Thinking Right

By Shark Sammich

January 25, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this

Jim, next time you’re tempted to smear everyone to the left of you by beginning a sentence with “Liberals are always…”?

Don’t.

Try it sometime, won’t you? There’s a good lad.

By jbmlaw

January 25, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

If Heath Ledger had lived, he would still be just another Hollywood dope addict, a mere Joker with a sinister grin.

I’ll accept the “secret marriage” at face value, without offering my sarcastic speculations on reasons. And I congratulate them on embracing a noble institution, and pledging their futures to each other. So many today do not.

Nut cases in the Georgia legislature? Say it isn’t so. Re: the sly humor at the end of the note, “unbelievable.” And this fellow was appointed by the government, as smart enough to indoctrinate the next generation?

I have mixed feelings about Shirley’s commentary. It was rude. It was also a well-deserved shot. I could never imagine myself saying something hurtful. (Tell Shar to quit laughing, it’s rude.)

I don’t know a thing about the Loudermilk Foundation, but I respect any entity that is willing to test unusual ideas to tackle intractable problems.

Syed was surely watching the Padilla case. It is hard to imagine his innocence; nobody smart enough to get into GaTech could be so deaf to the times we live in.

On the Mike Jacobs note, does anyone know whether the purchasing agents were fired? And why not? And if we are not going to tar and feather them, surely we can put them on a blacklist to prevent them from becoming effective lobbyists.

State History Museum? $26,000,000 sounds like a heck of a lot of money to turn an extant building into a display case that nobody will ever bother to go see. Does that include acquisition cost? Could this be built cheaper at Macon or Athens? As Ev Dirksen said, “A billion here, and a billion there, and pretty soon you’re talking real money.” That is just as true on the state scale.

The tax rebate is an incredibly stupid proposed “resolution” for an economy with strong consumer spending. I cannot imagine anything less likely to cure the real problem, the withering dollar. I also cannot imagine anything the Washington porkers are more likely to agree on. For the record, it is a bank and finance panic, not an economic collapse. The real economy is doing just fine, the money debasement notwithstanding.

“Liberals are always brilliant after-the-fact. They won the war in Iraq that way, too.” I thought they were still saying we lost the war in Iraq. It’s like the tension between global warming and the coming ice age – the leftists are fickle and hedge their bets.

By jbmlaw

January 25, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this

I forgot to wish everyone a good morning. Coffee has not kicked in.

By candide

January 25, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

I don’t take the State Legislature seriously. When I think of several hundred rednecks pretending to run the state of Georgia — well, I sometimes wish for the return of Federal troops!

By Sure, why not

January 25, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

Much as I hate to support anything Sonny “Personal Tax Cut Liar” Puredoo proposes, I think the history museum at the old World of Coke building is a good idea. Tennessee has a nice museum across the street from its legislative office building.

By Camus

January 25, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this

Sigh. Continuing from yesterday, as I did not keep a comment box open for an after hours post, as did…

Glenn,

I agree that all politicians embellish the resumes in the course of the campaigns. Big deal, no problem. Gore did, Bush did, they all do it. Unremarkable. What is remarkable is the extent to which Gore’s alleged penchant for lying became a huge issue in the 2000 campaign, while Bush’s bullsh!t was dismissed as the offhand remarks of a likable guy. What is remarkable is the extent to which the press injected themselves into the comapaign based on personal likes and dislikes.

First point…The original Gore remark on Love Story came during a 2-hour interview with NY Times and Time magazine. Later on, the Time correspondent, had this to say: “It had truly, truly been an offhanded comment by Gore. And it suddenly turns into this big thing that probably continues to dog him for the rest of the campaign.” In short, it was a nothing remark, but the press corp intentionally distorted its importance…all in the service of the accepted storyline of the campaing. Bush is a good guy. Gore is a lying bore.

Second…Unlike your two posts which reference the Times of 12/14/97, I pulled unedited entire paragraphs to support my argument. You chose to pull snips of disconnected sentences. Then you pulled the wingnut trick of accusing me of committing your own transgression, in this case quoting out of context. This is how the game against Gore was played. You carry on a less than proud tradition.

I do not care to portray Gore as a saint or as that rare (extinct?) breed of politician who never exaggerates his/her own accomplishments and virtues. But it is less-than-serious for someone of your intelligence to carry these distortions as a gospel truth, and worse, to use them to somehow analyze “our former Vice President and a former U.S. Senator and Representative of considerable distinction” as somehow being “not well.” It is even worse that the fate of the presidential election turns upon such trivia.

By Camus

January 25, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

And before anyone accuses me of ignoring Wooten’s column today, I did read that laundry list of banality and find little of interest other than Jim’s inexplicable desire to spend $26 million (plus the inevitable cost overruns) on a Ga History Museum. Certainly the free market is a better source to fill this pressing need. Why deprive a bold capitalist from the chance to profit from this sizzling opportunity?

I’ll expect the answer when we hear about what a great idea it is to put SocSec funds into the financial markets.

By Redneck Convert

January 25, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

Well, Joe Bill was married in secret for two years oncet. He didn’t want his wife at the time to know, leastwise till he could get a divorce.

I’m awful happy I’m going to get a $600 check from the guvmint. I don’t know what Wooten and jbmlaw are carrying on about. Its free and all the guvmint has to do is fire up the press and print some more money. Heck, if I had a press and knowed how to do the job you would see this beer truck full of $100 bills and there would be a new double-wide and a Ford F-450 pickup with chrome wheels in front of it.

I wish they’d of paid kids to go to school back when I was young. Heck, if I’d of been making $8 an hour to go I might of learned them multiplying tables and went on to colledge. But things being what they are, I would probly of got five or six degrees and been a pointy-headed librul colledge teacher. Not all of us can go to colledge and never change a lick of thinking like jbmlaw done. You got to take your hat off to jbmlaw. He was a redneck before and a redneck after.

Have a good day everybody.

By Steve

January 25, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

Was Jim beaten up by liberals as a kid or something?

Our reality built by the conservatives is crashing down around us, and he’s blaming liberals for everything?

unbelievable.

By Road Scholar

January 25, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

While the idea of a State Archives library sounds good, what will the operating costs be, where do the funds come from, and what will be the admission charge? Know the facts before the bandwagon pulls away!

As to who supportED the war and when, I do not care. Remember, it was based on lies (regardless), and besides, I want to know what they WILL do so we can move forward, define an actual exit strategy,establish a consensus, and stop the physical and financial bleeding.

Since the repubs are in favor of all tax cuts, wake me up when taxes get to zero!

