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GOP angst, FairTax, fluid thinking

Thinking Right’s weekend free-for-all. Pick a topic:

• Warning signals to GOP Georgia: Of 1.9 million ballots cast Tuesday, 52 percent were in the Democratic primary. In once reliably Republican Cobb County, it was 48 percent. In Gwinnett, 46. Among metro counties, Democrats outnumbered Republicans in these former GOP bastions — Douglas, Rockdale, Newton and Henry. The biggest vote-getter in Cobb and Gwinnett: Barack Obama.

• Another warning sign: Barack Obama may carry Georgia in November if he’s the nominee and if conservatives opt to sit it out, and if Republicans and independents eager to move beyond the race-game politics of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton opt for Obama over McCain. But as they say in the fine print of TV commercials featuring drivers making high-risk maneuvers — amateurs shouldn’t try these maneuvers. They can’t get elected statewide in Georgia marketing the liberalism of Obama. Has anybody heard a peep from Jackson and Sharpton? Democrats’ chances improve when the civil rights protest re-enactors are given play-work away from the TV cameras and microphones.

• Another Super Tuesday observation: This is not yet a Republican state and won’t be until state leaders stop playing personality politics and until somebody explains to the “Other Georgia” what Republicans stand for. The party’s core is in metro Atlanta and along the coast. A Joe Frank Harris or Zell Miller Democrat can still win Georgia. Trouble is, most of that breed is now Republican.

• Condolences, as sincere as they can be, go to former Georgian Cynthia McKinney, defeated in her bid to become the presidential nominee of the Green Party. She lost 2-1 to Ralph Nader.

• The FairTax may have been a factor in Mike Huckabee’s win in Georgia, but the turnout by evangelicals and values voters is the more likely explanation. Huckabee ran a distant third in Fulton, for example, and that’s a group of Republicans who would have the greatest exposure to FairTax arguments, since U.S. Rep. John Linder and WSB talk show host Neal Boortz wrote the book. Linder represents Newton, Barrow, Forsyth, Walton and part of Gwinnett, all counties where Huckabee did well, but similar in pattern to his performance elsewhere on the edge of metro Atlanta and in pockets around the state.

• Even among baboons, daddies matter. A study of yellow baboons living near Kenya’s Mount Kilimanjaro finds that females raised in groups with their fathers matured earlier and had a longer reproductive life than other baboons. It is child cruelty to bring children into the world intentionally without a father present. That’s the disadvantage now inflicted on 70 percent of black children, almost half the Hispanics and a quarter of the whites. No safety net can ever equal a caring father.

• Gov. Sonny Perdue, applying good, sound common sense, modifies water-use rules to permit the landscape industry to survive and to permit swimming pools to open. Rules applied stupidly undermine support for rule-makers.

• The Cobb County school board — my Cobb County — plans to call a referendum for Sept. 16 on extending the sales tax for another five years. Here’s one “no” vote. The general election is six weeks later, on Nov. 4. Board members say they can’t wait because the delay would mean about $40 million less in collections. Voters should reject any special election proposition that’s not held during a primary or general election, when voters actually show up.

• The drunks, fresh from an AA meeting, take a snort. Or two. Or a dozen — prompting state Sen. Eric Johnson, the president pro tem, to declare in exasperation: “It’s becoming increasingly clear that DeKalb and Fulton don’t want to give up their political meddling in Grady [hospital]. It is time for the state to wash our hands of this mess. All we have tried to do is help. All we have asked for in exchange is a new nonpolitical board of directors. Let Grady go. Only then can we create a new health care delivery system.”

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By TW

February 8, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this

Trouble is, most of that breed is now Republican.

Could this be the start of Mr. Wooten acknowledging the source of his political fleas?

Step two – name the dogs, Mr. Wooten. Free your soul. Here’s some help.

1.Dick Cheney

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By jbmlaw

February 8, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. Perhaps I am whistling past the graveyard, but Osama/Obamania is simply no longer a serious concern for me as a Republican advocate. Funny articles pop up now; apt ridicule tempers fawning hero worship. Such an essay led Taranto’s column: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120240722108951205.html?mod=Best+of+the+Web+Today

ALERT FOR THE PROTECTION OF LEFTIST’S FEELINGS – DO NOT READ THIS PARAGRAPH AS IT WILL MAKE YOU MAD AND I DON’T CARE SINCE I’M GOING ON VACATION. Re the lack of capacity for the “other” Georgia to appreciate “Republicanism,” I do not have a problem with election of conservative democrats. I wish all democrats were conservatives, and the annual elections were a mere team competition. So long as the democrats are under control of the socialists, this is a life or death struggle. I do not intend my language to be humorous, as I view today’s democrats as a “cult of death,” one that sacrifices the innocent unborn for the convenience of the frivolous leftists, one that exposes Americans to murderous Islamists for the sake of preserving the right to sue corporations for cooperating with the government. That faithless disregard of the sanctity of innocent life also has an even darker side, one that opposes execution of heinous domestic killers, one that gleefully undermines military morale at a time of war, and one that would criminally prosecute our leaders for water-boarding three kingpins of the terrorist organizations. Conservatives, including conservative democrats, are smart enough to know conservatives (of either party) protect us better from the killers, wherever found. Leftists are airheads. END OF ALERT.

Rev. Huckabee’s success was explained by Lincoln almost 150 years ago; “some of the people” supported Rev. Huckabee.

Cover up Jim; some idiots will willfully misunderstand your baboon analogy.

Ultimately, eventually, all rules are applied stupidly. I suggest amending the constitution, causing every law and every regulation to expire after 10 years unless renewed and reauthorized by specific vote. Make an exception for the six common law intentional torts.

I always vote “no” on all tax questions.

Congress had Grady in mind when it drafted Chapter 7. Unfortunately it did not have Chapter 7 in mind when it drafted its community service mandates.

By Mid-South Philosopher

February 8, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim,

I am happy that you have formally recognized that some of Mike Huckabee’s support rises from his embracing the Fair Tax. Anyone who has ever had dealings with the Infernal…excuse me…the Internal Revenue Service knows that, that organization is as near to the Gestapo as anything since the 1940s. Of course, when one reads the Tax Code of the United States and the regulations that the IRS has formulated, it is clear that a bunch of drunken baboons and orangutans got in a smoked filled room somewhere and came up with that mess.

The Fair Tax is the most rational and equitable plan for tax reformation ever envisioned in the United States. Consequently, there is no way in Hades that it will ever be enacted. There is no way in Hades that the politicians…Republican, Democrat, Corporatist, Evangelical, Socialist, or Mugwamp… will give up the power that the Fair Tax would strip from the Congress.

Huckabee may gain a few votes with his support of the Fair Tax, John Linder, good man that he is, and Neal Bortz, local pain in the posterior, may sell some books; but, in the final analysis, the vast nose-picking herd of Americans will continue to bow to the status quo and keep paying through the nose on and on in infinitum.

By Just Nasty and Mean

February 8, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

It’s easy to be an apathetic conservative, these days. Let’s take a look at John McCain (much from an earlier blog).

-IMMIGRATION: he wrote the bill (co-sponsored by good buddy Ted Kennedy), granting tacit amnesty to 12+ million illegal immigrants; and then tried to get the legislation passed quickly before details leaked out for public scrutiny. He’s now changed his position to include “Secure the borders first”. The question now becomes—-what happens AFTER border security—-blanket amnesty for sale for $3,000?

-SOCIAL SECURITY: he voted to give your social security money to illegal immigrants.

-TAXES: he voted against the Bush tax cuts multiple times—-but he has since flip-flopped and has campaigned as a lifelong tax-cutter. The truth is John McCain is a class-warfare democrat on taxes. He provides no specifics on tax reform other than undefined platitudes.

-RHETORIC: he routinely engages in Democratic class warfare against big companies in America, particularly the “evil” drug companies who research cures to debilitating diseases for a profit

-ECONOMY: as recently as December 2007 he admitted he “does not know the economy very well” and needed to get better at it. John McCain would be MUCH BETTER as a Sec. of Defense than President.

