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GREAT plan a most useful springboard

While all were attentive, the least confused observer attending this week’s public hearings on House Speaker Glenn Richardson’s tax-shift proposal had to be 4-year-old Mary Scott of Rossville, a most remarkable child.

Through hours of testimony from interest groups and the occasional freewill citizen expressing personal opinion, little Mary Scott sat in dignified silence, watching, listening, doodling — contemplating for sure the vicissitudes of the GREAT plan (Georgia’s Repeal of Every Ad Valorem Tax) — the actual details of which had reached the House Ways and Means Committee less than 24 hours before.

Mary’s response to the day, which required more than three hours of quiet attention while seated beside her father, state Rep. Martin Scott (R-Rossville), was recounted later. Upon arrival back in Rossville, Scott says, “she ran in the door and said, ‘Mommy, it was great.’ I don’t think she was talking about the GREAT plan. She said: ‘I had cereal, Cocoa Krispies, and I had a cookie and I didn’t have to eat all my lunch.’ It was all about the food.”

A future legislator, no doubt — the feedings of which begin tonight with the traditional Wild Hog Supper that signals the start of every legislative session.

Barbecue and Cocoa Krispies are the diet equivalent of the GREAT plan. They have some nutritional value, but you can’t hang a life on them.

There’s so much unexamined about the speaker’s very consequential GREAT plan that the responsible course would be to set it aside. Why?

It has served an entirely useful purpose in that it has introduced Georgia to a new speaker as a leader willing to think big and take risks. A debate is needed about the cost and size of government, about the appropriate mix of taxes and how fiscal conservatives could structure them to stimulate and strengthen the economy. The GREAT plan is that impetus.

That said, however, it’s not a plan ready for prime time. At the week’s hearing, one critic after another sat down to voice objections or to raise questions. Many of those who spoke were advocating for some local government or interest group. Their primary interest appeared to be to rejigger Richardson’s proposal to swap a portion of a homeowner’s property tax for an expanded sales tax to something that would advantage them.

Howard “Buzz” Wachsteter, Rome’s mayor pro tem, made a valid point — “we need a plan with a lot of deep, detailed studies” — but then went on to advocate a tax on Internet sales, something long favored by merchants. Others saw it as an opportunity to press for tax breaks or more money.

Wachsteter proposed a blue-ribbon commission — the last thing, frankly, that Georgia needs.

Georgia already has a group perfectly competent at developing a sound tax system — one with a bipartisan combination of tax-policy expertise, youthful energy and a willingness to think creatively. It’s led by a strategic thinker who understands the implications and consequences of tax-law changes. It’s called the House Ways and Means Committee, the panel responsible for perfecting tax law.

Its chairman is state Rep. Larry O’Neal (R-Bonaire), who demonstrated last week the Southern gentleman’s ability to be polite, respectful — and firm in gently refocusing rambling speakers back to the legislation at hand.

It’s a group that — given direction from above as to the behaviors Georgia wishes to reward or discourage with tax policy — is entirely capable of building the vehicle. The parameters should be lower taxes, simplicity and economic stimulus — which suggests that the income tax is the far more inviting target.

The GREAT plan gives us a sales tax on services for the first time. It gives homeowners a significant but partial reduction in property taxes. And while it could put some dollars in some homeowners’ pockets, it takes them back out again at the grocery counter and the barbershop.

It’s easy to say: Just pass it and let the voters decide by constitutional amendment.

That’s politics. It’s not responsible stewardship.

The wise leader would not hang followers out on this one.

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By Luckoduh

January 12, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

{{{{Researchers have concluded in a yet-to-be published study of the economics of prostitution in Chicago that the women were forced to service police officers, worked more on holidays and varied pricing based on race.}}}}

Forced to work during holidays!

Can you imagine what’s next for the Crying Jag pinko media, when will we have a story about people being forced to wear klown wigs and fake noses the tenth time that they voted Klintoon in New Hampshire?

And people having to get wet swimming across the Rio Grande at the Mexican border!

Why, in the United States it is hell to be a criminal!

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And by the way, ever wonder why Code Pinko only whines about election fraud when their kkkandidate loses?

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A perfect example of how the pinko media uses the discredited polling system to influence an election:

{{{{Georgia poll has Huckabee up-Urinal}}}}

The same polls that missed New Hampshire by 13 or more percent.

These front page poll results, like those found in the Urinal today, are nothing but free kkkampaign advertisements.

Solely designed to get undecided voters to take a second look at one kkkandidate, not all of the candidates.

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{{{{Anyone who doubted that Hillary Clinton would make a strong comeback after her second-place finish in the Iowa caucuses has a short memory.- By Angela Tuck The Atlanta Urinal}}}}

Um, that was you and your fake polls that did that, duh.

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{{{{The U.S. dampened hopes Friday for swift agreement on a Mideast peace deal, as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice cautioned against expecting a “blinding flash” of Arab backing for cooperation with Israel, their historic enemy.-Urinal}}}}

Gee, so all of the whining that Code Pinko has done about BusHitler in the Middle East was really their way of “hoping?”

Yeah, O.K.

And think about this, we’re still waiting for results from the KKKlintoon efforts at Israeli-Palestinian peace, so yeah, start whining one week into the Bushie initiative.

That doesn’t show any bias.

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I ain’t defending no one here but look at what the Atlanta Journal Constitution does to influence public opinion:

{{{{NATION IN BRIEF: White power group may hold rally- A white supremacist group will be allowed to hold a rally in Jena, La., on Martin Luther King Day …..The white Nationalist Movement, based in Learned, Miss., wants to protest a march held in September to support the Jena 6, a group of black teens charged in the beating of a white schoolmate.}}}}

Can you just for a moment imagine if anyone ever called the Rainbow Coalition a “black power” movement?

These libs are the most pathetic haters, sicko, decisive race baiters and color mongers that you will ever see in your lifetime and the only way America will ever heal the scars of our past is when these POS join that past.

And what is so funny, if one of the “Jena 6” challenged the Klintoon kkkampaign by running for dem president then the Urinal probably would call them “black supremists,” or maybe “drug dealers?”

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Using the “Vent” to try to influence an election:

{{{{Here’s a snapshot of how really bad the economy is. With virtually no advertising, 7,500 people show up for 400 job openings at the new Wal-Mart store in DeKalb County.-Urinal}}}}

And that^^ was a “snapshot” into how little liberals know about business.

At the end of every Christmas shopping season, the retailers layoff the extra holiday help that they hired in November.

Not only does this give Code Pinko a annual chance to lie about the unemployment rate “going up,” it also gives Walmart a shot at a large number of people who are experienced in retail.

It’s all about the timing, no?

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We haven’t learned our lesson yet:

{{{{GEORGIA’S WATER CRISIS: CAN QUARRIES BE QUENCHERS? Deep, flooded pits could be tapped quickly during drought, but there are economic, environmental drawbacks in some cases}}}}

Environmentalists, great, We The People are fixing to get shafted, let us see what lie they are telling the dimwits at the Urinal and in government-

{{{{College officials won’t —- can’t —- share the quarry water with neighbors, they said, because any significant drawdown could create sinkholes large enough to swallow a dormitory. The quarry and the college sit atop an aquifer with underground springs and streams spread like tentacles underneath the campus. When the water table drops low, the soft, limestone ground below the campus sags.-Urinal}}}}

So why didn’t this happen when the quarry was being mined and it was empty, uh, duh?

And who’s talking about draining it?

Would the same mouth breathers that manage the level in Lanier be in charge of the quarry?

I would hope not.

Why do we have to have the most ignorant as-s people in the world looking out for our health and welfare?

By Raleigh

January 12, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten we can continue to pay rent to the government for property we used after tax dollars to buy. Why? You think when you buy a home you own it. NOT SO. If you can’t pay your taxes the government evicts you. The nice thing about sales tax is I do have a choice. The biggest excuse use by the opponents of the great plan is they want a guaranteed stable source of income. DON’T WE ALL. They are afraid they might actually have to budget like their constituents and that would be horrible wouldn’t it. Yes go ahead and kill this idea and continue down the path of letting the government control all but do us a favor and tell the truth. You are really a left winger for the same old tax structure and more government.

By Drive-by Media

January 12, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

Grading Wooten: Nice job punctuating that quote within a quote. The entire article had a snap crackle and pop to it that I really liked. It’s fun when wooten ribs the assembly like that. That said, however, it should be stated that the unspoken part of the voiced objections shouts out for bipartisan dialogue.

