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In and out, up and down

Former Georgia Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney finds that Democrats and Republicans are just alike — both “eat out of the hands of corrupt lobbyists and feed at the same corporate trough” — so she’s abandoning the Dems to run for the Green Party’s presidential nomination.

In recent weeks, she’s campaigned in Texas, Oklahoma, Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota and Wisconsin. The Green Party will choose its nominee from among a field that includes McKinney and six others at a national convention in Chicago next July.

McKinney’s in — and it appears that Republican presidential candidate Tom Tancredo, a five-term Congressman from Colorado who had based his campaign on opposition to illegal immigration, is out. His withdrawal announcement is expected today in Iowa. He may be opting, instead, to run for the U.S. Senate to replace Republican Wayne Allard, who is retiring. Tancredo was never among those likely to get the nomination.

Meanwhile, on the campaign front, an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Wednesday finds that Rudy Giuliani has dropped 13 points nationally since November and is tied with Mitt Romney at 20 percent among Republican primary voters. Mike Huckabee’s third at 17. A brokered convention? Ask again after Feb. 5, which should be a big day for Giuliani.

McKinney, if she gets the Green Party nomination, could siphon off a few Democrats. But a nominee who can’t get reelected in an overwhelmingly Demcratic district is not much of a threat to either party. Like Jane Fonda, she strikes me as no more than a footnote from the past, a figure who once fired the passions but who’s now no more than an occasional curiosity.

In, out, up, down. The question really, though, is whether anybody is engaged in politics now. We may declare here a Christmas Cease Fire, giving ‘em all a rest until the new year. Tuned in or tuned out?

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By Shark Sammich

December 20, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

To answer Jim’s question: “is whether anybody is engaged in politics now.”

Sure. anyone reading this column is engaged in politics.

But you know as well as any that hard-news coverage winds down as the A-list reporters and pundits head off to their posh living quarters to take stock of another year spent lying to the citizens of this great nation and covering the corporatist right wing’s ginourmous backside.

From here on out it’s going to be mostly heartwarming “Daddy’s home from Eye-Rack for Christmas!” stuff.

Anyhoo, merry Christmas, Jim. I give you a hard time when the opportunity arises but I do appreciate the work you do in here, and I thank you for the opportunity to speak my mind.

By Jim Wooten

December 20, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

Thanks for joining in, Shark. Merry Christmas.

By RCH

December 20, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

What a joke.What makes me laugh harder is that the news media takes her serious. I am glad that she is now a resident of San Francisco,(where she belongs with all the other fruits and nuts) and can no longer embarrass the state of Georgia

By Jeff

December 20, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

I’m still watching the Hope for America, Dr. Ron Paul, pretty closely.

I’m thinking he is going to rise just as Thomas Nathaniel Thorn did in Dale Brown’s Warrior Class. Nobody expects him to even show up, and yet he does - in the White House come Jan 20, 2009.

What is telling is that Dr. Paul raised more money before the first primary ballot is cast than John Kerry did on the day he accepted the Democratic Nomination, and yet the only news article that comes of it is that he accepted $500 from a white supremacist. $500… out of $6 MILLION raised that day.

By RealRep

December 20, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

The United States deserves a President who is fit both morally and physically. How can we expect Giuliani to handle terrorism when he can’t stand the heat of a primary?

A vote for Giuliani is a vote for Hillary.

Huckabee ‘08

By Dennis

December 20, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten writes; “Former Georgia Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney finds that Democrats and Republicans are just alike — both “eat out of the hands of corrupt lobbyists and feed at the same corporate trough” —

While I agree that she is racist, her observation of how politics really work is on target. There’s no denying that.

As proof of the pudding, does Mr. Wooten know of anyone elected to high national public office who has not had the assistance of big corporate money? And does he innocently suppose that these corporations do not expect something in return for their “contributions”?

If the past seven years have shown anything, it’s just how corrupt or government really is.

Mr. Wooten writes; “Like Jane Fonda, [Cynthia McKinney] strikes me as no more than a footnote from the past, a figure who once fired the passions but who’s now no more than an occasional curiosity.”

Maybe Mr. Wooten wants us to forget that Lyndon Johnson hesitated to get out of Vietnam because he feared he would not be re-elected if he did.

Or, maybe Mr. Wooten wants us to forget that Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger went behind the back of government and ruined a peace agreement that was to take place during Christmas, in 1969.

And maybe Mr. Wooten has forgeto the “Peace With Honor” policy beginning in 1970, that allowed the Vietnam war to continue while American soldiers were dying because of Nixon and Kissinger’s political posturing.

If the past seven years have shown anything, it’s that the past is alos the present; it’s just how corrupt or government really is.

Cynthia McKinney is right, “…Democrats [Johnson]and Republicans [Nixon, Kissinger]are just alike — both “eat out of the hands of corrupt lobbyists and feed at the same corporate trough.”

There is your “footnote from the past”, Mr. Wooten.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignornt one to deny it.

By Glenn

December 20, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

The comparison to Jane Fonda is a little iffy, as McKinney is barely known at all outside Georgia. Even her new and equally kooky home state won’t know what to make of her, though it has always understood Jane quite well, for good and for ill.

The Green Party simply hasn’t gotten the memo informing it that it has been subsumed by the Democratic Party, which, in search of a more positive organizing principle than the right to abortion, chose greenism, an all-purpose metaphysic.

Tancredo’s exit will free up the formidable consultant Sal Russo to throw in with Giuliani (at just the right time) over against Sal’s old Sacramento partner and fellow Reagan staffer Ed Rollins, who now manages Thompson’s campaign. It should make for a fascinating bit of inside-baseball, watching those two friends go at each other. I for one will be greatly interested to see the result.

By Dusty Buster

December 20, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

We back Cindy over Dusty any old day. Any bets on how long it will take for the ajc to fold? Rumor has it that cox is holding billions in CDO’s and other tainted debt, imho. I sure hope the tainted stuff is in Jim’s retirement plan…… FYI for the soon to be unemployed ajc clowns - Publix has the best shopping carts, try to get the double wides, you can keep more junk in them. The best city to live in the streets is Athens, lots of half empty beer bottles everywhere, and the average IQ is low even by ajc standards.

By Shark Sammich

December 20, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

RCH perpetuated a rather ugly stereotype:

“I am glad that she is now a resident of San Francisco,(where she belongs with all the other fruits and nuts)”

Why is it ok for “conservatives” to regularly indulge in such nasty, bigoted rhetoric about such metropolitan areas as SF?

