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DEL.ICIO.USLimit tax giveaways to poor counties
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
State and local governments should be forbidden by law to offer financial incentives for development north of I-20 and within 50 miles of the Atlantic Ocean. We know that North Georgia and the coast will grow. Development will come. Not a dime of incentives extracted from taxpayers should be used as a lure in either area.
For example, Great Wolf Resort has announced plans to build a 400-room resort and conference center on 20 acres at Lake Lanier’s Mary Alice Park, including a for-guests-only indoor water park. The city of Cumming pledged $10 million in incentives for the project, the state added $6 million for road work and Forsyth County pledged $5.1 million for road improvements, for a total incentive package of $21.1 million.
(The county doesn’t have the money, but will ask for the $5.1 million in a project list for a proposed special-purpose local-option sales-tax referendum in February.)
Those incentives are absolutely unnecessary. Between 2000 and 2005, Georgia ranked third in the nation in population growth. Nationally, the population grew 5.4 percent; Georgia grew by 11.6 percent, outpacing traditional Sun Belt boom states of Texas (10 percent) and Florida (11.2 percent). As the good fiscal conservative, State Sen. Jeff Chapman of Glynn County observes, too, incentives are often given on promises that companies or developers will deliver certain things, but “typically there’s never any follow-through to validate if all those things promised come to fruition.”
Georgia should always remain business-friendly, but we’re no longer a beggar state and should stop acting like one. The emphasis now should be on managing growth and using financial incentives to direct it to areas where growth is sorely needed.
The state already has a tier system of counties ranked on jobs, income and growth potential. Tier 1 counties are the 71 neediest, based on 36 months of unemployment data, per capita income and the percentage of residents living in poverty.
The second tier are those ranking between 72 and 106. Tier 3 comprises the next 35, while Tier 4 counties are the state’s 18 most prosperous counties. For the most part, Tier 4 counties are in Metro Atlanta and points north. Together, tiers 3 and 4 would include most of North Georgia and the coast. Fulton is, however, a Tier 3 county, though the northern parts are well off. Some tweaking of the formula may be necessary so that within Tier 3 and 4 counties, growth incentives could be limited by census tract.
Taxing existing businesses and residents in hopes of luring businesses from somewhere else is, frankly, a practice that governors across the South should agree to abandon. In rare instances where incentives are essential, the incentives should be reserved for Tier 1 and 2 counties where growth is not assured. Tax giveaways are not necessary in either North Georgia or along the state’s coast, and should be ended.
Comments
By getalife
October 22, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this
Well Ga., at least you are not on fire like in SoCal.
Saw treason last night on 60 minutes
Couric: “Do you think President Bush was in on this?”
Plame: “I don’t know about that, but I, like most other Americans saw President Bush say on TV that he would fire anyone from his administration found to be involved in the leak of my name. It turns out, the president is not a man of his word.”
But it gets worse:
So if you have wondered why Joe and Val are a little p** off, this might help shed some additional light on the matter. Not only did the Bush Administration out a covert intelligence officer working on the most sensitive national security issues in a time of war, but when that officer faced a direct threat to her life and her family’s safety because of that public exposure, they did not do a g******* thing to help.
Disgusting.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this
Cheney outed Plame. He finally got even with Kerry for outing his daughter.
By jbmlaw
October 22, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. I have no problem with politicians giving away as much money as they wish, so long as they are not spending taxpayer funds. I suspect, however, when they “offer incentives,” they are generally not spending their own money. On the scale of intelligent government expenditures, corporate welfare ranks low. Are there counties so poor that it makes sense to spend government funds to attract private employers? Maybe I can rationalize upgrading infrastructure - roads, internet/communications, perhaps education vouchers if the general population is really stupid (maybe target blue census districts for vouchers.) I am less enthusiastic about more direct “incentives.”
By jbmlaw
October 22, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this
Dear Getalife, anytime you watch leftist television, you are watching treason in action. Do we have trouble staying on topic?
By getalife
October 22, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this
I’m Valerie Plame Wilson and I’m excited to be here and blog about my book Fair Game: My Life as a Spy, My Betrayal by the White House, which goes on sale Monday, Oct 22.
Buy the book so at least she will get paid.
By glenn
October 22, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this
Yeah, like she needed outing. (And ow come we never hear about his other dughter?)
I’m prepared to believe this Plame story, and like the poster said, “it fries my a$$”. Needs checking out, though. No mention of FBI, for example.
One hazard: too much conspiracy to commit fraud in the politicojournalistic industrial complex. Too much deadpan applause for the naked king. Craig is a straight man. Plame is a spy. Husband is a diplomat. Pigs can fly. Kerry is a war hero. Tailgunner Joe. Gore is a scientist. Go, king, go!
By getalife
October 22, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this
ambulance chaser,
You know I don’t read Jim’s drivel.
More important and interesting issues to talk about.
Have you seen Ron Paul’s new freedom bill? He was booed last night but still won the debate.
Well, him and Hillary.
What a bunch of losers.
Bwa.
By Redneck Convert
October 22, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
Well, I don’t know that I agree with Wooten. Up here in north Forsyth County we need a NASCAR track and I don’t see nothing wrong with using some state tax breaks to get us one. Right now we have to drive all the way down to Hampton just to see a race. Just think of all the gas us rednecks waste and the beer and whiskey tax money the county don’t get because we have to go someplace else to see Dale Jr. and Jeff and the whole bunch of Great Americans.
