Thinking Right

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

• DAY 4: No Child Left Unsold

That’s easy!

GOP:

Pres. Nominee:

John McCain, March 4

VP Nominee:

Nancy Pelosi, Sept. 3

Democratic Party:

Pres. Nominee

Hillary Clinton, April 22

VP Nominee:

Bill Clinton, August 29

[Petraeus/Honore 12]

By TW

February 4, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

Hats off to the Republican Party for finally ridding itself of the anti-American hate and greed that has for eight years now done nothing but mute its once valuable voice. Great Job!

John McCain ‘08

Patriotism Before Profit

By Dennis

February 4, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

A choice. Oh, boy, we’re going to get a choice.

Anything but “None of the above.”

(By the way, Glenn, I thought your questions about Obama, “Who is he, what do we know about him?” were fair questions. My problem is, we know Hillary).

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By jbmlaw

February 4, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. As my track record on forecasts has been abysmal, I welcome the opportunity to redeem my self. The Republican side is easier: McCain will clinch after the Pennsylvania primary, April 22, but he will be in striking range long before then. Running mate: Giuliani. I think he would be smarter to get a younger conservative for his running mate (I would nominate our friend Glenn) but probably will not, since he does not like anybody.

The Democrats are tougher to analyze: Hillary, but not before the first round at the convention. She will have tremendous pressure to add Barack as her running mate, but I think he may not want to sign on, for obviously good reasons. Edwards would love it (he’s unemployed) but he would add little appeal to the ticket. Thus, I see Bill Richardson as her VP nominee, due to lack of meaningful choices.

By Dusty

February 4, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Hey, no fair. I’m not telling (or I may still write in Robert M. Gates for Pres.)

As ‘tis said It aint over ‘til the fat lady sings. I’m waiting…

By Redneck Convert

February 4, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

Well, the more I read about this bill to allow good GA Christians to pack heat at church the better I like it. This guy Glenn claims its about trigger locks, but I ain’t seen nothing about trigger locks in the things I read.

The bill also allows GA Christians to bring their guns to kids games not held at school and they can take them to restaurants too. I tell you, Paradise is about to come for us GA rednecks. On Sunday morning you show up at the Church of Holiness with a .44 in a holster under your arm, ready to take on the preacher or somebody else if what they say don’t agree with you. Then you take your hid gun to the Greasy Skillet after church, and woe be to any waitress or cook that don’t treat you right. Then you go to a park to watch some kids from your trailer park take on some kids from another trailer park and you just dare some father from the other team to start raising a ruckus about the umpiring or weather his kid gets to play.

We can all be real proud to live in a state where there is so much respeck for peoples 2nd Amendment rights. Yes sir, you won’t find that kind of bill in any other state.

Anyhow, I see the Rev. Huckabee is real close in GA. Tomorrow morning I expect that us rednecks will come streaming out of hills and valleys to vote for him, and won’t this librul McCain and this Mormon Romney be suprized when they find that us GA folk have so much respeck for God and Christian values in guvmint?

My buddy Jim Earl and my other buddy Joe Bill say they are going to vote for this Osama. They claim they will do it because if he gets picked then us godly Republicans got it made in the shade. Nobody with any self-respeck here in the South will vote for one of Those People in the general election. If you don’t believe it, just look what happened to this uppity Ford guy in Tennessee. The voters told the reporters they was going to vote for Ford and then come election time this Corker whomped him good. A good Southrener will never vote for one of Those People no matter how good he talks and how White he acts. They will have to vote for the Republican, even if they don’t like him much.

I expect alot of godly Republicans got the same idea as Jim Earl and Joe Bill. They keep talking about how this Osama would be tougher to beat than the Hillary woman, but they know in their heart it would be just a murder of him at the polls if he run as the Democrat. They are real slick, these Republicans.

Well, I got a beer run to make and then tomorrow morning I’m going to vote. I’ll go up to Rome first because they still got me on the voting roll and with my cousin picking up my mail addressed up there I can still vote up there. They try to be real slick by sending out notices of the photo ID law and then striking anybody that has his notice come back undelivered. But I’m slicker than them. I get my mail picked up in Rome.

Then I’ll drive back to north Forsyth to vote here. I’ll be sure to show photo ID both times. I already voted by absentee for the missus. She don’t read so somebody has to fill out her ballot and I done it. Only she didn’t see who I voted for. I just mailed it in and don’t nobody know any diffrent. Have a good day everybody.

By Dusty

February 4, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

RedNeck Convert @9:31

You have posted so many compliments about Georgia that I’m impressed. Maybe we could make you a goodwill ambassador and send you elsewhere to spread the good Georgia news.

How about Timbuktu? Go ahead. Nobody will miss you at Chateau Elan. (They say you are stealing golf balls off the course.) I’ll send you some chocolate covered chicken weiners if you promise to go.

By Ron

February 4, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Morning Jim,Should the Repubs choose McCain at their convention,and that’s not a certainty,They’ll run Huckabee or the Newt with him.Got to get those conservative votes.Hillary will be chosen on the 19th vote at the Democratic convention and will run with Richardson.The Giants will win the Superbowl.A little 20/20 hindsight for you this morning.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Thanks, jbm! VP is the only political job I’d ever want to have, as I’ve never wanted to be a politician! How did you know? (Also, the VP’s digs are much nicer.)

Dennis,

Evidently it’s not only great minds which think alike, as I said the same at the end of yesterday’s string!

TW,

Are you by chance the law student? Because if so, please know that I was serious about contacting John in San Antonio, as he could use you sooner rather than later on projects near and dear to you. You could still complete law school, symbiotically.

Dusty,

No need to call me a liar or crook or traitor or whatever. I don’t traffic in rumors, and didn’t do so yesterday. McCain’s co-chair is a dear friend, and has been in charge of counterfoil research. (That’s where you run oppo on your own horse, to be ready for the enemy’s hits.) I was simply trying to warn you that (a) it’s going to get far uglier, (b) that some of it is going to be true (though undoubtedly wrenched radically out of context), (c) that right now McCain’s worst enemies are and have been Republicans, (d) that much of what is coming out originates with them, regardless of the partisanship of the outlets spreading the junk, and (e) you really ought to consider steeling yourself for it—-that’s how rough it will be (in both directions).