By Profit

January 12, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many”friends”of the Clintons. 1-James McDougal - Clinton ‘s convicted Whitewater partner died of anapparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a keywitness in Ken Starr’s investigation. 2 -Mary Maho ney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened justafter she was to go public with her sto ry of sexual harassment in theWhite House. 3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor, and colleague ofHillary Clinton at Little Rock ‘s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot woundto the head, ruled a suicide. 4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close tothe investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’sskull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a dealwith prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. Afewdays later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.> 5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fundraising organizatio n died in a private plane crash in July 1992 > 6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director founddead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described byClinton as a “Dear friend and trusted advisor”.> 7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep inthe woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. EdWilley died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed BillClinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey wasinvolved in several Clinton fund raising events. > 8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock . Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outsideLittle Rock . Park’s son said his father was building a dossier onClinton . He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After hedied the files were mysteriously removed from his house.> 9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that hehad a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential peoplewho visited prostitutes in Texas and Ar kansas …> 10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hangingsuicide. He wasreported to have ties to Whitewater.> 11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases,as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant alongwith Bill Clinton i n the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was apossible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.> 12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of KathyFerguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was founddead i n Ju ne, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at thegrave site of his fiancee.> 13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton ‘s friend Dan Lassater, died byjumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was aconvicted drug distributor.> 14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, wasrelated to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died ofthree gunshot wounds. > 15- Suzanne Colem an - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when hewas Arkansas Attorney Gener al. D ied of a gunshot wound to the back ofthe head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.> 16-Paula Grober - Clinton ‘s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.> 17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airportand Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists,apparently, in the middle of his investigation. > 18- < B>Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at MenaAirport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead ona toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered areport to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death. > 19-Jon Pa rnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution TrustCorp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartmentbalcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantyscandal.> 20-Barbara Wise - Commerce D epartment sta ffer. Worked closely withRon Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29,1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at theDepartment of Commerce.> 21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave JohnHuang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a smallplane crash.> 22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic HealthCare Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a smallplane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisorycouncil personally treated Clinton ‘s mother, stepfather and brother.> 23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was noaccident. > 24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to BillClinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was founddead after his car had hit a utility pole.> 25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was apurported suicide and his report was never released.> 26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1,1994 when his plane exploded.> 27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as “The boys on the track” case.Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airportdrug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said,due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slai n before being placed on the tracks. Many linked tothe case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury. > > THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE: > > 28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of atruck, 7/88.> 29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988 > 30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989. > 31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trashdump in April 1989.> 33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes”.> 34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of hispickup truck in June 1990.> 35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He waskilled in a set-up robbery July 1989.> > THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:> 36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.> 37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds> 38-Sgt. Brian Hanley> 39-Sgt. Tim Sabel> 40-Major General William Robertson> 41-< SPAN style=”F: bold”>Col. William Densberger> 42-Col. Robert Kelly> 43-Spec. Gary Rhodes> 44-Steve Willis> 45-Robert Williams> 46-Conway LeBleu> 47-Todd McKeehan> Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become awareof what happens to friends of the Clinton’s!> HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT? SURELY YOU JEST !! > EVEN THE MAFIA HAS A MORE HUMANE RECORD THAN THIS, IMHO!

By Frank Malzone

January 12, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

The idea of a tax revolution is very appealing and sounds too good to be true. The assembly is merely buying time, and distracting the voters.

All americans want tax reform. All americans want health care.

It’s better to want than to have.

By Glenn

January 12, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

Jim, what a fine column. And thanks for putting up with three or four hours in committee, albeit with an adorable four year-old who as best I can tell already is a legislator. When you wrote that “The GREAT plan is that impetus”, I truly thought you’d written “that impetuous”! Just as well.

When 10-Miles-To-Rome’s Mayor says that what’s needed is an omnibus full of studies, he of course means an omnibusful of fig leaves, but at least he makes your point that prudence dictates deliberation. And I still think the Speaker jumped the shark when he authored his own package. That’s a Guvwannabe, not a Speaker. And in this case, not a good Guv either.

Camus,

You aks about Rudy&me. I’m not one of those abandoning ship. It’s the big-ticket boys who’re having to tighten up, and they’re big enough to know that this is what happens when a candidate goes for broke, as Rudy’s said he’s doing in FL. He’s borrowing money against that bet, and there’ll be plenty of it when the bet pays off. We all know that. As for me, I’m in ‘til then, to answer your question. I won’t look at alternatives until then. People think that because he’s a hawg he isn’t loyal. They’re wrong. He is, and so am I, and so are a helluva lot of people who’re down with Rudy, some of them with their pocketbooks out. Bloomberg’s timing is meant to shut off Rudy’s spigot, and it’s not going to work. (Bloomberg’s in bed with Hillary.CNN.com anyway.)

[Giuliani/Thompson 08]

Postscript: Condolences to any of you who knew Cayle Bywater or Meredith Emerson.

By Curious Observer

January 12, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

I knew Howard “Buzz” Wachsteter when he worked in his father’s clothing store in Rome back in the 1970s. If ever there was a person suited for tailoring tax policy to suit the merchant class, Buzz is the one. Tax Internet sales indeed! The state would love to tap into that source of revenue.

The GREAT plan won’t fly, but I’m guessing that the legislature will find some way to increase the level of taxation and, of course, of expenditures. Look for a revision of the state income tax structure, accompanied by the institution of a tax on Internet sales. Whatever the changes, the lower and middle classes will bear the onus. The bad medicine will be made more palatable with vague promises of use of a portion of the increased funds for road-building and traffic management.

The good ol’ boys down at the state Capitol are suffering from a severe case of tight belts, and the consumers and the wage-earners are the relief.

By The Prophet

January 12, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Lets review the Bush/Cheney record about destroying patriotic + loyal americans and other things that get in their crosshairs: Valerie Plame. The US army. The US navy. The US marines. The US airforce. Nasa. Fossils. Gravity. Science. Catholicism. God. String theory. Numbers. Words. Philosophy. Psychology. Geology. Biology. The Constitution. Medicine. Law. Common sense. Moralism. Humanity. Souls. Heaven.

Pick any subject that isn’t mispronounceable.

What kind of chicken-in-chief lets iranian navy swiftboat our azz in the straits of hormuz? If he was a real man those iranian skidoos would be in davey jone’s locker. Blackbeard could have knocked those small nats out of the water no sweat.

I suggest we send an armada of PT boats to the straits NOW! (or spanish galleons, whatever) anything but a Bush backed obsolete naval strategy that has been proven to be a scenario for disaster in strategic games. The jap navy also ignored war-games predictions at Midway in 1942. Their wargames showed that they would be blown out of the water. They rewrote the endings and declared themselves the winner of the games, like Bush’s navy did in 2002. The japs lost the war in twenty minutes at Midway. Oil is going up.

By Glenn

January 12, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Luckoduh,

Bang up job top of the morning.

By Glenn

January 12, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Prophetisis,

You know darn well with what impunity under international law our Naval vessels could have blown away those intruders without so much as a word spoken by the speed boat skippers.

TONKIN GULF! TONKIN GULF!

By TW

January 12, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

The ‘GREAT’ tax is just going to bring about big government, you morons. The standard call to the city for local concerns will soon be met with a recording that says ‘sorry, call the state.’ Where have all the conservatives gone? Big government, you idiots, you are inviting big government. Has your selfishness blinded you to the point where you don’t even know what you’re doing any more? Today’s conservative voice has dropped the ball so severely that the end result may very well be the very socialism they profess to despise. Idiots.

By GaVoter

January 12, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

So, Hillary bought Bloomberg to shut down Rudy. Wow. Who would’ve thought. Let’s see. Who bought Perot. Did Oprah buy Obama or vice versa — a little give and take doesn’t hurt. I think it more likely that the Oracle of Omaha did the “buying” and Clinton was doing the “selling” — a taxing scenario for consumption, don’t you think. I wonder who Gates is rooting for — for is it more profitable to be GREAT or FAIR or both or neither. Perplexing.

By getalife

January 12, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

Why do we have to have the most ignorant as-s people in the world looking out for our health and welfare?

Because you vote gop that can’t govern idiot. You get what you vote for.

While Obama is begging for endorsements, Clinton is working hard for change, going door to door in Vegas, getting the Latino vote.

Then she proposed an economic stimulus plan for the recession for the middle class.

Your move Obama, get to work.

By TW

January 12, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

The ‘entity’ in power is now doing to ‘conservative’ what it did to ‘liberal’ at the turn of the century. Perhaps because they invited this filth into their bed, ‘conservative’ will soon be a far worse four letter word than ‘liberal’…

By Profit

January 12, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

I see Glenn is just another run of the mill ZIONIST rooting for an American war with Iran, just like the ZIONIST conspiracy that led directly to the American war with Iraq. Someday, there will be an accounting for the zionist crimes against America…

By GaVoter

January 12, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

I so yearn for the day when a headline reads “The Right Thing to do is Reduce Government”. Better yet, “Government has been Reduced Again”. Talk about conservatives — wouldn’t that be a pleasant change. I think the conservatives in public office have lost their bearings or lost their voices.

By DemDems4Ever

January 12, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

GaVoter @ 10:28

Fundamental change in the political process is the only means to achieve your goal. That change would be a return to the Founding Father’s vision of “Citizen Representatives” and not professional politicians.

The change will have to come at the local level first and bleed up. Or as one of my favorite thinkers repeatedly says “REELECT NOBODY”.

By Disgusted

January 12, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

So, Hillary bought Bloomberg to shut down Rudy. Wow. Who would’ve thought.

Wrong, GAVoter. The only way to save the White House for the Republicans is for Bloomberg to run as an independent. He will draw away the moderate Democrat votes the Democratic nominee needs to win, while far fewer Republicans will vote for him. In the end, Bloomberg will be a much more powerful version of Ralph Nader. He won’t win, of course, but he will assure pluralities for the Republican nominee in many states. The irony, of course, is that the partisanship he will pretend to want to address in Washington will only intensify with a Republican White House and a Democratic Congress.

If, as your writings indicate, you are a Republican, you ought to be applauding Bloomberg’s almost assured entry to the presidential race. He is the only way the Republicans can retain the White House.

By getalife

January 12, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

“While the threat — “I am coming to you. You will explode in a few minutes” — was picked up during the incident, further raising the tension, there’s no proof yet of its origin. And several Navy officials have said it’s difficult to figure out who’s talking.

“Based on my experience operating in that part of the world, where there is a lot of maritime activity, trying to discern [who is speaking on the radio channel] is very hard to do,” Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Gary Roughead told Navy Times during a brief telephone interview on Friday.”

The heckler’s name is the Filipino monkey.

Insert joke here but the gop were debating on this issue. I thought that voice sounded very strange but this guy is nuts.

Wow.

By The Prophet

January 12, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Bush has ruined not just this country, but he’s ruined being human. Bush has ruined everything. He looks like that Hilton serial killer, have you noticed? The two are spitting images of one another.

I am the prohet. I know all about which you all only wish you knew all about….I think. Did that come out okay? bush blows.

By Profit

January 12, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Iran: Bush’s Tonkin Gulf Tale Unravels By Gareth Porter, IPS News. Posted January 11, 2008.

