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The problems, potential of John McCain

John McCain presents a real dilemma for conservatives.

On national security, he’s fine; better than fine, even. As the alternative to either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, he’s super. He’ll not leave troops hanging out to dry and he’ll not be driven by politics into a face-saving exit from Iraq that invigorates jihadists — and makes our children’s world less safe.

On pork in the budget, he has been among the foot soldiers of the Reagan Revolution.

With a Republican majority in Congress, he’d be a good successor to George W. Bush.

With a Democratic majority, which is likely, he’s a crapshoot.

• Judicial appointments? Crapshoot. Would he nominate a Ruth Bader Ginsberg? Probably not. David Souter, entirely possible. To conservatives, no difference. He says now his appointments would be in the mold of the four strict constructionists on the U.S. Supreme Court. But that was the signal, too, when Souter was appointed.

• McCain now supports making the Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 permanent, something Clinton and Obama won’t. In Wednesday’s debate, McCain said his opposition to them stemmed from his determination to get spending reductions. “I disagreed when we had tax cuts without spending restraint,” he said.

He said at the time of the 2001 cuts that he opposed them because they benefited the wealthy. He and former U.S. Sen. Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island were the only two Republicans to oppose the $1.35 trillion in tax cuts.

He opposed further reductions offered by Bush in 2003 — and was joined in opposition by Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) and again by Chafee . “The tax cut is not appropriate until we find the cost of the war and the cost of reconstruction,” he said at the time.

On a number of other issues — illegal immigration and campaign finance restrictions among them — McCain has teamed with Democrats to offer legislation that alienates conservatives. They haven’t voted for him yet.

In three primaries he won, including Florida last Tuesday, McCain wins without conservatives. In New Hampshire, he lost the conservative vote to Mitt Romney, 38-30. In South Carolina, he lost it to Mike Huckabee, 35-26. And in Florida, he lost it again to Romney, 37-29. He won big among primary voters with a negative opinion of Bush, 40-26 in New Hampshire, 39-26 to Huckabee in South Carolina, and 45-23 in Florida. But of those who view Bush positively, he lost 27-32 in New Hampshire, 31-33 in South Carolina, and 31-35 in Florida.

McCain’s strength is among primary voters who consider themselves liberals, moderates and independents.

It’s highly unlikely that McCain will have the nomination sewed up by next Wednesday. Georgia and 20 other states vote Tuesday. Establishment Republicans eager to get a candidate quickly are rushing to endorse McCain.

Their eagerness is understandable. While it will be tough, the general election is very winnable for Republicans. Listening Thursday night to Obama and Clinton debate universal health care, Iraq and taxes, it was hard to imagine either of them prevailing when the cost and consequences of their ideas settle in on mainstream America. Hillary is a Clinton, with the advantages and baggage that brings. Obama’s much too confident in his rhetorical abilities; he’ll talk himself into trouble.

November’s winnable with a candidate who can unite the party. Bush planted some conservative seeds in his big-government presidency — school choice, health savings accounts and others. Four years or eight years of neglect, and the seeds are dead while big, costly, overregulated government sprouts.

Mitt Romney does represent the best chance to advance a conservative agenda, however slightly that may be with a Democratic Congress. That’s why more than 50 Georgia legislators endorsed him last week.

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By Luckoduh

February 2, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

{{{{McBushie’s strength is among primary voters who consider themselves liberals, moderates and independents.}}}}

It’s all I need to know about him.

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Here comes the flood of illegal campaign ads for John McBushie, in the form of propaganda meant solely to dishearten the supporters of Mitt Romney:

{{{{Countdown 2008: ROAD TO THE WHITE HOUSE: Romney gives up on the big states -Urinal}}}}

This will be followed tomorrow with the headline Romney considers dropping out if showing poor on Super Tuesday and then Monday you will see Romney campaign low on cash.

I wonder if the Atlanta Journal constitution has subjected itself to the scrutiny of McBush-Feingold restrictions?

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Check this out, the Urinal Ombudsman is pointing to their negative stories about the Republican candidates as proof that they are “balancing” their Kampaign Koverage:

{{{{Our really gifted political writer, Aaron Gould Sheinin, delivered such a piece on Jan. 17, taking a look at how elusive (they are divided, yay!) a perfect candidate has been for Georgia Republicans. On the Republican side, Sheinin has written about Mitt Romney’s faith (he’s a freaking Mormon, eeewwww!) and the rise in support for Mike Huckabee among evangelical (Uber Ultra Hardcore Rightwing Activists-Extremists!) voters. He’s also written stories about Fred Thompson and the appeal of Ron Paul.}}}}

Wild, ain’t it?

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{{{{In Thursday night’s Democratic presidential debate, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said she is sponsoring legislation to stop Mr. Bush from committing to permanent military bases or an “ongoing occupation” without congressional approval.}}}}

Congressional approval, eh? You mean like the vote Ku Klux Klintoon cast to make war on Iraq in the first place?

Now there’s a real solid commitment to our allies in Iraq, requiring our long term relationship to be at the every whim and pander of a bunch of flip flopping, corrupt, vote driving, never at work lowlifes, and that’s just the liberals

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{{{{U.S. strike that killed al-Qaida commander exposes entrenched Islamic militants operating near Pakistani base.-Urinal}}}}

{{{{News of the al-Qaida commander’s killing sparked a deadly response from militants. A suicide bomber rammed his explosives-laden car into a military checkpoint Friday about two miles from the missile attack, killing five Pakistani soldiers and wounding five others.-Urinal}}}}

So what sparked the ten million or so suicide bombings before this one?

I thought it was American bases in Saudi Arabia that drove these f’ers crazy?

Loony Islamics are touchy little people, aren’t they?

{{{{While Pakistan, a key U.S. anti-terror ally, would welcome the killing of al-Libi, the attack has infringed on its national sovereignty and exposed how terror suspects operate with relative freedom on its soil “It shows the presence of al-Qaida in the tribal regions: that there are sanctuaries and that local Taliban are giving them help and networking with them,” said Talat Masood, a retired general and defense analyst.-Urinal}}}}

Well, I would have never known!

You libs will lie about anything, won’t you?

I mean really, who was Snowflake talking about when he said he would “invade” Pakistan?

Duh.

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{{{{Poland, U.S. reach missile agreement, Russia upset-Urinal}}}}

Oh, no, don’t tell me that Russia is upset with us!

After all those wonderful years of love between us, they have always tended to their friendship with us with so much care, what will we ever do!

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I hit on this yesterday but the Urinal is still propagating the lie, so, here we go again:

Headline-

{{{{Ominous signs heighten gloom: Tougher job market: The U.S. economy lost 17,000 jobs in January, the first monthly loss since 2003, and wage growth was slow. -Urinal}}}}

Left out of the AJC “reporting”-

{{{{The 17,000 drop was in total payrolls — both government and private employers — in January. The government sliced 18,000 positions, while private employers added just 1,000 jobs.}}}}

The government losing jobs is a bad thing?

Since when?

Look at it this way 1) there are 18,000 losers that we no longer have to pay with our tax money and 2) those 18,000 losers are unable to do us anymore harm.

This is win-win.

Unless of course, you are violating public trust by trying to influence an election.

Right, AJC?

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You mean the newly “homeless,” tossed out of their 3500 square foot McMansions, aren’t going to just pull up a park bench and start whining, like the Urinal wants them to?:

{{{{Upbeat apartment industry likely to boost Post’s price}}}}

Uh-oh, here comes the “apartment bubble.”

Ha, ha, ha.

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Teeny tiny “news” paper print doesn’t make it go away, Urinal:

{{{{GM sales up 2.6%, Toyota sales down 2.6%.}}}}

People are still buying “shoddily manufactured” “gas guzzlers” despite the lib propaganda.

Bwa.

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And here I thought this was the only crime that liberals wanted punished by execution:

{{{{Action star Wesley Snipes was found not guilty of federal tax fraud and conspiracy charges Friday, but was convicted of three misdemeanor counts of failing to file a tax return.-Urinal}}}}

I know this is a joyous day in the land of the pinko, as is any day some one beats the law, but have you forgotten that taxes are your idea?

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One minute the world would be a better place without humans, the next minute the horsies won’t make it because the humans lost 5% of their million dollar portfolios:

{{{{Unstable times for horses- Personal financial woes, drought-driven spike in feeding costs push more owners to give away or sell their animals.-Urinal Front Page}}}}

Uh….what?

I sure would like to know how this crying jag is supposed to soothe the guilty consciences of you Godless heathens.

Seriously, are your lives so devoid of any fulfillment or purpose that you have to whine about every single solitary personal discomfort, no matter how minimal, well, except, of course, no whining for all the women living under the oppression of Islam.

What a bunch of weirdo sickies.

By Political Foreskin

February 2, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

Wooten called McCain a lovable fuzzball yesterday. The trouble with tribbles. The trouble with Wooten is that he aint got no horse.

By Luckoduh

February 2, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

Uh, sorry about the double post.

My bad.

By Curious Observer

February 2, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

How lovely it is to see the lunatic Right lose its control of the Republican party. Wooten typifies the reaction, viz., he ain’t us, but he’s better than Hillary or Obama.

With Rush denouncing the likely nominee and Saint Ann declaring she would support Hillary before voting for McCain, it’s pretty clear most sensible Republicans have abandoned the Rightists and are moving toward the center. Dubya’s disastrous administration must have cured them of their mental illness.

As our friend getalife would say, Bwa!

By ron

February 2, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

Good morning Jim,Love Saturdays,never know how far I’m going to have to scroll down to get past Luckoduh.

McCain,Hillary will be a dogfight.It will make interesting reading all the way through.McCain would have a good chance of winning it.Obama wouldn’t stand a chance against McCain.Hillary can beat Romney.My dog could beat Huckabee.Conservatives may have to swallow the bitter pill that they don’t have a candidate this time.I think there’s a clear message here.I think there’s a limit to how much conservatism the people will stand.

By tom teleology

February 2, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this

Here is an email that I tried to send to John McCain. Why does your website send me to “ERROR” when I try to search for “Illegal Immigration”? If you are looking for votes in Georgia you should be willing to address this issue.

This will be the dominant issue in the general campaign. Other U.S. Senators are saying that the issue: 1. “lights up the switchboards …” 2. “people are outraged …” 3. “response is off the wall …” 4. “it makes people madder …”.

Best wishes, and appreciate your efforts.

By Road Scholar

February 2, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

In your editorial you state that the Demo’s would leave the troops hanging out to dry. What? While they want to remove troops from the continuing quagmire that Iraq has become (under Repub terrible mgmt), they have continued to request an exit strategy from the Generals in charge. So are you now calling our Generals, particularly Petraeous (who has risen to manage a comprehensive, active strategy to address the troops and the Iraqi’s safety) incompetent? Oh, by the way, he has done it by encouraging COMMUNICATION, something Bush knows nothing about.

Also, Lucko, so government workers are losers? People who work for less money than the same type job in the private sector,and in most cases are dedicted to the public’s well being, are losers? The armed forces are government workers! Your hemeroids are the only thing kepping you from being a perfect a*******hole!!!

By Political Foreskin

February 2, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Dont worry, duhng, you’re forgiven. nobody read the first one, you stooge. You’re quite mad, you know.

Wooten called McCain a lovable fuzzball yesterday. The trouble with tribbles, eh? The trouble with conservatives is that they aint got no horse in this race.

There is only one way the GOP can win. They have to swiftbloat the girl. Find out when she gets PMS. Then cross reference all the nasty remarks she’s made to the time when her cycle is at it’s worst. Then you’ve got a legitimate election-winning objection to having any woman with her finger on the button. It’s your only chance, why cant any of you see that?

Somebody’s got to DO something! What are you all, tin-constituents?

By Old Material

February 2, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

Here comes the tribble routine again.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

By GaEducated

February 2, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Jim,

I hear you. I just don’t buy the arguments you give for choosing Romney. I am more concerned about him caving to the Democrats on health care, for example, than I am about McCain. I am more concerned about his apparent lack of compassion for illegal immigrants that came here to work in the construction industry and in our fields. If the businesses and private individuals that hired these illegal immigrants are correct to assert that they could not find “locals” to fill the jobs (the very stance that Bush has taken), then are (or were) they incorrect in their acceptance of people lacking US citizenship but willing to work for the offered pay? I don’t believe Romney’s answer of rounding them up and shipping them out now that we are through with them is the correct answer. Regardless of how they got here, the American way — the compassionate way — surely is not to toss them out because they now pose too much of a financial burden or security threat. As with Iraq, there is also no perfect solution to this problem. The problems will persist and we must deal with them in an American way. For this conservative, McCain is not my ideal choice and neither is Romney or any other on the ballots. Decisions, decisions….at least we still have choices — for what they’re worth.

