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By f(x) = 36x^2

January 3, 2008 9:57 PM | Link to this

Hooray - a Theocratic-wanna-be who believes that the great bastion of freedom of the Western World should be ruled by someone who would impose his fundamentalist Christian beliefs upon a vast, multicultural, Puralist society has won the first state Caucus. I’m sure that the morality police in Saudi Arabia are applauding wildly.

Thanks, Iowa, for choosing America’s own Bin Laden.

By Jesus

January 3, 2008 9:57 PM | Link to this

Way to go Huck just like G.W. rap yourself in Christianity and watch the lemmings vote for you who are we as a country to tell Muslims to forego a theocracy when we as a nation live in one have we not learned our lesson with Bush…God if you truly exist help us

By Bob

January 3, 2008 10:18 PM | Link to this

Brilliant comments by the Christophobes who evidently never learned that the freedoms we enjoy are the direct result of Christian principles of civil society, not Muslim (Iwacko, I ran) and not atheist (Soviet Hellion, Repressit of China).

You don’t have to believe as Huckabee does to acknowledge the indisputable historical fact of Christianity’s foundational role in Western Civilization.

These ignorant anti-Huckabee commenters would have a real hard time with outspoken Christians like George Washington and even Thomas Jefferson, who I guess the Christophobic commentators equate with Osama and Sadaam.

By CDog

January 3, 2008 10:35 PM | Link to this

I like Mike myself. I plan on voting for him. Back when there were 10 or 12 Republican candidates, I said I liked Huckabee’s positions, beliefs, and values the best of all the candidiates. But I did not believe he had the name recognition, money, or organization to be a realisitic contender. I was resigning myself to having to pick from the least of three evils of Giuliani, Romney, and McCain. Now that he has proven himself a viable candidate, I am excited for the first time in a long time about a presidential candidate. I predict Huck will finish 3rd in New Hampshire, win easily in South Carolina, and surge ahead of Giuliani in Florida.

f(x), I don’t think you know what a theocracy is. Having laws based on Biblical morality is not a theocracy. All laws are based on someone’s theology or morality (whether humanism, secularism, paganism, hedonism, etc.). A theocracy is when a particular religion’s dogmas and doctrine are enforced at the point of a legislative sword (like the forced infant baptisms, church attendance, and Sabbath-keeping of the Puritans). Mike Huckabee does not advocate this.

Jesus, Mike Huckabee’s Christianity is just an added bonus. Fundamentally, people vote for him because he shares their values and political positions (pro-life, pro-family, FairTax, pro-2nd Amendment, originalist judges, smaller government, etc.)

By Jesus

January 3, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this

Bob, why vote for born again Christians GW and Huckleberry go straight to my Dad if enough born agains write in God I’m sure he will come back to punish all the sinners or click your loafers together and maybe some pious Christian Republican Senator will give you a reach around…

By EAVgirl

January 3, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

National security is indeed the issue and Iowa just picked the two weakest candidates.

Oh well, forty-nine states to go…

By Prophetess Kelley P

January 3, 2008 10:53 PM | Link to this

Praise! There is only one candidate that can claim the throne our dearly departing Prophident Bush. By far the top Christian in the field, Huckabee is a proven leader. In these times of the Islamo-Terroristic-Fascists we need NOT no ordinary President. We need a Prophident.

FOLKS, He is rising. Make Him your next Prophident. Elect Huckabee.

Spirituos

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 3, 2008 11:02 PM | Link to this

The numbers I have seen dem turnout at 3x 2004.

Anybody see #’s for GOP turn out?

Aren’t y’all proud to be American tonight?

By CDog

January 3, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this

Who said anything about God? Regardless of what you believe about God, our country was founded with a belief in God:

Declaration of Independence: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”

Who is this Creator? In its historical context, they are not talking about Buddha, Brahma, Siva, Vishnu, Allah, a pantheistic god of nature, or a desitic god who sits on his laurels and does nothind. They are referring to Jehovah God of the Bible.

Constitution ending: “Done in convention by the unanimous consent of the states present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven and of the independence of the United States of America the twelfth.”

They acknowledged Jesus Christ as Lord in our Supreme Law of the Land.

The Mayflower Compact:In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, etc. Having undertaken, for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country.

God is a Mormon, You are cool. I hope I have 10 kids just like you.

By Zeuss

January 3, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this

CDawg what does that prove? Absolutely nothing say it again…

By Lee

January 3, 2008 11:46 PM | Link to this

NONE of the Democratic candidates broke 1000 votes. All total, the Democrates could only muster about 2500 votes.

