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Hillary can’t beat Oprah
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Barack Obama may have The Bomb. And it’s not aboard the Enola Gay. It’s now aboard the Obama Express campaign for the Democratic Presidential nomination. Suddenly Hillary’s not looking invincible.
The secret weapon is, of course, Oprah, the nationally adored talk-show host. She attracted a crowd estimated at almost 30,000 Sunday in Columbia, S.C., after campaigning with him Saturday in Iowa. “There are those who say it’s not his time, that he should wait his turn,” she told the crowd in Columbia. “Think about where you’d be in your life if you’d waited when people told you to.”
She added, too, a line that could build some fire under his campaign and attract disgruntled Independents, and perhaps even some Republican women: “I’m sick of politics as usual.” Much of the nation is. But it’s quite a feat to get from that declaration to mobilizing the turned-off segment and delivering them to a specific candidate. But I’m not one to underestimate Oprah. Clinton and Obama are neck-and-neck in Iowa, and she’s up in the 5-10 percentage point range in New Hampshire and South Carolina. That’s within the Oprah impact zone.
The nomination’s still Hillary’s to lose. She can beat Obama. But she can’t beat Oprah.





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Comments
By Redneck Convert
December 10, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
Well, I can see right now these people getting shot at the churches in Colorado and the mall in Nebraska is going to be used by the libruls to try and take away my two machine guns and my antitank weapon from me, which I need for hunting and to perteck my property. Its as plain as the nose on your face they want to take away my Right to Bare Arms. So if you want to keep your bazooka or tank or machine pistol or any other weapon to use for self defense you better vote Republican every time you get a chance. What all these libruls don’t understand is guns don’t kill people, people kill people. If people go out and shoot people they need to get the Death Penalty. If they kill theirself after they shoot them we need to get them out of the undertakers place and fill their veins up with poison anyway. And do the same to their relatives too.
Anyhow, I don’t have time to watch this Oprah. I got beer to deliver when she’s on. And I wouldn’t watch her anyway because she’s one of Those People and so is this Osama guy she’s running around for like a cheap w**. A vote for Osama is a vote for our enemas. If he took one step into the White House me and my buddy Jim Earl and Joe Bill and everybody I know would be moving to another country. I knowed it was a big mistake to pass these civil rights laws and now you can see what its come to. I would have to hide my head in shame if one of Those People was elected President.
But I’m beginning to take a shine to the Rev. Huckabee. He shows a lot of sense by saying the gays with AIDS ought to be put in camps and took out of society. Far as I’m concerned he could take them all out. If they don’t have AIDS now they will have. Anyway, people are making a big to-do about him releasing that rapist that went out and killed and raped another woman. It was only one woman and they caught him before he could do more. And he might of raised some taxes in Arkansas but leastwise he’s a good Southren Baptist that won’t turn out to be no Jimmy Carter. He will get rid of abortion and all of these civil rights laws and appoint good conservatives to the courts to make the laws the way we want them.
Well, the Baptists done made a wreck out of all my bars yesterday so I got a heavy load to deliver today. Have a good day everybody.
By Dirtty
December 10, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this
You go Girl: The Obama-Oprah ticket is a sure winner.
By jbmlaw
December 10, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this
Merry Christmas all. We have previously discussed in this space “the significance of endorsements.” I remain unpersuaded that any endorsement – celebrity, newspaper, whatever – makes any meaningful difference in political campaigns. (I concede the likelihood that the sales of books are affected by Harpo’s review.) I think there are some of our friends on the left whose first question, on noticing any political or economic argument, is to examine the credentials of the arguer, rather than parsing the language of the argument; perhaps those few would be moved by Harpo’s blessing of OsamaObama late last week. If endorsement truly caused any effect, the past week’s presentation of my guy Fred by the WSJ editors (http://www.opinionjournal.com/jer/?id=110010971, for example) would have created an unstoppable groundswell for him. Does any single entity have greater respect on the right than the WSJ?
By jbmlaw
December 10, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this
Dear Redneck @ 8:55, at risk of noting the obvious, haven’t you already delivered a heavy load today?
By Glenn
December 10, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this
Well, Jim, as we speak I got The Great Man of Peace on the box, pontificating his superego out in front of Tipper and everybody, in this Scandinavian Holy of Holies adorned with important banners and pennants and various architectural mementi mori in noble stone. I’m holding vigil for Al’s sanity, waiting with the net in the wings for him to go over the top once and for all. The Norwegians should know better than to feed the bears. It’s cruel.
As to Hillary and the two O’s, it’s Oprah’s race to lose. Which is just what she may do.
That woman’s always been an expert “code switcher”, as phonologists call it, a linguistic amphibian capable of navigating various vernaculars in a single sentence. Hillary stinks at it, though she tries to get it right whenever she deigns to visit the boroughs.
But then there’s this. When Oprah endorsed Mr. Obama she got uncharacteristically tongue-tied. (And when Oprah gets tongue-tied, something’s up.) It’s no secret that she not only likes the handsome and nonchallant Junior Senator from Illinois, but also despises the Junior Senator from New York.
But that wasn’t it. Rather, she seemed authentically uncomfortable on the stump, muttering such phrases as “and so I’ve come today” (a whiff of Abernathy?) to say that “I’ve decided to make this decision because” (Yogi?) of the “need” (Dr. Phil?) to “take a stand” (Col. Travis?) on “where Barak stands, and I know that he stands” (presumably when he’s not sitting) for a stand on where we stand, etc.
Like I say, it’s Oprah’s to lose.
I’ll still take Rudy to win, and give you four points.
By Katie
December 10, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this
Oprah is a talk show host, that is ALL. She is not a politican, I don’t care how much $$ she has. I wish all hollywood actors and talk show hosts would keep their political view points to themselves. The rest of the world doesn’t give a hoot. She’s just using her ‘influence’ to change the minds of her idiotic followers. They may as well be sheep.
By Renee
December 10, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this
At this point, neither Obama (Oprah) or Clinton will get my vote! I want the best possible person - and I have not seen him/her so far.