-1ST AMENDMENT: he wrote the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill—the largest assault on the 1st amendment since its inception— that was thrown out by the Supreme Court as unconstitutional infringement of the 1st Amendment (co-sponsored by ultra-liberal Democrat Russ Feingold). Some believe his positions make McCain predisposed to the Fairness Doctrine to shut down talk radio.

-2ND AMENDMENT: he was called the “worst 2nd amendment candidate” by the president of the NRA

-ENERGY TAX: wrote a bill (co-sponsored by his buddy Lieberman) a current Senate bill imposing a massive tax on energy, which, according to the Department of Energy, would raise the price of gasoline at least 50 cents a gallon and put 300,000 Americans out of work!

-GLOBAL WARMING: supports radical global warming legislation, which involved him voting with every Democrat; think only America is responsible to take action, not other superpowers. He declared the debate on Global Warming “Over” ‘and no longer debatable.

-JUDGES: he joined forces with Democrats (Gang of 14) to block the Senate Republican’s attempt to confirm conservative, strict constructionist judges; also said Alito was too conservative for his liking.

-WAR ON TERROR: While exceptionally strong on support for the war, he still fought—-along with Hillary Clinton— to demand that terrorists prisoners be given full American rights and a US trials.

-GAY MARRIAGE: he joined liberals to fight against a federal marriage amendment supporting the institution of traditional marriage

-CHRISTIANS: campaigning in 2000, he famously described Christian leaders as “agents of intolerance”

-BI-PARTISANSHIP: he met with leading Democrats in 2004 to discuss the serious possibility of being John Kerry’s Vice-President; and publicly considered leaving the Republican Party in 2001 after he lost the primary.

-PROFESSIONAL ETHICS: ringleader of the infamous Keating 5 ethical scandal for Savings and Loans, which cost US tax payers some $160 billion.

-PERSONAL ETHICS: McCain cheated on his first wife after she had a severe accident that left her partially disabled. He then divorced her and married his multi-millionaire mistress, whose daddy bought McCain a spot in the Congress.

Now tell me again why conservatives should be excited?

Regarding Grady—- Everybody (taxpayers, patients) would save Million$$ if Grady were allowed to turn to dust—and rebuilt from scratch. Grady is a cesspool of cronyism, nepotism, inefficiency, bureaucracy, waste and horrifically bad management. I applaud and support Senator Eric Johnson’s comments. **Let Grady fail.

By jbmlaw

February 8, 2008 8:14 AM | Link to this

Amendment of my 8:05, I always vote “no” on all tax increases.

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

February 8, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

Oh, Jim.

Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim….

What is it with you and those Republicans? Why do you continue to have such a romantic vision of them?

You’re like that dreamy-eyed cheerleader who continues to idolize the football team, refusing to acknowledge that they’re really a bunch of drunken louts…even after she’s taken advantage of repeatedly.

Jim, the leadership of this state acts the way they do because that’s the way they are…they’re no better than any of the other politicians that you love to Cherry Pick on. They’re politicians…their stripes aren’t dyed on…that’s how they actually look. They’re egomaniacal crooks out for themselves and those who can afford to buy them. Just admit it!

Oh…and let’s check back this summer on Sonni’s “Fill-er-up” stance on pools and landscapers. I can’t wait to see what we think is more important in August 08…swim teams and landscaping jobs or clean water.

Oh…and congrats on the federal redisribution of weath plan that the GOP signed up for. I love that kind of stuff.

By Ron

February 8, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

Good moring Jim,I see the leader of the Evangelicals has endorsed Huckabee. How wonderful.Fair tax?It wouldn't be after all the exemptions were added. Fill the pools and water the lawns and have life go on as usual.The water will either run out or it won't.If it does,then maybe the lawns and the pools should have been shut down.If it doesn't,Sonny is right. Poor Cynthia,can't get to be a fringe in a fringe party.Lots of ego,nothing else. You are right,Georgia is not yet a Republican state,so there's still hope. Have a large and productive day.We retirees need the funds put into Social Security.

By Joe Bland

February 8, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

I hope another Joe Frank Harris can never be elected. He was our first ever dead governor. Who could ever forget his empty glass “toast,” at Chateau Elan. Good dig at Zell, though, by including him in the same sentence.

“civil rights protest re-enactors,” Jim, is that original? If it is bravo! If not, bravo for repeating it. Very descriptive.

Think I’ll get me some fake documents and vote no with you on that school referendum. Our cities, counties and schools have figured out that dirty tricks are the way to get what they want.

It’s going to be sad to see Grady eventually implode.

By Ron

February 8, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw,Jim deservees a pass every now and then.I gave him one on the baboon thing.

By Joe Bland

February 8, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

“He looked at me, and the look in his eyes was worth 1,000 words,” said [Kim] Mack, now a regional field organizer. Obama hugged her and whispered something in her ear—she was so thrilled she doesn’t remember what it was… .”

Mystery solved. What he said was: “I have to be leaving now, but I’m not going to let that come between us. Okay?”

By @@

February 8, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

Warning signals to the GOP Jim? How about this warning?….I voted dem in the primary as did many of my conservative friends who called for advise—“Revisit the days of your naivete” I told them “vote dem in the primary and grow up between primary and November.’ Vote Republican in the general.” It’s good to be bad.

Like Jackson and Sharpton can stay away from TV cameras and microphones. Give me a break. If they reappear, they’ve got some splainin’ to do.

You can bet Zell won’t shy away from the cameras or microphones. He’ll be front and “center” redefining what it means to be an independent Demo….er Republican.

Sorry Cynthia…we knew you when. Step up to the microphone—we know you can’t resist Obama.

File “Fair Tax” under values voters Jim. You then have yourself a twofer.

I saw some lady being interviewed about Sonny’s decision to ease up on water restrictions. “We don’t know what the future rainfall will be” she said. “this is irresponsible.” A dem looking for guarantees? Whoa is she.

You’re in serious trouble with your paragraph 6 Jim. It’s a good thing they’re “yellow” and in the interest of children, you’re not.

Funny thing Jim…I passed out flyers promoting our local option sales tax just before I went to the polling place to vote Democrat. I felt so……..??????

Fulton and DeKalb don’t want to give up their political meddling? Fulton and DeKalb don’t want to give up their drunks and addicts. Cookin’ the books! “Ooooooo it’s so good.”

James Taranto nails the Svengali Obama. When Frank Luntz asked some 30 “undecided” Democrats likely to dance to the Obama trance what he had accomplished during his political career, none of them could come up with an answer. One dumb dem struggled to answer…”He helps old people.”

Duhhhhhhhh!

By OneForTheRoad

February 8, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

Not to worry. Technology will save us from ourselves, eventually. For instance, we now have the ability to detect aliens. Yes indeed. A “humanoid” has been spotted on Mars and several redundant traffic cameras are being aimed at it as we type. Should this alien attempt entry into our space, we will be prepared. For once it attempts to travel on its own within our borders, our “trained eyes” will inform local authorities and they will have no choice but to apprehend this creature and immediately declare it to be illegally motivated. Failure by local authorities to adequately complete the prescribed steps may possibly result in talks of future opportunities to convene yet undetermined potentially uninterested parties, if they so choose, in discussions, once every other five to seven years or less frequently as needed unless said activities are found ineffective by lack of law unenforcement. For more information on this and other topics as well as the latest traffic and weather reports, please don’t anonymously contact your local, state, and federal elected officials. This message has been partially funded by your local SPLOST taxes, other sales taxes, ad valorem taxes, income taxes, non-income taxes, all applicable and non-applicable fees, and other monies yet to be obtained through yet to be determined Fair and UnFair means.

