Thinking Right

By Anonymous

October 10, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

Now I’m all confused. Just yesterday, Wooten was suggesting that we need to find better ways to tax actual wealth, rather than just relying on property taxes alone.

Now he’s against it—why? Just because it came from Hillary?

By jbmlaw

October 10, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I don’t know why there is any controversy over the benefits of rearranging the “inequality that is eating away at our social contract.” The historical track record is clear. In 1930, pre-Peron Argentina was one of the ten wealthiest countries in the world. In less than a generation, the socialist wrecking ball had dropped it to the bottom 50. Russia, from 1917 to 1990, and China, from 1948 until 1995, were little changed from the serf-based economies of a prior millennium. The Fabian socialists who inherited India from the Brits in 1948 were unable to produce a country that could feed itself, until the country began to throw off the yoke of socialism, a process that is now accelerating. Those who do not know the past are condemned to repeat it.

Today is the 50th anniversary of the publishing of “Atlas Shrugged,” available at a bookstore near you (or at a public library for the hard-core leftists.)

By Politics Athwart

October 10, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

There are two ways to judge a man. One is how he would sentence and warehouse prisoners.

The other is how he would bury his dead. Wooten thinks a dead man in his grave is far far more sacred than a living man tending the flowers on that grave.

By jbmlaw

October 10, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

I forgot to mention Africa - any capitalist countries among those basket cases? (Question for the day - why does the economy South Africa spiral down today?)

By Truthifier

October 10, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

Anonymous @ 9:11am

You hit the nail on the head. Wooten has no actual opinions on any topic of serious importance. Name the topic and you can go back through his “articles” and find a contradictory statement. If George Bush says invade Iraq it’s good. If Hillary Clinton supports Bush in invading Iraq then she is only doing so to further her political career. If George Bush wants to expand the Medicare prescription benefit it is good for older Americans. If Hillary Clinton takes a position on pharmaceutical or healthcare issues she is “Queen of the Welfare State”. Wooten is nothing more than a hack for the Republican party, and is an embarrassment to the AJC — and that’s saying a lot given the low-level of reporting going on at this paper where the “front page” of the online version is normally devoted to giving decorating tips.

By Mid-South Philosopher

October 10, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim,

I have an idea for Hillary.

Instead of folks who have worked hard and acquired a bit of wealth by initiative or people who have died, why don’t we tax the proceeds of private companies that are accessories in schemes by public companies to defraud the citizens. For example, Motorola and Scientific American in the Charter Communications fraud case (aka: Stoneridge Investment Partners, LLC v. Scientific-Atlanta, Inc., et al) now pending before the Supreme Court.

Nope, she would never go for that. Truth is she is a closet corporatist. At least, Georgie Bush is out in the open with his capitalistic communism.

By DemDems4Ever

October 10, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

There are two ways to judge a man.

Pure nonsense that must come from a socialist who has spent time in jail.

A good question would be - “Why should a decedent’s family pay for a program designed by a politician simply to BUY votes?”

When you socialists realize the wealthy politicians making such proposals have already protected their estates from taxation you may see them in a different light.

You socialists are being played for suckers by the likes of Kennedy and Clinton. Wake up and realize the immoral taxation proposals by the left will eventually destroy our nation.

By Redneck Convert

October 10, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

Well, I was hoping little Sonny Zell George would be grandfathered in and get $5,000. But I guess I have to settle for a 401k and a free 1,000 bucks now that the Hillary woman has changed her mind. Maybe my dotter will have another one or four babys. It looks like a lot of young fellers have been hanging around lately. Anyway, the people that will pay for it are dead so it won’t hurt them none. And the people that will get the money from the wills of people that are dead won’t miss what the guvmint takes oncet the old folks kick the bucket.

My buddy Jim Earl says its a commie scheme but I’m not so sure. You might as well take any money the guvmint gives you. I figure the fat cats like jbmlaw and Van or TFTT probly will leave enough to pay for several hundred 401ks. Anyway, best I can tell, no one will miss them when they go. They been grasping and squeezing people for every buck they can get and still yelling for more tax cuts, they might as well do some good for other people. Besides dying, that is. I sometimes think poor TFTT would be better off dead, what with his head problem and all.

I watched the Republican debate, and all I got to say is if that’s the best they can do it’s for sure we’re in for a Democrat president. I got real mad when I heard one of them say jobs go overseas but them’s the breaks. Here I am rassling with this beer truck and worryed about some illegal or one of Those People taking my job and they just act like everything’s hunky-dory.

Anyway, I still ain’t looking forward to being led by a woman president. This Hillary person ought to be home baking cookies for her man and making sure he don’t fool around with no more interns. Instead of stomping around like she’s some guy. Leastwise, it might be worth it all if she gets elected and old Wooten goes into a fit about it. That would be worth seeing, the way Wooten has a hissy-fit every time this Hillary woman’s name comes up. His hair would probly turn even whiter. Or maybe he would loose it all.

I was real sad to see how Sister Dusty claimed this Captain guy and me was just alike yesterday. I think she’s been hitting the bottle pretty hard again. If she keeps drinking like that, it won’t be long till she’s funding some of this Hillary woman’s 401ks. She’s just eat up with anger.