I am a big Oprah watcher and I really enjoy her show. However, her persona on the campaign trail does not change my mind about Obama. In fact, any “celebrity” that stumps for a candidate just annoys me. I am NOT influenced by it at all and do not like “celebrities” in politics. If you want me to take you seriously, then have the guts to run yourself. I also think it makes the actual candidate, like Obama, look desperate and weak!
As for Hillary, I do not think she would make a suitable President. Her previous stint at the White House did not impress me. And FYI - 95% of the women I know have NO intentions on voting for her. The opinion is she would be bad for our country.
Please - give me someone else!
By Katie
December 10, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this
Oprah is a talk show host, that is ALL. She is not a politican, I don’t care how much $$ she has. I wish all hollywood actors and talk show hosts would keep their political view points to themselves. The rest of the world doesn’t give a hoot. She’s just using her ‘influence’ to change the minds of her idiotic followers. They may as well be sheep.
By Katie
December 10, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this
Oprah is a talk show host, that is ALL. She is not a politican, I don’t care how much $$ she has. I wish all hollywood actors and talk show hosts would keep their political view points to themselves. The rest of the world doesn’t give a hoot. She’s just using her ‘influence’ to change the minds of her idiotic followers. They may as well be sheep.
By Anonymous
December 10, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this
Make up your mind, Katie. If the rest of the world “doesn’t give a hoot” about what Oprah has to say, why are you so insistent that she shut up?
By Lisa Love
December 10, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this
It kills me how Republicans are always griping about celebs and their political views by saying stuff like “who cares what Hollywood thinks” and “those actors should keep their views to themselves”. Yet Republicans LOVE to elect actors to office (Reagan, F.Thompson, Arnold to name a few) and everytime I watch a Republican convention they trot out every celebrity they can find to give speeches and introduce politicians. Usually its pathetic B,C & D-listers like Rick Shroder and Bo Derek. I don’t think it so much that Republicans dislike Hollywood mixing with politics they are just jealous that the Democrats attract a lion’s share of the serious and current stars and they have to be content with Bo Derek and a bunch of redneck country singers. Snore!!
By Shark Sammich
December 10, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this
Katie gave us:
I wish all hollywood actors and talk show hosts would keep their political view points to themselves.
Zombie Ronald Reagan and Zombie Sonny Bono would like a word with you.
By Curious Observer
December 10, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this
Obama will have his moments, but the multi-state primaries in February and his failure to win a single Southern state will put an end to his candidacy. Huckabee, Romney, and Thompson will destroy one another, and McCain will emerge as the Republican nominee.
In the end, the candidates who pose the least threat to the machine will battle it out for the White House: McCain vs. Clinton. The evangelicals will grudgingly accept McCain like a dose of castor oil, and disaffected Obama supporters will be equally unenthusiastic about the outcome on the Democratic side.
All the rest is merely a side-show.
It always boils down to which candidate poses the least threat to the existing health care, pharmaceutical, and oil industries. They’re the ones with the money to buy TV ads and the services of the political advocacy groups.
By Shark Sammich
December 10, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
Jimbo gave us:
Suddenly Hillary’s not looking invincible.
The only people—I repeat, ONLY—who ever thought Hillary was inevitable, were right wing morons.
By Glenn
December 10, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
jbm, I’m interested in your taking an interesting interest (as Harpo might’ve said the other day) in whether and how the endorsement dynamic works on the psychology of the voter. Strikes me as a subtle, and perhaps subtly complex, phenomenon.
I’d like to mull it, but in the interest of brevity, for now I’ll just quip that you touchingly overestimate Mr. Barnum’s America, which is in fact hugger-mugger with heteronymous little Katie Courics, in search of the next object upon which they are told, by dint of the similarly inauthentic desires of others, to attach their own free-floating desire-in-search-of-an-object. This mimetic phenomenon is quite well known, e.g. to psychologists, pedagogues, pollsters, marketers, theologians, electoral slate consultants, and Political “Ignorance Is Briss” Foreskin. It’s as unsurprising as the result of introducing identical toys to identical infants at play after conspicuously favoring one of the toys. (A hoary experiment that no longer rates so much as an Honorable Mention at the Seventh Grade Science Fair.)
In Jamaica they didn’t even go to polls until Bob Marley told them wheter and on whose behalf.
By One
December 10, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
NOPE!!! She can’t beat Oprah!!! Obama in ‘08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By kat
December 10, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
what katie said is not hard to understand. i don’t give a hoot what oprah says either (and i am a former die hard oprah fan) but i too wish she would shut up about certain things because i get sick of hearing her self important platforming.
By Mike
December 10, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Oprah better watch out. If she helps Obama beat Hillary, the Clinton destruction machine will put her in the cross hairs of their vast network of their well connected chronies.
By Lisa Love
December 10, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this
Why do conservatives always want those who they disagree with to “shut up”. I don’t like Rush Limbaugh or O’Reilly or even the views of Patricia Heaton (another actress who likes to go on and on about her beliefs) but I simply tune them out when they are saying crapola I don’t like. I would never tell them they can’t speak and air their opinions. If you don’t like what Oprah has to say then don’t listen. Don’t watch her show. It’s that simple. Why she should ever have to “shut up” because some self-centered conservative doesn’t agree with her is ridiculous. The obvious answer is you want her to shut up because you fear her. If you really thought no one was listening you wouldn’t care!
By anonymous
December 10, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw@9:03am: “OsamaObama”
Come on man, that type of jab is really beneath you. Disagree with his political views if you want. Disagree with bringing Ms. Winfrey in to campaign. But to slip in that “subtle” reference is really childish on your part. I guess you called kids names in the schoolyard?
By Shar
December 10, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
Good Morning. Jbmlaw, I’d have to disagree with you (surprise!) about the importance of endorsements. Word of mouth from a trusted source is the most effective means of advertising, the gold standard of persuasion, difficult to acquire and even more so to overcome. How many of us rush out to a movie that our friends tell us is terrible, or book a vacation at some sun-drenched paradise where family members previously had a bad time?
