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DEL.ICIO.USNo, Oprah. No politics.
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Dang. Oprah’s going political. The entertainment superstar endorsed Barack Obama in May, but now she’s considering a larger role in his campaign that may include speaking for him at campaign events. She’s also hosted a fund-raiser for him over the weekend at her 42-acre estate in Montecito, Calif. — her first for a political candidate.
“My money isn’t going to make any difference” to a presidential candidate, said Oprah in a television interview with Larry King. “My value to him — my support of him — is probably worth more than any other check that I could write.”
As an Oprah admirer, the news that she’s venturing prominently into the partisan arena is tremendously disappointing. Her advocacy for Obama will do less to help him win the White House than it will to raise questions about future causes and issues she decides to take on. The refreshing thing about Oprah is, or was, that you could watch her program — something I rarely do because it’s not my particular taste and, besides, I’m on the job when it airs — without having to guard against hidden agendas. Now, who knows? It’s hard to be a political operative one day and avoid seeing the world from the perspective of the liberal candidate when the campaign ends. I don’t think you switch in and out.
Too bad. The woman is amazing. Her book club routinely took titles that would have a hard time selling 20,000 and boosted their sales to more than a million. Her decision to avoid the “who’s the baby’s daddy?” sleaze that has become the staple of her small-time competitors raised the bar for daytime television.
It was a mistake for Walter Cronkite to lend is voice to the anti-war movement by offering his personal opinion on the news following the 1968 Tet Offensive and it’s a mistake for Oprah Winfrey to become openly and actively involved in a political campaign. The mistake for Cronkite is that every newscaster after him is assumed to have an opinion about the news that sometimes is reflected in the stories they report. The non-political Oprah was in a class by herself. Why join Rosie and the Dixie Chicks?
Comments
By Shaun
September 12, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this
So what! It is her time and her money. Doesnt she have a right as a citizen to promote her choice for President? If she were supporting Guiliani, no one would say anything. Get over it, Barack is here to stay!
By Watta Load
September 12, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this
It’s her right to support anybody she wants to on her show. If her audience doesn’t like the politics than they will stop watching, and ratings will go down..why is Jim Wooten so against the free market anyway?
Jim Wooten is just jealous because the only influence he has is on the few posters on this blog.
By Curious Observer
September 12, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
Dang! Who would have guessed that a TV show would be used to promote a political candidate or a brand of politics?
Well, certainly Faux News guessed it. Maybe that’s why it was the only network to get an exclusive Brett Hume interview with General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker. Could it be that those two had a lucky guess they’d receive a very uncritical reception there?
Give it up, Wooten. TV has been used to promote political candidates and issues for decades. If any voter is swayed by the opinion of Oprah Winfrey, that says a lot about the quality of the viewing audience.
More to the point, even so-called objective news programs are used to promote the politics of one party or another. You don’t have to be a genius to figure out which side of the political spectrum MSNBC is on, although at least that network has the decency to feature conservative as well as liberal hosts—much more than can be said for Faux News, which, when it does include liberals, always has them outnumbered by conservatives by 3 to 1.
Regrettably, the traditional brand of journalism, the kind I was taught in college many decades ago, is dead. No longer are journalism students taught to be objective, to avoid appearing partisan. And no longer are talk show hosts required to maintain a semblance of objectivity in order to avoid offending a segment of the audience.
The entertainment industry has become as partisan as the rest of this country. Oprah will not be the last talk show star to endorse a political candidate, and those viewers who long wistfully for a return to the good old days need to invent a new medium. If you don’t like the political bent of a show, stop watching it or else turn your back to it, a la Redneck Convert.
