Thinking Right

By TW

October 13, 2007 8:09 AM | Link to this

Start with this – how come the public schools that sit in the middle of the expensive houses work just fine?

Strange isn’t it? Teaching quality is the same at the ‘failing school’, but the schools in lovely East Cobb just seem to do better than their sister schools on the south side of the county. Hmmmmmm.

Failing Schools?

Failing Country

There is no bigger indictment of the White man than the condition of those who are not.

Shame.

By GodHatesTrash

October 13, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

The problem with any educational system in Georgia is simply this - garbage in, garbage out.

Educating the children of ignorant superstitious child-abusing rednecks is a waste of time. Money would be better spent on orphanages and tubal ligations.

By Kevin

October 13, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

“There is no bigger indictment of the White man than the condition of those who are not.”

I hear ya TW - it’s a shame so many of those inner city schools in this nation have students who think studying and doing good in school is “acting white.” But that’s just whitie’s fault too. We already knew that. But thanks for reminding us TW. You have done your good Al/Jesse lieral race baiting good deed of the day.

By Ms Understood

October 13, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

Kevin - the world is so much bigger than black and white now…we better come together…at my hospital, illegal Mexicans had 400 babies in September…and the government footed the bill for 92% of them….address the real issues…why this so called government is allowing this to happen.

By Kevin

October 13, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

Whoops. Make that “liberal race baiting..*

Oh look, the liberal blog Satan is back, God’s Trash. Isn’t that special. What’s up slut? How’s your slut muther and sister? Tell those skanks hi for me.

By TW

October 13, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this

Faux News Kevin - yeah, that’s it - they fail bacause they don’t want to act white. How convenient for you to take that approach - doesn’t cost you a dime that way. What a good Republican.

By Kevin

October 13, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

“address the real issues…why this so called government is allowing this to happen.”

Well Miss Understood, I never let a cheap racist shot go by unmarked. Anyway, both political parties seem to not want to do anything about illegal Hispanic immigration [just call it what it is already!]. Neither wants to give up potential votes, but the Dems get more Hispanic votes anyway, so Republicans really have nothing to lose by taking it on. Bush, unfortunately, is a losing panderer.

By Kevin

October 13, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

TW can’t handle the truth and pulls Fox News out of his a$$. Isn’t that just like a damned liberal? No wonder I don’t waste time with them “debating.” Jackasses.

Read up, TW. Does TW stand for Toilet Wipe? You’ve got something hanging on your lip, lib. Liberals HATE the truth.

Read on, stinky butt:

“Go into any inner-city neighborhood, and folks will tell you that government alone can’t teach kids to learn. They know that parents have to parent, that children can’t achieve unless we raise their expectations and turn off the television sets and eradicate the slander that says a black youth with a book is acting white.” —Barack Obama, Keynote Address, Democratic National Convention, 2004

By Redneck Convert

October 13, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

Well, got my PBR and plenty of fried pork skins and I’m ready for the Dawgs big game against Vanderbilt. Jim Earl and Joe Bill will be over about noon and we’ll watch some of the worthless teams till 6 o’clock or so. My wide screen is working just fine. I just hope we don’t get another beat-down like last week against Tennessee. If the coach can keep enough players out of jail we ought to do fine.

Like I said before, I don’t see why we got to worry about schools here in GA. I never made it out of 5th grade and it never hurt me none. Let the kids attend till they are 16 and then let them go to work to get their own pickup and trailer.

The problem we got right now is the schools make it too tough on the kids. They got to learn about the gullet and the gizzard and then try the awful multiplying tables at the same time. When all the kids want to do is play football or cheerlead and get school over with so they can use their chainsaw and 4-wheelers. And just when they think they are finished for the year along comes the state with a big test they got to pass.

I don’t see why we can’t go back to the way school use to be. I remember poor Larry Burns that couldn’t learn nothing but kept getting sent on to the next grade each year. The teachers sent him out to sweep the hallways during class and he was very happy. At the end of 12 years he was a High School Graduate and probly knowed more than most GA students do now. The teachers was so happy to see him leave they took up a collection for him and high-fived each other.

Anyway, that’s the way we fix the schools. Just send the kids on to the next grade instead of holding them back and making them take tests and such. They will sort theirselfs out. The dumber ones will go on to be state legislaters and big car dealers that yell at you on TV at the top of their lungs, and the smart ones will have to go to work and be poor or teachers.

Anyway, if people want their kids to learn all kind of book learning they need to send them up North. Us Southreners don’t hold with that kind of stuff. Mark my words, it will be the same 100 years from now. People will still be moaning about how dumb the school kids are here. It tells me all I need to know that it took a legislater 3 years of study to figure out the schools ain’t working. Heck, I could of told him that if he had of just drove up here to the trailer.

Go Dawgs!

By Mack

October 13, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

Students are the usual suspects in a lineup of society’s two way mirror, a teacher. Teachers speak, constrained by arbitrary curriculum. Students step forward and repeat the words born at the crime scene of jury-nullified text books. Educators deliberate a student’s future with the same sentencing criteria used during the Inquisition. Some career paths are less taken because they’re mined no-mans-land in the holy war on science.

Funding education is as simple as building more bible schools. Support the troops.

By Kevin

October 13, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this

Here’s a good read for anyone who’s not too cowardly like TW to address what “acting white” is in this nation.

Instead of tackling the tougher problems, just do what shallow simpleton libs like TW, Jesse, and Al do: blame white people and Fox News for everything. Oh yeah, and calling for the firing of people who say “nappy ho” is an easy problem to fix too! To hell with the REAL problems, folks.

By TW

October 13, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

Gee…Faux News Kevin knows how to cherry pick…imagine that? Not only that, but he has furthered himself from having to spend a dime to fix anything…brilliant…brilliant Republican!

What does your two-chambered frog heart of a brain make of this, Kevin -

Klan membership down - NRA membership up?

Use of the ‘N’ word down - use of the term ‘racebating’ up?

By Kevin

October 13, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

“Just send the kids on to the next grade instead of holding them back and making them take tests and such. They will sort theirselfs out.”

The lib Redneck parody clown has it right! The only problem here is, it’s liberals and the Dem-supporting American Federation of Teachers in our schools that find it more important to move a kid on to the next grade level so his self esteem won’t get hurt. I mean, let’s get real here. There are teachers that don’t give out grades anymore because they might hurt a kid’s feelings.

Liberalism is the problem here. But, that’s why caring parents send their kids to private schools. Get ‘em the hell out of those gestapo public indoctrination camps.

By Kevin

October 13, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this

Now Toilet Wipe dwindles down to the NRA and the “N” word and whatnot. Like where did that come from? You just can’t reason with lower life forms like that. Don’t waste your time. That typing corpse just thinks more money solves everything.

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. The mantra of all socialists is, “it did not work because the wrong person was running it.” Socialism has failed in every venue. Why anyone would continue to believe it is the ideal way to deliver education tests the imagination. Vouchers would be a partial step toward introducing free market changes - I don’t understand why the socialists won’t consider that half-change, unless this is really some game to preserve government majesty.

Special note to Redneck, if I had any continuing relations with my alma mater I would ask them to take it easy on your team today. Regrettably, they are on their own against the mighty commodores.

By TW

October 13, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

Aw, c’mon Kevin…don’t be so easy…have faith in your snake oil…

By GodHatesTrash

October 13, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

Long before there ever was a Department of Education, Georgia schools were the bottom of the barrel, turning out a state full of violent racist superstitious illiterates. Spending money trying to educate the poor pitiful souls that are born to redneck parents is like throwing money in the street.

Take children from people like Kevin and put them in orphanages- feed Kevin saltpeter or castrate him, to save another generation from his stupid inbred genes.

Clean up the trash, America.

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

Apologies Kevin, my post says almost exactly what you said better @ 9:17.

By Stop Signs

October 13, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

Teachers themselves are the problem because they’re human. I can remember just two inspiring teachers when I attended grades 1-12. Most of my teachers were obsessed only with style. Many had that thousand-mile stare, shell shocked by unrequited love. Teachers are human.

We get jaded and numbed by the vicissitudes of our individual love stories. If only we had read that letter, if only we had not walked into that bar, if only…..

Heartbroken, we ignore our obligations to inspire, to instruct, and to pass on that which could have made us great if only. If only.

Instead we bury that which makes us unique and our irrelevence becomes etched in stone.

By UGA Bound

October 13, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

Jbmlaw is the only one publicizing socialism. Ann Coulter is the only one mentioning Marxism. Rush Limbaugh is the only one creating liberal criteria.

Found that hot-button issue yet?

Revelations describes a more believable being.

By GodHatesTrash

October 13, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

The rants and ravings of jbmlaw-tftt, Wooten, and the rest of his klanners cannot explain Georgia’s tragic unmitigated history of violent superstitious stupidity.

Let’s face it, any institution - education, governmental, legal, domestic - that develops within a diseased racist violent superstitious group of people is doomed to reflect the stupidity and disease of its forebearers.

Trash will always beget trash, unless something truly drastic is done to disrupt the cycle.

By CNN word

October 13, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

Advertising works because it references culture. SAT’s and IQ tests fail because they reference culture. White students can deduce correct answers based on the culturally-derived syntactical justaposition of the words and phrases in the IQ and SAT questions themselves. These enunciated vestiges of slavery, shining so brightly in contract law, constraining nearly all spontaneous social intercourse, and fastening our inherited racial attitudes, serve to placate the entrenched educational resource allocation networks.

This impedes reform.

By @@

October 13, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

I laughed when I saw Alford’s use of the word homogenous Jim. I was immediately reminded of Miss Muffet eating her curds & whey.

I’m soooo thankful that I work in a private school. I think every teacher would benefit from working with autistic children whose abilities to learn cover a wide spectrum. The only common link among them are their behavior disorders. Once the behaviors are dealt with, the kids are free to meet the goals that are set.

Even kids with disabilities have a need to compete. The high achievers serve as role models for the kids whose abilities are limited.

Those who think that children with disabilities have nothing to offer couldn’t be more wrong. They have taught me more than a typical child ever could.

By Moral Czar

October 13, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

People are not trash. Garbage is trash. Does every comment you litter this blog with have to contain the word trash? Your mind is a rubbled dreg.

By smoking mullet

October 13, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

UGA bound (I’m so sorry) sayeth:

Jbmlaw is the only one publicizing socialism.

Ann Coulter is the only one mentioning Marxism.

Revelations describes a more believable being.

Oh really? Destroying private health care for government run free health care for all paid for by those who pay taxes is not socialism? Taking $5,000 from those who pay taxes and redistribute it to kids is not socialism? Let’s look at Marxism now. A heavily progressive income tax is not mentioned in the Communist Manifesto? Taking people’s property away after they die and not allowing them to pass it on to their heirs is not in the Communist Manifesto?

UGA Bound, an stupid ignorant piece of left wing pinko trash like you will fit right in at UGA.

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Quote of the day, not particuarly a recent one: “it never ceases to amaze me that the courts are so willing to assume that anything that is predominantly black must be inferior.”

Who said it?

By Dusty

October 13, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

God Hates Trash,

I suspect that you hate just about everybody. No love in your heart, buddy, for any skin color.

Surprisingly enough, considering what people tell us about Georgia education, our state sends some amazing people to Washington. Out of the South have come founders of the country and more recently Jimmy Carter, Sam Nunn, Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice and many others that excel. If you throw in Virginia and Texas, we have swamped the Capitol with intelligent citizens. (Even the ever eccentric Cynthia McKinney is well educated!)

Of course you will come up with the hate mantra and and name some bigots which can be found almost anywhere if you are looking for them.

Georgia’s education may show flaws but the character is always there. Sorry you don’t see it. I doubt that you are “from” the South.

By Tax Payer - Angry

October 13, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

Public schools in Georgia, ney in all of America are run first for the benefit and convenience of the SCHOOL SYSTEM, SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS, THEN FOR THE BENEFIT AND CONVENIENCE OF TEACHERS. Students are just the raw material (raw sewage?) being processed in the school (plant). Never forget that the public school system is first and foremost a jobs programs for all the politically connected suits in administration, and the politically connected teachers in the classroom, secondly as a baby sitting service for parents, and last as a way of keeping excess labor off the market until it turns 18, or perferable 22 or older. END TAXPAYER FREE PUBLIC EDUCATION IN GEORGIA, MAKE THE PARENTS PAY FOR THE EDUCATION OF THEIR OWN CHILDREN. Then costs will come under control, and parents will demand the children work to learn, and the lazy teachers work to teach. No more lesson plans created by the teacher in her first year on the job, still being used on the day the lazy had retires on her unearned taxpayer paid retirement.

By Craig17

October 13, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

That Trash troll barked that something ‘truly drastic needs to be done’. I wonder what it means? Eradicating all conservatives?

Please refrain from feeding the dog by responding to it’s ankle nipping here people. Just pray it will be reincarnated and pay for the hate by being a dog in a Puerto Rican ghetto.

By @@

October 13, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

The quote jbmlaw cites is from Clarence Thomas who frequently quotes Frederick Douglas.

“If the negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone!”

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Dear UGA Bound, my policy is to not attack undeveloped minds. Enjoy your time at UGA, the real world awaits. If you have time for a single diversion, I would urge you to wade through “Atlas Shrugged.” Tough, long, read. When my younger son was in the eighth grade, I gave him a copy and told him there was a $100 bill at the end of the book. He not only collected his money, but he quotes the book 10 years later.

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

No fair @@, my query was not posed for anyone with a brain. (Just kidding.) I am yet amazed at the otherwise intelligent people who do not appreciate the genius of Justice Thomas. As is the case with my hero, Thomas Sowell (did you read his series on Justice Thomas this week?), he says more with fewer words than any since Justice Holmes.

By UGA Bound

October 13, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

And your hate isn’t taken word4word from the preamble to “Mein Pet Kampf”, which happened to be the book W was reading on 911 to the assembly of hitler youth in that elementary school?

There’s no place in this country for haters. Please migrate. Yes, Hillary’s plan calls for one free airline ticket to deutchland for every hater.

By GodHatesTrash

October 13, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

My position and those of the Wooten-klanners are not as far apart as one might think.

Liberalism and government intervention in various forms has served to perpetuate and enable the diseased culture of the American south, starting with Lincoln’s Civil War.

Freeing the slaves saved southron whites from the inevitable slave uprisings that would have resulted in their much deserved slaughter. Certainly the rot of slavery would have eventually fallen from its own weight. If the CSA had gone its own way, it would have probably become another Haiti, given the apalling lack of education in the southern states.

The failures of Reconstruction are well known - the southron white maintained his sense of privilege on top of a diseased and disgusting society based on violence and rape. Southern blacks were killed and worked to death with the same impunity of the slave years. Bringing the southron white back under the cover of Old Glory gave them an undeserved veneer of respectability.

Later, millionaires like Rockefeller helped to end the plagues of rickets and ringworm that helped keep the redneck population in check. FDR’s New Deal brought billions of dollars in federal spending to the degenerates that lived in Appalachia and the Tennessee River Valley/Swamp. Welfare kept many many southerners in food. People that would have starved, or forced to find productive work, stayed mired in the filth of their shacks and reproduced, causing still another generation of poverty and superstition.

Thus, the superstitious hatefilled animalistic heart of the southerner was perpetuated and even strengthened by liberalism.

Money we spend on educating southerners would be better spent on orphanages and forced sterilization.

By RW-(the original)

October 13, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

Good advice on your recommended wading list. Can you believe Atlas Shrugged is 50 years old this year?

Some things are just timeless I guess.

By AmVet

October 13, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

I am often amused by those “scholars” here who blame the evil, subversive liberals for the failings of public education.

YET, it is well documented that the most “liberal” states - those in the Northeast and upper Midwest, for example - always crank out the most educated, capable students in the country, per capita.

And the states most identified with the GOP and this so called conservatism - all of the states in the deep south, for example - are always at the very bottom of any legitimate scale regarding educational performance and overall aptitude and intelligence.

Those are the long standing facts and they are irrefutable.

I know from personal experience, that generally, in those NE and MW states, education is prized. It is heavily stressed at the family level and kids are expected to perform at a high academic standard. Sometimes very high standards.

In a great deal of the South, and other bastions of non-progress, education is, in many cases, something to be suffered through and given lip service. And it has always been accepted here that an enormous percentage of students will “pass” high school but read and function at an eighth grade level or less.

Stupid is as stupid does. And then they procreate.

Politics won’t solve the problem.

Only when families again start putting education first and everything else second will this change. And only when parents require Johnny, Susie, DeShawn and Lakesha to give 100% to put up academically or shut up will Georgia crawl off the virtual bottom of the list.

But then that would require personal responsibility wouldn’t it? And apparently a great deal of the country, doesn’t much care for the taste of that.

They would rather blame the “system”.

