Thinking Right

By @@

September 19, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

Well Jim, until recently I would have said “shame on them”, but my opinion is changing.

It’s difficult to figure out what African Americans expect from their politicians. Michael Steele…black Republican Oreo?

Barack Obama, black Democrat…ain’t black enough?

Holy moley!!! What’s wrong with being Americans together? I’m just not feeling the pain anymore…

By Political Foreskin

September 19, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

If Wooten has his ear to the ground, then he’ll be the first to hear the rumblings of social revolution as the corporate puppets in the GOP try to string along the voters and make the left’s most succinct points about the isolated ruling class.

Thompson should jump at this, he’ll have a Smiley monopoly, a national stage, and his hutzpah alone will give him a poll pop, and let the country see him, warts and all. At least we’ll know he’s real.

By Aquagirl

September 19, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

Who died and left Travis Smiley in charge of African-Americans?

Now if the Repubs had turned down an Oprah debate, it would be a different story. They’d never be that stupid, though.

By Captain Freedom

September 19, 2007 8:44 AM | Link to this

THE Captain wishes to remind everyone that We of True Belief have our own dark hued standard bearer, a Common Sense Conservative named Alan Keyes. If the liberal media did not ignore this good man’s campaign, more of Those People would realize that We are offering them one of their own. Given his strong showing against the much lighter-hued Barack SADDAM Obama (just like Osama, but with a “B”) in the last Senate campaign, THE Captain believs that Mr Keyes could push the GOP black support almost into double-digits.

Keyes for President. It’s the Right Thing to do.

And on a personal note: Everyone lay off Dusty today. She’s not the brightest porch light on the block, but the way everyone beat her down yesterday and made her cry and run away was just beyond the pale. And the Terri Schiavo crack, while arguably having some merit, was just tacky.

THE Captain has spoken. Chivalry is not dead.

By Political Foreskin

September 19, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

Moveon.org has just recommended a new General for the Iraq War….. Barrabas!

By Political Foreskin

September 19, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

Moveon’s pick of General Barrabus to run the Iraq War is a good choice. First, we get to crucify christ in the holy land and imagine how THAT will assuage the Islamist hoards. Why, we’ll have peace till easter, then they’ll be shouting and forget it…..

By Redneck Convert

September 19, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

Well, if the Republican canadates start buttering up Those People, they won’t be Republicans no more. They all should just smile real polite and then ignore Those People and cut Peach Care and make them show photo ID and such. The way we all do now. All Those People want is to get their hands on the wallets of hard working taxpayers like me and lay around and collect welfare.

I use to be a Democrat because everybody knowed the Republicans were the ones that invaded the South back in the civil war and put Those People in office and such. So everybody I knowed voted Democrat because they were the ones that backed the Klan and made sure us good Christian white people had the upper hand. Even that Northrener Democrat Sen. Robert C. Byrd joined the Klan. Here in GA you couldn’t hardly find a Republican in office except maybe dog catcher when no Democrat wanted it.

Then the Democrats went all crazy on us and started passing the civil rights laws and going against the South and making laws that wouldn’t let us keep Those People from voting and such. For a while old Strom tried to make up a new party of us god-fearing Democrats and later old George Wallace tried to run for president, but it didn’t catch on.

So we finally decided the Republicans were our friends now. To make a long story short pretty soon the whole South was voting Republican because the Republicans were the party of good white Christian conservatives. Even old Zell turned against the Democrats because of their race-mixing and such. We got good white Christian Republicans like old Saxby and Sonny and Johnny. We was forced to give Those People a couple seats in Congress because of a bunch of unfair Democrat laws, but we all got to be right comfortable voting Republican.

So I won’t vote for no Republican canadate that shows up to try to butter up Those People. I say hooray for the canadates that refused to do it. They are my kind of people.

Anyway, I know the good white Christian conservatives like jbmlaw and tftt and Sister Dusty and @@ and Van and RCH will agree with me. Though they will go thru some polite spiel about how its about small guvmint and low taxes and such. Anyway, we all know why they vote Republican along with us rednecks, and its for the same reason. They just been shamed into not saying why. Truth is, I have less hate for Those People than they do.

That’s my opinion and it’s very true. Anyway, I was right sorry to see people picking on Sister Dusty yesterday. I hope we can all remember our good Southren manners better today. You could see poor Sister Dusty was getting all flustered and kind of sputtering. It ain’t nice to treat a lady that way.

By Confucious Says

September 19, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

Confucious say to the good Captain that when Dusty comes on with her faux conservatism and faux patriotism, she who sounds like a Limbaugh parrot and the Bushnik Lemming shall suffer a beatdown each and every time.

By Jeff

September 19, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this

Well, since Dr. Paul is the only TRULY conservative candidate, it can NOT be said that conservatives are ignoring this debate. Only RINOs.

Now, about this “republicans don’t care about ‘our’ issues” that blacks try to throw out:

You’re right. They don’t care about YOUR issues. They care about EVERYONE’S issues. If you could get your head out of you own stinking azz long enough to realize that Big Government - which you traditionally LOVE - will only lead to the ruination of us ALL, you might see that. Unfortunately, you’re too racist to see it, and to dad-blasted full of yourselves to admit that you are blinded by your own hatred. The racism in the BLACK community of 2007 is FAR WORSE that it EVER was in the white community.

You’re either AMERICAN, or NOT. There ARE NO HYPENS!!!

By jbmlaw

September 19, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I am manifestly unqualified to lecture African-Americans on what “their” concerns are or ought to be. Similarly I am not qualified to similarly lecture Arab-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, American Indians (aka Indigenous Americans), or any other artificially collectivized entity. I think only as an American. Surely Travis Smiley would agree that, “No one should be elected president of this country in 2008 if they ignore conservatives,” said Smiley. “”If they want to be president of all America they need to speak to all Americans.”

Of course, collectivization is the way democrats think. To steal the funniest paragraph I have read in the recent past, however: “I don’t feel no ways tired. I come too far from where I started from. Nobody told me that the road would be easy. I don’t believe He brought me this far,” drawled presidential aspirant Hillary Clinton, mimicking black voice to a black audience, at the First Baptist Church of Selma, Alabama. I’m wondering if Mrs. Clinton visits an Indian reservation she might cozy up to them saying, “How! Me not tired. Me come heap long way. Road mighty rough. Sky Spirit no bring me this far.” Or, seeking the Asian vote she might say, “I no wray tired. Come too far I started flum. Road berry clooked. Number one Dragon King take me far.” http://www.townhall.com/columnists/WalterEWilliams/2007/09/12/insulting_blacks (there is an underscore between the last two words of the URL). Dr. Williams has little use for those who pander.

My guess is that African-Americans may would find a party attractive if it opposes death taxes, strongly opposes legal race-restrictions, does not permit government to marginalize people of faith, and works to make communities safer. Such policies need not be unique to a single party, but, of course, they are.

By jbmlaw

September 19, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

Apologies for sloppy draftsmanship. The second “similarly” should have been “so.”

By Political Foreskin

September 19, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this

Great bit, jbm!

By Dusty

September 19, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

Well good morning. It is bright and early.

OH, is Captain out of bed already this morning? I thought his keeper let him sleep late mornings. Ah well, as he said,”Chivalry is not quite dead.”, i.e. just like the Captain. But congrats, Cappy, you have made it to another day.

Alan Keyes??? I don’t care what color he is. I don’t know much about him except he is considered exceptionally smart (unlike his mentor, the Cap’n). Also, he is most likely a libertarian, as these wise and mostly unknown candidates turn out to be just that. But I don’t vote for those who “sit on the fence”, proposing cut backs on most everything as a cure for all ailments. (Sorry, jbmlaw. You are not typical.)

So, with a happy salute to our hard working president of today, I move on to greater things for the moment. Remember now, keep your flag right side up.

By jbmlaw

September 19, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

Thanks, PoFo - high praise from a master indeed.

By YouGottaBeKiddin

September 19, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

By Jeff

September 19, 2007 9:05 AM | If you could get your head out of you own stinking azz long enough to realize that Big Government - which you traditionally LOVE - will only lead to the ruination of us ALL, you might see that.

Jeff, just how much dumber can you get. Just how far up your patoot can your head be? Obviously you have been out of the country or something the past 6 years when you fail to see that these nuevo repubs, neo-cons or whatever the hell this hybrid version of the party is that the republicans ARE the party of big government now. GWB has presided over the largest expansion of government in our modern history. We have the most bloated and ineffective beuracracy that I have seen in my 55 years on this earth. Furthermore, when 70% of our 9 trillion dollar deficit comes from the Reagan, Bush I, and GWB administrations, don’t even try to call these guys the small government party. Can you say Department of Homeland Security nimrod? The biggest, most bloated, and ineffective boondoggle in our history Jeff. Jeez! You need to get some new talking points or better educate yourself or something. Party of small government my azz.

By jbmlaw

September 19, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Dusty, no offense taken. Also, PoFo, to return the compliment, I thought the 8:57 Barrabas bit was clever – has much potential.

By Jeff

September 19, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

YGBK:

Notice that before that, I said that the only TRULY conservative candidate was Dr. Ron Paul. All others are pro-Big Government, and even the ones that claim to be “Republican” are truly RINO.