By TW
September 12, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this
Great, Jim. Not only do you honor the fallen of 9/11 by crying about your taxes yesterday, but you’ve just added the art of jealous hatred to your resume. At this rate you’ll never catch Cynthia Tucker…
By WTF
September 12, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this
Jim’s an idiot!!!! Jim’s an idiot!!! What the heck are the job requirements for ajc anyway???????? They’ll hire anybody…………lol
By Southern Democrat
September 12, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this
Does no one else find it ironic that the conservative Supreme Court keeps routinely striking campaign finance reform bills and yet George Soros and, now, Oprah Winfrey, are Public Enemies No. 1 & 2 for the far right?
I agree with much of the substance of Mr. Wooten’s column, though I think Cronkite’s actions were more an ethical breach than Winfrey’s (Winfrey does not put herself out as an impartial journalist to my knowledge).
The solution is simple, place a cap on soft money that withstands SCOTUS scrutiny… it must be done for the health of our political process.
Jbmlaw,
I have heard from a friend in D.C. who read an advanced copy of Toobin’s new book that Associate Justice Thomas does not come off looking very good and that the quote of the book comes from Scalia labeling Thomas as “a little out there” or something to that effect.
I look forward to reading it!
By Peter
September 12, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this
Poor Jim……. Cry Jim, maybe you and Craig can discuss this in the John….
Perhaps when you stop crying about who is backing who, you will realize that lot’s of folks are backing other folks…….
Gee Jim did you forget we are in a Democracy?
Did you somehow forget that TV is a huge political tool?
I guess if the shoe doesn’t fit for you, then it is NOT Politically RIGHT ?
Go cry somewhere else Jim, your wining perhaps needs some CHEESE !
By Mid-South Philosopher
September 12, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this
To: WTF@9:07
If, like the liberals, you can’t argue a position without resorting to calling your adversary names, your rationale for opporsition is non-existence.
Having said that:
Good morning, Jim,
While I agree with your position as to Walter Cronkite, I disagree with it as it applies to Oprah, Rosie, and the Dixie Chicks.
Cronkite represented the mainstream media. The mainstream media SHOULD, but NEVER DOES, remain as objective as possible. This doesn’t mean that he shouldn’t have an opinion, but as a “reporter”, he should have refrained from stating it. If he could not contain his feelings, he should have left “reporting” and become an “editorialist.”
The celebrity community is different. They do not purport to be objective. For example, Oprah’s choice of “books” is a totally subjective act. 99% of the time, I have agreed with her perceptions. One percent of the time, she has been off the wall. That is her right.
As for Rosie and the Dixie Chicks, who are they…a national florist brand and and fast food chain? They are inconsequential and have no meaning for me.
On another matter, I apologize for calling Ambassador Crocker, Ambassador Cochran, the other day. It was a freudian slip and not intended as an insult to the ambassador, who is doing a good job.
Further, General Petraeus has said it, the withdrawal begins in the spring. Don’t let me hear you Bushites call the General a cut and runner.
As for the liberals, who insulted the General and Ambassador, suggesting that the two were going to be less than truthful, shame on you. Clearly, General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker provided the most honest appraisal of this conflict since it began in 2003. If anyone had any doubt that Georgie Bush and Donnie Rumsfeld were totally out of their league when they attempted to deal with the occupation of Iraq, General Petraeus’s explanation of how the current SURGE correct the weaknesses of the earlier Bush- Rumsfeld efforts.
Finally, we have American leaders in Iraq!
By DemDems4Ever
September 12, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this
Gee Peter,
Did you never learn the US is a constitutional republic and not a democracy?
Despite the efforts of the left loonies to dupe the American public with this rant about “democracy”, there are still some of us who actually attended school with the goal to learn.
Peter, as Chevy Chase would say on SNL, you whining little toad…
By WTF
September 12, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
mid south………..are we not talking politics?!! That’s what they do………..call each other names, backstab and lie. Get with the program dude!
By MELO
September 12, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
Anybody with a brain has an opinion, I am surprised Jim did not know that, or am I?
By JohnD
September 12, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this
Mid-South@9:26,
There is a significant difference between a General with an informed opinion on the future needs of the military in Iraq calling for troop reduction and the cut and runners who simply play to emotion.