Also, and completely irrespective of McCain or any other single politician, please be clear-eyed and probative. Loyalty for loyalty’s sake is in fact mere obstinacy, the opposite of discipline. Had you heard rumors in 1960 that Jack Kennedy’s father in fact stole the New Hampshire primary for JFK, and that Jack suffered from foolhardy Satyriasis and was dying of Addison’s Disease, would you have stood by your man? Because had you done so under those conditions, you’d have been neglecting your duty to the country for the sake of emotive notions of “loyalty” to the wrong, though good, principles.

By MissionImp

February 4, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Jim,

For someone with such a propensity for numbers, you should be able to handle today’s mission, should you choose to, quite easily.

As you are well aware, people living in a material world need more than a Madonna to survive. Nowadays they need compensation with value. Your challenge for today alludes to compensation in the form of bonus points but you have not provided a description of this point system including an exchange rate for said points — preferably to US Dollars. Also, for the sake of fairness to all, please incorporate at least the Libertarian Party and Green Party into the voting lineup. After all, as inconsequential as some believe these parties to be, they have spoiled more than one election.

As usual (and to satisfy other interested parties), these representative bytes may be bound to last an eternity, or not, depending on whose tape drive they end up on. Therefore, I cannot ensure self-destruction at this time.

By jbmlaw

February 4, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

I know who I want McCain to name as VP: Ted Olson, even though he would also be my first choice for the Supremes.

By Dusty

February 4, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Glenn @10:00

I think you are a bit mixed up on my posts of yesterday. I suggested mainly that journalists should tell the truth or shutup. Are you a journalist? My bid of yesterday was for INTEGRITY for all politicians and journalists. A wild dream but one that would be worthwhile honesty.

As to McCain, I may vote for him. Not sure at this point. But who knows? He might be a president much like the feisty Truman.

I,too, have a “bone to pick with you”. In a post to “profit” you equated my profession to the level of bedpans, saying I did not understand. After a degree and two years of graduate work, I passed the exams for The American College of Clinical Pathologists. I am on their roster as a professional in laboratory medicine.

I don’t believe that science is considered an easy subject. Nor is engineering. But you obviously think science IS and that is your mistake.

By GaVoter

February 4, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

So, Glenn, if your GOP choices are elected, we’ll have at least 12 (total) years of the same thing and if your DEM choices come true….Well, let’s just hope you get everything you deserve.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

I’m glad you brought that up. I didn’t write that post; was at church at the time. PoFo used my Christian name, as he uses yours from time to time.

Of your profession, I think the opposite. It is the very profession most expert in the Ethic of Care (see Nel Noddings, of Columbia), and as such has a vast wealth to share with many other service professions, most especially my own. I also happen to admire Nightingale, a radical reformer of great and lasting impact. (A fine Christian lady, too.)

I took your remarks to refer to me because of your pronoun choices and because it happens that I used to be a journalist.

By Political Foreskin

February 4, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

Funny how people on this blog conveniently use me as their scapegoat whenever another user of the blog confronts them about something they write.

Well, I’m not going to take it anymore. If you scapegoat me again, I’ll … I’ll … I’ll not be your friend anymore.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Oh, I see what you’re referring to! The bedpan serenade was PoFo’s while I was away; when I returned I wrote the one about the inside-baseball knowledge (from the Higher Ed. biz) that the two Engineering degrees are not what meets the eye, but rather are very specifically two other things from what they are in all other scientific fields. That’s all. I was merely suggesting that he explain that to you, and was going halfway to doing that with my own suggestion that he do so. No insult to you intended. My apologies that one was taken.

Also, my brother is an engineer in your trade. And five of the lab techs at UCSF’s Cancer Research Institute are longtime friends who are doing, I think, amazing work on Sickle Cell and on AIDS.

I’m most excited by the happenings in organics: biotech, especially when wedded to Genetics, just blows my mind with its performance and potential.

GaVoter,

Like I said, the Call To Lose. The People, as the whole we seldom think about during campaign season, are deeply angry. They demand a President who is what she (he) says she (he) is, and they’re not going to get such a person. So just imagine how angry they’ll be when the majority come to that realization.

Also, I responded to you, this morning, at the end of yesterday’s string.

By getalife

February 4, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Voting gop and thinking things will change is the definition of insanity.

Just vote Dem.

By Political Foreskin

February 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Vermin. I turn my back to you. Go, now, and never return.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

Hey PoFo, I fer one happen to like scapegoats; I even worship one. If itwernt you what wore my goofy name, then maybe I shouldn’t have jacked you back. (Though I gotta admit it were a guilty pleasure, and a new one.)

By Rodney McRodderson

February 4, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Oh, Glenn, don’t give us that. You’re a jacker from way back.

By GaVoter

February 4, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Glenn,

The People, based on your statement, should readily migrate to the likes of a Ron Paul if their only concern is with getting a president who is as he claims. So, I must disagree with your generalization.

As for yesterday’s topic, I too posted there today.

Are you sure you have never been or are not currently a politician?

By @@

February 4, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

The Prognosticator’s Window is open for business.

Well close it Jim because the stench is unbearable.

Let me share my BIG DAY—it was Thursday of last week when I cast my vote early. Sitting just outside the 150’ legal designation from the polling place was our Little Sheriff Victor Hill (D), how do I know this you ask? His campaign funding came from powerful Ds here in Clayton.

Anyhoo…Little Victor is in perpetual campaign mode—huge billboards seeking re-election for his next term the day after he won his first, and took office with gunpoint. Back to the polling place…

All last week Little Victor had his crime lab unit with three patrol cars positioned within view…for all to see that he was worthy. How was he making his point?

