Thinking Right

By RealRep

January 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

Mike thanks the real Iowa conservatives for turning back the imposter Mitt Romney last night.

We’ve only just begun, and welcome the McCain/Thompson defectors.

A vote for Giuliani is a vote for Hillary.

Huckabee ‘08

By Diogenes

January 4, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Jim,

As a reasonably rational human being, doesn’t the thought that the Republicans might have even a slender chance of regaining the Presidency terrify you? After the damages of the past seven years, I can’t see how any sane person would want to run a risk of a repetition.

By Common Sense

January 4, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

Jim, It’s a struggle for both parties. There are no good candidates on either side. The dems want “change” but what does that mean? Bring the troops home? Okay, but we’ll be fighting here. The dems are all about revenge because Al Sore lost in 2000. They don’t care about Obama. Universal Healthcare? Are you kidding me? People want the border sealed up and less taxes. Obama has never done anything in his life. If he wins the presidency then that is joy for the republicans because they will bury him four years later. As for the republicans who knows. I think that Romney and Thompson will be their ticket. Huckabee will screw up at some point.

By Glenn

January 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

John,

You ask why “Huckabee’s Christianity” has to be an issue in the context of his Iowa victory. We should ask Huckabee that question. It was he who made his privately held metaphysical convictions the most public of issues.

For me, it is not his religion that is at issue, though he wishes it were; rather, it is his irreligion. In the Florida GOP debate he departed from a question put to him to take the opportunity to answer a question he chose to pose to himself: what is the essence of the Christian creed? His answer was anything—-everything—-but Christian.

He’s a power loon, plain and simple. Watch him like a hawk.

[Rudy 08]

A Vote for Huck is a Vote for Jimmy

By getalife

January 4, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

Gomer will get the wingnut vote, get the nomination, then lose to a Dem landslide.

Another major thumpin.

By Common Sense

January 4, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Diogenes, What damage to our reputation are you talking about? Are you talking about Muslim terrorists that are now dead? Or Osama hating us? Last time I checked France and Germany put conservatives in office that love Bush. You sound like someone who got beat up in high school and was afraid of standing up for yourself. Why don’t you go back to sucking off Bill in the oval office.

By TW

January 4, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

Anyone heard when Fred is holding his press conference to throw in the towel?

By The true GOP colors come out

January 4, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Almost the entire Republican political, radio and print establishment hates Huckabee. I think social conservatives from around the south should make note of this. The conservative establishment only uses gun, god and gays tactics to dupe you into voting for them. Whan an authetic Christian conservative rose from the pack the establishment started shaking their boots. The conservative establishment only cares about wall street and defense contractors. Obviously, progressive positions conflict with many of your values, so it would be a stretch to ask you to vote Democrat, but you need to wake up and realize you’er being used by the GOP. Most social conservatives are up in arms about our immigration crisis, but you should know that the GOP allied fat cats on wall street and the chamber of commerce love the cheap labor. Basically, they blind you with a few wedge issues and they pick your pocket. The GOP doesn’t want a true southern social conservative at the top of the ticket. The reason the conservative establishment supported “W” was that they knew his openly Christian rhetoric was just a “dog and pony” show. The bottom line is the conservative establishment uses you and abuses you. As a Democratic I’m looking forward to the upcoming ideological civil war in the GOP. It should greatly benefit us. Even if things get ugly between Obama and Clinton their rivalry is more personal than ideological and wouldn’t effect the party going into the 2008 election. Simply put, the Democratic primary is not a battle over the soul of the party like the GOP primary is. The GOP primary is a disaster in the making. I look forward to seeing the modern GOP coalition crumble in the coming weeks and months.

By Craig

January 4, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

I think Giuliani is finished. He was a distant sixth in Iowa, getting only a third of the votes that Ron Paul earned. In a new New Hampshire poll this morning, he was polling in fifth place, behind Ron Paul. Rumor has it that Giuliani is running out of cash.

A string of early defeats will have his supporters in Florida and New York looking for someone more viable.

By Caucus Carcass

January 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

Huckabee looked very presidential last night, and did anyone notice how far away from Howard Dean style shrieking all the candidates stayed? Everyone spoke in measured, low volumne, low key, almost monotonous tones.

Next the candidates will be balancing a book on their heads during debates, and telling us where the rain in spain falls mainly….

