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DEL.ICIO.USHeadlong rush to endorse McCain is risky
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The political herd’s rush to John McCain is intended to create a stampede of inevitability before the obvious becomes evident: Most Republicans are not buying.
On the last weekend before today’s Super Tuesday primary in Georgia and 20 other states, an InsiderAdvantage poll in Georgia and Tennessee revealed that more than half of Republican voters want a conservative. In Georgia, 58 percent pick one of the two GOP candidates who have fashioned their campaigns to appeal to conservatives.
In Georgia, 30 percent preferred Mitt Romney and 28 percent Mike Huckabee. McCain got 29 percent. In Tennessee, Huckabee (30 percent) and Romney (22 percent) split the conservative base. McCain gets 32.
The actual results are just hours away — and indeed the stampede that included Georgia’s two U.S. senators, Johnny Isakson and Saxby Chambliss, may well succeed. So far, however, it has succeeded in getting them accused of clubbiness in endorsing a colleague. U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey of Marietta, one of the four Georgia congressmen endorsing Romney, brushed it off as a reflection of “a close-knit club on the Senate side.”
Added Romney’s Georgia campaign co-chairman, Eric Tannenblatt: “I look at this as an endorsement of someone they serve with rather than someone who shares their values.”
Their endorsement does involve some risk, especially to Chambliss, who is up for re-election this year. McCain has plenty of time to convince conservatives that he is the more electable and that he will be true to the promise he made to supporters Saturday at the Cobb Galleria. That promise, second in importance only to a promise not to beat a hasty retreat from Iraq, is this:
“I will try to find clones of [Justices Samuel] Alito and [John] Roberts,” McCain vowed. Since Justice John Paul Stevens will be 88 when the next president is sworn in and Ruth Bader Ginsberg will be 75 — in fact, six of the nine will be 69 or older — President Bush’s successor is likely to fix the direction of the next court for decades to come. Of the current 5-4 majority, 75 is the average age. Of the minority, it’s just over 60.
A pledge to find clones of the Bush appointees, combined with late October evidence of electability, would sweep away most conservative objections to McCain — and therefore any ill will remaining among Georgia Republicans to Chambliss’ decision to weigh in with a McCain endorsement before Super Tuesday.
If all does not go well and McCain either doesn’t get the nomination or shows poorly in the general election contest, Chambliss will find himself in a serious race — assuming Georgia Democrats nominate a mainstream candidate, a fairly wild assumption at the moment.
Hillary Clinton can’t carry Georgia either in November or, based on the polls, today. Obama, however, would have a shot. Over the past seven years, more than 200,000 blacks have registered to vote, compared with about 95,000 whites. Whites were 72 percent of the electorate in 2001, 66 percent today. More than half of the 42,000 new voters who registered for Super Tuesday are minorities — 37 percent of them blacks.
While there’s a near-zero chance that Democrats could retake the state House and Senate, Obama as the nominee would make Georgia very competitive. The possibility of electing the first black president would most certainly swell turnout among Democrats. Chambliss needs every voter he can get, and especially those drawn to Huckabee and Romney, the two presidential candidates he didn’t endorse.
While Senate collegiality and a desire to wrap it up quickly may have prompted both Chambliss and Isakson to embrace McCain over the weekend, those on the ballot in November would be stronger had they all allowed the primaries to play themselves out.
It may be tidy to wrap it up in February. It may serve to distance February’s ill will from November’s turnout-crucial election.
But as the nation saw with an abortion conflict never satisfactorily concluded because of premature court intervention, it’s rarely wise to stampede the political process.
Comments
By Barry Goldwater
February 5, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
Wootie, you’ve got some weird breaks all through your essay this morning, making it hard to read.
However, to claim, as you do, that McCain is not a conservative, is ridiculous. The differences between him and some of the others is fairly small, something like the gap between a regular Baptist and a hardshell Baptist.
By Saxby Chambliss
February 5, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
No sir, I think I just might have to take offense at that remark about what you all call “clubbiness”. I know John McCain to be a war hero and a Great American. I have stood with him in the Senate lounges, and am proud to call him my friend now. He cares deeply for all Georgians, and has proved that he would lay down his life for this country. He doesn’t like earmarks, but then again he may be right about that. Some of us haven’t decided that one.
But John McCain has, because he’s decisive, that one is. He’s been voted Most Decisive on more than one occasion by those of us fortunate enough to belong to the most exclusive club in the world, the United States Senate. Ninety-nine Members, plus my friend John. And John McCain is a true conservative, too. Did I mention Ronald Reagan? John knew the man.
So I sure hope you’ll see fit to cast your ballot today for my friend John McCain.
This has been a paid announcement.
By jbmlaw
February 5, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. I never did get around to voting last week, and now I’m glad I did not. I had intended to cast a meaningless vote for Fred, since he most accurately reflects my views. Now that the race is tight, however, I see a chance to tweak both of our wish-washy senators. Mrs. jbmlaw sent me an email a few minutes ago, asking me to not vote until she gets off work, so she can go too. Last night she offered the same observation I gave last week, that there was something Nixonian about Mr. McCain; when I told her the race was close in Georgia and that I was accordingly voting for Mitt, her face brightened. (She was also a Fred supporter, and seemingly had gone through the same calculus as I.) So, Jim Wooten, I suppose you brought a couple of us over to the dark side.
By jbmlaw
February 5, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this
Hey Barry @ 8:36, I think Jim just decided to write in free-verse today. You are fundamentally right, about McCain not being too different from decent conservatives; he has been a bit unreliable, however. For now I do not so-charge Mitt.
By Copyleft
February 5, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this
Don’t worry TOO much about your primary-season choices, Republicans.
After all, you’re just picking a guy to lose to the Democrats this November. Not that big a deal.
By RealRep
February 5, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this
While Mike remains concerned about John McCain’s ability to physically endure a demanding primary, he wishes him well today, for he is the only other Republican in the race.
A vote for Romney is a vote for Hillary.
