Thinking Right

By Ron

February 13, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

Good morning Jim,I heard it reported last night that many Republicans in Virginia voted Democratic in an attempt to skew the results.Just a thought.Huckabee is dogging along and getting nowhere.Vice President.Any bets as to when the banned delegates from Michigan and Florida will come into play?They will you know.If Republicans are concerned,they need to swollow hard and all vote for McCain in November.He’s going to need every vote he can get.I doubt that he can count on Jeb or the Supreme court this time.

By Glenn

February 13, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

Jim, thanks for the shrewd reminder to keep one’s eye on voter turnout(s). Will do.

If you haven’t already done, you really oughta try on the blue spectacles positing that Huckabee is a DNC shill. That exotic little hermeneutic turns out to explain several otherwise pretty inexplicable moves by and concerning the former Governor of Arkansas.

Furthermore, your lead is among other things a bracing reminder that the Rev. Huckabee continues to articulate differences with Mr. McCain that many Republicans receive not just as reasons to vote for Huckabee, but also as reasons to stay home or vote for Paul or even Obama in protest. In this way Huckabee may well be suppressing GOP turnout even more than McCain’s credentials are doing.

At the very least, Huckabee is de facto the best player on Clintons’ team.

By Redneck Convert

February 13, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

Well, the reason Osama got more votes than all the Republicans is because us godly Republicans are voting for him. If he wins it all, it’s a lead-pipe cinch there will be a Republican in the White House after My President leaves. We know no decent white folk will vote for one of Those People in November. Just look what happened in the senate race up in TN. So might as well cross over and vote for Osama and make it easy on McCain, even if he is a librul. A librul Republican is still better than a librul Democrat. The stupid colledge kids voting for Osama don’t know they are making it easy for us.

We need Osama on the ticket for another reason. This McCain is duller than Sominex. I heard him talk last night and was about to throw a shoe thru the TV if I heard him say “My Friends” one more time. He reads his speech off of a piece of paper and can’t even get it right then. The guy needs to get tested for that memory disease. One of these days he is going to forget hisself and come out on stage with his walker and his false teeth out.

Anyhow, most of us godly Republicans know the Rev. Huckabee is finished. For some reason God didn’t want him to become president. But a few of us like to punch the screen for him just to needle and worry McCain. Anyhow, just listen to Rush and Sean and Neal and Ann and you will know we ain’t exackly happy with McCain.

I had my back turned like I always do when people are on I don’t agree with but it was still awful to hear this Hillary woman trying to suck up to the Mexicans last night in Texas.

Anyhow, just wait till Osama gets picked. When we start cutting loose on him he will feel like a deer at the beginning of hunting season. Or maybe Sister Dusty after the libruls start firing at her on this blog like they done yesterday. Have a good day everybody.

By Jack

February 13, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

“Why oh why do we not have lynch mobs anymore? Why oh why do we not tar and feather crooked politicians anymore?”

Amen. I’m all for it.

By GoldwaterRepublican

February 13, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

Get over it Jim. Mainstream Americans will never ever let the 25 percenters on the right wing hold this nation hostage ever again. This election is definately about change. Especially in the Republican party. The right wing with its xenophobic nativist and talibaptist demogogues are the gravest threat that this nation has ever faced. This is going to be the election where the right wing is put in its proper place forever. Take that to the bank.

By Guvnah Faubus

February 13, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

We don’t need sans-culotte hoi polloi like you around these parts, Jack. Who in hell do you think runs this country for you…people?

By Dennis

February 13, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

Understandably, most Americans (with the help of the mainstream media) are focused on the elections.

Indeed, it is good entertainment.

But a bigger story, if not even more important is that yesterday, the Senate voted to give retro-active immunity to the telecom industry for its participation in illegal spying on Americans (which began prior to 9/11).

Including the crossover Democrats, what Americans have seen is their Parliment Of W******* paying back the telecom industry for its financial contributions to their political campaigns.

There is no better discription or reason for their vote. Americans have been sold out by their own Congress.

And still never asked or answered, who was the Bush administration spying on, and why?

Thanks for your indulgence in reading this post.

Now, back to the soap opera of elections and electing another bunch of political w******* who say one thing and mean another.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Barry Goldwater

February 13, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

You wear the title “Goldwater Republican” like John McCain wore out his welcome in my Senate seat.

By Barry Goldwater

February 13, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

You wear the title “Goldwater Republican” like John McCain wore out his welcome in my Senate seat.

By TW

February 13, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Glenn - great post. Could the best de facto player for the right be Clinton herself?

By GaVoter

February 13, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Well, Jim. If you start hanging around some of the politicians too much, you’re likely to start thinking and even talking like them. At that point, you may wish to start planning your bid for office.