Evidence contradicts U.S. hawks’ claim that Iranian patrol boats threatened U.S. ships, but the media keep reporting it as fact. Tools Despite the official and media portrayal of the incident in the Strait of Hormuz early Monday morning as a serious threat to U.S. ships from Iranian speedboats that nearly resulted in a “battle at sea,” new information over the past three days suggests that the incident did not involve such a threat and that no U.S. commander was on the verge of firing at the Iranian boats. The new information that appears to contradict the original version of the incident includes the revelation that U.S. officials spliced the audio recording of an alleged Iranian threat onto to a videotape of the incident. That suggests that the threatening message may not have come in immediately after the initial warning to Iranian boats from a U.S. warship, as appears to do on the video. Also unraveling the story is testimony from a former U.S. naval officer that non-official chatter is common on the channel used to communicate with the Iranian boats and testimony from the commander of the U.S. 5th fleet that the commanding officers of the U.S. warships involved in the incident never felt the need to warn the Iranians of a possible use of force against them. Further undermining the U.S. version of the incident is a video released by Iran Thursday showing an Iranian naval officer on a small boat hailing one of three ships. The Iranian commander is heard to say, “Coalition warship 73, this is Iranian navy patrol boat.” He then requests the “side numbers” of the U.S. warships. A voice with a U.S. accent replies, “This is coalition warship 73. I am operating in international waters.” The dramatic version of the incident reported by U.S. news media throughout Tuesday and Wednesday suggested that Iranian speedboats, apparently belonging to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard navy, had made moves to attack three U.S. warships entering the Strait and that the U.S. commander had been on the verge of firing at them when they broke off. Typical of the network coverage was a story by ABC’s Jonathan Karl quoting a Pentagon official as saying the Iranian boats “were a heartbeat from being blown up.” Bush administration officials seized on the incident to advance the portrayal of Iran as a threat and to strike a more threatening stance toward Iran. National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley declared Wednesday that the incident “almost involved an exchange of fire between our forces and Iranian forces”. President George W. Bush declared during his Mideast trip Wednesday that there would be “serious consequences” if Iran attacked U.S. ships and repeated his assertion that Iran is “a threat to world peace.” Central to the depiction of the incident as involving a threat to U.S. warships is a mysterious pair of messages that the sailor who heard them onboard immediately interpreted as saying, “I am coming at you…”, and “You will explode after a few minutes.” But the voice in the audio clearly said “I am coming to you,” and the second message was much less clear. Furthermore, as the New York Times noted Thursday, the recording carries no ambient noise, such as the sounds of a motor, the sea or wind, which should have been audible if the broadcast had been made from one of the five small Iranian boats. A veteran U.S. naval officer who had served as a surface warfare officer aboard a U.S. Navy destroyer in the Gulf sent a message to the New York Times on-line column “The Lede” Wednesday pointing out that in the Persian Gulf, the “bridge-to-bridge” radio channel used to communicate between ships “is like a bad CB radio” with many people using it for “hurling racial slurs” and “threats.” The former officer wrote that his “first thought” was that the message “might not have even come from one of the Iranian craft.” Pentagon officials admitted to the Times that they could not rule out that the broadcast might have come from another source The five Iran boats involved were hardly in a position to harm the three U.S. warships. Although Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman described the Iranian boats as “highly maneuverable patrol craft” that were “visibly armed,” he failed to note that these are tiny boats carrying only a two- or three-man crew and that they are normally armed only with machine guns that could do only surface damage to a U.S. ship.

By Profit

January 12, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Did you know that the President can order Delta Force to kill anyone in the world, that the members of Delta have complete immunity from prosecution for executing those orders, and that the members are sworn to an oath of secrecy concerning their acts, and that to reveal the acts is an act of treason and they are subject to immediate execution? How many of the mysterious deaths in the 1990’s of zipper boy’s accusers can be attributed to Delta? Could it have been: 1-James McDougal - Clinton ‘s convicted Whitewater partner died of anapparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a keywitness in Ken Starr’s investigation.> 2 -Mary Maho ney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened justafter she was to go public with her sto ry of sexual harassment in theWhite House. > 3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor, and colleague ofHillary Clinton at Little Rock ‘s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot woundto the head, ruled a suicide.> 4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close tothe investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’sskull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a dealwith prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. Afewdays later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.> 5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fundraising organizatio n died in a private plane crash in July 1992 > 6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director founddead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described byClinton as a “Dear friend and trusted advisor”.> 7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep inthe woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. EdWilley died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed BillClinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey wasinvolved in several Clinton fund raising events. > 8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock . Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outsideLittle Rock . Park’s son said his father was building a dossier onClinton . He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After hedied the files were mysteriously removed from his house.> 9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that hehad a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential peoplewho visited prostitutes in Texas and Ar kansas …> 10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hangingsuicide. He wasreported to have ties to Whitewater.> 11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases,as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant alongwith Bill Clinton i n the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was apossible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.> 12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of KathyFerguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was founddead i n Ju ne, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at thegrave site of his fiancee.> 13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton ‘s friend Dan Lassater, died byjumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was aconvicted drug distributor.> 14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, wasrelated to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died ofthree gunshot wounds. > 15- Suzanne Colem an - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when hewas Arkansas Attorney Gener al. D ied of a gunshot wound to the back ofthe head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.> 16-Paula Grober - Clinton ‘s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.> 17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airportand Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists,apparently, in the middle of his investigation. > 18- < B>Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at MenaAirport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead ona toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered areport to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death. > 19-Jon Pa rnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution TrustCorp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartmentbalcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantyscandal.> 20-Barbara Wise - Commerce D epartment sta ffer. Worked closely withRon Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29,1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at theDepartment of Commerce.> 21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave JohnHuang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a smallplane crash.>

By Luckoduh

January 12, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

{{{{Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee went from Mr. Nice to Mr. Nasty when rival Fred Thompson started calling him what he considered a bad name—a liberal.}}}}

Gee, Fred’s firing it up at just the right time.

{{{{Some people “don’t like to have their records talked about,” Thompson said Friday in Mount Pleasant, S.C. For anyone who didn’t get the reference, Thompson helpfully added, “one of the guys who shall remain named Governor Huckabee.”}}}}

Bwa.

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Here’s the “world” that the Code Pinkos want to rely on:

{{{{“The U.S. Department of Defense is considering the deployment of 3,000 U.S. Marines to Afghanistan, as a result of our NATO allies’ inability to support the combat mission,” Mr. Hunter’s letter said. “In the eyes of Congress, it is unacceptable that the United States must continue to dig deeper into its military force when some of our NATO allies are unwilling to fulfill or make robust commitments to the international effort in Afghanistan.”}}}}

What’s the point, let them hide beneath their beds and whine like any other lib, the United States will just have to carry them on our backs, like we do all these sorry democrats.

