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DEL.ICIO.USBush or Ahmadinejad: Who’s worse?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The endless string of presidential candidate Q&A sessions, I’ve believed from the start, offers the nation a clear sense of the differences between the two parties. Commentators and much of the Democratic field conclude before the first ballot is cast that Hillary has her party’s nomination in the bag — so last night’s performance was an occasion to gang up on her.
Most of the first hour was devoted to Iran and how a Democrat in the White House would deal with its efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. The simple answer is that they’d all be smarter at negotiating with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad than the Republicans are or could be. Dennis Kucinich would even talk him out of nuclear power.
Most striking about their responses, however, is that this field of prominent Americans, all of whom are asking the nation’s voters to entrust them with our lives and fortunes, fear and loath George W. Bush more than Ahmadinejad or the prospect of a nuclear-armed Iran. When asked to take a pledge that Iran would not be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons on their watch, the field weaseled. Joe Biden would pledge to keep us safe. Chris Dodd would pledge to “do everything we can.” Bill Richardson pledged to stop them through diplomacy. Kucinich would talk them out of both weapons and nuclear energy. Hillary pledged to “do everything I can.” John Edwards would take all “responsible” steps. Barack Obama? My notes don’t reflect that he said anything.
With the possible exception of Hillary, these are not people you want in the White House in a time of war. That’s especially true of John Edwards. Watching him take on Hillary reveals a trial lawyer with a style that brought him riches in the courtroom but would be a disaster in the White House. Edwards has the ability — or so he projects — to suddenly believe that his adversary, whether a big corporation or a political rival, is the embodiment of evil. He then twists words and actions to reflect his reality. He’d be a seriously dangerous man in the White House, especially leading a nation at war.
Kucinich is an “impeach Bush” wacko who serves as a reminder of how far left his party reaches. Obama has never seemed presidential and still doesn’t. In a decade or two,maybe. Right now he’s at home in the Senate as a junior Joe Biden. It’s easy to imagine him, too, as president of a national or international non-profit. Biden should be in the classroom or in one of the foreign-policy think-tanks where he can preach — and explode on que. Richardson is running to be Hillary’s vice president and, compared to the field, seems relatively harmless.
Dodd is part of the wallpaper. He did make a relevant point, however, and it is that Republicans would prefer to run against Hillary because of her high negatives. Few would actually choose to listen to her voice for four years. And, of course, it’s hard to know what she’d do in the White House, since she comes from that hide-the-ball bloc of liberals who think the electorate wouldn’t choose them if they knew what they’d actually do in office. Social Security is an example. She’d tax the rich to benefit the deserving.
In the first round of joint appearances by the candidates, Hillary came across as the only one tough enough among the Democrats to lead a nation at war. She has her flaws but in this lot I’d certainly prefer having her, rather than Obama, Biden, Edwards or Kucinich, across the negotiating table from Ahmadinejad.
Comments
By TW
October 31, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
Shame on Kucinich for questioning our president’s mental health! WWIII is just what we need to further widen the gap between the have’s and the have not’s. It would also give us the green light to divert government revenue away from the lazy people who don’t want to work and toward new missiles and cool stuff like that. No, pushing for WWIII doesn’t make Bush unstable - it makes him the perfect new millennium Republican.
Rudi ’08 – FINISH THE DRILL!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Dusty
October 31, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this
Jim Wooten,
You are right about that. If I were fighting a boisterous bear, hungry coyotes or aggressive alligators, I’d rather have Hillary than Kucinich. BUT..the rest of the time, the company would be tedious since she lies so much and keeps Bill tagging along.
Also, to think of myself as a Democrat is beyond my imagination so that settles that. Let’s see. Guiliani or Huckabee? Hmmmmm…
By Sweet Lorraine
October 31, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this
Hillary is the next Mother I’d Lobby For. (milf).
Iran’s brain will conceive of and develop the bomb sooner or later. WHen the chinese were close to a nuke, Macarthur wanted to nuke them to stop them.
Bush wants to use conventional weapons not available to Truman to stop Iran, but the effect will be the same: Iran will get their bomb in spite of any attack by us on their country.
So, by declaring war now, Bush will assure that we get nuked sooner or later by Iran. By using sanctions, diplomacy, and starting a global campaign to get the entire world behind the effort to stop Iran from gaining nukes, then we have at least a chance to avert a nuclear exchange with them.
Bush’s way is certain nookyoular annihilation for us. Hillary’s way is a chance for peace, with the world behind us.
Bush is the new Macarthur. The chinese would have eventually got the bomb, and three guesses what they would have done with it if we had Macarthur’d their sorry, slanty-eyed behinds..
By Glenn
October 31, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this
Oh dangit dangit Jim Wooten, why or why did you have to go saying all that, and not something I could disagree with? You spoilsport!
[Rudy 08]
P.S. One of Jim’s notes left unpublished: a UFO spoke through Kucinich’s head.
By jbmlaw
October 31, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. I’m sorry I missed the debates, I think I was painting the dog’s toenails or doing something else similarly more important to me. Approaching the day’s question strictly from the vantage of my prejudices, I will dissent. Acknowledging that I prefer all Republican candidates (yes even the detestable Tancredo and the loopy Paul) to all Democrats (more commentary to follow), Hillary is not my first choice among the Democrats, whether discussing Iran or any other topic. It is not a sex thing, my problem is with her ethics.