National media has been ignoring Ron Paul, saying he is not a viable candidate. Well, he pulled 10% of the vote, which by the way, is the magical number FOX used as the break point to keep him out of the debates.

By Mike K.

January 4, 2008 12:03 AM | Link to this

CDog: “Constitution ending: “Done in convention by the unanimous consent of the states present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven and of the independence of the United States of America the twelfth.””

All that is is a fancy way of saying September 17th, 1787.

You might want to look up the treaty of Tripoli, just 10 years later (Article 11):

“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion”

Sorry CDog but you are wrong. BTW Bob, George WAshington and Jefferson were actually both Deists:

“while Washington was very deferential to religion and its ceremonies, like nearly all the founders of the Republic, he was not a Christian, but a Deist.”

Page 92 of Paul Boller’s book Washington and Religion

By getalife

January 4, 2008 12:06 AM | Link to this

Wow, that Obama speech was inspiring.

He drew in twice as many voters as the gop losers and changed Iowa politics. Over 200,000 Lee.

What a great night for the Dems and change.

By Lee

January 4, 2008 12:17 AM | Link to this

Getalife, 200000. Where are you getting those numbers?

Here are the results per the AJC.

By getalife

January 4, 2008 12:28 AM | Link to this

Here ya go Lee

Obama’s victory made history tonight. It is a huge story in all the world’s newspapers.

Here is his speech

By Obama/Hillary = No Shot

January 4, 2008 12:39 AM | Link to this

All of you lunatics hooting and hollering for Obama or Hillary to be your nominee can pat yourselves on the back when we have four more years of Republicans in the white house.

By Artisbey

January 4, 2008 1:17 AM | Link to this

George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were devout Christians?

I must have missed history class that day.

The Founding Fathers did everything they could to keep people like Huckabee out of the mix.

Does “no religious test for office” ring a bell with anybody?

By Joey

January 4, 2008 2:10 AM | Link to this

Lee, the democratic party reports votes differently than the republican party in the Iowa cacuses. The numbers you are looking at is how many electors are assigned to a candidate based on their votes (I believe it takes several hundread votes to gain one elector). The exact numbers of actual votes are not released to the media by the party.

By GaLiberal

January 4, 2008 2:12 AM | Link to this

Idiot Bob wrote: The freedoms we enjoy are the direct result of Christian principles of civil society, not Muslim. Bob, you really should check your history before you shoot off your Rethuglicon done mouth. Muslims had a civilized society while most Anglos were still feudal societies. They made great advances in math and science while Anglos were burning anyone who dared challenge church dogma at the stake. Not very civilized if you ask me. Also, the ‘Christian principles’ you credit civil society are just the same as the Egyptians and other cultures that came before us. They are not “Christian”, but were co-opted by church leaders because it gave them power over the people. It’s pious morons like you and your religioNazi brethren that love to strut about crowing your religion. Just remember religions come and go.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And Bob and his merry band of religioNazis are living proof.

By Joey

January 4, 2008 2:13 AM | Link to this

Lee, the democratic party reports votes differently than the republican party in the Iowa cacuses. The numbers you are looking at is how many electors are assigned to a candidate based on their votes (I believe it takes several hundread votes to gain one elector). The exact numbers of actual votes are not released to the media by the party.

By ron

January 4, 2008 2:54 AM | Link to this

The Pastor in Chief has been ordained in Iowa.Nothing was determined in Iowa GOPwise. On to New Hampshire.

By atlw

January 4, 2008 4:03 AM | Link to this

Well, I can’t agree with this comment about Bhutto and Pakistan exactly when it comes to Obama. Obama has shown a lot more knowledge and understanding about Pakistan than Clinton (the self-styled ‘experience’ candidate) has. Not sure why it wasn’t pubilcized more, but Clinton made 3 gaffes (more than even Huckabee!) on interviews that revealed her ignorance of Pakistan’s political situation. Obama has shown a grip of the situation even before the turn of events with Bhutto’s death.

By erin

January 4, 2008 4:15 AM | Link to this

Wow, these comments remind me of why I hate discussions on AJC…you have people saying wacky things about ‘prophetidents,’ terrorist liberals, and how all the Founding Fathers were actually evangelicals (Franklin and Jefferson being in disguise and all) and then you have people calling down thunder from the clouds with caricature-like vitriolic spite on anyone remotely religious as if we’re not fit to live. Sheesh, people. Can we be civil, adult Georgians for once? Makes me want to toodle off to the NYTimes or something.