By UGAH is GAY

February 8, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

Yo Quack boy lawyer, ah thinks they needs ya over on the Ga Tech board, lawyers are gitt’in the s@@t kicked out of them over there… Better hurry…

By MADMOMMY

February 8, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

Thanks to Mid-South for really spelling out in plain sight what I have known about Mccain for a long time now. Let’s not let this sheep into office under a lie and lets put someone real into office. Go Huckabee!! I don’t really know what the answer is on the whole water issue, but we need to do something and people just “doing what’s right” will get us know where. As long as there are people out there who feel as if just because they have money, they shouldn’t have to do without- let the little people pay and worry about that is how things are going to stay. Until they get up one morning and have no water, they aren’t going to take the issue seriously unless of course they own a boat and didn’t get to use it all summer.
Grady, Grady, Grady! What should we do? All I ever hear about you makes me sad and blue. If we can’t make changes to those calling the shots, any economic assistance is going to go up in smoke and all they will ever do is hold their hand out. If Grady does fail, who will be there to pick up the pieces and allow it to thrive?
COBB CO. You should be ashamed of yourself for sneaking around to try ad drum up more money to waste. Show we what you have done with it to begin with and then maybe I will consider it, but it is doubtful. Dem’s- put in a canidate that we Reb’s can easly shut out.
Thanks and have a great Friday!

By UGAH is GAY

February 8, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

More wars, a draft - yeah, it will be score time for all middle aged men with the hot young 20 somethings left behind while their husbands and boyfriends are off killing third world people…Maybe McClown can trade in that rapidly aging last decades trophy wife for a newer model….Naw, even desperate 20 somethings have higher standards than old cancer-face

By Shar

February 8, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

Good Morning. That 1.9 million votes were cast in a Georgia primary is a sign of hope, not warning. A record turnout is achievable when voters feel that their ballot will actually count rather than ratify a foregone conclusion. The preponderance of Democratic votes is, most likely, due to crossovers, although it would be great if state Republicans did, in fact, regard it as a reflection on their juvenile, self-interested bombast of late.

Given the whopping chunk added to my property tax bill for Grady, I’d expect my county commission to be front and center in discussions on how to address Grady’s problems. If Fulton and Dekalb are to be stuck with the bill, they should be at the table. The problem is that the people involved are still trying to covertly maintain business as usual, with all its cozy graft, fraud and corruption. The commissions should draft citizen panels to participate in the Grady restructuring process, and disqualify anyone who has been economically linked with the Hospital Authority. Closing Grady in order to get rid of the thieves throws the baby out with the bathwater, and causes hardship and suffering among Grady’s patients.

By Shar

February 8, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

Good Morning. That 1.9 million votes were cast in a Georgia primary is a sign of hope, not warning. A record turnout is achievable when voters feel that their ballot will actually count rather than ratify a foregone conclusion. The preponderance of Democratic votes is, most likely, due to crossovers, although it would be great if state Republicans did, in fact, regard it as a reflection on their juvenile, self-interested bombast of late.

Given the whopping chunk added to my property tax bill for Grady, I’d expect my county commission to be front and center in discussions on how to address Grady’s problems. If Fulton and Dekalb are to be stuck with the bill, they should be at the table. The problem is that the people involved are still trying to covertly maintain business as usual, with all its cozy graft, fraud and corruption. The commissions should draft citizen panels to participate in the Grady restructuring process, and disqualify anyone who has been economically linked with the Hospital Authority. Closing Grady in order to get rid of the thieves throws the baby out with the bathwater, and causes hardship and suffering among Grady’s patients.

Note to jbmlaw: safe travel, happy home.

By Steve

February 8, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

The neocon event is OVER. It’ll either be McCain (moderate) or Hillary/Obama (liberal). Sorry guys, the pendulum has swung back, and you can thank George Bush et al for this.

Even if McCain only gets 20-30% of the remaining votes, he’ll still beat Huckelberry.

Fair Tax? Go research THAT one. ALL of you will end up paying more taxes as only the poor and very rich benefit from that bungled plan. Follow the money…

By Steve

February 8, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

The neocon event is OVER. It’ll either be McCain (moderate) or Hillary/Obama (liberal). Sorry guys, the pendulum has swung back, and you can thank George Bush et al for this.

Even if McCain only gets 20-30% of the remaining votes, he’ll still beat Huckelberry.

Fair Tax? Go research THAT one. ALL of you will end up paying more taxes as only the poor and very rich benefit from that bungled plan. Follow the money…

By AH

February 8, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Remember less than 10% of the people supported the American Revolution, but that turned out to be in the best interest of everyone in this country. The Fair Tax is the same way. Most people don’t/can’t understand it, but it is in all of our best interest. Will it be enacted this fall, no. It will take time and hard work to make it a reality. In the meantime Huckabee, Linder, Boortz and FairTax.org are getting the word out. The first time I heard about it I thought it was the absolute worst idea I’ve ever heard. Then I read the book digested it and now I understand it. It is not an easy sell but once it gets out there people really embrace it. Over the past two years I have personally convinced at least 100 people of the value of the Fair Tax and they in turn have talked to their family and friends. It is growing but it is not easy.

By Glenn

February 8, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

  • DAY 8: No Child Left Unsold

Heidi. Mawnin yall. A mighty fine tempetour we alls enjoyin this fine day!

BOO! That was to scare off you young Kosmonauts with a blast of pure Texan. Scram.

jbm, thank you for a beautiful and incisive credo pro vita. I’m totally down with that. And you know what? I suspect that a certain heroic Polish intellectual, were he not busy Elsewhere, would take giant steps across one of the biggest divides in all the Great Traditions to embrace Mainliner you for putting it out there—-and in the new media no less, the media in which he saw such promise where others see only lies.

PoFo,

Whether you like it or not, I put in with my Presbytery a good word for your Missus and you. One hopes, on a wing and a prayer, that the Maker can do without our first names, familiar to Him even before our birth, onnacounta He surfs (as my mother and I always suspected) and thereby knows your many names by a single one. [Nice bracketing, eh?] Peace and wellness to you both, really. End of MySpace Moment.

Jim,

Grady, Grady. Went and saw the joint last weekend. Old noseferniewz still twitches now and then. It’s just amazing what a haircut, a tweedy uniform and a pair of double-soled brogans can do in a clinical environment.

What a fricking snakepit! I realize there’s only one Grady, Allah be praised, but how many others like that have you Atlantans got stashed around here?

Whole place is set up—-even architecturally!—-to bilk the carriers and the courts -> taxpayers, the “patients” (I actually heard them nonchallantly called “inmates”, to their faces) be abso-lutely damned.

So that’s where the Twelvestepping comes in. Remand them to Purgatory, Where It’s Always Amateur Night! for the actual therapeutic component. AA, after all, is expert in those things. Expert in recidivism.

The way that scam is set up, by no fault of the obviously corrupt day-to-day administrators of Grady, what could anyone expect but for the drunks to wash out onto the streets jonzin fer likker but quick?

Here’s a very hot tip. Religious Studies. I highly recommend it for those of you with three teenage daughters, for you delightfully engaged and deluded young Kosbots, and even for Ensign Super-C. One of the funner things about the scientific study of religions is the part where you get to learn about cults, and how they’re made up and what defines and drives them. Then you discover that the United States of America for some mysterious reason is the king-hell World Capital To Beat the Band of cultdom. This place in which you sit is THE hothouse for cult studies.

Kool-Ade and coffee don’t mix; they make alcohol. And that is this quack’s diagnosis of Grady, Once Visited.

[Oliver Howard 08]

By Steve

February 8, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

The Un-Fairtax is nonsense. I agree the tax system needs to be cleaned up, but the progressive tax system works in this country. Remember that even with a sales tax, folks will still be paying FICA, state, local, and property taxes. Try funding the fed govt on a consumption tax, and you’ll see your state taxes rise to compensate the shortfall.

Google “fair tax hurts middle class” and learn something outside of the Boortz propoganda.

By Craig

February 8, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Boortz propaganda? You mean I should actually, like, think for myself? I dunno, that’s pretty difficult for us Republicans.

By Curious Observer

February 8, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

The Georgia Democrats of which Wooten writes almost wistfully are DINOs—Democrats in Name Only. They oppose abortion, civil rights laws, federal powers, and just about any other cause supported by national Democrats. It’s just that they cannot bring themselves to adopt the Republican label. In short, they are duplicates of Zell Miller, and the Democratic party is infinitely better off without them.