And we need a 4-wheeler trail. Just get on the road some weekend and watch how many pickups you see with 4-wheelers in them because they got to go someplace else to run them. We could be tearing up our own woods instead of somebody elses.
If we got money to throw away on Those People and doctoring for kids we got money to give Private Innerprize to build some things everybody can use. Like jbmlaw says its 100% certain everybody is going to die so why spend money on keeping them alive when we could use it for something everybody could enjoy?
Anyway, the state is real stupid about using tax breaks. Take that auto plant over near Columbus. The state give away a boatload of money just so a auto plant could be built that give jobs to people from Alabama. Just think of how proud you would be if you had visiters and could take them to a NASCAR track right near where you live. And you could tell them about the history of Forsyth and how we went and took the Last Stand against Hosea and a bunch of Those People that tried to invade us.
I hope everybody watched the Republican debates on Fox News last night. They sure are scared of this Hillary person. She must be as nasty as Sister Dusty to have them all talking about how bad it would be for America if she got elected. I got the impression she’s got some Male Equipment underneath that skirt and plans to use it on them and then use a knife to make them able to sing in a boys choir. They mentioned Hillary about 1,000 times and nary a word about bin Laden or the other towel heads.
Anyway, I don’t got much time. The Baptists sure made a wreck out of the bars I deliver to. Sunday must of had some powerful dry sermons. Have a good day everybody.
By getalife
October 22, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this
RC,
Yes, they are scared to death of Hillary but come to think of it, everything scares these people.
A powerful woman, minorities, Billiam the snowman, Islam, the law and Constitution, the dems, undercover cops in airport mens rooms or chat rooms, Craig, it goes on and on and on.
Geez.
By Jimmy Rhodes
October 22, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
Amen,we have too many yankees now.
By Craig
October 22, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this
“60 Minutes” is leftist television? Come on Counselor, let the talk show buffoons shriek that stuff - you know better.
By glenn
October 22, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this
jbm, I too was wondering what you’d make of loopy Ron Paul’s proposed, new and improved mega-FISA. getalife posted it last evening, near the end of the string.
As to Jim’s column, which IS on a smart and timely topic, my bottom line is that it would take regional governance that’s real. I can think of places where they have that: Seattle, Boston, San Diego. But in greater Metro Atlanta we’ve got divided gubmint, Rep. v. Dem. Not in this henhouse.
I hope Jim’s correct in today’s assumption: that restructuring public finance will do it. But gut sez must change governance simultaneously.
By Anonymous
October 22, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this
Congratulations, Wooten. This may be your first geniunely conservative opinion ever posted here.
By Craig
October 22, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this
I think it’s hilarious, getalife, how the fainting ladies of the GOP are swooning over that nasty Congressman Stark who said those awful things about their Dear Leader. Bunch of whiners.
By getalife
October 22, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this
Craig,
I watched that debate. The gop whined to have his words striked but the speaker said no.
It was hilarious.
By glenn
October 22, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this
Craig, the “fainting ladies of the GOP” touch is first-rate, but we were pointing out Fortney’s stark nakedness long before his fit of Political Tourette’s.
By getalife
October 22, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this
Not one word about OBL last night in the gop debate.
Like w, they gave him amnesty and declared an American woman the enemy.
How pathetic is that?
Geez.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this
Grading Wooten. B+
(There was no need to put the third paragraph in parentheses.)
Georgia will never stop using tax payer money to subsidize private or commercial development. It’s the american way, and why all the money ends up in the hands of the few. Capitalism doesn’t work without pirates, it just doesn’t.
By glenn
October 22, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
How much will a given development bring in, in tax revenues and [e.g. developer] fees? If they’ve got the (prospective) money to invest in the ride, then it’s OK to let them into the showroom and cut them a deal. As long as the dealer comes out ahead. Jim’s right that Georgia’s wheel have gone from a mondo-bondo skankmobile to a late-model sedan. The dealership could do with a reorg.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this
And you could use a new filter.
By glenn
October 22, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this
Like I said, y’all’re welcome.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this
The Gubernatorial Goober issued another water saving decree: “All fraternity party revelers will only fill their water balloons half full. Any violaters will be put on double secret probation.”
By catlady
October 22, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
his fit of Political Tourette’s.
Glenn, that is a classic! I plan to use that phrase “liberally”!
To Mr. Wooten’s opinion: there is way too much giving away of public money to benefit private interests; yet, like sheep, we accept it.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this
Wooten’s title has two meanings: Limit tax giveaways to poor counties? Does that mean lessen the amount of tax giveaways given away to poor counties, or focus all the tax giveaways only to poor counties?
The body of the article lets us know. But you really have to pay attention. Getalife, if you dont want to read and comment on Wooten’s article, then dont blog. Your smell-vision of reality is innappropriate and children should not be exposed to it. I think it’s just a shame that your mother didn’t raise you to be a nicer and more informed girl.
Either stay On Topic or just Stay away.
Alles sprechen der moronheimer
By Worth repeating:
October 22, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this
Not one word about OBL last night in the gop debate. Like w, they gave him amnesty and declared an American woman the enemy. How pathetic is that? Geez.
