that Osama character six ways to Sunday when they get on a stage together and talk specific issues. Obama doenst have a plan, and in an open debate he cant jsut keep saying the same old lines “fired up, change, lets go”. McCain is going to embarrass Obama…..and its going to be fun to watch!!
By AmVet
February 21, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
Amateurs!
Where is Karl (of the deceitful deferments) Rove when the REAL GOP needs him?
Oh, he “resigned” and now only shows up disgracefully from time to time on the network of his biggest champion - Rupert Murdoch?
Man, this Republican Party is falling to pieces…
By Tobacco is King, Again
February 21, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
Romance aside John, did you have sexual relations with That woman lobbiest, McCain style? Did you exchange the duties of your high government office for sexual favors from a lobbiest? John, as President, do you pledge not to sell the office of President for the sexual favors of any lobbiest?
By Tobacco is King, Again
February 21, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
John, GitaDyke would have done you for free….
By Oh come on people
February 21, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
Uh yeah… isn’t this the same guy who met his NEW wife in Hawaii when he was still married to his former wife. Not to mention the new wife was 17 years his junior when he hooked up with her. So is it feasible that he also had an affair on his second wife? Certainly. Cheating men rarely learn how to stop. Unfortunately for McCain, his track record does not reflect a man of purity and innocence.
By LydiasDad
February 21, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
No Huckabee’s not behind this. The NYTimes is. They’ve been cheering for Obama since this began, and now they’re doing to their best to make sure he beats McCain. It’s irresponsible for the media to get involved in politics, but the corrupt NYTimes always does so. All we can trust is Fox News.
By Adam
February 21, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
This should dispel any concerns about McCain’s age. The guy can rise to the occasion.
By Tobacco is King, Again
February 21, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
Oh, its been delt with…our bad…the selling of a high government office for sexual favors was delt with….Was the crook driven from office, tared and feathered? Oh, by delt with, you mean it was COVERED UP BY THE REPUKE POWERS WHAT BE! Well, the DOG just dug it up, and drug it into 200 million American households…..NOW LET’S GET THE GUYS WHO DID THE COVERING UP FOR MCCLOWN….Maybe Traitor Joe can shed some light on the coverup…..
By Jackie
February 21, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
The NY Times has been investigating these allegations for years and has reportedly been holding back the report because of “lack of information” since December of 2007. Matt Drudge has reported this same story in the past and John McCain has said in press conference, he will address the issue at the appropriate time. It appears this is another cynical ploy by Karl Rove and his band of criminals to discredit someone they have not anointed. I do hope that this story is found to be without merit. I want the Repubs to be at “full strength” in November. When this hip-kicking is administered, there should be no excuses for the drubbing they will take. News report indicates that 15% of the Repubs will not stand for re-election, and counting. Those that will stand before the voters will have a difficult time having a electoral percentage equal to the public approval of Dubya. Is that number 19% and falling?
By Tobacco is King, Again
February 21, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
Recently Hidden Bio of McClowns Lobby girl: A BA in education from a third rate school, yet somehow she has made Partner? What, oh What could be her secret skill? Dusty, do you have any idea? Hmm, eight years ago, she was a 32 year old hot looking skinny blond…..
VICKIISEMAN
VickiIseman, Partner, represents corporate and public clients on issues as diverse as government contracting and regulatory reform. Her experience includes representation of clients before Congress, Federal government agencies and local opinion leaders.
She has extensive experience in telecommunications, representing corporations before the House and Senate Commerce Committees. Her work on the landmark 1992 and 1996 communications bills helped secure cable access for broadcast television stations. Her experience in the communications field includes digital television conversion, satellite regulations and telecommunications ownership provisions.
She has been active in grassroots communications campaigns for clients, building community based support for legislative initiatives. Among others, she participated in the “Keep America Moving” campaign that educated community leaders on the allocation of Federal highway trust funds.
In addition, she has consulted for clients who are interested in government contracting opportunities. She has assisted corporations through the authorization and appropriation process. An active fundraiser, she has organized and participated in many political fundraising events.
A native of Pennsylvania, she holds a B.A. degree in Education from Indiana University in Pennsylvania.
By JP
February 21, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
Wooten, if you had any integrity at all, you’d also be bashing the right wing spinsters who are spewing this garbage about Obama being a “communist sympathizer.” That, my friends and foes, is most positively a “hit job.”
By Truthifier
February 21, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
I don’t think Dusty actually read the New York Times article, since no Democrats are mentioned as having made the allegation.
Dusty’s comment that “Democrats have started the deception” should instead read “Dusty has started the deception, again.”
By The truth
February 21, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
Jackie, W’s approval rating is at 32%. That is 8 points higher than the democrats in congress at 24%. Besides polls are ridiculous and false. How can 700 people account for the ENTIRE country. Nice try.
Anyway, this is notorious NY times. Again, no proof. Remember good ol Dan Rather and his made up story about W and his National Guard record? Same type of deal. When liberals have no proof the make up stuff and run with it. Democrats can’t do anything right so they smear other people. Look at the Clintons. They are king of the smear.
