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Conservatives splitting?

John McCain beats Hillary Clinton; Barack Obama beats him. That’s the findings of a new nationwide Zogby Interactive poll conducted Feb. 8-11.

The surprising number, though, remains Hillary’s problem with men and McCain’s with his own party. Against either Obama or McCain, she wins less than 80 percent of Democrats — though that’s better than McCain does among Republicans. Against Hillary, he pulls 72 percent of Republicans. Ouch. Though they’d be foolish to do it, some conservatives are beginning to talk of aligning themselves with the Constitution Party, which is on 16 ballots and expects to be on 40. It nominates a presidential candidate in April.

Looking to the general election, it is hard to imagine McCain winning if, indeed, any number of conservatives split off or sit it out. McCain draws independents, and would draw more than Hillary, but he loses them to Obama, 46-33, according to Zogby.

For the sport, let’s run the generic Democratic race against McCain, regardless of whether the nominee is Hillary or Obama. Bill Clinton says that with Hillary, it would be exceedingly civil. Perhaps. But from cartoonists, liberal commentators and the moveon.org crowd, we can certainly expect:

  1. Repeated reminders that he’s old, really old, older than any first-term President in American history. One instance where he refers to Shirley Franklin as Shirley Chisholm, the now deceased congresswoman who ran for President in 1972, or makes some similar mistake and for the rest of the campaign he’s treated as approaching senility.

  2. He’s a crank. Well, maybe he is. But his outbursts and ill-temper will become the basis for the charge that he’s too unstable to be President.

  3. Iraq. To the moveon.org Democrats, he’s a dangerous militarist determined to occupy the world for the next 50 to 100 years. War, war, war.

No question McCain and conservatives need to make peace. He may not win with them, but he certainly can’t win without them.

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By Redneck Convert

February 14, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this

Well, I see the librul Democrats won’t leave the godly Sen. Craig alone. They wrote a letter that scolded him. All he done was set in a bathroom stall and accidently tap the shoe of somebody and reach under the stall to get some paper. You can’t do nothing these days if you are a godly Republican.

Just look how they treated the godly Sen. Vitter for liking diapers and Rep. Foley for writing a few notes to boys. The libruls won’t quit till every one of our Right-thinking people are in jail. Just watch. Our godly Rep. Ney is about to get out of prison and the libruls will gang up to put him back in. If this keeps up this nation will just be run by a bunch of immoral libruls.

Well, Wooten may be Right. Maybe us god-fearing conservatives need to break off from the Republicans. They done shut us out and give us this librul McCain. They don’t respeck nothing we done. People point to a few trillion dollars of debt and no new jobs and shipping jobs overseas and 40 million without health care and the recession and nothing done about the illegals and the war against the towel-heads and tax cuts for the rich and act like we done wrong. Picky, picky, picky.

Anyway, like I said before, one of these days McCain is going to show up with his walker and his false teeth missing and maybe in a bathrobe and the libruls will scream bloody murder about how old he is. I say you got to respeck your elders even if I can’t respeck or even like McCain for his librul thinking.

So its just a bad time to be a god-fearing, Right-wing Republican. Maybe us conservatives need to vote for this Hillary woman or Osama just to give the librul Republicans a taste of what it is like without us. Anyhow, I don’t care much anymore. They took the Republican party away from us rednecks and if the country goes to the dogs, so be it. Have a good day all you librul Republicans, you done ruint your country.

By getalife

February 14, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

McMaverick flipped flopped on torure yesterday voting for the CIA to torture but the bill failed. Today, the AG had to admit it is illegal.

BTW Jim, the zogby poll is not credible and their results have been done wrong this cycle.

Survey USA is good poll that has been very accurate.

By OneForTheRoad

February 14, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

These Democrats better keep things civil. If not, we’ll throw all the smoked mullet we’ve got at them. That’ll teach them. They’ll never rid themselves of the smell.

Now, as far as the war effort goes, the latest word is that Uncle Sam wants you so bad that he’s offering $40000 towards a house in exchange for just 5 years. Sounds like a deal, doesn’t it? I think I would be asking for 40 virgins and at least 40 days and 40 nights in advance on that deal.

Who to vote for though. This Constitution Party sounds most interesting. Why the sudden thoughts of deja vu? Hmmmm. Third party drawing Libertarians and other dissatisfied voters from the Republican candidate thus leading to the election of the Clinton Gang. Eight years of lawlessness will lead to the resurrection of a Texas Ranger — Not! Norris is just too old to kick butt any more.

By Jeff

February 14, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten:

The problem conservatives have with John McCain is simple:

He AINT one!

He wants the war. He wants to usurp the Constitution. He wants open borders. He wants to continue deficit spending. He wants to continue to expand the already bloated federal government.

NONE of which a true conservative wants!

By TW

February 14, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will make a landmark visit to Baghdad on March 2 for talks with Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki

That’s great - nice of our soldiers and their families to have paved the way for him…brilliant foreign policy.

By Political Foreskin

February 14, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

I thought the writer’s strike was over.

By John

February 14, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

At least McCain had the courage to speak out against Obama about substance and specifics. Someone needs to hold Obama in check about all these promises that he is making and how he plans to do them. Anybody can make promises. We don’t need 4 to 8 more years of promises and incompetence. This country needs help not an experiment.

By MW

February 14, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

You’d think after so many, many mess-ups that righteous conservatives would recognize the error of their ways and do a 180. How’s it feel to support who might possibly be the worst President in history? This mess we are in is due to arrogance of the Republican party and their double standards, lies and malfeasance. OBAMA in ‘O8!

By MW

February 14, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

You’d think after so many, many mess-ups that righteous conservatives would recognize the error of their ways and do a 180. How’s it feel to support who might possibly be the worst President in history? This mess we are in is due to arrogance of the Republican party and their double standards, lies and malfeasance. OBAMA in ‘O8!

By MW

February 14, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

You’d think after so many, many mess-ups that righteous conservatives would recognize the error of their ways and do a 180. How’s it feel to support who might possibly be the worst President in history? This mess we are in is due to arrogance of the Republican party and their double standards, lies and malfeasance. OBAMA in ‘O8!

By Art

February 14, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

“Conservatives” going over to the Constitution Party (LMAO) would just be icing on the cake. The purpose of 08 for true Republicans is to kill the right wing nut cases and talibaptists off for good. Thanks to GWB their reign of terror is over forever. True Republicans know that majority sentiment in this country lies to the left of these xenophobic nativist morons. Let them go. Let them drive the last nail in their own coffin with their little hissy fits and temper tantrums. Never again will 20% of this country populated by so much human garbage ever hold the rest of us hostage again. Bye bye wingthugs.

By songbird

February 14, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

MW - press enter only once please.

To all, if you want to see the results of all the polls by every organization check out the website realclearpolitics.com. They summarize all of the national polls. What they show is McCain beats Hillary by a very small margin and Obama beats McCain consistently.

By OneForTheRoad

February 14, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

I just cannot help but look back to Bush’s run for president and wonder. Why would he select Cheney for V.P.? Did he select Cheney? Cheney, as old and frail as he is, was never thought of as a potential presidential candidate. There was clearly no planning ahead in that regard. So, was he Bush’s meal ticket to getting elected and who really paid the price of admission and why? Was it just for the shot at the oil or were there many reasons? Who’s likeness was trampled on every day thanks to Saddam? What would Gore have done after 9/11 if he were in office? This story has more twists and turns than any Texas assassin’s bullet ever did. Those secrets are safe for now though. I’m sure they’ve been bought and paid for.

Move over Clancy and Coulter and make room for more authors. There are plenty of good topics to write about these days.

By songbird

February 14, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

MW - press enter only once please.

To all, if you want to see the results of all the polls by every organization check out the website realclearpolitics.com. They summarize all of the national polls. What they show is McCain beats Hillary by a very small margin and Obama beats McCain consistently.

By AmericanConstitutionalist

February 14, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

John “McAmnesty” is an RINO fraud masquerading as a conservative. The problem with the GOP is that they’re controlled by the exact same Globalist Elite who puppeteer the DNC. The Republican’ts & Demoncrats are two sides of the same coin. A few years ago a left the GOP as they were hijacked by Machiavellian Neocons like the “Skull&Bones” Bushes, William Kristol, etc. I’m an Independent, but I see eye-to-eye with the Constitution Party’s platform. I’ll either vote for the CP candidate or write-in Dr.Ron Paul. McManiac, Hildabeast & Obuma are ALL Globalist shills.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd341.htm

By AmVet

February 14, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

I disagree with Mr. Wooten’s premise.

McCain cannot win with the enthusiastic support of these supposed conservatives. To court them excessively or worse, to name a horrific “conservative” Veep choice, ensures him the loss of the only people who can get him to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave - the moderates, independents and fed-up Democrats and fed-up Republicans. (i.e. most of us)

Obama, though fighting for the same crowd to some extent, will not convince, nor convert, the people who have historically voted in the biggest numbers - the above 35 year old crowd - who is not into the latest fads. Musically, culturally or politically.