So, please share more of these thoughts from the O-So-Prominent one. Or, please allow me a WAG at it. This Senator expressed concern that “our” party has lost its way and therefore has become splintered once again or vice versa. This Senator is also concerned that if the “party” does not get someone to rally around soon, “we” will lose our opportunity to present a united front against this Democratic head of steam. I could go on but these good ole’ boys are like reading a cheap dime store novel nowadays. Even the comic adventures fall short of reality TV entertainment. I’d just as soon pull out my dog-eared copy of I Robot when I get in the mood to think about what the future may hold for us. Anyway, I have more pressing issues at the moment. I’ve got to come up with an approach to break my daughter out of her “rut”. She’s reading Alas Babylon.

By Dusty

February 13, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

Well, what’s a day without sunshine etc. etc. Jim Wooten is all down in the dumps this morning when he should be shouting in support. McCain is winning!! McCain is WINNING!

Maybe Jim is stirring up a little support here such as get out and vote when it counts! Right!!

Then comes Grandpa RedNeck talking about the possible proclivities of age such as no teeth and poor speechmaking.(RedNeck himself has to “gum it” and can hardly speak English.) But he does know all about dementia and we see his “examples” here every day,such as wait ‘til Obama gets picked.

Better not wait for any magical Demo endings, Grampus RedNeck. It aint gonna happen AGAIN!!

By Political Foreskin

February 13, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

Yesterday’s landslide victories prove that America survived Bush.

Obamamania is real and represent a country that is a polar opposite of the war-mongering, evangelical world that Wooten and Rushannity ditto heads are clinging to. McCain doesn’t have to sell himself to his own party. McCain represents the new republican party. Wooten’s party is dead; his ideals, his ideology, his politics, and his very assumptions about the core values and judgements that can be considered intrinsically American are obsolete. They belong in a museum with the confederate flag.

We are a new nation. McCain is as conservative as a candidate dare be in this new country, and Obama reps a real revolutionary movement of the American People who are excoriating the entrenched theocracy for a more fitting secular government that represents the America that actually exists on this planet, (earth). Reality. People. Real people. Obama will continue to sweep. It’s mathematically unstoppable now. The turning point has been reached. He is the new American Leader and we are now in the 21st century.

I’ve held back, because the promise of Obama was so amazing to me, that I dare not jinx it. Instead, I used double-secret reverse-psychological tactics to pretend to blog for Hillary. It just seemed too good to be true that my own country finally rose up and started constructing their own future with their own hands.

Iraq is the fruition of the GOP’s legislative and judicial craftmanship. Wooten, You got everything you blogged for. Congratulations. You tried to build my America into something our troops are fighting against: theocracy, sectarian hate, elitism, and yes, terrorism.

Indeed, sir, America survived Bush.

By @@

February 13, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

You weren’t paying attention Jim. I never even contemplated voting for Huckabee; I did, however, vote Democrat in the Georgia primary. It was a vote that won’t “count” for the Democrats in November.

Huckafee needs to drop…………… ……………….OUT!!!! OUT was what I intended to say

almost slipped into liberalism with that ^^^ one. Kinda like the liberal who posted this yesterday.

By Fed Up with UGA February 12, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

Yo Dusty: Have a Heart Attack and Die, slowly (any chance you have a webcam and can broadcast your last half hour or so? I can always use a laugh or two). Luv, Hubby

Funny, huh?

A liberal’s embrace. Makes ‘ya feel all warm and cozy don’t it?

By Glenn

February 13, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Hi TW. Nah, I don’t think so, because I expect her to be the nominee. PoFo thought I was placing that and my other bets facetiously, but I wasn’t. When Jim invited our projections, only my VP picks were in jest; the nominees, and most especially the several dates, were very much in earnest.

I believe that there are several empirical methodologies familiar to political scientists (and no, I have no majors or minors in Poli. Sci. or Pub. Admin.) that could corroborate the hypothesis that there is an unsavory relationship between the Clinton campaign and Mike Huckabee.

Were Dennis, for example, set up to run the financials, or to do content analysis, or to track Bill Clinton’s running commentary on Huckabee lo these past 15 years or so, then we might really have something. But otherwise that would be the sort of job that only a fairly gutsy monthly would pay for—-and then probably only were it dropped in its lap by a stringer.

There’s no significant interest that I can see in running oppo on Huckabee. That in itself is somewhat telling.

By getalife

February 13, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

So, the corporate media are back to before NH and writing Clinton off.

Not so fast, Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania will tell the story if it is over or not.

Obama’s campaign manager is much better than Rove and his hope rhetoric has punked many Americans but when he debates the reality of Obama is he is just another politician.

Last night, McInsane used “hope” and “fired up” mocking Obama like a smug, arrogant, gop loser.

So if it is Obama, I hope he crushes that insane lunatic and he will retire.

One thing is for sure, this country does not need another Mcbushie in the WH.

By Political Foreskin

February 13, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

America survived Bush.

McCain doesn’t have to sell himself to his own party, he is the party.

Huckabee’s voters are what’s left of the bush base. Visit them in their cages at the zoo. “Did we ever really act like that, mommy?”

America survived. Be glad.

By Dusty

February 13, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

PoFo 10:03

Yep,PoFo, we certainly did survivwe with Bush, father and son. The terrorists did not make a niche in America’s mainland. Terrorists lost in Kuwait, Afghanistan and Iraq.