By LMAO

October 10, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

Using a public library is for “hard core leftists”?! LMAO Take the blinders off jbmlaw. Everything in life is not about you versus the “lefties.”

By TW

October 10, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

Jim - funny how you seldom discuss our present day President. Doesn’t he have over a year left, and aren’t we paying him $400k/yr? Seem like this ‘entitlement’ might get your attention…

By Southern Democrat

October 10, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

I’ve never had a problem with estate and/or death taxes. If your rich relative was not fond enough of you to take advantage of the generous yearly gift exception in his/her lifetime or create an inter vivos trust, that’s a family issue. The government is merely stepping in and at least going through the motions of trying to prevent the landed gentry/aristocracy our founding fathers loathed.

Jbmlaw, I have always thought that those who benefit from estate tax repeal (the chicks with their mouths open waiting for regurgitate wealth upon the death of the mother hen) run exactly counter to the philosophy of John Galt and am surprised you condemn their punishment.

By Captain Freedom

October 10, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

While THE Captain appreciates a hearty Hillary bashing as much as the next guy, He is disappointed that Mr Wooten has passed the opportunity to “take down” a far more salient threat to the health of Our Nation.

I speak of course of Graeme Frost, that rhetorical suicide bomber the sick leftists have employed to attack Our Leader’s Righteous Crusade to Protect Health Insurance Campaign Donors. One would think that Mr Wooten would leap with alacrity at the chance to stand shoulder to shoulder with Michelle Malkin as she strives to reveal the Islamowelfarescammers that threaten to put a human face on the whole SCHIP debate. Indeed, as of yesterday, Mr Wooten has the chance to stand cyst-to-cyst with the Glorious “oxy gives me such a” Rush Limbaugh in equating this phony child with the phony soldiers who go to Iraq to get gravely wounded so that they can attack that Godly Mountain of a Man. Because what can be more invigorating to White American Christian Males (and their self-hating Philipino handmaidens) than to kick a 12-year old kid around? (Though THE Captain does wonder why we don’t go after the sister; apparently, she has a permanent brain injury, and probably talks funny and would probably be really easy to mock. Teasing retards is such Good Conservative Fun. It’s why we keep TFTT around this forum.)

But, hey, Hillary bashing is okay, too. Some things never go out of style. Unlike Mr Wooten’s suits.

By Politics Athwart

October 10, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

Here’s my own prison reform: (Judge me on it).

I’d teach table manners and hold daily formal banquets (ties and tails). I’d have each prisoner’s uniform be prison-tailored business suits, and have regular business style meetings all day long for the prisoners. I’d serve the best prison made food and have a chef program. Teach these men to become superstars. They’ll get out and make it to the top.

Prisoners should be trained to be CEOs. Personal hygiene classes mandatory. Personal comportment classes. Handshake instructions. Business law. Accounting. Marketing. Finance. It only takes a year to transform someone. That’s hardly a life sentence, but it is a life sentence for success.

We can praise dogs and train them to do astounding things. Imagine what praising a human being would do. It’s time we congratulate ourselves on being human. Not bad, not bad at all.

My fair lady. It’s a philosophy about mankind. Did god make any junk? Can you train anyone for success? Is racism justified? R we fooling ourselves about the potential of a human mind?

By HeeHaw

October 10, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

Today is the 50th anniversary of the publishing of “Atlas Shrugged,” available at a bookstore near you (or at a public library for the hard-core leftists.)

I’ve always wanted to read that book, let me check the public library on-line catalog, see where it is available. I might be able to swing by one and check it out at lunch.

$7 million estate? Let’s drop the quotes from that “the rich” comment and call it the rich instead.

By Politics Athwart

October 10, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

The fact that we pay our elected representatives next to nothing should instruct us all about the entreprenurial aspect of the inherent shield that a by4of people’s republic lends to capitalism.

By No Laughing Matter

October 10, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

It’s not like the estate tax takes the entire estate. It is not a tax on the dead people, but on the windfall amount that comes to people with rich family members. Why is that a problem? You win the lottery, you pay income tax. Same idea. It’s a windfall, not something the beneficiary earned on his or her own merit. Jim, your inconsistency is mindboggling. If you are going to undercut one day’s opinion, at least wait a few days before doing it. You won’t look so two faced.

By Captain Freedom

October 10, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

THE Captain wishes to proffer a hearty “Happy Birthday, John Galt!”

THE Captain remembers well his first read of this Universe-changing literary epic. The impact this glorious book had on the teenaged Captain was monumental…He knew He had finally found the articulated truth that He knew about himself. Who is John Galt? Rather, who is THE Captain? Yes, I say, yes yes.

For it is the Right of Exceptional Persons like John Galt and THE Captain to live free and unfettered from the intrusions of societal norms and compacts.

Yes, by all means, everyone should rush out and read this epic tome. It has every bit as much depth and breadth as the most morose Sylvia Plath poetry, and appeals to a like level of emotional and intellectual maturity. It is essential to understanding the Common Sense Conservatism THE Captain has sworn to protect.