By Glenn

January 25, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

Good morning back.

And even unto the scumsucking prevaricating Frog, Camus.

(And speaking of the Devil), Camus:

I was not trying to smear Mr. Gore. I’ve stated many times that I think he was a smashing Senator, and thought so at the time, and told my employers so, and provided many analyses of his legislation, and expressed my hope that he would run for President, and pulled down some very good HPCC moneys on his account, and enjoyed spending some of them at a time when I was all but broke, and am forever after grateful to the man.

I reckoned, of course, that those of you ever conscious of a partisan divide would not believe that my interest in his confabulations is owing to a genuine concern for his health. Nonetheless that is my motive, and those close to me know how serious I am about it. A group of friends working to draft him as a candidate also knows that I would wish them instead to send a message of concern to Tipper.

I don’t know who some of those pundits you mentioned are, and I’m not at present a consumer of the wares of any of them. My sources of information are on the whole idiosyncratic if not eccentric, and they include more of my old Dem colleagues than Republicans. Most of us take your position (and Jefferson’s) that politicians are never to be trusted. Why you thought that I “trust” Giuliani I have no idea; I trust him only to be a law-and-order type—-I think that would be good—-and to implement the conservative principles he’s so ostentatiously convinced served him well in NYC. Other than that, a powerhound like all the rest.

As to the farrago concerning Gore-said/Gore-said, you had scolded me with the admonition that “the canard that Gore claimed to have invented the Internet and was the primary source for Love Story was never true and still is not true.” First of all, I think we agreed in passing that irrespective of any claims one way or the other, Gore did not invent the Internet, and he [and his relationship with Tipper, as that was what I’d first mentioned] was not “the primary source” of Segal’s work. OK.

Now, you and GaVoter quoted Gore as saying on national TV that while in Congress he had taken the initiative in creating the Internet. So what is it of which he said he initiated the creation? The Hula-Hoop? Is there something more than parodic afoot, then, in Jay Leno’s teasing Gore for his claim that he is the Father of the Internet? Is Karl Rove at work here, or Dick Armey?

As for Love Story, we both looked square into the screen of a New York Times story that makes it clear that while Gore did claim, per Time magazine, that he and Tipper were the “primary source” of Love Story, he later agreed with that book’s author that it was someone else who was the primary source, and that Tipper had nothing to do with it. Rove again? Gordon Liddy?

Look, call me a liar if you want to. I called you one. Yet I know that you’re interested in hearing what those with whom you disagree on public matters see as the truth of things. I’m the same way. It’s not uncommon. I don’t carry a brief for anyone. Moreover, I like it that way! For the first time in decades I can vote for whomever I like, and work for whichever candidate I choose, and I find it downright liberating. I can even speak my mind without robbing myself of the bread on my table. It’s great!

By GaVoter

January 25, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

I find a lot of the remarks from politicians and journalists alike to be quite entertaining. I even prefer their antics over the dribble of reality TV shows. I do wish however that I could more easily determine a candidate’s underlying philosophy on issues as well as their past accomplishments — devoid of hyperbole, that is. I guess if campaigns were so simplified, there would no longer be a “need” for the “campaigning industry”. An industry with a growth trajectory that is best described as the envy of wall street investors, listed and unlisted companies, Boards of Directors, company executives, etc. If government could only tap into those vast resources at will — Oh, the possibilities! Anyway, if anyone figures out a way to take this puppy public, sign me up for some that action.

By RCH

January 25, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

Giving a refund (tax) to those who pay no taxes is a travesty. Why call it a refund. Lets call it what it really is:Welfare. Politicians using our tax dollars to buy votes. Surprise, Surprise

By Camus

January 25, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

Final point on this, Glenn…

I posted what the original sources say. You post arguments purporting to be direct quotes, but instead distort these to say what you would like people to think the original sources said. I’ll stand by my approach as the more straightforward and reliable.

Go ahead, last word is yours.

By Evelyn Brethour

January 25, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

And while you are at it Rep. Jacobs, why don’t you also make it criminal for state and county employees to write off the assets/receivables of the government/we the people without the governing authorities official and public vote. We are being robbed blind (and sadly good government employees are expected to look the other way, say nothing or lose their jobs)

By jbmlaw

January 25, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

In an essay today mostly about the evil that is the Clintons, Peggy Noonan authored a few paragraphs that all conservatives ought to absorb:

“On the pundit civil wars, Rush Limbaugh declared on the radio this week, “I’m here to tell you, if either of these two guys [Mr. McCain or Mike Huckabee] get the nomination, it’s going to destroy the Republican Party. It’s going to change it forever, be the end of it!”

“This is absurd. George W. Bush destroyed the Republican Party, by which I mean he sundered it, broke its constituent pieces apart and set them against each other. He did this on spending, the size of government, war, the ability to prosecute war, immigration and other issues.

“Were there other causes? Yes, of course. But there was an immediate and essential cause.

“And this needs saying, because if you don’t know what broke the elephant you can’t put it together again. The party cannot re-find itself if it can’t trace back the moment at which it became lost. It cannot heal an illness whose origin is kept obscure.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120120952618514493.html

By jct

January 25, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

Paying kids to study is stupid. It does not matter if it is public money or private money. This is a value issue. The value is that education will allow you to reap the reward of higher salary. Learning to delay gratification will serve you better throughout your entire life.

Secret marriage…Janet Jackson was married in secret for 9 years unti she wanted a divorce. Does this count?

I like the idea of a state museum. I have visited many of the state museum’s around the nation while vacationing. I love Nevada’s the best. There is an underground mine in the basement.

This tax rebate just burns me. How much will it cost to send many the $300 - $250? What does this do to the deficit? Most the sheep in this nation won’t give that a second thought. We can always pay tomorrow…

By jbmlaw

January 25, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

Dear Redneck @ 8:36, I respectfully advise that you err. I qualify as a “neoconservative,” except that I am not Jewish. I was a wishy-washy flip-flopping “Save the Whales” moderate until exposed to four years of leftist indoctrination at my beloved Vanderbilt. When I saw the total value of my Keynesian education evaporate in 18 months after college, I discovered the way of the truth (Hayek, Mises, Friedman.) When the theories worked under Reagan, after the strict Carterian application of Keynesianism, my new awareness hardened. (And just as an application of Keynesianism did not work in 1978, it will not work in 2008.)

By Glenn

January 25, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

And Camus, I didn’t keep a box open, though sometimes I do. I’d posted it at the wire, after returning from errand-running. The server was very messed up yesterday, and ate three of my posts at various times, posts addressed to you, to TW, to jbm, to GaVoter.

