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By Mid-South Philosopher

January 9, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim,

With respect to the New Hampshire results, the contest for the McCain/Romney element of the party hangs on Michigan. If Mitt “Gores Out” (that is to say, if he loses his “home” state) it is over for him and the competition will be between McCain and Huckabee as they move south.

With respect to the Clinton/Obama contest, much hangs on South Carolina. If Hillary wins, then she will demonstrate mastery of the black vote sector. If Obama wins, the game isn’t over, but it will likely turn dirty.

Just a word of warning to all candidates…*Beware the Strait of Hormuz!”

By ron

January 9, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

Good morning Jim,Hilary did fine.You are correct.McCain is over,Edwards is finished.We have to wait now on Guiliani.I don’t see Romney or Huckabee there at the finish,but time will tell.Who’s Ron Paul?

By GaVoter

January 9, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

I’m writing in a candidate if it comes down to Clinton - Huckabee - McKinney.

By Southern Democrat

January 9, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

I am continually surprised by the lovefest for Romney by so many intelligent conservatives. To me, it reveals a sense of desperation… one very similar to the way that members of the left reluctantly supported John Kerry. Mitt Romney is a terrible, terrible candidate whose flip-flopping, religious views, and profligate personal and government spending would be a major turn-off to libertarian-conservatives, moderates, and independents.

I am truly hoping that John McCain can secure the Republican nomination. To me, it would show a maturation of the party’s machine after the hatchet job he received in 2000. Senator McCain has always been a man of courage and integrity and would certainly get my vote over Senator Clinton should that be the match-up in the general election.

By MELO

January 9, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Among the half of Republican voters who call themselves conservative, Romney won. He also won among the �shares my values� Republicans. That bodes well for Romney Nope dunder head,bodes well for Huckabee Ur bias and attempt to coronate THE MORMON is disgusting!!

By Curious Observer

January 9, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

I chuckle when I view the sorry collection of Republican candidates. Talk about “hoist on their own petard!” The conservatives who have forced us into mountains of debt, recession, war, unemployment, and a resurgence of religious bigotry and racial intolerance are now reduced to hoping that their former arch-enemy, McCain, wins the nomination. They know that Huckabee, Romney, and Giuliani would be mere road-kill in the general election, as would Lazy Fred.

The coming primaries are going to be fun!

By Camus

January 9, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

Southern Dem, I’m with you on that. The infatuation with Romney is baffling. Any Repub who talks about Hillary’s phoniness/pandering and then touts Romney is to be dismissed as deeply unserious.

(And I have to say about Hillary’s speech last night: “I have listened to you all for the past week and I have now found my own voice.” What a pantsload that is. I’m not sure which part offends me more…the abject pandering, the complete lack of coherent logic, or the clunkiness of language. Oy.)

As a straight-up progressive who will be happy to vote for any of the top three Dem candidates, the only Republican nominee wannabe that concerns me is McCain. The rest are frankly unelectable.

And while I have zero patience with the Straight Talk express fiction, the fact is that McCain has a sterling resume that stands him well above lightweights like Romney or Huckabee or Giuliani. Beyond that, the media loves the guy, and he would be guaranteed of fawning coverage in the general, and his story is indeed compelling.

My own opinion…too old, too conservative, and he showed a weak cravenness in sucking up to Bush after the dirty dealing he received in the 2000 election. But the only Repub who stands a chance of winning this year.

By Aquagirl

January 9, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

The big loser is Edwards. His attempt to latch onto the Obama-mania was a total miss.

At least the NH voters didn’t decide who would be the major party candidates by copying Iowa. It would be bizarre to essentially have two states pick the next president. No matter who you’re backing, it’s always a good thing to have a choice. Somebody needs to get the primary process under control.

By MELO

January 9, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Here is some free advice for u right wingers:the only way u have a chance of beating dems is to have Mccain in there.He can even get Dem crossover votes.Not Romney,the liberal flip floper,fake azz liberal MORMON with cult values.The way we avoid the lepish Jehovah witness people is the same way we loathe the slick-willy mormons and he will be toast.Talking of supporting a trash bag, thats Romney. U cannot change who u are becaue you are in a presidential race.Cant u all stupid people see that, even on his face.Not sincere at all.

By Politics Aside

January 9, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

That old woman who threw Hillary that big fat softball over the center of the plate had to be a Hillary Plant. Why? Because that old, old woman used the phrase, “it’s personal”, which Edwards had wielded so succesfully during the debate last weekend.

So Hillary was waiting on it, with a very reflective and emotional feminine voice. Hillary also got to use the phrase, “it’s personal” without looking like she stole it from Edwards because that (till now) unspotted yet strangely liver-spotted plant had given it to her.

Edwards was asked to comment on the moment, and he fell into the same trap that he baited Hillary with during the debate which caused Hillary to fan: He poo-poo’d the moment and was too dismissive and sympathy points started piling up. And look how much stage time Hillary got as media outlet after media source kept replaying the bit, which sold alot of soap.

If we are that stupid, and so easily manipulated by schmaltz, sentimentality and who’s the underdog and sheer repetition, then we deserve what we got with Bush and whatever we get with the motley assortment of corrupt sellouts now in contention.

Gee, Ron Paul, how are you holding up, what with the chicken little act going over like a, uh, chicken little act, I mean, how do you not take the voter’s apathy personal, is it personal? PLANT!