Yeah, I know, someone will offer a lame defense about how poor, put-upon Southerners don’t get a fair shake, but that’s nonsense. US media doesn’t go out of its way to call residents of GA “hillbillies” the way that practically EVERY pundit on FoxNews and elsewhere feel free to act as if the coastal urban centers were somehow “not America.”

I’ve seen the polling. I know where the public is on the important issues—occupying Iraq, universal healthcare, reproductive freedom, living wages, etc.—and they are a hell of a lot closer to those “fruits and nuts” RCH dismisses than, say, Mike freekin’ Huckabee.

By Captain Freedom

December 20, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

In. Out. Up. Down.

Why the preoccupation with sex, Jim?

THE Captain finds the fascination with Ron Paul touching, in the same way that He is amused by the dedication displayed by Star Trek fans and attendees of Renaiisance Festivals. The stubborn adherence to an impossible fantasy is not easy to maintain, and I salute this. However, let’s get real here…despite raising millions of dollars, Dr Paul continues to poll neck and neck with Alan Keyes at 3% or so. THE Captain swoons to consider what Keyes might do with that kind of dough!! THE Captain feels like he is telling small children the truth about Santa Claus, but come on and really Paul people…you are about as likely to wake up to next to Jessica Alba as you are to find Dr Paul residing in the White House. (And while the metaphor is admittedly male-centric, the sad truth is that there are approximately 19 female Paul supporters in the known universe.)

As the year winds down, THE Captain thanks you, Jim, for your forum, and He apologizes for all offences, imagined and real. THE Captain wants you all to know that He fully intends to continue dispensing His unassailable logic and fact-based commentary, right through the holidays and beyond. THE Captain feels that the quietude of the news cycle actually works to His benefit, as He is unlikely to be bothered by noisome facts and contradictory evidence.

So, as we happily wave farewell to our good “common man” pundits as they head off to Nantucket for the holidays (I’m looking at you, Russert and Wooten!!), THE Captain will remain at his post to ensure that Right Thinking True Believers will know what to say at those holiday gatherings where the inevitable visting Islamohomopinko relation spews Bush hatred and Cheney vituperation. So check in daily, folks, for your marching orders, and you will not find yourself tongue tied when one of those “reality based” America haters gets too heavily into the mulled cider.

And a very Merry Christmas to everyone, except the damned liberals who don’t even deserve a Happy Holiday or Season Greeting. Killjoys.

And apologies to Dusty for revealing the truth about Santa. It’s time you knew this, dear, but if you plug your ears and clap harder, you might maintain your denial for another year. It seems to work for all the other inconvenient facts that come your way. Hugs and kisses!

By Shark Sammich

December 20, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

THE gave us:

you are about as likely to wake up to next to Jessica Alba as you are to find Dr Paul residing in the White House. (And while the metaphor is admittedly male-centric, the sad truth is that there are approximately 19 female Paul supporters in the known universe.)

So funny it needed re-postin’.

By Redneck Convert

December 20, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Well, I see we still got our nutcases with us. Anyone that thinks Ron Paul will be the president needs to check in for treatment with TFTT. The guy couldn’t get elected to office if no one was running against him. Paul, that is. TFTT don’t have brains enough to know how to get on a ballot.

I think there’s about 100 people that keep going on the internet and making people think Paul has millions of voters. They are probly broke by now from having to fork over all that campaign money to keep Paul from looking bad. Same goes for Giuliani. The guy has had so many mistresses and divorces and affairs even Sister Dusty couldn’t vote for him. Maybe she’s got her eye on him to be his 9th or 10th wife or something. Anyway, us rednecks don’t take to all this adultry and You Know What and such and everybody knows a Republican can’t win without the redneck vote. Heck, if it wasn’t for us rednecks we wouldn’t even have My President in office now.

I’m with that fellow that said he’s glad this Cynthia person moved to San Francisco. She made us GA rednecks look real bad. Even we don’t take to beating up cops. We got to have Law and Order. And the Death Penalty of course.

Anyhow, yesterday was sure strange on this blog. I couldn’t tell which one was Sister Dusty and which one wasn’t. They all sounded like her—you know, saying you are a trader if you don’t support the war and stomping on libruls and such. I finally just give up trying to tell the diffrence.

This Glenn and TFTT and the other people was strange too. I couldn’t make out what they were saying but I think they were throwing off on my religion. Calling it untrue and such. And I don’t cotton to that. They are going to be throwed in Hell and get left behind when the Rapture takes us godly people away.

Anyhow, I got tons of beer to get to my bars and stores and no more time to blog here. For a godly Red State, GA sure does drink alot. Have a good day everybody.

By jbmlaw

December 20, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

Merry Christmas all. Most of us on this site have mouth in motion before mind is in gear, so I suspect we will have little difficulty filling the pages with low-level political stuff over the next 10 days, although it likely to be only “horse race” material. I am disappointed to see Cynthia as the likely nominee of the Greens; I was hoping for someone who would suck away votes of all of the Kos-nuts, not going to happen now. As to Mr. Tancredo, he never was a factor, certainly not after most of the other Republicans took his side of the debate on our Mexican friends; that is the risk of being a single-issue candidate. If he is the best the republicans can offer in the senatorial race, I suspect we should go ahead and move that marker to the dem’s side; will make it impossible to retake the senate next year.

As to the mainstream Republican candidates, I think Novak has handicapped it correctly. Mitt has to win one of the first two (IA, NH) to compete – all of the money on earth will not revive his candidacy if he loses both. Huckabee has peaked at a good time, if the withering attention of Drudge and the WSJ do not deflate his candidacy. Rudy has to show well Feb 5, or he is in trouble, but he has no performance obligation before then. Right now McCain has the most upside potential, closely followed by my guy Fred. Fred may be every conservative’s second choice, which could benefit him greatly in Iowa. However, that will do him no good in NH or SC. If he cannot poll approx. even with Huckabee in SC, Fred is finished. As to McCain, he may be able to stay in, even at a low level, until most others are forced out of the race – do not bet against McCain, but it could be a case of peaking “too late.”

With regard to our Democrat brothers, IA is critical for Edwards; he does not have to win, but he probably does have to finish second. He is situated somewhat like my guy Fred, he may be the consensus second choice for most, which helps in the bizarre IA system. I perceive the Hillaryites now treat Obama as the enemy, rather than as a competitor, so in those few places where they are not competitive they are likely to swing toward Edwards. The Obama rise has always been fueled as the anti-Hillary force, so their second choice will normally be Edwards also. NH will be the end for Biden and Dodd. Richardson is running for VP, but if Hillary does not win big and early, that will be a futile effort for him. If Edwards is knocked out early, watch for an Obama-Edwards ticket marketing effort – could get interesting.

