Thinking Right

By Jeff

January 8, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

Interesting that Fox News banned the man with the most money raised in the 4th quarter from their debates Sunday night.

My prediction is that this only serves to validate his claims.

Dr. Paul wins New Hampshire and rolls through Super Tuesday with barely a scratch.

By Sally Benson

January 8, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

CNN just reported that Hillary has hired Lorraine Bobbit as her new, kinder and gentler campaign manager. Hillary said that her old manager always went off halfcocked anyway so what’s the big deal? Hillary rose three poll points on the news, and the sale of rusty bolo knives have soared sending the company’s stock up today.

By Woobama

January 8, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

Or rather, Jim is praying that this is an unpleasant night for Hillary. We all know he has an irrationally personal dislike of the Senator and is elated that her campaign is facing a tough fight so it is no surprise that he would once again use his job at the AJC to try to tear her down.

By Camus

January 8, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

Yet again, a “support our troops” conservative finds it amusing to insult a man who served his country with distinction, rising to the rank of General.

Your slag of Wesley Clark is a new low, Jim. As a veteran, you should be ashamed. Or are you sporting a purple bandaid today as part of your show of support?

Disgusting.

By Lorena Bobbit

January 8, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Get my name right or prepare to be bobbed.

By ray

January 8, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

bin laden make bush look like fool

bush make mccain look like fool (south carolina? anybody? anybody?)

no thanks

losers

By Tom

January 8, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Well, of course, Camus. Don’t you recall Wooten’s paroxysm of faux “outrage” when MoveOn published a schoolyard-level pun on David Petraeus’s name (one that, as you may recall, originated with Petraeus’s own subordinates)? According to the Woo-meister, it was the most appalling act of barbarism that had EVER HAPPENED! Thank God we can rely on True Patriots™ such as Wootie, Dusty and jbmlaw to sort out for us which generals are Real Americans™ and which ones are traitors.

By Dennis

January 8, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

In a previous column, Mr. Wooten stated the following, “In public education critics are a dime a dozen — or cheaper. No money’s ever enough. No failure to produce results is anybody’s fault. Time and again the unwillingness of the state to give more of somebody else’s money is cast by some local systems as the reason they turn out poorly educated children.”

Other than following, “In public education critics are a dime a dozen — or cheaper”, the entire statement is nothing but a LYING PIECE OF CRAP.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Dusty

January 8, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Camus @9:25

Disgusting? You said it. Hardly a day passes that our “anti-war,troops,defense” liberal Camus doesn’t insult a man who is seving his country with distinction, rising to the rank of President of the USA by free election, George W. Bush of course.

But, now, Camus is disgusted that Jim Wooten mentions the results of an election, that General Wesley Clark fared well politically in only one small New Hampshire village. That is a vote count, not an insult. But our liberal is disgusted.

So we are to understand that liberal defeats are not to be mentioned (disgusting!) but any kind of insult to a Republican is just fine. That’s what is called the Camus homeland demolition derby.

By Sally Benson

January 8, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

CNN just reported that Hillary has hired Lorena Bobbit as her new campaign manager and the new campaign slogan is going to be, “Why settle for halfcocked change?”

Sales of rusty bolo knives have soared today.

By Heywood Jablome

January 8, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

Wow, the Lorena joke was even funnier the second time.

yo Sally

—Heywood Jablome

By Glenn

January 8, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Dennis,

I don’t relish disagreeing with you, and I appreciate your spelling things out yesterday so that I can look into your claims and see whether I can agree, but I do know already that I agree wholeheartedly with Jim’s remarks on education, except that I regret their mildness. No kidding. I’m not trying to get your goat; just being candid with you as you always are with me.

PoFo, I thought it was Jim’s job to tear Hillary down. If he’s not to do it, whom then shall we get? She’s a bloody awful person, and it’s a shame that she was ever First Lady of Arkansas, let alone the nation’s First Lady and Senator from the great New York. How long is the AJC supposed to pretend that she’s the smartest woman alive, a lifelong agent of change and an all-caring Eleanor effing Roosevelt?

Yes, Dusty, Camus is a traitor. But Camus is a good traitor, so kindly lay off, or else I’ll hold my fire the next time you get stuck in Injun Country like you did yesterday!

By Sally Benson

January 8, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Heywood, No, I would not. Ever. Under any circumstances. Which I know kills you, because I’m hotter than Jessical Alba.

By Sally Benson

January 8, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Quit myspacing, Glennduhng.

I dont post for the trolls. Different People come and go and glance at comments all day long. I just want to make sure they all get a laugh, not just you bolo-knife-challenged ballsacks.

I can gauge sentiment because you trolls are like litmus paper. Real papsmears.

By Glenn

January 8, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Mimesis,

Please don’t make me Google an Internet slang dictionary. I don’t understand any but your naughty bits. I joined MySpace last week, to view a friend’s page, but I still don’t know what “myspacing” is. And the Nettish use of troll always has alluded me, unless it refers to a blog interloper, which itself seems a kind of oxymoron given that the Net is a big open pipe where blogs are concerned. So I’m flummoxed again.

By Dusty

January 8, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

Glenn @ 10:50

Camus is a good traitor??? You mean like Benedict Arnold? Just a bit misunderstood? I have no use for such misunderstanding.

Sorry, but I did not realize that you had “rescued” me yesterday. That little skirmish was routine or perhaps you don’t know that. Insults are the only ammunition that liberals have. They use that instead of reason and loyalty.

And don’t insult my “injun” friends. I have spent too many enjoyable summers with the real people to even call them “injun”. They are Native Americans and I do mean Americans.

By Sally Benson

January 8, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

MySpacing refers to your peculiar habit of doing this: “Hi. My name is Glenn. How are you? I am fine. I am glad to make a friend today. We are friends now. No backs, no vice versas, no changies. I called it. Mother may I. Ha LoL. One day we will meet and I will buy you a beer. Ha ha ..lol…

ps. my chin strap itches, does your?

By Dennis

January 8, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

By Glenn January 8, 2008 10:50 AM “Dennis, I don’t relish disagreeing with you, and I appreciate your spelling things out yesterday so that I can look into your claims and see whether I can agree, but I do know already that I agree wholeheartedly with Jim’s remarks on education, except that I regret their mildness. No kidding. I’m not trying to get your goat; just being candid with you as you always are with me.”

Glenn, I like our exchanges. However, Jim Wooten doesn’t know a damned thing about education other than to complain.

I realize he has to write a column about something, but his remarks about public education are destructive, not helpful.

Below is an exchange I recently had on another column about education. (I’m going to be real busy today, so may not have a chance to get on very much, if at all).

As a retired teacher (33 years), and the parent of five so-called “gifted” children, I feel qualified to say a word or two here (although not the LAST WORD!).

First, public education is the backbone of this country, not the Pentagon, not industry, not Wall Street.