By hdd3

January 25, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

Considering the federal government’s wasteful spending practices, I am glad to be getting some of my hard earned money back in the form of a rebate. However, I don’t think the rebates will act as an economic stimulus. As for me, I will deposit the money in my kid’s college fund accts.

By Peter

January 25, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

Yup after 7 years of Bush power and all his causes, seems like we are ready to go into a recession.

Never mind the huge debt, and stimulus program that will ADD to that debt.

Let’s blame all on the Liberals, cause they were not in charge! They had no idea as what to do….. As if Bush has a clue.

Gotta love a guy with his head so far up a Butt, that a bunch of lemmings will follow.

By The Truth

January 25, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION?

Where are the weapons of mass destruction?

WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION?

Where are the weapons of mass destruction?

WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION?

Where are the weapons of mass destruction?

WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION?

Where are the weapons of mass destruction?

WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION?

Where are the weapons of mass destruction?

By Glenn

January 25, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

Well then, Camus, please use your superior fact-finding methods to post whole sentences or paragraphs of the Republican sources of the legend that Gore is Father of the Internet and the myth that he and Tipper are the couple in Love Story.

Road Scholar,

You say the war was based on lies.

I say it was based on the fact of increasingly provocative Iraqi noncompliance with the treaty.

By Truthifier

January 25, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

Can someone here help me understand the tax rebate please? If I read correctly, individuals who make up to $75K will receive a rebate of $600, while the amount of the rebate for those making over $75K is gradually reduced based on their income. And again, if I have read correctly, those individuals who earned at least $3k last year, and paid no income taxes, will receive a rebate of $300. Am I correct? I’m hoping that I’m wrong, because if that’s the case then I just may have a Republican streak in me. It just doesn’t seem to make any sense to me that the rebates (which I think really shouldn’t be issued to anyone in the first place since they will solve nothing) will be issued in this manner. It sounds more like wealth (small wealth that is) redistribution.

I’m sure there are folks on here who know much more about this issue than I do, so I’d appreciate some clarification if I’m wrong. Thanks.

By Peter

January 25, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

Hey is there a rebate if you make over $150 K…….. seems like there is a bunch of taxing going on making that kind of cash ?

By Dusty

January 25, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

Ding Dong the witch is dead, But liberals keep trying to get ahead.

Keep giving it to ‘em, Jim Wooten. As you said Liberals are always brilliant after the fact. I hadn’t noticed any spectacular brilliance but the lies are amazing.

Before you ask about what lies, here’s a few. Incorrect CIA info about pre-war Iraq called deliberate lies; the war in Iraq called “occupation”, USA setting up an empire; President Bush did not serve in the National Guard, President Bush is a drunk, veterans receive little or no healthcare, our troops (best in the world) have insufficient arms,etc., the Iraq War is to get more oil; and the worst lie of all…there was an American conspiracy behind 9/11 and no plane hit the Pentagon. The list goes on and on as produced by liberals.

Now we get the elections and liberals are throwing the same old stuff at each other. Well, the aim is a welcomed change of direction. Still amazing to watch the production.

By jbmlaw

January 25, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Dear Camus @ 8:35, on October 9, 2002, the Dow Industrial average was 7,286.27. On October 9, 2007, the Dow Industrial average was 14,164.53. I’ll take the market over the government’s 2% return anytime. I can understand why you want to lock in your 2% return, but I cannot understand why, other than leftist control tendencies, you would forbid the rest of us from doing better.

By TW

January 25, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Many thanks to Camus and Glenn for the scintillating discussion, something abandoned by MSM…some more so than others. However, memo to you both:

As of this morning, Gore is not running for the nomination. Same with Kerry. So…WTF?

By Peter

January 25, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Dusty is a funny lady, not only is she NOT brilliant “after the fact”……

She has zero to say before, during or after the fact…….

Blah, Blah, Blah…….. lets’ all repeat after Dusty……Blah, Blah Blah.

“Now we get the elections and liberals are throwing the same old stuff at each other. Well, the aim is a welcomed change of direction. Still amazing to watch the production.”

Now let’s all try to make some sense of that statement………

“What Stuff?”

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH…….

By jbmlaw

January 25, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Dear Truthifier @ 9:25, you analyze correctly. You may be pleased to be told that you do not have a “republican” streak – the republicans are complicit in the stupidity – but you may have a latent conservative streak.

By Curious Observer

January 25, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Funny how these advocates of the untrammeled free market and Friedman economics resort to the theories of that old Bloomsbury Group icon, John Maynard Keynes, when it’s time to try to turn around an economic downturn. I rather thought the rallying cry of the right was to keep the federal government out of the market, rather than use its powers to pump money into the economy.

A looming election does wondrous things to conservatives.

By RCH

January 25, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

Truthifier

You are insensitive,greedy,and any other term that financial conservatives are called.LOL. You are exactly right with your analysis of the tax rebate. Reward those who make bad designs in there life( also buying homes who they could not afford,now the government wants to bail them out) and punish those who work hard and smart by taking their money and redistributing it to others for their vote. Hurts doesn’t it?

By OneForTheRoad

January 25, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

The real reasons for the war in Iraq cannot be shared with the general public. NO! I say to the rogue Scholars, the lay lawyers, and Voters from all states — The Truth is not yours to have. Go forth and get a life while you can for you all will eventually become no more than a Shark Sandwich in the End. Al Gore was able to uncover small pieces of our plan but even his superior intellect and vast resources will not be brought to bear against our efforts soon enough to make a difference. Besides, The Truth would surely rip the space-time continuum to shreds. Even The Rebel’s Nobel efforts will not — must not — prevail. We must continue to propagate alternate realities for the general welfare. Silly earthlings. Oops, strike that last sentence — a slip of the tongue. I meant to say Silly humans. We will soon start Phase II of our plan, the Fair plan, the GREAT plan, to ensure the survival of our species. Silly earthlings. Oops, I did it again.

By Truthifier

January 25, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Thanks jbm. I’ve suspected a latent conservative streak before but have tried not to think about it!

By Sister Catherine

January 25, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Way to cherry pick your numbers Glenn.

1/20/01 DJIA=10587…Bush inaguration

1/25/08 DJIA=12400…Today

The Dow is up 2.2 percent in the 7 years Bush has been President.

CD’s have done better.

By Kevin

January 25, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Hey! A gentleman does not blah blah a lady. We are not animals.