By Tiny Tim

December 20, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

At least we know Cheney wasn’t waterboarding yesterday, or he could have put that fire out real early and quick.

George W Bush is actually America’s religious leader like Santa is actually a saint.

Merry Christmas!

By jbmlaw

December 20, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

Dear Captain @ 10:00, I am with our friend Shark, that is your funniest post of the year, my compliments.

By Captain Freedom

December 20, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

Like the Redneck, THE Captain was a bit perturbed by the exchange on religion yesterday. First off, the idea that anyone would try to reason with a nutter like tftt was enough to shake my faith in all of humanity. Second, it seemed that the occasionally intelligent Glenn (so deemed as he seems to agree with THE Captain on several issues) actually questions the inerrancy of Scripture. I’m with the slack-jawed yokel Convert on this…if you do not believe every word, every jot and tittle, you are certain to spend eternity in a boiling lake of sulphur and brimstone. God said, someone wrote it down in the Bible, and THE Captain believes it. End of story.

(It’s one thing to cling to an impossible fantasy like Star Trek or Dr Ron Paul, but this is not like that in any way, shape or form. So pipe down, you smarty-pants secularhumanislamofascists.)

But as for Redneck’s concerns that his religion has been slighted…fear not, you inbred stalwart, as there does not seem to be any mention of taking up of serpents or epileptic-style seizures and gruntings in their exchange. Your form of worship is safe.

By Shark Sammich

December 20, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

JBM, when you say “Richardson is running for VP, but if Hillary does not win big and early, that will be a futile effort for him”?

…I take this to mean you think Richardson would be a good VP choice for Hillary only? If so, why do you think that? I’d think he would be a smart pick for anyone else running, as well, with the possible exception of Obama (if only for the rather icky “too much ethnicity” factor some might presume of a ticket… sad, I know, but probably true.)

By Lee

December 20, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Democrats and Republicans are just alike…

Didn’t George Wallace make that same observation about 40 years ago.

Probably the best analogy of our political process is likening it to “two seagulls fighting over a dead mackerel.”

By Shark Sammich

December 20, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Lee, when “George Wallace [made] that same observation about 40 years ago”, he really meant to say that Dems and Reps fail equally to hate on the Negroes adequately.

This situation has, IMHO, been “rectified,” inasmuch as the current substitute for saying “Saygruhgayshun fo’evah!” is now “Isn’t it appalling how Those People can’t provide for themselves when they’re flooded and prevented from escaping at gunpoint?”

By getalife

December 20, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

She is correct about the corruption and a Alan Keyes kook candidate.

No thanks.

The dem strategy to cave and then run against it like Iraq will win but the cost is more billions corrupted and more importantly, life lost.

We have one more year of the Iraq and w disaster.

By Babes for Barack

December 20, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

In and Out, Up and Down. In and Out, Up and Down!

By Glenn

December 20, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Redneck,

That’s very judgmental of you and, as it happens, untrue also; I have it on good authority that God finds me friggin’ hilarious and intends to rapture me up just for laughs.

By Camus

December 20, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

A few observations:

McKinney is now and will forever be irrelevant. The only people who seem to care at all about her are the fringeniks on the far left and the scare-mongers of the right.

Good riddance, Tancredo. A truly nasty piece of work.

Ron Paul? Give me a break. The captain nailed this one.

Rudy…numbers are in free-fall on state and national levels. The more time and money he spends on NH, the worse it gets. To know him is to be repulsed.

Mitt v Huck. A good old theo-smackdown battle. Not good for them or the GOP.

Can McCain take advantage of the vacuum? He may take the nomination by default, but will likely be a repeat of Bob Dole in 96…a bit snarky and evidently infirm physically. (Thompson acts like he does not care, and is probably looking for an honorable exit. No way he gets the nomination.)

For the GOP to have a hope, the Dems will need to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Sadly, they are exceptionally good at that trick.

My money is still on Hillary to get the nod, with my heart behind Edwards. I think Hillary is best prepared to withstand the wingnut attack machine due to her long experience. Obama is far too concilatory and will be eaten alive. Edwards can’t seem to get the traction, and is an unlikely nominee unless Hil and Obama take each other down in flames. (It is headed in that direction. Will cooler heads prevail?)

As for the Dem veep, keep Dodd in mind. He has been very active establishing his progressive bona fides, and would be an attractive choice for Hillary.

One other prediction: Dems pick up solid gains in the House and the Senate. I look for the ritual disembowelment of Joe Lieberman to follow closely behind. (Note to wingnuts…that is a metaphor, not an actual call for violence. Restrain your outrage.)

By RCH

December 20, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Shark Sammich

Ugly stereotype? There is an old saying. “If the shoe fits wear it” After the city denied docking a proud battle ship in order to make it a tribute to our sailors, not allowing the marines to film a segment on city streets,denying recruitment by the armed services at local high schools and colleges,and the list goes on…………….It is where Cynthia McKinney belongs.

By Shark Sammich

December 20, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

Camus, I find little fault with your take on the horse-race, with one exception. Dodd, I don’t think, can be another Senator’s running mate. I don’t think it would be wise to have two acting Senators on the ticket. (Although Edwards, who’s no longer serving, would be an exception.)

I would love to see Dodd rewarded for what he’s done, particularly of late, for upholding the rule of law. But I don’t think it will be a VP slot.

By Camus

December 20, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Good point, Shark.

Richardson carries some strange baggage though. Remember his very odd claim to have been a professional baseball player? Easily disproved, and just plain strange. But even larger, he is a Hispanic person from a border state, and thus an easy target for anti-immigration demagoguery. The DLC-types insist that immigrant-bashing is a winner for the Dems, against all common sense and polling data. But somehow, those folks continue to get an audience (esp w. Hillary, who has the DLC crowd employed heavily in her campaign).

Questions:

Can Richardson overcome this hurdle?

Who else among the Dems is a potential veep? (first person to say Lieberman gets to take his place in the ritual disembowelment!!!)

By TW

December 20, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Camus 10:57 - Excellent Post. Thanks for the sanity.

By IQ of 40

December 20, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Captain funny.