The tricky part, of course, is “trusted source.” One might trust someone for advice on one topic while judging them less than partial or credible on another. Your beloved WSJ, for example, having been bought by the infamous Mr. Murdoch, may not in fact be as credible a source “on the right” (or left, for that matter) as you believe. Competant and knowledgable reportage on business issues, but their editorial pronouncements have yet to prove independent of Mr. Murdoch’s idiosyncrasies. I listen with respect and affection to my mother-in-law’s thoughts on coconut cake and Democrats, but there’s only one of those topics where I’m likely to act on her advice.
I have never seen Ms. Winfrey’s show, but my understanding is that she is particularly adept at ‘relationship’ discussions - how and why people interact as they do, how they can do better for themselves and the world. Her Book Club is highly influential, although I read somewhere that her recommendations have the most effect on books dealing with those sorts of ‘relationship’ motifs, and her thoughts on, say, thrillers are not as motivating. There will be some in her audience who identify so strongly with her that any endorsement of hers is sufficient for them to act, but they are a minority. Ms. Winfrey’s support of Mr. Obama, like the evangelical community’s support of Mr. Huckabee in Iowa, will be most influential in generating publicity and encouraging voters to seriously consider a candidate they may have brushed aside previously. It is also, as seen in Mr. Huckabee’s case, focus attention on issues that the candidate would just as soon not be examined too closely, or overemphasize one area of a more nuanced appeal to voters.
All in all, Ms. Winfrey’s support is likely to help Mr. Obama, but it is also likely to be a mixed blessing.
By Sherlon Honea
December 10, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this
I SAY — GO JOHN EDWARDS - YOU’RE TOO CLASSY TO GET INVOLVED IN ALL THIS RIFF-RAFF, AND I THINK YOU ARE THE MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE OUT THERE AMONGST THE TOO LONG LIST.
By itsme
December 10, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Surely the people of this country are smart enough to research candidates on their own. Voting for someone based on the endorsement of a person known only via the television is nuts.
By Lily Toad
December 10, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this
Prediction: Obama runs with Oprah as running mate and wins in a landslide. Obama is assassinated by some redneck and Oprah becomes our first female president, then dictator, telling us what book to read, making us reunite with our estranged relatives, and putting everyone on Slim Fast. Dr. Phil will be Secretary of State, staging teary confrontations between terrorists and government leaders. Suze Orman will be Secretary of the Treasury, mandating we save 20% of our salaries in securities of her choice.
By itsme
December 10, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this
Does it bother any of you that Obama refuses to say the Pledge of Allegiance or sing the National Anthem?
By sick of oprahbama
December 10, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this
A MUST READ FOR ANY OPRAHBAMA groupie http://www.obamatruth.org/
LOOKS LIKE OPRAH AND OBAMA SWITCHED PLACES, OPRAHS NOW RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT? AND OBAMA IS HER CAMPAIGNE FLUNKIE? Go Oprah! We ALL know if anyone can’t take the attention off of obama’s no experience lack of leadership, refusing to show up and vote in the senate on Iran, Abortion measures etc… Seeking a trillion-dollar tax hike and raising the retirement age for Social Security!!!! Is not in favor of a health care plan to cover all children rich or poor and that he cannot make a decision on his own. You can….YOU have disgraced American woman, now as a last ditch effort you throw Dr Kings name at the black voters, now American knows where you stand on race…
SHAMEFUL ACT…I SUGGEST WE ALL TUNE OUT BOTH!!!
WAKE UP AMERICA! Its time we stop playing with Oprah and elect a QUALIFIED PRESIDENT!!! not just a man because he’s black and oprah says so, she may know soap and books, but why in he world would anyone jeopardize your future because a TV talk show host said so?… This weekends Oprah circus, will not help obama, its make us all realize Oprahs running the show not obama…Our great country needs a qualified leader, maybe if oprah was legally running, but obama is…. Glad the dog and pony show is over
Oprah is a shame to her gender, yes the same gender that made her who she is today and she turns her back on them in a second when race is involved…
I think its time WE ALL tune out the oprahbama show, and let’s elect a REAL Presidential candidate like CLINTON!
By sick of oprahbama
December 10, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this
A MUST READ FOR ANY OPRAHBAMA groupie http://www.obamatruth.org/
LOOKS LIKE OPRAH AND OBAMA SWITCHED PLACES, OPRAHS NOW RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT? AND OBAMA IS HER CAMPAIGNE FLUNKIE? Go Oprah! We ALL know if anyone can’t take the attention off of obama’s no experience lack of leadership, refusing to show up and vote in the senate on Iran, Abortion measures etc… Seeking a trillion-dollar tax hike and raising the retirement age for Social Security!!!! Is not in favor of a health care plan to cover all children rich or poor and that he cannot make a decision on his own. You can….YOU have disgraced American woman, now as a last ditch effort you throw Dr Kings name at the black voters, now American knows where you stand on race…
SHAMEFUL ACT…I SUGGEST WE ALL TUNE OUT BOTH!!!
WAKE UP AMERICA! Its time we stop playing with Oprah and elect a QUALIFIED PRESIDENT!!! not just a man because he’s black and oprah says so, she may know soap and books, but why in he world would anyone jeopardize your future because a TV talk show host said so?… This weekends Oprah circus, will not help obama, its make us all realize Oprahs running the show not obama…Our great country needs a qualified leader, maybe if oprah was legally running, but obama is…. Glad the dog and pony show is over
Oprah is a shame to her gender, yes the same gender that made her who she is today and she turns her back on them in a second when race is involved…
I think its time WE ALL tune out the oprahbama show, and let’s elect a REAL Presidential candidate like CLINTON!
By Shark Sammich
December 10, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this
anon wrote:
jbmlaw@9:03am: “OsamaObama” Come on man, that type of jab is really beneath you.
Huh? It is?
Seems par for the course to me. Republicans have been told to push the moronic idea that a man who’s been with the same Christian church for 18 years is some kind of crypto-Muslim, so they do.
JBM may be slightly better-spoken than some of the lizard-brains around here, but at the end of the day, if he thinks it’s effective to call Obama not just a Muslim (as if that were an insult… in this case, it’s merely incorrect), but actually liken him to a fundamentalist, violent Muslim, JBM’ll do it.