He was stopping and frisking every African American youth within eye-shot. Those kids traverse the area everyday all year long. My gawd! The area encompasses a school, a recreation facility and a library not to mention the areas where the kids and their families reside.

Disgusting! I abhor the exploitive tactics political candidates will use to get elected.

By Lily Toad

February 4, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

Even among Democrats, Hillary has trouble attracting men. Sexism is alive and well as is racism. For the democrats it’s a question of which ism trumps the other. I don’t think we’ll know the Dem nominee until the convention when Edwards awards his take to the one with the best job offer.

Richardson for Secretary of State.

By @@

February 4, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

Uh oh!

Rewrite!…took office with “gun pointed” his little dicktater.

By Dusty

February 4, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Glenn,@11:02

It is of little importance but I was referring to a post you made to “profit” last Tuesday late in the afternoon. It did not sound like PoFo.

Glad you think so highly of science. I wouldn’t have thought so from your previous post.

I continue to be excited about science. One of my children has recently passed the written and oral qualifiers for a PhD in bio-chemistry. That pleases me no end.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

GaVoter,

Never. Never ever. And not now. I’ve been in the heads of those swine for too long to want to join them. Besides, I could never figure out how to square it with my religious faith; Lincoln, incidentally, had the same problem, except that as far more brilliant and accomplished political person he suffered from the problem far more accutely, so I intend no silly comparison. Irrespective of belief or non-belief, my admiration of the few evidently good ones is directly proportionate to my detestation of the great many, mostly obviously, bad ones.

I do believe in displacement, though, which is why I think that the few good people, e.g. Dr. Paul, should remain in Congress, where they can occupy seats that otherwise would, in all statistical likelihood, be occupied by knaves.

The very reason for Rep. Paul’s success to date is the authenticity and sheer Honest Abe quality to which you allude. I agree.

The “generalization” to which you referred was really a prediction: that the next President will not be as he or she now seems to the People. Hence the rude-awakening & deepening-anger parts of my clairvoyant prognostication.

I probably would vote for Paul if I thought he’d keep us safe.

By Political Scapegoat

February 4, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

It didn’t sound like me, because it wasn’t Oh Dusty One. Maybe you should join in my Glenn boycott. Just turn your back to him. Pass gas in his direction for emphasis.

By Dusty

February 4, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Good grief, @@

I didn’t think politicians could come within sight of polling places. I guess he knows just how far to go. What is “your” sheriff trying to prove by searching neighborhood children? Law ‘n’ order or something?

By TW

February 4, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Glenn - thanks for thinking of me. No, not a lawyer - just an average joe who likes the Mexicans’ work ethic, music, food, and women. And I don’t have to travel out of my sub to be symbiotic. We have a wonderful opportunity with the undocumented worker to show the world, and ourselves, what a truly great nation we are. If the last eight years have shown us one thing it is that hate never wins…unless your bin laden, as it’s starting to look like ‘dead or alive’ was just a joke.

John McCain ‘08

Patriotism Before Profit

By getalife

February 4, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

While the gop vote to stay the course with McInsane, more wars, no clue on the economy, etc… this Dem election is close as the Super Bowl.

All football analysts, including myself, were dead wrong and picked the Pats.

Anything can happen and the lesson learned is the so called experts like jim are full of crap.

Let the people vote and see what happens.

By Dusty

February 4, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

PoFo, dear heart, you do make me smile with your little vulgarisms, ‘specially when you are bored. (But, cut it out! I’m supposed to be lady-like!)

Boycott Glenn?? Nawww..his heart is in the right place.

Valentines Day is coming. Now be nice.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

Dusty, my misidentification of the culprit dates to my period of identifying profit as one of PoFo’s many faces. That was before they lit into one another; even PoFo’s not schitzy enuff to play both bear and bull simultaneously, so my having jacked PoFo’s name (and YES IT WAS my first hijacking) was gratuitous. Should’ve stuck it to profit, the great anti-Semite and No. 1 fan of the Shoah.

But at least I managed to get PoFo to boycott me—-something I’ve been begging him for months to do.

What did I—-as distinguished from someone else stealing my name—-ever post that was anti-scientific? Good grief! I work with MIT and Harvard Med!

By Dusty

February 4, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Glenn 12:10

Why don’t you go back and read your own post of last Tuesday? I don’t think you remember what you wrote.

By GaVoter

February 4, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

I KNEW it! Glenn, you are so a politician. Who else could have told me precisely what I wanted to hear? You have earned my vote as VP for either McCain or Romney. I’m sorry though. If Straight Talkin’ Ron Paul makes it to the White House (everyone has a right to freedom of dreams), then I can’t support you for you would most likely be railing him for his foreign policy.

By jbmlaw

February 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Dear PoFo @ 10:46, until this all blows over, suggest you use the blogname Till Eulenspiegel.

By Political Foreskin

February 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

jbm, what are you talkin’ ‘bout? I’ve been holding spouse’s hand at a chemo session. Do I have to go back and read the trolls? No.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Dusty, I read the whole string from last Tuesday, January 29. A post mortem on our campaign, the usual defense of conservatism, and some dampening of the more extreme accusations of GOP candidates. Nothing about science.

If you’re talking about the “bedpan” exchanges, I’ll look them up but I recall that those happened when there’d been an outbreak of false posting in my name while I was at the church office. So I’ll look at my calendar and track down the right blog and see which statements I need to disclaim and which to own up to.

GaVoter,

If Ron Paul will toss me the keys to the VP’s residence, I’ll let him be as isolationist as he wants.

Every hack has his price.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

@@,

Old Southern traditions die hard, eh? If you can videotape that cracker next time and drop the tape to a friend I could designate, arrangements could be made to air it in such a way that either criminal charges (possibly) and constitutional complaints (definitely) would be forthcoming. That buffoon is serious in his buffoonery; why shouldn’t we be serious too?