By Glenn Gilbert

October 13, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

“Tax-payer Angry”, you’re right about the sinister confusion as to which group constitutes the actual clientele of the school system. But I wish you’d give the common schooling ideal another look. Democracy’s also a taskmaster.

I’m warming to your peckerwood satire, “Redneck Convert”. It’s better than I’d thought. Are you perhaps the alter ego of Jim Wooten, like Garth Brooks in Chris Gaines mode, playing dress-up for fun? If you are really Jim, then may I ask what you make of Mr. Alford’s claim that the “system doesn’t work for both sides”? What sides? Who chose sides? Whose side is Alford on? What’s this talk about “roles and responsibilities and clear covenants”? Who gets to assign the roles and responsibilities? Who would be the parties to a covenant, and what would each party owe to the other(s)? On what planet does he expect ever to see 90% attendance in urban public schools? Show me his spaceship.

By Tax Payer - Angry

October 13, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

JMB, you idiot, Atlas Shrugged is not a hard read - I read it for pleasure in high school, on my own, as my teachers were too dumb to recommend reading material of any type other than the bible. The 900 Days was another good read, it told me that war is for idiots and their ilk. Did you know that at Leningrad, after the Germans had been driven away, Ivan used six year old girls to walk thru the mine fields, feeling for mines? Many died, but the mine fields were cleared. Do you know why Ivan used six year old girls, and not soldiers, or six year old boys? Did not think so.

By Dusty

October 13, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Poor old God Hates Trash,

still in the slavery of hate from 150 years ago and trying to rationalize it. But bigotry cannot be wrapped in any form and made to look “pretty”. You are a sad case, GHT, a relic from the past still mewling with maudlin moans of a tragic and lost mindset.

Best wishes, sad one, you need all the help you can get.

By GodHatesTrash

October 13, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

The amoeba-like brain that is Dusty’s correctly determined that “you ain’t from around here”.

God, what trash you are, you silly superstitious kkklown.

By UGA Bound

October 13, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw, are you suggesting that taxpayers are jesus’s who should deny their crosses and hoard the productive achievements gleaned by virtue of their own innate advantages?

Individual success can only come at the expense of the masses from whose sheer existence drips the resources which get hoarded by self-aggranding entrepreneurs.

You must be so proud of yourself. Enjoy your porcelain veneers, for there will be gnashing of teeth when the first become the last.

By GodHatesTrash

October 13, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Alas, AmVet, we shouldn’t blame the poor children. Many of them are hampered by genetics - generations of inbreeding and random couplings on the part of southerners result in difficult hurdles for many of these children to climb, irrespective of the degenerate environments of their so-called ‘family life’ - which is often nothing but sitting around a filthy mobile home nervously watching television eating Dominos pizza and chitos waiting for their drunken parents to beat them or have sex with them, or both. Doubly damned, these children have no real future, only perpetuating the horrors of their upbringing.

By Dusty

October 13, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Glen Gilbert @ 10:57,

Awww come on..puhleeze!! You didn’t think for one minute that Redneck Convert was for REAL, did you? He’s the biggest liberal undercover (satire) agent in these parts. Captain Freedom is another one, if not the same.

For entertainment, they try. I suspect the “beer truck” is parked in a gated subdivision of many mansions next to the golf course.

But enjoy the “putdown” as produced by amateur comedians of political propaganda. Southerners in particular enjoy it as it shows the mindset of a “funny” liberal who would betray his mother for party points.

By Zell's Bells

October 13, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Amvet starts his manifesto-length uniblogger-wannabe disertation-style treatise like he’s writing for his PHD, and then he quotes Forest Gump.

Where do we get such men?

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

Poor UGA Bound, I am merely suggesting that theft remains theft, whether the money is taken by a gun, or by a majority vote of the parasites over the producers.

By @@

October 13, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw:

Oops! Sorry for the delay, taking delivery from the postman.

I read a two-part series by Sowell on Thomas at JWR. Is that the one you’re talking about?

In it Sowell had this to say:

His memoir tells us more. Born in material poverty beyond anything experienced even by people on welfare today, Clarence Thomas was raised with an abundance of discipline and character-building that would pay off in later life.

*Those conclusions were probably more firmly grasped because they were his own, rather than something he read by somebody else.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste reading the progressive meanderings of people like Sharpton, Jackson and other Democrat elitists dont’cha think?

I have a dream jbmlaw and it is invested in ALL of mankind.

Radical….I know.

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Dear TaxPayer @ 10:58, you are correct that Atlas is not a tough read for a normal conservative, but my comments were addressed to one without benefit of intellectual development.

By JK

October 13, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Once again Mr. Wooten pretends to care about the sorry state of education in Georgia, when all he really cares about is that HE not be taxed to pay for it. You used more paragraphs than usual today, Mr. Wooten, but the level to which you actually care about education and the future of Georgia’s aggregate IQ is still obvious.

Why not just say what you really mean in good ol’ Georgia dumbed-down terminology: “Public school doesn’t work, and I want my tax money back! Wah wah wah!”

By Larry

October 13, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

UGA bound: That’s the most succint review of Atlas Shrugged I’ve ever read. Should Jesus have taken up the sword and used his divine powers for himself and the Jews? Perhaps that why people do suffer injustices: they get exposed to the Jesus story early and often. Sacrifice for others. Dont complain. Just go along. Jesus might have come down from that cross if someone showed him a copy of Atlas, eh?

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Dear AmVet @ 10:56, in magnifying the academic accomplishments of the public schools of Washington DC, Philadelphia, Boston-Chelsea, and Bedford-Stuy, you confuse me with alternate arguments. Do we conservatives blame “evil, subversive liberals for the failings of public education” (i.e., the traditional socialist explanation for failure - the wrong people were running it) or do we “blame the ‘system?’” I know I blame the system, not those running it, but perhaps you are offering an argument unfamiliar to me?

Dear RW @ 10:51, agree, and I always suspect Atlas is not on the reading list of the government schools. I once toyed with buying a stock of the books, to give one to each member of my sons’ 12th grade classes - ultimately did not, I decided most of the kids would not be sufficiently motivated to read it.

By Glenn Gilbert

October 13, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

“jmblaw”, compulsory, mass, state-operated schooling is not necessarily socialistic, but it is quintessentially, almost definitively, liberal. Contrary to your assertion, vouchers would not change the means of delivery, only the structure of finance and, one would hope, the quality of delivery within the existing means. There’s a problem with turning education loose on the open market, though, and I’m sure Dr. Sowell must have discussed the problem with his late friend Prof. Friedman. The market tends to find ways (e.g. through consolidation) to manipulate the market so as to inflate demand for a given service artificially (e.g. via marketing) and then deliberately under-supply it, to drive up price. Some economists, including Sowell’s Stanford colleague J.P. Dupuy, call this phenomenon “scarcification”, and it would be terrible were it to be visited upon American education. The false premise of educational economics is that the means of education are scarce.

BTW, since when was Holmes given to efficient prose? If you like to dispense with the flowery & poetical, try Black, or Frankfurter or Scalia.

By time for the kill sick yanKKKee trash truth

October 13, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

I see the yanKKKee child rapist godKILLthistrashNOW/rednekkks NAMBLA has been bailed after a long time in sex offenders seclusion in VT.

All its pent up anti-southern bile is now being puked up as hysterically as ever. yanKKKee vermin like this sick and twisted retarded son of leper colony w hore needs to be put to sleep like rabid dogs are and tossed in a lime pit!!

By AmVet

October 13, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

Notwithstanding the erudite nature of that 11:24, the poster, apparently with a mouse in his pocket, does not discount one fact or assertion.

And doesn’t this typify those on the lunatic fringe who do nothing but attack the messenger and add zilch of substance to the discourse?

GHT, it is true that the South has it’s unique challenges. And a deep seated inferiority complex and an amazing distrust of progress and change are parts of that equation.

And there is little doubt, IMHO, that this condition has been exacerbated by Dixie’s recent lurching to the political far right.

This self defeating mentality that this is the way we’ve always done it here and, this is the way we will continue to do it, is very alive and well. Results be damned.

All the time cutting off their noses to spite their faces simply in order to disagree with the educated demon liberals.

So they continue to ill-prepare yet another generation for the challenges ahead.

By Tax Payer - Angry

October 13, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

Actually GodHatesTrash, inbreading is how helpful genetic mutations were amplified in the population. In the small groups of people living 100,000 plus years ago, everyone in the small tribe was related to everyone else. Negative mutations died out quickly, as mother nature eliminated the weak. Useful mutations were amplified since for inbread groups, both the mother and the father would soon be carrying the same mutation. Of the so called negative mutations, some were a mixed blessing, bestowing say a resistance to diseases like malaria, but at a cost of a blood disorder. Do not knock inbreading, they have accomplished much, just look at the University of Alabama football program. Who woulda thunk that inbreed bunch of cross eyed muties coulda won so many National titles?

By GodHatesTrash

October 13, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Jb-tfft. your hero Thomas Sowell puts the blame on inner city schools and culture squarely where it belongs - on the vicious stupid American redneck. The ancestral home of urban black culture is the slave plantation, not Africa.

Read your copy of Black Rednecks, White Liberals again. The first part.

Trash.

By Glenn Gilbert

October 13, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

Dusty, Dusty.

By Larry

October 13, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Jbmlaw’s book report on “atlas shrugged” exposes everything a teacher would need to keep him back a grade.

Judging any act as a theft would require more volumes of print than has yet been written or than ever could be written. Who is the thief? Who presumes to judge? Who is the victim? The answers to those questions appear obvious if one is considering the armed robbery of a bank, unless the masked men with shotguns are ex-employees who were legally deleted from a pension plan they earned over a 35 year career.

Or the armed mob who dares to steal food from entrenched food vendors who poisoned their children as punishment for shoplifting apples.

Or the starving population who trespass and steals booty from a royal family cowering behind palace walls after that population ordains themselves as having the right to self govern and the right to correct a system that fails to feed them.

Armed theft? How about how you hack every thought you’ve ever blogged, jbmlaw, armed only with envy.

Or, if you meant that Atlas Shrugged was a good read on the beach where you can impress babes in bikinis, who’s kisses should be stolen, then I humbly apologize for my shortcoming which you so aptly described as lacking the benefits of intellectual developement. I withdraw well chastized, sir, and yield the floor. (and the beach).

By jm

October 13, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

well, if Georgia improved its education system, what would it do with the massive prison system it has been building the last 20 years? Georgia, top ten in prison population, bottom ten in education.

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

Dear Glenn @ 11:42, thanks for your argument, but I think I suffer a disconnect. I reserve the term “liberal” for its classical definition, not the post WW2 b*******. Thus I cannot imagine how you can call a government school education “liberal” but not “socialistic.”

Quite the contrary to your affirmation, no rational economist has any qualms about “turning the market loose” on education. The greatest problem out there is the absence of market input. I realize there is a body of thought that says consumers are not intelligent enough to make rational decisions, and only the overseers can make those decisions - that body of thought is called “socialism.”

By Cataclysm

October 13, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

This blog is dumb as hell. Luckovich needs to keep his going through the weekend. With all the so-called education you morons allegedly have, you should start your own blog instead of freeloading off of Wooten’s.

By AmVet

October 13, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Good morning counselor.

Notwithstanding your attempts to cherry pick the worst of the worst as illustrative of an entire region, unfortunately, I would not be the slightest bit surprised if the districts you mentioned, Bedford-Sty, DC, etc, are still ahead of the average of the schools in the Deep South.

And doesn’t that truly illustrate the depth of the problem here?

Superior education is simply a matter of priorities, and apparently here in Georgia, there are quite a few in front of it.

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

Also Glenn, evidently you read Holmes differently than I. I don’t recall a single opinion longer than two pages.

Dear Larry @ 11:59, “theft” is not hard to define. That is any act depriving a rightful owner of his property. Unless you subcribe to that theory that “all wealth belongs to the government, save that which it allows its citizens to borrow,” your ambivalence is not well founded.

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Dear Am Vet @ 12:08, as you seemingly acknowledge that your prior sweeping generality was overblown, I’ll ease back. I think you would agree with me that the South has a long history of rigid government control over the education process, dating to the period of slavery. I think that history of government control is the obvious causation for the disparity you allege. The solution is also apparent.

By getalife

October 13, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

ambulance chaser,

I am shocked, shocked that you did not want to shove the bible down their throats wingnut.

Here is a good book if they want to learn about our broken government thanks to your failed party.

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Note to all, my 12:06 bad word was a synonym for illigitimization, not anything scatalogical.

By Cataclysm

October 13, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

getalife,

You won’t be satisfied until you’re breaking down the gates of hell will you?

By getalife

October 13, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

“Mayor begs residents to conserve water:

The commissioner of Atlanta’s Department of Watershed Management made a plea for conservation today because of the severe drought that has forced restrictions on 61 counties in north Georgia.”

Jim fails to write about the biggest problem facing GA.

I wonder where you will move when you run out.

Come to New Orleans, there is plenty water down here.

By Glenn Gilbert

October 13, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

jmblaw, I was indeed referring to classical liberalism, but at some point liberalism has to be counterposed to true conservativism grounded in pre-Enlightenment orthodoxy. I too despise socialism, not least because ideologically I happen to feel more at home in, say, the 12th century than in the 20th, or 21st. The scarcification phenomenon is real, and yes there are rational economists who have qualms about the prospect of watching that phenomenon play out in education. At 11:42 I named one of those distinguished economists, and I’ll name others if it suits you. Your inferences and implications notwithstanding, I don’t actual have a solution to the scarcification problem, except to say that it’s a construct resulting from the spurious assumption that education is necessarily a scarce commodity, or a commodity at all. I share your admiration for Dr. Sowell, a brilliant, brave and gentle man. And for Justice Thomas likewise. I’m simply saying that these economic factors are serious issues, worthy of the attentions of such people, and of such people as yourself.

By Zells' Bells

October 13, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

“Amvet wants it, so he gets it. What we have here is a failure to communicate”. (since you like movie quotes so much)

Lets look at Amvet’s comment: He claims to be amused by partisan spin, and then becomes the stereotype of clerics who annoint themselves experts on Darwinian geo-sociological trends, using anecdotally-derived doctrine to confirm specious conclusions concerning our unique american penchant for being number one.

He violated about 377 of the 378 rules of debate. (He kept his hands in his pockets, so we cant be sure if he broke the last rule)

By time for the harsh but fair truth

October 13, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

presumably arsehole vet’s pathetic, groundlessly supercilious but yet normatively obtuse and deeply flawed analysis about “Dixie” includes the ‘antics’ of the professional black bigots/racial spoils leeches and hippety hop thugs who endlessly repeat their glaring failures socio-economically and politically in the counties/cities that they corruptly and (invariably) incompetently ‘control’??!!

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Good morning getalife @ 12:16, see you’re sleeping in today. While I have a profound admiration for the truths in the Bible, I would not compel anyone to acquire any particular knowledge. I take it as a compliment that everyone I contact wishes to use my sources also, so I don’t have to shove anything down anyone’s throat.

While I have every confidence that Mr. Dean’s work is enjoyable fiction, I have issues with his character. I find Gordon Liddy a superior moral and intellectual force, certainly when compared to Mr. Dean.

By getalife

October 13, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

What I like most about New Orleans is all the stranded gay men here. I routinely invite them into my house and……well,you know the rest.

By RW-(the original)

October 13, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

I’m sure that if you measured government school performance by district rather than making believe some geographical area of the country does it all right while another does it all wrong you would see a differnet picture.

But even measuring dropout percentage by state doesn’t show you the “south bad everywhere else good” model Blowhard is spewing about as clearly as he would have you believe

By getalife

October 13, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

cat,

I chose the righteous path and this blog is not the gates of hell.

However, many wingnuts here have chosen the wrong path and should repent.

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

Dear Glenn @ 12:24, with all due respect you argue falsely. The validity of an argument does not hinge on the credentials of the one who argues; you could provide a list of 100 names, and that would not make your argument even slightly more persuasive.

Inference and deduction are certainly valid, and please use those all you wish to try to put some “there” in your argument. For now your affirmation is a naked postulate, and one contrary to my sense of reason. Give me some substance.

By Wootenduh

October 13, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

The Atlanta Urinal Constitution, in cooperation with Al Qaeda in Iraq, is pleased to bring you the following blessed news:

{{{{IRAQ DEVELOPMENTS- A bomb planted among toys in a cart left near a children’s playground in the religiously mixed city of Tuz Khormato, 130 miles north of the capital, killed two people and wounded 17.-Urinal}}}}

Our brothers the terrorists keep targeting children, we keep blaming it on America.

~~~~~~

{{{{Rather than reducing the millions of gallons flowing from Lanier, as the governor had asked, the Corps says it is instead increasing it. According to the Corps, the other federal reservoirs on the Chattahoochee River are nearly depleted and can’t provide additional water to Florida for a small coal-fired power plant and two federally protected species of freshwater mussels.}}}}

Isn’t it funny that same libs who think they are direct descendants of pond scum are the first ones to protect some worthless mussel from any change in it’s environment?

Why don’t you pinkos coax your beloved mussel into growing some eyes and little flipper feets so that it can carry it’s as-s to where theres some water at?

Environmentalists suck.

