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Big Government? It’s time to wean Americans of dependency

Whether the limited-government party of Ronald Reagan can win the White House or whether its chances would be improved by reinventing conservatism, is a subtext of a long primary season which is yet to establish a clear Republican front-runner.

Throughout the administration of President Bush, the party has wrestled with accommodation with Big Government. That dilemma will persist for decades to come.

After the initial success of former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, American Enterprise Institute scholar Henry Olsen and others questioned whether Republicans were tempted to invent themselves as a pro-faith, pro-government party akin to Europe’s Christian Democrats.

“Christian Democrat parties have always distinguished themselves from liberals and socialists,” he wrote in The Wall Street Journal, “favoring private property and traditional values while supporting government regulation and taxation to ameliorate what they perceive to be capitalism’s defects.”

Whether the model is perceived as European or as Democrat-light, it is increasingly clear that a limited-government party that exercises fiscal discipline is a tough sell — no reason to give up, but a reason to keep focused on the end game.

The reasons for the tough sell are many. Workers who feel threatened by global competition, those with whom Huckabee connected, want a government that will protect them and their jobs. Baby boomers who’ve now begun to retire will be an aggressive constituency for expanded benefits. The federal government was projected to spend about a fifth of the nation’s economic output, $2.7 trillion, in 2007. Of that, about 45 percent went to support Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

A cultural trend does not bode well, either. Children increasingly are being brought into the world without a mother and father in the home. Some 70 percent of black children, almost half of Hispanics and a quarter of whites are born to unwed women. For poor families, the government has become the father and husband.

Illegal immigration increases the demand for government, too. An analysis last year by Robert E. Rector and Christine Kim for the conservative Heritage Foundation found that “at least 50 percent, and perhaps 60 percent of illegal immigrant adults lack a high school degree.” Low skills equals high poverty — meaning that immigrant households, legal and illegal, need far more in services than their taxes support.

The point is that claimants grow while the tax base shrinks. A worrisome disconnect exists between those who pay for government and those who demand its services.

The Washington-based Tax Foundation found that in 2005, Americans filed 134.4 million tax returns, with 90.6 million paying something — meaning that 44 million filers paid nothing or got a check from Uncle Sam.

That’s 32.6 percent of those who filed returns. In 1988, at the end of Reagan’s second term, that percentage was 20.6 percent.

“Personal income” is not just salaries and investments. It also includes benefits, such as medical insurance and employer contributions to retirement plans.

The top 50 percent of taxpayers pay 97 percent of the individual income taxes.

The argument here is not tax policy, but simply to note that the base is narrowing while dependency grows.

Trends favor Democrats. A party that offers smaller government appeals to Reaganites, but it cannot sustain a majority by making grand efforts to whittle away at programs, only to see Democrats restored to power on the power to expand them.

The trick is to wean dependency by offering alternatives that build self-reliance. Health savings accounts. Retirement savings accounts. Promoting private-sector alternatives and competition in health care, transportation and other services. The GOP has to come up with a viable alternative for security conscious individuals who have grown dependent on the mailman. But first it has to get into position to do that.

It’s easy to look at the current field of presidential contenders and want for more — more in the sense of a Reagan clone. Conservatives have to be willing to accept that the nominee most likely to win the White House won’t be the one who tells the country to suck it up and go. John McCain told Michigan voters that about their factory jobs — and got waylaid in the primary. This is not a suck-it-up-and-go country anymore.

It’s a country comfortable with big interventionist government, one financed by somebody else. That can be changed. But it will take time.

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By Luckoduh

January 26, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

Check out the Urinal’s version of the fall of the Soviet Union:

{{{{Wall comes tumbling down: Hamas razes more sections of Gaza border-Urinal}}}}

After decades of having the limits of their destruction boxed in, being only able to kill and maim innocent people inside the walls and as far as their rockets would fly, finally, at last, freedom to move around the Middle East and kill lots of new and different people, oh what a joyous day!!

Uh, which way to the Jews?

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{{{{Study: Pill offers cancer protection: Contraceptive can lower ovarian risk-Urinal}}}}

Believe me, I know that the perverts at the Urinal are rerunning old news to try and get some more women to take the pill, thus increasing the likelihood that the wormy pathetic lib can get “some,” but you need to be careful, and I wonder why the Atlanta Journal Constitution trys to downplay these risks?:

{{{{There has been some research indicating that using the pill increases the risk of cancer of the cervix…A large study, combining most of the studies carried out worldwide into use of oral contraceptives and risk of breast cancer, showed that women currently using the pill have a slight but significant increase in breast cancer risk….Some studies have shown that women have an increased risk of thryoid cancer when they are taking the pill.}}}}

What kind of sick mofo would put woman at risk just so they can achieve some sicko agenda?

And practicing medicine without a license?

And when are you going to have a long, blown up article about this, AJC?:

{{{{Scientists have turned an ordinary skin cell into what appears to be an embryonic stem cell.}}}}

Freaks.

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I give it to you exactly as the Urinal print it:

{{{{More troops rushed to counter al-Qaida- Shaken by two days of deadly bombings, Iraq’s government said it would dispatch several thousand more security forces to the northern city of Mosul in a “decisive” bid to drive al-Qaida in Iraq from its last major stronghold.}}}}

I thought Iraq didn’t have an army? And check it out, some scumbag chicken crap cave dweller brain washes two or three losers into blowing themselves up among innocent women and children, and the Urinal sees this as the second coming of Sherman’s Union Army.

Nothing gets you harder than a good suicide bombing or two, eh, AJC?

Trust me, I will keep you all updated on exactly who it is that winds up being “shaken.”

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Oh look, the Urinal finally found room on the front page of their POS “news” paper to tell us about the deeds of our brave soldiers, who they obviously “support:”

{{{{Army Rangers snared in sting-Three U.S. Army Rangers and another soldier were charged Friday with drug conspiracy after agreeing to an undercover scheme that involved the armed robbery of purported cocaine traffickers.-Whiny Times}}}}

First drug deal in the history of the United States, apparently.

GFY for getting the scoop, AJC.

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Behold all of the wormy little things the Urinal does to try and influence an election:

A photo on page A10 of the Urinal shows Ku Klux Klintoon with several smiling…….black children.

Gee, I wonder what subliminal message this picture is trying to convey?

It’s worth looking at, the Urinal never links to their blatant election pornaganda, so you’ll have to buy the litter box liner.

But KKKlinton, complete with her gruesome overbite jutting out of her maw, appears to be happy enough with the black kids to eat them.

I wonder how long she washed after leaving that scene?

{{{{Just when you thought politics couldn’t get any stranger: AJC political reporter Aaron Gould Sheinin and Political Insider columnist Jim Galloway broke the story on Wednesday’s front page about the man behind an automated phone call criticizing Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) for backing Hillary Clinton for president.-Angela Tuck, Urinal}}}}

Yes, it couldn’t get any “stranger,” could it?

{{{{Automated Phone Call Emphasizes Middle Name Hussein….Democrat Barack Obama has been the subject of rumors that he is secretly a Muslim.}}}}

John Lewis is a Klinton hack and toady. Who could possibly even care that he getting autocalls against him for supporting KKlinton? Did he set this up?

{{{{John Garst, the man behind the call, initially declined to discuss it but eventually admitted to making the call simply because he dislikes Lewis.}}}}

KKKlinton gets busted in SC for auto calls smearing Obama as a Muslim, one day later, the lib press “catches” a guy “criticizing” KKKlintoon in an “auto call” and breaks the “story” all through their wormy pages. 1) This diffuses the auto call scandal because “both sides” are “doing it,” 2) Your average dimwit liberal sees this fake scandal, wholly created by the Ku Klux Kampaign and associate “auto calls” with this “quack” who is “hounding” Lewis.

Depraved, isn’t it?

And of course, free Kampaign ads for the libs favorite “Republican:”

{{{{Countdown 2008: ROAD TO THE WHITE HOUSE: McCain, an Iraq hawk, gets anti-war votes. Republican doves respect his principles even as they reject his stance.}}}}

When a fully committed Code Pinko mouthpiece like the Urinal goes to singing sweet songs about a Repug, don’t you think, just maybe, he might be a pinko too?

{{{{Bill KKKlinton: John McCain and Shrillary are ‘very close’}}}}

Bwa.

By Oiling the squeeking unhinged

January 26, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

Pallette cleanse

By Oiling the squeeking unhinged

January 26, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

Pallette cleanse

By Oiling the squeeking unhinged

January 26, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

Pallette cleanse

By Oiling the squeeking unhinged

January 26, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

Pallette cleanse

By Oiling the squeeking unhinged

January 26, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

Pallette cleanse

By Oiling the squeeking unhinged

January 26, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

Pallette cleanse

By Luckoduh

January 26, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

Doesn’t it tell you something that so few people take “pride” in Atlanta that any group can come along and hijack the “name” and no one notices:

{{{{Atlanta Pride upset with city over relocation-Urinal}}}}

Do tell Atlantans, is there a “Falcon’s Pride” group and, if so, what exactly does it stand for?

And why is the Urinal so ashamed to use the word “gay?”

By Bored

January 26, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

What is pallette cleanse?

By Oiling the squeeking unhinged

January 26, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

Now you listen, mister, pallette cleanse is flushing the duhng. (the squeeking unhinged)

By Redneck Convert

January 26, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

Well, I guess about the only thing we can do about big guvmint is to bring in jbmlaw’s Old Folks Army. Just round up all the people on Social Security and Medicare and give them weapons that don’t weigh much and put some shuffleboard courts on the army bases and lots of movie places and bingo rooms. Anyway, if we are going to be in Iraq for the next 100 years or so like McCain says we will need all the troops we can get. Besides, My President is about to make a treaty with the Iraq guvmint to stay a few more years so the librul Democrats will be stuck with staying if they win the next election.

I just hate having to pay taxes to support somebody else. Far as I’m concerned, this is a jungle and its every man and woman for hisself. That’s why we need to get rid of all the gun control laws. You need to perteck what’s yours, and if it takes a couple machine guns and a anti-tank gun to do it, like I have, well, that’s what you got to have. I’m for all my 2nd Amendment rights.

So when all these old coots are in the army we can get rid of Social Security and Medicare. If God had of wanted you to be on your own , you would of been borned with a big bank account. I reckon them that’s in wheel chairs and can’t serve can just move in with their young folks. Anyway, the onliest thing the federal guvmint should do is to perteck us from furriners, like jbmlaw says. Us workers need to be able to bring home every penny we make except a little to go to paying for the army. We can just sell off the parks and turn the highways into toll roads and get rid of food inspeckters and such. You don’t need food inspeckters. If a few people get poisoned, the rest of us will know not to eat the food they did.

Anyhow, I never thought I would live to see the day when SC would vote for one of Those People for president, but that’s what will happen today. It just goes to show what happens when the federal guvmint gets involved in things. If we had our way and it wasn’t for the federal guvmint, we could go back to the old days when we knew how to keep Those People in their place. I’m just disgusted with the way things are.

I don’t see no snow or ice like the weather people said would come. They lie as bad as the AJC. Bunch of libruls.

Have a good day everybody. And be polite to Sister Dusty. A baby that’s been dropped on her head grows up not thinking too straight. Leastwise you know her heart is Right.

By Luckoduh

January 26, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

Uh, duh:

{{{{Is the right right on the KKKlintons?}}}}

{{{{Something strange happened the other day. All these different people — friends, co-workers, relatives, people on a liberal e-mail list I read — kept saying the same thing: They’ve suddenly developed a disdain for Bill and Hillary Klinton. Maybe this is just a coincidence, but I think we’ve reached an irrevocable turning point in liberal opinion of the Ku Klux Klintons.}}}}

{{{{Going into the campaign, most of us liked Hillary Clinton just fine, but the fact that tens of millions of Americans are seized with irrational loathing for her suggested that she might not be a good Democratic nominee. But now that loathing seems a lot less irrational. We’re not frothing Clinton haters like … well, name pretty much any conservative. We just really wish they’d go away.}}}}

Bwa.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

Yeah, Luckoduh, it’s gotten so bad that it’s past outrageous and deep into the Funny Zone that the DNC-AJC still cops the pose of objectivity, as though it were ever so masterfully subtle as to push its agenda without readers seeing in black and white what the editors are on about.

The paper’s about two paces this side of Newsweek’s grave. Newsweek’s pallbearers were a bunch of Columbia-trained libs-from-Central-Casting cocksure that their particular worldview was Truth. The last laugh is that by surrendering a once proud organ of Ideology Unawares to the forces of Ideology with a Vengeance, the editors kissed off half their potential readership.

One of the vulnerabilities of cornpone liberals is their contempt for fiduciary responsibility, for which, never having had any, they have nothing but contempt. Too late now to explain to the publisher and shareholders that the thing to do was to turn the magazine into an instrument of the most unimaginative propaganda, thereby alienating half its potential and erstwhile readers. Duh.

Earlier this week, as he was complaining about the dearth of actual reporting on the mysterious Barak Obama, I mentioned my theory that the ladies and gentlemen of the American Fourth Estate partied their way through J-school. His response: as best he can tell, journalism no longer exists in the United States.

He’s a staunch, deep-pockets Democrat.

By Oiling the squeeking unhinged

January 26, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

Check out the AJC’s page one punfest about the coach, the principle, and the porn. Double entendres fly off the page: a mayor’s text messages to his aide proves he’s more interested “in her structure than infrastructure”. (there’s a syllabic rhythm too!)

Yes, that would take two writers, working together for hours, rewriting, re-editing, (and let’s order chinese and work late). So they’re sitting at their computers in an empty office, working side by side, man and woman, and all of a sudden they both get wanton over the won ton, (why not, their computers are right there). Oh, this is writing itself, somebody stop me, I’m out of control.

Technological advances have always put folks in trouble. The 19th century daguerreotypes were all first used for porn. (Want to see a picture of your swarthy immigrant fish-wife, sir)? The first xerox machines were used soley to copy buttocks until congress finally acted. Then the laser printer proved itself by copying life sized (one inch equals one inch) replicas of male exaggeration. Dont forget how katie courek mooned america from the inside out with the very latest sigmoidoscope. And now, we can store mp3 holographs of people performing the entire 12th chapter of the kama sutra on our hard drives. I know one disparate housewife who has downloaded her twinkie on a GPS in her car. You know, just in case.

Because that’s what we are: perpetual fifth graders who are just now coming to terms with our genitalia, (and we have the giggling journalist at the AJC to prove it).

By Artie Sammish

January 26, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

OK, I admit, I’m a self-hating venal person. Can’t seem to help it. I hate venality. Even in myself. I don’t think that qualifies as “irrational loathing”. Seems rational to me, even for a guy who can’t stop being venal.

So I don’t like venal people, so what? It takes one to know one. I think Hillary Clinton (what happened to her Rodham?) is a venal person. Lots of people agree with me. And even if they didn’t, I still wouldn’t like her, because she’s venal. How does my not liking The Politician Formerly Known As Hillary Rodham Clinton make me irrational?