By flip wilson
February 21, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
McCain’s lawyer is Robert Bennett? The same guy Clinton hired when he said “I did not have sex with that woman?” What a coincidence …
By Dusty
February 21, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
Oh the liberals here are commencing their circus.
They are trying to believe that their man Clinton is not the only one to seduce young women or any woman for that matter.
But you libs have a problem. McCain isn’t the Casanova type. Besides being a “good” husband, why go for the “cheap” when you already have “quality”.
By AmVet
February 21, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
I agree that Huckabee’s “base” was probably not behind the McCain story.
I am trying to confirm this, but apparently the Huck women were unavailable as they were advised by the elders to remain inside during last night’s eclipse, lest they become spontaneously pregnant.
And apparently many of those men saw the eclipse as an omen foretelling Huck’s ascension to the throne in Washington, therefore there was no need to slime their opponent.
By Tobacco is King, Again
February 21, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
Would Dusty have helped out the good Senator War Hero for free? Despite her alleged marital vows? Would even ugly old McCancer Face have been able to tolerate being that close to old stinky pants Dirt woman?
By Dusty
February 21, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Truthifier @ 10:18
Are you so stupid you think Republicans make up sordid stories about their own candidates?
You probably do in your ignorance. Go ahead. You ruin any good ethical standing the Democrats EVER had. But that was long long ago.
By flip wilson
February 21, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Lydia’s Dad, you’re wrong. The NYT isn’t shilling for Obabma. They endorsed Clinton.
And speaking of Clinton, the DC lawyer he hired during the “I did not have sex with that woman” story was Robert Bennett … same guy who is speaking for McCain in this article. Coincidence?
By GayGreyGeek
February 21, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
Are you so stupid you think Republicans make up sordid stories about their own candidates?
Dusty - South Carolina, 2000.
‘Nuff said.
By TAFKAH
February 21, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
Dusty you dope,
If it was the Dems, they would have waited until after the convention. Who benefits right now? Only the rent-a-reverend from Arkansas. Last man standing takes the prize.
This story has been percolating since the late 90s. Who do you think was behind it then? Who, until this year, has been the source of the most extreme smears on McCain? It was not the Democrats, dipsh!t Dusty.
This has all the hallmarks of a classic GOP ratf^ck (google some Watergate history for the origins of that term). Somebody in the GOP has buyer’s remorse.
Damn, I bet Romney is kicking himself today.
And what is McCain’s penchant for bottle blondes? Betcha that fringe don’t match the mane.
By Dusty
February 21, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Tobacco is King @10:24
Honey, the only thing you are showing here is your sorry upbringing. But..have fun. The guys in the other cells think you are the greatest.
By time for the harsh but fair truth
February 21, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
This sad inadequate glennprick truly is a real sad anal loser, increasingly along the lines of the anally unfunny nutter aborted foreskin and the unhinged toxic narcissistic carbuncle lance korporal syphilis/inbred redekkk turd combo.
What news item(s) of the day Senor Wooten chooses to discuss in his daily column has BUGGER ALL to do with the Urinal’s far left bollocks on other stories. This noxious analturd glennprick has some kind of obsessive embittered envy of Senor Wooten, hence the lame robotic anti-Wooten bile it pukes up whenever it can.
The NY Slimes is barely fit for house training puppies and lining bird cages, it is a treasonous worthless far left yanKKKee hate rag. ALL JOKING ASIDE … in the admittedly extremely unlikely eventuality that I were to discover say a towelhead arab fascist terror plot that involves a direct bombing or attack on the NY Slimes building I would merely kick back, watch Fox News and pop some corn in the microwave. I wouldn’t lift a finger to stop it, so long as it were just the NY Slimes being targeted. The NY Slimes is deservedly a failing newspaper, its circulation - like the Urinal’s and other treasonous far left hate rags - is hilariously plummeting, which is a damn good thing.
Ann Coulters long ago quip about bombing the NY Slimes still stands as one of her funnier more pragmatic gems.
By Abomi Nation
February 21, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
Congressional approval ratings are low because of the Republicans.
Latest Gallup poll (Feb 18) says 55% of all Americans plan on voting for a Democrat vs 41% for Republicans in the fall election. These numbers are higher for the Dems than they were before the 2006 election.
Nice try.
Dems will still control Congress, and will kick out the obstructionist Republicans.
By LydiasDad
February 21, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
Interesting that the leftwing AJC was more than happy to cover this trash, but completely ignored the story two days ago when Michelle Obama stated that this is the FIRST TIME in her adult life that she’s been proud of her country. A potential first lady isn’t proud of anything her country has done in the last 25 years and that’s not a story? Pathetic. Keep the double standards coming dirtbags.
By TAFKAH
February 21, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
Damn, Dusty you desperate dope.
So McCain is not the Casanove type? Try telling that to his first wife, the one he dumped to marry the heiress Cindy. Granted, he waited a full month after the divorce to re-marry, but the guy was a known philanderer for years.
And as for Cindy, what about her pill addiction and embezzlement of drugs from a medical charity she ran?
Good times.