By the inevitable

February 2, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

To think that there are nimwits that won’t even consider ‘global warming’. Even changes that may not be caused by humans. Nope, everything’s fine. Just fine. ‘Scuse me while I drop another C note (i. e. give more money to Middle Eastern terrorists like Saudi Arabia) filling up my Hummer.

The persistent and dramatic decline in the snowpack of many mountains in the West is caused primarily by human-induced global warming and is not the result of natural variability in weather patterns, researchers reported yesterday.

Using data collected over the past 50 years, the scientists confirmed that the mountains are getting more rain and less snow, that the snowpack is breaking up faster and that more rivers are running dry by summer.

“Uhhhhhhh, Wilbur, Andy, luckoduh, you think maybe we should at least look into this, and not just pretend that all is well and global warmining isn’t just Al Gore’s ‘get rich’ scheme?”

Naaaaaaahhhh.

Wheeeee! Lake Lanier could soon be Georgia’s largest sandbox!

Novices to the Washington Post website will have to set up a free login account to read this. Or just go to “bugmenot”, like liberals do when they don’t want to get on the email lists of fascist reactionary rags. I’m sure even your average far right mental cripple is capable of doing that.

By ron

February 2, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

PoFo,You should have attended sex ed classes.You don’t seem to know a lot about older women.

By Political Foreskin

February 2, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

When they captured Geronimo, he was riding a horse and leading four other riderless horses along a path. His wife was on foot trailing him. When they asked Geronimo why he was riding and his wife was walking, he said, “Cause she aint got no horse”.

Well, that’s the Democrats in this race. They’ve got two great candidates which could become the dream team. The GOP is trailing behind. They aint got no horse.

By Dusty

February 2, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

So PoFo@9:27

You would swiftboat Hillary on the fact that she is a woman and therefore must get the crazies with PMS? That seems to be your pipedream and we know what kind of pipe.

Would you mind telling me what causes men to get the crazies just at the thought of having a woman for President? Ask the Taliban. They solved their problem. Throw those women in a burka and beat ‘em if they misbehave.

Now I wouldn’t vote for Hillary ever. Not because of PMS but because she is a power crazed woman which is just as bad as a power crazed man.

But again, what is it with some of you men? PTP (Persistent Testosterone Prejudice)?? Maybe the drug companies have found something that will help you.

Yeah, I know…just a joke..etc.etc.etc. as the King of Siam said in the movie. OOps!! Off subject…

By Redneck Convert

February 2, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

Well, my vote’s for the Rev. Huckabee. This McCain is just a librul Democrat dressed up as a godly Republican. He was against the tax cuts and if it wasn’t for them alot of real rich people would be poorer today. I know all that money they are socking away will trickle down and I can’t hardly wait for it. But I’m still waiting. I guess it will take a few more years before people like jbmlaw have to use a bulldozer to move the cash away from their door so they can get in. When it starts trickling down I’m going to stop driving the beer truck and buy a new Ford F-450 pickup and a new doublewide and live off of the fat of the land.

This librul McCain also helped write the law that keeps rich people from shoveling in a lot of money in campaigns and running Swiftboat ads and such. Its just a shame he can’t see you ought to be able to use your money to get what you want. Your money is your freedom. So free speech means a big shot like jbmlaw should have 100 times as much freedom of speech as common people. That’s just the way it is and should be. They pay the taxes so they ought to call the shots.

And this librul McCain would let the illegals overrun this country. I can see right away when I make a delivery that a bunch of Mexicans are looking at my truck and want to drive it. They way they look at our women. And if McCain gets in they will take over the jobs and I will be out mowing yards trying to make a living. The minute they give the illegals drivers liscences is the minute I lose my job.

Anyhow, I’m just disgusted with the way things is turning out but its better McCain than this Hillary woman or Osama. If they get in men will be lining up to marry each other and our poor soldiers that don’t want nothing except to be left alone to fight the towelheads will have to come home hanging their heads in shame and they will be doing abortions on every street corner. And we will have Socialized Medicine so just about anybody can get doctoring. People like me work hard to get to the point we can see a doctor when we want to, and now we could be seeing just about anybody getting in to the waiting room. It ain’t right and it ain’t Christian. We could be seeing all the people that God wants to die staying well and overrunning us. You can’t be butting up against Gods Will without seeing this nation go downhill.

The worst part is this McCain could stoop to working with the librul Democrats in Congress. A real Republican wouldn’t do that. A real Republican would veto anything a librul Democrat Congress passed and thumb his nose at the libruls and call them Traders.

Have a good day everybody.

By Dusty

February 2, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

PoFo2 9:48

If Dems have a dream team, I’d hate to see a nightmare. You may have a horse but he’s got two broken legs.

Geronimo lost out too. You are following in his footsteps.

By profit

February 2, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

If I were a soldier on my second tour of Iraq, I sure would be voting for the candidate who promises to keep me in Iraq for another four years —- NOT. Dusty and her ILK just need to STFU about Iraq, seeing as how they have never set foot in the country. Yo Dirt Hag, until one or more of your RUG RATS does a 15 month tour of Iraq, your opinion on the subject is just as worthless as your life, so STFU.

By Dusty

February 2, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

RedNeck 9:54

Your cornbread counseling is burnt out today. Too long, too phony and your cover is blown. May your life be filled with pinko flamingos and other trivia of the trite. (Hey, don’t you like that last line?)

By Dusty

February 2, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

profit@10:00

So…when were you in Iraq? And speaking of worthless, keep right on posting. Even idiots have freedom of speech.

By profit

February 2, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

DIRT BALL: I opposed to war in Iraq from the beginning, I do not need to go there to see the slaughter. You war mongering old hags, on the other hand, need to have you ugly old noses rubbed in the blood and gore, then you fat ugly butts kicked soundly for the murderous rampage you have supported over the last two terms of the Chimp-in-chief. Now, STFU, HAG

By Glenn

February 2, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

The great blogospherical profit

Would reign on parades as he saw fit.

Said the prof., “With my street takings,”

“And sought-after playthings,”

“You’ve got nothin’ on me; now, come off it!”

By Dusty

February 2, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

profit@10:24

You’re a mutt with a mouth that makes a sewer look good. I’m not interested in your output.

In the meantime, I have places to go and things to do.

Hasta la vista!! See ya’ later or maybe not…if I’m lucky.

By profit

February 2, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Dusty, Drop Dead

By Luckoduh

February 2, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Road Scholar February 2, 2008 9:12 AM Also, Lucko, so government workers are losers? People who work for less money than the same type job in the private sector,and in most cases are dedicted to the public’s well being, are losers?}}}}

Ahh, yes, how could I have forgotten?

Our government is slap full of tireless public servants, each one a yeoman in their chosen field and my, how they do hate to see long lines of people waiting on them!

How else will Ku Klux Rodham’s idea of converting tollbooth workers into brain surgeons have a chance without this invaluable pool of talent that is our government?

Road Kill: Ever think about stepping outdoors and getting some air?

Been to the post office lately?

Spent some time immobilized on the downtown connector?

My biggest wonder about these 18,000 is how sorry they must have been to be fired by the government, which is nearly an impossibility.

I guess we can only hope that their positions were eliminated along with them.

And by the way, lumping our brave soldiers into the same pile as VA hospital government goonies is a non starter, there is something about bullets whizzing by your head that focuses the mind.

It doesn’t hurt to have private sector support from the likes of Lockheed Martin Marietta’s FA22 either.

The government, if it undertook such a task, would all be in some kommittee meeting wondering why the wings wouldn’t flap, like a bird’s do.

By Disgusted

February 2, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Those 18,000 government workers weren’t fired, moron. They retired and were not replaced. Haven’t you heard about the aging of the federal work force? Every day about 500 retire.

And if they ever are replaced, it will be with contractors hired by Lockheed and other Republican campaign supporters. These contract employees don’t count against the federal employment numbers. That’s why an organization like CDC has a little over 9,000 civil service workers and 7,000 contractors. The latter get paid better, and their employers get a healthy cut too, but who cares? It’s just the taxpayers’ money.

Get yourself educated before you start firing off your numbskull remarks.

By Abomi Nation

February 2, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

What about you Luckoduh? Whats your worth to society? For over 3 years now you have spent 7 days a week on the ajc blogs posting mostly nonsense. These blogs are your life.

It seems to me that the laziest government employee still offers a hell of a lot more than you.

Please tell us, what is the value of an internet addicted person that has dedicated his life to a couple of mostly useless blogs?

By @@

February 2, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

Jim, I like your use of the word crapshoot to describe McCain. I’m thinking scatter gun here….true conservatives would prefer not to be hit with McCain’s liberal cowpies but we may have to lay low and shoot from the blind once he’s flying high in the Oval Office. The question is will he continue to be a Maverick or will he Steer us in the right direction with his one-shot opportunity?

McCain has, in the past, chosen to exhibit a lack of confidence in the American people, but the dem candidates would have a hard time opposing him on that front since it’s the platform on which they habitually run. They’d be shootin’ themselves in the foot if they tried.

While I support McCain’s logical approach on the war, I have a difficult time with his emotional response to Guantanamo and coersive interrogations. All are intrisically linked in my opinion.

I would prefer the Red Bull that is Romney, but…………?

I’ll be checking the pasture on Wednesday.

The thing that most fascinated me this past week? While debating in Cali, neither Obama or Hillary was asked to address the collapses taking place around them of what it is they propose. Healthcare reform?

Now ^^^ that’s a crapshoot, and dems just gobble it up when Hillary and Obama put it in front of them. Yummy, eh?

Control is the norm in most of the world’s health care. Competition is the insurgent model. It’s getting a test in the Medicare prescription drug program, which actually has cost less than expected. Democrats still recoil at it, but Republicans are coming to understand and embrace it.

Congress created the current regulatory regime and could get rid of it (there’s no constitutional barrier here), but the political climate would have to change first. Democrats will have to stop scoring cheap points by demonizing the insurance business. They’ll have to recognize that insurers are part of the solution, not the problem, and that profit in health care is not a dirty word.

By OneForTheRoad

February 2, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

I don’t like to generalize especially since I know all too well of the existence of the exceptions. I will however resort to such extremes in order to get a point across as succinctly as possible — especially on a blog. That said, Luckoduh, I usually scroll right past you but today I think you are right on with the government workers. What good fiscal conservative wouldn’t look at some of these jobs and ask “What the Hell[o] were we thinkin’?” Now, to be less than succinct, I rightfully exclude most military and teachers and select others in this case because they obviously are not the “dead weight”, “valueless”, government workers that I’m referring to. Beyond that, these government workers in many case should be told as they are handed their pink slips “I’m doing this for your own good”. I liken many government jobs as being nothing more than welfare away from home. It does little more than allow for one’s continued existence while draining resources that are better spent on creating better private sector jobs.

Anyway that’s what I always say.

By Glenn

February 2, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

  • Day 2: No Child Left Unsold

Jim,

Whole messa McCain stuff in a dozen column inches there, Mr. Green Eyeshade. Interesting that you should raise the judiciary as the second agenda item. It’d be good, I think, for conservatives to remember McCain as lynchpin of Schumer’s Gang of Fourteen that arrogated the role of hostage negotiation when the Democratic minority abused the filibuster in an unprecedented move (Fortas being the brief exception that proved the rule) to block the President’s judicial nominees.

It was quintessential McCain when he prided himself on having “freed” three who (with their families) had been held hostage for more than a year, as though conservatives would fail to note with disgust that he’d sold out the remaining two, equally qualified, judges. It tells you exactly how McCain thinks: “Three for two: that’s a good deal!”

That particular John is always happiest when he pays other people’s treasure to enjoy the company of Democrats. He reminds me of a man in denial of his own homosexuality, only in McCain’s case it’s liberalism and a lust for adulation that he’s denying.

At least with Paul and Huckabee there’s no question but that the one’s a Libertarian and the other a Democrat.

[Petraeus ‘12]

P.S. Dusty, it’s not exactly accurate to say that free speech is “even” for idiots, so much as that it’s especially for idiots. They’re our miner’s canaries as we carve our “tunnel of hope” through our “mountain of despair.”

By Luckoduh

February 2, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Disgusted February 2, 2008 10:57 AM Those 18,000 government workers weren’t fired, moron. They retired and were not replaced.}}}}

Polly: So why is it that the Urinal is on a crying jag about these jobs being “lost?”

Shouldn’t “retirees” not be classified as “laid off?”

{{{{Ominous signs heighten gloom: Tougher job market: The U.S. economy lost 17,000 jobs in January, the first monthly loss since 2003, and wage growth was slow. Whether the economy is in a recession is increasingly becoming an academic argument. For a lot of people in metro Atlanta and around the country, it sure feels like one.-Urinal}}}}

You calling the AJC liars?