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. Great arguments Luckoduh, I look forward to Saturday mornings for your pointed analysis.

Our leftist friends will ignore Jim’s essay this morning, as it is really a closed message to “his side,” captured in the phrase, “democrat light.”

We highlighted Peggy Noonan’s essay yesterday, and Drudge has now linked to it. Jim adds a dimension, asking whether the “conservative compassion” that broke the Reagan coalition was a political necessity.

For years I have mocked the democrats for their consistent post-election denial ritual: they eat their dead, and proclaim that it was the vessel and not the flawed message. So with trepidation, I now assert the same for republicans: conservatism - tough love, in the current idiom - can be sold, but requires the right messenger. My guy Fred was such a messenger, but never could get his voice heard over the bumper-sticker pandering and the straight-abusive talk and the Gantryisms that filled the debates.

So where do we go? Reaganism is a non-factor for this election. We will not be advancing the agenda. The best we can hope for is a holding action, keeping the socialists away, maybe getting some conservatives appointed to the judiciary.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

That’s very interesting about the tendency of a certain GOP wing to emulate Europe’s Christian Democrats, the Old World excuse for a conservative party (notwithstanding Britain’s Tories). It’s not so farfetched when one considers that the DNC made a conscious decision to emulate Europe’s Green Party. But even as mere analog, the Xian Dem alignment works in the Huckabee context, because he’s as much a sham Christian and pseudo-conservative as the Xian Dems are.

He’s incapable of translating Christianity into other than liberal terms—-a wholly legitimate interpretation, by the way, unless it’s limited to our immediately current and very earthly conceptions of liberalism—-and really ought to be running as a Democrat (with a “D” next to his name, he’d be much like Jimmah).

All of which is to say, that were he running in Europe they’d construe him as a Christian Democrat.

By catlady

January 26, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

Of that, about 45 percent went to support Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

What percentage of that was money that the government had “borrowed” from Social Security and now has to pay back?

What percentage goes to the military?

Throughout the administration of President Bush, the party has wrestled with accommodation with Big Government.

I would say it is “accomodation” (what a polite euphemism) with Big Business.

44 million filers paid nothing

How many of these were part-time workers, either voluntarily (teenagers, the retired) or involuntarily (the under-employed)?

What percentage were those wealthy with smart accountants and unlimited write-offs?

The GOP has to come up with a viable alternative for security conscious individuals who have grown dependent on the mailman

Such as the wealthy and middle-class, with their tax write-offs like mortgage interest. It is not just the AFDC recepients that are feeding at the trough.

Promoting private-sector alternatives and competition in health care, transportation and other services.

When it is something that is necessary, all that “private-sector alternatives” do is enrich the stockholders of those businesses. For example, if we turn over providing water to the private sector, what we see is water prices going through the roof because everyone needs water.

The trick is to wean dependency by offering alternatives that build self-reliance.

True if applied to EVERYONE (see above).

Health savings accounts. Retirement savings accounts.

All well and good if every cent you make is not taken by housing, heating, transportation, food, and medicine. There has got to be money available to put in these accounts.

It’s a country comfortable with big interventionist government, one financed by somebody else. That can be changed. But it will take time

Unfortunately, the last 8 years under Bush have done 50 years’ worth of damage.

Bring on leaders who can look at the big picture and not kow-tow to one group or another.

By OneForTheRoad

January 26, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Weaning you say — as in taking away the breast milk. By the way, who is this big mama anyway. Do we need to start with weaning big government off its insatiable appetite for tax dollars. How many people have gone down to their city or county courthouse and just looked around at all of their dependents. You don’t get a tax deduction for a single one of them. You do get to pay their bills, pay for their vacations and sick days, pay for their health insurance and dental insurance. When you ask them for help and they give you a look like, well you know, and some smartass response, don’t try to say something like I pay your salary. They don’t understand. Why? Because they have always been fed breast milk from big mama and weaning is going to be a real chore. Too bad our teachers can’t get that point across to our future leaders. If they could, it may make their dependencies more palatable. And, don’t even get me started on our “elected” officials. I don’t have such nice things to say about them.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

jbm,

That’s a superb analysis, your 9:22.

From here? The Democrats should embrace their name and their heritage with a bear hug; their answer: More Democracy. They should drop der grunschtick down to a plank, and leave the country as a whole to work out our evironmental platform, as we’re doing (again) apace. The Republicans should lead the way in showing how to do more with less; privatization is only one means of so showing, and I happen to think, in spite of your spirited defense of it, that it must be thoughtfully delimited.

I don’t want to give up on “compassionate conservatism”. Peggy is saying, in her customarily lovely and moving, if somewhat cloying, terms, what has been said of the GOP, if memory serves, for at least the past three years. Sure, everyone past twenty-something realizes that the phrase was a mere slogan, but it’s out there, and like Noonan I choose slogans upon which to build castles.

When we show how to get better food to those who need it, to provide more effective conditions in which the illiterate can earn valuable learning, to care for the permanently weakened members of our society, to fulfill our debts of honor and care for our veterans and serving personnel—-when we do all of this, and stimulate our economy by doing it with significantly fewer resources, then we will have regained the soul of the GOP. And, yes, we will be the compassionate conservatives even Peggy has concluded we never should have been.

This is a very tall order, but Democrats don’t even know how to think in these terms, much less implement these ideas. The GOP may have lost its way, and it may even be about to hang its head again, but it’s never too late for us to do the difficult thing: to walk our talk.

By Dusty

January 26, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Now Jim Wooten & jbmlaw,

CUT IT OUT!! We’ve still got a chance. I refuse to give in to socialism, anti-war, food stamps, and every other support system that even designates much of the middle class as “poverty”.

I refuse to give into the “hate” system that liberals have built for the USA. Do not join them in their moaning and groaning (and now fussing & fighting). If we are true to our values, then no one can beat us, the conservatives.

If you are sad over Republican choices, think again. Right now, I believe Guiliani is out best bet because he cleared the air in NYC and that was a miracle. He likes women and marries them but…if we can elect a Bill Clinton and his girlfriends he didn’t marry, that issue is kaput. The rest of the GOPers are either too close to liberal or should be preaching and not governing.

Now, thanks to Luckoduh for giving us a review of our local well of liberal libation, the AJC. He doesn’t miss even one twist of their leftist leanings. Even Jim Wooten cannot overcome a whole system. But I am glad he tries.

By @@

January 26, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Whoa is me, and all other women Jim.

We’ve been duped into accepting a “father” who is working overtime and spread too thin? If that’s not bad enough, we’ve burdened our daughters with other people’s sons who will lack incentive to do any better.

Boys to men, raised by Super Nannies.

Not to worry though….we’ve got a woman running for President—a woman who turned a blind eye to her husband’s marital indiscretions but still needs his shoulder to cry on in her pursuit of power.

Yesiree…We’ve come a long way baby or at least that’s what the political power brokers (Hillary) would have us believe.

We’ve been had girls! by the He said She said politicians but Hey….”I feel your pain.”

In spite of it all I’m good—I’ve got my 401K and Health Savings account, and a good man who really cares. Wise choices make all the difference.

I’m no government’s fool. I kicked that guy to the curb long ago.

By Luckoduh

January 26, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

{{{{By jbmlaw January 26, 2008 9:22 AM So where do we go? Reaganism is a non-factor for this election. We will not be advancing the agenda. The best we can hope for is a holding action, keeping the socialists away, maybe getting some conservatives appointed to the judiciary.}}}}

jbmlaw: I wouldn’t be so quick to throw dirt on the “movement,” after all, the choice so far has been made by the “independent” voters of several liberal states, let’s just see how this all shakes out when the real Conservatives get their say.

Not to mention the fact that we are letting the pinko press set our agenda for us; they harp on and on about McCain for a reason (how many people know that Romney is leading the vote and delegate count?) and the democrat media carry on an open discussion among liberals about the state of Conservatism.

We’ll be fine.

Think back to how many Republican dimwits tried to shove amnesty down our throats, including McPinko, that was real successful, wasn’t it?

I wonder what changed their minds?

And how about Iraq, the libs had a “mandate” from the 06 elections to bring our troops home and hand al Qaeda a huge victory, instead, we, Conservatism, got a troop increase and have set in motion al Qaeda’s defeat, giving us a long term strategic and financial ally in an area of the world that once was thought to be hopeless.

It’s not like liberals are the smartest people in the freaking world either, these bozos created “diversity” and “political correctness” and are now currently involved in a large scale race riot because of these same ridiculous rules. Make note how things that We the People are forced to comply with, the liberals themselves just ignore.

And remember, there is a reason that al-Gore lost the 2000 election to Bushie, the same Bushie that babbled on about “compassionate Conservatism” and later desecrated the memory of three thousand murder victims by praising the “religion” of “peace,” al-Gore lost because America knew what a loser Klinton was and wanted to turn the country away from the petty, shallow, depraved power lust.

And here the dimwits democrats are, dragging their party right back into the sleaze, the hate, the racism, right back to where they are the most comfortable being, like the rest of us don’t notice these things.

You reckon we’ll be pointing this out during the long summer election campaign?

Who ever pulls off the Repug nomination is going to need Conservatives, not just to win the general election but also to continue funding the Republican Party.

Do you realize how much money they’ve lost because of some of the stupid ideas Bushie and McCain have come up with the last several years?

They’ll figure it out soon enough.

And fall back in line.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

Yes, Viscosisis,

It seems to have occurred somewhere around 1975, that odd little sociological phenomenon in which punning became the only arrow in the copy editor’s quiver. My guess is that that was the year after the University of Missouri introduced its first Headline Composition class, led no doubt by an impressively bored tweedhead.

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Dear Glenn @ 9:57, you are correct in the foundation role of “slogans” which in current corporate-speak is the “mission statement.” I regretfully note the absence of any cogent mission statement among our candidates (including my guy.) You correctly note our differences on the role of government, minor differences compared to the vision of the other side.

Like you and our focused-friend Dusty I am coming around to the view that Rudy, among our three champions remaining, is most likely to prevent the advance of leftism. He will appoint conservative judges. I think Mitt would, if he knew what one looked like. I would like to think that McCain (as I read in someone’s analysis yesterday) is returning to his 1980s roots as a conservative southwest senator, but I have no basis for trust in that belief.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

@@,

Yep. (Or perhaps I should say, Yup.) That’s quite trenchant, your “boys to men, raised by Super Nannies.” It also covers approximately half the career of Dr. Margaret Mead. (Who, incidentally, was given to predating sexually upon such men, some of whom she married from time to time.)

Probably it’s significant, too, that the Super Nannies are themselves male constructs; and, specifically, usurpations. My late mentor called this “radical uterus envy, institutionalized”.

God only knows what the copy editors would make of that rather astute remark.

By getalife

January 26, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

If Jim thinks electing another gop will change anything, he has totally lost his mind and should check in the old folks home with McCain.

“Last night in the Republican debate Tim Russert asked John McCain about a statement he’d made:

“I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated.”

McCain pretended he’d never said any such thing:

“I don’t know where you got that quote from, I’m very well versed in economics.”

Another liar, ignorant on the economy, advised by neocons, stay the course in Iraq and bomb Iran to start WWIII.

How in the hell is that change Jim?

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

Dear Luckoduh @ 10:17, I am cautiously optimistic that you are correct about the self-loathing nature of democrats, that there is no circumstance so sure that they cannot find a way to lose.

By Disgusted

January 26, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

All this moaning by the conservatives about big government reminds me of a boss I once had.

This staunch conservative fired people regularly and claimed he was doing his Christian duty in doing so, for such people must be miserable in working for him and they would be much happier if they were cut loose. By reaching out to help them make the difficult decision to leave his employ, he was helping them improve their lives.

The pious Pecksniffian maunderings of jbmlaw and Glenn bring memories of this hypocritical sub-human. “Compassionate conservative” indeed! About the only compassion a conservative has is for his own wallet.

By Oiling the squeeking unhinged

January 26, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

Nobody’s ignoring Wooten’s message, jbmlaw, it just that he takes 1500 words to say what I can say in 25 words or less, and that p’s me off. You read Luckoduh? From duhng’s p-hole to your mouth, then. Pallette cleanse. Easily amused much?

Wooten translated: Taxes stunt growth. Entitlements stunt productivity, but most of all….when cultures mix, the chris mathews win. How many broadcasts can illegal immigration support? Have you seen that show? oh, y bother….you know it all, you do it.

The Fed Chair’s move, as I clearly explained, (and was the only one to realize), was innappropriate. Now everyone knows about the French Bank’s aggravation of a selloff. The chairman should resign, I know I’d be too embarrassed to show my face ever again after histrionics like that.

He’s spunky. He’s overspirited.

He’s a nut.

Here’s every post duhng ever made: <<>> ha ha ha lol well, i guess they got what they deserved, ha ha HA HA bwa

He’s a troll. a moron. an undersalved rectal chafe, and you’re hurting his chances at rehab by patronizing him. Duhng, listen man, I want you to get better, but jbmlaw is playing you, trying to send you on your circular flush to the funny farm. Take a couple years off, duhng, and then come back and post something. I minored in psyche, I’ll let you know if you’re improving or not.

ha ha ha lol bwa well now, geez, golly goolash,

By getalife

January 26, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

I would not be surprised if President Hillary Clinton shuts down government to attack the deficit.

If the House or Senate are not in sesssion, they can’t waste any more of your money.

She should downsize like corps do when they screw up.

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Dear Disgusted @ 10:30, I respectfully note that only one party - yours - has yoked itself to a foundation theory that “theft is a virtue.” Not that “theft” has any meaning to a leftist.

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Get me rewrite, I want to change my 10:41. Delete “respectfully” and insert “contemptuously.”

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Yeah, jbm and Dusty,

There’s a very respectable fearlessness in the manner in which Rudy and McCain seem to approach the daily grind of being public persons. I think I see it in Obama too. They say what they think, and are unashamed of what they think and of how they have spoken their minds in the past. Where they’ve overstepped, they now apologize—-sometimes unbidden. They cause me to feel almost certainly that they say the same things in the same ways when the same topics happen to come up in small gatherings of their loved ones, as around a dinner table. When they hesitate to answer a question, it looks to me as though they are trying to find the most accurate—-and not the most beguiling—-way to express their thinking. This is especially true, in my opinion, of Rudy, to whom words come as easily as they do to Bill and Hillary.

I watched him last night on C-SPAN—-a tape of his Thursday visit with Cuban-Americans in Miami. Those people are his longtime friends, and when he told them yet again why he admires them, they knew that he meant it, and has meant it for 25 years, and they shouted out that they remember his longstanding loyalty and that they knew that his admiration was sincere. Mitt did much the same thing Thursday at a gathering of Cubano businesspeople, to whom he was able to display his mastery of the art of the turnaround. But Mitt’s plastic; Rudy’s street. As a guy who grew up in a Southern California beach resort, I never thought I’d like a Brooklyn streetfighter with a law degree, but bigod I do.

