Thinking Right

By Craig

September 25, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this

Yeah it’s truly awful when “juries reflect the will of the people.”

By Mid-South Philosopher

September 25, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim.

Many of our generation were taught that purpose of the American court system is to see that justice is done.

WRONG!

The purpose of the American court system is to administer the law. If justice is achieved…well, that is just a good fringe benefit.

That being true, I find myself in total agreement with your position today. I, for one, am sick of paying for the upkeep of capital offenders.

Of course, with the collection of losers that we send annually to Atlanta, I would not hold my breath waiting for change. Those statemen can’t even pass a budget!

By Redneck Convert

September 25, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

Well, as a fine upstanding GA redneck, I got to agree with Wooten. Juice ‘em all. Just run a shuttle service from the courthouses every day and stack up the bodies after we finish with them. If the Death Penalty was good enough to take care of Jesus, it’s good enough for any criminals. The bible is trying to tell us something there.

I got no use for chicken jury people that won’t go for the Death Penalty. Get rid of life without parole and make everybody that’s found guilty go straight to the gurney. Better, bring back hanging and the electric chair. It will cut way down on crime. As my buddy Jim Earl says a person that has been executed has never done another crime. The reason we got so much crime is because we don’t use the Death Penalty enough.

Anyway, I don’t want my taxes going to feed a bunch of convicts and give them a cot and TV and all that stuff. I want them to suffer before they get the juice. We use to call it revenge but nowadays we call it Justice. You can just see how happy the famblys of murdered people are when the guy gets the juice. Then they get Closure, which follows Justice.

If the state needs some volunteers to haul the bodies away after they get juiced I know a bunch of people with long bed pickups that would do it for free. Heck, a lot of us would pump the poison in for free too.

Well, I got to go to a meeting down at the Church of Holiness. We are planning a Revival of Peace and Love for others. Have a good day everybody.

By Michael Blankenship

September 25, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this

As they say, sommon sense ain’t so common. This rant is a fine example of that belief. Mr. Wooten opines that Life in prison is not a deterrent. He fails to mention to numerous studies that suggest that executions are no more or no less an effective deterrent. And he seems to want mandatory death sentences, a concept dismissed by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1976. The rest of the wolrd is abandoning capital punishment, which will happend in the U.S. eventually. Public support has declined since 2000 as has the size of death row and the number of executions. Perhaps Mr Wooten would be more comfortable in a country that embraces executions with more gusto - like Iran or China.

By Michael Blankenship

September 25, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this

As they say, common sense ain’t so common. This rant is a fine example of that belief. Mr. Wooten opines that life in prison is not a deterrent. He fails to mention to numerous studies that suggest that executions are no more or no less an effective deterrent. And he seems to want mandatory death sentences, a concept dismissed by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1976. The rest of the world is abandoning capital punishment, which will happened in the U.S. eventually. Public support has declined since 2000 as has the size of death row and the number of executions. Perhaps Mr. Wooten would be more comfortable in a country that embraces executions with more gusto - like Iran or China.

By Travis

September 25, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this

Craig, juries are not supposed to reflect the will of the people. That is the function of a general election. Juries are charged to decide guilty or not guilty.

As for the column, the death penalty has become a logistical nightmare. Major reforms are required to make this punishment worthwhile. If these reforms are not made, then life without parole becomes the only viable option. Personally, I say make the needed reforms and apply the death penalty to those who deserve it.

By Pandora

September 25, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

I hope that the death penalty in all states come to an end. Wrong is wrong. Only God has a right to give and or take life, not man! Research has shown that death penalty states have a much higher brutal crime rate than states that do not have that barbaric way of killing people. As long as the death penalty is around, innocent men and women will continue to die for a crime they did not commit.

By Explaining Wooten

September 25, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

Phasers on stun, wide beam.

“But Captain, these are Klingons”.

Phasers on maim, wide beam.

“But Captain, they violated the neutral zone.”

What do you want from me, Scotty, if we kill them there’ll be paperwork. I hate paperwork.

But Captain, the Klingons said you mug too much and do the same act in every scene..”

Photon torpedoes launchers, FIRE!!!

By Your Dukakis Moment

September 25, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

Well one knew it wouldn’t take long before the bed wetters cried all over this blog with their compassion for cold blooded murderers. For me, that’s neither here nor there. Fortunately where I live - Kennesaw - one can take matters into his own hands, so to speak. One thing about that is for certain for a murderous perp: there would be zero chance of killing again.

By Mid-South Philosopher

September 25, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this

One other observation.

My liberal…excuse me… my progressive friends love to site the research that calls into question the premise that capital punishment is a deterrent. There are pros and cons on both sides, but the one undebatable truth in the argument is that the criminal, who is executed, is permanently deterred from commiting further crimes!

By cranky old man

September 25, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

Alternatively, in some of the more vile child molestation cases, allow juries to award a sentence of life without parole and no segregation from the general prison population. The taxpayers would rarely have to foot the bill for the prisoner’s upkeep for more than a few weeks.

By Anonymous

September 25, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this

Again Wooten betrays how far from actual conservatism his mind really is. To him, it’s not possible that anyone could seriously want to deprive the state of the power over life and death… no, it’s just “moral squeamishness” that’s interfering with his righteous bloodlust.

Juries shouldn’t be allowed to make decisions Wooten doesn’t like. Heck, let’s dispense with juries altogether! The state should have the power to kill anybody Wooten dislikes, WITHOUT trial! (Who was it suggesting we double the size of Guantanamo, to handle all the people who need to “disappear”?)

The fact that the label “conservative” appears anywhere NEAR these attitudes is revoltingly inappropriate.

By Shar

September 25, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

The death penalty is reserved for those convicted felons whose crimes a jury deems to meet certain specific parameters. It is a judgement call, structured by the law. Those who meet these parameters are automatically entitled to public funding for appeals that last for years, and they are housed in special cell blocks that add incremental costs to their incarceration.

A criminal sentenced to life without parole does not qualify for these benefits. No special cells, no automatic defenders. Just oblivion, at a lower cost to the public.

Juries are supposed to weigh intent, circumstance and the specifics of the law to arrive at a just verdict and sentence. While the subjectivity of a group can and does yield disparate results, overall juries provide the fairest and most respected consideration and interpretation, which is why the right to a judgement by a jury of peers is one of our country’s most cherished promises. Stripping juries of power and handing it over to a judge who makes a sentencing decision “based on an awareness of what’s happening in other judicial districts” (why is that germane to a given trial?) would be deeply unjust.

Juries should “reflect the will of the people.” That’s the whole point. A sentence of life without parole protects the public and in fact saves money over a death penalty sentence. The particulars of a given crime may incite others to anger and a desire for vengeance, but a jury which has heard all the details from both sides should have discretion to sentence as they see fit.

By Travis

September 25, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

Several comments have already been made about paying for upkeep of a capital offender. How do you feel about paying for the defense of a capital offender. Take for example, the Brian Nichols case. If I remember correctly, I believe that $1,000,000 has already been paid for his public defender by the state. And we will still pay to house him for the next ten years or so while all the appeals are filed and argued. How many years could he be housed in prison for the amount of money already spent?

The death penalty argument is not about money. It is about a fitting punishment for a crime.

By Pstar

September 25, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

Death Penaly? Yeah right! The death penalty is not a deterrent to crime. Because of lengthy appeals process, inmates can sit on death row 15 - 20 years before exhausting all of their appeals. What message does this give to the criminals. Nothing! Life without parole is another waste. It just gives the criminal a free ride until death. Great system Georgia.

By Anonymous

September 25, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

Travis: “How do you feel about paying for the defense of a capital offender?”