I SPOTTED A PLANT!

By chuck

January 9, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

I don’t know if there is a candidate in the race that I can vote for. I haven’t met a democrat I could vote for in over 20 years. There is certainly not one in this current crop of candidates. On the Republican side this is how I see the candidates at this point:

McCain: Absolutely wrong on illegal immigration. Proposed an amnesty bill that I couldn’t possibly live with. Stifled free speech with McCain-Feingold. I love him and respect him. I admire his strength of character and thank him for the sacrifice he made for this country…but I can’t vote for him.

Romney: Republican version of John Kerry. Flip-flopper on the issues most dear to me like abortion and illegal immigration. I can’t trust his positions on these issues. I believe he will say or do anything to be elected. I can’t vote for him.

Huckabee: Hillbilly from Arkansas. College tuition for illegal aliens, yet Arkansas CITIZENS couldn’t get the same deal? I don’t trust his explanation of that. Another thing that worries me? He’s a governor from Arkansas…been there done that, use the t-shirt to wash my car. Also, yesterday he said “IRREGARDLESS”…TWICE. Come on MIKE. It is NOT A WORD. I was leaning toward holding my nose and voting for him, but now I’m not sure anymore.

Thompson: I’ll probably vote for him now. He is really the only true conservative in the race, but I think he has no hope of getting elected. I think he waited too long to get in and then got his feelings hurt when he wasn’t automatically coronated as the nominee. Now that he has to work for it, he doesn’t seem to want it as much.

Giuliani: New York Liberal. There’s already one of those running on the other side. Can’t stomach his pro-abortion stance. I absolutely don’t trust his “I’ll appoint strict constructionists” pledge because almost all of the judges he appointed in NYC were DEMOCRATS.

The others don’t have ANY chance of winning so I won’t bore you with my assessments of them. Where’s John Kasich when you need him?

By Shar

January 9, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

I’m with Southern Democrat, Curious Observer and Camus on John McCain, which is perhaps unsurprising as the Senator appeals to moderates and independents while offending the far right redoubts of his party. I wish I could share Camus’ enthusiasm for Senators Clinton, Obama and Edwards, but despite my disgust with Republican governance over the last eight years I’d vote for McCain over any of them. The only way any of them could win is if the Republicans were to nominate someone as clearly incapable as Governor Huckabee. In my opinion, the Democrat with the most to offer is Governor Richardson, but his gravitas has been eclipsed by the slick wattage of the other three. If the New Hampshire trend continues, we’ll have another Republican Administration sworn in next January.

By Glenn

January 9, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

What strikes me about New Hampshire is that almost everyone now needs South Carolina.

Obama, to show, going into the urban states, that he can win even as a yankee in a Southern state in which the majority of Democrats are black;
Hillary, to put down Obama and the Southern populist Edwards once and for all;
McCain, to show that he has momentum and has triumphed over his anti-clerical remarks of yore;
Romney, simply to stay in the race by proving that he’s a credible yankee conservative in a Southern state loaded with Republicans who like their candidates conservative;
Huckabee, who’ll be either the dead or the undead if he doesn’t either win or else close to within 3 points;
Thompson and Paul, both of whom should bow out (Fred will, Dr. Paul won’t) after Carolina when they fail to make strong showings, and so both of whom need South Carolina vitally.

There’s one candidate who doesn’t need South Carolina. Interesting, isn’t it?

Camus,

You’ll forever be on my list of honored traitors. Moreover, I agree with almost everything you said about Rudy, and certainly understand and respect all that you said of him. So should his voice crack down in Florida, and his eyes tear up and his gestures suddenly mimic those of his spouse as though he were Dustin Hoffman or Robin Williams, then by all means don’t vote for such a fool.

As you would say, don’t fall for it.

[A Vote for Mike is a Vote for Jimmy]

By Dusty

January 9, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

My goodness,

Two little days of choice and everybody goes haywire. I don’t have a crystal ball. I’ll just wait for the first primary in Georgia. Then—let it rip and I will start acting like a soothsayer of the finest future.

In the meantime, it is kinda nice to keep the libs busy. They hardly have time to divy up some new comspiracies about Bush. RedNeck will fantasize about his trailer park at Chateau Elan. Captain will burden us with verbosity. PoFo will prolificate. Gonna be fun. Now, tell me again. Who’s on first?

By Camus

January 9, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Just to clarify my earlier post…

I believe McCain would be the most effective GOP nominee. But I do not share any enthusiasm for him as a candidate. I’m not sure why the Repubs have not embraced this guy from the start. Sure, he offends the xenophobes with his immigration stance, which I find refreshingly clear in its recognition of reality (hence, I reckon, the conservative reaction against him). But I find him deeply conservative overall…a strict anti-choice guy and horribly, horribly wrong on Iraq.

Add to that his disgusting cave to the Bushies on torture (after publicly declaring his opposition, and for good reason) and I do not see the so-called Straight Talk Maverick that the media adores. I see a very conventional post-Reagan Republican, and not a guy that offers the least bit of hope of positive change.

A vote for McCain would be a vote for more of the same, but the coverage he gets obscures that fact. And that is what will make him a dangerous foe for whichever Dem gets the nod. Given the behavior of the media in the recent elections, one can expect a McCain campaign to get glowing coverage for his “regular guy” persona, with obfuscation of where he really stands on hot button issues. The result is an underinformed electorate that gets to project their own fantasy on this so-called man of the people. Yep, the Dems should worry about this guy.