By Dusty Buster

December 20, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

Never, ever trust a short fat man, like, like - Richardson - a proven liar. Never trust a cheater like, like - Rudy, Edwards, Clinton. Never trust a jesus freak, like, like Huckster, Romney, Bush - That leaves us with Obama and Buchannon - they would make a great ticket together -

By Anonymous

December 20, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

McKinney may be nutty, but she’s 100% on-target about the corporate corruption and pigs-at-the-trough similarities of the Democractic and Republican parties. Both talk a lot about the common man, but in the end do what their campaign contributors say.

By getalife

December 20, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

Obama eh?

No thanks.

By IQ of 40

December 20, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

Beyonce, Jessica Simpson hot.

Hillary, Huckabee not.

By ray

December 20, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

giuliani/satan ‘08

By Tiny Tim

December 20, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

CNN just reported that Cynthia Mckinney has taken the Falcon’s coaching job.

Fox just reported that she changed her mind.

By time for the yuletide truth

December 20, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

jbm

Like I said NOTHING is original, including Easter. The number of “virgin” (miraculous) births - amongst various gods/deities/propehts etc in the BCE - Before Common Era - was staggering. Dec 25th was a very common date for their birth. Resurrection - usually after three days - was also a common thang. The Easter thang was essentially a remake remodel of the Rite of Attis and Cybele in what was Asia Minor. Crucifixion - three days lying in a tomb and then magically resurrected having vanished from a tomb. Originally - for about 500 years they crucified a man - but they got more civilised and used an effigy - which still magically vanished from the tomb on the third day. The explicit details of all this are in Martin Larson’s out of print book The Story Of Christian Origins. There are other gods/deities which mirror this in various ways. You’ll find it on Amazon’s marketplace. The Ancient Egyptians used to eat the body and drink the blood of their risen saviour a couple of thousand years before Easter was even dreamed up.

The point is that the early christian church simply used/adapted what was ubiquitous practice and remodelled it to suit their ‘political/theological’ dogma. Remember that back then rational thought was unheard of and superstition and rumour and slavish often brutish compliance to the religion/cult of the day was the norm!!

The mohammedans right at the beginning of their poisonous racist/sexist shiite actually faced Jerusalem NOT MECCA for a year or so when bending over five times a day.

Don’t take my word for any of this - do your own research!!!

GLenn

Even putting to one side my decided ‘belief’ that jesus was merely a mythical/composite figure the rest of the UNDENIABLE ammunition eviscerates the hoax that is christianity. Note that I have only just scrathed the surface of said ammunition. Its way too detailed to post in explict chapter and verse detail here.

I note that in two lengthy posts U agree with most/virtually everything I have posted. The point is that what U don’t agree with - that’s left - hardly really matters.

Every believer/every church/cult/sect has its own ‘yardstick’ of belief - but it ALL essentially flowed from the early church bollocks and then the papists and the papist bible/dogma/theology - which admittedly was tinkered with as the emerging proddies et al got p!ssed off with papery. Whether or not U accept purgatory and confession and the rest and the Maddona and child cult - which was THE SAME thing just tweaked - as the Isis/Horus cult in Egypt doesn’t much matter. The ancient Isis/Horus icons were identical to what became the Madonna and child icons all over christendom in the first millenium CE. Just yet another FACTUAL example of what was deliberately stolen and used to try and maximise the VERY FAMILIAR appeal!!

Like I’ve been saying its staggering just how much of the earlier stuff was ripped off by christians … the ancient Zoarastrian dualism, most of Mithraism … the Greek and Roman Pantheons essentially became papist saints - preserving the familiarity. ALL the symbolism - the various crosses etc. The Fetsival of Lights. Eurcharist/communion, the literal demonisation of earlier ‘false’ gods … and on and on.

The christology bollocks, in its various forms is even harder to swallow - and it was ruthlessly imposed by the papists. We then had the orthodox schism a 1000 years on -over the birthdate and other matters. How the nicene creed could be definitively determined by self serving power hungry clerics 300+ years later is utter bollocks!! Some thing for the papist view of what’s apocryphal - and what isn’t. The bible - at least the NT element is simply a deceitful self serving collection of mythology, hearsay, deeply flawed oral tradition and p!ss poor or wilfully misleading translation.

There still is NOT THE SLIGHTEST SHRED OF PROOF anywhere that there is a deity of any kind. NOR that jesus is the son of god or part of a blatant ancient ‘pagan’ trinity.

Believe whatever U want mate and good luck to U. NO skin off my nose. BUt please don’t attempt to “spin” it with erudite paragraphs that actually don’t really address ANY of the only partial laundry list of facts that utterly undermine the authenticity of the staggering hoax that is christianity.

Go and read about the ancient jewish legend of Pandera and Jeshu - this is almost a mirror image of wot allegedly happened to jesus - long before it appeared in the officially approved NT.

If the bible/NT are flawed and inaccurate and clearly push historical lies/inaccuracy/dogamtic theology etc, if the festivals and rites are stolen/unoriginal, if the birth myth and death/resurrectiuon myth are stolen/unoriginal, if the eschatology is stolen/unoriginal, if even the alleged “preaching” of jesus is stolen/unoriginal - see the Essenes and Mithraism and even the undeniably much earlier elements of Bhuddism etc … then WHAT THE FOOK IS LEFT??????

If someone came up with all this bollocks today they’d be laughed out of the public square. Just because its all rather ancient DOESN’T mean that it should be accorded any respect or credibility. I respect the right of anyone to believe whatever they want … BUT NOT THEIR BELIEFS!! Nopt unless they are properly challeneged.

Anyway … Merry Christmas to y’all -whatever that means … for me its tinsel and lights and nasty pagan mistletoe and a few presents and the chance to be affectionately abusive on Chrissy Cards and in the past a christmas tree lit up, HM the Queen’s rather turgid speech, a roast turkey dinner followed with christmas (plum) pudding and mince pies and cream and BBC and ITV christmas TV specials of much loved programmes and best of all a full programme of LIVE FOOTBALL games to go to on Boxing Day!!!

Greg Lake and Pete Sinfield had it down …

They said there’ll be snow at Christmas

They said there’ll be peace on Earth

But instead it just kept on raining

A veil of tears for the Virgin’s birth

I remember one Christmas morning

A winters light and a distant choir

And the peal of a bell and that Christmas Tree smell

And their eyes full of tinsel and fire

They sold me a dream of Christmas

They sold me a Silent Night

And they told me a fairy story

‘Till I believed in the Israelite

And I believed in Father Christmas

And I looked at the sky with excited eyes

‘Till I woke with a yawn in the first light of dawn

And I saw him and through his disguise

I wish you a hopeful Christmas

I wish you a brave New Year

All anguish pain and sadness

Leave your heart and let your road be clear

They said there’ll be snow at Christmas

They said there’ll be peace on Earth

Hallelujah Noel be it Heaven or Hell

The Christmas you get you deserve.