~~~~~~

Duh Vent, see if you can spot the ones submitted by the Urinal Editorial Board:

{{{{Does anyone know how many Republican presidents or vice presidents have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize?}}}}

Let’s see, the Republicans won the Civil War and freed the slaves, the single biggest event in American history outside of the Constitutional Conventions or Washington’s victory at Saratoga.

Ronald Reagan bled the Soviet Union to death and freed hundreds of million people from communism.

Jimmy Carter and al-Gore did, uh, what?

You libs are so full of crap, awarding yourselves with prizes and then bragging about it, geez, what wankers.

By getalife

October 13, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

I wish I had a nice long hard one to suck on. Will someone please f^ck me? I’ve had my rabies shots.

By Martinet

October 13, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Glenn, you should not sacrifice substance for syntactical form. Use parallel constructs only when you’ve set an emotional tone.

But at least you didn’t troll. For that I thank you, sir, and now accept this humble reply: Scarcification refers to the way a the plumbing industry makes every single application unique to experience, so that no one can just jiggle the handle and stop the leak. Instead, he must rely on the expertise of a journeyman who himself was trained.

If there was any justice, we could all just look at faulty plumbing and know what to do. But go ahead, turn that valve, unscrew that joint. go ahead. make my day.

By getalife

October 13, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

cat,

I’d rather have a c*ck shoved down my throat than a bible.

By getalife

October 13, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

{{{{Does anyone know how many Republican presidents or vice presidents have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize?}}}}

Like w and cheney would get it sore loser.

08 will be a major thumpin.

Got water?

Pray harder.

By AmVet

October 13, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Counselor, call it sweeping generalizations if it makes you feel better.

I called it what it truly is - irrefutable facts.

I know this p!sses off “conservatives”, the poorly educated and your garden variety neo-con, but it is undeniable that the most liberal areas of the nation produce an overly representative number of the brightest minds. And by any measurement completely dominate this field.

But then, you and I both know that out of the ten worst performing states in the union, the South has virtually ALL of them.

And of the top ten states, NONE are from the South.

Shoot the messenger if you must, but it does not change those incontrovertible facts.

Personal accountability, which used to be one of the hallmarks of conservatives, or the lack thereof, is the crux of the issue.

And as long as the apologists, black and white, conservative and liberal, continue to let those most responsible off the hook, there will be no fundamental change.

So forgive me, but I think your paranoia over “government controls” as being the primary cause of this enormous disparity is bunk.

The difference is IMHO primarily explained by people whose world view is strikingly different.

One set, those not so intransigently invested in the status quo, believe that education is THE answer to unlock the dreams of the future.

The other?

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

Dear Glenn, on re-reading your post maybe I misunderstood - do you argue that the notion of institutional education is inherently flawed? I can see that argument, but I fear I am still misreading your argument.

By Cataclysm

October 13, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

getalife,

You’re disgusting.

By AmVet

October 13, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

So yet another General with actual on the ground experience in this clusterf@ck of an invasion has damning things to say about this inept administration.

How many is that now?!!!

As Yogi Berra said, “Deja vu, all over again”.

A former commander of coalition forces in Iraq issued a harsh assessment of U.S. management of the war, saying that American political leaders cost American lives on the battlefield with their “lust for power.”

Retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, coalition commander in 2003 and 2004, called the Iraq war “a nightmare with no end in sight,” for which he said the Bush administration, the State Department and Congress all share blame.

Sanchez told a group of military reporters in Arlington, Virginia, on Friday that such dereliction of duty by a military officer would mean immediate dismissal or court martial, but the politicians have not been held accountable.

He said the Iraq war plan from the start was “catastrophically flawed, unrealistically optimistic,” and the administration has not provided the resources necessary for victory, which he said the military could never achieve on its own.

“After more than four years of fighting, America continues its desperate struggle in Iraq without any concerted effort to devise a strategy that will achieve victory in that war torn country or in the greater conflict against extremism,” Sanchez said.

Sanchez pointed to what he said was “neglect and incompetence at the National Security Council level” which has put the U.S. military into “an intractable situation” in Iraq.

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

Dear AmVet @ 12:41, I will partially accept your premise. I think the larger population areas tend to be leftist, and I think the brighest immigrant populations - frankly disproportionately Asian and Jewish - tend to settle in the larger population areas, so your correlation is valid, even if your causation is weak.

I think you are also correct when you affirm that bright leftists, unemployable due to their selection of undergraduate courses, tend to drift into “education” and wind up teaching the “young skulls full of mush.”

Thus accepting the undeniable portion of your truths, short of executing all unemployable leftists who would otherwise drift into the field, how do you propose reform to ensure true education?

By getalife

October 13, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

children,

Stop wanking.

fakelaw,

With your logic, you must not be a lazy Fred fan since he “played ball” with Nixon’s watergate crime.

By getalife

October 13, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

I was once raped by a pair of rats. I fell asleep on the floor after watching ‘Terms of Endearment’, when all of a sudden, I felt two little penises going in and out of my mouth and ear. Luckily, I got up and ran to the bathroom in time.

By getalife ♥

October 13, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

Give it a rest child.

Mike’s new toon is really good and think Sanchez is next on their pathetic hit list.

Attack the messenger and not the message works for the ignorant, gullible wingnuts but real Americans see it as disgusting and are sick of it.

They will vote dem.

By Martinet

October 13, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

JBMlaw’s 12:31 deserves a review. It’s easy to deduce that jbmlaws admires creative writing. He infers his own talent with very ambitious syntactical choices. Compound sentences are a hack’s worst enemy.

By Dusty

October 13, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

Now, folks, when you get through showing off your vocabularies, maybe you could write in the simpler forms of English, brilliant knowledge conveyed in prized condensation.

I love the lyric of words but the tune is somewhat garbled. Refrain, my friends, from displaying the higher points of your education for the adulation of the masses.

The display of knowledge in its shortest form is a gift not given to many.

By @@

October 13, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Oh my AmVet, you leave me baffled. Given your propensity to dictate here and your disdain for all things conservative I’m left wondering how you would accomplish such a feat as the one you stated:

Only when ——>families again start putting education first and everything else second<—— will this change. And ——>only when parents require Johnny, Susie, DeShawn and Lakesha to give 100% to put up academically or shut up<—— will Georgia crawl off the virtual bottom of the list.

How would you accomplish that AmVet short of privatizing education? While you’re mulling it over, keep in mind that the U.S. government’s DOE was establiished to formulate funding programs and to enforce federal educational laws regarding privacy and civil rights.

Do you want to do away with the D.O.E. in Washington or do you think more money thrown at it would force families to motivate their children to learn?

Personally I can’t see how the latter would accomplish your objective and the former would leave you subject to being labeled a greedy, self-serving, conservative bigot.

I’m outta here for now, but please leave an explanation for your statement.

By Therese

October 13, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Well said, Dusty. Bloggers should write as well as they are able, but to sacrifice content for form is wrong.

Just say it, my fellow commenters Just say it.

I think I can best illustrate my point here with this paradox from ancient Syria: If a tree falls in the forest, does anyone yell, “Timber”?

By GodHatesTrash

October 13, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Folks, Dusty would like us to dumb things down for her.

Not surprising.

Dusty - let me be succinct with you.

You are trash.

Now stfu.

By getalife

October 13, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

MIA Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is concerned that the powers Vladimir Putin has amassed may undermine democracy in Russia:

“In any country, if you don’t have countervailing institutions, the power of any one president is problematic for democratic development,” Rice told reporters after meeting with human-rights activists.”

She is talking about Putin but has those cheney blinders on for our government.

Putin is laughing at her credibility.

This is the state of our State dept. It is a laughing stock.

By @@

October 13, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

Sorry Dusty. Hope my 1:07 wasn’t too wordy.

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

Dear Dusty @ 1:04, fair criticism. We all think we are Alan Jay Lerner, but we are not even Al Franken.

By Therese

October 13, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw’s 12:49, although well constructed, would have been more effective if he had simply written, “Those who cant teach those who wont want to.”

If jbmlaw had talent he would have complained about the status quo thusly: “…and thus an unsufferable melange of lower class buffoons conscript our campaigns with vulgar stump.”

By getalife

October 13, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

“The chairman of the Republican Party in Brown County faces criminal charges for allegedly fondling a 16-year-old Ethan House runaway and providing the boy with beer and marijuana late last year. Donald Fleischman, 37, of Allouez, was charged last month with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child. He was summoned to Brown County court for his initial appearance on Sept. 28. He is free having posted a signature bond as his promise to return to court.”

Geez.

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Dear Martinet @ 1:03, “hack” is generous for my prose. I frequently use the semicolon to conjoin those arguments I would otherwise have to attach with duct tape.

By Therese

October 13, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

Trash, your comment lays there. Are we supposed to think that you really got in a good one? Are we now to question whether Dusty will ever bounce back from your clever, yet insidiously ambiguous riposte? Or do we take heart that most trolls spam indifferently, and thus can serve as no quantitative measure of devotion or skill.

By Martinet

October 13, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

A prose by any other name would smell as sweet, sir.

By GodHatesTrash

October 13, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Vicious stupid superstitious sociopaths from around the country, indeed the world, are drawn to the dysfunction of the American south.

There are the homegrown monsters like jbmlaw, @@, and the congenital idiot Dusty. There are out of state sociopaths like Curly Girl that have relocated here from the intellectual vacuum of the Chicago suburbs. And there is the refuse from the street wh*re/criminal class of England, tfttranny.

All of them are attracted to the racism, violence and superstition of neo-kkkon/neo-kkkonfederatism.

Which group are you in, Therese? I’m guessing a southron gal, drunken sorority sister cum prostitute…

Whatever. Trash.

By RW-(the original)

October 13, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

getalife,

A couple more of your homies are in trouble

By the way, why do you suppose the AP left out the fact that they’re both Democrats?

By Politics Aside

October 13, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

I wish to issue a formal complaint against RW(the original) who posted an hour after posting was closed over at Luckovich, and I demand that Wooten and Luckovich ban RW from posting for a week.

The AJC scolded me with an email when I posted after hours once, and if we are not all treated equally, then the AJC is worse than communist china during the tianemin square massacre , or the Japanese during the Bataan Death march, or the Ice Capades during any one of their performances.

‘muff said.

By catlady

October 13, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

• I frequently use the semicolon to conjoin those arguments I would otherwise have to attach with duct tape.*

jbmlaw, while I frequently don’t agree with you, sometimes I just want to hug you! You ‘splain things in a way that lots of readers of this blog, who seem to have trouble with reading and writing, can understand.

Some of those who write the most scathingly about the ills of public education are poster boys/girls for their causes, with horrific spelling and flights of fantasy posing for actual critical thinking.

By Barry

October 13, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

Trash, you are not analchord. You dont have the talent, you see, Analchord was vicious, yes, and very clever with turning phrases and making people feel hurt and then hateful, but first and foremost he was funny. He was hilarious. I laughed to hard sometimes for hours at some of his comments.

You’re just some gaunt hollow bird chirping in the echoes of a great mythological giant. It’s embarrassing. But whatever….

By RW-(the original)

October 13, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

Polly As….,

I assure you sir, there was a comment box open so it must have been before seven. I have no control over the posting delay that must have caused your angst.

By Barry

October 13, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

I like what catlady said, except she left out the part where Jim Wooten duct-tapes jbmlaw’s mouth shut as part of some after blog program, and gets away with it thanx to an appeals court.

Also, if catlady has troubel w/readin’ and writin’, she might try subscribing to a science magazine like discover or science. Put those in the bathroom and everytime you pinch one off, read something. In one year you will be 10000X the mind you are now, trust me. the human brain is amazing, but you have to give it something, anything but porn and hate.

Meow.

By Barry

October 13, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

RW, anyone can post after hours by simply preserving the comment box. You are evil, and must be stopped. I demand the AJC ban you for breaking the no posting after hours rule.

I SAID DEMAND!!!!

By getalife

October 13, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

RW,

You should see the ads down here. All about corruption and is why that wingnut has a huge lead for governor. He is a corporacan but has fought for more oil money for the State (huge revenue) and they could use more business down here, we have water.

At least they have term limits and half of them will be gone.They are trying to address the issue unlike the feds.

Hell, Condi is covering up the corruption in Iraq.

By GodHatesTrash

October 13, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

Innocent people are dying in Iraq every day because of the animals the Wooten-klanners and the filth in the red states elected. Sorry if you’re not entertained by my posts.

By Dusty

October 13, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw@1:19,

Roast, repost, or toast..whatever…Lehner or Franken are not my heroes of soul-stirring condensation. Abraham Lincoln fills that place for me. I am always grateful for his superb simplicity. It soars.

By getalife

October 13, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

They have Jefferson on video taking 100 grand for selling influence so some charges will be dropped.

Most politicians do this everyday and one example was Boner passing out checks from Tobacco lobby on the floor of the House.

Might have something to do with the gop fighting the sin tax on cigarettes to fund children’s health care.

By getalife

October 13, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

“As the President rose to leave after 20 minutes, he said he hoped the visit would help the Falmouth, Maine, woman heal. Halley, 42, replied, “What would really help my healing is if you’d start finding a way to bring our troops home.”

“Now he’s dead,” Halley, an artist, says she told Bush, no longer able to contain her anger. “For what? I’ve lost my soul mate.”

“I am so sorry for your loss,” Bush said more than once.

Their conversation ended shortly after Halley began urging Bush to end the war. “We see things differently,” he told her.

Halley says the encounter wasn’t “sharp,” even with her strong words and emotions. As they parted, they shook hands, he kissed her on the cheek and gave her a souvenir presidential coin”

Geez.

By Severed Ties

October 13, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

Lincoln. Better angels of our nature. One of his best.

His best was this: “I’ve gleaned more intel on the enemy from reading skidmarks on my three day old underwear than anything McClellen has reported to me all summer.”

No wonder McClellen hated and conspired against Lincoln. Was there treason in McClellen’s refusal to attack when ordered (like Rummy’s refusal to attack OBL in the summer of 02)?

By jm

October 13, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

woodenduh - who was president in 1973 when the Endangered Species Act was signed into law (the reason being used to protect the mussels)?

Oh and to answer your question: Theodore Roosevelt - 1906. The nobel peace prize did not exist during Lincoln’s time.

By GodHatesTrash

October 13, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

At least the mussels are cleaning the water.

All rednecks do is add filth.

Give me mussels any day.

By jbmlaw

October 13, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Dear Catlady @ 1:47, thanks. Other than my four undergraduate years, I will acknowledge that I am a product of the public schools of a Southern state. I do not blame my teachers for my limitations, though.

Dear Dusty @ 2:20, I yield. I confess I have read little Lincoln, but I am familiar with many of his aphorisms.

By getalife

October 13, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

wingnuts are prolife but hate children’s health care.

Lets end this pro life hypocrisy.

That argument is history.

By Severed Ties

October 13, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

Pee Wee Herman has your mussel, Trash, right here!!

You sordid, putrid little unpinched yet prairie-doggin’ stool sample of a maggot nursery, why dont you just let go and join the counterclockwise circle jerque du bloweil of tricked-out flush puppies?

moron.

By time for the unvarnished but WANKING truth

October 13, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

The yanKKKee child rapist godKILLthistrashNOW/rednekkks NAMBLA has been willfully neglecting his whoralicious stipper mother and continues to proffer unhinged bollocks at his conservative betters.

gently goading yanKKKee SCUM like this brings utter glee to yours truly. Observe my fabulous display of joy whilst I wank myself to the glorious feeling of a black hippety hop thug with his racial spoils snout forcelfully thrusted up my arse whilst I eagerly give the obligatory reacharound to an illega mexican leech. such FABULOUS fun indeed.

huge I like being sandwiched by a black hippety hop thug and illegal mexican leech SMIRK

By Debra Jenkins

October 13, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

You stink, Truth. You haven’t written anything. Hell, you’re not even there.

By Wootenduh

October 13, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

{{{{By AmVet October 13, 2007 12:46 PM Retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, coalition commander in 2003 and 2004, called the Iraq war “a nightmare with no end in sight,”}}}}

Geez, let’s go find the guy most responsible for allowing al Qaeda to gain strength in Iraq and have him tell us how bad it is now that their former Sunni allies and General Patreaus are kicking their as-ses right out of the country, like the dogs that they are.

DimVet, can you and the Urinal not think these things through?