I feel very good about it, actually. Because EVERYONE in our society is guaranteed a hearing and representation, no matter what the charges against him. To do otherwise would make justice a salable commodity, depending on how much money you’ve got to defend yourself. (Remember O.J. Simpson?)

Public defenders are a vital component of our justice system, and I’m glad to pay their salaries. Remember, it’s the power of the STATE to detain and punish without accountability that’s the real threat—an individual’s crimes, even a murderer or rapist, pale in comparison to the tyranny that would result from removing those requirements.

Welcome to America!

By Curious Observer

September 25, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this

I have braced myself for the plethora of arguments to the effect that people who receive capital punishment will not commit another crime. I can almost see the tobacco juice running down the chins of such savage morons. BTW, Mid-South Philosopher, it’s “cite” the research, not “site” it. You might at least show a little literacy while you’re spouting your mountain creed. TFTT has ignorance for an excuse for his misspellings; you at least should be more accountable. Have another plug of Red Man.

The United States must be proud of being mentioned in the same breath with Iran and China in the use of the death penalty as a sort of people’s revenge. This form of punishment is an anachronism, a return to the kind of blood sport in which Britain once had more than 200 capital offenses.

Only a moron would argue that imprisonment without the possibility of parole is the equivalent of being soft on crime. Those who argue for the death penalty essentially deny the possibility that human beings can change. That denial itself contradicts the so-called Christian philosophy that they want to proclaim and impose on everybody else.

By Explaining Wooten

September 25, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

Look at Wooten’s recent blogs: He advocates neglecting sick children of the poor, a return to the fugitive slave act, an expansion of the war in the middle east to include Iran and probably Syria, and now he vants to keel more americans mit der needle injectionheimer.

I mean, if Hitler had a blog, wouldn’t it look like this one? Wooten is out of control! (regis).

He’s a Katzenjammer Fiend. Next, he’ll be advocating prison for panhandlers, exile for drunk drivers, and an eye 4 an I-pod for shoplifters. There’ll be none of us left intact!!!

Warning, kids: Never toilet paper Wooten’s lawn; he’s got the half-wolves confiscated as evidence in the Vick case guarding his property.

Where will it end? Wooten’s already admitted he’s waiting in the wings to take over the country with a band of conservatives from the lunatic fringe. He calls them his brown-eyes. (They only moon offenders now, but who knows what they’ll expose insurgents to if they ever do take over)

The Right gets a lot of mileage out of every blip on the campaign radar. Betray us, Hillary, Jena, and now Mother Theresa, who apparently had doubts, thus she was a godless communists giving free care to the starving and diseased socialists in africa.

Life in prison 4 Mother T’s corpse would be too good for her, that’s 4 sure…..that’s 4 dang sure.

By JK

September 25, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

Timothy McVeigh only served, what, less than four years for all the pain he caused? He was a young man. Seems like fifty years sitting in a tiny little cell regretting his situation would have been more appropriate. He was free of the suffering of prison in less than four years. In his own mind, he got to be a martyr and die for his cause. Not punishment enough, if you ask me.

By JK

September 25, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

Timothy McVeigh only served, what, less than four years for all the pain he caused? He was a young man. Seems like fifty years sitting in a tiny little cell regretting his situation would have been more appropriate. He was free of the suffering of prison in less than four years. In his own mind, he got to be a martyr and die for his cause. Not punishment enough, if you ask me.

By Just Nasty and Mean

September 25, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

Brian Nichol’s overpriced attorneys are singlehandedly and strategically bankrupting the indigent criminal defense budget for the entire state. Their strategy appears to be to break the budget so the state won’t have the funds to pursue the death penalty for an alleged multi homicide maniac. There should be a new law that states that if there are more than 3 credible witnesses or unmistakable clear video evidence to an heinous crime, the trial should be put on a fast-track trial and execution.

By John V

September 25, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

I am not for the death penalty for moral reasons, since I feel it is wrong for the state to use a civil servant to kill another human being no matter how terrible the person may be. The real problem is that prisoners in the USA have too many luxuries and freedoms. Life without parole is good thing if the prisoner is in solitary, no tv, no contact with the outside world. Basically it should be a living tomb.

By @@

September 25, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

Oh lawdy Jim! I don’t think we can visit the death penalty issue without taking a look at one of our most liberal Supreme Court justices opinion.

Stevens told me he was troubled by the fact that Yamamoto, a highly intelligent officer who had lived in the United States and become friends with American officers, was shot down with so little apparent deliberation or humanitarian consideration. The experience, he said, raised questions in his mind about the fairness of the death penalty. “I was on the desk, on watch, when I got word that they had shot down Yamamoto in the Solomon Islands, and I remember thinking: This is a particular individual they went out to intercept,” he said. “There is a very different notion when you’re thinking about killing an individual, as opposed to killing a soldier in the line of fire.” Stevens said that, partly as a result of his World War II experience, he has tried on the court to narrow the category of offenders who are eligible for the death penalty and to ensure that it is imposed fairly and accurately. He has been the most outspoken critic of the death penalty on the current court.

We’re talking the same Yamamoto who orchestrated the attack on Midway.

From the Opinion Journal:

Amid another global war, it’s unsettling to think that someone inclined toward such a softhearted view of the enemy is in a position of power.

Liberals are weird!

By Craig

September 25, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

To Anonymous and Explaining, you’re absolutely correct. Wooten is increasingly uncomfortable with core American values.

Jury of your peers? Nope, too squishy! We need more government involvement.

Habeas corpus? You gotta be kidding.

Adherence to the treaties that we sign, like the Geneva Convention? What a quaint idea.

Pay for the wars we get into by making joint sacrifices? Nah, our children can pay…

Allow Georgians to make their own decisions about purchasing alcohol on Sundays? No way, the Baptists would run amok!

Increasingly, radical right wingers and radical left wingers are more and more alike in their disdain for core American values.

By Mid-South Philosopher

September 25, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

I humbly submit to the due chastisment by Curious Observer of my misspelling of the word cite.

Sometimes multitasking leads to errors.

With respect to CO’s suggest that I have another plug of Red Man, I will respectfully decline. If, however, you have a little sour mash, I will join you in a libation. It will get my body going and, perhaps, calm you down!

By @@

September 25, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

Whoops!

Stick an “apostrophe” where it belongs in my first paragraph.

By Explaining Wooten

September 25, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

I was arrested, railroaded, and imprisoned falsely once, and it wasn’t until the very last moment when they caught the real offender that I was released.

However, when I walked past the people who had imprisoned me, they looked at me like I was still the offender, they had become accustomed to the injustice and seemed reluctant to adjust to my new citizenship. No apology, but rather, “You’re still scum, but the law says we have to let you go, so get out of here afore we changes our minds.”

When you set up a justice machine, people become monsters. From the bailiff to the judge to the cops to the lawyers to the stenographers and janitors. Something gets in the air, and this group think totally explains the holocaust. We make evil like bees make honey, it just drips off us.

The FF knew this when they drafted the constitution. It’s why they revolted. It’s EXACTLY Y they revolted.

Our rights? Wooten loot’n & poot’n us.

By Symbolic Capital

September 25, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

Okay, let’s say we grant your request. Execute them all. Then you can’t reasonably object to a more vigorous indigent defense system. I shudder to think what could happen if a SWAT team of expert death penalty prosecutors goes up against overworked, underprepared and underfinanced public defenders doing what little they can for indigent and incompetent defendants. Justice is not served if the innocent are convicted while the killers roam free.

The regular reports of death row reprieves via DNA or new evidence demonstrate why we must be balanced in our rush to convict. The egregious examples Jim cites lack any shadow of a doubt, I assume, but not all cases are so clear cut as to who did the deed. In principle, in the abstract, I support the death penalty, but in practice it’s highly problematic.