But yes, sure, it is all Clinton’s fault.
By Dusty
February 21, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
GGGeek and TAFtheRAT,
The 2000 election is over in case you haven’t noticed. This is 2008, the year McCain is elected president. Are you planning to pick up old lies to present as WHAT? Propaganda?
The NYT did not say who gave them their report because they want you to guess while pointing fingers. (But they know.)
Huckabee is not the producer of lovely lady lies either. This is a product of the lib political machine at work. They have been at it ever since Clinton threw you-know-what into the fan.
Relax, guys. You sound so guilty.
By GayGreyGeek
February 21, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
DustBuster - you claimed Republicans wouldn’t smear other Republicans. We demonstrated otherwise.
Sorry your brain can’t handle anything other than Faux News Propaganda.
By The truth
February 21, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
Abomi Nation, Your a troglodyte. Nancy and Harry can’t get anything done because they are morons. Republicans are in the minority because they acted like democrats. America hates democrats because they are communist. Did you read a poll on who will vote democrat? It’s probably because whoever polled asked nothing but democrats. Polls are always skewed towards the democrats. Don’t believe me? Go over to CNN and check out their latest poll. It will heavily favor democrats 5 to 1. You probably believe 911 was a hit job.
By getalife
February 21, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
At least it was a women this time crusty.
McClenis porking a lobbyist and crusty chose another loser.
Too funny.
By The truth
February 21, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
GayGeek, Go back to blowing goats and leave the adults to comment. Morons like you hate Fox News because it actually presents another side instead of the Brian Williams, Chris Matthews, Katy Couric propaganda crap. Fox News in one channel in a sea of liberal garbage. There is a reason those channels are tanking.
By time for the harsh but fair truth
February 21, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
Would Dusty have helped out the good Senator War Hero for free? Despite her alleged marital vows? Would even ugly old McCancer Face have been able to tolerate being that close to old stinky pants Dirt woman?
sick rabid vermin like U have no place in the land of the free … U need to be IMMEDIATELY deported to Damascus or Tehran with a cooler full of pork chops and a rambling psychotic letter in Hebrew threatening to kill various local mohammedan towel head fascist leaders!!
just wittily mirroring back your utterly unprovoked DERANGED HATE!!
By Abomi Nation
February 21, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
LydiasDad, I guess you missed the AJC article and the blog that had 241 replies concerning the Michelle Obama controversy.
Nice try.
By Tobacco is King, Again
February 21, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
Cindy was/is a druggie who stole drugs from her own so call non profit to feed her own habit…McCancer face is a dirty old man, incapable of normal sexual relations, open only to perversions..and subject to Blackmail by foreign powers to protect his dirty little secrets…WE CANNOT AFFORD ANOTHER PRESIDENT OWNED AND OPERATED BY A FOREIGN POWER…MCCLOWN MUST GO TO THE OLD PERVERTS HOME ON WISCONSIN AVE, AKA BETHESDA NAVEL MEDICAL CENTER GERIATRIC AND ALZHEIMERS UNIT
By Shar
February 21, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Actually, the first thought in my mind was that the Republicans did indeed “make up sordid stories about their own candidate” — again.
Remember, it was the Republican Party that submarined Senator McCain’s 2000 campaign with a last minute fabricated smear about his alleged paternity of an illegitimate biracial child. It was done to clear the way for their preferred candidate, who was significantly dumber, less experienced, less well-known and therefore more dependent and easier to manipulatex by Party seniors.
It occurs to me that the Republican establishment is in an analogous situation today. With Mitt Romney formalizing his withdrawal, their choice is between a strong experienced Senator with a record of, and reason for, being difficult to control, and a Governor with no national experience who needs Party support and who appeals to the “base” currently inveighing against the presumptive nominee. With Senator Obama’s nomination looking more and more likely, the Republicans may well calculate that the experience and relative moderate positions emphasized in a McCain/Clinton race could be exchanged for an appeal to the farther fringes of the opposing bases that would characterize an Obama/Huckabee contest. Karl Rove’s effective cultivation of grassroots organization, so far superior to that of the Democrats, would allow the Party to distance itself from Senator McCain’s bipartisan positions that have so completely consumed the right wing ranters and potentially deliver another malleable and dependent President.
Remember, too, that the New York Times endorsed Senator McCain in the state primary, writing a very complimentary editorial on his strengths as a candidate and chief executive. And the article published today never accuses him of having an affair, but rather of imprudence in permitting the appearance of impropriety.
By Dusty
February 21, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
TAFtheRAT,10:44
So everybody that has gotten a divorce is a sordid criminal not fit for public service? That surely would rule out a lot of people such as Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and many more.
Divorce is a sad affair for most couples. I am sorry for those who go through it. Sadder still, you want to incriminate them for political purposes (if they are Republicans).
And, no, I am not divorced.I am most fortunate in having found happiness in one marriage. I wish it were so for all who believe they have found someone they love for life. Wouldn’t it be better for them to work out their private life instead of you invading it?
In other words, you are a big jerk who doesn’t mind lying and can’t MYOB.