The dude is a whining little baby, throwing the perfect little pinko hissy fit cause the United States army, without him in command of it, is making him look like a dumb as-s.

I would be embarrassed, not crying like a baby.

Don’t you klowns have any modesty?

Duh.

~~~~~

{{{{By God’sTrash October 13, 2007 1:40 PM that have relocated here from the intellectual vacuum of the Chicago suburbs.}}}}

C-ock knock: You may want to look this one up, but the suburbs of Chicago are a just as blue as the f-ag neighborhood of Decatur that you live in.

Duh.

By getalife

October 13, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

The WSJ finds the mob:

But the Internet mob leapt to some dubious conclusions and claimed the Frost kids shouldn’t have been on Schip in the first place. As it turns out, they belonged to just the sort of family that a modest Schip is supposed to help.”

The pro life argument is history.

By getalife

October 13, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

Pro life eh?

New Evidence That Blackwater Guards Took No Fire

Slaughtering innocent people is not pro life.

It is a massacre, a genocide and just plain murder.

Give these people some justice because we spew, “liberty and justice for all.”

By Debra Jenkins

October 13, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

You stink, getalife, you havent’ written anything. Hell, you aren’t even there.

By getalife

October 13, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

Here is one for you PF and I yield you the blog:

Craig inducted in the Ida ho hall of fame:

Not because of his sex-sting arrest and an on-again, off-again guilty plea His GOP colleagues in the U.S. Senate may wish him gone. But Larry Craig will always have a home in the Idaho Hall of Fame. This Saturday in Boise, Craig will join 11 other distinguished citizens of the Gem State in what promises to be a squirm-worthy, wide stance induction ceremony.

By RW-(the original)

October 13, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

Cola wars break out in WalMArt

They must have the dateline wrong though since the UniVet told us the North was nothing the sophisticates and elite.

By AmVet

October 13, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

I have no idea how old Brig. General Sanchez is, but I don’t think it would matter one iota.

Not that he would ever have the guts to say it to the General’s face, but if in a drunken stupor, he did call him “a whining little baby, throwing the perfect little pinko hissy fit” I feel fairly confident Andy of many weekend names would have even fewer teeth left.

The poster boy of never-served, never-will keyboard kommandos from the lunatic fringe with courage from afar.

It is always sad but never surprising to see how the worst of these Americans supports the war but not the troops.

The irrefutable facts are that men who have given a lifetime of service to the US Armed Forces have infinitely more credibility, honor, wisdom, sacrifice and experience than the neo-con cretin bloggers here will ever have or could possibly imagine. And regardless of whether you agree with them or not, at least give them the respect they have earned.

Oh that’s right, I’m talking to the swift boat crowd and the Saxby Chambliss fans.

The war is a debacle and Sanchez’s is but one of the vast number of growing voices to say it.

Most Amricans are so sick of this “war” that I would imagine they too think too frickin bad that it p!sses off the “conservatives” to hear the truth but the rest of the nation no longer really cares what the inept who still endorse this train wreck of an administration think or do.

November 2008 is coming and I would predict another Republican bloodbath for this among numerous other reasons.

By Debra Jenkins

October 13, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

You stink, Amvet. You haven’t written anything. Hell, you aint even there.

By Glenn Gilbert

October 13, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw, respecting Holmes as a literary model, I thought, as I wrote at 11:42, that were you were referring to efficiency (“more with fewer words”) rather than to mere brevity. I don’t really care about brevity for its own sake, but to the extent that Holmes was relatively brief, I think the brevity was chiefly a function of his standing as a dissenter. Presumably no one disputes that he was the greatest stylist in the Court’s history, but though he was one of the American pioneers of post-Victorian prose, he still was far more glossy and even ornate than e.g. Douglas or Scalia or Black. So while I agree that OWH was stylistically exemplary, I can’t see that he set the best example of efficiency.

BTW, I see that you’ve been doing God’s work while I was away. Wouldn’t it be great to get Liddy in the same henhouse once again with that egg-laying Dean? Once I saw him debate Tim Leary when they were touring the lecture circuit together, Mutt&Jeff. It was good, clean fun, like WWF before steroids. Even though Liddy apparently used Leary as a floor mop every time, still somehow they managed to form a fond friendship.

Please don’t tag me as a credentialist, as I’ve always been the exact opposite. As far as I’m concerned, in this country someone else’s academic credentials should be as private as her religion or party affiliation or voting history. (I stole this chestnut from the late John Holt, who at some pains really lived this principle.) I listed Dupuy in response to your claim that “no rational economist has any qualms” about remanding education entirely to the open mkt. Is it relevant that Dupuy is to the right of Sowell, or would my saying so suggest that I resort to intimidating credentials as an excuse for argument?

As for the possibility that “the notion of institutional education” is inherently flawed, well, I don’t know anymore. I used to agree with those who made the argument, which turns out to be tantamount to a theological one. Now I’m not so sure. Certainly I sympathise with those who say that they want “fundamental change” or “restructuring” of the education system, but I’ve found only a couple of cases in which such people betray any solid understanding of what constitutes the system’s fundament or structure. I was trying to make the point that economists usually start with the assumption that universal education has to take place in an environment of scarce means. This strikes me, and others who may or may not have credentials of their own, as counterproductive. I see real, meaningful, useful, transforming learning happening all around me all the time; just not under conditions that serve to legitimate it. So I conclude that the project of educational economists is not really to maximize (or optimize) the means of education, and that their project must have other aims.

Up the semicolon!

By Who Lost Russia?

October 13, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

George did! With the help of Connie the c** Rice! Never put a Black person in an important position. The zionists are pushing this missle base in Poland etc as a defense against Iran, which in a way it is, as we will back off if Ivan stops helping the Iranians. Ha ha ha, once again my stupid fellow americans fail to notice that their pampered lives are being risked by the Washington zionists solely for the benefit of israel. An Americans like jmblaw, dirt woman, and JIM are too stupid to notice. Perchance they will notice the mushroom clouds that have just vaporied their children!

By AmVet

October 13, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

OK, off to friends for dinner. What a great way to end a beautiful day in Atlanta.

To my esteemed colleagues on the far right, enjoy the rest of your day with your little “conservative” hate fest here.

And just remember, we’re one day closer to being out from under the worst administration in US history.

Hallelujah.

By redneKKKs NAMBLA needs executing immediately alert!!

October 13, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

I see the puss filled, anal wart ridden homosexual obsessed godKILLthisyanKKKeechildrapisttrash has gone beserk on here this afternoon - clearly a month or two of being deservedly nightly gangraped in the child molestors wing of the VT state pen has made it even more depraved and deranged than usual. Damn shame the leper colony herpes ridden MS 13 swallowing worn out w hore that is the childrapisttrash’s mammy didn’t have KILLtheyanKKKeetrash aborted using both Draino and Raid all those years ago.

as for the execrable anally psychotic narcissistic dweeb aborted foreskin - a simple firm nudge into a vat of liquid oxygen would solve the problem immediately!!

By Debra Jenkins

October 13, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

You stink, RW. You haven’t written anything. Hell, you aint even there.

By Cartman

October 13, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

Look at all the filthy liberal losers who wasted an entire beautiful Saturday on a blog. Now isn’t that pathetic.

Hey, check this out. Mass might be the first state in the Union to legalize robot marriage.

“My forecast is that around 2050, the state of Massachusetts will be the first jurisdiction to legalize marriages with robots,” artificial intelligence researcher David Levy at the University of Maastricht in the Netherlands told LiveScience. Levy recently completed his Ph.D. work on the subject of human-robot relationships, covering many of the privileges and practices that generally come with marriage as well as outside of it.

You see, this is why liberalism is so sick. There’s no end to the insanity. Next it’s going to be iRobot the love fest in San Freaksicko. Can anyone else see how liberalism around the globe is going to send God down here to clean up his mistakes by wiping the slate clean?

By Cartman

October 13, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

I’d like to thank all the liberal wasteoids exposing their hatred for their fellow American taxpayers who aren’t collectivist blueballed bluestaters. It’s been rather illuminating. GHT led the liberal pack, and Wastedlife and AmWay did nothing but sing praises. More hate, please. Human waste.

By Wootenduh

October 13, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

{{{{By AmVet October 13, 2007 4:59 PM I have no idea how old Brig. General Sanchez is, but I don’t think it would matter one iota. Not that he would ever have the guts to say it to the General’s face, but if in a drunken stupor, he did call him “a whining little baby, throwing the perfect little pinko hissy fit” I feel fairly confident Andy of many weekend names would have even fewer teeth left.}}}}

DimVet: You may not be able to understand this, being that you are a panty waist anti American, but when you speak out against the mission that 160,000 American soldiers are risking their lives for, you have become a dishonorable POS.

This is called “aid and comfort” to the enemy, our Forefathers would have hung old ray by his scrawny neck.

Therefore, I called Sanchez a maggot or something like that.

Even further, it seems like you and your hero Sanchez, (I noticed you gritting your teeth when I dissed him, do you like his “swagger” or is it the dirty talk that attracts you?) seem to want Al Qaeda to win, and are awfully excitable about recent events, that being Al Qaeda getting wiped out.

Sucks, don’t it?

Wait till next year when we do in the Shiite extremists and there is nobody left to blow up innocent women and children.

I bet you’ll really be pis-sed then.

By Debra Jenkins

October 13, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

You stink, Cartman. You haven’t written anything. Hell, you aint even there.

By Cartman

October 13, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

24 hours later and the collective media is still wiping away the bodily fluids from the studios and cubicles due to one massive large Goregasm over the now worthless joke known as the Nobel.

Diane Sawyer: “Breaking news this morning: Former Vice President Al Gore wins the Nobel Peace Prize for helping awaken the world to global warming. Now is it time to run for president again?”

Oh HELL yes. RUN Algore, RUN! Throw monkey wrench in the old Wench’s party!

By Cartman

October 13, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

Debra Jankieass is stuck on stupid. Typical pigtailed liberal.

By Cartman

October 13, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

The Communist News Network has apparently outed the location of an artist who has offended radical Muslims. You know, those liberal tampon tongues over there at the CNN Center really don’t understand that the islamofascist terrorists really are not their friends. I keep hoping the emotionally challenged Depends-clad left will figure that one out some day too, but I doubt it.

By Glenn Gilbert

October 13, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

My dear eponymous Martinet of 12:36. Thanks for the literary advise. Sorry my tone-setting doesn’t work for you emotionally. I’ll use parallelisms anytime I like. Next time I so, I’ll tellya whatcha do: grasp the mouse, move the cursor to the vertical slider on the right border of your screen, and move on to some prose that preens your plumage. Is alliteration too much for you too? If so, call me assonant.

Just because you too have a funny way of writing, doesn’t mean I don’t respect the appositeness of your plumbing metaphor. It’s dead-on, and if Mr. Alford took his pedagogy seriously enough, he’d see that your plumbing analogy works to illustrate his argument for “performance” over “measurement”. I myself have used blacksmithing to make the point, but your plumbing thing may be better. I think it’d be worthwhile to extend the metaphor, when next the emotional tone is right.

By Wootenduh

October 13, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

{{{{Gore told the world in his Academy Award-winning movie to expect 20-foot sea-level rises over this century. He ignores the findings of his Nobel co-winners, who conclude that sea levels will rise between only a half-foot and two feet over this century, with their best expectation being about one foot. That’s similar to what the world experienced over the past 150 years.}}}}

{{{{Likewise, Gore agonizes over the accelerated melting of ice in Greenland and what it means for the planet, but overlooks the IPCC’s conclusion that, if sustained, the current rate of melting would add just 3 inches to the sea-level rise by the end of the century. Gore also takes no notice of research showing that Greenland’s temperatures were higher in 1941 than they are today.}}}}

{{{{The politician-turned-moviemaker loses sleep over a predicted rise in heat-related deaths. There’s another side of the story that’s inconvenient to mention: rising temperatures will reduce the number of cold spells, which are a much bigger killer than heat. The best study shows that by 2050, heat will claim 400,000 more lives, but 1.8 million fewer will die because of cold. Indeed, according to the first complete survey of the economic effects of climate change for the world, global warming will actually save lives.}}}}

{{{{Likewise, global warming will probably slightly increase malaria, but CO2 reductions will be far less effective at fighting this disease than mosquito nets and medication, which can cheaply save 850,000 lives every year. By contrast, the expensive Kyoto Protocol will prevent just 1,400 deaths from malaria each year.}}}}

Imagine how many lives would have been saved if the kandy as-s junk scientists like al-Gore hadn’t banned DDT, 850,000 children times 40 years, you do the math.

Do you ever hear a lib whine about 850,000 children dying every year, maybe they might be in favor of it, no?

POS liberal maggots.

By Cartman

October 13, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

Check this out: Ramadam in Memphis waving knives around and dancing. Ya think the good ‘ole mainstream liberal media would have had a slight little problem with Christians doing that? Methinkso.

By Cartman

October 13, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this

Inch by inch indeed, my friend.

Islamofascism: In a monumental nod to political correctness, the Empire State Building is to be lit up green in honor of the Muslim holiday Eid. The separation of Islam from terror is officially complete. Now, for the first time, New York’s remaining famous skyscraper will be aglow in green — the color of Islam — to mark the end of Ramadan, a month of intense Islamic renewal. Officials say it’ll be an annual event, in the same tradition of the yearly skyscraper lighting for Christmas and Hanukkah. What’s next, Ground Zero festooned with crescent moons and stars?

Uhm, yeah. Among other things. Oh, but the radical fascist Muslims think the Jews actually led 9/11, so that would make it ok their warped, 7th Century regressive repressive cave man world.

By Cartman

October 13, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

The fatass liberal town drunk intern drowner had a bypass and still eats ice cream. Some people are still living to be an example of how NOT to live, I presume. In more ways than one.

In more ways than one.

By Cartman

October 13, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

To my esteemed colleagues on the far right, enjoy the rest of your day with your little “conservative” hate fest here.

That, from AmWay, who enjoyed conversing with the Queen of satanic hate, GHT today. GHT, the girl who wants something “drastic” to happen to his fellow Americans who don’t live or think like him.

Liberals are such disgusting hypocrites it makes ME sick. And I can tolerate gutting a deer or fish.

By Debra Jenkins

October 13, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this

You stink, Wootenduh. You havent’ written anything. Hell, you aint even there.

By DemDems4Ever

October 13, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this

The problems in education are (according to posts today):

Teachers

Parents

Unmotivated students

The white man

The black man

All non-white men

Women

The intellectual liberals migrate to the teaching profession, according to one post, because the college major they chose provides no skills need in the private sector. And these are the intellectuals?

Perhaps then the real problem is we have liberals in the schools as teachers who have no practical skills, are unable to hold a “real job” and then impose their personal frustrations on the students (if I am a loser I will be sure to make losers of my students!).

Even if the schools are dominated by liberals the responsibility falls on the parents to point out to their children the errors in the curriculum and the ideology of the teacher.

The failures could be traced to any number of problems but the one-parent household has to be at the top of the list. There are far too many issues in raising a child, much less children, for a single parent to be able to address them all.

There are many success stories from single parent homes but I will wager those are the exception and not the rule.

So the liberal mindset no only leads our education programs but then fosters the failures through the liberal mantra of “if it feels good, do it” regardless of the consequences for the children.

Yeah, I can see how you would call the liberals - “intellectual”. What a joke!

By RW-(the original)

October 13, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

Got that? We can’t win without our allies, who are deserting us, but we must continue on to achieve victory, which is impossible because we lack a grand strategy, so we should probably start reducing troop levels and let the Iraqis take over, except that this is “the greatest challenge of our lifetime” and we owe it to our soldiers to win, which is why our leaders must come up with a plan that rises above partisanship, which is never, ever going to happen with the public trending Democratic and 60-65% already demanding withdrawal and an election a year away. It’s like saying, “Victory is within reach — if only the American people were completely different.” Thanks for the helpful advice, General. Like Eric Egland says (and Col. Paul Yingling before him), where were you when this Rx might have been even minimally useful?

Not only that, but the media completely ignore the fact that the first half of Sanchez’ speech is blasting the media for being aligning themselves with political agendas.

By Literato

October 13, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this

Anyone who believes Atlas Shrugged is literature, instead of a cliche-ridden, overwrought, overlong cartoonish paean to the worst aspects of human nature, replete with Good and Evil comic book characters who somehow manage to be pompous and boring while they wallow in grade school sexuality should mail back his High School diploma.

It is, like Kerouac’s On the Road, a book you read at 16 or 17, and grow far beyond by the age of 18 or 19 — if you have any intellect whatsoever.

A pity Kerouac and Ayn Rand never met to make Heroic Love in the Village, circa 1958 … maybe produce a Heroic Love Child to lead the rest of America to … what … Satori on Wall Street maybe?

What a waste …

By Cartman

October 13, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

Sanchez is a pandering and REAL military betrayer who deserves to be stripped of his uniform and shipped out of this nation permanently. What a coward.

By jm

October 13, 2007 7:45 PM | Link to this

Wootenduh - Once again, who was President in 1972 when DDT was banned. Funny, I never thought of Richard Nixon as a liberal but according to Wootenduh, he was. Gotta love revisionist history.

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Since we’re playing irrelevant Presidential trivia, who was President when the US stopped spraying DDT in 1964?

By GaLiberal

October 14, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Moron Jim says: Alford, incidentally, was a Democrat when he served in the General Assembly and may still be. I’ve never asked, nor does it matter.

Well, if it doesn’t matter, Moron Jim, then why bring it up? I know exactly why you and your neocon adherents do these type of things. It doesn’t outright call into question someones credentials or motivations, but does so by implication. Typical Rethuglicon tactic. Like putting up a billboard with Max Cleland, bin Laden, and Saddam all side-by-side. No one actually said Cleland was like these despot, but the implication wasn’t lost on the voters. But that’s all you and your ilk have; to bash people and wonder in subdued tones about their worth. But have someone dare question Der Bush, and boy do the neocon nutjobs come unglued. Nutjobs like Moron Jim and his adherents. Like any pig, Moron Jim, when you roll in the mud and $hit, the stink sticks to you. And boy to do you and your kind really stink.

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Literato! @6:33 Excellent comment! Now there’s some raw talent I can work with. You came real close to the blog of the day. Dont post after hours, or I’ll have to insist that you be banned along with RW(the oranal) Cartman, last warning, and the term liberal has evolved from it’s definition in the 70’s when Nixon was proud to be labeled a liberal. The term Republican has changed 2. so has Know Nothings. Now there’s a literal translation that used to mean one thing in 1800 and now means that you know nothing and are a complete and total 23 point clinical criteria match for stooge.

Wooten’s article has not been discussed, as usual. You myspacers are not following the rules. What are the three big problems with schools? Are they the same three problems for each school, or do they vary from school to school, with the only constant being that there are only three problems? Why are problems with schools like the problems with Grady Hospital? What is a phoenix? Is there effective feedback for policy changes to allow for corrections if the policy changes prove to be ineffective?

What attributes would any solution have to address the problems that the 180 school systems in Georgia now face? Would it be “statewide standards, local control, with accountability at the individual school level”?

Is wooten saying that bromides will fix the problem? Look, it takes an expert to solve the problem, it takes an expert to solve the problem, it takes an expert to solve the problem. I volunteer my expertise to solve the problem with ga schools. (and I can do it without posting after hours).

By DemDems4Ever

October 14, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

Quotes from the GaLiberal

Typical Rethuglicon tactic.

that’s all you and your ilk have; to bash people

and boy do the neocon nutjobs come unglued. Nutjobs like Moron Jim

Like any pig, Moron Jim, when you roll in the mud and $hit, the stink sticks to you.

Another example of the intellectual liberal who has quite a way with words. You do offer some persuasive arguments there and I am certain a large number of readers will jump to your side as a result.

Looks more like all the GaLiberal has is to “bash people”.

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

Good morning Polly,

I thought your problem was my posting after seven. Your a hard schizophrenic to please.

By Dusty

October 14, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

GA Liberal @10:44

Your language is despicable. What brought that on? Because Jim Wooten mentioned that someone was a Democrat? From your reflections, I gather you think it is a disgrace to be named a Democrat.

Back up, boy! As much as I disagree with many Democrats, I hardly think it is a disgrace to be one. Neither does Jim Wooten and he said so. So wash your mouth out and relax. You’ll get over it. At least, I hope so.

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Okay, Galiberal, that’s a foul. Robert’s Rules of Order demand that we be gentlemen first. Wooten, let me apologize for the rude, crude, and socially unacceptble Galiberal. He’s apparently been trapped on a submarine with sailors for 19 years and doesn’t know any better.

RW, you are the only one playing prez trivia with yourself posting as aliases, like you do all day long. Nobody’s fooled, but I demand that you be banned for posting after hours.

Jim Wooten: Please ban RW for posting after hours against the rules. If you dont insist on accountability, then how can we fix the schools you wrote about? RW has to go. One week aint askin’ much, sir. RW, if you have any respect for yourself, you’ll voluntarily ban yourself from posting for one week.

‘muff said.

By Glenn Gilbert

October 14, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Folks, the Democrat vs. Republican thing doesn’t work all the time. Partisan political matters are important, sure, but what’s the point of all the oversimplified baiting and counter-charges? Both major parties share responsibility for the screwed up school system, the subject of Jim’s column. Presidents from both parties have received the Nobel Prize for Peace (which, along with the lit. prize and the Academy Award and Olympic medals, long ago was devalued beyond redemption — to say nothing of Cynthia Tucker’s Pulitzer). Both parties bear responsibility for getting us into Vietnam, and they also share responsibility for getting us out. In this very column, the Republican Wooten has found a Democrat and former legislator who’s lately been talking more sense than most. Sure, the parties have their differences, thank God, and we all choose sides, but at some point the name-calling is just shrill nonsense that sounds especially off when troops are being dismembered and hordes of schoolchildren are being expensively folded-spindled-and-mutilated for no good reason. If you guys know about DDT, great. Why then don’t you enlighten us as to whether banning it was, on balance, wise or unwise? I’d actually like to know. I can’t think that anybody cares which party was in power when the ban was instituted. See what I mean?

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Polly Prepuce,

I just got back after about six months of being away from Wooten’s.

Besides, what would your shtick be without me?

By Dusty

October 14, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

Oh hush, Rule of Law at PoFo’s place,

I like to read RW’s good stuff. He’s got a brain and he’s fast on his feet. As to the rest of you….oh well…never mind.

By Glenn Gilbert

October 14, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Rule of Law, I’ve addressed Jim’s column consistently since its publication. Others in this string have taken it head-on.

Your fine questions, I agree, warrant attention (at any hour). I too wondered what were The Three problems. Not two, or four, or one hundred eighteen? Column’s lead is flawed in this way. You already know what a phoenix is, and it’s the answer to your question about Grady, which I think was mentioned merely so that Wooten could borrow the quote about blowing things up and starting fresh. (In these parts, nicer to evoke the phoenix image than the Sherman one.) That’s a great point you made about building into the overall plan a method for the perpetual refinement or alteration (or reversal) of the reform effort. I believe that all professional planners know ways of doing this, so probably it is something that’s readily addressed. Your final two questions not so; they alone warrant three columns.

That’s three, not two and not four.

By time for the enlightened informative truth

October 14, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

this sick far left dogturd GA unhinged liberal sure does elicit loads of sniggers with its deranged lies and cretinous psychotic puke.

looks like this sad moderate anally tedious patronising arsewipe g gilbert has been out early sniffing DDT this morning.

FREAKING HILARIOUS to YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN see that yet another moronic thuggish black hippety hop scumbag has been arrested in Atlanta on serious gun charges, even funnier it was just before America’s most racist cable channels’ meaningless irrelevant ‘awards’ that virtually no one in the US gives a flying sh!te about!!. And another jail house thuggish black hippety hop HO is refusing to go to court from its NYC jail cell. I guess this is what folks like Bill Cosby call “acting black”.

Best comment so far on the worthless pandering far left Norwegian debacle

Gore’s prize: A fraud on the people

Five Norwegians gave a prize to Al Gore, and all the world is supposed to heed his counsel henceforth. No, thanks.

Alfred Nobel felt horrible about the uses to which his invention — dynamite — was put. So he endowed the Nobel Peace Prize and instructed that it go “to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between the nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.”

Al Gore has done exactly none of those things.

Gore, however, did write a book and make a film about global warming. He has become the second environmental activist to win the peace prize in the past four years. Wangari Muta Maathai won it in 2004 for planting trees.

Thus we have indisputable confirmation that the Nobel Peace Prize is no longer a serious international award. In 1994 the five Norwegian politicians who award the prize gave it to the murdering thug Yasser Arafat. Two years before that they gave it to literary fraud Rigoberta Menchu, whose autobiography was largely fabricated. (An example: The brother she supposedly watched die of malnutrition was later found by a New York Times reporter to be very much alive and well.)

On Friday the prize was given to Al Gore and the International Panel on Climate Change. Two days before, a British judge ruled that Gore’s film, “An Inconvenient Truth,” contained so many errors (read: lies) that it could be shown in British public schools only if accompanied by a fact sheet correcting the errors.

The Nobel Peace Prize is worse than a joke. It’s a fraud. It is such a transparent fraud that the five Norwegian politicians who award it have been reduced to defending their decision by concocting elaborate rationalizations. This year they laughably claimed that Gore deserves the prize because, well, global climate change” may induce large-scale migration and lead to greater competition for the Earth’s resources,” and “there may be increased danger of violent conflicts and wars.” (Emphasis ours.)

And Islamic terrorists may give up jihad and sing Kumbaya after listening to old Cat Stevens records. But that’s no basis for distributing the world’s formerly most prestigious prize.

If winning this useless medal prompts Al Gore to get into the presidential race, which we doubt, the irony will be that the American people will turn a more skeptical eye to His Smugness than the Nobel committee did.

The American public won’t accept at face value Gore’s self-righteous proclamations or his self-serving predictions of looming global catastrophy. And Gore has to know that, which is why he will almost certainly stick to the world of make-believe — Hollywood and International Do-Goodery — where he can pretend to be the great sage and savior he wishes he really were and left-wing Europeans and thespians try to convince us he is.

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

I must have really hurt RW for him to troll this blog so persistently, eh? Ditto duh. (ditto duh, pretty good, eh?)

But I really did get a scalding email telling me not to post after hours from the luckovich blog. That they would single me out is baffling, since I’m the only reason the blog exists, and the only commenter who doesn’t reply to himself, the way RW does with one hand, (his other hand is reacting to pop up goat porn)

bwa

Dusty, Galiberal is using buzzwords he’s hacked from some of my blogs (last night I wrote the word, “You Stink” many times etc.) trying to make it look like I’m the one who posted that to jim wooten. There are lot’s of bloggers who do that, trying to be analchord. For years. Galiberal has to be RW(the oranal). RW is a troll. He’s unstable and I know that’s true due in large part to the pitiful way I creamed him in the past. I’m sorry. I apologize, I was only teasing, and yet you see that RW takes his blogging to heart, (and it’s a fine heart too!)

I dont know why Wooten or Lucko doesn’t ban RW for after-hours posting, But when even his aliases are posting after hours, then you know he’s flown over.

Fly little RW, fly over….back to GLW…there he goes….tweet tweet……bwa

bwa say hello to stella

By Glenn Gilbert

October 14, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Rule of Law, my 9:22PM of Oct. 9, re Jim’s previous column on this subject, I now think to a stab, in advance, at your final questions.

By Sailor

October 14, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

the Sailor said Andi/e-duh, you’re a fine girl

Greetings - my gal pal Andie/duh is all worked up about this Sanchez fella. S/he got so worked up last night s/he gave me a Dirty Sanchez. Sat there and ate it with a plastic knife and fork.

Oh wait - that’s nothing new.

Nevermind.

By Dusty

October 14, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Rule of Law at PoFo’s house, 11:45

Hate to tell you but GaLib’s common language is indeed common…very common. No need for you to claim it.

By the way, PoFo, how many times did you post on the day you were reprimanded for “after hours”? Considering all IDs, was it 50, 75, 100? That might be why the “monitors” suddenly noticed that you were running late (and profusely).

By the way, when is your next comedy show at Little Five Points?

By Wootenduh

October 14, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

{{{{Giuliani also trotted out another stump tactic that seemed to thrill the audience of Republicans, using a dream he said he has had “at least five times” to mock the Democratic White House contenders. In the dream, he said, the three leading Democratic candidates, Clinton, Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) and former senator John Edwards (N.C.) are flying on a plane together to France, where they planned to get “failed” ideas on public policy that the ex-mayor said would transform America into a socialist country. At the same time, he said, new French President Nicolas Sarkozy is flying to the United States to bring “our quintessential American principles” back to his nation.}}}}

Uh, Rudy, abortion.

Can you say “I’m against it?”

{{{{“How about the goal of the United States of America in Iraq is victory,” he said later, to loud applause in the Rock Hill speech. “How about success defined as an Iraq that is stable and will act as an ally for us … then we withdraw the troops… . The president used this expression and I wish he would use it more: ‘return on success.’ They should be brought home on success.”}}}}

That’s what I’m talking about.