La la la la la la la la la la….

By AmVet

December 20, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

First, to the esteemed Redneck Convert, if you any pull at all, could you PLEASE talk to that crowd down in Atlanta and tell those Neanderthals to open up the package store’s proverbial taps on Sunday? Thanks much!

As for the 19 Ron Paul virgins, I was driving back from Florida a few months ago and near Macon saw this very attractive young brunette with one of those seemingly ubiquitous bumper stickers on her Honda, and I was duly impressed.

Now maybe it was daddy’s car, but maybe not. And it got me wondering if the other 18 Paul babes, were also fine.

And IF so, it might just be enough for me to consider the otherwise laughed at Dr. Paul as an option!

By IQ of 40

December 20, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

AmVet horndog.

By Tiny Tim

December 20, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

Time4duh2th’s crocodile-codicil about the virgin-birth reminds me of how he tossed his cellmate’s salad even after he knew that his cellmate owned a salad shooter. Somethings just happen, pal, your in-vitro veto is overruled by history. Remember, even a sundial is correct 100% of the time. Maybe if you studied hygiene as much as you studied mythology then your comments wouldn’t smell so much like a satyr.

Jesus loves you, time4,

GBUE

By time for the ultimate Yuletide truth

December 20, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

poor old Tiny Dick

its been nicked by the local plod yet again this year for attempting to sexually molest Father Christmas in the mall. It’s also facing charges of public lewdness with a large plastic reindeer.

As ever its fooking hilarious to see that this anal shrivelled cretinous foreskin CANNOT actually debate facts but just peddles puerile anally unfunny witless abuse!!!

As we saw yesterday Sir Anthony Hopkins in Hannibal deploying his most devilish culinary art deprived U of the most useful part of what passed for your brain. Maybe he could puke it back up for ya … bet that would be your best xmas pressie ever - eh bubbaturd???!!!

jesus (if ever alive) is DEAD dickweed … end of!!!

get over it already!!!

P.S - talking of myths and fairy tales weren’t U that Snow White impersonator that got obsessed with being gangbanged by ALL SEVEN dwarves???!!!

By jbmlaw

December 20, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Dear Shark @ 10:27, I agree with your broad evaluation of Richardson and his skills, but he is really a match only for Hillary, and only if she locks it up early. If the race is protracted, pressure will build for a “unity” ticket, ala Kennedy/Johnson in 1960. If Obama ekes out a close race, I think he would likely owe Edwards first consideration, as it is only with Edwards votes that Obama can win the nomination. Similarly, if Edwards can get some momentum, it is likely to be at Obama’s expense, and he would owe Obama voters (and surely he would like to tap into the Harpo connection.)

Dear Tiny @ 11:57, great one-liner.

By Dusty Buster

December 20, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

All I can say about the falconettes is FIRE BLANK - HE IS AN IDIOT!

By Dusty Buster

December 20, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

Can we get Martin Blanc to coach the falconettes?

By Dusty Buster

December 20, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

You cannot imagine how much I hate and dispise the ajc and uga, two pos’s that should both soon cease to exist. Everyone, cancel you ajc subscription, and p@@@ on Athens.

By Redneck Convert

December 20, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

Well, the chicken weenies was extra good at lunch today. I just wanted to tell this Captain guy thanks. I’m glad I won’t have to change the way I worship. Far as I’m concerned, it ain’t worship if somebody don’t break into tongues and roll around the floor and handle a snake or two.

Anyway, I want all of you to know Sister Dusty’s a backslider. She ain’t showed up at the Church of Holiness for months now. We use to go out and catch snakes specially for her. And this is the thanks we get.

Tell that guy that asked, no beer sales on Sunday. It says somewhere in the Bible you can’t buy booze on Sunday and I believe it. If you are hard up just go to a neyber and buy a six-pack to tide you over. Anyway, I ain’t going to Hell just because you can’t get out and buy enough beer before Sunday comes.

By Dusty

December 20, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

Redneck dummy, I don’t “wallow,” in anything you are involved it. I wouldn’t put my cleanliness in jeopardy by getting that close to you. Besides I never leave Austell.

By Shark Sammich

December 20, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

RCH @ 10:58—if you have some actual issues being discussed by real people, that are in conflict with typical SFers, put ‘em out there.

If instead you’re going to rehash some faux-outrage about “docking a proud battle ship in order to make it a tribute to our sailors, not allowing the marines to film a segment on city streets,denying recruitment by the armed services at local high schools and colleges,and the list goes on…”, well, I’ll just suggest that these aren’t exactly kitchen-table topics where most people come from.

Honestly, I don’t even know what incidents you’re talking about, and I’d wager the vast majority of Americans don’t either.

By Shark Sammich

December 20, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

JBM @ 12:54, thanks for that—now it makes sense.

Camus @ 11:12, — do you mean that “immigrant bashing is [perceived as] a winner” — could you elaborate a bit?

I’m thinking you mean it would be a two pronged deal with Richardson as a VP:

1) draw fire from true knuckle-dragging racist types (your LouD obbs/Pat Pukecannon crowd) and throw it back at ‘em; and

2) round up a lot of stray Hispanic voters who’d cast a vote for Bush in ‘04

…or something else?

By Dusty Lament

December 20, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Oh, if only I had gone to Sex Education class in high school instead of bible study, I wouldn’t be living in this stupid single wide trailer with five filthy mouthed unwashed children by five different men, Praise Jesus.

By time to sneer mercilessly at should already be dead leftist scum

December 20, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

Honestly, I don’t even know what incidents you’re talking about,

THat’s because you’re a PIG IGNORANT leftist scumbag who anally refuses to acknowledge often treasonous unhinged liberal hate and bile against the military and the war on towel head terrorists.

and I’d wager the vast majority of Americans don’t either.*

I am well aware of this san fran sicko hate … its not “faux-outrage” either dickhead!!! Its wiful, gleeful and systematic. S F Sicko should be denied ALL federal funding until they stop their worthless pathetic hate America leftist commie empty gesture politicks!!

That’s what INEVITABLY comes from having a queer mincing poof dominated local council, AIDS infested bathhouses and far left cut and run yellowbellied nutters in the adulterous lying mayors office who pander to illegal greasy mexican type leeeches and free loading homeless tramps and whinos/druggies who get local Sicko raised tax payer money from lefty vermin who wanna feel good about NOT making such worthless losers actually indulge in ANY HINT of responsibility for their actions.

now GFY U sad wankpig!!!