The poet Dante had a special place for such poseurs and fence-sitters—an anteroom outside the gates of Hell. Satan didn’t want them, and neither did God. Well, we Democrats don’t want them either. Watch in November as they enter the voting booth, swallow hard, and push the screen for McCain. Only an idiot would think they might vote for Clinton or Obama.

By spaceman109

February 8, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

yes, i am aware that many far-right conservatives have serious problems with john mccain. these same people recoil in horror at the prospect of a clinton-or-obama presidency. therefore i for one would suggest they get over themselves and vote for mccain in november. those who choose to be apathetic conservatives will hasten the election of clinton or mccain.

i am not able to listen to sean hannity’s radio program since i work at that time, but i could just imagine that he wept on the air when giuliani withdrew from the race. and wasn’t fox news the giuliani news network? or do i miss my guess?

by the way, if one has been hannitized, one has given up on logical or rational thought in regareds to politics.

poor cynthia mckinney. she now has to return to real-world work. oops, i forgot; she cannot function in such an enviroment, so i am sure some admirer will give her a make-work job for a cushy amount of money.

mid-south believes that the vast majority of nose-picking americans will opt for the status quo instead of supporting the fairtax. wow….i did not realize that romney and giuliani are nose-pickers.

i see in the paper this morning that the pointy-heads in the state legislature have a bill in the hopper which claims that georgia’s border with tennessee should actually touch the tennessee river. one is hardly surprised that those brain-dead clowns would resort to such a measure. tis much easier than taking on the developers.

the world gets stranger every day. all we can do is point and laugh.

By Monica

February 8, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

Of the 52 percent who voted democrat, I’d wager that 10% voted democrat to define who the competition will be for the republican runner in Novemebr. They won’t vote that way then.

Georgia needs Grady. If Grady falls, every other hospital will follow. Do you think that Crawford Long or Peidmont or Emory will take the indigent patients?

Fair Tax = more taxes. How about a flat tax? Everyone pays 10% of his income in federal taxes. No IRS, no deductions, no 1040’s.

By UGAH is GAY

February 8, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Just as there are Liar Loans there are Liar taxpayers: Most small business people lie on their taxes: The taxpreparer tells them the average deduction for each item for their line of business and income, and they claim the average, even though there real deductions are much less. We must prosecute those who lied to get morgagage loans, especially those who lied and said the house would be thier primary residence, when in reality they were investors buying speculative property for a quick profit. In that case, all the liars assets should be placed at risk to repay the otherwise non recourse loan..Give them some jail time too…

By UGAH is GAY

February 8, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

RESUME GEORGE W. BUSH 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington , DC 20520 EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE: Law Enforcement: · I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pleaded guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver’s license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been ‘lost’ and is not available. Military: · I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam . College: · I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader. Past Work Experience: · I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. · I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn’t find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. · I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. · With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas. Accomplishments As Governor Of Texas: · I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America. · I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money. · I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history. · With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida, and my father’s appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President of the United States, after losing by over 500,000 votes. Accomplishments As President (with 4 3 5 Notable Firsts): · I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record. · I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week. · I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury. · I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history. · I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period. · I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period. · I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market. In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues. · I’m proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My ‘poorest millionaire, ’ Condoleezza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her. · I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. President. · I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations. · My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history, · My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision. · I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history. I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed. · I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history. · I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts · I appointed more convicted criminals to my administration than any President in U.S. history. · I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States Government. · I’ve broken more international treaties than any President in U.S history. · I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations to remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission. · I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law. · I refused to allow inspector’s access to U.S. ‘prisoners of war’ detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention. · I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US election). · I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President since the advent of television. · I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period. After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history. · I garnered the most sympathy ever for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in

By Glenn

February 8, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Yay, Monica! Jim and his unimaginative legislator friends have broken their picks on Grady. [Wonder if they’re among McCain’s mythical creatures, the “mainstream conservatives”? Unicorns under the Dome?] But you and Shar and I haven’t. It’s over; let’s go!

Grady is dead. Long live Grady!

[Oliver Howard 08]

By getalife

February 8, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Bush: “Peace And Prosperity” At Stake In Election:

That was President Clinton’s time in office and we can have it again.

Clinton/Obama.

By MAT

February 8, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

Two things: First, Kilimanjaro is in Tanzania, not Kenya.

Second, I’ll see your baboons-with-devoted-fathers and raise you monkey colonies in which dominant males taking control of female harem groups begin by murdering all infant progeny of their predecessor males. These colonies do quite well in the wild.

Lesson? Be careful when using cross-species comparisons to justify moralizations directed toward homo sapiens (though I’m with you on the importance of fathers in families).

By Glenn

February 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Who is this fool ^^ who’s running against W in the last campaign? [Way to keep your eye on the ball, there, Pal. Keep it up.]

Spaceman,

If you’d come down from Space Mtn. for a minute and leave the condescension and derision mountaintop, you’d see that we’re in a bind with no place to go. Your man is the biggest Jack-of-All-Trade-offs this country probably has ever seen. If you’re familiar with Strong Issue/Weak Issue political science, then you surely understand that the man’s coalition is looser than a Swingers Ball. You can’t help hold it together by brow-beating people into swearing your oath of allegiance to this deluded old hack. No shortcuts. Sell. Sell. Sell. Earn it.

[Sam Houston 08]

By helloooo

February 8, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

actually Steve the “progressive tax system” DOESN’T work because the powers that be continue to use the buddy system to help each other and stomp all over the rest of us—loopholes and exemptions and special taxes and special rules. and i suggest you actually READ the Act instead of basing your opposition on propaganda from the “other” side of the issue! there are a lot of legitimate questions about ANY change in our way of financing our government…but since we’re not supposed to be governed ‘individually’ by the FEDERAL government… perhaps this is one good way to move back toward LOCAL governance???

By Glenn

February 8, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

MAT,

Believe it or not, the ethologist Mel Konner once was under a grant to advise the U.S. government’s arms control experts on the nature of mammalian violence and warfare. Amusing Factoid #1327.

By Truth

February 8, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

The wonderful thing about this election is that with the demise of Romney the racist, bigot, xenophobes have no candidate. America is definately headed in the right direction. The right wing is dead. Finally. Thank God Almighty for that.

By Blind Homer

February 8, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

What is ‘Fair’ about a tax that is regressive in respect to income above the poverty level? Of course the current system, after the 2001 Bush tax cuts, isn’t very fair either; Anne Cox Chambers pays a lower percentage than I do now. Oh, and Obama is still running but has no chance for the nomination so all scenarios other than McCain-Clinton are just conversation for the talking heads.

By Diogenes

February 8, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim,

Taking note of your first two observations. I think a most logical example for the Democratic resurgence is that the Republican party has failed so miserably at responding to the needs of the voter and has treated him with such contempt that the people are seeing through that sham and are ready to elect those who have the best interests of the common man in mind. If the Republicans continue to show such utter disdain for American values, I think we can be assured of a turn to the Democratic party and humanistic values.

By spaceman109

February 8, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

hey glenn,

actually, i preferred huckabee for the nomination, but he did not have the organization or money to be competitive nationwide. then again, neither did mccain for a while.

and yes, i would rather vote for mccain as opposed to the alternative. i think he has at least enough of an open mind concerning the fairtax. giuliani and romney were both fiercely opposed to this tax revolution.

in rerefence to your comment about brow-beating, we have been through that. from 2001 until the 2006 elections, we were browbeaten by this administration, which demanded blind obedience to whatever they wanted. those who opposed…yea verily, even those in their own party, were not only wrong but were also stupid. opponents were not openly called stupid, but the implications were obvious between the lines.

By Glenn

February 8, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

Truth,

With a name like that you must be familiar with the “fighting words” doctrine of First Amendment Law. So I’d remind you that “fighting words” are those which carry the force of blows, such that average janes and joes, thus struck viscerally, can be expected to respond with violence. The Constitution itself protects the respondent, not the dealer of blows.