~~~~~~

{{{{Now, a White House crackdown on illegal immigrants has forced Big Business out into the open.-Queen Pinko, Urinal}}}}

Yes, the Big Bad Bushie, boogeyman for the infantile of the left, always their personal Freddy Krueger, hahaha, will they ever grow up?

Bush is more of an open borders advocate than you are, Sinthia.

It was the likes of me that forced the “crackdown”

{{{{A bipartisan group of senators worked for months on a plan that would increase spending on border protection; penalize employers who hire illegally; and provide a winding route to citizenship for illegal immigrants who worked hard, learned English and paid fines. But after a backlash from the right-wing fringe, some of those same senators, men such as Georgians Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson, backed away from the deal.}}}}

Do I need to go into detail here?

Remember the “bipartisan plan” that was rightfully called amnesty?

Duh?

{{{{But U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer of San Francisco noted that Social Security’s records are full of errors and could unfairly target legal workers. He also blasted the administration for failing to conduct a survey of the costs of the new rule to small businesses.}}}}

Ah, another fine example of why we should turn the health care industry over to the government, what I’m hearing from the pinko is they can’t even keep track of your social security numbers, so yes, we should let them perform surgery on us, duh.

Geez.

~~~~~~~

HELP WANTED: Wanted, a newspaper journalist who can explain how al-Gore won the nobel “peace” prize in 5000 words or less. No other experience necessary. The current applicant with the lowest number is at 12,632 words and still has readers shaking their heads in wonderment. We know this will be a tough task to overcome, so we have set the pay and benefits accordingly. The Atlanta Urinal Constitution is an “equal” opportunity employer, as long as you are a democrat, an exceptionally good liar, have an extensive socialist background and above all, hate George Bush. Conservatives need not apply.

~~~~~~

{{{{The potential for conflict (due to “global warming”) is more than theoretical. Turkey, Syria and Iraq bristle over the Euphrates and Tigris rivers. Sudan, Ethiopia and Egypt trade threats over the Nile. The United Nations has said water scarcity is behind the bloody wars in Sudan’s Darfur region. In Somalia, drought has spawned warlords and armies.}}}}

Heh, and here I thought they were suicide bombing women and children because of Islam.