If you support the Republicans in next year’s national election, you are supporting amnesty for Bin Laden, just as you have been since the invastion of Iraq (aka “not bin laden”) for the last five years. Time to get the traitors out of Washington, and get someone in there who actually cares about the American people!
By jbmlaw
October 22, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
Dear Glenn @ 9:17, I remain unaware of, and frankly uninterested in, Mr. Paul’s privacy proposal. I have previously argued that government surveillance alone does not offend my sense of privacy. So long as we adhere to the traditional restrictions on government - that any information and derivatives obtained without traditional 4th Amendment protections shall remain inadmissible in any criminal action, and publicly undisclosable under any other circumstance – let the cameras roll. As these efforts are all used only to attempt to identify Islamists and preclude acts of terrorism, I hold no objection.
The hypothetical that some of my libertarian associates raise is, yes, but what if Hillary extends the surveillance to purely domestic opponents of her regime? My answer – I don’t care, we’ll use her anti-Americanism against her at re-election time. For now, I don’t think any rational person can object that any effort by President Bush’s administration to spy on Islamists offends any intelligent concern. I think we ought to have a court hearing before attaching monitoring devices to the ankles of suspected Islamists, but I am astounded that we are not endeavoring to so-attach devices.
By glenn
October 22, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
Finch egg, good catch on the double meaning. In public finance they have a saying: “An auto mall is the grand slam of land use.” Refers to internecine warfare among local governments raiding the tax wealth of neighboring local governments. Drives sprawl, much. Jim’s smart to take this vantage, and to take the trouble to take incentives/disincentives seriously. At least that’s my take. I’ll take a break now.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
Worthrepeating, your self serving ID promises better comments, but you failed to deliver. Try advancing the discussion to: “What do we do now that we’ve started ww4?”
or is it ww3? Dammit, I always get my doomsday scenarios mixed up. I hate myself. I hate the world. Nuke Iran!!
By CJ
October 22, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
“Taxing existing businesses and residents in hopes of luring businesses from somewhere else is, frankly, a practice that governors across the South should agree to abandon”
Great column Jim. I wholeheartedly agree.
Restating your highlighted comment—when tax incentives/cuts are provided to some, then the rest of us have to make up the difference. We need to keep this in mind when analyzing any and all tax proposals coming out of the state legislature in the next session.
By getalife
October 22, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
Look what w and gop have done to this country for Ron Paul to have to introduce this bill:
“This legislation seeks to restore the checks and balances enshrined in the Constitution by our Founding Fathers to prevent abuse of Americans by their government. This proposed legislation would repeal the Military Commissions Act of 2006 and re-establish the traditional practice that military commissions may be used to try war crimes in places of active hostility where a rapid trial is necessary to preserve evidence or prevent chaos.
The legislation clarifies that no information shall be admitted as evidence if it is obtained from the defendant through the use of torture or coercion. It codifies the FISA process as the means by which foreign intelligence may be obtained and it gives members of the Senate and the House of Representatives standing in court to challenge presidential signing statements that declares the president’s intent to disregard certain aspects of a law passed in the U.S. Congress. It prohibits kidnapping and extraordinary rendition of prisoners to foreign countries on the president’s unilateral determination that the suspect is an enemy combatant. It defends the first amendment by clarifying that journalists are not to be prevented from publishing information received from the legislative or executive branch unless such publication would cause immediate, direct, and irreparable harm to the United States.
Finally, the legislation would prohibit the use of secret evidence to designate an individual or organization with a United States presence to be a foreign terrorist or foreign terrorist organization”
The Clintons never did this kind of crap.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
Oh brother. I have no idea what that clown just said. He’s too hip for the pulpit. uh, er, thanks, mister…..
bwa
alles sprechen der murunheimer
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this
Getalife, I thought I told you to get lost. Nobody reads your manifesto length unithumber insertations. Try to stay within the 25 words or less guidelines I’ve established as fair for all.
Otherwise, beat it.
Alles sprechen der murunheimer
By Christian to Bligh
October 22, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
Trained flea, it means that if the statehouse takes away the counties’ play money, they’ll turn on each other with a new rapaciousness. It’s a sort of peckerwood game theory. Put yourself in their shoes. They don’t see things strategically; a local government’s perspective is by definition parochial. As players in the game of finance, they will respond immediately to the revenue loss by looking for ways to backfill the lost revenues. Since they’ll have to find sources other than the state, they’ll attempt to steal each other’s revenues, e.g. sales and parcel taxes and user fees generated by new development. The easiest way to lure or “program” new development in your county is to steal the neighboring county’s big-footprint commerce. Hence auto malls. There is no net gain for Georgia. Only more sprawl.
By TW
October 22, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this
Each of the candidates last night should have been given a medal for showing up at a Republican debate without a bag on their head.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this
Oh. Well, that’s a horse of a different color. Why didn’t you say so in the first place? You’ve passed the test for entry into my think tank. Come on in.
(Camera to me, pretending not to be scratching my balls, looking askance, yet obliquely contourial…..and totally fooling everyone that I’m not the wiz…..)
You make no sense. Like you would know about revenue allocation of the fatbellies in the good old boy network what got Perdue in power.