You’re calling me—-and other persons here—-a racist and a bigot. I don’t know about the others, but in my book them’s fightin’ words. Do not do it again. You are using this newspaper to engage in Constitutionally unprotected speech.

By deegee

February 8, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

It appears that JW is still drunk from his Quit Romney pity party. Who can make any sense out of paragraph 2? Run-on sentence number 1 contradicts sentence number 3. Who but race-baiter JW has mentioned Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton with respect to the dynamics of Georgia elections?

Sleep it off, JW.

By MAT

February 8, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Glenn,

Heh, did not know that, thanks. Interesting since humans and ants are the only two species known to wage large-scale, interpopulation “warfare.”

Mel Konner is one smart cookie. The Tangled Wing=brilliant.

By OneForTheRoad

February 8, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

I like to read. I especially like to read when I make my routine trip to “the man’s reading room”. I don’t know why — maybe it’s instinct. Anyway, I used to carry reading material with me. Now, I’ve taken to keeping it stored there so I don’t have to search for print in advance. So, I’ve printed legislation directly on that oh-so-soft paper — in indelible ink, of course. Who would want that stuff rubbing off during use. I was thinking about starting up a small business here in the state — the state with the politicians that care so much about the small taxpayer. I was thinking that there would be a market for my oh-so-soft paper especially down at the dome. It could serve as a reminder of all the great efforts made there every day. Another advantage of this oh-so-soft printed paper is that it is compostable — no flushing required. Just throw it out in the back yard and watch it turn into something of value.

By UGAH is GAY

February 8, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Will no one hold the speculators who lied on their loan applications responsible? These liars should not get any kind of rebate - Do you remember the story about the Long Island cocktail parties in which hundreds of spec homes were “sold” to long island investors who swore on loan applications that they were buying the houses to live in? They put nothing down, the builder handled all expenses, and when the house was completed in 12 to 24 months, the liar house owner was guaranteed 30 to 60 thousand dollars profit. Some of the Long Island Liars filed papers for ten or more of these to be Owner Occuppied houses. Now the houses cannot be sold, so the Liars are trying to walk away, scot free..HOLD THEM FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL DEBTS ON THESE OTHERWISE NON RECOURSE LOANS, THEY COMMITTED FRAUD AND ARE TRYING TO STICK YOU AND ME WITH THE BILL. Attach their assets, including any and all pensions: if they do not agree, file criminal fraud charges, and put them in prison, with the other liars…

By Si Se Puede

February 8, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

D.A. King come out come out wherever you are you convicted felon that talks about “criminals”. The convicted felon gambler that did not pay taxes on his ill gotten gains that talks about people not paying their taxes. What happened to your boy Romney D.(4dumb}A.(4azz) King? Immgration reform is right around the corner King. Get ready to enjoy the company of all your newly legalized Mexican brothers. Get ready to get a real job. Your days as the white Jesse Jackson are over. Go meet your fellow Klansman and butt buddy, Chip Rogers and cry in your Budweiser beer. Now you can STFU, loser.

By Glenn

February 8, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

MAT, yeah, and I thought your use of ethology brilliant too. Mel’s great on wolves. See his papers on wolves. They’re great. Condi knows him, BTW.

Diogenes,

Your right again, you bloody cynic.

Spaceman,

So are you, in my book.

By Dusty

February 8, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Well, Jim Wooten, your “fluid” was a flood this morning. So many issues. So little time.

Everybody’s trying to sort it out. Me too!! (Don’t correct my grammar. I like it.)

I voted for McCain. I support McCain. Just skip the propaganda.

Cut taxes any way possible.

Save Grady.

I am not interested in the behavior of baboons. We have the comics of the human race to watch.

Midsouth Phil is a liberal but doesn’t know it yet.

Drunkards in our state legislature?? Really?? Joke??

Huckabee is a nice guy. But….we don’t need another Jimmy Carter.

Did I miss anything? Swimming pools!! Don’t we have a water shortage? I’d rather have enough to drink than paddle in a puddle.

Tancredo and jbmlaw going on VACATION? How will we manage? Bon voyage!!

By spaceman109

February 8, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

glenn,

diogenes’ comment about the republicans treating the voters with contempt ties right in with my comment about how they think that opponents of their policies are stupid.

sometimes, glenn, one wonders if you have drunk too deeply of that republican national committee koolaid.

i am by nature a conservative; however, the republican party stopped being truly conservative when they attained power in the congress and (in 2001) the white house. when persident bush came into office, the newt gingrich contract with america was implicitly declared by him and his advisors to be null, void, and not applicable to them.

the one and only reason i would vote for mccain is to keep that woman out of the white house. she truly believes that america is great only because of government.

By UGAH is GAY

February 8, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

Dusty, we don’t allow fat, old, wrinkled hags in our community swimming pool, so you ain’t got a dog in this swimming pool fillin’ fight.

By Glenn

February 8, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

OneFer,

In Sacramento one of two escape tunnels runs from the Capitol basement to the basement of the offices of the Supreme Court and the State Treasurer. The tunnels were begun in the ’30s, when things got riotous (e.g. the near revolution in S.F.) and, sometime later, when the War loomed. In the pleasant (for the right people) 1950s the tunnels were blocked off.

Then came the Panthers and the Yippies and the Weathermen and the Family, and the two Gun Rooms once again were fully stocked and the tunnels opened for business. When things died down, shut again.

A few years ago, shortly before 9/11, a deranged truck driver drove his rig into the South Facade of the old Historic Capitol, killing himself and injuring some staffers while destroying a good portion of that stately old cathouse.

At that point I happened to have a casual conversation with the man in charge of the Supreme Court building, at tunnel’s end. Did you reopen the tunnels? I asked him. His reply: “Hell no. That’s a one-way BS pipe. We don’t want their flush!”

By GaVoter

February 8, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Glenn,

A side note to yesterday’s exchange. One thing about being a moderate — you have to pass through there to get to either extreme. So, if you have extremists — of opposing views — that are simply set in their ways (not that such persons are really known to exist), sometimes a moderate can help bring them together. That can be a good thing as long as the moderator does not hand out weapons at the door.

Also, I did make a brief visit to Gilligan’s isle where I found only some resemblance to her stages. Perhaps necessary (that’s for others to debate) but not sufficient. Thanks for all the info. though. I plan to take another gander at Gingrich as well.

By Glenn

February 8, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

Hi GaVoter. Cool. Cool. She rejects “priciple” -based ethics as artificial and even gymnastic male constructs. She proposed what Noddings has dubbed “an ethic of care” instead.

By Tom

February 8, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

Hey Glenn: Just so’s ya know—“racist” and “bigot” are not covered under the “fighting words” doctrine in law, no matter what it says “in [your] book.” In a most foolish fashion, you have simple misstated the law.

By getalife

February 8, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Looks like rush has gone back to being an entertainer and not a leader of the cons.

He said he would fundraise for Hillary.

Now that is funny but not as funny as cons actually believing anything this drug addicted chicken hawk spews.

Lets face it, cons are easily punked and very gullible.

By RealRep

February 8, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

President Bush supports John McCain. With this move, real conservatives must cringe.

Four more years of liberal spending?

Four more years of failed foreign policy?

Four more years of turning our backs on hard working American families?

Four more years of amnesty for ILLEGAL aliens?

While the resiliency of the United States could possibly weather four years of John McCain, there is no doubt his election would mean the death of the Republican Party.

Real Conservatives know this – as do the independents.

A vote for McCain is a vote for Hillary.

Huckabee ‘08

By Camus

February 8, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Contrary to the imagination of RealRep, Bush did not endorse McCain any more than Romney did. They both pointedly excluded direct endorsement, falling back on the “support the eventual nominee” construction.

By getalife

February 8, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

When the gop gets fundraising, they steal it

Hilarious.

By jbmlaw

February 8, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

Dear Shar @ 9:22 and Dusty @ 11:06, thanks for kind thoughts, perhaps in two weeks I’ll be totally unwound and easier to get along with. Mrs. jbmlaw has 12 pages of places to go and things for us to do.