{{{{These contract employees don’t count against the federal employment numbers. That’s why an organization like CDC has a little over 9,000 civil service workers and 7,000 contractors.}}}}

Sorry is sorry anyway you look at it.

Were there not contractors involved in the Walter Reed VA soldier abuse scandal?

Is the CDC not the same organization that went wailing into the night about “bird flu?”

And the flu vaccine shortages?

Both episodes costing the taxpayer billions in government knee jerk overreaction?

{{{{By Abomi Nation February 2, 2008 10:59 AM What about you Luckoduh? Whats your worth to society? For over 3 years now you have spent 7 days a week on the ajc blogs posting mostly nonsense. These blogs are your life. It seems to me that the laziest government employee still offers a hell of a lot more than you.}}}}

Since the time I arose at 5:00 this morning, I have started rescreening and painting the porch, repaired a damaged section of my beautiful lattice work fence, blew the remnants of the fall leaves from the yard and have dogged out a bunch of pinko liberals on a blog.

I conduct my business in much the same way.

How about you, Polly, how much does the Urinal pay you to watch over their blog all day long, posting thousands upon thousands of nonsense comments to kill the time?

Total time invested in this reply: 11 minutes.

I’m good, ain’t I?

By Abomi Nation

February 2, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

Luckoduh, you are a phony and most everyone on this blog knows it. Surely you are not in denial.

If a government employee were only to dot one i, or cross one t, they would be more productive than you.

Actually I could care less that you make your life this blog, but when you put down others for being non productive it seems kind of silly.

By ray

February 2, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

mccain?

bush outfox mccain in 2000

bin laden outfox bush 2001-2008

bad time to dig deeper into the pot of failure

By getalife

February 2, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Not to worry Jim,

If the Dems run Obama, McInsane will win and nothing will change.

The economy will continue to crash like the depression, bankrupting our country with more wars and lies.

The destruction of our country will continue but you and your ilk will be happy and cheer it on like you do now.

By Glenn

February 2, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

@@,

In spite of—-or perhaps because of—-your clever wordplay, looks to me like you’re sticking it to McCain but good. That’s the bug in question, all right, hoist upon your T-pin.

I get a bit prickly myself when you point out the stone cold fact that the man tends to underestimate Da Peeps. And @@, that’s one helluva thing to say about an American politician. But you’re right: he’s too often an upper case “D” instead of a lower case one. And that, by the way, is a perfectly functioning definition of Populism.

Look, we all agree that us natives is restless. Drumbeats to the Left, drumbeats to the Right, etc. Da Peeps is just downright pi$$ed. Each of the candidates (esp. Ron Paul) thinks she knows what we’s pi$$ed about, but none of them really seems to get it right, though (a) Obama comes closest and (b) merely propitiating an angry electorate does not a sound candidacy make.

This is how tone deaf McC is when it comes to understanding the ways in which a broad spectrum of Yanks is deeply ticked off. A veritable tuttifrutti of Americans were screaming at him not to take a step on Immigration again until he’d repaired the damage to the “fence” done the last time he and his cohorts screwed up. He didn’t listen, of course. And now, on Immigration he’s 0-2.

Great stats to present to an electorate angrier than ever, and in no small part because of his—-John McCain’s—-obliviousness.

[Petraeus ‘12]

By deegee

February 2, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

My curiosity was piqued this morning when I saw a headline referring to Romney’s sons and their work in their dad’s campaign. I found a “Five Brothers Blog” and learned that Mitt does indeed have 5 grown sons. None of Mitt’s 5 grown sons have any interest in serving in the military. In fact, Mitt states unapologetically that their campaign work is national service. The reasoning being, their dad would make a good president so they are serving their country by campaigning for dad. Mitt avoided VietNam by doing Mormon missionary work.

I pass no judgment on conscientious objectors, or anyone else that prefers not to enlist in the military. But if you are serious about being the commander in chief of a warrior nation like the USA, couldn’t you come up with a better excuse for why none of your able bodied sons serve in the military?

http://www.nysun.com/article/60136

By @@

February 2, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

I’ve just gotta ask this question. Am I the only observer who sees a similarity between Huckabee and Obama.

When Huckabee’s asked a question and has to answer spontaneously, he goes on….and on….an on to get to a point, but at least his mosey down the trail brings us back to the barn.

Obama’s loooooonnnnng trailrides have no destination and leave me lost in the wilderness. His speeches (written by a professional I assume) are inspiring—but is it his inspiring message or his professional speechwriters’?

I think they both like to hear themselves talk. Kind of like children who want to hold our attention.

“Little Mikey” Huckabee makes his a colorful adventure, and Obama is the kid that does it with “and ums”, “uh uh uhs.”

I find both exasperating.

By @@

February 2, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

O.K. Glenn, sticking with the bovine, I have to say that politics has always made me feel like the tender milk-fed calf who’s forced to “stand” in a tight pen for the politician’s zeal to slaughter the veal.

(Petraeus/Honore ‘12)

O-:MG ^^^ I love it!

I loved the way Honore handled the press during Katrina.

By Carl

February 2, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

Romney? I don’t see how we could possibly trust the judgment of someone who proudly runs as a Moron. We’ve had a Moron for eight years now, albeit this one only has one wife, and the results have been dreadful.

By MissionImp

February 2, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Jim, your mission today, should you choose to accept it, is to find the answer to the following problem — a problem plaguing those wanting to be smarter than a fifth grader.

How many correct answers are there to the following problem:

Which of the following numbers is different from the other two and how does it differ?

01 - 256 - 27

As usual, these numbers will be evenly summed when joined and a whole average is impossible.

Good Luck.

By @@

February 2, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Made me want to revisit General Honore’s “no nonsense” approach:

General Honore to reporter, “You are stuck on stupid!”

Amen!

CNN: press conference on Hurricane Rita. New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin & Gen. Russel Honore.

Honore: And Mr. Mayor, let’s go back, because I can see right now, we’re setting this up as he said, he said, we said. All right? We are not going to go, by order of the mayor and the governor, and open the convention center for people to come in. There are buses there. Is that clear to you? Buses parked. There are 4,000 troops there. People come, they get on a bus, they get on a truck, they move on. Is that clear? Is that clear to the public?

Female reporter: Where do they move on…

*Honore: That’s not your business.

Male reporter: But General, that didn’t work the first time…

Honore: Wait a minute. It didn’t work the first time. This ain’t the first time. Okay? If…we don’t control Rita, you understand? So there are a lot of pieces of it that’s going to be worked out. You got good public servants working through it. Let’s get a little trust here, because you’re starting to act like this is your problem. You are carrying the message, okay? What we’re going to do is have the buses staged.

Male reporter: General, a little bit more about why that’s happening this time, though, and did not have that last time…

Honore: You are stuck on stupid. I’m not going to answer that question. We are going to deal with Rita. This is public information that people are depending on the government to put out. This is the way we’ve got to do it. So please. I apologize to you, but let’s talk about the future. Rita is happening. And right now, we need to get good, clean information out to the people that they can use. And we can have a conversation on the side about the past, in a couple of months.

I’m in love.

By jbmlaw

February 2, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Good afternoon all. Thanks Luckoduh for the detail on the “job loss” and your analysis is spot-on. I have already reconciled myself to the McCain candidacy - it will not be the end of the world, and we could do worse. I like Glenn’s and @@’s proposals for ‘12. Seems like Dusty had a meritorious proposal there too, cannot remember - my 20 second attention span kicks in.

Dear MI @ 12:21, I see two answers. 27 has no whole square root. 256 has no whole cube root.

By jbmlaw

February 2, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Dear MI @ 12:21, also 27 does not have an “o” in the English language spelling of the number. So I suppose the answer is “an infinite number of differences.”

By Susan

February 2, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

McCain is NOT going to unify the Republican Party. he is a liar! He has gone on national tv and lied. He has been quoted in the papers and lied. He can not be trusted.

My contacts in the international community think this is hillarious! Here is McCain, a liar, an outspoken liar, being supported by the media, the liberals of his party, and some dems.

Our country has a difficult time in the views of the world, and now, McCain is seeking the Presidency!! What a joke! A liar being supported in the USA!

Don’t blame those of us in the Rep. Party for moving over to the Dem side to vote. We want a conservative, moralistic President! When is the RNC going to get it!! We will NOT support McCain. I am voting Romney!

By jbmlaw

February 2, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

Dear MI @ 12:21, 01 is the only number that reads the same in binary as in base 10. Also 01 is the only one of these numbers with an even fifth root. I don’t remember trig - it was just discovered when I was in school - but perhaps 01’s natural logarithm is the same as the number?

By jbmlaw

February 2, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

Dear MI @ 12:21, other unique and odd properties of “01”: 0 to the zero power = 1 to the zero power 01 to the zero power = 01 to the first power

By jbmlaw

February 2, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Dear MI @ 12:21, also 01 is only one of the three that is a prime number.

By Chris

February 2, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

McCain the Manchurian Candidate in my opinion. While I admire his service in the US Navy during the Vietnam War, his time as a POW caused him to break. He may be pro military on some views, but he opposed Bush 43 tax cuts, leader of the “Gang of 14” which kept filibusters on judiical nominations, leader of McCain-Feingold, which could be a prelude to the “Fairness Doctrine” (which is nothing more than censorship, IMO), and global warming, even though the earth’s temparture, like life, has its ups and downs.

McCain’s election would signal more taxes, the censorship of talk radio and the Internet (including this blog and Wikipedia, for which I am an editor, ranked #623 as of January 22, 2008), the loss of sovereignty with LOST and Kyoto, the criminalization of Christianity, and the end of our country as we know it.

By @@

February 2, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

GREAT! math ain’t my thang and jbmlaw has got my head spinning.

I want you to count on my fingers MI…

Starting from thumb or pinkie, count inward to three. What “digit” do you get?

By Redneck Convert

February 2, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Well, I see Sister Dusty don’t like anything I wrote this a.m. I would be suprized if she did. She’s always throwing off on me, saying I live in a country club and am a librul and such.

I see these two cops had a shootout up in Sugar Hill. It just goes to show, make a good redneck a cop and give him a gun and he’ll be making the news about every week just blasting away and beating people up. You will find that kind of thing to be proud about only in GA.

By MissionImp

February 2, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

Sorry. Could not respond earlier since we were away enjoying the weather for a while. Anyway, your early answer about infinite number of answers is in the right direction. It’s one of those types of questions that supposedly helps determine how your brain is “wired” - You know, Einsteins, literals, figuratives, etc. It’s a perception thing. For example, 01 is prime, 01 is single digit, 01 is divisible by 1 but so is 256 and 27, 256 is divisible by 2, 256 is 2^8, 27 is divisible by 3, 27 is 3^3, 256 is even, 256 is a 3-digit number,if you spell out all three numbers and compare them you can come up with “tons” of differences.

At this point, you may be saying so what? That’s OK. @@ got hung up apparently sucking on the third digit — short attention span? One very subtle point was in response to Jim’s reference to all the primary results — I say so what also because I don’t vote based on such numbers.

By Luckoduh

February 2, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

{{{{Republican presidential candidate Mike Hickabee accepted tens of thousands of dollars in suits and clothes as well as dozens of airplane trips, sporting tickets, country club memberships, fishing rods and jewelry for his wife during his years as Arkansas governor.}}}}

{{{{Mr. Hickabee was never found to have violated any ethics laws and his predecessors, including former President Bill KKKlinton, took dozens of similar donations, reports show. State ethics laws in Arkansas don’t prohibit such gift-giving.}}}}

Huh, Jack Abramoff should have set up shop in ArKKKansas instead of D.C.

Or should have been a pinko.

By Luckoduh

February 2, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

The signs of change are unmistakable. Over the last year, the Kossacks themselves seemed to be waning — the number of monthly page views on the site is down dramatically.

Moreover, in the last few weeks they and their avatars have been flocking to the great reconciler. First Ned Lamont endorsed Mr. Obama, a mentee of Mr. Lieberman in the Senate. Then on Wednesday, in the first Daily Kos straw poll after Mr. Edwards left the race, Mr. Obama beat Mrs. KKKlinton by 76%-11% (a result inflated by the Netroots’ unbreakable contempt for Ku Klux Rodham). Just yesterday, MoveOn.org gave its formal blessing to the “post-partisan” candidate.

The best evidence that Kos-ism is about kaput, though, comes from Kos’s mouth himself. Yes, the most delicious irony of this campaign is that the supposed hatemonger is supporting the hopemonger.

Seeing the writing on the wall, as well as on his own blog, Markos Moulitsas — Kos himself — rejected the candidacy he himself helped spawn and announced (albeit grudgingly) on Dec. 12 that he would be voting for Mr. Obama via “a process of elimination.”