By True Republican

January 9, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

The fact is Jim, that mainstream Republicans are fed up, sick and tired of, whatever you want to call it, of you so called “conservative” Republicans. Conservative has become code for a bunch of out of touch wingwacks. Guess what moron? The McCain victory was an indictment of everything that you lunatics on the right stand for. This country will not endorse another victory by Bush style Republicans. McCain will get the nomination. Why? Because true Republicans can’t stomach you haters and lunatics on the right. Find another place to puke up your bigoted, nutty agenda. Goodbye and good riddance to right wing rubbish.

By Rusty

January 9, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

I’m curious to know where Obama is on the slave reparation issue.All of you Obama supporters need to be looking at his activities/playmates BEFORE he got into the U.S Senate.His support of an Alderwoman named Tillman in Chicago is a great place to start.

By Diogenes

January 9, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim,

Your penetrating analysis of yesterday’s proceedings in New Hampshire can have but one logical conclusion: we are finally going to be able to rid this country of the Republican hegemony which has rendered us impotent as a nation the past seven years.

By Con Cerned

January 9, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

Read This: New Hampshire Democratic Primary Check out this website. It breaks down the number of votes to Machine counted vs hand counted. Notice how Clinton’s votes are inflated with Machine votes and Obama’s are deflated. This looks artificial and I think it is fraud. If they where not artificially inflated then the poll results would match the outcome from last nights primary. This needs to be exposed. I am just concerned that if this is happening in the primaries imagine what will happen in the general election.

By Glenn

January 9, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

NEWS FLASH: This just in. It’s a fact that McCain’s resume is sterling. In further developments, it now appears to be a fact that Romney and Giuliani are lightweights with resumes of common tin.

By Jeff

January 9, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Good to see that your article here has baited some religious bigoted comments. Sort of like when you leave some rotting food out on the back deck, wait ‘till it gets dark and flick the lights on to see the possoms out there licking up the crap. Same goes for all these so-called ‘good Christians’ out there who condemn ‘mormons to hell’ with all their self-righteousness. I just don’t understand the level of animosity of a very small minority of the Christian right who feels so incredibly threatened by mormonism that they resort to religous bigotry to try and persuade and win an argument. But, if your aim is to keep butts in the pews so they can keep the lights on at your church - go right ahead. It’s a disghusting tactic and in time will only further marginalize the ‘Christian’ vote in this country.

Could you imagine if a Jew was running and there was this level of overt Jew hatred out there? Oh well, I guess it is just fashionable to bash the mormons.

I personally welcome this contest and see 4 viable candidates still in the race (Huck, Mitt, John, Rudy). Fred’s gone, unfortunately as he is a stalwart conservative. McCain will have a hard time in ALL of the closed primaries, and Huckabee will have a hard time outside of the South. I see a nice opening for Rudy if he wins Florida. I also see Mitt with a decent shot if he does well in Michigan.

None of these guys will drop out before Super Tuesday (except Fred), so the odds of a brokered ticket are becomming more and more likely.

Just my 2 cents FWIW

By Dusty

January 9, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Oh that Camus. A thousand words when a few would suffice.

Here’s the Camus condensation:

McCain is a nice guy.!!! But…he’s a Republican. Bush is a Repub. That does it. Out…black spot of conservatves…cries Lady McCamus. I want “small change” with small minded Dems. Change!! Change!! My kingdom for a CHANGE!!!

By catlady

January 9, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

If Mitt �Gores Out� (that is to say, if he loses his �home� state

Mid-South, it is called “getting Gored”!

By GaVoter

January 9, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

Choice! As though we have the choice! The choices we will have will be given to us — not chosen by us. Ron Paul still receives an honorable mention because he still has some money. We don’t elect politicians — money elects politicians. Politicians should be cursed, I mean taxed, taxed excessively for subjecting us to this taxing farce and the money behind them (or at least 50% of it) should be put into the government coffers to fund something of value — a cup of coffee, bottle of wine, a new car, new shoes, research into alternative energy, safe and abundant food from America — not China…….

What choice will I have on election day? I will exercise my choice by picking Obama?, Clinton?, McCain?, Romney?…….Lather, Rinse, and Repeat.

By Glenn

January 9, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

GaVoter,

If money elected politicians, Mitt Romney would have the nomination sewn up by now, with Ron Paul as his running mate. Meanwhile, Ross Perot would have to be preparing to step down as President for Life, taking Vice President Forbes with him.

By B.P.O.E.

January 9, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Con Cerned, you bring up some excellent concerns but that is not the reason for the Hillary victory last night.

I was the only one in the country that accurately predicted the outcome yesterday. A prediction made on this very blog.

The polling was wrong for a reason. They didn’t take into account the “Teletubbie Effect.”

As I have explained previously, when Hillary was first lady and with the help of the very liberal government funded PBS, the Green Teletubbie sent out secret brainwashing messages to our toddlers that would make them vote for Hillary when they were voting age. The gays were also able to infiltrate that show with a Purple Teletubbie.

Those toddlers are now 18, 19, and 20 years old. They are voting for Hillary in record numbers. So much so that they are causing havoc with the polls.

Evil Hillary must be stopped.

By dustbuster

January 9, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Dusty, go sleep it off.

