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McCain-Romney: 10-9-8…

As expected, Rudy Giuliani pulled the plug and endorsed John McCain — something that should help McCain a tad in at least four of next week’s Super Tuesday primaries: New York,New Jersey, Connecticut and Deleware, where 201 delegates are up for grabs.

Rumors are swirling, too, that California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is set to endorse McCain, though he indicated any endorsement will come after Super Tuesday, when California votes. “I’ve always said that I would stay out of the whole thing of endorsing anybody until our, you know, primaries are over, so I think that’s exactly what I’m going to do,” Schwarzenegger said on CNN. California offers 173 delegates, but they’re divided by congressional districts. Schwarzenegger was re-elected in a landslide 2006 and remains popular, so an endorsement before Tuesday could matter.

The two-man race the hunt for delegates has become was evident Wednesday night at the Ronald Reagan Library debate — though Mike Huckabee continues to hang in there, at Romney’s expense.

Romney argued last night that McCain is out of the conservative mainstream. McCain-Feingold. Twice opposing President Bush’s tax cuts on the basis then that they favored the rich, though he subsequently argued that his opposition was because he wanted offsetting spending cuts.

“Those view are outside the view of mainstream Republican thought,” Romney said. “I’m proud of my conservative record,” McCain replied, accusing Romney of leaving Massachusetts with high taxes and heavy debt.

In a preview of clashes to come, Romney accused McCain of dirty tricks in Florida for his last-minute accusation that the governor had supported a date for withdrawal. In the days before Tuesday’s primary, McCain said “If we surrender and wave a white flag, like Senator Clinton wants to do, and withdraw, as Governor Romney wanted to do, there there will be chaos, genocide, and the cost of American blood and treasure would be dramatically higher.”

Romney accused McCain then, and again Wednesday night, of being dishonest.

McCain’s basis was Good Morning America interview last April. The interviewer, Robin Roberts, said “you have also been very vocal in supporting the president and the troop surge. Yet, the American public has lost faith in this war.” Then she asked: “Do you believe that there should be a timetable in withdrawing the troops?”

His reply:

“Well, there’s no question but that the president and Prime Minister al-Maliki have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about. But those shouldn’t be for public pronouncement. You don’t want the enemy to understand how long they have to wait in the weeds until you’re going to be gone. You want to have a series of things you want to accomplish in terms of the strength of the Iraqi military and the Iraqi police and the leadership of the Iraqi government.”

“So, private,” said Robins. “You wouldn’t do it publicly? Because the president has said flat out that he will veto anything the Congress passes about a timetable for troop withdrawals. As president, would you do the same?”

Reply: “Well, of course. Can you imagine a setting where during the Second World War we said to the Germans, gee, if we haven’t reached the Rhine by this date, why, we’ll go home, or if we haven’t gotten this accomplished we’ll pull up and leave? You don’t publish that to your enemy, or they just simply lie in wait until that time. So, of course, you have to work together to create timetables and milestones, but you don’t do that with the opposition.”

McCain can wear a little thin on Iraq — and on his assertion that he was the lone warrior spelling out the troop surge strategy. He was constantly second-guessing the administration on troop numbers, but that is not quite the same as being the leading light of the troop surge strategy. (Check out the Mike Lucovich cartoon today on McCain.)

He’s a loveable fuzz-ball now with an inspiring life story but by October, if he’s the nominee, McCain will be a kooky old war-monger vilified by the left in the same way that LBJ Daisy-ed Barry Goldwater with the famous September, 1964 commercial of the little girl counting off to nuclear war. Goldwater’s slogan was: “In your heart, you know he’s right.” Bill Moyers, LBJ’s press secretary and later a PBS journalist, responded with: “In your guts, you know he’s nuts.” McCain’s habit of smirking dismissively, as he did Wednesday night to Romney’s explanation of his views on Iraq, can come across as bizarre.

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By TW

January 31, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

JOHN MCCAIN ‘08

PATRIOTISM BEFORE PROFIT

By @@

January 31, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

Jim:

Does McCain or Feingold work at the AJC cause your freedom of speech has been hijacked/delayed this morning.

He’s a loveable fuzz-ball

McCain is loveable? Oh contraire…a fuzz-ball better describes McCain.

Good for Arnold btw. I don’t want others influencing mine or anyone else’s vote. Crist’s endorsement really ticked me off, but once it came I had to question why so late.

Rudy’s “just a tad” for McCain?

Thank-you Rudy. You still da man!

By Aquagirl

January 31, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

@@, Arnold’s flip-flopped and will now endorse McCain.

By jbmlaw

January 31, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. The numbers work against Mitt without Rudy in the campaign. Mitt would have to win New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut on Super Tuesday to be competitive; I don’t see it happening.

“Ah, but the strawberries, that’s where I had them…” A Clinton-McCain contest would be incredibly vicious, for reasons I leave unstated. I think McCain will match up better against Hillary than he will against Obama. I also suspect we will see pressure, in both parties, for something like a “unity” ticket. Of the four still standing, only Mitt shows reasonable competence in economics – that does not bode well for the country.

By @@

January 31, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Aquagirl:

I just read where you are right.

The west coast doesn’t flip-flop.

It tilts.

By Bob

January 31, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

Huckabee needs to get the hell out of the race.

By Dr. Vacillator

January 31, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

Wasn’t it, like, yesterday you said you could warm to McCain? And, now the Republican ticket is doomed if he’s the nominee? I though Zell was the zig-zagger, Jimbo. He’s got nothing on you.

By Dusty

January 31, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

@@ & aquagirl,

That is good news about Schartzenegger. According to reports, he is a friend of Guiliani. I hope he will encourage the big “G” to pair up with McCain as the VP. That would give McCain the fire he needs behind his solid front.