Huckabee ‘08
By OneForTheRoad
February 5, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
Jim,
I admit that Ron Paul has about as much chance of winning the Presidential election as you or I do. After all, he who stands on principle these days gets what — funny looks, scorn, ridicule. Sad. I think it is sad that you choose not to at least acknowledge that he is still on the ballot and that he has not withdrawn. Has he? How ‘bout it, Jim? An asterisk; afterthought; anything?
By Harry Jaffa
February 5, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
Now, now, General. You’d best take your medication and go back to playing with your Kachina dolls. The sun is about to come up over Camelback, and you don’t want to go the way of old John. You’re sunbaked enough as it is.
The man’s done his best to undo your legacy in Arizona, and now he’s fixed his sights on the Oval office. Just remember, General, marry your voice to the conscience of a conservative.
Thank you again for the delightful dinner last week. We enjoyed your colorful remarks about gays in the military.
By deegee
February 5, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
“In Georgia, 58 percent pick one of the two GOP candidates who have fashioned their campaigns to appeal to conservatives.”
Isn’t is nice to know that 58 percent of Georgians are impressed by campaign bullcrap?
By Disgusted
February 5, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this
It is hard to see how this nation will survive unless we elect a strong conservative to replace our Adored Leader, George W. Bush, as president.
If a pantywaist, free-spending liberal replaces him, we might soon see a Supreme Court that tends to common people’s needs, rather than those of business. There might even be an effort to start balancing the federal budget and paying off the national debt, with the attendant crash of the economy caused by a return of jobs to the United States.
Our American dollar might no longer be used as substitute monopoly money. Unions might start causing trouble again, insisting on the nonsense notion of workers’ rights. The IRS would start stealing again from us hard-working, economically advantaged citizens, while the common rabble would start gobbling up the proceeds. We could see the perpetuation of the estate tax and thus have to forego the ability to pass off $50 million or so to our progeny tax-free. Why, we might even have to pay taxes at the same rate as unworthy common people!
Hard as it is to imagine, just about anybody might be able to visit a doctor, thus helping to ensure the longevity of the scum that tend to vote Democratic. The undocumented aliens we like to exploit to save a few bucks on wages might be forced to identify themselves and pursue a path toward citizenship. There might be no way for us to hide, for let’s admit the truth: it is very convenient to complain about porous borders while we use illegal labor to enhance our profits and undercut wages.
Worst of all, our troops might be forced to come home. A liberal president would probably force the various factions of the Iraqi government to reconcile and agree upon sharing of power and oil revenues, under threat of our withdrawal. We would see all our efforts to install a Shiite theocracy go for naught, and now-unemployed, marauding Blackwater security guards would return to our country in tens of thousands.
While I oppose McCain, at least I see that his promise to keep our troops in Iraq for 100 years might forestall some of the trouble we would encounter with a Democrat in the White House. And at the very least he promises that there will be more wars, and he hints at an attack on Iran. I acknowledge that it troubles me greatly to have a volatile leader with an explosive temper so close to the nuclear codes—as one senator puts it, “McCain does not play nice in the sandbox.” Still, it would be better to see this country go down the tubes than to see Obama or another Clinton in the White House.
And so, although I agree with the sentiments of Rush and Ann, together with their acolyte Wooten, about McCain, I might be forced to hold my nostrils shut and vote for McCain if he secures the nomination.
Sometimes, when you find an abandoned purse on the street, you reach inside and find—not money, but manure, put there by the malign hand of Fate. That, I fear, is the sad situation we righteous Republicans find ourselves in today.
By OneForTheRoad
February 5, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
Sorry, Disgusted. You see G.W. has already had 8 years to get it right so we cannot put him back in office again. It’s not our fault that he chose Dick as his VP and thus left us with no one to carry on his legacy. Also, G.W. has no one other than himself to blame for not grooming his betrothed for the stately office. So, we are stuck where we are today because of G.W.
By E. B. White
February 5, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
“Disgusted”:
In English belletristic literature, seven satirical devices await your stylistic use.
Pray use them.
By jbmlaw
February 5, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
I had missed Jim’s little joke about the Supreme Court, sticking the unreliable Kennedy in with the Stevens-Souter-Ginsberg-Breyer coalition. Kennedy is McCainesque.
By Ron
February 5, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
Jim,Grasping at straws?I thought the abortion debate had been concluded with Roe vs. Wade.If you Get Huckabee to go away,maybe Mitt wins.At the Republican convention,maybe they’ll do just that.
By Barry Goldwater
February 5, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
I don’t see anything wrong with the U.S. having troops, i.e., at least one base in Iraq, for 100 years or 3,000 years. There’s nothing wrong with that. We should not be peacekeepers for that long, though. I think John McCain probably sees it that way, too.
By Captain Freedom
February 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
THE Captain is stunned to see Mr Wooten attempting free-meter poetry on his blog today, though He is most impressed with the effort. Perhaps we are witnessing the sunrise of a new career, eh Jim? Move over, TS Eliot.
Oh, and McCain is a comsymp liberal bedwetter. Both Oxy-Rush and Chairman Ann of the Man Hands said so, and that settles it.
By Barry Goldwater
February 5, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
McCainesque? Hell, Tony’s mama got him the job, and that dear woman would be as ashamed of Little Tony as I am! She was true blue in ‘64, and she loved the Reagans as much as they loved her. Poor Tony. That fella wouldn’t know which way the wind blows if he didn’t stick his finger up his fundament first.
Well, maybe his is like Johnny.
By retawdloG yrraB
February 5, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
I have no idea who the most recent Barry Gold water post is by, so I’ll use me name backward this time to differentiate. And, then after that I’ll choose a new handle, each more clever than the last, with every post. That’s all said to say, I have to idea who Tony’s mama is.