Sidetrack - The moonbats will affirm that, as I am one who has supported every Bush initiative on Iraq, my vantage on ethics must be disturbed – of course, they will hurl such mud without any substantial argument. I am with the majority of Republicans, who agree that Iraq was the right war at the right time (or, if anything, past the time it should have been waged.) I am comforted that none of the Democrats, save Kucinich, will actually surrender in Iraq, or at least not sooner than three years hence.
Back to topic, the loquacious Sen. Biden and the changeable Gov. Richardson frequently make more sense to me than all other candidates not named Hillary, and I perceive the two gentlemen are not pandering when they speak. Their positions are truly believed, and I understand the basis for the beliefs even when I do not agree. All things considered, I think I would prefer Sen. Biden, among all Democrat candidates, making decisions on Iraq.
By Aquagirl
October 31, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this
Most striking about their responses, however, is that this field of prominent Americans, all of whom are asking the nation’s voters to entrust them with our lives and fortunes, fear and loath George W. Bush more than Ahmadinejad or the prospect of a nuclear-armed Iran.
Do what?
Okay, I didn’t see the debate, perhaps Jim’s point would be clearer if I had. But I don’t see the connection between a question about how to handle Iran’s nuclear weapons and the conclusion that Democrats think Bush is worse than Ahmadinejad.
By jbmlaw
October 31, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
Apologies, my last word was supposed to be “Iran.”
By Sweet Lorraine
October 31, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
If Bush commits an act of war on Iran now, then when they are ready, Iran will nuke us, no doubt. The Islamic Radical is a suicidal radical. Mutually assured destruction doesn’t constrain his options. So if one door leads to a nuclear holocaust, you dont open it just to enrich Cheney.
What is worse, Bush threatening to nuke Iran, or Iran threatening to nuke us? Why is our threat any better than theirs?
Why badger a bully into kicking your azz? Isn’t it better to turn the bully into your friend by stealing the nerd’s lunch money and giving it to the bully? Lets steal more money from canada and mexico and give that to Iran, then everything will be perfect.
‘muff said.
By DemDems4Ever
October 31, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this
Hard to decide who stirs the pot and creates more responses, Dusty or Jim Wooten.
The constant vitriol aimed at Dusty by the Left makes her the winner, in more ways than one.
Keep ‘em angry Dusty, there is nothing more amusing than reading as getalife, curious, old and grey, dennis and the rest roll on the floor kicking, screaming and crying.
By Producer
October 31, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this
Great topic, Jim. Provocative. Can’t wait to see the peace-at-all-cost democratic ninnies come out screeching that Bush is so much worse than Ahmadinejad! Where’s the popcorn? This should be pathetically entertaining.
By Anonymous
October 31, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this
And we can always count on Wooten for wise, helpful advice for the Democratic electorate, of course.
Seems to me that the Democrat Wooten likes best would be the one most like a Republican, i.e., Hillary. And the ones he dismisses as “unqualified” or “crazy” must be the REAL threats to neocon power.
So anyone Wooten would hate to see in the White House must be a good choice for America. After all, it’s not like they can do worse than Bush.
By DemDems4Ever
October 31, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this
Stolen from today’s Vent:
A top scientist has suggested that the human race will split into two separate species: One will be an attractive and intelligent group, and the other will be Democrats.
By Anonymous
October 31, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this
And P.S.: Since Bush has actual power in America, he’s obviously more of a threat to America.
Ahmadinejad can’t do a thing to us.
By Glenn
October 31, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this
Sweet Lorraine, you’ve got a pair of eyes that’re wider than Dennis’s starry skies. How I wish that you’d realize what MacArthur sought to gain, to gain, toooo gainnnnnnnnnnn.
By Southern Democrat
October 31, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
So any time a megalomaniacal dictator seeks nuclear weapons we should sharpen our swords and rhetoric? What if, God forbid, these same crazy men tested and proved their nuclear capacities? How about a Doomsday scenario… we find that these crazy, off-the-rocker guys have put highly enriched uranium and plans for how to construct nuclear weapons on the black market? We would attack, right?
So when are the bombs going to fall on Pyongyang and Islamabad?
The Republican Party has attempted to use terror and fear as its foreign and domestic policy. It is a long, long way from the cogent, disciplined approach of Reagan, Bush I, Baker, et al., all of whom I genuinely respected on foreign policy issues. If you can’t see that huge mistakes were made and are being made on fundamental levels, we are condemned to repeating them.
By jbmlaw
October 31, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
Dear Glenn @ 9:06, when I read your p.s., the first image that floated through my mind was Kang reciting in debate, “We must go forward, not backwards, upward, not downward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling toward freedom.”
By Mid-South Philosopher
October 31, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Jim,
The Democratic Party…the party of Jefferson and Jackson, which metamorphosed into the party of Roosevelt and Truman, which, in turn, has metamorphosed, again, into the party of Pelosi and Reed…has only Hillary to offer. Any of the other boobs (pardon the pun) running on that side are ludicrious.
The strongest Republican at this point is Guiliani. A social liberal, I can embrace him on virtually every point except the abortion issue. However, since I am pro life, but NOT, anti-abortion, I can live with his character flaw in that area, especially since Georgie Bush showed all of us how totally inept socially conservative Presidents are in dealing with protecting the unborn.
Romney, has some good points, but his record is suspect, and I doubt that he will be able to get over the notion of the religious fanatics that he has a harem of 7 or 8 wives somewhere.