And don’t forget to attack a 12-year old Democrat today. We can’t all get our hands on Graeme Frost, so kick any pre-pube liberal you see today to show your symbolic support of Rush and Our Lady of the Concentration Camp as they bravely fight the enemy wherever they find them.

By jbmlaw

October 10, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Good morning Southern. Actually my objection is the government theft that does not allow the one who earned the wealth to direct its disposition. Have no care, either way, about the open-mouthed chicks (who would include Francisco d’Anconia?)

By Dusty

October 10, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

Well, Redneck Convict, you are getting as loosely long winded as our falsified Captain. And somewhat repetitious but what’s a body to do when they don’t have much to say.

You better not vote for Hillary. She’d love to give your beer truck to the guy down the street who NEEDS it more than you. And Gore got his big money from his Dad so he won’t like this “let US give away YOUR Dad’s money” deal. What’sa matter? Can’t you libs get your “lines” together? Been missing your AA meetings?

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By Politics Athwart

October 10, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

No laughing matter, Wooten is not inconsistent, you simply mistook both of his points. The premise of yesterday’s blog was underfunded and ineffective students. Today it’s buying polls.

By Curious Observer

October 10, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

Of course, we all know that this country would be much better off in spending its money—at the rate of $12 billion per month—in Iraq, rather than in initially funding a small retirement account for newborns.

The neocons are really a study in contradiction. They gripe about Social Security and Medicare and the nanny state, and they insist on changing it all to 401ks and relieving employers of the horrific burden of paying matching Social Security taxes. At the same time, they are up in arms the minute a candidate from the wrong party proposes precisely a 401k with a nominal initial funding level.

“Let them eat cake,” said the soon-to-be-headless Marie Antoinette when she was told that the peasants had no bread. Unfortunately, we won’t be beheading any neocons after the 2008 election, but we can be relieving them of a modicum of the heavy riches that burden them and lead them to whine about the need for more tax cuts to benefit themselves.

I see nothing wrong with using government funds to provide a head start to newborns on their eventual retirement. You can’t even equip a single combat soldier with the amount that Hillary Clinton proposes as a savings start. Yet, Wooten and his band of merciless reactionaries whine as though their pockets are being picked.

And I have no sympathy for those who want to see the repeal of the estate tax. That tax was enacted to prevent the perpetuation of wealth through generations of a family, just as estate law frowns on perpetuities. I see no rationale for conferring great, undeserved wealth on a baby merely because his/her great-great-great grandfather was wealthy. Leave the estate tax alone; it already exempts a prince’s ransom from taxation. The neocons love to point to the “family farm” as a possession that should be passed to heirs free of taxation. What they forget to mention is that the family farm is worth $10 million.

By getalife

October 10, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

She did it to pi-ss off the wingnuts who hate welfare.

The Sandy Berger smear is pure bs and surprised Jim did not write about it.

Clintons 08!

By Captain Freedom

October 10, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

Dusty! So glad to see you have shaken off the hangover and logged in. Surely you will join THE Captain in smiting the 12-year old suicide bomber who has offended Limbaugh and Malkin so grievously. THE Captain knows of no one with a more appropriate disposition for this task than Sister Dusty. Well, except for the lovely and demure Ann Coulter, and her faithful rabid shihtzu.

By Politics Athwart

October 10, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw, south gave a description of Galt. He’s wide open. Get him. you cant let that pass, unless you’re a moron who doesn’t know why south is completely wrong to use Galt here.

You probably think light relfects off your ding dong, dont you? It dont, dingaling. It shines at you from the foreskin, kinda like me.

You do make a “bright” spot, though………ew.

By VoR

October 10, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

Liberals never lack of ways to justify getting their hands on other people’s money. Here are a few examples from this morning’s blog:

“The government is merely stepping in and at least going through the motions of trying to prevent the landed gentry/aristocracy our founding fathers loathed.” [The government is just doing what any decent American would want to do—trying to protect us from all becoming victims of the landed gentry. Bless their heart.]

“Wooten thinks a dead man in his grave is far far more sacred than a living man tending the flowers on that grave.” [Since when is it disrespectful of the living to be in favor of not double-taxing someone who’s dead? Libs and logic don’t go together.]

“…why don’t we tax the proceeds of private companies that are accessories in schemes by public companies…” [That’ll show ‘em. And YOU can decide who should be taxed. Forget that due process stuff you’ve heard so much about.]

“…aren’t we paying him $400k/yr? Seem like this ‘entitlement’…”. [Wages = entitlement as long as you are talking about a (twice-elected) Republican President. Smart. Real Smart.]

“I’ve never had a problem with estate and/or death taxes. If your rich relative was not fond enough of you to take advantage of the generous yearly gift exception in his/her lifetime or create an inter vivos trust, that’s a family issue.” [So if you own a small business worth $7 million that you’re passing along to several heirs, you should sell the business in advance so that you can “gift” it to those heirs? With thinking like that, you must be a prospective liberal heir. The people working for that small company will be glad you ended their jobs. Now they can get on a Democrat government program so they can be “good” citizens.]

Proving again that liberals are greedy bass fisherman and economy killers.