The liberals who call for leaving Iraq without a plan or any recognition of our responsibility there, are certainly worthy of the cut and run label.
I am not a *Bushite as you label, but I recognize irresponsible behavior and those calling for the military to simply walk away from Iraq are just that - irresponsible. I do not care which side of the aisle they occupy in Congress.
I have opined here on many occasions that there is no difference in the two parties once they are elected and I stand by that assessment.
By mqew
September 12, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
I’m sorry, but I have to say it. Yes Jim, yes… Despite the loot, she is still a lil black girl. It seems like more than anything, you’re a little teed cause you thought that this one might be different. JIM Et tu Oprah Say it isn’t soooo
By DemDems4Ever
September 12, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
Winfrey’s support of Osama, er Obama, is based upon one criteria - the color of his skin, simple as that.
By RCH
September 12, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
Oprah Winfrey is not a journalist reporting news. She hosts a talk show. As long as she does not violate any FCC or Election laws she should be able to do as she wishes. If you don’t like it , change channels. I am sure she understands ratings.
By DemDems4Ever
September 12, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this
Peter,
One more try:
An example of a democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
Is that simple enough?
By mqew
September 12, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this
DumDum - Absolutely nothing to do with that fact that he’s smarter than most people… such as your President?!!!
By jbmlaw
September 12, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. I have not watched Harpo since she was a mediocre street reporter at WTVF in Nashville, TN. I thought her dad was a sharper tack. To me she represents touchy-feely leftism rather than any cerebral contribution to the political debate. Let her in.
By mqew
September 12, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
DumDum - Absolutely nothing to do with that fact that he’s smarter than most people… such as your President?!!!
Why can’t she just want to endorse someone who’s qualified as he is?
By mqew
September 12, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
DumDum - Absolutely nothing to do with that fact that he’s smarter than most people… such as your President?!!!
Why can’t she just want to endorse someone who’s qualified as he is?
By Dept of Slogans
September 12, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
“If, like the liberals, you can’t argue a position without resorting to calling your adversary names, ……..”
Are you kidding me????? This has to be the most ridiculous thing you have ever said. Do you read this blog? Your credibility has just taken a hit!
By Mid-South Philosopher
September 12, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this
If we listened to General Petraeus’s testimony, it is clear that America’s troops have done what we have asked them to do. Ultimate success in Iraq is up to the Iraqi people, and, again, if we listened closely to the testimony of both the General and the Ambassador, the real progress is being made in the provinces with the local tribal leaders.
This is NOT to say that the war lords are responsible for all the military progress as the liberals would have us believe, but the local leaders in a number of areas have become our strongest allies, especially against Al-Qaeda.
The members of the the Iraqi national government (not totally unlike the members of our own national government) have done no more that to show up for their flu shots!
In the spring, when General Petraeus will be called upon to recommend the next step of the withdrawal, I believe that he, again, will be objective and honest.
The best thing that can happen will be for the Iraqi local leaders to continue to work with our military forces and our Ambassador to stablize the nation. As soon as the current Iraqi national government can be replaced, via elections, perhaps a more effective effort can be mounted on that front.
Within 24 months, the current U.S. administration will change and whoever is President will have the opportunity to view the situation without prejudice or stubborn pride of opinion.
I am more optimistic than I have been in some months.
By Redneck Convert
September 12, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this
Well, I never watch this Oprah. She’s one of Those People so I expect she’s a librul. Besides, she’s always on when I’m making deliverys. Maybe the missus watches her, I don’t know, I hope not. It don’t matter because I always fill out her absentee ballot so it don’t matter if she gets brainwashed.
If Wooten don’t like the librul politics of a show he can just do what I do. Turn your back and make lots of noise so you don’t hear it.