The election, in spite of the uber-pundits proclamations otherwise, is now McCain’s to lose.

By TW

February 14, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

How dare congress call Roger Clemens a liar!

Haven’t they learned by now that white, arrogant men from Texas never lie?

Besides, is the game of baseball really more sacred than the life of an American Soldier?

By GaVoter

February 14, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Ron Paul

A true conservative and the only conservative choice for president.

By The Truth

February 14, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

The current situation is exactly what happens when republicans act like democrats. When conservatives pick a candidate just because he has an R by his name what you really get is a democrat. I find it funny that all the liberals are gleeful over the possibility of winning the white house. What they don’t realize is that if Barry screws up, and he will screw up, there will be a tremendous backlash. Remember 1994? Say we get bombed again. That is a very high possibility. Barry will probably cower like Ray Nagin after Katrina. I’d rather a dem get blamed for screwing up America then a true conservative. The dems run the house and senate and have the lowest approval rating in the history of America. Just wait until Barry wins it. Also, to all the godless liberals on this blog trashing Christians. There will come a day when you will be begging us for help.

By Ron

February 14, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

A Constitution Party for conservatives would be nice.No one would have to worry about a Republican president for about a thousand years.I hope they do it.Go Newt!The rest of the country could join the;Ain’t This Great Party.That would last about 8 years and end in a quagmire of corruption that would make Republicans green with envy.Then change would be the buzzword again.This insanity goes on and on.

By Copyleft

February 14, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Wooten’s clever this time. By proposing various ways “the evil Democrats” might criticize McCain, he encourages Republican posters to leap to Johnny’s defense.

Well, go to it, right-wingers: Defend your new champion! Point out how wonderful McCain is!

Maybe you’ll even convince yourselves. (Hee, hee!)

By Art

February 14, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

AmVet Jim is just weakly trying to assign relevance to these right wing nut jobs when they no longer have any. They are the kiss of death to the Republican party nationally. And this is Georgia AmVet. This state has become just one bubba eruption after another. I’m still waiting for his outrage over a Georgia Speaker of the House that trades influence for sex, the lobbyist that traded sex for influence, and the lobbying firm that pimped their employee for political gain. I’ll give 10 to 1 odds that all of them are tied to Republican interest.

By Real Conservatism

February 14, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

I for one will never vote for Mcamnesty!! The way the republican party treats true conservatives is apparent. I think of the expression, “why buy the cow, when the milk is free.”

Why do anything about gay marriage when we’ll vote for them anyway?

why do anything about illegals when we’ll vote for them anyway?

why be fiscally conservative when we’ll vote for them anyway?

Six years bush and rinos held all three branches of government and failed to accomplish any of the campaign promises used to get the conservative vote to get them elected.

they only tell us they love us when they’re F@#cking us!!

NOT THIS TIME! ENJOY 4 YEARS OF OBAMA AS PUNISHMENT FOR LYING AND DECEIVING US!!

By John

February 14, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

songbird

Press the enter key one time. Polls move around all the time. The present polls does not mean that Obama will beat McCain in the general election. Hillary was leading in all the polls just a few weeks ago.

By Fred

February 14, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

On my way to work this morning I saw 4 good ole boys in Cobb County standing around a hole watching a black guy and 2 Mexicans digging. Those guys just had to be right wingers. To me that was the perfect example of how that trash thinks things ought to be.

By Eye's wide open

February 14, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

I think its great that conservatives are finally opening their eyes and realizing that the Republican leadership doesn’t give a squat about concertive issues. They pander to conseratives around election time for their votes but as soon as the elections are over they drop all intrest in conservative issues and continue their war on the middle class. The Republican party leadership only cares about big business and the money it gets from it, nothing else.

By Shar

February 14, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Good Morning. As it happens, I received a robo call last night asking hypothetical questions about my voting preferences “if the Presidential election was held today” (as well as on “how to honor Vince Dooley most appropriately”, which did not include my preference of ignoring him the way he ignored academic requirements and the future wellbeing of the “students” he coached).

As I gave my answers I reflected on how meaningless they were. Campaign conduct, information and platforms yet to be released, world and domestic events will all profoundly affect my weighing of the candidates and the choices I make in November.

With the exception of the hardcore faithful, who do not decide elections, these poll results are just plain silly. Suggesting campaign smear themes is a smear in itself.

This topic is highly premature. I’d much prefer Mr. Wooten’s “inside” perspective on legislation moving under the Gold Dome, the ability of the two chambers and the Governor’s office to work together more effectively than they did last year, or perhaps even whether Glenn Richardson’s speakership will survive the astounding arrogance and bullying he has displayed most egregiously in the last month. That seems more actionable and timely than speculating on November’s choices in February.

Remember, at this time last year Senator Clinton had already been annointed and Senator McCain was heading for obsolescence and irrelevance. What a difference a few months make.

By Eye's wide open

February 14, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

I think its great that conservatives are finally opening their eyes and realizing that the Republican leadership doesn’t give a squat about concertive issues. They pander to conseratives around election time for their votes but as soon as the elections are over they drop all intrest in conservative issues and continue their war on the middle class. The Republican party leadership only cares about big business and the money it gets from it, nothing else.

By Glenn

February 14, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

  • DAY 13: No Child Left Unsold

Well Jim, I guess those are the things that the greens would say. After all, those things already are being said.

But isn’t the Elephant in camera what the Conservatives have to say about McCain? That’s a simpler story line, of course: the man’s an inveterate liar.

Conservative Republicans constitute the bloc in this election that will not put up with a liar.

By AmVet

February 14, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

Art, to me one of the more amazing aspects of all of this, and something that is perhaps lost in the current events, is that less than four years ago, 62 million people (AGAIN!) willingly voted for George W Bush and Dick Cheney, arguably the worst administration in American history! Granted Kerry was a really bad opponent, but WTF?!

But are we to believe that 75% of these “faithful” and perhaps gullible voters have had some sort of epiphany in regards to seeing these supposed conservatives as the incompetent frauds that they truly are?

Even given the fickle nature of the American voter, I am somewhat doubtful.

There must still be plenty of Americans, particularly in the Deep South and other non-enlightened outposts, who still buy into the now mainly repudiated fundamental premises of neo-conservatism.

That SO many of the most cocksure and pig-headed have cut and run from OVERTLY supporting it now, does not dissuade me from continually exposing it for what it is and what it has wrought, nor surprises me.

By TruthSerum

February 14, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

There is one reason and one reason only that McCain is running away with this thing. Mainstream Americans totally rebelled against the right wing terrorists that have destroyed freedom and liberty in this country. Had this country given those fascists 8 more years we would be back to Jim Crow, witch trials, and inquisitions. The right wing is a bigger threat to our freedom then Osama bin Laden could ever be.

By Dusty is a Mad Cow

February 14, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Many of us would luv to see Dusty split: Drawn and Quartered.

By Dusty

February 14, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

What a bunch of yellow bellied sapsuckers! You couldn’t support the man that has protected our country and rescued two others. George W. Bush.

Now you can’t support a man who served his country well and will watch for the best interests of this country. McCain!

McCain has experience both in military and government. He has shown integrity by voting for what he thinks is right, not which way the polls are showing or the wind is blowing.

Constitutionalists my foot! It has nothing to do with the Constitution. It has to do with featherbrains who can’t support anyone who MIGHT not get a vote.

Obama is as directed as a drunken driver in high school. But you want to lay the election in his lap. McCain is a man of goals and direction. But some of you who never learned as you grew older so you think McCain did not either. Another sad mistake. He KNOWS.

So run around naming new parties and look for someone who might make a good speech. To heck with the government. Oh ye of little faith! You ruin us.

By Curious Observer

February 14, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Conservative Republicans constitute the bloc in this election that will not put up with a liar.

Ho hum, another day of right-wingers’ moaning about their loss of soverignty in the Republican party.

Not put up with a liar, huh? Don’t I recall someone’s saying that the United States does not torture? Let’s see now, it might have been the President. And don’t I recall a subsequent statement by the AG’s office and the CIA that waterboarding is “probably” torture?

Glenn, try seeing the world without your head up your azz. Now that you don’t have to pimp for the California legislature, you can gaze upon the world without that constraint. Besides, you don’t want that crick in your neck, do you?

By OneForTheRoad

February 14, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

I’m so excited about this economic stimulus that I may just forget about the election and the stumping and what not. Anyone that would vote to let me pay them Tuesday for a rebate today is showing how they will strong-arm those that would oppose helping those of us in need of stimulant for our iron-poor blood. And, they can put that in their pipe and smoke it, Toot Toot.

By AmVet

February 14, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

OneForTheRoad, yes the “fiscal conservatives” in this administration have demonstrated once again how they are nearly drowning in their still potent batch of Konservative KoolAid.

Not since the days of trickle down have I seen such obvious pandering and lunacy cloaked as governance.

Though I’m admittedly no economist, does anybody out there REALLY believe this “stimulus package” is going to stimulate anything? Besides “conservative” fealty?