By ToldYouSo

January 31, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

What is it that you right wingers don’t understand? You and Lou Dobbs have so much in common. You right wing bigots are no more than a blib on this country’s radar screen. You are not in the mainstream of the Republican party. If you were and your nativist, bigoted, xenophobic views were shared by the REAL mainstream Republican constituency, Mitt Romnet would be running away with this thing. Instead, McCain is going to have it wrapped up after Super Tuesday. What does that tell you wingwacks? You guys are in the trash bin. Where you so rightfully belong. Enjoy the next eight years boneheads. You are finally getting what you deserve.

By profit

January 31, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

A vote for McCain is a vote for four more years of war…In five years, will one or more of your rug rats lie dead in the deserts of Iraq or Iran, all for the greater glory of Israel, and Joe LieberSwine? Vote Romney or Obama, as they are the only two likely to end this mindless war of extermination against Arabs.

By gurgle

January 31, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

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By GaVoter

January 31, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten,

After reading through the preliminary assessment of the McCain-Romney/DNC smackdown, I’m left somewhat bewildered. While I agree that McCain’s Can’t we just get along demeanor is ripe for the DNC trash machine’s picking, how is Romney to be better shielded from the ultimate DNC foray? The only thing I see so far in Romney’s favor is his satchel of greenbacks. For one thing, I think he will be DESTROYED on his “immigration plan”. For another, I don’t see his “business manager” presentation buying him much with the laid off of the working class. “I feel your pain” just doesn’t resonate when spoken by him. Further, I think Kerry is just “chomping at the bit” in anticipation of letting into either McCain or Romney — Swiftboat or Flip-Flop — take your pick. He seems to be determined to make fodder of someone.

Anyway, those are just a few of my thoughts.

By Really?

January 31, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw, Mitt Romney subscribes to the same economic principles that got us in the mess we are in right now. Want more of the same ole shi#? Vote Mitt.

By MELO

January 31, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

Jim and his paper have endorsed THE MORMOM so he will adequately dig and disclose anything that puts Mcain in bad light, while shielding anything that does the same to THE MORMON We have had enough of the so-called corporate guys, we dont want anymore slick-willy car sales people in the white house.We have had enough. THE MORMON is slick,phoney,liberal,corrupt,changes with the political wind and has no experience and credibility outside of Massachusets.Lets keep that cross dresser back there.

By Dusty

January 31, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

ToldYouSo @9:38

McCain SUPPORTS OUR TROOPS in the war in Iraq and he will get the support of Americans who do the same.

Americans are getting sick of the anti-war socialistic party of Democrats.

Obama continues with his anti-war rhetoric. Those of us who support the troops do not like those who undermine the very war in which they are fighting.

So take your pick. The white flag or the red, white & blue? I’ll vote for a bonehead Republican everytime if that is what it takes to support those who fight for us.

By The Minstrel

January 31, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

In honor of the The Man Who Made History Stand Still, I have adapted a famous herald’s ballad to describe the Giuliani campaign strategy, from Iowa to Florida, inclusive:

Brave Sir Rudy ran away / Bravely ran away, away! / When danger reared its ugly head, /
He bravely turned his tail and fled. / Brave, brave Sir Rudy!

Yes, brave Sir Rudy turned about / And gallantly he chickened out. / Bravely taking to his feet / He beat a very brave retreat, / Bravest of the brave, Sir Rudy!

He is packin9 1t 1n and packing it up / And sneaking away and bug9er11ng up / And chickening out and pi$$ing off home, / Yes, bravely he is throwing in the sponge / Brave, brave Sir Rudy!

By profit

January 31, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Dusty, I for one hope and pray that the first rug rat to go face down in Iran is one of YOUR rug rats, you lazy, do nothing, blogging fool.

By Political Foreskin

January 31, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Wooten must have watched Hannity and listened to Rush yesterday.

Hannity + Rush = HUSH!

By Bob Dole

January 31, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Bob Dole knows the pain and humiliation of erecti1e disfunction that results from prostate sugery. Bob Dole feels sympathy for Rudy Giuliani today, recognizing a man who had all the best intentions, but was unable to maintain solidity for an entire mission and had to pull out before he could get the job done.

That’s why Bob Dole endorses Viagra. Bob Dole uses it. Rudy should have, too.

By Dennis

January 31, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

McCain’s answer to a withdrawal timetable in Iraq is revealing; not about himself so much, but of the hypocracy of Bush - who announces a timetable so that the enemy will know, but when it comes to Americans wanting to know why they can’t get answers to why they were spied upon prior to 9/11, or why the Department of Justice needed to be (one party) politicized, or we do/don’t torture or destroy tapes, or answers to investigations into the hired guns of Blackwater, or Cheney’s behind closed doors adventures with the energy corporations, or, and endless list of lobbyist wrong doings - to give answers to these would be “aiding the enemy.”

The enemy in this case, being the American people.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it

By Dusty

January 31, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Minstrel@9:53

Thanks for the poetry. Always a welcome break. Did you see where Mrs. Lilly gave million to Poetry Magazine last fall? I just read about it in an old magazine. That was a pleasant surprise.

But…you have the wrong name in your substitution in the ballad. You are singing the song of the Democratic Party every since we have been fighting in Iraq.

Could it be that you are a poetic liberal?