Huckabee appears to be a social conservative, but I note that Phyllis Shafley has her political panties in wad concerning some of his performance in Arkansas. Could be bad among the base.
Third party?
Not a chance…unless we can get Oprah or Donald to toss their hats into the ring.
As W.C. Fields said so long ago, “This is taking democracy too far!”
By Redneck Convert
October 31, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
Well, I kinda listened to the Democrat debate but I kept my back turned to the TV at the trailer like I always do. That way I can’t be accused of watching librul TV.
Anyway, I sort of dozed off till this Kucenich guy started talking about seeing flying saucers. That really got my buddy Jim Earl going. He says he’s seen lots of them, usually right after he’s started working on his third case of PBR. I ain’t seen more than a couple myself. But I give up on the guy after he started talking about impeaching My President. It was pretty clear he’s a nut case. Anybody that don’t like My President is a nut case. So I guess about 70% of the country is nut cases and that’s pretty sad.
I hate all the Democrat canadates but I ain’t too satisfied with the Republicans neither. What do we got? There’s Giuliani that’s on his third wife and moved her into the house before the second one moved out. He needs to be neutered like a stray cat. Besides, he’s for abortion and gun control.
Then there’s this Mormon that no decent Southren guy would vote for because we need a good white Christian in the White House. Two years ago he was for abortion and now he says he’s against it, and you can’t tell when the guy is likely to cut loose and marry four or five women at the same time.
I kind of like this Huckabee because he’s a Baptist preacher but I see how Baptists drink and besides he raised a bunch of taxes in Arkansas.
Then there’s McCain that wants to let all the illegals get legal and then take our jobs. And Thompson is a big disappointment, what with making moron statements that make him sound like TFTT on another bender and marrying a girl that could be his granddaughter.
Anyway, I’m waiting for old Newt to jump into the race. He can lie with the best of the Democrats and he’s pretty slick. Like waiting till his wife was too weak with cancer in the hospitle to do anything and then serving her with divorce papers. And messing around at the same time he was giving Clinton the what-for about messing around. That’s the kind of godly Republican we need to keep the Democrats in their place.
Well, I hope that guy don’t post another book about gold on this blog today. I went to sleep three times trying to read it. Wooten needs to put a word limit on. That would sort of cut back on TFTT and others that want to dump every thought in their head on the rest of us. Have a good day everybody.
By Glenn
October 31, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
Marshal Dusty, both, in that order.
By Dennis
October 31, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this
Jim Wooten says, “Kucinich is an “impeach Bush” wacko who serves as a reminder of how far left his party reaches.”
Spoken like a true pharisee, Mr. Wooten. Your war criminals can do no wrong.
To “impeach Bush”, is the least that needs to be done to him.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By Mid-South Philosopher
October 31, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this
And another thing!
Where did all of you get the idea that any politicians are for tax cuts?
The Bush tax cuts have largely benefited the corporatists over the past seven years. Ideolgically, the impact is supposed to have trickled down (remember that old term) to the middle class and the working poor, and that has happened to a degree.
But then the local politicians (county commissions, city councils, and school boreds) have heaped-on local assessment to make-up the shortfall from the national government.
If they can’t get us coming, they will get us going.
By Glenn
October 31, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
Anonymnous, your favorite assertion is quite like saying that Tojo wasn’t dangerous because the Emperor had the ultimate power. If you think that Ahmadinejad is not a salient threat to the U.S. (to say nothing of France, the UK and the longsuffering Iranian people), then how could we even discuss with you what best to do about the situation? It would be a waste of time even to try to explain to such a person the geopolitical realities and centralities of the Middle East.
Jim is of course not endorsing Hillary, but only pointing out that she’s the only heavy hitter on their bench. Indeed she is, and a scary one too.
The best couple of things going for the GOP right now are:
1) That the Dem. candidates keep harping on Bush, who’s not a candidate; and
2) That a good many Dems like Paul, and among those are some who think that Paul could peel enough GOP votes to make a difference. The thinking is that when he fails to poll high enough to qualify for the federal funds he’d need to continue his underfunded GOP campaign, he’ll break and again run as an independent, bringing with him enough Rep. votes to foil the GOP. The RNC is crossing its fingers in hopes that the pro-Paul people won’t awaken from their daydream, as Paul will pull more votes from Hillary than from any GOP nominee.
By Corky Cobb
October 31, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Wow Jim, this threat seems serious. Our way of life is threatened isn’t it?
Afghanistan, Iraq and now Iran.
You best forget about them Democrats. They are certainly not on board. Its a waste of time. Ain’t gonna happen. They want therapy for the Islamo-Fascist Terrorists.
Time to go to plan B. You can’t have this type of threat go unchallenged. Its time. The threat is real.
Its time to call on America’s “patriots”. The great young Americans that blog all day in support of the president. The students that made us aware during Islamo- Fascist Week. The fine young men and women filling our church pews on Sunday. The young Republican.
Yes sir. School can wait. That career can wait. The football game. The wedding. Jeff’s honeymoon. Give the wife and baby a kiss on the cheek and say good-bye. The threat is real.
We have to be ready, right Jim? Well don’t you think you need to start rounding up the supporters? Certainly you don’t think our current military can handle the threat without reinforcements do you?
We need volunteers for Iran. The threat is real. We must be prepared. Its time.