Pitiful.

~~~~~

The self centered human Pig cries for it’s power lust while the Bushie sheds tears for the truly oppressed people of the world.

There is a gigantic difference between those who care for themselves first and for those who fight on behalf of freedom and human rights.

Fool yourselves all you want, Bush is a Man, Klintoon is trailer park trash.

By getalife

January 12, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

Too late for lazy fred to finally wake up.

He is out after SC.

Loser.

Show some respect and patriotism for the next President duh.

By getalife

January 12, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Blogging on a Saturday.

I am such a loser.

Somebody shoot me please.

By Luckoduh

January 12, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

{{{{Sharp criticism of Barack Obama and other comments about Martin Luther King Jr. — all from people associated with Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign — have generated resentment among some black S.C. voters.}}}}

{{{{“To some of us, it is painful,” said state Sen. Darrell Jackson, a Clinton supporter.}}}}

{{{{But the state’s only African-American congressman was quoted in The New York Times Friday saying he is reconsidering that stance in light of comments from Clinton.}}}}

{{{{“It is one thing to run a campaign and be respectful of everyone’s motives and actions, and it is something else to denigrate those,” Clyburn told the Times. “That bothered me a great deal.”}}}}

Ahhh, if this dude could only see what KKKlintoon really thinks of him, hahaha.

Maybe we’ll all get lucky, the human Pig will become unhinged and spew something that hasn’t been scripted, vetted and rehearsed fifty times.

Wouldn’t that be fun?

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Let’s check and see what the ArKKKansas KKKlintoon Kampaign does for fun:

{{{{Sindi Blumenthal, an unpaid senior adviser to Hillary Klintoon’s presidential campaign, was arrested in Nashua on the eve of the New Hampshire primary and charged with aggravated DWI, according two members of the Nashua police force.}}}}

{{{{Sgt. Mike Masella, one of the arresting officers, said the movements of a Buick caught his eye. “I observed all his erratic driving,” Masella said. “When I first noticed him it was at an intersection. He abruptly stopped. That caught my eye … He was drifting in his lane.” Masella followed the car, a rental, for a mile and a half, and clocked its speed at 70mph in a 30mph zone—more than twice the legal limit. Masella pulled the car over at 12:30 a.m. Monday morning. Blumenthal told the officer he was returning to his hotel from a restaurant in Manchester. After declining to take a Breathalyzer, Masella says, Blumenthal failed a field sobriety test. Blumenthal was handcuffed, booked, had his fingerprints taken and was held for four hours—standard operating procedure in such arrests in New Hampshire—before posting bail and being released. Because the car was moving at excessive speeds, Blumenthal was given the more serious charge of “aggravated” DWI—which carries a mandatory sentence of at least three days behind bars.}}}}

How nice.

Get loaded up and careen through town at a high rate of speed, innocent civilians be damned, eh?

They’re just stupid POS voters anyway, who cares if you windshield one of them, just have the Bit-ch cry and pick up a replacement dimwit, right?

ArKKKansas trailer park trash.

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Hey, another “global warming” cold snap, now we’re dreaming of a “white” al Qaeda as-s kicking:

{{{{Baghdad residents thought they’d pretty much seen it all. But Friday morning, as muezzins were calling the faithful to prayer, the people here awoke to something certifiably new. For the first time in memory, snow fell across Baghdad.}}}}

{{{{“For the first time in my life I saw a snow-rain like this falling in Baghdad,” said Mohammed Abdul-Hussein, a 63-year-old retiree from the New Baghdad area.}}}}

Must be because the terrorists blew all their cars up, eh?

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{{{{“But then last night — we hadn’t even been thinking about him — all of a sudden it was clear he was the one,” said Mr. Berenberk, a retired teacher. “The bluntness, the forcefulness. He was really impressive.”}}}}

{{{{Many people attending Mr. Thompson’s campaign rallies here on the day after the debate reported having similar revelations.}}}}

Bwa.

By Camus

January 12, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Hi Glenn

Gotta give you points for loyalty, but trust you can time your run for the life boats just right. Rudy is doomed. You guys get either St John or Rev Mike, depending on whether the party elders can thwart the base or not. The rest are just set dressing from here on out.

That’s all for me today. The weather is gorgeous in my hometown, and that Luckydull sucks all the oxygen out of this place during the weekends.

By GaVoter

January 12, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

DemDems @ 10:59,

I guess there’s not much chance of that happening. Change even at the local level is a challenge. There are just too many people who view government at their tool for their use.

Disgusted @ 11:06,

I write with many perspectives. I have voted party tickets for Dems and Reps as well as mixed tickets. I just vote em like I see em. Unfortunately, I think the Law of Unintended Consequences wins out more often than not. So, I don’t know what a Bloomberg would do to the election. Perot made his mark. A friend of mine was tossed between voting Perot versus sticking with the Rep. party line. He ended up voting for Perot and regretted it afterward — not that his one vote would have altered the outcome.

By Glenn

January 12, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Camus,

After Florida, either way, I’ll work myself sick to help stop Huckabee. If he gets the nomination I’ll work against the GOP nominee. He’s reprehensible.

Profitisis,

CNN would love to get W. They showed the footage the Iranians took and released of the incident. By their own admission their boats were buzzing our vessels. In anybody else’s Navy, when that happens, no more boats. Fact.

By @@

January 12, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

Whodathunkit Jim—we’ve got politicians who can’t stay focused on the task at hand.

I’m shocked!

It was Will Rogers that said:

“You’ve got to go out on a limb sometimes because that’s where the fruit is.”

Rudy’s gone out on a limb with his campaign strategy. Fred went out on a limb entering the race late.

I loves me a risk taker.

Emerson:

“Whatever you do, you need courage. Whatever course you decide upon, there is always someone to tell you that you are wrong. There are always difficulties arising that tempt you to believe your critics are right. To map out a course of action and follow it to an end requires some of the same courage that a soldier needs. Peace has its victories, but it takes brave men and women to win them.”

By Cheater Revealer

January 12, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

Glenn Richardson is a serial adulterer who regularly cheats on his wife with a variety of lobbyists and legislative aides. He is a disgusting man who will soon be indicted for several felonies. Do not be tricked by his lies.

By What Voting Republican Gets You

January 12, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

It should be obvious that taking hugely lucrative no-bid contracts from the agency you used to head is not the best way to comport yourself after a career in public service. John Ashcroft (R-Fascist) should know better, though he apparently doesn’t.

Riches are raining down on his consulting firm, the Ashcroft Group, thanks to a former Justice Dept. associate. The group has been handed a contract worth between $28-million and $52-million by Christopher Christie, the top federal prosecutor in New Jersey - a man who used to work for Ashcroft. There was no competitive bidding for this well-compensated work and, according to the New York W******* Times, Christie has been using his position to direct similar arrangements to other connected Fascists.

Ashcroft’s contract has eye-popping numbers. For the sum of $750,000 per month plus between $150,000 and $250,000 per month in expenses, his consulting group will monitor an out-of-court settlement the Justice Department reached with Zimmer Holdings, a medical supply company in Indiana. That company was accused of paying kickbacks to doctors who used their knee and hip implants.

What’s worse than a no-bid contract to a close friend? They write a “no performance” clause into the contract.

Imagine that - they sign a $50M contract for Ashcroft to “monitor” government payouts, but Ashcroft gets paid even if Ashcroft sits home and plays with himself the whole time.

This is why rich Republicans get into politics - to rape the Treasury and play with themselves.

By getalife

January 12, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

“Clinton has been talking about a practical approach to immigration in recent weeks, saying those who favor deportation of illegal immigrants ignore the logistical impossibility. She said it would take $200 billion and a convoy of 200,000 buses stretching 1,700 miles to make the border impenetrable.

“I think Americans would put up with that for a nanosecond,” she said. “Let’s get real here. That will never happen.”

She will get the Latino vote.

By Doncha Just Love Em?

January 12, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

GOP Adulterers Hall of Fame - nominees for 2007

Ronald Reagan: Lived like a Hollywood playboy during his first marriage Richard Mellon Scaife: Rightwing billionaire caught by his wife in LTR with a former hooker Larry Craig: Homo-hating U.S. senator nabbed seeking sex in men’s room David Vitter: Another senator with a morals agenda, his hid an irresistible penchant for prostitutes Dick Morris: Current advisor to Rev. Huckabee, was embroiled in a prostitute scandal in the 1990s that involved toe sucking Ted Haggard: Megachurch founder, Bush advisor and professional homophobe, he was outed by a male escort in 2006 Bob Allen: Homophobic Florida politician tried to buy sex from an undercover cop in the men’s room of a park Richard Curtis: A rightwing gay-hating Washington pol who accused a hustler nicknamed “The Stallion” of extortion

By GaVoter

January 12, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

Here’s some fair taxes for you:

Let the companies that hired all the illegal immigrants pay back taxes to the Fed and states. If the companies don’t want to “fess up” to how much those taxes should be, then we let the IRS figure it out AND let the companies pay the IRS for the man hours of time spent to figure it out.

Start paying taxes on campaign monies — NOW. Collect taxes on contributions, advertisements, salaries, brochure printing……

Charge politicians a nuisance tax. Blah, blah, blah……Don’t these politicians know how annoying it is to listen to their promises that only seem to come around election time.

Charge legislators a tax that increases at a rate that is an integer power of our tax increases.

By The Prophet

January 12, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

This thing in the Persian Gulf with the Iranian Swiftboaters who threw boxes of Fizzies in the water to totally carbonate the sea in front of our navy and making it impossible to steer without crashing into each other like bumper cars, reminds me of when the Chinese kilt all those students at Tienamin Square. And then that one chinese guy stood there in front of those tanks and clothespinned a baseball card on the tank’s spokes so it would make a fake motorcycle sound. That was awesome, man. And so is the Iranian Swiftboaters. I have to say that if I was the commander of that US convoy, I would have blown those brave young men out of the water as soon as I spotted them in my way, but Bush is our Chicken-in-Chief and he apparently dont know how to fight the enemy. Well, that’s fine, you conservatives voted for him, so you can attend his post-POTUS (like that, @@?) $2 mill a speech events. I can just hear him now, after a couple of drinks, and feeling really sprite: “I went into baghdad with the army the american people trusted me with to get Bin Laden, but I wasn’t concerned with Bin Laden, or where he was, I wanted to get Saddam Whose Insane. heh heh, Hussein, heh heh, you know i really hate that guy, I’d like to kick his azz. (Camera to aid reminding bush that Hussein is dead.)…well, he coulda faked that video of his hangin’ you know, you cant trust any intel anymore…except when it’s about wmds and rocket tubes, heh heh, wink wink. drink drink, heh heh, yeah. (Mug, consternation, mug, confused look, Laura B rolls her eyes…”

Yes, war is hell.

What a game in Grenbay! why am I writing comedy?

BRET FAVRE!!!!

I am the Prophet. I sure wish I knew more about stuff.

By Luckoduh

January 12, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Doncha Just Love Em? January 12, 2008 5:38 PM GOP Adulterers Hall of Fame - nominees for 2007}}}}

Dead guys and gay bashing, great Spammie.

By the way, mouth breather, you may want to google “serial rapist Bill Clinton” sometime.

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Ahhh, yes, the vast KKKlintoon knowledge of the world, as seen from high atop New York:

{{{{“Clinton has been talking about a practical approach to immigration in recent weeks, saying those who favor deportation of illegal immigrants ignore the logistical impossibility. She said it would take $200 billion and a convoy of 200,000 buses stretching 1,700 miles to make the border impenetrable.}}}}

Numero Uno: Name one Republican that has advocated “mass deportation.”

Numero Dos: $200 billion??????

Numero Tres: 200,000 buses???????

Oh man, are the Republicans gonna have fun bringing this one back around at the right time.

This human Pig idiot has no freaking clue.

O.K. after you spend the 200 Billion and unload the 200,000 buses, then what, the Mexicans will all be law abiders, never to cross over again?

What about a serious fence, dimwit?

Geez, I’ve never seen such a ridiculous idea.

By getalife

January 12, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

“Hillary strongly believes we need to do more to know who is in our country by securing our borders and ensuring that employers comply with the law against hiring and exploiting undocumented workers. She supports deploying new technology that can help stop the flow of undocumented immigrants into the country and an employer verification system that is universal, accurate, timely, and does not lead to discrimination and abuse by employers.”

Show some respect duh.

By The Prophet

January 12, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

Hi duhng. R U criticizing post-potus (like that, @@? Take it, no, go on, take it. Then folks’ll think that you’re the genius instead of the irregular monthly string pull you truly are.) Bill Clinton for not being gay? Cause THAT’S how you’re coming across, man. Tone it down. You also use words that, well, I dont think they mean what you think they mean. Anyway, we should celebrate our playboys. BTW: there’s nothing wrong with being the way U b……

By @@

January 12, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

What a game in Grenbay! why am I writing comedy?

You’re writing COMEDY?????

Spend your time wisely buddy—focus on Bret Favre cause your comedy game is way off today.

By Luckoduh

January 13, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

There is nothing you can do to stop the huge rolling wave that will wash all these liberal RINOs out to sea where they belong

Bwa.

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Let us allow al-Gitmo to underline the utter ridiculousness of the KKKlintoon campaign:

{{{{By getalife January 12, 2008 5:26 PM Clinton has been talking about a practical approach to immigration in recent weeks, saying those who favor deportation of illegal immigrants ignore the logistical impossibility.}}}}

{{{{By getalife January 12, 2008 6:11 PM “Hillary strongly believes we need to do more to know who is in our country by securing our borders and ensuring that employers comply with the law against hiring and exploiting undocumented workers.}}}}

So we will have 25 million brand new welfare recipients if Klintoon gets the power she lusts after so bad, eh?

————>Or does the human Pig favor amnesty?<————— ~~~~~

{{{{“It simply isn’t true” that there aren’t illegal immigrants, said Ira Mehlman, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, an anti-illegal immigration group. “We have immigration laws, and yet we have government officials who have sworn to uphold the laws of this country saying if somebody violates them, they make an exception to the rule of law.”}}}}

{{{{“On a gut level, we have millions of people getting away with not playing by the rules while we are expected to play by the rules, so there is a sense of unfairness,” he said. “But this also directly affects a lot of people who work for a living, or have kids in school, or rely on social services.”}}}}

{{{{He added, “I’m sure the children of people Hillary Klintoon hangs around with, their kids aren’t sitting in classrooms where half the kids don’t speak English and nobody’s learning anything.”}}}}

Wake that beast up again, you stupid bit-ch.

Pandering for two votes in Nevada, two votes that Reid is apparently too weak minded to deliver, and this human Pig is going to bring the Anti Amnesty Wrath down upon her empty head.

Good.

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Sindy Blumenthal, a senior Hillary Klintoon campaign adviser and former White House aide to Bill Klintoon, was arrested this week for drunk driving in New Hampshire, one day before the state’s presidential primary. When Blumenthal, pictured in the below Nashua Police Department mug shot, showed signs of intoxication, a cop gave him a field sobriety test, which the Klintoon operative failed. Blumenthal, who declined to take a Breathalyzer test, was booked into the Nashua lockup on an aggravated DWI charge. The misdemeanor rap is considered “aggravated” because Blumenthal was speeding when his vehicle was stopped at 12:30 AM Monday.

We now return to our regularly scheduled whining about the “drunken” Bushie.

Bwa.