By Tommy

January 31, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

McCain is not a redneck bigot. That is why he gets my vote. Therefore I would like to express my congratulations to all of you Woo-ten Klansmen and Klangals that played such a vital role in alienating yourselves from mainstream Republicans. My thanks to you for insuring that the racist panderer, Mitt Romney and his anti-immigrant, bigoted, and xenophobic constituency has absolutely no chance of getting the Republican nomination. Finally, mainstream Republicans are standing up and letting their voices be heard where it counts. At the ballot box. McCAIN in 08! AIN’T IT GREAT?

By Redneck Convert

January 31, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Well, I hope this @@ with the coping saw knows what she is asking for. Getting this Giuliani in as VP. If he was VP and this Mormon was the president, we would have one guy bringing in four or five First Ladys and the other out running around with a mistress and using the FBI to take her grocery shopping and walk her dog. She better use her coping saw on all of them before they get elected.

I’m just disgusted and heartsick. If this McCain is a real Republican then I’m a colledge Perfesser. He voted against My President’s tax cuts and wrote up a amnesty bill for the illegals and won’t do nothing about abortion and probly don’t even like the Death Penalty. If him and this Hillary woman run against each other you won’t even be able to tell the diffrence. Except the shape of the skin.

And the best man for the job gets overlooked. Here the Rev. Huckabee is running hard and nobody pays no attention to him. If this keeps up we might as well elect My President’s daddy again.

This campaign has took a wrong turn and can’t find the right road. All us conservatives have done will just be erased and for no good reason. Here we finally got a Supreme Court that’s to our liking and we’ve cut way back on welfare programs and give the tax breaks to the people that make the big money. And that ain’t good enough. No, they got to carp about a little debt and a few thousand soldiers kilt and our jobs going overseas and our mail being read and stuff like that.

Us godly conservatives might just stay home on election day. It won’t matter who gets elected, the way things is going. I’m just disgusted.

By Aquagirl

January 31, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

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We’re both in error, the West coast doesn’t tilt, it slides

Dusty,

No time to argue, too much to do, and I was out late at the Democratic fundraiser last night. Didn’t want to miss an opportunity to see the next President up close and in person.

By ron

January 31, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Limbaugh must be about ballistic these days.Not a conservative in sight.I can’t stand to listen to the druggie so I’m only guessing.John McCain and I think a lot alike and I couldn’t see anyone casting a vote for me,so beware in November.

Huckabee is going to play spoiler for someone.He may even win a state before he’s done.Ya have to love it.

By Glenn

January 31, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

Cool job on McCain, Jim. All one needs to get one’s ball bearings on McCain are two words: The strawberries.

By Dusty

January 31, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Dear Profit,10:05

Always a ray of sunhine in your bigoted, bloated way, aren’t you?

We are not at war with Iran. I see that you are referring to our troops as rug rats. Well, you are not a rug rat. You are just a plain ol’ rat.

The blog is kinda fun this morning, even a bit of a ballad. I wish I could stay longer. But I’m leaving shortly. Don’t cry now!!

By Dusty

January 31, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

Aquagirl@10:14

You wasted your time last night.

By OneForTheRoad

January 31, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Well, I suppose no matter who ends up in D.C. we’ll keep on doing what we do so well — Death and Taxes. Yep. The correlation is well established and like President Bush said of No-Child-Left-Behind — “No one can deny the results…” — the same can be said in this case: If you die early, you’ll pay less taxes and if you die later, you’ll pay more taxes. No one can deny.

By getalife

January 31, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Yes, McInsane promised more war and doubting his sanity.

Last night in the Reagan zombie debate, he was asked a question about the economy. He answered the surge is working and he got rid of Rumsfeld, WTF?

Then willard was asked about leading the military. He answered it is not like checkers but 3 D chess. WTF?

Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan, etc,,,, no new ideas and no solutions. It was like watching an episode of the Twilight Zone.

Clinton will crush them both like she will to seal the deal tonight in the last debate before super Tuesday.

By Aquagirl

January 31, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

We’ll see. Plus, even if Hillary doesn’t win, I hardly see how attending a function with a true war hero like Max Cleland is a waste of time. Perhaps it is, to the demographic which would invest their time in watching American Idol while stuffing down Doritos. But not to me.

Off to work. Unlike running up our debt, work is what makes this country stronger.

By deegee

January 31, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

“McCain’s habit of smirking dismissively, as he did Wednesday night to Romney’s explanation of his views on Iraq, can come across as bizarre.”

Yes, we know from experience to run from bizarre smirks. But what I find amusing is the way Mitt, the bigtime executive reacts when someone gets him hot under the collar. You can tell that he’s used to going off like Donald Trump on Rosie O’Donnell, but he can’t do that anymore. It would look bad. Instead you see him mentally counting to ten while his veins pop out and his flesh turns red. Then he delivers what he considers an acceptable retort that is as stiff as his upper lip. He would be a disaster in the global political poker game.

By AmVet

January 31, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

ron, great observation.

I knew many months ago that this year was going to be a horrific one for the GOP and it’s scandal-ridden neo-cons/non-conservative conservatives.

But it it truly gratifying to see that now discounted element of that party getting clobbered almost daily. Look at the fallout of supposed patriots and conservatives - Brownback, Tancredo, Hunter, Fat Fred and now “9/11” Rudy. Huckabee is certainly next. Followed shortly by slick Mitt.

And as most of the remaining faux conservatives detest McCain, that bodes even better for the country.

Notwithstanding last night’s sermon, er debate, in the House of the Most Revered, the political boondoggle wrought upon the nation by Ronnie/Newt/George is almost officially dead. Just look at the host governor as evidence.

Wake up Republicans.

BushCo and its proxies have decimated the legitimacy of your once-relevant party. And unless and until you change courses dramatically you are probably looking at another forty years in the political land of nod.