By Glenn

January 9, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

Jeff,

Unless you’re referring to the rather adept parody by MELO, I don’t see any “religious bigoted comments” here, only the usual (and deserved) anti-religious ones.

As to your grotesque of Christian zealots presuming to consign Mormons to Hell, etc., some people take their Christian profession of faith seriously enough to note that Mormons are not Christians, but something else. What is hateful about that, please?

You mention Jews and Judaism as analogs. By your same analogy, would it be hateful for a Jew to object to a professed Christian candidate who ran as a Jew?

Shar,

I’m not sure whether I’m relieved or disappointed that you weren’t here yesterday when Dennis and I were trading the most injurious baseball cards on public schooling. Disappointed, I think.

By Camus

January 9, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Shorter Dusty: “Oh, fiddle-dee-dee.”

Sorry you find it so difficult to undertand (or post) more than a few short, random grunts.

By Profit

January 9, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Was John ever indited for his role in the Savings and Loan looting, you know, the Keating Five affair? Why do the Washington thieves get to walk away from their crimes? McClown is a baby burner, a thief imho, and a Washington insider who has sold out America in favor of israel, just as his pal, Traitor Joe has directed him. I can not think of two worse men to be in positions of power in this nations capital. IMHO, they should both be serving long prison terms at GITMO

By Dennis

January 9, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

Glenn, loved your closing points of view from yesterday.

In very early 1970s, some of us were sitting around in Atlanta waiting for a GAE meeting to begin where I was going to call for a state wide strike (and did, and almost got it).

As we waited, we discussed the problems we were having with curriculum, motivating kids, fighting for funding�…. Little has changed in all that time.

But I, like you, have some good memories and successes along with the down time.

Maybe if I had it to do again, I�d go into �public service�, or, write a newspaper column. :)

You don�t have to be blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Profit

January 9, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

At age 70 plus, I don’t think you can call Cancer Face McClown a kid.

By Redneck Convert

January 9, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Well, I was just disgusted when I seen that the Rev. Huckabee only got 11%. It just goes to show these NH people are heathens that need to be converted. Even worse than Vermont. I just wish the Rev. Falwell was around to show them the Evil of their ways.

Anyhow, I don’t see what the libruls are so upset about. So what if a lot of jobs have been shipped overseas? There’s plenty of jobs at McDonald’s and Wendy’s. And this business of wanting guvmint health care. Well, if God had of wanted you to get doctoring for free, you would of been borned with a little insurance policy in your hands.

Now people are talking about a Recession. Well, I always know when a recession is coming. People stop buying beer. And I’m telling you them Baptists are soaking the stuff up like a sponge. My back is sore from hauling it into places. There ain’t no Recession. People will do anything to make My President look bad.

Anyway, just wait till these canadates get to GA. We’ll show them how to vote. And any time now old Sonny will lay on a prayer service for a Republican win. If it works for the water it will work for the election. Just look outside at the cloudy skys. Pretty soon we will have rain till we’re up to our necks in water.

Me, I’m praying the Rev. Huckabee gives up on raising taxes and pardoning prisoners. And asking for free gifts. Other than that he’s perfect.

[Huckabee-Robertson ‘08]

By Politics Aside

January 9, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Even I forgot about those horrid teletubbie monsters who are diebolding this primary season. The problem, near-POTUS’s , is not in our polls, but in our Po’s.

By Glenn

January 9, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

chuck, for what it’s worth, your assessments make sense to me. They’re not mine, but they make sense.

By Heywood Jablome

January 9, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Mormonism is Scientology without the celebrities. (But Heywood, that’s not fair!! What about the Osmond Family??)

Joseph Smith was the L Ron Hubbard of the 19th Century. He had a magic rock and a magic hat that he used to translate an engraved plate of gold that was given to him by an angel. He was the only one who could conduct the translation. Oh yeah, and he was the only one who ever saw the plate of gold. And I have a big invisible rabbit who is my friend and he tells me secrets that allow me to bang supermodels every night. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

And people think that New Age beliefs are crackpot. Well, they are, but that’s another easy fish in the barrel to skewer.

Tom Cruise for President.

Cult following morons…

—Heywood Jablome

By Glenn

January 9, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

B.P.O.E. & Pee Aside,

Your seeing the teletubbic paws behind the faux polls gives me pause.

By JK

January 9, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Another day squandering God’s gifts, huh Mr. Wooten? Callin’ the horse race is the laziest form of “journalism” and you know it.

What percentage of Americans have yet to vote in these primaries? The potential to make a difference through real reporting is there for you and your fellow hacks, but then, why bother with an honest day’s work when repetition peppered with your own opinion will do? Too bad we can’t see your eye-rolling like the hacks on TV. Get a job, already.

By GaVoter

January 9, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

Glenn,

Why should I believe that Perot and his supporters threw the most money at the election?

The current election has a little ways to go unless you have some insider info the rest of us are not “privy to”.

Granted I will admit that things can go wrong. Sometimes the voting machines work properly, or not. Sometimes the dead don’t come back to life, or do. Even a hanging chad can fall off, or not.

I wonder what the elections would be like if the only monies available were those collected on the tax returns.

By chuck

January 9, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

I understand Glenn. I was wondering what you meant by this statement that you made:

I don�t see any �religious bigoted comments� here, only the usual (and deserved) anti-religious ones.