Dr. Paul is the ONLY true conservative running for President.

By jbmlaw

September 19, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

One last note before I temporarily disappear, Dr. Williams publishes an essay today that is relevant to Jim Wooten’s morning essay, “Stupid, Ignorant, or Biased,” http://www.townhall.com/columnists/WalterEWilliams/2007/09/19/stupid,ignorantor_biased (an underscore between each of the final four words). Opening:

President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s closest adviser and architect of the New Deal, Harry Hopkins, advised, “Tax and tax, spend and spend, elect and elect, because the people are too damn dumb to know the difference.” Professor Bryan Caplan, my colleague at George Mason University, sheds some light on Hopkins’ observation in his new book, “The Myth of the Rational Voter: Why Democracies Choose Bad Policies.”

By Political Foreskin

September 19, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

The bit would be a modern day global passion play. We’re all acting out the 12 stations of the cross, or is it 10? Damn it. I always get my murder justifications mixed up. I hate myself. I hate the world. Jail OJ!

By Goldwater Republican

September 19, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw, it is not that people of faith being marginalized that is at issue in the party today. It is the combining of religion and politics that is the problem. Until separation of church and state is once again the hallmark of this government as the founding fathers intended, and this group ceases to push their religious agenda on the rest of the country, of course they will continue to marginalize themselves. They don’t need anyone elses help them to do that.

By Dusty

September 19, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

Well, first RedNeck gives us the put down from his gated kkklavern by the golf course between Chicago and Detroit. Southern, he aint. Best to ignore this repetitious imposter who perpetrates propaganda of hate which is his own opinionated sorry output (supposedly comedy).

Then jbmlaw @ 9:06 comes along and gives us thoughtful and sensible postings. Always good to read your words, jbmlaw.

By Jenn

September 19, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

The GOP front runners won’t be front runners for very long. Of course they do not want to do a debate for black people. They wouldn’t even participate in the Values Voter debates that were just held in Florida that represented Christians. The top 4 candidates do not care about average Americans. Mitt, Rudy, Fred & John feel their eliteness and money will buy them the Presidency. As Americans we should REJECT these people who cannot even bother to debate. I am voting for Huckabee, he takes the time to talk to everyone, even Unions.

By DebbieDoRight

September 19, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

Jeff: The racism in the BLACK community of 2007 is FAR WORSE that it EVER was in the white community. You’re either AMERICAN, or NOT. There ARE NO HYPENS!!!

1) Please. Grow up. 2) When the Italians came out and said they were Italian American no one batted an eye, same for the Chinese, and Irish; but when blacks came out and said they were African American; all hell breaks loose! Why?

@@: It’s difficult to figure out what African Americans expect from their politicians. Michael Steele…black Republican Oreo? Barack Obama, black Democrat…ain’t black enough?

Unfortunately it’s the fringe elements that get the most airplay and the most write ups in newspapers, etc.; (see Jessie, Sharpton, etc). There are just a few people who feel the way that they do about current issues; however when they speak white america think that they speak for every black person in america; which really isn’t the case. But as long as they keep getting the press and the media to record every thing that comes out of their mouths, how can we get them to shut up?

jbmlaw: I’m wondering if Mrs. Clinton visits an Indian reservation she might cozy up to them saying, “How! Me not tired. Me come heap long way. Road mighty rough. Sky Spirit no bring me this far.” Or, seeking the Asian vote she might say, “I no wray tired. Come too far I started flum. Road berry clooked. Number one Dragon King take me far.

LMAO!! I never knew you had a sense of humor!! Imagine that!!

I see the War Monger is up bright and early today; she probably had to get her udders milked.

By GOB

September 19, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

The racism in the BLACK community of 2007 is FAR WORSE that it EVER was in the white community.

And we have a winner for the most absurd comment of the day…

By Political Foreskin

September 19, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

Religion is politics. There is no difference between religion and the socio-cultural underpinnings that created the myths and lifestyles.

We are all living the same religion born from the same insights.

When Christians look at Moslems they are looking in a mirror, doing the Lucille Ball ripoff of early Harpo Marx, in one of the oldest bits, (10k years) in comedy. Viva Vaudeville!

By Jeff

September 19, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

Debbie:

I was actually speaking to ALL “hypenated” Americans, not just black.

GOB:

Excuse me? I’ve LIVED and WORKED in a majority-black area as one of only 3 white people in my place of employement. TRUST me, I KNOW of what I speak.

The area? Randolph County

By Political Foreskin

September 19, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

Who can we crucify? I say Cheney. He’s the one who conspired with General Rumsfeld in refusing to obey attack orders from Commander-in-chief Bush in the summer of 02, when our CIA had trapped OBL and his entire hoard of lunatics in Afghanistan.

Cheney figured the American People for more time. If we had closure so soon after 911, then he couldn’t sell Iraq.

I figured it all out. I’m a geo-political vunderkintershern.

By Captain Freedom

September 19, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

Now, now Jenn, settle down little lady. THE Captain will explain.

First off, you need to support the Godly Alan Keyes. He participated in the Values Voter debates, and was in fine, fine form. He is a True Common Sense Conservative, and to boot, he has that rich Mandingo charm that will counter-balance the sexymojo big sticks of the Smiley-Obama liberals.

In fact, all of the candidates at the Values debate scored a perfect 100% on the questions posed. Even the suspicious Ron Paul came out foursquare in his support for federally funded anti-f******* classes in our public schools. So much for Libertarian orthodoxy! Maybe he’s not such a bad guy after all if he is willing to use government funds to further the White Christian American movement. Even if he is a shill for the Islamoecuminifascists.

But THE Captain is right there with you, Jenn, when it comes to the “big four”. Especially that Frederick of Hollywood guy, with his Gucci shoes and lobbying for abortionists. What has he really done for the good of Our Nation since his landmark role as Uncle Joe in Petticoat Junction?

And don’t even get THE Captain started on Don Vito Giuliani! Dusty will get all worked up over the ‘length of THE Captain’s post’, if you catch my drift. She dragged us into the sewer yesterday, and Myself just can’t bear to have it happen again. Someone needs to protect Dusty from herself.

Keyes for President. It’s the Right Thing to do.

By Political Foreskin

September 19, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

Democrats of Color? (That got passed everyone. This is why I suggest you read Wooten 3 times over and over before you blog. It’s impossible to compete with the same five myspacers who post 90% of the comments on this blog.)

By DebbieDoRight

September 19, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Wooten: This is, I suppose, a chicken-or-egg proposition. Republicans should reach out to black voters year-round — but that’s not the same as saying that they should embrace the Big Government views that attract most black voters to the Democratic Party.

Jim, do you even know your history? (And I say “your” because it’s American history). Blacks started voting Democrat heavily in the 60s because of 1) JFK 2)Dr. King 3) They reached out to them and tried to improve their lot in life, (see Voter Rights, etc) 4)They started to break away from their elitist, racist, dogma and embrace ALL Americans. That “big government” myth you keep trying to pass around as truth is getting old and stale. At least come up with new material.

They do need, however, to be smarter and more aggressive and more consistent in selling conservative policies to Democrats of color. Eventually the single-digit support among blacks will grow.

Jim, oh Jim, sometimes I don’t know if you’re naive or demented. How can that happen, (single-digit support among blacks will grow) when the Republicans keep playing the race card every chance they get? Remember Harold Ford of Tennessee? How about McCain in South Carolina? Do you recall Willie Horton and the Southern Strategy? If you don’t, believe me Black Americans do; and they make sure their children remember too. It’s like the repuglicans will pss on you and then call it rain, and THEN get mad at you because you call it pss!!

So, good luck on that “improving the number of black republicans” dream that you have. You’re gonna need it.

By Political Foreskin

September 19, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

With Iraq stalemated, there’s not going to be anything left of America. China will roll over us, and we’ll be an occupied country, not militarily, but commercially and socially as our Democrats of Poor become Democrats of Homeless and Jobless and we face the same civil strife playing out in Iraq. Once hate takes over, a man be figurin’ he dont need the code, and then it’s over.

A child shall lead them into the melee. (bush)

Who owns the natural resources of a country?

By getalife

September 19, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

The gop will only get the white power vote.

It will be a major “thumpin” in 08.

By Warren

September 19, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Debbie, don’t forget the latest group of people of color that the Republican “base” has alienated. They won’t be forgetting anytime soon as well. And before the racist right declared war on them this group was split fairly evenly between the parties. The republicans either wake up now and start including a more diverse rank and file or get ready to lose alot of elections at every level. And maybe it is the only way for the center right and the moderates to understand that these right wing racists have thrown the rest of the party under the bus because they continue to hang on to this absurd idea they have of continued dominace of our government and it’s institutions by a white anglo-saxo protestant group with their plantation mentality.

By deegee

September 19, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

His name is Tavis Smiley, not Travis Smiley. And who says that republicans don’t pay attention to black America?

By Dusty

September 19, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Well, congratulations,Cappy @ 10:06! You’ve gotten yourself in control and posted only four fairly long paragraphs of minimal importance. Keep up the good work! Your comprehension is getting better, if still a bit muddled (as in #3 postulate). Rehab CAN work wonders.