ENLIST
By Truthifier
October 31, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
Aquagirl, I promise you that Jim’s point would not have been clearer had you seen the debate. No one said that Bush is worse than Ahmadinejad. Jim, as always, has twisted the truth to meet his own firmly held and unchangeable partisan views. Jim puts the Republican party above America so we can’t really expect anything better from him. He is no patriot - he is a cog in the partisan machinery.
By Dusty
October 31, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw@9:29
I love that Kang line you quoted. I am not familiar with Kang but sounds like the Simpsons, sur’nuf or Democrats in Delirium. Let’s see: “We must go forward, not backwards, upward, not downward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling toward freedom.” As you mentioned, it is certainly suggestive of Kucinich.
Midsouth Phil @9:29
Phyllis Shafley? Who? From Arkansas? Where? She doesn’t even register a blip on the political scene. The “far outs” are ..OUT!
Glenn@9:34
I’ll meet you at the OK Corral, buddy! There’ll be no back talk today on this blog! (Pst..there’s a line I like from the The Valley of the Five Hundred or is it Five Thousand? Know which one I mean?)
By getalife
October 31, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
“Bush or Ahmadinejad: Who’s worse?”
Mmmmmm, good question.
Lets see, they both are insane, who thinks they speak to God.
w is spewing WWIII about Iran’s nukes but approves Egypt’s nukes.
w is warmongering to raise the price of oil to give Iran more billions.
w does not have the guts to go speak at an Iranian University.
They both suk on domestic issues.
They both spew insane rhetoric.
I would call it a tie.
By Corky Cobb
October 31, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this
President Bush just doesn’t seem the same these days does he? He seems alone and isolated in the White House.
Its probably because of the war and the lack of support he has gotten.
Oh, not from the lack of support from the Democrats. No, no. He expected that. Bush is depressed because his SUPPORTERS have deserted him.
Bush’s supports were the ones screaming their support every time he would say to them “We must kill them over there so they don’t kill us over here!”
Every time a hand picked Bush audience would hear “We must kill them over there so they don’t kill us over here!” his fans would scream with delight. Bush was like a rock star.
But when Bush needed his vocal backers he found they had disappeared. Gone. Vanished. Its all them Bush supporters that left him high and dry. Do they even know what “we must fight them there” means?
Bush needs help and got “Islamo-Fascist Week” instead.
He needed you to…..
ENLIST
By Adlai
October 31, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this
getalife,
While I find the thought of St. Hill a pill, I find the thought of St. Paul appalling.
[Rudy 08]
P.S. see items (1) & (2) @ 9:56.
By Dusty
October 31, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this
Aw gee, to follow up on my OK corral venture this morning, there are two here who definitely need “plugging”.
First—Dennis @ 9:45 for trying to kill us with monotonous repetition. I mean, how many times can you say “Impeach Bush” or mention “war criminals”, etc, etc., etc.
Second—get that Corky Cobb @10:00. This tiresome twit, in total lack of thought, keeps saying that young Republicans should “ENLIST”.
Now, just whom do you think is over in the mid-east fighting? I haven’t seen any soldiers carrying white flags and running backwards. Nobody burning the flag. Why..it must be young Republicans ‘cause they are not acting like Democrats.
Support the troops and the country for a change, libs!!
By getalife
October 31, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
Joe Biden won that debate.
Biden: “…And the irony is, Rudy Giuliani, probably the most under qualified person since George Bush to seek the presidency, is here - talking about any of the people here. Rudy Giuliani. I mean think about it, Rudy Giuliani, there’s only three things he mentions in a sentence — a noun and a verb and 9/11 and I mean, there’s nothing else. There’s nothing else.”
He stated that warmongering on Iran and w’s ME policy will continue to make you pay more at the pump.
Want cheaper gas, get the hell out of the ME and stop warmongering.
We are giving Iran more billions.
Geez.
By Festus
October 31, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
Nice job, Marshal. Reload. I’ll cover…
Well, the greenies are smarter’n I thought. The Sac Bee reported yesterday that fresh polling shows Golden State Dems already are embarrassed by the speakership of Ms. Pelosi, a Californian. More greenies flunk her than pass her.
Right about…now, key members of the CA Dem. Caucus will be plotting to find a replacement (probably by Jan.) who can still hold their regional advantage together. Harmon? Waxman?
[Rudy 08]
By Anonymous
October 31, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
Glenn: I’m not saying Ahmadinejad’s harmless… I’m saying he can’t do NEARLY as much direct damage to the U.S. as Bush already has.
Sure, Middle Eastern armed nuts are a threat—so’s terrorism. But neither one can come close to threatening the American way of life the way misguided political officials can.
By Jack
October 31, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this
Perhaps we should hope for a democratic win this election. After the economy goes in the toilet, and we will get hit with another 9/11 type attack, maybe then this great nation will be united again and demand more from our elected officials. Remember, it is always darkest before the dawn. it’s not nearly dark enough yet.
By getalife
October 31, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this
Yep, Jim and his ilk are to blame for gas prices, a tax increase if you will.
They will keep beating the war drum on Iran to get to $100 a barrel.
For the Holidays you will give a tank of gas to your family.
Nice going wingnuts.