By Tommy

January 31, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Mitt Romney could jus possibly be the biggest fraud to ever run for the presidency. He would be an absolute disaster. Just like our present prez.

By getalife

January 31, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

But tonight’s debate will bring us sanity, new ideas and solutions.

For the first time in American history, a African American and a woman are debating for the Dem nomination .

One of them will make history in getting the nomination and probably the Presidency.

Like Germany and other countries, I think we will have our first woman President, President Hillary Clinton.

By Walt

January 31, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Well stated AmVet. You nailed it. Maybe the right wing is finally dead. At least for about 8 years.

By getalife

January 31, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

But tonight’s debate will bring us sanity, new ideas and solutions.

For the first time in American history, a African American and a woman are debating for the Dem nomination .

One of them will make history in getting the nomination and probably the Presidency.

Like Germany and other countries, I think we will have our first woman President, President Hillary Clinton.

By Political Foreskin

January 31, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

If Swartzenegger, with his broken english, backed Huckabee, would he say, “I’ll back ‘bee”?

By AmVet

January 31, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

IF, and it’s still a big if, McCain and Obama win their party’s nominations, it’s going to remind me of the Tennessee Titans and the St. Louis Rams in the Superbowl here in Atlanta a few years ago.

You scratch your head and say, how the h&ll did THAT happen?

By profit

January 31, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Well, ah see’s Dusty and her alter ego, jmblawless have all run away, dragging their two hind legs….

By Lily Toad

January 31, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Just wait until McInsane gets the nomination and see what Wooten writes about him. I’ll bet he’ll be rooting big time.

By Shar

January 31, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

Getalife @ 10:57 - Be careful what you wish for. Hillary Clinton scores higher than any other candidate, by far, on traits such as unlikeable and untrustworthy, and she stirs up so much antipathy among Republicans that they’ll be motivated to turn out and vote regardless of a lack of enthusiasm for their party’s candidate. The “most emailed” list for today’s NYTimes has not one but two highly derogatory articles about her and her husband; the same editorial page that endorsed her carried two columns that were highly critical of her behavior.

I am fascinated as well by the reaction of my kids and their friends. Raised intown, in a liberal area, socially and politically left-leaners, they are not terribly impressed by the racial or gender significance of the Democratic contenders. They are mildly interested in Senator Obama but nearly unanimous in their desire to exercise their brand-new voting power against Senator Clinton. Male, female, black, white, Asian - they don’t like her and are delighted that they have an opportunity to express that meaningfully. Sad to say, their first votes will be cast negatively rather than positively.

The Democratic establishment is cutting her loose. She’s simply not electable. Particularly against someone like Senator McCain. A vote for Senator Clinton ushers in four more years of a Republican presidency.

By getalife

January 31, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

OMG, Jim is pimping ml’s toon.

Liberal.

fox news called.

They want their cartoonist back.

By getalife

January 31, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

Total corporate media bs Shar. Corporate media and the RW are pimping Obama, then they will turn on him and he will get crushed.

She will run ads on McInsane’s answer to a question on the economy to expose that nut bag.

She will win on every single issue in a landslide.

By Jackie

January 31, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Dubya has “decided” the troops will stay in Iraq longer than spring and he will not significantly reduce the number of troops. In addition, he has made a decision to keep our troops in place to help “our Iraqi ally” defend itself ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC????? The professional USA military says we can not keep this strategy in place past spring without breaking the Army and Marines. A report out today by the Pentagon says that if there were a large scale attack on the USA, we do not have sufficient forces and equipment to defend the country. Another report indicates that suicide rates among our military is at record levels. Address for Washington Post article on soldier suicides.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/30/AR2008013003106.html?nav%3Dhcmodule&sub=AR

By JK

January 31, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

Aquagirl, What was up with that weird dessert? I couldn’t eat it, but did actually enjoy the wine and chicken. Yes, it’s always great to see Sen. Cleland, as well as (my fave) John Lewis, and the whole gang. We will be unified by summer, y’all. We are getting behind our nominee and putting him or her in the White House. Deal.

By Three-dot Dot...

January 31, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

…A winner of a bumper sticker you got there, TW…@@, check out the long and brilliant chapter on Biden in R.B. Cramer’s award-winning What It Takes…Aquagirl, notwithstanding @@, the West Coast doesn’t flip-flop; it thongs…Bob gets a gold star…CA will take Arnold’s lead, Dusty, because they like him and are too sun-baked to think for themselves (same reason why Mexico hasn’t elected an honest Presidente in 137 years: Yanqui Global Warming)…Dobbs isn’t a “right-winger”, ToldYouSo, he’s a populist xenophobe, a Know-Nothing demagogue who flies no flag but his own…”four more years of war”, profit? We haven’t fought a war in more than four years. McCain means at least four more years of draw-down to your permanent occupation of Iraq and four more years of policing of Afganistan, maybe with OBL’s scalp to show for it…

By Curious Observer

January 31, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Any candidate with a 51% national negative rating is going to lose. I’ve pointed that out three times before. If Hillary is the nominee, she loses, unless she’s running against someone with a 52% negative rating.

It’s just bad luck that during the year when the Democrats have the best chance to retake the White House, the two finalists for the nomination are fatally flawed—Hillary because, fairly or unfairly, Newt Gingrich and his crowd did such a splendid smear job on her and her husband, and Barack because he’s black in a country that still harbors racist tendencies and because the “lacks experience” tag can be applied to him.

Finally, this country tends to split party control of the country. If the Democrats have Congress, the electorate is likely to put a Republican in the White House.

Better get used to saying President McCain. The Democrats blew their chances when Edwards, the only electable one of the three major Democratic candidates, failed to gain sufficient support.