You’re trying too hard. There’s too many words. Simply take some out, and your comments will be perfect, Kapelmeister.
By getalife
October 22, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this
It is amazing how they block out and ignore what the gop have done in their time of power.
Insane thinking there will be a different outcome. The gop will stay the course in the destruction of our country, ignoring the Constitution, the rule of law and keep stealing freedoms thousands of the greatest generation have died for.
Unbelievable.
By Jack
October 22, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this
It’s really amazing how much this Democratic controlled congress and senate have accomplished since they took office.
Still waiting on that list Dem’s.
By Bard
October 22, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this
Look, “you frayed tassel of a profligate’s purse”, the point is that whether he knows it or not, Jim’s driving an argument for a regional governance structure that has teeth. If you see such a structure as foreclosed by grafting among the good-ole’ boys who’ve given us a statesworth of strip malls and design-build tilt-ups with funny hats, then kindly (or unkindly) say so. By your reasoning, drawn from what you’ve said already regarding my beloved potbellied plutocrats, Jim’s a fool for floating this proposal at all.
Doesn’t matter, but in response to your characteristic ad hominem, I spent several years as a consultant on local government finance. So as it happens I do have some sense of how screwed up things can get, ‘cause I’ve done some of the screwing-up myself.
By Bard
October 22, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this
getalife, yeah, looks that way. Wouldn’t it be good to stop them doing it? I’ll take ‘em from the inside, you from the, er, out. Ready…
…BREAK!
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this
Oh Yeah, smart guy? Now you listen: I’ve screwed up more things than you ever will. Capiche?
The problem is not in our czars, but in our elves. (dumbledork)
By glenn
October 22, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this
Looks to me from the cheapseats like our present water problems are structurally similar to the state/local dynamic Jim sets up today, only the water thing is instead a federal/state dynamic. Feds set the states a-fightnin’ ‘mongst themselves, and fail to set up a police, a structure of regional cooperation with federal input.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
Water flows downhill. Sea level finds it’s own waves. The wolf howls at midnight. Fatbellies bellow up down the staircased franchises of the strip malled hinterlands.
‘miffed spread
By time for some semi-serious fun at aborted foreskin's expense again
October 22, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this
By Analchord
October 21, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
I cannot fully express in words the fear that I feel after receiving so many unveiled threats of violence and death from tftt. I warned Wooten about this, and indicated to the AJC that a lawsuit is pending and imminent. For a while, it appeared that wooten had corralled this fiend, but I guess that was just wishful thinking on my part. We are at war with terrorists who threaten to kill americans everyday all day. The fear I felt on 911 is still with me, and when I read death threats from tftt, during this time of war, the fear is renewed, and I experience horrible episodes of 911 flashback and consternation and depression. I can only report it to the Homeland security, and initiate legal action against the host, AJC.
I have a family, and I am very afraid of some unstable blogger like tftt, who appears to be very adept with computer hacking, actually stalking me in person, and committing acts of terrorism. I have no choice but to take legal action, and urge the criminal courts to prosecute. You simply cant threaten to kill americans during a time of war. It’s just not acceptable on any level. I think it’s treason, but I’m not a lawyer.
I am very afraid, and I have been forced to live with this fear, which keeps me awake at night, for months and months and months because of this terrorist who attacks me on this blog every single day. I dont know who he thinks he is, but there is no reason for it, and I am not forced to take the legal remedies afforded all americans.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ….
THIS IS FREAKING HILARIOUS!!!
Someone needs to get an adult to read a definition of a “death threat” to aborted foreskin!! Witty sharp comedic, deliberately OTT banter … on an anonymous blog … is NOT a death threat!!
Anyone who despicably LIES about being “kept awake for months” by occasional anonymous comedic banter by a total stranger on an anonymous blog is very likely a cowardly moral fascist despicably trying it on. Either trying to disgustingly intimidate a political opponent who quite reasonably despises the anal/leftist bollocks it pukes up or its arguably the most mentally fragile nutter on the AJC boards and is someone who has NO business bantering/posting on a blog filled with very adult material/ personal abuse/very sharp banter day after day … notably managed with NO ONE else WHINING AND BLEATING like this about the comedic material posted about various folks!!
Anyone who actually has the sick and twisted gall to try and link the murderous 9/11 outrage with occasional BLATANTLY OBVIOUS lets yet again goad and wind the cry baby wanker up today sneers/taunts etc needs immediate mental health assistance!!
The abject snivelling LIE about “death threats” is just fabulous entertainment!! IF ANY serious credible “death threats” were EVER posted the instigator would VERY PROPERLY be immediately dealt with by the AJC … not some weak minded anal retentive loser looking to prevent free speech within the ‘rules’ long established/tolerated on here!!!
for the anal loser aborted forekin to pathetically even attempt to DENY the right of ANYONE on here to express their comedic shtick - in whatever form they choose - is the height of moral fascist hypocrisy!! Especially when aborted foreskin has repeatedly puked up sexually explicit bollocks and other equally potentially (to sheltered folks) offensive material …
Given that aborted foreskin has far more dumbarse ids on here than a Klinton lies under oath it is impossible for ANYONE to know whether aborted foreskin is the one ‘secretly’ puking up visceral hate against whomever!!