Couldn’t we send them a few truckloads of Evian and call it even?

~~~~~~~

{{{{By jm October 13, 2007 7:45 PM Wootenduh - Once again, who was President in 1972 when DDT was banned. Funny, I never thought of Richard Nixon as a liberal but according to Wootenduh, he was. Gotta love revisionist history.}}}}

I never knew that Richard Nixon wrote a scare book ominously called “Silent Spring” that hysterically told of the horrors DDT might inflict on little baby bird eggs, even though it hadn’t for 50 some years that it had been sprayed on all of America.

Maybe his pseudonym was “Rachel Carson?”

So from here forward, since sitting presidents can be blamed for listening to junk scientists and any harm that may befall millions of African children because of it, I say that it should be against the law to listen to environmentalists.

Think of all the lives we would save.

By AmVet

October 14, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

Firstly, I will not support one of the Democratic front runners. Not one. Not until much later and not unless I absolutely have to to keep another inept neo-con out of the West Wing.

Governor Bill Richardson is hands down the most qualified, of ALL of the candidates, to be President but many Americans will again swallow down the spin of the PR machines who promote style over substance, as evidenced by our current commander-in-chief winning the past two elections though he was clearly in WAY over his head.

And speaking of revisionist history, how comical is it that Mitt Romney now says he is the REAL Republican?

McCain bristles, Rudy probably thinks, “Who cares, he’s a Mormon and is DOA” and Thompson may well be thinking, “Uh, what?”.

And all the while the misanthropic, lunatic fringe here pretends that the writing is not on the wall.

Not one of the “faithful” would EVER admit that the GOP is completely screwed up right now, nor that it is obvious the front runners have nary a clue about how to go forward with the numerous debacles left to America, much less what to say or do other than trotting out the usual platitudes and “staying the course”. That and if you’re Rudy, keep screaming 9/11!

And they are practically cr@pping in their pants trying to get their act together to demonstrate to the country that they have any real credibility, with centrists moderates or the now MIA Reagan-Democrats, to not continue this nearly seven year long exercise in running a government into the ground and mismanaging practically everything they get their hands on.

Fortunately, I sense that the vast percentage of the voters in this country have no illusions that these are going to be men with the vision and courage to move away from an utterly failed and repudiated philosophy - neo-conservatism - and take the party once again in a sane, healthy direction.

So for the next year, these GOP candidates are primarily going to provide some comedic value as they trip over their collective tongues trying to explain away/apologize for their shared devotion and support of the policies of the worst administration and Presidency in the nation’s history.

And the more rabid in the base will practically eat their “not religious enough” inter-party rivals.

Sure they know what it is to be a neo-con, but a REAL Republican?

Puhleassseee.

I predict another GOP bloodbath coming in November 2008, courtesy of the American electorate.

And many of us are just going to sit back and watch the train wreck.

By death to all supercilious hysterical leftist anal nutters

October 14, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

Instead of po fo it really should be mo fo … that would be a fitting, apposite witty comedic ‘play’ on this anal arsewipe’s NEVER ENDING stream of pathetic narcissistic putrid id’s.

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Geez! How far do you have to scroll to get past the Uniblogger’s drivel that starts at 12:03?

Wootenduh,

The ban was instituted by EPA director William Rucklehouse (sp) and never rose to the level of the White House or even Congress for that matter.

He also went against the findings of the panel he had put together to study DDT without ever attending a single hearing.

By getalife

October 14, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

Our humanity has been compromised by those who use Gestapo tactics in our war. The longer we stand idly by while they do so, the more we resemble those “good Germans” who professed ignorance of their own Gestapo. It’s up to us to wake up our somnambulant Congress to challenge administration policy every day. Let the war’s last supporters filibuster all night if they want to. There is nothing left to lose except whatever remains of our country’s good name.

Lets say Hillary becomes President and starts detaining Americans, without a lawyer or a trial, who bash her. Arrest you for wearing an anti Clinton T- shirt. Arrest you for speaking out ar her speeches.

Will you agree with this detainment? Is it okay if she spies on you without a warrant? What if she tortures you or renditions you to be tortured? What if she breaks into your house without a warrant and takes your computer?

These are the freedoms you allowed w and cheney to steal from you. These are the freedoms you never get back.

By jbmlaw

October 14, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Dear Glenn @ 5:09, excellent argument. I confess I still do not understand your critique on education, but I concede/agree with you on Holmes. Further, I confess my ignorance of Dupuy, and although I remain unfamiliar with his argument I plead guilty to overstatement, borne of my affection for Friedman’s argument for vouchers. Kudos for your 5:45 humorous response to “Martinet” (actually our old friend Political Foreskin, resident comedian on the blog, who posts under multiple names, including “Rule of Law.”)

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Before I head out to the track let me leave a question for the blog.

When all you moonbat(ic)s® were calling for the head of the commanding General in Iraq during the Abu Ghraib mess did you realize that you would be hailing him as your latest hero just a few short years later?

All he had to do to sway you was to say “Bush sux” and you’re with him all the way. Pretty shallow don’t you think?

By getalife

October 14, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

Yes RW,

You are a “good little German” who spewed Abu Ghraib was okay and still believe w does not torture.

Shallow?

More like a “good little German.”

Keep cheering on the Gestapo RW but be careful when Hillary President. You just mind end up in Gitmo.

By Wootenduh

October 14, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Sailor October 14, 2007 11:55 AM the Sailor said Andi/e-duh, you’re a fine girl Greetings - my gal pal Andie/duh is all worked up about this Sanchez fella. S/he got so worked up last night s/he gave me a Dirty Sanchez. Sat there and ate it with a plastic knife and fork.}}}}

al-Gitmo: Say, why do you keep reaching up under my restroom stall like this?

Are you freaking weird or what?

Sicko.

By getalife

October 14, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

In the documentary on PBS, about WWWII there was a German town next to a concentration camp.

When they liberated that camp they asked the Germans if they knew about it. The Germans and said no but they knew they were lying because the stench of death was too strong in this town.

They made the all the Germans in this town bury all the bodies to see this horror.

I think our wingnuts are these Germans. How can we make these wingnuts see the horror w has caused? How can make them see the freedoms lost, the crimes committed and the honor lost for our country?

Should we make them go to Iraq and bury the bodies or here in America burying the troops? Walter Reed to see the injured? Gitmo, to see the detained?

What will it take wingnuts to see what w has done to our country?

By @@

October 14, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

There’s nothing quite as disturbing to me than a military leader, Sanchez crying over spilled milk after the fact. When John McCain expressed his concern for the original strategy under Sanchez, the general’s response was “It is the right stuff.” Now it was “the wrong stuff”????

Give me a break! Suck it up through a straw General Sanchez. Missed opportunities can’t be blamed on somebody else. You own ‘em.

What did the NYTs have that they could contribute to this debate - like I have to ask?

But Fontenot, who commanded a battalion in the Persian Gulf War and a brigade in Bosnia and has since retired, said he questioned whether Americans really wanted a four-star general to stand up publicly and say no to the president in a nation where civilians control the armed forces.

For the sake of argument, a question from the reporter was posed: If enough four-star generals had done that, would it have stopped the war?

“Yeah, we’d call it a coup d’etat,” Fontenot said. “Do you want to have a coup d’etat? You kind of have to decide what you want. Do you like the Constitution, or are you so upset about the Iraq war that you’re willing to dismiss the Constitution in just this one instance and hopefully things will be OK? I don’t think so.”

Some of the young officers said they were unimpressed by retired officers who spoke up against Rumsfeld in April 2006. The retired generals had little to lose, they argued, and their words would have mattered more had they been on active duty. “Why didn’t you do that while you were still in uniform?” Maj. James Hardaway, 36, asked.

By Week In Review

October 14, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

Al Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize.

Senator Larry Craig (Republican) elected into the Idaho Hall of Fame.

By getalife

October 14, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Still hating the troops.

sigh

It is the policy stupid, stop bashing the troops!

Pathetic.

By AmVet

October 14, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

Trump was right. This horrific administration is nothing but third rate amateurs who couldn’t negotiate ANYTHING of importance, even a fair trade agreement, if their very lives depended on it.

And still their dwindling idiotic fans still think this is a great run by the GOP.

What an approach - “export” 3 MILLION manufacturing jobs since 2001, among many other MILLIONS of American jobs - and then say, “Not to worry, we’ll put up a pittance to retrain you for something else.”

But don’t complain if there is a shortage of comparable high quality, good paying jobs that you could actually get.

Look at the list below - things are rosy if you want to be a bartender or a temp.

But this economy is robust so the administration tells us! Yet middle class families must wonder. Gas is nearly $3 a gallon, insurance premiums have risen 87%(!!!) in six years, and education costs are putting it out of reach for millions.

The average middle class family has actually seen their buying ERODE by $1300 a year since you know who was elected/selected.

Of the 274,000 April jobs, 18,000 were in the government sector, and 211,000 of these were in the service sector as follows: 58,000 in leisure and hospitality (primarily restaurants and bars), 47,000 in construction, 29,200 in wholesale and retail trade, 28,000 in health care and social assistance, 17,300 in administrative and support services (primarily temps), 11,700 in transportation and warehousing, 8,800 in real estate.

And haven’t we learned at he foot of the master, Ronnie Reagan, that the trickle down theory is the only answer to any of our economic woes?! Too bad it just doesn’t work.

A larger percentage than ever of the wealthy are not creating jobs anymore.

At least this gutless neo-con administration could hand out a bottle of complimentary Vaseline to millions of American workers with each “free” trade agreement.

“I know many Americans feel uneasy about new competition and worry that trade will cost jobs,” Bush said. “So the federal government is providing substantial funding for trade adjustment assistance that helps Americans make the transition from one job to the next.*

“We are working to improve federal job-training programs. And we are providing strong support for America’s community colleges, where people of any age can go to learn new skills for a better, high-paying career.”

By Dusty

October 14, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw,

Wooten quotes Alford as saying our public school systems were no longer suitable because they were built for a homogenous world. Homogenous?

I didn’t think we were ever homogenous. Do you think Alford was trying to say something in a nice way that he wouldn’t say with specifics?

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

SO if throwing money at ga schools is not the answer, then what is the answer? Wooten said that the answer lays in setting state standards with local control and acountability.

What does that specifically mean?

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

Wooten claims that it took a 23 member commission 3 years to state that the current system doesn’t work and to come up with generic solutions about local accountability. This is starting to sound like there is nothing to do but throw money at the problem.

Theres even a plan to allow local schools to “buy” their way out of state wide mandates if they can arrange side deals that promise to increase graduation rates and other measures of successful fulfillment.

When it takes a language expert to translate the way a problem is framed and when the solutions to that problem all sound like generic bromides, then there really is a problem.

By Wootenduh

October 14, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife October 14, 2007 1:05 PM I think our wingnuts are these Germans. How can we make these wingnuts see the horror w has caused? How can make them see the freedoms lost, the crimes committed and the honor lost for our country?}}}}

al-Gitmo: So where does al Qaeda fit into your little fantasy world?

By getalife

October 14, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

I am with the Marines to go after them in Afghanistan.

You know, the people who attack us on 9/11.

Remember 9/11, where you hero spewed on the bullhorn to go after the ones who attacked the towers and then gave OBL amnesty?

The Marines will not grant OBL amnesty like that coward.

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

That’s the first step: to admit that there is a problem in ga with our schools. Admitting that means writing emails to county school boards.

So email your local school board soon and express your concern. See what feedback you get and report to wooten.

Lets start the process. Isn’t that what this blog is about?

By time to mercilessly laugh at the leftist vermin

October 14, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

keep ranting commie creep arsehole vet and the illegal Cuban greaseball getaturd … your unhinged embittered unpatriotic leftist puke is almost enormously amusing!!

Who - other than a lying leftist dissembling traitor - recalls Sanchez noisily sneering at military policy/tactics in Iraq when HE was in charge??? He wanted his time in the limelight!! Now with the (admittedly somewhat tardy) effective change of tactics and the distinct glimmer of changing political realities are (respectively) working and looking like possibly working Sanchez suddenly whips out his bleating retrospective book of sneers.

A huge thank U to godKILLthisyanKKKeetrash for promptly returning to jail after yesterday’s unwarranted VT child sex predator day pass.

By Glenn Gilbert

October 14, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

By time for the enlightened informative truth, are you the sonofabuzzard who called me a “sad moderate anally tedious patronising arsewipe”, then: you’re right. Just don’t call me moderate. Also, thanks for reiterating at length my point about the pointlessness of Nobels for peace & for lit.

Dusty, thanks for doing the clean-up work.

jbmlaw, howdy. Didn’t mean to prattle, but you seemed to want an argument and, agreeing with you about education and government, and never having read Ayn Rand, I couldn’t figure out what else to argue with you about. I want to take up your last challenge about education, and Rule of Law’s and Dusty’s also, as it seems that you three especially are converging (if that’s even legal over the Internet). About which, more anon.

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Its very hard to debate the Iraq War anymore. It’s all been said. Now it’s left up to the fighting men and women to endure what is coming.

One thing stands out: there aren’t anymore predictions being made. I think that until a candidate emerges clearly in the primaries, then Iraq goes on the back burner served only with bromides and platitudes.

Notice how the bloggers debate Iraq here with, “you’re the terrorist, I’m the patriot”, repetition?

They settled into that linquistic quagmire about a year ago, and havent’ advanced the discussion one iota since then. Real head wounds, eh?

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

“Real head wounds” describes the blogger’s debating skills on this site very well indeed, dont you think?

Try the gauze.

By Ronaldo

October 14, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

you’re right Rule of Law, lets wipe our a* with $20 bills.

real hatchet wounds.

By getalife

October 14, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

“Sen Lindsey Graham has said that if the Iraqi government does not resolve the issues before it within 90 days, it will be ‘a failed state’ and the U.S. will have to consider ‘political change’.”

Brilliant, now they want a timeline.

Is he a cut and run idiot, idiots?

Geez.

By Wootenduh

October 14, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

al-Gitmo: So where does this war monger fit into your weird little fantasy world?:

{{{{And Senator Hillary Rodham Klintoon? “She” voted in favor of the measure in question, which asked the Bush administration to declare Iran’s 125,000-member Revolutionary Guard Corps a foreign terrorist organization. Such a move — more hawkish than even most of the Bush administration has been willing to venture so far — would intensify America’s continuing confrontation with Iran, many foreign policy experts say.}}}}

“She’s” your little neopinko.

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

thank you, geronimo.

By getalife

October 14, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

duh,

She will use diplomacy idiot.

Remember diplomacy?

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Greenbay’s offensive coordinator is letting the team down. It’s too obvious when he wants to pass and it’s too easy to defend. Greenbay will be lucky to win today.

By Glenn Gilbert

October 14, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

Yes, the war is so damned serious that’s it’s hard to blog about it. Especially if you try to be responsible, for example by writing as if you’ve got, looking over your shoulder, a friend or family member on the way to or from Iraq or Afghanistan. Vets can joke about it grimly if they want, but I’m not one and can’t do so.

By getalife

October 14, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Like all “good little Germans” after they lost WWII, wingnuts will be marginalized and should STFU.

Your party failed to govern, so sit back, shut up and let the real Americans repair your damage.

She will send out ambassadors like Joe Wilson to tell the world the cowboy diplomacy is history. They will have to apologize and make reparations to try to get our honor back.

It will take decades and hope w did not bankrupt our morals like he did our treasury.

By Wootenduh

October 14, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

Oh, my:

{{{{ONE of the world’s foremost meteorologists has called the theory that helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize “ridiculous” and the product of “people who don’t understand how the atmosphere works”.}}}}

{{{{Dr William Gray, a pioneer in the science of seasonal hurricane forecasts, told a packed lecture hall at the University of North Carolina that humans were not responsible for the warming of the earth.}}}}

{{{{“We’re brainwashing our children,” said Dr Gray, 78, a long-time professor at Colorado State University. “They’re going to the Gore movie [An Inconvenient Truth] and being fed all this. It’s ridiculous.”}}}}

{{{{But Dr Gray, whose annual forecasts of the number of tropical storms and hurricanes are widely publicised, said a natural cycle of ocean water temperatures - related to the amount of salt in ocean water - was responsible for the global warming that he acknowledges has taken place.}}}}

{{{{However, he said, that same cycle meant a period of cooling would begin soon and last for several years.}}}}

{{{{“We’ll look back on all of this in 10 or 15 years and realise how foolish it was,” Dr Gray said.}}}}

I already know how foolish you liberals are.

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Gitmo,

Will she use the same kind of diplomacy as Jimmah?

I kind of feel sorry for him these days. Did you see him say just the other day that the diplomats imprisoned in Iran under his watch were negotiating? He even called them his hostages.

He also said if had only had one more helicopter he would be a hero for rescuing those diplomats from “negotiating.” Did he even know he the entire US military at his disposal? I’m pretty sure somebody had a helicopter he could have borrowed.

We can probably put up with Democrats safely debating the Ottoman Empire in Congress, but we can’t afford to have them in the White House ever again.

By Wootenduh

October 14, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

And now for the money quote:

{{{{He said his beliefs had made him an outsider in popular science. “It bothers me that my fellow scientists are not speaking out against something they know is wrong,” he said. “But they also know that they’d never get any grants if they spoke out. I don’t care about grants.”}}}}

By AmVet

October 14, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

At the risk of being rhetorical, to me the comparisons between todays neo-con fans and some of the German citizenry of the 1930s and 40s is striking, getalife.