I admire McCain also, for other than the usual reasons. And I have deep reservations about Mitt that prevent me from embracing the estimable all that he has to offer. But these are good people to run the country, and so, I hope, is Barak Obama.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

getalife,

I think even you monopartisans would be willing to admit that McCain is nobody’s errand boy. It matters not that some of his “advisors” are neoconservatives and other Democrats.

But where you’ve really got him wrong, is your assertion—-slipped, backhanded, into a subordinate clause as usual—-that he’s pro-Establishment on what you erroneously call “the war”. Just as Rep. Barbara Lee was the only Member of Congress to oppose the Iraq invasion, so McCain had been the only Member to say, with Gen. Powell (notwithstanding yesterday’s childish Luckovich ‘toon), that the war now over was being prosecuted in the wrong manner. He specified what he thought the right manner to be, and he was right. (And that’s a damnsight more than Barbara, or for that matter the Clintons, could ever do.) Subsequently, he was the first Senator to forecast the success of the Surge, which was laid out by Gen. Petraeus very much along the lines that McCain himself had called for.

Meanwhile, Hillary has been wrong at every turn. She never really said, “We loathe the military”, but she might as well have done. Her comments this week are as hostile toward the military as any I can recall. She’s wrong about that, too, as she’ll find should she submit herself to voters in a general election.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Thanks for the Bernanke analysis, BTW. I’d looked forward to it, and was afraid it would run along those lines. Gaffer: get the hook!

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Dear Glenn @ 10:48, but for his seemingly deeply-ingrained ideological defect, I share your analysis of Obama.

By getalife

January 26, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Glenn,

Keep it brief blowhard. Today the people vote in SC. Obama will win today but Clinton will win California and the nomination.

The Clinton McCain match up will be civil because they respect each other but Freedom Watch will run disgusting ads against the Clintons and rush and RW media will swift boat McCain.

Clinton wins in a landslide.

By AmVet

January 26, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Good morning all, long time, no post.

Mr Wooten, like many of the tormented and angst-ridden Republicans these days, is in a terrible quandary. How to play the Reagan card when it has NO value. None. And for those of you not paying attention, it hasn’t for years.

This country fell for dictator-coddling Reaganism hook, line and sinker and now decades later realizes they were mere dupes in an endless war on drugs and trickle-down voodoo. And try as they might, the neo-con talking heads just can’t save his ever tarnishing legacy, especially in light of the “results” it has produced by his most ardent adherents and successors. And the reactionaries know the American people, with the benefit of hind sight, now see and understand those basic failings abroad and at home, as well.

So, our esteemed columnist continues to peddle the silly myth of A party that offers smaller government appeals to Reaganites, knowing that the GOP base, supposedly comprised of RR lovers, has consistently elected “leaders” who, like Ronnie, ballooned the size of the bureaucracy and are intent on keeping power at all costs through the use of countless secretive, dubious or even outright corrupt measures.

For example the large, but slow, Fred tried his hardest to be Ronnie-esque but was ultimately just an embarrassment to his party (as were Hunter and Brownback). And his still running GOP rivals are not much better.

The once-viable Rudy, with a “strategy” as equally moronic as the Tennessean’s, is now just stiff milquetoast. Clearly, the wrong man for the job and shockingly, now barely able to out campaign Ron Paul or convince the electorate he is more relevant. Incredible.

The flip-flopper Mitt is still charging but he also has no real chance. He talks a great game, but I sense that the American voters don’t trust him to do one single thing to end the rape of America’s middle class. But he really does look good as the GOP’s latest offering of their typical Republican pr1ck, in spite of that coiffed hair and wry smile.

And though he is the very poster boy for the GOP’s socially “conservative” core, Huckabee is intriguing but not in a good way.

That leaves only one GOP candidate worthy of serious consideration IMHO. He’s a conservative, but hopefully not in that fake and now discounted Ronnie/Newt/Bush-style.

And the list of noteworthy endorsements continues to pile up for this man who alone has the experience, honor and character to lead us for the next few years. And the fact that the worst of the worst in the GOP veritably despises the senior Senator from Arizona is a very good omen for America.

So the GOP choices are two Northeastern quasi-RINOs, a liberal-conservative preacher man, a POW maverick and a very “difficult” uber-maverick. All fighting to avoid speaking truth to the amazing mess left by their party’s leader, hero and predecessor and his warped agenda and policies.

Reaganism in this country, is at last, more or less irrelevant, as are the fools who continue to try and run it up the flagpole from time to time.

The King is dead. Long live the King.

By GaVoter

January 26, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

John McCain/Ron Paul

Between the two of them, they’ve got all the bases covered.

By Dusty

January 26, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

Glenn,

Barach Obama is anti-war and I don’t go for that when our troops are fighting one for us. I don’t care if his name is Hussein or even Mable. I believe he is straightforward but tells us things I don’t want to hear from him now, much less as President.

Obama is not the equal of Condi Rice and never will be. Maybe he will reach the intelligent compatibility and knowledge she exemplifies but I don’t see it now. I wish all candidates had the qualities she possesses.

By Craig

January 26, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

I come here often and read the inane ramblings of the Counselor and his new hero Duh, and wonder how I can phrase my thoughts so as to get through to people who are so obviously brain dead. Then I am presented with the brilliant essays by the Redneck, and realize that my poor pitiful attempts at prose would pale by comparison.

Thank you Redneck Convert. Your expert take down of the fatuous comments by the Counselor make my day. I’m in awe….

By Glen D

January 26, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

If we are going to cut back on the governmental dependency - then let us do it across the board - individuals, corporate entities, farm subsidies, etc. I have always been a fiscal conservative & a social liberal…thought that the Conservative Republican movement started when I was about 13 (1964 - Goldwater) was going to let me keep more of my $$ - what happened? The last 3 conservative GOP presidents have spent more of my $$ than the tax & spend liberal democrats combined.

So…let’s take back our (my!) $$ - why should I subsidize a farmer who sells his crop for less than it costs to grow, why should I bail out the mortgage bankers who made risky loans to Americans who did not have the income stream to repay them, etc. (maybe because since the late 1970’s the government has moved into bailing out both individual citizens & Corporate/Agricultural America - capitalism is no longer a risk - just ask Washington to cover your losses!)

I fear for my grandson - he will probably live in a dictatorship or some variant thereof since we are rapidly sliding down the well financied-road to public bankruptcy.

GDRLA

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

getalife,

It’s impossible, Tool, to be succinct in untying the truth-knots you repeat here.

For example (from your latest), if there’s some “Swiftboating” to be done on McCain, I can’t wait; I’m always interested in the truth. As you show daily, it’s increasing elusive these days.

GaVoter,

John McCain doesn’t so much as acknowledge the existence of Ron Paul.

[Rudy 08]

By getalife

January 26, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Glenn,

He is getting swiftboated moron

It failed in SC but they will try again in the general. Try reading something.

By Apocalypse

January 26, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Whose Stimulus Makes the Grade? By Ruth Marcus Washington Post Wednesday, January 23, 2008; Page A19

One of the benefits of an extended presidential campaign is that it presents real-world tests for candidates. Some take the form of pop quizzes assessing contenders’ instincts in a crisis. Others are more like take-home exams — the latest, and perhaps most revealing, being competing plans for an economic stimulus.

In practical terms, this is irrelevant: The moment for stimulus will be long past by Inauguration Day. But as a way of judging how candidates view government’s role, how they balance politics and policy, and how sound their thinking is on economic policy, the proposals offer a revealing report card.

My grading starts with President Bush, because he sets the curve.

George W. Bush: B-minus. The president gets extra credit for signaling flexibility on his roughly $145 billion package and for not insisting on extending his tax cuts, which made no sense as stimulus and would have doomed its chance of passing.

A tax rebate — the White House has floated $800 per individual — is a good approach. Bush loses points, however, for excluding those without income tax liability, even if they pay hefty payroll taxes. Points off, also, for failing to extend unemployment benefits. In efficiency and fairness, both are exactly backward. As Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke explained, “If you’re somebody who lives paycheck to paycheck, you’re more likely to spend that extra dollar.”

Bush says tax incentives for business investment must be a significant part of the package. But such breaks didn’t have nearly the positive effect anticipated after they were adopted from 2001 to 2003; the Congressional Budget Office found the impact of those provisions to be “relatively modest”; Moody’s Economy.com put it at 27 cents for every dollar spent.

Barack Obama: A-minus. Obama is at the head of the class with an intelligently designed, $120 billion stimulus plan. He would speed a $250 tax credit to most workers, followed by another $250, triggered automatically, if the economy continues on its sour path. Obama would direct a similar rebate to low- and middle-income seniors, who are also apt to spend and could get checks quickly. One demerit: Obama omits any increase in food stamp benefits, which Moody’s estimates would have the greatest bang for the buck, $1.73 for every dollar spent.

John Edwards: B-minus. Edwards gets points for handing in his paper early — in December, he issued a $25 billion stimulus proposal (plus $75 billion more if needed), including important help to states to avoid cutting Medicaid rolls. But like Hillary Clinton (see below), he would spend too much money on programs — investing in “green collar” jobs, for instance — with too long a lag time to make them an effective stimulus. Edwards’s grade goes down because he also hasn’t explained how the $75 billion would be spent.

Hillary Clinton: C-plus. Clinton, too, raised the issue early, then turned in a faulty first draft with a $70 billion stimulus plan that didn’t provide much immediate stimulation. It included a $25 billion increase in the program to help low-income Americans with heating costs — an excessive amount (the current program is under $3 billion) that probably wouldn’t kick in until next winter. Even worse was her housing plan, including a five-year freeze on subprime mortgage rates that could produce higher interest rates and reduce liquidity.

Four days later, Clinton said she would immediately implement a $40 billion tax rebate plan she had put in reserve in her first draft. Fine, but overall, the Obama plan devotes a far greater percentage to spending that is more likely to jump-start the economy.

John McCain: D-plus. The senator should have his plan sent back with “Did you read this assignment?” scrawled in red ink. There’s a respectable argument that stimulus isn’t needed, wouldn’t be effective and could be counterproductive. But the normally straight-talking McCain doesn’t make it. Instead, he proposes permanent tax cuts — cutting corporate rates, increasing investment breaks, eliminating the alternative minimum tax — masquerading as a stimulus plan.

Mitt Romney: D. Romney’s plan is way too big ($233 billion) and badly constructed (most of the stimulus goes to business breaks, his individual tax credits don’t go to those who need them most, and his huge, long-term tax cuts would harm growth if not paid for). You don’t have to be a Harvard Business School grad to understand that encouraging savings is not stimulative.

Mike Huckabee: D-minus. Huckabee understands economic anxiety better than economic principles. The only way his sketchy proposal could stimulate the economy is by scaring Americans into consuming now, before his Fair Tax takes effect.

Rudy Giuliani: Incomplete. His position is too internally contradictory to grade. The former New York mayor told ABC’s George Stephanopolous that “permanent reductions have a bigger impact in stimulating an economy,” then said of the Bush plan, which has no permanent cuts, “If it stays where it is, it’s a good idea.”

marcusr@washpost.com

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Dear getalife @ 11:10, certainly the McCain-Clinton match up would be civil, just as the Obama-Clinton match up is civil. LOL. Don’t you get it: civility is not in her DNA.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Glen D,

What happened with the last three conservative presidents? The middle one was never a conservative, but rather was a holdover from the Rockefeller wing of country-club Republicans. The first one most certainly was of the Goldwater camp, of which he of course represented the apotheosis. But, like the present one, he felt he had wars to fight—-against the Soviets, and against big gubmint—-and his way of fighting was ultra-expensive. He deliberately spent the Commies into the ground, and he deliberately spent Washington into such debt as to force bureaucracy onto a frozen allowance. The man was, as you’ll recall, a blunt instrument.

We weren’t supposed to have paid the bill down enough to have been able, by Clinton’s second term, to afford bloat once again, but that’s what happened. Except that we couldn’t, and can’t, really afford it.

The present incumbent’s failure to arrest these sweeping forces is coming to be viewed as his signal weakness. He was satisfied with tax cuts. Big mistake.

By profit

January 26, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

MEN: If it looks like Hillarity the Clown is going to win the general election, you must act quickly to protect your assets. You should move as much of your wealth as possible off shore, preferable into oil and oil related stocks other than American owned. Hillarity will quickly impose a windfall oil and gas profits tax on American oil and gas companies. Hillarity can tax american oil and gas production, and american oil and gas companies, but she is POWERLESS to impose a windfall profits tax on foreign production and ownership. I like PetroBas, symbol PBR, the Brazillian state oil company that offers public ownership of some shares, Lukoil and Gazprom, the Russian companies, and PetroChina. Schlumberger is the best of the best in oil field services, and is not an American company. Move all your pension money out of the country, because it is one of the FemiNazi’s wet dreams to allow ex wives, ex girl friends, and daughters to claim half or more of those funds. Our best bet is to defeat Hillary at the polls, anyone will be better for men then the HAG and her D Y KE S.

By jm

January 26, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

Funny how Mr. Wooten fails to mention corporate welfare when he mentions entitlements. Like the ridiculous sums of money given for ethanol or sugar price supports. Then again, maybe ethanol will drive the price of corn high enough so that Coke will have to start using sugar again instead of that corn syrup garbage (which might help on the obesity problem).

Another funny thing, no president in my lifetime has “reduced” government, Reagan included. Ronnie brought us the “drug war”, an open ended program which has only served to drain the treasury even further.

Thanks to the drug war, trying to get basic over the counter cold medicine has turned into a royal pain. While I have never bought a gun (I got mine from my dad), I bet I went through more hoops to get a pack of sudafed than I would have to get a 9 millimeter this past weekend.

The first candidate who will let me buy a beer on Sunday and get cold medicine without signing my life away gets my vote.

By Peter

January 26, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

Good Gosh Reagan, trickle down VOO DOO Economics, Big Government, and Huge Deficit is what we have today.

We cannot go back to what we already have.

As one blogger pointed out the same with covertness, and basically ambushing our Constitution.

Another writes “President Clinton” in a landslide…….

That is too scary for even ME to believe……

Some how in all of this John McCain seems like the guy who can stabilize the country, and get it back on track.

By getalife

January 26, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Um, about McCain not wanting to surrender in Iraq:

“Yet, when we had a Democrat in the White House McCain repeatedly argued for bringing the troops home regardless of the consequences:

1994 — “The right course of action is to make preparations as quickly as possible to bring our people home. It does not mean as soon as order is restored to Haiti, it doesn’t mean as soon as Democracy is flourishing in Haiti, it doesn’t mean as soon as we’ve established a viable nation in Haiti, as soon as possible means as soon as we can get out of Haiti without losing any American lives.”