With slow growth and artificial liquidity we will see stagflation, the worst of all possible economies.

Bernanke will resign before the year is out. The inflation scare will put the fear of god and the loathing of the GOP into all of us. Equals hillary landslide. LANDSLIDE. America will want it’s mommy.

Numbers theory, the laws of chaos, and the law of averages all point to inflation dead ahead, as high as 18%, just like in 1980. The 3/4% rate cut will aggravate this inflation. We are in for it, folks. Sell.

By Sister Catherine

January 25, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Right RCH, rewarding the people that don’t pay taxes = bad.

Of course that doesn’t include the special rights we are giving to people with children who get an extra $300.00 per child.

How many 5 year olds pay taxes?

By jm

January 25, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Funny, Mr. Wooten did not seem to mind increasing the deficit during the economic expansion, so why does it bother him now? After all, according to Cheney, “Reagan taught us that deficits don’t matter”.

By Dusty

January 25, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw @9:04

I seldom differ with your opinions but the 9:04 is a little different. The ever sensible Peggy Noonan seems to have frozen her assets a bit.

George W. Bush has led the country and the Republican Party for almost eight years. To say he destroyed the party is more war fatigue and worry.

Destruction has been produced by terrorists. The aftermath of that damage has reached into the echelons of politics. When the dangers were obvious and protection demanded, any expense was understood.

Now we want a “quick” end to war without cost, an instantaneous recovery, low prices on our gasoline, and a “quick” answer to immigration. If we don’t get all of that, the party is considered broken?

NO, IT IS NOT. Change is not the saame as “broken”. It is a building of new ideas. Time is forever moving and we change with it. New growth is essential for invigoration. Peggy Noonan got her feet stuck in the mud while Republicans move to new horizons.

By Sister Catherine

January 25, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Good God Dusty, snap out of it.

By Dusty

January 25, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Errr Peter @ 9:41

Have you ever heard of the Clintons and Obama? South Carolina?? Debates?

I’m just giving you a clue about the “stuff” since you seem to have been sleeping. Always glad to help.

By Dusty

January 25, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Sister Catherine @ 10:09

My goodness, PoFo, are you Catherine today? Keven and Sarah are not going to like that. What dress are you wearing?

By RCH

January 25, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

* Sister Catherine*

Ah,We have to do this for the children. Tax payer already receive deductions for their children.If we are going to do this, simply make this a sliding scale. Those who pay receive those who don’t oh well

By Glenn

January 25, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

TW,

Stop confusing the issue with facts.

The issue is Jim’s Borking/Swiftboating one; specifically, is there a mythmaking GOP machine or a mythmaking Dem machine, and who, if anyone, is the victim of which?

By Glenn

January 25, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

PoFo, what a skunkypunk, impersonating a woman of the cloth! For shame!

By Redneck Convert

January 25, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

That weren’t me at 8:36. Must be some librul trying to make me look bad. Wooten should kick him off the blog.

By Sister Catherine

January 25, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

I’m not PoFo.

By Jim Earl

January 25, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

I can’t quit you.

By Bubba Li Cious

January 25, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

I is confused. I does not know who I is no more. I broke my razor and I aint shaved now for a whole day. I looked in the mirror this mornin and there was this stranger starin right back at me. A real hairy feller he was. I jest want my old self back.

By TW

January 25, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Glenn – your right, Mr. Wooten did toss out the topic. But while I expect such a nonproductive diversion from him (not a worthy political morsel left on his rightwing plate), I think it a shame that during a time when our country circles about the bowl, minds like yours and Camus’ busy themselves with low rent drivel rather than solution. I suppose I can understand your hesitancy, what with solution beginning with identification of the problem, but for Camus there is really no excuse.

By catlady

January 25, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Nice to see the “fiscal conservative” President proposing a tax “cut” for those who do not pay taxes! Of course, he spends money like a drunken sailor on leave, including indebting our children and grandchilden for decades to come.

By Putrid Myspacer from hell

January 25, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Stop myspacing dusty, and stop trying to ID the troll, you’re usually wrong, and there’s lots of people getting a real grin fooling you.

To the trolls who dusty thinks is analchord: thanx <=3

The amazing thing about deficits is that none of the predictions of doom have ever occurred whenever the USA fell deep into it’s cycle of debt. It just hasn’t happened. Forget the deficit. Inflation is the real enemy. What? you’re about to blog that deficits can cause inflation? Look at history. Show me the correlation between inflation and deficits. Know what? U cant.

You know, reading Wooten today makes me wonder what he and his co-mutineers think they have to write to advance a conservative agenda, and prove that they’re conservative. I mean, you dont have to read it anymore. you know that credibility is expendable in right-spin. You see, only wooten-types believe in hard work. hard work. hard work. and democrats are all lazy, food-stamp-licking, government-cheese-eating terrorists who have already defacto surrendered this country to Osama bin laden.

it’s like seeing the same popeye cartoon 500 times, like we did in the 50’s when there was only one channel. You just know Brutus is going to paw Olive Oil and Popeye is going to eat that spinach and punch Brutus in the nose, probably to Olive Oil’s chagrin. (but in the 50’s they wouldn’t let us show olive oil and Brutus in bed like they do now. Popeye was a kockblocker plain and simple.)

similarly, every cotton-pickin thing wooten writes has some snide remark about how he patriotically works hard and liberals dont

The “fairytale” was Everything Bush said post-911. Every single word. The military industrial complex simply is too powerful to resist. They determine our foreign policy to the beat of a revenue chart. Fact. Jack.

Once upon a time there was a king. One day his kingmaker said attack iraq. “Why?” asked the king. Because they have a seige cannon to tear down your castle walls in 45 minutes. “But my knights have been in iraq and they didn’t see a seige cannon”. That’s because the seige cannon is hidden in a diaper factory. Did your knights look in the diaper factory? “No”. Well, then, attack iraq. “okey dokey”.

Paid for by mother goose.

By Peter

January 25, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Hi could someone interpret what Dusty has to say ?

“Destruction has been produced by terrorists. The aftermath of that damage has reached into the echelons of politics. When the dangers were obvious and protection demanded, any expense was understood.”

Thank you………

By TW

January 25, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Peter - what she said there is kind of like a steroided version of throw out the baby with the bath water. I guess it’s a good thing the Republicans weren’t in the WH when McVeigh hit…there’d be a big lake where Oklahoma used to be…

By Charles

January 25, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

If African Americans are concerned about their mental and/or physical health, and existence, they should immediately abandon the fantasy of integration and the fairy tale lives that they lead.