By time for the harsh but fair truth
February 21, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
tobacco QUEEN/QUEER
dear oh dear …
the syphilitic old slaggish w hore you still obsessively call Mammy must have caught you at it with your pardon selling perjuring Arkansas rapist blow up doll again this morning … hence ur “better” than rabid unprovoked hate.
Just ask Bwarney Fwank to finally pay you for services rendered - then U can go get that final sex change op and sign up for the San FRan SicKKKo butch drag queen modelling course you’ve been dreeeeeeming of!!
By Joe
February 21, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
McCain’s an adulterer. He cheated on his first wife with the rich and beautiful beer-distributor/bootlegger heiress. Ala Gingrich, McCain’s first wife was recovering from a serious automobile accident at the time.
In 2000, for no apparent reason, he takes a younger version of Cindy McCain with him everywhere he goes while, yet again, sending letters to regulatory agencies seeking favoritism for this lobbyist’s client (Paxson).
More evidence of the serious hypocrisy that is so-called conservatism.
By Dusty
February 21, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
Shar,11:03
Every day you write long pieces defending liberals. Today’s piece brings up a bad lie supposedly set up by Republicans long ago. It seems McCain was not SO insulted that he left the party. No way. He simply moved onward and upward, as a REPUBLICAN.
You excuse the printing of an unproven suggestion. Publishing an ALLEGED AFFAIR is good journalism? NYT has ruined its own reputation by publishing such unproven rumors. You forgot to mention that, didn’t you?
You are simply trying to justify lib bad political behavior.
By RealRep
February 21, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
Why is Mike still in the race?
Conservative Georgians know why -
Do you want a hypocrite, liberal, tax and spend canidate? No.
Do want a real conservative, a family man, a Christian to represent our party? Of course, and that is why Mike never quit.
A vote for John McCain is a vote for Obama.
Huckabee ‘08
By Tobacco is King, Again
February 21, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
John McCain:Unfit to serve as Commander-In-Chief The spoiled son of military privilege got a free ride throughout his military career despite repeated instances of sex scandals and screw-ups …
By Ted Sampley U.S. Veteran Dispatch January 27, 2008
John Sidney McCain III entered the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis, Maryland in 1954. Young McCain wanted to become an admiral. He planned to be the “first son and grandson of four star admirals” to achieve such a distinction. But that was not to be. McCain III possessed none of the innate character and discipline traits that helped mold his father and grandfather into great military leaders.
His father, John S. “Junior” McCain, and grandfather, John S. McCain, Sr., were famous four-star Admirals in the U.S. Navy. His father commanded U.S. forces in Europe before becoming commander of American forces fighting in Vietnam. His grandfather commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945. Both men became highly influential in U.S. Navy operations.
At the Academy, aside being known as a “rowdy, raunchy, underachiever” who resented authority, Cadet McCain became infamous as a leader among his fellow midshipmen for organizing “off-Yard activities” and hard drinking parties. Robert Timberg wrote in his book, The Nightingale’s Song, that “being on liberty with John McCain was like being in a train wreck.”
McCain’s grades were “marginal.” He drew so many demerits for breaking curfew and other discipline issues that he graduated fifth from the bottom of the class of 1958. Despite his low “class standing,” and no doubt because of the influence of his family of famous Admirals, McCain was leap-frogged ahead of more qualified applicants and granted a coveted slot to be trained as a navy pilot.
Good Party Animal - Bad Pilot:
He spent the next two and a half years as a “naval aviator in training” at Naval Air Station Pensacola in Florida and Naval Air Station Corpus Christi in Texas, flying A-1 Skyraiders.
While a pilot trainee, McCain continued to party hard. He drove a Corvette and dated an exotic dancer named “Marie the Flame of Florida.” Timberg wrote that McCain “learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at best good enough to get by. He liked flying, but didn’t love it.”
McCain Lost Five Military Aircraft
McCain, the “below par” pilot, eventually lost 5 military aircraft, the first during a training flight in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while trying to land. The Navy ignored the crash and graduated McCain in 1960.
While deployed in the Mediterranean, the hard partying McCain lost a second aircraft. Timberg described the crash: “Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral.”
Unscathed, McCain returned to Pensacola Station where he was promoted to flight instructor for Naval Air Station Meridian in Mississippi. The airfield at Meridian, McCain Field, was named in honor of McCain’s grandfather.
In 1964 McCain became involved with Carol Shepp, a model from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, he had met at Annapolis. They were married in Philadelphia on July 3, 1965.
Flight instructor McCain lost a third aircraft while flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. Timberg wrote that McCain radioed, “I’ve got a flameout” before ejecting at one thousand feet. McCain parachuted onto a beach moments before his plane slammed into a clump of trees.
The Navy dismissed the crash as “unavoidable” and assigned McCain to the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal in December 1966, which was patrolling the Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean. In Spring 1967, the Forrestal was assigned to join the Operation Rolling Thunder bombing campaign against North Vietnam.