By OneForTheRoad

February 4, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Jim,

I would not normally partake in an event of such astrological proportion. I am, therefore I think I will but just this once give you the outcome — or at least as much as my seer’s ouija allows. Besides, I only have enough for one reading — $9.95 + tax. The seer says that our next great leader will be gray-haired and will also be full of it (Sorry Ron, maybe in 2012?). The seer also says that this will become known only when the great leader chooses to tell us. Finally, the seer says we can choose anyone for the VP position for that person is of no import….something. The seer said to deposit an additional $9.95 + tax.

That is all.

Anyway, that’s what I always say.

By vandstra

February 4, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

double yawn

By @@

February 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

jbm, what are you talkin’ ‘bout?

The highs and lows of “germaine” PoliFore!

High german — “owl mirror”

Low german — “wipe the arse”

Dusty may be a lady but I’d be happy to give you the benefit of a “full moon”.

Dusty:

Little Victor seeks to prove that he can control his people while having little control over his own ego. (Don’tcha just love the resemblance? Hitler)

He’s been a very costly little prick.

Glenn:

As you can ^^^ see…Little Victor is not a “cracker”? He exploits his own for personal gain.

By Dusty

February 4, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Well, Glenn,

May I suggest you read the “EarMarks Editorial”, Jan. 29 @ 5:24 where you equate a Masters Degree in Biology with a Bachelors Degree in Engineering?

After that, forget it. Besides, I have to leave shortly and will not be here for discussion.

By Hillary's CROCKodile tears

February 4, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

Oprah should have endorsed Hillary. Just like Oprah’s mostly female sob story guests (and female audience), Hillary is trying to gain sympathy from her audience. The only difference is that she is doing it for votes. The latest boo-hoo episode was at the Yale Child Study Center - one has to wonder wonder, do they study why irresponsible women have children they can’t afford that the rest of we taxpayers have to support? Anyway, let us pray people will see through this phony and elect Obama as the Dem candidate. Here’s an interesting discovery as of late about Hill-Bill: the further she slides, the more her pseudo husband, the other phony, shuts up. He sure hasn’t been ranting much lately and has definitely backed off on Obama. That rather takes the fun out of things.

By Redneck Convert

February 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Well, I reckon I’m the only one that talked about how Sister Dusty emptyed bedpans for Indians. In the past she mentioned working with Indians in a hospitle, and knowing how Dusty writes and thinks, I figured about the onliest thing she could do in a hospitle was empty bedpans. How was I to know she worked in a lab?

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

@@,

I take your meaning, of course, and I’m quite accustomed to power maniacs. That man’s a Cracker. I meant to hit as hard with that epithet as I did do. I don’t care about his uniform or about his stylish revival of the Mexico City Olympic Black Glove Look, or about the type of melanin he boasts; man’s a Cracker. Capital “C”. In politics—-and this is finally sinking in with John McCain—-you are whom you bed.

Dusty:

I did find that part, after I’d accurately summarized it for you, here, today. And evidently I was right: you still are unaware of the equivalency of the two degrees. How you could possibly draw from that post the conclusion that I am anti-scientific or somehow disrespectful of Life Sciences, is beyond me.

And now I’m starting to resent it.

By Producer

February 4, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

McCain/Crist. Take it to the bank.

By luckystrike

February 4, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

I’m glad someone brought up Hillary Clinton. Try this on for size. If you do not sign up for the Hillary health care plan, a plan will be chosen for you and your wages will be docked accordingly. http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/hillarywillgarnishyourwagesifyoudontbuy_healthcare/ Well, I have to agree with that in a way. Over a third of the people with no health care plan in this nation CAN afford health insurance, but instead choose to not do so to drive that nice car, have that nice 52” LCD, high speed internet, satellite with HD channels, take vacations, go to sporting events, have nice clothes, etc. etc. etc. Naturally you never hear the liberals or the media talk about those people. But any social health care plan run by the government would be a disaster, let alone something concocted up like a steaming witch’s brew by Mrs. Clinton and her cohorts.

By Dusty

February 4, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

RedNeck 1:16

How were you to know? No way ‘cause you aint gotta clue ‘bout nuthin’.

Bye now.

By Ron

February 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

This just in:

By Cointreau

February 4, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Indeed, HillCROCK, it does take the fun out of things. But the man is still too impatient to hold his fire against Obama after Wednesday, and against McCain all the way till Sept. 4. So, more fun soon!

By Dusty

February 4, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

And you, Glenn, are unaware in your unbalanced way that a degree in journalism is equal to a freshman class in biology. Whew…(Sorry, Jim Wooten, not in your case.)

Glenn, if you “work” with MIT and Harvard Med they are in big trouble.

Goodbye.

By Curious Observer

February 4, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

luckystrike @1:27,

Why don’t you get educated about Hillary’s healthcare proposal before mouthing your anti-government tirade like a Georgia cracker? It’s pretty clear you’re reviving the old welfare-mom-in-a-Cadillac claptrap you conservatives used to slice government assistance to the bone.

Your notion that people aren’t buying health insurance so that they can buy 32” flat-screen TVs and fancy cars is about as blatantly racist and prejudicial as you can possibly get. Congratulations upon your low-downness. You are the kind of scum that has created our current mess.

Hillary proposes using tax credits to help individuals acquire coverage and small businesses to provide it to employees. It is not “government run.” If people like the coverage they now have, they can keep it. Nobody who now has a physician he/she likes will be forced to go to another one—so much for one of Dusty’s objections. And presumably, the tax credits will be generous enough to provide coverage for people who now are deemed uninsurable or would otherwise be priced out of the market. In short, the plan would get rid of the cherry-picking that health insurance companies now do.

The plan also requires every person to be insured, so that your idea that people will be diverting resources rather than purchasing health coverage is pure bunk.

You and your echoes would willingly see the sorry situation we now have continue—the wealthiest nation on earth with third-world mortality and morbidity. Well, most of this nation is morally better than that. We’ll do it without you.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I don’t have a degree in journalism. In my day we didn’t take degrees in that field anyway; we apprenticed. I did do 21 undergraduate units in biology (marine), but I don’t take that to mean that I’m a scientist.