By Shar
February 5, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten says that “most Republicans are not buying” and then bases his comments on polls restricted to Georgia and Tennessee, states that are more conservative than most. Yet even here, Senator McCain leads handily in two polls that Mr. Wooten fails to cite: Strategic Vision (taken Feb. 1-3) shows his support among Republican voters at 33% to Romney’s 27%, Huckabee’s 26% and Paul’s 5%; McClatchey/MSNBC (taken Jan.30- Feb. 1) says that 40% of GOP voters support him versus 31% for Romney, 18% for Huckabee and 4% for Paul. Remember, too, that Huckabee is much more likely to support McCain than Romney once he withdraws from the race, judging by his criticism of Romney in campaign speeches.
Mr. Wooten, still yearning for far right hegemony, says these leads are not enough, that McCain’s success is a chimera propagated by questionable, staged endorsements from deluded or self-serving Republicans because his margin of victory is not equal to the Romney/Huckabee vote combined. But nationally, it is. USA Today/Gallup has him at 42% versus Romney’s 24% and Huckabee’s 18%. Pew Research found almost identical numbers, 42% to 22% and 20%. CBS News showed 46% for McCain, 23% for Romney and 12% for Huckabee.
Despite the wailing and gnashing of teeth among far right commentators, the presidency of George Bush has discredited the notion of leadership through pandering to a fringe “base.” That is why Obama’s ‘vision for change’ has been so successful against Clinton’s history of partisanship, and it’s why the farther right Republican candidates have withdrawn or are behind. The electorate is rejecting unbending, judgemental insistence backed up by a small group of extreme partisans and is insisting on dialogue, inclusion and compromise.
Your argument today is specious, Mr. Wooten. The winner is the person who gets the most votes, not the person who can defeat every other candidate combined. And “most Republicans” are not confined to two states. The support for a change in direction cuts across both parties and is very real, as is the regional and national support for John McCain.
Although I could do without the incessant robocalls from his campaign.
By retawdloG yrraB
February 5, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
CORRECTED TO REMOVE PIRATE LANGUAGE:
I have no idea who the most recent Barry Goldwater post is by, so I’ll use my name backward this time to differentiate. And, then after that I’ll choose a new handle, each more clever than the last, with every post. That’s all said to say, I have to idea who Tony’s mama is.
By Sandy O'Connor
February 5, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
Dear Ron:
As I have warned the nation many times, Roe v. Wade did not decide the legal issue, but only postponed its decision. My former Brethren used “viability” as a kind of exit clause, fully cognizant of the fact, since demonstrated, that medical science increasingly will push the point of viability ever nearer to the point of conception.
Please remember to cast your ballot for my friend, the national hero John McCain.
By WFC
February 5, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
Conservative Republicans should than God for John McCain. He is their ONLY hope to have ANY say in the next eight years. The combo choir boy/frat boy “W” has been both dumb and stubborn. We independents have had enough. Both Romney and Huckabee would be crushed in 2008. Think Goldwater in 1964 if you want to see THAT future.
As is, I would vote McCain over Clinton. I would vote Obama over McCain. I would vote ANYBODY over Romney or Huckabee. And God bless Ron Paul!
By Glenn
February 5, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
deegee @ 9:10,
Right on!
By Southern Democrat
February 5, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
According to Mr. Wooten’s logic regarding Georgia and Tennessee GOP polls, a majority of the country voted against Ross Perot in 1992.
There’s lies, there’s damned lies, and there’s statistics.
By JP
February 5, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
Much as I must admit I’m mercilessly enjoying the fracturing of the conservative base across religious and populist lines, Michael Medved argues convincingly that’s not why McCain is ahead.
Talk about a downer!
By Barry Goldwater
February 5, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
Well, then, my fellow Americans, it looks like we’ve established which is the real Gen. Goldwater. The fraudulent one never knew Little Tony’s mama, may that grand Republican lady rest in peace.
My friends, beware of fair weather conservatives today, here, on your telephone and TV set, at your polling place, and inside the voting booth.
By Mid-South Philosopher
February 5, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Jim,
The notion that Mitt Romney is a “conservative” makes about as much sense as Ann Coulter saying that Hillary Clinton is more conservative than John McCain. The Republicans are imploding.
Romney is a Georgie Bush corporatist. The only problem is that he is a he**-of-a-lot smarter than that Crawford, Texas wonder.
McCain has a conservative record except on those idiocies like the BUSH, Kennedy, McCain Amnesty proposal that the people of this country routed. (And another thing…why is it that idiots like Limbaugh and Hannity always fail to add Georgie Bush’s name to that farce? He was up to his neck in trying to get it enacted, but you wouldn’t know by listening to these corporatist commentators.)
The fact of the matter is that all you Republican worshippers need to offer an apology to John Kerry. If he was a “flip-fopper”, which he was, McCain and Romney are “flippity-floppers!” Just how many positions have they changed trying to become conservative.
The only real conservative in this fight is Huckabee, who has about as much chance of winning as Ann Coulter has of graduating from charm school.
Anyway…go vote. Even if you vote wrong, which the most of you are going to do, go vote. Then, you will have no one to blame but yourself!
By JP
February 5, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
“Either the elite commentators were wrong when they labeled Huckabee a “liberal populist,” or they are wrong now when they say he’s stealing conservative votes from Romney. The only other alternative is that they view conservative voters as just too stupid to see Huckabee for what he really is.”
By Glenn
February 5, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
Shar, your analysis today is as thoughtful as ever, but for one thing. There’s no “far right” candidate in the race. Hasn’t been since Hunter pulled out.
For my devalued money, a “far right” candidate is someone proud to be named as such. Goldwater was proud of that moniker. The four remaining surely would have the modicum of honesty required to reject that label.
By Ace Mulholland
February 5, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
Our boy Mike’s doing a great job, isn’t he? Bob was SO the sage to have played up that weight loss thing. Joe and Jane WTF just love that merde. They love Oprah for it, and Simmons and Fergie and that chick from Cheers. Hits em right in the old chimichanga. Brilliant!
By Shar
February 5, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
Glenn @ 10:12 - True, which is why I used “farther right” as a differentiator, but perhaps I should have come up with a clearer term. Sorry.