1993 — “Date certain, Mr. President, are not the criteria here. What’s the criteria and what should be the criteria is our immediate, orderly withdrawal from Somalia. And if we don’t do that, and other Americans die, other Americans are wounded, other Americans are captured, because we stayed too long, longer than necessary, then I would say that the responsibilities for that lie with the Congress of the United States who did not exercise their authority under the Constitution of the United States and mandate that they be brought home as quickly and safely as possible.”

And it turns out, Saddam was bluffing about WMD’s to keep Iran from invading.

Now Iran is running Iraq with malarki.

And rudy is an idiot like Glenn: Revealed: Giuliani Ignored NYPD’s Warnings Over WTC Emergency Center

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

jm, thing about corporate welfare, though, is that we’d have to unpack that term. Otherwise it’s like “pro-choice” or “states’ rights” or “limousine liberals”—-without a factual referent, merely tendentious sloganeering.

If you mean grain subsidies, then the Ag. Chair is going to make a strong cost-benefit argument.

If you mean the Chrysler bailout, then Mr. Iacocca will show you why it was in the national interest.

etc., etc.

What’s more, they may be right!

By Apocalypse

January 26, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Hispanics Hurt under Clinton Administration:

The Clinton administration’s criminalization of the economically poor fell heaviest upon Hispanic-Americans. By 1997, more than halfway through the Clinton White House years, 27 percent of federal inmates were Hispanic (compared to 17 percent of state level inmates). By 2000, 43 percent of all federal drug war prisoners were Hispanic, the most likely group to be first-time offenders, and the least likely to have committed a violent crime. (If anything, these numbers undercount the real impact, since most Hispanic inmates are classified by the prison system as “white.”)

Contrary to what CNN’s Lou Dobbs says, these Hispanic prisoners are not primarily “illegal immigrants.” US born Hispanic men are seven times as likely to end up in prison than foreign-born Hispanic men.

And during Bill Clinton’s presidency, the White House made no effort to reform immigration laws or set a path to citizenship for the millions of new immigrants streaming across the border as a result of NAFTA. President George W. Bush has been more progressive on the immigration issue than Clinton ever was.

By getalife

January 26, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

I see ambulance chaser does not read either.

When Obama’s supporter called President Clinton a Lee Atwater hit man, the President bashed a CNN reporter that asked him about that rove tactic.

CNN has been bashing him back and Jack Cafferty went as far as reading Peggy Noonan’s hit piece on the President on the air.

Peggy Noonan is a bigger gop hack than Jim.

You bought into the corporate media crap but the Clintons have toned down their attacks on Obama because he has a Rezko scandal.

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Dear Apocalypse @ 11:40, funny report card, obviously written by a poli-sci major rather than an economist. Thanks for sharing.

Dear jm @ 11:43, I mostly agree with your analysis. I suppose I regard Reagan as deity, not because he was, but because he was so much better than the rest of the thieves.

By GaVoter

January 26, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

Glenn

That’s why I need to get an early start. I need to get the message out now so McCain will know who to ask to be his running mate.

McCain/Paul in 2008

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Dear getalife @ 11:58, assume you got a big laugh out of the smiling pictures of the Clintons and Rezko. Not that the Clintons have ever associated with undesirable people who give money to their campaigns. Dear getalife, does the phrase “slow on the uptake” resound with you?

By OneForTheRoad

January 26, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

Our elected officials want us all to become fire hydrants — they want minions that cannot complain about the warm yellow rain.

By Apocalypse

January 26, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

Actually Ruth Marcus is a columnist for the Washington Post.

I thought it fitting to get her opinion seeing how that is where you and most others get there’s.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Actually, get, it is recognized that you are undiscerning when it comes to the various subspecies of GOP hacks, but even you should know that Noonan isn’t one of them. Rather, she was and still is a flack for Dutch, which just now puts her very much at odds with Bush and the GOP leadership.

By getalife

January 26, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Does blithering moron resound with you?

The Clintons did not get a $300,000 discount on their house.

Idiot.

A freaking picture.

drudge much?

By getalife

January 26, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Glenn,

I know you don’t read but google her.

Try reading something before you spew your ignorance.

By Jackie

January 26, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

@jbmlaw,

Did you have time out of your busy schedule to read my reply to your specious argument about O’Reilley and the homeless vets? Your lack of reply gives one the impression that you believe there are no homeless veterans in this country. Please inform us of your conclusions!

By jm

January 26, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Glenn@11:54 - Mark Twain said there are three kinds of lies: “Lies, Damn Lies and statistics”. I am sure the AG Chairman and Mr. Iacocca produced numbers that supported their causes. Also, many of those industries that cry the loudest at any hint of government regulation are also first in line with hat in hand when things are not going well. It will be interesting to see what kind of handouts are given to the financial markets who lost beacoup bucks due to funny CDO’s based on sub prime loans.

As for corporate welfare, I generally limit my barbs for the two I mentioned, sugar and ethanol. Sugar because of the damage done to the everglades and to the coke I loved as a kid (they use corn syrup now instead of sugar). Ethanol because it will never solve are fuel problems and the increased fertilizer run off used to grow the corn in the midwest is destroying the Gulf of Mexico.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

jm,

The ethanol t** drives me crazy too, and not like both of Carmen Electra’s do. It just facially doesn’t make sense to me. The high school senior who won the Florida State Science Fair for figuring out how to make ethanol from kudzu—-now THAT MAKE WHOLOTTA SENSE!

On corporate welfare generally, I think I’d want to know what Moynihan thought about it, as I know of no one as perceptive wherever welfare was concerned. Every kind of “welfare” trickles, so I guess I’d want to ask the late Prof. Pat, In which direction, this? Who/whom? How much? Under the terms of what social contract?

As for sugar, it may interest you that President Carter, once and future Board Member of Coca-Cola, carved out an exception to the U.S. trade embargo of Cuba: cane sugar, of which the Coca-Cola Corp. is the largest consumer in the world. The Soviets were, at that time, subsidizing Cuban sugar to the tune of $3 billion per annum, the principal prop of the Cuban economy. Per Carter, then, the Soviet worker was subsidizing your fiendish Coke habit. Five-Point Plan Go Better with Coke! Nice bit of Cold Warring, eh? (And good for Atlanta, too!)

When Gorbachev cut off the USSR’s cane supports to Cuba—-part of his own “peace dividend”—-the Cuban economy, never a healthy patient to begin with, was downgraded from Critical to medically dead.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I know Peggy personally. Was engaged to one of her colleagues in Presidential Speechwriting. Dufus.

You still don’t get that far from flacking for the Party, she’s scolding it, and wishing for it’s defeat, prerequisite to its Phoenix-like rediscovery of her Reaganism.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Will do, Profit. Thanks.

By @@

January 26, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

Glenn @ 10:27:

My late mentor called this “radical uterus envy, institutionalized”.

Funny ^^^ “men-tore” you had there.

While my college studies were in Sociology I paid little homage to Dr. Mead’s anthropological contributions. Her research, which sought to bring the outside in made me laugh when I read your phrase.

Heck…self has become so convoluted with applications of I…you…they…us and we, that nobody knows who US is anymore, and we’re all the worse for it.

I am woman—hear me roar!!! Men have not changed, nor will they ever. Radical uterus envy? *Cherish the thought Glenn—men don’t wanna wear one…..well, on second thought, yes they do, but only the outer garment. For too many men, not all; when the thermostat goes up they’ll opt for the cold. Women better recognize the cold, hard (no pun intended) truth of that fact.

The challenge of feminist theory today is how to invent new images of thought that can help us think about change and changing constructions of self. Not the a statics of formulating truths or ready available counteridentities, but the living process of transformation of self and therein (again, no pun) other.

Cherish the thought ladies! when it comes to your uterus. It is, afterall, the cradle of civilization.

jbmlaw:

It looks like you hurt PoliFore’s ego.

You read Luckoduh? From duhng’s p-hole to your mouth, then. Pallette cleanse. Easily amused much?

He’s spunky. He’s overspirited.

He’s a nut.

Give PoliFore a smack on the rump jbmlaw…..it’s all about the competition. You’ve benched him and he doesn’t like playing second string to Luckoduh.

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Dear jackie @ 12:33, apologies, no I did not see your reply. Of course I do not suggest there are no homeless veterans, I simply deny that their homelessness is a factor of the economy (the core argument of, and basis for the highlighting discussion by, the evil Breck girl.) Virtually all of those rare souls are victims of self-inflicted demons.

More to the point, I believe your embracing that pointless position makes you “useful” to those who would proffer the view that only losers are drawn to the military. I know you are a veteran also, and I do not understand your complicity with that position. (For a more elaborate version of the argument, Ollie North fleshes it out on the FoxNews.com page.)

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

Dear jm & glenn @ various times, I have a simple formula for analyzing “corporate welfare.” (1) Whenever government cuts a check, to whom is it payable? (2) Why was the check purportedly cut?

With the exception of welfare checks, social security checks, and payroll checks (none of which lead to any form of production), all checks are “corporate welfare,” and are generally a corruption of the market. Such corruption is justifiable only when the ripple adverse effects do not exceed whatever good is produced by the check - a rare circumstance.

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

Dear @@ @ 1:04, funny post, you made me laugh. I noted PoFo’s note, and I still find his stuff amusing; I always read his posts, under whatever name he elects. But I thought Luckoduh was at the top of his game today, even better than usual, and I felt an obligation to express my appreciation for the arguments. (You and Glenn and Dusty are always at the top of your game, so do not take my silence as disapproval.)

By OneForTheRoad

January 26, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Well, what do you know. Who would have ever guessed. Baby boomers are getting old and retiring. Not only that, some of them even figure that they have a right to get back a little of that money they involuntarily invested in Social Security. Of course, some of them are even going to demand a little bit of Medicare and Medicaid after they get older and figure out that they did not have a prayer of a chance at saving enough to offset the 100s of percent increases in health care. Then a handful will be lucky enough to have saved some money rather than follow the lead of our government and go down the path of “debt is good so more debt is better”. Unfortunately, there is a new problem looming for those that tried to be good stewards of their limited resources (i.e., they saved a few bucks). Their savings are being stolen right out from under their eyes from every direction. Stock market returns that once provided a hedge against inflation are being stolen by greedy executives in the form of everything from back dated stock options, golden parachutes, pay for non-performance, off-shore “companies”, etc. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Let’s not forget our government employees either. We need to hire more and more aids and helpers to research more and more problems that would otherwise distract our politicians — nary a statesman to be found — from focusing on the ball. The ball is none other than the next election. It does not matter if it is only December 26. Christmas is but days away. Things to do, places to go, people to see. I wonder if I can squeeze in a few minutes to ask my constituency for a few bucks in return for a pep talk. If Hillary would promise to shut down the government, I’d vote for her. Now that’s a tax rebate we can all afford.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

jbm,

I like your cutting test of check cutting, as it cuts a good distinction—-the very business you’re in!

@@,

Your remarks are rather profound (another word abused to catatonia). I happen to agree with your prescription for the feminist project. I studied feminist theory with Nel Noddings, an extraordinary woman and a lovely human being. I venture to say that Nel too would agree with you, and especially with your apt hot/cold metaphor, as she probably would say that the way forward lies in a closer familiarity with that warmth. Being of that sex which privileges constructs, I think that your Yalie inside/outside distinctions are even more promising. That enterprise might next consider that aspect of the notorious, paternalistic appropriation of the female form, as to inside/outside, e.g. the extent to which our worldview is conditioned by our perception specifically of our bodies. In this regard, it disturbs me as an educator that girls are taught that they “have” bodies, rather than that they are bodies, as this renders their now reified bodies alienable and thus exploitable, and greatly colors the girls’ worldviews.

Funny what you said of your college studies. Even when I taught Sociology I did so from the standpoint of (historical) Anthropology! I do greatly respect the Phenomenologists, though.

By @@

January 26, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw:

PoliFore can be funny until his ego is damaged—then he becomes mean and unhinged. Not a quality I find admirable.

He becomes a weak competitor when he lets his emotions get the best of him.

I must admit though, (she said while tossing her locks)…tussling with him down in the gutter is a favorite pastime of mine when I have the time.

Hissssssssssssss

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

OneRoadie,

Now you’re talkin. And how come the candidates ain’t?

@@,

Incidentally, in Classical Greek lore Mentor, the tutor of Odysseus, was actually the great Godess Athena in disguise. If you’d take a moment to refresh your memory of Athena’s impressive list of attributes (Google it or Wiki or something), I think that you in particular will experience a charming coup de tete moment of recognition.

By getalife

January 26, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

“When it comes to a weekend retreat for House Republicans, it’s meet the new boss, same as the old boss time: As Bush stood in the banquet room addressing the assembled lawmakers, projected onto a giant screen next to him were the words “Congressional Institute.” That was a plug for the longtime organizer of these GOP retreats…The group is run by a high-powered board of Republican lobbyists…

Until a couple of years ago, the institute’s board of lobbyists would always come to these retreats, often hosting happy hours for the members and getting invaluable access in a relaxed, private setting. But the Jack Abramoff scandal ended that practice, and now lobbyists don’t actually attend the retreats anymore, though they still foot some of the bill.”

Yay gop.

“ExxonMobil, the largest publicly traded oil company in the world, is set to announce their largest annual earnings ever. Which also means ExxonMobil will break their own record set last year as the most money ever made by a company in US history.

CNN Money is reporting that ExxonMobil will announce next week $10.37 billion in earnings for the fourth quarter - a paltry $111 million a day.”

It helps to have corrupt oil men ruining this country.

By Luckoduh

January 26, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Well, well, isn’t it nice to see the pinkos worry over the Republican party, even as theirs crashes and burns?:

{{{{With black voters turning away from her, Ku Klux Klinton has found a new firewall: Latino voters, whose reputed tensions with African Americans will lead them, some KKKlintonites believe, to reflexively oppose Obama.-TheNewRepublic}}}}

How about that loyalty, isn’t it sweet to find out the White Powers only need you for your vote?

Unless they can find someone that hates you as much as they do.

By getalife

January 26, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Of course duh, she will win California.

Duh.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

In what little bit still passes itself off as journalism, the new “gutter” (not the graphical one) is the Internet. Its proponents like to say that it’s a neutral tool, but that’s because, in my opinion, they’re not perceptive enough to see otherwise. It is, in actuality if not in theory, a specific tool of deception, probably the most formidable ever known.

But there have been and are others. The camera lens, for example, is a lie, especially when film moves, or mega-pixels burn, rapidly behind it. It distorts into grotesques the honest souls who lie before it, and transforms dishonest persons into travesties of honesty.

The Internet, a multimedia array, is far more formidable a danger. If only the Canadians would produce another McLuhan to show us how that is the case. I myself don’t know how; I just know.

Not much of an argument, huh?

By Dusty

January 26, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

Well, we have Jackie with us again and jbmlaw wonders why Jackie, a veteran, would make the assumption that most veterans need help.

In Jackie’s case, it is quite clear. He knocks the Veterans Administration under George W. Bush to make one more smear against a Republican president he hates. Jackie would even make veterans sound like a bunch of loons to do it.