I am, in fact, a social scientist, have worked for Berkeley, Stanford, and UCLA, and have lectured at a number of other universities. You’ll find, in my posts of last week, several defenses of the sciences over against my own social sciences.

I attended science schools for my undergraduate and doctoral work. The degree requirements for a B.S. in engineering were roughly equivalent to the already stringent requirements for the B.S. in Biology or Physiology. (I was involved in boosting Biology requirements in CA, to encompass more of the new genetics; biotech is crucial to CA’s economy.) This in no way belittles Biology. I was merely commenting that the undergraduate degree in Engineering does not warrant a Bachelor’s sheepskin, but rather a Master’s, while the Master’s Degree in Engineering uniquely licenses a professional specialization. That’s all.

That you think that I would mock nursing or the Life Sciences, is simply egregious.

And we’re doing fab work in Cambridge, where the scientists are wise enough to know what a social scientist is good for.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

Excuse me: Engineering Bachelor ~ Biology Master.

This drives me crazy anyway, Dusty, as I am, as part of my profession, an anti-credentialist. I work in the [sheep]Skin Trade, though, so I thought to weigh in on your silly debates about diplomas.

By Stumpin

February 4, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

I wonder what final form government mandated health insurance would have. Would it require everyone to have a minimum level of coverage such as a $25 co-pay, hospitalization, drug dependency, maternity, well-care, $5000 deductible, $2M Lifetime cap? Would the cost per month be determined by averaging costs nationwide; would there be an adjustment based on cost-of-living variations nationwide; would out-of-country coverage be allowed? Would a 25 year old male in college be required to purchase the same coverage as a 50 year old contractor in Iraq and would each pay the same premium and have the same deductible? Universal coverage sounds nice. It sounds as nice as Ohhhhh…World Peace. I just think there may be a few bugs to work out of the plan. I sure hope no one comes back with something like signing up everyone for an expanded Medicare. That’s right there behind VA care. I know. Give us all the same thing that our legislators get and let the legislators pay for it out of pocket. That’s fair.

By Dusty

February 4, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

I think I will take part in PoFo’s Glenn boycott, except for that gas part. He is proving his density today. Ha.

By GaVoter

February 4, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Diplomas, Certificates, Patents, etc., are very useful for filling up otherwise blank wall space — unless you have a degree in interior design. They would probably paint right over them. Oops, did I belittle any interior design degree holders. I hope not. I wonder if there is a PhD in Interior Design.

By Curious Observer

February 4, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Stumpin @2:16

Hillary’s plan calls for giving all citizens access to the range of Federal Employee Health Benefit plans now available to federal employees, including Congress. Right now there are some 24 health insurance plans available under FEHB, everything from Blue Cross/Blue Shield to HMO and PPO plans. None of them call for $5,000 deductibles or anything like that. Get online and google FEHB. Then you can review the plan selection. As employee group plans, they cannot exclude people because of preexisting conditions.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Well, there’s a Ph.D. in Urban Design. Dunno about Interior Design, except that a collage of frames on a “vanity” wall can look good as long as there’s something more graphical than a sheepskin enframed thereupon. U.S. Patent certificates are quite beautiful, however.

There’s a long-running debate in Higher Education about whether, and when and exactly how, to stop putting engineering students through six years’ worth of work in four only to hand them an undergraduate degree. Meanwhile, their degree requirements only mount. It’s one of the things about U.S. education that’s way out of whack.

So “Hillary has trouble attracting men.” Yes, I suppose we could trot out “them old backyonder isms”, but for the fact that she also has trouble attracting women’s votes in the expected numbers.

It seems farcical to think that one would have to presume a deep psychopathology such as misogyny to account for anyone’s distaste for a person as venal as she. How about just, “I guess they don’t like her.”

She can always trot out the “isms” at Sour Grapes Time. It’s a Democratic tradition, after all.

By @@

February 4, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

I’ll weigh in on the Dusty/Glenn *dustUP.

Glenn, I’ve revisited your posts of the 29th, and I think it was your condescension of one while trying to boost the other than was offensive to Dusty. I read it as condescending as well, but whatever floats your boat I say.

Dusty maintains a high-water mark here in my humble opinion.

Your selective preference for Cracker was odd as well. PRICK suits me just fine as it knows no color, just character.

By Stumpin

February 4, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Curious Observer,

I was just reading Hillary’s piece in the WSJ today and I saw where she wants to get everyone insured, give out generous tax credits, cut unnecessary spending, end health discrimination, etc. How does this new plan differ from her plan when Bill was in office? In order to get everyone insured, will she fight to get all illegal immigrants jobs or bus tickets? How generous are these tax credits? How much will all premiums have to go up in order to force all insurers to provide group coverage to individuals?

Don’t get me wrong now, Curious. I want to see a good plan as much as anyone. Right now, my former employer is still providing subsidized coverage for me. When I first retired, they were providing coverage for my family for less than I now pay for just myself. You are preaching to the choir. I just happen to believe that this problem will not be solved so easily as Hillary would have us believe.

By MELO

February 4, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

“Mr. Romney has spent about $100 million to have basically the same number of delegates that I have, and I’ve spent about $7 million. You know with the business background he has you’d think at this point he’d come to the conclusion that he’s not selling his soap very well…. “I’ve got a suggestion, Mr. Romney. Rather than me drop out, why don’t you give it up and go back to Boston?” HUCKABEE

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

@@,

Are you kidding? A sweep search of every young African American male, with no evident Probable Cause? Now what kind of prick would do a thing like that?

A: A Cracker.

You’re dead wrong about the condescension. I was honoring the field of Engineering and the onerous training engineers are put through with not enough to show for it. Dusty is still ignorant of this, and if you take my saying so as condescending, then whatever floats your boat I say.

Pegging me as anti-scientific and contemptuous of nursing is beyond the pale.

I also have no idea to what second post of the 29th you could be referring.

By @@

February 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

Well phooey! Make that “than” a “that” and be done with “it”.