I will check back later on your progress as I must leave for worthwhile and wonderful work. Yes!!…

By Anonymous

September 19, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

All major candidates speak for one, and only one, constituency: the wealthy-Americans.

The sooner we recognize that, the sooner we can get on to serious discussion of real issues.

By What Can Ya Say

September 19, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

It amazes me that the GOP has been around for 200+ years and in 6 short ones has allowed a relatively small group of people to cut its throat and bleed it out to the point that it holds no relavency any longer. We wil all see the day that the strongest political groups in this country will be Democrats and Independents. The GOP has committed suicide.

By Jeff

September 19, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

WCYS:

The same was said about the Democratic Party in 1980 and 1994, to name a couple.

Things are cyclic. The challenge is to minimize the damage done when your guys are out of power and try to fix it when they are.

The problem is that the Democratic version of “fixing” things means Big Government and LESS freedom, FOR ALL.

By Rock the Establishment

September 19, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

The problem is that the Democratic version of “fixing” things means Big Government and LESS freedom, FOR ALL.

Here comes that “big government” lie again!! Wasn’t it the Republican party, Bush, that came out with the assault on our Civil Liberties? Wire taps, no due process, etc? All they have to do is suspect you’re a terrorist, they don’t even have to prove it, and they can lock you away for years without a trial, a lawyer, or anything.

That’s scary, ask Jose Padilla.

By Political Foreskin

September 19, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

Warren, of which Demographic of Daltonism do you refer, sir?

By getalife

September 19, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

[Updated: MoveOn.org Didn’t Invent BetrayUs- The Troops Did!](http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/18/215826/698

Bwa.

By getalife

September 19, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Updated: MoveOn.org Didn’t Invent BetrayUs- The Troops Did!

Bwa.

By Warren

September 19, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

I do believe I would be refering to that group that seems to draw the wrath of RCH every time it is even hinted at Political Foreskin.

By jm

September 19, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Little known trivia, Jackie Robinson, the guy who integrated baseball, was a republican. He even campaigned for Nixon. Wonder if he would still be a republican if he were alive today.

By time for the harsh unassailable truth

September 19, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Only a snivelling pandering liberal MoRoN would give a flying fook what racist BET blacks “think” … as if??? about Republicans. This is America’s most racist network with endelss mouthy bigoted black so called comedians puking up anti-white hate. If whites did the exact same kind of jokes about blacks … saying blacks this and blacks that the racial spoils crowd would go beserk.

Christ now even the grand wizard racist extortionist slug jesse jackasson is saying Barak the big eared vacuous far left magic negro is “acting white” because he won’t sign on to this pathetic growing black lynch mob crowd over this black thug outrage somewhere in the inbred corrupt cajun sh!tehole of LA because six COWARDLY black thugs are being properly prosecuted after they beat a single young white guy unconscious!!.

Every visionary, free thinking black conservative and black independent non demoNcrat voter is (at least collectively) treated by leftist/demoNcrat BLACKS and twisted white liberals despicably … frequently abused with vile racebaiting names like uncle tom, a sell out, a house n igger etc. The racist black lynch mob mentality is alive and well in America and still aggressively ‘politically lynching’ ANYONE black who thinks independently, seeking to get away away from the utterly moronic herd of racist pachyderms gimme gimme racial spoils mentality.

The black bigoted corrupt hypocritical grasping scumbag maynard jackasson (why as he was very wealthy compared to most ‘local’ blacks did he need a TGIF franchise at Hartsfield airport - supposedly set aside for non-established minorities, not black fat cats like jackasson who also shamefully LIED about their “sweetheart” dealings with the City of Atlanta) despicably deemed blacks who voted for a white Atlanta mayoral candidate “smiling shuffling negroes”. Black racists like andy young, KKKarters grand wizard at the UN and life long black racist has had to constantly apologise through its bigoted life for racist attitudes comments about non-blacks. If he says it in public he sure is thinking it/saying it in private far more frequently!!!

The head of the black congressional caucus in GA stated gleefully that blacks should NOT be found guilty by courts/black juries during the trial of Ralph Abnernathy the turd … a peeping tom (no not our peeing tom folks) and corrupt to the core convicted jail house criminal … despite blatant attempts at jury fixing by despicable blacks like the haughty snotty coretta king, sharptongue the arson killer inciter et al. And we all know about the hatemongering racist mckinneybitch!!

just a tiny handful of examples from (mostly) GA.

Black racism in hippety hop has been unbelievable … killing white cops was/is seen as ultra cool, racist sneering at jews is part of this vile neanderthal culture.

America will finally move on and become a truly colour blind society when around 80-90% blacks are actually capable of thinking individually for themselves and are not collectively manipulated by racist demagogues and vote buying guilt ridden liberal scum … and NOT relying on vile black hate groups like the naacp. And the often sullen self serving bigoted wankers in the gimme the collection plate black MICKY MOUSE clergy groups (who are mostly NOT really “proper” clergy having been through academically demanding seminaries like the papists and C of E clergy have to) … these micky mouse reverends who use “community” as a code for blacks as they are too gutless to be too explicit in their racial spoils demands.

When racist quotas end and the vile gimme gimme racist preferences end … when the moronically racist you’re acting white attitude by getting an education mentality ends … America will start to be free of (black) racism/bigotry and their loathsome gimme gimme mentality.

There are some increasingly hopeful signs … but sadly its a long long way off.

DUSTY MUST BE VERY VERY PROUD that she is able to so effortlessly goad the leftist scum on here to post such poisonous unhinged visceral personal attacks … simply because of her sunny, optimistic, refreshing patriotism … that these should have been aborted twisted far left vermin never cease to sullenly puke up!! These scum show us all what depravity passes for the mind set of the left in this country.

DELOUSE THEM AND DEPORT THEM!!!

By Hillaryous

September 19, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

Yes, a link from moveon.org is credible. They lied in their ad about car bomb death counts being cherry picked and not fully counted. Geez.

By hypocrites

September 18, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this

The problem with you neocons and conservatives is that you are still fighting ideologies from the last century while the rest of us have moved on with progressive ideas to address problems in today’s America. You keep up the good fight against Karl Marx.

That’s ironic as hell. First, libs know calling themselves “liberal” causes those 28% who profess to not be a “liberal” to run away..fast. So, what do the “liberals” do? Change the wording to being “progressive” as if they are moving forward or something. Counting on more government control and less individual responsibility is the last thing I think of being “progressive.”

Point two: Stalin called his movement “progressive” too:

Whether we like it or not, whether many Communist parties in the world agree or not is inconsequential at this time of history! Unless all of the progressive movement learns quickly as to the role and importance of Stalin within the CPSU and understand as to why the class enemy of the working class - greedy capitalism and imperialism - spend all their time and billions upon billions of dollars on myriad of books, TV programs, newspapers, different studies, research, philosophical explanations, newly discovered Marxist theories, trained spies and saboteurs, buy-off of elements within the progressive movements, etc. etc. ad nausea, then the class enemy has done its dirty job well of vilifying and making the name of Stalin a dirty word and thus sow confusion and distrust amongst the progressive and communist movements all over the world.

These stupid liberals don’t even know what in the hell they really stand for. Morons.

By Hillaryous

September 19, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

Correction:

..causes those 28% who profess to not be a “liberal” to run away

That should have been: those 72% who profess to not be a “liberal” since only 28% of Americans actually acknowledge to being liberal vs. conservative vs. moderate. (31% admit to being conservative for anyone who cares)

By AmVet

September 19, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

The President’s loss of credibility, so determinedly sought after and so irrefutably earned over the past six years of deceit, is but a microcosm of the “new” GOP.

Though the words are cloaked, Mr. Wooten hits the nail squarely on the head with his use of the phrase (special) “interest group”.

To the neo-cons, black Americans, or anybody but white Republicans for that matter, ARE special interest groups.

In many cases the “base” tries to subtly portray blacks as largely shuffling, shiftless, hands out mooches. And since the 1960s they have done virtually everything wrong in the area of civil rights, and there are numerous examples where separate but not quite equal has been their unspoken mantra.

Yet, the problem of racial ignorance is not monopolized by the GOP.

But the reality is, that they have fought tooth and nail, and much harder than others, to protect their own white power and green money.

They love that the “faithful” believe the claptrap about blacks being too stupid and/or lazy to do much more than rely on BIG GOVERNMENT and use this and other canards to explain why they have been so repulsive to that group of voters. Or anybody sympathetic to their issues.

I believe that the overt/covert bigotry, especially as it is still alive and well here in the deep south, is only a part of the issue though.

Politically, the southern Republicans are the spawn of the most rabid bigots in American political history. Sure they’ve gotten more sophisticated in their approach, but make no mistake about it, the Strom Thurmonds, and their admirers like Trent Lott and very recently, Bob Corker are still very influential in defining the party’s outdated racial attitudes and garnering the white vote in Dixie.

So it is IMHO, also their twisted neo-conservative ideology that allows for NO compassion, NO empathy and certainly NO attempts to understand the realities and the underlying problems.