By Common Sense

January 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

Getalife, When is the last time a dem candidate won the presidency in a landslide? Clinton NEVER did it. He never won the popular vote. Jimmy? Reagan was the last to win in a landslide and he was a CONSERVATIVE! The liberal nut bag dems can’t win with ideas. They have to smear and name call. Your w******* Hillary is the best at it.

By TW

January 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

The true GOP colors come out@12:17 - well played, old chap! Yes, what is the new age GOP to do? Seven years of loyal servitude has do no less than justify that pesky Al Gore and his claim that Bush was only concerned about the top 1%. There is a reason why the ten states with the lowest SAT scores in 2004 ALL voted for Republican Geroge W Bush’s re-election, my friend. Unfortunately, some only learn when the beer money is gone, the cable cut off. The GOP sold its soul in an effort to beat those lowly Dems, and now it’s time to pay up - no way around it.

By Caucus Carcass

January 4, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

You conservative nut sack neo-schlongs are through. I hope Huckabee, or Romney gets the nomination. Neither can beat Hillary or Obama. We’ll have the presidency. We’ll have both houses. The GOP will have to change their name and start over. How about the SOB?

By getalife

January 4, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Ha, ha, ha, a sore loser.

Get use to it loser.

cons can’t govern.

By getalife

January 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

Obama jabs Hillary:

Referring to his new status as the Democratic front-runner, he said: “This feels good. It’s just like I imagined it when I was talking to my Kindergarten teacher.”

Ouch.

By Common Sense

January 4, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Caucus Carcass and getalife, you two should have children together. Oh, that’s right, gays can’t procreate. True, the GOP left the Reagan conservative road and hung with the big spending democrats. It will take someone like Reagan to take hold of the GOP. You guys should really be careful of what you wish. We were attacked multiple times under b***** bill and I’m afraid that a big fat nuke is headed for the USA if one of those fantasy land socialist democrats land in the white house.

By getalife

January 4, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

sore loser,

Reagan is dead.

Back under your bed toe tapper.

Coward.

By Caucus Carcass

January 4, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Well, I never….!

By Common 17 yr old

January 4, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Yeah! You socialist fantasy land Democrats better not force another one of them communistic Medicare Plan D’s down our throats again you big spending socialists you.

RUSH RULES!!!!!!!!! PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!

HILTARY IS GOING TO SPEND YOUR LUNCH MONEY

By Redneck Convert

January 4, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Well, Wooten is putting out columns faster than Those People push out babys. This makes 3 in less than a day. Maybe he’s making up for that day he got bumfuzzled on booze and couldn’t open the blog up and everybody that tryed to read it got that How May We Help You? page. Or maybe Wooten is set on another trip to S. America and wants to get the column out so he can skip town quicker.

Anyway, I sure hope the Rev. Huckabee wins. We need a return to prayer in schools, getting rid of abortions, and turning back some of these civil rights laws. And putting the 10 commandments everywhere. Everything was about perfect here till Roosevelt and the libruls that followed him put in Social Security and civil rights laws and welfare and all that stuff. We need to get back to the early 1930s pronto and the Rev. Huckabee is the one to do it.

Anyway, I see this librul weasel getalife wants to whop us godly conservatives up side the head and longs for a day when the librul Democrats get in office and raise our taxes and bring our troops back in shame and shovel money to Those People. He just thinks too much. We need more godly conservatives like Sister Dusty that don’t let thinking get in the way of voting Right.

Have a good day everybody.

[Huckabee and the Rev. Robertson ‘08]

By getalife

January 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

“9iu11ani: ‘I lost Iowa, but let me tell you about 9/11…” He just can’t stop himself.

He flatlined in Iowa and he’s struggling in New Hampshire, but Rudy Giuliani shook off the early-state blues Thursday as only he can.

“None of this worries me - Sept. 11, there were times I was worried,” Giuliani said.”

“John McCain, January 3, 2008:

Q: President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years —” (cut off by McCain)

McCain: “Make it a hundred.”

Idiots.

By TW

January 4, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

Common Sense @ 12:46 - I’m afraid that a big fat nuke is headed for the USA if one of those fantasy land socialist democrats land in the white house

Yes, the American people have been most impressed with Bush’s OPERATION URINATE ALL OVER MYSELF following 9/11. Trillions of dollars and thousands of soldiers wasted on Rumsfeld’s games, only to elevate bin laden to martyr status beyond his wildest dreams. Not to mention your boy has done next to NOTHING about nookyooloor proliferation. The going rate on the GOP scare card is half that of a Falcon ticket. Sure, it’ll still sell in the trailer park, but only at half price, and only until the cable gets cut-off.