By Glenn
February 5, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Mid-South,
That is so very Democratic Party of you. What, a guy’s successful in business? How dare he run for office! Quick, get the -isms out! Ah, here’s one: “cor-po-rat-ISM”. I love it!
By JK
February 5, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
Glenn, at 10:12, maybe this blanket labeling of “left” and “right” and extreme of either IS the problem. Maybe it’s not only an insufficient method of rating a candidate or policy, but inaccurate as well. Goldwater was a “traditional conservative” according to many, and as such, was appalled at the idea of the government interfering with a woman’s private decision about her own body. You’ll be hard pressed to find any “right-wing conservatives” today who’ll tell the government to stay out of a lady’s personal business. If they do, they’re accused of being a “lefty.”
Maybe going forward we should ditch the labels. They’re not serving us well, IMO.
By Glenn
February 5, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Nah, Shar, no sweat. It’s just that Jim’s correct; a lot of us do bemoan the absence of a principled conservative presence in this campaign. Hunter out; Thompson out; Rudy out; Paul, out there. We ought to be able to stack up our way of seeing things against the other ways, and let our peers decide. Seems like that’s the way it was s’posed to work.
I really like this article, aside from its taking the copy editor’s ridiculous one-sentence-paragraph fetish completely over the top. But, as you make clear, any piece like this one, on this morning, inevitably will show the flaws of missing data.
But then, as Jim says, those are forthcoming, forthwith.
By Dennis
February 5, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Glenn, I don’t have time to post today, but if you have an email address you are willing to use, I’ll send you a little more about Obama - the guy we know little about.
If the heavens don’t bless us today with the right candidates, we’re done for as a country.
May be done for anyway, thanks to the fundamentalist religeous/political right.
But, then, too many of the conservative left have also sat on their haunches waiting for someone else to fight their battles for them.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By getalife
February 5, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
Lets face it, Ga. voted for w twice and want to finish off our country with McInsane.
By Aquagirl
February 5, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
Hunter out; Thompson out; Rudy out; Paul, out there.
Ah, worth tuning in just for the laughs here.
I saw some Paul supporters with signs at an intersection. One guy had his cellphone jammed in his ear and was wandering about like an idiot. Someone should have told him to hang up and campaign.
By Glenn
February 5, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
JK, the Great Label Hoax does get discussed every election cycle. One justification for the labels is that they are freighted with great and changing historical meaning. That’s worthwhile.
But the labels are manipulated terribly, and daily of course. A very good journalist, Alex Cockburn of The Nation, is onto this aspect of that manipulation: the “extremes” of which you, like most people, speak are not really extremes on the political spectrum, and Europeans see this and laugh derisively.
There are, as you point out, different flavors of Republicans and Democrats, and I for one find the modifiers very helpful, which is why I’ve joined jbmlaw and others in trying to stamp out the ignorant misapplications of the rather esoteric term “neoconservative”; a term that should be reserved for a few, influential, people.
I even sometimes feel the whim or even the need to refer to myself as a Radical Republican and a 12th Century conservative. Those are the kind of descriptions that probably would register only with a Bill Bennett or a Leo Strauss!
By Glenn
February 5, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
Dennis,
Though of course I trust you, I’d best not list my email address here. Would you be willing to fax the stuff to my local Kinko’s? If so I’ll get you the number immediately.
Obama’s going to do really well today. I’m eager to learn what you’ve found.
By Compromiser
February 5, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
You could create a one-time fake e-mail account to receive Dennis’ stuff. The other stuff that winds up there, you could just read for laughs.
By Glenn
February 5, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
Yo Rt. Po Fo sept U OK widdat jaz & I B not.
By Redneck Convert
February 5, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
Well, I guess there’s rednecks everywhere you go. I see this good old boy in Europe somewhere got drunk and went sledding on a mattress. It went real fast, they say, but he got kilt when he run into the pole the mattress was suppose to pad. Its a pity somebody with that kind of gumption got to pass on so early. He was probly worth two or three times what some shyster lawyer or a prevert that looks at pee and blood in a lab is worth.
Well, I went up to Rome and voted this a.m. and then went to north Forsyth to vote. Counting the absentee voting I done for the missus,that makes three votes for the godly Rev. Huckabee. This is GA, so everybody vote early and often.
Anyhow, you all better listen to Wooten. Don’t let people bull-rush you into voting for this librul McCain. If he’s a conservative then I’m the scientist that figures out how to send people to the moon. Vote for the Rev. Huckabee, but if you are a atheist or a heathen or something like that and can’t bring yourself to vote for the Rev. Huckabee, then leastwise vote for Romney.
I guess since I took the day off I’ll just stay at the trailer and drink beer till Fox News starts showing the election returns tonight. Tell Sister Dusty thanks for the offer of the choklat covered weenies, but I like mine with a little mustard and besides I don’t want to do all that travel to boost the state of GA. She’ll just have to find somebody else.
By H.M. MI6
February 5, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
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By Dennis
February 5, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
Glenn, let’s try this. On the net, go to the Washington Note (a site run by a guy named Steve Clemons) and look for an article by Serge Kovaleski. You will find it under the date of Feb 3.
I’m going to vote, so will check back later. (I am reminded of an old John Wayne move where the good guys are about to be attacked by the indians. Wayne asks an old demented preacher to say a prayer which turns out to be, “Oh, Lord, we thank thee for what we are about to receive!”
Regrardless of the outcome, I fear what we are about to receive.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By OneForTheRoad
February 5, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
I like labels. I also like to tell my daughter “I like…….eggs”. It drives her bonkers. We like to use meaningful labels — labels that have a clear message to convey. Like when I ask my daughter what she wants for lunch and she says something like “Mac and Cheese”, I know exactly what she means. There’s no need for modifiers or further explanation. Can’t say that about most things though. What does it mean to be a “conservative republican with family values” or a “left-wing liberal democrat”. That probably depends on whose lips spoke the words. We all know that’s also subject to change without notice. There’s nothing wrong with that. You can march to a different beat — left, right, left, right, left — and still display a little common sense from time to time.