As to deterrence, I think it’s overrated as an argument. For one thing, how do we prove deterrence? Can we find people who decided NOT to kill someone because they were afraid of the penalty? Furthermore, normal, law-abiding people refuse to kill, steal, rape or injure not because of the penalties, but because they already believe such things are wrong. Criminals don’t think of the consequences of their actions, or don’t care. The question is: How do we prevent them from doing it again? With punishment fitting the crime. (Now, maybe deterrence works to some degree, I’m just not sure how we prove it.)

By Dusty

September 25, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

Many things come to mind this morning.

To Mid South Phil, 8:26

If the American court system is only to administer the law and justice is a fringe benefit, then doctors only administer medicine and a cure ia a fringe benefit. There’s something wrong in there some place.

RedNeck 8:27

Go to the Church of the Holiness and repent for your lack of truth in word.

Pandora 8:38

“Only God has the right to take a life” you posted. That is why we send violent life-taking murderers back to God for more instruction on that principle.

Explaining Wooten @ 8:39

Thanks but no thanks. Wooten explains himself very well without your help. Right, PoFo(man of interminable IDs)?

By Captain Freedom

September 25, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

THE Captain wishes to enter this debate with a quote from scripture:

“Kill them all, let God sort them out.”

It is the Christian approach to Justice.

This parallels closely the dictum of Col. Kurtz.

“Exterminate the brutes.”

It’s the Right Thing to do.

Now I am off to meet Redneck and Sister Dusty at a prayer meeting. God Bless You all. (IF you are the right sort of person; otherwise, to Hell with you. Literally.)

By Southern Democrat

September 25, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

My views on this subject are too intertwined with my religious beliefs to be of much good in this debate. As Mrs. Southern Democrat has often said, “Seeking conversion is admirable, condemning and criticizing another’s religion is just petty.”

In this vein I say to my fellow Christians that the New Testament and the words of Christ are pretty clear on this subject. Lex talionis is summarily rejected in the Sermon on the Mount.

By RCH

September 25, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

Even though the death penalty is not “cruel and unusual” punishment, I appose its administration on grounds of possible error. Most likely a innocent individual has already been executed. One million rights do not justify one screw up. As seen with the Duke 3, their are many D.A’s,policeman,etc. who have pressure placed on them to provide convictions. Unfortunately sometimes they bend the rules under this pressure. Any irregularities by officers of the court should be swiftly dealt with and those guilty should spend time in the same prison where they sent the innocent party.Individuals likeExplaining Wooten should be compensated and put back in the same position as if they never went to jail.

Life without parole should be exactly that. Serving life in the barest conditions. Maybe we should bring back Devils Island.

By Explaining Wooten

September 25, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

Dont read this if you’re on heart medication, but Ahmadinejad did ask the right questions about 911. Why did it happen. Who was involved? Where is the profile of the hijackers? Where were they in the weeks and months preceding the attacks. Why is there no report explaining every aspect of what why when where and who? What sleeper cells? Who were these people? How long were they hiding in ambush, living normal lives, just waiting for that call to become the Islamic Lion? Where did they live? Who knew them? Where is the interview with friends and neighbors? Where is the complete breakdown of their movements and lifestyle choices? What is the estimate about how many cells there were on 911? How many still exist?

On 911, I remember a report where one carload of hijackers ran away from their rental car when they thought someone made them. What happened with that? (they left behind evidence). Why the coverup? How could they “get away” ? They were in an airport for heavens sakes.

Ahmadinejad did us a favor by exposing a neglected area that could embarrass bush and cheney, who are worse criminals than we can even imagine. Bush’s failed oil company was bought by the Saudis, did you know that? Bush was bailed out by the Saudis, and he is beholding to them. How many Saudis were in the 911 gang? How many Saudis escaped on that plane after we grounded all flights? Saudi Royal Family. SRF.

SRF. Who here knows about Saudis? Who are the Saudis? What is their story? How much influence do they weild on our foreign policy? Do we want a president bush being friends and a-hole buddies with Saudi Kings?

No, no, no, Ahmadinejad asked the right questions. The press has never shown that kind of news prowess. Sunlight is the best disinfectant, people.

BTW: To protest Ahmadinejad’s speech, Jessie Owens ran the 100 meter dash in 9.76 seconds on the Columbia University track. (oh, dont reach 4 that one, getawipe, it’s WAY over your head).

By Van

September 25, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

I see the option of Life without parole, as a way to keep from going to trial - a plea bargain.

As a method to save the tax payers monies and speed up justice, I would allow it.

As a plea bargain, it has merit, as a jury option, I do not think it is appropriate.

I must confess, I am not in favor of the jury deciding on the punishment for a crime, I think they should only be allowed to judge the innocents or guilt of the defendant.

By SharonH

September 25, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Okay universe, you win!! I agree with Wooten, every freakin’ word. ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?!

By Freddy K.

September 25, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

Public hangings, that’s the way to go.

By getalife

September 25, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

I thought wingnuts were pro life.

But for the death penalty.

But for genocide in Iraq.

Mmmmmm, pathetic.

By Mid-South Philosopher

September 25, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

To Dusty @ 9:53

Dusty, you are correct.

The preponderance of doctors follow acceptable medical procedures. While much of the time, this action results in success (the patient gets well), there are numerous cases where process does not work (the patient does not impove and even dies)!

All things considered, I suspect that the medical profession is more successful in affecting cures than the American court system is in doing justice.

You are become wiser and wiser, Dusty.

By getalife

September 25, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Here is Y you cant have the death penalty: U cant disprove an irrefutably contradictory negative in a null set of conflicting discrepancies.

‘muff said

By TEX 12

September 25, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

Wooten is right on target. America has become pussified. That’s why there is so much crime to begin with. Predators prey on the weak, that’s why are jails are filling up. All these jokers who have grown-up with this share, be nice, everybody gets a trophy, there are no losers, blah. blah, BS get reemed when they are adults. I’m in law enforcement and i see it everyday.

I have had grown men call 911 to have an officer (me) search there house because they heard a noise downstairs - while they cower in their locked bedroom with their wife! One guy actually threw his keys out the window, so i could unlock the door, because he was so chickensht to leave his bedroom!

This is what we’ve become? A nation founded on hard-work, courage and at times violence to secure our own way of life. Now we are a people afraid to intervene when another is being hurt and scared to protect our own homes.

Most of the people who are anti-death penalty have never seen a brutal crime scene, have never witnessed a bludgeoned head or smelled death, or sensed the rage or violence a scene can hold.

they would sing a different tune if it were there loved ones, and they would wonder why a person who had been arrested 6,8, sometimes 10 times prior was still out on the street. Or why a guy who had been convicted of rape and two separate occassions was out on the street again. Oh, and this time it was rape and murder.

God have mercy on the MF who comes to my home or near my family, because I won’t.

By Gil

September 25, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

Liberals who say the Right are hypocritical because we are both pro-life and for the death penalty only reveal that they lack the moral capacity to distinguish between innocent babies and guilty murderers. Now THAT’s pathetic.

By Donald

September 25, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

Right on target Mr. Wooten. You are correct-life without parole is just another cop-out. As usual, liberals never want to look at the facts.

By Donald

September 25, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Right on target Mr. Wooten. You are correct-life without parole is just another cop-out. As usual, liberals never want to look at the facts.

By Donald

September 25, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Right on target Mr. Wooten. You are correct-life without parole is just another cop-out. As usual, liberals never want to look at the facts.

By Rod

September 25, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

If we went with more use of the Death Penalty, some of our bloggers would disappear. Every day, during his recreation time, tftt gets online to blog. With the death penalty, he’d be killed and we wouldn’t be able to read the continual diarreha of the mouth that he spouts forth on here.