By DenisL

January 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Uhm… Of the remaining candidates in either party, which one REALLY promises to bring our troops home QUICKLY from Iraq. It sure is not the Democratic candidates AND it really is only one Republican candidate. Ron Paul. You know the part about Ron Paul’s Iraq war position that is so great, aside from stopping the killing of kids & our soldiers in Iraq, is that he wants the US to stand down from WW2 and actually continue Clinton’s policy of decreasing cold war military spending. Ron Paul goes Clinton one better by wanting to close foreign military bases and bring our troops home from around the world. This will save hundreds of billions of dollars. This will allow him to prevent US bankruptcy AND to save Social Security & Medicare, while stopping corporate welfare. I kind of like these ideas!

By getalife

January 4, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Is Huckabee really Gomer Pyle?

Shazam!

By Caucus Carcass

January 4, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

There are those dominatrix-repudlickans (dominion christians)who want to bring on the end of the world who think that a small nuclear exchange would be a good thing. They point to Japan and suggest how quickly Japan recovered from two nukes. THey just want to pare down the citizenry of the USA a bit (that’s all) so that their vision of a biblical prophesy of global warmeggedoning comes true. The melting pot that is our population doesn’t conform to the aryan white peoples republic AWPR that they want.

They are the real terrorists. That’s 4 sure, that’s 4 dang sure.

By Glenn

January 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

getalife, the guy whose resume your DP sources so nicely padded and then published? That guy you call “the loser”? You guys tried and failed twice to find someone better to put up. The Clinton machine already has failed to beat such men. Edwards already tried to encompass his undoing, and failed.

Don’t you think you’re being a little overconfident about the Democratic Party? I mean, irrespective of the fact that the Party is as shameless and dishonorable as Edwards and Hillary are, don’t you realize that it’s the Democrats who are “the loser’s” losers?

By jbmlaw

January 4, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Good afternoon all. I respectfully disagree with the assertion that all six will be viable candidates through Feb 5. Ron Paul has a ton of money, but not a prayer of getting the nomination; he is a nonfactor now. Huckabee will be finished by the end of Michigan, as his campaign is based on feign.

Either my guy Fred or McCain will be out after South Carolina. If the class remaining Feb 5 is Romney, Thompson, and Giuliani, advantage is to Giuliani, due to the split in conservative votes. If the class remaining Feb 5 is Romney, McCain, Giuliani, advantage is to Romney, due to split in moderate votes.

By TW

January 4, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Glenn - why such a dolt today? Perhaps a little cranky about the Giuliani forfeit last night?

By RW (the oravaginal)

January 4, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Jbmlaw, nobody wants to listen to your global warmeggedoning, so take your Reichstag fires and blame them on the eurotrash commies all you want, herr gobbles.

It’s Hillary, and everyone knows it. And dont expect the traitors on the supreme court or the terrorist-supporters in the Diebold Corp to help you this time around, Benedicked Smegmold.

By Glenn

January 4, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

jbm, fine with me. I agree with your read post-SC. Any of those three would make a fine walk-on for the Oval role. All three have done honorable work and have solid cores from which they can moderate reliably when necessary without being daft about comity with dishonorable persons, e.g. the recent and present Democratic leadership.

CC @ 1:29:

“It’s them Russians. Them Russians and them Chinamen. And them Russians.”

—Allen Ginsburg

By jbmlaw

January 4, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Dear True @ 12:17, you misperceive, we do not hate Huckabee, quite the contrary, but he is not a conservative. http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110011082 Our concern is his honesty, in falsely presenting himself as a conservative. Rudy and McCain do not deceive, and they are competitive. “it would be a stretch to ask you to vote Democrat” – in fact, that is what one does when one votes for Huckabee.

Dear TW @ 12:37, you are operating with wilfully deceptive information. The census tracts with the lowest SATs all vote for democrats; the census tracts with the highest SATs all vote for republicans.

Dear Redneck @ 12:58, great first line, my compliments.

By Glenn

January 4, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

True GOP critic @ 12:17:

The GOP establishment does not hate Huckabee; it just has no use for him. It liked W, years prior to his presidency, because it liked his dad and his own record in Texas. His religious openness didn’t especially bother them because it seemed to them authentic, and essential to the man rather than instrumental.