400 years of slavery and brutal oppression? No problem! We’ll just sweep it under the carpet and pretend there is now a level playing field.

And THAT is why the four clowns of the apocalypse are not going to show up in Baltimore.

That and a complete lack of courage to face the music.

By Dusty

September 19, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

OK all you libs no matter what color you are and I don’t care. I assume you are Americans.

getalife is now sponsoring a link that says THE TROOPS BETRAY US. While our troops are fighting and dying for us, are you going to sit around and let him post stuff like that with no objection?

Of course we have free speech. The point is, WHY DOES HE BETRAY OUR TROOPS? Is he representing liberals? Democrats?

You can call me all the names you wish. It is so inconsequential and reflects only on YOU. Do you or do you not SUPPORT OUR TROOPS?

By getalife

September 19, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

The troops called him that crusty. Can you read?

Support the Webb amendment like Hagel is doing right now on C-Span2 and you will support the troops.

By Dusty

September 19, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

Time for …truth @11:29

Thank you for your kind words. There is no doubt that we both have strong love for this great country of ours.

Best wishes,
Dusty

By jbmlaw

September 19, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

Dear AmVet @ 11:36, when you write, “To the neo-cons, black Americans, or anybody but white Republicans for that matter, ARE special interest groups,” I wonder why you selectively slander the Jewish Republicans.

By Dusty

September 19, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

getalife,11:48

You posted it and betrayed your own sentiments. Quit sniveling.

By jbmlaw

September 19, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

Dear Getalife @ 11:48, the Ensign tells me that you loonies who slander Petraeus don’t have any idea of what you are talking about. Petraeus is well-liked.

By getalife

September 19, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

Learn to read idiots.

Geez.

By getalife

September 19, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

McLoser says resting the troops at home will harm them.

This is how you support the troops, you don’t.

So stop with the bs losers.

You support your failed party over the troops.

Pathetic scum.

By Dusty

September 19, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

getalife 11:57

Learn to appreciate your own country and support the troops for a change.

By IraqVetX2

September 19, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Dusty, you’re false rah rah type “patriotism is sickening. If you really support us, the troops, do your part to bring us home and get this sorry as# administration to take care of our wounded. You don’t support the troops Dusty. You support your Gods GW Bush and Dick Cheney. So at least be honest Dusty. Spit it out. Support GW no matter how many troops die for his ill advised war. We don’t need “supporters” like you.

By Dustbuster

September 19, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

I thought the Dustacean was going out to do some worthwhile work today. What happened? Did she take another swig and change her mind?

By getalife

September 19, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

You are a fraud crusty.

Everybody knows it.

By Jenny Craig

September 19, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

Dustbuster, she finished those 2 half gallons of ice cream already. What that fat version of Peg Bundy ought to do is a little multi tasking. She could waddle on over to the fridge and get her entire ration for the whole day. That way she can blog and put on a few more punds without having to stop her work.

By Morons HAVE no life

September 19, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

This fook getalife gets his daily screw from Dkos.

Nobody addressed that scumbags allegations on General Petreaus at Blackfive. They were too busy talking Petreaus up:

Petraeus may have been loved by his troops but his officers hated him. He was a pompous, “mine is bigger than yours” kind of guy. However, he is one of the most brilliant men I have ever met or worked for.

So I’d put it to this august group -what’s “great” look like in the 21st Century?

GEN Cody and GEN Petraeus, for different reasons, would be my choices…

GEN Petreaus is Marshall to Cody’s Bradley. The brains of the outfit. The man is just brilliant and the Army’s going to be a lot better off in the future with him setting the direction of training and doctrine.

They had some sh!t to say about Clinton though.

I’ve also heard a lot of talk from the NCO’s and the Chiefs in my unit, and the general opinion is that all of the branches lost a heap of quality officers during the Clinton drawdown years.

You need to get the hell off this blog gotlifegotscrewed. You post sh!t cause you like the smell.

By Jackie

September 19, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

The US Senate has voted to not support the Wenn-Haegel Amendment that mandates the ground forces be given as much time home as they have served in a combat zone. Those “supportive” GOP Senators and Mr. Liebermann voted against the measure, effectively killing it because there is not enough votes to move the bill from filibuster status. I wonder where all the blustering, troop-loving members of our society happen to stand on this issue? When will these people understand that the PROFESSIONAL MILITARY folks have stated our ground forces are at the point of breaking and must have replacements to allow them to continue functioning effectively. Dubya has said he will only call up more National Guard soldiers if the Amendment passes. The Pentagon has run out of options with the stop-loss orders, recalls and bribery of young men and women. Bring on the draft to protect this country from the al-Qaeda, who has plan to follow us home to fight us here and take away our freedoms.

By Dusty

September 19, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

Dusbuster @12:04,

What is your contribution for today anywhere? Do you have any trouble keeping up with your multiple IDs?

IraqVetx2

Your service for our country is much appreciated. Were you wounded? Are you saying that no one is taking care of our injured troops?

Perhaps you should tell us that there are no terroristic elements in Iraq. I feel quite strongly that the battle in Iraq has delayed terrorism elements for many years.

As to my God, there is only one and he watches over ALL of us everywhere. May you soon enjoy some peaceful time at home.

By getalife

September 19, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Moron,

“Fallon told Petraeus that he considered him to be “an a*-kissing little chickenshit” and added, “I hate people like that”.

He turned politician and wants to be President moron.

By time for the truth

September 19, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Wooten not knowing Smiley’s name is either an intentional dis, or a clue to how out of touch Wooten is with anyone who does not think or look like him.

By Morons HAVE no life

September 19, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

Who’s your source gotalifegotscrewed?

Who heard Fallon say that? Fallon wants to bomb Iran. He wants all military attention focused on Iran you numbnutz. The Persian Gulf is his theatre of operations.

By DebbieDoRight

September 19, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

You need to get the hell off this blog gotlifegotscrewed. You post sh!t cause you like the smell.

At least getalife always references his comments with a link so that we can see and read it for ourselves to draw our own conclusions. However, I’ve noticed that some of the people on the other side of the spectrum, never even try to. It somehow seems sort of shady………

By Captain Freedom

September 19, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

getalife

THE Captain is certain that this Fallon guy who called the Godly Future President Petraeus an “a$s-kissing little chicken$h!t” is an America-hating Islamoliberal who doesn’t know or care anything about the military or Our Troops. Why does he hate our troops? Furthermore, why has the government tracked him down and put him jail for sedition and slander?

Keyes for President. It’s the Right Thing to do.

By Dick Cheney

September 19, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Dusty maybe IraqVetX2 should have more logically stated that you support the men of your sexual fantasies, GWB and myself and not the troops. But I will say this for you. At least when you disappear we know what you are doing. No phone surveillance for you my sweet. Many good orgasms to you mi diosa gorda del sexo.

P.S. That picture of me in bikini briefs that you requested should be in your Adult Friendfinder mailbox as we speak.

By Morons HAVE no life

September 19, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

What’s shady about it Debbie?

Here’s a clue — Nobody addressed that scumbags allegations on General Petreaus at Blackfive.

By getalife

September 19, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Captain,

Probably because he is replacing Pace as Betrayus’s boss. I agree with the Admiral.

Bwa.

Debbie,

Moron is, well, a moron.

By AmVet

September 19, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Firstly and most importantly, I salute IraqVetX2 and the other modern day heroes who have served this nation so well and with such sacrifice. They have carried on the very best traditions of defending this great country.

Jackie, once again the GOP, that party of vision and clarity, has demonstrated just how incompetent and essentially immoral they remain with this despicable move.

This amendment was absolutely critical to our men and women in uniform and to their families and to everyone who believes in this country.

IMHO, the Senators who voted against this amendment voted against our men and women in uniform - plain and simple.

This administration has willingly painted itself into a corner, and through an endless series of missteps and misjudgments they have set up a scenario where everything is now predicated on the FACT that there simply are not enough troops available to sustain this inane occupation for years and years and years.

But the Republican leadership does not care. They bought the VP’s moronic assertions about going to war with the army you have. Damn that man. But it is more important and politically expedient (and therefore NO mention of the D word) to them to remain resolute than to admit that have completely sh-it the bed.

Webb and Hagel know more about valor and have more courage in their little fingers that the rest of these never-served, never will neo-cons have in their entire bodies.

Anybody who continues to vote for these cretins is to, me beyond belief.

By Peep I Mean Veep

September 19, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Thanks for all your contris over at wifelovers Dusty! You are one killer BBW!

By IraqVetX2

September 19, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

Thanks AmVet. You actually understand what supporting the troops means as opposed to supporting a political agenda. Thanks. We troops really do need more support like yours.

By deegee

September 19, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Calling the nationally syndicated Tavis Smiley by the wrong name was no intentional dis. It was an oversight by a so called journalist employed by the local fish wrapper. JW poses the question and unwittingly answers it.