What desperation when our “leaders” want to spend themselves out of debt.

No wonder a political sea change is at hand in this country…

By Dusty

February 14, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Curious Observer,10:44

Do you ever post anything that isn’t either vulgar or subversive? Is that how you plan for liberals to win the election?

Won’t work, buddy. You clowns make Republicans look like the only decent people in the country. Are you really as vulgar and subversive as you sound every day?

I’m leaving now so do some name jacking and throw in the insults. It is done here every day by liberals.

By Dusty is a Mad Cow

February 14, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

OneForTheRoad - Dusty is so excited she is fingering her own but

By Ron

February 14, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Am Vet, You nailed it Kerry was a bad choice.Worse than Bush.Imagine.

By The Truth

February 14, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

To all the Libs blogging. You guys think Bush is bad? Look at Bubba and Jimma and tell me those two have not lost their minds. Bubba and the nut cracker are going apes#$#@ over losing the nomination. And they will lose. Jimma was THE WORST president of the last 35 years. Bubba has no idea what his legacy is other than rape and lying to the grand jury. What a party the democrats are!

Oh, thought this was great! Your moonbat savior Cindy Sheehan is in Egypt celebrating with Islamist!

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UPMN401&show_article=1

By OneForTheRoad

February 14, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Come on now. Let’s all fes up. How many people voted for “the lesser of the evils” in the last N presidential elections? Where N is defined as the total number of presidential elections you’ve voted in minus 1. (What can I say. The first time you vote is kinda special. It has meaning. It’s a matter of principle. Then you learn what politicians really are.)

By TW

February 14, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

The Truth - you highlight another of my favorite things about the new age rightwing - the inablity to look in the mirror. Standing knee deep in American Soldier blood, you point your finger at the Dems. Keep posting, the office thinks you’re hysterical:-)

By AmVet

February 14, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

As a Nader voter in the past two elections (Man! talk about asking for abuse!), I agreed with him on numerous ideas. The most significant perhaps, was that the shameless and bumbling Democratic Party could have easily won both in 2000 and 2004 had they run even a decent candidate.

They could not, did not and the ensuing 8 year debacle unfolded. And they blamed him!!!

And that they did they best imitation of the Gingrich GOP as regards to doing everything they possibly could, ethical or not, to hold onto their own power, demonstrated that both political parties put their organizations before country.

I will not soon forget that. And I wish beyond with there was another viable, palatable third party candidate to endorse.

By getalife

February 14, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

Man, C-Span has been great this week:

Contempt moves forward

Spine in da House.

By John

February 14, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

Conservatives want to split to a new party now after croosing over to vote for Obama to get rid of Hillary only to let the true conservative nominees slip through the fingers. Now reality is sinking in and conservatives are realizing that they may have just fool heartly put Obama in the White House. Now they don’t have nowhere to go to. All three leading candidates are Liberal and Obama is the most Liberal. This is why the conservatives now wants to create the Constitution Party.

By The Truth

February 14, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

TW, as in office you mean mail room, right? So, should I say that Roosevelt should get the blame for 500,000 or our troops killed. This whole “Bush Lied Soldiers Died” bit is getting old. Our troops SIGNED UP VOLUNTARILY for service. New Age Rightwing? That’s new to me. I’m conservative. Libs like you seem to always categorize everyone in to groups instead of individuals. Your true RED communist colors are showing true. While you’re at it, why don’t you stop by and pick up my trash and take it to the dumpster where you belong.

By ar

February 14, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

“Very awkward moment in the Hillary Clinton campaign today. I guess Hillary told her staff to call Democrats with money, and they called Barack Obama.” – Jay Leno

By ar

February 14, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

“Very awkward moment in the Hillary Clinton campaign today. I guess Hillary told her staff to call Democrats with money, and they called Barack Obama.” – Jay Leno

By Mark Reed

February 14, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Jim:

Are you the Jim Wooten who was a Sigma Pi at UGA in the 60’s?

Mark Reed

By Glenn

February 14, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

C.O., you’re hung up on pushing the Ol’ Boy xenophobe button with your California mantra. “Y’all’s not from ‘round heah, are ya?” You’re barking up the wrong coon tree, man.

You think I tout “the great state of California”, and yet I have touted only its hard-earned expertise in forestry and fire protection, and otherwise have held it up as nothing other than a warning to Georgians of how bad things can get when liberal ideas are taken to ground. California has not been a great state since circa 1965, and it is now a frightful and even tragic mess. I love that state, as I do this one, but I am very glad and grateful to be here. I fought and lost. So what? I’m happy.

There was no need to argue to the man and engage in a character attack to make your quite valid point that one reason—-possibly the preeminent reason—-why Conservatives are now so sick of lies is because they, like everyone else, were done wrong by the Bush Administration. Gingrich and Buchanan have been saying for seven years that this would happen. Noonan’s saying it now.

Why act as though you’ve just discovered it?

Don’t you realize that it goes over like an Edsel for you greens to advise us variously about what the real cause of death was, or about how we “need” to get over it and throw in with McCain, or about how the GOP “needs” to become more like you and less like the bogeymen you imagine Conservatives to be?

How unutterably ridiculous. Physician, heal thyself.

By TW

February 14, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

The Truth -

Libs like you seem to always categorize everyone in to groups instead of individuals.

Isn’t that like an oxymoron, or something? As I said before - you are a hoot! Thanks for the lunchtime entertainment.

On a serious note, does your mom know you’re playing with her computer?

By Ace

February 14, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

there is nothing more un-patriotic, un-Christian and hurts our children than supporting someone just because you voted for them, you don’t want anyone to know you made a mistake and are possibly human or they are a member of your chosen political party, when you know they are hurting this country. to support Dick Cheney and George Bush is to support hurting this country. it doesn’t matter how much you want to believe in something or how much you hate someone that doesn’t automatically agree with you, like those darn liberals, the point is we should be doing all we can to get this country back on the right track. and supporting big business, the oil companies in particular and supporting illegal immigration for those corporation and supporting sending manufacturing plants to other countries is hurting this country! even if you say you are doing it for God it doesn’t make it right. and can we once and for all put that extremely ignorant myth about trickle down to bed now? that is the dumbest theory probably in world history. thank God it’s an election year or that idiot jerk we have as a president wouldn’t even admit that the economy that has been tanking for over six years is in bad shape. you wouldn’t elect that dope as your student body president! we have to get someone in the white house that actually cares about Americans. whatever everyone does, please don’t elect another Republican, my family and I can not handle it financially. and sure I must be living beyond my means, another stupid theory, get real people and start caring about America and not some lying false-Christian politician. we are at a crossroads and if we don’t right the ship soon we’ll just be another crumbled empire in history.

By seems Dusty has a new name

February 14, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

TW,

The Truth is most likely Dusty. I guess the hag is tired of all the insults and this is her very bad attempt at starting over. The problem is, she can’t hide her hate.

By John McCain

February 14, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

My Friends, they say I’m too old to be president. I will remind you, My Friends, that I’m old enough to have been friends with Herbert Hoover, and it’s never a bad idea to know people who understand the workings of government.

My Friends, they also say I have a temper that’s too hot to allow me near the nuclear football. Well, My Friends, I do sometimes lose my temper, but I always calm down shortly afterward. I would be calm well before the missiles ever landed.

My Friends, I need the help of the conservatives in our party more than ever. In reaching out the hand of friendship, My Friends, I promise that no illegal immigrant will receive amnesty before first signing up for a driver’s license. So vote for me, My Friends, or else the president will be far to the left of me.

By The Truth

February 14, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

TW, So, now you’ve resorted to bring up my mom. If you are at work, shouldn’t you actually be working? I have the day off. Yes, this blog is entertaining and I enjoy laughing at people like you. Does your dad know that I’m playing with your mom?

By AmericanConstitutionalist

February 14, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

Dusty, gimme a break! You’re either a wanna-be agent provacatuer or the biggest Neocon’d Bushbot I’ve ever seen. King Jorge is as phony a “conservative” as it gets. “Skull&Bones” Bush is a BIG government, open-borders/amnesty, pro North American Union, anti Bill of Rights Machiavellian…just like that fraud “McManiac”. And NO…I’m not some a “pinko librul”…because the Left/Right paradigm is a total smokescreen propagated by those who truly call the shots (from behind the scenes). The DNC & GOP “leadership” are all puppets controlled by the Globalist Elite. However, there is indeed a solution, because The answer to 1984 is 1776!

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd341.htm

By Inner City Theotis

February 14, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

you Republicans complain about me and my welfare and then turn around and support the two biggest entitlement programs that we probably will ever know…Illegal Immigration and the Iraq War. Republicans aren’t just hypocrites their dumber than a bag rocks too! hey Republicans…God says you should vote for Teddy Kennedy…now you have to do it cause I said God said so….numbskulls!

By Glenn

February 14, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

TW,

Methinks you jest. New age conservatives knee-deep in blood, pointing a hypocrite’s finger at Democrats? What?

