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Disasters, by race and class
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
News organizations are sometimes accused of stirring the pot on race and class, producing divisiveness. Oddly, it had not occurred to me to draw conclusions from race and class differences in people affected by two natural disasters of different types — Hurricane Katrina and the wildfires in Southern California.
And yet, we are informed, some believe the coordinated efforts to fight the fires and the volunteer-heavy efforts to aid victims in the current disaster, compared to the debacle in New Orleans, “has something to do with poverty, politics and race.” As noted in an AJC article:
“California is relatively rich and has proportionately fewer black residents than most other states, while Louisiana is among the poorest and blackest states.”
That observation, whatever it reveals about hurricanes and fires, is supported by charts comparing the difference in home prices in San Diego and in New Orleans, in income, the percentage of families living in poverty, the racial breakdown and — admittedly, this may be useful to know — the percentage of households without a vehicle.
In New Orleans, in addition to the breakdown of state and local leadership — which, incidentally, cost Gov. Kathleen Blanco a second term — meant that buses remained parked that could have been used to shuttle people without vehicles out of the city before the hurricane hit.
Must, God forbid, we forever in America measure response to disasters by race and class? Or will that end when George W. Bush leaves office?




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Comments
By Jeff
October 25, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten:
If the libs don’t do it, the neo-cons will.
There is only one Presidential candidate that stands a CHANCE of uniting all Americans, and that Candidate is the Hope for America, Dr. Ron Paul.
Assuming either Obama or (God forbid) Hillary wins, you’ll never hear the end of it from the neo-cons (and admittedly, probably the true conservatives as well). Similarly, if Rudy McRomneyson wins, you’ll never hear the end of it from the libs (and admittedly, probably the true conservatives as well).
Dr. Ron Paul truly is the only Hope for America.
By Shark Sammich
October 25, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this
Race and class will enter into these discussions for as long as we continue to recognize race and class, Jim.
Stop being a baby and stop griping about it. Jeez.
By Anonymous
October 25, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
As long as the GOP practices racism and class warfare, the horrible act of “pointing it out” will continue, Jim.
By Shark Sammich
October 25, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this
You want to gripe about something legitimate? How about Fox News’ despicable attempts to link al-frickin’ Qaeda to the California fires by using a four-year-old FBI memo?
Nothing to see there, right, Jim? Move along and gripe about comparisons to Katrina!
By Analchord
October 25, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this
Ask black people about how fair growing up black in America be, Mister. Ask the victims about their experience with the white people in their lives.
You only have to ask the black person sitting next to you, Mister, in the office there. Gain his confidence, and ask. “So how was it when you were ten years old, fifteen years old, twenty years old, when you interfaced with white people in certain situations, (like going outside)?
Ask, Mister. Just ask.
Mother Nature is not the problem. Hurricanes and Fire are survivable. It’s white folk what be makin’ the everlasting storm. (at least white folk be watchin’ Oprah)
By Shark Sammich
October 25, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this
Jeff wrote:
Assuming either Obama or (God forbid) Hillary wins, you’ll never hear the end of it from the neo-cons
And who, pray tell, will care?
By Redneck Convert
October 25, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this
Well, the biggest disaster on race and class was when a fambly of Those People moved into my trailer park. Now I have to keep a close eye on the missus and keep everything locked up. Including the dog.
Anyway, I was real pleased to see that the federal guvmint done good when good white Christian folk in San Diego got hit by wildfires. It done real bad when Those People in New Orleans got hit by flooding.
That’s the way it should be. If you are white and make good money and got your own house and such, the federal guvmint ought to be tripping over itself to get aid to you. Because you pay taxes and vote Republican and all. If you are one of Those People and a bunch of welfare bums then the federal guvmint ought to take its time and make a lot of mistakes and get the aid real late to you. Because you don’t pay taxes and vote Democrat and all. Besides, the guvner of California is a Republican and you need to help your own. While the guvner of Louisiana was a Democrat at the time of the flood. You don’t help a Democrat if you are a good white Christian. Not and go to heaven, you can’t.
So I’m awful glad we respond to the disasters by race and class. We need to keep doing it. And if a Republican gets elected to the White House next year we will. All you get when you help a bunch of Those People is more votes for Democrats. If you take your time and let some of them die off, well, dead people can’t vote. Unless it was a few years ago in GA and they voted in order of the alphabet. It must of been awful for all them dead people to line up and learn each others name and get in the right order. What with them being dead and kind of weak and all. Now they have to show photo ID to prove they are the dead people they say they are.
And tell Wooten I’m tired of getting slammed by Sister Dusty. Every time some librul gets on here she accuses them of being my buddy. Anyway, if she would pay more attention to emptying the bed pans in her job in Health Care she wouldn’t have time to be slamming people.
By Jeff
October 25, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this
Anonymous:
The Democratic Party is just as responsible - if not more so - for practicing racism and class warfare as the GOP.
By ron
October 25, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
Jim, Just maybe,disaster response is a learning curve.One group learns their job just in time to get replaced by another group.Maybe it's race related,but cries of "let Malibou burn",makes me wonder about that.The two disasters are completely different in scope.There is plenty of time to get in the car,bus,train, horse,or whatever and leave.The weather is fantastic.,not for the firefighters,but the evacuees.People are heeding evacuation orders.It has happened in California before.A plan is in place.Gangs are not running around killing people.I haven't heard any reports of looting,not even by the police.The national guard can actually help,it's not on patrol.The governor says to tell him what you need and he will get it,and he does.Half the population isn't planning for the Mardi Gras.People are staying off the roads and cell phones.Imagine that.By Shark Sammich
October 25, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this
Ron gave us:
The Democratic Party is just as responsible - if not more so - for practicing racism and class warfare as the GOP.
Horse crap.
Your idea of “practicing racism and class warfare” means that Democrats actually identify actual examples of racism and class warfare and work to alleviate them.
Put shorter, to recognize racism and class warfare is, in a conservative’s eyes, to practice it.
Which is horse crap.
By Aquagirl
October 25, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this
Gangs are not running around killing people.I haven’t heard any reports of looting,not even by the police.Half the population isn’t planning for the Mardi Gras.People are staying off the roads and cell phones.Imagine that.
Bummer for Louisiana. You know you’re in trouble when the fruits and nuts of California make you look disorganized and crazy.
By Jeff
October 25, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this
Shark:
To cry “racism” and “class warfare” where NON EXISTS is to fan the flames of racism and class warfare.