By JD

January 9, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

Obama is truly not ready to run this country. It’s going to take more than eloquent speeches to stand up against the GOP machine. He must have said the word change 100 times last night after conceding to Hillary. My question is simple, what does he mean by change? what is he going to change, and how does he plan about doing it. Just because you give a few speeches on change doesn’t make you eligble for to president. I’m a black man, and I’m throwing my support behind the most experienced and electable candidate. Not the most exciting and charismatic. GO HILLARY! HILLARY 08!!!

By Dennis

January 9, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

By chuck January 9, 2008 10:02 AM “I don�t know if there is a candidate in the race that I can vote for.”

And the powers that control the election process DO NOT DARE to have a spot on the ballot that states, “None of the above.”

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By They Make Hay into Wood

January 9, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

Jos. Smith’s dad Joseph was a jailbird confidence man and swindler forever on the lam. The court proceedings reside inconveniently in the historical records of the State of New York.

By Politics Aside

January 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

Here’s why tht LADY was a Plant.

She gets too ornery for questions from flakes. She just eats pizza at five hundred a plate. She doesn’t bother with her mate’s playmates.

That’s why the lady was a plant.

By Politics Aside

January 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

Here’s why that LADY was a Plant.

She gets too ornery for questions from flakes. She just eats pizza at five hundred a plate. She doesn’t bother with her mate’s playmates.

That’s why the lady was a plant.

By Dusty

January 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

Oh Camus aka Scarlet,11:04

Not a lack of understanding, sweet thing. It is boredom from the boring. You excel!!

By Hillary Clinton

January 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

POLLS? I don’t care ‘bout no stinking polls!!!

By Politics Aside

January 9, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

She wont trust crap games with Edwards or Paul. She wont spend money where she’d only fall. She wont dish the dirt just on one, but on all.

That’s why that Lady was a plant.

By I Don' Got To Show You No Steenking Polls

January 9, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

She goes in for ice games, with bagmen and cons. Won’t go to Harlem, with Lincolns or Fords. Won’t dish the dirt. For that she’s got Dodds. That’s why the lady was a plant.

By Camus

January 9, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Dusty, aka Blanche —

Not so bored that you don’t read every post, lonelyhearts. Now have another drink. And be sure to keep the lights low.

By Politics Aside

January 9, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Love the crazed look on W’s face in the Luckovich ‘toon. He really does look like a Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Heckle.

If Hillary can save this country, then she’ll go down as our greatest president who was also a first lady who was grandfathered in office as a favorite son whose daughter chelsea was both an (under)dog and a dark horse(face).

Doesn’t that describe the beast of Revelations? I’ve fingered the antichrist!…….ew.

By Profit

January 9, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

YO They Make Hay into Wood : Some helpful soul should get a copy of jailhouse Smith’s new york record and post it on the internet for all to see. hint hint

By Heywood Jablome

January 9, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

I’ve fingered Heidi Klum. And Eva Longoria.

I tried to finger Dusty, but it felt like I was scraping my knuckle with a cheese grater.

—Heywood Jablome

By Glenn

January 9, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

chuck @ 11:26,

I was referring to the bashing of sanctimonious ultraconservative Christians given to damning this or that public figure or group. This blog’s a haven for mockery of such Pharisaic nonsense. It’s one of the reasons why I like this place.

Incidentally, while I take your summaries of the candidates to heart, I positively agree with Jeff’s analyses, but not with his particular way of bashing the bashers today. That’s all.

Dennis, that was fun. Helped get some of the vinegar out of the bloodstream. Important, that, as I’ve been blood-poisoned of late with mounting anger at the destructive silliness that passes for serious commitment to educational restructuring. Wow, were you ever in the thick of it. Historically so, in fact. Don’t know why you say that had you a do-over you’d consider public service, Dennis. You’ve given your best, in 33 years and in the years preceding that. Few have been of such service to this country. What gives?

Huckabee’s camp is spreading a rumor that he’s racking up endorsements from the teachers’ unions. Must be state-level AFT, ‘cause NEA is firmly in control of its locals and firmly in bed with Hillary. Even AFT national and the affiliates in NY and CA do make wildcat endorsements early, to compensate for a lack of funds to donate, but it would be really odd for them to jump ship on the DNC. Again, what gives? Must be all spin.

By Jeff

January 9, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

Glenn- Thank you for making my point for me.

What makes you hold a monopoly on the term ‘Christian’ and feel so inclined to deride any other faith that places their faith in Christ? Does this somehow tarnish ‘your Christ’ and make you feel less ‘Christian’? Or do you feel that the way you can stand up for God is to distort and twist the beliefs of others?

It just doesn’t strike me as a very ‘Christian’ way to live your life, but then again, what do I know? Apparently you hold sole claim to understand and cast judgement on who are and who are not Christians. Good luck with that.

By Glenn

January 9, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

GaVoter,

I’m hip to your jive, man, and dig that in an election, money talks. But it don’t do the sashay, dig? It don’t walk.

If it did, Perot would have been President, again and again, until he bought a Constitutional amendment, and then again and again again.

So while I agree that your cynicism is warranted, I feel that its placement overshoots. If money were as important as you flatly state it is, then Dr. Paul not only would get respect, he’d get the nomination unless Romney were to buy it first.

By They Make Hay into Wood

January 9, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Yes, somebody should don her magic spectacles and do that. Hint, hint.