By CANCER FACE MCCAIN SCANDAL

December 20, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

CANCER FACE MCCAIN SCANDAL

MEDIA FIREWORKS: MCCAIN PLEADS WITH NY TIMES TO SPIKE STORY Thu Dec 20 2007 10:56:57 ET

Just weeks away from a possible surprise victory in the primaries, Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz has been waging a ferocious behind the scenes battle with the NEW YORK TIMES, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, and has hired DC power lawyer Bob Bennett to mount a bold defense against charges of giving special treatment to a lobbyist!

McCain has personally pleaded with NY TIMES editor Bill Keller not to publish the high-impact report involving key telecom legislation before the Senate Commerce Committee, newsroom insiders tell the DRUDGE REPORT.

The paper’s Jim Rutenberg has been leading the investigation and is described as beyond frustrated with McCain’s aggressive and angry efforts to stop any and all publication.

MORE

The drama involves a woman lobbyist who may have helped to write key telecom legislation.

The woman in question has retained counsel and strongly denies receiving any special treatment from McCain.

Rutenberg, along with reporter David Kirkpatrick, has been developing the story for the last 6 weeks.

Rutenberg had hoped to break the story before the Christmas holiday, sources reveal, but editor Keller expressed serious reservations about journalism ethics and issuing a damaging story so close to an election.

McCain campaign officials Rick Davis, Charlie Black and Mark Salter are also said to have met with the NEW YORK TIMES in an effort to halt publication.

Developing…

By RCH

December 20, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Shark Sammich

That’s why you have individuals like myself that follows the news very carefully. The marine incident made national news.One of the San Francisco Assemblyman even made the comment that their is no need for the military. Maybe we should have let the Japanese invaded during WWII.LOL

By CANCER FACE MCCAIN SCANDAL

December 20, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Has cancer boy been porking a lobbiest?

By Shark Sammich

December 20, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

TTFT @ 1:53 thank you for proving my point so very, very eloquently.

By Jackie

December 20, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

The Repubs need something to beat on, therefore, they raise Cynthia McKinney on the guillotine of public display. Are there no issues they can discuss that have a positive impact on all of our lives. The discussion about the rape of New Orleans and the destruction of 22,000 housing units that WERE NOT DAMAGED IN THE KATRINA disaster. The tragedy of that situation is these folks were put out of the housing units and sent to far away places and are asking to come back to AFFORDABLE housing. Dubya is saying to them, “we are tearing down these units for your own good and building better and non-affordable units owned by the private sector that you can not afford and we will not subsidize.” There are clashes between the citizens of New Orleans and the police to day. We can subsidize housing and other functions in Iraq, but, we can not help citizens of our own country. When do we get rid of these criminals in the White House and the chicken-livered US Congress?

By time to sneer mercilessly at should already be dead leftist scum

December 20, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

@ have oral sex with a shark

thank you for proving my point so very, very eloquently.

entirely my pleasure you wank faced bollock chops!!!

human scum like U need to be exposed for the scabby lice U are!!!

… next!!!

By Jackie

December 20, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

Former Treasure Secretary and other Wall Street types said today, Dubya and the Federal Reserve are not recognizing the fact that “we are in a very critical financial situation and the chances of a prolonged Recession - akin to that of the 1970’s stagflation period and early 1980’s - are a very real and loom danger.” Our intellectual challenged Congress goes alongs with Dubya and gives Iraq another $70 Billion dollar SUPPLEMENT, in addition to the previous $140 Billion. What about the USA? Frog march these criminals and unelect the Congressional miscreants.

By time to sneer mercilessly at should already be dead leftist scum

December 20, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

@ cancer face feckwipe

I doubt he’s been porking the fat obese hateful shrill shrew still only just married to the adulterous slimy unctious suddenly far left luv child in Chapel Hill hypocrite edwards - even McCain has better taste than that!!!

By Camus

December 20, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

Shark -

I think the Richardson ethnicity cuts several ways. On the one hand, it would likely attract the Latino vote to any ticket he is on. This is good.

But my other point, so poorly expressed, is that there remains within the Dem party relics from the DLC that actually believes that the Dems can score points by bashing immigrants. These misguided folks still think that Dems can win by flanking the GOP on their right. (Akin to urging them to run on their own super-duper theological purity…it just does not pay off.)

The problem with this approach is two-fold. First, it is dis-spiriting to the core support of the Dems. Second, it acts to exclude a growing constituency of Latinos (of whom Richardson is an example). Given that the GOP has worked overtime to alienate this group (despite Rove’s attempts to the contrary), the DLC tack is doubly foolish.

My apologies for the incoherence here. My son is home from school for the day and he is anxiously awaiting our viewing of a Kurusawa samurai flick. My mind is on matters of greater import than politics.

Cheers!

By CANCER FACE MCCAIN SCANDAL

December 20, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

Richardson is one FAT wet back! As a raft, a whole village could sneak across the Rio Grande while riding his fat back.

By time to sneer mercilessly at should already be dead leftist scum

December 20, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Wackieturd

cheers for that freaking hilarious whining about the black criminal leeches in NOLA who are unable to stick their grasping snouts quite as deep in the public trough since Katrina wiped out their little hippety hop gangbanging gimme gimme fiefdom!!

mcKKKIney is a vile racist cop punching jewhatingblackbitch who should be silently consigned to the dustbin of history … which is essentially wot the lentil gobbling nutters of the worthless pathetic pot head pixie wankers in the irrelevant green party are - stinky human garbage that should have been recycled years ago!!! … huge I hate lefties smirk

By CANCER FACE MCCAIN SCANDAL

December 20, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

Calling Fat Boy Bob Bennett - Ah bet you one billion dollars Cancer boy is guilty….. Roll the dice, Fat Boy

By time to sneer mercilessly at perverted leftist scum

December 20, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

My son is home from school for the day and he is anxiously awaiting our viewing of a Kurusawa samurai flick.

FREAKING LIAR … you’re gonna subject him to Striptease and The Blue Lagoon again U sad far left lying pretentious pompous pervert!!!

By getalife

December 20, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

“Hillary turns to Jesus:

She quoted one of her favorite passages in Scripture — where it says in the Epistle of James that “faith without works is dead.” She spoke of “the sustaining power of prayer,” and how her own faith journey is approaching the half-century mark. She applauded the work of churches in ministering to the sick, as Jesus did.”