By jbmlaw

January 4, 2008 7:57 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I think the dynamics of the two caucuses differ greatly, even if they produced superficially similar results. Peggy Noonan writes this morning, as Michael Medved has argued for the past two weeks, that the two big winners had positive campaigns that resonated with Iowans. I agree only partially.

I think that “positivism” has a causative basis on the democrat side – Obama introduced himself pleasantly to Iowa and took down the queen of mean and the baby-channeling plaintiff’s attorney. The latter two both view America through the Edwardsian “two Americas”, a harsh lens of misery vs coupon clippers. Obama did not dwell on that which is terrible in our world. When Americans get to choose between a sunny personality and a sourpuss, they always opt for the latter (e.g., Carter v Ford, Reagan v Carter, Reagan v Mondale, Bush v Dukakis, Clinton v Bush, Clinton v Dole, Bush v Gore, Bush v Kerry.) Obama v Hildebeest and Edwards.

I don’t think that is entirely the case on the republican side – remember only one candidate asked whether Mormons believe the Jesus and the devil are brothers. I think Mr. Huckabee’s ability to tell a joke worked well for him, and Peggy Noonan argues that Iowans saw Huckabee as someone more like the guy they work with than the guy who laid them off. If Huckabee is indeed winning based on such negative emotions, his campaign will evaporate quickly. On the republican side I think the contest may come down to presidential temperament, however: the notorious bad tempers of McCain and Giuliani and Huckabee vs the cool of Romney and Thompson. Republicans almost always go for the cool.

By jbmlaw

January 4, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this

Apologies, through the magic of cut and paste I erred. I should have written, “When Americans get to choose between a sunny personality and a sourpuss, they always opt for the FORMER.”

By WFC

January 4, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

I’d love to see Obama vs. Huckabee in the 2008 presidential election. After 8 years of Bush, let’s see if the evangelicals can still pass muster.

By AM

January 4, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

Huckabee will win New Hampshire if he will talk Fair Tax… it’s a no brainer out there.

By Steve

January 4, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

If George Bush and his neocon cohorts (GOP) were so great on national security, why is Bin Laden and Al Qaeda MORE powerful now than they were at 911, and why did we spend trillions on a war that caused more anti-American furvor?

Come on, Georgians. Get with the 21st century. The rest of the nation is going to pull in the Dems for change. Iowa is just a sample of what’s coming.

Huckabee, however, will flop as the majority of Americans aren’t born again Christians and don’t want more of the same in the White House.

How many times did GWB invoke his Christianity, only to then snub his base?

By RealRep

January 4, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

What a night! Congrats to the real conservatives of Iowa for seeing through the imposter Mitt Romney.

Mike welcomes the McCain/Thompson defectors.

A vote for Giuliani is a vote for Hillary.

Huckabee ‘08

By Dusty

January 4, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw @8:03

Oh please, don’t tell me. You think that Americans will vote for the pleasant peasant for President? Like Peter Pepper picked a pint of non-pickled presidents or something? The smile that counts? Oh…. forgive them for they know not what they do or so it seems.

Anyway, I’m not worrying. Just waiting for elections until I start wailing or making whoopee over the President. This caucus carrying-on is fun for Iowa where things are pretty slow. Probably improves their economy also. Do you think we would get all this millions-of-brouhaha to take place in Georgia? Our weather is better.

By Del Watson

January 4, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

Jim, we don’t often disagree, however,on Huckabee we do. I voted for GWB twice and given those he ran against, I would have to hold my nose and do it again. GWB has been a failure as a war time president because of his refusal or inability to communicate with the American People. Reagan wasn’t called the great communicator for nothing and that’s how we beat the Soviets. I’m not putting Huckabee up with Ronald Reagan but he has been clear and articulate, which I think explains his success thus far. Hopefully, you’er not saying that Hillary would be a good war time president. As for the others, I don’t think any of them ever sported GI haircuts. Certainly not Romney or John Edwards.

By Jack

January 4, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Jim. No mention of Huckabee’s endorsement of the fair tax. Don’t you think that got him a few votes? I’d vote for Briar Rabbit if he could get the fair tax pushed through.

By Debbie

January 4, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

http://www.swtimes.com/articles/2006/11/13/weekinreview/news/saturday/news09.txt&reason=0

Monday, November 13, 2006 12:13 PM CST Huckabees Registered For Gifts

By John Lyon

Arkansas News Bureau • jlyon@arkansasnews.com

LITTLE ROCK — “Wedding” registries in the names of Gov. Mike Huckabee and his wife, Janet, have been set up at two department store chains in advance of the Huckabees’ move out of the Governor’s Mansion into a private home.