Dear Glenn @ 9:28, thanks, high praise indeed. You and our friend Shar offer great focus on the Grady issue.

Dear Tom @ 11:38, I think your argument is a loser.

By Political Foreskin

February 8, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

Even among baboons, editors matter. A study of yellow baboons living near Kenya’s Mount Kilimanjaro finds that 1000 females given 1000 typewriter and allowed to type for 1000 hours produced most of the blogs appearing here. It is reader cruelty to blog on this site intentionally without an editor. That’s the disadvantage inflicted on 70% of journalists. No ignore feature can ever equal a caring editor.

This conservative base that Wooten laments does not exist. He’s writing for a handful of elitists. There’s no America that would vote for the mythical 7-issue candidate, (gods, guns, gays, illegals, taxes, abortion and Iraq) anymore. That America is gone. So Wooten hits bottom with a baboon/hispanic/black comparison - lashing out for being wrong about every turn in this election cycle - and firing the last salvo from the obsolete right. Romney caught him with his pants down, and he reverts to his jim crow alter-ego.

You have no country, sir. There is no room for the haters. Just leave. Just go. (ghandi)

As usual, Wooten’s antebellum taunt escapes every single one of you uber-pudwits. What was I saying about baboons with typewriters?

By Vasily D'Efferins

February 8, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

Republicans better hope the opposing candiate is Clinton because Obama will immune from serious criticism or questioning.

By John

February 8, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Obama will lose to republicans in Georgia whether they play the race card like they did on the Clintons or not. They will try to make anything said about Obama that is not positive racist, so be ready for it.

By OneForTheRoad

February 8, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

There will soon be a new energy converter available for those inclined to take a hike. Yep! You just strap it around the knee and off you go. Might want one on each knee just to help maintain some balance, walk in a straight line, and what not. The word is that once equipped with enough of these devices, million-man marches will be transformed into million kilowatt-hour marches. They may even have enough power at that point to be reckoned with. A good marching slogan could be “You Light Up My Life” or “We March to the Beat of a Different Drum”. But, that’s just the energizer talking.

By Craig

February 8, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

John you’re absolutely right. You can see it on the AJC blogs already. From people at this blog who use “Obama/Osama”, then chuckle about it; all the way to the real wackos who insist that because his father was a Muslim that he must be also.

So yeah, Dems need to be ready for the slime. The good news is that I think people are becoming increasingly tired of that kind of nonsense. (But the repubs will keep trying - that’s all they have this year…)

By UGAH is GAY

February 8, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Lies and Liars led to this financial disaster, the same old story under a new cover. Will no one hold the speculators who lied on their loan applications responsible? These liars should not get any kind of rebate - Do you remember the story about the Long Island cocktail parties in which hundreds of spec homes were “sold” to long island investors who swore on loan applications that they were buying the houses to live in? They put nothing down, the builder handled all expenses, and when the house was completed in 12 to 24 months, the liar house owner was guaranteed 30 to 60 thousand dollars profit. Some of the Long Island Liars filed papers for ten or more of these to be Owner Occuppied houses. Now the houses cannot be sold, so the Liars are trying to walk away, scot free..HOLD THEM FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL DEBTS ON THESE OTHERWISE NON RECOURSE LOANS, THEY COMMITTED FRAUD AND ARE TRYING TO STICK YOU AND ME WITH THE BILL. Attach their assets, including any and all pensions: if they do not agree, file criminal fraud charges, and put them in prison, with the other liars…

By Georgia is a criminal regime

February 8, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

It is past time to get rid of its criminal “leaders”.

Start with the criminals Jerry Keen, Eric Johnson, David Ralston, Steve Davis, and John Wiles. Then move on to the second level criminals.

These people are a danger to the state of Georgia. They are beyond arrogant to the point that they routinely ignore the advice of all subject matter experts. They actually think they know better.

Get rid of them.

By Tom

February 8, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Say there, jbmlaw, just to take a quick snippet from the US DOJ’s Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section’s advisory paper,

“Fighting Words”

For similar reasons, racist speech on the Internet — even when it is directed toward a specific victim — is unlikely to fit within the “fighting words” exception to the First Amendment. Under that principle, our government may punish that limited class of speech “likely to provoke the average person to retaliation, and thereby cause a breach of the peace.” Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568, 574 (1942).

Because this exception, which has rarely been invoked in the past five decades of American law, is founded on the risk of immediate physical violence, it is hard to imagine its application to cyberspace. Potential antagonists have no physical contact whatsoever in the online sphere, and indeed may be separated by hundreds or thousands of miles in the physical world.”

End quote from DOJ. And that’s with reference to e.g. actual racial epithets, not descriptive/evaluative terms such as “racist.”

Uh, jbmlaw, you do disclose to your clients your utter lack of even elementary skills at legal research and analysis, don’t you?

By getalife

February 8, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

Well, it looks like the reality is going to be Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton to keep all the Dem voters engaged in the general.

McInsane/Gomer for the wingnuts voters to stay engaged in the general.

By Jackie

February 8, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

The Repubs tried to make things complicated when they voted for Obama. They are hoping that folks who have their same “conservative tendencies” will rise up vote for McCain. Be it Obama or Hillary, the Dems will beat on the Repubs like a drum in the election. The roadmap was constructed by Ronald Reagan and was misread by Dubya, leaving them where they are today. A $3 trillion dollar budget; a $1 Trillion dollar occupation - and counting; record budget deficits with no chance of a budget balance until 2012; a military that the Joint Chiefs of Staff says is on the brink of breaking; record numbers of suicides among our troops; a lack of care for our returning troops, many of whom have to pay for their own care; an administration that admits to allowing torture of prisoners and trying to find legal cover for it; an administration that has used the politics of fear to maintain its election posture and fails to govern in the spirit of “all of us being in this together”; a Senate that constantly blocks help to the citizens (Repubs refusal to extend unemployment benefits and other assistance to help alleviate the effects of this failed trickle-down economy. The list could go on and on and on. The conclusion to this saga will take place in November and the neo-cons will be banished to the political hinterlands. Good riddance!!!!

By UGAH is GAY

February 8, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Tom - You are absolutely right - In addition, since the ajc holds the path to our true identies, releasing such would make Cox Enterpirses and the AJC complicit in any violent crime committed…Food for thought, WoodenHead….(Ah guess Dusty’s nose is safe as long as Jim does not tell anyone that her real name is Cindy and that she works at 101 Marietta Tower, Suite 101…) opps…

By AmVet

February 8, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Best moniker of the day?

Quit Romney - by deegee in that great 10:46.

Only two little Indian boys left and there’s a sermon awaiting one of them in Hope.

By UGAH is GAY

February 8, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Tom, you asked “Uh, jbmlaw, you do disclose to your clients your utter lack of even elementary skills at legal research and analysis, don’t you?” Since jmb has run away to hide, I will answer for the quack lawyer: He is not aware of his utter failure to understand elementary legal principles, Ignorance of the Law is his defense.

By Question

February 8, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

The GOP has had the Presidency for getting on 8 years. The Congress was controlled 100 percent by the GOP from 2000-2006.

And now we hear Wooten telling the GOP they need to define themselves?

They have had more than enough time to demonstrate to the country that GOP is the way to go. And SOMEHOW, the country does not seem to be buying.

Why is that?

By Joe Bland

February 8, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

I see my wife is posting on this blog, now. Just mean and nasty.

By ray

February 8, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

if mccain has the ability to ‘inspire’, as he has proclaimed, why then must he throw money at the people in the form of tax cuts? real leadership gets followers to sacrifice. guess it’s a good thing most of the GOP base still thinks the fish cause the tides.