There is another aspect of which I do not think that Jackie is aware. You cannot force people to get help if no criminal activity is involved. There are some legal means. But mental illness is not criminal in itself.

As has been mentioned, some citizens including veterans will refuse treatment and help. Some are on the streets. But they have civil rights just like the rest of us. That does not necessarily mean that help is not there or offered. It is the sad debilitating effects of mental illness on the ability to reason.

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

Dear Glenn @ 12:25, your comments on Peggy Noonan intrigue me. Unlike you, all of my observations are from afar. I fully agree with your “flack” observation, Peggy’s view of the Gipper borders on hero-worship (as, perhaps, does mine) but I always perceived Peggy as less “ideologically pure” than I am. (“Of course, almost everyone is less ideologically pure than I am,” he said in Wagnerian tones.) Indeed, until her recent war on W, I would have defined her as a pre-W “compassionate conservative,” and one closer to your (non)ideological view of the world than mine. I am not certain what argument I am trying to draw from you, but I perceive the difference between you and Peggy as one of “teams” rather than “beliefs.” (That came out a littler blunter than I wished, please don’t read that as a hostile observation.) How do you differ from Peggy?

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

You know, get, you’re a lot more interesting than your gutter sources are.

Your analysis of LA politics, for example, has been really good and very interesting.

By @@

January 26, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

You tax my recall—I like that!

I’ll do it (google myself in the mirror) but I’m in the middle of baking a cake.

cogito ergo sum….

a carrot cake for now and Athena later.

By getalife

January 26, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

Glenn,

Speaking of LA politics, our brand new Indian governor starts off his ethics reform leadership by getting fined for breaking campaign fianance law.

A classic example of the gop change Jim opines about.

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Dear Dusty @ 2:02, “But mental illness is not criminal in itself.” If it were, we could incarcerate all of the MoveOns.

By getalife

January 26, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

No stupid, it would get mental help for those who believe voting gop will change anything.

It is the definition of insanity.

By OneForTheRoad

January 26, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Glenn

Many politicians are actually “smarter” than they would have us believe. For example, when they “ain’t talkin” it’s because they know that they have “nothing worth hearing” to say. Governor Perdue is a prime example. During his last campaign he didn’t say a thing except “vote for me”.

By Dusty

January 26, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Good one, jbmlaw @ 2:13

and you didn’t do too badly, getalife @2:17 . Of course, if you, getalife, could get a bit of tutoring from Miss Manners; a lot of rude, crude and unrefined might disappear.

Yeah, I know. That is asking too much.

By RW-(the original)

January 26, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

getalife,

It doesn’t make a big difference on the Democrat side if Clinton wins California because you guys use proportional allocation of delegates.

By getalife

January 26, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

Shut your pie hole, fake patriot.

How’s that?

“Paul Wolfowitz, the former World Bank president and former deputy secretary of defense who was instrumental in the US decision to invade Iraq in 2003, has been named chairman of a panel that advises the State Department on arms-control issues.”

“Arms control”, as in WMDs.”

This crap writes itself.

Hilarious.

By getalife

January 26, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

RW,

She will win on superdelegates.

By RW-(the original)

January 26, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Is that because Democrats don’t trust the actual voters?

By getalife

January 26, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

RW,

The actual voters elected w twice.

Nuff said.

By RW-(the original)

January 26, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

getalife,

So much for your claim that Republicans are trashing the Constitution. I guess you just obliterated it. Are you going to call her Your Majesty?

Later!

By Dusty

January 26, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Will you stop that, getalife? I had to clean my computer screen after your last post.

But go ahead. I have the Pinesol ready.

You have rightly classified your posts as crap.

Sad..

By getalife

January 26, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Actually RW,

I think it was the McGovern thumpin that caused the superdelagate thingy.

Edwards said he will stay until the convention so it is an interesting race.

By Just Curious

January 26, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

I am just curious. Do y’all know the defination of succinct? Especially you Duh.

By getalife

January 26, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Yes dusty,

Reality is sad but there is only one more year of the w disaster. He will rehire Rumsfeld as war czar, libby for AG, Brown to run DHS.

Some leader eh? Anyhoo, it is almost over and we will get past it.

By profit

January 26, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Wolfoweasel should be tried for treason and executed… oh h e ll, forget the trial, burn him at the stake like the W i t ch (with a capital B) that he is.

By Democrat National Kommittee

January 26, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

Uh, we bring you an important announcement from Exalted Cyclops Billy Klux, quiet please:

“This message is for you uppity blacks in South Carolina, if you should lynch my “wife” the genius, Misses Klux, as it appears you will, then first thing Monday morning I will send the storm troopers around and have you evicted from those slums that we gave you last election year. We will then turn them over to our new friends, the illegal immigrants, all 25 million of them. And also, there will be no more $500 a month welfare checks for you, bwa.”

“So choose who you vote for carefully or no more food stamps for you.”

“And I won’t be coming around to your churches no more, which will be fine with me, all that crap about equal rights and freedom makes me sleepy anyway.”

“So don’t vote for that Muslim, that Hussein fellow, we have recently decided that Muslims are bad after all. I know, I know, we were going to surrender to them as soon as we got the White House but that was before they attacked the White Powers, they shouldn’t have done that. Muslims suck and are a different color, did you know that? I didn’t until I met that Hussein Obama terrorist fellow. Plus he’s a crack dealer and we don’t like crack dealers anymore either. Forget about equal sentencing laws, I say crack dealers should be executed. Crack dealers suck, huh, oh, yeah, I’m sorry, we are still against capital punishment. Alright let’s put the crack dealing terrorists like Obama in overseas prisons where we can do whatever we want to them and ignore the Constitution, hey, let go of me, I’m not finished yet..”

Uh, we now return to our regularly scheduled hate festival.

Zeig Heil!

By ron

January 26, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

We’ll know in a while how much S.C. wants Obama.For his experience and his leadership ability,mind you.no other reason.

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Dear Ron @ 3:59, you left out his comparative strengths in temperament and integrity.

By Jackie

January 26, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

@jbmlaw,

I find your comments and thought processes without merit and meaning. You say that I am useful to pass along rhetoric about the leftist cause and I say to you, I would not step out on that ledge that you are building for yourself. Your words and thoughts, regardless of how elegant they happen to be, are empty and without any merit. You, my friend are an unabashed, bald faced liar. Put some words to that.

By ron

January 26, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Did someone mention dancing ability?

By ray

January 26, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

the new GOP - a disgrace to white men everywhere…watching obama make the whities on the right makes me long for the days when the republican party wasn’t afraid to call a snow shovel a snow shovel…only quality i ever admired about the right was that they had stones…now we see it for the chicken house it has become. see ron @3:59, jbmlaw @4:06…grow a pair, gents.

By Jackie

January 26, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

@Dusty,

Your words “In Jackie’s case, it is quite clear. He knocks the Veterans Administration under George W. Bush to make one more smear against a Republican president he hates. Jackie would even make veterans sound like a bunch of loons to do it.

There is another aspect of which I do not think that Jackie is aware. You cannot force people to get help if no criminal activity is involved. There are some legal means. But mental illness is not criminal in itself.”

Please see how ridiculous you sound. You purpote to be a nurse and you are blinded by the fact that you are a sheep that believes Dubya is a walking god. Logically speaking, how many of those 149,000 cases do you think the VA is behind on; how many of the more than 3,900 military that have died; how many of the more than 29,000 wounded with more than 20,000 of those wounded so severely they can no longer serve on active duty; how many of those Pentagon estimated 65,000 troops with PTSD feel they are in this condition because they did not choose to get help? You say that you support the troops and are for the good of this country, yet, you make inane statements like you just posted. You sound like you need a frontal lobotomy. I defy you to give a rational rebuttal to what you have just stated. Remember, everyone can say what you are saying, slow motion.

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

Dear Jackie @ 4:06, “typical leftist” crosses my mind.

By Jackie

January 26, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

@jbmlaw,

Typical slimly, maggot comes to the front in think of you. By the way, go to Wal-Mart to pick up the batteries for your nose, CLOWN!!!! BLINK, BLINK, BLINK!!!!

By Dusty

January 26, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

Jackie@4:17

You get so many things wrong. First one: I am not a nurse. Have never said I was. My field is laboratory medicine.

My post was mainly about mental health care because you implied that so MANY veterans were not getting care involving mental health. That is what I discussed.

We are in a war which you don’t support. You don’t care about terrorism. Our troops are fighting for us and they suffer more than the rest of us. Mental health is part of it. If they are not getting the help they need, I cited one of the reasons that is well known, except by you.

The healthcare field is slow moving. Miracles don’t happen overnight. The country is making every effort to take care of veterans. It is not always sufficient.

I think you use any excuse to make the President look bad. I support him as the best way to support the country. You didn’t support the Navy when Iranians rushed toward our warhips. I have not found anything you really support that is American. Why is that?

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

I don’t know why you guys are questioning Jackie’s motives in caring about veterans. He and I have been discussing details of their condition for months, and I know him to be informed, thoughtful, sincere, and committed. Moreover, we read some of the same vets literature, and he invariable cites it accurately and analytically.

It is almost customary for veterans of all shades of opinion to be ticked off at the U.S. government, no matter who’s in charge. Visit your nearest Post or Legion Hall; you’ll get an earful. You might even say that in a sense it’s Jackie’s duty to complain about what he’s seen and still sees.

We ought to be preparing a major push for veterans. Britain has just begun such a push, and theirs is wholly nonpartisan: every party in Parliament supported it on the sole and express condition that it not constitute sham assistance, which the Brits call “American-style” veterans services. We could repackage the G.I. Bill, for example, as that would help the economy while helping the vets. We’ve done that with other conflicts since WWII. But whatever we do, it’s people such as Jackie who should take the lead. I for one will follow it.

It’s OK I guess to talk about bootstrapping, except that lately you’ve been talking about vets who are (a) strapped to begin with, and (b) are not coping, albeit self-destructively, with just one or two challenges—-e.g. schizophrenia and homelessness—-but with multiple needs. That’s exactly what makes them the toughest nut to crack in all social services.

One good starting point might be with a figure Jackie was the first to post here: fully 65% of returning personnel are identified by USDVA as suffering from PTSD. Most of these men and women will take off their uniforms and resume work, and will dwell among us. Some of them have done so and are doing so now. Jackie has no confidence in the VA’s ability to reach these people so as to aid their healing. Neither do I have.

Any ideas? Because he and I have been working on some.

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

Dear Dusty @ 4:40, I think I know why Jackie thinks some veterans are not getting sufficient psychiatric treatment.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

jbm,

That’s a flattering question you asked me while I was enjoying a memorable fine dining experience at the Big Chicken. Compare myself to Noonan? Gee.

Uh, Peggy’s got a rather unusual attribute, one which my grandfather saw in my grandmother: “She has whims of steel.” I happen not to have inherited that trait.

While we are coreligionists, I take from the Gospel a tragic worldview, whereas Peggy’s true-blue in her Reagan optimism; realistic to be sure, but optimistic.

We both love our language, the American one. She’s not one of the Anglophilic Reaganauts—-which is to say that she knows better than to curtsy to the Queen (a mistake that’s been known to get the President’s at-will employees fired), and is content to leave such nonsense to the likes of Mrs. Reagan.

I came late to the Reagan fan club. Peggy’s a charter member. She actually did most of her work for GHWB, but her heart still belongs to Big Buddy, as you know. In this and in many other ways, she’s always reminded me of the late Maureen Reagan, whom I, and a gazillion other people of various stripes, loved. Maureen was just like her dad in that she simply wouldn’t allow herself to pause for people who were confused, or perpetually seeking, or defeated or pessimistic. Perhaps you’ll note that even in her musings of the past year Peggy, who usually puts pen to paper only when she thinks she’s figured out a fresh way to say a stale thing, is still anticipating her, and Dutch’s, shining City on a Hill.

And through the ages, God finds His people seeking a better city, a city whose founder and builder is God Himself. And that is why He is not ashamed to be called their God; for He has such a city prepared for them.

Paul’s Letter to the Hebrews

By jbmlaw

January 26, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

Dear Glenn @ 5:03, I do not question Jackie’s motives in caring about veterans, except to the extent that he misdiagnoses the problem (my 1:06 outlined the subject of my dispute with Jackie.) So long as he thinks the “poor economy” is the cause of the homeless veterans’s discomfit, there is no hope for cure. Or do you dispute that individual substance abuse is the substantial cause for those rare cases of homelessness in our veterans?

By getalife

January 26, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

Gay party to go to tonight.

That’s where I’ll be when they announce the results.

Bwa.

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

I understand your explanation, jbm. I can’t think that Jackie really believes that a wobbly economy caused the troubles of homeless vets. And for my part, I’m certain that their individual substance abuse is a terribly exacerbating and even deadly symptom, not a cause, of their suffering. As Jackie and I both happened to note from time to time, for 30 years it has been our vets who have constituted the largest bloc of the homeless. It’s very difficult to discuss such a really sensitive topic without seeming censorious or sanctimonious, which difficulty may account in part for the continuing prevalence of the problem. But I’m getting ready to do some things, to make some pitches to USDVA and the State Veterans Agencies, and I just get this gut feeling that it’s time for everyone who gives a sh!t to do something, to act, and to parse ideology at some time of leisure. If you and Dusty want to get ahold of a vet or two and coach and cajole and whatnot in favor of bootstrapping, abso-effing-lutely, then! Make it happen! Jackie’s thing, though, is that the VA is broken, and he’s just daft enough to think it can be duct-taped into something useful, and to that I say, likewise: Amen! Go! I’m trained, like a good Prussian, to think systemically & statistically (do not see jm’s Twain quote of this a.m.), so that’s the way I’m going about it, on the one dimension of the homeless vets’ dysfunction that I think I might know something about addressing. There are lots of things to be done—-and lots of things that are being done but not well enough—-for lots of categories of vets and also for serving personnel.

Getalife thinks Hillary’s going to take McCain. He’s mistaken. Know why? ‘Cause Hillary’s been badmouthing the military, and Peoria won’t put up the votes for someone who does that. Not this time.

By Political Foreskin

January 26, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Wow you guys really advanced the discussion. jbmlaw, take a break.

The most important development last week: 1). Contrary to sentiment, it appears the world’s stock markets are all linked inexorably to the Dow.

2). the Fed chair has set an inflation time bomb in motion that should ruin us by spring. 3). Maria Sharapova is back. This time, she's got a serve. She won the australian open and ripped me apart at the seams. Woman's tennis in nothing without her. There are moves she makes during a backhand that no stripper on a pole can touch. She's everything. The queen of tennis, sans pier. 4. I have a transcript of Mitt Romney's speech that he's going to give next wednesday. Here's a portion: "....and Hillary Clinton has the apple bottom jeans, and boots with the fur FURRRRR...and son I got Lodle lodle lodle lodle..."