You can tell me how wrong I am the day after the presidential election. Believe me, I take no joy in the situation. McCain is already 8 points up in the national polling, and he will grow only stronger as the Democratic finalists continue to tear one another up.

By Glenn

January 31, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Well, C.O., I’d like to tell you how you’re wrong now, even before election day. I’d like to tell you that both you and Mr. Barnum underestimate the American People, that they are too street-smart to believe, as a majority, what comes out of the mouth of John Edwards.

I’d like to tell you, but you may be right.

By Susan

January 31, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

McCain looked like a demented old man..only able to be stuck on the timetable word….. He is not a leader…other than to lead our country into shambles with his open border, amnesty nonsense. He is so far left, he should change parties! Good old Arnold endorsing McCain? big surprise! Arnold is on the left, related to Kennedy, old school politics.McCain-Kennedy, McCain- Feingold, McCain -Lieberman, McCian and Keating 5. Great conservative, huh?? McCain is a sorry site. If McCain is nominated…..God help us…I’ll have to skip voting for the first time in 25 years!

By Shar

January 31, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Getalife @ 11:28 - I agree that Senator Obama will be crushed, unless he’s running against Mitt Romney. They might make a contest of it.

I stand by my thoughts on Senator Clinton, however. If she takes the nomination, she’ll be hammered on the cattle futures deal, the Travel Office, the health care debacle, “trailer trash” and “baking cookies” remarks, her Iraq votes, carpet bagging to say nothing of all the baggage carried by her husband and the distaste Americans have toward the “two for one” concept inherent in the Clintons. Senator McCain’s lack of expertise in economics can be fixed with a credible VP pick. Senator Clinton’s negatives are personal and, after so many years, entrenched.

The “corporate media” you dismiss prominently endorsed her. Hard to brush off criticism from that kind of a source.

By Political Foreskin

January 31, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

Hannity + Rush = HUSH!

By jbmlaw

January 31, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

Dear PoFo @ 9:53, We’re knights of the Wooten Table, we dance whene’er we’re able. We do routines and chorus scenes with footwork impec-cable,

We dine well here in Camelot, we eat ham and jam and Spam a lot. / We’re knights of the Wooten Table, our shows are for-mi-dable. But many times we’re given rhymes that are quite un-sing-able,

We’re opera mad in Camelot, we sing from the diaphragm a lot. / In war we’re tough and able, Quite in-de-fa-ti-gable. Between our quests we sequin vests and impersonate Clark Gable / It’s a busy life in Camelot

And I expected you to at least acknowledge my “McCaine Mutiny” reference, although Glenn’s riff was better.

Dear Shar @ 11:22, I would not be so hard on the kids about voting “negatively.” Other than a couple of votes in the 1980s, I cannot remember casting a positive vote either. When we are talking about government empowerment, the best we can usually hope for is damage control.

By Shar

January 31, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Curious Observer @ 11:47 - Yup.

Jbmlaw@ 12:02 - Ni! I still think it would have been nice if the kids could have admired the rabbit for awhile before finding out it is, in fact, most often dynamite.

By Redneck Convert

January 31, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Well, I see Ralph Nader is asking for $300 donations so he can see about running for president.

That will seal it for the librul Democrats. Enough of them will vote for Nader to kill the libruls chances. Just like that bunch of dummies voted for Ross Perot.

Now if Bloomberg will run it will be a slam dunk for the godly Republicans. He will draw off any of the Democrats that have some sense. Nader will get the wild-eyed tree huggers and the people that hate Free Innerprize.

It don’t mean I like this librul McCain any better. Its just that I like a librul Republican better than a librul Democrat.

Yep, things is looking up.

By Aquagirl

January 31, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

JK, I dunno, but there sure were a lot of those things left on the tables. The desserts were obviously part of a vast Right-wing conspiracy.

Shar, everyone has heard Whitewater, etc. ad nauseum. There’s little new material for Hillary’s detractors to work with. If the candidate is McCain, you can bet we’ll see his remark over and over about staying in Iraq for a hundred years. That spectre should drive a lot of people to vote against him, the Democrats could run a baked potato and win.

Far out theory; Hillary has a base of support that’s invisible…single and pink collar women. I’m not an expert on polling. However, it would seem those are the people least likely to have time to answer a pollster’s questions or be noticed by mainstream media.

And Shar, sorry about your kids being young and cynical already. Holy cow.

By Clinton Brilliance

January 31, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

‘We Just Have to Slow Down Our Economy to Fight Global Warming’ - Slick Willie

Just when you think the Hill-Billies (get it?) have topped themselves in stupidity and comments, one or the other always finds a way to rais the bar. Hopefully some generous truth seeking soul out there will explain to Bubba that that is the reason why the US overwhelmingly told the Kyoto panel to go stick it where the global warming sunshine doesn’t shine. What an absolute moron! So, we will have layoffs by the tens of millions (not by the tens of thousands seen currently), soup lines on every corner, home foreclosures that make today look like a neighborhood garage sale, and complete failures of small, medium, and large companies, and other results of REAL catastrophic economic proportions. All of this, just for shutting down our economy based upon emotions and speculation than human activity is the reason the planet is going through a slight warming trend, as if it’s the first time this planet has ever warmed or something. How many idiots support these two clowns again?

By Political Foreskin

January 31, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

It’s Hillary, and the right knows it. There has a been a paradigm shift. I hate the word paradigm. “It’s a new paradigm”. Have you ever heard anyone suggest that? What they mean is that something that was inconceivable a few years ago is now hightly likely, that is, the pattern of thinking has changed, with all the old rules thrown out, (kinda like when Wooten tried to ban morons from his blog, but nobody ever blogged again, so he had to reverse the rule).