By UGAH is GAY

February 8, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

Lies and Liars led to this disaster in the financial markets, and many of their names ended in -stein, the same old story under a new cover. Will no one hold the speculators who lied on their loan applications responsible? These liars should not get any kind of rebate - Do you remember the story about the Long Island cocktail parties in which hundreds of spec homes were “sold” to long island investors who swore on loan applications that they were buying the houses to live in? They put nothing down, the builder handled all expenses, and when the house was completed in 12 to 24 months, the liar house owner was guaranteed 30 to 60 thousand dollars profit. Some of the Long Island Liars filed papers for ten or more of these to be Owner Occuppied houses. Now the houses cannot be sold, so the Liars are trying to walk away, scot free..HOLD THEM FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL DEBTS ON THESE OTHERWISE NON RECOURSE LOANS, THEY COMMITTED FRAUD AND ARE TRYING TO STICK YOU AND ME WITH THE BILL. Attach their assets, including any and all pensions: if they do not agree, file criminal fraud charges, and put them in prison, with the other liars…

By getalife

February 8, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

“GOP electoral scheme dies in California”

Nice try to cheat losers.

By OneForTheRoad

February 8, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

ray@2:15,

Of course fish cause tides. Have you seen the size of those bottom feeding cats in Lanier? One splash of that tail fin will create a Lanier Tsunami. How’s that for making waves.

By Dusty

February 8, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

UGAY @11:15

If you swim in the community pool, I wouldn’t want to paddle in THAT puddle anyway.

UGAY @1:49

So I work for AJC and my real name is Cindy. OK. Send paytcheck ASAP (matching Jim Wooten’s millions, please.)

To all other “sky-is-falling” folks which includes 99.9% libs:

Cheer up!

After McCain is elected, you can start your legal debates on how illegal was his election. You’ve had a lot of practice at this. No reason to stop now. See!! Something you can plan for the future. Now SMILE!!

By jbmlaw

February 8, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Dear Tom @ 1:36, you need to re-read your 11:38 post to understand why your case is inapposite. It does not address your ludicrous 11:38 argument, which is still a loser. Nice try to shift the landscape, but your 11:38 argument remains false. Misrepresentations, such as your 1:36, are the main reasons untrained people are not allowed to practice law.

By Dusty

February 8, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw@2:44

I think I saw the 1:36 picture of Tom on TV. He said “If you hurt your pinkie while lifting a tomato in the store, please call me. I will get your fair share of millions for this injustice. Just call Tom!”

Ooops, I’m sorry. That was Edwards. No…Hillary at Rose Law Firm? Obama at Harvard Law? Nawww It was Tom, Tom the liberal one, sorta fussy and not much fun.

By Copyleft

February 8, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Dusty: We’re already cheerful… we’re guaranteed to win, and the GOP is moving away from radical-right stupidity at top speed.

America’s a better place already. So YOU might want to buy some anti-depressants, because a better, more moderate country’s a-comin’. (Don’t worry, we promise to respect YOUR rights, even if you never did ours. That’s why we’re better than you.)

By Copyleft

February 8, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

Dumber attack than usual, Dusty, even for you. Most presidential candidates (including Huckabee and Romney) are lawyers, as are most governors and members of Congress.

If you’re gonna spit on lawyers, you’ll get a lot of slime all over your favorite GOP slimeballs… who will probably enjoy it.

By Tom

February 8, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

That’s quite comical, jbmlaw. You are aware of the very first sentence of Georgia Rule of Professional Conduct Rule 1.1, aren’t you? If not, direct your clients to me, and I’ll help acquaint them with it.

By catlady

February 8, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

The board of Grady has had over 6 months to get it done. They have NO intention of doing so. It is past High Time that the state take over this debacle. Unfortunately (a la Ga Lottery Commission and their “rewards” system for doing their jobs) if the state takes over the graft and corruption will continue, perhaps with different players.

By Redneck Convert

February 8, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

Well, we had a awful time at the trailer last night. Joe Bill went off when he learnt this Mormon Romney had dropped out and give the nomination to this librul McCain. He was yelling like a crazy man and saying he was going to go jump off of a bridge and how it wasn’t fair for a man to have to choose between two libruls in the election.

The Rev. Jim Bob Buice finally come over to comfort him. He couldn’t come earlier on account of little Sonny Zell George was home and the state won’t let him near kids.

Anyhow, we cheered Joe Bill up when we all decided we would write in old Newt for president. We all wanted to write in My President but Jim Earl says it would be a big waste because he can’t hold the office again. Jim Earl is going to find out how we write people in at the polls.

Glad to hear jbmlaw is going on vacation. If he would take Sister Dusty and this Duh with him we would all have some peace for a couple weeks.

By Dusty

February 8, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

Copyleft @3:10

I don’t take anti-depressants. I’m not a liberal. I see you’ve taken yours. Now don’t overdose. You are already hallucinating a bit.

As Jim might have said “I aint got no angst!” He’s not a lib either.

By Jim Earl

February 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

I can’t quit you.

By Copyleft

February 8, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

As usual, JBMLaw is wrong on the law.

The only Supreme Court case that touched specifically on insults of race, gender, sexuality, etc., was *R.A.V. vs St. Paul” in 1992, in which the Court struck down an ordnance regulating “speech on the basis of content.” The field where “fighting words” are unprotected continues to narrow, in case after case since its establishment in ‘49.

So your smug claim of a “right” to physically attack anyone who dares to point out your bigotry is revealed as what we’ve come to expect from you and your so-called “law” degree: hot air.

By Jackie

February 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

It seems that the women of Southern Iraq are beginning to be treated like the women of Afghanistan. News reports indicate that women are being killed, beheaded, scared and have limbs amputated because they did not adhere to strict Islamic code. Wearing makeup and not having a headscarf brought about this wrath. Strange, this type of behavior was not tolerated under Saddam. Matter of fact, the Iraq’s, the birthplace of modern civilization (Mesopotamia), had about 40% of the government composed of women; had the highest education level of any country in the Middle East; many women were engineers and technical professionals. What shall we do now to put this back in the bottle? How much will it cost us in treasure and lives? How long will we have to be there to make this country whole? How will be pay for it and how will it impact our quality of life?

By OneForTheRoad

February 8, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

The world is healing its wounds slowly but surely. Afghanistan’s economy is already booming. There seems to be a large world-wide demand for buns covered with poppy seeds. They’re all the rage these days. As for Iraq, well well well. At least that’s what they need to be thinking more about — more oil wells. That won’t quite be enough though. They will need refineries. There’s a big demand for gasoline all across the area. Iran is more than willing to subsidize the entire industry. They’ll pay for it by selling nuclear power to the Iraqis. In fact, Iran was considering giving some nuclear power to Israel. Of course, it would be up to Israel to figure out how to harness it.

By Dusty

February 8, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Copyleft @3:31

As usual, Copyleft has given us the wrong copy, the incorrect “facts”.

So you think that Huckabee and Romney are LAWYERS? ATTORNEYS??

Since when? Huck graduated from a seminary and Romney has an MBA. You know. “B” stands for business, not law.

Like I said, keep going with your free speech hallucinations. It is the laxity of liberals on display.

By deegee

February 8, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Jackie, The Iraqis were going to greet us as liberators and follow us like we were the Pied Piper. Problem is that Rumsfeld and Bush didn’t think past the first 48 hours of a post-Saddam Iraq. The Brits tried to tell the White House that their approach was wrong. They didn’t want to hear it. It has taken years, billions of US dollars and thousands of destroyed human lives to come to the stark realization that the jubilant purple finger of democracy meant something very different to the Shia majority of Iraq than it did to us.

By Vandstra

February 8, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Jackie, Do you think the average American really cares about the plight of the Iraqi women? I am not trying to challenge your comment, I am just making a process statement. I don’t think many Americans cared about the situation of Iraqi women pre-war. Now that our economy is weak, I don’t think people really give a care, especially those that approve of the war and are willing to write it off as the cost of no longer having Saddam in power. We kicked over that ant pile and things will never be the same again. But as long as we don’t have to see it from the comfort of our homes, no one cares. I don’t condone it. It is the way the American mind works.