By time to mercilessly goad the leftist vermin and CARPET BOMB the bacon munching Nazis in Iran
October 31, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
DAMN!!! The crystal meth moonpie abusin’ yanKKKee nutter Lance Korporal Syphilis/inbred redneKKK turd is getting more bewildered and deranged every damn day!! this sorry snivellin’ northern bloviatin’ COCKroach is the biggest racist on this blog - aside from the usual ebonics spoutin’ black racial spoils homies and ho’s - talking of which WTF is crackpipe debbieturd?. It must have been arrested yet again for lascivious street walking and amusingly not made bail!! There’s gonna be some really really angry and humungously frustrated like an utterly unrepentant Kennedy or Arkansas rapist illegal leech mexican day labourers up in Hall County if crackpipe don’t get back on the 7/11 Big Gulp trail real soon!
That poor old treasonous mincing greaseball illegal alien queer getaturd - it keeps on puking up its deranged envy and rabid reverse jealousy of President Bush. Its as patholgically obsessed with Bush as Liberace was playing with his trusty upright organ!! getaturd is secretly really a life long member of the John Birch Society and a three time local chapter head of the Friends of Clarence Thomas.
Nice to see HiTllary getting its blubbery lard arse severely kicked by its fellow cut and run pinKKKo political lepers in yet another worthless hectoring screeching match of the appeasing venal commie vermin. Clearly these should have been aborted leftist surrender monkeys DO HAVE A semi-worthwhile PURPOSE in life!! They exist to be - though not in any particular order - assassinated, sneered at, laughed at, despised, mercilessly mocked, held up as the archetypal poster turd for hate Amercia perfidy and as the perfect, unassailable argument for mass forced euthanasia of genetically mutated garbage!!
By Dennis
October 31, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this
By Dusty October 31, 2007 10:39 AM First—Dennis @ 9:45 for trying to kill us with monotonous repetition. I mean, how many times can you say “Impeach Bush” or mention “war criminals”, etc, etc., etc.
As many times as you can cover for him, Dusty, plus one.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By One
October 31, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this
Bush is the worst thing I’ve seen in a looooooooonnnnnngggggggg time! He’s right up there with Hitler, Castro, and the mob crime bosses!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Corky Cobb
October 31, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
Kucinich wants to give the terrorists therapy. Well he may need to round up those outer space aliens to help defeat the Islamo-Fascist Terrorists, our own warriors have taken a pass on this one.
What message does Islamo-Fascist Week give to the Islamo Fascist Terrorists? Can you imagine going to a college campus to preach a message of fear? “You young adults need to be very very scared. You need to pass the message along to everyone. Its ok to be scared. The terrorists are bad. They are evil. They want to convert you. They hate your freedom. Be afraid.”
Whats missing? You have the fear down. Where’s the bravery? Iran is next but you’re all going back to class? What about the threat? The Islamo-Fascist Terrorists?
Guess what? You phonies are helping Iran build their nuclear capabilities. They see through the internet that all of our warriors have better things to do.
The Islamo-Fascist Terrorists are probably not too scared of the blogs. ‘Firing off a blog’…..Wow scary.
I’m going to be a Blogger for Halloween!
By come onm 08
October 31, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this
Bush is scary. He is more of a threat then Ahmadinejad to America. Can’t wait til Hillary Clinton takes office. No-one knows what to expect from Bush from one day to the other.
By getalife
October 31, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this
Edwards is the most progressive candidate talking about broken government and investigating big oil.
All the problems today are gop created.
The Clintons are positioned well to win in the general and clean up the bushies mess again.
By Dusty
October 31, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
Would someone please pass out the candy to the Halloween hooligans, Dennis, Big Black PrintOne and Corky Cobb? They need to go home and quit covering the neighborhood with graffiti. Bye now, fellows!
Keep ‘em covered, Festus. I’ve gone to get more ammunition.
By getalife
October 31, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this
Watched Ron Paul on Leno last night .
Talk about cutting spending, he wants a flat tax.
Zero income tax.
Said there will be no pie of your money for the lobbyist to fight over. You keep your money, they waste on the empire building.
The Sex Pistols played anarchy and dedicated it to Paul.
Great stuff.
By Dennis
October 31, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
By Dusty October 31, 2007 11:21 AM “Would someone please pass out the candy to the Halloween hooligans, Dennis, Big Black PrintOne and Corky Cobb? They need to go home and quit covering the neighborhood with graffiti. Bye now, fellows!
Keep ‘em covered, Festus. I’ve gone to get more ammunition.”
Get a lot, Dusty, you’re goint to need it. (In fact, you ran out months and months ago).
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By Curious Observer
October 31, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this
Good to see the Tory Tranny, TFTT, demonstrate once more that mental illness is no bar to participation in a political blog.
By jbmlaw
October 31, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this
Dear Dusty @ 10:15, you have a sharp and discerning mind. Indeed, Kang is the space alien on the Simpsons. The episode I quote, spoken by Harry Shearer – maybe my favorite television moment ever – is from the Treehouse of Horror episode in 1996, plot line was that space aliens inhabited the bodies of President Clinton and Senator Dole.
By ray
October 31, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this
great comedy today. seven years later, the best the right can say about ‘w’ is that maybe he is not as bad as ahminedinejad? ha. certainly don’t have to worry about the rightwing setting the bar very high.
memo to the right: stick with bashing hillary. you have nothing else.