By Dusty

October 10, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Oh no, while I was addressing our dear RedNeck Convict, the Captain has run loose like a stampede of centipedes. He has ravaged us with enough intellectualisms to kill a snake.

Indeed, the magnanious “s$chip”bill that would rescue the starving and dying children of $80,000 households has been brought to our tender souls by the Captain. Such magnanimous intentions!! But, I am sure the bulwarks of Republicanism can stand the windmill attacks of our revered Captain of the Boy Scouts.

And worry not, el Capitan. When your mother breathes her last, Republicans will see that YOU get every cent from the sale of your mama’s hot dog stand. As she said, “Every dog gets its day! Mine get chili and onions!” So touching!!! Just like the Captain!

By Southern Democrat

October 10, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

Correct me if I am arguing form over substance, but isn’t the government only stepping in (in this context) when all other options have literally been exhausted. I have boundless sympathy for the downtrodden and ignorant, but very little for the wealthy octagenarian’s offspring who are horrified at the government’s take.

Perhaps we can discuss this in Colorado whilst watching the world grind to a halt.

I am a much bigger fan of The Fountainhead, by the way. It was always on my supplementary reading list for my students (each had to read one novel beyond the assigned four per semester) and write a paper. It still amazes me how many students will write years and years later and say, “I went back and read The Fountainhead again. I get it now!”

By Mrs. RepubLady

October 10, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

Some people matter. Some people don’t. Mr. Wooten gets that. Thank you Mr. Wooten.

By jbmlaw

October 10, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

Dear Southern, I would never correct you, but I would disagree. For me the message of Atlas was that government had no legitimate role in the economy, symbolized by the government employee at Reardon Steel. Similarly, I cannot envision any way that government theft of private wealth would enhance the formation of private wealth.

By Politics Athwart

October 10, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Dusty Rocks! Did you get her “your momma” slam dunk? She doesn’t blog, she waxes poetically. She’s the bright spot on this blog.

We love you Dusty, oh yes we do!

By peaches

October 10, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

The only thing wrong with Hil’s baby bond was that it was way too little. Do you know how expensive children are these days? If five thousand was good, why isn’t ten thousand better? Or twenty? What’s the big deal?

By Anonymous

October 10, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

And if the formation of private wealth were a legitimate priority for government, I’d agree that they’re not doing too well at it.

Fortunately, that’s NOT the purpose of government.

By Southern Democrat

October 10, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

VoR,

You seem to lack knowledge of corporate law. The owner of a small business worth $7M who wished to have it run by his heirs would simply gift them stock in the corporation during his lifetime. A corporation exists in perpetuity and does not “die.”

If the owner of the small business worth $7M is stupid enough to have all of the corporate assets commingled with his own, then the government will take its share.

By your previous remark, I take it you are not a fan of history, either.

Jbmlaw,

I agree, of course, with your take-away from the novel, just disagree with the actual substance.

I thought of you recently when I was arguing with an old law school buddy who is my token Libertarian friend (but tends to vote Democrat of late due to the privacy issues) when I asked him, “If you abhor government so much, why do we spend so much time talking about it???” He laughed and countered, “I hope to discuss it to death.”

By Politics Athwart

October 10, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

Grading the bright spot: c

Your Galt would get pounced on in law school. Atlas Shrugged was about the propensity of man to carry the world on his shoulders, like he’s the only one with the burden, and the suspicion of others which that claim arouses. The part where they distribute the smallpox infected indian blankets was the greatest moment in the history of english novel writing.

The wife stealing, horse raping chapter is a close second.

By time for the brutal but fair truth

October 10, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

The hermaphroditic maggot inbred redneKKK and the ageing Charlie Manson clone Lance Korporal Syphilis are clearly the same far left witless IMBECILIC mental case obsessed with their conservative intellectual and genetic betters on this blog. This sad wittle putrid inadequate puke is almost certainly from the same AIDS ridden homosexual COCKroach sperm bank as the endlessly screeching imperiously doltish peeping tom who is the most rabid dishonest bigot on here - other than crackpipe debbieturd!!

Freaking hilarious to see the smug pandering Canadians are now being increasingly inundated by the creeping grasping cancer of illegal mexican leeches on the leech. Watch these venal vermin slither their way to the northern border in their desperate attempt to find a place where their vile greasy snouts can be filled at ANY taxpayer trough!! Mexicans are UNDENIABLY the worst kind of repulsive modern day gimme gimme plague that is systematically destroying tolerance for genuine refugees who are actually being persecuted. The Canadians need to treat these leeching scum exactly as mexican law provides for the treatment of ALL illegals. Swift deportation and harsh treatment. If ever a country needed putting in its place its the insanely selfish, brutishly mercenary, fittingly backward, corrupt to the core crime ridden slimepit called mexico!!

By Hag Hater

October 10, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

As much as I hate and dispise the neocons, and I do, Hillary the Hag is worse. The final nail in the coffin of America will be the little hags Hillary appoints to run AmeriKa, female lawyers, social workers, and other dubious professions. Your oil stocks will be expropriated by the Hag within the first year of her 30 year dictatorship, followed by anything and everything else of value in your life. Vote Obama, or Vote Buchannon at best, vote republican if you must, but never, ever vote for the HAG.