~~~~~

Uh-oh, yahoo “news” let the cat out of the bag:

{{{{Chris Matthews also has a history: The liberal watchdog Media Matters for America (created by KKKlintoon) counted more than eight negative remarks Matthews made about Clinton for every positive one during September, October and November.}}}}

Whining about Matthews got so good to them that they forgot to edit the story, hahaha.

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{{{{Most significant of all, the new partnership deal with Iraq, including a status of forces agreement that would then replace the existing Security Council mandate authorizing the presence of the U.S.-led multinational forces in Iraq, will become a sworn obligation for the next president. It will become just another piece of the complex global security framework involving a hundred or so countries with which Washington now has bilateral defense or security cooperation agreements. Last month, Sen. Hillary KKKlintoon urged Bush not to commit to any such agreement without congressional approval. The president said nothing about that on Saturday, but Lute said last fall that the Iraqi agreement would not likely rise to the level of a formal treaty requiring Senate ratification. Even so, it would be difficult if not impossible for future presidents to unilaterally breach such a pact.}}}}

AJC, can you say victory?

Better learn, because you have no choice now.

Hehehehe.

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{{{{The nation’s intelligence chief says waterboarding “would be torture” if used against him or if someone under interrogation actually was taking water into his lungs. But Mike McConnell, in a magazine interview, declined for legal reasons to say whether the technique categorically should be considered torture.-Whiny Times}}}}

The bleeding heart surrender monkey liberals are torturing me with their every day whining and wailing about how we treat the throat cutting women and children killing terrorists.

It’s good for me that the democrat Congress takes so much damn time off from “work” during the year or they would have “broken” me by now.

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{{{{Two new reports on the assassination last month of Pakistani opposition leader Benazir Bhutto suggest that the killing may have been an ambitious plot rather than an isolated act of violence…}}}}

An isolated act of violence???

Yes, it’s everyday that some lone gunman kook decides to take on an armored car and shoot a woman, that he doesn’t even know, with her head stuck out the top.

Geez.