By Quoterina
October 31, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
“This is the world we live in. It’s not this happy, romantic-like world where we’ll negotiate with this one, or we’ll negotiate with that one and there will be no preconditions, and we’ll invite Ahmahandjob to the White House, we’ll invite bin Laden to the White House. Hillary and Obama are debating whether to invite them to the inauguration or the iaugural ball…” — Rudy the cross-dresser, sounding like he caught syphilis from Rush Limbaugh
QUESTION FOR RUDY LOVERS: Why does he say ridiculous things like this? Doesn’t he have actual pertinent positions, ideas, or strategies for the betterment of America he could discuss? Is “Democrats would invite Bin Laden to the White House!” really the best he can do? Just curious.
By jbmlaw
October 31, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this
Dear ray @11:39 a.m. Personally, I can’t get up much enthusiasm for bashing Hillary. I must admit I have found her for more than a decade to be the most alluring milf on the planet.
By Dusty
October 31, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this
Whoa,there my friend jbmlaw, that one flew over my head. What’s a milf?
By time to enthusiastically eliminate all leftist vermin
October 31, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this
what the good barrister means is that whilst their political leanings may clash, he would like it if he and hiTlary’s nether regions would clash.
By Glenn
October 31, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
Y’all kip talkin’ ‘bout Marshal Dusty thataway, ‘n’ ahma hafta take ‘n’ lock y’in the jayalhouse, naya, ‘n’ ya wouldn’ta wont that naya, wouldja?
Anonymous, now I see your argument, but I can’t see as how I agree about W being this nation’s chief enemy and king-hell hobgoblin. Much less to I detect his having wrought the devastation to which you, getalife, ray et all frequently allude. Pray tell me, which of your rights has been stifled? Which aspect of your quality of life has been dimished one whit by Mr. Bush’s incumbency? And which specific findings would you enumerate in your bill of impeachment? Which high crimes or misdemeanors? (Hint: that means which broken laws.)
Whilst you greenies think up some schoolyard taunts in rebuttal, please plan to keep ranting about W and raving about Ron Paul. It plays into our hands nicely.
Incidentally, George Bush doesn’t claim that God speaks to him, only that he speaks to God. Regularly. Frequently. While on his knees.
[Rudy 08]
By Muddy Rivers
October 31, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
man, i love the humble id thief!
By time for cut and run leftist queers to STFU
October 31, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this
By jove its enormously amusing to see the abjectly socially inadequate peeping tom puking up yet more psychotically HYPOCRITICAL queeralicious abuse - what!!
Its freaking hilarious to see ALL these limp wristed liberal dogturds endlessly shamelessly using homosexual themed abuse to sneer at their conservative intellectual betters. Bet the moveyour bowels.org nutters and other ultra vile turd burglar buggers and mincing poofs would screech like an obese Tokyo Rosie O’D ike about the lame queer insults - eh peeping tom??.
By fixer upper
October 31, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
Quoterina; Why you ask!
In 1995, as Mayor of New York City, Rudolph Guiliani threw Yasser Arafat out of a New York City concert honoring the United Nations.”
“New York City will not honor terrorists and dictators.”
Two very different views of how to deal with terrorists and their supporters isn’t it? America, time to choose.
Happy to oblige.
By ray
October 31, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this
dusty: it’s nothing you’d find in the men’s room at the airport. perhaps jbmlaw is changing his ways. been reprogrammed, jbmlaw?
By jbmlaw
October 31, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
Dear Dusty @ 12:26, you once again prove you are the smartest blogger hereabouts. You correctly perceive the 12:24 item was actually written and posted by our friend PoFo, and as always, you were the only one who caught him. Frankly I am also unfamiliar with the apparently-coarse term in the nickjacked line.
By Aquagirl
October 31, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
By Truthifier
October 31, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
Aquagirl, I promise you that Jim’s point would not have been clearer had you seen the debate. No one said that Bush is worse than Ahmadinejad. Jim, as always, has twisted the truth to meet his own firmly held and unchangeable partisan views.
Thanks for clearing that up, Truthifier. So the information I did miss was “today is yellow journalism day”
What partisan crap. It’s cast in the same mold as Cynthia McKinney blabbering that Bush knew about 9/11. Why even discuss such trash?
By jbmlaw
October 31, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this
I love tweaking the humble id thief by attributing his clever shenanigans to Political Foreskin, who I know he is not.
But he did such a good Dusty imitation that I really thought it was her. That scamp!
By Glenn
October 31, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this
Quoterina, the answer to your inanely loaded question is, from my end, that I like the quote a good deal, and even more so in audio, though I disagree with anyone — and that one would be you alone — who asserts that that particular utterance is the best that Mr. Giuliani can do. During the first week of this month, Ms. Clinton inexplicably feigned a rather untrained cackle in response to any and all challenging questions put to her publicly. Presumably no one in her right mind would assume that that was the best that Ms. Clinton could do, in the face of the difficulties and opportunities now facing the nation. Were there a person so touched, she would do better to take a can of spray paint to an underpass, and not worry compassionat persons about her well being.
[Rudi 08]
By Glenn
October 31, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this
Thanx fer fixin’ dem what wanneda put da fix in, fixer upper.
By Rudy
October 31, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this
For me, every day is an anniversary of September 11th. Not that I’m a wh0re who would milk the deaths of my friends and fellow Americans for political power or anything. My wife, on the other hand….
By Kennesaw State University
October 31, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this
KSU will be offering a course in coarse on Nov. 8 at 7 p.m. Enrollment is free. Legal professionals receive a discount.
By Tony Soprano
October 31, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this
Rudy knows what happens if he betrays his real family.