Public education is the biggest bargain this country has. It tries to do a job that is impossible because it is set up to be impossible to achieve the results that those who complain about it want to see.

IF IT WAS POSSIBLE, THOSE WHO ARE COMPLAINING WOULD BE IN THE CLASSROOM TEACHING.

Are there some teachers who fail to do a good job…(are there some CEOs who fail to do a good job but still get a tremendous separation package)?

If we should put into public education the same kinds of billions of dollars we have put into a failed war in Iraq, the Right Wing would be screaming bloody murder, their taxes are too high and government is wasting money.

The failures are not always the teachers nor the parents. Sometimes it is the kids, who see more value in watching television and playing computer games or dream of becoming the next O.J. Simpson or Ms. America than in education. Every child is not going to be “saved” until that vision is changed.

A good first step to improving education would be to toughen the requirements for becoming an administrator. Not less than ten years in the classroom before becoming an assistant principal, six more years before becoming a principal and nothing short of twenty years before becoming a superintendent.

And as the costs of living go up, so should the funding for public education in an equal amount or more.

As to “merit pay”, if a teacher of the “gifted” raises the test scores of the class by fifteen points and the teacher of the (being politically correct, here) “slow learners” raises the test scores of the class by six points, who gets the merit pay?

As one who was successful enough to have earned it (had it been in vogue during my tenure) throw merit pay out the door. I was doing the job I was hired to do.

POOR CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL IS THROWN OUT THE DOOR. We can’t do that with kids.

As for Leigh, (above) I once taught middle school for eight years from the time it was instituted in our school system, and then we were told that were was not qualified because we had not taken a class called “The Nature and Nurture of the Middle School Learner”, a new class that had just been created at the local university. Teachers, too, have to put up with a lot of crap.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By getalife

January 8, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

LSU National champions!

By @@

January 8, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Yes Jim, it would appear as though both Clinton’s suffer from a zipper problem.

PoliFore:

Don’tcha think it would be better to let others here compliment your laughable posts rather than doing so yourself under obvious pseudonyms (multiple IDs)?

Blow yourself????? I’m glad you refused.

Lawdamercy…what’s the world coming to?

By Education?

January 8, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

Good overview, Dennis. In Cobb County Schools, here’s what a seventh grader is exposed to:

1.) Personal Methamphetamine Addiction histories and bios

2.) STD data and self check techniques

3.) CPR techniques and scenarios about where to apply them

We’re training our children to be forensic scientists: Middle School CSI.

When I was in the seventh grade…..

By Company Man

January 8, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

CNN just reported that Hillary has hired Lorena Bobbitt as her new campaign manager. Sales of rusty bolo knives have soared on the news.

By Woobama

January 8, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

Glenn at 10:50am “She’s a bloody awful person” ?? Really? Have you actually ever met her? I have and can say that she just came across as really nice. What is it about her that is so “awful”? That she works? That she stuck by her husband? That she raised a nice daughter? That she takes care of her mother? What has she done that earns being called bloody awful? I’m serious. I’d be curious to hear what you think you know about her that makes her awful. And don’t assume I’m supporting her campaign. I just don’t get the irrational dislike.

Who is PoFo?

By Captain Freedom

January 8, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

THE Captain finds himself in need of remedial spin formation today. Heretofore, we have all known Shrillary to be an ice-cold, emotionless, castrating she-bot, and this has been a useful bludgeon to attack her attempts to execute a coup against Male American Hegemony. However, her flashes of anger and tears over the past few days have led several highly respected intellectual giants (Rush, Hannity, Hairless Mickey Kaus) to take the position that Hitlery is in fact an overemotional, permanently mentrual hysteric who should not even be allowed to drive or chop vegetables with a real knife for fear that her crazed hyperemotionalism will cause her to embark on a trail of bloody havoc (though this would explain the Vince Foster affair).

Which is it, Right Thinkers? THE Captain, while a paragon of free thought and independent True Beleief, cringes at the thought of committing inadvertent apostasy.

(No worries on the other candidates. On the ObaMandingo front…he his a hypersexualized beast with his brains in his billy club unit who only wants to know, “Where the white women at?” THE Captain has that one covered. And Edwards is a f* hair stylin’ girlyman. Check.)

By Dang

January 8, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Looks like it’s Glenn who’s in Native American country today. Keep your head low, Kemosabe.

By Profit

January 8, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

ALL WE NEED TO COMPLETE THE TRANSITION TO THIRD WORLD HE LL HOLE IS ANOTHER 20 MILLION WE T BA CKS CLOGGING UP OUR HIGHWAYS, CONSUMING OUR GASOLINE, HOGGING UP THE HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOMS, AND FILLING OUR PRISIONS. JUSUS H CHRIST, BETWEEN THE PRO ISRAEL PEOPLE STEALING EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT NAILED DOWN FOR ISRAEL, AND THE DUMMYCRATS GIVING THE COUNTRY AWAY TO MEXICANS AND OTHER THIRD WORLD LOSERS, WE ARE ALL S C R E W E D. UNFORTUNATELY, MOST OF YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO NOTICE

By Captain Freedom

January 8, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

THE Captain, who as a True Belief War Blogger is no stranger to mental imbalance Himself, finds Mr Profit a wee bit creepy. Even tftt seems pretty darn sane next to this guy.

By Profit

January 8, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

Hillary is a fake - Did you see her Jimmy Stewert imitation from its a wonderful life “I know what I am going to do on the First day” in office? What the hag does not know is that Jimmy Stewart was a Republican, and he would never have voted for the hag.

By Craig also

January 8, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Hey Profit - check out www.freerepublic.com. You might feel more at home there, with the other nutjobs.

By Captain Freedom

January 8, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

THE Captain knows the Freepers well, Craig also, and fears that Mr Profit is too unhinged even for their loose standards. Perhaps he could try Michelle Malkin’s site. They seem to encourage anti-social behavior over there. He would fit right in.

By Profit

January 8, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Yeah pea brains, just what part of my post did you not like: the bash about the transfer of hundreds of billions of american tax dollars to israel, or the bash about the invasion of america by 20 million mexicans?

By Jack

January 8, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Sally. Rusty hacksaw blades do better. Mr. Hilton should have one used on him for what he did to that hiker.

By Amused

January 8, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

I’m amused with the line “I don’t get the irrational dislike” of Hillary. You should get it - it’s the same irrational dislike liberals have for G. Bush. He, too, raised a nice daughter - or 2 - takes care of his mother, is said to be a nice guy in person,etc. No liberal or conservative should be able to keep a straight face when alluding to tacky statements made about these politicians by the other side. It’s amazing neither side sees that. Hhhhmmmm. Maybe that’s the problem? On another note, having 5 so-called “gifted” children doesn’t qualify one to speak on the education system. You might be qualified, but that little tidbit seems to be aimed at your own inadequacies. What size shoe do you wear?