McCain lost his fourth plane on board the Forrestal on July 29, 1967 when a rocket inadvertently slammed into his bomb laden jet. McCain escaped, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors. McCain was transferred from the badly damaged Forrestal to the USS Oriskany. Shortly afterwards, on Oct. 26, 1967, he was shot down and captured by the Vietnamese.
Post-POW Years: Political Ambition and a New, Young, Rich Wife
Upon his release from North Vietnam and return to the United States in 1973, McCain reunited with his wife, Carol, who had been permanently crippled in a car accident while he was a POW.
Still yearning to become an admiral, McCain enrolled in the National War College at Fort McNair in Washington, D.C. and underwent physical therapy in order to fly again. The Navy excused his permanent disabilities and reinstated him to flight status, effectively positioning him for promotion.
Timberg described McCain’s advancement: “in the fall of 1974, McCain was transferred to Jacksonville as the executive officer of Replacement Air Group 174, the long-sought flying billet at last a reality. A few months later, he assumed command of the RAG, which trained pilots and crews for carrier deployments. The assignment was controversial, some calling it favoritism, a sop to the famous son of a famous father and grandfather, since he had not first commanded a squadron, the usual career path.”
While Executive Officer and later as Squadron Commander McCain used his authority to arrange frequent flights that allowed him to carouse with subordinates and “engage in extra-marital affairs.”
This was a clear violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice rules against adultery and fraternization with subordinates. But, as with all his other past behaviors, McCain was never penalized; instead he always got away with his transgressions.
Timberg wrote, “Off duty, usually on routine cross-country flights to Yuma and El Centro, John started carousing and running around with women. To make matters worse, some of the women with whom he was linked by rumor were subordinates … At the time the rumors were so widespread that, true or not, they became part of McCain’s persona, impossible not to take note of.”
In early 1977, Admiral Jim Holloway, Chief of Naval Operations promoted McCain to captain and transferred him from his command position “to Washington as the number-two man in the Navy’s Senate liaison office. McCain was promptly given total control of the office. It wasn’t long before the “fun loving and irreverent” McCain had turned the liaison office into a “late-afternoon gathering spot where senators and staffers, usually from the Armed Services and Foreign Relations committees, would drop in for a drink and the chance to unwind.”
In 1979, while attending a military reception in Hawaii, McCain met and fell in love with Cindy Lou Hensley, 17 years his junior, who was the daughter of James W. Hensley, a wealthy Anheuser-Busch distributor from Phoenix, Arizona. McCain filed for and obtained an uncontested divorce from his wife in Florida on April 2, 1980 and promptly married Cindy on May 17, 1980.
He resigned from the Navy in 1981 and went to work for his father-in-law in Phoenix; where he used the opportunity to make powerful and wealthy friends in Arizona including banker Charles Keating and Duke Tully, the editor-in-chief of the Arizona Republic. Keating was later convicted of fraud, racketeering, and conspiracy and Tully was disgraced for concocting a phony military record of combat in Korea and Vietnam including medals for heroism.
McCain ran for Arizona’s First Congressional District in 1982. McCain won the congressional seat. In 1987 McCain was elected to the Senate.
Disclaimer Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain (VVAJM) provides external links for its readers as a convenience and for informational purposes only
By Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN)
February 21, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
Or if you don’t want to pay for it meet me at the Atlanta airport tonight. I have a lay-over. I’ll do you for free. If your cute I’ll pay you. If you are a cop I’ll pay you double.
Concourse C, bathrooms next to gate 21.
By Bosch
February 21, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
Dusty,
Why go for “cheap?” Did you see this woman’s picture? She’s not cheap, dear.
By TAFKAH
February 21, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
Dusty You made the laughable claim that McCain was “not the Casanova type”. I’d call McCain marrying his mistress one month after his divorce was final a piece of evidence that shows your bullsh!t for what it is.
Wondering, dearest dimbulb dusty, how long it will take you to get your kneepads on for Rev Hackabee once McCain withdraws in tatters?
Truth
Are you seriously calling Brian Williams a liberal? The man has gone out of his way to demonstrate otherwise. You, sir, are a unserious moron, and I mean that in the nicest way possible.
Is Drudge also a liberal? He has been on this story since December.
Face it wingnuts…someone in the GOP machine has decided that McCain has to go.
By Tobacco is King, Again
February 21, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
SISSY BOY ZIONIST SCUM CALLED ” time for the harsh but fair truth” - Pray we never meet, I will take great pleasure in feeding your words back to your slowly dying brain pod….
By Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN)
February 21, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
time for the harsh but fair truth,
Tap, tap, tapity, taptaptap?
By Tobacco is King, Again
February 21, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
Did any of you wing nuts notice that your alleged hero, McCancer Face, crashed five American Navy jets, three in practice, one thru stupidity that killed 138 American sailors, and only one by enemy fire. What a screw-up, yet his daddy kepting giving him promotions and new airplanes to crash. If the vietnamese had not shot him down, and kept him safetly in prison, who knows, might have just managed to sink his own aircraft carrier, killing thousands more america’s. Old Cancerface is too dangerous to be a senator, let along a president. Fire him NOW.