By Dennis
December 10, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten quotes Oprah as saying, “I’m sick of politics as usual.” and then adds his own comment, “Much of the nation is.”
Judging from his support for the Bush administration, Mr. Wooten isn’t tired of “politics as usual” one bit.
Mr. Wooten has supported the Bush administrations positions in attacking Iraq without provacation, unnecessary big tax breaks for corporations and the already wealthy, the failed policies of “No Child Left Behind, and so on.
Yes, Mr. Wooten, we all see where the Bush administration has brought this country, and, without going into a lot of detail that everyone, including yourself, already knows, it ain’t good.
The will of the American government and the will of the American people are not one and the same.
Not all of us, Mr. Wooten, are members of the “bewildered herd”.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By sick of oprahbama
December 10, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this
Media Won’t Say: Obama’s Hypocrisy and Lust for Personal Wealth
The bias media won’t tell you. U.S. Senator Barack Obama is under fire investigative video hit the internet. The video explores how Barack and Michelle Obama-the Senator’s wife-are cashing in on the Senator’s fame, reaping in hundreds of thousands of dollars while cashing in on a million-dollar mansion with the help of a now-indicted political hack.
But the bias media won’t tell you.
Ask Joe Novak, a veteran Chicago political operative and former Chief of Staff of a Democratic Congressman. “Ten years ago, you could call any reporter in Chicago and give them a legitimate story and they’d run with it,” Novak says. “Now, today, the candy-coated ’reporters’ have turned Barack Obama into the infallible and patron saint of Illinois politics and won’t say a word about his hypocrisy and lust for personal wealth. I felt it was time to expose the truth.”
So Novak put together a high quality video and posted it on his website www.obamatruth.org and the video download site of www.youtube.com.
After viewing the video, some will think OBAMA is an acronym for Overly Bothersome Aggressive Money Appetite. The video includes information on
” How the Senator’s wife received an unusual and extremely generous salary increase from a hospital that seeks to protect its not-for-profit status, shortly after her husband was sworn in as a U.S. Senator.
” How the abuses of the not-for-profit hospital where Michelle Obama works directly contradict the Senator’s oft stated promise of making health care more affordable.
” How by working with a political fixer who at the time was the public target of a U.S. Justice Department investigation (the political fixer was later indicted), Senator Obama was able to save money when buying his new mansion.
” How Senator Obama, who had addressed a union group that is outspoken in their opposition to Wal-Mart (especially the compensation of the CEO of Wal-Mart), failed to tell the group about the compensation of the CEO of the company where his wife sits as a member of the Board of Directors-an amount more than double the compensation for the Wal-Mart executive, for a company whose revenues are 400 times less.
” How the company his wife sits on the board of directors closed a plant staffed mainly by low-paid Hispanics in Colorado.
The bias media won’t tell you so visit the website www.obamatruth.org where more information on these and other issues concerning Obama’s lust for wealth can be found, including interviews with people affected by the plant closing in Colorado.
K.B. Forbes, former Traveling Press Secretary to Steve Forbes, and Communications Director to Pat Buchanan and Bill Simon
By Molly
December 10, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this
Poor us. We’ve got another Year of this to go. I’m more interested in the judicial races because now people can really impact those races. See http://www.usajudges.com/about.asp
By BS Aplenty
December 10, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this
Code Talkin’ - Oprah Style
A somewhat indiscreet meeting of Oprah Winfrey & Barack Obama at a Sonny’s Bar-b-que in South Carolina
Oprah: (with a sauce mustache goin’ on) Barack, honey, I do believe you’re the “O”-candidate for this girls democratic party (munch, munch…).
Barack: Indeed, I’m sure…
Waitress: (interrupts) Mo’ sauce m’am or would you like to wear a quart home?
O: (dismissively) Go get your own white man,…and I’ll take a quart to go. (wipes away sauce ‘stache)
B: (motioning to his lip) Uh, “O”, you missed a spot…
O: (licking lips) Barack, you know Stedman’s been outta the picture for a while and my “O’s” not gettin’ the kind of play, er, I mean circulation I’d like (knowing look)
B: What about Dr. Phil helpin’ with an investigative piece at “O” - would that help your circulation?
O: Naw, I don’t dig girls, and that “bald is beautiful” thing’s way overworked…
B: How’s your ribs?
O: Oh, I’m very ticklish there…
B: Huh?…
By Adam
December 10, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw @9:03 I remain unpersuaded that any endorsement – celebrity, newspaper, whatever – makes any meaningful difference in political campaigns. As in all rules, there are exceptions and I think this instance is indeed an exception. I do agree that in general elections the rule certainly applies. But given the target market here, the emotion driven, logic deprived undecided democrat, in a primary race, it is a big factor.
The democratic primary is a gushing emotional appeal full of nonsense to begin with. All sorts of pleas of “hope”, “nurturing”, “care”, “sensitivity”, on and on. No policy debates, just tugging at the heartstrings to win the democratic lovefest. General election is another race and another day. All said, what better emotional appeal than Queen Oprah to turn the tide. She will make a huge difference and give the undecided the “hope, courage, and determination to make a difference.” Its what the dems thrive on.
Additionally, with friends like Andy Young helping Hillary who needs enemies? This dolt yet again puts his foot squarely in his mouth by somehow trying to say “Vote for Hillary because her husband has been with more black women than her opponent.” Brilliant point Andy!
By Tray
December 10, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this
Plain and simple, I don’t care who supports Obama-If the man refuses to say the pledge of allegiance, I WILL NEVER VOTE HIM PRESIDENT!!!
How can you even say you love this country and then refuse to say the pledge?? It’s ridiculous! And don’t give me this BS about not saying it because it has the word ‘God’ in it. JUST DON’T SAY THAT WORD.
Also, since when did Oprah’s opinion really matter?? The only reason she’s supporting him is he’s the first person of color to run for president! It could’ve been George Forman running and Oprah would have supported him!
By Renee
December 10, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
What makes you think I am a Democrat? I voted once for Bill Clinton and once for George Bush. I think we’ve all made mistakes and were trying to learn from them (at least that is what I hope).