Are you pleased? Doesn’t look like it. You have been fighting Bush instead of the terrorists. You Dems want to stop the winning, stop surveillance on foreign phone calls, condemn the companies that helped monitor calls, release war criminals at Guantanamo, stop funding the military, slink out of Iraq and accuse the military of killing civilians with pleasure. That is the “support” Democrats want to continue in the form of anti-war Obama, an ineffectual senator at best. Charm is his only asset.

Then to top it off, you are so afraid that some Americans actually have religion..such as In God we trust. Remember that one. That is trust, not a theocracy.

You ought to be ashamed of calling yourself American. Evidently you like something else better.

By Mad Cow for Cobb Repukes

February 13, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Ah just luvs it, yes I do: Under the self regulation of the Repukes, mad cow disease appears to have been eliminate, but in reality only pubic knowledge of mad cow disease has been suppressed. The disease has been spreading in our beef industry for the last sever years, hidden from the public by the USDA. NOW PAYBACK: The fat cat repukes in cobb county are paying a high price for their lies: ground beef contamined with mad cow disease has been consumed in large quantities by their rich spoiled children in public school… Yes, yes, yes. Remember, the prions that are the so called infective agents in mad cow disease are NOT destroyed by heat, so even well cooked beef does not destroy the mad cow disease. ha ha ha, The Mad Children of Snob County will soon fill all the nursing homes in GA with slobbering, ranting, diseased freaks. See, something good has come out of the otherwise worthless Bush administration…..

By Tommy

February 13, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Political Foreskin just nailed it. You are out wingwacks.

By Glenn

February 13, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

@@,

Your commentary on the pseudo-hate speech directed at Dusty reminds me that I once formed the opinion that liberals generally do have a thing about morbidity. It goes somewhat beyond Rabbi Woody Allen’s lifelong death neurosis. Tim Leary, for example, offered an online, real-time snuff film of his own death.

A British journalist wrote from Moscow in the early ’30s: “There is nothing so sad as a Communist funeral.”

By Tommy

February 13, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Yes DUsty. We do like something better. McCain!

By Mid-South Philosopher

February 13, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim.

With his victories in the Potomac primaries, it is doubtful that there is any way John McCain can be overtaken by Mike Huckabee. The math dictates that, barring some Devine intervention, John McCain will face the Democratic candidate in November.

It is interesting that the Architect, Karl Halderman…excuse me…Rove is now speaking fondly of the Maverick. Listening to him last evening made a certain part of my anatomy want a dip of snuff!

While I think the corporatist element in the Republican Party will rally to him (as indicated by Rove’s remarks)and while he is strong with the military and veterans, I don’t believe McCain is going to be able to reach out to social conservatives and to many fiscal conservatives. Moreover, the independent vote, that McCain has depended upon, seems to be swaying, at least for the time being, toward Obama.

The nation wants change. Eight years of Bush has taken its toll. Unfortunately, the change that we are going to get, if the Democrats come to power, may not be to our liking in the long run.

Barring another attack by Islamist fanatics in the summer or the early fall, I’d say it is extremely likely that either Barak or Hillary will be sleeping in the White House come the night of January 20.

By Dennis

February 13, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

By Glenn February 13, 2008 10:19 AM “Were Dennis, for example, set up to run the financials, or to do content analysis, or to track Bill Clinton’s running commentary on Huckabee lo these past 15 years or so, then we might really have something.”

Thanks for the compliment, Glenn, but I have a hard enough time just to tying my shoes. :)

But I do weep at the reality that millions of Americans saw through the Iraq war before it ever started, yet Congress went ahead and supported it - thinking that it would be a “nice little war”, we would win it, have control of Iraq’s oil and Americans would not care about the loses to our military prefering instead to joy in cheap gas to drive their cars.

And rather than standing up for the privacy rights supposedly guaranteed to the American people by the Constitution, these same Congresspersons also supported the immunity for the telecom industry via the same lies used to invade Iraq, “We’re fighting terrorism.”

There’s more covert terrorism going on against the American people by their own government than terrorism from abroad.

But Americans are so easily distracted, they don’t see it.

At present, I’m with the guy who, on another blog, said;

“If You Can’t Beat ‘Em, Join ‘Em TPM Reader RL throws in the towel:

“I actually like the idea of a unitary executive, because it implies that there could be a unitary citizen. I have begun to consider myself a unitary citizen. I am allowed (by virtue of the definition of a unitary executive) to pick and choose the laws I would like to follow, kind of Thoreau like.

“I also like the idea of retroactive immunity paired with the unitary citizen. I could decide not to follow a stupid law and then forgive myself afterwards.

“But it begins to sound like (horrors) anarchy. Maybe that’s what we now have as a form of government: unitary anarchy. I like it. It works for me!”

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Dusty

February 13, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

10:37

The Mad Cow speaks. But, obviously, he’s “full o’ bull”. Where’s the beef, lil lib loser?? You only gave us tripe.