By Curious Observer

September 19, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

Whew! For a minute there, I thought J. B. Stoner had put the mortal coil back on and decided to vent a little more hatred against blacks. But then I reminded myself that it’s only TFTT. I can only assume that it was horrendously abused by an over-sized, over-sexed black kid in a British public school dorm where children commit all kinds of unspeakable sexual acts upon one another. As a result, we get from TFTT not only a confusion about its sexual identity but also a kind of Byronic alienation, but without the derring-do and the manliness. We get the juvenile twisting and application of names, together with an appalling racism that would make an Exalted Cyclops cringe.

Nope, I don’t understand why those black people don’t like Republican politicians. I mean, what’s a little lynching and civil rights abuses among friends? Some people just don’t have any sense of humor. Just ask Earl Butz—if you can dig him up.

Perhaps the Republican candidates would be better served by devoting their remaining time to committing as many depradations on our civil liberties and economic opportunities as possible, while they’re still numerous enough to do it. It’s for certain they will be in the political wilderness for a long time after the election of 2008. I doubt that the Democrats even need the black vote to assure that result.

By RealPatriot

September 19, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Hey Dusty, oh faux one. When are GW and the boys gonna start really protecting us?

By Harold Meyerson Wednesday, September 19, 2007; Page A23

The American economy may be teetering on the brink of a recession, but there’s an industry our hedge fund gurus believe has an almost limitless future: the Chinese police state.

In a stunning report in the New York Times last week, correspondent Keith Bradsher documented the rise of China’s electronic surveillance industry, whose leading companies have incorporated themselves in the United States and obtained the lion’s share of their capital from U.S. hedge funds. Though ostensibly private, these companies are a for-profit adjunct of the Chinese government.

By DebbieDoRight

September 19, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Those “supportive” GOP Senators and Mr. Liebermann voted against the measure, effectively killing it because there is not enough votes to move the bill from filibuster status. I wonder where all the blustering, troop-loving members of our society happen to stand on this issue?

They stand right behind Dumbya, (see the posts from our resident War Monger) — they like to talk about how they love the troops, but when it comes time for action, they fall short. They’re too busy driving around with their little yellow ribbons to actually do anything other than talk. REAL SUPPORT TAKES REAL EFFORT; and judging by the blogging War Monger, most of the Dumbya Choir doesn’t have it in them to even try.

The Pentagon has run out of options with the stop-loss orders, recalls and bribery of young men and women. Bring on the draft to protect this country from the al-Qaeda, who has plan to follow us home to fight us here and take away our freedoms

If they do that, then their realtives an loved ones will have to finally stand up and answer the “call for freedom”; so in essence, that will NEVER happen.

Now the War Monger as wll as jbmlaw will tell the story of how their “very own offspring” have partaken of the fruit of Dumbya’s illgotten war, however, I simply don’t believe it. Why are their children out of the action now when the troop level is so low? I have been on a lot of military members’ blogs and they tell of friends and old comrades being “recalled” into active duty. ESPECIALLY the ones who were once in the Officer’s corps or ones with select jobs. How is it that their kids escaped? Read the below article for more info:

Army will order thousands in IRR to muster

IRR members are people who were honorably discharged after finishing their active-duty service but have not yet completed the eight-year commitment they made when they joined the Army. While in the IRR they are not required to train; they are not paid, and thus many believed they had no further active-duty obligation. Some are former officers who chose not to resign their commission and thus remained on the IRR rolls.

Some more links: http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/01/ntirrmuster070125/

By Goldwater Republican

September 19, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this



Division Problem The GOP’s Ruinous Immigration Stance

By Michael Gerson Wednesday, September 19, 2007; A23

Immigration used to be a debate among Republicans. Now the issue survives mainly as a weapon.

Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney— who once commented on illegal immigrants, “I don’t believe in rounding up 11 million people and forcing them at gunpoint from our country” — attacks Rudy Giuliani for not rounding up enough illegal immigrants when he was mayor of New York. Giuliani — who once said, “If you come here and you work hard and you happen to be in an undocumented status, you’re one of the people who we want in this city” — criticizes Romney for tolerating “sanctuary cities” in Massachusetts.

One gets the impression of decent men, intimidated by the vocal anger of elements of their own party.

That anger is pushing Republicans into some powerful symbols of indifference to Hispanic voters. The Univision Republican debate, scheduled for last Sunday with simultaneous translation into Spanish, was postponed when only Sen. John McCain agreed to show up. Rep. Tom Tancredo objected to the event on principle: “We should not be doing things that encourage people to stay separate in a separate language” — which raises the question: Is saying “Viva Cuba Libre” no longer permissible for Republicans? And this snub came on the heels of conspicuous Republican absence at a forum held by the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials, and at the National Council of La Raza convention.

It is a strange spectacle. Conservatives are intent on building a more appealing, post-Bush Republican Party. But their most obvious change so far is to reverse remarkable Republican gains among one of the fastest-growing groups of American voters. The renovators seem more like the wrecking crew.

From the beginning of his political career, George W. Bush refused to support amnesty for illegal immigrants. He did, however, take a principled, middle-ground position that also appealed to Latinos — a proposal that would give legal status to those who want to work in America and return home, while also providing a realistic (but not easy) path to citizenship for those who want to stay.

The political effects were immediate. Bob Dole got about 21 percent of Hispanic votes in 1996. Bush won about 35 percent in 2000. In 2004, Bush ran in the Latino media on the slogan “Nos conocemos,” or “We know one another” — and both he and Republicans in Congress averaged over 40 percent of the Hispanic vote.

The political effects of conservative opposition to immigration reform have been swift as well. Latino support for GOP candidates dropped back to 30 percent in 2006. According to one poll, Latinos under age 30 now prefer a generic Democrat over a Republican for president by 42 points. A harsh, Tancredo-like image of Republicans has solidified in the mainstream Hispanic media. And all of this regression will be even more obvious in the next few months, because more than half of the Hispanic voters in America live in states that are part of the new lineup of early primaries.

I have never seen an issue where the short-term interests of Republican presidential candidates in the primaries were more starkly at odds with the long-term interests of the party itself. At least five swing states that Bush carried in 2004 are rich in Hispanic voters — Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado and Florida. Bush won Nevada by just over 20,000 votes. A substantial shift of Hispanic voters toward the Democrats in these states could make the national political map unwinnable for Republicans.

There is a moral hazard as well. Surfing on a wave of voter resentment is easier than rowing on the calmer waters of inclusion and charity. But the heroes of America are generally heroes of reconciliation, not division.

In politics, some acts are so emblematic and potent that they cannot be undone for decades — as when Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Goldwater was no racist; his constitutional objections were sincere. Members of the Republican Party actually voted for the Civil Rights Act in higher percentages than Democrats. But all of this was overwhelmed by the symbolism of the moment. In his autobiography, Colin Powell says that after the Goldwater vote, he went to his car and affixed a Lyndon Johnson bumper sticker, as did many other African Americans. Now Republicans seem to be repeating history with Hispanic Americans. Some in the party seem pleased. They should be terrified.

By Dusty

September 19, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

Ho hum…more libs with multiple IDs and no character. You libs really need better representation.

By Aquagirl

September 19, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Word to AmVet’s 12:58. Dusty’s YellowRibbonMobile patriotism means little to a Reservist on his second tour, getting divorce papers in the mail.

We’ve been in Iraq since 2003, and we’re increasing reliance on National Guard and Reserve units. We’ve already crushed our active-duty units. Way to plan a war, Prez. Way to support our troops, Keyboard warriors. Treat them like garbage under Bush’s political foot.

By Captain Freedom

September 19, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

By Dusty

You libs really need better representation.

THE Captain applauds Dusty’s pithy comeback. It is true, the Islamunist-loving liberals here do themselves no favors with their fact- and experience-based postings. Links to supporting material further undermines their so-called “position”.

THE Captain thanks the Good Lord that we True Belief Real Americans are represented by the likes of Dusty and Time for Meth. There could be no more accurate representation of the Common Sense Conservative viewpoint and mindset.

Kudos Dusty. And your lttle dog, tftt, too.

By AmVet

September 19, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

IraqVetX2, it is you to be thanked!

BTW, my only son reports for active duty in less than two weeks, so I will have a chance to relive my military experiences vicariously through him.

Those who have never been stationed a long, long, long way from home cannot really appreciate how the men and women in uniform, and particularly their families suffer so emotionally.

The fear is one thing, but missing your spouse and children, or son or daughter, or your parents, and family and friends is simply and nothing but gut wrenching. Everyday those parents hope with all their might that a military vehicle does not come up their driveway.

I read where there were but seven GOP Senators who came down on the side of our troops. SEVEN! I can assure you that I am going to write my favorite two, Mssrs. “Blood and guts” Chambliss and “UGA Young Republican” Isakson and let them know what I think of their “courage”.

By MV7

September 19, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Dusty and tftt are lesbians. Together.

By Aquagirl

September 19, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

Oh, gotta run, but here’s more of Dusty’s Chickenhawkers, Young Republicans supporting this crucial war against terrorism from the hellhole of the Sheraton in D.C.

By timetopissontheneoconscumandotherrepubicsublifeforms

September 19, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

I am so going to enjoy the next five years: watching the american dollar become worthless on foreign exchange markets, watching as oil products become more expensive everyday, and less available, watching the pampered spoiled american public lose their life-s savings and struggle to put food on the table each day. You all voted the chimp into office twice, so as I see it, you have this financial and lifestyle beating coming. I say, bring it on.