In the early 1960’s, the physical appearance of African Americans matched our mental genius. The overwhelming majority of African Americans were conservative, vibrant, bright, sensible, and beautiful almost without exception.

During the mid-1980s, the Grand Master teacher appeared before our organization and declared that something terrible had become of African Americans, both mentally and physically. It took another ten years for most members of our organization to observe the now obvious mental and physical decline.

It is suicidal for young people to replace reality with a conjured up dream reality as most integrationist African Americans do. Fantasy and fairy tale lives will adversely alter the mental and physical condition of any people.

We have run out of alternatives folks, either forgo this mentally challenged integrationist love everybody ideology and develop a nationalist mentality like most intelligent people across the earth do or die.

In parting, here is a very important question for white Americans. What does it profit you to globalize and lose your national sovereignty during the process?

Ron Paul is hope for America.

By Glenn

January 25, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

TW, the solution is a concentrated one: a spray in the face of the body politic. A spray of concentrated truth. Camus and I are after the same thing, we’re just not being very presentable at it.

By Dusty

January 25, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Long boring 10:44,

The only “space” I claim is that posted under Dusty. Unlike you, I have and use only ONE ID. Take your meds.

Peter@10:44

Please, don’t display your ignorance. In the meantime, go to Google and write 9/11 in the little blank space. They will help you.

By OneForTheRoad

January 25, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

TW,

A hole full of water would serve no economically viable purpose. A tourist trap! Yes. That would be much better. Souvenir 50lb bags of potassium nitrate might be a bit overkill though.

By Dusty

January 25, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

TW@10:54

OH, I see. Democrats are responsible for the damage done by McVeigh. I didn’t know they had taken responsibility for that.

By profit

January 25, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

The atlanta jungle bunnies are just foaming at the mouth thinking of all the Federal Grants they can steal under a Hillarity the Clown administration. Do you remember the empowerment zones under the zipperboy administration? Its been 15 odd years, yet I see no economic powerhouses, or even break even businesses. The Grady crooks will have their ugly brown hands out for 100 million dollar federal grants, like the one zipperboy gave them: with which they built the marble entryway: that really helped make the hospital more efficent and profitable: not to mention the kickbacks and bribes: I have moved my dollars out of AmeriKa, to Asia, Europe, and South America. The dollar is doomed as long as crooks like the ClinTaxs, the shrubs, and the w******* control the printing and spending of unbacked dollars.

By TW

January 25, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Peter - my spec ed is a little rusty. Please tell me what Dusty said @11:03.

By Jackie

January 25, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

If Dubya served in the Alabama National Guard, how can anyone explain the following? Did he serve in the ROTC in college?; where did he take his basic training?; how did he go into the military as a 1st Lt.?; when did he take his flight training?; where did he take his flight training?; when did he take his flight physical?; does the FAA have a copy of his pilot’s license?; where is his all encompassing DD-214?; what is his service number? As all veterans are aware, your service number, your DD-214 and your basic training/AIT dates are ALWAYS REMEMBERED!

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

January 25, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Hi Jim,

Glad to see that you noted our government’s efforts to buy us off with regards to the impending recession.

Was hoping to see something a little more pointed though…’specially considering this is the second time a GOP president has used the tax code to shift wealth. Nice.

By Dusty

January 25, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

TW@11:04

I am sorry about your “special education”. They told you not to drop out but you did!

Jackie @11:11,

You forgot to ask what company made the National Guard planes that George W. Bush was “flying”? You seem to think that they were invisible. But then again, no story is impossible for you liberals.

By Peggy Noonan

January 25, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

Gosh, Dusty. I never thought of it that way. I suppose you are right. Let’s do lunch.

Peg

By Jackie

January 25, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

@Dusty,

If I remember correctly, he picture shows him sitting in a McDonnell-Douglass F-100, commonly known as a “Thud.” Now, what are the answers to those questions posed? Could you please elaborate on those answers since you are so supportive of the troops. Mind you, each military veteran will tell you their serial number, DD-214 and basic training/AIT are gospel. Please get all the help you can to make a logical argument showing the errors I have put forth.

By Peter

January 25, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Dusty are you speaking in Tongues…..or is that a donut making us not understand your muttering?

“Peter@10:44

Please, don’t display your ignorance. In the meantime, go to Google and write 9/11 in the little blank space. They will help you.”

What shall I Google….. we got attacked by Bin Lauden…. so we attack Iraq?

By Dusty

January 25, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

Peggy Noonan @11:25

I would love to do lunch with you. Unfortunately, I have a luncheon engagement with my press agent this very day. But let us keep this in mind for another time with tea and crumpets.

Dusty

By Dusty

January 25, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

Jackie,

Look up the archives. Liberals have already tried to smear Bush’s military record, even producing forgeries. It didn’t work. Try something new.

Peter,

You are on your own (poor baby). I am going to lunch.

By RamblinLonghorn

January 25, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

Nice to know you care so much about Heath Ledger, Wooten. I’m sure you care about someone’s son dying and not about making some meaningless point about how Hollywood is evil.

Could you have at least waited until after the funeral? Or if that’s too decent of you, you could have waited until after autopsy test proved anything. But I suppose it’s more important that you put some snarky line on your blog.

By Redneck Convert

January 25, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

Well, I’m all bumfuzzled. Some guy comes on here claiming to be me and saying what I wrote ain’t from me. Now my buddy Jim Earl is hopping mad because the guy posts under his name. Its something about a humpback mountain and Jim Earl says he ain’t gay and never has been gay and won’t be gay.

Anyhow, don’t worry about Sister Dusty. She ain’t been right ever since the Dr. dropped her on her head when she was a baby. Everything that comes out blasts the librul Democrats and takes up for My President, so her heart is Right even if she don’t make a lot of sense to people. Wooten don’t make a lot of sense sometimes too. I wonder if he was dropped on his head.

Now I’m going to park this truck and have my chicken weenie lunch.

By jbmlaw

January 25, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Dear Sister @ 9:50, you certainly show chutzpah, complaining about cherry-picking. All of the phony arguments against allowing individuals to invest their social security into stock market funds rely on cherry-picking numbers. Since most of us use a longer investment time frame than five years when we think about retirement, why don’t you look for some period of 25-30 years when the stock market did not return a rate of around 8% per annum overall? (That’s approx 400% return overall, vs the soc sec return of around 75-80% overall.) Clue, you won’t find one, even by cherry-picking.