By jbmlaw
October 25, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. Lawyers exploit emotions to earn fees, and newspapers/cable news exploit emotions to sell advertising. The world is as it ever has been. My best guess is that racial exploitation works in New Orleans, and the bizarre words will have no lasting meaning in San Diego. I had the opportunity to listen to “the Godfather” yesterday for 15 minutes (that is Boortz’s affectionate appellation for Rush Limbaugh) and Rush was taking telephone calls from San Diegans who were outraged at some national politicians who were comparing the government response to fires to the Katrina disaster. The common theme in the conversations was that the Qualcomm Park gathering was more like a large tailgate party, whereas the Superdome was more like a darkened ghetto street after midnight. After hearing it all, I am persuaded the politicians are preaching to, and attempting to reignite the sense of distress for, the conventional “victims” of systemic racism, and specifically not talking to anyone who has actually suffered a loss in California.
Special aside to getalife, your question reflects your lack of acquaintance with Podhoretz. World War III was the 50-year war against communism, concluded successfully in 1989.
By jbmlaw
October 25, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
Dear Jeff the Jew-baiter @ 8:50, you do not even know what a “neo-con” is. When have you ever heard a complaint by a neo-conservative?
By Kieran
October 25, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this
In 1989-90, I was a disaster relief worker (paid, not one of the wonderful volunteers) following the Loma Prieta earthquake in California. Several inexplicable things happened during the 17 seconds of that killer quake. One of the bizarre things was that, in the area hardest hit, the homes of the relatively affluent were almost completely untouched, while the homes of the poor (and they were very poor) were destroyed. In many cases the two kinds of residences were just yards distant. It was really eerie! So the poor were made homeless and the comfortable stayed comfortable. I don’t remember the media’s ever having reported this. Maybe that’s because the displaced poor people were mostly Mexicans.
Anyway, when it came time to rebuild, the people with money pulled strings to relocate the poor (asgain) to the outskirts. Up went the home prices.
There’s a difference between natural evil and moral (man-made) evil. It’s like the difference between a wildfire and a book of matches.
By Shark Sammich
October 25, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this
Jeff whined:
To cry “racism” and “class warfare” where NON EXISTS is to fan the flames of racism and class warfare.
None exists?
Which fairy-tale land to you live in? Surely not America.
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
AnalRoberts,
Sent this before — turns out, to the old string — re yr. disgraceful wisecrack about Ferrari-driving Californians. (You’ll burn with them for that.)
**Bloggers from GA mock GA.
Posters from TX rib TX.
The Ferrarist Lucrezia BA,
In CA would sport a new LX.**
* Rudy 08
By Shark Sammich
October 25, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this
j’s bowel-movement law gave us:
I had the opportunity to listen to “the Godfather” yesterday for 15 minutes (that is Boortz’s affectionate appellation for Rush Limbaugh)
If you gladly suffer the foolishness of Rush and Boortz, you’ve just surrendered any claims of credibility on this topic.
Right wing radio blowhards have been more responsible than anyone else in stirring flames of hatred over Katrina; they continue to spread lies about the shooting incidents that were never, ever verified.
But they don’t exist in a vaccuum; they need stupid people like, say, you, to continue to support them and their advertisers.
Later, gators. I’m sure this place will be a cesspool of the usual right wing idiots spewing racist horse crap when I return.
Thanks, Jim! you’re a great American.
By Jack
October 25, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this
It will never end Jim. Everyday the AJC will remind us that the evil white man has done the black community wrong in one way or another. The AJC does nothing but fuel the fires of racism with this drivel. What a rag this paper is. It’s no wonder circulation is down. It should be in the toilet. Not even good enough to line the bird cage.
By time for the brutally honest truth
October 25, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
Ron Paul is a complete MoRoN - he completely humiliated himself on The O’Reilly Factor with his stunning ignorance of geo-politics. And he’s still smarting over it (as video footage shows) by bitterly sneering at O’Reilly at his tiny poorly attended pointless campaign gatherings. Even Rudy had to publicly biiitch clap the MoRoN for his ignorance and craven stupidity on Iraq in a GOP debate.
HAPPILY - just like the equally moronic far left cut and run vermin trailing the smug witch cackling lard arsed corrupt to the core venal HiTllarybitch - Paul will just be yet another abysmally failed lunatic fringe candidate!!
The glaring stark contrast between how backward poorly educated gimme gimme sullen blacks behaved in the face of a natural disaster THAT WAS VERY NOISILY for several days PREDICTED AS BEING POTENTIALLY PRETTY CATASTROPHIC - yet largely ignored by corrupt demoNcrat elected officials - and how largely white folks in Kalifornia reacted when very suddenly both their homes and lives were in deadly peril from fast moving huge fires is very telling.
It isn’t class, or money/lack of money. Its primarily the age old collective sullen selfishness of ebonics speaking “urban” blacks who aggressively expect EVERY DAMN THING to be provided by the govt!!! Collectively (obviously not always individually) most blacks in NOLA were/are unable to think for themselves. And the worthless racist bigot chocolate city Nagin - who was cowering, hiding half way up a huge NOLA hotel, and then ran away to TX -provided the kind of lets flood all the school buses too leadership epitomising the lazy/cowardly/corrupt black attitude to disaster. And yet very predicktably this worthless bigot was reelected by blacks who simply cannot stand being exposed/criticised for their sullen gimme gimme mindset!!
Remember the corrupt NOLA black demoNcrat Jefferson with $90000 of pay off money in his freezer, he despicably used military vehicles to rescue his personal possessions from his house whilst countless others were drowning and suffering because of the pathetic non-existent black leadership in Katrina devastated NOLA, Yet he too was gleefully reelected by local blacks!!
The HUGE difference between these massive natural disasters in LA and CA is that in CA the state has instantly stepped up and been the driving force in dealing with very fast moving events. In LA the cowering corrupt to the core demoNcrat scum sat there - like lemmings caught in the we hate Bush headlights - sullenly waiting for the feds to do virtually ALL the heavy lifting.
Now predicktably some rabidly dishonest liberal scum are LYING about the CA Nat Guard - 2000 of wHom are in IRaq - but 17000 of whom are NOT!!
Note how there has been NO violence, NO black gangs coming down from from Mephis, and FL and elsewhere running around looting at gun point, NO cops stealing luxury cars etc in metro San Diego!! NO vile hysterical media LIES about rapes and killings at the NFL stadium in San Diego!!