Hmmmm, Death Penalty it is!

By Dennis

September 25, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten writes,”We can either accept that juries reflect the will of the people and, therefore, disparities that superficially appear “arbitrary” will result. Or we can change the system.”

Apparently the hapless victim here is Jim Wooten, who, by his statement above, sets himself up as prosecutor, judge and jury.

Personally, I’d like to see George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld, and a host of others tried as war criminals and sentenced by Mr. Wootens standards.

But Mr. Wooten is talking hypocritically if he thinks that the method and the rationale of these guys justifies their behavior.

They too, are killers.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Facts

September 25, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Donald - stuttering problem there?

Gil - you really are stupid. Being pro-life, means treasuring EVERY life, not killing any. To then be for capital punishment shows you’re not mentally capable to making a choice.

Van - you want life in prison as a plea to save money?!?!?! Um, 30 years in Prison ain’t cheap and costs $100,000’s - maybe a million. A trial (other than Nichols) would cost the taxpayers less than $50,000.

By No Laughing Matter

September 25, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

Jim seems to raise this issue periodically, with some tweak of the jury system in mind to make it easier for him and his like-minded “band of conservatives” to kill. Last year, it was allowing a jury verdict to be less than unanimous. It is part of Jim’s and the GOP’s strategy of eroding individual rights. This country was built on the principle of innocent until proven guilty and a right to trial by a jury of one’s peers. It has worked pretty well for 231 years. We should stick with it. Why a bunch of wild eyed conservatives decide who should die? What’s to stop them from deciding that liberals, environmentalists, actors, or anyone else that disagrees with them should be summarily executed? It is truly a slippery slope, and not one I’d want Jim’s “band of ‘conservatives’” to be controlling.

By Dusty

September 25, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

MidSouth Phil 10:24

Thanks for the compliment, I think. (My parents said I was born “wise” but they said it with a smile.hmmm)

Disagreeing is always more fun. So….doctors fail 100%. We all die.

A few survive the Justice System. I believe the innocent have a fair chance there. Let us hope so.

As always, nothing is perfect. In any case, we are blessed to be living in one of the better locations of justice.

By getalife

September 25, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Remember when the Foot-fetish Murderer got off scott-free because of reasonable gout?

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September 25, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

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By getalife

September 25, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

PF,

I know you want to be me but use your own name.

Thanks.

By Anthony

September 25, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Wait isnt Wooten pro-life?

By Darth Cheney

September 25, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

Lets ask that Quack lawyer, JMBLAW: Mr. Quack, should life without parole be allowed in GA? QuackLaw: How would I know, I never graduated from law school. However, if the defendent is a liberal, I say hang him high.

By getalife

September 25, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

Remember the time the foot-fetish murderer got off scott-free because of reasonable gout?

By getalife

September 25, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Anthony,

I guess he is for abortion now becuse he wants the death penalty and the genocide in Iraq.

Or he could just be another pathetic wingnut hypocrite.

By getalife

September 25, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Remember the time the Catholic Mass Murderer got off scott free because he was reasonably devout?

By Michael Blankenship

September 25, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Inmates who are executed are not deterred. They are incapacitated.

By Patrick

September 25, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

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By jm

September 25, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

I sometimes wonder if people confuse justice with revenge.

That being said, when there is no longer a need for a Innocence Project and police departments, district attorneys, courts and judges no longer have any bias or private agendas, then I will support the Death Penalty.

By Father Law

September 25, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Where the children, where the children

By time for the sparkling witty harsh truth

September 25, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Funny how its black killers (in GA) that “get away” without the death penalty far more often than whites. Just one more despicable black racist/white bigot LIE!! Yet do U hear blacks and their smug concerned racial spoils self serving bleating clergy about such blatant racial inequity???

Another vile despicable black LIE:

During last Thursday’s civil rights march in Jena, Louisiana — The monkey brained racist (clearly only an ape brained like racist would continuously claim such barefaced lies as being true) Jesse Jackson said there is something wrong with a country where there are more black youths in jail than in college. It’s a popular UNHINGED LIE among black activists.

But government figures indicate that it is not true. Census Bureau statistics show there were 864,000 black men in college in 2005. The Justice department puts the number of black men in federal and state prisons and jails at around 837,000 as of June, 2006. And — for those in the 18 — 24 age bracket — black men in college outnumber those behind bars by four to one.

BUT YET still NO APOLOGY FROM the human scum jackasson!!

The recent video of yet more thuggish gangbanging black scum beating a single white boy - this time FOUR black scum against ONE thirteen year old white boy in Norfolks VA shows that not only are an increasing number of violent ebonics spouting blacks are racist scum but that this kind of black race hate is occuring all over the country. But yet the black racist hate pimps like jackasson and al burn them to death in Freddie’s my brave black bruthas sharptongue have been very strangely silent on this latest black racist outrage!!! Funny how its invariably busted black criminals that these race pimp scum EVER gleefully racebait their anti-white hate for!!!

The truth about the Jena SIX beat down SCUM is also being deliberately left out of the party of hate media. The nooses in the tree was some kind of local joke … even a black teacher at the school admits that and was laughing about it. In fact a number of kiddies the next day were playing with the nooses in the tree as teachers watched, swinging them around etc … it was a bit of harmless fun - although not in the best taste. Clearly the vile black racist racebaiters do NOT want folks to know the truth!!! How else could these scum justify such a pathetic SHAMELESS racebaiting pity party for SIX BLACK RACIST THUGS who beat a white boy unconscious??!!

The three white yoofs that put up the nooses were NOT just suspended for a week as the black racist LIARS and the white liberal bigots would have you believe. They were actually suspended for a fortnight and were also banished for a MONTH to a another school for local delinquents. They lost six weeks of their education, which doubtless will show up on their skool records.

Freaking hilarious to see the unhinged pompous commie creep wanKKKer peeping tom outdid its festering maggot brained self today. Sneering at folks for p!ss poor spelling is the anally retentive mark of a socially inadequate, deeply insecure sad little c nt!! BTW bubbaturd I left the ‘u’ out of the best/most apposite ENGLISH word that describes U *peeping tom* simply because the ‘swear filter’ does not except (sic - goad goad) such pithy sententious ‘epiffets’ (sic - goad goad) to descibe human skkkum like yourself!!

By getalife

September 25, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

JM, your comment has convinced me that the death penalty is underused. Ditto Patrick’s comment. Ditto sir wipesalot’s.

Ditto, to yieux, and yieux and yieux and yieux and yoohoo!

remember the kick-boxer murderer who got off scott free because of reasonable bout?

remember the mass-murderer who got off because he was reasonably devout?

remember the foot-fetish murderer who got off because of reasonable gout?

‘muff said………D’OH!

By Southern Democrat

September 25, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

@@ at 9:19,

You clearly do not remember who appointed Stevens. Or Souter for that matter.

Isn’t it funny how conservatives called Stevens and Souter “the smartest jurists they could find” when nominated and now excoriate them when their opinions don’t toe the perceived party line?

By Adam

September 25, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Curious Observer is predictably very concerned about the well being of convicted killers, rapists, and murderers. He is horrified at the thought of morons with tobacco juice on their chins deciding their fate, which might include (perish the thought) the death penalty. Cherish the criminals but damn the citizens. As we know, it was our evil society that drove them to their momentary mistakes in judgment.

Well CO why don’t we set up a system whereby good Leftist whiners like you could volunteer to “adopt” a convicted killer like the one Jim described who deliberately attacked chidren in their beds. You would have the opportunity to have them live with you and be compensated by the State for expenses while you counsel them, console them, guide them, and protect them from the moron savages who would wish them ill will.

By Mike Jones

September 25, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Jim said, “Life without parole is no deterrent to people such as Dunnigan.”