By Truthifier

February 4, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Wow, it didn’t take long for the topic of today’s post to be completely lost. It looks like jbmlaw and Glenn were the only one who took Jim’s challenge and even Glenn did it tonge in cheek. I guess you can lead the bloggers to the water but you can’t make them blog. Or something like that.

By GaVoter

February 4, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

There is no doubt in my mind that our education system is something to be studied. I remember back when I was going for my second undergrad degree in engineering at a different college and I was trying to get as many transfer credits as I could. I had to bring in text books and for several classes in fluid dynamics I even went through the books chapter by chapter with a professor. Grueling. You would think that there would be more consistency and uniformity between schools. Well, maybe there is now. But I digress. The patents are more visually interesting, Glenn. I never considered it as vanity — just a sense of accomplishment.

By @@

February 4, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

Glenn:

or B: A prick!

I read not only your post, but all posts that encircled the discussion on the 29th.

profit’s, jbmlaw’s and yours. It was a group thingy.

profit belittles Dusty and jbmlaw’s degrees (if not them personally,) and you join profit in boosting the value of his/hers. Kind of a backhand return—one that a McEnroe would argue was in-bounds when it was, in fact, out-of-bounds.

I’m not the referee here. I’m a spectator—a fan.

Swoosh…Swish…Swoosh…Swish.

By Ace Mulholland

February 4, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

That’s my boy Mike! Right on time! I LOVE it!

Wonder what he wants. HHS? Education?

No, not HHS. Hillary will want Donna back in there, and clo-o-o-se.

Education then. NEA will be eating out of OUR hands for a change!

By OneForTheRoad

February 4, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

Well, Truthifier. Talk’s cheap. Put up them astrological results of yours.

By Disgusted

February 4, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

McCain—one month from today. VP: Crist.

Hillary—after the third round at the convention, with Edwards delivering the nominating speech and pitching in his 26 delegates. VP: Edwards.

By @@

February 4, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

Oh, and Glenn:

If love means “never having to say you’re sorry” I guess one could say I’m “HOT” for you???

By Frank

February 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

We have heard a lot of feedback from Romney supporters all over the country that feel like they are not getting the real picture about Governor Romney’s chances of winning the Republican nomination for President of the United States. Many people say that the information they do receive always paints a picture of Governor Romney as losing this race. You are entitled to know how Governor Romney is truly doing in this race. PLEASE FORWARD this information on to friends and family and help get the word out about the truth about Governor Romney’s campaign!

The TRUTH is this: Governor Romney CAN and SHOULD win the Republican nomination for President of the United States. This is a two-man race between Governor Romney and John McCain and Governor Romney is literally only a few points/delegates behind! Senator McCain would like everyone to believe that somehow Governor Romney is too far behind to ever catch up. That is NOT true. We need to rally behind Governor Romney, because only a slight increase in support among conservatives is all that’s needed to tip the scales in favor of Governor Romney and conservative change!

People shouldn’t think that McCain has this rapped up. They need to understand the tremendous support that Governor Romney already has. Consider the following:

1) Governor Romney has led for most of this race and is still positioned well to win the nomination! Until recently Governor Romney has handily led the delegate count. Though he is currently in second place in the delegate count since the Florida Primary, by CNN’s count Governor Romney has 6% of the support he needs to win and John McCain ONLY HAS 8%. Translation = Governor Romney is not trailing far behind; in reality, he is right on McCain’s heels and is well-positioned to succeed in the upcoming primaries because he is the true conservative.

2) Governor Romney is the True Conservative in this race. Governor Romney supported the Bush Tax Cuts and supports making them permanent, he supports appointing conservative judges and justices like John Roberts and Samuel Alito, and he will confront and defeat radical Islamic Jihad, end our energy dependence on foreign oil, curb federal spending, and sustain traditional American values. But don’t just take my word for it.

3) True conservative thinkers all support Governor Romney. For a small sampling, consider the following sources:

• Michael Reagan, son of President Ronal Reagan: http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/MichaelReagan/2008/01/31/johnmccainhates_me

• Mark Levin: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDEzMDYzZjBkMDNhYjk0ZjdhZmJlZWNkMWQ1NjI4MGI=

• Sean Hannity: “I’ll tell you right now, and I’ve not announced this, but I will be voting for Mitt Romney in this campaign. It’s the first time I’ve stated it publicly. I’ll state it now.” (“Sean Hannity Radio Show,” 1/31/08.)

• Laura Ingraham: “All right, I’m going to see your endorsement and raise you an announcement: February 12th is the big D.C. primary, I’m pulling the lever for Mitt Romney. No doubt about it. No hesitation.” (“The Laura Ingraham Show,” 2/1/08)

• Lars Larson: “It’s time for the GOP to pick a real Republican standard bearer. I’ve been keeping my powder dry on this question for months till I had the chance to talk to all of the potential nominees. I’ve done that now, and I’m left with only one conclusion. Governor Mitt Romney is the best choice for 2008.” (“The Lars Larson Show,” 2/1/08)

4) Governor Romney has National Support: Listed at the bottom of this email are just some of the additional names of the endorsements of Governor Romney from elected officials, national figures and several publications and newspapers. (Feel free to add yours as well when you forward this on!)

5) Governor Romney has tremendous financial support, from people just like you. Not including ANY of Governor Romney’s personal contributions to his campaign, Governor Romney’s campaign has raised more money than any candidate in the history of the Republican Party! He has raised roughly $20 million more than John McCain thus far. And that financial support remains strong; in fact, the day after placing second in the New Hampshire primary—what some were calling a “big loss” to McCain—Governor Romney held a fundraiser and raised $5 million in one day. By comparison, the democrat winner in NH, Hillary Clinton, also held a fundraiser that day and raised only $700,000. This relates directly to his ability to stay the course and beat the Democrat nominee in November.

6) Governor Romney is the most electable Republican because he can fight the fight. I just mentioned money raised. Money will mean a lot in the coming months! John McCain is currently spending as much money as he brings in and is $4.5 million in debt. The Democrats have raised hundreds of millions of dollars and if Senator McCain becomes the nominee, he will have no money with which to compete with the Democrats. The Democrats will bury him with the sheer size of their war chests. He CANNOT compete with them financially.