First of all, what you guys just cannot or will not allow, for some baffling reason but presumably for a reason, is that the conservatives at issue are conservative; they are conservators of tradition—-rather the farthest thing from anything “new” or “neo”. But by all means, misconstrue them if you will.

As for their beeing uniquely knee-deep in blood, such that they have no standing to accuse Democrats, that’s so twisted it could be an encomium upon the death of Richard Nixon. Knee-deep in blood is Normandy. Knee-deep in blood is Iwo. It’s Antietam, Okinawa, the Chosin Abattoir.

The blood spilled in Iraq of late is blood on all our hands, and on those of our allies and, most especially, on those of the late dictator and his suite. Only Congresswoman Lee, a Democrat, voted against.

So who is the hypocrite now?

By The Truth

February 14, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

seems Dusty has a new name, I’m a dude. I guess I can call you a transsexual since you are calling me a she. What a moron. Like I say, Liberalism is disease of the mind. Maybe I can start calling you Rupaul or maybe just Neville Chamberlain. What a douchebag you are.

By seems Dusty has a new name

February 14, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

AmericanConstitutionalist,

The answer is “B” biggest neo-con’d Bushbot. Dusty is too stupid to be a wanna-be agent provacatuer.

By Glenn

February 14, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

Theotis:

An “entitlement” is a public benefit in which the recipient has a possessory interest. Are you saying that our personnel in uniform are fighting in Iraq for their selfish property interests?

I thee. Theotis, Cialis.

By Disgusted

February 14, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Dusty no sooner waddles out of the house than you guys start attacking her. At long last, sirs, have you no shame?

By Jackie

February 14, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

News reports indicate that Dubya said he is going to veto the waterboarding bill coming out of the Senate. He does not think it is torture.

By Jesus

February 14, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

please please everyone listen up it’s very important. i want everyone to know that george bush does not speak for me. really i’m a great guy and that bumbling fool had tarnished my reputation. i can’t wait to smite it’s gonna so good. the nly thing nice i can say about him and i know this has got to chap the hides of those programmed conservatives is that he is the first guy ever to make a black man and a woman viable presidential candidates. you knew who you were electing and you did it anyway. for shooting the finger at me and this country you deserve to reap everything you have sown.

By The Truth

February 14, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

I just found this on yahoo. Behold! The new Indiana Jones movie trailer. WOOO HOOOO!!!!!!

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/indianajones.html;_ylt=AsY7qv8MSH6wl3g1GC6bw55fVXcA

By Apocalypse

February 14, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Former GOP Senator to Endorse Obama

By MICHELLE R. SMITH – 40 minutes ago

PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) — Former Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee is endorsing Democratic Sen. Barack Obama.

The Rhode Islander told The Associated Press he is endorsing Obama in a conference call Thursday. Chafee left the Republican Party last year and became an independent.

He was one of the Senate’s most liberal Republicans before he lost his seat in 2006 to Democrat Sheldon Whitehouse.

But despite losing, he remains popular in the Ocean State. His approval ratings on election day were 63 percent.

Rhode Island holds its primary March 4.

By Coward Alert!

February 14, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

nobody who loves America would make this stupid war drag out just long enough to get out of office turn it over to someone else and then blame them for this stupid war in a stupid place for not being a success. but tht’s what republicans will do. even if it means all the soldiers that die this year didn’t have to die but were sent to slaughter just to continue the BS of ‘the surge is working’ so george can run out the clock and then brain dead republicans can say this war is a failure because of democrats and liberals or anybody else but themselves. the people that truly created this mess for all the wrong reasons. only a coward blames someone else for their own mistakes. watch for these idiots to blame others for the failure of this war as soon as someone does the right thing and gets us out of this mess. the only people that should be fighting in Iraq right now are the people who voted for george in 2004 and their sons and daughters that are of military age. let’s see how long this is a just war when something like that happens. republicans will cut and run faster than reagan from lebanon. by the way if reagan was such a Christian why did he and the real president nancy rely so heavily on astrology. why didn’t you republicans burn those witches at the stake for their heresy?

By Caroline

February 14, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Why does a conservative Republican have to be the party candidate for president? Conservatives are no more special, no more valid than there moderate bretheren. I am sick and tired of conservatives whining, bullying tactics in the Republican party. Republicanism isn’t all about them and they don’t have a monopoly on what’s good for the party or the nation. Get over yourself and recognize that you don’t have an inalienable right to run the country according to your narrow views.

By Theo

February 14, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

glenn you are an idiot if you can’t see all the money given to illegal immigrants and ungrateful iraqis that they haven’t earned. goa ahead and keep trying to defend the indefensible. go ahead and continue to support people who lie and are hurting this country just because they have an American flag lapel pin. time to replace the battery for the chip in your head. and thanks for supporting our enemies. they love the mess you and george have created. now get off your lazy duff and go find Osama!

By Ron

February 14, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

As long as waterboarding isn’t used on me it isn’t torture.Doesn’t hurt me a bit.It’s nicer than beheading and a lot less permanent.I see by the news that Saudi Arabia has condemned a woman to death for witchcraft.Very enlightened,those Saudis.They wouldn’t waterboard anyone.

By Einstein

February 14, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

never ever support somebody that believes in blind faith! “another human told me it was true so it must be” hope is good but faith means the ability to override common sense for no good reason at all.

By OneForTheRoad

February 14, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

The Truth,

That “rebate” should just about cover the price of admission, popcorn, drinks, and gas for the trip to the theater to see Indy.

Let’s get out there and give it to the economy. While you’re at it, Just say “Charge It”. Your local bank will be most grateful for your help in boosting their economic outlook — that’s stock options and bonuses for you laypersons.

By Apocalypse

February 14, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

McCain Adviser Won’t Fight Obama

February 13, 2008 6:48 PM

ABC News’ Teddy Davis Reports: On Wednesday, a top adviser to John McCain said more definitively than he has in the past that he will step down from the Arizona senator’s presidential campaign if the presumed GOP nominee faces Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in the general election.

“I would simply be uncomfortable being in a campaign that would be inevitably attacking Barack Obama,” said McCain adviser Mark McKinnon in an interview with NPR’s “All Things Considered.” “I think it would be uncomfortable for me, and I think it would be bad for the McCain campaign.”

McKinnon, who was a Democrat before serving as President Bush’s ad maker in 2000 and 2004, said that he plans to be behind McCain “100 percent” no matter who the Democratic nominee is. He explained, however, that if the Democrats nominate Obama, he will be supporting McCain “from the sidelines.”

While saying that he does not agree with Obama on every issue, McKinnon gushed about the Illinois Democrat.

“I met Barack Obama, I read his book, I like him a great deal,” said McKinnon. “I disagree with him on very fundamental issues. But I think, as I said, I think it would a great race for the country.”

By Glenn

February 14, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Caroline,

Thank you for the fresh breeze. Good question. Let me speak for myself, as I am one of those whom you characterized.

Unlike the Republican Samuel Clemens, I’ll “vote for whatever forked thing the Party put up, even if it do not strictly resemble a man”, but I simply don’t want a devious SOB in the Oval Office again. I daresay lots of conservative folk are holdouts for the same reason.

Some of the cant put out there under the rubric of Conservatism sure is narrow-minded, I agree. In general, though, Conservatism is the natural friend of latitudinarianism because it, least of all political theories save Libertarianism, imposes the new or chooses it for anyone.

I’ll probably hold my nose and vote for the lying SOB just because he’ll scare our most dangerous enemies whereas the two Democratic candidates would only embolden them. I respect those who hold out on Constitutional grounds, as in McCain one finds much that is constitutionally disturbing, but that happens not to be my main reason for holding out and hoping for a chance to make a principled stand, no matter how much lawful “bullying” it takes.

Even Churchill would have shaken the tail of Joe Stalin had the PM concluded that it would’ve helped to defeat Hitler. The Democrats are not Nazis, of course, but they too are dangerous, by dint of deadly callowness.

By Ace

February 14, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

rebate checks: mortgaging our children’s future to predatory lenders(China) to bribe and manipulate the easily led. instead of treating the symptoms why don’t we try to cure the cause for this bad economy and that means looking at corporate America to really fix the problem. but no that would mean trying to do the right thing and Jesus would never have any of that. right republicans?

By MrLiberty

February 14, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

There isn’t a split among conservatives. There are conservatives - they support Ron Paul, and then there is the rest of the republican party. Some are socialists, some are fascists, some are neoconservatives (basically warmongering socialists). The republican party still has a chance. They could dump insane McCain and Huckleberry and nominate Paul. With support, backing, tv time, and the like, there is no way he could lose to either. They are both prowar, socialist, big government liberals who know nothing about economics except how to make things worse.

Time is running out. Only the future of america depends on it. No big.

By Teddy

February 14, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

dems would embolden our enemies what the hell do you think bush and cheney have done? being partisan is not more important than being American!

By seems Dusty has a new name

February 14, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Truth (ha ha),

Dusty’s new persona is rather nasty I must say.

I guess I can call you a transsexual since you are calling me a she.