What people are you referring too? I also noted that you have cited DeKalb and Fulton. Was that a shot at black people and our views on the fact that we receive the death penalty more than any other race? Or could it be that we have more traditional Christian views.

What is it with you conservative republicans fascination with death?

And I have a news flash the death penalty is not a deterrence for anyone with evil in their hearts.

By No Laughing Matter

September 25, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Justice is not a party line issue. Justice is supposed to be impartial,and fairly meted out to all. You don’t like how it is being adminstered, vote out the people in charge.

Just because Jim or some other wild eyed conservative doesnt’ agree with the decision because it doesn’t satisfy their blood lust doesn’t mean the system should be changed.

By Shar

September 25, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Dear Tex12 @ 10:29: I thought that law enforcement strongly urges civilians to stay away from potential baddies and leave the searching and seizing to you professionals. If I were to hear someone creeping around in my house, I’d call 911 and do what they tell me, which is to stay in a safe location and wait for the police to arrive, limiting my helpfulness to throwing keys out of the window. Is this not the proper procedure?

Also, killing or otherwise incapacitating someone who poses an immediate threat to your family is self defense, and thus excused under the law. The justice system does not have the opportunity to avoid a crime, as you would in defending yourself. They operate after the threat is over and the crime has been committed, and are charged with finding guilt or innocence and setting punishment. Just as you, in the threat of the moment, do not have time to weigh and consider, juries do not have the option of taking instant action. This does not make them “pussified” any more than blasting away at a threatening intruder makes you an unthinking conscienceless killer.

By kerry

September 25, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

Reportedly the cost of getting rid (executing)of the OKC bomber was nearly 80 million and he waived his appeals!

By Bubba

September 25, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Well, I see tftt is on his prison break now, typing away. I guess his bunkmate is out rounding up some customers for tftt to bend over in the prison cell for.

By DEATH to snivelling MoRoN rod

September 25, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

However, if the defendent is a liberal, I say hang him high.

BEST POST SO FAR - along with Tex12’s.

I am now calling my lawyer on speed dial to sue the ajc and snivelling MoRoN rod for such bone chilling paranoid instilling fear inducing death threats/wishes. No one has any idea just how terrified and skeered I am at such credible and specific death threats!!! I am building a TWO STORY nuclear bunker to protect myself!!

Better still lets treat the bloated flatulating Oedipus complexed uglyfeckpigfoetus snivelling MoRoN rod the way the brave Apaches or Commanchees would have. First Moron rod is staked staked out for a week over a red fire ant anthill… then slowly roasted over night over a burning fire while we pop some corn and sing Death to ALL Liberals whilst watching Zulu and the Rambo trilogy, then its roasted puffy, ant eaten rancid smouldering tree trunk legs are tied to two neighbouring trees and, after soberly singing God BLess America we cut the rope to split this punkarsed COCKroach puss filled cut and run leftist filth in half!!!

NOW THAT’S ENTERTAINMENT!!

By Cassie

September 25, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

The Economist did an excellent series of articles recently about how the death penalty and indeed executions are LESS of a deterrant than life in prison. Why? Because most people who get the death penalty know that they will spend the rest of their life appealing and otherwise tying up the process and prolonging what should be a simple process.

That being said, I have a pretty clear cut guideline for when someone should go to the chair:

Go directly to Jail: Do Not Pass Go: Do Not Collect $200.

If you fall outside those criteria, I personally am willing to be a little more lenient.

By Bubba bum bandit buttock bouncing bum boy

September 25, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

poor old queeralicious peeping tom

YET AGAIN it preDICKtably pukes up its Bwarney Fwank queeralicious hate as if its some sick and twisted far left VT based child rapist!!

huge Anally Injected Death Sentence smirk

By Apologizing 4 Wooten

September 25, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Wooten makes a logical error in paragraph two. Anyone notice? Of course not, reading comprehension is as arbitrary as Wooten’s death penalty. (Hint: If only those who deserve death dont suffer it, than that is not arbitrary, but contrived).

You peoples dont read good. Wooten dont writes 2 good. Look at this one: “Yes, a system that spares him while executing anybody is a system in need of repair.” How did this guy pass any journalism class? How? Where was the supervision?

Then there’s this: “…rationalizing the brutality as warranting no more than life without parole.” Who wants to diagram THAT sentence?

If the pen is mightier than the sword, then I’ll get to the (ball)point and inscribe over his scribbled cross(words) “the king of the news”…….

By time for the harsh self protecting truth

September 25, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

A SUPERB new book by the visionary Heather MacDonald et al is a must read for patriotic Americans sick and tired of the unremitting invasion by grasping/criminal illegal leeches!!

Amazon Book Description:

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By getalife

September 25, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

Watching Webb on C-Span 2 bashing the amendment for another pre-emptive war with Iran.

We are this close to WWIII.

Now that is a real outrage.

By Rod

September 25, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

I notice tftt at 11:30, didn’t deny his prison term!

By snivelling congenital MoRoN rod

September 25, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

I notice @ 12.08 that snivelling MoRoN rod didn’t deny being a

bloated flatulating Oedipus complexed uglyfeckpigfoetus punkarsed COCKroach puss filled cut and run leftist [POS] filth

with puffy, ant eaten rancid smouldering tree trunk legs

By Columbia al Qaeda University

September 25, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Go ahead Columbia, invite al Qaeda to speak - or Osama himself for that matter next time. Why stop now? Maybe you can dig up some old nazis too; USSR gulag runners; some Pol Pot chiefs; and others that the UN remains deafeningly silent on.

Now the Iranians slam Americans for the way they treated their president. Waaaaah.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RSIK983&show_article=1

Poor babies. Maybe if they kept their bearded monkey in their own back yard, they wouldn’t have to hear or see it. But we have liberal monkeys here as well as in Venezuela, so that’s why he keeps escaping his cage - he’s looking for some action - action only liberals can give him - you know, his country’s women being the most free on the planet and all that.

Phbthbthbthbtbth

By TJ

September 25, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

It never gets old to hear a conservative be FOR the death penalty, but AGAINST abortion. One deals with a fully-developed human being who may or may not be wrongfully convicted, while the other deals with an fetus. Even if you believe the fetus is fully living, it’s still a contradictory stance.

By Hispanics are Kicking BlackAss in LA

September 25, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

Illegals are waging gang warfare against Blacks in LA, a prelude to the future of America if we do not stop illegal immigration by third world hispanics. Once the hispanic gangs have a taste of victory in their war against Black Americans in LA, who will they set their sites on? Asians? Whites? YOU CAN THANK THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, DEMOCRATES LIKE TED KENNEDY AND THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH FOR THIS CIVIL WAR THAT WILL RAGE FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

By Craig

September 25, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

You’re in law enforcement, Tex 12? Yeah right. Maybe a night guard at a 7-11…

By Ahmadenejad For Dem Veep Ticket!

September 25, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

Why the hell not, he sounded more like a Democrat than Hillary, and right up there with Obama.

By union goon

September 25, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

A self fulfilling prophecy: GM union goons [democrats btw] going on strike for job security issues causing a shut down of 12,000 vehicles per day. It could cost GM billions.

Makes sense, don’t it?

By GreyGayGeek

September 25, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

TJ @ 12:17 Yeah, it’s always amusing to see a right-winger claim that a small clump of non-differentiated cells are somehow more precious than a fully-formed, breathing human being.

By jm

September 25, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

union goon@12:30 - about as much sense as the package Robert nardelli got from HomeDepot, even though the stock price tanked on his watch.

By Jack

September 25, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

If guilt is certain as in the Brian Nichols case, punishment should be swift and severe. God takes over when we leave Earth, send him to meet his maker.