By The truth
February 21, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
TAFKAH, Yes, after Brian Williams had a special dinner with Irans president and said that he was a great man. Yes, he is a liberal fascist. I can not stand McCain but the liberal media will do ANYTHING to get Osama Obama in the white house. Putting a black guy in makes white liberals feel better about themselves. You sir/lady, are the moron.
By carolyn
February 21, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
To Dusty: McCain is not an innocent. He divorced his previous wife, who stood by him while he was a POW, to marry a woman 17 years younger than himself. I understand the previous wife was suffering from cancer when he divorced her. Present wife was stealing drugs to support a habit. Not so MISTER CLEAN is McCain.
By This is the truth
February 21, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
John McCain cheated on his first wife with his current wife. They met in 1979 while McCain was still married to his wife, Carol. He and Carol did not divorce until 1980, when he immediately married his rich pretty mistress, moved to Arizona and, with her father’s money, began his congressional campaign. Sort of puts it all in perspective don’t ya think? When will you silly conservatives learn… your leaders will tell you anything to get your vote…
By TAFKAH
February 21, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
Truth
I see you have absorbed a meme from Jonah Goldberg’s silly little book. Further proof that you are as unserious as you are f^cktarded.
What kind of an idiot writes, “America hates Democrats because they are communist.” Well, that would be your kind of idiot. That is screamingly ignorant on so many levels, I have to think you are pretending to be conservative just to make them look stupid.
Brian Williams has mentioned many times his admiration for Rush Limbaugh and others in the wingnut propoganda machine. He has made a point of wearing his conservatism on his sleeve. I’ll grant you Couric is a lib, though she is ineffectual. But Williams? No way.
Give it up, pal. The Angry White Male schtick is way past the expiration date. Your world is gone, and you are irrelevant. Get used to it.
By JK
February 21, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
Whoa… interesting stuff on McCain! As the child of a military pilot, I’m astounded at the news that a man could crash FIVE planes, kill more than a hundred servicemen as a result, and still get promoted and be allowed to fly more planes!!! Are you kidding? At least Dubya had the decency to not show up for his flight physicals when he was cokin’ up… And you thought HE was a bad guy! Looks like another one of those kids who was born on third base, thinks he hit a triple, and is demanding a ticker-tape parade for winning the game single-handedly…. Aren’t we tired of a—holes like this yet?
By Former Republican
February 21, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
The Republican Party is falling apart. What has happened to this once grand party that it has become so bad that people would prefer a black man to anyone in the Republican race?
By the truth
February 21, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this
TAFKAH, nice language caveman. I have a brain and can figure liberals out pretty quickly. Democrats are on the side of muslim radicals and everyone else who hate this country. They have total disdain for the military and you do too. My world is dandy. The only reason Brian Williams has admiration for Rush is because Rush pulls in 20 million plus listeners a week. He admires his ability to pull an audience like that. He wants the amount of viewers Rush gets. Go back to your trailer and play with yourself.
By BUSHWACKER
February 21, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this
So what if he did???? It did not matter to Hillary that Bill is the biggest w******* this side of Nevada.
It’s a non story!!!
By Mack
February 21, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
McCain as a philanderer? Did you get a look at her? Even if he didn’t crank her, he should say he did. What a babe. If this story is true, then I have totally underestimated McCain. If this daliance is true then he’s got my vote.
The lucky skunk!
By Shark Sammich
February 21, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
JK, you exaggerate. I believe McCain only crashed three planes.
By Realist
February 21, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
Please JK. Do you truly think there is anything any different on the left side of the isle? Over there you have drug dealers like Barack and alcholic-pill addicts like the Kennedys, all wanting to tell US how to live our lives while they are out crashing into barriers at 2am zonked on liquor and ambien, or worse driving into lakes killing young women.
Im not taking up for drug use or bad behavior from anyone, but lets be real here. The left has as much if not more of this stuff than anyone, yet they are the ones alwasy pointing the hypocritical finger!! Makes me want to puke !!
By Dusty
February 21, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
Well, the liberals are really pouring out the sludge today. I hope they furnish drain cleaner after today’s deluge. No lie is too big for them to pass to the public.
Fortunately, Americans withdraw from malodorous material. Dems should give up their motto of “SWELL the SMELL” by any means. It makes Americans sick of the whole Dem party and their rubbish reports.
Bye now. See ya later, maybe..
By Tom
February 21, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
Thou shalt not bear false witness….. YOu wonder why people won’t vote for a bible-thumping hypocrite?
By Shark Sammich
February 21, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
Realist, post a link to any credible source for your allegation about Obama’s “drug dealing” or STFU.
By getalife
February 21, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
The Times have ruined Rove’s plan
The gop never hated McLover. Rove was punking you like Obama is punking you.
Damn, America is gillible. Never, ever trust a politician. When will you learn?
Geez.
By Truthifier
February 21, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Dusty, you still were wrong about Democrats making the allegation. You can attack, as usual, but please try to arm yourself with some facts. You just make yourself look ridiculous with your blindly partisan rants. And for the record, I couldn’t care less if McCain had an affair. That’s between him and his wife.