Not exactly the most graceful concession, but the import is undeniable: Hope trumped Kos for Democrats.

Bwa.

By Scott

February 2, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

There are 4 candidates left, and only one will ensure that the Democrats don’t run both the Congress and the White House. John McCain polls ahead or at worst even with both Democrats, while Romney polls woefully behind in EVERY poll, even Rasmussen. Can you imagine Romney debating health care with Mrs Clinton when every expert points out that HILARYCARE is based largely on Romney’s model in Massachusetts!? I suppose if you have a burning desire to see Slick Willy padding around the oval office in his bathrobe, a frech cigar in his mouth, a vote for Romney is the best way to get’er done.

By Scott

February 2, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

There are four candidates left, and only one of them can ensure that the Democrats will not run both Congress and the White House. John McCain polls ahead or ar worst even with both Democrats, while Romney polls woefully behind in EVERY poll, even Rasmussen. Can you imagine Romney debating Mrs Clinton on health care, when all experts point out that HILARYCARE is based largely on Romney’s model in Massachusetts!? So, if you have a burning desire to see Slick Willy padding around the Oval Office in his bath robe, a fresh cigar in his mouth, go ahead and vote for Romney and get ‘er done.

By @@

February 2, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

MI:

At this point, you may be saying so what? That’s OK. @@ got hung up apparently sucking on the third digit — short attention span?

What you lack in humor you make up for in math whizdom.

Feel better now?

By Tireseus

February 2, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming) is to Climatology as Astrology is to Astronomy. With Gore as its High Climatologer.

By Dan

February 2, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

Let us look at McCain’s conservative credentials: -IMMIGRATION: he wrote the bill granting amnesty to illegal immigrants (co-sponsored by Ted Kennedy) -SOCIAL SECURITY: he voted to give your social security money to illegal immigrants -TAXES: he voted against the Bush tax cuts multiple times (he has since flip-flopped and has campaigned as a lifelong tax-cutter) -RHETORIC: he routinely engages in Democratic class warfare against big companies in America, particularly the “evil” drug companies who research cures to debilitating diseases for a profit -ECONOMY: as recently as December 2007 he admitted “he does not know the economy very well” and needed to get better at it -1ST AMENDMENT: he wrote the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill that was declared to be an unconstitutional infringement of the 1st Amendment (co-sponsored by ultra-liberal Democrat Russ Feingold) -2ND AMENDMENT: he was called the “worst 2nd amendment candidate” by the president of the NRA -ENERGY TAX: wrote a bill (co-sponsored by his buddy Lieberman) imposing a massive tax on energy which, according to the Department of Energy, would drastically raise the price of gasoline and put 300,000 Americans out of work -GLOBAL WARMING: supports radical global warming legislation which involved him voting with every Democrat; think only America is responsible to take action, not other superpowers -JUDGES: he joined forces with Democrats (Gang of 14) to block the Senate Republican’s attempt to confirm conservative, strict constructionist judges; also said Alito was too conservative for his liking -WAR ON TERROR: fought with Hillary Clinton to demand that terrorists be given a full American trial -GAY MARRIAGE: he joined liberals to fight against a federal marriage amendment supporting the institution of traditional marriage -CHRISTIANS: campaigning in 2000, he famously described Christian leaders as “agents of intolerance” -PRO-LIFE: he filed an amicus brief against pro-life advocates in Wisconsin -BI-PARTISANSHIP: he met with leading Democrats in 2004 to discuss the possibility of being John Kerry’s Vice-President; publicly considered leaving the Republican Party in 2001 after he lost the primary -PROFESSIONAL ETHICS: ringleader of the infamous Keating 5 ethical scandal which cost US tax payers $160 billion (Google it) -PERSONAL ETHICS: McCain cheated on his first wife after she had a severe accident that left her partially disabled. He then divorced her and married his multi-millionaire mistress, whose daddy bought McCain a spot in the Congress

By Dan

February 2, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

Let us look at McCain’s conservative credentials: -IMMIGRATION: he wrote the bill granting amnesty to illegal immigrants (co-sponsored by Ted Kennedy) -SOCIAL SECURITY: he voted to give your social security money to illegal immigrants -TAXES: he voted against the Bush tax cuts multiple times (he has since flip-flopped and has campaigned as a lifelong tax-cutter) -RHETORIC: he routinely engages in Democratic class warfare against big companies in America, particularly the “evil” drug companies who research cures to debilitating diseases for a profit -ECONOMY: as recently as December 2007 he admitted “he does not know the economy very well” and needed to get better at it -1ST AMENDMENT: he wrote the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill that was declared to be an unconstitutional infringement of the 1st Amendment (co-sponsored by ultra-liberal Democrat Russ Feingold) -2ND AMENDMENT: he was called the “worst 2nd amendment candidate” by the president of the NRA -ENERGY TAX: wrote a bill (co-sponsored by his buddy Lieberman) imposing a massive tax on energy which, according to the Department of Energy, would drastically raise the price of gasoline and put 300,000 Americans out of work -GLOBAL WARMING: supports radical global warming legislation which involved him voting with every Democrat; think only America is responsible to take action, not other superpowers -JUDGES: he joined forces with Democrats (Gang of 14) to block the Senate Republican’s attempt to confirm conservative, strict constructionist judges; also said Alito was too conservative for his liking -WAR ON TERROR: fought with Hillary Clinton to demand that terrorists be given a full American trial -GAY MARRIAGE: he joined liberals to fight against a federal marriage amendment supporting the institution of traditional marriage -CHRISTIANS: campaigning in 2000, he famously described Christian leaders as “agents of intolerance” -PRO-LIFE: he filed an amicus brief against pro-life advocates in Wisconsin -BI-PARTISANSHIP: he met with leading Democrats in 2004 to discuss the possibility of being John Kerry’s Vice-President; publicly considered leaving the Republican Party in 2001 after he lost the primary -PROFESSIONAL ETHICS: ringleader of the infamous Keating 5 ethical scandal which cost US tax payers $160 billion (Google it) -PERSONAL ETHICS: McCain cheated on his first wife after she had a severe accident that left her partially disabled. He then divorced her and married his multi-millionaire mistress, whose daddy bought McCain a spot in the Congress

By Dan

February 2, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

Let us look at McCain’s conservative credentials: -IMMIGRATION: he wrote the bill granting amnesty to illegal immigrants (co-sponsored by Ted Kennedy) -SOCIAL SECURITY: he voted to give your social security money to illegal immigrants -TAXES: he voted against the Bush tax cuts multiple times (he has since flip-flopped and has campaigned as a lifelong tax-cutter) -RHETORIC: he routinely engages in Democratic class warfare against big companies in America, particularly the “evil” drug companies who research cures to debilitating diseases for a profit -ECONOMY: as recently as December 2007 he admitted “he does not know the economy very well” and needed to get better at it -1ST AMENDMENT: he wrote the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill that was declared to be an unconstitutional infringement of the 1st Amendment (co-sponsored by ultra-liberal Democrat Russ Feingold) -2ND AMENDMENT: he was called the “worst 2nd amendment candidate” by the president of the NRA -ENERGY TAX: wrote a bill (co-sponsored by his buddy Lieberman) imposing a massive tax on energy which, according to the Department of Energy, would drastically raise the price of gasoline and put 300,000 Americans out of work -WAR ON TERROR: fought with Hillary Clinton to demand that terrorists be given a full American trial -GAY MARRIAGE: he joined liberals to fight against a federal marriage amendment supporting the institution of traditional marriage -CHRISTIANS: campaigning in 2000, he famously described Christian leaders as “agents of intolerance” -PRO-LIFE: he filed an amicus brief against pro-life advocates in Wisconsin -BI-PARTISANSHIP: he met with leading Democrats in 2004 to discuss the possibility of being John Kerry’s Vice-President; publicly considered leaving the Republican Party in 2001 after he lost the primary -PROFESSIONAL ETHICS: ringleader of the infamous Keating 5 ethical scandal which cost US tax payers $160 billion (Google it) -PERSONAL ETHICS: McCain cheated on his first wife after she had a severe accident that left her partially disabled. He then divorced her and married his multi-millionaire mistress, whose daddy bought McCain a spot in the Congress

By Luckoduh

February 2, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

{{{{On the Democratic side, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois also received some endorsement momentum on Friday with the support of MoveOn.org, a liberal organization with three million members.}}}}

Heh, looks like the former KKKlinton fanatics want to MoveOn from the….KKKlintons.

Bwa.

By Glenn

February 2, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

@@

Are you sitting down? Russ Honore just retired, and has more time on his hands as a result.

My thinking is that he’s the only one who could prise you away from your damnably fine husband and then, when the rakish General administers a good jilting after having his way with you, someone might catch you on the rebound (provided someone moves at the right time to get the General to arrange a little involuntary servitude for your spouse in, say, Guam, or American Samoa.)

Scott,

I guess I’ll have to hold my nose on McCain, but I won’t support him. Am going over to the House that Dwight Built tonight to hear McC and his local shotgun brides from the GOP, but it’s just to check him out at close range and pay my respects to some old buddies from Vets Affairs days. The Legion and VFW are both four-square for the Rubber Band Man from Arizona, though neither organization will break its chartered requirement to avoid partisanship and endorsements. The upshot of the vets’ support, then, is that it’s bipartisan. Even McCain’s state campaign chairs come from both parties.

Reminds me of the Little Napoleon who ran in 1864 as the candidate of All Things To All People.

[Petraeus/Honore ‘12]

By Jackie

February 2, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

John McCain has issues with the Keating 5. He has not absolved himself of the scandal of the 80’s and his association with the Bush family relating to this issue. It does make sense now to realize why McCain would allow himself and his family to be castigated by Bush/Karl Rove in the 2000 SC primary. In that campaign, someone in the Repub camp put out a letter accusing McCain of having an out-of-wedlock child with a black prostitute. He refused to push back on those lies and did not defend his family against those falsehoods. Does make one wonder why is so amenable to Bush policy.

By Luckoduh

February 2, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

Another Steyn masterpiece:

Another colleague of mine, Michael Ledeen, suggests that the rise of McCain through New Hampshire, South Carolina and Florida indicates that for many voters “the war” is still the issue, because, after all, what else has the senator got going for him? Surely, it’s not his global-warming hysteria or illegal-immigration amnesty or demonization of capitalism. It’s because he’s Mister Surge.

Well, maybe.

The senator is an eloquent defender of the U.S. armed forces. A President McCain will not permit a military defeat in Iraq. But it’s not clear to me he has much of a strategic vision for the ideological struggle, for the real long-term battlefield in the mosques and madrassahs of Pakistan and Indonesia and Western Europe. McCain’s lead is no evidence of popular commitment to “the long war,” and, absent any surprising developments, this will not be a war election.

The Clintons are nothing if not lucky, and Hillary must occasionally be enjoying a luxury-length cackle at the thought of being pitted against a 71-year-old “maverick” whose record seems designed to antagonize just enough of the base into staying home on Election Day. In the 2000 campaign season, running in a desultory fashion for the New York Senate seat, Rudy Giuliani waged a brief half-hearted campaign just long enough to leave the Republican Party with no one to run against Hillary except a candidate who wasn’t up to the job.

Has he managed to do the same this time round?

Not if we stop McBushie.

By SCOTT

February 2, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

There are four candidates left, and only one of them can ensure that the Democrats will not run both Congress and the White House. John McCain polls ahead or at worst even with both Democrats, while Romney polls woefully behind in EVERY poll, even Rasmussen. Can you imagine Romney debating Mrs Clinton on health care, when all experts point out that HILARYCARE is based largely on Romney’s model in Massachusetts!? So, if you have a burning desire to see Slick Willy padding around the Oval Office in his bath robe, a fresh cigar in his mouth, go ahead and vote for Romney and get ‘er done…or HOLD YOUR NOSE AND SAVE OUR COUNTRY FROM 8 MORE YEARS OF CLINTON.

By Dan

February 2, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

ROMNEY SUPPORTERS (please read)!!!!!!!!

We need to start exposing McCain’s 2 big personal scandals to tip the scales to Mitt. This guy will say and do anything to sabotage Romney and it’s about time he give him a bit of his own medicine.

We need to expose:

1) McCain cheating on his disabled wife with a mistress half his age, McCain divorcing his disabled wife then marrying his millionaire mistress, and then having her rich daddy buy his seat in Congress.

2) Keating 5 ethics scandal and how McCain was the only member of the rebuked 5 not to resign his seat in Congress.

Mitt has had too much class to bring this up, but we must! The American people, who know nothing about these scandals, are evidently under the delusion that McCain is a straight-talker and man of honor. We must spend today spreading the TRUTH of why he is not.