By ConservativeDem

September 25, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

I do not believe the death penalty deters crime. However, I do believe that certain crimes the death penalty is the correct punishment. There are people who are evil and will always be evil even to the standards of the most liberal convictions. What I have the most problem with is the jury selection process.

Our community had a group of people come from Pennsylvania murdered an entire family. The powers at hand decided that a fair trial was not possible down south. The case went elsewhere. One person was executed a lifetime later and the others, well I forgot what happened.

Juries are made up of our peers! WRONG!! That process has been so diluted that jury selection determines the innocence or guilt without hearing evidence. Make the jury process like our forefathers intended and we will get executions when evil people do evil things.

By white is beautiful - better than black or brown - and here's the PROOF!!!

September 25, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

SO … WHITE IS TRULY BEAUTIFUL!!

Not the ugliness of black or brown … something we’ve ALL ALWAYS known!!!

LMFAO!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_ news/magazine/7010885.stm

By TEX 12

September 25, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

Shar,

I’m assuming by your name you are a woman. I’ve have no problem with the procedures you have described being followed by a female or the elderly or young of either gender. But for a 30 year-old healthy male, who is charged with the protection of his family, to sit idle, is, to me, unacceptable. Before being in law enforcement, i would always check out suspicious noises/sounds on my own, as most with any testerone would. Either way, i’m going to come to secure a loction, no matter who is calling. But I wonder what sort of man is too scard to confront a threat in his own home and hope someone arrives in time to save him and his family.

P.s. do you want to no know about the mother who left her two kids in a house with an intruder, and didn’t bother to check in on them, even after we arrived and secured her house?

By Hey TJ

September 25, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Unborns are a chance to get it right the second time around.

First time around the make my day worth living dems screwed up big time. What’s old is new and what’s new is old.

By WHITE IS BEAUTIFUL - SOTHE BROWNS ARE LIGHTENING UP ... too freaking funny!!!

September 25, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

We skipped the light fandango turned cartwheels ‘cross the floor I was feeling kinda seasick but the crowd called out for more The room was humming harder as the ceiling flew away When we called out for another drink the waiter brought a tray

And so it was that later as the miller told his tale that her face, at first just ghostly,

TURNED A WHITER SHADE OF PALE!!!

One of Bollywood’s biggest film stars is being criticised by Asian campaigners for promoting a skin-lightening cream - a product that is now on the shelves of British shops. The 40-second advertisement from India starts like so many others promoting razors or hair dye - but it’s an ad with a very big difference.

There’s a man who has no luck with the girls. He has markedly darker skin than his friends and the girl he is after. In a real song-and-dance Bollywood extravaganza, one of the biggest heart throbs of Indian cinema, Shahrukh Khan, hands over a cream to the hapless chap, along with some mild admonishment.

Within a few weeks, the young man has turned much lighter-skinned and confident. As he strides down the road like a modern-day answer to John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever, the girls start flocking to him and chanting: “Hi handsome, hi handsome.” Khan comes back into view with the product, Fair and Handsome.

The skin-lightening cream for men, along with its more feminine counterparts, has found its way into Asian supermarkets and stores in the UK.

While Khan’s advert has not been shown yet in the UK, it too has made its way to British consumers via YouTube. And the product’s success or failure in the British market place may say something about the nature of beauty and the politics of race.

as usual the despicable leftist Guardianistas at the vile pandering BBC sneer and racebait about asians finally seeing just what works best for them in life!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7010885.stm

By GOD OF WAR

September 25, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

Lets get it clear.. Kill the SOB’s.. Just make sure we have done due diligence and then drop em in some hot chicken grease.. Eye for an EYE if you ask me.. Give them death the same way they took someones life.. Firing squad, Metal pipe, knife whatever the method was is what it should be.. Good day!!

By deegee

September 25, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

The death penalty should be used only when a person convicted of a heinous crime admits guilt, denies remorse and indicates that they would do it again given the chance. Outside of that, life without parole. We have seen time and again instances where an individual’s fate in the justice system is determined by their wealth or lack thereof. It’s not a perfect system. Jurors are influenced by TV drama and expect trials to unfold the way they do on TV. I have read too many sick rantings on blogs to believe that it’s possible to get a fair and impartial jury in this day and age.

By Apologizing 4 Wooten

September 25, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

Okay, here’s a sentence quiz. Read Wooten’s last three sentences. Tell me why it’s a disgrace. (hint: it’s not the hacked puncuation)

Anybody. (redeem yourself here)

Then, if you pass this test, you may proceed to part two, as it will appear after I shave. (camera to me pretending not to be lathering my balls)

By Aaron

September 25, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

democrat jurors in Clayton, DeKalb & Fulton county want to redistribute more of the taxpayers money to incarcerate their own? Is this a surprise to anyone?

By todd73

September 25, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

“It never gets old to hear a conservative be FOR the death penalty, but AGAINST abortion.”

Reverse logic for TJ -> it never gets old to hear liberals be FOR murdering an innocent baby, but AGAINST ending the life of a guilty murderer.

By sunshine

September 25, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

Life in Prison is the worst punishment.. not death.

By sunshine

September 25, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Life in Prison is the worst punishment.. not death.

By GOD OF WAR

September 25, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

President Bush better not debate Ahmadinejad because he would run circles around him.. Not that that would be hard to do.. That guy is no dummy. Hate him or not again he is no dummy. The nedia chose to talk about his homo comment and missed all the other commentary. Read the transcripts.

By GreyGayGeek

September 25, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

todd73 @ 1:23 - That is the best you can do? A variation of “I know you are, but what am I”? Is this Wooten’s blog, or Pee-Wee’s Playhouse?

By Jack

September 25, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

JK & Sunshine have good points but I would only agree if the prisons were like in the movie “Papillion or “The Count of Monte Cristo”. Our prisons are too soft. These prisoners can eat drink, work out, watch TV and have sex. Their victims cannot. They should be afforded NO luxury at all.

By deegee

September 25, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

Maybe the reason that criminals are able to eat, drink and watch TV is to keep their mind off of killing and eating prison guards.

By getalife

September 25, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

The Moveon ad was a success

Hahahaha.

Losers.

By lets experiment on moveyourbowels.org

September 25, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

Life in Prison is the worst punishment.. not death.

OK … for a decent sized “control” group lets IMMEDIATELY round exactly a million treasonous worthless hate America members of moveyourbowels.org … we very swiftly execute half of them and put the other half in prison for life with no parole … then in 30 years or so we see how the treasonous moveyourbowels.org scum left in jail feel about it!!

WORKS BRILLIANTLY FOR ME I HAVE TO SAY!!!

By Curious Observer

September 25, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

While we’re reforming the sentencing, let’s reform jury selection as well. To be selected for a jury, one apparently has to be abysmally ignorant—those with IQs above 70 need not apply. Witness the movement of the trial of the accused murderer of two Cobb County realtors in Cobb County to Savannah because “publicity” made it impossible to select an unbiased jury.

What—it’s impossible to be unbiased merely because one has read newspaper accounts of the murder and the subsequent arrest of the accused?

May God save me from the intellectual disgrace of being selected to serve on a jury! I might be hopelessly biased by virtue of my effort to stay informed. We need ignorant people to make the important decisions! I suppose it works in politics, so why not in criminal justice?

By deport all sick and twisted anglo-haters NOW

September 25, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

to keep their mind off of killing and eating prison guards

see what a sick anglo-hatingbitch heebeedeegee is folks… the archetypal posterturd for Heather MacDonalds marvellous new book on illegal leeches if there ever was one!!

By deegee

September 25, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

Gee, how do you follow this act?

“Bush, at the UN, announces new Myanmar sanctions.