By Camus

January 25, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

Quickly, as I am caring for a sick youngun today…

TW, the only reason for caring about the Gore kerfuffle is to use it as a cautionary tale describing the way the MSM degrades the public discourse.

Happy to see Peggy “Dolphins” Noonan sobered up long enough to see the truth about her Codpiece Hero. Perhaps Dusty will do the same someday.

Nah, I kid. Not possible.

Off to the sick bay.

By Sadie Convert

January 25, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Hit were me what writ that, ye dadblamed fool! You and Jim Earl stay out all night galavantin’ agin and you jest what all I spread about ya.

By Sadie Convert

January 25, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Hit were me what writ that, ye dadblamed fool! You and Jim Earl stay out all night galavantin’ agin and you jest see what all I spread about ya.

By getalife

January 25, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

If you watched the gop debate last night, timmah has both parties positioned on Iraq.

The voters will decide to stay the course with the gop who will not admit it is a mistake after the 935 lies and no WMD’s (Gomer said they are in Jordan, geez.) or to get out with the Dems who admit it was a mistake.

The majority will vote to get out and vote Dem.

By Jackie

January 25, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

@Dusty,

It seems that you are either unaware or misinformed about military archives. The DD-214 is your condensed military record and it is only kept in one place, Kansas City, Mo. So, if there are errors regarding Dubya military records, he has ample opportunity to ask for corrections. Non withstanding, the conservatives have tried to make up things to put in the public spotlight to puff records of your religious gods. When you have time, please do some serious investigative work concerning Dubya’s military record. I am sure you will find more than one source to corroborate your findings and substantiate the military record of Dubya. Sen. Graham (R-SC) is a retired Air Force JAG officer. Ask him about finding information concerning military records.

By @@

January 25, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

What I find most disturbing about the media coverage of Heath Ledger’s death is how quickly they (the media) reported on speculations. My gawd, this guy had a family. Have they (the media) no compassion…no decency…no integrity in their reporting?

Then we have “The Looney” Clooney who know longer wants to reside next door to “trailer trash” like Britney Spears—neither did John Edwards. Compassionate liberals never cease to amaze!

I’m lovin’ the civility (ahem) being displayed by the democrats of late.

The fairy tales line was a poke at America’s first black president, Bill Clinton, who was seated in the audience.

Well, there’s a poke and then there’s a pig in a poke. What was it Andrew Young said about Bill?—“He’s probably slept with more black women than Obama.”

I have no problem with the Loudermilk Foundations’ approach as long as they emphasize that taking full advantage of education is a way to guarantee a good salary when the kids become adults but…

I’ve known friends who opted to pay their kids money for good grades as a last resort to their Ds. Amazingly enough the kids were capable all along so my question to them was “Who’s manipulating whom here?” Kids aren’t stupid but sometimes it pays to appear so.

I’ve never been a history buff. I’ve heard tell that the value in learning history is to avoid repeating mistakes. Who the heck did you say is funding the museum again?

I agree Jim, the rebate checks are typical poll-i-pandering. I say the recipients should donate it to charity if they’re really serious about helping the less fortunate. If they don’t then they can spare me the crocodile tears.

For those who want to hear—“Hindsight alone is not wisdom. And second-guessing is not a strategy” (By: George W. Bush) I add…..”but it’s all the Democrats can muster.” after the fact that they too, voted for the war. Typical CYA strategy from the dems. While President Bush is behind our troops, the libs are in front of them “flapping in the breeze” and fully exposed by the success of the Iraq winds “surging” up their backsides.

Indeed….’tis a site to see.

By getalife

January 25, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Tim asked the gotcha question on Iraq last night in the gop debate.

After 935 lies and no WMD’s (gomer said they are in Jordan) the gop candidates (except Ron Paul, of course) will not admit it was a mistake and will keep wasting lives and billions on Iraqi and corporate welfare.

The Dems all admit it was a mistake and will get out and end this welfare.

The majority of voters agree with the Dem position and will vote Dem.

McCain has no clue about our economy and will rely on neocon advisers like w.

By @@

January 25, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Whoopsee need to correct my typo…

Then we have “The Looney” Clooney who —->know<—- should be no longer wants to reside next door to “trailer trash” like Britney Spears—neither did John Edwards. Compassionate liberals never cease to amaze!

but I did know John Edwards was a liberal hypocrite.

By @@

January 25, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Darn, another post, another typo. Should be Whoopsie. Sorry for the error.

By Truthifier

January 25, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

RCH at 9:49am your post seems intended to slam me but, frankly, just doesn’t make any sense. Try again.

By @@

January 25, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Nooooo, namejacking @@ at 12:55! I like the….

WhoopSee—————> version.

Art is subjective unless you’re a fascist.

Burn baby burn…

By Peter

January 25, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

Dusty your comments are so true…….

“Peter,

You are on your own (poor baby). I am going to lunch.”

In Fact as individuals we are all truly all on our own…….

As a business owner for more than 20 years, financially that is a truism as well.

Who are you working for, that you waste your employers time, while blogging here ?

Of course when it come to this government run by Bush, we are more than ever ALL on our own……

Too bad you are in capable of actually making a statement with a clear cut thought leading to a conclusion.

What do lemmings eat for lunch?

By RCH

January 25, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Truthifier

It was not intended to be a slam.Any time a financial Conservative makes that type of statement that is what they are refereed to.

By Gotta keep up......

January 25, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

The best way to describe the tax refund as a stimulus is that 99.999% of people who receive this refund will immediately rush out to spend the new found fortune on something, thereby stimulating the economy. This is in response to talks of recession causing people to reduce spending in preparation for the harder times, therefore affecting lending, and borrowing with banks, companies, etc. Our economy is based on spending. Not saving. People saving money will cause the economy/country to implode upon itself. As long as people are spending and borrowing whether they are able to support it or not will allow the country to continue on its course to a recession. As long as the 99% are turning to the 1% that has the funding, everything goes as planned.

By Bubba Li Cious

January 25, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

I keep tellin my daughter thet I will pay her a dollar a day ifin she does good in schoolin. I tell her its cuz I dont want her growin up like me and livin in no old single wide trailer. No Sireee. I says. You is gonna have a double wide trailer to raise our little ones in.

By Curious Observer

January 25, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

The DD-214 is your condensed military record and it is only kept in one place, Kansas City, Mo. So, if there are errors regarding Dubya military records, he has ample opportunity to ask for corrections.

Believe me, no veteran ever forgets his DD-214 and his service number (which was once completely separate from the Social Security number.) Nor does the military lose service records, except in one case involving a fire in a storage warehouse. In fact, a couple of years ago I was able to secure a certified copy of mine from 1964, plus my pay records.