The same establishment doesn’t particularly cotton to Huck simply because he’s a no-account who’s full of BS. Moreover, he exploits his faith, and is an untested, loose cannon. They’re too cautious to like Mike.

By Common Sense

January 4, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

All of the democrat socialist bloggers on this site are sounding the same as they did in 04. Democrats are the party of killers, abortionist, felons and illegal immigrants. What a party to be proud of. This so called “ruined american reputation” was caused by Jimmy Carter. Half the problems we have with middle eastern countries were caused by him. Bubba Bill just paid off other countries. I could care less if other countries hate us. I have high self esteem and don’t need someone like Obama and Hillary to make me feel good about myself. Liberals are losers. Liberals can’t win debates and have low test scores because they all went to government high schools.

By RW (the oravaginal)

January 4, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

Emergency! Everybody to get from street!

By RW (the oravaginal)

January 4, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

Emergency! Everybody to get from street!

By RW (the oravaginal)

January 4, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

Emergency! Everybody to get from street!

By TW

January 4, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw - The chart says the ten states with the lowest SAT scores all voted for Bush in 2004. However you need to bend it so as to hide the fact that the tail, the back 98% of the GOP, ain’t got no brains - you go for it.

But as far as calling me ‘wilfully deceptive’ I am confused. Do you mean like ‘Support the Troops’ by needlessly feeding them into the Iraqi grinder? Or ‘No Child Left Behind’ - except for those who drop out? Or ‘The world is a better place without Saddam Heussein’, when the answer to that would be yes even if he had destroyed the world before we got him. If I am correct in this ‘wilfull deception’ idea of yours, I must say you are at least well versed in the art.

By Bikini Bimbo

January 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

TW, what are U talkin’ ‘bout. Anyone notice how that onion article hack used my punctuation? Everyone hacks from me. Everyone.

By jbmlaw

January 4, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Dear TW @ 2:11. I charge you with wilful deception. Let’s apply your plain language to the example of Georgia. You posit that the areas such as inner city Atlanta which generally have the poorest SAT scores are the areas that vote republican. Conversely you affirm that the areas such as Gwinnett County and north Fulton, which have the highest SATs vote democrat. Since we know that is obviously untrue, how would you characterize your “advisory.” I’d call it “typical Kos bs.”

By Mike Huckabee

January 4, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Mr. Convert, If elected I will require the 10 Commandments be printed on all liquor bottles and cans of PBR.

By TW

January 4, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw - so, your contention is that the red states are the ones with enough money in the burbs to drone out the dregs of an inner city and that rural counties play no part in the equation?

By jbmlaw

January 4, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Dear TW @ 2:44, pretty much right. Certainly closer to a truth than your patently misleading assertion about SATs and states.

By Another taxpayer

January 4, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

RON PAUL

By Jackie

January 4, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Mike Huckabee won Iowa because he had the courage to speak his mind and the Repubs in Iowa liked his message. Mitt Romeny is a gentleman that will say anything to get elected and will be roundly rejected by the Repubs. Rudy is transparent and has nothing to offer but “9-1-1.” The only viable candidate for the GOP is John McCain. Dubya has brought the wrath of the electorate upon the Repubs and they will suffer mightly at the ballot box in 2008. It does not matter whom the Dems nominate for Pres, the Repubs will take a MIGHTY thumping in the elections, across all offices.

By @@

January 4, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

Here’s what I’m witnessing in the dem voters Jim — their votes are dictated by what the media promotes. Obama gets a bounce in Iowa and they’ve all ditched Hillary for Obama’s message of HOPE.

Why the heck is it that dem voters look to someone in government to give them their HOPE? I make sure that hope is part of my everyday life. Noone ever took it from me, and no one can give back something that I never let them have in the first place. No political party, no terrorist, no tax man — I’m armed and dangerous with MY hope.

Whoever it is that told dem voters government or any elected official can give them hope had misled them a mile off the path of true independence. Of the Republican candidates you leave in play?

Huckabee? Nice guy. Doesn’t shoot straight.

Romney? Nice guy. Doesn’t shoot straight.

Thompson? Love the guy. Straight shooter. Quick wit that cuts.

McCain? Straight shooter but lifeless.

Ron Paul? Forget it! The U.S. doesn’t exist in a vacuum anymore. His world view died with the invention of the airplane.