By Jack
October 31, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this
MILF=Mother I’d like to f—-. As soon as I read that I knew it wasn’t our esteemed lawyer of the blog.
By Glenn
October 31, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this
Aaaaaaa DONKEY’S A HORSE AND COARSE, OF COURSE, AND NEVER NEED STUDY A COURSE IN COARSE, UNLESS OF COURSE THAT DONKEY’S A HORSE WHO ENDORSED GIULIANI INSTEAD!
By Father Joseph III
October 31, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this
Based solely on the number of people murdered and maimed, Bush is the most evil man since his mentor, Adolf Hitler.
By Anonymous
October 31, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this
Quoterina: QUESTION FOR RUDY LOVERS: Why does he say ridiculous things like this? Doesn’t he have actual pertinent positions, ideas, or strategies for the betterment of America he could discuss?
Because if Rudy had anything intelligent to say… he’d be a Democrat.
By Father Confessor
October 31, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this
Joe, you defrocked creep, get out of here.
By Glenn
October 31, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
BTW jbm, that’s my problem with Hillary also. In my family we’ve come honestly to the disturbing conclusion that she’s actually amoral. Even when we ignore her relative inexperience together with the awful things she’s said and done in years past, we can’t think of a single moment of grace in her biography. Something, anything, like Bobby Kennedy in Appalachia, or Lincoln’s pardons or his Bixby letter, or Jimmy Carter with a claw hammer, or Truman defending his daughter. Anything, anything at all.
By BS Aplenty
October 31, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this
Sweet, Deranged, Cross-dressing Lorraine @9:03
Your clear qualifications as an arms specialist nothwithstanding, I believe there are a number of leaders around the world who believe appeasment of the Iranian gas-bag, Ahmedinejad, is not in anybody’s best interest.
It’s clear that the Germans and the French people recently elected leaders who are more aligned with President Bush’s foreign policies than their predecessors.. I’ll take Sarkozy’s statements as an affirmation of Bush’s general approach to the Iranians and N. Koreans. Senator Clinton may have a new communist approach to healthcare, but I doubt seriously she’ll change U.S. policy toward Iran.
AS to your claim that the U.S. would be “annihilated” in a nuclear exchange with Iran…uh, the kiddie table is over at Luckovich’s column - I hear he’s lifted the “no retards” rule just for you.
jbmlaw you rock ever so reasonably.
By Real Values Voter
October 31, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this
If Senator Clinton and Mayor Guiliani face off in the 2008 Presidential Race, I would have to do the Christian thing and vote for Hillary Clinton. This would be based on the following:
First she practices her religion the way Jesus suggested: privately. Like a Dick Cheney energy meeting. Second, she didn’t commit adultery. Her husband did. (Guiliani is a known adulterer.) Afterward, she did the Christian thing and she forgave him. She’s raised an admirable daughter, while Rudy’s kids couldn’t hate him more if they were New York City firefighters.
And if any of you had values, you’d draw the line at torture, something Guiliani has no problem with. I’m pretty sure if you asked, “What would Jesus veto,” it wouldn’t be health care for sick kids.
By time for the harsh but fair truth
October 31, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
yet more DESPICABLE URINAL RACIAL BOLLOCKS
The Urinal puked up countless wasted ink and often hysterical LIES/half truths and blatant racially informed distortions about the deliberate, PREMEDITATED racist LYNCHING by six despicable sullen BLACK THUGS of one completely innocent white kid in Jena!!
Yet when SEVEN black thugs at Six Flags beat into a coma just one back yoof - for no apparent reason at all, the Urinal says bugger all about the race of these cowardly gangbanging black scum!! They don’t even use photos of the legal age scum … which is a gutless cop out too!!
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/cobb/stories/2007/10/31/sixflags_1031.html
Its either the Urinal is sh!t skeered to point simply a FACTUAL finger at thuggish black hippety hop yoof scum - or its just not news worthy i.e. SEVEN black thugs beating into a coma yet another countless black victim. Either way the systematic blatant racial pandering to blacks in this worthless, far left, deservedly massively losing circulation so called newspaper is utterly despicable and shows folks that the Urinal ONLY EVER race baits when its whites that are the innocent victims of PREMEDITATED black thuggery!!
Just like in its deeply repugant and FACT FREE Duke lynching coverage!!
Why doesn’t the Urinal actually aggressively cover the epidemic of black crime in the metro area??!!
BECAUSE THEY ARE DAMN PANDERING COWARDS??!!
Why don’t they actually count up the staggering number of black petty criminals/thugs/killers etc - along with the mexican type thugs/killers/criminals etc and specifically contrast this NUMERICALLY with the white criminals/killers and the asian/oriental ones etc. etc.
NOW THAT would be a day I actually bought the fish wrapper … so long as they were fair and honest with NO pandering excuses!! Just fair and honest reporting!!
If the actual statistical extent of out of control black crime was actually recorded and presented to the folks in the metro area - going back at least a few years - political pressure would hopefully massively mount for something to be done!!!
By jbmlaw
October 31, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this
Dear Jack@1:35 p.m. BS Aplenty just demonstrated what a fluffer is, and I appreciate it very much.
By Sweet Lorraine
October 31, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
Do you think that when Peyton Manning was having dinner with his parents as a child, he would point all over the table and call out for the salt, then call an audible and change it to pepper, but continually pointing around at the milk and the peas and gravy bowl, just to keep his younger brother guessing? (and throw off the defense?)