Most of them are librul anyway. The only safe way to make sure you hear what you want to hear is tune in to Fox News. They always say what a godly conservative wants to hear. If a librul gets on there he gets beat up pretty bad and outnumbered. This Alan Colmes is just a tall skinny punching bag. He gets shouted down by Sean and about three other good conservatives that are being innerviewed.
Just like this blog. If a librul gets on here he gets cussed out by Van and RCH and crazy TFTT and Sister Dusty and that woman with the double a-hole. By the time they are finished that librul would need a stepladder to touch a snake’s belly.
Anyway, there’s more important things to be worryed about. Like weather the godly Sen. Craig is going to be allowed to take back his guilty plea over axidently touching the shoe of the guy in the next bathroom stall. Or weather that New Orleans w—— will get by with smearing the Christian name of the godly Sen. Vitter. He says he only sinned oncet and that was in D.C. and I beleive him. Besides, he couldn’t have a stock of diapers in D.C. and New Orleans too. A Christian conservative wouldn’t lie. That’s what libruls do.
Well, I got a day of heavy lifting and driving ahead of me. Anyway, my advise is to turn the channel to Fox News when this Oprah comes on. You’ll get the truth there. Fair and balanced—that’s what we need and that’s what Fox got.
By jbmlaw
September 12, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Southern, @ 9:11, the quote surely accurately reflects Scalia’s view of Thomas, which parallels the view most conservatives have of us libertarians, e.g., http://www.opinionjournal.com/federation/feature/?id=110010591. Not hatred, or even unhappiness, but a recognition that libertarianism is different from conservatism.
By Curious Observer
September 12, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
A modern libertarian is just a conflicted anarchist with a desire to be free to do whatever he wants to do while wanting the government to restrict those who might interfere.
By Mid-South Philosopher
September 12, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this
I haven’t had the opportunity to be on very much the last couple of days. As a consequence, I am attempting to get caught-up this morning.
When historians 50-100 years from now look back upon the legacy of George W. Bush, there will be much controversy. His initial controversial election; his emergence as a true and decisive leader in the days after September 11, 2001; his invasion of Iraq based upon false intelligence and his failure to hold accountable ANYONE who gave him that advice; his successful prosecution of the combat phase of the Iraqi War; his gross failure to plan for a successful occupation of Iraq after the combat phase of the war; his “you’re doing a heck of a job down here, Brownie” blunder; his gross failure to secure the southern border of the United States; his international corporatist (capitalist communism) economic policies, and his dynamic use of the English language will all be discussed and weighed in the balance.
However, the dominant factor as to Georgie Bush’s legacy may very well be the answer to one question.
Did George W. Bush succeed in capturing or killing Usama bin-Laden?
If in the next 16 months, the President should succeed in bringing this dog-faced, Islamist fanatic to justice, likely the preponderance of shortcomings of the Bush administration will shrink into oblivious except among the ultra-liberals, who hate him for breathing.
If, on the other hand, President Bush swaggers back to Crawford, Texas, on the heels of another flaunting bin-Laden video, likely to be release just before the 2009 inauguration, his ratings will be among such great American chief executives as Franklin Pierce, Warren Harding, and Millard Filmore.
Come to think of it, isn’t Georgie Bush a distant descendant of Franklin Pierce?
By RCH
September 12, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this
DearRedneck Convert
Try to deliver the beer, not drink it. You have never read any blog of mine that used foul, inappropriate language,or name calling. If anything, those who disagree with me have decided to take the smear tactic approach vs. a logical discussion.
By the way,save me a cold one. Thanks!
By getalife
September 12, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this
It is called freedom which the wingnuts give away happily.
faux opinion is backing Rudy but Jim will not talk about that.
Then you have preachers who should pay taxes for being biased for the gop.
By AmVet
September 12, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this
Winfrey’s support of Osama, er Obama, is based upon one criteria - the color of his skin, simple as that.
Perhaps. Maybe even probably.
And THAT IS EXACTLY why this erudite poster as well as millions of voters from Pittsburgh to Fort Meyers to Orange County will not vote for him.