President George W. Bush announced Tuesday that the United States was taking a series of steps to tighten economic sanctions on Myanmar’s leaders and their backers and would impose a visa ban on the leaders and their families.”

We’re outraged by what????

“Americans are outraged by the situation in Burma where a military junta has imposed a 19-year reign of fear,” Bush said, using the former name of the country.”

By Live and Let Die

September 25, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

I agree with Sunshine. Life in an 10x6 cell is way worse than death. All suffering, pain, and psychological emotions stop at death. It must be great to witness murderers go insane over time.

GOD OF WAR 1:27 - Hitler was ‘smart’ too, along with Charles Manson. Why don’t you just go apply for Iranian citizenship and tell us how you like it in about a year by raising your one remaining hand at the US Embassy. Oh wait, you can’t do that. We lost our US Embassy there when Jimmy Carter was president.

JM 12:39 - I’m as upset about Home Depot’s failed CEO as the next guy, but don’t take his exit compensation up with him. Take it up with the board who approved of his salary, benefits, and parting gifts in a legally binding compensation package that was singed long before the stock began tanking under his watch. A CEO does not make up nor does he control his own package. It gets voted on and approved by the board of directors. But I’m sure you already knew that.

By time for the witty harsh truth

September 25, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

We need ignorant people to make the important decisions! I suppose it works in politics

that’s why the treasonous cut and run scum are venally running the do NOTHING congress now!!

well done peeping tom - an almost inadverrrrrrtennnt slam against the demoNcrats … (lyke my spelllling dickweed??)

By N GA BOB

September 25, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

PUNISHMENT SHOULD FIT THE CRIME!!!!!!!! mURDERS SHOULD BE BEHEADED AND SHOWN LIVE ON TV. I’M NOT A MEAN PERSON JUST ONE THAT SICK OF ALL THE DO-GOODERS AND ISSUING GET OUT OF JAIL CARDS. JAIL TERMS ARE A JOKE TO MOST OF THESE CRIMINALS. THEY HAVE MORE FREE BENEFITS THAN MOST OF US. MY MORE MODERATE VIEW WOULD BE TO BRING BACK THE ROAD CHAIN-GANGS. NONE OF THIS WATCHING PLASMA TVS, USING THE BEST EXERCISE EQUIPMENT, USING THE BEST LIBRARIES AVAILABLE TO CREATE ENLESS APPEALS, ETC.

By getalife

September 25, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

In op-ed pieces, interviews and TV ads, more than 20 retired U.S. generals have broken ranks with the culture of salute and keep it in the family. Instead, they are criticizing the commander in chief and other top civilian leaders who led the nation into what the generals believe is a misbegotten and tragic war.

Move on.

By Tell the TRUTH!!

September 25, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

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By Mark

September 25, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

Death penalty to : Murders Armed robbery Child molestation Kidnapping Harming/kill cops Home invasion Assault rape Simple theives should have their hands chopped off.

By Apologizing 4 Wooten

September 25, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

The death penalty can never be a deus ex machina for the grieving process of the victim’s family.

Court TV lobbies for the death penalty, because imagine the ratings eulo-tubing that!

By Dusty

September 25, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Tell the TRUTH and others with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder,2:25

Please control yourself. Your repetetive behavior is simply pathological. Get help!!

By Tell the TRUTH!!

September 25, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Well, Dusty, why don’t you answer the question. Or else admit BUSH LIED and defrauded the country, and get it over with?!?!

Where are the Weapons of Mass Destruction?

Where are the Weapons of Mass Destruction?

Where are the Weapons of Mass Destruction?

Where are the Weapons of Mass Destruction?

Where are the Weapons of Mass Destruction?

Where are the Weapons of Mass Destruction?

By Redneck Convert

September 25, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

Well, I finally got my lunch break and it sure don’t look like TFTT got any treatment. He’s already ranted 3 or 4 times. I got to hand it to him though. He could bring Those People and the Mexicans into a blog about a math problem. I sure hope he don’t go downtown and start ranting and get beat to a pulp.

I was real disappointed Sister Dusty and this Captain guy didn’t make the meeting at the Church of Holiness. We got a humdinger of a revival planned. And one of the preachers will be the Revrend Jim Bob Buice! Yep, he got sprung yesterday. He says he will be there if we can figure a way to keep the kids out. His parole says he can’t be around kids no more.

Anyway, I hope everybody on this blog will be there to get saved. And if anybody needs saving, it’s TFTT and jbmlaw. And maybe Sister Dusty could use a brush-up. She’s been crying liar-liar alot lately and acting a little unChristian. Anyway, I’ll let you all know more about the revival when the time gets closer.

By RCH

September 25, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

* Tell the TRUTH* Try the freedom of information act. NSA photos taken on the border of Syria and Iraq just before the war. Large pits dug and then covered a few days after the war began. Several top Iraq officers have stated that the weapons were moved and disposed of by Iraq and Russian troops. There are a few theories why this happened. Do some research.

By time for inbred rednekk to crash its beer lorry FOR REAL!!

September 25, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

the racist yanKKKee sickster inbred rednekkk needs to stick to its fiery cross workshops and leave the actual real world politics to clear thinking right of centre adults who understand the corrosive insidiousness of the hate whitey black/illegal leech racebaiting and racial spoils crowd lies!!

FABULOUS to see the hippety hop human scum Vick at long last being charged by the local authorities in VA. Hopefully he’ll get an extra five years - AND NOT CONCURRENT with his impending federal time!!

By @@

September 25, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

Southern Democrat @ 9:55 & 11:13:

Lex talionis an expanded interpretation. I’ve only sat on one jury where the death penalty was under consideration. While being polled they asked the question “Do you favor the death penalty?” My answer was “Not quite.” “But I’m working on reconciling it within my beliefs. Now onto your following post:

You clearly do not remember who appointed Stevens. Or Souter for that matter.

You’re right, I don’t. I was just a kid. Only with Gerald Ford’s recent passing did I come to realize it was he that appointed Stevens. Ford seemed like a nice guy but not particularly partisan.

Heck, after having to deal with Nixon, Agnew and Justice Douglas; good-hearted but not too politically ambitious Ford thought he’d give liberal Justice Stevens a chance but it doesn’t make Justice Stevens any less liberal.

People change SD, with the passing of time, conservatives often become more liberal and sometimes liberals become more conservative. I fall into the latter category. I’m facing temptation to move further to the right while Justice Stevens seems to find the liberal left quite comfortable.

The continued efforts by the liberals here who want to label me a right-wing extremist are doing a heckuva job shoving me along the right path.

They’re freakin’ strange.

By Dusty

September 25, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

ah Redneck,2:53

Crying “liar liar” to liars like you is not a LIE. It is the truth, the whole truth, and nuthin’ but the truth. So help you, RedNeck. And you need all the help you can get.

By @@

September 25, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Just in case Southern Democrat drops in late which would be unusual. Something else to piggyback onto Justice Stevens’ displaced compassion for the enemy Yamamoto.

If you’ve been watching PBS, their airing “The War” a wonderful tribute to U.S. war veterans. It’s very moving and extremely humbling, but this is what Alessandra Stanley had to say in her NYT review.

*“The War” gives generous voice to a wide variety of remarkable people, but they are all American voices. Mr. Burns delivers almost everything viewers care to know about wartime America; it’s also telling that this is the only tale he wants to tell.

I guess that taking national pride in defeating Japan and Germany just isn’t enough to satisfy her tender sensibilities.

Freakin’ weird.

By No Laughing Matter

September 25, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

Not too politically ambitious President Ford ran for President again in 1976 and tried to force his way onto the Reagan ticket as co-president in 1980. Sounds plenty ambitious to me.

By @@

September 25, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

Alright, I’m catching up here.