By time for the cold, very hard truth

January 31, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

I’m always mildly entertained by the no-illegal-is-too-many bedwetting crowd. And it’s not a terribly exclusive club this pus-filled crowd has formed either. The only requirement to gain admission is that you carry a host of long-forgotten diseases.

Can you say leprosy?

By cartman

January 31, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

Oh no! Now it’s patio and bar deck warming lamps that are contributing to global warming. http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSL3023881920080130?feedType=RSS&feedName=environmentNews&rpc=22&sp=true This is in Europe but how long before this stupidity comes to America? I’ll bet Al Gore already has his roostered eyebrows already on the case. What the hell. Let’s just all go live in caves like the Taliban. Better yet, let’s just all kill ourselves to save the planet. When we breathe we are contributing to global warming. What stupid sheep.

By Shar

January 31, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Aquagirl @ 12:51 - One always wishes that idealism would last a little longer than it actually does, and for these kids it seems to have been nipped off faster than usual. However, they’ve come of political age during the Bush Administration, and disillusionment was painfully inevitable. Reminds me of the effect that Watergate had on me.

By TAKFAH

January 31, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Times are hard PoFo…

Buddy, can you paradigm?

By getalife

January 31, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

The corporate media stopped covering Iraq so this is from the Asia Times:

“US soldiers are getting killed on a daily basis and so are Iraqi army and police officers. Infrastructure is destroyed. In a country that used to feed much of the Arab world, starvation is now the norm. It is ironic that Iraq was not half as bad during the 12 years of sanctions. Our liberation has pushed us into a state of unprecedented corruption.”

The surge is working!

By deegee

January 31, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

Unless you find a dead man or a live girl in bed with Hillary, I don’t think that there is much you can say to further detract from her. Older democrats will vote for her regardless of her negatives. They aren’t going to vote for a republican. Younger democrats may stay home. She is also vulnerable with independents. They may go for McCain, thereby making up for the deficit created when ultra right wing republicans protest McCain and stay home.

Does anyone want to speculate on who Hillary’s running mate will be if she wins the nomination? I mean the official running mate, not the unofficial one.

By Doug

January 31, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Even God can’t help bigots and xenophobes like you Susan. You and the other klan types in that right wing minority had your day. You screamed and screached. You waved the rebel flag. You thought you had carried the day. Yet when it was all said and done, true Republicans begin to speak with their ballots. Now you know where you and those of your ilk stand Susan. Crawl back under that rock where all you bottom feeding haters reside. Goodbye wingtrash. You’re outta here.

By profit

January 31, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

Very soon, the Arab world will have far more countries wanting to buy their oil, at any price, than they can deliver. They will have to pick and choose who to sell to. Have we made friends with the Arab world? I think not. So, in ten years, as you freeze in the winter, and bake in the summer, as you walk five miles to the grocery store and struggle to carry your rice and beans home, just remember: The neoncons choose to make the Arab world our enemy.

By ray

January 31, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

profit- if you lazy libs would quit the whining and get a job, you might not have to worry about it. the bush admin has turned my small fortune into a big one. they made it possible for those of us who work hard to get what is rightfully ours. we won’t have a problem getting energy when it becomes tight, it’ll be you goofballs who stood around waiting for a handout that are left out in the cold- as it should be.

By Shar

January 31, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

deegee@2:11 - An interesting thought. Bill Richardson, maybe? ‘Way outside guesses: Sam Nunn? Daniel Inouye? Jim Webb?

By profit

January 31, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

ok ray, I will bite: What kind of business are you in, and how did you turn a small fortune into a large fortune?

By Doug

January 31, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Ray…are you one of those Mortgage Brokers that made commissions off of making bad loans?

By JT

January 31, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

A vote for Romney is a vote for Hillary. I would never have believed that you right wing wackos supported the Hildebeast. You, Rush, and Hannity are all a bunch of moles planted in the Republican party for the sole purpose of creating its destruction from within. Well, you almost did it. But you know what they say. Close but no cigar. McCAIN IN 08!!

By Glenn

January 31, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

get,

The quote is a lie and so is your assertion that the “corporate” media, e.g. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NYT, AP, have “stopped covering Iraq”.

Dig your point, though, about how the Democratic Party is poised to make history soon, and possibly soon and then later also. A very good thing, yes.

PoFo,

It’s too bad about the pollution of the word “paradigm”. As a scientist you of course know that it describes something important that no other word does. It’s the Social Sciences—-Sociology in particular—-that mucked it up. And yeah, it’s Billary. Dammit. Funny wordplay you guys have had going today, BTW.

Yeah but jbm, yours holds priority. Thanks for putting me up there with Darwin, but like Wallace you were first. A vignette that you & PoFo would see into, I think, is the story of the last couple days of McCain’s and Kerry’s fact-finding tour of Vietnam. First McCain did what he’d come to do: he buried the hatchet and spoke highly of his worthy and honorable former adversaries and captors. Then, within 48 hours, he publicly stated that in his heart he’d always hate the little Slopes. Yep, the Queeg factor again.

By OneForTheRoad

January 31, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

Hillary and Barack want to call a press conference and announce a random event: Rumor has it that they may have decided to pick which of them will get the presidential versus vice-presidential candidate slots using two out of three wins in a) a toss of a coin or b) rock/paper/scissors.

Unfortunately, Hillary wants to use the coin toss with Bill supplying the coin and Barack wants to use real rocks and scissors. He said that he didn’t see a need for the paper option. The prospects look dim at the moment but Bill has been talking over the issues with former President Carter and he thinks they can still work things out. Former President Carter suggested that a good starting point would be for Barack to refer to Bill as Former President Clinton and for Bill and Hillary to concede that ,if elected, Barack would become America’s first black president.