By Profit

January 9, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

I hinted first…

By chuck

January 9, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

So, Glenn are you a Christian who likes bashing Christians or a non-Christian who likes bashing Christians. The former (Christians who like bashing other Christians) are usually liberals who like to make the Bible fit their OWN WAY OF VIEWING life. That way they can enjoy their own particular sins and condemn BIBLE-BELIEVING CHRISTIANS as being “sanctimonious”. The latter, well I can understand why they bash Christians.

By Glenn

January 9, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Jeff @ 12:14,

I’m afraid you’re ill-informed. They taught me in Religious Studies 10: Comparative Religion for Scrubs Players that Christians worship Jesus Christ as the one true God. Mormons do not do so. In his Massachusetts address concerning his creed, Mr. Romney did not mention the divinity of Christ, but instead conspicuously skirted the issue, rather as a devout Muslim would do. (I invite you to consult the transcript.) I reckon that to any Christian his doctrinal remarks would come off as a skillful evasion of their main point.

Where, then, is my judgmentalism, my sanctimony, my Christian sacrilege?

By Jackie

January 9, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

@Dusty,

Here is a link to Fox News EXPLAINING what happened in the Straits of Hormuz. Please take your time and read it CAREFULLY so that you can understand what is going on. Secondly, it has a map showing the area in question, which should give you some understanding about the world’s busiest waterway. I am sure you realize that 60% of the world’s oil flow through those waters including super-tankers. Good reading.

By Glenn

January 9, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

Incidentally, Jeff, I’m perfectly happy for Romney to run either as a private citizen or as a private citizen who is a Mormon. In fact, if he gets the nomination I will work very hard indeed to help ensure his election.

By Dennis

January 9, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

By Glenn January 9, 2008 12:10 PM “Dennis…Don�t know why you say that had you a do-over you�d consider public service….”

I kinda meant that in jest, Glenn. As some of the most vocal critics of public education are “public servants” and “journalist”.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

Dennis. You�ve given your best, in 33 years and in the years preceding that. Few have been of such service to this country. What gives?

By Politics Aside

January 9, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

With supporters like Glenn, who needs a jock strap?

By Jack

January 9, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

So he’s a Mormon, BFD. JFK was Catholic and everyone made a fuss about that. We want someone to lead this country that has good morals regardless of their religious believes.

By Heywood Jablome

January 9, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

Chuck reveals himself as one of the Christians who is confident in his own beliefs, and brooks no dissent from those pu$sified liberals who go in for interpretation and all that. There is one true faith, and Mullah Chuck is prepared to defend it.

Mullah Chuck believes God Said It, Chuck Read It, and That Settles It. He is a REAL Christian, not one of those Pawns of Satan like the other not-quite Christians, and Chuck is comfortable with his Certainty.

Being Chuck means never having to question or think for yourself. Being Chuck means always being on the lookout for secular humanists like me who believe his kind are ignorant fools slightly above the level of a dirt-digging savage. But there are very few like me, so Chuck looks for enemies closer to home, like the dirty liberal sodomite-forgiver in the next pew who has a gay son that she loves; or the filthy commie two rows back who prays for relief from his crushing health care debts, perhaps holding some glimmer of hope for allowing the lesser among us to have access to the greatest medical system in the whole gosh dinged world; or the heathen who questions whether the price of her amputee son’s debilitating head injury was worth the glorious freedom that God asked President Bush to deliver to Iraq.

Being Chuck means always having convenient enemies close at hand. Because having abdicated his right to think freely, he has nothing left but his atavistic love of adrenaline fueled paranoia.

yo Chuck

—Heywood Jablome

By UWSDWF

January 9, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

When confronted with the claims of some of his more controversial supporters President Reagan used to say, “They endorsed me; I didn�t endorse them.”

In the case of Barry Obama and Dorothy Tillman, he has endorsed her and her unseemly reparations crusade for slavery.

Only Obama doesn’t want his national audience to know it. I seriously doubt that many of the tens of thousands of people who have succumbed to Obama’s pleas for “hope” realize he “hopes” to force them to pay tax dollars to provide some form of compensation to people who weren’t alive from people who weren’t alive, all for the evils of slavery. They have no idea who Dorothy Tillman is, or what she stands for, or the damage she continues to do to taxpayers in Chicago. All in the name of slavery.

And yet ignorant suckers keep on giving, not knowing who Obama is and what he wants to accomplish if he should end up in the Oval office.

Psst. Ready to pay reparations for slavery? Obama’s your man.

He just doesn�t want you to know. Yet.

He’s too busy working to reelect Dorothy Tillman in two weeks.

Media Sources

“The Chicago Tribune”

“The Hill”

“The Chicago Sun-Times”

By Cdog

January 9, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

I hope Hillary wins the Dem nomination simply because she will turn out a larger “anti” vote than Obama would.

I like Mike Huckabee because he has the correct position on the issues that are important to me: The Fair Tax, the 2nd Amendment, and abortion. Granted, he has been wrong on immigration in the past, but I think he is starting to see the light.

McCain - not a conservative; nominally pro-life but that is about it; his claim to fame is that he was a POW and that he opposes stuff

Romney - says all the right things and takes all the right positions but hard to believe that he is real; how does a “conservative” get to be governor of Massachussetts, the state that consistently elects John Kerry and Ted Kennedy? The answer is, he doesn’t because Romney has not shown himself to be a conservative in the past.