The term-limited governor leaves office in January, and friends of Janet Huckabee created the registries at Dillard’s and Target stores to help facilitate their transition to private life, Huckabee spokeswoman Alice Stewart said Friday.

The Huckabees purchased a 7,000-square-foot home in North Little Rock this year.

“Some ladies who are friends of Janet’s are giving her a housewarming party,” Stewart said.

Arkansas law prohibits public servants from accepting any gift worth more than $100, unless the gift is conferred “on account of a bona fide personal, professional or business relationship” independent of the recipient’s official status.

“Items costing more than $100 which are given to public servants to show appreciation for their efforts (i.e., to reward them for doing their job) or to reward them for past or future action are prohibited under this rule,” the law states.

Gifts from relatives are not prohibited, nor are wedding or engagement gifts.

The Huckabees married in 1974. They entered into a covenant marriage in February 2005.

By Debbie

January 4, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

http://www.swtimes.com/articles/2006/11/13/weekinreview/news/saturday/news09.txt&reason=0

Monday, November 13, 2006 12:13 PM CST Huckabees Registered For Gifts

By John Lyon

Arkansas News Bureau • jlyon@arkansasnews.com

LITTLE ROCK — “Wedding” registries in the names of Gov. Mike Huckabee and his wife, Janet, have been set up at two department store chains in advance of the Huckabees’ move out of the Governor’s Mansion into a private home.

The term-limited governor leaves office in January, and friends of Janet Huckabee created the registries at Dillard’s and Target stores to help facilitate their transition to private life, Huckabee spokeswoman Alice Stewart said Friday.

The Huckabees purchased a 7,000-square-foot home in North Little Rock this year.

“Some ladies who are friends of Janet’s are giving her a housewarming party,” Stewart said.

Arkansas law prohibits public servants from accepting any gift worth more than $100, unless the gift is conferred “on account of a bona fide personal, professional or business relationship” independent of the recipient’s official status.

“Items costing more than $100 which are given to public servants to show appreciation for their efforts (i.e., to reward them for doing their job) or to reward them for past or future action are prohibited under this rule,” the law states.

Gifts from relatives are not prohibited, nor are wedding or engagement gifts.

The Huckabees married in 1974. They entered into a covenant marriage in February 2005.

By Debbie

January 4, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

http://www.swtimes.com/articles/2006/11/13/weekinreview/news/saturday/news09.txt&reason=0

Monday, November 13, 2006 12:13 PM CST Huckabees Registered For Gifts

By John Lyon

Arkansas News Bureau • jlyon@arkansasnews.com

LITTLE ROCK — “Wedding” registries in the names of Gov. Mike Huckabee and his wife, Janet, have been set up at two department store chains in advance of the Huckabees’ move out of the Governor’s Mansion into a private home.

The term-limited governor leaves office in January, and friends of Janet Huckabee created the registries at Dillard’s and Target stores to help facilitate their transition to private life, Huckabee spokeswoman Alice Stewart said Friday.

The Huckabees purchased a 7,000-square-foot home in North Little Rock this year.

“Some ladies who are friends of Janet’s are giving her a housewarming party,” Stewart said.

Arkansas law prohibits public servants from accepting any gift worth more than $100, unless the gift is conferred “on account of a bona fide personal, professional or business relationship” independent of the recipient’s official status.

“Items costing more than $100 which are given to public servants to show appreciation for their efforts (i.e., to reward them for doing their job) or to reward them for past or future action are prohibited under this rule,” the law states.

Gifts from relatives are not prohibited, nor are wedding or engagement gifts.

The Huckabees married in 1974. They entered into a covenant marriage in February 2005.

By Steve

January 4, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Remember when the fair/flat tax concepts were raised in previous elections? They were squashed.

Why? The middle class ends up paying more, and not enough money comes in to balance the budget. The rich and poor pay less.

The GOP is bad for the middle class. When will you people wake up to that?

By Debbie

January 4, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

Judicial Watch names Huckabee one of the top ten most corrupt politicians in 2007

http://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-announces-list-washington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2007

By jbmlaw

January 4, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Dear Steve the Jew Baiter @ 9:19, you seem confused – being holed up in Western Pakistan, unable to move anywhere in the world, is “stronger?” You have a weird concept of strength. Sort of like “peace through capitulation?” “I surrender all” is perhaps an appropriate mantra for democrats, don’t you think, in light of the Christian revival in Iowa?

Ha, Dusty @ 9:32, no, I agree, the season is young yet, and tempers have yet to fray.