By Tommy

February 13, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

Mid South Philosopher, McCain doesn’t need social conservatives. And hopefully he will owe them nothing. It is time that “social” conservatives are relegated to the sidelines. They are worse than the Taliban. Saudi Arabia might be a compatible country for their kind of beliefs.

By Don't let this happen to you

February 13, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

“The Mad Cow speaks. But, obviously, he’s “full o’ bull”. Where’s the beef, lil lib loser?? You only gave us tripe.”

Dusty demonstrates for us the mental breakdown caused by her namesake disease - mad cow.

By Ron

February 13, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

In God Some of you Trust,I put my trust in Sam Colt.

By Mad Cow for Dusty's Long Tall Son

February 13, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Ah just hopes he goes to Public School in Cobb County…oh pleeeze

By the truth

February 13, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

The reason McCain can not shake Huckabee is because conservatives realize that the wrong candidate is in the lead. In the end McCain will win the nomination and will be crushed by Osama or Hillary. We conservatives need to lick our wounds and get cranking on getting back to conservatism. Bush is not conservative and neither is McCain. There were real conservatives in the beginning of the race but they dropped out. I like Ron Paul but some of his foreign policies are insane. We need less government, strong military and CLOSED BORDERS!

Bobby Jindal-2012

By Dusty

February 13, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

MidSouth Phil@10:46

You wrote one sentence that should be repeated: the change that we are going to get, if the Democrats comes to power, may not be to our liking in the long run. Right, MidSouth, not in the short run either.

Deciding to vote for a Democrat is like deciding whether or not to jump off a cliff. I’m not for jumping myself.

By Dusty

February 13, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

More tripe @ 10:58 & 11:03

Is this a school holiday or something?

By Political Forethought

February 13, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Shake + Huck = Shuck

Rush + Hannity = Shaunrinthy

Wooten + Blog = Smog

Bite me.

By Mid-South Philosopher

February 13, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

Tommy@10:54

You are absolutely correct. McCain doesn’t need the social conservatives to lose.

However, in a race with Obama, and to a lesser extent with Hillary, he will need every vote he can muster. Take a look at the primary vote count…total Democrats as opposed to total Republian. The Dems are turning-out in numbers considerably higher than the Republicans.

McCain had better get his act together.

By Disgusted

February 13, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Aw heck, those idiots keep ignoring the extreme right wing of the Republican party. If this continues, we’ll never get public floggings and hangings, mandatory church attendance, and the death sentence for abortions.

By John

February 13, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

While republicans were busy trying to put Hillary out of the race by crossing over and voting for Obama, they neglected to put a real conservative in their own party. Now they have McCain who is liberal and Obama who is very liberal. Well there goes the country, whats left of it.

By Don't let this happen to you

February 13, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

The Mad Cow speaks. But, obviously, he’s “full o’ bull”. Where’s the beef, lil lib loser?? You only gave us tripe.

It should be “You gave us only tripe.” The word only, you see is modifying the word tripe, not gave. Maybe you took too many school holidays.

By OneForTheRoad

February 13, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Do you want to see a prime example of a welfare state. Well, one choice is to elect more of the same and wait. The quicker choice is to look to Congress while in session. Within those walls is a prime example to cite in any conversation about a welfare state — a bunch of whining brats living off the taxpayer’s earnings. Who could possibly need a better reason to vote for smaller government.

Ron Paul

By Craig

February 13, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Dusty @ 10:35. Sorry Ma’am but you don’t get to determine who is and is not American.

By deegee

February 13, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

“There were real conservatives in the beginning of the race but they dropped out.”

Any wonder why? Let me help you with that one. Nobody voted for them. It wasn’t because they weren’t well known, or the media was biased, or they didn’t have enough money, or they didn’t get a fair shake. Nobody wants their brand of politics. It’s old and stale. It’s putrid and it stinks. Good riddance.

By Glenn

February 13, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

Dennis, yeah but…Saddam Hussein was the loosest cannon on the planet, and he was aimed daily right at our planes. Pulled the trigger, too.

Difficult to put up with crap like that and still be taken seriously by the Khadaffis of the world. To say nothing of the Heathen Chinee and that weasel in the Kremlin.

Ron: Mind if I opt for J.M. Browning?

Mid-South: You crack me up. You’re right. He’s got all the Bat Utility Belt a Batcandidate needs to lose. Stay tuned.

truth: Why give away the whole game? Democrats are watching…

By TW

February 13, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Glenn - fascinating. If what you are suggesting is true, however, doesn’t that mean the thoughts about the Huckabee VP quest are false?

Also, wouldn’t you agree that McCain’s chances of success wane in proportion to his grip on Bush and his low approval rating? He’s got to cut him loose.

By Dennis

February 13, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

By Glenn February 13, 2008 11:50 AM “Dennis, yeah but…Saddam Hussein was the loosest cannon on the planet, and he was aimed daily right at our planes. Pulled the trigger, too.”

Oh! He was checking on me at bedtime every night. Even when he was on the US payroll.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By getalife

February 13, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

I think McInsane is insane due to being waterboarded many times.