In regards to this well hidden fear of a non-White House, there is a great scene in the recent Simpsons Movie, where the town elders have no choice but to approach Mr. Burns for help regarding a gigantic problem for all of them.
Monty says, “Aaaah, finally rich, white men have the power.”
And the “conservatives” are scared sh!tless that just might be starting to change.
By DebbieDoRight
September 12, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this
Good Lord Jim Wooten! WHO CARE WHO OPRAH ENDORSES!!???!! She’s in the entertainment business — most people in the entertainment business endorse something (NRA—Charlton Heston, PETA—Pam Anderson, RNC—Ronald Reagan, etc).
I think you’re making a mountain out of a mole hill; Oprah is NOT a journalist, sort of like you, and she does NOT have to appear impartial — I bet you wouldn’t be so upset if she would’ve endorsed Guiliani.
By DebbieDoRight
September 12, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this
I am not a Bushite as you label, but I recognize irresponsible behavior
Then you must abhor the behavior of the repuglican party, the behavior of Dumbya and Cheney, AND the behavior of Rumsfeld. Good For You!
By DebbieDoRight
September 12, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this
A modern libertarian is just a conflicted anarchist with a desire to be free to do whatever he wants to do while wanting the government to restrict those who might interfere
Great quote!!
By Political Foreskin
September 12, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this
Wooten is correct if you ignore his eggregious errors in style. You’ve got to read this one again: “You cant be a political operative one day, and avoid seeing the world from the perspective of a liberal candidate when the campaign ends.” Who would express that point in such a convoluted manner except someone hacking style over substance? (Grade school errors in sentence formation. why jimmey cant read. what is wrong with that child?).
HEY! Oprah supports Obama only to boost Katie Courek’s ratings. Imagine the chi you can create when you merge entertainment and news! It’s like the fed adding liquidity when the market is down 3% and when white folk asks nice-like with a proper respectin’….. “HELP!”.
By time for the harsh truth
September 12, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this
This obese/thin/obese/thin/obese food obsessed Oprah slapper is about as pathetic as it gets. Wooten asserts she aint succumbed to tabloidy trash … this is false. Winfrey’s highly emotional low brow smug touchy feely pandering CELEBUTARD driven drivel is about as vapid and tabloidy as it gets. This is the show where leftist ‘guests’ are never challenged about anything anti-GOP/Bush they puke up as they outnumber conservatives something like 10 -1.
Winfrey’s book club is about making money and entrenching her media power … the fact that some proles are so easily influenced by her tabloid teeveee pitch and so buy a few books they might not have done is not that big a deal. Winfrey also has a thinly veiled racial agenda, perfectly evinced by the likes of anti-white black racists/bigots like toni morrison who has often appeared on this occasionally bigoted show.
But it is Winfrey’s slavish unblinkered unremitting new age puke and its gushing refusal to EVER logically critique any new age bollocks, along with its incessant feminazi yapping that is the most repugnant thing about its little fiefdom.
The fact that it is endorsing Barak the worthless vapid big eared far left magic negro is hardly a surprise. Winfrey’s thinly veiled always leftist bigotry pushes a black agenda whenever it can, regardless of the real world consequences.
This sad pathetic often hysterical woman is a real clear and present danger to America, peddling worthless mush, endless Larry KKKIng like celebrity fawning and new age bollocks to the loyal few million (MOSTLY WIMMIN) mentally vulnerable retards that watch this sycophantic cult of Winfrey shiiite!! Although in fairness Winfrey is nothing like as bad as the thuggish murderous hippety hop/gangbanging black culture that so many tens of millions of blacks eagerly and sullenly embrace.
By getalife
September 12, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
Here is the only gop with a brain
By STFUTFTT
September 12, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
So, Oprah is a “sad, pathetic hysterical woman”?? TFTT, you are such a stupid shiiiiit.
By Peter
September 12, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
Well the Wrongs totally are funny today…….!!!!!!!