What great lengths the scumbags at the Atlanta Urinal will go to protect Al Qaeda, even when it makes them look like blooming idiots.

~~~~~

Not one bit of Iraqi news in the Urinal today, so allow me:

{{{{“We’ve seen that some of the (neighborhood councils) are starting to get involved in fuel distribution and security, and we encourage you to find local solutions to local problems,” Watson said to those in attendance. “We’ve already done a great deal of reconciliation locally, and the goal is to demonstrate to the government of Iraq that Doura is a great place.”}}}}

{{{{“We just finished the fighting, and now we have another effort; to rebuild the area,” said Iraqi Lt. Col. Kadhem, commander of the 2nd Battalion, 7th Brigade, 2nd National Police Division.}}}}

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Parade Magazine continues on with their absolute cluelessness:

{{{{Who’s Left In The Coalition?- When the U.S. invaded Iraq in the spring of 2003, we had 47,200 combat troops from three nations with us. In March 2004, there were 24,000 troops from 33 countries. Today, the number of foreign troops has dropped below 12,000, according to the Brookings Institution’s Iraq Index….Says Brookings’ Michael O’Hanlon: “The military mission in Iraq is increasingly just a U.S.-Iraqi enterprise.” He adds that we can expect less help as time passes, “even given improvements on the ground and a new President.”}}}}

Gee, it’s almost like someday all of the troops will be gone from Iraq, gosh, I wonder what that means?

By Craig

January 13, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

Very wise column, Jim.

Duh, you’re a bore.

By The Prophet

January 13, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

Palette cleanse. (If Hilton blogged, it would look exactly like Duhng’s ravings. Insanity creeps in on little cat feet. Aye yii yiiiiii)

Duhng. Promise us all that you will never blog again. Just dont. Save yourself man. It’s like you cant stand the world as it exists, and you have to try to control planet formation or something by shouting in the wind, like the voice in the desert, like John the Hapless.

or something.

By Glenn

January 13, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Well it takes one to know one, Prophet. By the way, are you by chance related to The Prophetess? She and I are like, that close. She negotiated with me once.

Duh, you’re heroic.

PoFo, you keep pulling the special whiskers that make me want to point out with what impunity under international law our naval vessels could have blown away those intruder boats without a word having passed between them. And we need only know what we do from viewing the Iranians’ footage of the incident to see that the speed boats were illegally and foolishly close to the ships. I think our people exercised admirable restraint and showed the kind of professionally one would normally associate, in happier days, with, say, Anapolis.

Well, I’m off to church now, to pray for PoFo.

By Luckoduh

January 13, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

{{{{Pam Burnett, who often walks her dogs at Murphey Candler Park in DeKalb, said Hilton often hung out there, acting strangely, carrying an expandable baton and sometimes yelling at her to keep her dogs away from him. Burnett said Hilton once threatened her and her dogs with a stick in 2004. She said she called 911 and DeKalb County police responded by questioning him at the park.}}}}

Polly: You wouldn’t happen to have an “expandable baton,” do you?

I’ll try to “keep my dogs away” from you, O.K?

By The Prophet

January 13, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

@@, you know, I’ve been giving you a pass lately, because I found out a while back about your condition, and I respect that you’re very sensitive to slight innuendos or even a vague hint of criticism or teasing. But you, like Duhng, are a very dull boy. I know we all want to be stars. We all want to matter. We see something funny on seinfeld and we all ape it, or sat. nite live, or mad tv, or the office, or if we see a new end zone dance, we’ll all do it at the water cooler at work. Well, let me tell you something, mister, we is not WE, it’s only YOU who think everyone enjoys your constant acting out. We dont. We dont all do it. you do it. Let the professionals, or the geniuses do the comedy. You can laugh, and think it’s great, and wish you had thought of it, but stfu. Dont be so bitter simply because I didn’t find you or duhng as brilliant as you found me.

Enjoy the planet around you. Awe at it’s structure, but quit trying to be the hot magma.

I am a reverse idiot savant, okay? that means I’m an expert in every known subject except one, and they haven’t found that one subject yet. (I think it’s osmosis. I mean, give me a break, how are things supposed to spontaneously permeate a membrane for no reason? I dont get it. What? IF that were possible, then a douche bag wouldn’t work. Why, a blow up doll would deflate in days, not months. It just dont make no sense no how.)

have a nice day, and stay off the blog

moron.

By Profit

January 13, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

Speaking of tax and spend dummycrats, look at what the amoral Clinton Maffia has done to a poor girl: The Clintons will tell any lie, betray any friend, to gain and keep power. Power for power’s sake is what drives this corrupt, EVIL couple. Read this quote from the young jewish intern who was seduced and soiled by the President of the United States in the Oval Office on the Great Seal of the United States.

“After Clinton’s autobiography My Life appeared in 2004, Lewinsky said in an interview with the British tabloid Daily Mail:”

“He could have made it right with the book, but he hasn’t. He is a revisionist of history. He has lied. (…) I really didn’t expect him to go into detail about our relationship (…) But if he had and he’d done it honestly, I wouldn’t have minded…. I did, though, at least expect him to correct the false statements he made when he was trying to protect the Presidency. Instead, he talked about it as though I had laid it all out there for the taking. I was the buffet and he just couldn’t resist the dessert. (…) That’s not how it was. This was a mutual relationship, mutual on all levels, right from the way it started and all the way through. … I don’t accept that he had to completely desecrate my character.”

A man of honor would have taken full responsibility for the moletation of a young woman only a few years out of childhood. There was more than a 20 years age difference, an infinite gap in power, yet this blow job obtained under color of authority is blamed on the young woman.

By The Prophet

January 13, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

Look, Profit, I’m the Prophet, and I couldn’t have resisted taking a swing at Lewinsky, either. None of us non-gays could have, yes, she was that hot.. Are you criticizing the post-potus for his hocus-pocus about the pole-honkus? I mean, come on. Clinton is the third president from the left on the sexual-revolutionary chart. Show a little respect, mon.

Is there anything worse than a kockblocker?

By Profit

January 13, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

Ah kind like @@, keep it up there boy, Ah likes it.

By @@

January 13, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

But you, like Duhng, are a very dull boy.

Oh really…

you’re the one talking about douching a plastic love interest. That sounds like a pretty dull life indeed, but it’s nice to know you’ve finally figured out how to protect yourself from viruses.

Sometimes I do find you funny PoliFore it’s just that yesterday wasn’t one of those days.

You’re welcome for the critique. Don’t take it so personally. Read it as constructive criticism.

Blog on….

By The Prophet

January 13, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

I am the Prophet. I know all. I see all.

Round tables this morning hopefully will stay off the campaign, Iraq, Palestine, and Hannah Montana body doubles. Imagine that though, Hannah uses a stunt double for all those vocal gymnastics she cant do. Can any of our millionaire pop stars actually sing? It’s like when the Monkeys Milli-Vanilli’d their career by putting out an album where they were the only ones who performed. Oh, it was a good album. (Camera to the Bataan Death March).

By Luckoduh

January 13, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

{{{{MANAMA, Bahrain — President Bush yesterday praised the Iraqi parliament for passing a reconciliation law, an action seen as undercutting Democrats’ criticism of his Iraq policy.}}}}

{{{{The parliament approved the reconciliation bill by a unanimous show of hands on each of its 30 clauses. The legislation can become law only when also approved by Iraq’s presidential council. The council, made up of Iraq’s president and two vice presidents, is expected to ratify the measure.}}}}

There goes the Reid-Pelosi surrender monkey strategy right into the ole trash can.

Meanwhile, the Urinal remains eerily silent on this good news from Iraq.

They wouldn’t be trying to influence an election, would they?

By ray

January 13, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

let us all include the president’s battle with alcoholism in our prayers this morning. while there is forever a polarized veiw of the man, let us agree that his battle with alcohol should at this time not only be front and center for he and laura, but for our country as well.

By getalife

January 13, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

US Intelligence Chief: Waterboarding Is Torture

Duh.

Let the trials begin.

By Profit

January 13, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

ray - has the chimp fallen off the wagon again! I sure hope the Muslim guv’s don’t arrest him for violating their laws while in country? Exactly what is the State Department protocol for dealing with a drunk president in a country where it is a crime to possess or consume alcohol?

By The Prophet

January 13, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

Hillary on meet the press. Her judgement is suspect. In 2002, she naively thought that by voting for the war she was voting for authorization to send in the inspectors one last time. She should just say she was wrong, and move on, but she keeps tripping on this war vote.

By getalife

January 13, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

NY Times Special Report: 121 Iraq, Afghan Vets Charged With Killing Upon Returning Home

Just more wasted lives and now w is working on a treaty to remain in Iraq with out Congressional approval. They are hoping to sign it right before the conventions.

By Profit

January 13, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Clinton adviser charged with DWI Posted: 09:30 AM ET

Sidney Blumenthal is an unpaid adviser to Hillary Clinton. NASHUA, New Hampshire (AP) – A senior adviser to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton was arrested and charged with aggravated drunken driving a day before the New Hampshire primary.

Nashua police say Sidney Blumenthal was arrested early Monday morning after an officer pulled over a car traveling 70 mph in a 30 mph zone. Blumenthal, 59, is a journalist and former White House adviser to President Bill Clinton who is now serving as an unpaid adviser on Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

“I asked if he was here with a campaign. He said he was here with Clinton,” Sgt. Mike Masella, one of the arresting officers, told newsweek.com.

Masella said Blumenthal told him he got lost after leaving a restaurant in Manchester, about 20 miles away, to return to his hotel.

Smelling alcohol, officers said they administered a field sobriety test, which Blumenthal failed. Though Blumenthal declined to take a Breathalyzer test, he was arrested on a charge of aggravated drunken driving due to the speed, Masella said.

A handcuffed Blumenthal spent about four hours at a police station before being bailed out Monday morning, Masella said.

Blumenthal will be arraigned later this month.

His lawyer, Raymond Mello of Nashua, did not immediately respond to a message left at his office on Saturday morning. A Clinton campaign spokeswoman had no comment on the matter when reached Saturday.

Filed under: Hillary Clinton, B I TC H

By TW

January 13, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

If congress did not declare war, how did Hillary vote for it? If she’s guilty of anything, it’s of having expected the president to be…presidential.

Again, compliments to all the Republican candidates for not wearing bags on their heads.

By Ga Liberal

January 13, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Moron Jim says: It has served an entirely useful purpose in that it has introduced Georgia to a new speaker as a leader willing to think big and take risks.

Let’s be clear here. The only big thinking by Mr. Richardson is how to cement Rethuglicon control over the entire state. With his plan, every county and city will be forced to come begging to the Rethuglicon controlled legislature for any money. Any county or city that dares to elect a non-Rethuglicon to office - be state, county, or city government - will pay the price. Want money for some road repairs? Forget it. A new computers for the schools? Make due with the old ones. Maybe next time you’ll be sure to elect only Rethuglicons.

Glenn Richardson is known for his vindictiveness and just being plain mean. This ‘tax reform’ is just the club he needs and he will wield with impunity. He wants to create a Rethuglicon dynasty and too many people are all to willing to believe his lies. Richardson and the Rethuglicons could care less if your taxes are reduced. They could care less if your life is made harder. All they care about is control and with control comes power.

This is why I use the term ‘Rethuglicon.’ All they are is a bunch of thugs and con men. If you dare disagree with them, you are a terrorist lover or a socialist or a Commie, or unAmerican. They con people into voting for them by lying about cutting taxes and ‘wasteful government spending.’ They vilify groups like homosexuals and illegal immigrants and use them as a devisive wedge. These people are the worst kind of politician; only intersted in themselves and yet people continue to believe them and their lies. Doesn’t speak will of Georgia voters.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And Glenn Richardson is living proof.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

TW,

Here’s the name of the bill Senator Clinton voted for in 2002.

Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002

Sounds pretty specific, doesn’t it?

What’s that fairy tale about how Bush should have prevented 9/11 because of the title of a PDB?

By PiedmontPark

January 13, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

This is the first time that I have commented on the so-called GREAT plan. On its face, the plan sounds as if it would do the right thing by eliminating the tax burden on property owners. There is a problem with this of course, how will all of the various services provided by local goverment be funded? According to this “plan”, they will be funded by increased sales taxes (a higher sales tax rate that includes food and services). If successful, the plan will meet the following goals:

  • Shift the tax burden from property owners (who can sometimes own significant amounts of property) and onto the backs of those who must spend the majority of their income.
  • Centralize the control over the distribution of the collect funds. How the tax money is distributed & spend will be under the control of the state legislature, and not the local goverment.
  • There are a large number of problems with the “plan” 1. The often presented argument that the sources of funds for local services will be at risk due to the changes in the economy and business cycle. 2. Under the current system, you can attend your local governing body (city council / county commision) and express your opion about how how the money is spent. You cannot do that during a session of the general assembly. In other words, you, through your local officals, will no longer have any say in how your tax money is spent. That decison will be made for you by someone who does not even reside in your community. Ultimately, this is about your community having control of how your money is being spent.

    By getalife

    January 13, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

    The gop brought that bill to the floor and she stated it should be as a last resort.

    So did Edwards who warmongered on Iran and Obama stated he did not know how he would have voted, probably present.

    w will try to save the gop with a treaty right before the conventions as the genocide continues.

    By two words

    January 13, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

    Grady Hospital.

    By getalife

    January 13, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

    “Forced to go on the defensive, Clinton was defiant, accusing Russert of not giving full quotes, and condemned the media for taking things she and her husband have said out of context. Given the framing of the questions, Hillary was cornered into clarifying her previous statements about Martin Luther King Jr. and defend her record on civil rights. Clinton held her own and was given ample time to defend herself and draw comparisons between her campaign and Barack Obama’s, but this probably wasn’t the way she wanted to start this interview.”

    Attack the corporate media with that corporate crap they spew.

    Great on the issues that are important. Working hard for change while Obama has slacked off.

    Get to work Obama. She got the Latino vote.

    By Redneck Convert

    January 13, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

    Well, it looks like this Duh guy needs some of the same help TFTT is getting. His heart is Right but it ain’t wired to his brain. We all hate libruls but we don’t spout off a bunch of gibberish all the time. Duh is like a stopped up man. After awhile something gets the stuff going and it just floods out. God only knows what will happen to Duh if this Hillary woman gets elected. He needs to get Right with the Lord now and get Healed before its too late and he just goes nuts.

    Anyhow, I don’t want to hear no more about this GREAT plan. The price of Skoal and Red Man is already out of sight and we sure don’t need to be paying a extra quarter every time we spend a buck. Far as I’m concerned the people that own the big mansions can keep on paying property tax. Even if it does go against Free Innerprize and the right of people with the big bucks to call the shots. I become almost a librul when people want to raise the price of Skoal and Red Man.

    I wish people would leave this @@ alone and calling her he and his and such. Everybody knows she’s a woman so her opinion don’t count and so it don’t hurt none either. Have a good day everybody.

    By Luckoduh

    January 13, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

    Let us all hear the human Pig speak, lest there be any doubt about what the dimwit said:

    {{{{Now, I believe the facts that have brought us to this fateful vote are not in doubt. Saddam Hussein is a tyrant who has tortured and killed his own people, even his own family members, to maintain his iron grip on power. He used chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds and on Iranians, killing over 20 thousand people. Unfortunately, during the 1980’s, while he engaged in such horrific activity, he enjoyed the support of the American government, because he had oil and was seen as a counterweight to the Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran.}}}}

    {{{{In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and abroad.}}}}

    {{{{ In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, (Bwa) though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001.}}}}

    {{{{It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.}}}}

    {{{{If we get the resolution and Saddam does not comply, then we can attack him with far more support and legitimacy than we would have otherwise.}}}}

    That was spewed on October the 10th, 2002.

    5 months later (some “rush” to war:)

    {{{{When the President of the United States addresses the nation about possible military action, it is a solemn occasion for every American. Tonight, the President gave Saddam Hussein one last chance to avoid war, and the world hopes that Saddam Hussein will finally hear this ultimatum, understand the severity of those words, and act accordingly. While we wish there were more international support for the effort to disarm Saddam Hussein, at this critical juncture it is important for all of us to come together in support of our troops and pray that, if war does occur, this mission is accomplished swiftly and decisively with minimum loss of life and civilian casualties. I have had the honor of meeting and speaking with many of our brave men and women in uniform. They are the best trained, equipped, and motivated military in the entire world, we support them fully and we are grateful for their courageous service in these difficult times.- KKKlintoon}}}}

    Any questions?

    By RW-(the original)

    January 13, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

    getalife,

    She voted against the Levin Amendment. Quit trying to revise history for political expedience.

    By The Prophet

    January 13, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

    The manning brothers are on tv all day long!

    lovin football here

    I am the Prophet. I love football. I love cheerleaders. I love the forward pass. I love the run. I love the pretend-to-run and then pass. I love the pretend-to-run and then make a pass at the cheerleaders…..

    By getalife

    January 13, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

    RW,

    The gop rubber stamp congress brought this to a vote and the decider decided to stop looking for WMD’s and occupy Iraq. This is his decision. Period.

    He cut and run from obl in Tora Bora to do this occupation.

    Those are facts, not rewriting history.

    By RW-(the original)

    January 13, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

    getalife,

    When Obambi wins Nevada with this bizarre forced voting in the workplace setup you Democrats have come up with for Nevada are you going to careen back onto his bandwagon?

    By getalife

    January 13, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

    Did she see her attack timmah and corporate media today?

    Great stuff.

    By @@

    January 13, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

    I see you took my advice PoliFore—you’re blogging on. You’re still fumbling in the comedy game though. Try harder!

    Aawwwhhh Getalife. Somehow I’ve always known you were a sucker for a woman’s tears (sniff sniff), but that sometimes you do know what you’re talking about:

    Obama stated he did not know how he would have voted, probably present.

    By getalife

    January 13, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

    @@,

    The crying game is boner’s thing along with many men like w in Israel.

    I think the corporate media helped her by playing it over and over.

    You will see the Clinton machine destroy Obama and he will cry on Oprah.

    By Bubba Li Cious

    January 13, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

    I don’t know what the ruckus is all about with this tax on services and what not. Heck, it ain’t like it will make any difference to no one cept them city dwellers. We care as much about it as we do tax on moonshine or buyin it on Sunday. Why cousin Mary Ellen will take care of all the hair stylin for the ladies and Bobby Joe says us gentlemen don’t have to worry cause we dont get haircuts anyway. Then theres the food. Well, we dont buy that store stuff. What we cant grow, we shoot. It’s that simple. I reckon the hardest thing will be the doctorin. There’s only one vet up in these parts so we have to share him with the horses and cows and women birthin and what not. But he do work cheap. Last time I got the shingles, he fixed me right up and all I had to do was paint his barn and give him a year’s supply of antiseptic. I thought that was Fair — not GREAT mind you — just Fair.

    By @@

    January 13, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

    My goodness Getalife!!! What has become of you? Praising the corporate media and cheering on the Clinton’s vicious attack of our first African American candidate for president.

    Who are you?

    I remember seeing Bill Clinton cry.

    Did he cry before the boner or after?

    By Luckoduh

    January 13, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

    If you thought it was sick and disgusting to see the Ku Klux Klinton machine, a bunch of vile, marauding drunken drivers spew it’s repulsive and despicable racist hatred upon the up and coming black man, look upon with horror as this filthy beast turns it’s wanton attention on the poor guy’s church:

    {{{{Dirt begins to fly at Obama- When Hillary Clinton warned that Barack Obama had not been thoroughly “vetted”, as she has been, she was hinting darkly at trouble to come over her rival’s radical pastor and shady patron in Chicago, the Illinois senator’s home town.}}}}

    Radical?

    Well, let’s just see:

    {{{{We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian… Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain “true to our native land,” the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.- Trinity Church Of Christ}}}}

    Oh, so now this is radical, eh?

    After all these years of bowing at the feet of Farrakhan, Jackson and all the other myriad religious groups that the Ku Klux Klintons hustled for votes, we finally find out what they really think.

    This should go over real well, hahaha.

    Lovin it.

    Redneck “Convert”- Yes, there is no doubt that this sickness in the White House would make me ill, that’s because I love this land that we call the United States and I do not want to see it Un United over the actions of some partisan political goons, monkeys and hacks.

    They just attacked the religion of millions of black people, in a nation that is 87% Christian, I can not believe my eyes.

    What’s next on this pervert’s hitlist, apple pie?

    Baseball?

    These vulgar wretches will stoop to the very bottom to sate their depraved lust for power.

    By getalife

    January 13, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

    RW,

    No, I want the Clintons to get all the power w and cheney have to even things up and clean up his mess.

    Plus, it is fun messing with the ones inflicted with CDS.

    By Luckoduh

    January 13, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

    Ahhh, the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klintons ride again, alighting thier crosses as they lynch their way across America:

    {{{{“We have to peel back his identity,” said one elderly white voter in South Carolina, a state Obama must win on January 26. “Did you know his middle name is Hussein? He is a Muslim and was raised in an Islamic school.”}}}}

    I’ll bet Hitler is just vibrating with joy in his little part of hell.

    {{{{The same southern voter, who did not wish to be named, then threw another piece of Obama’s biography into the frame. “I looked at his church’s website. It said it was ‘unashamedly black’. They don’t want any whites there. I wouldn’t feel real comfortable if I tried to worship there.”}}}}

    Great, so the hacks and goons that only attend black churches during election years are thinking about joining the membership, eh?

    {{{{The website www.hillaryis44.com, widely viewed as an unofficial arm of the Clinton war room, has taken up the scandal with gusto and is offering a Rezko for Dummies guide on its site. “Imagine this,” it crows. “A Chicago politician wants things he can’t afford. Wifey likes expensive things and wants a big mansion to live in.”}}}}

    Oh. My. God.

    This is you, liberals, we have finally pulled you out of your ratholes and into the light for all to see what you truly are and what you really think.

    Party time.

    Come on, y’all, tell us how great your Klintons are.

    By The Prophet

    January 13, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

    Manning not overwhelming the Chargers. Two minutes left in the half. If San Diego can get the touch…or tie it up…I dont like manning this year, he hasn’t proven himself to me at all….This is the healthy colts? They have no chance next week if they win.

    By @@

    January 13, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

    Oh my…that is an interesting site:

    Obama’s wife, Michelle, had fortuitously received all sorts of financial benefits from her new found status as wife of a U.S. Senator - including a promotion and a $316,962 salary from the hospital she worked at.

    I guess they’re implying she, an African American woman was incapable of making it on individual merit alone?

    Wasn’t Hillary’s plan to make it to the Oval Office on Bill’s presidency?

    Getalife…are you sure you want to cozy up with Hillary and her supporters?

    I would say I’m shocked, but I’m not—I’ve always viewed the liberal elites as racists—Hillary and Bill being the worst among them. It was bound to come out one day.

    By getalife

    January 13, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

    @@,

    Your party screams of “white flour”.

    Look at your candidates.

    Geez.

    By getalife

    January 13, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

    Actually, the Obama’s are very successful and President Clinton was called the first black President.

    w let NO drown and governs for the elites.

    Your candidates will stay that course.

    She will govern for the rest of Americans not the elites.

    By @@

    January 13, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

    White flour candidates? What about Keyes Getalife?

    I’d love to see J.C. Watts or Michael Steele make a run. I don’t know that much about Watts, but my husband likes him.

    I love Michael Steele. He reminds me of Rudy with his “we can get it done” attitude.

    Bush let NO drown? Where was Nagin and Blanco—sitting on the banks?

    By Luckoduh

    January 13, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