Today, he has the chance to vote on it.

Will the maverick vote it is illegal or cut and run from this vote?

He voted yesterday for corporate amnesty.

By Ron

February 13, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

Glenn,I like John M.,but I currently run a Bill Ruger,Sam Colt combo.Blue Dot and Sierra round it out.

By Glenn

February 13, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

TW,

I’ll go so far as to agree that McCain needs to put a bit more distance between himself and Bush, but he either can’t or mustn’t “cut him loose”, for at least two reasons: Bush has something on him (I won’t discuss it; Dusty’s right about the 11th Commandment kicking in at some point); and he wants and might need Bush’s annointing (with the base) and more importantly his campaigning, with all the huge advantages that entails.

I also think that McCain would put Angela Davis on his ticket if he thought her instrumental to his ambitions. His having flirted at some length with taking the Dem No. 2 spot is just the most analagous of many evidences of this kind of expediency on McCain’s part.

Also, I’m bearing in mind that, shill or no, Huckabee is racking up clout for both the convention and for 2012. Figuratively, and very loosely, put, with every primary win he’s buying another plank of the Party’s platform. He could trade also for VP, if he keeps it up a little longer.

If he’s not a shill (and I’m not at all prepared to concede that he’s not), then he’s playing a very hazardous and arrogant game of trying to do the kind of damage to the Party that only he, in his weird mind, can repair provided he’s kissed just so.

Which brings us back to the 11th Commandment. Even its bringer was the spoiler in ‘76. It took three things to take down Ford, and that was one of them.

By Marvin Giggsley

February 13, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Dusty @ 11:08

I’m all for you jumping, as soon as possible.

HUGE DOLT HATING SMIRK

By John McCain

February 13, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

My Friends, I’m disappointed to read that some of you are disappointed. But let me tell you, My Friends, we need a Republican standing on the steps and raising his hand in January 2009. That Republican, My Friends, will not be Mitt Romney or Ron Paul. My Friends, if you will just tell me what positions will satisfy you and gain your support, I will adopt them. In fact, My Friends, I will be millions of different things to millions of different people. We cannot afford a Democrat in the White House, My Friends.

By Barack Obama

February 13, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Yes, John McCain is my friend.

And yes, John McCain wants the same unity that we want.

And yes, John McCain wants change also.

But not our kind of change, my friends!

Not our brand of hope!

Not our kind of friend!

By Political Foreskin

February 13, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

America survived Bush!

Last night’s landslide victory proves Obamamania is for real. It proves the country is growing up.

It’s not so much change as it is an acceptance of what is!

By Glenn

February 13, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

Dennis,

Fair enough. I was of course referring to U.S. and British warplanes enforcing the no-fly zone over Iraq pursuant to the 1991 peace treaty. You might as well have referred to the period during which Saddam was on the U.N. payroll, as that was the period in which the U.S., by default owing to U.N. corruption, led the invasion to oust him.

By SS KKKlinton - thar she blows!

February 13, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Gurgle gurgle gurgle. The huge racist warship has been hit hard from many fronts. The hatches are blown. The RATs are leaving in packs. The pack RAT leader, Ted Kennedy, jumped ship long before the first hit. There are still a few RATs on this blog clinging on hope. The Shrill can indeed still get the nomination via Superdelegates. If that happens, the will of the people goes up in smoke. But it’s not like the KKKlintons have ever given a damn about the people. Should that happen, Obama supporters will stay away from the booths in November. There truly is a God. Remember, only 42% of Americans voted for Slick Willie in 1992. A lot of people do not like him or his so-called wife. Oh wait, his wife is running - my bad. Oh well, same difference.

By @@

February 13, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Glenn @ 10:41:

This morbid fascination that liberals/socialists have with death is rooted in their “Manifestoed” destiny. Most assuredly, it can be found in the pursuit of “their” perfect utopia, the deaths of others is justified in their minds.

My recent exchange at Luckovich’s with a group of leftists promoting mandated population control has pretty much done me in.

A conservative poster pointed out that they (leftists) never volunteer for the cause. It’s always others they would have step forward.

Sickos to be sure.

By Glenn

February 13, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

@@,

I hesitate to discuss such fragile topics with you here. My sense is that you are right on about the No-Place origins of the morbidity. All kidding aside, the utopianism does stem from a time when the Judeo-Christian eschatology fell into disfavor with the Western intellectuals. They turned instead to Pagan cyclical cosmology, as in Nietsche’s embrace of “Fate”, his celebrated dans macabre.

A colleague of mine was drummed out summarily, despite his completed studies and dissertation, for reporting upon his return from his final fieldwork in China that the Chicoms had taken birth control into new categories of crimes against humanity. To this day I can’t tell which was more sacrosanct, China or birth control.

By Political Foreskin

February 13, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

Is there no subject that Glenn cant prove he’s an idiot with? I’m not worthy!

By Copyleft

February 13, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

@@: You mean, like how neocons always start wars for other people to fight and die in? (Because they “had other priorities,” of course.)