What? I call you a she and you call me a transexual. Nope that makes no sense, whatsoever, just like your stupid posts that reflect your stupid logic, such as

liberalism is a disease of the mind

While I guess that being a supporter of a fascist regime is somehow in your small brain, not some kind of mental defect. Uh, huh, that makes absolutely no sense.

Nice try though. Logic is wasted on the mentally challenged like yourself.

By Ace

February 14, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

if you are a Republican and you are against healthcare for all Americans, against taking care of our own. but you’re for supporting illegal immigrants and that worthless child we adopted Iraq. but healthcare for Americans is socialism! well anybody that thinks we shouldn’t take care of our own because it’s that dreaded socialism needs to immediately go take their child out of public schools because that’s socialism too. bu that’s different isn’t it? people that don’t even have kids should be paying taxes for your kid to go to school, huh? once again hypocrites shamelessly hiding behind God, children and the flag.

By The truth

February 14, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

seems Dusty has a new name, thanks. I’m glad someone like you thinks I’m stupid. That proves my point of Liberals doing the name calling when they can’t back up their claims. Wow, mentally challenged, huh? Maybe if you should take that c$%^ out of your arse.

By JC

February 14, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

you ever noticed that you can have a political discussion with a Republican and at any time during that discussion someone can ring a bell and replace that Republican with any other Republican and the discussion can go on seemlessly? this country was not intended to be a place where everyone thinks the same.

By Glenn

February 14, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Teddy,

I take it you’re a Kennedy, not a Roosevelt. For one thing, to my knowledge no one in the Roosevelt line ever called himself “Teddy”.

TR The Second ran a third-party campaign against the GOP and the Democratic Party. TR3, Ted, was, as both an officer and a civilian public servant, a man of conspicuous probity and unambiguous intent. The same cannot truthfully be said of McCain as Senator.

TR4, alas, endorses McCain, whom he already recognizes as the fait accompli nominee of his party.

What’s more, it took another Bush to clean up the mess made by a Clinton’s gymnastic efforts to embolden our enemies.

By Keepin' It Real

February 14, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Tonight on tthe National Geographic Channel: “Six Degrees Could Change The World.” Narrated by who else, a Hollywood nincompoop moonbat named Alec Ball-less. Be there - or don’t be a moonbat.

Here’s reality, moonbats. The global warming fascists - mostly on the kook left - must be so confused these days.

By KFC Bucket

February 14, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

You ever notice that in these blogs there are more democrats than republicans? It’s because republicans all have jobs and democrats are sitting in coffee shops thinking up something to protest. Most liberals are mooching off their parents because they can’t take care of themselves. Also, more liberals have std’s than conservatives. That’s because liberals are easy and don’t give a crap about morals.

By ralphie

February 14, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

Jane Fonda knocks off the “c” word on live TV via the ‘Today’ show. What class these extremist libs have. Don’t you want these nutter marxists teaching your children? http://www.tmz.com/2008/02/14/jane-fonda-i-wasnt-into-cu-t/

By Glenn

February 14, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

JC,

Ever notice that you cannot have a conversation with a Liberal without realizing that the person is either base or idiotic?

Ever notice that ten thousand Frenchmen can be wrong, but that ten thousand American Conservatives cannot be?

Ever notice that Andy Rooney hasn’t worked for a living for more than forty years?

By Realist

February 14, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

To all the Ron Paul supporters:

Give it up. He is done. Over. Kaput!

That is all.

VOTE JOHN MCCAIN

The only remainging logical choice for America.

By getalife

February 14, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Hillary is going to win and here is the plan

Brilliant!

By Glenn

February 14, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

Mr. Spock for President!

By The truth

February 14, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

getalife, The only way Hitlary can win is if she buys all the votes from the delegates. That’s how Democrats win. They cheat.

By It's awfully close

February 14, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

I can see why some folks believe The Truth is, in fact, Dusty. Sure reads like the old nut.

By getalife

February 14, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

McMaverick flipped flopped on torture and lost.

Has no clue about the economy and wants more wars and stay in Iraq for 100 years. Probably a draft.

You hate your country to make an insane man that was tortured for years President?

Wow, that is pitiful.

By Craig

February 14, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

Jim I doubt that you intended it as humor, but your last three comments are funny. You worry that we will say 1 - he’s old! 2 - he’s a crank! and 3 - he wants us to stay in Iraq for another hundred years!

Here’s your problem - all of those are true. Do you think us Dems should stand around and fail to speak the truth, all the while your side is sending around “Obama/Osama is a muslim” emails?

Sorry, don’t think so.

By time for a reality check

February 14, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

Epoxy Lips aka Apoca Lips

February 10, 2008 Patti Solis Doyle announced that she is stepping down as the campaign manager for the presidential campaign of Sen. Hilary Clinton, D-N.Y., ABC News has learned that this afternoon. Solis Doyle, 42, said she would remain as a senior adviser to the campaign.

Sometimes you just gotta get rid of the trash in these campaigns.

By The truth

February 14, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

It’s awfully close, I can see why you’re a closet homosexual.

By getalife

February 14, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Wow, the gop house just cut and ran from the Constitution and the rule of law by walking out of the House.

By Ace Mulholland

February 14, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Wait a minute, Slick. Hold it right there. You think WHO is sending out that s** on Obama?

By Jackie

February 14, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

It seems the extremists on the right side of the political spectrum are in total disarray. They continue to call everyone that does not agree with them socialists and cowards. I wonder if they think that the education, medicine, military, roads, bridges, water, sewer, police, fire protection, public communication, government agencies, et all, is not rooted in a socialist philosophy. Many contributing to an entity(taxes paid) for the good of all. Consideration is not given to how much is paid, just the fact that those who have more contribute more. Wonder what we will do if we privatize(services for a fee) all those things we depend upon for daily functions? Could ONE conservative give us directions as to solving this problem?

By getserious

February 14, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Kristen says:

“I am totally for a Million Man March for Hillary in March—-let’s get someone to plan it!”

Now, what were we saying about Democrats leaving the lifting to others?

And my, what a brilliant, innovative plan Clintons has! Pour money into the states with the most delegates, and then claim that the resulting support in those states is due to people “responding” to your record of “helping” to provide “solutions” to yet unsolved “problems” your focus groups have framed for you.

What sheer genius!

It’s the Stupid, stupid!

By getalife

February 14, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Jackie, I would love to go out with you. We have so much in common. I get off of work at 5:30. My last pizza should be delivered by then.

By Jackie

February 14, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

It seems that Dubya is trying to clean up the mess he made. Turns out, the rebates that he pushed was to make up for the sub-prime mess that was caused by his use of the Office of Federal Currency to fight the keep the states from allowing the banks to issue these sub-prime loans.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/13/AR2008021302783.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&sub=AR

By AmVet

February 14, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

It is undeniable that based on the somewhat shocking results to date, an entirely new paradigm exists in America’s next national election. Republican and Democratic voters alike are looking their respective party devils right in the eye.

One of the many well-founded knocks against this “conservative” GOP has been its reluctance, if not a dogmatic intransigence, to move away from those discounted ideas of the past, much less blaze a brave new American future. It is as if they took the very worst of Reagan, threw in a little Newt, added a healthy dose of mythology and then added some Neanderthal Bushisms to make this putrid neo-conservative stew.

If they keep it up, it is certain political suicide. And that they are still digging their heels in to such an extent, to many, including myself, explains why they are clearly on the ropes now.

But if it’s self-righteous self-immolation that the lunatic fringe wants, just keep bringing up topics like the “liberal lies” behind man-induced global warming.

It just drives the millions of people who see through that nonsense, left AND right, away in droves, doncha know.

By Copyleft

February 14, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

That’s the legacy of the neoconservative push over the past two decades. Remember, it had several key elements:

  • Aggressively pursue a global-intervention agenda to establish an American Empire (check).

  • Declare a constant state of emergency, with the country constantly on the brink of total destruction (check).

  • Allow no middle ground. Paint everything in black-and-white, good-or-evil terms. (“With us or against us” ring any bells?)

  • Insist that everyone who disagrees, or even questions, your agenda is a “cowardly commie socialist traitor” who should be mocked or killed, to avoid having to respond to their points intelligently.

  • Tragically, America is sick of their hateful, hysterical whining. Their grip on power has slipped, and they’re panicking. Which is ENORMOUS fun to watch.

    Wheee! It’s great to be a REAL American, and watch the far right self-destruct!

    By Jackie

    February 14, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

    @getalife

    Thanks, but, no thanks. I am a male and do not roll down the same path you follow.

    By getalife

    February 14, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

    Jackie, I’m sorry, I thought you were a female. Still, I like to swing both ways.

    By Glenn

    February 14, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

    Speaking of getting serious, Jackie’s doing it.

    Hey, Jackie. Here’s my take on that. First, if all of us on the Right are doing it, then we’re not in disarray. Second, if it’s true that those on the Left are generally cowards and Socialists, then we’re not in disarray.