By Sarafina

January 8, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

Profit, my uncle was in the military with Jimmy Stewart and remained friends with him for many years. I can tell you from what he told me about Mr. Stewart that he may not have voted for Mrs. Clinton but he would also would have had a strong dislike for anyone who refers to any woman as a hag. You have no class or grace.

By Darnell "The Velvet Bunny King"

January 8, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

Man, y’all ‘sposed to be blowin’ Wootie’s blog up. Cain’t y’all come up with some tight posts, yo?

By Profit

January 8, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Yeah, well Jimmy was also a womanizing jerk, but I was going to ignore that part, seeing as how he was also a republican.

By Glenn

January 8, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

Mimesis,

Makes sense now. That does really rile you, doesn’t it? Well, as long as you’ll dis comity when W tries it on Ted Kennedy or Obama on nations who want to see us burn, then I’ll avoid it here if it distracts your muse. Now, go to hell.

Dusty,

I didn’t come to your aid, and haven’t been doing so for awhile. First of all because I can’t think of anything to say that you don’t say better. And second, because you’re usually not you, but PoFo, and as you know I’m damned if I’ll defend the indefensible!

I still think we ought to turn Camus into an agent of influence, as that diabolical cleverness may carry some weight in the enemy camp.

Now as for our Injun friends, all mine call themselves “Indians” even when I try to do the “Native American” thing with them. My friends include a full-blooded, rezbred Chippewa, the Hopi Chief of Second Mesa, and assorted Pomos and Mission Indians knowledgeable of politics and other games of chance. Also, my first cousin was the first, and to my knowledge the only, white person ever given a ceremonial Navajo funeral. (Also you may have noticed that I’ve had occasion to mention a couple of times in this space that one of my great heroes is the late Chief Eli Parker, Maj. Gen., US Army.) I mention all of this to say that I would walk over broken glass before insulting Native Americans, as my family agree on one thing only: that they are approximately the best people on Earth. (Except Comanches; several of us don’t care much for them, as a rule, and not least because of their nasty habit of predating on other tribes. Still, I bought one of their horses and it was a fine trick pony, though somewhat skittish from abuse.) “Injun” is jes a good ol’ waya sayin’ “Indian”, as with “Cajun” for “Acadian” (French Canadian from Quebec, or Acadia). If you find it distasteful or insulting of your years of service to Native Americans, I’ll simply stop using it, assuming that being simply polite does not constitute forbidden “myspacing”.

getalife, congratulations!

Dennis,

Thank you for your long years of teaching service. I don’t exactly share your experience, but mine does overlap yours somewhat, in that I too taught middle school (in an experimental reform school) and have been of counsel to urban school districts seeking to reform the benighted but crucial middle grades. My training is specifically for education policy (for methodology: historical anthro. — don’t ask), from the federal to the district level but not below. Below that I’ve done some curriculum development (to my surprise and delight) and some work on homeschooling, but mostly when I go closer to the roots than the bureaucratic superstructures I focus on non-formal education (including non-school hours learning), my great enthusiasm. Anyway that’s where I’m coming from on this.

I agree with you about Wooten’s remarks on education, except that I would say he’s worse when he tries to be constructive. I’ve grown sick with rage at the surfeit of people who presume to be constructive about the problems of compulsory education. There are more problem-solvers who think they know about education because they have one than there are grains of sand in the Gobi. Not a one of them has done any good, and most of them are earnestly, triumphantly, obliviously, blithely, exhorbitantly, infanticidally counterproductive.

Something’s got to give, but nothing will, because primary and secondary education are so morbidly constipated, so firmly impacted with the stuff of intestines that no laxative of common sense will save the patient. They are dying in their own malarkey and taking down whole generations of other people’s children along with them.

Here’s an idea, Dennis, and I’m as serious as a heart attack about it. We should stigmatize teachers. It will be good for everybody. Instead of calling them ambulance chasers we can call them the blame-shifters. Or just idiots for short. They should become this society’s new pariahs, its untouchables. Only when these “professionals” are understood as the perpetrators of massive destruction that they are, will we be able to fire the two-thirds of them who don’t belong anywhere near a classroom (including their own children’s), and honor and financially reward the remaining third to the extent that we ought to do; that is, with the honor of a Japanese sensei and the pay scale of a systems engineer.

Fortunately much of this dismantling will take place without any organized, antagonistic campaign, because technology is transforming the means of service delivery right out from under the criminally incompetent teaching and administrative ranks. It is not an answer, it is an event. If properly husbanded, it can be a blessed event at that.

This, it seems to me, is the historical context in which we fail to find ourselves, the context in which our leaders and our candidates fail to find us. It’s exciting and promising, and the stakes are very high, because the stakes are the children of democracy.

By Woobama

January 8, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

Amused, the “irrational dislike” of Mrs. Clinton is very different from the feelings some have for Mr. Bush (although I will concede that the dislike for the President that some express is equally irrational). Agree with them or not, people have based their dislike of Mr. Bush on his public policy positions. I’ve never really heard anyone say what it is about Mrs. Clinton’s policies they dislike so much (except for her 1990s healthcare plan of course) but instead just hear things like she is “bloody awful” or “a hag”. With her it just seems to be personal and not based on her public role. I would simply like to hear what it is about her that is so bad. You raise a good point about the same types of vitriol being directed toward the president, but you didn’t answer my question. What did Hillary Clinton do that would cause someone to decide that she is “bloody awful”?

By Sarafina

January 8, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

Profit, not only are you a classless individual you also go on about things you know nothing about. Mr. Stewart was indeed a ladies man for much of his life but he was also umarried during that time. He did not marry until he was in his 40’s and after that he was a devoted family man. You simply don’t know what you are talking about. However, I will say it is just like a Republican to give a fellow Republican a pass on moral issues. They only hold Democrats responsible for morality. However, in this case you are misguided.

By Captain Freedom

January 8, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

PROFIT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE PERFECTLY CLEAR AND REPRESENT A CERTAIN STRAIN OF CONSERVATISM QUITE NICELY (A RON PAUL SUPPORTER NO DOUBT) BUT THE THING THAT MAKES YOUR POST APPEAR SO UMMM DEMENTEDLY UNHINGED IS THE ALL CAP TYPING AND LACK OF PUNCTUATION AND THE SPITTLE (GEEZ I HOPE THAT IS ONLY SPIT) THAT DRIPS FROM THE SCREEN WHEREVER YOUR NAME APPEARS…..THAT AND THE FEVERED WOMAN HATRED ANTI-SEMITISM AND HATRED FOR NON-WHITE AND NON_CHRISTIAN PEOPLE OF ALL STRIPES (NOT THAT THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT, RIGHT TRUE BELIEVERS??) HOPE THIS HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND.

By Woobama

January 8, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Oh, and Amused, I don’t have five gifted children. That’s Dennis.