Hee-hee! It’s GREAT to be a real American, and not a sad, pathetic loser Republican.

By Dennis

February 13, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

By Glenn February 13, 2008 12:43 PM Dennis, Fair enough. I was of course referring to U.S. and British warplanes enforcing the no-fly zone over Iraq pursuant to the 1991 peace treaty. You might as well have referred to the period during which Saddam was on the U.N. payroll, as that was the period in which the U.S., by default owing to U.N. corruption, led the invasion to oust him.”

I’m not equating the food for oil as on the UN payroll. Actually, the payroll I was referring to began in the early 1980s.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By GayGreyGeek

February 13, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

@@ @ 12:44 - It’s always others they would have step forward. Sickos to be sure.

Sorta like how all of the Mittster’s sons have volunteered to join the armed forces?

By deegee

February 13, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

Could we be seeing the emergence of a viable third party of Independents? If McCain isn’t getting the Republican vote then who is voting for him? The likely answer is Independents. If the Obama votes garnered among white male voters is real and not cynical then we may be getting what the American people have been requesting for some time. If Huckabee is the standard republican fare and Hillary is the standard democrat fare, then it looks like independent voters are gaining strength.

By Glenn

February 13, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

PoFo,

I think the question is: Is there a subject that you can prove I’m an idiot with?

Now moderns do the dans macabre of Nietschean narcissism,

And superexistentialisticgaiamysticism.

“Embrace your Fate”

As you await

The final cataclysm!

By faith alone St. Peter’s Throne was rent unto a schism!

I’d recommend Hobbes also. And Malthus and Swift. For a contemporary rip-off of Nietsche’s nihilism, see esp. Derrida’s Of Grammatology and commentaries on Heidegger.

Have fun!

Amor fate!

By @@

February 13, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

Glenn @ 12:57:

It’s wise not to discuss such fragile topics with me. You’ve probably sensed that my patience and desire to understand the leftist mind has waned in my age of “enlightenment” here.

America’s socialist are behind the curve. They are on the “tail-end” if you will.

I remember how uncomfortable Putin looked at Yeltsin’s funeral, held in a rebuilt Christian cathedral where prayers were offered and incense burned.

Though Nietzsche associated Christianity with barbarism, he also had this to say:

“How poor is man after all, how ugly, how wheezing, how full of hidden shame!”

I see ^^^ that ugliness in liberals here. They only “claim” to be above it all. Their actions indicate otherwise.

When faith can lift one’s gaze above their hedonism, they tend to harbor resentment. Faith is something they can’t touch, destroy, or control, and they’re all the more bitter because of it.

By Shark Sammich

February 13, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

deegee @ 1:20 asked:

Could we be seeing the emergence of a viable third party of Independents?

No.

This has been another edition of Simple Answers to Simple Questions.

By @@

February 13, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

Franklin D. Roosevelt - Democrat World War II

Harry Truman - Democrat Korean War

John F. Kennedy - Democrat VietNam Lyndon B. Johnson - Democrat turned VietNam into a quagmire. Richard Nixon - Republican pulled us out of VietNam

Bill Clinton - Pre-emptive war in Bosnia

So much for your neo-cons eh Copyleft and GaySpeak?

By deegee

February 13, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Shark Sammich for setting me straight. I’m googling superexistentialisticgaiamysticism.

Fascinazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

By GayGreyGeek

February 13, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

@@ - It’s always others they would have step forward.

Just like the Mittster’s sons volunteering for the armed forces, huh?

Try answering the question I asked, rather than just blathering on incoherently.

By Dusty

February 13, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

@@

I don’t worry too much about libs and their little quirks. They seem to have a death wish for most Republicans. In my case I can only paraphrase Mark Twain: The reports of my demise are somewhat exaggerated. (But you can still send flowers. I love them.)

But that is the way Democrats “fight”. They call “names” and then run away screaming “Die!”. Obama is doing it. He doesn’t like terrorism but he is anti-war. In other words, he names the enemy but he’s not going to fight it.

Fortunately, we have had no other leader of our country with the principles of a coward. That is why we still have freedom.

By Dusty

February 13, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

ATTENTION: Cynthia McKinney has won the Statehood Green Presidential Preference in the District of Columbia.

Uh oh Dems, there goes another hundred or so votes for Obama in the big ol’election. Now don’t cry. Your day will come in another millennium.

Soooo Queen of the Greens…go get ‘em!!!

By Apocalypse

February 13, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Virginia, Maryland, and Washington, DC join a sweep of eight straight victories since Barack won the most states and the most delegates on Super Tuesday.

But the race for the Democratic nomination remains close. It’s going to be a fight for every vote and every delegate in the remaining 18 contests.

Each of us needs to take responsibility for getting as many people involved in this campaign as possible.

More than 400,000 people have donated to this campaign in 2008, and we are on course to reach half-a-million donors before the crucial March 4th primaries and caucuses.

If you make a donation of $25 now, you’ll match the gift of a first-time donor.