Speaking of marching to a different beat, suppose you have two groups — the linears and the rotaries. Now, you line up these two groups side-by-side and all facing North. Next, you instruct these two groups to follow your marching orders except to fill in any orders that were “clearly” missing. OK, here we go. “Left, Left, Left, Right, Left”. Where do you suppose the two groups ended up? Well, the linears interpreted the orders to mean: “Left, Right, Left, Right, Left, Right, Left” and ended up 7 steps farther North. The rotaries however turned left, then left again, then left and right, and finally turned left where they ended up facing East but with no linear progression. The linears looked back at them laughing and said “Those rotaries are always getting turned around”. The rotaries just looked straight ahead and said “those linears are always getting lost”. It’s all a matter of perspective.
Anyway, that’s what I always say.
By Glenn
February 5, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this
I’m off to follow your lead, Dennis…
By Craig
February 5, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Jim do you suppose that Johnny endorsed McCain because - wait for it - he thought he would be the best candidate? I hate to think that all politicians are as cynical as you believe.
On the other hand, poor idiotic Saxby has never had an independent thought, so I’m not sure why he did it.
By Carl
February 5, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
Let the Republicans’ real sentiment toward Americans continue to be seen in the cluster f* that is the management of today’s election.
By Dennis
February 5, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
By Craig February 5, 2008 11:37 AM “On the other hand, poor idiotic Saxby has never had an independent thought….”
Precisely. A butt kisser and a brown noser if there ever was one.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By getalife
February 5, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
w is the worst ever and destroyed our country but McInsane will finish it off with more wars, borrowing more trillions from China and no clue about the economy.
Voting gop and expecting change is the definition of insanity. McInsane will stay the course with w’s disastrous policies.
The choice is clear. To get out of Iraq, fix our economy and get back to the greatest country on this planet, just remember:
“It takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush”.
Lets even it up 2 to 2 with another Clinton to have all the power w and cheney stole, Obama for VP to keep the WH for a long time and Edwards as AG to bring justice back to our country.
Karma is beautiful.
By AmVet
February 5, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this
Craig and Dennis, good points. Yes, it is repulsive to get those recorded phone calls from Sux-to-be Chambless endorsing McCain. It still amazes me how that meely-mouthed creep got to be a representative of ours.
And though this year is pretty much playing out as I expected, the embarrassments to the GOP seem to be almost endless.
First were Tancredo, Hunter, Brownback and especially Thompson. Now a REAL hawk gets the chance to shellack the last two pretenders, er contenders. (Sorry Dr. Paul, that’s true notwithstanding the still amazing fact that you got more traction and were more relevant than Rudy!)
And the delightful Ms. Coulter practically choking on her own vomit to support Clinton over McCain! True entertainment!
How great would it be if our two less than stellar US Senators get axed by the still blind “faithful” and neo-con apologists for endorsing McCain.
I simply couldn’t not have drawn up a better scenario…
By jbmlaw
February 5, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
Daer getalife @ 11:58, and to complete the simile let’s rename the country “Freedonia.”
By getalife
February 5, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
ambulance chaser,
Your post to me is so idiotic, I have no response.
WTF?
By Carl
February 5, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
Dennis - I used to share your sentiments concerning Chambliss. But then I found out that part of the reason his golf game was so good was because some of MY tax dollars were paying his green fees! So, it’s like I’m a good golfer too!
Thus, when he skipped the committee hearings that were looking into the WH manipulation of pre-war intel just so he could play in a tourny here in Atlanta, he was doing it for me, too!
By OneForTheRoad
February 5, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this
I think the primaries should be eliminated and we should just vote for President and anyone else that’s running — along with all those other items that the government wants our money for — on April 15. The polls shouldn’t close until midnight just to make it easy on folks that like to wait till the last minute.
Anyway, that’s what I always say.
By OneForTheRoad
February 5, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
I think the primaries should be eliminated and we should just vote for President and anyone else that’s running — along with all those other items that the government wants our money for — on April 15. The polls shouldn’t close until midnight just to make it easy on folks that like to wait till the last minute.
Anyway, that’s what I always say.
By jbmlaw
February 5, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
Sudden thought in the middle of the afternoon: why is the taxpayer obliged to fund the cost of party primary elections? Why should that expense not be borne entirely by the political parties themselves, under whatever rules they would wish to enforce? I do not perceive the public interest, and I think the public subsidy may corrupt the results.
By jbmlaw
February 5, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
Dear One for the Road @ various times, I had not read your post before my last entry, but I agree.
Dear Getalife @ 12:39, two words: Duck Soup.
By BS Aplenty
February 5, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
TEN SECOND PLAY
A galaxay far, far, away in a time where the dark side is still only a little bit shady - Ty Ty, GA
Two TyTynians discussing the upcoming presidential primaries outside the Dairy-Queen.
EDGAR: Can’t rightly figure who I need to vote for today, Vern.
VERN: I like this feller, Rumney - can’t be nothin’ wrong with a guy named ‘Mitt’- makes me think of baseball.
EDGAR: …all well-and-good if you’re lookin’ for a shortstop, Vern, but this is the presidential primaries. Where’s your love for Huckabee? or McCaine? or Paul?
VERN: Now, Paul, there’s a good Christian name - think I could vote for him. I can see him spreadin’ the capitalist gospel in Athens or Rome…or Berlin.
EDGAR: This ain’t about evangelisin’ those socialist heathens in Europe now Vern.
VERN: Naw, Ed, I was talkin’ about our Georgia legislators.