By GayGreyGeek
February 21, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
The word of the day: PROEJCTION
The example of the day: DustBuster.
By Moralpolice...puhleeze
February 21, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
Really, people….If JFK ran today, would he win? Never mind all the affairs he had…did it deter him from his duties? Plus, I wonder why we never heard more about Hillary Clinton having an affair with Huma Abedin, her aide? Personally, as a firm believer of the separation of church and state, I don’t care who you “do” behind your bedroom door…..as long as you do the best for this country. I’m not a Republican or a Democrat. I hold no loyalties to any party.
By Play that Funky Music Whiteboy
February 21, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
I will never forgive Clinton. there was so much Hollywood tail out there for him and what did he do? A fat intern - cause she was convenient.
That’s like being able to eat at any restaurant I want to and pick Burger King because it’s the closest to my trailer. “Hmm, should I go to Morton’s (Sharon Stone circa 1994) or get me a Whopper?”
I could forgive McCain for this one, she’s pretty hot from the pics I’ve seen - and we all know how good it is when the want/need something from you.
By Play that Funky Music Whiteboy
February 21, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
I will never forgive Clinton. there was so much Hollywood tail out there for him and what did he do? A fat intern - cause she was convenient.
That’s like being able to eat at any restaurant I want to and pick Burger King because it’s the closest to my trailer. “Hmm, should I go to Morton’s (Sharon Stone circa 1994) or get me a Whopper?”
I could forgive McCain for this one, she’s pretty hot from the pics I’ve seen - and we all know how good it is when the want/need something from you.
By TAFKAH
February 21, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
A Riddle.
Name one play that Deadpecker McCain never saw to completion.
The Iseman Cometh. (geddit?)
By Glenn
February 21, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
JP @ 10:15,
The Commie-sympathizer dirt on Obama is indeed the “hit job” you describe. Provided that it’s untrue.
Tell us: is it untrue?
Because if it’s true, then it is by far the most important story in this presidential campaign, wouldn’t you agree?
By the truth
February 21, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
GayGreyGeek, You need a speak and spell.
Word of the day: DICTIONARY.
By Jackie
February 21, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
This McCain foolishness is just a deflection technique. John McCain has voiced his support for Iraq and has said that he will continue the war for the next 100 years if required. We are spending more than $38 Million dollars PER MINUTE in Iraq. What are we getting for our money? If we are training the Iraqs, as has been reported for the last 2-3 years, either our trainers are totally incompetent, or, the Iraq soldiers are the biggest collective group of idiots known to mankind. This political tactic is a scheme of Karl Rove to try and gain the “sympathy” factor for McCain. IT WILL NOT WORK!!!!
By Shar
February 21, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
Tobacco @ 11:23, in all fairness you need to acknowledge that the author of the long article you posted, Ted Sampley, has a long and unlovely record as a co-founder of the Swift Boaters. His primary passion is the belief that the US has abandoned a large number of POWs and MIAs in Vietnam, where he served, and he has not hesitated to write and publicize outright lies exploiting POW/MIAs and their families. His long antipathy for John McCain stems from McCain’s refusal to take a confrontational stance versus Vietnam on this issue, and finds treasonous McCain’s (and John Kerry’s) recognition of the current government of Vietnam. He is known for his media stunts, for writing screeds and his conviction and jail time stemming from an unprovoked assault on one of McCain’s Senate staffers. He is not a source on which to base a reasoned assessment of anything, particularly John McCain.
By GayGreyGeek
February 21, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
As Much “The Truth” As Faux News Is “Fair” - Ignore the message, attack the messenger.
There, there, that’s a good little Republican…
By Wallyword
February 21, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
“McCancer Face” - 10:24am, by Tobacco breath
That’s nice. Real nice. No hate or mean spiritedness there at all from the lipstick of a pig. Don’t you just love the loony left? Such nice folks, aren’t they? I wish to be just like them.
So what’s the big story here from the New York Slimes? So a lobbyist shows up at a McCain fund raiser. Yeah like THAT has never happened before. So McCain flew on a jet owned by a professional client of the lobbyist. Another first I’m SO sure. All of this - EIGHT YEARS AGO.
Once again the New York Slimes serves up a dirty dishrag story in the hopes it will stink up the kitchen. This is the best they can do? Even Time, that bastion and puppet of the far right – worse than Faux News - asked what the stink bomb is all about. [sarcasm off]
Remember, the New York Slimes didn’t dig up the Clinton-Lewinski scandal. It took the world’s first pajama journalist, Matt Drudge, to have the gonads to do that. The Slimes has failed to expose Obama’s Communist-Marxist ties as well. Then there is the matter of that “church” he is a member of and what they preach. These are just a few things to keep in mind about the New York Slimes’ agenda.
Once again the New York Slimes shows why it has reduced itself from a credible and objective journalistic outlet during the past 25 years to nothing more than a grocery store isle can of expired SPAM worthy of no more space than the back alley dumpster. (It really started going down during Reagan’s tenure – Joe Klein & Time DNC Co. apparently never got over the nationwide Carter beat down).