The only way that a DD-214 could be missing otherwise is by virtue of orders from on high—very high.

So why is Dubya’s DD-214 missing? And why does nobody remember ever serving with him?

Perhaps Dusty, who seems to know everything, can explain how it is that her hero’s military background is such a mystery.

By getalife

January 25, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

What do lemmings eat for lunch?

935 lies of course.

By deegee

January 25, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

The economic stimulus plan really has nothing to do with taxes. To call it a tax rebate is a misnomer. The IRS database is the only database that I can think of that the federal government can tap for financial accountability. You can’t use social security numbers to issue checks, and you can’t use drivers licenses. You can’t use military records. What else is there? They call it a tax rebate because they are going to use the IRS database to generate the checks. If there was a national ID card then you could call it what it truly is, a shopping coupon. It’s like the Total Rewards card you get from Macy’s. Macy’s, like the federal government, knows that to receive the maximum benefit they should give the coupon to those that are most likely to spend it. So relax, dittoheads. It’s a marketing plan, not a tax plan.

By The Trickster

January 25, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Actually, I think they eat a five course meal consisting of 187 lies per course.

By deegee

January 25, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

Is it a coincidence that Nike places $230.00 tennis shoes on the market the day after the government promises to give everyone a check for $300.00?

http://www.ajc.com/living/content/living/stories/2008/01/24/jordan_0124.html

By Jackie

January 25, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

The AJC has a headline where Marietta is clearing out a “homeless camp.” Several of those in this situation are identified military vets. Two points about this scenario: is this beginning of a major recession that many of the conservatives say is not possible and the financial experts are only guessing?; Bill O’Reilly says he doesn’t believe the Pentagon when they say there are on average 200,000 homeless vets with a high prediction of 400,000.

By jbmlaw

January 25, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

Dear Curious @ 2:13, and what become of that hat that was rightfully mine. I say, them that’s filched the hat, them’s the ones that done him in.

Dear Tricky @ 2:43, and most of those lies are the Clintonogenous “WMDs in Iraq.”

By jbmlaw

January 25, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Dear Jackie @ 3:16, because you merely repeat the daily Kos, you unknowingly lie. O’Reilly brought in VA experts, and correctly says that 98%+ of the “homeless vets” have substance abuse problems. The unhinged left, i.e., John Edwards, avers that this is an “economic” problem rather than one of personal destruction. As it happens the VA has an effective rescue program for those vets who wish to change their status; the dirty secret is that most homeless people enjoy their stupor, and prefer to not change.

By deegee

January 25, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Rob Pitts wants to put a casino in downtown Atlanta. History museum or casino, what do you bet is going to happen?

By Camus

January 25, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

jbm: ” the dirty secret is that most homeless people enjoy their stupor, and prefer to not change.”

those lucky duckies. just when you think the guy has gone as low as is humanly possible, he goes and hacks up something like this.

I’m going back to cleaning up after the youngun with stomach flu. It is less nauseating than jbm’s bile.

By Glenn

January 25, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

And Camus, seriously, I’m happy that the dispute led to my discovery of the huge number of articles and blogs declaring that Gore had nothing whatever to do with ever claiming credit for the development of the Internet, that that was all a legend concocted by X person or Y person. That is quite a machine, the one or the other, depending on which one you’re more interested in. See what I mean?

Oh and hey, how ‘bout the provenance of that list of 935 alleged false statements, to which everyone, right on schedule, is referring as known “lies” (as though the two categories were the same)? Q: Since when does AP not report the source of a study’s funding? A: Since Soros got into the act.

By Glenn

January 25, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Sister Catherine @ 9:50,

What are you talking about? Am I supposed to be cooking numbers now? What numbers? When?

I don’t recall having dealt in any economic figures.

By Shar

January 25, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Jbmlaw@8:07 -You must know I would not laugh at you. I’d be as rude as Shirley, and at least as ill-considered and gratuitous.

In fact, as I skimmed the blog this afternoon I was shaken to realize that I agree with you on all but your first and last comments. Mr. Wooten’s unprovoked and mean-spirited swipe at Heath Ledger is not even faintly amusing. And I have yet to hear (although my listening is sporadic) that the police found any but legally prescribed drugs in his home, or in his body. In fact, the cause of his death has not been determined. To dismissively mock his death, particularly in light of Jim’s synpathy for Rush Limbaugh’s OxyContin addiction and his denial and blaming of others, is cheap, ill-informed and mean.

As a history buff, I couldn’t agree more that the State has no business spending money for a history museum, particularly in Atlanta where we have not only the resources in the State Capitol building but the Atlanta History Museum itself. If the State’s collection is so crucial to warrant permanent display, start off by chucking the ancient stuffed ptarmigan dioramas in the Capitol and replace them with a rotating exhibit of the best pieces. If, when we are limitlessly flush with funds, a museum becomes a priority, put the danged thing in the center of the State where more people can get to see it.

I’m also right with you on Loudermilk, Syed, Jacobs and tax rebates. Will wonders never cease? The casual and unsupported slam of “liberals” has become the unfortunate norm in this space, and is best ignored or at least regretted as, frankly, beneath you.

I have no idea how you can support your 3:24 reply to Jackie, however. While the great majority of the homeless have substance abuse problems, regardless of their status as veterans, I cannot imagine where you find supporting evidence for your claim that they “enjoy their stupor”. Unless you are talking about the “stupor” of addicts as a whole? Homeless vets (or others) who are in thrall to a mirage, whether they are mentally delusional or chemically induced, are not sufficiently in command of themselves to face the challenge of “changing their status”, and are not fit to “enjoy” much of anything. Time is holding them green and dying, but they are howling rather than singing in their chains.

By Putrid Myspacer from hell

January 25, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

With the way JBMLAW supports the troops and vets, who needs al queda?

By The Avoidable Truth

January 25, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

THEY’RE IN SYRIA!

They’re in Syria!

THEY’RE IN SYRIA!

They’re in Syria!

THEY’RE IN SYRIA!

They’re in Syria!

THEY’RE IN SYRIA!

They’re in Syria!

THEY’RE IN SYRIA!

They’re in Syria!

By Glenn

January 25, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

jbm,

Did you notice that the blowhard O’Reilly and the Rt. Hon. representative of the Trial Lawyers Assn. both ducked the harder challenge of asking—-the better not to have to answer—-whether USDVA’s services to homeless vets work?

Those two men are so comfortably conversant with social problems that they could lie right down next to one and take a nap.