By Johnny Comelately

January 8, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

Glenn, you are one of the few people outside the shadow of Mount Konocti who has ever heard of us Pomo. Thanks for the mention. Now all the rest of you, come see us at Robinson Rancheria. Have a Nice day. Get it, Glenn?

By deegee

January 8, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

Would anyone really want a Miss America if all of the candidates except Miss Iowa and Miss New Hampshire dropped out after the first round of competition?

By BS Aplenty

January 8, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

In an exclusive interview with AJC reporter, Mark Bradley, current UGA president, Michael Adams proposes a new system for electing the American president

In the break room at AJC HQ on Marietta Street.

Adams: Mark, I’ve been thinking about how we elect the U.S. president and I’ve got an idea that I’ve floated to our U.S. Senator.

Bradley: I’m all ears, Mr. President.

Adams: First, each of the candidates would have to appear on “Dancing with the Stars” - never seen a president who could lead on the dance floor but couldn’t lead in the White House.

Bradley: What next, singing C&W tunes on ‘American Idol’?

Adams: Spot on, Junior, let the people decide by phone who can carry the best tune. I’ll bet after a good tongue lashing by Simon we’d see who can take the heat.

Bradley: (…must be the hot air in here…) Sounds like a recipe for disaster, Mr. President.

Adams: Stick with me, kid. Finally, we give ‘em a SAT exam just to make the election look objective and weed out the poor spellers & multipliers - no offense to the Mormon & Catholic candidates.

Bradley: (scoffs) All due respect, Mr. President, this sounds like a trip through Dante’s Inferno, not an election. What voter would settle for electing anything that way?

At NCAA HQ, Indiannapolis, IN

Myles Brand, NCAA president: (to himself) You know, Myles, this BCS selection process is seems to be working out quite well…

Mike A.:

By Dusty

January 8, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

Dear PoFo the Velvet Bunny Blogger, 1:54

A tight post? Hmmm….spandex pants? Scotch tape? Airline seats? Telephone “posts”? Post-it notes? Post toasties?

Anybody else? I’m feeling up-tight. Nawww…just caucus fatigue. Keep trying, PoFo. Maybe we will snap out of it…maybe not. I noticed the Captain cannot even spell correctly today. Some posters on other blogs are exchanging recipes. Now that is sick sick sick!!

By Profit

January 8, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Quick Sarafina, what branch of the military did Jimmy Stewart serve in?

By Glenn

January 8, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

PoFo,

I met her too, at her former residence, and she was on good behavior, though strangely, almost irreverently casual for a First Lady. Her husband’s first Cabinet was loaded with my former bosses, and the place was very clubby in a stocking-feet kind of way.

I don’t see anything irrational about a dislike of either Hillary Clinton or George W. Bush. On the contrary, it seems irrational to assume irrationality in that regard. Her temper may be the only thing Hillary can’t control. Her favorite word is the same as the late Mailer’s. She’s unspeakably petty and cruel to her subordinates, and always has been. She’s a shameless plagiarist who never hesitated to steal credit and still doesn’t hesitate. She had the White House Christmas tree decorated with explicit sex toys for the children to see on their holiday school tours. She empathizes with no one she views as an obstacle to her ambitions, and that’s about everyone. She has not a single constructive reason to want to be President. I have looked in vain for years of any report, any sign of her having engaged just once in any moment of grace, graciousness or gracefulness. She is a hater. Her liberalism is of the very most counterproductive and powermongering variety. She all but definitively operates from a vantage of moral superiority, though I can think of nothing she’s done that would be commendable to a young person as morally exemplary. She’s a shameless carpetbagger. She spurned the public schools to put her daughter into Sidwell Friends, a school guided by beliefs she does not support. Her corruption of the media — specifically, her sham interviews and placement of false stories wantonly destructive of others — is ugly in the extreme and possibly even mortally damaging to our constitution. There’s a lot more to say about her (including some of the worst), but I’ll just say summatively that I’ve watched her fairly closely since well before the Gennifer Flowers incident, and Hillary Rodham Clinton is a transparent power maniac and, for purposes of her presidential candidacy, nothing else.

That’s why I dislike her.

By Profit

January 8, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

Why the big deal about defending HAGS? Oh, I get it, you STRONGLY RESEMBLE A HAG. So it is personal.

By amused

January 8, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

I can’t actually answer your question, because, while I think Hillary’s shown no gift for legislation, she’s not ‘bloody awful’ from a personal perspective. And while I concede that people do discuss specifics about what they dislike re: Bush’s policies - and I’m not crazy about them myself - most begin and end with personal attacks. Personal attacks make a mockery of true political discourse and dilute the discussion. They also give rise to the theory that if one has nothing to say, one will say a lot anyway. Oh, nd I was talking to Dennis(?) when I mentioned the 5 so-called ‘gifted’ children. It was too self-important a statement to pass up. Sorry it read as though I was responding to you.

By Profit

January 8, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

Yo Craig also - Isn’t your favorite web site called Stormfront or something similar?

By Glenn

January 8, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Johnnycome,

See you at the Rancheria! Odds are best midweek…

By Profit

January 8, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Why is it if an American taxpayer complains about giving American tax dollars to Israel, he gets labeled anti-sematic? Isn’t Israel a foreign country? Do I not have a right to express my opinion on how my tax dollars are spent? How does opposing the mass transfer of american wealth to israel translate to anti-semitic? Just curious, I know you will just blow this off

By Profit

January 8, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

You know, if it were not for the buck teeth, Jim Wooten could almost pass for Jimmy Stewert!

By Tom

January 8, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Profit @2:36—Wasn’t it the Texas Air National Guard? That’s where all the true heroes serve.

By Glenn

January 8, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Profit, I don’t see anything at all wrong with it. I don’t think it constitutes a “mass transfer of american wealth”, but it’s a lot of money and you are owed a justification for all but the black expenditures (which are necessarily secret).

I say this as a Zionist.

By Profit

January 8, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

Tom - No, Jimmy Stewert was a REAL hero, unlike the Chimp-in-Chief. Jimmy led B-29 bombing raids over Germany, George led beer bashes at Yale. It was Army Air Force, then Air National Guard, from which Mr. Stewert retired as a General. I doubt if the clown above’s uncle knew Mr. Stewert, I was just testing him.

By Dusty

January 8, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Ah Glenn, my friend,@2:02

You are a bit confused. I am always Dusty. PoFo does not use my ID. I use only my own. He likes wild and wooly unknowns such as Sally, Maureen, Ms Bobbet and other pop-ups like the Velvet Bunny. (That may change now that I have mentioned it. I think PoFo hates to be categorized.) Just thought you’d like to know.

Glad you got to work with many Indian chiefs and tribes. My work was in healthcare with the Dine’ and several others, mostly in Arizona and South Dakota. Always interesting, even though I don’t think I met any chiefs. I guess they were all healthy. Just my luck, huh??