EDGAR: Ugh,I give up…
VERN: Did you get a hot dog with your full meal deal?…fade to black
THE END
By Lisa Love
February 5, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
All the Republican candidates are dudds but McCain takes the cake! Good lord is that guy one terrible speaker. What a dullard! He is totally old, stale and uninspiring, even to his own party. As long as the Dems make sure we run as much footage as possible of him singing “Bomb, Bomb Iran” to the tune of Barbara Ann and all the clips of him saying we will be in Iraq for another century, then we will have no problems taking back the Whitehouse this year.
By Mike
February 5, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
BS Aplenty -
You are letting your own prejudices get in the way of facts.
If you notice, the debate among the GOP is purely about policy. It is the Democratic race that is about who is black, who is a woman, who is “mean” and who cries the most.
The GOP is having a substantial debate about policy. The Dems are choosing their candidate based on the most superficial of reasons.
By Swampdawg
February 5, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
I voted for the tallest guy! James Oglethorpe, George Washington, Abe Lincoln, Ronald Reagan were all tall men and made Great Leaders!
Vote for the tall guy with the nicest family!!! He will look good in the White House! That’s what it’s all about…right?
By Mike
February 5, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
Lisa Love -
You are so right. What we need is a bunch of empty rhetoric about change from a party that chooses its candidates based on race, gender, “niceness” and teariness.
By Swampdawg
February 5, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
I voted for the tallest guy! James Oglethorpe, George Washington, Abe Lincoln, Ronald Reagan were all tall men and made Great Leaders!
Vote for the tall guy with the nicest family!!! He will look good in the White House! That’s what it’s all about…right?
By Camus
February 5, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
I especially like the clip of St John the Straight Talker when he says straight up that he does not know much about the economy. Now that’s the kind of honesty that means something, even if it does show that he is not equipped for the Presidency.
But it gets even better when you see the clip of him denying he ever said it. Straight Talk.
Glenn, are you still clinging to the fiction of Rudy as a principled conservative, or are you branching into comedy? If you’re serious, tell me how he ended up endorsing McCain? Principled or prostituted?
By Juan
February 5, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
I will be voting for senor~ mccain!!!
free citizenship!!!! amnesty for all! la raza! the taco and burrito fiesta is at mi casa amigos!
oh and by the way thanks for paying for my 5 kids to go to public school for free..and for the extra ESOL teachers you had to hire.. and that “free” trip to the ER last year.. muchos gracias tax paying gringos!!!!
dumb gringos
By USA1
February 5, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
Karma may be beautiful, but Republicans have held the executive branch for 20 of the last 28 years.
(For Democrats educated in gubment schools, that’s more than 50% of the time.)
Ted Kennedy Voiceover: “It’s time for Chaaaannnnge, cough, crackle. Hiccup.”
By BS Aplenty
February 5, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
Dear Mike @1:42 (wow, does that sound like jbmlaw), I’m on your side of the aisle, pal. Just havin’ a bit of fun.
VOTE ANYBODY BUT THE COMMUNIST LIBERAL DEMOCRATS BUT DEFINITELY Romney or Paul!!
How’s that?
By Glenn
February 5, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
The thing about the present occupant of the late Senator Goldwater’s seat is, he’s a quintessential, even exaggerated, example of what Mr. Goldwater called a “fair-weather conservative”. In accordance with the customs and traditions of the U.S. Senate, that is a diplomatic way of saying “a sham conservative”.
Whenever Punxsutawney John ventures from his huddles with liberal Democrats, if he should happen to see his shadow, that means six more weeks of his liberalism. Otherwise, he just might resume dabbling in conservatism.
These are labels, of course. And that’s what labels are good for: naming one’s world for oneself—-a perfectly democratic facility. Barry Goldwater was so good at it that he endeared himself to millions. Others resent this facility, and ridicule it. One gets the sense that they refuse to wear the labels they have earned.
For example, anyone who here, or on my telephone today, pitches John McCain as “the true conservative in the race”, will have reduced herself to a mode of behavior that perhaps can best be described by either of the following two labels: lying, or idiocy. I believe that Gen. Goldwater simply would have called such persons “liars”, and left it at that.
Yep, that sounds right.
[Petraeus/Honore ‘12]
By JK
February 5, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
Mike at 1:42, you are so right AND you are also very wrong. The remaining Dems in the race differ only slightly on position. BOTH want to end this ridiculous and expensive war (for which we are borrowing money from China), stimulate the economy here at home and put people to work by promoting new technologies and energy sources so we can stop sending all our money to the Saudis for oil (W likes to tiptoe through the bluebonnets holding hands with the Prince), and reform a health care system that works well for some people because it excludes so many and still costs everyone more!
Since our decision is not based on major policy differences, the questison becomes, “Who do I think can (a) beat the Republicans in November, and (b) do a more effective job implementing the necessary changes.”
Thanks for caring, though!
By Captain Freedom
February 5, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
THE Captain has long mistrusted Manchurian McCain as a tool of the surging yellow hordes of Chinese Communism. McCain’s inexplicable tolerance of brown-skinned peoples is surely a visible manifestation of his untrustworthiness.
But THE Captain has also had his problems with Mitt the Mormontologist…until now.
In a FOX interview Tuesday morning, Romney had said that former Kansas senator Bob Dole was “probably the last person I would have wanted to have write a letter for me.”
Now THAT is more like it. Anyone, even a man who swallows the bunkum of Joseph Smith, who will attack a legitimate war hero clearly has the stuff it takes to lead Our Nation and carry forward the mantle of Our Leader. Add to that Romney’s unhesitating willingness to lash out at an old man with a bum arm and a dead pecker, and you have the kind of Courage and Leadership that the GOP and Our Nation have grown to cherish over the past 7 years.
Romney/Huckabee ‘08. It is the Right Thing to do, because just one Imaginary Skygod Nutcase is not enough.
By Boots
February 5, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
Those spinless cowards who didn’t have the stones to serve in the military —- those with multiple divorces and drug problems who wrap themselves in the cloak of family values and conservative principles —- are hypocrites of the rankest order and make my butt crave buttermilk!
By BS Aplenty
February 5, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this
John Juan that’d be “McCaine” with an “e”.