By @@

February 2, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

Glenn:

@@ Are you sitting down?

I am now, but only briefly.

It’s the attitude I love and…

my husband would never settle for a dead fish from Nancy Pelosi’s American samoa.

How dare you even think such a thing!

By ron

February 2, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

Mitt Romney believes in Joe Smith.As far as I am concerned,I can’t trust anyone that believes in Joe Smith.Enough is enough,already.

By Political Foreskin

February 2, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Wooten called McCain a lovable fuzzball. He made McCain sound like a tribble. McCain is not electable. His speech is too slow and wandering. He simply doesnt’ look or sound or act presidential. The country wants new and vibrant and young. McCain is too low-spoken, and slight. He has no chance.

The GOP has no horse in this race. The Liberals have two leading thoroughbreds and a possible dream team.

geronimo has a better chance of being elected than McCain or Romney.

By Kale

February 2, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Reasons NOT to vote for John McCain

By Political Foreskin

February 2, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

The main issue is not Iraq or the War on Terror. The great question before us now is “What kind of America will we leave our children?” We could trust the America we inherited from our partents. We could believe that the government had our back. Ask yourself if you’d turn your back on George Bush in a war. Hell no. He’d shoot you in the back if it suited some misperceived tactical advantage. There has occurred a serious disconnect between America and the government. We need a course correction and O’billary can make that change. (camera to pie being thrown at idiotic speechwriter who combined Obama and Hillary into one word, like brangelina, or TomKat)

By TW

February 2, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

Who knew McCain was going to be such a litmus test for racism? Very beneficial to the conservative voice. Before the restoration of credibilty there will have to be a cleansing of the party. What better group to start with than the bigots who are trying to paint McCain as a proponent of amnesty?

By Master Card

February 2, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

Gallon of gas $3.00

Gallon of milk $5.00

The Republican Party eating their own…….

Priceless.

For everything else, there’s Master Card.

By Political Foreskin

February 2, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

The country is ready for Camelot part duh, which will be O’billary. I think what we missed out on with JFK will finally be realized, at least that’s the hope and the vote.

Looking forward, I think we’ll see movement on the healthcare front and in education. We’re stuck in Iraq so dont expect any more than a photo-op withdrawal. Afghanistan will blow up in our face and whatever we take out of Iraq will go to Afhganistan. But it’s going to be cool to be young again. Fashions will go wild. Music will quantum leap and we may get a new beatles. except they’ll be islamic with names like vesto, mosqus, cali, and emi. In an exclusive Wooten interview, Vesto will say they were more popular than Ayottalah Kohmeini and they’ll have to apologize; “I wasn’t trying to compare ourselves with him as a person or a thing or whatever it is, but I said it and it was wrong, and now there’s all of this…”

By Luckoduh

February 3, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this

{{{{“My husband and I have to pay for health care out of pocket, and that is rough,” said Rosalyn Robinson, a 31-year-old mother of four from Columbus. “And the economy is real bad. People are having to pay for food, clothing and health care and losing their homes in the process.”-Urinal Front Page}}}}

People are having to pay for food, clothing and health care!!!

Why, the horror!

Alright, scenario A: Dimwit businessman Buford, who, let’s say, runs a small grocery store in Dimwitville, and picks up a copy of the Urinal litter box liner and sees all of the pinkos whining and shrieking about the “economy” being bad.

Now dimwit Buford has no idea that the Atlanta Journal Constitution is really the Demokrat National Kommittee Propaganda Korps and that they are on a mission to destroy the economy of the United States, regardless of the harm it causes, so that they can win an election. Keep in mind that the economy was in far worse shape under KKKlinton then it is now but the Urinal never said a peep about it, at least not until the day Bushie took office

So Buford, wracked with anxiety and looking to stop the “beast” before it gobbles him up too, 1) raises his food prices, 2) lays off dimwit Rosalyn the cashier.

So who is really causing the harm?

{{{{Lynda Alley, Duluth: She’s voting Republican this year, she says, because health care is broken and the Democrats can’t fix it.-Urinal}}}}

Who among us really believes that the government can “fix” health care, well, besides the really dim people?

You mean like they “fixed” traffic and our water supply?

The government “runs” the health care at the VA hospitals like Walter Reed, do you too want to be abandoned in some hospital hallway by some government flunky? Do you want to be operated on by some blooming idiot, like those in charge of Lake Lanier?

And do you really, truly believe that the pinkos at the Urinal will uncover abuse at your local hospital like they did at the VA? Oh please, they want a socialist health care system, there could be corpses piled up in the emergency room, they wouldn’t say squat.

There would be no Republican for them to blame.

{{{{Ku Klux Rodham campaigned Saturday in California, the biggest prize among the states voting Super Tuesday. In a discussion with voters in a working-class neighborhood of Inglewood, Calif., she stressed pocketbook issues. “We need to freeze [mortgage] interest rates, or we are going to have more people at risk of losing their homes,” she said. “… What good would it be to have vacant homes in this neighborhood?”-Urinal}}}}

If this does happen, you can forget about anyone with less than perfect credit and employment ever owning a house again.

This stupid pandering bigot will single handedly close the mortgage market to the very people who need help the most.

No talk from the racist about living within your means, no talk about responsibility, only trash talk about the government coddling your sorry as-s.

KKKlinton is the uniter, there is no doubt about that, she has united all of America’s lazy as-s losers, the shiftless weaklings and uneducated, it’s freaking party time for the failures of the country.

And just guess who gets the bill for this madness.

~~~~~

Hahahahahaha, the libs let one slip:

{{{{ Zimbabwe reels from inflation -When thousands of business managers and store owners were arrested last year for failing to adhere to artificial government pricing, basic goods disappeared.-Urinal}}}}

Like I was saying.

~~~~~

The dimwit liberals wailing into the night about clean, safe reliable energy that has killed no while hundreds continue to die mining coal:

{{{{Beaumont-Hague, France —- Thousands of canisters of highly radioactive waste from the world’s most nuclear-energized nation lie, silent and deadly, beneath this jutting tip of Normandy. Above ground, cows graze and Atlantic waves crash into heather-covered hills.-Urinal}}}}

Do the pinkos want the sky filled with smog? Do they get excited seeing coal miners killed? Is it a joyous occasion that the poor get to compete with the utility companies over natural gas to heat their homes?