By deegee

January 8, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

I guess the big story really is on the democratic side. BWAAAAAA!!!

“EPIC TURNOUT FOR DEMS — We Are Out of Ballots!

“Secretary of State is making runs to Seacoast – Hampton, Portsmouth – and Southern Hillsborough – Pelham, Nashua – to bring extra democratic ballots. Many towns are reporting shortages…”

By Jackie

January 8, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama is doing so well in New Hampshire, they have to try to find paper ballots to accommodate all those who want to vote. Hillary Clinton is still a viable candidate. She will win the big states and subsequently win the nomination for the Dems. The story of the day should focus on the Repubs. Which one of those gentlemen will step forward and take his whipping in November?

By Profit

January 8, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

Glenn - Yet the information is hidden - About ten years ago, the number was available, and people were complaining about the transfer of wealth. The number has been hidden ever since….

By Woobama

January 8, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

I still don’t know what PoFo means, but I think you guys think that Woobama is the same as the others that Dusty named? I don’t have that much time to post here. Sorry to blow your theory. I am neither Sally, Maureen, Ms. Bobbet nor Velvet Bunny — just Woobama.

Glen, you make some valid points about Mrs. Clinton and some wildly crazy accusations. Sex toys on the Christmas tree? Do you have something to back up this claim? Petty and cruel to subordinates? I know, and have known, people who have worked for Mrs. Clinton and I can only say that they are undyingly loyal to her. Maybe they like being mistreated. Have you actually heard her use Mailer’s favorite word?

Again, I don’t know her but have met and liked her. And know a couple people who know her very well and they say that the perception that some, such as yourself, have of her is so innacurate as to not even be recognized as the same person.

Again, she is not a liberal, but even if she was, how does that make her a “hater”? That’s just a pointless statement on your part. Just as it’s pointless to say that someone is hateful if they are conservative.

I’m still waiting for a rational explanation of the dislike.

By Jackie

January 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Dubya just announced that Iran made “provocative moves” toward US Navy ships in the Straits of Hormuz. I think the international boundary for each country is 25 miles. The Straits are only 25 miles wide. How does the Iranians make provactive moves toward the US Navy if their Navy is within their territorial waters? Sounds like Dubya is trying to find “weapons of provaocation” to attack Iran before the election to give the Repubs talking points and other lies to help in their bid for election and to burnish his reputation as being a president that protects the USA. Seems like this is the same play, same act of a tired old song.

By Profit

January 8, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

HOLD THE PRESSES: This just in: Shocking News: OBAMA IS A NEGRO!! ONE GENERATION OFF THE BOAT FROM AFRICA!!

By Glenn

January 8, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Dusty, your healthcare work sounds really interesting and worthwhile. The only time I did healthcare was with farm workers, but the non-gaming tribes can sure use it. For the record, I knew only one chief, Homer Kooyama of the Hopi. You’d have sworn he was Japanese, especially when he spoke Hopi. I was delighted when The History and Geography of Human Genes, a monumental, global work of genetics corroborated by linguistics, showed that the Hopi did indeed emigrate from the islands of Northern Japan/Eastern Russia, and brought their language with them fairly intact. Fascinating stuff. (Wonder what Mitt Romney would make of it.)

By getalife

January 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

I think the end of the Bush Clinton era is a good thing not bad. Change is not another Clinton.

For those with CDS, you still have Muslims, libs and illegals to hate on to keep you happy.

The next great party and celebration will be the end of the w disaster.

By Dusty

January 8, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

Deegee and Jackie,

Enjoy your excitement. New Hampshire’s total population is about 1,314,89. Atlanta has more people than that. And New Hampshire ran out of ballots? Wow, what a landslide! More like a pebble on the slope!

I don’t think I would make too many optimistic statements on this one. Have you ever heard of “don’t count your chicken before they hatch”?

By B.P.O.E.

January 8, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

(((((Was the Green Teletubbie responsible for the increase in turnout for the Democrat’s in Iowa? Researchers are now convinced that Hillary Clinton teamed up with liberal PBS’s “Teletubbies” during her First Lady days to brainwash toddlers into voting for her using the show that was wildly popular with toddlers as her accomplice. Those toddlers who are now 18, 19 and 20 years old were secretly programed to vote for Hillary as young adults. It seemed to have worked. 92% of those in that age group ended up voting in the caucus, up from a previous high of 16%. 90% in that age group voted for Sen Clinton, most likely accounting for the record number of Democrat voters.)))))

This is the cause of the record turnout in New Hampshire also. The Green Teletubbie is to blame. That Hillary is truly evil. She has somehow managed to steal the election. These young voters are probably gay too. Rev Fawell warned us. We laughed. Not now. Every state needs to order more ballots.

By Dusty

January 8, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Glenn,

I worked one summer at the Keames Canyon Hospital which serves mostly Hopis. The Hopi children had very Asian features. They are beautiful. I saw many of them enjoying a festival on Walpi.

By Atico

January 8, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

Unless you are a politcal addict, which it seems FOX and CNN are, there is just too much crap on this ract for the average American. It’s time for FOX and CNN to focus more on he real news and stop this policical hacking 24 hours a day. This also means you local opinion writers……. Stop the nonsense. We all know that Obama and Clinton will lose. Let’s just get rid of what we now have, and move forward in a more organized fashion with McCain as the President of the U.S.

By Darnell "The Velvet Bunny King"

January 8, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Yo Dusty, on them other blogs people be giving recipes for squirrel stew, using squirrel barfed up by a dog. Man, that’s not tight.

Oh, by the way, I don’t know who this mofo PoFo you talkin’ ‘bout is. I’m Darnell “The Velvet Bunny King,” and I’m out.

By Jack

January 8, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

Hey, that’s Jack & Mara’s famous stew. Goes well with baby wraps.

By deegee

January 8, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

Dusty, I suppose you don’t want to make any optimistic statements. What happened in Iowa below is happening again in New Hampshire. Let’s see if it becomes a trend.

“A record number of Democrats turned out to caucus — more than 239,000, compared with fewer than 125,000 in 2004 — producing scenes of overcrowded firehouses and schools and long lines of people waiting to register their preferences.”

By Dusty

January 8, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Jackie@3:34

Are you a completely brainwashed liberal?

News reports say that a fleet of Iranian vessels threatened to blow up a three-ship US Navy convoy OUTSIDE of Iranian waters as our ships were passing through the Straits of Hormuz. Then the Iranian ships retreated as the US Navy prepared to fire.

You think that President Bush cooked that one up? You think that Iranians are more truthful than your own President? You want President Bush to say we got in the way of a nice little Iranian boat race?

Yeah, the Cole was in a nice little boat race too and look what happened to that one. Only eight US sailors died.