By Glenn

January 26, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

Two reasons for you to have fun, then, get. Enjoy!

By Political Foreskin

January 26, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

man, someone must have indulged glenn as a child big time. This is not myspace, glenn. If you cant read wooten, and understand it, then dont try to fool anyone by posting stream of consciousness or personal musings about a topic you obviously are unfamiliar with. It’s not fair to the AJC, or it’s readers, man.

And if you post after hours one more time, go ahead, i dare you. Ignore wooten’s rules like you ignore his topics. Go ahead. See what happens to your flushing priveleges..

The reason most of the waistbands who blog here ignore wooten, is because they know I’ll expose the fact that they missed what wooten was trying to communicate. Wooten is wasted on 95% of the readers. They simply dont get him at all. That’s why I think it’s time that we just have a point/counterpoint with only Wooten and me, and maybe jbmlaw or midsouth. At least these two usually understand where Wooten goes.

They also have good instincts about economic developments and world events.

But to allow these other trolls to simply stick their fingers in the pipeline just to make noise is ridiculous.

Go ahead, anyone, and tell me what wooten meant in paragraph 7 of his piece today. But dont blog after hours, wait till tommorrow. That will give you rim tears a chance to google everything. and edit. and maybe make sense, and advance the discussion.

ADVANCE THE DISCUSSION. there’s a new concept. stop myspacing. stop facebooking. stop utubing. stop ebaying. and quit trying to infect my new dell with your virus links. I propose that we outlaw all links. If you cant summarize what the link states, then go soak your head. I’m sick of it.

I’m am calling in all my favors, all of them, that jim wooten owes me and demand that he implement this rule. no links.

ISAIDNOLINKS!!!!!!

By Luckoduh

January 27, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

And off slinks Ku Klux Billy into the cold, dark night, another disaster wrought behind him, a loser once again.

But still loved by many, many bigots.

Bwa.

~~~~~

And always such a gracious loser:

{{{{Bubba: Obama Is Just Like Jesse Jackson- January 26, 2008 8:18 PMSaid Bill Clinton today in Columbia, SC: “Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in ‘84 and ‘88. Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here.” Boy, I can’t understand why anyone would think the Clintons are running a race-baiting campaign to paint Obama as “the black candidate.”-Jake Tapper, ABC “News”}}}}

It’s just the uppity blacks again, eh, Billy?

~~~~~

{{{{Klinton’s campaign had anticipated a loss in South Carolina and sought throughout the week to play down the significance of the vote here. But the size of Obama’s victory margin was far larger than her advisers or any pre-primary poll had anticipated, as Obama demonstrated an ability to energize his supporters on a day when turnout appeared likely to break the previous record for a Democratic primary.}}}}

~~~~~

And look at the Urinal, desperately trying to put Humpty Dumpty back together again:

{{{{Few haters inside two main camps- Despite the elbows thrown by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in the final days of the South Carolina primary campaign, their supporters weren’t holding grudges against one another. In exit polls Saturday, roughly four out of five voters would be satisfied if Clinton or Obama wins the Democratic nomination.-Urinal}}}}

Yeah, the same polls that had Obama’s lead shrinking to 7% before they voted, he won by 28%, bwahahaha.

{{{{COUNTDOWN 2008: Democrats delight in GOP stronghold Excitement seems a big win for party-Urinal}}}}

Those are called anti Ku Klux Klintoon voters, duh.

There are a bunch of them, ain’t there?

Me included, Bwa.

~~~~~

{{{{OVER the years, I’ve been deeply moved by the people who’ve told me they wished they could feel inspired and hopeful about America the way people did when my father was president. This sense is even more profound today. That is why I am supporting a presidential candidate in the Democratic primaries, Barack Obama. -By CAROLINE KENNEDY Published: January 27, 2008}}}}

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{{{{And yet I cannot deny that I’ve felt a mounting sense of unease verging into disgust with Bill Clinton’s increasingly aggressive role in the campaign over the last couple of weeks. So I’ve tried to figure out just what it is that’s gotten to me. To give you some perspective, I don’t think there are many people who are bigger fans of Bill Clinton than I am or who’ve expended more ink defending him and his presidency.- Josh Marshall}}}}

{{{{With the exception of a few days in early January I’ve gone on the assumption for many months that Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee. But I think Bill’s actions have greatly diminished her. He has put her back under his shadow where she hasn’t been for years.}}}}

{{{{But I think she looks much smaller now. He’s dominating the race. And that makes her look like a weaker figure — something that will not wear well in the general election. And this campaign really suggests this is going to be some sort of co-presidency. When Hillary’s getting knocked around by the folks on the Hill is Bill going to go Larry King to knock her enemies around? Will he be going off to foreign countries on his own little diplomatic missions?}}}}

He’s doing a fine job.

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{{{{The Clinton campaign is hosting a small post-election event at Element Nightlife, a downtown Columbia bar and club. With one hour until polls close, fewer than 20 Hillary Clinton supporters have arrived for the party. Bartenders here say the campaign has rented the establishment until approximately 9 p.m., guaranteeing an early night for the Clinton supporters who show up.}}}}

Bwa.

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The Psychos of sorrow at the Whiny Times and their never ending crying jag:

{{{{So the Bushies want to give everyone an $800 check to stimulate the economy. That’s just enough to buy a Chinese TV or a Japanese computer. Anybody have a plan for the U.S economy?- The Vent.}}}}

So when did Pelosi and Reid become “Bushies?”

{{{{Consumers tighten belts, squeeze economy- Economists are fretting that consumer spending might fall for the first time since 1991, pushing the United States into a recession.-Urinal}}}}

If if and buts were candy and nuts, hold up, the libs are a bunch of fruitcakes, nevermind.

{{{{New president will be faced with long-term economic woes- About 70 percent of Americans believe the country is headed in the wrong direction, a striking indication of a profound malaise not seen since the days of Jimmy Carter, who was dogged by enemies abroad and economic dysfunction at home.-Queen Pinko, Urinal}}}}

One of the longest sustained periods of growth in American history and all the libs can do is whine and predict doom and gloom.

Is it them or is it the economy?

Seriously, are you a financial failure?

{{{{A robust 84 percent of us say we’re satisfied with the way things are going in our personal lives, while only 14 percent are dissatisfied. Our satisfaction is down ever so slightly from its peak of 88 percent in December 2004. It’s no surprise, really, that Americans are overwhelmingly happy with their lives and their finances. We live in a nation that promises vast personal liberty, exceptional opportunities, and material wealth that allows most of us to live like kings and queens, whether compared with previous generations or with the lifestyles of billions of people around the globe today.-Gallop Poll 1/8/08.}}}}

So the 14% whiners are trying to drag the rest of us into their pit of despair?

And tagging themselves as failures at the same time, economic losers in an economy where 84% feel successful.

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The good news from Iraq that the Urinal just ignores:

{{{{On Sunday near Baqubah, Coalition Forces liberated two Iraqi citizens who had been brutalized in an al-Qaeda torture house. As the Soldiers approached the building they heard individuals crying out from behind a heavy locked door. Inside were two men chained to the ceiling. It turned out that they were hard-working electricians who maintained the power lines that are so vital to the electrical infrastructure and so vital to the distribution of electricity to the Iraqi people. The Soldiers also found braided wire cords, cables and a strap hooked to the ceiling used to hold the prisoners while they were being beaten.}}}}

{{{{Al-Qaeda Iraq not only targets women and children … but as we are witnessing in recent months … they also prey on their innocence and have used them as suicide bombers. On Sunday … … a young boy… whose family is from a tribe linked to al-Qaeda Iraq … walked into a party at an Awakening Council leader’s compound and detonated a bomb inside a box of candy killing himself and four others.}}}}

{{{{An Iraqi Special Weapons and Tactics team from Al Kut was conducting a patrol with U.S. Special Forces near Badrah. At a stop in one village, a group of Iraqi civilians informed Iraqi and U.S. Forces of a possible munitions cache. Iraqi and U.S. Forces discovered and secured a cache consisting of 321 anti-personnel mines, two 155mm artillery rounds and one 120mm mortar round.}}}}

By TW

January 27, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

Romney? C’mon, Jim. ‘No’ to McCain’s military wisdom? ‘No’ to the self-proclaimed Christian values of Huckabee? No to ‘Mr. 9/11 - I put the command center inside the target Giuliani’(agree with you on that one). But yes to more money for the wealthy. I appreciate your honesty. And after all, that’s what this country is in most need of right now - more yacht furntiature for those with the big boats.

But, seriously, for all practical purposes, you might as well have endorsed Ann Coulter.

It’s over and you know it. You and the likes of rush and o’reilly were entrusted with the conservative torch and you gleefully watched it go out. Simple as that.

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 27, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

AJC Headline: “Crime-plagued homes to be razed”. Dang, there goes the Governor’s Mansion.

By Glenn

January 27, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

Rumpelforeskin,

It’s a pity the wolves of Avignon finally tired of you and left you on the doorstep of missionary pedants, to work out forever after which of countless conceits is the real you, lupine or human. Of all your many poses, the most absurd is that of menacing Warden of this blog.

As regards your post of ten past six o’clock last evening, I invite you to make good on your latest threats. Now. Don’t wait for me to do again something of which you disapprove. Go ahead and call in all your favors, because two-thirds-and-one can play at that game, and I am owed far more than a favor.

However badly you may have wanted to refer Jim’s banal column of yesterday to your medical practice in the diagnosis of and prognosis for the economy, still that was not the subject of the column; the subject was sickening human dependency institutionalized, a pathology to which Jim admits his own skills as a physician are not equal.

At least one physician attending yesterday’s inquest—-shockingly, under an identity other than one of your own—-had spent decades specializing in the successful treatment of said pathology, but you, in your supercilious monomania, simply weren’t paying attention. The most trenchant analysis of the day was a far cry from this cryptically elliptical one:

“Entitlements stunt productivity, but most of all….when cultures mix, the chris mathews win. How many broadcasts can illegal immigration support? Have you seen that show? oh, y bother….you know it all, you do it.”

(How very helpful.) No, the most astute observation was @@’s surgical incision: that we are to be a nation of “Boys to men. Raised by Super Nannies.” Jim’s was a plea for a methodical approach to a collective behavioral problem, and so the social and behavioral sciences were kicked around throughout the day: politics, most especially in the discussions of the need to supersede certain social services or else to render them less debilitating and less costly; Social Psychology and Cultural Anthropology, in something very near to a theoretical close reading of Jim’s metaphor of weaning. (cf. the Dalai Lama’s recent talk at Emory.)

Yet you deny that these topics were discussed in the context Jim provided, and even in the context of the very paragraph that you claimed, after the day’s blogging, we had ignored. Moynihan, for example, was mentioned because that man—-a putative NEOCON!—-understood the importance of the kind of behavioral approaches taken yesterday; indeed, he was a student and teacher, a patron and political practitioner of those approaches. And not only was yesterday’s column essentially written by Moynihan for 30 years, but Jim’s commentary would not have come as news even in 1967 to as distracted a politician as Adam Clayton Powell.

Having said that, I agree with you about MySpacing and think that your proposed ban on links is an excellent idea. I suppose it should be respected, though, as something like a tradition that Saturday remain the slow day on which to put out flare-ups of embers remaining from the brushfires set by Jim earlier in the week. But I’ll defer to you on that matter, as I do on, among other things, matters economic.

By WFC

January 27, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY’S MOTTO: “I’ve got mine, to h*ll with you.”

By @@

January 27, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

Not true WFC.

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY’S MOTTO:

“I’ve got mine, and here’s how you…..

Get it?

By @@

January 27, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

Oops!

….”

By GaVoter

January 27, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

I have always found that the good thing about reading between the lines is that the content is always most satisfying to the reader.

By Glenn

January 27, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

In the wee hours this morning Sen. Obama said that the notion that the wealthy do not care about the poor in this country is a fallacy; that it is a wedgie, divide-and-conquer bogie conjured every other year by opportunistic politicians heedless of the damage it does to the country.

By @@

January 27, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

WFC:

I’m limited on time, so my lessons learned will come in bits & pieces:

If you’ll follow the conservatives’ lead then you, too can become a taxpayer who contributes to those who are struggling. The idea is to increase the numbers of those who can contribute and diminish the numbers of those who can’t.

It’s the attitude and determination to achieve—not through government intervention, but through individual aspirations.

“The Little Engine That Could”

I think I can…I think I can…I think I can….

Put your steam to good use WFC.

By Craig

January 27, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

good one, John in Tampa.

You’re right, Glenn. Look at Warren Buffett - many wealthy people care a lot. Dem politicians sometimes love to attack the rich. On the other hand, Republicans like to paint rich people as uniformly honest and good and virtuous, just because they’re rich - ever listen to Boortz?

A pox on both their houses.

By @@

January 27, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

Last “bit” WFC:

It takes less effort to complain, and the waiting? well……

The caboose can’t move until the engine builds up steam.

Don’t be “a caboose” WFC.

By Luckoduh

January 27, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Yeah, “inevitable.”

1) An 8 point loss in Iowa, a state that is 97% white.

2) Only a 2 point win in New Hampshire, even after thousands of bigots were trucked in from Taxxachusetts.

3) A ridiculous win, defeating obscure candidate Un Committed by 54% to 40%.

3) A 6 point win in Nevada, a state that is 4.5% black.

4) An absolute old fashioned as-s stomping defeat in South Carolina by a whopping 28 points, even after the Klanners rallied their measly band of Confederate state bigots.

This is inevitable?

Ah…..ha….uh,snicker…ha…Bwahahahaha.

Yeah, right.

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{{{{In the Democrats’ case, the full-throttle emergence of Billary, the joint Clinton candidacy, is measured mainly within the narrow confines of the short-term horse race: Do Bill Clinton’s red-faced eruptions and fact-challenged rants enhance or diminish his wife as a woman and a candidate?}}}}

{{{{Up until this moment, Hillary has successfully deflected rough questions about Bill by saying, “I’m running on my own” or, as she snapped at Barack Obama in the last debate, “Well, I’m here; he’s not.” This sleight of hand became officially inoperative once her husband became a co-candidate, even to the point of taking over entirely when she vacated South Carolina last week.}}}}

{{{{Asked by Tim Russert at a September debate whether the Clinton presidential library and foundation would disclose the identities of its donors during the campaign, Mrs. Clinton said it wasn’t up to her. “What’s your recommendation?” Mr. Russert countered. Mrs. Clinton replied: “Well, I don’t talk about my private conversations with my husband, but I’m sure he’d be happy to consider that.”}}}}

{{{{Not so happy, as it turns out. The names still have not been made public.}}}}

{{{{Just before the holidays, investigative reporters at both The Washington Post and The New York Times tried to find out why, with no help from the Clintons. The Post uncovered a plethora of foreign contributors, led by Saudi Arabia. The Times found an overlap between library benefactors and Hillary Clinton campaign donors, some of whom might have an agenda with a new Clinton administration. (Much as one early library supporter, Marc Rich’s ex-wife, Denise, had an agenda with the last one.) “The vast scale of these secret fund-raising operations presents enormous opportunities for abuse,” said Representative Henry Waxman, the California Democrat whose legislation to force disclosure passed overwhelmingly in the House but remains stalled in the Senate.}}}}

{{{{The credibility of a major Clinton campaign plank, health care, depends on it. In that same debate, Mrs. Clinton told Mr. Russert that “all of the records, as far as I know, about what we did with health care” are “already available.” As Michael Isikoff of Newsweek reported weeks later, this is a bit off; he found that 3,022,030 health care documents were still held hostage. Whatever the pace of the processing, the gatekeeper charged with approving each document’s release is the longtime Clinton loyalist Bruce Lindsey.}}}}

{{{{If Mr. Obama doesn’t fight, no one else will. Few national Democratic leaders have the courage to stand up to the Clintons. Even in defeat, Mr. Obama may at least help wake up a party slipping into denial. Any Democrat who seriously thinks that Bill will fade away if Hillary wins the nomination — let alone that the Clintons will escape being fully vetted — is a Democrat who, as the man said, believes in fairy tales.-Frank Rich, Treason Times}}}}

Bwa.