You have two classes of people in both cases.

There are those who are complicit in assisting the government to further its aims by helping in restricting personal freedoms and liberty, targeting the “enemy” within and providing money.

These include your low level politicians, lobbyists/corporatists/plutocrats and the religious power brokers/frauds.

Then you have the second type, which much more closely fits the extreme and sociopathic neo-cons here.

They are not in a position to have any significant influence, as they certainly don’t own companies, have any real wealth or have the ear of their local government flunky. They are essentially harmless, impotent and rage-filled and are usually your garden variety suck ups/sell outs.

Then when the horrors are over, they in unison throw their arms up in the air and pretend to be ignorant saying, “If we had only known!”.

In some ways these represent the very worst of society and though they are not terribly uncommon here, fortunately for the nation, they represent a tiny percentage of Americans. And even that small number continues to dwindle.

And now many of the GOP candidates themselves, for both Congress and the White House, do the dance and euphemistically call it things like “a different direction” but in reality are trying desperately not to be ultra-obvious about treating Bush/Rove/Cheney et al. like lepers.

The problem is they have essentially NOTHING to fall back on but even more platitudes like “returning to our conservative roots”.

Which is code for even more Reaganesque neo-conservatism, sprinkled with just a dash of responsibility this time.

They are simply incapable of changing the party to one that is something other than being merely opposed to any and all social and political progress.

No thanks. Regime change is at hand.

By getalife

October 14, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

RW,

Thanks for proving my point on your blindness of your failed party.

You are a “good little german” but they did not have the blogs to spread their insanity.

By getalife

October 14, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

AmVet,

They know and Frank Rich says it here

I am here to help them see it but they chose to ignore it or turn a blind eye like the “good little germans”.

By getalife+rhetorical?

October 14, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

muff.. somethun bout bush.

bush

bush

bushitler

muff said

By getalife

October 14, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

President Carter said this is the first time in his life that we use torture.

He said cheney is a disaster and they will turn a blind eye to these facts just like…. well, you know.

By Chris

October 14, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Alford is my Sunday School teacher at FBC-Conyers and I can tell you now, he is a Democrat no longer given the party’s recent shift toward Stalinism in their efforts to silence talk radio, FOX News, and the Internet.

By Wootenduh

October 14, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

Ralph Peters calls the democrat meddling for what it is:

{{{{It’s a brilliant ploy - the Dems get to stab our troops in the back, but lay the blame off on the Turks. They pretend they’re responding to their Armenian-American constituents - while actually moving to placate MoveOn.org.}}}}

{{{{For the Democrats in Congress, it looks like a cost-free strategy. For our troops? When did the Dems give a damn about our troops? This resolution isn’t a stand in favor of historical justice. It’s an end-run that ducks behind the bench. It’s one of the most cynical betrayals in our legislative history - of our troops, of Armenian-Americans, of the Kurds under threat from the Turkish military and of the people of Iraq.}}}}

Kowards.

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Wootenduh,

You need to rerun that story tomorrow to see if our and the University of North Carolina’s resident “scientist” went to that lecture.

That actually used to be close to what rushncap said about “climate change” until the liberal brownshirts slapped him into toeing the party line.

By AmVet

October 14, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

Good stuff, getalife.

And to think that Bremer was actually awarded for his part in the invasion/occupation incompetence!

No wonder there is so much gnashing of teeth by the “faithful” about Nobel Peace Prizes!

Yes, I agree it is difficult for even the most willfully blind and pig-headed intransigents here not to be inundated with the obvious truths regarding this administration and this President.

Pick a topic. Any topic.

But they can and do pretty much always choose to not read any of it, disregard/ignore it, pretend to not understand it or let their favorite radio talking head convince them to dismiss it all as a big liberal conspiracy to defame the greatest President in our history.

Oops, my bad. Make that second greatest after Ronnie!

And so some of the cretins blubber about Carter wishing the tactics of a highly specialized mission were different but give these deadly deceitful clowns a total pass* on being the greatest dunderheads, and **choosing to create the biggest diplomatic blunder since, perhaps even eclipsing, McNamara and LBJ.

Is it any wonder that practically their entire neo-con philosophy has been discredited and they are daily being exposed to the nation as not much more than stubborn fools?

By Glenn Gilbert

October 14, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

Someone earlier called me a silly self-righteous a*. It actually describes me well enough. It describes Mr. Carter even better. (Wow, I just compared myself to Jimmy Carter!) Kindly knock it off with the “President Carter” honorific. It’s un-democratic and un-American. There’s only one President of the United States, and his name is George W. Bush whether we like it or not. He is President Bush, the Commander in Chief. On the priciple that one should never wear another’s uniform, the former President, Mr. Carter, is just that: Mr. Carter. Likewise Mr. Clinton, and the father of the present incumbent. Should ever I happen across the path of Jimmy Carter, I’ll call the man “Mr. Carter”, and if that’s not good enough for the great Nobelist then he can go to Hell. As the late historian Dumas Malone observed, “‘Mister’ was good enough for Jefferson!” Alas Mr. Carter is no Jefferson, and neither is Bush. One very big difference is that one of them was reelected, and consequently holds the office.

By getalife

October 14, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

Geez, the global warming debate is over.

Beat a dead horse much?

Get over it, you lost, sore losers.

Get ready for President Clinton.

Bwa.

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

Well, there’s simply nothing left to say about Iraq. We’re there. The enemy is evolving, the parliament digging in, maybe there’ll be an agreement, and maybe after 10K years, the arabs will trust each other like they haven’t been able to do every, but that’s about all there is to say, except that the Kurds aren’t arabs, but I dont know how that complicates the picture, not being arab myself, so I dont know any more than you. SO what’s to say, except that my patriotism is felt stronger than yours and BTW, you’re a terrorist for not saluting my blogging skills, etc etc etc

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

TOUCHDOWN GREENBAY!!!

TOUCHDOWN! TOUCHDOWN! TOUCHDOWN!!!

an no flag? what a miracle. The officials are obviously terrorists cause they’ve called back many plays and a greenbay touchdown with bogus holding calls.

By Glenn Gilbert

October 14, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

Rule of Law, I’d appreciate your not assailing my patriotism, which runs strong and deep. Putting that aside, though, I agree exactly with your statement about Iraq. I actually wrote almost the exact same draft, but didn’t have the guts to post it. So thanks. And oh, nice blogging skills.

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

getalife,

GOOD NEWS! Since you say the debate is over, you can pick up an easy $125,000.00

By Wootenduh

October 14, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

Gosh, I wonder if the libs will attack the current commander of U.S. forces in Iraq:

{{{{During the first 12 days of October the death rates of Iraqis and Americans fell still further. So far during the Muslim month of Ramadan, which began Sept. 13 and ends this weekend, 36 U.S. soldiers have been reported as killed in hostile actions. That is remarkable given that the surge has deployed more American troops in more dangerous places and that in the past al-Qaeda has staged major offensives during Ramadan. Last year, at least 97 American troops died in combat during Ramadan. Al-Qaeda tried to step up attacks this year, U.S. commanders say — so far, with stunningly little success.}}}}

{{{{The trend could change quickly and tragically, of course. Casualties have dropped in the past for a few weeks only to spike again. There are, however, plausible reasons for a decrease in violence. Sunni tribes in Anbar province that once fueled the insurgency have switched sides and declared war on al-Qaeda. The radical Shiite leader Moqtada al-Sadr ordered a cease-fire last month by his Mahdi Army. Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno, the top day-to-day commander in Iraq, says al-Qaeda’s sanctuaries have been reduced 60 to 70 percent by the surge.-Washington Post}}}}

Will he be carried around on their shoulders like Sanchez?

Duh.

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

“My patriotism is better than yours” is a satire on how RW, @@, Buy, Andy, and jbmlaw, midmouth, and the entire cadre of right blight comments. That’s all they post all day long everyday. They claim that they’re patriotic and that anyone on the left is a terrorist. Period. That’s all they got, and that’s all they’ve blogged for over a year. I mean, just go back to any archive one month ago, six months ago, or a year ago, and read the same comments over and over. nonsense. I would never suggest that my patriotism is felt more strongly than yours. Only a fool would, thus we are back to the right blight on this site.

By getalife

October 14, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

AmVet,

Well said. I will be here to remind them of their failed party even though they will ignore it.

The only issue they speak out about is immigration and they ignore the rest. Quite amazing when corporate welfare, lies, preemptive, needless war in Iraq, torture, freedoms stolen, etc… are ignored.

I think they will have psychology courses to study the insane minds of the wingnuts. Heavy meds must be used by these people to ignore the obvious.

By Curious Observer

October 14, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

I see the mentally retarded English reject TFTT is back to its usual harangues, this time choosing to tongue-lash General Sanchez for stating the obvious.

Get help, TFTT. Those English schoolboy days of serving as the object of sexual abuse by all the older boys have taken their toll on you.

And let’s return to the topic—the sorry state of education in Georgia. We can talk about it all we want, but in the end we must acknowledge that trying to improve the cause of education in one of the most anti-intellectual states in the union is futile. There’s a reason the South is at the bottom of educational rankings and at the top of incarcerations. That reason is that the South holds learning in total contempt. It is ludicrous to read the feigned concern about low educational achievement in the region; most people on this blog and in this region don’t give a tinker’s damn about the prevailing ignorance among school students, except for its adverse effect on job prospects. And jobs, after all, are the only reason they see for attending school—yet another characteristic of anti-intellectualism.

The fact that so many on this blog view the writings of Ayn Rand as serious intellectual achievements says a great deal about the people here.

So go beat up on a teacher, bloggers, if it will make you feel better. It will do you no good. The South is in an intellectual and cultural hole from which it will never emerge. The schools will continue to turn out know-nothing Dustys and faux intellectuals like jbmlaw. In truth, they will be as hate-filled and anti-intellectual as the detestable TFTT.

By getalife

October 14, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

RW,

Yes, the oil companies are still paying to debate the dead horse.

Geez.

By observant1

October 14, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

I mean, just go back to any archive one month ago, six months ago, or a year ago, and read the same comments over and over. nonsense.

Rule of Law, one could easily say the EXACT same thing about you monotonous rhetorical liberals. ‘Muff said.

I do agree w/you regarding the Packers tho.. go GB!

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Did you miss this?

By Wootenduh October 14, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this And now for the money quote: {{{{He said his beliefs had made him an outsider in popular science. “It bothers me that my fellow scientists are not speaking out against something they know is wrong,” he said. “But they also know that they’d never get any grants if they spoke out. I don’t care about grants.”}}}}

By observant1

October 14, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

This is how liberals debate the farce of man-made global warming:

“It’s over and been settled. I don’t want to hear or read about any counter arguments. I’m an opened minded lib that’s only open to my perception of reality.” Nyaa nyaa nyaa I can’t hear you nyaa nyaa nyaa

For the record, any time a lib attempts to equate Conservatives with Nazis, just ask them how open minded the Nazis were to diversity of opinions, non-state owned corporations, and certainly opinions on Israel’s right to exist. Then ask yourself how many of the aforementioned are supported by the left in this nation. ‘Muff said.

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

The people who populate ancient mesopotamia have ancient tribal ties with tribes across the arbitrarily-drawn borders of modern Iraq, and that’s what complicates any predictions concerning the political compromises now in play. The sheer general pervasive and persistent ignorance about the theo-military reality on the ground in Iraq necessarily forces all american debates into a devolving series of flag waving, patriotic oaths, and accusations of treason. I wont discuss Iraq. I was the lone voice of reason in march of 2003. Then the think tanks came out with their objections which just happened to be word for word copies of my objections to any invasion of Iraq. There are 10K year old outhouses in Iraq, people. How can we ever know the subsets of cross border tribal rivalries and alliances that exist to thwart any political compromise. The borders themselves are arbitrary. Iraq isn’t really a country as it is a nice picture on a map. Look at the straight lines the british cartographer drew!! He slit the tribes, however, so any reunion of those tribes becomes a defacto invasion of one country into another triggering a larger more regional war, but those lines are pretty! Oh, the colors!

The ignorance about Iraq is ubiquitous. Damn, Greenbay is trying to pas on every play. They should have just busted it up the middle. Who is that offensive coordinator. They missed the fieldgoal. unreal. unreal.

By getalife

October 14, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

RW,

I read duh’s drivel like I read wooten’s.

I don’t.

“IRAQ REPORT At a glance The latest news in the Iraq war.

Al-Hakim: Ammar al-Hakim, son and heir apparent of Iraq’s top Shiite politician, said he supports the country’s division into semiautonomous regions based on sect and ethnicity. The United States, which opposes such regions, is a political ally of his father, Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, leader of the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council.

Americans killed: The two coalition soldiers killed in a rocket attack Wednesday against Camp Victory, the headquarters for American forces in Iraq, were Americans, the U.S. military said.

Blackwater: Erik Prince, chief executive of Blackwater USA, whose guards are accused of killing 17 Iraqis in Baghdad last month, says he welcomes the FBI investigation of the shooting and supports the prosecution of any bad acts. “I’m glad they can be a neutral party,” he said in an interview to be broadcast today on CBS’ 60 Minutes.

Turkey: Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice acknowledged “a difficult time” in relations with Turkey, which is threatening a military offensive against Kurdish rebels in northern Iraq. She appealed for restraint from Turkish leaders.

U.S. casualties: As of Saturday, at least 3,825 members of the U.S. military had died since the beginning of the Iraq war, in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count. The figure includes seven Defense Department civilians.”

Man, I had to dig deep to find anything on Iraq.

Geez.

By Brad

October 14, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

Regardng global warming, where are all the hurricanes the past two years? After Katrina the AlGorebots went apenuts and said we’d all die from a massive increase of cat-5 hurricanes - or some BS like that.

So, we can’t even forecast hurricane seasons year to year, yet we are supposed to know that a much larger dynamic of weather, global warming and cooling, is caused by mankind’s actions regardless of what the solar activity and historical records say.

I sure would hate to be a lib overrun with emotions all the time. I mean, really, can you imagine having a life enslaved to what is felt or thought all the time, irregardless of what the reality and truth is?

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

Hitler was the first person to say, ‘muffen versachen. (‘muff said.”

true.

Global warming is a fact. But it’s a fact of planet formation, not man made emissions. man made emissions might cause cancer, but wont affect the planet. the planet is simply too big for a little man/ant to do any harm whatsoever, and everyone knows it.

‘muffen versachen

By Wootenduh

October 14, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

{{{{America’s nerdy, wonky oracle has brought the dangers of climate change to the masses with great effect. Green equals cool. Hollywood adores Gore.-ChicagoSunTimes}}}}

Geez, a freaking editorial board oozing with lust for the man, someone give them a towel to wipe off with.

{{{{Carbon dioxide emissions are boring a hole in the Earth’s atmosphere and are predicted to cause more extreme weather, harm crops, kill off animal species, invite disease and ignite wars.}}}}

Um, “boring a hole?”

I thought CO2 trapped heat?

This is a classic example of pinko elitism combined with junk science, none of these idiots knows of what they speak but yet that doesn’t stop them from babbling on and on in blissful ignorance.

How much harm will they do before it’s over?

Ethanol, Clean and wonderful! Higher food prices, deforestation, burns dirtier then gasoline at less of an energy yield, plus it takes 1.7 gallons of gasoline to produce one gallon of ethanol.

So why do we do stupid things like this to ourselves?

Riding the hysterical feminine feel good bullsh-it of the left, that’s why.

We are doomed to ignorance, a truly stupid nation enslaved to the ridiculous notions of a few wealthy morons.

By observant1

October 14, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

Global warming is a fact. But it’s a fact of planet formation, not man made emissions.

Rule of Law owns the blog just by that statement alone.

DAMN another pickoff by the Skins. WTF are you thinking GB!

By getalife

October 14, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Global warming produces green energy jobs morons.

Plus they can drill for your precious oil in the Artic now with new shipping lanes.

Pull your head out of your as-s and move forward idiots.

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

You are correct, Brad, but not why you think. You’re only incidentally correct, which kind of still makes you, and I hesistate to mention this, because I’m really cherry to use this word, but the fact that you posted the content you did leaves you open to criticism and thank god that it’s coming from me because other’s wouldn’t be so kind, but your blogging reveals you to be a moron, sorry.

Actually, it was Heetler’s wife Teetler who was a lesbian who uttered “Alles Sprechen” for ‘muff said.

Alles Sprechen

By @@

October 14, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

Two-inch Ruler a/k/a PoliFore:

“My patriotism is better than yours” is a satire on how RW, @@, Buy, Andy, and jbmlaw, midmouth, and the entire cadre of right blight comments. That’s all they post all day long everyday.

I challenge you to visit archives and return with evidence that I ever commented on anyone’s patriotism. If you’re not able to do it, then I will expect an apology.

Aaaahhhh hell, just go ahead and give me my apology now. I know how you are…..you can’t stand to be absent for too long.

Getalife:

I think Ahmadenijad and Putin must have had a lover’s quarrel.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has been warned of a plot to assassinate him during his visit to Iran, set to begin Oct. 15, Interfax news agency reported Oct. 14, citing unnamed Kremlin officials and the Russian special services.

Who cheated on whom?

By getalife

October 14, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this

@@,

I doubt Iran wants to kill an ally.

Sounds like bs with the unnamed source.

Gullible much?

Geez.

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Greenbay is going to win this game in spite of themselves.

By getalife

October 14, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

@@,

As dusty, you question patriotism everday.

Admit it.

By @@

October 14, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Gullible much?

Uh…no! It’s not me that believed Jason Leopold at Truthout. “Pssst…Rove’s been indicted.”

Let’s think about this for a minute. If all the major European countries are opposed to Ahmadenijad, and Putin is trying to gain favor with those countries, then why would Putin want to pursue a relationship with a leper.