Dear Jack @ 9:40, I think you correctly analyze – the Fair Tax definitely helped the preacher, allowed him to borrow some “gravitas.” I don’t think he understands it, however.

By Anonymous

January 4, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

So, Wooten’s disappointed that Iowans “haven’t returned to earth” in light of last week’s assassination.

As usual, Wooten’s deliberately wrongheaded about this. Americans DO take terrorism seriously, which is why they’re exploring alternatives to the pigheaded-warmonger approach, a proven failure.

By Glenn

January 4, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

PoFo, if you’d just stick with your original repertoire, and resist excessive namejacking today—-as that was a brilliantly schity bit of cubist portraiture, your unique way of bounding this theocratic issue from multiple sides at once. Hardcore empathic literary blog de force, mon. Keep it up.

By Steve

January 4, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Fair Tax Reality - Who Get’s Shafted?

The middle class.

The “fair tax” is a purely consumption based tax designed to replace all other forms of taxation. As income grows propensity to spend decreases. Hence consumption taxes result in a higher % of income being paid by the poor than the rich. This is what is known as regressive taxation. In order to battle the inherent and obvious issue of taxing the poor at a higher rate than the rich proponents of the “fair tax” advocate a rebate to the poverty level. The result is that as spending increases the effective tax rate against consumption does continue to increase. But as propensity to spend is falling as income increases, there will reach a point at which the effective tax rate against income peaks and then falls. Hence with or without the poverty level rebate the “fair tax” will still tax the rich at a lower effective rate than the middle class. No matter what it’s proponents say, the “fair tax” does not create revenue out of thin air. Therefore in order to keep revenue levels static, with the burden of taxation moved from both the rich and poor (through the poverty level rebate) the middle classes will wind up paying more.

By Jerry Tyler

January 4, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

von Spakovsky is the guy who overrode the recommendations of the DOJ staff attorneys and approved the original Georgia voter ID law, which was inevitably found to be unconstitutional. He has been a Republican Party official and volunteer for years. He may be very “capable” of something, but I doubt it is the objectivity necessary to protect everybody’s rights.

By Alex

January 4, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

Huckabee can win New Hampshire if he talks-up Fair Tax … it’s a hot issue out there and the rest of the country….you want change? that’s a monumental shift of power from Washington establishment back to the people

By Dusty

January 4, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Well, Del Watson @ 9:34

While you are out looking for a great communicator, I prefer someone like George W. Bush who can work to keep America safe. You have fallen prey to the Democratic Revenge Movement that has tried to undermine everything the President has done. That includes their anti-war, anti-military (suppressed funding), anti-Guantanamo, anti-Homeland Security, anti-Supreme Court, anti-Katrina, anti-Afghanistan and anti-tax cuts. Liberal Democrats have done more to suppress America than any other time in history.

Sweet talk will not protect us and you better remember that. Democrats don’t care one way or another. All they want is a DEMOCRAT.

By Souldrift

January 4, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

“The attention focused on that assassination should have been a reminder that national security will remain the top priority for the next President.”

Of course it was. Many of us believe a more reasonable approach—for example, that of Barack Obama who may actually be willing to dialog with our enemy rather than bomb them unconditionally as Ghouliani might do—is the better approach.

Huckabee, though he’s too fundamentalist for my taste, is reasonable and respectful—which makes policy differences a lot more tolerable. Plus, hasn’t he said Iraq timetables are “absurd”? Doesn’t that satisfy you $9.11 nitwits?

I was extremely happy to see Clinton and the Three Stooges (Romney, Ghouliani, and Thompson) get a good whoopin’ last night. Clearly some people, many readers of this forum, need to step back and reconsider what makes candidates attractive.

No matter who wins on the Dem side, get ready for more fearmongering than you can possibly count between now and the general—as exemplified in this column.

By Steve

January 4, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

JBLLAW - I’m not Jewish. What’s up with your bigotry? Are all conservatives reactionary bigots?

By Jack

January 4, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Yes Steve but take in to account that the illegals, drug dealers, ETC will have to pay their fair share too.

By JP

January 4, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Lee: 2500 votes? You realize the Dem counts were PRECINCTS, right?

By getalife

January 4, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Obama and Iowa made history last night. The first African American to win a state primary and the turn out broke records for both parties.

Obama is using the unity argument for change and the wingnuts will show up for Gomer Pyle.

Bad night for the establishment when Edwards was out spent 5 to 1 and finished second and Gomer 15 to 1 and won.

A new day in America with all the world’s newspapers showing Obama’s victory.