By Captain Freedom

September 19, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

THE Captain wishes to commend Senators Chambliss and Isakson for their stalwart support of Our Troops.

By voting against the liberal plan to give these brave heroes more time at home with their families, the good Senators are saving Our Troops from the exhausting ordeal of traveling nearly halfway around the world. Anyone who has flown lately knows the Hell that is air travel.

Don’t we ask enough of these brave young men and women. Apparently the liberals think not, and would not hesitate to put Our Heroes through this ordeal. Why do they hate America so?

Thank you, Senators, for your brave defense of Our Fighting Heroes. You each clearly learned much from your own time in the service.

THE Captain embraces you.

By Dusty

September 19, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

MV7 1:37

As I said, libs need better representation. You prove that point.

Captain Freedom @1:33

Dear heart, I don’t have a dog. There is a feral cat that stops by but he won’t let us pet him, just feed him. He only wants the attention and to keep the enemy in sight. We call him Captain.

By deegee

September 19, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Here is where the republican party lives. They have found their niche in the anti-immigrant movement.

http://www.topix.net/forum/news/immigration

By RealPatriot

September 19, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

Dusty, oh faux one. You don’t get it do you bimbo? When a psuedo patriot and bonified, certified, documented Bush butt liplocker like you calls someone a liberal because they disagree with your blindly ignorant proslytizing political agenda a liberal, it is something to be proud of. If that is what constitutes a liberal than we need a nation full of liberals. So call me a liberal lemming girl. At least I have a few thoughts that don’t come from Newts manifesto or Roves treasure trove of debunked propoganda. Make like the Scarecrow and see if the Wizard will give you a brain.

By timetopissontheneoconscumandotherrepubicsublifeforms

September 19, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Dusty and ttft together? That-s the most disgusting thing I have heard of since the movie titled - Notes on a Scandal. I picture Dusty as a Judi Dench character, totally unfeminine and ugly, as well as manipulative and living in a complete fantasy world. ttft is most likely not nearly as attractive as Cate, but fortunately we will never find out.

By Dusty

September 19, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

Dear Captain,1:47

Please let me know when Congress becomes the Joint Chiefs of Staff and takes over wartime planning for the military.

Right now, I am having a little trouble saluting General Pelosi and General Reid. I am afraid they are listening to the anti-war protestors who vigorouslhy fight freedom at computers in their foxhole cubicles.

Maybe Chambliss and Isakson feel the same way.

By time for the anti-fa ggot, lets carpet bomb all surrender monkeys truth

September 19, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

I see the odious just too cowardly to be a VT based child rapist peeping tom is desperately AGAIN trying to project its sick queeralicous fantasies about English schoolboys onto its intellectual/genetic conservative betters yet again.

poor old peeping tom wistfully misses the butch S & M free for all of those depraved Freddie Mercury like mincing f aggot orgies of its pre HIV days. Its barely controllable with a COCKtail of drugs Anally Injected Death Sentence has made it one obsessively malevolent hectoring dried up old senile bitter queen!!!

ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST and peeping tom’s heavily soiled stinky pillow … eh peeping tom??

Legitimate, FACTUAL, albeit rather restrained criticism of the worsening plague of racist/racial spoils blacks is PERFECTLY PROPER. Lauding smart intelligent conservative/independent thinking blacks for their vision and courage in trying to escape the slavish guilt ridden gimme gimme racial spoils plantation is one’s proud national duty! As ever the snake bellied shemale sickster peeping tom refuses to actually deal with the facts posted and glosses over nasty black racism… as endlessly puked up by the likes of andy GRAND WIZARD young and sinthia CYCLOPS mckinneybitch.

GOADING SUCH LEFTIST inhuman SCUM as peeping tom is always good for a larrrrf though … peeing tom is the perfect target for lets mercilessly mock the bloated puss filled walking CHIRPING surrender monkeys.

as ever peeping tom is implaccably incapable of actual debate … but it sure loves it’s shirtlifting queeralicious porn that keeps it one YANK (gedditt??) away from soiling its state mental hospital keyboard with pink pinKKO ‘emissions’.

Watching the far left cowards continue to TRY AND as ever MISERABLY FAIL to bully/intimidate Dusty is freaking hilarious. These blackhearted vermin need to doused in a super medicated Napalm bodywash!!

getaturd is as toxic and poisonous as ever … what a slimy greaseball treasonous illegal leeching turd it is!!

I think that about mirrors back a reasonable amount of the unremitting witless SEPTIC far left cut and run unhinged hate for now.

By PETA

September 19, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

By Dusty

September 19, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

MV7 1:37

As I said, libs need better representation. You prove that point.

Captain Freedom @1:33

Dear heart, I don’t have a dog. There is a feral cat that stops by but he won’t let us pet him, just feed him. He only wants the attention and to keep the enemy in sight.

Smart Cat!

By Dusty

September 19, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Real Patriot confesses she is a liberal lemming girl @1:51

Well, there goes the feminist movement. Women just aint never gonna get no respect!!!

By jm

September 19, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

Ah yes, Senator Saxby Chambliss, a man of such strong convictions that he did a complete 180 on immigration reform.

Not to familiar with the particulars of the Hagel-Webb Amendment but I would be interested to know if it deals with “stop-loss”.

By LiveFreeOrDie

September 19, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

I can’t believe that a right wing fascist wannbe goose stepping con like Dusty with her perverted fixation on Bush/Cheney and their surveillance society had the gall to say one word about freedom. It is you and others of your ilk Dusty that are the enemies of freedom and liberty. Coming from your mouth the word patriot has such a fake and demeaning quality to it.

By Drive by shooter

September 19, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

I see Dust brain is getting whacked in here again today.

By AmVet

September 19, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Senator Chambliss,

To say I am disappointed with your vote to disallow rational, compassionate troop rotations would be a huge understatement.

Though this invasion and occupation has been unquestionably mismanaged from the very start, is there never going to be a time for this administration and it’s proxies to start doing the right thing for our troops?

I only regret that Mr. Cleland, a fellow veteran, does not represent me, as his combat experience and proven courage and valor would allow him to see the situation with much more clarity and compassion.

Not that “Blood and Guts” Saxby will probably ever read it, much less reply, but man I love this country!

By jbmlaw

September 19, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

Dear Drive-by @ 2:31, you act like you are surprised to see epithets radiating from the left. That is a daily fact here.

By Dusty

September 19, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Oh dear,

I was just going to hang out some laundry on the clothesline when LiveFreeOrDie comes goosestepping into the picture @ 2:26. Speaking of a goose, well….nevermind.

Yes, I have a clothesline. I support clean air, energy conservation and all that good stuff. I also like lower electric bills. Besides that, I have a National Wildlife Calendar which makes me a guaranteed wild lifer. As you see, I am a real conservative conservative. And I must run. Have a good time slashing and bashing!!

By Drive by shooter

September 19, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw, Dusty is the one here that really disgusts me. She’s not a patriot or supporter of troops. She’s a shill for a failed administratio. No more no less.

By Dusty'sHusband'sGirlfriend

September 19, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

She disgusts her husband too Drive by. That’s why he spends so much time with me.

By getalife

September 19, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Can somebody tell me why anybody but “white power” voters would vote gop?

By jbmlaw

September 19, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Dear AmVet @ 1:34, I admire your son for his courage. I disagree with you on what constitutes being on the side of the troops – my own assessment is they are disparaged by seven Republicans and all Democrats but one in the Senate.

Dear Tx100 @ 1:44, while I agree with your assessment that the American economy is now doomed, I attribute causation to the Democrats’s failure to re-enact the tax cuts. Only Democrats would impose the largest tax increase in the history of the world at a time of a declining economy.

Dear Dusty @ 1:48, funny line, my compliments.

By AmVet

September 19, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Not that it matters to the people who don’t agree or to those who want to keep their heads in the sand, but according to The Military Times, 75% of the troops on the ground in Iraq say they are stretched too thin.

Three out of four.

Why does that sound so familiar?

Oh yeah! That’s the same percentage of Americans who think this administration is AFU’d trying to run this “war”.

The GOP - Loving our Troops to Death.

By time for kick the demoNcrat filth out of America truth

September 19, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

so the demoNcrat surrender monkey run congress is at an all time low of 11% in the new leftist Reuters/Zogby poll …. GOP payback in 08 will be a b itch for b itches like the Pelsoibitch, the venal lying Hitllarybitch, the black bigot jackassonPeebitch, the maxinewatersZombie, the BOxerbitch, the Feinsteinbitch, the Feingoldbitch

even funnier is that the giant ambulance chasing hypocrite Johnny I shamelessly exploit my wife’s cancer Edturds only manages an utterly pathetic 10% … even lower than the congress this maggot gleefully ran away from … as it simply couldn’t get reelected in NC … let alone even win its “home” state against Bush with the deranged eco wankkker alBOre.

watching the gutless always lying HITllarybitch - and the other leftist w hores sucking up commie betray the troops and hate America money - cut and run like skeered little liberal pu$$ies from answering questions about the recent we MUST hang these scum for treason moveyourbowels.org sick and twisted lies about General Petraeus was freaking hilarious. The uber competent General makes these yellow bloated lice look like more and more forgotten Orkin targets!!