    {{{{Russert opened the show by reading to her from the front page of The State, South Carolina’s largest newspaper, which reported Saturday: “Sharp criticism of Barack Obama and other comments about Martin Luther King Jr. — all from people associated with Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign — have generated resentment among some black S.C. voters…..” Russert read a bit more, then asked what all the fuss was about.}}}}

    {{{{“Beats me, because there’s not one shred of truth in what you’ve just read,” Ku Klux Klintoon said, adding that King “is one of the people that I admire most in the world.”}}}}

    So what else could this possibly mean:

    {{{{“Dr. King’s dream began to be realized when President Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the president before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done.”-Ku Klux Klintoon}}}}

    So what did you mean exactly:

    {{{{“This is, you know, a, a — an unfortunate story line that the Obama campaign has pushed very successfully,” Ku Klux Klintoon said. “They’ve been putting out talking points. They’ve been making this — they’ve been telling people, in a very selective way, what the facts are.”}}}}

    That’s nice but what does that quote mean, exactly?:

    {{{{“Clearly, we know from media reports that the Obama campaign is deliberately distorting this,” Ku Klux Klinton said. “It is such an unfair and unwarranted attempt to, you know, misinterpret and mischaracterize what I’ve said.”}}}}

    What did you say!

    {{{{By getalife January 13, 2008 12:24 PM “Forced to go on the defensive, Clinton was defiant, accusing Russert of not giving full quotes, and condemned the media for taking things she and her husband have said out of context. Given the framing of the questions, Hillary was cornered into clarifying her previous statements about Martin Luther King Jr. and defend her record on civil rights. Clinton held her own and was given ample time to defend herself and draw comparisons between her campaign and Barack Obama’s, but this probably wasn’t the way she wanted to start this interview.”}}}}

    Excuse me, but I didn’t hear anything get “clarified,” all I heard was this dimwit racist spin and twist.

    That’s good enough for you, eh, Gitmo?

    By getalife

    January 13, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

    Keyes is a kook, not in the debates. Too bad, I like hearing him rage against the machine.

    duh,

    One hour with timmah and she ruled that debate.

    Like President Clinton said, she will have a fight winning the nomination but will win the general easily.

    Your mental health will need treatment huh?

    By Realrep

    January 13, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

    Mike salutes Mr. Wooten for talking about the GREAT Tax.

    Many thanks to all those real Real republicans in the south for keeping the conservative faith by seeing through the imposters Romney and Thompson. The last thing our party needs is four more years of failure.

    A vote for Giuliani is a vote for Hillary.

    Huckabee ‘08

    By Glenn

    January 13, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

    GaLiberal,

    Well ah’ll be. Now that you explain your use of the term “Rethuglican”, it makes sense. It does indeed name a recognizable phenomenon, the menacing pigeonholing of anyone who disagrees with God’s Own People on the Right. It does happen. It happens increasingly, though it’s happened more intensely at earlier times in our history, and to subgroups as well as to the Peeps at large. And it is thuggish, isn’t it?

    Now that you’ve got me thinking about it, it reminds me of that creepy feeling I got in Guatemala, Nicaragua, Honduras and even to some extent Costa Rica in the late ’70s when the wars were raging. I never covered El Salvador, but it must’ve been worst there. If you disagreed with the Right (which usually meant ultimately the generals, on the CIA dole) you were branded a “Communist”, a word that had a special meaning to them, as in marked for death. They were given a broad brief by their Machiavellian paymasters in Langley to use this label against anyone at all, including American journalists, nuns, clerics and missionaries religious and lay.

    Our quaint constitutionalism, “chilling effect”, is about 40 degrees Celsius too warm for the atmosphere, the climate thereby created. Some of my dear friends are dead and disappeared Communists. Which is to say people who wanted to teach the Indians to read, and to keep their newspapers of record open to public debate, and their nations “flying a clean flag”, as the poet Patchen put it.

    Pinche Communistas!

    By getalife

    January 13, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

    BET founder slams Obama:

    “And to me, as an African-American, I am frankly insulted that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues since Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood –­ and I won’t say what he was doing, but he said it in the book –­ when they have been involved.”

    Ouch but that ain’t nothing to what the gop will do.

    “It takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush”

    By @@

    January 13, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

    seeing through the imposters…… THOMPSON?

    Ain’t no way you can see through Thompson….he’s rock solid.

    I’ll take Fred! Actually Fred is the only candidate to whom I sent money.

    I’m good with a Giuliani/Thompson or Thompson/Giuliani ticket in 08.

    Heck, I was good yesterday…I’m good today, and I’ll be good tomorrow.

    No Whoas is me for a conservative who believes all things are not only possible but achievable.

    By OneForTheRoad

    January 13, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

    The original GREAT plan was geared toward eliminating all property tax but Good Ole Boy Glenn couldn’t sell that one to his Good Ole Boy County Commissioners and Managers. So, he changed it to go strictly for the education portion instead. He probably got a nod from enough counties to go ahead with that plan. Maybe he figures that he can go after the rest of the property tax a lot easier once he takes over the education portion. I would have preferred the opposite approach myself. After all, the education system at least has value added. The county commissioners and managers are just a tax burden that serve no useful purpose — much like most of the legislators.

    By Glenn

    January 13, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

    This state is full of clever and competent people too smart to show it in a place where ordinary competence can be shocking. (See the Mayor of 10-Miles-to-Rome, above.)

    But there cannot be anyone who has the ear of Statehouse leadership, Rethuglican or Democratic, and also possesses the prescience the anticipate the chain of terrible imponderables that would be set in motion by changing the property tax structure and therefore the structure of school finance. And the bracing truth is that there is no way to change the property tax structure without upsetting Georgia’s school funding, a subject of some interest to the courts for, oh, some 50 years.

    Any attempts to backfill foregone school revenues (to replace reduced property tax revenues with others) will be attended by new sets of strings, and new sets of newly emboldened string-pullers, and sets of newly disempowered former string-pullers, and suits and court orders, and all of it redounding to the benefit of the usual suspects and by that time race will be dragged out and whupped to bloody rags too.

    Those Statehouse yokels have no frigging idea what they’re futzing with. Let’s not let them find out on our watch, if we can help it.

    [A Vote for Mike is a Vote for Jimmy]

    By Luckoduh

    January 13, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

    al-Gitmo goes to Hollywood^^, eh?

    {{{{Johnson, founder of BET, also used another rhetorical device that went badly for the Clinton campaign — seemingly referencing Obama’s past drug use.}}}}

    We got us a full fledged flame out.

    {{{{Democrat John Edwards on Sunday criticized comments by Hillary Rodham Clinton and her husband that some have considered disparaging to Barack Obama and black people generally.}}}}

    {{{{“I’m going to say I was troubled recently to see a suggestion that real change came not through the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, but through a Washington politician. I fundamentally disagree with that. Those who believe that real change starts with Washington politicians have been in Washington too long and are living in a fairytale. Real change has never started in Washington. Real change came from those who fought in the trenches … those who shed their blood, sweat, and tears … and those who suffered broken bones,” Edwards said.}}}}

    Wait till Edwards hears that the Ku Klux Klintoons called Michelle Obama “wifey.”

    {{{{But unlike King, who Clinton noted had marched, organized, protested, and was gassed, beaten and jailed, Obama is merely giving speeches about his commitment to racial equality.}}}}

    Yeah, it ain’t like Obama is black or anything, you know, who is he to speak about racial equality?

    Isn’t it wonderful to see ArKKKansas white trash judging a black man’s bonafides for racial issues?

    Keep that mouth open, human Pig, Ku Klux Klintoon, soon enough we won’t have to worry about you anymore.

    And what a student of history this Pig is:

    {{{{Clinton added that King deserves “the lion share of the credit” for moving the country and political process forward, but he couldn’t have done it without “partners who were in the political system.”}}}}

    {{{{LBJ’s explanation of why he backed the Civil Rights Act of 1957: “These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.”}}}}

    Some “partner.”

    And what does it say that Ku Klux Klintoon thinks this bigot Johnson, and she just repeated it, had more to do with civil rights than the “uppity” MLK did?

    Sounds to me like MLK forced the bigot to act.

    I hate to say it but look who agrees with me:

    {{{{Sen. John Kerry, who endorsed Obama last week, also spoke Sunday about the argument that played out this week, saying everyone knows it was people like King, who demonstrated and took action on the ground before the outlook changed in Washington. He added that Obama is better poised than Clinton — because of his race — to speak with marginalized African Americans.}}}}

    Bwa.

    By Ga Liberal

    January 13, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

    Why is it that Rethuglicon drones and jackboot lickers like Lukoduh and Profit have to make these insanely long and off-topic posts? And not just once or twice, but three and four times. Profit’s rant about the Clintons is the same crap that’s been discredited time and again. Only someone so desperate for attention would have time to post such junk. Get a life there, Profit.

    And Glenn, I’m not sure of your point about the term ‘Rethuglicon.’ I guess your comparing the same repressive governments in Central America to what we are experiencing today with theocratic and arrogant Bush administration. I agree that Bush and his buddies have severly damaged the country and basically set up a caste society where all they care about is - a Bush himself said - the haves and the have mores. Hell with everyone else. Also, one could argue that Bush and Cheney are one of the biggest mass murders in history. Well over 100,000 Iraqis have been killed either directly by American forces or by suicide bombers who are there because of Bush’s unnecessary and mismanaged invasion. But, Bush isn’t completely at fault. If not for ignorant and revenge-driven voters either be cowed into voting for Bush or actually beliving his lies, he would not be in office. So I can see how one could draw the parallel. But my entire issue isn’t just with Bush; it’s with the Rethuglicon party. If Lincoln was alive today, he would become a Democrat.

    When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And Lukoduh and Profit are living proof.

    By Glenn

    January 13, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

    Thanks, Lukoduh. A refreshing ablution, and necessary.

    That said, however, it should be stated that the unspoken part of the voiced objections shouts out for bipartisan dialogue.

    Drive-by-Media @ 9:18

    It is greatly to be wished, not only by the Editors but by reasonable persons of all shades of opinion, that we — yes, even we here — will see our collective duty to set aside consuming selfish interest and take up that call to summon the counsels of moderation and deliberation in this, as indeed in all such matters of vital public interest in such trying times as these in which we now find ourselves.

    ~~~Au Fils de Fleuve~~~

    By The Prophet

    January 13, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

    Dallas and New York. Who woulda thunk a defensive struggle?

    By Luckoduh

    January 13, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

    {{{{By Ga Liberal January 13, 2008 5:46 PM When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests.}}}}

    I couldn’t have said it better myself.

    I put the “interests” of my great country before “self.”

    By Glenn

    January 13, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

    Well yeah, I am actually comparing the two, but I think I make it clear with an abundance of qualifiers that I’m not equating the two, only clarifying by exaggerated comparison the gravity of the point you made, and adding to yours the point that this kind of thuggish trend does lead somewhere. In my mind, honestly, it leads to the doorstep in Guatemala City in which a friend of mine, a young man who’d inherited the mantle of the nation’s biggest newspaper publishing house from his assassinated father. On that doorstep, one Sunday morning as he was picking up his own newspaper in his slippers and pajamas, he was machine gunned for a terrible mistake he’d made: criticizing the Administration.

    Yes, you could so argue that Bush and Cheney are murderers, but you’d do so only if you’d never seen the real thing. When I was a punk I tried to make a citizen’s arrest of Cap Weinberger right on his home turf, Nob Hill. He insisted that the cops let me go, seeing that I was a callow fool who’d soon know better. That man saved far more lives than he ever took, and broke more shackles than you perhaps could imagine.

    By mmm

    January 14, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

    Boy, you can’t keep to the topic here.

    This blog isn’t worth posting because of the uncivil, off topic nature of the discourse.

    By Glenn

    January 14, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

    By all means, fragile young thing; for “It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.” If the climate’s too hardy for you, see if you can find a nice, civil country with linear discourse overseen during discussion hours by state-appointed editors who keep things lace curtain, comprehensible to such as you, and above all, equal to the latest and highest standards of tasteful discourse. Try Lichtenstein, or Brunei.

    Bristol sailing. Don’t forget to pack your spats key and brushes!

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