By Jack

October 10, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

We should annex Mexico into the US, by force if necessary. This would solve the problem of illegal immigration. The Mexican people would be better off because we could use the additional oil revenue to fund all the welfare & benefits that they use now and will continue to use. We might get a break on corona and tequila too.

By TW

October 10, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

If ‘Hillary the Hag’ beats the best the Republicans have to offer, doesn’t that make the GOP a bit of a joke?

Maybe the lesson to be learned here is don’t wet the pants when it’s your turn to wear them…

By time for the brutal but fair truth

October 10, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

@ hag hater

Sir,

I respectfully protest your despicably restrained, pu$$yfooting, mealy mouthed, gossamer light punches pulled commentary on the most debased rancid evil and malevolent hatchet faced corrupt pathologically LYING blubbery lard arsed butch lesbo d ikebiiitch feminazi suborning shrew that ever unworthily scrambled out of a yanKKKee abortion bucket.

By Captain Freedom

October 10, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

Sister Dusty proves her mettle with her unprovoked attack on THE Captain’s recently deceased mother. Given this, Dusty is surely capable of taking on the plague of 12-year old SCHIP recipients who threaten Our Way of Life.

That Dusty..she may have a face like a clenched fist, but her feistiness makes her kind of hot to a blind man with a compromised sense of smell.

By Dusty

October 10, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Thank you , dear Athwart the smart @11:00 and all your other IDs.

I love you, too. Let me wax poetically just like dear Eliazbeth Barrett Browning as I say “How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.” Ways? Oh well, back to Jim’s subject.

If Hillary promised all of us the moon and moonpies, I still wouldn’t vote for her. I have my standards, you know.

By jbmlaw

October 10, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

Dear Southern @ 11:17, funny story. You will need to read Camille Paglia’s article today – although I disagree with many of her arguments, I think she is the funniest and most provocative thinker on the libertarian left. She is as acerbic as Ann Coulter or Dorothy Parker, but she throws a lot of substance into the argument too. Link on Drudge at http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2007/10/10/britney/index1.html

By Hag Hater

October 10, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

Jim, can you block the government workers from blogging from their government computer networks? They are wasting our tax dollars, and you are helping them to do that.

By getalife

October 10, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

Jim thinks listening to the people is a bad thing.

I guess he wants the gop to ignore the people on amnesty like w.

By Dusty

October 10, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Ah, more compliments, those of our dear Captain of the BS (Boy Scouts).

I know, dear Cappie, that you are blinded by all the chili and onions you ate as a child and have retained their pleasant aroma. But control yourself.

Having been indulged with pearls, perfume and profits inspired by my copious pulchritude and given by my one and only, you are safe.

In the meantime, I will not accept Hillary’s bribe of five grand per child however tempting it may be. A million might make me weaker but she hasn’t mentioned that YET. I stand firm!!

By ron

October 10, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

By Dusty trails

October 10, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

But dusty, of course you will support Hillary right down the line if she is elected because she is our president and deserves our support, right? You would never oppose anything she did because we all must blidnly follow the leader and support the cause without question, right? Please tell us you aren’t just supporting Georgie boy because he is a Repulbican.

By hoochie mama

October 10, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

”..she (Hillary) said that if she becomes president, she will attempt to assemble a broad, centrist coalition on such key issues as health care, energy independence and national security.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/09/AR2007100902284_pf.html

So, Hillarity thinks she can build a bipartisan coalition. Sure she can. If Republicans sit down and shut up, lest they get that hand put up like Hillarity did to that man the other day when he challenged her war stance. Anyone can claim bipartisanship if you threaten them with grave retaliation consequences. The woman has ice water for blood and will do anything to get back in the White House. God help us if she gets elected and taxes on the most productive and successful in this nation go through the roof. Start preparing now by finding alternative methods of preventing the pinkos from confiscating your money for their causes. Legally of course. There are lots of tax loopholes out there. Do your homework. Remember, it’s your money, not theirs. You already pay enough in taxes.

By getalife

October 10, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

dusty is a fraud but these wingnuts are scum

Lie to attack a 12 year old boy and post his address.

Disgusting scumbags.

By Hag Hater

October 10, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

yo time for the brutal but fair truth, do not hold anything back, let it all out - Burn all the Witches at stake. All we need is Doppy Donna Shalala ruining america as she has ruined the university of miami s football team.

By No Laughing Matters

October 10, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

I should have been more precise with my criticism of Jim. I was attacking his contradictory opinions on taxation. Yesterday he wanted to find new ways to identify and tax wealth, and today he doesn’t want beneficiaries of $7M+ estates to have to pay taxes. It is inconsistent and illogical, like most of what Jim writes. Sorry for the confusion.

By Mike

October 10, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

“Jim thinks listening to the people is a bad thing. I guess he wants the gop to ignore the people on amnesty like w.” - getalife

And what exactly has been the Pelosi Party’s stance on amnesty? Uh huh.

Or the war or the manufactured lie of global warming for that matter? They are really tearing the trails up on listening to their people now, aren’t they. Hilarious.