DEMONCRATS ARE INHUMAN surrender monkey SCUM!!

By Darrell

September 19, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

So now it is up to the Democrats to prop up an economy that Bush/Cheney wrecked in the first place? Maybe those tax cuts help it get in it’s present state. Explain please jbmlaw. It is very interesting how the blame is getting shifted from the real culprits.

By MV7

September 19, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

See how sinfully simple it is to goad the turd scarfing, p!ss chugging, anally obsessed, hermaphro-transvestite, faux Brit NAMBLA founder into a fooking hilarious hissy fit?

By jbmlaw

September 19, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

For my conservative friends, a truly funny story from Taranto yesterday:

Two, Four, Six, Eight—That’s How Many People Showed Up

Yesterday we complained about what we dubbed as the “angry hippie whitewash”—i.e., the tendency of news reporters to treat the “antiwar” movement as both bigger and more normal than it actually is. So cheers to the Sacramento News & Review, a self-described “independent alternative” publication, for getting the story right. Jaime O’Neill reports:

The editor of SN&R made a bad call. As a freelance writer, I pitched my services to cover a peace rally on the west steps of the state Capitol building last Friday, September 7, and the editor went for it. As it turned out, there wasn’t much of a story there, but it was impossible to tell in advance that the event would be such a flop… . Without a trace of irony, one of the first speakers at the event shouted into the microphone, “This is what democracy looks like,” and then tried to lead the pathetically small crowd in chanting those words, but the effort died. There may, however, have been more truth than poetry in the observation. When it comes to imposing the popular will on the people who are in charge, this exercise in p** up a rope just might be what democracy looks like these days, at least as it’s practiced in the United States of America. An hour into the event, a woman passed me with a disappointed look on her face and said, “This is pitiful.” And it was. “We are not insignificant,” a speaker read from his prepared speech, but the numbers assembled before him gave lie to his words. And the repeated references to the will of the people seemed pointedly indifferent to the fact of the rather listless group that milled around, carrying the same sorts of banners and placards that might have been seen a couple of generations ago in much larger and much younger gatherings.

Read the whole thing—it’s the feel-good story of the season! http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110010621

By AmVet

September 19, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

Counselor, thank you and I believe I remember reading where your son in the US Navy. Congrats to you and him. Our love of nation and the things that unite us are so much stronger than the things that divide us. Let us all never forget that.

We simply disagree about the troop rotations and the validity of this chosen war in general.

The President could and IMHO should have learned from his gross mistakes.

Remember the pillaging and plundering, the carnage and uncontrollable mayhem immediately following the invasion?

Remember how that ever since then, that country has NEVER BEEN REMOTELY SECURED.

Why?

You and I both know why.

Not enough troops. Not nearly enough.

All the hubris and blustering in the world by this government doesn’t change that fact. Then or now.

So in a inane attempt to skirt that enormous problem, the President has rotated the SAME guys in country over and over and over and over again. It is IMHO immoral and shameful.

Share the love. End it or bring back the draft.

By Kelly

September 19, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

That is good question jbm…if the tax cuts were such a great idea, why is the economy on the verge of a recession?

By time to systematically fumigate America of leftist filth

September 19, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

see how moveyourbowels.org easy it is to manipulate these rabid far left child molesting sh!t stabbers into cretinously puking up their queeralicious cyber obsession about patriotic better educated folks that mercilessly hammer them day after day after day after day!!!

THE ONLY good (fleetingly excuse the deliberately ironic literary licence folks) LEFTIST IS A DEAD LEFTIST!!!

huge tautological smirk

By jbmlaw

September 19, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

Dear Darrell @ 3:11, good questions. At the end of the Clinton Administration, the economy was in free fall (great essay today on Alan Greenspan’s discussion with George W. Bush in December 2000 @ http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110010624) Fortunately the American public signed on to the 10-year tax cut program, to rescue the economy – but, because it did not happen until the Bush administration, the economy suffered great dislocation until the tax cuts kicked in in late 2002. Unfortunately, the tax cuts – originally proposed to be permanent, were made 10-year only due to Democrat control of the Senate. Obviously the economy roared to life until the reality of the 2006 elections sank in a couple of months ago. Now that it looks like the Congress will dither and crush the economy with the massive tax increases – I believe both Mr. Pelosi and Ms. Reid affirmed that was their intention – the markets are pre-emptively correcting. That of course is not without precedent. In 1929, months before the idiot-Republicans destroyed world trade with massive new tariffs, the stock market corrected itself. The depression that followed was a direct result of the government interference with the market. President Hoover pursued tax increases to strengthen the dollar, and the Federal Reserve accommodated those policies. Certainly it is ironic to see the modern democrats pursuing the same course.

Incidentally, we should credit Bill Clinton with one intelligent move during his administration – NAFTA, which produced five years of solid growth in the economy. Note, that was the only explicitly-economic effort during his administration.

By MV7

September 19, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

What’s good for the cretin is good for the lunatic.

After December, I’m going to have a loooong time with little to do but mercilessly hammer cretinous, verminous, incestuous rightists day after day after day after day.

The only good rightist is one that’s been mauled by a pit bull.

By Kelly

September 19, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw, while that is a very educated sounding answer, you failed to mention that much like the dot bombs, GWB rode the coattails of a housing market that was fueled by subprime lending. Basically a smoke and mirror economy that was a house of cards just waiting to collapse under it’s own weight. It didn’t take a genious to understand that. Could it be that old GW was just giving his supporters some payback with the tax cuts and praying to his God every night that the inevitable collapse of HIS economy didn’t collapse on his watch. Could that be it jbmlaw?

By Time to Shiite

September 19, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

queeralicious feckturd arsewipe scumsucking as-slicker - that’s be me, tftt, of course.

By jbmlaw

September 19, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

Dear Kelly @ 3:39, with all due respect, I disagree. Contrary to what the uneducated press may suggest, new houses attributable to subprime mortgages are a meaningless percentage of the economy; the heart-rending stories of foreclosures sell papers. The subprime collapse is merely a blip on the radar screen, but it may prove to be the catalyst that moves a pro-regulatory Congress into foolish mis-steps that will truly cripple the strong parts of the economy. I think anyone who truly believes Congress will not manufacture new restrictions (on the free markets) is in delusion.

By time to feed all rabid lefties to the towel head scum hizbollocks in Beirut

September 19, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

By Time to Shiite

September 19, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

queeralicious feckturd arsewipe scumsucking as-slicker - that’s be me, tftt, of course.

teeeeeheeeeeeeee … huge lets have loads of fun machinegunning all leftist feckwipe scum — smirk!!!

GOAD GOAD GOAD GOAD

YOU NASTY SCUM SUCKING LITTLE LEFTIST DOGTURD(S)

kind of rhymes that … keep on copying me moveyourbowels.org abortion bucket escapees!!!

especially the VT based depraved child rapist!!

By Curious Observer

September 19, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

Now that it looks like the Congress will dither and crush the economy with the massive tax increases …

Poor jbmlaw. He’s already dreading the day he might have to pay something close to his fair share of federal income taxes. And the Democrats are going to “dither and crush the economy with the massive tax increases.”

The Democrats will be doing nothing of the kind. They will simply follow the letter of the law that created these grossly unfair tax cuts for the rich. That law calls for the tax cuts to expire, and expire they will. This economy managed very well with the old tax rates, thank you.

It’s strange how jbmlaw pumps up the greatness of this miserable economy, as though we are living in some kind of economic paradise. Ask the people who cannot find a job beyond a minimum wage one how great it is, as they see jobs that would be theirs shipped overseas. Ask the people who no longer have a pension to rely on how great it is. Ask the people who no longer have employer-sponsored health care coverage about this economy’s greatness under GW Bush.

The truth—and jbmlaw knows it—is that this economy is a disaster waiting to happen. The nation has been playing an economic shell game for years. We moved from prosperity under the Clinton administration to a train wreck—from a federal budget with a $600 billion surplus to one that sinks into the red by almost $400 billion per year. And if the economy is on the brink of a recession, it is not the fault of tax cuts that are scheduled to expire in a couple of years. Such an assertion is beyond idiotic. It is the most pathetic kind of special pleading.

No, jbmlaw, your boy in the White House, who has never run an enterprise that didn’t sink into bankruptcy, has run the ship aground. It’s time to hire a new captain. Get ready to pay up, jbmlaw. Your good times are about to end and ours are about to begin.

By Kelly

September 19, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw, since the housing market was the lynchpin of the economy (if not why was the first stat that you ever heard, “new housing starts”?) obviously a heck of alot of things revolved around it. But giving you the benefit of the doubt here, what other factor can you attribute to the near recession state of our economy? And forget the hypothetical ifs surrounding what MIGHT happen under the new congress. I think the most important issue is what is causing it now or has been heading it in that direction over a period of time. You are obviously one of the more reasonable posters here but in a way you are bearing out the guy that said conservatives try to deflect blame or criticism of their chosen authority figure when they fail. Surely jbmlaw the present administration had more than a little to do with it’s own econimic policies and the success or failure thereof.