Your memory is very short, selective and warped.

By Darnell "The Velvet Bunny King"

January 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Well then Jack can I interest you in one of Darnell’s famous brown skinless brats? I should have one coming out the … uh, oven, real soon.

By Glenn

January 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Woobama,

If those I listed are not rational reasons to dislike someone, what would be? Why ever would you conclude that if someone calls a person a hater it must be because the person is liberal? That’s a rather odd line of thinking. I see now that you are not PoFo; he is rational.

My authority for the Christmas tree claim is FBI Special Agent Gary Aldrich, whom I’ve met. I also know his editor, who on behalf of his publisher sourced the claim thriceways. There were many witnesses, you know. Some of them quite proud of Hillary’s blow for sexual progressivism.

If the people you know say that Hillary is not given to fits of rage and to extraordinarily foul language, then either you do not know the people well enough or else they do not know Hillary at all well.

It’s simply ludicrous of you to say that she’s not a liberal. First, she says that she is, and has spent years expressly defending the honor of that name. Second, her whole record, such as it is, is one of advocacy for liberal ends sought by liberal means. In other days I knew Walter Zelman and Ira Magaziner, the two gentlemen who secretly assembled her ill-fated healthcare plan. They are Left-liberal, and affirm that she is also. Third, for more recent evidence, look at the 10-point plan on her campaign website. It’s a festival of liberal vote-buying disguised as highfallutin social engineering, which is even more definitively liberal than good old New Deal vote-mongering.

Were I especially enamoured of your curious use of the word “rational”, I’d expect you to name what you would call her in place of liberal. I’m still waiting for you to list one of my “wildly crazy accusations”, and in the meantime don’t cotton to being called wildly crazy.

Let me give you another from a great store of Hillaryana. She pimped her husband’s veto fiat to her brother’s criminal clients. Would you like the precise amount garnered for that quickie?

Do you know that she owes almost one million dollars in stolen money she took from her chief fundraiser, the con artist Hsu? She’s admitted that the money is illicit, but will return only a fraction of one percent of it.

Why does Hillary do such things? Because she can. She does a lot of things because she can do them and get away with them. She’s the antithesis of Harry Truman in that regard.

And that is why I don’t like her.

By Darnell "The Velvet Bunny King"

January 8, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

Hol’ on Jack. The way my stomach’s growlin’ might be Darnell’s famous chili.

By cuspidor

January 8, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

yo bunnyman- go stick pofo in your snaggle toothed thumbsucking stank as-s

By HA HA HA

January 8, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

cuspidor writes like that mean @@ fool.

By deegee

January 8, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

Gee, what we learn on the Wootang blog. Native Americans look Asian. What next, white people from Boston look Irish?

By Unsurprised

January 8, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

Well, it is the Wootang Klan.

By Jack

January 8, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Not interested Bunnyman.

By Camus

January 8, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

There is no lie Dusty will not embrace if it comes from her ManDream of a President. Straits of Hormuz today equals the Gulf of Tonkin 40+ years ago equals the Reichstag fire 30 years before that. The story never changes, just the little details.

A simple fact of life: governments lie.

It does not matter if it is a People’s Republic or a Democracy or a Federation. It does not matter, liberal or conservative, Republican or Democrat. It is part of their function, which is to consolidate and preserve power. The only variation over time is the extremes to which this practice is taken.

The reason for this is that politics is intrinsically a zero sum game.

There are certain amounts of power/wealth/resources available in any given society. Politics is all about who gets to control these. This is why the blathering nonsense of David Broder and Sam Nunn and Holy Joe Lieberman about “biiiii-paarrtinsanship” amounts to so much cr@p. It comes down to a win-lose fight for control, which continues permanently, regardless of who wins-loses.

Rest assured, Dusty, that I will be be as forthrightly critical of any Dem who lies in the name of their own power, as your boy bush has done. Patriotism does not lie in the wantwit cheerleading of your government’s every move. That you have swallowed such a stance is ample proof of your vast emptiness as a thinker. It makes you a useful idiot, nothing more.

Real patriotism lies in a willingness to declare that one’s government stands in opposition to the codes of law and standards of behavior that a nation relies upon. In our nation, that includes the Constitution — all of it, godd@mmit, not just the convenient bits — and a commitment to the principle that “all men are created equal”. Lofty notions put in place by a bunch of wig-wearing revolutionaries 230 years ago, and ideals that you blow your nose on every time you take a bukkake from Bush.

I’m sure Dusty will have no problem excoriating whichever Dem wins the election. It is her unwillingness to apply consistent standards that makes her the object of ridicule on this board.

But go ahead, Dusty, cheer on your man’s march to another war. I’m sure it makes you feel all tingly and alive and serious. Who am I to trash your fantasy?

By Glenn

January 8, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

deegee, not Native Americans generally. Not the Costanoans or the Pueblos or Cherokee or Iroquois or Chippewa. The Hopi do. And their very different neighbors the Navajo also. What is very striking is the similarity, even the phonological similarity, of the Hopi and Japanese tongues. Had the Hopi and not the Navajo been the Code Talkers, the Japanese probably would have figured it out forthwith.

(And Dusty’s right about their children; they’re especially beautiful.)

In any case it’s very clever of you to have figured out without a doubt what it took Dr. Luca Cavalli-Sforza and an international team of geneticists, physical anthropologists and philologists more than 10 years to establish.

By getalife

January 8, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

“A Surge of More Lies by Congressman Robert Wexler

A new troubling myth has taken hold in Washington and it is critical that the record is set straight. According to the mainstream media, Republicans, and unfortunately even some Democrats, the President’s surge in Iraq has been a resounding success. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth.

This assertion is disingenuous, factually incorrect, and negatively impacts America’s national security. The Surge had a clear and defined objective – to create stability and security - enabling the Iraqi government to enact lasting political solutions and foster genuine reconciliation and cooperation between Sunnis, Shias, and Kurds.

This has not happened.”

Watched Paul on Leno last night telling the truth about the South lost to Al Sadr and w is betting on Malarki who is allied with Iran.

He said we are going to invade Pakistan because the Dems want to go after the ones who bombed us.

By deegee

January 8, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Glenn. I figured that since they live in New Mexico that maybe they came from spaceships.

By Glenn

January 8, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

Profit,

That’s disgusting about the concealment of financial supports to Israel. Even the Soviet Union was not secretive about the extent to which it propped up Fidel annually, usually through cane subsidies. I won’t forget your point. If ever the opportunity arises I’ll be sure to look into it. Disgusting.

By Dusty

January 8, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Cute, Deegee,@4:32

Glad you finally learned something. Probably you don’t know that Hopis did not mix with other tribes but kept to themselves, mostly on three mesas in AZ. Their genetic strains are therefore easier to trace.

Of course you compare that to Irish in Boston. Maybe the Irish look like …policemen…maybe..huh..lil’ genes with badges??