Giuliani? <——There’s the guy. He possesses a quality that is critical in politics. Cunning and fearless resolve. He can be vicious with a smile. He’s a risk taker as was proven in his decision to bypass Iowa. He’s just moderate enough on social issues to get the vote and strong enough on national defense to inspire confidence.

His record as Mayor of NYC has proven he can motivate democrats for the common good.

By Jackie

January 4, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

The CIA tape destruction issue is heating up. Rep. Jane Harman (D-CA) disclosed today that she sent a letter to the CIA in 2003 voicing opposition to their proposed destruction of interrogation tapes of a mentally insane prisoner held at a secret overseas prison. The CIA considered her request and went forward in the destruction in 2005. In their issued statement, they said that “…a handful of agressive interrogation techniques were approved by the administration.” Didn’t Dubya say that this Administration does not torture and he is follows the rule of law? This man has classified the Secret Service White House visitors log as TOP SECRET, moved them to his father’s library in Texas and asserted executive privledge in the compliance with Freedom of Information Act. Wonder of wonders!

By B.P.O.E.

January 4, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

(((((Cox Newspapers, parent company of the Atlanta Journal and Constitution, has just instituted a bonus system for its online blog columnists. The subject of low pay was first brought up by one of its own columnists, Jim Wooten, who wrote a whole column about his meager pay. “At first we were going to fire our columnists and let our readers provide the content for free. Jim Wooten has proven to be irreplaceable because his best bloggers all turned out to be liberals. A competent conservative perspective is important, the current crop of conservative bloggers have come up short.” Cox decided on a bonus plan instead, Jim now gets $12 for each new blog column.)))))

I guess that explains the extra columns from Jim today. I always thought Barbara was a good blogger for us conservatives. I wonder if they asked her?

By Caucus jackass

January 4, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

Yeah, you never did …

By Caucus Jackass

January 4, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

That’s correct, sir. I’ve never hacked. I dont have to. What you read every day here is riffed off the top of my head, unedited, and that’s why there’s mispells, for which I’m famous, and rare problems with syntax. You see, if I hack, it takes me weeks to pull out of the creative slump I go into after I hack. I hacked once, in 1995, and it took months to get over the writer’s block. and that was just for one stinking joke I ripped from Conan. I’m not capable of hacking. I wont do it, I cant do it, I’m more capable of launching a cyber-loogie right on your nose from my keyboard through your PC’s 19” LCD widescreen than I am of stealing material. I will never steal material, ever, ever ,ever. I dont have to. I cant get all the material I create out, where do I get time to hack?

COunt on it. That’s why I’m the most influential blogger, by far. Everyone knows about me. Everyone. Part of my stand up act made it’s way into Robin William’s 2002 HBO special. I see my blogs in cartoons days later all the time, and on Leno, Letterman, the Daily show, robere, everywhere, man, on sitcoms, word for word dialogue directly from me, I hear interviews on public radio all the time where the author of the book repeats words he stole from me. All the time. Now if that’s all coincidence, then that only means I’m still the greatest because how could I have stolen any of it months or years in advance? See the problem? Across the spectrum I’m right on the media money? Right on it? See why I rule and Y you’re a loogie magnet? Kwweeck Thwoop! Oh, man, that’s nasty! You’ll never get that off. bwa ha.

By @@

January 4, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

It’s against my better judgment but I have to take a swing at the “foul-ball” that posted at 3:57.

PoliFore:

So what! You don’t hack but you sure do jack and yack.

Not very succinct with your latest example of diddling in self-interest were you?

And to think, you’re always reprimanding everyone here for their wordy t-t-t…

urds. Do as you say, not as you d-d-d-doo.

Sage advice indeed.

By It's amazing ...

January 4, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

… how often my quick, clever little comments will draw a long, demented literary, uh, well, loogie, from whoever the second Caucus Jackass is. It’s kind of Pavlovian really.

By RealRep

January 4, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Mike welcomes the defectors from the Romney/Thompson camps.

Because Mike respects McCain as the only other Republican in the primary, he will not make the Senator’s senility an issue.

A vote for Giuliani is a vote for Hillary.

Huckabee ‘08

By Another taxpayer

January 4, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

RON PAUL

By @@

January 4, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

it’s amazing a/k/a PoliFore:

Turn loose of your pug and try to grasp something else…

Whether the 3:57 was yours or not — your past displays have destroyed your credibility to claim such.

I’ve never viewed you as stupid but on second thought….suicide is stupid. It’s a final solution to what should have been your temporary problem.