By TW

January 27, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

The trouble with a motto for the GOP is that they were given the keys and a full tank of gas in 2008 and in eight years we’ve basically watched them put the ride into the wall multiple times without ever finishing a lap.

Nothing makes a pre-game speech look more ridiculous that getting blown out.

While the 2000 complacency provided a nice crop of idiots unto which the likes of @@ could sell her snake-oil, times are different now. God help the GOP should the trailer trash start having a hard time scrounging up coin for the cable bill…and those times are near.

It won’t start back up until it bottoms out. Let it go, @@. Let it go and live to play another day.

It’s over.

By Political Foreskin

January 27, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Hillary’s writers are letting her down. Last year, Hillary said that if an opponent attacks you, you have to knock them down quickly. Her campaign is being run by a Pavlovian attack dog. She set the table for this feasting early on, and voters dont like a female dog. Except for that reflective heeling in New Hampshire, Hillary hears only the dinner bell. Bill seems to be the pointer in this duck hunt.

It took a while for the idea to grasp black america, most didn’t believe it, but now this idea is a tide. Obama. Can you feel the hope that is circulating in this country right now, and hear the sermons on this mild sunday morning: Justice will prevail in this great country after all.

Page 7 in the AJC shows selected farewell addresses from departing POTUS’s. Washington talked about preserving the “virtue and happiness of the people” and he defined government in terms of “the protection of their liberties”. Truman talked about the great issues, “human rights, prosperity, and above all, peace”.

Peace. Where is peace? We started a war like we were the nazis. There is no way Truman would have invaded Iraq. Iraq is an unjust war. We are going to suffer all the righteously-due consequences that any warring nation must suffer when it measures success of an invasion by how many hot dog stands the collateral damage can construct in a police state. Oh, we’re winning now. Any progress Iraq makes is a sitting duck for the invisible army of weekend terrorists (forced underground) who could rise up and ignite catastrophies at any point on the Iraqi rebound cycle.

When the huns invaded europe, after they conquered everyone, they simply went home. After a while, pillaging and plundering gets old and you simply miss the shephard’s pie your nanna served. Even Attilla simply went home. We cant do that. We are trapped in Iraq. Trapped against our will by the fly paper of inherent and inherited responsibility.( If Saddam was Iraq’s evil stepfather, then we are the adoptive parents). We know exactly what will happen if we leave: chaos in the middle east. Our national security will be toast. The future would be totally unpredictable. We can never leave Iraq. The cost of occupation will grow geometrically with the stakes, which will soon be China’s oil hoarding. China is going to pollute the atmosphere a hundred times worse than we ever did. We’re going to get unbelievably beautiful sunsets, and affordable, chinese-made oxygen tents.

The stepchildren of Unjust war is calamity: This is the Bush legacy. Listen carefully to his candycane farewell address, the writers are going to spin this as not just mission accomplished, (and a lot of hard work ahead), but as the vainglorious crescendo of the epitomy of patriotic splendor that our furher has becomenheimer. If you can listen to it without smoke coming out of your ears, then you’re a log cabin.

This piece stinks really bad. I mean, whoa. what was I thinking?

By Blue Blood

January 27, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

It’s true. As Americans, we all strive to want more, to be more.

As seen in this campaign, the dems will give us more.

More of what?

Obama is the candidate of change.

I’d like to get him on that new show where they hook you up to the polygraph and play “true or dare”.

Better yet, maybe let Hillary play PS2-Monday Morning Quarterback ‘03 and see if she figured out how to run the 86 slot left slant post on three (touchdown every time).

McCain will be your next president. (sorry)

By ???????

January 27, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

China is going to pollute the atmosphere a hundred times worse than we ever did.

then why are the leftists buying into the costly global warming hysterics? It’s a waste of energy if’n you know what I mean. Lots of poor countries are tapping into newly discovered oil fields to pull themselves out of poverty. Why isn’t the U.S. tapping into ours?

Because Gore is going to make a killing on the green.

By Tireseus

January 27, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Yes. I see McCain in your future.

And Harry Truman’s spirit hath spoken unto me, saying: “Hell no, I wouldn’a gone into Eye-raq. I’da bombed the hell out of ‘em the first time they shot at one of our planes enforcing the no-fly zone. Then I’da sent Kermit in to give old Saddem the what-for.”

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

Every time I start drifting into the abyss where I think I might actually be able to hold my nose long enough to vote for McShamnesty, along comes an appearance on Meet The Depressed. For that I’m thankful.

I urge any of my fellow conservatives that think they might be willing to support this opportunistic windbag to watch this or read a transcript when it becomes available.

By Political Foreskin

January 27, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

TW: do you think Bush will thank his pit crew in his victory speech monday night. Will he wear his NAPA cap and have a coke bottle in his hand as he mentions the sponsors who helped him become the excellent driver he is? Will the Bush Twins come out in bikinis and pose for after photos? Iknow-yougetthebit…

By Political Foreskin

January 27, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

Someone look this up: Did chicken little profit when the sky was falling? Is Gore selling pie in the sky? (or is pi a mathematical construct proving global warming?)

RW: oh, you’ve drifted.

Obama: If you make it to that tuesday in november, the voters are going to potus your blackass, and then justice will have come full circle in this country. From lincoln’s mouth to your ears, sir. But if you want my vote, Obama, sir, you’re going to have to stop telling people that we can withdraw from Iraq. Sure, we all want to cut and run, but Bush has ensured that we cant. We are trapped, and you have to come clean. The first candidate that admits that our army is trapped against it’s will gets my vote. (I might even tatoo my voter ID on my whiteass and moon the GOP operatives trolling the polls).

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

55% to 27% … OUCH!

Where’s getalife this morning?

By Glenn

January 27, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Well apropos RW’s noble obstinacy, how ‘bout that Jim Wooten and his simultaneously defeatest and wishful cave-in to his Inner Liberal. That little slick willie on his left shoulder’s been whispering sweet nothings in his ear again. This time it says, “Psssst. Jim-boy, even with Richard Simmons we can’t beat the bloat, so learn to love big gubmint. Just think of all those Dem-built multibillion train sets you can play with!” What fun for Jim!

I got news for you, Mr. Newsman. Next to the good old military-industrial complex, the biggest train set in the country is the public school system, and there is no way that any other than a Democrat or one of the NEA’s back-alley rent boys such as Mike Huckabee is going to stand by while whole cohorts of American children get brainfornicated while you gradualists work out your grand scheme. Horsesh!t.

Either conservatives believe their rhetoric or they don’t. Those of us who do will leave you and Jimmah to your malaise and show this country a better way than the Democratic Party’s seriously unfunny More Model, which is not stuck-on-stupid, it’s Stuck on Devastating.

There aren’t any Democrat leaders left who know a thing about business unless they’re married into it. The party that has the business sense in this country IS going to show the Republic’s stockholders that there is a far better alternatives than the DNC’s nothing-with-more or your more-with-the-same.

As the Boomers continue to worry about themselves like even they heretofore never have done, the only party capable of seeing government as other than a giant he-teet on a boar will, in spite of you, finally construe our budget-breaking social services as just that: services requiring delivery. Once that crucial distinction is made, it will be possible to go over the heads of the DNC to show the People far more effective, more modern and efficient delivery systems than those upon which the Dem-dole depends.

Meanwhile, by the next election cycle you will have become indistinguishable from the party flacks who sit with you around the editorial table. Get out of the way.

By Political Foreskin

January 27, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

Proof of a God: Hitler’s doctor poisoned him with strychnine, cocaine, and amphetimines during the war. He was a quack who had won the job of der fuhrer’s personal physician when he cured Hilter’s eczema in 1936. Hitler suffered from flatulence his whole life. Everytime he ate something, it was mustard gas… Gain elevation….. Every man for himself! (true).

Hitler’s doctor was captured and water-boarded after the war, so we can be sure that he still loved his fuhrer, and did not poison him on purpose, but only through incompetence and ignorance about the remedies for bodily gas. (fact, jack).

This is proof of a God to me. Many critical battle outcomes were the direct result of the poisoning of der furher by his doctor, who wanted only to end Hitler’s flatulence. He truly worshipped him. He was a loyal nazi who thought hitler was a god.

Want to know more about this? Google Dr. Theo Morell.

Okay, notice how I didn’t torture anyone with a link?

‘muff said

By Tireseus

January 27, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

After giving a two-hour speech in the boiling sun, President Zachary Taylor attempted to cool off with a pitcher of milk and a bowl of chilled cucumbers. The resultant indigestion drove the aging and corpulent orator to the presidential sickbed, whereupon White House doctors fed him full of ipecac, quinine and calomel, and bled and blistered him until he died.

Any resemblance to historic Democratic stewardship of the nation’s broken bureaucracies is purely coincidental.

By getalife

January 27, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

A major thumpin.

At least President Clinton has toned it down so the corporate media should stop covering him like he is the candidate.

She is still leading in superdelegates and the big one is coming and should be fun.

Congrats to Obama.

By Political Foreskin

January 27, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

“any resemblence to historic democratic stewardship of the nations broken bureaucracies is purely coincidental”. (napoleon dynamite asks if chickens have sharp talons)

Son, i have no idea what you just said. Try editing.

By Democrat National Kommittee

January 27, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

Uh, we have a very special announcement from the Klan High Priestess Herself, let’s give a big round of applause to Misses Ku Klux Rodham Klinton:

“Thank ya, thank ya, good klanners of Gawjuh. Eyes comes to year fine state tooday tu explains exactly wat is at stake in dis cumin elecshun. It seams as dough dem ignernt peoples in Sout Carolinah didn’t undurstands what Billy Klux waz tryen to tells dem. Let’s me gives y’all a gud exampul, lookie here at dis here bueteefal field and just imagun it bein filled up wit peoples likes Jesse Jackson. Can you imagun wat it wood be likes to haves all kinds of Jesse Jacksons runnin every war? Dats wat will happens if yous votes for that Muslim tarrarist Obama the crack dealer. Dare wood be Jesse Jacksons lookin in yer winders, Jesse Jacksons I ballin year womens and kids, Jesse Jacksons wood be teelins y’all wat to do. Do yous want a Gubmint like dat? I donts nose about yu but I comes too faaarrrrrrr”

At this point, the speech is interrupted by a couple of hagglers:

Hagglers: “Folds my underwar. Folds my underwar.”

Rodham Klinton: “Sees, dis is exactlee wat eyes talkin bout, a votes for dat Muslim tarrarist is a votes for uppreshun. Eyes gits sews tared of uppreshun, its just so hard.”

The audience looks on with horror as Rodham Klinton tries to cry but can’t!

Rodham Klinton: “Yous, comes over hear and pinch mys as-s real hard, that’ll git da tars flowin. Now, as eye was sayin…”

We leave the rally in progress to join our regularly scheduled hate festival in progress.

Seig Heil!

By Vandstra

January 27, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

Are you all still talking? It is the weekend. Get out and enjoy the sunshine.

By TW is Chicken Little

January 27, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

If either of the major political parties is racing toward destruction I would nominate the Democrats.

Racial backbiting, dirty campaigning, slurs of all kinds and that is just between Hillary and Bill.

When Barack joins the mess just becomes more nasty.

By Tireseus

January 27, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

Not “son”; Father. Try literacy.

By more cushin for the pushin

January 27, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

“At least President Clinton has toned it down so the corporate media should stop covering him like he is the candidate.”

Nice candor getaknife, but was not you and yours that proudly proclaim Clintons ‘08?

By Tireseus

January 27, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Not “son”; Father. Try literacy.

By Luckoduh

January 27, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

al-Gitmo: Not to pile on or anything but if this is what you libs call “inevitable” then it looks like Fred Thompson still has a pretty good chance.

Hahhahahhhhahahah.

By getalife

January 27, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

I doubt even the Clintons can repair the damage w and the gop have caused to our country.

This will take decades and it will be up to the future generations to take drastic measures. The me generation is too worried about themselves and their ignorant mindsets.

There is legal bribery with lobbyists, stolen freedoms thousands have died for, executive privilege for breaking the law, bankrupt economy, etc… Yes, the list is long.

One thing I know for sure, the gop will never fix it. They caused it and it is insane to vote for them, thinking they will fix it.

The gop should go the way of the whig party to fix this country.

By @@

January 27, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

TW @ 9:46:

God help the GOP should the trailer trash start having a hard time scrounging up coin for the cable bill…and those times are near.

“Trailer trash”—I’ve never quite understood what you liberals are implying when you turn that phrase.

Don’t less fortunate people live in trailers?

Tell me TW….what is it you think you know about my financial situation? You may be surprised to know that some of the best times I can recall were when we were struggling financially. I’ve always seen it as a challenge….”How can I save?”

Just recently my husband’s company cut salaries by 15%. The reason why was because a small group of employees filed a lawsuit (sounds like a union doesn’t it?) against the company. The lawyers (Jackpot Johnny Edwards types) made out big time. Some employees made out O.K.

Thousands upon thousands of employees within certain job classifications were forced to suffer a pay cut so that the company could afford to remain competitive while continuing to employ over 300,000 individuals.

Don’t you worry none though—we have options.

My husband can find another job, which he doesn’t plan on doing or….

We can do some comparative shopping on our utilities…eliminate some non-essentials…conserve on gas…EVEN….and get this FOREGO OUR CABLE T.V.

We CAN DO IT!!! but you liberals want government to grow in excess.

I just don’t get you leftists.

Exactly how much of your money do you want them to waste in controlling your future?

Just so you know….

my husband and I R Middle America.

By getalife

January 27, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Mmm, where have I heard this unity crap before:

“To make this nation stronger and better, I will need your support and I will work for it,” Bush said. “A new term is a new opportunity to reach out to others. We have one nation, one constitution that binds. When we come together, work together, there’s no limit to what we can do as a nation.”