Are they sick in the head?

~~~~~

{{{{Vick’s dogs find home, hope- But even best of care can’t make scars fade.-Urinal}}}}

Three quarters of the page and 26 paragraphs for this ridiculous story.

What kind of moron do you think it takes to write a story about dogs that hope for the future and worry over their scars?

Dearest America: When, pray tell, do you think we will once again start being serious about ourselves? When will the feminine emotional wave cease carrying us hither and yon?

Have we lost all pride in ourselves?

Meanwhile, one puny little paragraph:

{{{{Bombers likely had Down syndrome - As the death toll rose to at least 99 in Friday’s suicide bombings at two pet markets in Baghdad, U.S. and Iraqi officials said pictures showed the bombers had Down syndrome and likely did not know they were being used in the attacks. Iraqi forces raided two villages north of the capital, killing seven suspected militants, and the U.S. military said its forces killed one suspected militant and detained 13 in raids across northern and central Iraq.-Urinal}}}}

Where is the outrage, Code Pinko, did you waste all of your worries over some stupid animal?

Gee, I wonder, instead of the Kampaign against America, which I’m sure al Qaeda delights in seeing every day, when are you libs going to start speaking out against the real evils of the world?

Sick.

By Political Foreskin

February 3, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this

Sunday Morning Quarterbacking: (that’s where I criticize what hasn’t happened yet in Der Uberbool)

this would be funnier if I had an umlaut key, trust me

Manning represents the greatest promise football has seen since Night Train Lane. He managed to emerge a star completely unscathed by drugs, dogfighting, or divorce. The Giants can win today because of him, but only if they have a plan B for the blitz, which oh by the way, is going to chase him like drug-crazed, recently-divorced dogs. It’s actually mathematically impossible for Manning to win this game, but I think he’ll do it. Manning is the finest young quarterback I’ve ever had the pleasure of worshipping from afar.

By WFC

February 3, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

I trust and respect JOHN MCCAIN. I would vote for him vs. Mrs. Clinton.

Mrs. Clinton is a “careerist” with no core beliefs. I won’t vote for her.

I would vote for Romney only if I were rich. I’m not, so I won’t.

Huckabee would have been a good president circa 1896. I can see him giving the “cross of gold” speech. It’s 2008, so I’ll pass on him.

Obama is the future of America so he’s the guy.

By MissionImp

February 3, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this

Good Morning Jim,

Your mission for this morning, should you choose to accept it, is to resolve a dilemma of your own making. Yes, your own making.

The problem, Jim, may stem from a lack of education and we need your help to find the truth. Only days ago you spoke of some government officials in Georgia and their inability to properly count. Additionally, you spoke of the “fact” that they were a product of the Georgia school system. The following day, you spoke of a group of 50 government officials in Georgia and their decision to support Mitt Romney. Later, Georgia’s two US senators come out in support of McCain. We seem to have some that can count and some that cannot, some that want Romney and some for McCain. Are all of these contradictions linked to Georgia educated members of the GOP? Can the apparent contradictions be readily explained through careful analysis of the data? The problems, Jim, are perplexing but not insurmountable for someone with your insight into the right way of life. Determine for us Jim, if you will, with the assistance of a database (a spreadsheet will suffice) listing all referenced government officials from Georgia along with party affiliation, states where educated and associated degrees (GPAs would also be helpful),and their indicated presidential candidate support.

As usual, Jim, we the people will disavow all knowledge of your support in trying to determine if “The Truth is out There” if you a) get caught, or b) actually find the truth.

Good Luck, Jim.

By Redneck Convert

February 3, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

Well, I sure wish Mike Luckovich would hang around on weekends so this Duh guy would have someplace else to go and post his books and let the rest of us post on the Wooten blog.

I see somebody has innerduced a bill that would allow people to bring their guns to church. Now there’s a great idea. Instead of jabbering about who is going to be the new preacher we could just have a shootout in the pews. People could just use their 2nd Amendment rights and settle things on the spot. And if the preacher says something librul the people could just blast away and get rid of him. You won’t find great ideas like this one in other states. I’m just glad I live in GA.

Well, I was disgusted last night when our two US senators indorsed this librul McCain. We need two new senators and we need to return to the ways of God and elect the Rev. Huckabee. With a preacher in the White House we wouldn’t be bothered by all this blather about seperating church and state. And you can bet abortion and welfare would be gone lickity-split. The state of the union speech would open with a prayer to Jesus and everybody would agree with the president and there wouldn’t be no Trader to connerdick the president after the speech.

Anyhow, it sure looks like the libruls done took back the Republican party. I don’t know why they won’t let us godly conservatives keep it. Just because a few million jobs have been shipped overseas and we have a recession coming and the war keeps going and Republicans and librul Democrats won’t speak to each other in Congress and we are a few trillion bucks in debt, they want to change everything and take control away from us.

I’m just disgusted and if I had my way we would have a bill to let people take their guns to the polls on Tuesday. Anybody that picked up a librul Democrat ballot would be hauled away in a hearse.

Have a good day everybody. I’m waiting for Joe Bill and Jim Earl to show up here at the trailer for the Super Bowl. The missus says they can come in even if Joe Bill still has his little stink problem. I got about ten cases of PBR off of the truck and I’ve laid in lots of fried pork skins and stuff.

By Luckoduh

February 3, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Well, well, it looks like I won’t have to burn my vote up on Obama this coming Tuesday:

{{{{REUTERSC-SPANZOGBY POLL: Obama slight lead in CA; tied NJ, MO; 20-point lead GA…}}}}

Bwa.

Uh, Cheney write in?

By Political Foreskin

February 3, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

Hey Phelps, you forgot to say that your comment will self destruct in five seconds…….zzzzz

By MissionImp

February 3, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

OK. Is there a Jimpersonator ou there? No one other than Jim should be reading that top secret stuff. If you keep doing that, I will Plame you and only you, PoFo.

By profit

February 3, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

McClown is not fine on national security: What Jim means is McClown will follow the money trail left by the Zionists, and support Israel with tens of billions of American tax dollars per year, and make enemies of the Arab and Muslim worlds, per the desires of the the pro Israel TRAITORS. McClown graduated 5th from last in his college class (the Air Farce Academy), was one of less than 1% of pilots who managed to get themselves shot dowd in Viet Nam, and is only a Senator due to his “fame” as a War Prisioner” - Note I said prisioner, not a war hero, which he was not. Also not the evil grinning Joe LieberSwine ever at McClown’s side - now imho there is a true TRAITOR to America and Democracy.

By Luckoduh

February 3, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

In front of her plane, Hillary apologized to her rival about Shaheen. Obama replied that he was concerned at the pattern of insinuations and attacks from her supporters and that a message needed to be sent from the top that sharp attacks were not, as Hillary had put it, “the fun part.” He brought up another recent example: the Clinton volunteer in Iowa who had been asked to leave after forwarding sleazy e-mail falsely claiming that Obama was a Muslim.

Then, according to witnesses from the Obama camp, Hillary got very agitated and was “flapping her arms.” All her simmering grievances spilled out during the 10-minute talk. She was still furious about David Geffen’s searing interview with me the previous February, charging that she and Bill lie with such ease “it’s troubling.” While Geffen’s fund-raiser for Obama spurred the column, Obama knew nothing about the interview until it appeared. Hillary was also angry that Obama had called her “disingenuous,” telling Newsweek that it was a contradiction for her to claim that her tenure as first lady gave her more experience but then refuse to release her first lady papers from Bill’s library, saying she had no control over them.

At some point, an Obama intimate recalled, he “gently put his hand on her arm to chill her out.” The tall senator often leans down to put a friendly hand on the shoulder of his fellow senators — male and female — on the Senate floor, and they seem charmed by the gesture.

Geez.

By SCOTT

February 3, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

There are four candidates left, and only one of them can ensure that the Democrats will not run both Congress and the White House. John McCain polls ahead or at worst even with both Democrats, while Romney polls woefully behind in EVERY poll, even Rasmussen. Can you imagine Romney debating Mrs Clinton on health care, when all experts point out that HILARYCARE is based largely on Romney’s model in Massachusetts!? So, if you have a burning desire to see Slick Willy padding around the Oval Office in his bath robe, a fresh cigar in his mouth, go ahead and vote for Romney and get ‘er done.

By Glenn

February 3, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

  • DAY 3: No Child Left Unsold

WJ Bryan had much greater integrity than Huckabee has, and was a grandiloquent orator whereas Huckabee is a small-town pulpit chestnut-roaster…Bryan was a true Populist and true Progressive, while McCain is the Populist now and Huckabee the Democrat (R-AK)…PoFo’s right: Manning is manning up as we speak…the only litmus test to be found in anyone’s disapproval of McCain’s perceived “amnesty” is TW’s lazybrained and racist one…PoFo knows far better than Manchester and Schlesinger did that Camelot was Shamelot; he’s just pretending, as JFK bobbysoxers are wont to do…Redneck’s got it wrong: the bill would require trigger locks on all guns brought to church (esp. for the Clinton/Obama wedding)…McCain is fine on national security…Luckoduh: I wish I could quit you…

[Petraeus/Honore 12]

By Political Foreskin

February 3, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

McCain thinks everybody should get a tax cut, but we have to curb federal spending.

Isn’t that like putting out bird feed and not wanting the squirrels to get any?

By OneForTheRoad

February 3, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

No PoFo. It’s like being redundant. It’s like letting the squirrel keep all the nuts that it gathered in the first place.

Alternatively, a taxing situation is to take the nuts from the little rodents right before the onset of winter and then eat the nuts after winter passes and gorge oneself on the nuts in plain sight of the now all-but-withered squirrel.

By Glenn

February 3, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Yeah, it is like your simile on the surface, but McCain tends to comprise subtleties of government betwixt opposable calipers. For example, we need to expand Vets Affairs; we need to eviscerate Vets affairs. [Both are true.] Or, we need to lock down the borders; we need a path to happiness for illegals. We need to cut federal spending; we need a tax cut. [Take a pound of flesh off the gov’t; then cut to the bone to stimulate the economy.]

I’d argue that each of these dialectical counterpositions brings us closer to the policy truth than most of the other candidates ever come.

McCain is weird little man but a wise one, if little else. In both honorable and dishonorable ways, he’s lived far too long and seen (and spent) far too much. He’s just barely smart enough and bold enough to risk being accused of self-contradiction for his peckerwood Thomism, which I think works OK.

By profit

February 3, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

Yo War Monger Dirt Ball: This is your doing, I hold you and your ilk responsible: May your rug rats pay for your crimes.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Every day, five U.S. soldiers try to kill themselves. Before the Iraq war began, that figure was less than one suicide attempt a day.

The dramatic increase is revealed in new U.S. Army figures, which show 2,100 soldiers tried to commit suicide in 2007.

“Suicide attempts are rising and have risen over the last five years,” said Col. Elspeth Cameron-Ritchie, an Army psychiatrist.

Concern over the rate of suicide attempts prompted Sen. Jim Webb, D-Virginia, to introduce legislation Thursday to improve the military’s suicide-prevention programs.

“Our troops and their families are under unprecedented levels of stress due to the pace and frequency of more than five years of deployments,” Webb said in a written statement. Watch CNN Senior Pentagon Correspondent Jamie McIntyre on the reasons for the increase in suicides »

Sen. Patty Murray, D-Washington, took to the Senate floor Thursday, urging more help for military members, especially for those returning from war.

“Our brave service members who face deployment after deployment without the rest, recovery and treatment they need are at the breaking point,” Murray said.

She said Congress has given “hundreds of millions of dollars” to the military to improve its ability to provide mental health treatment, but said it will take more than money to resolve the problem.

“It takes leadership and it takes a change in the culture of war,” she said. She said some soldiers had reported receiving nothing more than an 800 number to call for help.

“Many soldiers need a real person to talk to,” she said. “And they need psychiatrists and they need psychologists.”

According to Army statistics, the incidence of U.S. Army soldiers attempting suicide or inflicting injuries on themselves has skyrocketed in the nearly five years since the start of the Iraq

By Glenn

February 3, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

profit, some of us are doing something about that problem, in partnership with vets and with serving personnel who, I find, do not consider those who support the military’s efforts “war mongers” in any sense.

And who the hell are you to “hold” anyone “responsible”, other than your usual God of Judgment and Giver of Lightning in a funny hat?

By GaLiberal

February 3, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

Moron Jim says:He said at the time of the 2001 cuts that he opposed them because they benefited the wealthy. He and former U.S. Sen. Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island were the only two Republicans to oppose the $1.35 trillion in tax cuts.

He opposed further reductions offered by Bush in 2003 — and was joined in opposition by Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) and again by Chafee . “The tax cut is not appropriate until we find the cost of the war and the cost of reconstruction,” he said at the time.

Sounds like a well-reasoned cautious approach in complete contrast to the reckless and damaging Bush administration. But then “well-reasoned” and “cautious” are not in the Rethuglicon lexicon. Instead, Moron Jim and his ilk still want to elect a radical right theocrat to the presidency despite the record of the last eight years. Bush and his buddies only care about the ‘haves and the have mores.’ Screw the poor; it’s their fault. Hell with illegal immigrants; they don’t vote. White, male, Anglo-Saxon, Christians are all that matter. Oh, and they better be rich too.

But, please put Mitt the Twitt on the ballot. Pretty Please. It would be great to see him get buried and the Democrats be able to claim a mandate.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And Mitt the Twitt is living proof.

By TW

February 3, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

Glenn – very much appreciate your help with the Vets. Any perceived slight toward your efforts is the product of the White House having yanked the troops in front of criticism aimed at the commander in chief. These are the vicious circumstances in which we find ourselves when we bypass real accountability.

By Glenn

February 3, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

GaLiberal,

You’re right to see through McCain’s fitful “fiscal conservative” rhetoric. He’s used his ostentatious and longstanding opposition to earmarks as a conservative fiscal credential he otherwise spurns. He sounds the Right notes now, but later…who knows?

Don’t know where you get the idea that Romney is a “Right Wing theocrat”, though, unless you’re referring to his loose talk on biology curricula. It doesn’t behoove the Democratic Party that its members see in any leader of religious faith a theocrat in disguise. The closest this country ever came to a viable theocrat was Father Coughlin, in the 1930s. (Not counting the late Cardinal O’Connor, the “American Pope”, as that great man was only doing his job within ecclesiastical bounds.)

The Party has fallen victim to a repulsive and progressively self-destructive habit: projected its fear of the enemy onto Republicans.

By AmVet

February 3, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

Of course, McCain is a very mixed (up?) bag. A GOP maverick, and in many cases blissfully a RINO, yet he still invokes the sacred, though now totally irrelevant, name of Ronnie at every opportunity.

He’s not the greatest choice, but it has been absolutely delightful watching him roundly kick the arses of the assorted neo-con nutjobs running against him.

And watching the RW lunatic fringe and assorted creeps and jerks (think the delightful Ms. Coulter) practically choke on their vomit this year will be fetid icing on the cake…

By Del

February 3, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

While I’ve disagreed with McCain on some of his votes at least he has stood by his positions. I had considerable disagreement with Romney’s positions before he changed them.

By GaVoter

February 3, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

Ron Paul