Looks like the religious RIGHT who like to preach on the weekends, then pillage during the week will be back in the Wrongs camp, but we won’t talk about that….
There is suppose to be a break between Politics and Religion in this country…….BUT King George really put an end to that!
Do you think they won’t use their clout, the money the stole from your little old Grandmother to help the other hypocrites?
Yes…. they are the closet GAY leaders, the guys in the bathroom stalls, and all the perverts that seem to like the Republican party.
HA HA HA……. I see we do not live in a Democracy as DEM DEM has pointed out…..why would we be in a made up WAR if this was wasn’t true ?
Heck it makes so much more sense to spend 600 Billion to blow up and occupy a 3rd world nation, than take care of silly stuff like……… US infrastructure, health care, US children, and Social Security.
Heck if Bush had his way he would spend all the Money with Dick’s buddies at Halliburton……. and since they moved from the US so they won’t have to give any money back in taxes…… I am sure Dick and the boys will be collecting the big bucks, once they are out of office.
The truly blessed thing about the WAR is King George, and the crew don’t have a clue as to how to make it better……. So they will walk away and allow the next person to clean up their mess.
As for the WRONGS that are worried about Oprah, why don’t you go back to work, make as much money as you can, than back your guy ?????
Seems that is the way it has always worked.
By getalife
September 12, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
Betrayus blew this one
Nuff said.
Geez.
By time to expose the black narcissistic bigot Winfrey
September 12, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
Winfrey is a bloated gushing shallow shamelessly fawning ‘black’ narcissistic love me love me dogturd.
Can’t be MORE honest, factual or pithy than that!!
By time to expose the black narcissistic bigot Winfrey
September 12, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
how jolly nice to see the execrable crackpipe debbieturd so easily wound up about the harsh unassailable truth about the puffy obese fawning love me love me bigot Winfrey. Cheers for hiding behind the usual cowardly whoralicious dumbarse id crackpipe … bleedin’ hilarious!!
getaturd’s despicable robotic treasonous cut and run cowardice needs rewarding with a 25 year stretch in the federal big house!!
By getalife
September 12, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this
“When former CIA officer Ray McGovern made the vocal suggestion — during a technical delay to fix Gen. David Petraeus’ microphone — that the witness be sworn in, McGovern was forced to leave the hearing room.”
The Moveon ad they whined about was dead right.
Time to flush the toilet,
There is a huge slimey, limy turd stinking up the blog.
By deegee
September 12, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
The Wootang gang is just a little miffed because Elisabeth Hasselback doesn’t get the ratings that Oprah gets. Maybe if Elisabeth could stage a bloodless coup and depose the maven Barbara she could shine the conservative light into the world of daytime talk. Well, that’s not gonna happen. Just deal with it Wootang.
By timetoprayforthesicko
September 12, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this
what a sad, sad little wee-wee man you are. i have watched you denigrate yourself day and night for the crumbs that fall from the KKKs table while licking the sh#t out of their azz’s for the past couple of days here on this blog. it saddens me to see another human being(?) act this way. why not just pick up the cloak and the cross and come out of the closet little man? we get it. you hate anything black with money. you hate hipppityhops because they make more money in 20 minutes than you’ve made in a year. you hate oprah because shes female,rich, black and could care less about your pitiful azz.
it must be so lonely in your sad little wee-wee world.
i will pray for you, “lord please help this closet, sex obssessed, hatefull, bad teeth, little weenie man to become a better person. this man needs your guidance, your help, and lots of years of therapy. intensive therapy. amen.”
By time to expose the black narcissistic bigot Winfrey
September 12, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this
time to slice and dice the slimy TREASONOUS illegal leech getaturd!!
BTW … “Limey” has an ‘e’ you illiterate snivelling retarded pinKKKo commie feckwipe!!
TIME TO BOMB moveyourbowels.org
bet the grasping foreign exchange speculator (who intellectually honest far lefties would utterly despise) G herpesSOREos would love that … bombed into meaningless oblivion by Bush!!!