I’d go for life in prison under the most austere setting with Joe Arpaio taking on the ACLU when they claim inhumane treatment of inmates.

Sheriff Joe meets the ACLU halfway and the inmates still suffer for their crimes, as they should.

By getalife

September 25, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

This vote is the start of war with Iran

By Joe Mama

September 25, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

The life w/o parole option should be taken off the table early in a case of cold-blooded murder (or other case which can carry the death penalty). What a bunch of loser jurors. Civic duty my azz, they let down the public and the common good.

IF CRIMINALS DON’T FEAR THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, WHAT IS TO STOP THEM FROM WORRYING ABOUT GETTING CAUGHT AND BEING PUT TO DEATH?

Fear must be injected into the criminals mind. Even if they are too stupid, drugged-up, or just dont care to realize it. This country and our jails are already becoming over-populated, so why should we keep these worthless human beings around?

Sure, their mama will be screaming the whole time “my little boy is innocent! he’s really a great person! he didn’t mean to stuff those 3 babies into a microwave and set it on HI for an hour! he was just trying to keep them warm! he would never hurt anybody, i cant believe he’d stab his ex-girlfriend 62 times!” — but the sad fact is that the fiscal responsibility of the state and fed gov’ts to feed and house these worthless pukes is just too much. Put them to death, even though I say it with a heavy heart due to a personal connection with this situation.

3 square meals a day and a warm, dry place to live is not so bad for some thugs, so life behind bars can’t be so bad considering they can get drugs, sex, violence, rest, and possibly visits. So what’s to stop these criminals, when it might be better than their life on the outside?

Bring back public executions… folks see this sort of stuff on pay-per-view and everyone wins. It sends the strongest message possible, and generates revenue for the Dept of Corrections!

People pay a lot of money to watch UFC matches, and no one dies in the end. Imagine if you get to watch The Death Channel, all scumbags getting killed, all the time.

By Curious Observer

September 25, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

The decision to shoot down Yamamoto’s plane was a necessarily cold, calculated act. US military officials determined that Yamomoto alone had the value of two Japanese aircraft carriers—he was that good at warfare. The US had cracked the coded message that revealed Yamamoto’s itinerary. Sending the fighters to shoot down the plane over that island had little to do with seeking revenge; rather, it was an objective decision made to deprive Japan of its most valuable human asset. Any other nation fighting for its existence would have made the same decision.

By Dusty

September 25, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

@@,3:39

I watched “The War” last night. It was impressive. Our troops gave so much and it looked like every American was right behind them doing all they could to support them in every way.

Watching those “Flying Fortresses” drop like paper planes out of the sky when they were hit and flaming was still heart breaking, even now.

Burns did a great documentary. It did look like every American was giving full support for the war effort. And it helped win WWII.

If only………

By blurb-o-mat

September 25, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Want to be outraged? Look at this:

http://www.jailmail.net/adunniganga.htm

By jm

September 25, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

Well, Dusty, maybe if Iraq had attacked us in the same way as Japan, W the incompetent would have more support. To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, when you decide to launch a war of choice: “you go to war with the support you have, not the support you would like to have”.

I have not sat down to watch Mr. Burns show yet but I wonder how much time he dedicates to the antiwar movement that was prevalent prior to Pearl Harbor (people like that rabid anti-american Charles Lindberg or Father Coughlin).

By AmVet

September 25, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

If only………

We had another FDR…

By I Hate The Poor

September 25, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

Oh, who CARES if some piece of trash can’t afford decent legal representation? Poor people are dirty, lazy filthy scum & deserve to die (yes I’m for real)

By Craig

September 25, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

I know we’ve been over this before Dusty, but what have you sacrificed to support the current war?

By Osama Bin Laden

September 25, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

Good evening, ladies, gentlemen, and germs!

By @@

September 25, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this

I know Dusty, it brought tears to my eyes as well. Seeing those aged veterans recalling the pride in their accomplishments; welcoming the gratitude of the French citizens in that small town where they had to retreat leaving the German’s to burn and slaughter.

They teared up and it set me to blubbering.

I really don’t know what’s happened to unquestioning patriotism.

Craig:

Dusty has temporarily sacrificed a husband and sons to the military. Are you disappointed that they survived or something?

Try to work through it for crying out loud.

By Facts

September 25, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

Mr Burns, on THE WAR, at least the first two episodes aired so far, makes no mention of any pre-WWII anti-war movement.

It is actually told from the point of view of four cities, Waterbury, CT, Mobile, AL, Sacramento, CA(and surrounding agricultural communities) and some town in MN, Luverne, MN. People from there who served, and people there who saw what happened locally.

By LaughoftheWeek

September 25, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

so Dusty can compare WWII to our current Iraqi fiasco?

and it is only Tuesday for LOTW.

By Dusty

September 26, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this

Laugh of the Week from yesterday,

Use your real name, Ahmadinejad!! We know you’re out there.

By Craig

September 26, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

of course not, @@, what an obnoxious thing to say. I’m glad they’re safe. My cousin lost a child while serving in the military - I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.

But I am sick to death of people sitting at a radio microphone or a computer terminal, yakking on about how wonderful Bush is and how brave the Republicans are, when they are unwilling to put any personal skin in the game - instead they want my children to pay for the war, and other people’s children to go and fight and die.

By Analchord

September 26, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

You know, this blog has been myspaced to hell in a hand basket, nobody even reads wooten’s blog, or if they do, they dont appreciate it. They glance at it and make one or two non sequitur comments and then start myspacing like this is a chatroom for truants.

Even then, they only hack other’s material from other blogs or from movies or television. Not one original thought. You could read this blog’s archives and go back a whole year and randomly pick out comments and they would read the same as the ones not yet posted today. Fact. Every blog ends up this way, that’s why people move on dot org to other new blogs until they, too, get ruined by the trolls.

Is there one person who doesn’t hate trolls? Even Osama Bin Laden, in his last video, mentioned how annoying the AL Jazeera blog, “Kaboom”, has become. “Kaboom” is a suicide bomber’s blog where the jihadist is supposed to write his last thoughts about allah. But trolls have taken over the whole thing so that important comments get wasted, and the jihad suffers. Like yesterday, some troll was talkin’ bout how his 72 virgins shave their P’s. I mean, what the hell? What is wrong with people?

I urge, no, I beg Jim Wooten to ban the trolls, and make a new rule that only on topic posts, that mention the subject matter at hand, be allowed.

‘muff said

By Jim Wooten

September 26, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this

Analchord @ 8:45: I’m getting awfully close to your thinking on trolls. They are getting to be a real distraction.

By Not jblaw

September 27, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

I think this is your worst column yet. As a former prosecutor, I’ve prosecuted people I’d have been willing to flip the switch on myself, so I assure you there’s no squeamishness here. However, for every outrage you present showing a monster who deserved the death penalty, there is an outrage on the opposite side of the argument. The death penalty, apart from what anyone deserves, is a poor policy. It’s too expensive, not effective as a deterrent, and not foolproof. The government’s not supposed to be in the revenge business. People rarely get what they deserve, in the criminal justice system or out of it. Why do you put so much faith in the government to get such a monumentally complicated task correct? Real common sense conservatism would take into account the dollars and cents. This is just bloodlust. A public commentator should aspire to more.

By Itsabouttime

September 29, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

Too many people getting life who deserve the death penalty. Our society deserves criminals running around robbing, killing, etc. because they are too wimpy to deal with the death penalty in cases that blatantly deserve for the death penalty to be imposed.

By Don Eyemus

October 1, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Lefties kill me. They say since people who kill blacks do not get the death penalty it is racially biased. Hell thats because black juries (where most of the cases of blacks being killed occur)refuse to give black men death sentences. Dont try to run your left wing garbage. It dont compute.