Encourage a fellow supporter to step up and own a piece of this campaign — make a matching donation now and double your impact:

https://donate.barackobama.com/promise

The upcoming contests in Wisconsin, Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania will demand energy and resources on an unprecedented scale.

It’s going to take all of us to keep these victories going. But if anyone is up to the task, it’s this movement.

Thanks for your support,

David

David Plouffe Campaign Manager Obama for America

By Dusty

February 13, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse @2:42

Is Obama out of money or something? Is that why you are begging funds for him on a blog?

Try standing on a street corner with your hat in your hand and a sign “Will work for bread or Obama.” That might work too.

By Glenn

February 13, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

@@ at 1:46,

You were spot on about the morbidity, and you’re spot on about the bitterness. Both are traceable skeins. Agree also that the American Left are the caboose. That’s a chief reason why I prefer to call them greens; they’re so slow on the uptake.

By Apocalypse

February 13, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I’ll do that when I see you complain about republicans doing the same thing dumba$$, which they do.

Its called being passionate about your candidate. Some of us feel that sitting on our overweight, out of work a*******es isn’t enough. We feel compelled to go the extra mile sometime. Feeling vindicated because we can post on a blog isn’t enuogh for some of us.

Got it hag?

By Mad Cow for Cobb County Repukes

February 13, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

Listen, if Obama is elected President, and I am allowed to ask for one favor as a campaign supporter and donor, I will ask that Dusty and all her family be sent to Gitmo for one year minimum, for crimes against humanity.

By Try to beat this ticket, right-wingers!

February 13, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Obama/Sam Nunn ‘08

By Dusty

February 13, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

Oh po Apocalypse,3:00

Got your dandruff up, didn’t you? Has anybody given you any bread yet, oh passionate one?

Well, I sure hope so. With all the posting you are doing for Obama-the- Charmer certainly deserves a reward. Please, folks, send bread to Apocalypse. He has worked for it.

Mad Cow,3:02 Aren’t YOU already at Gitmo or did the Feds miss one?

By OneForTheRoad

February 13, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

I donate more to political campaigns than I should when I check the little “$3” box on my 1040. Of course, that’s probably up to a $300 box this year due to inflation. Maybe they should put a box like “I wish to donate my rebate to ___” on this year’s 1040.

By Artie O'Bamma

February 13, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Nunn/Obama ‘08

By Jackie

February 13, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

The Repubs are turning on themselves to try and find out why their political/social agenda is not being followed. It appears folks have begun to understand what they have proposed is not in the best interest of EVERYONE. A total of 29 House/Senate Repubs have announced their “retirement” in the 2008 election. That is only the beginning of the electoral tsunami

By Curious Observer

February 13, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

I will ask that Dusty and all her family be sent to Gitmo for one year minimum, for crimes against humanity.

Will she be put on trial with the six who are facing the death penalty there, and if so, can I buy a ticket?

By Dusty

February 13, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

OK, so earlier today I was checking out the Danica Patrick swimsuit pix on SI.com. She is so hot, I simply must have her. Sorry hubby, I’m switching parties. But I still support our President, even though he won’t approve of my new lifestyle.

By AmVet

February 13, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

I am beginning to wonder if last year’s crazy college football season didn’t set all of this in motion!

The GOP is clearly neo-suicidal after ALL of their neo-conservative candidates were quickly repudiated and sent neo-packing. Even the arguably loony Cong. Paul gets more cred and much more traction than 9/11 Rudy, Flip-flopping Mitt, Fat (and Lazy) Fred or the other early drop out neo-posers!

Then the hated maverick GOP candidate who passes virtually none of their numerous “conservative” neo-litmus tests storms to the apparent nomination.

THEN the Democratic candidate they hoped beyond hope for, the loathed Sen. Clinton, appears to be losing her grasp on the opposing nomination and may not face the Republican winner in November!!!

(And they SO desperately needed her to bring out the neo-compassionate conservatives to vote blindly for any name with an (R) following it!)

THEN the neo-oracles and neo-lunatics of the furthermost right fringe radioland further upset the neo-base by advising them to remain ever intransigent and to not vote for the party’s nominee, and thus probably setting them back a few more elections!

THEN, the worst possible scenario of all potentially unfolds as they are looking at the distinct possibility that a black man (gasp!) complicates (ruins?) the now-proven and necessary Southern Neo-Strategy.

What’s a mother to do? Stay home or vote for a Republican who clearly has no use for the agenda of the neo-cons, nor to tell them that they are essentially incompetent and unnecessary for him to win. Or lead the nation.

Thank you Boise State for beating those detestable Sooners!

By Dont Leave

February 13, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

We have Condi. Please stay.

Yours Truly, The GOP

By Dusty

February 13, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Try to beat ticket @3:10

Awwww… Obama/Nunn??? I was counting on Obama/Jimmy Carter or Ted Kennedy or Barbra Streisand or Farrakhan or even our own Cynthia Tucker (since the other Cynthia is already taken)!! What a disappointment!!

Well, it looks like I will be voting for McCain.