7) Senator McCain CANNOT beat the Democrats. You cannot beat the Democrats by acting like a Democrat. John McCain has sided with the Democrats on issues from supporting amnesty for illegal immigrants, attacking the 1st Amendment with campaign finance reform, opposing drilling for oil in ANWR to reduce our reliance on foreign oil, and he voted TWICE against the Bush tax cuts. John McCain was reported to have considered running as John Kerry’s running mate in 2004. You can’t beat Democrats at their game, you need someone who talks AND acts like a true Republican leader. That is clearly not John McCain; that person is Governor Romney.

We need to unite NOW behind Governor Romney. People ought not to vote for John McCain simply because they aren’t given all the information about how strong Governor Romney is as a candidate. PLEASE FORWARD this on so that those who believe in having a strong military, and a strong economy, and strong families know that Governor Romney CAN win this election.

Governor Romney is as strong as ever in this race. And with all of us united behind true conservative principles, Governor Romney WILL win. Please forward this email on and vote for Governor Mitt Romney.

Best regards,

Trent

Governor Romney Endorsements (Feel free to add your endorsement at the bottom) Governor Matt Blunt (Mo.) Lt. Gov. Jim Risch (Idaho) Brig. Gen. Thomas R. Mikolajcik Fmr. Governor Kenny Guinn (Nev.) Fmr.Gov. Robert Ehrlich (Maine) Gary Marx - Dir. Judicial Confirmation Network James Bopp Jr. - Legal counsel for the National Right to Life Committee Jay Sekulow - Chief Counsel American Center for Law and Justice Joe Earle - Director of Outreach Iowa Christian Alliance Attorney General John Suthers (Col.) Rep. Ander Crenshaw (Fla.) Rep. Bill Shuster (Pa.) Rep. Brian Bilbray (Calif.) Rep. Chris Cannon (Utah) Rep. Connie Mack IV (Fla.) Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (Calif.) Rep. Dave Camp (Mich.) Rep. Dennis Hastert (Ill.) Rep. Ed Whitfield (Ky.) Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (Fla.) Rep. Hal Rogers (Ky.) Rep. Howard McKeon (Calif.) Rep. Jack Kingston (Ga.) Rep. Jim McCrery (La.) Rep. Joe Knollenberg (Mich.) Rep. John Campbell (Calif.) Rep. John Carter (Texas) Rep. Kay Granger (Texas) Rep. Lamar Smith (Texas) Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (Ga.) Rep. Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.) Rep. Mike Conaway (Texas) Rep. Mike Rogers (Ala.) Rep. Mike Simpson (Idaho) Rep. Pete Hoekstra (Mich.) Rep. Phil Gingrey (Ga.) Rep. Ralph Regula (Ohio) Rep. Robert Aderholt (Ala.) Rep. Rodney Alexander (La.) Rep. Ron Lewis (Ky.) Rep. Tom Feeney (Fla.) Rep. Tom Petri (Wis.) Rep. Tom Price (Ga.) Rep. Tom Tancredo (Colo.) Rep. Vernon Ehlers (Mich.) Rep. Virginia Foxx (N.C.) Rep. Wally Herger (Calif.) Sen. Bob Bennett (Utah) Sen. Jim DeMint (S.C.) Sen. Judd Gregg (N.H.) Sen. Orrin Hatch (Utah) Sen. Thad Cochran (Miss.) Sen. Wayne Allard (Colo.) Dorothy Bush Koch - sister of Jeb & President George Bush (Tex.) Neil Bush - brother of the President Dr. John Wilke - Chair Right to Life Committee The National Review The Daily Nonpareil (IA) The Times-Republican (IA) Sioux City Journal (IA) The Grand Rapids Press (MI) The Oakland Press (MI) Las Vegas Review Journal (NV) Reno Gazette-Journal (NV) Elko Daily Free Press (NV) The Atlanta Journal-Constitution (GA) Hartford Courant (CT) Salt Lake Tribune (UT) Trent Christensen (MA)

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

@@, if it was a group thingie I wasn’t in the group. But I was Consultant to the CA Legislature on two of its Master Plans and I have grappled with the plight of engineering students, which plight is just that, and partly because it’s so little known outside the Higher Ed Biz.

Here’s a compromise on your little storm trooper. How ‘bout we call him “a fascist prick pandering to crackers”?

And how about we get some footage of him doing just that? Tell me when and where it’s likely to happen again, and I’ll get a crew there if you can’t tape it yourself.

Otherwise, your husband just might have to expect a call from N’Awlins…

[Petraeus/Honore 12]

By OneForTheRoad

February 4, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

I predict there can be only one winner but millions of losers. Exactly, how many losers you ask? Population of US minus the winner. Of course, that can only be true if we were all in this race together. We’re not. So forget it. You’re not all losers — only some of you. Especially those that did not vote for the winner. I could even be a winner. Of course, in order to improve my odds of being a loser, I could go buy a Lottery ticket.

By Curious Observer

February 4, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Amen to Frank. Please, please, please vote for Romney. Pretty please with sugar on it. We Democrats don’t want to have to use all the money it will take to beat McCain. Hillary and Obama both lead Romney by 10-12 points. Get that good conservative in there against them. In your heart, you know he’s Right.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

Frank,

Trent’s letter is good, especially point seven. To reverse the parties to which Harry Truman was referring: If you run a Democrat against a Democrat, the Democrat wins every time.

I keep looking at the appended list of endorsements, though, and its a pretty rum crew. I’m familiar with most everyone on the list. I respect exactly four of the Representatives, none of the state leaders, a couple of the NGO officers, one Senator, one of the journals and none of the newspapers except Sioux City’s.

Which is to say, I don’t care about that list as much as I do about the well reasoned letter and the fact that you posted it. I’d lose the laundry, if I were you.