By Dusty

October 10, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

Dusty trails & libs wail @12:09

Dear child, I do not worry about imaginary catastrophes such as having Hillary as President. But…just as Oedipus blinded himself when discovering atrocious ignomies, I would be tempted to do the same.

I support President George W. Bush who can look to the future of this country and plan its protection. I find his decisions wise, just and honest. If you could show me ANY signs of that in the Democratic Party, then it might be sensible to consider them. As yet, I have seen none.

By JK

October 10, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Is this a family value? “A family doctor for every family.” Hmmm… What if every family in America were actually able to afford a relationship with a family doctor? Treatment, advice, and preventive medicine on an steady, ongoing basis might make families healthier and reduce the cost of long-term, chronic diseases and critical care that are factored into what we ALL pay — and we do pay one way or another. Hmmm… I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say, “Why, YES, that would be a family value worth voting for!”

Unless of course you nice Republicans have a convincing reason why the health of American families is just not important.

By jm

October 10, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

Funny thing about most of the federal taxes that conservatives love to rail against (income and inheritance), they were put in place to pay for war debts. See, there was a point in this country’s history where its leaders recognized that wars cost money and needed to be paid for (unlike today).

The fact that the taxes were never removed is another issue all together.

By Dusty trails

October 10, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

Well then, Dusty, never mind. If you think that the decisions the decider has made are “wise, just and honest”, then it really doesn’t matter what you think about Hillary or anyone else. The old saying comes to mind: “It is better to keep one’s mouth shut and let others think you are a fool, rather than open it and remove all doubt”. Bless your heart.

By jbmlaw

October 10, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

Dear JK @ 12:25, I respectfully believe you do not get it – the health of American families is too important to be left to the government. We have to find a way to get government out of that business, as it, in character, is screwing up the industry.

By jbmlaw

October 10, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Dear jm @ 12:31, please join with conservatives to abolish the departments of education and agricultural, to pay for the wars against those who would kill us.

By Dusty

October 10, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw@12:34

JK is saying that we are too dumb to manage our lives so the government should take over all our affairs (and our health).

That may be true for JK but it is not true for me (and yet I am nowhere close to being a libertarian!). Let us continue in freedom and conservative ways.

By No Laughing Matter

October 10, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Why didn’t the GOP “abolish the departments of education and agriculture to pay for the wars against those who would kill us” when they were in charge of every branch of government? Why didn’t GOP come up with some way to pay for Bush’s Folly and the war in Afghanistan? Why is okay to borrow, borrow, borrow for the war on terror, but not okay to tax a portion of a dead person’s estate to pay for healthcare for poor children or to help people save for their retirement?

By @@

October 10, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Now you see it, now you don’t. Campaign advice on the baby bond from Sandy (Stuff It) Burglar.

When I first read about the baby bond I thought….careful Hillary, you may prove abortion a fallible concept. I mean, when someone can get $5,000 for a fetus presently holding at ZERO $$$ - what would that reveal about your payrrrraises for mankind?

For liberal Democrats, it’s ideal: A way to extract wealth from “the rich” and the dead for an entitlement that will be popular with the masses of voters.

Is she at least gonna make them dig the hole Jim? Nothing in life should come free of charge.

Dance Hillary dance.

Just don’t do it nekkid on a poll.

By Curious Observer

October 10, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

The health of American families is too important to be left to the government. We have to find a way to get government out of that business, as it, in character, is screwing up the industry.

Yes, indeed, give us Republicans a few hundred years and we’ll figure out a way for the poor to pay for medical treatment without government help. Maybe then kids won’t die from tooth infections and such. There must be a way. I’m thinking, but I’m not in a hurry …

By JK

October 10, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

Dear jmblaw: Actually, I do get it. (“It” meaning your particular set of family values.) If your exhalted “free market” worked as you say it does, then there wouldn’t be millions of hard-working Americans who don’t have access to affordable group (corporate) rates, yet make “too much” money to qualify for SCHIPs for their children. But I totally understand that that’s perfectly okay with you and Dusty. Go ahead and vote your “values;” I’ll vote mine.

By Captain Freedom

October 10, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

hhochie mama -

THE Captain must object to your epithet of the She-Demon Klinton as “Hilarity”. This tag inadvertently paints her as a character of mirth and frivolity, when in fact we all know that she is a flesh-hungry succubus who drinks the blood of virgins to increase her hypnotic hold on the liberal sheep of the nation.

THE Captain has it on strictest authority that the She-Demon HITLERy in fact has a gaping vag!na that is ringed by fangs, the better to rip the Glory of Our Manhood from each and every White Christian Male American. The woman never sleeps, but rather floats through the darkness seeking sleeping unfortunates who innocently experience nighttime priapism. These poor devils never know what hits them. It is true, laugh if you must, but it is the honest truth. During the day, her “boundless energy” (as described by the Satanic Hillary-worshipping media who never say a critical word of Her Wiccan Highness) is a direct result of the emasculation of Decent, God Fearing Americans. It’s why Vincent Foster was murdered, to protect her secret.

THE Captain believes hooche mama must be one of those fifth columnist Islamobloggers who pretend to be conservative yet intend to undermine True Belief. Kind of like Dusty, who steadfastly refuses to mock the so-called “less fortunate”. Fakers.