By Joe D

January 25, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

Shar @ 4:01, you may have just written Jim’s epitaph: cheap, ill-informed and mean. Why bother asking jbm for a factual basis for his comments? He has none, so he’ll make one up about some homeless client who told him about the great parties that go on at 3 am on the streets of Atlanta, or some other nonsense story. It’s the circle of life for jbm.

By Jackie

January 25, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

@jbmlaw,

Unfortunately, you don’t believe your own lying eyes or ears. O’Reilley brought in a retired Col. and HE castigated O’Reilly for not understanding the problem. O’Reilley stated that he wanted the Col. to bring any homeless veterans to him personally. Why is it you neo-cons seem to think that you are the only ones that can hear, speak or read with clarity and comprehension? Secondly, THE PENTAGON is the entity that published the numbers. Are they lying?

By OneForTheRoad

January 25, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

Not as much exciting stuff to read on here today. Too bad Glenn and Camus are burned out from yesterday’s brawl.

By Jackie

January 25, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

@jbmlaw,

To further my thesis about your duplicity, what about the Marine the call the “Marlboro Man.” Young man in Iraq for 2 tours who came back to Camp LeJueune, NC and had so many problems with PTSD that he was discharged from the Corps. Because of his discharge, he divorced his wife, had no job or skills, lived on the streets and his car - before the repo man caught up to him. The young man had to pay part of HIS OWN MEDICAL CARE and was rescued by one of the vet organizations. You should not lie so blantantly, like Mr. O’Reilley.

By Putrid Myspacer from hell

January 25, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Campaigning in 2004, George Bush was often asked about his “mission accomplished” speech on the deck of that carrier.

Bush would usually immediately say “Hard Work”. He used that phrase and only that phrase every time somebody brought up the Mission Accomplished rectal chafe.

“I said there was still hard work ahead.”

And all the reporters bought it. Why? If I had been the reporter, I’d have destroyed George Bush if he said the words, “Hard Work” after I axed him about mission unconscious.

He’s a butt. We have a total butt as president. He makes me ashamed not just to be an american, but to be a man, and a baby boomer, and a creature with opposable thumbs and fingers, and anything that stands upright.

He’s a total failure as a human being, and he belongs behind bars.

By OK, so ....

January 25, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

Why didn’t we go get them?

Why didn’t we go get them?

Why didn’t we go get them?

Why didn’t we go get them?

Why didn’t we go get them?

Why didn’t we go get them?

By Lincoln to his cabinet

January 25, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

“One war at a time, gentlemen.”

“One war at a time.”

“One war at a time, gentlemen.”

“One war at a time.”

“One war at a time, gentlemen.”

“One war at a time.”

“One war at a time, gentlemen.”

“One war at a time.”

“One war at a time, gentlemen.”

“One war at a time.”

By Jackie

January 25, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

@jbmlaw,

Here is something for you to read as you and your other neo-con friends only drink the Kool-Aid from Fox.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080119/aponreus/homelessonthehomefront

By Lincoln to his cabinet

January 25, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

Jackie,

C’n I play too, even though I’m not enough of a Democrat to be a neocon and I take my news black, with one lump not two, from any source I can find except CNN?

By Lowell

January 25, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

Send everybody checks for a few hundred dollars when the federal government is running a deficit is like everybody taking a cash advance on a credit card and sending the bill to our children.

By Bear

January 25, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

miller time

moderation

By getalife

January 25, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

Lowell,

Tell your kids thanks for buying my government subsidized weed.

By Glenn

January 25, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

Jackie,

(Just blew my abe-racadabra secret password). Tried to open your Yahoo link, but no go.

Am I missing something here, Jackie, or should I be caring about the Shyster’s claim that the economy (and not the Iraq occupation??) is swelling the ranks of chronically homeless vets? Wouldn’t we be trying to improve their care even in boom times? I don’t get it.

It’s as though Edwards wants to say something just to get someone to pay attention to him so that he can then insist that we’re in denial about something else; namely, that “bigolly there are homeless vets and that’s not a good thing, and we ought to do something about it as long as you don’t make me think too hard about what that something ought to be.” This is how Edwards comes off to me. As someone who’s toying with an issue about which he can say nothing other than either (a) irrelevancies or else (b) the most obvious and prosaic truisms.

A good number of master politicians have broken their picks on the problem of homeless vets, and some really smart policy people too. And you and I agree that the VA’s services to them, while they may not be lacking in quantity, are terribly lacking in result. So why are we listening to some washed-up political fop who can’t say anything new about a complicated and tragic social problem?

By Jackie

January 25, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

@Glenn,

Having O’Reilley say that homeless vets are there “because they choose to be…” is a insult to all persons that understand the sacrifice these men and women make. We may not like the war; we may not like the Commander-in-Chief; we do have an obligation to make-good on our promise to those who put their lives on the line to “protect and serve.”

By Glenn

January 25, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

Agreed.

By jbmlaw

January 25, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

Dear Shar @ 4:01, your critique of my first and last arguments of my 8:07 if fair, and I apologize for bad form.

As to my harsh comments about the despicable Breck girl and his effort to allege that the economy has some relationship to the sad plight of veterans with substance abuse problems, however, I offer neither retraction nor apology. Also, I think it is incontrovertible that substance abuse is mostly a function of choice; that is the reason for the poor “cure” rates. We have substance abuse in my family, and there is no lack of caring by the supporters, nor defective intellect by the abuser. Alcohol and dope are used mostly because they feel good. I know there is a whole cottege industry built on “curing” these sad souls, but it is an industry built on deception. That is how I support my “claim.” I have seen it, and I am unafraid of speaking the truth.

By jbmlaw

January 25, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

Dear Jackie @ 5:44, you feed the popular slander of veterans, that they are disproportionately lunatics and drug abusers. It is not true.

By @@

January 25, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

Glenn:

I do hope that you and Camus have concluded your discussion on who served as inspiration for “Love Story”.

Love is never having to say you’re sorry had me thinking it may have been you and Camus. (ISH) <—-Insert Smile Here.

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By Jay

January 26, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Regarding Mayor Franklins comments, until leaders in the African American community stop using the MLK holiday platform for political posturing (remember the anti-war protests?), participation by the rest of the nation will continue to be lackluster at best.

By teamwork_dreamwork

January 26, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Atlanta -the good thing about marriage is that no one has to believe or even know that you are married

By Just Say No to Billary

January 27, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Hillary isn’t liberal. She’s Clinton. And there’s a BIG difference!