I have VERY PROUDLY seen a good number of posts on here from a number of the sadly resident leftist vermin on here wishing me death/physical harm or whatever, with usually the most visceral usually f aggot centred abuse imaginable … to me ITS HILARIOUS!!! Why get upset over a “job” well done!!!
Sharp even very sharp banter - with cartoon like violent imagery is widely used on countless blogs all over the internet. Whether aimed at public targets like Bush and Cheney or aimed at presenting blog personas who take an (instant) personal/political dislike to one another.
It is beyond pathetic that any supposedly mature adult who claims repeatedly to be some kind of anal retentive pathologically unfunny comedian (judging from the witless material regrettably posted on here) can resort to such despicable lies/paranoia in an attempt to prevent perfectly fair comedic comment about its unremitting wretchedly unfunny (yes that’s clearly subjective of course) bollocks.
AS stated before if ANYONE wanted to hunt down aborted foreskin all they have to do is attend some lame lefty comedy club in Atlanta where it apparently claims it attempts its ‘material’ on amateur/loser night. With well over a year’s presence now on this blog and with my having made NOT the slightest attempt to find out who any of my lefty enemies are - let alone seek out foreskin the emptiness of aborted forskin’s seemingly HIGHLY CONTRIVED paranoia becomes ever more evident.
There are a number of folks who continuously “stalk” yours truly on here with often visceral abuse … (just as I wittily and amusingly do them) and undeniably there are far more folks who also “stalk” others on here, day after day after day … all day long!! Often with the same leftist dickhead using countless ids to dig at one political opponent they depise!! Ask Dusty, jbmlaw or RCH among others - no bleating or whining from any of them of course - OR ME!!
It’s HARMLESS “fun” … hand it back - ignore it, rise above it - whatever … but don’t be a snivelling pu$$y about it!!!
The cold hard truth of this is that aborted foreskin has NO answer for my occasional witty amusing merciless jibes at its richly deserved expense - it obviously isn’t used to being quite reasonably sneered at and upbraided for its drivel on what IS JUST A BLOODY BLOG FOR CHRISTS’S SAKE. Its either very weak minded or as stated very cynically trying to intimidate a much (comedically) worthier opponent!!
If its just cynically after money it will fail abjectly too!!
So, it reasonably seems to me, that aborted foreskin is gutlessly lashing out using the cowardly threatened ‘legalistic’ route because its just incapable of actually bantering back!! If it chooses not to banter back as naughtily and horridly as it likes - fine - either way I could care less!!
My latest so called non existent “death threat” wasn’t actually even aimed at aborted foreskin!! I explicitly left this sad little bleater out of it, in case it went crying to teeeecher again!! AND IT DID!! Showing yet again how dishonest it is!!
I ASK IT AGAIN. How come foreskin NEVER EVER comments on or whines about the unremtting visceral far left hate on here!! Which I merely have fun mirroring harmlessly back!!
For me this is GREAT fun … anonymously winding up some inadequate loser like this is cyber sport at its best!!!
My ‘cyber persona’ is deliberately maximised to enrage as many lefty sum as possible … I have stated this frequently - and this moron just doesn’t WANT GET IT!!! Its being wound up … and it can’t take it!!
Just ignore what U don’t like/find funny etc on here folks … Move on or F OFF!! (gedditt??)
Cheers from the English Tory regularly called ‘time for noose’ by a lefty a while back with NO threat of any kind a law suit from me - the original - despite numerous anonymous homosexual stalkers using my id for visceral personal abuse - time for the truth!!
I fervently trust aborted foreskin will show this post to his homosexual ambulance chasing trainee paralegal!!! …huge smirk
By Foreskin won
October 22, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
Foreskin 1, time to pass gas 0
He got you to waste about 250,000 words.
By Fletcher
October 22, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this
Not bad, eh?
By Ronald Weasley
October 22, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
Bloody brilliant is more like it!
By Smitty Werbenmanjensen
October 22, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this
I’m No. 1! Now where’s my soda drinking hat?
By Curious Observer
October 22, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this
Sorry to see that TFTT is once again displaying its usual case of the DTs after a weekend blow-out.
I wouldn’t be hurt at all to see the complete elimination of the practice of offering state incentives to relocating businesses. Why should I have to pay extra so that a few dozen rednecks can get some low-wage jobs purchased at the price of funding more worthy state programs? Let the rednecks, who voted for the Republicans who are creating all the economic misery, suffer the consequences of their actions.
We already have enough corporate welfare. Get the state out of this sordid business. In essence, the state is telling prospective employers, “We’ll let you off the hook on taxes if you’ll hire our sorry-azz, ignorant trash.”
By time for the Allah says I MUST hate aborted foreskin and I want to rip his transplanted lungs out tr
October 22, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this
SNIGGER SNIGGER SNIGGER
I … got to once again sneer at the gormless little pu$$y, exposing its shameless cowardly anal retentive threats whilst wittily making a “mockery” of ‘discovery’!!!!
I don’t know whether aborted foreskin is anally persuing an anal law suit - or not. Like a bleating cowardly archetypal little leftist sh!t it keeps anally threatening to. But it sure is fun pretending to humour the sad little mo fo (as opposed to po fo!)