Dearest Curious Observer,@3:20

Now, now, take the noose off the tree in your yard. Republicans are not coming anywhere near your place.

Au revoir, mon amis. Have fun…

By getalife

February 13, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

Well, the corporate dems in the Senate are against torture. Guess there is no money in it.

Of course, the bush dog dems in the House will vote for corporate amnesty like the Senate. They are trying to pass an extension but the bush dogs will vote against it.

By Dusty

February 13, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

WANKER (fool) @ 3:36 Not Dusty

Dear GOP @3:43

Condi is the greatest!! Oh, I’ll stay. You caught me just in time.

Yes, sir…McCain/Condi 08.

Bye now….

By time to play nice

February 13, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

this blog has had a bad effect on dusty, with all the talk of wanking and wotnot. does she even know how pornographic that is? i hope not, poor dear.

By Vandstra

February 13, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

Obama ‘08.

By Clark Clifford

February 13, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Obama ‘24

By Glenn

February 13, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

Trouble with that scathing analysis, AmVet, is that compared to the average Republican, McCain is a neoconservative, a D-Con rat, a D-publican, all hot for Murphy-ridden domestic “reform” schemes and nukemail abroad. Textbook neocon stuff. It’s the paleocons who distrust him the most. Jane and Joe GOP? They’re just in the mood for an honest candidate, and like Diogenes they’re on a lonely hejira. They see that the truth simply is not in John McCain. Guy couldn’t order a Chalupa without lying.

By getalife

February 13, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

Well, the gop tried to pass the Senate FISA bill and it failed.

The extension failed too so w’s head will explode on the MSM.

The Senate passed no torture for the CIA but McInsane vote yes on torture.

Yes folks, he has flipped flopped on torture.

By G. Diddy

February 13, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

American heroes don’t flip-flop, getalife. American heroes don’t switch sides. American heroes don the enemy’s uniform and slip behind enemy lines under cover of darkness and spring up and grease the hateful Gooks in their sleep!

That’s what American heroes do.

By smoked mullet

February 13, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

You were spot on about the morbidity, and you’re spot on about the bitterness. Both are traceable skeins.

Touché Glenn. See the posts at 3:00 and 3:02 for any additional backing of both you and @-@. They seem to be getting more vitriolic as of late which is quite amusing. I especially like the 3:02 - sending Dusty to Club Gitmo just because she’s a Conservative – which of course means evil and criminal to a kook liberal. Damn nazis.

By AmVet

February 13, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

Glenn, McCain’s popularity rests, among many other reasons, with his realization of the stupidity of his party’s Neanderthal stance on global warming, impractical and intransigent stance on deporting 20 million people, lock, stock and barrel and their insanely close relationship with the wannabe theocrats.

Those are the attributes that make him decidedly non neo-conservative.

By smoked mullet

February 13, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

The Wiz

No, this is not some cultural rip off of the Wizard Of Oz, but it sure sounds like it. How many times have we heard the kook left in this nation whine about “tax cuts for the rich” and whatnot? Well, get a load of this: the evil wealthy top 20% income tax payers in this nation make up nearly 70% of all economic activity. You don’t hear the idiot liberal dummycrats p!ss their panties over that, do you?

No, of course you don’t. All you hear about is tax cuts are taken out of the middle class and poor and given to said wealthy - who pay 75% of all personal federal income tax revenue being just 20% of the overall number of said taxpayers as the top 20% (and libs want them to pay MORE) - as if you can get blood from a stone or something.

For those stupid liberals in Little Five Points who may be a little slow or too stoned right now, that means that 80% of taxpayers pay just 25% of all federal income tax and contribute to only 33% of economic activity in this nation. Don’t you just love liberals? Give something “back” to someone who didn’t pay it out in the first place.

Just think about this in liberal dummycrat Alice rabbit hole kook land: you go out and buy a new $25,000 car that has a $2,500 cash rebate. Some loser liberal who doesn’t buy a car wets his panties that he didn’t get his rebate. The dealer caves in and issues him an appeasement of $500 for sitting on his a-ss not buying anything besides lotto tickets, cigarettes, and a case of Bud.

You just witnessed the same thing happening with the Dummycrat-modified economic stimulus package that got passed. Only in liberal Alice- In-Wonderland. I suppose a more accurate term would be Alice-In-Chains under liberalism. Ha. Hahaha. BWAHAHAHA!!!

By smoked mullet

February 13, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

Oh yippee. The Hollywood writers are back to work! Man the ticker tape parade! Kiss a stranger! Watch your TV and go to the theaters 7x24! Take in a homeless bum! Nah, who cares. They’re all a bunch of libs anyway. They should have stayed gone. I sure as hell didn’t miss them.

By smoked mullet

February 13, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

…the stupidity of his party’s Neanderthal stance on global warming - AmVet

WRONG, jackass. It’s the REASON behind it that’s in question. When you fascists on the left can learn how to forecast a damn hurricane season accurately, we’ll slowly let your work your way up to OUR economy and PRIVATE lives. Right now, we’re not listening for good reason. Keep your lunatic emotions out of my life.