By Hag Hater

October 10, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

yo jack, I see they are allowing you to post from the drunk tank. How far are you into your 48 hour sentence for dui? Day 1 Hour 1: Shower with Bubba, dropped soap, felt sharp pain in anus while bending over to fetch dropped soap - bubba helped me up, what a great guy - get that guy a medal.

By Commander Guy

October 10, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Hag Hater is a trip. In one series of posts, he demonstrates his fundamental fear and revulsion of women through his inchoate hatred of Sen Clinton.

No sooner has he broadcast his fear/contempt of women than he displays a strange obsession with an@l rape. Is this fear or desire? You be the judge.

By Hag Hater

October 10, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Note from Jack to Command: Felt sharp pain in anus at Day 1 Hour 1 while bending over in shower, could it have been al quida or Osama? Did the bad guys put a nuke in my anus? Im screwed - Jack out

By Captain Freedom

October 10, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

Commander

THE Captain takes issue with your post. Frequent contemplation of an@l rape at the hands of well-muscled convicts against whom no normal man could resist is certainly not a sign of deviance.

THE Captain knows this from personal experience, and as everyone knows, THE Captain is 110% non-deviant heterosexual, like all Godly Conservative Christians.

By Hag Hater

October 10, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

Yo Commode Guy - FLUSH ON F A G BOY - HILLARY THE HAG MAY PROTECT YOUR ILK, BUT I WILL BASH YOU AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. WE NEED THE IRANIAN SOLUTION TO F* HERE IN AMERICA.

By jm

October 10, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw@12:36 - while I have no love for either the Department of Education or the Department of Agriculture, I think the more expedient course of action would be to eliminate senseless wars, like the one currently going on in Iraq and the one many seem to want in Iran.

By Commander Guy

October 10, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

Hag Hater doth protest too much, too loudly. What skeleton rattles in his closet or bathroom stall??

Ah well, better latent than never.

By Hag Hater

October 10, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE CALLING HILLARY THE HAG CLINTON BRILLIANT - why is that all these stupid women get a law degree and then claim they are brilliant? Name one brilliant thing the hag has ever done in her worthless life, other than get paper for taking courses? IMHO, she sucked as a lawyer, didnt suck enough as a wife, made a fool of herself in health care, and is a pi ss poor mother. Stop calling her brilliant, cause she aint, and neither are the semi and full d y k e s who surround her.

By Hag Hater

October 10, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

OK, I AM FULLY DEPLOYED IN FOREIGN OIL COMPANIES, SO CHIMP, PLEASE, OH PLEASE ATTACK IRAN!

By Dusty

October 10, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

Dusty Trails & liberals wail @12:31,

If opposing opinions are so offensive to you, you should not ask for them. In fact, you might get a protest going about “free speech”. You know. If you can’t agree with me, then shut up!!.

Since you do not support the President of the United States, may I ask you to name the president to whom you give your support? There’s Chavez, Castro, Mugabe, Ahma the Iranian as some possibilities. They, too, have the same feelings for our President as you do.

By TW

October 10, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

Does buying gas at Citgo mean we support Chavez AND Guiliani? Or just Chavez? Or just Guiliani?

By Redneck Convert

October 10, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

Well, I guess we got a whole bunch of TFTTs on this blog today. I’m gone for four hours and when I log back in it’s gone all crazy, some guy’s been punched in the shower and some other guy is ranting about how bad this Hillary woman is. Then Sister Dusty claims if you don’t support this president you must support another president from a foreign country. Lots of you need to go with TFTT for head treatment tomorrow. Go get fixed fast.

I got beer to deliver and don’t have no more time to fool with you crazies today.

By Hag Hater

October 10, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

I support no president, they should be treated as what they are: insignificant functionaries, not demi-gods for fools to worship.

By getalife

October 10, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

Why was Rudy booed at Yankee stadium when he is a so called hero of 9/11?

By Hag Hater

October 10, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Rudi aint no hero, he just a stinking lawyer scumbag politician. He carried no bodies on 9/11, saved no lives by his personal effort, ran into no burning buildings, lifted not a finger to help the victims on 9/11. Rudy, like all lawyer scum bags, just claimed the lions share of the glory and wealth for himself.

By No Laughing Matter

October 10, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Ah, that’s right, Dusty, if we don’t support GWB we must be foreign sympathizers or Muslim terrorists. See my last post. You keep confirming that statement. Bless your heart. In case you hadn’t heard, it is within the law to disagree with our leaders in this country. Something called the First Amendment.

By Curiously

October 10, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Hey Dusty,

When Hillary Clinton is President of the United States in a couple of years, which foreign president will you support instead of ours?

By jbmlaw

October 10, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Dear Curiously @ 2:44, I can answer for all conservatives – the only president any of us really like is Václav Klaus. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54803

By jbmlaw

October 10, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

A better article on Klaus, http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/206

By @@

October 10, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

Boy oh boy, that Václav Klaus knows a socialism when he’s sees socialism.

It is based on big and patronizing government…

When I rushed in on my lunch hour to read Jim’s column, I mistakenly read the title as “Hillbilly’s baby bond doesn’t poll out”

Had to do a double take. Then I thought really….who’s talking down to whom? Hillary is addressing the ignorant of course.