Amen †

By Craig

December 20, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Shark @ 1:37 - of course you’re correct. Most people don’t care because they’re busy living their life.

But sadly there are a few righties who spend their days listening to Faux, and Boortz, and Hannity, and Drudge, just looking for reasons to be outraged. And these “entertainers” of course, know that the more outraged they can keep their listeners, the more advertising they’ll sell.

By CANCER FACE MCCAIN SCANDAL

December 20, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

If I had a dog as ugly as hillarity the Clown and her double ugly feminazi girlfriends, I would shave my dog’s butt, and have him walk backwards, in the interests of protecting real women and small children from such a horrible site.

By Shark Sammich

December 20, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

Camus @ 2:21, my God, I hope that the Democrat Losership Council people who make this idiotic case you describe not only find themselves begging on the street after the primaries, but…

ok, it’s nearly Christmas, I won’t wish painful deaths on anyone. Not this week anyway.

By GayGreyGeek

December 20, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

What LimeForTheFruit doesn’t realize is that Atlanta has more bathhouses than SF, and has for over 20 years…

By CANCER FACE MCCAIN SCANDAL

December 20, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

GaybuttBoy: I had hoped aids would rid us of the bath house clowns. The cure for aids is the flame gun. Burn out the infection.

By jbmlaw

December 20, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this

Dear Camus @ 2:21, last Christmas the Ensign and I had our own Kurosawa festival at the house: “Seven Samurai,” “Rashomon,” “Hidden Fortress,” and “Yojimbo.” (We had enjoyed “Ran” a couple of years earlier, gave us an affection for his style.) Enjoy.

By time to sneer mercilessly at perverted leftist queeralicious scum

December 20, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

I had hoped aids would rid us of the bath house clowns. The cure for aids is the flame gun. Burn out the infection.

Easily the POST OF THE DAY - so far …

By jbmlaw

December 20, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Alas, my desire to be the father of Jamie Lynn Spears’ first child is not to be. Watching Zoey 101, as I do every day, it was obvious the budding starlet was barefoot and horny. But I moved too slowly in giving her the pro bono jbm treatment.

By G-Money

December 20, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

Sneering mercilessly?

9mm slugs and Ninth Ward drugs might make me a thug, but sneers will never harm me.

By CANCER FACE MCCAIN SCANDAL

December 20, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

jmblaw appears to be a child moleter: “Alas, my desire to be the father of Jamie Lynn Spears’ first child is not to be. Watching Zoey 101, as I do every day, it was obvious the budding starlet was barefoot and horny. But I moved too slowly in giving her the pro bono jbm treatment”

Pervert, someone call the FBI

By Glenn

December 20, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

tftt,

Given especially your gift for invective, I’d prefer that you not stray into ad hominem argument directed at me. I know that you don’t care what I choose to believe, and know also that you believe that I choose to believe it. Do I choose to “believe” that it is the wind which shakes the leaves?

You say that I agree, at inappropriate length, with most of what you wrote. I didn’t and don’t. Rather, I split what you’d written in response to Amvet’s and my debate into three parts delivered in three separate posts, the first listing the roughly one-third of your assertions with which I agree in whole or in part, the second listing the one-third which I find irrelevant and even spurious as challenges to my faith, and the remaining third, consisting of salient assertions which, if true, would shake Christian belief.

I don’t care to try to sound erudite, only to be clear and candid. And as I said at the outset, I matched my responses to your challenges, and answered in kind. What’s wrong with that?

Moreover, I at least attempted to make it clear that I don’t intend to convince you, much less would I presume to deal in “proof”. Rather, I was trying to converse with you, while remaining perfectly content to leave “proofs” to the materialists, to whom proofs belong. As I admitted, you rightly pegged my fideism, which I do not make the mistake of confusing with what today is called “spirituality”. I’m with the Englishman Hesketh Pearson, who in mid-century observed that “spiritualism is the mysticism of materialists”, an observation which goes a long way toward explaining the otherwise largely inexplicable phenomenon presently known as liberalism, no?

I can’t identify a single instance in which I was evasive. I disposed of everything I saw, and told you the extent of my thinking on each subject even where my thinking is admittedly deficient.

Your position seems to boil down to two attacks upon the Church, one of which I agree with and the other of which I find utterly fatuous. You point out that much, if not indeed most, of Christian dogma and tradition is based on propaganda promulgated by papist power maniacs. That’s essentially true, of course. It’s also true that there is an unbroken Christian tradition that runs counter to the party line; it is that tradition, and not the other, which is strewn with the broken and burnt bodies of perfectly sentient persons who in my opinion did not die for propaganda, lies, or power lust, but rather because they had the, to me, inconceivable courage to immitate their Lord, who demonstrated that to do so means that one cannot live on this Earth.

Which brings me to your second regulating assertion, that the Church is so derivative a paganistic hodgepodge that it cannot be of the Divine, to which it is attributed. Now, this assertion makes sense to you but not to me, an aspiring Christian, because first of all the word “Church” means different things to we two different people. You are speaking of the institutional Christian Church, the factual source of much of the fraud, hypocrisy, power-mongering and suffering which you decry. To me, of course, the “Church” refers to Christ’s Church, His body of believers, his hands and feet, which do His bidding pending His second embodiment.

The first “Church” is as unoriginal as you claim; the second, wholly original (and originary, but that’s another matter). Even so, originality is not what it seems. I’m sure you’ve noticed Jim Wooten’s knack for mistaking the bottle for its contents as he loses himself in the bottle of his metaphors. Yesterday, for example, we were treated to a program of governmental restructuring which dealt entirely with content, instead of structure.

The Easter of which jbm wrote is an Easter that is wholly original in seizing received structures, gutting them, and refilling them with received wisdom. The structures are the same, the content radically dissimilar. Consider Lenny Bruce’s cross, a torture device so radically transformed into a banner of victory that even that brilliant comedian could not construe its paradoxical meaning, though it be hidden in plain sight. Or take pagan blood sacrifice, reflected, in the story of the Naz’s last days, in the Temple doings, His gallows meal and His Passion.

Each of these three rituals of pagan origin is first closely observed according to received tradition, until Jesus reaches into each of them and turns it inside out. The resulting revelations in the final pages of this bestselling page-turner have been sure to keep readers up all night forever after, as they perpetually try and fail to put the Humpty-Dumpty of sacrificial religion back up atop a wall that no longer exists because the Wind of those revelations left not one stone of that wall standing upon another.

Unoriginal? You should be so unoriginal.