I could have respected the Georgia 50 much more if they had endorsed a man of principle. Selecting someone based on their “electability” is a copout that runs counter to prior claims by some to avoid the pork, for example, on principle.

By Glenn

February 3, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

Right, Del,

McCain does stand steadfastly in resignation to the Democrats. Obstinacy is better than the discipline required to change one’s public positions, I’m sure you’d agree.

GaVoter,

Sure Dr. Paul’s principled. It’s just his principles that are screwed up. Not to mention his juvenile delinquent minions, whose idea of dirty tricks is straight out of Mad Magazine. Have you yet received their push-poll calls? Dr. Seussian.

By Glenn

February 3, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

TW, you’re right on the politics.

P.S. Apreciate, but can’t accept, your thanks, as I owe them a debt of honor.

By GaVoter

February 3, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Sorry Glenn,

No call from Paul — just McCain and Romney. I would just tell them both that I’ll vote for them but it’s a matter of a)principle and b)inability to gaze into the future. For, you see, if I could gaze into the future, I could do something as insignificant as determine which of the two, McCain or Romney, would be in the general election. Then, I could vote for the other one in the primary and truthfully tell each that I will vote for them. Of course, that does assume that I won’t change my mind before the general election.

By getalife

February 3, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

When the economy is the number one issue, voting for McInsane, who has no clue about the economy and when asked about it in the debate he spewed about Iraq and the surge, shows the intellect of the gop voters.

Lets face it, they voted for the worst President ever twice and want to further his policies to finish off our country.

It is the definition of insanity.

By profit

February 3, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Glenn, you have made your zionist beliefs quite clear, so nothing you say has any meaning or value to me. The Father of Lies is a Zionist, Right!

By Political Foreskin

February 3, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

Obillary: Obama said that he could glean Hillary’s voters if he was nominated, but he doesn’t think Hillary would glean his.

New apostate Ann Coulter has become a triple threat: talk show star, GOP defector, man.

By Glenn

February 3, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

get,

He doesn’t show the intellect of “the GOP voters”. Very few of them have supported him heretofore. He pulls from Democrats and Independents in formidable blocs.

“GOP voters”, as a cohort, know more about the economy than does McCain, who incidentally has some shrewd economists advising him closely. (GA-born-and-raised Phil Gramm of TX was with him in Cobb last night, for example.) And they know one helluvalot more than the (business-averse) Democrats do concerning entrepreneurship and capitalism.

By getalife

February 3, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

— Winston Churchill

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the gop voter.

— getalife

By Glenn

February 3, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

GaVoter,

I see. Well, some people would far rather vote for a candidate than have to think about one.

profit,

I got no idear why you would say that The Father of Lies, an alias for Satan, is a Zionist. The same sacred texts that tell us his name also tell us that he will come against Israel, and will be defeated by Zionism.

“Next year, in Jerusalem.”

Selah.

By GaVoter

February 3, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

Glenn,

I thought these were some interesting items about Ron Paul (from RonPaul2008.com):

In 1976, he was one of only four Republican congressmen to endorse Ronald Reagan for president. He has never voted to raise taxes. He has never voted for an unbalanced budget. He has never voted to raise congressional pay. He has never taken a government-paid junket. He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch. He voted against the Patriot Act. He voted against regulating the Internet. He voted against the Iraq war. He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program. He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Tell me, what do you like/dislike about him — not his nutty minions as they don’t make the man? Is he nutty; does he tell lies; does he flip-flop on issues; does he have a shady past; What is it? Let me guess. He’s not “electable”? What have we become.

By Glenn

February 3, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

“Democracy is the worst system of government devised by man, with the exception of all others.”

—-Churchill

Propose that your party change it’s name, get. Republicans once were part of the erstwhile “Democratic” values of the Democratic Party. Those values have been replaced.

I recommend “American Green Party”.

By Glenn

February 3, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

No GaVoter, I completely agree that his minions don’t make the man and that the hopelessness of his run is no reason to dislike the man.

I’ve said before (here, and to friends in his campaign) that I respect him a great deal, as the Libertarian he is, and that the only things I dislike about him are his blithe damage to the GOP, which he denies, and the fact that I think that he would get us all killed.

Other than that, a fine person. One with libertarian constitutional values reminiscent of one of Reagan’s several streaks.

By OneForTheRoad

February 3, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

That should be American Greenback Party, Glenn.

By GaVoter

February 3, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Glenn @ 2:19,

By “blithe damage to the GOP”, are you referring to Paul’s “Perot-like” ability to draw votes away from the likes of a McCain or Romney, either of whom so inadequately reflect a GOP philosophy. In fact, from your own statements, would you also agree that McCain is equally as damaging? Then, does that leave Romney as your great defender of the grand ole party? How well will he defend it? As well as he has as Governor? If yes, then shouldn’t he be more appropriately paired against Clinton or Obama in a democratic primary? Where have all the Republicans gone? In Georgia, many of them were pushed out of politics. You see, when the Republican party became the “electable” party, some of these Democrats wised up rather quickly and changed their lapel pins (it’s cheaper than wearing it on your sleeve). Shrewd, these fellows — real survivors to the end. Surely, one does have to wonder though, “What’s in a name?”

By Luckoduh

February 3, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife February 3, 2008 1:48 PM The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. — Winston Churchill. The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the gop voter. — getalife}}}}

al-Gitmo: You may want to look this one up but I don’t think Churchill cut and run from the Nazis like you would have.

You should try sizing up some Neville Chamberlin quotes to use for any further plagiarisms.

Geez.

By getalife

February 3, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

RW,

Nice hit piece on McInsane and the Clintons but is unproven drivel. A rove attack if you will.

All Clinton has to do is ask the nut job about economics.

Most Americans know the Clinton’s economy was good for prosperity. It is a proven fact not a rove smear.

I do agree that being tortured has effected his mental stability but the folks that vote for him are anything but stable.

By TW

February 3, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

How about -

Americans Against Ignorantly Screwing Ourselves

By RW-(the original)

February 3, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Considering that we’ve come to know what an opportunistic, back stabbing liar McCain is I wouldn’t be surprised if the story was true. However I believe it would backfire on anybody that tried to use it.

By getalife

February 3, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

duh,

My quote hit home huh duh?

It is okay, folks on the left are fighting back on w stealing our freedoms they fought and died for, not surrendering to a government that can’t be truted like you and your ilk.

When it comes to our freedoms, the right have cut and run and allowed obl to win and change our country.

Cowards, pure and simple.

By OneForTheRoad

February 3, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

For tis much better to be stupidly screwed than ignorantly so.

Anyway, that’s what I always say.

By Luckoduh

February 3, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife February 3, 2008 3:03 PM duh, My quote hit home huh duh? When it comes to our freedoms, the right have cut and run and allowed obl to win and change our country.}}}}

al-Gitmo: You are so correct, Sir, where could I have possibly gone astray?

FDR would have never lost focus on OBL, why, you demokrats have always been such staunch defenders of national security, I too saw that movie with all of those Nazi bombers flying around Pearl Harbor on that terrible Day of Infa… uh, say, hold up one minute.

….

….

….

….

FDR attacked the wrong country!!

War for oil!!

FDR lied, little Nazi schoolchildren died!!

By profit

February 3, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

Glenn, I have had several opportunities to go to Jerusalem, I have refused them all - it is an Evil place. The Father of Lies controls the american media, look at who ownes the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal… etc. Americans do not hear the truth, only the propaganda of Israel and the Zionists. I do not like being robbed, and that is what the Zionist lobby has been doing to me and all Amerians for the last 50 odd years, behind closed doors in WashingAss.

By getalife

February 3, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

Please duh, you are embarrassing yourself comparing today to WWII.

There is no American sacrifice except our troops over and over and over again until they break and commit suicide.

By Glenn

February 3, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

GaVoter,

I can’t quite discern your loaded, rhetorical questions from the other ones. But regarding Dr. Paul, I’d simply remind you of the way in which third-party candidates, and other Things That Wouldn’t Leave (a very ungentlemanly trait, BTW, and hence Bill Clinton’s penchant for it), have illicitly decided our elections for us several times in recent memory. Once they’ve made their points, they then have no business playing the role of spoiler. Right now Huckabee is a purpose-built spoiler; after Wednesday, Paul will be.

That’s news to me about the GA GOP and Dem conservatives here, and I’m sorry to hear it. I’m a Radical Republican myself, and my kind hasn’t ever been welcome in these parts. Still, just as I construe my religion as the Call To Lose, so might I just as well regard my politics. Lonely and Sisyphean, but there you have it.

So, as you might imagine, I’m on the brink of joining Peggy and the others: it looks like we will have to go down to get up. My good Texan President, like his father, picked the wrong time to indulge his moderate instincts. Ironically, now nobody sees him as a moderate; he’s an omnipurpose polar lightning rod.

TW,

That might make the GOP The Republican Party: 147 Years of Americans Screwing Americans. Not bad. But for TR, Ike and Reagan, that could work.

You may, however, wish to consider an amendment to your proposed name change: The American Green Party: Before Truth, Barren Screwing!”

ALL: Any smack you hear on McCain is (a) likely true; (b) probably dug up by GOP Rt., esp. 4 yrs. ago; and (c) currently on loan to both the Romney campaign and to Mssrs. Mulholland & Company, The Devil’s Workshop, Hillary for President.

With the deep personal exhaustion resulting from the still unaccustomed round-the-clock deadlines, the New Media and their Old Caboose simply have’t the time or sharpness required to separate all the lies from all the truth.

A very expensively and extensively planned SNAFU. No matter who wins this season, the Press loses. And thus the People also.

By Luckoduh

February 3, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife February 3, 2008 3:29 PM Please duh, you are embarrassing yourself comparing today to WWII. There is no American sacrifice except our troops over and over and over again until they break and commit suicide.}}}}

al-Gitmo: The Nazis couldn’t invade the quaint Island paradise of Great Britain, what pray tell would make you think they could have overtaken the United States, a country teeming with armed rednecks?

So let’s review, FDR lost 240,000 men laying waste to Greater Europe while Bushie has lost 4000 in his quest to plant America up al Qaeda and Iran’s as-s.

Are you saying we haven’t lost enough soldiers?

By Political Foreskin

February 3, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

I told you wipemysnatch was a hack.

By @@

February 3, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

I’ll add this after reading RW’s link—I read it about a week ago but decided not to post it.

Earley tells Accuracy in Media that while the timing of the release of the book could have been better, coming during a time of frenetic presidential campaign activity, the information deserves more attention than it is getting. He says the three major broadcasting networks, as well as the New York Times and the Washington Post, have shown no interest in treating the information in the book as a major news story. He says he is also disappointed that conservative talk radio has failed to cover the book.

Unfortunately, Tretyakov is concluding his interviews about the book on Wednesday, January 30, and will be going into hiding, fearing retaliation from the Russian government.

The book, however, speaks for itself. And the allegations about Strobe Talbott could prove damaging to the Clinton machine and the Democratic Party in general.

A close personal friend of Bill and Hillary Clinton, Talbott is described in the book as having been “a special unofficial contact” of the Russian intelligence agency, the SVR, when he was Deputy Secretary of State in the Clinton Administration. Talbott had been in charge of Russian affairs.

This looks bad…..really BAD!

Good luck if you’ve got a bet riding on the game. I’m off to a SuperBowl Party.

By GaVoter

February 3, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

Well Glenn,

Sometimes rhetorical questions are better left unanswered, don’t you agree.

Now, as for this lack of knowledge of the GA-DEM-GOP party, why our old governor would be the most noteworthy, wouldn’t he?

By the way, the last I checked, Ron Paul was running on the plain old Republican ticket — not Libertarian, not Green, no, not even Radical Republican. So, who’s to say that McCain or even Romney is not the true “spoiler” of the GOP, eh?

Most intriguing though is this concept of a “radical republican right wing”. With so many political “parties” within these 50 states, how does one even find the time, much less the space, for yet another party?

By Glenn

February 3, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

GaVoter, your fatuity regarding a GOP splinter is unwarranted. We’re not going anywhere; we’re just much more committed to rigorous, top-to-bottom restructuring than is the GOP mainstream. We’ve always been here, since 1867 anyway. We’re just unpopular, inside the Party and outside it.

The Peeps more than ever demand a candidate who is exactly what he says he is—-like Hillary! Remember what Buckley said was the “truest thing Bill Clinton ever said”: *”I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.”

Ron Paul is as free a citizen as you and I, and may call himself whatever he wants. And wherever do you suppose I’d get the idea that he’s a Libertarian, as well as a libertarian? Could it be, from his resume?

Like Abe sed, calling a tail a leg don’t make it a leg. And as best I can tell, not one candidate left standing is what she says she is. That’s all.

Dem nativ sho’ iz ressliss. Not a one of them, nor any of their spinsters, knows why.

By Dusty

February 3, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

Gentlemen,

I see the “stuff” is already being thrown at McCain. Most of it has more holes than a hunk of Swiss cheese. I mean, can’t Americans elect ANYBODY without smearing them first with scum?

That POW story taken from the translations of a teenage interpreter and stored in Russia’s archives & on & on & away… suddenly comes to light, time away with an apartment & “girls” paid for by ??? his father an admiral in the Navy??? Somebody (dead) confirmed part of something.Tra la la la And to start with, no one is sure it is a true story.

Then the McCain lies, mostly changes in his opinion after observing a changed situation. What next? Somebody going to find a Mexican baby this time? I am not a particular fan of McCain but I think he and EVEN Democrats should not be hounded with unsupportable derogatory accusations from planted gossip. And temper tantrums, puhleeze!!! Barbara Boxer’s every “speak” I’ve seen on TV was a temper tantrum.

I don’t know who is behind all of this on both sides, but it is rediculous and harmful. Americans ought to complain every day that this is NOT the way to get or keep decent politicians in our government.

By TW

February 3, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

God Bless John McCain for understanding the plight of the undocumented worker.

JOHN MCCAIN ‘08

PATRIOTISM BEFORE PROFIT

By Dusty

February 3, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

@@ 4:03

I saw your post after I had posted mine.

One thing I can say about the “T” book, it gives me a little more admiration for NY Times, the Washington Post and news broadcasts for not using material with unsupportable info aka propaganda.

But…I wonder how long that will last?

Have fun at the Super party. I’m waiting for the Braves to show up before I make merry.

By getalife

February 3, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Yes crusty, they will lie like this

They call Obama a muslim.

“Fox News Documentary: George W. Bush is SO like Abraham Lincoln”

Yes, he started a ME civil war.

BILL KRISTOL: Look the only people for Hillary Clinton are the Democratic establishment and white women… it would be crazy for the Democratic party to follow the establishment that’s led them to defeat year after year… White Women are a problem - but, you know… we all live with that…

[Hume, Williams, Wallace, Liaison crack up]

JUAN WILLIAMS: not me…

HUME: For the record, I like white women.