So much for genetic studies. Deegee knows all!!!!

By Woobama

January 8, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

Glen I read “She is a hater. Her liberalism is of the very most counterproductive and powermongering variety” as being connected and implying that being a liberal makes her a hater, but apparently it was just stream of consciousness on your part. Pardon me.

But I still say that most of your “facts” cannot be verified.

Gary Aldrich? A quick google search turns up the following:

• Congressional investigators wanted to question Aldrich about his accusations. But the former FBI agent would not cooperate because he wanted to maximize the publicity for his book tour.

• Aldrich’s publisher specializes in conservative books, including a book by one of the Los Angeles police officers who beat Rodney King.

• Aldrich’s publicist is long-time Republican operative Craig Shirley, a Dole supporter who also helped arrange the news conference where Paula Jones first accused President Clinton of sexually harassing her.

I will stick with my position that the White House Christmas tree did not have sex toys on it since the claim comes from someone with such a questionable background.

Your wildly crazy accusations are 1) there were sex toys on the White House Christmas tree, 2) you know enough about Hillary Clinton to know if she curses a lot, 3) you can’t think of anything she’s ever done that you could recommend as morally exemplary implying that you somehow know anything about her morals. I will leave it at that.

It’s ok if you don’t like her but you really should stop and think about why you have such a visceral reaction to someone you don’t know and will never know.

By Dusty

January 8, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

Oh poor ol’ Camus,@4:41

Must have gotten home from work in a bad mood. He has preached a whole sermon on anti-war and American aggression. Seems everybody in America(but Camus)wants to keep a war going. And he is going to save the world by letting terrorism rule it.

Strange, though. Every generation of my family has had one in the military. Not one of them wanted to go to war. But when agressors came and they did, those of my family have fought for their country. This is something that Camus cannot understand. Nor does he understand that all people want freedom.

I will push for leaders of this country who are strong enough to do what is right and I do mean ethically, morally and supportive of this country.

You set your own standards. I set mine. I will always support this country. I hope you will too. But, right now, I am not sure just what or whom you, Camus, support. You seem to be against everything in America.

By Jackie

January 8, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

@Dusty at 4:20

You must be a brain-dead neo-con that believes the Kool-Aid the Bush regime makes is sweet. The Navy said the Iranians made “provactive” - notice the quotes- toward our ships. A geography lesson for you. The Straits of Hormus is only 25 miles wide and the ships were in the straits. There is an agreement among all nations that territorial waters and boundaries do not apply to the straits, therefore, the Iranians sailing in the straits could be considered making “provactive” moves toward our Navy. Secondly, with all the firepower the Navy has, I don’t think those little speed boats pose a threat to those frigates. What do you think? The USS Cole was in port in Baharian when it was attacked, if you can remember. Dubya did not make this up, but, he is using this to further his campaign of fear - notice how you reacted - to embellish his tarnished legacy. Could you please validate?

By Shameus

January 8, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

And just what aggressors came from Iraq? When was that?

By Camus

January 8, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

Woobama,

This phenomenon of holding firm positions as to the character and quality of people in the public eye is epidemic. We have become a public that feeds on our celebrities as carrion, including politicians.

So, Britney is a bi-polar slut. Lindsey and Paris are love-deprived girls in search of a Daddy. Jen is a nice girl. Angelina is a castrater. So and so is such and such. All declaimed as though we have the first real clue.

In all this, the media is the first culprit. They feed us a steady diet of personality profiles written by people who either don’t know or care about their subjects. (All to keep our attention for advertisers, but let’s leave that for another day.) I’ve been present for public events and interviews with notable public figures, and have found the press coverage of these to be all but unrecognizable simulacrum of the real events.

Consider the state of political coverage today. All personality and horse race; who cries, and does it show strength (the men) or weakness (the women); who is up or down, who has the money? But very little about policies or positions, the very issues that should drive our vote choice.

It may be that our press is irrelevant and incompetent by nature, but I rather think that it is by design. The better to keep us occupied with nonsensical trivia like Britney or football or whatever is the diversion du jour. In the meantime, our electorate can be cajoled into voting for the “guy they want to have a beer with” or who knows how to order a fckg cheesesteak.

I actually like Glenn on this board most of the time. But I have to agree that this Hillary hate is not a rational stance, but is fuelled by a subconcious digestion of the steady diet of Hillary scandals and personality tidbits that have been staples of our media for 18 years now. And as such, it is a silly foundation for judging a candidate’s merits.

I personally dislike Hillary’s policy stances in many areas, especially foreign policy. As with her husband, I like some of her domestic agenda, but feel it is hampered by the DLC timidity that has crippled the Dem party for the past two elections. I probably don’t want to drink a beer with her, but I am willing to weigh the merits of her pertinent public actions against those of her opponents.

So sorry Glenn, we shout across the divide on this one. And really please and come on….Gary Aldrich as a source?? The guy has been utterly discredited. Talk about naked ambition and unsavory personality. Using Regnery press as a source from the Right holds about as much water as a Leftie quoting The Revolutionary Worker to support an argument.

Besides, I think it demonstrates Aldrich’s clear lack of succor at his mother’s breast and a traumatic potty training incident, coupled with repressed sexual blah blah blah that led him to revolt against the Hillary mommy figure, and attack Bill in an overt Oedipal fantasy. See, anyone can play.

By getalife

January 8, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this

Lets say China invaded Mexico and Canada, then their Navy was a couple miles from our coast.

Would you want our Navy to confront them?

Of course you would.

By Camus

January 8, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

Once again, Dusty finds herself incapable of answering the argument presented, so she creates a straw man to rail against.

My “sermon” was not about war beyond your gullibility on today’s “alarming news”. In your world, my commitment to the Constitution and the ideals of the 1776 revolution makes me “against everything in America”. The fact that you refuse to understand what I stand for when it is written clearly provides further display of your dishonesty.

One last example of blatant lying: “Seems everybody in America(but Camus)wants to keep a war going.” In fact, the opinion polls on the war in Iraq consistently point to the American public’s desire to bring this to a speedy end. But why trifle with facts that get in the way of Dusty’s fantasy world?

By Dusty

January 8, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

Jackie @5:21

I must have read a different news report from the one you mentioned. I quoted the news statements as they were written. Our ships were NOT in Iranian waters. They did not say Iranians were in “speedboats” but said a “fleet” of threatening Iranians.

The Cole was attacked off the coast of Yemen by terrorists. I gave this as an example of why the US Navy takes precautions from any foreign vessels rushing towards their ships.

You really think that the President of Iran is cooperating with Bush to set up a conflict situation?

Now that is twisted thinkiing if I ever read it. The only fear campaign I know of is the one you Democrats try to launch all the time about Bush. Iranians rush toward our Navy ships..soooo…Bush did it!!! More liberal whoopla!!