Ahmadenijad has only served as a useful tool to Putin. Some leverage that he could use in negotiations with the U.S. which took place recently or maybe they’re about to take place. I can’t remember, but I’m off to explore the possibilities.

By Dusty

October 14, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

Well,what’s new? Curious Observer is back with his big old liberal chip on on his shoulder right where his head is supposed to be.(@ 3:33)

And no day is complete without hating Bush. That and hating the South. Old CO thought freedom of speech meant showing prejudice at every chance, prejudice against citizens of the South.

Southerners put up with scurrilous invaders, like CO, who soak up their sunshine, ignore their good manners, try to take their jobs, insult their history, throw trash on their streets, lower school standards with ignorance, talk funny, try to act “smart” and then claim the South is not fit to live in.

But one big problem…THEY WILL NOT LEAVE. You couldn’t run them off with a stick.

If anyone knows the answer to this problem, please notify the Southern Department of Deportation. They will see to it that you get to the place where you unhappy critters BELONG and it aint here in our sunshine, honey!!

By lets all goad peeping tom for fun!!!

October 14, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

SNIGGER SNIGGER SNIGGER

PEEPING TOM the senile psychotic unwanted, almost aborted offspring of a depraved scabies ridden slack jawed horse rapist and the paedophile of the year 1947 and yanKKKee child molesting champ of five years old and under 1949, 1950 and 1951 has gone beserk again!!!

Nice one peeping tom … still LMFAO!!!

peeping tom simply cannot bear to behold that conservatives can effoftlessly factually hammer liberal vermin like its COCKroach sucking/swallowing self. Tell us peeping tom - where exactly did Sanchez puke up anything like this kind of highly public visceral criticism when he was commander in Iraq??? Presumably he was just as critical then as now??? Or is hindsight - and the fact he was essentially fired after evincing even worse than Dingy H Reid levels of leadership sufficient motivation to try and cause maximium treasonous damage to this noble, vital cause??

peeping tom is oh so preDICKtably typical of ALL cut and run perfidious far left pondscum when it comes to reasoned factual argument!! It just pukes up the usual disgustingly hypocritical leftist robotic queeralicious abuse -as if it’s still a prebubescent altar boy play thing of some vile papist pervert in a perfumed yanKKKee vestry!!

peeping tom should stick to peeping in homoqueer bathhouses and not throw stones … witty mixed ‘metaphor’ deliberately intended bubbaturd bollockchops!!

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

The people who blog that they think global warming is not man made dont know why they feel that way. They simply are hacking rushannity.

The science escapes them as science escapes anyone who cant concentrate because their mothers dropped them on their heads in the nursery by “accident”.

alles sprechen

By getalife

October 14, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

@@,

Oil.

duh.

Geez.

By decaturparent

October 14, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

I know this blog gets all types, and I am a bit intimidated by it… but I have a question. How does this “buy waivers with performance” deal differ from Casey Cagle’s charter system plan? Our school district is looking at becoming a charter system, but it looks like maybe we could get out from under some of the red tape that stifles us without having to go all the way to being a charter if this is what it smells like it is.

Mr. Wooten, could you respond? Well… or anyone else who knows something about this proposal… thanks!

By @@

October 14, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

As dusty, you question patriotism everday.

Bring me evidence. You and PoliFore can hold hands while skipping through archives.

I question motive. That’s entirely different.

By Dusty

October 14, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

getalife 4:18

Right!! I wonder about your patriotism every day and I’m not @@.

There isn’t one thing about America that you like soooooooo……what do you call it???

By Rule of Law

October 14, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

new England all over dallas. If dallas manages a win here, i will eat my hat.

By Glenn Gilbert

October 14, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

Wootentuh, thanks for the good news from Iraq that you posted earlier. Bet that won’t make it onto the wires — or, if it does, won’t get picked up. It’ll be interesting to read Sanchez’ remarks in their entirety.

By @@

October 14, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

decaturparent:

That’s exactly the way I read the proposal. The overall state objective would be a 90% graduation rate.

If, for whatever reason, a district is unable to meet that goal, then they can seek other alternatives. Whether through an innovative approach to curriculum or an alternative school.

I’m a person who thinks that a curriculum has to be tailor-made to suit the abilities of the student body in majority. If a parent feels that their child can achieve more through a different program, then they should be given the option to reposition their child in another school.

By @@

October 14, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

decaturparent:

That’s exactly the way I read the proposal. The overall state objective would be a 90% graduation rate.

If, for whatever reason, a district is unable to meet that goal, then they can seek other alternatives. Whether through an innovative approach to curriculum or an alternative school.

I’m a person who thinks that a curriculum has to be tailor-made to suit the abilities of the student body in majority. If a parent feels that their child can achieve more through a different program, then they should be given the option to reposition their child in another school.

By Poofs for Bush

October 14, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

Andi/e-duh enters the preisthood…

By AmVet

October 14, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

Oh great, the bloggers who apparently slept through all of their junior high school science classes before dropping out in high school are now climatology experts.

Yes there is irrefutable scientific consensus on this matter and though that counts for a great deal, it is not conclusive. Not yet. But the evidence keeps mounting and the number of nay sayers keeps dwindling.

So some here are reduced to asking rhetorical, senseless questions about this years hurricanes, while others drag out isolated facts from their “Climate Change for Dummies” paperback.

And then there are the religious nuts who think the Bible or Koran or whatever is absolutely literally correct (or close enough) but validated, reasoned, logical science is to be distrusted. Particularly if it is, in any way, at odds with their dogma.

And some of the geniuses here post “analyses” that would be worthy of inclusion in a stand up comedy routine if not so sad in that they actually believe themselves.

These “scientists” and apologists have NO credibility. NONE. What is so hard to understand about that?

I would venture that not one of these “climatology experts” blogging here have even the barest inkling of pertinent knowledge based on direct experience, field and laboratory tests and measurements, series of experiments, etc.

So they are completely incapable of understanding even the most rudimentary problems, yet they moronically feel they are qualified to address, WITH CERTAINTY, this incredibly complex, gigantic issue that even some of the real experts disagree on?

And why? Because they’ve cut and pasted some cherry picked information from some irrelevant website.

And IMHO, their motives are usually very suspect. Much of the blathering is simply to support their hyper-restrictive world view and political ideology and, of course, to ALWAYS deny anything not deemed “conservative” in origin or nature.

And lets face it we all know that science and especially academia is the bastion of those evil subversive liberals with an agenda to destroy the economy of the United States.

If only these wing nuts would stop the mental masturbation and inane attempts to convince themselves they have more than the tiniest hint of which they are so self-righteously certain.

Educated, intelligent people simply laugh at the words coming from these idiots. And as usual they damage their cause much more heavily than they help it.

What next? An enlightened neo-con dissertation on how “holes in the fossil record” disprove natural selection?

Or perhaps a panel discussion from the very far right on the validity, or not, of Euclidian wormholes.

By jbmlaw

October 14, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

Dear Dusty @ 1:23, apologies for slow response. You ask, “Do you think Alford was trying to say something in a nice way that he wouldn’t say with specifics?” I don’t know Mr. Alford, but when I read the line, the only meaning I perceived was perfectly innocuous: that the school system is designed for the nonextant “average” student. I read nothing racial or ethnic in the words; I think perhaps he attempts to communicate a perception that there was an unconscious disregard of “special needs” kids.

By getalife

October 14, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

crusty,

I loved everything about America before w and will love everything about America after the Clintons clean up his disasters to get back to where we were before w.

In other words, I am not a “good little german” like you.

Loser.

By @@

October 14, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

Whoops! I didn’t hit post twice. What happened. My last paragraph was dropped too.

It’s time to take a different approach to teaching. Repeating the basics through twelve years of school has these kids bored senseless. Stir their passion for learning by letting them choose their focus. Sneak in the basics at the point of their interest.

By Glenn Gilbert

October 14, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this

decaturparent, please don’t be intimidated. I’m new here too, and some of these people have got a grip on this proposal. Before you buy into it completely, though, please see Dusty’s and also Rule of Law’s questions at 1:23PM. They’re onto something. jbmlaw too. Also please take the time to look up my remarks at 9:22PM October 9, in response to Wooten’s column of last week on this same reform proposal. For now, I would just say that the prospective changes you have mentioned will not change the means of delivery or make significant, actual improvements in student outcomes. That’s not even the driver of the proposal; the driver is efficiency, not effectiveness. More later if you’d like.

By Wootenduh

October 14, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

You think I’m kidding about the absolute lack of intelligent thought in the United States nowadays, check this out for further proof:

{{{{By AmVet October 14, 2007 5:22 PM Yes there is irrefutable scientific consensus on this matter and though that counts for a great deal, it is not conclusive.}}}}

“Irrefutable” consensus on the “inconclusive.”

Hahaha, geez.

I did leave out one other factor for this madness in my scathing commentary of 4:00 and that is greed.

These leftist con artists are angling for government grants and “research” money so that they can tell you what a thermometer says.

Correct me if I’m wrong but is the pinko nation not hell bent on draining the Treasury for every silly notion whether made up or imagined.

“Generous” and “caring” beyond all belief, as long as they are giving away somebody else’s money.

The same people hiding behind the skirt of a 12 year old, sending him off to do their battles, arming him with a laundry list of lies, without the slightest care that his parents are upper middle class and damn near eligible for the AMT.

Anti American POS.

By aubrey

October 14, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

Public education is only as good as the parents. The problem in a nutshell is until the parents are better then the students will continue to do the same. Show me schools where you have a better class of parents and I’ll show you students that are succeeding.

By Glenn Gilbert

October 14, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

decaturparent again, see @@’s comments just now? Now that, in my opinion is a much better place to begin a reform effort than with 23 of the Governor’s friends and their staffs trying to make sure that enough money goes out fairly enough. Do not tell me of the size and shape and the color and cost of the bottle; instead tell me of its contents, and I will show you how to contain them, or how not to contain them. Maybe a barrel would do better. Maybe we won’t need a glassblower or a cooper at all.

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

Actually the fact that there is NOTHING in the fossil record to prove that ANY species EVER became a different one is a pretty good start at debunking the myth of Darwinism.

The reality is that the more paleontologists study the less convinced they are of natural selection.

Of course you still have your evolutionary biologists sucking up grant money, so they won’t be honest yet. They’ll continue to trot out more and more hoax’s like Piltdown Man until the cash dries up.

They may try a little sleight of hand by throwing around Punctuated Equilibrium, but that won’t play for long even with the dumb masses.

Much of the same will happen as the studies of scientists not paid off by the radical left show that climate change is cyclical and has been for millions of years.

By observant1

October 14, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

This is for the expert AmVet, who, like a typical lib, is an expert on everything, ESPECIALLY if his/her hero Dr. GoreQuack approves of it:

On Friday, deliciously coincident with the Global Warmingist-in-Chief receiving likely the first of many Nobel Peace Prizes, Dr. Gray spoke to a group of meteorologists and students at the University of North Carolina telling the audience that the theory of manmade climate change is “ridiculous” and the product of “people who don’t understand how the atmosphere works.”

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, AmVet. You too, getalife. Keep your pinko neostalinist punkas-ses out of MY life.

By observant1

October 14, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

CNN founder Ted Turner blamed Fox News for pushing America into the Iraq war

HAHAHAHA!!! Did anyone ask this liberal limpdik neocommie why 80% of Democrats in congress voted for the authority to go to war in Iraq while 100% of Democrat presidential candidates currently REFUSE to have a debate hosted BY FoxNews? Yeah, I TOTALLY see a correlation there. What an a*******hole.

By Glenn Gilbert

October 14, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

aubrey, re your offer to show us students who are succeeding: succeeding at what, and according to whose measure or estimation?

By observant1

October 14, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

The U.S. budget deficit fell to the lowest level in five years last week, but three of America’s leading newspapers — the New York Times, Washington Post and Los Angeles Times — couldn’t find the space to mention the dramatic drop.

Freaking shock of the Century that is. Not the deficit falling to increased revenues due to low taxes (DUH), but that no leftist rag picked up the story. Right now if Gore/Kerry were in office under the current economic conditions SANS tax cuts, we’d be wiping off the walls the drool of excitement of TV “news” reports that came through our TVs.

By observant1

October 14, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

Margaret Carlson: ‘Prophet’ Al Gore ‘Rose Above a Great Injustice’.

When Novak asserted Gore merely “became a demagogue on the global warming issue,” Carlson, the former Deputy Washington Bureau Chief for Time magazine who now posts columns on the Bloomberg News Web site, championed Gore’s cause as she hailed how “he became a prophet on an issue that is crucially important to the world.”

Well, the libs have FINALLY found their religion. Too bad it’s laced with Jim Jones and Kool Aid.

Kooks!

By getalife

October 14, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

Get this, faux noise wants Betrayus to win the Nobel Peace prize.

Idiots.

Looks like Blackwater is on their way out of Iraq and will be held accountable for their massacre.

By getalife

October 14, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this

Turn off the rush duh

Idiot.

By observant1

October 14, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

Turn off the rush duh Idiot

Codeword for the pinkanuses on the SiCkO left that can’t comprehend that there ARE people out there that share different ideas than them, whether Rush says them or not.

Pathetic pos liberals.

Betcha that rear entry queen getalife can’t come up with one comment here today that Rush said even close to resembling word for word. Yes, that’s a challenge.

By Wootenduh

October 14, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

{{{{WASHINGTON — A letter sent to Rush Limbaugh’s boss demanding he be chastised for comments he made on the air about “phony soldiers” is now on the auction block, and the latest bid is a cool $41,400.}}}}

{{{{One hundred percent of the money raised from the eBay auction will go to educate the children of Marines and law enforcement officers who died while on duty, the auction says.}}}}

{{{{“This historic document may well represent the first time in the history of America that this large a group of U.S. senators attempted to demonize a private citizen by lying about his views. As such, it is a priceless memento of the folly of (Senate Majority Leader) Harry Reid and his 40 senatorial co-signers,” reads the eBay announcement.}}}}

Bid for a good cause.

By observant1

October 14, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this

…and the latest bid is a cool $41,400.

Excellent! Homeboy needs to go after Media Splatters and sue them for everything they’ve got. Someone’s got to corral the disgusting far left there and get their little pinko skirtasses under control man. When Ms. Reid got on the floor and mealy mouthed what MM took out of context, that was the last straw.

By observant1

October 14, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

The eBay link for anyone who is interested.

Oh how PRICELESS is that!

Karma and payback are a real bi-tch.

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

Wootenduh and observant1,

We would be amiss if we didn’t point out that Rush has challenged all the signers of that letter to each match the winning bid and contribute a like amount to The Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation.

Kind of a put up or shut up to the “uber-patriots” that want to stifle free speech with gestapolike tactics.

By observant1

October 14, 2007 6:45 PM | Link to this

Excellent point, RW.

I won’t hold my breath for those disgusting lipstick pigs on the left.

By AmVet

October 14, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

Leave it to the resident “climatology expert” to deny that the consensus on man-influenced global warming is irrefutable.

So is Mr. Denier the Scientist refuting that there is no scientific consensus on this matter?

Is he denying that virtually all of the most credible organizations in the world endorse the theory?

Is he proposing that there are more respected scientific organizations opposed to this theory than are supportive?

Is he suggesting coconuts migrate?

Like I said, a favorite ploy of the demented far right, and particularly this one, is to pretend not to understand standard written English.

But then again, perhaps this lack of basic reading comprehension is not faked.

Spin like a top, Andy but you probably better off sticking to what you know best - juvenile insults and red herrings.

And next the resident neo-con “paleontology expert” can’t keep his feet out of his mouth and pretends he has some strange angle on disproving Darwin.

Look for his thesis paper coming out soon on how Galileo was a liberal who faked his research on how the planets orbit the sun and not the earth!

These rage consumed, impotent neo-cons are good for laughs if nothing else!

By observant1

October 14, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this

Note how AmVet, like the rest of his/her pathetic disgusting blind left wing ilk, TOTALLY IGNORES any COUNTER points to the LIE of man-made global warming. But, should we expect any less from a person who’s a representative of the hysterical emotional left who buy into ANYTHING so long as their God, iGorebot, believe in it. Thirty years ago the threat was GLOBAL COOLING! Thirty years ago when we were spewing WAY more nasty crap into the atmosphere than we are today. TWO YEARS and no major hurricanes have hit the US when forecasts said otherwise.

Note, also, how AmVet can write over a dozen hysterical sentences that don’t amount to a hill of beans.

Keep your filthy claws out of my life, freakshow.

By Craig

October 15, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

Comments on this blog are fascinating sometimes. There are a few relatively normal righties here - while jbmlaw and dusty and Wooten are generally wrong, at least they can comment with a good sense of humor. While I generally disagree with them, I imagine they are happy and well adjusted people.

Then there are people like observant, and ttft, and wootenduh, who seem to be perpetually in a rage. Get a life, gentlemen, take a walk, go out to a nice dinner with your wife, whatever. Life is too short to be so infuriated all the time that your chosen response is to shout insults at people who disagree with you.

By whatisit

October 15, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Define the term and concept, “education”. What is it?

BTW, I agree with By Craig, October 15. The constitutional right to “education” provides the forum for all to express opinions. Therefore, can anyone—including Wooten—define “education”??