By Jackie

February 8, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

@deegee

There are folks that STILL believe that Saddam was a part of 9/11 and refuse to believe that the USA is an occupying force. How many amongst us do not understand that 70% of the Iraqs do not have access to clean water and have less electricity and food than when Saddam was in power. The unemployment rate for Iraqi men is more than 50%, leading to less life essentials. We are paying off the Sunnis to keep the attacks under control. These items have been reported in the news and have been acknowledged by the Pentagon. I wonder if the apologists will label the professional US military as “cowards?”

By Jeff Hill

February 8, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten you people really nedd to understand something that was taught to me by my Politcal Science Prefessor, Dr. Frank McComb, many years ago: People Vote their pocketbook and most people don’t like corruption.

The Republican Party has become the party of Corruption and $3 per gallon gas, which is not abated due to a corrupt relationship between the Bush Republicans and the Oil folks. Ergo DIckero Chaney.

Face it the Boomers have woke up. Dumb as they are remember Linclon’s old antidote? Can’t fool everyone all of the time, even stupid people.

By Dusty

February 8, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

Deegee & Jackie,

Do you two go around with sacks over your heads or what?

Afghanistan had a Taliban government which practicaaly enslaved women. They had no rights. Now the Taliban government is not longer in power and women move up in that world. Hospitals have been built to decrease the deaths of women in childbirth and educational facilities are open to them. They progress.

But the idea that Saddam in Iraq was “good” to women is idiotic. True that he threw them in mass graves with everybody else after they had been raped and tortured. He gassed the Kurds by the village..men, women & children. Haven’t you seen the pictures? But, according to you two he was a prince of a fellow.

As to the militant S**, they have been told by their leader to stop the violence. He just told them that again. Iraq is rising to its potential and we are helping them.The British have fought and stalized part of the country. Why don’t you two ever read the facts from Iraq? There is some GOOD news coming now.

By OMG I get it!!

February 8, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

Joe Bland @ 8:44, that’s what Bill Murray whispered to Scarlett Johansen in Lost in Translation! I read that a lot earlier and it just hit me. Good one!

By Jackie

February 8, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

@Dusty,

I wonder why you have a problem with reading and rationalization. I had an “old man” explain to me that there is a difference between IGNORANCE and STUPIDITY. IGNORANCE - when you are not aware of the facts and you believe your thesis is correct. STUPID- when you are aware of the facts and continue to believe the facts are not correct. The depth and breadth of your stupidity is stunning, spectacular and breathtaking.

By Chip

February 8, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

Dirt Ball: so we invaded Afghanistan to free women from those nasty sacks over their heads? Oh, it Friday, soon to be night, ergo a sack over your head lies in your future, wifely duties and all, right?

By Joe Bland

February 8, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Dusty excelled in the three Rs: readin’, writin’ and rationalization.

By getalife

February 8, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

cpac is the new People’s Temple cult.

“During his speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) this morning, President Bush told the crowd of raucous right-wing activists that he “appreciates the fact that” they “invited Vice President Cheney” to speak. Between intermittent cheers of “four more years,” Bush told the crowd, Cheney “is the best vice president in history.”

A suicide pact drinking the kool aid.

Unbelievable.

By Dusty

February 8, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

Jackie, Chip and Joe,

Whatsa matter? You can’t tell me why you disagree with me? Still typing out the ol’ namecalling and propaganda? You bet. That is all you are capable of doing.

You libs really hate it when President Bush’s decisions on Iraq are being justified while you three and others cringe at home.

Now you push Obama, the great anti-war hero. You can have him. McCain is going to be President.

By jbmlaw

February 8, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

Dear Copyleft @ 3:31, you and Tom need to stay away from those online “get your law degree in 90 days” courses. If you are able to read Tom’s ludicrous post, you will realize no statute is suggested or involved in the dispute.

By Joe Bland

February 8, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

Chamber of Commerce Republican (Jim’s definition) here. I’m just ashamed someone so dense is on our team, Dusty.

By jbmlaw

February 8, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

Dear Jeff @ 4:17, how would your apt analysis be affected by (a) a 50 cent drop in the price of gasoline before the election, or (2) a democrat proposal to ensure the population suffers the largest tax increase in the history of the world?

By Jackie

February 8, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

@Dusty,

It is impossible to present rational facts to you, therefore, you lead me to believe that is “impossible to rationalize with an idiot.” That leads me to believe that regardless of what is written by anyone other than Rush, you find it to be invalid. For a person with an advanced degree, one has to wonder how you managed to obtain that? I would encourage you to seek a professional to give you help.

By Glenn

February 8, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

Tom @ 11:38,

Hey Tom, just so you know: there is no list of fighting words, only legal definitions, and what it boils down to is that you ever, ever call me a racist to my face, in my county there is not a jury that will hold me responsible for laying you out. That is the doctrine. The same doctrine says that you can pull that crap in Brooklyn, but not here. You evidently are unfamiliar with the concept of jurisprudential doctrine, test and definitional construction.

You’re also unfamiliar with what is and is not off limits in this immediately present space.

My warning to you served a legal purpose, and it has accomplished that purpose. Your actions from here are legally actions, and aforethought.

By jbmlaw

February 8, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

Dear Tom, Glenn’s analysis of “fighting words” is fully consistent with my understanding. Tom, I still think your argument is a loser.

By sunshine and thunder

February 8, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

John McCain’s name is on the first, overt congressional violation of the First Amendment. He and the other congressmen/women who passed that legislation violated their sworn duty to defend the Constitution. They should be put on trial or, at the very least, recalled from office, NOT elected president.

By Glenn

February 8, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

Good Lord, jbm. Thanks, but just ignore it. Who can help it if this twerp wants to tiptoe out onto the bunny slopes of Chaplinsky and think that he’s on the Black Diamond run of Con Law?

No need to Tuck this one into bed. The paper doesn’t give a damn about First Amendment Law anyway, unless it’s got a cash-loaded gun to its head. (They’re even stupid enough to think that the PF Doctrine vindicates actual malice.)

As long as he stays out of our faces, let him dangle unprotected thinking there’s a net.

Play spider.

By Dusty

February 8, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Jackie@5:18

Your “facts” are simple recounts of every bad thing that has happened in current events. You have never mentioned a positive thing. Many positive events are happening. You are a one sided worry wart of gloom. That is called paranoia. I hope you are getting help and I think you have already tried. Please keep on. You have a way to go.

By jbmlaw

February 8, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

Dear Sunshine @ 5:51, some wag suggested that the appropriate “litmus test” for McCain’s judicial nominees should be, “do you agree that McCain Feingold is unconstitutional?”

By jbmlaw

February 8, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

Dear Glenn @ 5:52, shoot, I was enjoying baiting the kid. I assumed it’s just a high school senior playing out of his league. Have a great weekend

By Mid-South Philosopher

February 8, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

Dusty@11:06

I have had to contribute to this rousing Bush economy today, Dusty, so I am late in responding. However, the notion that I am a liberal (but just doesn’t know it) is interesting to me.

Let’s see now.

I support the death penalty.

I believe the Second Amendment means what it says.

I am pro-life, but not anti-abortion.

I think we ought to beat the living sh*t out of every Islamist fanatic on the globe.

I am in favor of low taxes and equally low spending.

I think the federal government ought to get out of my classroom, my bedroom, my doctor’s office, my church, my lodge, and my bar.

I believe Georgie Bush is the greatest fake that was ever promulgated on the American people and had he not opposed the Islamist fanatics, his greatest achievement would have been to create a demand for toilet tissue in the White House.

Yep, I must be a liberal.

By deegee

February 8, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

Dusty, no need to put quotes around facts. Here’s a link to an article describing something positive that is coming out of the Iraq experience. The U.S. military have analyzed the situation in Afghanistan and Iraq, and have made some recommendations as to how to avoid repeating the same types of mistakes made by Rumsfeld/Bush/Cheney.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/08/america/military.php

By Glenn

February 8, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

Aloha, my friend!

By Tom

February 9, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

Thanks for the warning, Glenn. If I ever make it down to Hahira, I’ll be on the lookout for your mud-spattered conversion van and stay out of your way.

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