By jbm is a condescending...

September 19, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Apparently, what this country needs is jbm telling us what and how to think. No use relying on the “uneducated press” when we have a “lawyer from Atlanta” to tell how and why everything happens. Why waste your time here, jbm? The world awaits its savior.

By jm

September 19, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

A recession is two or more consecutive quarters of negative economic growth, which contrary to what jbmlaw states, did not occur during 2000. Don’t believe me, here are the charts: GDP Growth straight from the US Department of Commerce. Economic slowdown yes, recession, no. It would also be interesting to hear which had a bigger effect on the economy, easy credit (low interest rates) or tax cuts. For me personally, easy credit.

By Kelly

September 19, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

jm I think you are right and it really doesn’t take a seasoned economist to have seen this coming. Easy credit fueling an economy that doesn’t have much else going for it is a disaster waiting to happen. The last 6 years have not been that great for the middle class as it turns out. And I am wondering at the significance of last quarters job loss statistics. That is the first time in a long time that that has occurred. But GW’s economy is robust?

By Race pimp

September 19, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Rumor has it that if America doesn’t put Obama in the White House, it will be labeled around the world as a racist nation. It’s always reassuring that the world who hates us so cares enough to support our very best. [sarc off]

So, first we had Breck Boy’s shotgun health care proposal, and now we have Shrillary’s Gestapo show me the healthcare ID for employment plan. Let’s see how many left wingnuts say anything negative about that. You know, the same wingnuts that went foaming rabid over voter IDs.

Did someone tell Obama he’s acting too white? (Guess that explains why some race pimps got po’d when someone called Obama “articulate”). Hahaha! Who needs Hollywood to write any humor when we have health Nazi Democrats and race w******* Democrats acting normal? Hahaha!

By Political Foreskin

September 19, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Kelly is a bear. I’m still a bull, I told everyone to get in before the spring rally and if you did, then you really love me. Then I signaled a de-accumulate under a falling knife, and anyone who pulled their hand away with me missed the squirt.

Now you must buy back in. We are slow to 20K on the Dow. It’s dead ahead.

Just buy, and write. Write.

Write.

By jm

September 19, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

pofo - you remind me of the broker who keep trying to get me to invest in Enron the month before it tanked. Just be careful with the “irrational exuberance”.

By facts please

September 19, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

“It would also be interesting to hear which had a bigger effect on the economy, easy credit (low interest rates) or tax cuts. For me personally, easy credit.” - jm

Well jm, that’s a no-brainer since tax cuts increase federal revenues and stimulate the economy at the same time. On another matter, I’m just so sure if said easy mortgage companies failed to loan out to the sub-prime people with shady backgrounds and no stability in their lives that Dems would not have called them out on failing to give a chance to those who want to join the dream of owning a home in America. All economic indicators have been strong for some time, so you libs just keep on making your BS up. Let’s not forget that nobody thought we’d EVER recover to where we are today after 9/11 occurred.

2005 article

2007 article

By Rathergate

September 19, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

Dan Rather, aka Mr. 1971 Smith Corona, is suing CBS and Viacom for shoving a story down his throat that was made up.

Well Dan old boy, how come some 40-something pajama ‘net hounds could dig up and verify what you obviously couldn’t or wouldn’t? Poor baby.

By Jackie

September 19, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

It appears Dusty and those on her side of the equation do not understand how our government works. The Congress controls the purse strings; the civilians are in charge of the military, therefore, the Congress has de facto control of military planning by the mere fact they can give and deny funds for any operation, at any time. Wonder why the neo-cons will not say they support the troops anymore? They don’t mind sending others to do the bidding of Dubya and the same “keyboard warriors” continue to pay “lip service” versus “hip service!” Go get in line and raise your hands to support the troops, neo-con cowards!

By Long shot, short put

September 19, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

Place your bets people! Ahmadinejihad, a great admirer of Sheehan (peace be upon Her), has been banned from visiting Ground Zero.

Who will raise hell first? CAIR, the ACLU, or the UN? Place your bets here folks.

By Political Foreskin

September 19, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

The world already thinks we’re a racist, slave owning spinoff run by corporations, but with a condensed and distilled slavery-banning ultimate power still in the hands of the people.

However, time is running short for constitutional evolution to provide the legal basis for the shift back the original series about mythic slave lore. The American People sense that their rights are threatened, and when they get a real whiff of the post 911 defacto coup of the Saudi Royal Family over our government via Cheney, then they’ll see why and how we got trapped like rats (I know, speak for yourself) in Iraq.

Capitalism doesn’t work without pirates. It’s not worth it. We’ll simply destroy ourselves.

The American People must join me in reestablishing the insitutional authority implicit in the Capitol, willing given in the White House, and weaned in the Supreme court.

I want my damn country back. I demand the surrender of Osama Bin Laden. I demand the resignation of every member of the Bush administration replaced by a den of cub scouts (and a gaggle of woheblos), of my choosing, and we let the last sovereignity vacuum suck itself out. (Iraq War is such a vacuum. Let the air in).

Let Iraqis be Iraqis. Pull back, surround the main theatres and watch the fun. They let France have their bloody revolution. They let us have ours. They let the british have all their civil wars. Us too.

So we can have a unified Iraq with the borders bought with blood. I figure there’ll be a few die hard renegade shia left probably holed up in sadr city somewhere. That’s when the kurds’ll call in the napalm. The only good shia is a crispy shia.

Are we to believe that the Shia in Iran will let this happen if they can stop it?

Most civil wars stalemate. Then there’s borders to be drawn. that’s history. that’s what will happen, no way out. History, hello?

By facts please

September 19, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

“The Congress controls the purse strings;”

That’s right, Jackie. Is that why Americans are giving your congressional lovely leadership an 11% approval rating? Methinks so.

By Jackie

September 19, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

The GOP Senators voted to stay on course for their policy of deny basic human rights to those detainees at Guantanamo by denying them the right to contest the charges brought against them. Do they believe that everyone there is guilty? Are 11-year-olds terrorists, or, are they bounty for the warlords in Afghanistan? The ‘08 election will bring different results with Sunnu, Collins, Coleman, Colorado Open, Nebraska Open, Smith, Virginia Open and potentially Domenici, Alexander, Dole and Stevens seats into the Democrat house.

By jm

September 19, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

facts please - we have a negative savings rate. If you spend more than you take in, where does that money come from, easy credit.

As for “increasing federal” revenues, they also increased with President Clinton’s tax increases.

By Blah blah blah

September 19, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

Poly4 with her usual capitalism sucks, communism/socialism is great BS. You just GIVE AWAY your money, P4, but don’t you DARE mandate what others do with THEIRS. Pirates indeed.

By Political Foreskin

September 19, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this

You see, people, when we invaded Iraq, and started our own democracy, with our own emotional and commercial stake in the outcome, we were holding up a mirror to ourselves, or playing barbi-jihad with an entire Islamic country, or trying to relive our past. Well, we had a civil war. With our eyes wide open, we had a civil war.

Iraq: Are we building a monument to ourselves? The great American State- with it’s own implied modern narration of hyperbolic war aims and borderless manifest destiny.

We are in lockstep with a fool. Bush.

By Surprised

September 22, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

I was always told that the publican party was a bunch of racist, that only see and believe what another redneck claimed as long as long as they claimed they were a conservative. Its true, you people are a joke. These comments should be on a comdey show. I’ve read a bunch of one sided crap all morning and you people are considering yourself honest, christians. If that is Christ like behavior no wonder american society is going to hell in a hand basket. Man, you guys put on the asbestos suits cause youre going to need them.

By Surprised

September 22, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

I was always told that the publican party was a bunch of racist, that only see and believe what another redneck claimed as long as long as they claimed they were a conservative. Its true, you people are a joke. These comments should be on a comdey show. I’ve read a bunch of one sided crap all morning and you people are considering yourself honest, christians. If that is Christ like behavior no wonder american society is going to hell in a hand basket. Man, you guys put on the asbestos suits cause youre going to need them. Do you have a mind of your own or did your forefathers refuse you that privilege?

By Surprised

September 22, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

I was always told that the publican party was a bunch of racist, that only see and believe what another redneck claimed as long as long as they claimed they were a conservative. Its true, you people are a joke. These comments should be on a comdey show. I’ve read a bunch of one sided crap all morning and you people are considering yourself honest, christians. If that is Christ like behavior no wonder american society is going to hell in a hand basket. Man, you guys put on the asbestos suits cause youre going to need them. Do you have a mind of your own or did your forefathers refuse you that privilege?

By Surprised

September 22, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

I was always told that the publican party was a bunch of racist, that only see and believe what another redneck claimed as long as long as they claimed they were a conservative. Its true, you people are a joke. These comments should be on a comdey show. I’ve read a bunch of one sided crap all morning and you people are considering yourself honest, christians. If that is Christ like behavior no wonder american society is going to hell in a hand basket. Man, you guys put on the asbestos suits cause youre going to need them. Do you have a mind of your own or did your forefathers refuse you that privilege?