Giuliani - finest hour was when he returned the 10 million dollars to the Saudi prince who blamed the US for 9/11; takes the wrong position on most issues; unfortunately, he is a RINO; claims he has more in agreement with conservatives than in disagreement, but he is only fooling himself.

By Fluttering Heart

January 9, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Heywood, I think I love you.

By jbmlaw

January 9, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Dear PoFo, �the lady was a plant� was a pretty good routine, my compliments, but nobody under 55+ will get it.

By Glenn

January 9, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

Jack, I think that to keep the analogy we’d have to posit a Catholic candidate such as JFK running as something like a Protestant rather than as a Roman Catholic. That would be analogous to the Mormon Romney running as a Christian rather than as a Mormon, which is a fine enough thing to be without dressing it as something else.

chuck @ 12:25

No, I do not say that I am a Christian. I do pray that I am. And I do not enjoy bashing my brothers and sisters who profess Jesus and Him crucified; rather I sadly bash those “jackals” and “pit vipers” who bill themselves as children of God when they are in fact besmirching the holy name of the House of David with their condemnation, their judgmentalism, their sanctimony. You sound as though you would be aware that Rabbi Yeshua of Nazareth reserved His ripest street language for such people, who today are rife.

And PoFo’s right: with me, you don’t need a jockstrap.

By Redneck Convert

January 9, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Well, I see they are blaming the Clinton NH win on her place on the ballot. It says right there on CNN that being listed 1st or 2nd, which she was, on the ballot is good for 3 free points, which is what she won by. They done a study of this. Anyway, they say this Osama guy lost because he was listed next to last. But I say he lost because he was one of Those People and the voters come to their senses oncet they got in the voting booth.

Anyway, when I vote I don’t have time to deal with the place on a ballot. Its hard enough to try and say the names out loud and figure out if this is the one I mean to vote for.

This blog sure got strange after I left it this a.m. Now I don’t understand half of what folks are trying to say.

Anyhow, like I always say, you don’t have to be a godly redneck to understand it, just a godless heathen to deny it.

By Prophetess Kelley P

January 9, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Folks, you are truly witnessing greatness here. chuck, by reading your posts today I have truly looked into and witnessed your beautiful soul.

I think it would be a big help if you could please list all of your sins on this blog so the liberal Demon Christians can understand how truly glorious the sin of a conservative Republican is vs that of an evil abortion loving and perhaps even gay liberal Democrat. Let Us judge you my friend, as an open example of His glory!.

chuck, let them mock our spirituous leader, Prophident Bush! We KNOW.

Let us pray for the only true candidate that can keep us in Our glory as a nation. Mr Huckabee, a hungry nation awaits you under God.

This is what I know about those on the blog today. 4 of you are going to heaven. 11 of you are going to hell.

Judgementous

By Craig

January 9, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

Heywood and Glenn - brilliant, and said with humility - something that so many on the “Christian right” have none of…

By Lucien BONNET

January 9, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

LETTER TO PRESIDENT CLINTO

N

Montreal, March 22, 1995

President William Jefferson Clinton President of the United States of America The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue N.W. Washington, DC 20500 U.S.A.

Mister President:

Please allow me to take the opportunity of your visit to Haiti, as President of the United States of America, on March 31, 1995, to pay due tribute in all sincerity to you and your distinguished wife, Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

You honor Haiti and the Haitian people with your presence and support.

Thanks to you and your allies in the United Nations and the Organization of American States, the return-to-democracy process has been successfully carried out. Now that the legitimate President, Jean Bertrand Aristide, has been reinstated in his official status, it is with legitimate pride, I am sure that he welcomes you to his country. For you, as well as for us, the “Uphold Democracy” operation is truly a beautiful historical moment.

Mr. President, I come from Haiti, that underdeveloped country.

With underdeveloped tools � a camera and a few films � I have tried, in order to serve my country�s cause, to demystify the word “light” and denounce Newton�s Theory of Colors.

With that same desire to serve constitutional legitimacy in my country, I have written the enclosed book entitled “Haiti, Let There Be Light!” I hope that you and Mrs. Clinton will accept this privately produced copy, especially intended for you, while you are getting ready for your trip to Haiti.

May I make a confession to you, Mr. President? I followed, closely and with intense interest, your electoral campaign, election, and swearing-in ceremony as 42nd President of the United States. What a great nation you represent! Please believe me: your courageous commitment to facilitate the restoration of democracy in my country has escaped no one. On the very day of your swearing-in ceremony, I wished to send you my book, Ha�ti, Que La Lumi�re Soit!, which questions Newton�s Theory of Colors. I did not do so, because I felt an English-language version would be more appropriate.

Since I could not send you a copy of the yet-to-be-published English version of my book, I contented myself with dreaming � dreaming that on one of your first evenings in the White House, you were seated in the Oval Room with Mrs. Clinton and your daughter Chelsea. You were reading “Ha�ti, Que La Lumi�re Soit!” I imagined you carefully examining certain passages of that work in its English version, which is now in preparation � typed by a sightless, multilingual Haitian. Those paragraphs deal with the so-called missing matter, darkness in space, “black holes” � in a word: the invisible mass of the Cosmos. You notice Dr. Carl Sagan�s research on Exobiology and the DNA found in the dark matter in the universe, and you suddenly remember a Time article from April 10, 1978 entitled “Black Holes and Martian Valleys”, which contained the following passage:

“A while later, astronomer Carl Sagan (The Dragons of Eden) found himself lugging his slide box into the Vice President�s big new house and, after coffee, taking the Mondale and Carter families on a journey through the heavens.”