By OneForTheRoad

February 4, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Hello all,

My name is ____ and I want you to know that I support Ron Paul for President. You should support Ron Paul for President because he is simply the best of the choices. He is honest. He is principled. He does what he says he will do. He is THE conservative candidate — not a phony such as Romney, Huckabee, or McCain. Thank you for your time and please vote. Vote Ron Paul.

Yours Truly,

Please fill in the blanks with your name and pass this along with a copy of the original. With your support, we may be able to get Jim Wooten to acknowledge Ron Paul as the only candidate worthy of the title “Conservative”.

By @@

February 4, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

(((How ‘bout we call him “a fascist prick pandering to crackers”?)))

Still doesn’t work Glenn unless you consider my county comprised of 75% to 80% African Americans (with the majority voting Democrat) as crackers.

Heck! I AM the “cracker” in its’ common usage, and I’m the one honking about the flagrant violation against these kids.

I’m a kid advocate. It doesn’t matter if their parents are ???crackers???

This difference of opinion we’re having reminds me of the ones I have with my husband. An obvious breakdown in communication.

Not to worry though…I declare the debate over.

It’s globally warm today.

Also, Little Victor is a litigious prick who has left my county unable to find an insurance company who’s willing to cover us as long as he’s the sheriff.

I believe the most recent payout in a lawsuit which he filed and lost was in the neighborhood of $35,000,000. That’s not counting the cost of his legal representation for which we also will end up paying.

It is my fondest hope that the voters will realize their BIG mistake in the next election.

You’re not from around here, are you?

By @@

February 4, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

I’m still in agreement on:

(Petraeus/Honore ‘12)

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

Nope. My immediate family are, now and for a long time. I was born and raised in CA. But I’ve been coming here all my life and do know your county and its rough demographics. I guess what I was trying to be elliptical about, because it’s racially awkward, is that his political ambition shows in his pandering to those beyond Clayton who would think it cool to (unconstitutionally) profile and then (unconstitutionally) search African American males for the benefit of voters qua voters. Couldn’t be more explicit that his ambitions lie elsewhere.

Maybe that’s just the cynicism I keep trying to exorcise. I do, truly. But then it’s cynicism borne of my own sins, such as handing out KFC certificates to black voters on Election Day while ignoring all other voters. On the other hand, I did edit a pretty important report on The Status of [young] African American Males, and the contents of that report make me raw with concern for that particular demographic, which clearly is not well protected by law enforcement in your County.

Also, as a professed Radical Republican I take the code phrase “You’re not from around here, are you?” as a badge of honor. I do love this place, but not in its unreconstructed condition.

You’re a good sport to take my teasing about your husband. I do it because I happen to find your expression of devotion to him adorable. So my goads are a kind of backhanded tribute to the two of you, and just plain mischievous.

You’re right to be an advocate of Genus Kid, irrespective of the kid’s provenance, unless your advocacy is at the expense of Genus Parent. (A characteristically Democratic, and quintessentially liberal, mode.)

Now what about my being an outsider precludes your helping to capture that fool on tape? Doing so would immediately involve far more powerful people than he.

By Deborah

February 4, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

Curious Observer is right on the national polls. Both Hillary and Barack beat Romney by a signficant margin. It’s much closer with McCain as the candidate. Check out the website, Real Clear Politics to see the results of the national surveys.

By @@

February 4, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this

Glenn:

Now what about my being an outsider precludes your helping to capture that fool on tape?

The polling place is closed and the primary is tomorrow? I’ll be gone all day and into the evening on Tuesday?

You’re right to be an advocate of Genus Kid, irrespective of the kid’s provenance, unless your advocacy is at the expense of Genus Parent.

My fondest HOPE? You can call it confidence if you wish. That’s what I call it, but then I’ve been voting Republican lately. I’m a believer in the capabilities of ALL.

By Pete77

February 4, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

What is up w/Curious Observer? I don’t think I’ve ever read such hatred and down right baseless accusations. Georgia ‘cracker’? Weren’t they a baseball team? lol. Did anyone here read anything racial in that post of 1:27 that s/he referenced in that tirade at 1:55? It is a fact that people, usually young and healthy people, choose to not purchase a health care plan and instead spend money on other things. Since when did spending money on nice cars, hi def tv, and other non-essentials become racial in nature? As far as the rest of Curious’ rampant tirade, only a fool would believe that Hillary would never ultimately move us all to a disastrous monstrosity known as government allocated and managed health care. MY health care doesn’t NEED any meddling from liberals. Half this nations problems are BECAUSE of government interference in health care. Judging from what ‘luckystrike’ posted, it struck a raw nerve with Curious O. The truth can be painful to some people, and the only thing they can resort to is personal attacks and warrantless accusations. We thank you for exposing your hatred, Curious O. For the rest, welcome to the world of intolerant liberalism and hate pigs from hell..

By OneForTheRoad

February 4, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

Soros’s approach to healthcare is truly the only viable one: Legalize all drugs and let everyone get so wasted that…well you know the rest of the story.

Anyway, that’s what I always say.

By JK

February 4, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

Zogby is a w-h-o-r-e. Think for yourselves, people. Regardless of which side of the aisle you’re on, you can listen to what the candidates say, research their records, formulate your own opinion and make a decision.

The media is spinning and churning and blowing hot air based on what will get them ratings and sell advertising. Zogby is just another player in the game that has robbed the people of this country of truth and integry. So is Wooten, but you already knew that, didn’t you?

By @@

February 4, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this

I just checked out luckystrike’s 1:27 and it made me think of SCHIP.

$80,000 annually and coverage for children up to the age of 25.

That’s all I saw.

By GaVoter

February 5, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this

An honest politician — an all-too-common oxymoron these days. There is an exception though.

Vote Ron Paul

By John Fincher

February 6, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

With the Democrats so split up, I believe it is time for the leadership in the Democratic Party to choose alternate candidates that can pull the party together. May I suggest such a ticket- an Al Gore and Sam Nun Ticket. How wonderful it would be to have candidate we could truly vote for rather than against!

Thanks John Fincher Canton GA