It scares me to think that our country is so screwed up that we are willing to accept Hillary Clinton as our next President. The only reason she is still married to Bill Clinton is so she can be in the position she is in today. They are a package deal - and we don’t need that “duo” again!
Obama is just another John Edwards - she will never have what it takes. He is already falling into this celebrity trap - which (trust me) will backfire!! Too soon - he is weak. I personally think Andrew Young’s stupid remarks have a hint of truth (but honestly - does anyone know when to keep their mouth shut anymore?)
By anonymous
December 10, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
Tray, Senator Obama is not the first person of color to run for president. Remember Jesse Jackson, Carole Mosely Braun, Al Sharpton?
By Motive, anyone?
December 10, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this
The Repubs would just LUUUUUUV to run against Obama, wouldn’t they, Mr. Wooten? Y’all will do everything we can to ensure Obama gets the nomination, so you can turn around and lie about him being a Muslim, and (ala Fox “news”), misspell his name “Osama” and remind everyone daily that he has a Muslim-sounding name and that his Daddy was African. That would be so much more FUN than having egg all over your face when Hillary spits those lies right back atcha!! She’s no John Kerry, you know, which is why you’d much rather be a-swift-boatin’ Obama than Clinton next year!! Tru dat!
By Tray
December 10, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this
Tes, anonymous, you’re right, let me re-phrase that…
Obama is the first person of color to run for president that ACTUALLY MATTERS! There, is that better?
Now I don’t recall the name Braun…
But really-Jackson, Sharpton?? That’s a joke that they would actually even get votes, right? They’re just media hogs anyways…
By jbmlaw
December 10, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this
Dear Lisa @ 9:44, you may be right – I have to admit that I thoroughly enjoyed “Team America.”
Dear Glenn @ 9:51, while I do not deny the phenomena you describe, I think that works more to explain why pre-election polls always overstate numbers for an obviously inferior democrat (redundancy?) candidate. Those votes, who otherwise lack sense to get out of the rain, usually do not emerge from the drug-haze to wander into a polling place.
Dear Anonymous @ 10:09, surely you appreciate that my dig is not aimed at Obama, whom I believe is the brightest leftist on the scene today. I am mocking an old drunk.
Dear Shar @ 10:09, I continue to disagree. I know for me, the WSJ is impressive, not because of who they are, but because of the arguments they provide on a daily basis. (A striking example of an unpersuasive argument in WSJ, for me, would have to go back 20 years, to a time when the late Jude Wanniski, aka the Goldbug, was a regular contributor to the editorial page. While you may be correct, in part, regarding WSJ – that some are persuaded only because it is the WSJ saying it, and will be disenchanted by the Murdoch empire - that could only be true in the future tense, as Mr. Murdoch does not yet exercise any control (think that will occur Jan 1.) I don’t think there are too many WSJ fans who reject Fox Network as a news source; now, WSJ fans who are also fans of CNN (perhaps such as our old friend Southern Democrat), those are the rarity. I really doubt there are too many captains of industry whose opinions are provided them by the WSJ, and unfortunately there are not too many (in terms of potential votes) powerless pretenders, such as your humble correspondent, who otherwise turn to the pages of the WSJ on a daily basis. Re: Mr. Huckabee, I doubt that there is any meaningful evangelical endorsement, otherwise Pat Robertson would have won a primary or two 20 years ago. I perceive Mr. Huckabee’s appeal is ephemeral, as you suggest, he made good first-impression with humor, albeit one misreading his character. Excellent argument, my compliments.
By ####
December 10, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this
Renne, you have absolutely no idea why Bill and Hillary Clinton remained in their marriage. Could it be for political gain? Sure! Could it be because they love one another? Yep! In the end, it is none of our business. Vote for her if you think she will make a good President, or vote for someone else if you think they will make a good President, but please stop contributing to this endless attack on their private lives.
By andrea
December 10, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this
Does Oprah think that because of the so called “O” factor, that I am going to vote for Obama? So many people make out Oprah to be a God, that whatever she says, goes. That if she endorses something or someone, then it is must be right. When all is said and done, I am still going to vote my conscious, and I assure people that it is not saturated with what Oprah says or thinks. Just my humble opinion to which I am entitled.
By Political Foreskin
December 10, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
Oprah can really give a speech! Her delivery is only going to get better, and the camera loves her.
Oprah + Obama = MLK squared.
Real change is coming.
By Heywood Jablome
December 10, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
Tray,
What are you, 9 years old? The pledge of allegiance is some sort of standard test? That ridiculous little game of stand and murmur played by grade schoolers everywhere means NOTHING. You might as well judge a candidate on how loudly s/he sings the national anthem, out of tune, at a baseball game.
God, you wingnuts have tiny little brains. Pathetically shallow, just like the gene pool that spawned you.
— Heywood Jablome
By Capt
December 10, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
Who gives a rats A** about any of them. They are all the same….all politician and no patriots.
By Gary
December 10, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this
Can obama really win the south? i understand that we do need a dem. in the white house. but the big question is can he really win the south because if he gets the nomintion but loses to some dip republican this county will really start to fall. i think hillary can beat Oprah, i have always loved to watch her. BUT NOT ANYMORE SHE MADE HER CHOICE AND NOW I’VE MADE MINE
By jbmlaw
December 10, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this
Dear Shark @ 10:27, you credit me with more planning than I can claim as true, but I’ll take it.
Dear Dennis @ 10:31, I think you just confuse me. Do you think Harpo helps or hurts OsamaObama?
Dear Soo @ 10:30, is there anything you wrote that would not be even truer of Hildebeest or the baby-channeling f*?
Dear BS @ 10:42, funny stuff.
By Vee
December 10, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this
Anonymous, Shirley Chisolm was the first black person to run for president—not Jesse Jackson. You’re probably too young to remember that. Actually, I’m too young to remember, too, because she ran in 1972. I was a baby then. ;-)
For the ones who think that celebrities should remain quiet in politics: Why should they remain quiet? Don’t they have the same rights that non-celebrities have?