    I’ve slung the word “coward” pretty liberally, as it were. But I don’t think that you’re one or that Hillary is one, to name two counter examples. Much beyond that I wouldn’t venture to generalize except to say that Code Pink, college Democrats, Kosbots, the MoveOn groupies and the “thought leaders” and “opinion makers” of the Democratic affiliation are all, without a single, sole exception, cowards down to their pampered colons.

    “Socialists”, though, that’s another thing. And no, public works and in-common services are not rooted in socialist “philosophy” (theory). They existed for millennia before Karl and Friedrich announced that Dialectical Materialism came and spoke to them in the night and revealed unto them the shape of history. Public works are rooted in the Ancient Civilizations, common social services in the Christian tradition (vide the derivations of the words “hospice”, “hospital”, “hospitality”, “care”, “commune”, “communal”.) Socialism is primarily a question of control over the means of production. (See BarackObama.com)

    That being said, Obama. The man has seen to it that you and I can have not much more than an amoebic sense of who he is and what he stands for rather than against. My little brain amoeba doesn’t yet whisper “coward” but it does shout Socialist. That’s the first time I’ve called anyone that in a very long time, mainly because I’ve seen people shot for being labeled Socialists, and I didn’t like the sight.

    But look at the guy’s platform. Gadzooks, Jackie! It IS Socialism in our time, on these shores! And I have no problem at all with Socialism being submitted (again) to the American People. I mean, mixed economies and fuzzed-up gray categories and all that so helpful nuanzzzzz, but we’re talking chicken-chokin’ Neo-Marxism here.

    The Scandinavians enjoy it. The French and Italians too, from time to time. OK. But when they run a Socialist they run her as a Socialist, not as the equivalent of a U.S. Democrat! I haven’t yet asked, but I suspect that my European friends would find it amusing that one of our U.S. Senators would feel the need to run on a Socialist platform while spending his campaign hours in legerdemain.

    Look over there! No, over there! There it goes, over thataway!

    In this sense Obama himself, the crypto-Socialist, is the biggest lie of the campaign season. The poor professoriat has been burning incense for decades in hope of a stand-up Socialist with a golden tongue, and now they’ve got one and he calls himself something else. Poor things. It was bad enough for the tweedheads when the Wall came down…

    By Teddy

    February 14, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

    what messes have either Bush cleaned up? these guys have the Minus Touch. and how bout this mortgage crap that’s hurt so many people and helped a few that were already rich. remember the savings and loan debacle from the 80’s? the Bushes were involved in that too. well go figure. I believe it was Jeb that was in the middle of that one. Bush that tough cowboy from texas tht Vicente Fox laughed at because he was afraid horses.the problem with Republicans are that they are Republicans first and Americans second. they would rather have someone continue to destroy this country than to admit fault. that’s not patriotism. be a Republican if you don’t believe in science, if you’re afraid of everything and if you out-source all of your thinking. but I like how the Hillary comment got ya! because now you’re having to come back with Bush is cleaning up messes. that guy probably has trouble wiping his own behind. I can’t see any good that Republicans have done and they’ve had 8 years, and not one good thing accomplished. but they have managed to divide this once great country because to them it’s more important to win by 51% by any means necessary even if it means hurting this country. now go listen to your propaganda and believe what some lying sinful politician will tell you and then we all get our taxes raised and amnesty for illegals and secret meetings with our enemies the Iranians, deals with drug cartels to fund illegal wars like your Saint Reagan did. then run the first time there’s any trouble like he did in Lebanon and call yourself a big man when you invade some little backwater like Grenada. now what you need to do is call me a liberal cause it will make you feel better. but I’m sorry to say that unlike you I won’t paint myself into a corner. to polarize your self is to limit decision making. America needs to come way ahead of politicians and stupid political parties. and who would I vote for right now? the best person currently available, Obama. because I know I couldn’t vote for Hillary because Republicans would do everything to prevent her from being successful. even if it meant that that stragey and behavior would hurt America. so it’s Obama. I don’t really care for Hillary but I do know that she has nothing deserving of the hatred I’ve seen towards her. especially from people who want to call themselves followers of the great Jesus Christ.

    By Darrel

    February 14, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

    I see where two Atlanta state representatives (Democrats, of course!) want to pass a law making it “PROPER” to use school taxes for private redevelopment projects. My question is when and how does this school tax money get repaid for the use of school needs? Why are the schools always squealing for more money? Is it because their money is siphoned off for private projects. It’s about type government quit financing private enterprise!

    By Honorably Discharged Vet

    February 14, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

    bet ol’ glenn has never really done anything for his country. he’ll say ‘i pay my taxes!’ the ones he keeps trying to get out of and keeps accepting money to cover our deficit from other countries. i bet the only thing he has ever done for his country is put an american flag bumper sticker on his car. or maybe some of those cute yellow ribbons. what a patriot!

    By TW

    February 14, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

    Glenn - great words from you as usual. Takes me a minute to adjust from ‘The Truth’s’ comedy.

    Anyhow - The initial invasion, a mistake (don’t even come back at that), killed roughly ten thousand. When, Glenn, does a nation have the right to take the lives of another nation’s civilians?

    I would like to believe we are better than savages like bin laden…

    By zoinks!

    February 14, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

    You hate your country to make an insane man that was tortured for years President? Wow, that is pitiful.

    Not half as pitiful as to the fact that the Democratic party solution is even WORSE. AGAIN.

    I couldn’t vote for Hillary because Republicans would do everything to prevent her from being successful.

    And exactly what in low h-e-l-l do you think DEMOCRATS have been doing to BUSH for the last eight years???? Pot, meet kettle.

    By The truth

    February 14, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

    TW, Great! You’re back from your nap. Did you remember to have your mom change your diaper? Hey, I have the answer to your question. When does a country have the right to take other people’s lives in other nations? Well, let’s see. The lives I’ve seen taken are those of AL QAEDA. Are those the innocent people you speak of? So, now you’ve just called our troops savages. Nice, I can only hope that when Obama brings the war to our shores you will be right there asking the same questions.

    By Obama is a Light Weight

    February 14, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

    Jim, take heart about ole Johnny Mac and his conservative credibility. McCain’s patriotic “street cred” is well-established and will bolster him nicely after the conventions. McCain’s not Regan or Gingrich but, more importantly, he’s not Clinton or O’bama either. The Amercian people will eventually dictate McCain’s agenda after the general and he’ll be glad to compromise on conservative issues to get elected. It’s the American way.

    Meanwhile, back at Dem HQ on Fantasy Island there’s a certain nervousness afoot -

    After the conventions, America will see that wispy looking, female-limbed, light-weight caricature of a liberal girly-man named O’bama & he’s going to get juxtaposed on some ad against some real political men like McCain or Putin or Chavez and then it’s going to register to the American people -

    This is the guy that’s going to protect my family? It’s McCain by a nose at the finish line in Novemeber.

    By Jackie

    February 14, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

    @Glenn,

    If you would like, use MediCare/MediAid as an example of socialism. Even folks on the right say that it is the best medical system in the world. Social Security is another example. How does the programs stack up?

    By Oh yeah

    February 14, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

    The truth is definitely Dusty. Same stuff, different name.

    By Dusty

    February 14, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

    Poor ol’ Copy Left,2:11

    He is a “copy” all right. Straight out the DNC propaganda manual.

    America is not establishing “empires” unless you want to call our action in Kosovo one. We still have some troops there. Is that your empire? The Clinton Empire?

    We are fighting to leave Iraq in good shape. Is that your latest anti-Bush effort? Insult the troops while they are fighting? That’s “lib support for the troops”, the way that cut-n-runners do it.

    So, you don’t like Homeland Security because you KNOW that terrorists are not going to attack again. How do you know? Are you one of them?

    Middle ground? You mean the folks that can’t make up their minds ‘til the polls tell them how to vote? Or those too afraid to vote for a strong man? Or those who will vote for the “man in the mist” Obama of the invisible values? Yes, those in the middle are sinking fast.

    PS.. For those who have been posting for me and using my ID while I was gone, thanks a lot. But you better stop before I tell your parole officer.

    By Jackie

    February 14, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

    It appears another Bush buddy is going to get a pardon. The lawyer for the trainer of Roger Clemens states his belief that Bush will pardon Roger Clemens, even though 3 people have signed affidavits stating that he used HGH and steroids. The Repubs in the House are upset that he was not treated as an American hero. They were further upset when the a House committee voted to issue contempt of Congress citations against Harriet Mierers and Andrew Card. This Bush conundrum is about to boil over before the November elections. Hang on to your seats!

    By Glenn

    February 14, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

    TW,

    You’re asking a moral question about the justice of war. I and many millions of Americans adhere to moral constructs in which it can be rightful to “take” the lives of another nation’s civilians. Bart Bernstein is one scholar who argues prominently otherwise. (He scratched the original Enola Gay exhibit at the Smithsonian, for example.) I’ve always disagreed.

    Look, we may indeed be savages, but we are not “savages like bin laden”. Fuzzing up those categories is not the way to go; ask the Israelis.