That’s largely down to the racial/cultural difference between sophisticated civilised folks - along with the benefits of actually having COMPETENT LOCAL/STATE GOVT and those who aint ever had that!!
By Dennis
October 25, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this
By Jeff October 25, 2007 8:50 AM | “Assuming..(God forbid) Hillary wins, you’ll never hear the end of it from the neo-cons (and admittedly, probably the true conservatives as well).”
If it will soothe the feathers of the neocons, a true liberal doesn’t want Hillary either. But if she wins, the neocons brought it on themselves and the rest of us by refusing to put the reigns on the Bush administration.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this
Sharky,
And the greenies of the big media continue to spread lies about the CA wildfires:
That the fires are mostly in San Diego County;
That most of the victims are wealthy;
That some agencies at some levels of government are underreacting;
That CA got its disaster-response act together because of 9/11;
That it got its act together because of Katrina;
The Arnold is leading or not leading;
That CA has not experienced fires of this and greater import.
As a reflection of actual events on the ground out there, the media amount to a funhouse mirror. As usual. On the Sphincter Scale, I give ‘em a C-. Jim included.
But then perhaps I fail to see the real meaning of Jim’s perceptive screed, that California’s fires fan the flames of the neo-pagan Environmentalism that stupefies us while our feckless procrastinators duck the great challenge of this generation and squander the money that’s needed to prevent Social Security collapse with all its epochal fallout.
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this
Morning, jbm. What did you think of getalife’s pegging Rudy as a neocon? That’s quite interesting to me, for some reason.
By Truthifier
October 25, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
I would hope that disaster response isn’t based on such things as race or class or economic status, but a recent conversation with a good friend enlightened me to how many people really feel. This has nothing to do with New Orleans or Southern California, but my friend’s family recently loss their home to a fire. There was apparently some lack of coordination on the part of the local volunteer fire department and the home was not saved. His response was to say that his family should have gotten the best firefighting skills available because they “live in one of the nicer parts of town” and “pay more taxes than poor people.” Needless to say, I was surprised to hear him say this, but I suspect he is not the only person who feels that way.
By time for the brutal but honest truth
October 25, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
WOW … so there are still some smart, wise and practical, sensible students left on the liberal infested we hate America and conservative whites campuses in the USA.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304806,00.html
By Curious Observer
October 25, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this
I think I’ve got it. Let a white, wealthy Californian build a million-dollar house atop a tenderbox just waiting for a spark, and he’s a victim when the conflagration erupts. But let a poor black NOLA resident live in a hovel below sea level, and he’s too stupid to live when the flooding occurs.
Thanks for the clarification, jbmlaw and tftt. Some of us need your wisdom if we are to make sense of this world.
By jbmlaw
October 25, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
Dear Glenn @ 10:18, other than the fact that Giuliani is not Jewish, getalife has an argument. By any measure Giuliani is an internationalist, and seemingly aligned with Podhoretz’s world view, as are all reasonably literate people. I think all would agree that Giuliani was a big government advocate in his past, and he seems to be getting past that particular level of ignorance. Those seem to be the only requirements to qualify as a neoconservative. John McCain and Mitt Romney could also seemingly qualify. Most of the other republican candidates would not, as they have never been in a position where they had to renounce a personal history of wishy-washy moderatism.
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this
jbm, thanks for your observations. Had there been professed neocons in Nixon’s heydey, would Dick have qualified? The cutthroat realpolitise Kissinger holding down the international fort, the latent hippie Ehrlichman tending to the care & feeding of LBJ’s Great Society?
“He’s tanned, rested and ready. The New Nixon, Rudy Giuliani!” * * Rudy 08
By Jackie
October 25, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this
New Orleans and the hiring of British security guards by the Federal government who gave them orders to shoot and kill ANYONE shows there will always be a race and class issue in the USA and its politics.
By No Laughing Matter
October 25, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
Did anybody notice that Jim did not note who the article quoted on this particular issue. He did not tell us who created the charts, who made the comparisons, etc. We are only told that “some” believe this to be true. The inference is that “Democrats, liberals, all the usual bogeymen for the left” believe this to be true. But we have no way of knowing who “some” are, and whether we should even care what “some” say on this issue. For all we know, the people raising the issue could be Katrina victims, fire victims, real estate agents, crackpots, right wing plants, reporters, civil rights advocates, trapeze artists, chefs, drivers with DUI convictions, etc. A classic attempt to hide the bogeyman and try to make it seem like the left is playing the race card again. Nice work, Jim.
By time to expose peeping tom's bigoted sick lies
October 25, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
peeping tom’s deranged imbecilic dishonesty as ever is enormously amusing!!
Since when is San Diego County and the surrounding areas “a tinderbox”? (note proper spelling dickweed). Folks have lived there for decades with only occasional fires and NOT on this scale for decades. Leftist MoRoNiC wankers like U are obviously very selectively oblivious of the fact that folks need to live somewhere as metro areas grow and expand. Typical leftist scum - blaming the victims because they have money!!
Its the Santa Ana winds, plus the obsessive leftist eco whacko scum who have prevented proper thinning out of forests - so ‘fire stoking’ debris is NOT removed, plus in some cases a sick and twisted arsonist. I note that U’re despicable envious pinKKKo puke as ever vomits up socialist type envy!!
U are - just this once - 100% correct peeping tom - the blacks were too stupid/too lazy to leave (note correct spelling again dickweed)!!
As ever the rabidly DISHONEST leftist scum on here UTTERLY IGNORE the core point!! Ebonics spouting “urban” blacks, especially in the likes of NOLA, have for decades now been programmed to await state/local govt ‘to do’ for them!! If the govt doesn’t ‘do’ for them - many times they are too stupid and lazy and bewildered to manage to do for themselves!!
I note as ever U despicably IGNORE the rampant black criminality in Katrina affected NOLA and the completely harmonious gathering of poorer folks in the San Diego NFL stadium where NO liberal media hysteria has been puked up about rapes/murders etc, in the Katrina like way WITH SICKENING LIES that tried despicably to paint the ebonicsd spouting blacks as “victims” of lazy/indifferent whitey Bush!! When in reality they were victism of worthless incompetent local blacks and worthless incompetent demoNcrats like Blanco!!