Just thought you’d like the correct spelling when you get into the polling booth.
te nada
By Dusty
February 5, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
Oh namby pamby puddin pie,
One more ring-a-ding and I’ll cry.
Now will you callers just REFRAIN?
I have already voted for John McCAIN.
By Glenn
February 5, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
Camus, his record of pulling off conservatism under the noses of New York liberals makes Romney’s temporizing with, McCain’s conjugal relations with, and Huckabee’s owenership by Democrats look ridiculous.
Rudy endorsed McCain because (a) he resents Romney’s billing himself as a gubernatorial “conservative” when he managed consistently to fail to do what Rudy did, and (b) because he is convinced that McCain can beat Hillary.
Rudy is, after all, The Hillslayer.
By BS Aplenty
February 5, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
juan get back to work cutting my grass you lazy beaner. Your paycheck’s in the mail…
bwahahahahaha.
By Aaron Burr V. Mexico
February 5, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto=Romney.
By Glenn
February 5, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
Boots,
Just curious: How does your backside feel about non-military intelligence officers, diplomats and Pentagon suits?
By Captain Freedom
February 5, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this
THE Captain reports back with unfortunate news. While it is true that Mitt did indeed heap righteous contumely upon Bob Dole, and thereby giving THE Captain a minor Woody at the time, it appears that Mitt has reverted to Flippity Floppity by later calling Dole a “war hero” and saying that he “thinks very highly of Senator Dole” and that he would love to have the Senator’s support.
Sweet Merciful Mother. Is this what We of True Belief are reduced to? A pawn of Communist Brainwashing or a fringe-cult flip-flopper who created a Socialist medicine plan in F@gachusetts. Perhaps the lovely and charming Ann Coulter is correct…we should all vote for Hillary as a protest.
Where have you gone Joe diGiuliani? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you. Well, Glenn, Dusty and THE Captain long for your comforting words and manly demeanor, anyway. I guess we do not deserve you.
By BS Aplenty
February 5, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
…that’d be two “e’s”, juan - my bad.
tee nada
By Dr. I.Q.
February 5, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
It really doesn’t matter what platform the candidates from either party runs on.
It matter not what they promise and what they envision.
THE WINNER OF THIS ELECTION WILL BE HAMSTRUNG BY FISCAL PROBLEMS CREATED BY “DON’T HAVE THE GUTS TO VETO REDICULOUS EARMARKS BUSH” AND WILL HAVE TO FIGHT LIKE A SON OF A GUN TO KEEP OUR ECONOMY AFLOAT.
This is one you can’t blame on the Democrats. Thanks George.
By Ace Mulholland
February 5, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
Just wait till Bob and I release Hillary’s Senate Caucus tape of McCain on the Floor throwing his hissy fit and shouting at a fellow Senate Republican “F… You!”
That’ll go down so great in Grand Rapids that we can’t wait!
By getalife
February 5, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
gomers wins West Virginia.
Shazam.
By hellooooo
February 5, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
Gentlepeople: i have so much enjoyed the political ribaldry today. Along with some amazingly good points made!
I have one question: Why is it that when people talk of meeting in the middle (a’la conservative & liberal, right & left, etc) the “middle seems defined in a spot more and more to the left, so that “meeting in the middle” that i grew up with 30 years ago is now “meeting in the middle of the left”… and the REAL problem is that those on the right/conservative side (a’la McCain) seem perfectly FINE with that!
By TW
February 5, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this
It’s really only fitting that the primary be a fiasco today so as to mark the end, hopefully, of what will go down in history as ‘The Great Regression.’ The hanging chads marked the beginning of an eight year executive abortion and now we have an appropriate last chapter.
By Dr. I.Q.
February 5, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
It really doesn’t matter what platform the candidates from either party runs on.
It matter not what they promise and what they envision.
THE WINNER OF THIS ELECTION WILL BE HAMSTRUNG BY FISCAL PROBLEMS CREATED BY “DON’T HAVE THE GUTS TO VETO REDICULOUS EARMARKS BUSH” AND WILL HAVE TO FIGHT LIKE A SON OF A GUN TO KEEP OUR ECONOMY AFLOAT.
This is one you can’t blame on the Democrats. Thanks George.
By OneForTheRoad
February 5, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
Let’s think this thing through. We borrow money from the Chinese. We use part of that money to buy Chinese seafood and in exchange we get a good meal that fights off infection thus lowering our expenditures in healthcare, then we spend more of that Chinese money on Saudi oil and we use some of that oil to mine and ship Virginia coal to China where we sell it to them, and then we use even more of that money from China to buy houses that we cannot afford because they are so over-inflated and we default on the loans and walk away from our debts leaving the lenders holding the bag, and finally China brings over more money and bails out the lenders so they can afford to pay their bonuses and golden parachutes. All of this now leads to a slowdown in the US economy. So, the legislature borrows more money from China to give to us as rebates because they know we cannot afford to pay off any more loans. We should all feel so indebted to those gracious Chinese. I’m eating fried rice tonight in their honor.
By the way, where did they get so much money to begin with? Hmmmm. Maybe I better eat a Angus burger instead.
Life is Good. The year of the Boar (that’s a wild pig — you know, PORK) is coming to an end and the year of the Rat is next.
Anyway, that’s what I always say.
By Dr. William Benet
February 5, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
Dr. I.Q.:
Please present at my laboratory preparatory to resubmission for testing. Our files indicate that we administered the Normal Protocol rather than the Examination for Democrats. Accordingly, it is best that your Quotient be adjusted, following a second round of testing, to represent a declination for those, e.g. Democrats, congenitally incapable of recognizing that as much control over policy inheres in cutting budgets as in expanding them.
By profit
February 5, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
McClown is so dumb that I am amazed he can read the script: he graduated fifth from LAST at the Air Farce Academy, was one of the fewer than 1% of pilots to be shot down in viet nam, and cannot remember his own phone number. I am suprised he was not made to pay to the plane he got shot down in viet nam. McClown is a step down from the truely DUMB Dubya, as McClown is both DUMB and INSANE, even by Republican standards. I am a registered Republican, yet I today voted for Obama…
By Ron
February 5, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
Huckabee wins West Virginia.