By Vee
December 10, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this
Anonymous, Shirley Chisolm was the first black person to run for president—not Jesse Jackson. You’re probably too young to remember that. Actually, I’m too young to remember, too, because she ran in 1972. I was a baby then. ;-)
For the ones who think that celebrities should remain quiet in politics: Why should they remain quiet? Don’t they have the same rights that non-celebrities have?
By Tom
December 10, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
Heywood, have you forgotten that the Pledge of Allegiance is not only straight out of the Bible (in the same passage where Jebus says “God bless America”), it was also written by our God-fearing Founding Fathers into both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution (in the part which declares the USA a Christian nation, forever and ever, amen)?
By Vee
December 10, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
Anonymous, Shirley Chisolm was the first black person to run for president—not Jesse Jackson. You’re probably too young to remember that. Actually, I’m too young to remember, too, because she ran in 1972. I was a baby then. ;-)
For the ones who think that celebrities should remain quiet in politics: Why should they remain quiet? Don’t they have the same rights that non-celebrities have?
By anonymous
December 10, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
Tray, Carole Mosely Braun was a U.S. Senator from Illinois (1993-1999), the first black woman elected to the U.S. Senate, and a Presidential candiate in the 2004 election (although she never stood a chance).
By Dean
December 10, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
Dirtty: Your racist, ignorant comments in this post are deplorable. Obviously, you failed all of your English classes.
To quote you, “I would have to hide my head in shame if one of Those People was elected President”. Well, guess what Mr. Dirtty, you should hide your head in shame anyway. Anyone who thinks, writes, and acts like you should already be ashamed of himself.
The beer must have killed quite a few of your brain cells (if there were any to begin with).
By andrea
December 10, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this
Does Oprah think that because of the “O” factor that I am going to vote for Obama? Many people make Oprah out to be a God or something. That if she endorses someone or something, that it is right. The “well, if Oprah says it, it must me so mentality”. When all is said and done, I am going to vote my conscious and I assure her it is not saturated with what Oprah says or thinks. She is not infallible. She is a celebrity. Just my humble opinion.
By Iron Mike
December 10, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this
Osama Obama?
Ted Kennedy, (D-Massachusetts), referred to Obama as “Osama Obama”.
But most everyone knew that, except those who have a chip on their shoulder wanting to take umbrage at every utterance a conservative makes.
Here’s the video of the Senate’s Best Automobile Driver making the “Osama Obama” comment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APx2YJ-_jos
By andrea
December 10, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
Does Oprah think that because of the “O” factor that I am going to vote for Obama? Many people make Oprah out to be a God or something. That if she endorses someone or something, that it is right. The “well, if Oprah says it, it must me so mentality”. When all is said and done, I am going to vote my conscious and I assure her it is not saturated with what Oprah says or thinks. She is not infallible. She is a celebrity. Just my humble opinion.
By MELO
December 10, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
If endorsement truly caused any effect, the past week’s presentation of my guy Fred by the WSJ editors (http://www.opinionjournal.com/jer/?id=110010971, for example) would have created an unstoppable groundswell for him What percentage of the popn, even the Rupublican one at that, reads the WSJ?I think they are so miniscule to make any dent in the Iowa on NH polls, dont u think jbmlAt 1.50 tp 1.75 a pop, that is enough money for 1/2 ur lunch for most folks.
By anonymous
December 10, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
No, Iron Mike, I did not know that Senator Kennedy had said “OsamaObama” but thanks for enlightening us. However, it is just as offensive when said by a liberal as when said by a conservative.
By liberalextremist
December 10, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
Tray @ 10:44; That is an untruth that was told about Mr. Obama. Conservatives can choose to be mean and hateful, but please don’t lie. Even the AJC addressed this last week in their Q&A column. Mr. Obama did not refuse to recite the Pledge of Allegiance. He did not hold his hand over his heart when it came to singing the Star Bangled Banner. He was taught the correct was by his “White” grandfather. That is the truth. Learn the facts, Tray before you begin to spread your evil lies.
Please examine this link for the truth.
By Granitedawg
December 10, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
Suppose that Obama was white. Where would Oprah stand?
By Van
December 10, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this
Granitedawg,
I do not know, ask his white mother.
By Iron Mike
December 10, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this
Regarding Obama’s longstanding church membership, the Illinois senator belongs to a black separatist church.
Fair-minded people would reject a white presidential candidate who joined an analogous white separatist church. But in the era of reverse racism (or, more accurately, “racism”), Obama is given a pass.
Question: Would a U.S. senator who espouses a separatist religious philosophy shed his long-held beliefs if elected president in order to be the president of all people?
http://mediamatters.org/items/200702090009 http://righttruth.typepad.com/righttruth/2007/02/whatobamas_chu.html
By Lisa Love
December 10, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
No Dem can win in the South. The South has gone totally Republican thereby marginalizing itself once again. However, a Dem can win without winning a single Southern state. As a Democrat, I like ALL the potential nominees in the Republican party. We can beat them all. However, I must admit I love the idea of them nominating that NUTCASE Huckabee. That would be lots of fun. Giuliani, too. They are all a pretty sorry bunch and either Hillary Clinton or Obama will have no trouble beating them. My prediction is whoever the GOP nominee is, he will win the South, Utah and Oklahoma and probably Wyoming. Everything else will pretty much go Dem. It’s gonna be great! Also we will increase our seats in the House and Senate. As a party they will pretty much be a marginal element relegated to the Bible belt and the militia states. Everyone else, who is sane and not eaten up with crazy religion-itis will move away from them. It is already happening and they bloody well know it.
By Tray
December 10, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
HEYWOOD,
Guess what-THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE MEANS A LOT TO ‘REAL AMERICANS’, NOT JUST A DIM-WIT LIKE YOURSELF LIVING UNDER A BLANKET OF FREEDOM THAT MYSELF AND PEOPLE IN MY FAMILY HAVE PROVIDED FOR YOU FOR YEARS!!
That said- I have no problem with anyone’s religion, and I truly believe it’s possible for a person of any denomination to be our president. However, if you can’t be patriotic enough to put your hand on your heart and say it, how can you say you love the country you want to run? There are hundreds of people i severed with who worship different Dieties (look it up if you don’t know that word), they still said the pledge, and skipped the word God. You know what? I’m fine with that! Even though this nation was founded on God and Christian principles, we open our doors to everyone, no matter the denomination.