By jbmlaw
October 25, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
Dear Glenn @ 11:06, an excellent question and I appreciate the obvious differences also. All neo-conservatives, in their world view, are committed to pursuit of individual freedom vis-à-vis the government ruling the region of the individual’s residence. Nixon and Kissinger were of the real-politik school, which merely pursues stability (and for the life of me I never saw how that differed in any meaningful way from Harry Truman’s policy of containment.) The Carter-Brzezinski policy was nothing more than Kissinger-lite, and otherwise indistinguishable from LBJ’s wimpy “come, let us reason together” approach. The late 1980s rise of neo-conservative philosophy finds its roots in Reagan’s confrontational challenge to the international enemies of individual freedom – notably stealing the words of JFK, but also following it up with actions. Both Presidents Bush can legitimately claim to have continued Reaganesque foreign policies; President Clinton, alas, mostly reverted to the foreign policy, or lack of same, of Calvin Coolidge, using power only when there was no particular American interest at stake.
As to your core question (was Nixon a neoconservative?), please recall that Nixon helped kill the foolish Keynesian school of economic thought by accurately proclaiming, “we are all Keynesians now.” No, Nixon was a neo-lefitst, abandoning the sound conservatism of his youth in favor of trendy big-governmentalism.
Special to TFTT, hope you saw this great essay by Christopher Hitchens yesterday, http://www.opinionjournal.com/federation/feature/?id=110010771. It sounds to me like something you might have written.
By The Man Show
October 25, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
Let’s face it: if this nation didn’t have diversity or race, class, and other social classifications, democrats and liberals would have absolutely nothing to whine about - let alone lobby for. Dick Morris has an outstanding column here breaking down what those quasi-communist goons on the left want for this nation: tax, tax, and TAX. Kiss the mortgage deduction goodbye, watch your capital gains tax skyrocket, and forget about handing over all of your estate to those who are the rightful heirs: your children.
Hope all you forward thinkers out there have your parachute close by; you’re going to need it with the increasing ignorance of the gimmie! gimmie! gimmie! Americans in this nation. To think the dirtbags on the left call rich and upper middle class Americans greedy. Finally, when hard working successful Americans start losing half of their discretionary income two years from now under Shrillary, watch the economy go into the toilet.
Perhaps this nation needs a checkup like that to snap back to reality. Then again, perhaps this nation is already just too far gone to dependency and complete incompetence of self-sustainment. Should all of this leaning towards Stalinism come through fruition, then let those who have worked hard all their lives for what they have move out of the nation and escape the insane taxation just as our forefathers did in the 1700s. God knows I’m pondering that for my future.
By getalife
October 25, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this
This why why you do not have water
Repent wingnuts.
By Mike
October 25, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
You just have to love the AJC’s front page headline today that says something like this: “Californians Learn From Katrina.”
Pardon my Mexican, but what a crock of bullsh_t. That’s just so typical of the apologist libs at the AJC.
The state of California and the local leadership of San Diego have always had a plan for disaster. Earthquakes, drought, fire; you name it, they’ve got a plan for it because they’ve BEEN THROUGH IT BEFORE. Even better, their PEOPLE are prepared for it. Do you think those folks out there don’t know the region they live in and are so incompetent that they can’t even step outside their homes and look at the sky without having some government entity tell them to do so? What, was Katrina the freaking first hurricane in the history of this nation to hit eastern Louisiana or something? Give me a damned break already, bedwetters.
The AJC really has a hard time when disaster strikes. Bless their bleeding liberal hearts.
By jbmlaw
October 25, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
Dear TMS @11:48, well-argued, my compliments.
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this
By time,
Where do you get this stuff? In just the past 10 years CA’s had two fires bigger than this one: the first took more structures, the second (five years ago) far more acreage. It’s not about San Diego. Look at the homepage of the CA Dept. of Forestry & Fire Protection. They’ll show you a satellite map, in near real time, of the fire, with colormetric indicators of which fuels lie in the paths of the fires, and of the flammability of those fuels. CA has a lot of experience with this stuff. And they plan and rehearse constantly, at all levels. Biggest threat is tinderbox trees from years of drought and bark beetle investation.
By phillipe17
October 25, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this
“This is why you do not have water:”
Wrong, bozo. Try federal government bureaucracies. You wingnuts on the left love government so much, it’s costing us hundreds of millions of gallons a day to keep some stupid fish and mussels alive downstream to keep the wingnut lib environmentalists happy. So typical of the left; destroy mankind to save a stupid animal or two. Repent yourself..
By Rita
October 25, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
The race and social class “cards” will always be played - that’s the way liberals want it. It’s not because Democrats care more about minorities and the poor, it’s about votes and bigger government - job security if you will.
Go deeper than race and money - it’s about personal responsibility, character, and compassion - people helping people - but that story isn’t as glamous to the liberal media.
There is actually another side of this story that no one has touched on. Add in the current mortgage fiasco to this region and you will find that many of the homeowners have interest only home loans.
I find it amazing that these victims are holding up as well as they are, with few complaints, aside from the current mess they are in!
By Adam
October 25, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
The reaction and response of local agencies in New Orleans vs San Diego is a direct result of the type of people elected to office in those communities. The people of San Diego expect their local government to be capable and responsible and elect officials that deliver competent services. Trained emergency response personnel, proper emergency planning, coordinated response are all the result of competent systems and procedures implemented in advance. The response of local agencies in New York following 9/11 was another example.
In contrast, the citizens of New Orleans elected a mayor and heavily assisted the election of a governor who evidently did nothing like San Diego or New York. If there was any comprehensive planning for the inevitable hurricane, there was no evidence of it. The mayor was nowhere to be seen, no evacuation plan implemented, large numbers of police and fire personnel deserted, no state response, but George Bush was the villain.
This is democracy in action and in plain view. Voters wanted a man like Nagin in office because they wanted to show their defiant independence of white conservatives. What they got was an inept, incompetent, lazy, irresponsible local government made up of patronage workers who didn’t have a clue when it came time for action. Did racial politics play a part??? Yes!!!
By time for the truth
October 25, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this
jbm
that’s Hitchens’ in his academic professor mode which he has to occasionally perpetrate to justify his stipend in nasal whining New Yawwwk City. Undoubtedly he is far wider read than I can ever hope/want to be. Often that can be more of a burden than a positive, in that the expectation is forever explicit, if not implicit that U have to endlessly (and smugly?) evince such erudition every time U hit the keyboard!!
Ultimately so much of such academic output is rehashed ‘navel gazing’, undeniably impressive to those who haven’t (previously) encountered it or familiarised themselves with the material. But ultimately often of little meaningful worth or import. These kind of articles are usually paid by the word - hence the searing verbosity. ‘Pretty’ to behold? Absolutely, but when distilled down to a few bullet points decidedly less impressive.