By chuck
February 5, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this
disgusted@ 9:13. Great post. I could not have said it better myself.
By JRW
February 5, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
I’m voting from John McCain. Can’t wait to see Ann Coulter working for Hillary.
By Curious Observer
February 5, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
Huckabee wins West Virginia.
Of course he does. The main constituency of the Republican party up there is the bible-thumpers. They really count it a mortal sin to vote for anybody who doesn’t adhere to creationist theology.
By Jack
February 5, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
Things are heating up between Hamas & Israel. We do need a prez with nads.
By OneForTheRoad
February 5, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
The dilemma, Jack is whether a good capitalist would sell big bombs to both Hamas and Israel or little bombs to both sides. For, the big bombs have the higher profit margin but they reduce the customer base for additional big bombs rather quickly. The little bombs have very small profit margins but they do a good job of inciting even more little bombers which is in turn good for more little bomb sales.
By Curious Observer
February 5, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
Things are heating up between Hamas & Israel. We do need a prez with nads.
Good point, Jack. I’m sure WALNUTS McCain can find a spare regiment somewhere to send to Gaza to kick some azz.
By BS Aplenty
February 5, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this
OneFer
When you was describing capitalist bomb-selling, well, I got MAJOR wood. Gawd, but I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
By Dusty
February 5, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
Oh golly gee, what a melee, have we got the goodies and the crazies here today? Yes.
Captain,who suffers from the same malaise as Bob Dole, has brought this war hero into the spotlight against the natty and normal Romney. That point is of little consequence, flip flop or not.
Our very own McCain of war fame will lead us with the gifted Guiliani at his side. Warriors are the winners against the sweet & sour offered by Democrats.
So dry your tears, dear Capn, and stop talking about Hillary. Dear Ann may speak lightly but will never! ever! jump off the cliff with Democrats!
By Lisa Love
February 5, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
Mike- that is not what we are debating that is just what it looks like to outsiders. However, your party voted for Bush twice because he seemed like a great guy to hang out and have a beer with, so shut up.
By flip wilson
February 5, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
Cap’n Freedom, I didn’t know McCain had a dead pecker. Wasn’t that also Chambliss’s angle for dodging the draft?
By James
February 5, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
I take John McCain, a proud American, over Lil’ Abner, the Robotman, Obama or yo’ Mama!
By James
February 5, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
I take John McCain, a proud American, over Lil’ Abner, the Robotman, Obama or yo’ Mama!
By Dusty
February 5, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
Curious Observer,@3:25
When has Hamas gotten along with anybody? They got Gaza and use it to fire rockets at Israel.
Then Hamas knocks down the wall between them and Egypt. Unhappy Egyptians.
This has nothing to do with McCain. Would you mind waiting until the man is elected before you start suggesting the Liberal Lament “McCain did it!”
By Disgusted
February 5, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
Cap’n Freedom, I didn’t know McCain had a dead pecker. Wasn’t that also Chambliss’s angle for dodging the draft?
No need to impune the man’s virility, flip. The truth is that military service would have impeded the improvement of his golf game.
By Just Nasty and Mean
February 5, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
In West Virginia, Romney won the initial vote with 40+% of the vote. But because he didn’t get 50%, there was a 2nd ballot. McCain, per usual, structured a sleazy back-room deal to release his delegates to vote for Gomer (I mean a-Huck-aHuck-Huckabee) to keep Romney from the win. Just proves a vote for a-Huck-aHuck Huckabee is a vote for McCain.
This is what McCain does—in Congress and in elections. Instead of trying to win outright, he works compromises to get his way.
We don’t want this slimy Washington, dirty-dog insider and left wing Republicrat. We can do much, MUCH better—and it looks like Romney is the man.
Don’t let these slimeballs influence you from voting conservative republican, no matter what the liberal press says.
By Captain Freedom
February 5, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
Thank you for your concern, Dusty, but THE Captain’s arm is fine.
By Dr. William Benet
February 5, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this
Profit @ 2:48,
McClown…graduated fifth from last at the Air Farce Academy…
Punsutawney John is a third-generation Anapolis Graduate. A lifelong renegade, he did indeed receive poor grades reflecting his spotty attendance. It is not clear whether he would have passed Top Gun had his father and grandfather not been four-star admirals (his father commanding in John’s theatre of conflict). He did also attend the War College, which is super-elite; I have no idea what his grades or rankings were there, and rather doubt that they even keep such counts.
Never known for his flying skills, he flew 22 roughly one-hour missions before being downed. Had he paid for the Douglas A-4 shot out from under him, he’d have gotten a sweetheart deal: things were made for more than 30 years in one configuration or another, and were comparatively dirt cheap.
By OneForTheRoad
February 5, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
With all these new high-tech weapons coming out, our Generals will be egging on any President just to get a chance to try the things out on something other than simulations. Wimpy simulations. Crappy, wimpy, wussy simulations. They need something Real to blow up. Blow it up with a Rail Gun. Now there’s a man’s (sorry, Hillary) GUN. Dang. It gives a whole new meaning to the right to bear arms. Can you imagine slingshotting a chunk of metal sooo fast that it has enough energy to just, just, just…….How Much Energy IS IT? Do the Math, Dude. KE = 0.5 x m x v^2. Take Mach 5 and square that sucker. That’s how much! Don’t that just get you all excited! It makes you wish you were a General or something, don’t it?
By Mick
February 6, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this
Hey, wait just a doggone minute! John McCain is a champion of ethics and campaign reform. He’s a proud and prominent member of the Keating Five, which should make all bloggers proud also.
Go search on this and get yourself educated before you hang general labels on him. If you must, then label him as one of the exclusive Keating Five principals!
By JP
February 7, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
Oh no! The Third Stooge is out!