By time for the witty amusing truth
October 31, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this
Anyone reckon the vile venal Billy bigot Campbell will do the same thing here, or any of the many sullen hippety hop thugs currently banged up?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7070637.stm
By ron
October 31, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this
Real Value - Huh?
I hear Hillary wouldn’t send Chelsea to the D.C. public schools because she just didn’t want the young lass to be around all those high- achieving types.
Hillary - she’s just a good Christian - not a racist - and she’ll definitely get your vote !
Nimrod.
By Peter
October 31, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this
Gotta love this comment……..
By DemDems4Ever
October 31, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this
Stolen from today’s Vent:
A top scientist has suggested that the human race will split into two separate species: One will be an attractive and intelligent group, and the other will be Democrats.
Wow……. talk about hate and splitting Americans……
No wonder we are where we are today…… Americans hate Americans.
No brotherly love here….
Good Job ALL !!!!!!
By getalife
October 31, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
w breaks the tie
Nice work wingnuts.
Geez.
By Father Joseph III
October 31, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
Gold, silver, oil, the Euro, and the Aussie dollar are soaring today, more money for me, he he he. The AmeriKan pig dollar is dying on world markets, ha ha ha. I am trying to drive a wooden stake thru its heart, even now as I write these golden words. Allah is great, he destroys the Great Satan! ha ha ha ha
By Trader Vick
October 31, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this
Father Joseph III
Keep driving it down, Padre - most traders are short the U.S. dollar.
Ca-ching, ca-ching.
By Father Joseph III
October 31, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this
Yo Trader, check the yen-dollar pair, you are getting killed!
By getalife
October 31, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
“Hillary Wins Big AFSCME Endorsement:
This is no time to take chances. We need someone who knows how to fight and knows how to win. Sisters and Brothers, Senator Clinton is a seasoned fighter. Believe me, she knows how to fight and she knows how to win. Some of you may have seen last night’s debate.
Six guys against Hillary.
I’d call that a fair fight.
This is one strong woman.
This is the Democrat with the strength and experience to make change happen.
This is the Democrat with the strength and experience who will always stand up for working Americans.
This is the Democrat with the strength and experience to take on the Republicans in the fall.
This is the Democrat who can win the White House in 2008”
Yes wingnuts,
The gop are the creators of high gas prices and all the problems today.
Your candidates do not have the brains of the Clintons.
By @@
October 31, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this
Better question Jim. Who’s runnin’ and who’s Putin?
Strategic dancers are performing the “Global Shuffle” while the democrat’s candidates are stepping on each other’s toes…clumsily stumbling with the “Texas Two Step”.
It’s “swing dancing” at its best. First it was the Russian Bear dancing with the Iranian Weasle, now it’s the American Eagle cuttin’ in after a brief visit to the concession stand.
What will it be? Tune in next week for “Dancing with the Stars”. On the schedule, I anticipate a fabulous display of Mahmoud in convulsions while attempting to do “The Jerk”.
By Father Joseph III
October 31, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this
Six guys against Hillary - I guess you could say Hillary was pulling the train. Jack, is Hillary your long lost Daughter?
By Jack
October 31, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this
No. She’s your ex. (you weren’t enough for her)
By ron
October 31, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this
Cardinal B
Thankfully we find out from getaloaf that HiTlary has won the endorsement of the ACNE union. Quick, break out the Clearacil and maybe we can wipe ‘em out before it spreads.
By Father Joseph III
October 31, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
Jack, we priests are not allowed to marry - so Jackie must be your momma!
By @@
October 31, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this
OH CRIKEEEEEEE!!!!!
Maybe you two could take this discussion to a porn site.
I hope Jim Wooten is as offended as I am. Surely something could be done to stop the “crude” from spilling onto this site.
Jim????????
By Father Joseph III
October 31, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this
@@ - This is just guy talk, the skirts should just skip ahead.
By Father Joseph III
October 31, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this
ok, we guys apologize to all the sissies out there, our conversation will continue on the web site heaven666.org, roger wilco, over and out
By @@
October 31, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this
Father Joseph:
the skirts should just skip ahead.
Excuuuuuuse me? you liberal chauvinist swine!
Did you ever stop to think that kids might be reading here? A person doesn’t have to be 18 to register ‘ya know.
Moving on you perverted scumbag.
By jbmlaw
October 31, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this
Dear PoFo @ 1:50, everyone knew that was you and not me when you used the word “very.” A meaningless modifier. I once heard an argument that the term should never be used except as a substitute for “damned.” And then I read an opposing view that said, “I respectfully disagree, signed, the very reverend Bishop Smith.”
By Sweet Lorraine
October 31, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this
No jbm. I hesitate to tell you this and ruin so many troll’s fun, but most of what you and the rightists here think is me, is not. There’s a bunch of guys having a lot of fun w/you, turning your heads around, and who am I to rat them out. You wont believe it anyway, but trust me on this one, I’ve got an entourage of trolls. This guy’s been doing you for sometime now, and I dont think he’s trying to impersonate me, so that’s how effective these trolls are in confusing the rightists here.
LOL Never try to guess an alias. Just dont do it. You’ll be wrong. Just blog your truth and people will either dig it, or they’ll call you a moron. So what?
‘muff said. (this is the real giveaway, because I have a flaw in my makeup. I cant blog without signing off, “muff said”. I dont know why this is so, except that I’m a muff diver.
‘muff drowned.
bwa what a fall guy, honestly.