Ah, w spewed the same crap.

By preparation h

January 27, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

you complete me getalife.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Yes by all means let’s get out there and “fix” global warming.

From the faq’s of an Alaskan crab fishing boat. First we have the whiny lib trying to ask the question so that they can try to find a tiny shred of change they can use to claim the world is quickly coming to an end.

Johnathan said on the live chat that he didn’t see any “global warming”. I am wondering, hasn’t the location of crab changed in last ten years? Have the waters started warming up or the ice flows changed? Has the crab size changed or the type of bait they prefer changed?

Now the answer from the boat captain that spends six months a year fishing in the Bering Sea.

.We have not noticed any changes. Everything regarding fishing has remainded the same.

By @@

January 27, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Hey Getalife, let’s you and I come together.

I can show you how to prepare dried beans (an excellent source of protein).

Those ^^^ with a vegetable stir-fry and a whole-grain wheat roll is an inexpensive, and very healthy meal. It’ll keep you fit as a fiddle and cut down on healthcare costs.

Couple that with a daily four-mile run and we’re good to go.

Save your dollars Getalife—no more booze, cigars and G-string deposits.

Life is good.

By @@

January 27, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

I forget Getalife…am I paying for your weed? I’d rather not do that cause I’ve heard that it inhibits a person’s incentive. If it’s for physical pain, I’ll continue to contribute.

Is it for physical pain or mental anguish? cause if it’s mental anguish, yours seems to be chronic and self-inflicted.

By TW

January 27, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Chicken Little? Oh, that’s right - the sky never falls inside the glass castle, home to the god of mammon and his army of Convenient Christians…speaking of which…

@@ - re: definition of trailer trash - look for bush/cheney stickers, or better yet, take a gander through your photo albums.

By getalife

January 27, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

@@,

No thanks.

You will buy my weed, whether you like it or not.

Check please.

rudy drops out after Florida.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I can’t wait to see how well that superdelagate strategy works out for you.

I’m sure when people across the country vote for Obama and you run Hillary anyway you’re going to get people falling all over each other to vote for her in November. /sarc

By casa blanca

January 27, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

quit bogarting getalife

share the wealth (with the taliban)

By getalife

January 27, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

There ya go again, underestimating the Clinton machine.

Let’s wait till after super Tuesday.

Mkay?

By OneForTheRoad

January 27, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

Jim,

I just have to pick on you for your editorial today. You left off the standard disclaimer at the end of the message:

“I’m Mitt Romney and I approve this message”.

I wonder though. If Huckabee had been the candidate in the race with the most money, would you have endorsed him instead? Come on, tell us the truth now. The following excerpt from your Mitt praise was most telling:

“I just don’t think that it’s ever been successful to play against the employer,” Romney said in a phone interview with the AJC editorial board. “I don’t think you help the wage-earner by attacking the wage-payer and I just don’t think it settles well with Republican voters” — a point also made by Sadie Fields, who chairs the Georgia Christian Alliance. “There’s nothing wrong with making money,” she said. “People who make money typically tend to know how to help you keep more of your money,” she said.

Surely your focus here was on the candidate’s ability to “make” campaign money. Right? Otherwise, you might just as well try to put someone like Creflo on the ticket. Now there’s a Christian that knows how to “make” money. And, there’s nothing “wrong” with “making” money. Or is there?

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

Geez getalife,

Yesterday you said the voting doesn’t matter and now you want to wait for it.

This is almost as bad as the way you dumped Obama for Cankles right after New Hamster.

By Dusty

January 27, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Dear @@,

I like your ideas on being frugal. It goes right along with Jim Wooten’s idea of taking care of yourself, not waiting for somebody else to do it.

I just read that Warren Buffet, one of the richest Americans, still lives in a house he bought for $31,000. How about that? Now he donates to charities 30 billion dollars. Oh those greedy rich people (some say).

Here are others who give generously.

In 2006, Cheney donated $6,869,655.

In 1999, Bill Gates contributed 7.1 BILLION to charitable foundations.

These are Americans who did it on their own. Just shows what can be done. In reference to Wooten’s statement about not depending on the mailbox, I doubt that any of these wealthy and generous people “waited at the mailbox” for the government or anybody else to “maintain” them with a check.

By Glenn

January 27, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

On-fer Roadie,

Guess that Romney comment answer’s yesterday’s questions about the loaded term “corporate welfare”. What’s good for Wal-Mart is good for Chi—-ah, America, etc.

@@,

You’re wonderful. You & your husband both. She’s also the Goddess of Triumph. [End of MySpace moment.]

RW-(t.o.),

If you don’t agree to get out there and fix global warming, then you’re depriving a certain liberal elite of the right bestowed upon her by grace of her Seven Sister Sheepskin to tell you exactly how to live the rest of your life, both waking and sleeping. Why would you do such a cruel thing?

Isn’t it mean enough that some of us don’t want the needy to wait around while Jim Wooten weans himself from counterproductive Liberalism?

By getalife

January 27, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Who do you think can clean up w’s mess RW?

By Glenn

January 27, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Give it up. The folks here say you should give up. Wooten says so. And he’s walking his defeatest talk. Wooten! So it’s time for you to give up, Dusty.

Learn to like model trains with millions of other people’s needy little doll figures riding on them. Think of the fun you’ll have with model rayroadin’ when you become a Junior Liberal like Jim!

It doesn’t matter that the trestles are rotted and the roadbed washed out and the rails warped, Dusty. It doesn’t matter that the cattle cars are bolted and airless and jammed to standing. The important thing is that the train makes no return trip. And that’s OK, because we’ll put the little N-gauge doll figures to work. That’s right, Work will Make them Free, free as the wooden boy Pinocchio!

Just be patient, Dusty. It’s the worldly way to be.

By conga line

January 27, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

everything evolves and devolves in cycles. never mind the real line.

the cycle is present in everything you can sense.

including politcs, evolution, revolution, economy, man.

listen and learn my fellow dems.

i prefer the Harley.

By Tireseus

January 27, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

That would be the Myth of the Eternal Return, the cosmology of Pagans, and of Nietschean neo-Pagans.

By Luckoduh

January 27, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife January 27, 2008 2:32 PM There ya go again, underestimating the Clinton machine.}}}}

Ahh, yes, the Mighty Klintoon Kampaign, a totally “unstoppable” force that knows all the right things to say and currently has it’s Kandidate mired in a very underwhelming second place.

You got them right where you want them, eh?

al-Gitmo: The closest pre SC election poll was off by more than fifteen points and they were trending in the wrong direction.

I have a couple of scenarios, first, how many libs from Zogby do you reckon drove up into the hood and started knocking on doors?

And second, just imagine for a moment, Buford out in Tennessee, sitting round the table with his drinking buddies when some pinko from PMSNBC comes walking up and asks him which lib he likes the best. You think he might say “I’m gunna votes fer the black man.” But once in the booth, secluded in privacy, maybe Buford is thinking how much Ku Klux Rodham reminds him of his first wife.

Eeeeewwwww.

Something is going on here, big time, who knows, maybe the libs have only been polling angry old white bloggers?

It seems to me that aaallloooooottttt of white folks are either voting for the black guy or……against the white trash.

Bwa.

By Dusty

January 27, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Glenn@3:44

Give up what? You seem to have a problem but I don’t know what it is. Maybe you should play with model trains.

By getalife

January 27, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

racist rant much duh?

By Glenn

January 27, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

Give up trying to beat the bureaucratic bloat. Jim’s lesson du jour: if W can’t do it, nobody can. If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em. Become their enabler.

By Dusty

January 27, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

If you want to be a liberal Democrat, go for it. The subject de jour is more interesting.

By getalife

January 27, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Yes, Jim and his ilk do not give a damn about Americans but to make it in intellectual honest argument, they should end Iraqi, corporate and the nation building welfare, before sending Americans on the streets to increase crime.

By GimmeAbreak

January 27, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

The Heritage Foundation Jim? LMAO! Why not just ask Lou Dobbs or Rush Limbaugh?

By profit

January 27, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

I have to agree with Woodenhead and the AJC, Romney is the best choice in a BAD GOP field. I recall during my sons high school days, he had to write a term paper, comparing Adolf Hitler with Joseph Stalin for most Evil and Destructive. I thought is was a stupid topic, but he did a really good job on the paper, and choose Stalin as the most evil and destructive, based on his killing of so many more of his own Russian countrymen than Hitler killed of Germans. Both killed foreign enemies with abandon, but only Stalin murdered his own people in vast numbers. Sure, Hilter killed the jews, but they were never his people, even though there is strong evidence that jewish blood flowed thru Hitler’s veins. In a similar vein, McCain is a worse choice than Romney because McCain will continue the war of exterminate against Arabs that the Neocons began some seven years ago, and that was planned in Tele Aviv by Wolfie, Pearlie, Libbie, and Feithie more than ten years ago.

By Dave

January 27, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Dayuuuummmm!!! Going to be McCain vs Obama! Either way the country wins and all you right wing racist, bigoted, nativist, xenophobic right wing trash lose! Isn’t America a great country folks?

By getalife

January 27, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

Screw the economy, McInsane wants to borrow for more wars:

McCain Warns: “There Will Be Other Wars”

By Dave

January 27, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

You got it getalife. A war against right wing garbage. It’s way past time to rid this nation of that stinking cesspool of human excrement.

By Luckoduh

January 27, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

{{{{Ku Klux Rodham also portrayed her husband as a historic figure of inclusion, who united Americans, despite assessments by some historians that his White House tenure was a time of hyper-partisanship and boiling political anger.}}}}

Geez, I wonder what kind of dimwit would believe some make believe BS like that?

Oops, I forgot al-Gitmo was here, sorry about that, man.

{{{{Ku Klux then admitted Sunday her husband Bill’s hard-charging campaign tactics had gone overboard, but chalked the ex-president’s fiery broadsides up to love and a chronic lack of sleep.}}}}

You too can be a red faced hate spewing bigot, as long as you have an army of racist toadies that spew wild excuses for you, you hear that Trent Lott, shoulda told them you were tired.

What a bunch of repulsive, silly simpletons liberals really are.

Sick.

By ray

January 27, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

MCCAIN/SATAN ‘08

BRING BACK THE DRAFT

FINISH THE DRILL!

By Luckoduh

January 27, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

{{{{What was not anticipated was a blowout loss. What was not anticipated was a wholesale rejection of Bill KKKlinton—68% of people in the exit polls, if I did my addition right, thought Bill KKKlinton’s presence was either very or fairly important in the campaign. (Sometimes you wish the damn pollsters would just ask the next question: You think that was a good thing? My guess is, they didn’t.)}}}}

{{{{Obama struck precisely the right note in his victory speech, skewering the KKKlintons without naming them. And it seems to me that when he says that the election is contest between “the past and the future,” he is describing a situation that becomes truer every day, as the KKKlintons’ vestigial political virtuosity becomes more creaky and transparent, and just seems out-of-date and distasteful in a party that may want to turn the page on all that.Joe Klein, Time Ragzine}}}}

Bwa.

By Glenn

January 27, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

You don’t get it. You and I are not the surrender monkeys; Jim is:

“Trends favor Democrats. A party that offers smaller government appeals to Reaganites, but it cannot sustain a majority by making grand efforts to whittle away at programs, only to see Democrats restored to power on the power to expand them.”

Just think of all the damage that will be done by business-as-usual government while pseudo-conservatives like Jim fiddle.

By Dusty

January 27, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

Glenn,

I think you misinterpret Wooten’s words. He is saying that there is a trend that Americans want more and more instead of less from the government. That the tax paying support base is also getting smaller to pay for all those services.

Then he explains conservatives et al should try to cut back. People should not ask for more but “suck it up” but they don’t want to hear that.

Then he adds that whatever cuts conservatives make, liberals get rid of them as soon as they get power.

I don’t think that is surrender. That is what is happening.

By A Proud American Citizen

January 28, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this

Jim, It’s hard to wean Americans off of dependency when the republican “limited” government model puts them into bankrupsy. Lack of oversight and a corruptable mentality of every man for himself has lead to the current mortgage crisis. We have “free” trade agreements that are effectively exporting jobs in mass and importing the needy from south of the border.

Actually, there are sooooo many items that need fixing as a result of uthetered big business I can’t numerate them here. Fact is, I was a proud republican, now I’m a Democrat.

By A Proud American Citizen

January 28, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

Jim, It’s hard to wean Americans off of dependency when the republican “limited” government model puts them into bankrupsy. Lack of oversight and a corruptable mentality of every man for himself has lead to the current mortgage crisis. We have “free” trade agreements that are effectively exporting jobs in mass and importing the needy from south of the border.

Actually, there are sooooo many items that need fixing as a result of uthetered big business I can’t numerate them here. Fact is, I was a proud republican, now I’m a Democrat.

By Glenn

January 28, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

Yes, but I’m trying to say that Jim’s “common sense conservatism” is to surrender to what’s happening, and to announce to the unworldly People that that is what sad experience teaches us to do. That’s Carterism. Reagan showed that it need not be so.

The reason why the conservatives’ cuts don’t work is because they are mere cuts. They do nothing to change the structure of delivery. Conservatives who believe what they say, especially about their compassion, will demand nothing less than actual restructuring—-a transformation of the social services to make them both better and cheaper. When we do that, we’ll get the votes, and the DNC will be as helpless to do anything about it as the DNC was when Reagan ran away with their blue-collar Midwesterners.

Privitization can be a good thing, but it is not restructuring. Eight years ago we were the party of restructuring. Now we’re the party of defeatism?

If one of our people beats Clinton (likely) or Obama (not), then we will have one last shot at getting real about government. Otherwise we’re Whigs for the foreseeable future, and possibly once and for all. Because Jim’s route is actually liberalism. He’s just unaware that it is so.

By Glenn

January 28, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

Proud American Citizen, I don’t blame you.

By Phil H

January 28, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

The example I like for Big Government is our lovely Sex Offender Registries. These are something that would be okay if they were only worthless, but they are much worse than that. They give us nearly nothing of significant value and yet cost so much (of so many different things in so many different ways). Worst of all, they actually have the opposite effect of their supposed goal - which is to increase public safety (That is the lie that their proponents are still trying to give, isn’t it?).

It is very easy for a parent to protect his/her children from sexual abuse. It’s called learning some facts and being responsible. But no!! We want our totally competent government to hand us a list of just the bad guys so we don’t have to do any work. If we shun the people on their list, then we won’t have much to worry about.

This is what I would love to see - I would love to see the people who want these things to pay for them. As one of the top 5% of taxpayers in this country, I am tired of paying for your worthless BS.

Oh yeah, BTW, the brilliant Georgia Legislators are working on some more of this worthless stuff right now. It’s HB 908 and it will result in lawsuits and useless arrests from the second it becomes law (and it will never stop and you and I will never stop paying for it).

By ISHMAel back

February 8, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

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