By Jackie

January 8, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

@Dusty

Not only is your reading skills impaired, so is your memory. Please find out if the Straits of Hormuz is considered international waters. If that they are international waters, then, anyone and everyone sailing in the straits could be considered being “provocative.” You are entitled to your opinion, but, you are not entitled to your own facts.

By Sarafina

January 8, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

Sorry Profit but I had to step away and live my life. Jimmy Stewart was my uncle’s commanding officer. My uncle was a very decorated pilot during WWII. You may doubt it but it is true. You don’t know me, you’ve never met me and you don’t even know who I am so for you to truly doubt me when you have so little information shows how unintelligent you really are. My uncle’s name was James O. Tate. If you really want to research him you can and you will find that I am telling the truth. He was also friends with Flannery O’Conner and their is a letter from him to her published in her book The Habit of Being. He was really quite a remarkable man.

By Dusty

January 8, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

Here’s Camus version of supporting American troops at war:* cheer on your man’s march to another war*. It is not American’s war against terrorism or America’s war for freedom. Camus cannot even remember 9/11 and neither can other libs. So forget the 3,000 Americans killed by terrorists in NYC. Lib credo: Bush did it.

And forget the terrorists, because they weren’t in Iraq until we got there. Uh huh..And Sadaam was one sweet fellow who wouldn’t have lifted a slingshot against us…well not until he got WMD which he was working to get.

No sir, any far left lib will tell you that Bush churned up the whole thing. And libs are going to save the world by running. Deegee is right. I think these folks came off of space ships.

By Glenn

January 8, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

Camus, no, NO about Agent Aldrich and the tree. It’s all true, and Hillary and her people have never denied it. I have no idea what anyone’s tried to do to discredit him, but it’s a waste of time. You are smearing a public servant of the highest honor, and that places you in the company of scum such as Hillary Rodham Clinton. You don’t belong there.

By Dusty

January 8, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

Jackie,

You better talk to news reporters. That was not my opinion on the Bay of Hormiz. Those were the facts presented by the news media.

Maybe you should check facts instead of making your own.

By Glenn

January 8, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

Woobama,

You deserve Hillary Clinton if you’re such a blithering idiot as to think that someone must know a candidate before one can decide whether one likes her or not.

Your bullsh!t on Agent Aldrich is just that, and also a fine example of garbage-in-garbage-out Googling. You keep moving the ball of your argument like a born loser.

Good luck to you. Try to learn a little about Hillary, pal. I worked for her people for 20 wasted years, and man am I glad to be rid of fools like you.

By Glenn

January 8, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

deegee @ 4:46 “I figure that because they live in New Mexico.”

The Hopi have lived in present day Arizona, due north of Winslow, for 800 years.

By Frank

January 8, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this

If Hillary loses it will be a LONG night for Bill.

By Camus

January 8, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

Glenn,

Guess I’m off your list of the “good” traitors, eh?

Once more on the personality issue…it is irrelevant whether Hillary is a sweet princess who makes her staff cookies or a demon harpie who makes them all snap and salute. It is all diversion, and you are gobbling the bait.

Look, you tout your man Giuliani, who has demonstrated over and over again that he is thin-skinned, autocratic, and not above using public resources for private pleasures. He has shown exceptionally bad judgement in the cast of characters he keeps close to him. He has made a public mockery of his ex-wife and used his son as a cover for his philandering. Still, you support him. (based on his policy positions, or at least I hope so).

I have a visceral dislike of Rudy, largely based on my time in and closeness to NYC. (Unlike Dusty, who claims 9/11 for herself, I have lived there and have a number of friends who were in and around the towers during the attack. Some made it out, some not. So she can go phuuk herself with her bs about me not caring or remembering.) His near-proprietary claim to the WTC attacks is disgusting, not least because it was his mismanagement that had the radio communications in shambles and the command center positioned in a ludicrous location, rendering it useless. He showed calm under pressure (a marked contrast to Bush), and put on a good show. But he did not do one damned thing of substance in those days except try to suspend the mayoral election and extend his term. Once the dust settled, he stood naked as a shameless opportunist. But again, our media loves the storyline they decide to tell, so who would tell St Rudy that he had no clothes?

But I’m willing to look at him on a policy basis. As to domestic issues, the man is moderately acceptable to a lib like me…easy on gay rights, supporter of gun control and reproductive choice. But his ambition for the White House has led him to embrace a foreign policy approach that is needlessly belligerent and foolishly reliant on a short-sighted confidence in the US military’s ability to control events inside other nations, much like our current prez. I believe, based on his statements, that he would be a foreign policy adventurist. And as such, he would not get my vote.

Nor would I have a beer with him. But who gives a flea’s fart about that? I’ve got friends already.

By Wes

January 8, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

“Dr. Paul wins New Hampshire and rolls through Super Tuesday with barely a scratch.”

hahahahahahaha……WHAT is wrong with you Ron Paul people?! Have you lost all grip on logic and rationality?

By getalife

January 8, 2008 7:16 PM | Link to this

Record turn out again in NH.

Its the economy stupid.

By Camus

January 8, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

Hey, let’s give the Paulines proper respect…their man beat the great Frederick of Hollywood by an 8-1 ratio!!! Landslide city.

McCain makes the media and village elders quiver with delight. Everyone loves the Straight Talk story, and now that he has risen from the dead, the coronation of St John can begin. Sorry Mitt.

And to wit, Mitt is proving yet again that a wealthy Presidential aspirant and his money are soon parted. A double-digit rejection that was supposed to belong to Hillary. That’s gotta hurt…

Rudy doesn’t even crack double-digits. Everyone loves Rudy.

The charms of Hucklebee do not seem to translate to the flinty New Englanders. Go figure…

And somehow every one of these guys is happy with the results. What a cheery group of boy scouts!

And it appears that reports of Hillary’s death may have been a bit premature. The Dems have a clearly defined three-person race. Will Hil and Barack tear each other apart and let Edwards rise to the top? What an entertaining ride!

Still early, lots of this could change, but very interesting so far.

By jason

January 8, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

Well where are all the Hillary Clinton haters? Surprising that no one has anything to say about her lead tonite! LMAO!!!!! GO HILLARY! HILLARY 08! HILLARY 08! HILLARY 08!

By Dennis

January 8, 2008 10:10 PM | Link to this

By Glenn January 8, 2008 2:02 PM “Dennis….”

Glenn, loved your points of view!

In very early 1970s, some of us were sitting around in Atlanta waiting for a GAE meeting to begin where I was going to call for a state wide strike (and did, and almost got it).

As we waited, we discussed the problems we were having with curriculum, motivating kids, fighting for funding…. Little has changed in all that time.

But I, like you, have some good memories and successes along with the down time.

Maybe if I had it to do again, I’d go into “public service”, or, write a newspaper column. :)

You don’t have to be blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.