While you’re attempting uncharacteristic unoriginality, my wonderfully irreverent friend, please try to locate for me, if you haven’t already done, a pre-Christian pagan deity said to have suffered and died in my place such that I may, through forgiveness of my manifold sins, enjoy everlasting peace at the right hand of my Maker. Please do. And then I’ll reconsider my faith, instead of reconsidering Christopher Hitchens’ timeworn categorical errors.

And on Boxing Day a toast to Her Majesty the Head of the Church, please, and to all her exemplary Corgis. She’s a fine Christian, your Queen.

By CANCER FACE MCCAIN SCANDAL

December 20, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

Is Rudy being treated for Syphilis? In his mouth?

By Redneck Convert

December 20, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

Leastwise I know now what pro bono means.

By jbmlaw

December 20, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

Cancer face, the consummation would have taken place in Georgia where the age of consent is 16.

By Heywood Jablome

December 20, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

And so Glenn, who tried to engage tftt in a reasonable and honarable debate, learns an invlauable life lesson:

When you lie down with dogs, you ed up with fleas.

Or as my dear Dad used to say, “Roll in sh!t and the stink will always get on ya.”

By jbmlaw

December 20, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

This should be needless to say, but the previous two posts were not me. Happy Holidays to you, too, imposter.

By Tiny Darnell

December 20, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

It’s sad to see such a beautiful friendship in tatters. Maybe the two of them should go to tftt’s favorite bath house and listen to the music they both like.

By Dusty

December 20, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

Well, the day is cold and dark and dreary but Christmas cheer is never weary. And best wishes always to Jim, who keeps us interested and informed about the politics of the times. Ah,Jim, we never “cease fire” in politics and the fireworks continue, even on holidays.

But I stray from the subject to disagree with our venerable Captain Freedom. Of course there is a Santa Claus. Has the Captain forgotten that classic letter to Virginia, written during the Captain’s childhood in 1897? The words that “love, generosity and devotion exist” are forever heart warming. Editor Francis P. Church of the NY Sun wrote an unforgetable piece. Surely the AJC will remind us of such successful journalistm and write their own letter.

But let me congratulate RedNeck on winning the Best Decor Ward at the Chateau Elan trailer park. His plastic milk jug snowman with the beer bottle ears was a big hit. Everyone was amazed at the resemblance to RedNeck. Congrats again, fellow! I do love to hear about creativity at its best.

By Heywood Jablome

December 20, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

Dusty stands strong in her faith in imaginary Fat Man, alongside her other imaginary heroes and sky creatures.

Well, it’s like they say…Dopes spring eternal.

By Glenn

December 20, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

As for Rudy’s flu, I can’t think it will matter on election day (or even nomination day) if his bout with cancer already does not matter. His recent drop in the polls obviously has nothing to do with his health.

Having said that, I believe that Dusty’s right: voter’s should vet the health of the candidates, within accepted norms of privacy. They’ve been right in the past to have done so. They debated Reagan’s age, and thus his fitness for office, for a year before deciding, on balance, that it was not compelling. Colds and flus aside, the GOP candidates should be ranked partly in reference to the fact that three of them battle cancer.

It’s ruthless, of course, but then so are the Chinese.

By CANCER FACE MCCAIN SCANDAL

December 20, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw - Bringing a minor across state lines for the purpose of sex is a Federal crime. It is also most likely a State crime in her home state for you to have communicated your disires and made the travel arrangements. What kind of lawyer are your anyway? You never seem to be working, and you don’t seem to know much about some of the basic principles of law. Are your a FRAUD as well as a child molester?

By HIDT (Humble ID Thief)

December 20, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

In this case cancer face, yes, jbmlaw was a fraud in that it wasn’t him at all. However, had she initiated the liason and gotten herself to Georgia, then the fake jbmlaw would have been in the clear. As for you, maybe you can get the doctor to slip a sense of humor into your chemo pump.

By CANCER FACE MCCAIN SCANDAL

December 20, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Your (sic) right HIDT. I was just jealous because I wanted what the fake jbm had expressed.

By Heywood Jablome

December 20, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

Judging from her older sister’s taste in men, Redneck stands a pretty good chance with this Jamie Lynn girl. Hard to take the trailer out of those swamp girls. Trash is as trash does.

By Tiny Tim

December 20, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

I want to especially wish Dusty a Merry Christmas. I dont adore Dusty as much as I adore Midori, but I really really like the Duster. She rocks. There’s nothing like a playful mind to play with.

“Aw, that was sweet, Tiny Tim, I think you really feel the xmas spirit.”

f-f-f-f

“Dont say it, Tiny Tim, I’m warning you”.

ff-ff-f-f-ffff-ff-

By Captain Freedom

December 20, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

And so, THE Captain returns at day’s end to find the forum right back where it was at the beginning…obsessed with sex.

This is clearly the outcome of our turning a blind eye on the Oval Office pecadilloes of The Clenis, which has led to the breakdown of societal boundaries, directly leading to the phenoms of Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, and the panty-free Britney Spears. All this overt lubricity and moisture on display by these slatternly party girls (who seem to give it away to all takers, yessss) takes a toll on an aging Captain of Morality and True Belief, I must tell you. The old carpal tunnel is flaring up from the repeated repetitive motion, but THE Captain, brave Keyboard Kommando that He is, will soldier on. Perhaps He will master ambidextery in the New Year.

Well, first we suffered the Clenis, and I fear that soon we will re-live the horror and he11 of the 90s with an eight-year reign of castrating terror by the Clagina. We’ll be lucky if we don’t all end up like Vince Foster. It doesn’t take a dried up old prune like Dusty to recognize that we are far better off with the asexual Bushes — though some wags are likely to assert that any bush is inherently sexual. pay them no mind, you know what I mean. Just try to imagine Laura in the throes of uninhibited passion. Go on, I’ll wait.

Right, as I thought. Now, try to imagine Barbara the Elder making the double-backed beast. THAT will sure take the lead out of the old eberhard-faber!!!! A salutary tonic to the openly waggled pudendae of today’s young hussy starlets.

Merry Christmas, True Believers!!!!

By Tiny Tim

December 20, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this

Captain, you mentioned the Bush Twins, (paris and brittany). Perhaps mixing politics and sex should be as abhorent to all true patriots as mixing politics and religion, but nobody has ever been able to tear the two apart yet.

There’s a porn website that shows 20 year old chicks with Santa in various acts of sodomy. My wife caught me checking it out. Now all I want for xmas is my two front teeth.

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