America won last night and the long w disaster is close to being history.

By Glenn

January 4, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

The real Dusty is back! Hi, Dusty!

Del, I too see a slip in your logic, so maybe there are at least a couple of them. Here’s a blunt way of pointing out one bit of slippage: Douglas MacArthur was a warrior who was a great communicator, and he remained a great communicator as he went quite dangerously insane. So a great communicator in wartime does not a great wartime leader make, else Hitler would have been a blessing for Germany instead of its undoing.

By Corey

January 4, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

“outspoken Christians like George Washington and even Thomas Jefferson” Bob, did you flunk history? Mr. Jefferson was a deist. Mr. Washington never kneeled to pray, nor did he participate in the Eucharist. These men don’t appear outspoken Christians to me. The last time I checked deists are not Christians.

By getalife

January 4, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Total Voter Turnout (approximate)

356,000 Percentage of total vote

24.5% Obama 20.5% Edwards 19.8% Clinton 11.4% Huckabee (R)

By Steve

January 4, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

I’m wondering how folks can blame Dems for anything these days when the GOP has had control of both our state and fed govts for the least 7 years, with only recently a very slim Dem majority in Congress?

WTF??

By Glenn

January 4, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

PoFo in his proliferating instantiations has thrown out quite a number smartly succinct statements of stock criticisms attending the ascent of Mike Huckabee, little distillates of the things that bug people variously about him. The first accusation, @ 9:57, is that he seeks to impose Christian fundamentalism; a richly ironic accusation, as the power-crazed Huckabee already demonstrates his eagerness to sell out his creed wherever he sees a chance to exchange it for votes. In this theological if not theocratic sense, then, a compounding irony: Romney, who has made it clear that he is not a Christian, is nonetheless more adherent to Christian doctrine than is the ordained Huckabee.

Meanwhile the electorate and its favorite media sources continue to evaluate these men as labels—-“Baptist”, “Christian”, “Mormon”, “Minister”, “Theocrat”, “Conservative”, “Governor”, etc.—-rather than as persons. And the labels are at best Rohrschachs, and at worst, deceptions. The Fourth Estate is no longer shabby-genteel; it’s just shabby. The Press are well aware that the common voter wants a cribsheet, a “Cliff Notes” for Dummies going into the election, and the Press as always is happy to oblige. Elections are always semiotic exercises, economic war games in which symbols are pitted and traded, with votes at stake as proxies for power itself. But this time the players themselves, the candidates, are reduced to mere symbols. That’s exceedingly dangerous.

PoFo’s on to this, I believe.

By Dusty

January 4, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Glenn @ 10:20

Good buddy, I have been right here. Sometimes I wander off dealing poetic justice to our local losers, RedNeck & Captain. But.. they can bring a smile with their frivolities. Yes!!

I liked your mention of MacArthur, a good general until unchecked self-importance overtook his judgment. Which brings to mind a great wartime President, Harry Truman. He, too, did what it took to protect America, even dumping the popular but flawed MacArthur. I don’t think anyone mentions Truman’s oratory, just his strength.

By jbmlaw

January 4, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

Dear Steve @ 10:00, you used Buchanan’s anti-Jewish code word. We know your type.

By DebbieDoRight

January 4, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

Today’s Joke of the Day!! AKA Funniest (and least accurate) comment thus far

While you are out looking for a great communicator, I prefer someone like George W. Bush who can work to keep America safe. You have fallen prey to the Democratic Revenge Movement that has tried to undermine everything the President has done.

ROTFLMAO!!!!

By jbmlaw

January 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

Dear Steve @ 10:40, just when we thought earmarks and wild government spending couldn’t get worse – the theme of the 2006 election – the democrat congress proves it can outspend and outwaste republicans. I can understand your pride.

By HillarySucks

January 4, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

I’m not a Huckabee fan. The Iowa caucas means nothing. But, let me make a point about Obama. Liberals are so caught up in his “blackness” and fail to realize that the color of his skin will not make him a better president. His black skin is not going to make the economy better and his black skin is not going to end islamic fascism. If you liberals think that socialist medicine is the way then you really are brain dead. Go down to your local dmv and thats the exact kind of care you will receive.

By Redneck Convert

January 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Well, us godly white Christians won a big one last night. The Rev. Huckabee is going to change the evil ways of this country. We’ll have prayer meetings in the White House, women will have to have their babies, and we can get our three House seats back here in GA. Heck, we may even be able to start burning crosses in yards again.