Ego kills buddy. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

By @@ is confused

January 4, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

I think pockmarked foreskin is the second Caucus Jackass. As the first Caucus Jackass, I was playing off the last post of Caucus Carcass, who wrote, “Well, I never …” by writing “Yeah, you never did …” Then came the weird, somewhat funny rant. No wonder you’re confused. At least I know who I am.

By Caucus Jackass

January 4, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

Hey @@, Kweeck Thwoop!

ew

By @bjective @bserver

January 4, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

This is getting confusing.

By holdingAJCaccountable

January 4, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

If there’s any AJC blog that’ll get a Pavlov response to the words “Fair Tax” it’s gotta be this one, so here goes.

You go to a dollar store and buy something for a dollar. If the proposed Fair Tax is twenty three percent, most people would reasonably conclude that the total price would be $1.23.

But now I’m hearing that the real cost would be $1.30 and that Fair Tax advocates start with the $1.30 figure (instead of the dollar figure) and then claim that 30 cents is indeed the “23 percent tax rate”.

Is this true? I’m trying to like the Fair Tax (I don’t care if the rich get richer if it means less government intrusion into our lives) but this strikes me as a case of “figures lie and liars figure”.

With a regular 7 percent retail sales tax, one pays $10.70 for a $10.00 item, not 7 percent of $10.70 cents right? (Correct me if I’m wrong)

Well, what’s the deal $.23 tax on a dollar item, or $.30 tax on a dollar item, along with a song and dance that you’re only paying “23 percent”?

Again, trying to like the Fair Tax, but this is the first tangible evidence I’ve come across that it’s not quite the be all end all advocates make it.

By Caucus Jackass

January 4, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

@@, I’m just kidding, I know you’ve been part of the Wooten chat gang for years and years. I remember you and Wooten over on yahoo’s message boards- you guys really rocked back then and thanx 4 being such a good sport. How was your holidays?

By Another taxpayer

January 4, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

If you believed the economist’s predictions (including Greenspan and Bernanke) about the real estate market, credit crunch, sub-prime mess, etc…, then you should believe everything the Fair Tax advocates tell you. Give them a demonstration of your faith. Trust them. Numbers don’t lie. 1=1. See! Now watch this:

Suppose I start with a $100 investment and I earn 50% on my investment. Then, I have $100 + ($100 * 0.5) = $150.

Now, suppose I lose 50% of my $150. Then I have $150 - ($150 * 0.5) = $75.

It’s magic. I started with $100, went up 50% and down 50% and I’m left with $75. Must be inflation.

Ask yourself what counts? The answer should be what the Fair Tax does to YOU. Run the numbers (assuming you have income and expenses that are yours). At least you will have a valid basis for further discussion at that point.

Woof!

By Captain Freedom

January 4, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

THE Captain finds the advocates for the Fair Tax — much like the Ron Paul partisans — similar to partisans of Renaiisance Fairs (rather ‘Faieres’) and Star Trek conventions. Their tenacious cling to an impossible fantasy is indeed admirable, if not also indicative of a low-level mental illness.

But THE Captain offers sincere congratulations to Doctor Paul (doctor who?) for his three-to-one trouncing of the Mayor of 9/11. One wonders how badly Rudy needs to be smacked before he gets the message that the more people know him, the less they like him.

As for Obamandingo, THE Captain notes with satisfaction that over 60% of the Dem caucussers rejected his campaign. Pretty resounding rejection, THE Captain would say.

Meanwhile, St John McCain demnstrated yet again the appeal of his Straight Talk, garnering a whopping 13% and very nearly ekeing out a victory over the Walking Corpse that is Fred. Now that’s momentum folks.

By @@ rocks!

January 4, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

@@ ROCKS!

By Jim

January 5, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

IRAQ
Weapons of Mass Destruction found - 0.
Al-qaida links before Iraq invasion - 0.
Al-qaida links after Iraq invasion – MANY.
American Iraq invasion casualties (Pre Invasion - Bush) NONE.
American Iraq invasion Deaths – 3,874 and growing.
American Iraq Permanently Disabled – 28,385 and growing.
Estimated Cost of Iraq invasion (Pre Invasion - Bush) $50,000,000,000. To be paid with Iraq oil $.
Estimated toatal Cost of Iraq War (GAO)- $2,000,000,000,000. To be paid by current U.S. Taxpayers AND their children and their grandchildren.
Taxpayer $ which can’t be accounted for $1,500,000,000