Hitchens has this obsessive, almost rabid hatred of Israel and its counter productive, increasingly disgusting tolerance of and restraint [toward] palestinian terrorists. Something he and I would NEVER be able to reconcile - I also seem to recall reading somewhere the lefty bastid is a fooking Chelsea F.C fan!! But he is ultra sound on religion, towel head terrorism, the liberation of Iraq and the crimes of the pardon selling Arkansas rapist and its white trash crew.
HItchens is much to be admired for his bulldog like balls in steadfastly standing up to hysterical appeasing leftist hate after siding with the clear thinking higher moral ground folks who knew Iraq and Soddom needed to be liberated!! But he is a life long inveterate leftist .. with all the bile and bewilderment that necessitates!!
By getalife
October 25, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this
When they gop wants to cut spending, this is the estimated cost of the Iraq occupation:
$2,400,000,000,000.
While they cut American children’s health care.
This is why you have no water.
Repent.
By time for the truth
October 25, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
glenn
tut tut …
U really should have waited for peeping tom to “bite”
but the crime/black dependancy and corruption/incompetence etc wasn’t a wind up!! THAT’S UNASSAILABLE FACT!!
By getalife
October 25, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
This comparison of disasters is moronic but look who wrote it.
Geez, not even close.
By ray
October 25, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
dittos adam.
cheney/satan ‘08
By Charles
October 25, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this
Let us never be confounded by this continuum. As long as Negroes refuse to take collective responsibility for their basic needs, food, clothing, shelter, employment, and education, etc., race and class will forever retard the progression of this country. Even the average Negro has an unfavorable opinion of Negroes in general; the rich, poor, so-called educated, and uneducated.
This attitude was born out mandatory integration, about 1970 in the South and years earlier in the North. Naturally, individuals respect groups of people who respect themselves as a group. Members of other groups will gladly service the basic needs of African Americans at the price of negative exploitation while offering lucrative benefits to selected individual sellouts.
Who can respect a group of people that don’t have a pot to p** in collectively? What soul can respect a group of people that have practically no physical institutions to service their basic needs, I pray you tell. Any sane person with character knows that a group of people can’t live on earth for long without physical institutions to support them mentally, spiritually, psychologically, and physically. Like members of other groups, I couldn’t adequately respond to the needs of a thoroughly dependent group of people during disasters or otherwise; and I’m an African American.
George H. Bush will come and go. But if African Americans continue to blame individuals for the questionable decisions each has made and white people, God forbid, instead of addressing their collective failure as a group which severely inhibits positive decisions and causes untold suffering individually, the only logical choice that Americans have is to measure response to disasters by race specifically and class in general.
By Curious Observer
October 25, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this
…the completely harmonious gathering of poorer folks in the San Diego NFL stadium where NO liberal media hysteria has been puked up about rapes/murders etc, in the Katrina like way
Sorry, but I missed the poorer folks in the TV pictures I saw. They all appeared to be refugees forced to abandon their million-dollar sanctuaries in the hills to come down to mix with the rabble—some with their pure-bred mutts in tow. But no doubt there was much gnashing of teeth about the fate of their four other SUVs left behind.
By time for the righteous truth again
October 25, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this
well - peeping tom did actually BITE!! although as ever it puked up its socialist envy and hateful LIES. Many of the folks who are at the NFL stadium and other large public shelters were there because they had NOWHERE else to go and couldn’t afford hotels etc. NOt all of them were white folks either!! Illegal mexican type leeches were getting free food etc… too!
Clearly the putrid pinKKO puke peeping tom delights in puking up deranged LIES about ordinary hard working thrifty Americans who UNLIKE THE HIPPETY HOP crowd are willing to pay for car insurance. peeping tom’s despicable dishonesty is freaking hilarious - just go to the hippety hop hoods in S Fulton/Clayton etc and see how many supposedly ‘impoverished blacks’ have newish cars/cell phones/plasma TV’s and other ‘luxuries’ liberals sneer at folks for having - yet NEVER EVER GO WITHOUT THEMSELVES>>
Just as the well the eco whacko nutter alSore didn’t have his energy guzzling mansion in S Kalifornia - else he’d have been left gnashing his obese dingy yellow (like his flaccic spine) wooden - but not rain forest of course - false teeth at all his burnt out gas guzzling SUV’s left in the dash for the nearest all you can pig out on comfort food buffet when the fire came!!
By Redneck Convert
October 25, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this
Well, I see you all ain’t got the problem solved yet. Leastwise TFTT said it about as plain as it can be said. Its Those People that are at fault. When you have good white Christian folk in a mess they come together and help each other. While Those People just kill and rob each other and set around and whine.
Its just a pity TFTT won’t except our invite to be a Ornery Redneck at Billy Bob’s. He thinks just like us, only with bigger words.
Anyway, me and my buddies was talking at lunch about how one of Those People in Congress want to let the tax cuts expire and put a 4% surcharge on people that make more than $150,000. This is the most terriblist idea I ever seen. If this goes thru one of these days I’ll be watching the Rev. Ernest Angley on TV and reach for my Red Man and there won’t be none there because I’ll be too poor to buy any because my tax bill went up.
Have a good day everybody.
By Ron Devine
October 25, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this
Where class comes into this, but not race, is in the ability of the California communities to help themselves both individually and collectively.
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this
Tat 4 Teet,
You’re right, I shoulda done. Am still a rookie at this.
Geez
By Jack
October 25, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this
The Man Show @ 11:48. Well said.
By jbmlaw
October 25, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
Dear TFTT @ 1:03, you mentioned our friend AlGore: did you see the little item in WSJ today – supposedly quoting an interview conducted by some CNNer named Miles O’Brien – that sounded like Al’s co-recipient of the Peace Prize may renounce it, as they are “humiliated” by association with Al’s Oscar-winning slide show.
John Cristy of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and a scientist at UA-Huntsville: “I don’t see very much effect in trying to scare people into not using energy, when it is the very basis of how we can live in our society.”
Also: “And when we build - and I’m one of the few people in the world that actually builds these climate data sets - we don’t see the catastrophic changes that are being promoted all over the place.”
Wish we had this for yesterday’s essays.
By Southern Democrat
October 25, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this
Jbmlaw @ 1:38,
Forgive me for my pithyness, but isn’t Dr. Christy (correct me if I’m wrong, please), the gentleman the right trotted out after the report by the IPCC in 2000 or 2001? I believe he agreed with the methodology, but not the conclusions or something, but was 1 scientist out of 150? Mrs. Southern Democrat would remember this better, but I think I am right and am too busy to supplement my faulty memory with Googling.