By Jackie

January 31, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

@getalife,

You have to add to the conundrum of Iraq, 70% of the citizens of that country have no access to clean water and have less food and electricity than when Saddam was in power. To further that nightmare, the US military is concerned about the depleted uranium used in our tank shells causing problems. They have found 6 year-old girls with cervical cancer. Our returning soldiers are experiencing problems with unknown illnesses and children born with deformities.

@Glenn, Sen. Richard Burr(R-NC) has offered a provision to the current law wherein he would offer stipends to vets with illness of $11,000 if they would agree to not file with the VA AND go to therapy. He realizes the therapy causes considerable financial hardship, therefore, he would give them an immediate $2,000 bonus with $3,000 offered each subsequent quarter, up to a year, for staying in therapy. This is done to insure the troops go to therapy and with VA facilities being in areas where most folks have to travel, it helps them financially and smooths out their may not being employed.

By Glenn

January 31, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

The debates this go ‘round have been unusually worthwhile and even entertaining. That may be due in part to Jim’s doing such a good job of furnishing us with more vivid understandings of the various candidacies.

Whatever the cause for this heightened pleasure in the debates, be it XTC or Jim or you all, last night’s debate was some seriously good clean fun; and, more importantly, for my money it was the most revealing debate so far.

First of all, it was an honest to goodness debate. CNN took such a drubbing over its smarta$$ postmod Deconstruction-of-Debate-in-a-Democracy rigged game shows that this time it didn’t dare do anything other than sit the men down abreast like a discussion panel and throw red meat onto the table in front of them. In short, a debate. (Funny how long it took the Corrupt News Network to figure out what the word means.)

Second, the storyline of the debate was that McCain was supposed to give Romney a shellacking. So they set up McCain and then, in the words of Mr. Clemens, watched the effects from the roof of the henhouse. Instead of shellacking Romney, though, McCain did the opposite: he peeled the paint off the Salt Lake Scientologist.

The result: bare wood. Only Romney for once wasn’t wooden, he was Romney. Because McCain had angered him by impugning his honor, we got to see the real Romney, the guy you might expect to see were you, say, to insult his family, or accuse him of white collar crime in his business dealings. He defended himself against Commander McCain very ably, in every sense denoted by the word “ably”.

Jim has described in today’s column what they were scrapping over. It was McCain’s lying about Romney’s lying about timetables for Iraq withdrawal. Romney was as incensed as a perfect gentleman can get on national television. I found myself liking him for the first time since I fancied his so-square-it’s-cool Andy Williams look at the Olympics, with the white turtleneck and the v-neck sweater and midwinter tan.

Wished I could look that good, I did. Made me think of Claudine and Spider and Rudd and Andy, and Ted and Alice. Them were the good old days.

By Joe D

January 31, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

Well, Arnie has endorsed McCain, and next it will be Saxby and Johnny, the GA twins. It’s all over but the shouting.

By deegee

January 31, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

If Hillary could get Bill Richardson on the ticket with her I would be surprised. I think Bill Richardson is a decent man that would prefer to work in the Cabinet than pose for photo ops with Hill. I really can’t think of any seasoned politician that would want to risk getting the cooties from Hillary. I think she is going to have to get someone relatively unknown, without much to lose, that has the same sort of pure political ambition that she has. It can’t be anyone that will outshine her, and it can’t be anyone that will out Hillary her.

By Glenn

January 31, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

deegee,

I like Bill Richardson, I do. My friends in NM say he’s been a very good Guv, and they’re all over the map otherwise. Also, he and Panetta were the House Dem Caucus’ point diplomats, meaning the ones trusted by the other side of the aisle to broker deals. He was and is able. As UN Ambassador he sucked up to an anti-American UN administration, though, and as Secretary of Energy his record of failure is just downright scary. (Bear in mind that he was Administrator of the Energy Labs.) So, um…

Still, who wouldn’t want to join that Yuppie Vato for a backyard barbeque and political chat?

By profit

January 31, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

deegee, Bill richardson is a short fat man, all of whom have a Napolean complex, and should never, ever be trusted. What exactly is his claim to fame anyway, Energy Secretary? What does he know about energy? Guv of New Mexico? Big deal…

By Disgusted

January 31, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

…is a short fat man, all of whom have a Napolean complex, and should never, ever be trusted.

Well, I never!!! Tall male pig!

By Lily Toad

January 31, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Richardson would make a great Secretary of State with his diplomatic skils.

By Lily Toad

January 31, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Richardson would make a great Secretary of State with his diplomatic skils.

By deegee

January 31, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

Bill Richardson certainly has made some remarkable progress in State politics. His experience as a negotiator undoubtedly has helped him become a successful governor. I am sure that he does a fair amount of sucking up to his rivals in order to get what he ultimately wants. As far as US energy secretary goes, isn’t that kind of like being the guardian of the social security lock box?

By Brad

January 31, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

It is interesting how no Democrat candidate is talking about Iraq much. I therefore conclude that there can only be one of two reasons why: the surge is working, or we are already pulling out in mass as the Democrats have wanted us to do for over three years now. So, if the latter isn’t the case (and it isn’t), then the former must be. Therefore, if the surge is working, then violence must be down (it is - facts, unlike liberal Democrats, don’t fib to make a point). Need more proof? Check out Hillary’s comments about the surge and why it is just now working and why that means we should now start getting out. Yes, these people are for real. The gall. Of course, the media gives her a pass, so not as not to “attack” her. What backbone. What courage under fire Hillary has shown. What convictions. What fortitude. What leadership in tough decision making times. Please.