Jimmy Carter is the closest thing to a scientist we have had in the White House since Thomas Jefferson.

Nixon could not run a tape recorder.

Johnson could not fully figure out his alarm wrist watch.

Not Jimmy. He was fascinated by the discussion of “Black Holes” and the speculation that they might provide answers to what holds the Universe together.”

“Well,” you exclaimed, “O.K. for former President Carter. It is normal for the President of a star-spangled republic to choose between ‘Star Peace’ and ‘Star War’. As to the former President�s inclination toward Einstein�s physics and/or Planck�s Quantum Theory, there is a great temptation to apply certain laws of the Cosmos to politics and diplomacy. Consider the ‘Tunnel Effect’, the way that energy escapes from black holes.”

“Carter goes back to the sources and draws inspiration from them. That makes me think about Aristide � both of them are well at ease in both the Western world and the Black world: the visible and the invisible. However, there is one difference: the Haitians follow Aristide everywhere, like a comet�s tail. If Aristide is considered as a “Black Sun”, then the Haitians are “space refugees”.

“Yes, Haiti! We are pulled down to earth. Democracy� the exodus of the Boat People� with the Law of Probabilities, whether we think about Planck or Carter, it doesn�t seem that a solution will be found tomorrow�”

“What business did the Haitians have in that ‘boat’?”

“Say, there above, the Black Twin! Is it still broad daylight in the shadow of the ‘Black Sun’?”

“Oh God,” you say aloud to Mrs. Clinton: “Eureka! I have found it! Fiat lux! Let there be light! Que la lumi�re soit! Black holes, black sun, tunnel effect, Aristide effect, boat people, space refugees, Carl Sagan, Jimmy Carter� six of one and half a dozen of the other.”

There is loud laughter in the Oval Room.

Bill a ri Bill laughed

Hillary a ri Hillary laughed

Chelsea a ri aussi Chelsea laughed too

Humor is American, Mr. President, and so are dreams. Let my book Ha�ti, Que La Lumi�re Soit! be the “dark matter”, arguing in favor of the development of the Black world � visible and invisible!

In the area of science, high technology, creative innovation, and space exploration, I think there is nothing that America cannot deal with. That is why, in that spaceship of universal energy, I dare sail with a dream.

In my dream, it is your first trip inside your SPACE AIR FORCE ONE, propelled by the energy of invisible and concentrated dark matter, like black holes. A mini black hole of an avant-garde design whose motor sequence develops inertia, spectral speed, speed equal to or higher than that of light, and scientifically controlled reversibility of the phenomenon.

What a new synthesis, but also what a liberation!

Synthesis and analysis of two wings of the same bird � contracted and unfolded at the same time, following the heartbeat of the Universe tamed inside the infinitely small: “One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind!”

This would be the natural and constructive counterpart of Newton�s Theory of Light and Colors, which slows down that impulse. This is a necessary change in the name of development and progress humbly submitted on behalf of Haiti: a testimony of gratitude toward mankind. Let us go further, to the other side of the Universe, as suggested by an eyewitness: the Hubble telescope, with its camera.

“� Hubble focused on the centre of the galaxy [M87], an area 500 light-years across. The pictures revealed a spiral structure formed by fast-moving gas clouds being drawn toward the centre, rather like water going down a drain.”

“Dr. Harms said the Hubble spectrographic camera was then focused on points 60 light-years across on opposite sides of the spinning disc. This camera breaks down light into its wavelength parts, rather like a prism separates colours in sunlight.” (The Globe and Mail, Thursday, May 26, 1994)

Let us in the long run, replace the camera by a motor run by the ENERGY OF THE YEAR 2000, transforming the DARK MATTER from the invisible to the visible and vice versa. We would there by take advantage of the sequence of colored and colorless light speeds, so as to better visit the Universe, where law and order are transcendent, just as in democracy.

I have decided to write this letter because your leadership, Mr. President, like an inevitable and immeasurable energy, has practically absorbed me, allowing me to express myself.

On October 4, 1994, in the General Assembly of the United Nations, a voice echoed the power of your leadership. In new words, on March 31, 1995, that same voice will repeat:

“Even now, with the peaceful launching of the operation ‘UPHOLD DEMOCRACY’ on 19 September last year, a tropical smile has shed light upon the faces of those who espouse and love peace � Peacemakers, Peacekeepers, and Peacelovers. Together, President Clinton and we have managed to open up a �tunnel� of hope after so much suffering.”

That testimony by President Aristide at the U.N. emphasizes the magnitude of the efforts needed to bring about such a happy conclusion.

Your present trip to Haiti is the strongest confirmation of that sequence of events, and illustrates an unprecedented chapter in the annals of Haiti, as well as in the life of the Haitian people.

Thank you, Mr. President, for associating Haiti with your Strategic Development Initiative (S.D.I.) at the dawn of the “Star Peace”.

Lucien Bonnet http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca Please See “Bill A Ri And There Was Light!”

By Lucien BONNET

January 9, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

RE: Comeback kids? One, anyway. By Jim Wooten | Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 08:10 AM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

LETTER TO PRESIDENT CLINT Montreal, March 22, 1995