I don’t put no stock in this Obama win. People were not allowed to vote in secret. So they were a little ashamed of speaking up in front of others and saying they would never vote for one of Those People. Just wait till the canadates get to New Hampshire and South Carolina. People will tell the press they are thinking about voting for Obama, but when they get in front of that voting machine the old Hate will come out and they will press the button for anybody but him. Just ask this Harold Ford what happened to him up in Tenn. All the polls said the race was even but when people voted in secret he went down big time. Alot of us don’t forget.

I heard from my buddy Jim Earl that Ben Franklin made fun of the godly evangelist Whitefield during revivals. Jim Earl says its right there in the book Franklin wrote about hisself. I guess Franklin was a Christian that backslid. Anyway, all the people that signed the Constatution was godly Baptists. That’s a fact and if you don’t believe it you are as heathen as this Captain guy that wants to bend all the libruls over a table.

Have a good day everybody.

By Common Sense

January 4, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Liberals live in a fantasy world. It was ONE state. ONE. Get it? There are many more to go. Obama hasn’t won ANYTHING! You people are retarded and that’s why you lose EVERY election. Dems control the house and senate because republicans started acting like fools in spending. Don’t try to play the Iraq war was the reason because WE ARE STILL THERE! Obama is not going to bring anyone home. Dems that won in 06 ran as Reagan Dems. This country is CONSERVATIVE. If you want socialist then move to The Netherlands. Please, you b*** in 2000, lost, and 2004, lost and you will lose this year. Liberals=Losers!

By holdingAJCaccountable

January 4, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Not so sure DebbieDoRight should be so quick to dimiss the efforts of Dubya. After all, we haven’t had an alien attack on our shores while he’s in office either. So he’s effectively winning a three front war (Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Milky Way).

And great leader that he is, he’s not even using his sterling defense against the alien threat to his political advantage (not wanting to give away the secrets of Area 51 and all that).

That doesn’t even take into account that not a single dragon attack has occured on U.S. soil during his time in office. Now that’s leadership!

By Andy in Cobb

January 4, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

To Jesus - Re: your first posting of this thread. YOU WOULD THINK THAT SOMEONE WITH THE NAME OF JESUS WOULD KNOW HOW TO SPELL. The word that you were/are looking forward is wrap not rap.
So you not only get an F in spelling but an f+ in common sense or the ability to put together complex ideas.

By Caucus Carcass

January 4, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

Common Sense: You R out of order, sir!

Roberts Rules of Order give guidelines for proper talking points, and you have violated every single one of them with just one comment. That kind of makes you a no good, dirty, lyin’ filthy piece of confederate trash, don’t it?

Camera to small boy chasing after me yelling, “Shane! Come back, Shane!”

If U were 4 real, you’d post data showing how frontrunners in Iowa finished in our last ten elections, and then you’d know how to blog an insight or two, but no, instead we get a troll who cant read or write or stand up straight. Next you’ll be calling a well-dressed liberal not a clothes horse, but a suspender monkey. How dare you. HOW DARE YOU?

By Caucus Carcass

January 4, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

Andy from Cobb: A little ruff on the poor sod, weren’t you? I know, I know, look at his comment, he’s a total zero, true, but think back to when you first blogged. Why, jbmlaw’s comments were so full of holes, he was more cheesey than the woman to woman blog. And most folks thought RW was brain damaged. and I, myself was so obnoxious, that I was banned daily by the AJC editorial staff. So you think the sod’s a loser? Well let me tell you about another loser……

By Steve

January 4, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

Whenever I see the wingnuts getting loud and shrill, I know that times are changing. Moderation will prevail and this country will be directed into a more prosperous future.

Thank you, George Bush!

By Prophetess Kelley P

January 4, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

What a great month it has been!

God is a Republican! There can no longer be any doubt. High Fives everyone.

First Sonny Perdue gets us all wet with his “Pray For Rain” bonanza! Look what happened when rain became a prayer priority! A flood of rain. Its no coincidence that we got a heavy rain after high school football and Christmas. Thats the busiest Prayer season of the year. “Pray for Rain” can’t compete with “Jesus please give me a toy machine gun for Christmas.”

Next, I got the Rolls I’ve been praying years for. Merry Christmas.

Now this. I’ve been praying hard for a Huckabee Prophidency. His win yesterday in Iowa is nothing short of a miracle.

Which kinda gets me to the point of this post. Folks, this kind of accuracy and dedication to prayer requires Me to raise My tithe. My Personal Prayer fee will go up to $20,000.00 per subject, which is still in line with industry standards. Far lower than the Huckabee motivational speech fee for instance. He’s getting $25,000.00 a pop.