That’s why conservatives aren’t buying it. We’re just not that into her.

Liberals are.

Some liberal at ml’s found nothing wrong with the baby bond proposal. Who’s his mama?

I guess she abandoned her baby boy. Time to grow up.

By VoR

October 10, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

“The owner of a small business worth $7M who wished to have it run by his heirs would simply gift them stock in the corporation during his lifetime.”

What if the founder wants to retain ownership until he dies? Should he cede ownership to someone who might fall out of favor with the owner. Based on your tart reply, the answer is “yes.”

And if someone gifts a $7 million corporation while he is alive—and the founder of the corporation has, say, two children, how much would he be able to gift tax free to the two children beginning at age 60 [his age]? If he has a life expectancy of 75, then he would gift $7 million over 15 years to two heirs.

You are right—I am not a corporate lawyer. And I didn’t know you could gift $233,333 annually to an heir to where the heir didn’t have to pay taxes. That’s great. I’ve really learned something on this forum………..

By @@

October 10, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

Phooey! Omit the “a” before socialism.

By getalife

October 10, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

If w did not break the law, why does he want immunity?

Worse than Nixon.

By georgia 74

October 10, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

Jim, don’t you know this already exists. It’s called the child tax credit, passed by conservative Republicans, signed by Clinton and Bush, it is far more costly than Hillary’s plan. I agree, cut out all child tax incentives, why should childless taxpayers pay for other peoples children and all their problems, when more than half were unplanned and unwanted.

By JK

October 10, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

Getalife, that’s a good question. I’ve long wondered why our leaders who claim to worship God and claim they’ve done nothing wrong have refused to testify under oath, even to the point of demonizing those who request it. If I could, I’d ask, Mr. President, what is it about the words: “I swear to tell the truth SO HELP ME GOD” that you find so offensive?

By Master of Flatulence

October 10, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

Much of what is written on this blog consists of the same elements as the humid mist that envelopes me at all times.

By Dusty

October 10, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

It seems that liberals cannot distinguish the meaning of certain words. For instance:support means to maintain, sustain, uphold.

If you do not support (maintain, sustain, uphold) the President of the USA, I simply ask “Whom do you SUPPORT?” I even gave you a few suggestions. You do not live in a vacuum. You either support or DO NOT SUPPORT the president.

You can make that into anything you want. You chose terrorist which I never mentioned.

Twist and turn, poor liberals. You choose to be against almost everything. Then you want us to believe that you are a positive factor. It won’t work.

In my opinion which I am free to give just like you, you are undermining OUR country by your LACK OF SUPPORT FOR ALMOST EVERYTHING AMERICAN. That includes the president, the troops, the war and overall…the country. Liberals are now the proverbial “Ugly Americans”.

By Curiously

October 10, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

Hey Dusty,

When Hillary Clinton is President of the United States in a couple of years, which foreign president will you SUPPORT instead of ours?

By No Laughing Matter

October 10, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

Dusty, you are correct. You can give your opinion, we can judge its credibility. You have no idea what I do or do not support as an American, other than I do not support, maintain, sustain or uphold the idiot who holds the oval office right now. I do support, etc. the Constitution of the United States of America, the troops, the Bill of Rights and the laws of this country. I do not care what you believe about me. The German people supported, sustained, maintained and upheld Hitler for many years. Turned out to be wrong, I think even you would agree. A little bit of cynicism is good for the soul. Try it some time. Methinks you need to stop drinking the cool aid. Selah.

By nancy

October 10, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

Dusty is correct, sir! She rocks. No laughing matter makes the debate losing mistake of comparing Bush to Heetler, (unt his frauline Teetler).

Never do that; it’s stupid and so abused that the worst hacks gave up on it long ago. The whole 3rd Reich thing just doesn’t sell anymore. Thank goodness.

The last funny vestiges of Hitler was “Hitler Youth”, but that faded in the 80’s man.

Its just not funny, nor does it win debate points.

By Hag Hater

October 11, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

Jack here: Day 1 Hour 2: Jack is becoming a little suspicious of Bubba and his need for hourly group showers. Could Bubba be an al Cutie sleeper cell? Jack knows there is a nuke in Jacks boot (as Jacks daily dump did not come on time or at all for that matter), put there by Bubba in the shower at hour 1. Jack must not allow Bubba to arm to nuke in Jack boot! Jack Out

By WFC

October 11, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

• Why don’t people complain about the billions of dollars being poured down the rathole that is Iraq?

• I detest the “checkbook” “patriots” who are making tons of money off the deaths in Iraq.

*I’m no fan of Hillary but must admit that I’ll be pleased and amused when the “willowy blonde shills” for “old money (Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, Elizabeth Hasselbeck, etc.) are on the outside looking in. That includes the hack Sean Hannity as well. At least Bill O’Reilley has principles.

*It will be a long time before the Republican Party recovers from the damage “W” has done to it. I bet that his old man (who had some sense) cringes every time “W” opens his mouth. The genetic pool has been drained in that family. Where is John Quincy Adams now that we need him?