Time to blow the sad shameless LYING turd anal foreskin up using stale Iraqi semtex in an anally injected IED made out of the guts of disabled homosexual camels all trying to be vainglorious amateur wankpig comedians at Soddom’s Neck Was Stretched Comedy Klub in downtown Basra!!
By Jackie
October 22, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
John Bolton, one of the darlings of the neo-cons, published his book stating that Dubyas foreign policy “…is in somewhat of a freefall.” He went further in statements to expound on his efforts to undermine the initiatives of Colin Powell’s secret discussion with other nations and parties in discussing a means and methods in limiting Iran’s nuclear weapons. He said that Condi’s diplomatic efforts with the Palestinians were a “waste of time.” Further published reports indicate a psychologist indicates Dubya has a neurological condition that speaks to his need for making the rules in a situation and when the events are not to his liking, he changes the rules in the mid-stream. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said “we do not have sufficient ground forces to fight another major conflict.” How are we going to stop the Turks from attacking the Kurds? What will we do when Israel strikes the Iranians, “on our behalf?” Will we be able to call on one of our 24 strategic partners in Iraq to help us defend our “national strategic interests” after the President of Iraq called General Petraeus to his office to complain of the killing of women and children?
By Fletcher
October 22, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this
CO, sounds like a plan. But if the state pulls out the locals will devour each other like the Southeast Asians did.
By Fletcher
October 22, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this
Jackie, what would you say to putting Bolton in place of Condi forthwith?
By jbmlaw
October 22, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this
Dear Jackie the Jew-baiter @ 1:38, you express distress about the president’s “need for making the rules in a situation and when the events are not to his liking, he changes the rules in the mid-stream…” You never met an MBA before, have you?
By getalife
October 22, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this
Meanwhile, w is begging for another 42 billion to waste in Iraq. Lets cut American children’s health care.
Geez.
By Fletcher
October 22, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this
jbm, as my old friend Frank Fat used to say, “dassa gootwong!”
By Glenn
October 22, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this
getalife, I thought it was something like $108B! What to me is even more disturbing is his statement that he wants the first contingent “home by Christmas”. Born in the late Baby Boom, by 1973 I could never remember a time when the presidents, the brass, the Secretaries of State were not promising to “bring them home by Christmas”. That’s precisely how a whole generation learned, growing up, that politicians, like lawyers (jbm excepted), are professional prevaricators. Bush’s saying that not only gives me the creeps, it gives me the willies and the heebeegeebees too.
By Jackie
October 22, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this
@jbmlaw,
Pardon the partial post as I hit the wrong key in my haste to respond to you. To continue my dissertation, BA’s, MBA’s and Ph.D’s, CPA’s, JD’s are prominent in my family, relatives and friends, thank you. As for you, I would think that you need to take refresher courses. Now, what was that you were saying about Dubya and his diagnosed condition? Did that come close to describing you?
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
Hillary 08
By Jackie
October 22, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this
@Fletcher,
I would say the results would be exactly the same with John Bolton in Condi’s position. Everything goes through Cheyney. It matters not.
By Sister Boom-boom
October 22, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this
Heard the one about the gay terrorist?
By Fletcher
October 22, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
Jackie, how come you think Bolton couldn’t stand up to the omnipotent Cheney, Napoleon of Crime?
By Jack is Back
October 22, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this
Yo JMBDUMMY, critizing jews is not and should not be forbidden, especially given the hundreds of billions of american tax dollars that have been diverted to Israel over the last three decades, and the fact that our problems with Arabs and Muslims stems directly from our fanatical support for israel. The fact of the matter is that fanatical pro israel jews police the internet, complaining loud and often of any critizism of israel or jews. I do not see catholics, muslims, hindus or any other religion doing such policing. Jews need to stop hiding behind the holocaust, stop stealing american tax dollars for israel, and stop attacking any arab country they disagree with. The constant drum beat against Iran is coming from Israel and American jews, and is as big a double standard as I have ever seen, given that Israel is known to have over 300 nukes, and their reactor is not under international control or observation. Why is what is ok for Israel to do not also ok for Iran to do?
By Fletcher
October 22, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
Rudi ‘08.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this
Jackie, I took the CPA exam, but failed it. In fact, when I showed up early back at the firm they all got a laughed at me for coming back from the test so soon. They laughed at me and my inner bookkeeper was hurt bad, mommy.
It’s not nice to laugh at folks.
By Jackie
October 22, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
@Fletcher,
Dick Cheyney knows which behind the secene political levels to pull and he has Dubya to back him in his criminality. Under any circumstances, Cheyney would have to be accountable to someone who was interested in providing political leadership to the this country. Sadly, we have someone at the administrative head of our supposed three equal branches of our government whose ego will not allow him to see past his nose. The “Decider” has made his decisions and does not have the other branches of government to make him live up to his constitutional responsibilities. Nancy Pelosi should not be speaker of the House next term. She has NO backbone.
By Thurston
October 22, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
Jackie @ 2:12,
Naturally, old dear. Who else would you know?
Gotta go. Rain’s stopped and I’ve got a tee time.
Ta!
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
Fletcher 07….double 07….he’s a bum…..lame bum……
By Jackie
October 22, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this
@Analchord
I took the pre-CPA exam and have never felt some mentally whipped in my life because of 6 questions.