This Saturday come out and see us at the Prophet Center. We are hosting a special prayer vigil for Huckabee, “Prey for Reign.”

Also, because I got my new Rolls for Christmas, I can no longer support the “Pray for Rain” campaign. I won’t actively pray for drought, but I do like to keep the Rolls clean with a nice waxy shine.

Hallelujah

By Common Sense

January 4, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Caucus Carcass Crap, What R you talking about? I made a couple of points that liberals hate talking about. How much heroine have you shot up this morning? Your paragraph made no sense. Iowa has picked more LOSERS in past caucus cycles. Why don’t you go back to sucking off Clinton in the oval office.

By John

January 4, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Why does this Huckabee win have to be a religious issue? What about his stance on Iraq, immigration, taxes, education and healthcare? Take a look at the whole man and Huck starts to look pretty good…and I’m with CDog “ his Christianity is just an added bonus” I think we could use a little morality in government.

By John

January 4, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Why does this Huckabee win have to be a religious issue? What about his stance on Iraq, immigration, taxes, education and healthcare? Take a look at the whole man and Huck starts to look pretty good…and I’m with CDog “ his Christianity is just an added bonus” I think we could use a little morality in government.

By Wiliam

January 4, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

PRICELESS!!

The Dems figure out that no one in their right mind would vote for Hitlary .. so who do they offer up as the sacraficial lamb?

A Mulsim who so despises the country he is forced to live in that he won’t say the Pledge of Allegiance…

Please, please, please VOTE FOR HUSSEIN OBAMA..

Can you say LANDSLIDE ?

By Dusty

January 4, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Oh cuss the Caucus Carcass and can him. It’s Po4 , flexing his Roberts Rolls of Riot again. Will we survive? Will Iowa stand as a Demo-wired Empire? R, will New Hampshire dampen their fire? Stay tuned 4 the next episode.

By Steve

January 4, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

What WILL you neofreaks do when we bring common sense and stability back to America?

By Craig also

January 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

Getalife, you’re right, America won last night. I think that even in Georgia, a majority of people will reject the lies and sleaze spewed by people like William @ 11:44.

By Glenn

January 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Prophetess, Prophetess,

I seek the answers to so many questions!

• Do disclose the provenance of your Rolls. Is it perchance white? Recently two white Silver Clouds came onto the market, one having belonged to Bagwan Sri Rajneesh, the other to Roy Halston. Is it one of those? Were you one of those men once, Prophetess? Have you heard from them lately?

• Prophetess, I SO resonate with your revelation that there is no coincidence in matters of football and rainfall. From you I have learned that there are more things that are not coincidences than I ever could imagine.

• Yet another coincidence: Archbishop Romero loved that song too, the one about “Jesus Gave Me a Toy Machine Gun for Christmas”! Only he preferred the Spanish version.

• From Christmas presents to wedding gifts, truly nothing, nothing ever, at all, is a coincidence—-is it, Prophetess!

I am hoarding my talents and will seek you when I reach the $20,000 mark. I’ll wash your Rolls anytime, Prophetess!

By Prophetess Kelley P

January 4, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

Exactly John. Lets not forget the celebrity endorsements. What a proud moment it was last night, seeing Chuck Norris standing behind Huckabee during the victory speech. Its heartwarming knowing that My candidate has his own Hollywood celebrity.

Lets not underestimate the importance of a good celebrity endorsement. Is it a coincidence that Obama has Oprah?

To me the election turned on those two endorsements.

Now if Huckabee would just start opening up some. It was kind of disappointing the other day when he had one of those jugular vein moments. He had a real chance to put some distance between himself and the others. He said gays shouldn’t have sex but could have gone further. Gays shouldn’t be able to have Christmas either. Think about it.

Huckabee missed an opportunity. No sex and no Christmas for the gays. Gays and Christmas, another front on the War on Christmas.

Huckabee for Prophident!

Spirituous

By Prophetess Kelley P

January 4, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

Dearest Glenn,

I have looked deep into the soul of your post and find that a promotion is in order. I now bestow upon you the rank of Bishop.

Everyone! Please welcome Bishop Glenn!

Huckabee for Prophident!

Spirituous

By Another taxpayer

January 4, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

One thing I need to know about our presidential candidate is what they have been instructed, by a higher being without physical form, to do in that higher beings name. Please note that phrases such as “George! Take out the garbage,” have been most likely eliminated by the prerequisite that the higher being have no physical form.

Also, these instructive voices may not be of concern as long as we have confirmation that the briefcase only contains a grocery list.