By jbmlaw
October 25, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
Apologies, I misquoted the CNN interview; Mr. O’Brien is “humiliated” by the complexity of nature, not by association with Al Gore’s movie. I apologize for my inadvertent deception. His exact, albeit indirect, language giving his reaction to the movie was, “it’s annoying to me” because of its certainty about what the climate is going to do.
The “humiliation” was in answer to the inquiry about the movie, and I mis-read.
By TW
October 25, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this
The Man Show @ 11:48 - thanks for the laugh. Always a hoot to hear the rightwing, home of the Deferment, whine about taxes during war time…
Who needs Al-Qaeda when you’ve got the Republicans?????????????
By Jack
October 25, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this
Still waiting on that list of accomplishments by the democratic controlled house and senate….oh I forgot, you can’t put anything on the list because they have done NOTHING.
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this
TW,
As I too detest Chavez, I was shocked by your comments re Rudy’s association with that dangerous buffoon. I’m ingnorant of this. What’s the connection between the two men?
By TW
October 25, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this
Glenn – odd that a strident supporter of Giuliani, such as yourself, would know nothing about his relationship to Hugo Chavez. Maybe you ought to hold off on declaring a front runner until you’ve done a little more research. www.google.com
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
SoDem,
I appreciate you turning me on to Sr. Helen Prejean! I’m reading one of her essays (“Would Jesus Pull…”), which is more than I bargained for. Am going to New Orleans soon and hope to hear her speak. You’re fortunate to have heard her. Thanks.
By Curious Observer
October 25, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this
Here ya go, Jackie. You asked what the Democratic Congress had accomplished, then proceeded to claim it was nothing. If you can read without moving your lips at the same time, you will see that the accomplishments would have been even greater if the Republicans had not used the filibuster and other obstructionist tactics to block progressive legislative. Now go FY and tell your lies some place else.
Democrats Passed First Minimum Wage Increase in a Decade.
Democrats Passed War Spending Bill that Included $6 Billion for Hurricane Relief.
Democrats Passed Wounded Warriors Bill to Upgrade Military Health Care and Provide a 3.5% Pay Raise for Our Troops.
Democrats Passed Legislation Out of Committee Providing the Largest Increase for Veterans Affairs Funding in History.
Iraq Supplemental Appropriations Bill Included Additional $1.8 Billion for Veterans’ Health Care.
Democrats Passed Bill to Implement 9/11 Commission Recommendations.
Democrats Passed Ethics and Lobbying Reform Bill.
Democrats Passed Bill to Cut Subsidies to Student Lenders and Provide $17 Billion in Grants and Other Student Aid. “
Democrats Passed a Bill to Better Regulate the Student Loan Industry.
Democrats Passed a Fiscally Responsible Budget. “Congress gave final approval on Thursday to a $2.9 trillion budget plan that promises big spending increases for education and health care and a federal surplus in five years… Democrats said their budget measure would put the government $41 billion in the black by 2012, after steady deficits since 2002.
Democrats Passed Energy Bill That Increased Fuel-Efficiency Standards for First Time Since 1975. package, which still must pass the House, would also require that the use of biofuels climb to 36 billion gallons by 2022, would set penalties for gasoline price-gouging and would give the government new powers to investigate oil companies’ pricing. It would provide federal grants and loan guarantees to promote research into fuel-efficient vehicles and would support test projects to capture carbon dioxide from coal-burning power plants to be stored underground.” [Washington Post, 6/22/07]
Meanwhile time after time the Senate Republicans have obstructed progress on America’s priorities:
Democrats Pushed for A New Direction in Iraq; Republicans Obstructed. On July 17 and July 18, Democrats held an all night debate to force a change of course in Iraq.
Republicans obstructed Democratic attempts to vote on the Levin-Reed Amendment 8 times. Republicans have obstructed progress on legislation calling for a change of course in Iraq 8 times earlier in the year. [Senate Floor Proceedings, 7/17/07-7/18/07; Senate Vote #241, HR 1585, 7/11/07; Senate Vote #171, HR 2206, 5/17/07; Senate Vote #167, HR 1495, 5/16/07; Senate Vote #117, HR 1591, 3/28/07; Senate Vote #74, S.J.Res. 9, 3/14/07; Senate Vote #51, S. 574, 2/17/07; Senate Vote #44, S. 470, 2/5/07; Senate Vote #43, S. Con. Res. 2, 2/1/07]
Democrats Tried to Pass a Minimum Wage Increase; Republicans Obstructed. On January 24, Republicans blocked a bill that would have increased the minimum wage to $7.25 per hour over two years. [Senate Vote #23, HR 2, 1/24/07]
Democrats Tried to Pass Tax Incentives for Clean Energy; Republicans Obstructed. On June 21, Republicans blocked an amendment that would have established $32.1 billion of tax incentives for alternative energy sources while imposing taxes on the oil and gas industry. The amendment would have created $3.6 billion worth of renewable energy bonds, established $11 billion in tax incentives for renewable energy and authorize $2.5 billion for the Secure Rural Schools and Community Self Determination Act. [Senate Vote #223, HR 6, 6/21/07]
Democrats Tried Twice to Pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform; Republicans Obstructed. On June 7 and June 28, Republicans blocked debate on comprehensive immigration reform. [Senate Vote #206, S. 1348, 6/7/07; Senate Vote #235, S. 1639, 6/28/07]
Democrats Tried to Pass Intelligence Authorization; Republicans Obstructed. On April 16, Republicans blocked consideration of the Intelligence Authorization bill, which would have authorized classified amounts in fiscal 2007 for U.S. intelligence activities and agencies including the CIA, the National Security Agency, the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency and the Defense Intelligence Agency. [Senate Vote #130, S. 372, 4/16/07]
Democrats Passed War Supplemental Funding Bill With Measures to Change Direction in Iraq; President Bush Vetoed the Bill. “President Bush used his veto pen for only the second time Tuesday after Congress sent him a war spending bill that would impose timelines to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq, which he called a ‘prescription for chaos.’” [NBC News, 5/1/06]
Democrats Passed a Bill to Expand Stem Cell Research; President Bush Vetoed the Bill. “President Bush yesterday vetoed legislation to expand federally funded embryonic stem cell research, saying that scientific advances now allow researchers to pursue the potentially lifesaving work without destroying human embryos.” [Washington Post, 6/21/07]
The Senate Republicans are on pace to reach new records for obstruction. It is worth noting the hypocrisy of the current minority on the issue of obstruction:
McConnell Called for Up-or-Down Vote on Republican Tax Package. “Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said all three elements of the bill could have survived simple-majority votes had they been allowed, and he accused the Democrats of being obstructionists. ‘How can we have bipartisanship in the Congress if Democrats won’t take ‘yes’ for an answer?’ he asked.” [Washington Post, 8/4/06]
McConnell Justified 60 Vote Threshold on Iraq Debate. “As I indicated, it had been my hope that we could have had the Levin Amendment and the Cornyn Amendment in juxtaposition, by consent, both requiring 60 votes. This has been the way we’ve dealth with I think essentially every controversial Iraq amendment this year, no matter what bill it’s been offered up upon.” [Senate Floor Proceedings, 7/16/07] McConnell Said It Was Absurd that Controversial Matters Should Not Be Decided by 60 Vote Threshold “Point number two, the suggestion that it’s somehow unusual in the Senate to have controversial matters decided by 60 votes is absurd on its face.” [McConnell Press Conference, 7/18/07] Senator Lott Called for An Up-or-Down Vote on 2002 Iraq War Resolution. “President George W. Bush yesterday agreed to narrow the terms of a congressional resolution authorizing military action against Saddam Hussein and offered what one lawmaker called ‘an olive branch’ to angry Democrats who have accused him of politicizing the issue…Lott, however, signaled that Republicans were not willing to negotiate much further, saying: ‘It’s time. We could wordsmith this to death.’ Lott said Republicans want an up-or-down vote on the resolution with no ability to offer amendments; Daschle said floor amendments are possible. [Newsday, 9/22/02]
Senator Lott Called for Up-or-Down Vote on 2002 Stimulus Package. “Lott called on Daschle to allow the Senate to cast a straight up or down vote on each party’s economic proposals. That would require a simple majority of 51, rather than the tougher, 60-vote hurdle.” [Chicago Tribune, 2/6/02]
Senator Lott Admitted GOP Was Using Obstructionist Tactics. “Is this obstructionism? Yes, indeed—according to none other than Lott. The Minority Whip told Roll Call, ‘The strategy of being obstructionist can work or fail. For [former Senate Minority Leader Tom] Daschle, it failed. For Reid it succeeded, and so far it’s working for us.’ Lott’s point was that a minority party can push as far as it wants until the public blames them for the problem, and so far that has not happened.” [Ornstein Column, AEI, 7/18/07] Senator Kyl Claims Democrats Won’t Allow Congress to Have ‘Serious Policy Debates.’ “We really ought to be asking why this Democrat leadership won’t allow Congress to move forward on serious policy debates,” said Kyl. “Americans have been disappointed by a majority leadership that stages one show debate after another, while the only consistent legislative work getting done is the renaming of post offices.” [Washington Times, 7/24/07]
However Senator Kyl Spearheaded the ‘Serious Debate’ Over Immigration Reform And Worked With Senator Reid to Revive The Debate. Kyl worked with Democrats to craft and have a ‘serious policy debate’ on the recent Immigration bill. Kyl also requested Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to bring the immigration bill back to the floor. Senator Reid said, “…Following the unsuccessful cloture vote on June 7, a group of Senators, including Minority Leader McConnell, Republican Conference Chairman Kyl and Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Specter, came to see me with a request that I bring the immigration bill back before the Senate…” [Arizona Republic, 5/10/07; Congressional Record, 6/27/07]
October 25:: The Senate will convene at 9:30 a.m. and will be in a period of morning business for up to 60 minutes, with Senators permitted to speak for up to 10 minutes each and the time equally divided with the Majority controlling the first portion and the Republicans controlling the final portion.
Following morning business, the Senate will resume consideration of S. 294, the Amtrak Reauthorization bill.
By getalife
October 25, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this
No Retroactive Immunity
Thank goodness for the left wing blogs.
Round two of SCHIP in the House now.
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this
jbm,
Thanks for answering the Nixon query. I’m afraid I completely agree with you again. Always figured Nixon and Rocky as the limolibs of Geeyopeedom. I’m still not comfortable using “necon” to describe any but the original crop. Want to chat some time about Zbig; much overlooked, complicated & strange person.
Don’t know what TFTT thought of Hitch’s essay, but I found it a right spiffing epistle. He’s still Anglocentric after all these years, though, and he downplays our significant incompatibilities with the J. Bull, off the field of battle. Oh well, the sodding atheist can still write like a demon. Want to get the Robt. Conquest book, too. Thanks again.
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
Curious Observer,
You’re absolutely right. Democrats do make distressingly hyperactive legislators.
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this
TW @ 2:19,
Know not where I was sleeping when the story broke. Took your suggestion to Google it. Looks like it’ll lead to a problem for him. Doesn’t diturb me so far, because although he’s sr. partner, he’s thrice removed from the Texas statehouse lobbying. But the press and public won’t see it that way, and I bet if I dig I can find some very ugly and comprehensive advocacy statements from Bracewell & Giuliani on behalf of Citgo worldwide. I’ll pursue it.
By Anonymous
October 25, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this
I assume Jack is about to apologize for his absurd claim that the new Congress has “accomplished nothing,” now that he’s been proven wrong.
Because that would be the fair and balanced thing to do, for a person driven by reason rather than ideology, right?
By jbmlaw
October 25, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this
Dear Southern @ 1:48, I fear I do not remember the incident you cite, but I am quite certain than anyone offered as rebuttal to the incontrovertible science of global warming would be “trotted out” by the right. That’s why faith in global warming is religion, and not science, correct?
Of course, the jbmlaw view of the world is that truth is not subject to a majority vote. I have to admit that your disbelief in anything emanating from the UN finds a warm spot in my heart, however. Have a great afternoon!
By Jackie
October 25, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this
@Adam
When you gave your opinion of Ray Nagin and Kathleen Blanco, it certainly appeared you were speaking of Bush and Cheyney. Your analysis was stunningly precise when it came to Dubya and his “gang.” What you fail to take into account with New Orleans was the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT owns and maintains the levies, the cause of the flooding in the city. What recourse did the local and state government have in cleaning up the mess the FEDERAL government had made?
By Adam
October 25, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
Jackie What recourse did the local and state government have?
How about an evacuation plan for starters. Instead Mr. Chocolate City headed for Dallas and left the citizens to fend for themselves.