    Honorably Discharged Vet,

    Thank you for your service. I am at yours. Also, you lost your bet, but I’ll double your money and throw in a beer sometime.

    Darrel,

    That particular scam is unfortunately more complicated than you understand it to be. The school moneys are prospective increases in school revenues owing to the proposed redevelopment, which is expected to be a tax-generator. The projected quickening of the school revenue stream, over and above the present pace of that flow, is plugged into a formula that gives the authorities a dollar figure (sort of) that they can use to guarantee the bonding for the redevepment project. In the meantime, the existing school stream continues as is.

    That’s roughly the way in which they would like to “use school taxes to pay for private redevelopment projects.” If all goes well, the schools are unaffected. The Georgia Supreme Court reads the state Constitution as permitting no such thing. If the legislators want to pass a law, it will have to be a bill to place a proposed Constitutional Amendment on the ballot for voter approval.

    Hope this helps, though it’s a complicated business and I didn’t take the trouble to polish it smooth.

    By Ron

    February 14, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

    Obama is simply a mouth that spouts Ted Sorensens words.He can soud like Jack,or King or anyone he wants to .There is no real Obama.

    By Teddy

    February 14, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

    I have not seen the kind of 8 balling and hatefulness from the Democratic party as I have seen from the so-called followers of Jesus in the Republican party. mainly because the biggest problem with the Democrats is their inactivity. their lack of real direction. but they have not been the people who have been so rigid and unable to compromise for the good of the country. but come on really, if you were in elementary school with George Bush, you’d have to pick on him, hell the moron brings most of it on himself. but it kills me that Democrats are described as the big bad boogeyman that hurts everything and then they’re wimps too? how do that work out? who’s afraid of a wimpy boogeyman? Republicans. and people did work with George for a while, 9/11 made it politically impossible not to for a while. even the devil herself Hillary Clinton was forced into voting for an unjust war just to save face and keep from being called names. one reason I don’t like her, that was the time when she should have made a stand. but didn’t. and then that tough cowboy Bush, blaming 9/11 on somebody else when he was on guard duty. that shows a lack of resposibility, lack of integrity and a lack of character. a man is man when it’s toughest to be a man and he doesn’t except a difficult job like world leader if he’s planning on blaming others when he was tasked to take care of this country from the time he was elected. I hope all our presidents are successful, even the ones I don’t like, because when they fail, our country fails too. America is far more important than party allegiance. all that blind devotion prevents us from admitting to faults and then correcting problems.

    By Glenn

    February 14, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

    Teddy,

    I respect your earnestness and largely agree with your views. Though this isn’t the place to respond to them point by point, I’d like to point out that the Conservative holdouts are trying precisely to demonstrate that they are NOT Republicans first, and I’m one of them.

    You mention so many allegiances. My own are pretty straightforward; in descending order: Christian, American, Conservative, Educator, Republican.

    I simply cannot be as certain as you are that McCain is not one of the “lying, sinful politicians”. For one thing, I’m pretty sure that he’s a sinner like me; if you yourself are not a sinner, then permit me to be the first in your new following. I’m sure others will follow.

    Also, were I you I would not underestimate the venality of Mr. Clinton and his wife.

    By Jackie

    February 14, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

    @Dusty,

    The USA has over 700 military bases around the world that are deemed official. We have more than 200 than are not part of the “official” count. Wonder why we need that many bases and that many troops throughout the world when we are not at war with the rest of the world. I think you are old enough to remember Afghanistan and Ronald Reagan? Afghanistan was once considered the bread-basket of Asia for the wheat and other grains they grew. They were the ones that fed the Soviet Union for several years. Reagan convinced them to fight the Soviets. The Afghans were “encouraged” by someone to develop a secret drug trade to pay for the war without our having to have our hands soiled and now they are the world’s leading narco-producer. The next time you go to Washington, DC, trying going to the Saudi embassy, or, just walking down the street and taking a picture of the building and see what happens to you?

    By Glenn

    February 14, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

    Jackie, let me cut to that chase. The closest thing this country ever came to outright socialism was the first G.I. Bill. It was one of the best things that ever happened here. I just want Socialists to run as Socialists, just as I wanted a Mormon to run as a Mormon, a Libertarian to run as a Libertarian and, in the case of Mike Huckabee, a Democrat to run as a Democrat—-and preferably for city council.

    By Dusty

    February 14, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

    Late Memo to Jim Wooten,

    There used to be one real Republican on the AJC staff. What happened to him?

    If you keep reporting all the “doubtful downers” presented by Democrats, you will have to change to “Thinking Left”. Then the AJC will be 100% lefties. That’s sad. I, myself, have no intention to drift downhill.

    By OneForTheRoad

    February 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

    I have been really disappointed with several state and local elected officials. I have a real problem when I see these people try to proclaim themselves as being worthy of holding public office by making statements about family values, etc. They won’t be getting my vote.

    By Copyleft

    February 14, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

    Dusty: Not to worry, Dusty… you’ve got nowhere to go but up!

    By Jackie

    February 14, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

    @Glenn,

    The beauty of any political discussion is that we all have opinions. The discussion entails vetting those opinions to discern what is “reasonably true.” Given that paradigm, the USA has many cases of Socialist, Fascists , Marxists, Communist and other political manifestos mixed into our democracy. The trick to make this stew balanced is not over-seasoning it with “too” much of any one thing.

    By Copyleft

    February 14, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

    I love to hump goats.

    By Copyleft

    February 14, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

    Jackie, don’t stress yourself TOO much trying to drag straight answers, or even sense, out of stubborn-mule conservatives like Dull-Duh, Dusty, or even Glenn. They all pretend to be rational to various degrees, but they’ll refuse to answer even the simplest questions or acknowledge obvious facts, preferring instead to invent, lie, distort, and distract like the intellectual cowards and lightweights they are.

    That level of denial is NECESSARY to still be a neo-con cheerleader after all their failures.

    Too bad for them that the rest of the country can see things a bit more clearly. A better, more liberal America’s a-comin’, folks!

    YAHOO!

    By Dusty

    February 14, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

    Dear Jackie @3:29

    You, as usual, have drawn the worst conclusion from any possibility. Every country in the world of any size has embassies in major cities around the world. We,too, have embassies around the world and Marines guard them.

    Isolationism went out when airplanes came in. Oceans do not protect us anymore. Therefore we have a system of protection provided by our military in various parts of the world. Are you proposing we set up a “Maginot Line ” to fight terrorism? Is that how you would protect us?

    Your infantile presumptions are simply your “hate Bush” rhetoric posed as “what’s wrong with America”. You seem so sincere and probably are, being in the shadow world of negativism. Continue to get help. There is still hope and you should be able to see it.

    By Dusty is a Mad Cow

    February 14, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

    Isn’t Sigma Pi a GIRLS Sorority? Bad Jim, Very Bad

    By Copyleft

    February 14, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

    You sure do a lot of baseless A*-uming there, Dusty…

    but the only one it makes an A-SS out of is you.

    (snicker)

    By Teddy

    February 14, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

    I think McCain is a decent man. definitely not from the same mold as Bush and Cheney. would be ok with him as President. but I don’t like his stand on immigration. if we are to protect ourselves from terrorists or any foreign enemy we have to know who’s coming and going. and I also think that we are full. we don’t need any more immigrants. especially immigrants that won’t treat us as good as we have treated them when they outnumber us. as a recent report says will happen by 2050. but the illegal immigration is a big problem especially because of all the American money they get for free. and McCain is from Arizona, the fronts lines and nothing has been done for this problem. I respect the man, but Americans have to start coming first. we take care of our own before any one else and before any other country.

    By Copyleft

    February 14, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

    You sure do a lot of baseless A*-uming there, Dusty…

    but the only one it makes an A-SS out of is you.

    (snicker) You bet there’s help and hope available—and it’s spelled “DEMOCRATS.”

    By Glenn

    February 14, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

    Hey Jackie. Notice the side-shuffle, to try to get you to sign off on his smack? As though any of us had been shown to invent facts or lie? As though any of us is a “neo” anything? As if he could state a fact of which we are in denial…

    I believe that in the American military patois of mid-century that sort of thing was called “chickensh!tting”.

    By Oh look

    February 14, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

    The Truth turned back into Dusty! Trying to be a little sneaky aren’t you? We are onto your silly little game.

    By GayGreyGeek

    February 14, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

    Snort. The DustBuster is now attacking Jim for not being reactionary enough. I guess it’s just a matter of time before she’s attacking Shrub-n-Sharpshooter…

    By Jackie

    February 14, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

    @Dusty,

    As usual, you fail to read and comprehend the discussion. The Saudi Embassy in Washington, DC IS NOT GUARDED BY US MARINES. Embassies are sovereign territory of said country. I wonder how you manage to use the word infantile, when you continue to exhibit such spectacular and breath-taking STUPIDITY?

    By TW

    February 14, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

    Glenn - I can only assume your evasive answer represents an discomfort about yourself. I’ll leave it alone, for now, choosing to believe that you really don’t shrug your shoulders at civilian death.