Now, if you love this country, pledge your allgiance to it! Not to God, Allah, Buddah, but to the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Oh, and if it were so childish and stupid to say the pledge, then why do they start off a lot of government events with it??? Shows you haven’t payed much attention…or did you immigrate to this country you do love?
By Shark Sammich
December 10, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
GraniteDouche axed:
Suppose that Obama was white. Where would Oprah stand?
Suppose anyone cared.
By Margaret Balistrere
December 10, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
Now who would want someone like obama who knows nothing about foreign affairs and not putting his hand over his heart when playing the alliegence—-only oprah! You would think she would like a woman like herself to make history in having a woman president. Goes to show ya—is someone playing the race card! I lost all respect for her—GO HILLAY!!!!!
By Margaret Balistrere
December 10, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
Now who would want someone like obama who knows nothing about foreign affairs and not putting his hand over his heart when playing the alliegence—-only oprah! You would think she would like a woman like herself to make history in having a woman president. Goes to show ya—is someone playing the race card! I lost all respect for her—GO HILLAY!!!!!
By JustMe
December 10, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
I have one question for Oprah (that is, if she answer honestly)…
Would she be so enchanted with Obama and do all that she is doing if he was Caucasion?
I fear that the answer would be ‘no.’ It seems that the main reason she is so much behind him is simply because he is black. That is sad.
By Margaret Balistrere
December 10, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this
Now who would want someone like obama who knows nothing about foreign affairs and not putting his hand over his heart when playing the alliegence—-only oprah! You would think she would like a woman like herself to make history in having a woman president. Goes to show ya—is someone playing the race card! I lost all respect for her—GO HILLARY!!!!!
By Shark Sammich
December 10, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this
Wow—today we’ve got the “Obama beez Mooslim,” the “Obama iz a member of a Black Separatist Cult-Church”, AND the “Obama won’t say the Pledge” lies working in tandem.
Nice crowd you’ve got here, Jim.
Oh, and for you lizard brains? I’m fine with either Hillary or Obama as Pres. In the former case, I get to shove your sexism up your @ss. in the latter, your racism. Either’s cool; I’ll enjoy watching your blood boil for another 4-8 years, minimum.
By TW
December 10, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
A year out from the election, this is the best Thinking Right could do?
The Republican Party is officially dead - even Mr. Wooten has cut and run.
By JustMe
December 10, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
I have one question for Oprah (that is, if she answer honestly)…
Would she be so enchanted with Obama and do all that she is doing if he was Caucasion?
I fear that the answer would be ‘no.’ It seems that the main reason she is so much behind him is simply because he is black. That is sad.
By JustMe
December 10, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this
I have one question for Oprah (that is, if she answer honestly)…
Would she be so enchanted with Obama and do all that she is doing if he was Caucasion?
I fear that the answer would be ‘no.’ It seems that the main reason she is so much behind him is simply because he is black. That is sad.
By Heywood Jablome
December 10, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this
Tray,
And here I thought all this freedom was granted by God. That’s what the wingnuts keep saying.
You are a useful idiot if you judge people by whether they pldge or not. It means about as much as those nitwit lapel flags that all the politicians feel they have to wear. It proves their patriotism, eh? My guess is that all the current crop of prison-bound GOPers (and that thief Jefferson from NOLA) proudly wore their pin and said the pledge louder than anyone all the while they were stealing from their country.
Hell, Dubya stood before the nation and placed his hand on a bible when he promised to protect and uphold the Constitution. Yet he has systematically worked to undermine its contents. Promises and pledges mean nothing, fool. Actions are what count.
You’re a tool, Tray, a man who responds to cheapjack symbolism the way a dog drools over a pork chop. Try to use some reason and not be such a predicatable machine.
By Iron Mike
December 10, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
Another question I pose: Are African-Americans supporting Senator Obama in spite of his black separatist outlook or because of it?
By Tray
December 10, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
Sorry to all, but as an ex-FIRM supporter of Obama, I was there…You have the wrong information, and the link you have was created to try to off-set this.
I have family in Iowa, I went to it to support him because I belive in 3 things-1) Bush needs to get out. 2) It’s time the US had either a Black/Female president, the recent pools of white males haven’t done too well…and 3) If I had to pick a female president, it CERTAINLY would not be Hillary.
I supported Obama for a long time, since i heard he was running and looked up a lot of what he stood for. But this, he lost me and my entire family’s vote…sorry.
FYI the link provided by liberalextremist is a cover up-ask anyone who was actually there (PS never received an e-mail on this as i choose friends who don’t pass on BS spam)
By Shark Sammich
December 10, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this
Jim, wouldn’t it be more accurate to change your blog’s title to “Thinking White?”
By liberalextremist
December 10, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this
Anyway, it appears that you white people get all in a tizzy when African-Americans choose to stick together and support each other. Why is that when you all have done it, and continue to do it? Now that’s sad. After all, I thought this WAS a free country and people could make decisions as they see fit, what’s in their best interest. I guess not when it comes to YOU PEOPLE or THOSE PEOPLE.
By liberalextremist
December 10, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this
Anyway, it appears that you white people get all in a tizzy when African-Americans choose to stick together and support each other. Why is that when you all have done it, and continue to do it? Now that’s sad. After all, I thought this WAS a free country and people could make decisions as they see fit, what’s in their best interest. I guess not when it comes to YOU PEOPLE or THOSE PEOPLE.
By Iron Mike
December 10, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
Oprah has a history of making comments that fair-minded people consider repugnant.
On her XM radio show she spoke with mocking pride of turning the tables on “white folk” by having many of them work for her. http://www.aolcdn.com/tmzaudio/0925oprah_radio.mp3
She and Obama see eye-to-eye on things and will energize his supporters.
In 2007, shouldn’t we be better than this?