By Anonymous
October 25, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
In the Garden of Eden sat Adam,
Complacently stroking his madam.
And great was his mirth,
For he knew that on Earth
There were only two balls, and he had ‘em.
By Analchord
October 25, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
Hillary 08
By getalife
October 25, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this
Did The White House Miss A Chance To Catch OBL Again?
Even fixed news say this is pathetic.
Geez.
By Jack
October 25, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this
Kiss off Curious Yellow.
By Kieran
October 25, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this
Rudy 08
By Analchord
October 25, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this
I’m Hillary 08 I am. Hillary 08 I am, I am. I got married to the Billy next door. He freed his willy seven times with ho’s and everyone was a Monica. He wouldn’t flash his willy at a Pam. I really hate my man I’m Hillary, Hillary 08 I am.
Second curse, He just flashed his nurse…
Hillary 08
By getalife
October 25, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this
Americans too often teach their children to despise those who hold unpopular opinions. We teach them to regard as traitors, and hold in aversion and contempt, such as do not shout with the crowd, and so here in our democracy we are cheering a thing which of all things is most foreign to it and out of place - the delivery of our political conscience into somebody else’s keeping. This is patriotism on the Russian plan. — Mark Twain
By Question
October 25, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this
Does anyone know if President G.W. Bush called Gov. Blanco of Louisiana as soon as Katrina hit?
Seems he was pretty quick about calling the Governor of California when he heard about the fires.
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this
The article to which you linked us is really & truly upsetting, in part because the writing is so vivid and powerfully punchy & clean.
What do you think will be the reaction in your camp if OBL is DOA or else it becomes clear that we and our allies are succeeding in pacifying Iraq? Seriously.
Rudy 08
By deegee
October 25, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this
I wonder when the FEMA trailers will arrive, dotting the magnificent landscape of San Diego and Malibu?
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this
For Shar again:
If Richardson instead of Barak ascends,
There’ll be no more talk of Oaxaca’s sins.
A New Mexican knows,
Before stepping on toes,
You’d best walk a mile in their mocassins.
By Kieran
October 25, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this
deegee,
Lot o’ FEMA trailers in coastal Monterey County following the ‘89 Loma Prieta quake. (Much nicer place than the beaches of SD & LA counties, except for La Jolla in SD.)
By Analchord
October 25, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
Great stuff, Glenn. Rare, Fresh air is so welcome. You have no idea. I dont even read the same hacked Rushannity that most here drop. Same every day all day. It’s numbing.
But I really shouldn’t criticize other bloggers, I dont know why I do, maybe it’s what happened to me during childhood. I was raised during the age of aquarius by two leos and a capricorn in the year of the rat. I was homeschooled, but it was a student exchange program, so I spent the entire seventh grade on the Concorde. By age three I had perfected six different ways to fake en passant during chess games. When I was four my mother found crude drawings under my bed which were later confirmed to be the first documented primitive choreography of a Chinese Fire Drill.
No, I had a weird childhood, and I should learn to accept others as I find them.
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this
getalife, forgot to address my 5:03, which was for you. Seriously sad read, mon.
By Me
October 25, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this
Man has tried unsuccessfully to tame the Mississippi River for 200 years. The river has left channels that were dug to straighten it out 100 years ago. In places the river has returned to it’s original course. Levees deprive flood waters of a place to disperse and exacerbate the problem. There is a book called Rising Tide. It’s an overview of flood control policy on the Mississippi for 200 years, especially the great 1927 flood. It is fascinating reading.
By Analchord
October 25, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this
Glen, you mispelled moron at 5:33
there I go again. You didn’t mispell moron, it’s just that getalife posts like one, and I thought for moment that you had a typo, but who am I to call getalife a moron? Well, technically I didn’t, but….I should just accept folks. My problem goes way back to my youth. I stayed pre-pubescent during my post-adolescence so that when I would streak a highschool basketball game, most people simply thought I was wearing a chia pet, and thus I was never prosecuted.
Maybe if I had been forced to take a fall back then I would’ve turned out different….
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this
Oldanarch,
Yes, I discovered a free online anagram generator! Good fun. I’m thinking of doing my own Bible Code thing from the pamphlets of the late Rev. Angley. That’s right. He’s returned to Heaven. It’s OK though. He’s in good hands. He’d taken the precaution of contracting with Mme. Tussaud’s for a full-body casting, and his faithful preserved the hairpiece, so the ministry continues — God willing, forever. I wrote to them to ask for any of his non-canonical writings, and all they sent me were some household notes. Who’d’ve thought that goy would love buttered knishes and chopped liver with schmaltz? Anyway, there’s some seriously important stuff in there if you’ve got access to the right software and know how to read between the lines. The Rev. Angely feared, in his last moments, that the world would not be ready for it. But I think it is.
Sorry to hear about your childhood.
Rudy 08
By Analchord
October 25, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this
Glenn, I stopped deciphering the biblical code years ago out of the fear I felt when I read how Rasputin predicted the Ice Capades. No wonder they poisoned him, then shot him, then drowned him, then dragged him throught the streets and finally dismembered him. The Horror!
Hillary 08. (just pretend I posted the song parody here)
By Glenn
October 25, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this
Anachronism, getalife’s not a moron. He’s a dupe, a fellow traveler, a useful idiot. But at least he doesn’t call people names. And besides, he keeps us apprised of events on the surface, via his psychedelic periscope aboard the Yellow Submarine.
The other day I realized I’d been attempting to correct the record — as if I care, or would know — and so I my superego sez, “Take it from me, id, it just ain’t worth da trouble.” (My superego’s a made memba.) So I sez to myself, I sez “Self,” I sez, “you gotta stop hagglin’ widdeez greenies who think dere’s still such a thing as a Democrat, and why botha wid Bush an’ Cheney who ah ahmost outta heah anyway?” ‘N’ so on. Then my ego goes, “What the hell’s with the dialect, Uncle Remus?”
So that’s about where I am now. No more fiddling while Dome burns, like Emperor Nagin did. I’d far rather play with my ukelele.
By Timothy Leary
October 25, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this
I spring eternal in the cyberworld of Wooten blog.
By getalife
October 25, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this
Glenn,
You are a Rudy lover.
What is the point responding.
That idiot wants guns for the blind.
Anyhoo, obl is not dead and they are running out of innocent people to blow up in Iraq. They have implemented the Biden plan themselves and their government is broken like ours.
Iran is the new boogie man in this election and Hillary voted yes.
The Clintons will win in 08.