By Jackie
October 22, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this
@Thurston,
It is apparent I do not know your old hip, dear!!!! It is something when you have mental midgets run in a drop their pants without wiping themselves. My mother would say about folks like yourself, “you ain’t the smartest thing that ever sat behind a pair of shoes…”
By Fletcher
October 22, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this
Sphinterous one, don’t bum me out.
Jackie @2:29, precisely. Now do tell, which are the behind-the-scene levers?
As for the Speaker In-/Recumbent, she should be replaced tomorrow with a Dem. falling somewhere on a spectrum bounded by center-left Harmon and leftist Waxman, either of whom would be a far heavier hitter than Pelosi and either of whom, hailing from Nan’s own state caucus, would keep the regional spoils intact. Backbone? Backbone? Hell, she’s as cartilagenous and brainless and dangerous as a shark*, backrolling its eyes and striking blindly.
*again, no offense, jbm
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this
Fletcher, I’m not shakin’, but you belong in the stir.
By Thurston
October 22, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this
Jackie @ 2:38,
Bless your mother’s heart.
Kidneys and gall bladder too.
Mommies are so handy when the boogyman’s under the bed.
By Joker
October 22, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this
Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?
By Fletcher
October 22, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this
Thank you, Bligh.
By getalife
October 22, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
“Dodd screws up:
Senator Chris Dodd on Thursday single-handedly blocked a bill to legalize unconstitutional spying and immunize criminals who have engaged in it. But by doing so, Dodd may have made the biggest blunder Washington has seen in many months. He advertised the fact that a single senator with nerve has the power to block a bill, including – of course – every bill to further fund the occupation of Iraq. Now, how will Dodd explain his past and future failure to use the same power to end the war that he has used to end warrantless spying? How will other senators, including Harry Reid, explain their own failure? How will Nancy Pelosi manage to keep asserting in every conversation that only 67 senators can end a war?”
Oops, must be running for President and getting desperate.
Geez, I wonder if our government is broken?
By Yusef al-Islam
October 22, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this
Brothers,
Sisters also on this great day,
Allah Akbar! Today the Sheik has blessed us again, through his oracle al Jazeera, with a Divine fatwa through the Prophet, may he be praised. It is my sacred privilege, insha’Allah, to summarize it for you, as follows:
All true Muslims of the Kingdom of Nebuchanezzer are forbidden to visit death upon their brothers and sisters. No longer may they explode clean Muslim bodies other than their own. No longer may they employ the devices of the Infidel to execute any Muslim not found in violation of the Divine Sharia as disclosed by the Prophet, may his memory be a blessing. Neither are they to kill Muslim children including their own, except for plaintive children, who may, on days other than holy days, be put to the scimitar that has been rusted in the blood of the she-goat and blessed.
All true Muslims of Babylon are to exterminate the infidel invaders of the holy place of the Third Mosque and all false Muslims crouching outside that place like hungry lions. These demons include all devils in arms with the Great Satan, all Turks clothed in the dress of the wicked ones, all Kurds, and all Jews as always.
May the Peace of the Prophet be upon you.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this
Tie that man to the yardarm!
Hillary 08
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this
Hillary 08
By Yusef al-Islam
October 22, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
Rudi ‘08
By getalife
October 22, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
$330 million a day wasted in Iraq.
Your kids will pay this debt so lets cut their health care.
Geez.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
Okay, that’s it, Wetmywipe, if you blog, “Geez” one more time……..go head, make my day…….punk……
By Glenn
October 22, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
getalife, you might use “Sheesh” or, out of respect to Chas. Shulz, “Oh brother”, or else simply “F*k this $hit.”
By Captain Freedom
October 22, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this
THE Captain arrives late to today’s party and trusts he does not re-tread well trod ground in expressing his wholehearted endorsement of Mr Wooten’s thesis of the day.
It is of course insanity to continue to pour good money after bad into the poorer counties of Our State. It is surely Common Sense Right Thinking to limit the communistic giveaways to those dens of inbreeding, laziness, and ignorance that have failed to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps by now. If we continue to pour our illegally confiscated wages-unto-taxes towards these illbred hillbillies — and their cousins, the pineywoods peckerheads — we squander the very foundation of Our Wealth and Power. By all means, Wooten!!! We MUST limit the funds we award these useless wretches.
For if we mollycoddle the ingrate ne’er-do-wells of places like Henry, Bleckley, and Effingham Counties, how can we resist the call to provide relief to Those People who are dragging down the averages in Fulton and Dekalb??
THE Captain asserts that it is a waste to offer assistance to these underachieving cesspools of non-produtivity.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this
No, glenn, if getalife was a clever man there are some really entertaining things he could do with the fact that he’s established, “Geez” after every blog, but he has no talent for riff, like you do, by the way.
Not bad, not bad at all. A new addition to the act? We’ll see. Remember, it’s not enough to be droll, you gotta be sardonic.
most aint
By Fletcher
October 22, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this
Captain, whatsay we cut back their allowance, attach conditions of performance, and keep cutting until either (a) the conditions are met or (b) they’re left without a cent from the state?
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
I think the Captain wrapped up this topic quite well. To him belongs the blog of the day award.
I’m Hillary 08 I am. Hillary 08 I am, I am. I got married to hillbilly next door, he freed Willy seven times with ho’s. And everyone was a monica, he wouldn’t flash a dorothy or a pam. I really my old man I’m hillary. Hillary 08 I am!