By Tray
December 10, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
HEY EVERYBODY— HEYWOOD THINKS FREEDOM IS ACTUALLY FREE!! LOL, ISN’T THAT GREAT…AND THIS WHOLE TIME I THOUGHT MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY FOUGHT AND DIED FOR SOMETHING THAT’S APPARENTLY GIVEN AWAY AT YOUR LOCAL CONVENIENCE STORE!
Heywood, don’t let your alligator mouth overload your tadpole @$$!
The lapel pin doesn’t mean a darn thing to me either, and I actually liked it that he took it off. It’s an accessory to an outfit, that’s all the pin was.
But alas, actions speak louder than words-and so do inactions!
BTW- i don’t support Bush-while i did vote for him. Kerry i don’t think would have done much better. I wasn’t voting for Bush, i voted against Kerry.
Get your freedome here-for free, giving it away! Hurry while supplies still last!
Idiot…
By getalife
December 10, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
OO has the big mo.
“Oprah-Obama In South Carolina: Biggest Rally Of ‘08 Campaign”
Great tribute to President elect Gore on CNN today.
By ron
December 10, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this
I’m not going to vote for Oprah.I don’t know where she stands on the issues.Is Obama still running?
By Not A Politician
December 10, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
Alot of you all have issues. But the biggest ones are not political. Because a person is famous they don’t have a right to endorse someone for political office? (What is that about?) Are they not American because they are rich and famous? They have the same right to give their opinion as to who should be President as you and I do, Republican or Democrat it’s not about Oprah, Chuck Norris or anyone else it’s about people making an intelligent, informed decision. If grown people choose to vote uniformed it’s nobody’s fault but their own. Everyone wants to judge and criticize but the real question is; Do you have a better solution/are you apart of the solution? If you have such a problem with all the candidates then maybe you have a better platform to stand on. If you do, get off your soap box and do something about it. All this bigotry, left wing, right wing, no wing, liberal, Baptist, Methodist, Christain rhetoric makes me sick. Everyone’s so American, so much better than everyone else. A house divided against itself can not stand maybe that’s why America is falling apart and it’s not because of AIDS, homosexuality, the left/the right, the liberal or the conservative; it’s because of the divisive nature of this country. So go ahead, hate the rich, shun the poor, judge EVERYONE and I garuantee you it won’t matter WHO/What you put we put in the White House in ‘08 they (we) will (continue to) fail because of people like yourselves (not Oprah, Hillary, Barak, Chuck, Rudy or anyone else)
By Atlanta is Dying
December 10, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this
Obama is secretly weakening the Democrat base. He (and Oprah) are hire by pro-Republican juggernauts (corporations) to derail Hilary Clinton’s campaign, thus making her look bad, and enable the Republicans to rule the White House for 4 more years. 4 more years of Republican Rule = War against Iran/Even higher energy prices/World hates the US (even more)/World War III
Hillary in ‘08
By Neo Pat
December 10, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
Lol. Don’t you just love the new patriot!
“I proudly served my country,” has been replaced with “MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY FOUGHT AND DIED…”
By Heywood Jablome
December 10, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
Freedom isn’t free…it’s a bumper sticker. And you wingnuts have cheapened the meaning beyond recognition.
God, after all the numbnut morons who have displayed their stupidity here, we finally have a grand champion in Tray.
Tray, you win the Gold Medal for F*******. Congratulations.
By OOPRES
December 10, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this
Hey Renee: You said only 95% of the women you know wouldn’t vote for either Obama or Clinton. What are the exact numbers of those women, 3?
By Heywood Jablome
December 10, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this
That’s F-u-.c-k—tardery.
By Kitty Clause
December 10, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this
Don’t like Oprah…She is the biggest racist of all…Obama will never make it here in the south…I am not worried about him becoming president. Do you really think this country will elect him with a name like OBAMA?
By Glenn
December 10, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
Not a Politician,
You’re right: you’re not a politician. Which is too bad, as every Yank’s obliged to be one. As to the irrelevance or inaction of those who blog here, I assure you that you’d just be surprised. You find yourself among malcontents, squeaky wheels, burnouts, s hitdisturbers, movers & shakers and rockers & rollers—in short, democrats. And you’re welcome.
Vee,
Thanks for remembering Congresswoman Chisolm, a heroine of mine.
[Rudy 12]
By OOPRES
December 10, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this
Hey itsme: Doesn’t bother me one bit that Obama doesn’t say the pledge of allegiance or sing the National Anthem. I only say the P of A when I need to and as for the National Anthem I don’t sing it because I don’t even know all of the words and I got an A out of Civics!!!!!
By Freelancer
December 10, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this
Some of you greatly underestimate the power of Oprah, especially in the black community! Those blacks who WERE undecided between H and Obama are now FIRMLY in the Obama camp thanks to Oprah. You can take it to the bank! Obama has ALL of the black vote (included the rare, elusive black Republican). It is up to Hillary to get ALL the white Dem vote and some fickle female RINOs.
Yeah, yeah, sounds racist, blah blah blah. It is the truth.
Actually, this might help John Edwards. There are PLENTY of stuffy rich old white geezer Democrats who don’t want a WOMAN president nor do they want a black man in office. Perhaps they will throw their $upport behind Edwards.
By Jackie
December 10, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
Oprah Winfrey is not running for President of the United States. Barack, in my opinion, will win Iowa, South Carolina and possibly New Hampshire and Florida. Hillary Clinton will win everything else. She will win because Democrats will vote for her, not Oprah Winfrey. This foolishness is obfuscation by the Repubs to deflect the abject failure of Dubya. The longer we go, the more that is found of his criminality. Secondly, we should vote out all the incumbents in the House and Senate because they have failed to do what is required to uphold the law and the Constitution. The lying and spineless in Congress were appraised by the CIA into their torture and black prisons, yet, with their roles as counter-weights to the executive execesses, did nothing. Throw all the rascals out; start with a new batch of politicians.
By David
December 10, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this
I am a 27 year old black male, and I will be voting for Hillary. A lot of people are assuming that blacks will vote for Obama, all the people that I talk to(white or black, and democrat) are voting for Hillary. We all love Oprah, but just because she is for Obama does not mean that all blacks are for Obama.
HILLARY 08
By SINGLEMAMA
December 10, 2007 12:50 PM |