Regardless, only leftist wing nuts on this blog are still talking about Iraq as lost, because as sure as a $20 bill given to a homeless drunk turns to booze, their politicians sure aren’t. Yes, the surge must be working now.

By TAKFAH

January 31, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

Brad,

If you might take a moment to pull that Bill O’Reilly Brand Vibrator out of your well-worn poop chute for just a minute, take note of this:

Conservative nutjobs like yourself are properly referred to as “wingnuts”. For pansy-a$ses liberals, you need to use the Malkin-approved moniker “moonbats”. Get it straight.

Honestly, even if you were not a half-witted knuckle dragging sh!t-for-brains cr@p slinger, nobody could take you seriously if you can’t even make that proper distinction.

Now, if you have learned a lesson, you can shove that plastic tube back up there. Sorry to interrupt your moment of bliss.

By Jackie

January 31, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

@Brad,

The surge is “working” because the USA has chosen to pay off the Sunnis in Anbar and ignore the Madr Army in Baghdad and the South. Secondly, the number of troops will probably remain at the current level and the professional military has said if we do not give those ground troops some relief by spring, the Army and Marines will be broken. The “surge” is only a momentary respite from the violence. Dubya has stated he will make a unilateral “agreement with our Iraqi allies” to maintain our troops in that country for as long as they are needed, regardless of the cost. The surge concept is a farce.

By Dusty

January 31, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

Brad@4:54

But of course, Democrats are not talking about Iraq or the sucessful surge.

Obama did NOT vote for the war in Iraq.

Hillary voted for the war and now has decided she is against it.

Most Americans do not like anti-war citizens and others who will not fight when their country calls.

They do not like liars or flip-floppers.

The Democrats know all that and do not mention the facts about themselves that Americans do not like.

Watch the spin if you ask them if they really support our troops while being against the action in Iraq. It makes them nervous. It should.

By Political Foreskin

January 31, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

Like I said, Wooten reversed the rule.

By profit

January 31, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

I stand by my observations regarding short fat men, but let me expand those observations to include big mouthed, short, fat women, all of whom are non-productive burdens on us tall men.

By Dusty

January 31, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

Brad,

You have two fine examples of what I was talking about: TAKFAH & Jackie. Thanks, fellows, for giving us the fine examples of Democratic “loyalty”.

First the insulting name-caller “K” and then the rattled brain conspirator, Jackie. There they are. Liberals on a roll.

By Jackie

January 31, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

@Dusty,

I was wondering when you would get back to having diarrhea of the lip! As usual, “talking loud and saying nothing.”

By Jackie

January 31, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

@Dusty,

You always talk about someone not fighting in the times their country needs them. Let’s see; the age for enlistment is now 42 years of age and you have skills that are needed in the military. Have you signed-up, dipstick?

By Political Foreskin

January 31, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

Go Dusty, you ro-ock.

I agree with Profit. Let every man hear the word: Never talk to fat chicks. Under no circumstances are you to hear their voice and let them get inside your head. Natural selection will take over and all women will look like angelina jolie or natalie wood, or jill st john, man. If you’re an islamic person, , then dont talk to fatwah chicks, or fatah chicks, okay? Maybe through this common bond we can finally achieve a breakthrough to a bimbo-inspired peace never before possible. If there’s nothing but babes everywhere, why fight about anything? We’ll be too busy to fight. We’re lovers not fighters. Take my hand, Ahkmed, I am your spring-break guide. Enjoy a wet t-shirt contest. Join the dark beer force. Take my hand, Ahkmed. Join the darkbeer force.

By Wen Ho Lee

January 31, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this

No, actually, being Secretary of Energy is more like being Steward of the world’s nuclear stockpile, and Boss of the physicists who develop the most advanced weapons systems for the U.S., and Manager of the engineers who package the physics and wed science to delivery systems, and Advocate and Sponsor of the government’s search for alternative energy sources, and Adjutant General, Implementation, of the nation’s efforts in Environmental Science, and just plain Tzar of U.S. public sector R&D. So it’s a little more than being guardian of the Social Security lockbox.

By TAKFAH

January 31, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Your turn. Wipe the Vaseline off your gnarled fingers and pull up your knickers so you can learn something. You’re drilling a dry hole anyway, so give it up.

Your withered wit gave us this: “Most Americans do not like anti-war citizens…”

Most Americans, by every poll taken feel the war in Iraq was a mistake, and disapprove of the way it was run. You keep telling us about what “most Americans” think and want as though you were a bellweather of some sort. And if by “most Americans” you mean the collection of chattering demons that rattle around in your head, you might be right. But the rest of us beg to differ.

But keep on parroting your talking points. You are amusing if nothing else.

I also loved the way you smoothly went from fell@ting Rudy to tickling McCain’s withered pecker. Nice segue, I’m sure nobody noticed. And if McCain begins to show the world his batsh!t bonkers side and the GOP ends up having to embrace the Mormon, I’ll be looking for you to join in a heap of Mitt loving without a blink.

You’re a Good German, Dusty. Now lube up and try again.

By Susan

February 1, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

McCain and his insurance policy:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/31/AR2008013103921_pf.html

By Glenn

February 1, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

OK, so I’m checking out Rodney Ho’s blog on the Newnan woman being on the Bachelorette TV show. I, being a former ink stained wretch, notice he spelled Realtor with a small r, which is incorrect. I made an admittedly smart aleck post pointing out the minor error and two – count em – two other readers really rip into me for it. In the words of our dear, wonderful, cheeky friend getalife – geez.

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