By Yusef al-Islam
October 22, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
It is the will of the Sheik that the infidel Jooli al-Anni become, insha-Allah, King of the home of the Great Satan. For it is written that this infidel shall bring death to the Great Satan by foolishly coming against those who submit, inviting complete victory for the armies of Mohammad, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, and ushering in the perfect reign of the Last Prophet, who will sit upon the Throne of Mecca and feast on the jawbones of the children of the Infidels.
Salaam
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
We get the bit, Mah hah.
Remember that bit the three stooges did that rocked in the forties? Mahah? Ahah!
We have been mercilessly making fun of arab culture for a long time. They simply dont like us.
If we want peace, we need to embrace Islam, and display affection and reverence for it. We need to convince the Islamics here in the USA that we respect them and their Allah, and they’re right to worship as they please.
If not, we’re finished.
By Fletcher
October 22, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this
A stiletto artist named Hillary
Attempted to make herself great.
But though narrowly dodging the pillory,
Still she lost to Rudi in ‘08.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this
There once was a blogger from kent….
By Fletcher
October 22, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
Though Hillary’s dreams were palatial,
The response from the voters was glacial.
When she offered them Mother,
They saw Orwell’s Big Brother
(Not to mention Bill’s misdeeds fellatial.)
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this
Great stuff, Fletcher!
By Jackie
October 22, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this
@Thurston,
It is apparent I do not know your old hip, dear!!!! It is something when you have mental midgets run in a drop their pants without wiping themselves. My mother would say about folks like yourself, “you ain’t the smartest thing that ever sat behind a pair of shoes…”
By Jackie
October 22, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this
@jbmlaw,
I say to you everyday, you should constantly check with Wal-Mart to see if they are having a sale on the batteries they need for you nose. BLINK, BLINK, BLINK!!!! I am amazed that a person of your intellect would constantly repeat that same drivel and expect someone to believe it. It does not work and you keep trying it. Is that a classic definition of insanity?
By Art Sammish
October 22, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this
Before we go all disrespectin the ragheads, you’re right, we got a lot to learn. But not about their $hit, about OUR $hit. We already got il bambini playin Raghead for a Day in those youth tenements that pass for schools. You ask me, that $hit can wait. For now screw what THEY’RE all about. We don’t even know what WE’RE all about. We got kids in uniform getting shot up when they couldn’t tell you the difference between Hamburger Hill and a hamburger dill. The bomb sausages say they hate Western Civilization, and we outlawed teaching that s** when the lezbos took over. Our troops may know what they’re fighting against, but they don’t know enough about what they’re fighting for. That’s cause not enough of us can name something that fits the bill.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this
No, that’s not the definition of insanity. Have you ever heard someone say that? A person who does the same thing every day but expects a different result is insane?
Where did that start? I’ve heard that for over twenty five years.
First, nobody, but nobody ever tried the same thing over and over and expected a different result. And even if he did, he’s still not insane.
It’s like in high school, I kept trying to feel up my girlfriend at the drive in movies every friday night, and she’d stop me every time, and she’d say this over and over, “I would if I could, but I cant so I wont.”
So this one friday night I tried something new. I went up the sweater with my right hand, but instead of holding the duct tape over her mouth with my left hand like usual, I quickly went for the other teet and I’m still not sure, but I think I may have actually copped a feel that night, but of course, she goes, “I would if I could but I cant so I wont.” Well, I must have snapped because the next 47 years have been a blur. But I’m okay now…nyit nyizee, nyickee yo!
By Thurston
October 22, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this
Jackie,
Bless your mother’s heart.
Kidneys and gallbladder too.
Mommies are so handy when the boogeyman’s under the bed.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this
Nyick nitzee nicky noo noo….bup bup bammer…..
Hillary 08
By Fletcher
October 22, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this
Jackie @ 5:47
[jbm, may I?]
The answer is no, Jackie. Actually, that defines mere obstinacy. Unless jbm’s right, in which case it’s stubbornness. Trust me, he’s being stubborn.
By Fletcher
October 22, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this
And you’ve been way off 2nd base ever since, Analgland.
By Analchord
October 22, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this
jbm is usually right about things and especially right when it comes to wooten’s topic of the day. He’s simply consistently correct, whether you like it or not. That’s why I dont usually challenge him or Wooten, because they’re thinking is right, or correct. So there’s nothing to say but ditto, and why bother?
Hillary 08
By Fletcher
October 22, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this
Biddlyshoo-bop, ahwahnee yawny loo mop, fo’ tahnee welch’s dewdrop, a white’ll get jivey too…
You can blow now if you want, I’m thuh-rooooooooooooooooo
By Fletcher
October 22, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this
Oh yeah, Rudi ‘08
By Dorkhawk
October 22, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this
Sphincter, nice job with the Herman’s Hermits riff. Agree about the Cat Stevens point. It’s ugly. Regrettably so. OBL really announced much of that today, BTW.
Bristol sailing…
By Me
October 23, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this
If you believe in letting the free market work, then it is always wrong to give tax breaks to any business. If there is a profit to be made somewhere they will locate there anyway. They just play state and local governments for fools to get free money.