Besides, who cares what McCain did/does in his private life? Clinton and his minions taught us all that all relationships, legit or not, are private matters and to not be addressed – or dedressed, if you will. And if you lie under oath about it? Big f’ing deal.
Anyone who thinks the New York Slimes give a hoot in hell whether Obama or Hillary wins the election, no matter which candidate they supposedly “endorsed”, is an idiot. They are going to unload on Republicans - and McCain.
By the truth
February 21, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
GayGreyGeek, Attack? It is you miss, who attacked me by calling me names. Also, I’m libertarian. Big difference. Good day to you Keith Olberqueer.
By too funny
February 21, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Keith Olberqueer.
LMAO!!!
By Glenn
February 21, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
Shar,
Regarding “McCain’s refusal to take a confrontational stance versus Vietnam” on the issue of POWs and MIAs, Mr. Sampley must’ve been disappointed by the part of McCain’s and Kerry’s joint fact-finding visit to that country.
But then Sampley would be upset about the wrong part of that visit, the part in which McCain joined Kerry in saying that the the dispute over captured U.S. personnel had been settled to his satisfaction. The part in which McCain buried the hatchet with the Vietnamese, and honored their patriotism and valor during the war.
It must’ve been that part of the trip that upset Sampley, because presumably he was not upset by the part in which McCain, having said all that, acknowledged that he’d “always hate the Gooks”.
Whether McCain simply had lost his ball bearings on that occasion, was not reported.
By time to Bushwhack ALL liberal surrender monkey scum
February 21, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
Watching the deranged yellowbellied child molesting leftist afterbirth tobacco QUEEN/QUEER and its chimpanzee rentboy multi ids on here on here getting uppity about THEIR PSYCHOTIC HATE being wittily mirrored back to them is too much fun.
These bi-polar hypocritical flaccid leftist termites can gleefully puke up psychotic hate about McCain’s cancer and other unhinged. deranged lies about McCain but yet cannot take being wittily abused back!!
Hence the pinKKKo COCKroaches indulge in pansypussylike bedwetting bleating!! Along with the usual anally obsessive homosexual projection!!
Obviously their/its oedipus complexes are now dominating what passes for their uber sick and twisted worthless lives.
Leave your testtube generated MAMMY alone you putrid perverts and go jump under a speeding MARTA train!!
By the truth
February 21, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
Wallyword, DAMN STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!! Said the same thing, but in a much shorter paragraph, and I got called a Faux News propagandist. Liberals are all the same. Marxist fascists. Go back to your coffee shops and complain about how America is bad. Defend radical islam and trash talk the troops. Liberals suck!!!
By Anne
February 21, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
There is no such thing as fair and balanced news any more, from any station cable, network, internet, newspaper or radio. They are all biased and slanted. We no longer receive impartial and relevant news. It’s all celebs, who’s doing who, he said, she said….et al. It’s atrocious.
By Oh Please!
February 21, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
Truthifier,
@12:18
{{{{{You can attack, as usual, but please try to arm yourself with some facts. You just make yourself look ridiculous with your blindly partisan rants}}}}}
What? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! That’s a good one!
Dusty, arm herself with facts? Dusty, care if she makes herself look ridiculous? Dusty, you mean Dusty, post anything but an anti-liberal, Democrat rant?
Oh, Truthifier, if Dusty ever armed herself with facts, that would be the day hell froze over. If she cared about her credibility and didn’t make herself look ridiculous, what fun would this blog be?
By AmVet
February 21, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
Too funny.
The GOP is getting shellacked because they acted like Democrats?
Now I understand the old phrase about reality having a liberal bent!
By Ron
February 21, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
Anyone focusing on Obama might want to take a look at The Global Poverty Act he’s currently sponsoring.That should answer a few questions.By the by folks,the off position of a light switch is used as a beauty treatment by us older folk.With proper use of it anything is possible.
By the truth
February 21, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this
Everyone, this is how dumb Obama Osama supporters are. I just read an article about supporters applauding Obama as he blew his nose. WTF? Is this the kind of president we are getting? We’ll be fighting islamofascist and he’ll be fighting the war on colds.
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/evenblowinghisnoseobama_ge.html
By Kemmet Aziz from Philly
February 21, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
Didnt John McCain aka John McLoven cheat on his first wife, he then divorced her and then married his current wife who is also like 20 years younger than him? Sounds like the old dog is up to his old tricks. Its funny how the dudes who stand for all this “high and mighty” moral standing always get caught with there pants down.
By the truth
February 21, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
AmVet, Hello, glad you are here. Love sparring with you. Anyway, the gop spent money like drunkin sailors and people got fed up with it. The new democrats that were voted in ran as conservative democrats. That is where the comment of GOP actin like dems came from.
By Kemmet Aziz from Philly
February 21, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
Didnt John McCain aka John McLoven cheat on his first wife, he then divorced her and then married his current wife who is also like 20 years younger than him? Sounds like the old dog is up to his old tricks. Its funny how the dudes who stand for all this “high and mighty” moral standing always get caught with there pants down.