    The Truth - your last post, though still very funny, exposes you as a troll for the left. Comments like yours only drive nails into the GOP coffin. I would say well done, but I, unlike yourself, happen to find value in a strong conservative argument. No doubt you are on the Clinton payroll.

    By Dusty

    February 14, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

    CopyLeft 3:46

    You got that one right. As a Christian, I have no place to go but up.

    McCain ‘08

    By Glenn

    February 14, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

    EVASIVE, TW? What did I evade by answering your question, which by the way you structured rhetorically in the first place?

    WhoTF are you to suggest that any American would shrug his shoulders at thousands killed, and then to sit in judgment as to whether you will or will not “choose” to believe that they shrug or do not shrug? What kind of junior high school debate team are you on?

    By Dusty

    February 14, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

    Jackie,4:05

    US Embassies are guarded by Marines which is what I said. I did not even mention Saudi Arabia.

    Repeat …We, too, have embassies around the world and they are guarded by Marines.

    When I say “we”, I mean Americans. I’m beginning to think you are from outer space.

    By Dusty

    February 14, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

    Parole officer!! Report to 404

    Oh look alias the Kook has broken out AGAIN!

    By getalife

    February 14, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

    I can see why the gop are retiring in droves.

    The whining and crying about no corporate amnesty today was just plain hilarious.

    They have to give up all dignity and self pride to wh-ore out to the telco lobby.

    Make no mistake, Reid and many Dems are wh-ores too and should be purged.

    What a great week to be a political junkie watching C Span. The corruption is so obvious, the corporate media is having a hard time spinning this blatant criminal administration.

    w playing the fear card and called on it was too funny. What a disgusting criminal we have as a failed leader of this great country.

    Amazing.

    By Glenn

    February 14, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

    Art @ 9:31,

    Thanks for the free advice, and for caring so much about the GOP. Let me return the favor by telling you “the purpose of this election” for your party: nominate the first…Socialist in DPUSA history. It’ll do us all some good.

    By @@

    February 14, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

    Conservatives Splitting Jim? since when does a conservative pay attention to polls? The only Pols I’m watching are the ones in the former Soviet Union.

    Polish president pushes for shield despite Russia

    I’ll be voting for McCain. The hot breath of the conservative movement is breathing down his neck and we’ll continue to do it when he’s in the Oval Office. Just like he called Bush out when the war in Iraq wasn’t going well, we’ll be calling him out when his war on the domestic front ain’t looking so good.

    Nope! Worry not Jim…we’ve got this thing under control. Obama has yet to be put on the “hot seat”.

    Jim Wooten Slipping? Pull yourself up buddy, it’s what we conservatives do best.

    By Dusty is Infantile: At the Anal Stage

    February 14, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

    Dusty does not understand military strategy, yet she screams that the Chimp has a much better defense than the Maginot Line. Note to Dusty: The Maginot Line did not fail, is just was not extended along the complete border. The French failed to use their supperior and more numerous armor as effectively as the Germans used their armor. Ah guess you will be telling me next that a biology degree prepares one to evaluate military strategy, you know survival of the fittest and all…Get back to fingering dirt woman, it is what you know best

    By Teddy

    February 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

    what George, Dick and other Republicans have done by smearing the military service of Max Cleland and John Kerry has been absolutely shameful. even Carter served his country with honor. and I have more respect, still not much, for Dick Cheney whose family was way too well connected for him to ever serve if he didn’t want to and Bill Clinton who disagreed with an unjust war and draft dodged, than I do for the way George dishonored this country with his so called military service. and then for George to tear others down with stuff like swift boat just to get himself elected is absolutely horrible. and yes George and his staff were quite aware of the swift boat thing before it came out. that’s wrong, it’s hypocritical and just plain dirty pool. I would still think it was in poor taste if John McCain resorted to those terrible tactics, and I don’t think he will, but if he did, that would be one person you really couldn’t question on the matter. McCain will have to make a stand against illegal immigration. hopefully he won’t be as closely tied to big business and oil companies as the current keystone cops in the White House now. supporting the oil companies hurts this country! and it keeps us tied to the middle east. we need to cut that cord and become energy self-sufficient. but that will never happen if we keep electing people that support oil companies. remember just because somebody says they are a Christian doesn’t make it true. if Jesus is half the man they say he is, he would not consider George Bush a Christian. the greed, his divisive nature, and his intolerance of anyone and anybody that isn’t just like him, all things Jesus would not praise.

    By Dusty is a Dirty Word

    February 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

    She is now bashing Jim for not being Conservative enough!

    By The truth

    February 14, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

    Dusty is Infantile, Hey, I am not Dusty home slice. Don’t know why all of you idiots keep saying this. Anyway, this blog blows about as much as TW blows copyleft. That’s a lot of blowing.

    By Jackie

    February 14, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

    @Dusty,

    To break the conversation down to a level that you can comprehend; we were speaking about what was done in the past and how things are working today with the example of the Saudi embassy in Washington, DC. The example was used to substantiate my argument about the diminution of our freedoms and liberties in the USA. What part of that conversation did you miss?

    By Dusty

    February 14, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

    To the imbecile at 4:34

    Maginot Line? Simple history. You, fool, should have gone to school.

    The Line was built by the French to stop the Germans. It was an ineffective strategic gambit which the Germans flanked and proceeded unobstructed. It is well known as a failed military defense.

    Stop trying to be clever when you are not.

    McCain ‘08

    Our military is not planned on isolationism and antiquated warfare.

    By Mid-South Philosopher

    February 14, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

    Well, it looks as though the corporatist Republicans have embraced McCain fully. With Mitt’s endorsement, Johnny is on his way.

    By getalife

    February 14, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

    “During what was supposed to be a somber memorial service in Statuary Hall for Rep. Tom Lantos, who died Monday, the House chamber became mired in chaos over procedural votes. Democrats angrily denounced the GOP as insensitive for calling a “motion to adjourn” — essentially a dilatory tactic — while dignitaries were still giving tributes to Lantos, a Holocaust survivor who was chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee. But Republican aides shot back quickly, saying it was Democrats who broke an agreement to keep the House in recess during the memorial service”

    The radical right is unhinged like crusty and jim.

    Pathetic.

    By Well, then learn

    February 14, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

    Means your posts are coming off as infantile, because your riff reads very much like hers dawg. Peace.

    By Mike

    February 14, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

    Jackie, You sound like a third grade social studies teacher who is trying to intimidate her seven year olds.

    By Dusty

    February 14, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

    Jackie@4:44

    I was stating my opinion about your mention of US military posts around the world. If that was not obvious to you, it is not my fault.

    You did not read my post. Then you claimed that I said our Marines were guarding the Saudi Embassy. That is not the truth, Jackie, and there is no use to deny what is written right in front of you.

    In other words, you lied. I will not answer anything else you have to say.

    By Teddy

    February 14, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

    sorry Dusty, ‘Dusty is Infantile’ is right in what they said. the line did not fail, however it is correct that it was stupid strategy to think Holland and Belgium would secure your flank. good point ‘Dusty is Infantile’ about the French armor, better and more of them, but as you probably know, they failed to mass them as the Germans did.

    By Dusty

    February 14, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

    Well @5:00

    Your posts are coming off as pure liberal trash. One reason being..I don’t use other IDs like YOU and I don’t “borrow any body’s name”.

    Stop acting like a kid when you’re an old geezer.

    You’re too late…

    There’ll be peace in ‘08

    Get it straight..

    McCain ‘08

    By Teddy

    February 14, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

    actually all of our military is guarding Saudi Arabia, just ask George and all his oil company buddies.

    By @@

    February 14, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

    Romney is a class act. Huckabee is a decent guitar player.

    But what the heck is going on with Clinton and Obama? They’re going nuclear…

    On the Democratic side, Clinton stepped up her assault on front-runner Obama, trying to shore up her appeal to some middle-class voters who appear to be leaning toward him. She proposed restrictions Thursday on oil, insurance, credit card, student loans and Wall Street investment companies she said would save ordinary Americans $55 billion (¤37.6 billion).

    Clinton on Thursday tied Obama to nuclear interests and blamed him for doing little to stave off job losses in his home state of Illinois. «My opponent says that he’ll take on the special interests,» she said. «Well, he told people he stood up to the nuclear industry and passed a bill against them. But he actually let the nuclear industry water down his bill the bill never actually passed.

    Clinton was referring to Exelon Corp., a Chicago-based energy giant and nuclear plant operator, whose executives and employees have contributed more than $200,000 to Obama’s campaigns since 2004.

    Barack Obama doesn’t need any lectures on special interests from the candidate who’s taken more money from Washington lobbyists than any Republican running for President, Obama spokesman Bill Burton responded. He said Clinton had co-sponsored the nuclear regulatory legislation she now criticizes.

    Okey dokey then….

    By Dusty

    February 14, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

    Teddy,5:12

    You go change history. I just tell it like it happened.

    Sorry you don’t know the difference in Iraq, Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. But then you did get to place your little lib anti-Bushism. Yeah, you know all about being infantile.

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