Lost their freaking minds.

Geez.

By Glenn

February 3, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Can’t most of it be true, and still not dissuade you from supporting the man and opposing those who smear him, whether with the truth or with lies (both are inevitable)?

Could you handle that strong meat?

By Luckoduh

February 3, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

{{{{RASMUSSEN POLL: CA: Obama 45% Clinton 44% McCain 38% Romney 38%}}}}

{{{{GA: McCain 31% Romney 29% Huck 28% Obama 52% Clinton 37%}}}}

Bwa.

We got Hickabee out of the way now let’s go get McBushie.

By RW-(the original)

February 3, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Before heaping praise on the NY Times, Washington Post, et al consider what they would likely have done if McCain wasn’t their chosen candidate for the Republican side. Or worse yet consider this.

We know full well that they’ll do whatever they can to elect the Democrat so I tend to believe they’re just keeping their powder dry until McCain has been nominated at which time they’ll suddenly become interested.

By Glenn

February 3, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Luckoduh,

Rasmussen’s CA numbers for McCheese and Rominy are stunning. Thanks.

By Dusty

February 3, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

goofygetal @4:47

You may have a point. Having a muslim name does not a muslim make.

There is no honest evidence that Hillary is a lesbian as suggested by that line. It is an impression many people perceive but that is not fact.

Once again, if you can’t prove a rumor, then don’t say it.

Glenn @ 4:53

I don’t beat around the bush and guess at nasty rumors. Either produce the facts or shutup. Smear them with the truth is OK. Smearing with lies makes the “smearer” a crook.

I didn’t think journalists were supposed to sit on the fence about truth. Maybe it is no longer in style.

I don’t go for strong meat. It is tainted.

By Devastator

February 3, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

You people need to get the hell off of this blog, turn on the Super Bowl and enjoy life!!!

By Dusty

February 3, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

RW@4:59

There you go, bursting my bubble on finding an honest news source.

So you are thinking that they wait to see if McCain gets to run? Wonder what is in store for Romney if and when? Awwww…can’t I be a rebel with a cause?? Integrity, that is.

By getalife

February 3, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

The surge is working in crap

The Iraqis are getting fed up with their government and the attacks will increase. It has already started.

By GaVoter

February 3, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

Glenn,

So, this unpopular, unsplintered, undocumented society with the GOP must be quite the secret for I’ve heard less of it than I have of McKinney’s indoctrination into the Green Party. At least the Dems don’t have much to fear this time around, do they?

By Dusty

February 3, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this

getilgoof@5:23,

You need a “surge” in that one track mind of yours. You haven’t had one in a long time.

By profit

February 3, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this

The zionists own McClown, a vote for the cancer faced baby burner is a vote for four more years of war, incuding an attack on Iran, and just maybe a nuclear exchange with the Russians. As your family lies dying from radiation poisioning in your basement or whatever passes for a shelter in your home, remember this election and all the lies told by the likes of dusty, glenn, RW, JMBQUACK, and the Clinton-McClown followers. The pro-israel lobby will kill us all in their frantic efforts to glorify their god, the foreign nation of israel, ill gotten as it is.

By profit

February 3, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

I would argue that had the final solution succeeded, the world would be a much better place today. America would be at peace with the muslim world, Israel would not be stealing tens of billions of American tax dollars each and every year, 9/11 would never have happended, and the looting of America by the wall street theives would never have happened (they share a common religion, right Steve ShaftmanSwine?). A few million more deaths to benefit six and half billion people is not too high a price to pay, ye, it is a bargain. Think of the good the hundreds of billions of American tax dollars that have gone to produce the Israeli war machine could have done in third world countries like Biafra, Bangladesh, most of Africa, etc… Yes, completion of the final solution would have been a great benefit to mankind, worthy of a Nobel prize….

By Luckoduh

February 3, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Glenn February 3, 2008 5:09 PM | Luckoduh, Rasmussen’s CA numbers for McCheese and Rominy are stunning. Thanks.}}}}

Glenn: What’s even better is that Snowflake has overcome an enormous lead and is now pulling away from the Klanner.

Someone once said that the winner of CA will win the nomination.

I usually think what this person says is ridiculous but in this case, and only this case, I agree with him.

Snowflake will win the nomination.

And he will be unmercifully swiftboated by the GOP.

We shall reduce him to tears, like Ku Klux Rodham, except his will be real.

Bwa.

Uh, the Giants are fixing to get blowed out.

By OneForTheRoad

February 3, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

profit. Dude. Are you OK? Please, partake of a brew. Ha Ha. And, have a relaxing evening watching the padded ones punch it out.

Anyway, that’s what I always say.

By Glenn

February 3, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

Luckoduh,

More greatly appreciated news. The old addage is true, in recent decades, for Democrats in CA; not so true for GOP. Hillary’s such a write off; Obama’s not, characterwisically.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

GaVoter,

Don’t know what you mean by a “society”, unless you happen to know that we keep in touch mostly via email now. What’re you talking about?

I’m talking about some current and former politicians and staff who, together with a few, well-funded party stalwarts, want to see a thorough re-working of government services at all levels, from municipal to federal. We believe that it’s in that project, and not our support of any particular candidate, that our duty lies. There are even a few Democrats who, in that mode, feel more comfortable with us than with their own party.

Historically bent (!) as I am, I more than half-seriously liken us to the Radical Republicans who drove Reconstruction, and hence my use of the term with you.

Surely none of this is news to you. And no, the Democrats have nothing to fear. As long as W is the head of our Party, the GOP leadership will be too busy being Democrats to pose a threat to the real DP.

By GaVoter

February 4, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

I guess I have to break the news to you Glenn. I really thought Reconstruction was over with. So, the use of the label “Radical Republican” REALLY threw me. I’ll know to take you at your word in the future.

By Michael

February 4, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

Who ever the Dems nominate will trounce McCain in the gen. election. McCain’s base of support is moderates and independants (who generally lean left anyway.) I know they like him, but when those people get in the voting booth in Nov. the majority of his base will support the Dem. nominee. I speak for myself, but if Mccain or Huckabee get the nod, I will still vote, but I will not vote for a presidential “choice.”

I guess McCain wil be our sacrificial lamb, (like Dole in ‘96) until we can get a candidate we can rally around in ‘12

By Amy

February 4, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Let us not forget why McCain lost the nomination the first time around. campaigning in 2000, he famously described Christians as “agents of intolerance” and this is why he lost the GOP nomination. He has been consistanly against more conservative principles than any other senator out there from tax cuts, to immigration, to abortion (yes he has a sorted record there), to the marriage amendment, campaign finance reform, global warming tax, all the way to opposing republican attempts to confirm conservative judges.

Being pro war does not make you a conservative “my friend”

By Will

February 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

I believe that Mitt Romney represents the worst in a politician. He will tell you anything that he thinks you want to hear if he thinks it will get you to vote for him. You want to abolish the Department of Education, he did too until that became a losing polling side and now he does not want to abolish the Department of Education. Pro-life, gay marriage, universal health care, NRA and hunting - everyone knows about those flip-flops. The most demoralizing flip-flop for me personally was his first pronouncment as to how much he regretted not joining the army and going to Vietnam, only to have a news article dug up that quotes him as saying that military service was never an option for him. Romney is viable if the economy was the only issue but cannot be trusted with social issues nor the leadership of the free world.

If the best you can do is, “oh yeah, well ————- is worse (or did the same thing,etc), don’t bother.

The democrats do not offer a viable alternative for me and the republicans are down to a pure, 100% politician (Romney), a questionable conservative (McCain) and a non-electable decent and honorable conservative (Huckabee).

Unlike others, I guess I will vote for McCain in the general election because I would rather have him nominating the next three Supreme Court Justices than either of the democrat choices (and you know you would too, no matter how much you dislike him because of immigration or his prickly personality).

If I did not think that multiple opportunities would occur to replace Justices, I would either sit this one out or join the growing number of conservatives who plan to vote for a third party candidate, thereby better ensuring that the democrats will regain the White House. It hardly seems to matter economically based on the current administration’s disdain for either vetoing out-of-control spending.

If Romney is the nominee, I believe the democrats will have a year approaching the 1964 landslide of Lyndon Johnson. Other than the “solid south”, Utah and Idaho, I would not be surprised if Romney lost every other state.

I cannot understand how the republican party could have fallen so far so fast to the point where this is all we have to choose from.

By Vandstra

February 4, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

yawn

By Jack

February 4, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

The Republicans did it to themselves. Spending like drunken sailors, ethical as used car salesmen.

By The Choices

February 4, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

The separation on Church and State should be total and unyielding just like the founding fathers intended.

Huckabee is a genuinely nice guy and would probably do decent job as president but his faith won’t seem to allow for the separation of Church and State at the proper level. I will NOT be voting for any Baptist ministers.

Romney is the classic politician, able to change his views and politics according to the latest polls and predictions and make it sound all good. He lacks all genuine integrity and will say or promise anything to anyone to get elected. I will NOT be voting for any Mormon hucksters.

Hillary and Bill Clinton are the ultimate Washington insiders and perfect examples of everything that is wrong with American politics and Washington. Leave it to Slick Willie to get around the 2 term limit those pesky founding fathers wrote into the Constitution and get more of that every so precious power the insiders crave. If the Billary campaign wins every regular hard working American loses to the corrupt underhanded backstabbing conniving ilk that permeate Washington like feces in a sewer. I will NEVER vote for any Clinton for any office, ever.

Obama is out of his league and his meager accomplishments as Senator and total lack of Military and Foreign affairs experience do not quality him to be Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces and Leader of the Free World. Just because you are half Black or White or Hispanic or the love child of a little green man from Mars does not make you either qualified or not qualified to hold any position whatsoever. Obama is young, has plenty of time, and should try again in 8 years when he has more experience.

McCain is not conservation enough for the richest bible thumping anti-abortion cold hearted money grubbers. This is a good thing. You don’t hear much about his military record since unlike others he doesn’t have to lie about it. He served, he paid a high price and he understands those who serve now and the wars this nation will have to fight in the coming years. I have confidence with him in dealing with our Allies and Enemies alike. I WILL vote for McCain.

By Del

February 4, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

Sounds like Glen is pretending that he’s really William Buckley.Nice try but you’er no Buckley. Probably wasn’t even around when Reagan was President.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

That’s a good thing, Del, as there’s only one WFB and I can’t think of a thing of mine that would remind you of him except that he too is distinguished by his enemies.

As for Reagan, you’d just be surprised, Del.

You’d just be very surprised.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

The Choices,

That’s a sharp analysis. And, as Vandstra yawned, Michael, Amy, Will and Jack kicked in some great points too.

On religion, though. Some people are Baptist preachers who are not Baptist preachers; others are not Baptis preachers who are Baptist preachers.

Of President Carter, whose late-night call he’d just finished answering, Senator Humphrey once remarked to his Press Secretary: “Sometimes I’m afraid that man’s just a g******* Baptist preacher!”

But have no fear of Mr. Huckabee. He’s at pains to reassure you that he believes in nothing in particular.

Finally, the Founding Fathers did not believe that “The separation of Church and State should be total and unwielding.” This is untrue partly because “the Founding Fathers” never envisioned such a wall, much less did they specify its attributes.

Another reason why the assertion is untrue is that far from impermiability, the Framers wanted religious virtue to inform politics, without politics in any way informing or coloring free religious expression. Their concern was that religion be permitted by government to thrive; they (other than Thomas Paine) did not fear government control of religion, as they’d just finished disestablishing the Church.

And indeed, theocracy’s never really reared its ugly head in any of the 50 states, unless you count the spectre of Father Coughlin’s presidential ambitions in the ’30s—-a weird little interlude that occurred while FDR was asleep at the switch.

By Glenn

February 4, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

Sorry, but when quoting someone I’m a stickler for accuracy. The expression that Hubert Humphrey used was “…just a God damned Baptist preacher!”

By Political Foreskin

February 4, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

Oh, you’re a stickler alright.

By Political Foreskin

February 4, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

Eli!

By Juan

February 5, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

I will be voting for senor~ mccain!!!

free citizenship!!!! amnesty for all! la raza! the taco and burrito fiesta is at mi casa amigos!

oh and by the way thanks for paying for my 5 kids to go to public school for free..and for the extra ESOL teachers you had to hire.. and that “free” trip to the ER last year.. muchos gracias tax paying gringos!!!!

dumb gringos

By therealist

February 6, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

Iran, Cuba, Syria and North Korea all support Clinton as US president. That’s why I will be voting for McCain..

By Truth

February 6, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

It always amazes me to read the reckless comments made by the uninformed masses. It is precisely this “liberal because he speaks to Democrats” type attitude that got all of you Republicans in trouble in the first place. $5 trillion in debt (and more to come) Recession (yes, face it - especially given it’s an election year), and a war without end… What has it gotten us? What are we protecting, when we’ll all be living in boxes under bridges because our homes are gone, our jobs are gone, and our country is eventually financial and morally bankrupt? “The Right” is not moral - it’s blind. Wake up from your Bush-induced, Reagan wannabe dream… It’s time we actually showed that respect for others and compassion make this country great - not you or your party’s narrow mindedness.

I’m looking forward to November, and even more so - January 20th, 2009.

By Lou Argus

February 6, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

For your edification,and education, the 2 term limit was not put in by the constitution convention.

By Political Foreskin

February 6, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

This year’s superbowl 42 is considered one of the greatest ever, in fact, they’re ranking it 2nd only to the Hannah Montana movie.

Super Tuesday decided nothing. Nothing decides nothing till Diebold says it does, (or the supreme court, or that fat lady in Ohio who stuffed all those ballots up her twinkie, Did you know that she served only thirty days in the county clink for that? There’s no justice.)

That’s 4 sure,

that’s 4 dang sure.

Eli Manning!!

By Corey

February 7, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

I know that my following post is way off the topic, but I had to find a blog to post my comments. So, this blog will do. How in the he@# can anyone vote for Felecia Moore of the Atlanta City Council to represent them? Ms. Moore would rather the residents of Bowen Homes remain trapped in a crime infested, dlapidated public housing project than have them relocate out of her district to better housing. She is fighting the Atlanta Housing Authority, to no avail, to delay demolishing that hell hole. Perhaps she should move in? The gall of some politicians to hold on to power. Ms. Moore, any idiot can see through your motives. You want to use these people as political pawns for fear of loosing your base. Shame and disgust; your motives are vile!

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