By TurnAbout
September 12, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this
But it’s OK for preachers to proslytize and politicize from the pulpit every Sunday, huh Jim? Oprah….you go girl!!!!
By WhyisTFTTsoF'inRaciallyStupid
September 12, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this
Ever notice how EVERY black man or woman is considered racist by the Larry Craig lovin’ Turd For The Truth?
By time to expose the black narcissistic bigot Winfrey
September 12, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this
what a magicKKKal spiffing hissy fit!!! @ 12.00pm
one of the very best ever!!
cheers for that ribtickling unhinged bollocks U turdmunching paraplegic headupyourleperosyriddenarse slimy yanKKKee foetus!!
I utterly despise racist/sexist/criminal/thuggish gangsta wannabe hippety hop SCUM simply because of what they are!!
just one example … a (C)rap by Jadakiss and Mos Def.
JADAKISS: Bin Laden didn’t blow up the projects. It was you, (n igger). Tell the truth, (n igger).
MOS DEF: Bush knocked down the towers.
JADAKISS: Tell the truth, (n igger).
MOS DEF: Bush knocked down the towers.
JADAKISS: Tell the truth, (BLEEP).
Bin Laden didn’t blow up the projects. It was you, (BLEEP). Tell the truth, (BLEEP).
MOS DEF: Bush knocked down the towers.
JADAKISS: Tell the truth, (BLEEP).
MOS DEF: Bush knocked down the towers.
At least these KNUCKLE DRAGGING sick and twisted scum admit that they are (BLEEPs)!!!
not only are these two USAF targets sullen paranoid lying hippety hop traitors they are thicker than even the average code pinKKKO pigsh!t!!
I made my factual unassailable points about the obese/thin/obese/thin/obese Winfrey earlier. It is a shameless narcissist that demands unremitting sycophancy, it is a vapid new age nutter and it’s thinly veiled racial agenda - allowing virulent black racists like morrison, NOT JIM of The Doors of course moron, to puke up their hate on live TV and support of a big eared supercilious abject far left moron whose ONLY reason to be a candidate is that its half black - is despicable.
now GFY - try using a cluster bomb for best effect … huge I proudly despise liberal scum smirk
By jbmlaw
September 12, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this
Dear MidSouth @ 10:26, although I thought your argument well posited, I respectfully disagree with your core belief, “However, the dominant factor as to Georgie Bush’s legacy may very well be the answer to one question. ‘Did George W. Bush succeed in capturing or killing Usama bin-Laden?’” My guess is that the failure to capture the ghost of OBL will take the same significance as Woodrow Wilson’s failure to capture Pancho Villa. If OBL succeeds in another strike during or shortly after the Bush administration, Bush may suffer the same non-sexual legacy as President Clinton the first.
We’ll meet here in 75 years to see who was right.
By time to expose the black narcissistic bigot Winfrey
September 12, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this
I note with glleeful pleasure the usual rabid lies of the yanKKKee racebaiting filth on here!!
There are many decent highly educated black folks who are not in the least “racist” … a few being
Larry Elder, Niger and Roger Innis, the folks at Project 21, Walter Williams, Ward Connerly, Jesse Peterson, Juliette Ochieng, Justice Thomas, Thomas Sowell, Michael Steele etc
By Curious Observer
September 12, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this
I love it! Polling shows that the entry of Fred Thompson into the GOP race means that no candidate gets more than 30 percent of the Republican vote, foreshadowing a shootout at the Repuglican Convention after about ten ballots and the selection of a candidate who will cause at least half of GOP voters to stay home on election day.
Poetic justice is sweet!
By Zman
September 12, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
Republicans don’t stand a chance in the 08 election because of one factor. The right wing.
By No Laughing Matter
September 12, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this
Comparing Pancho Villa to Osama Bin Laden? The dumbing down of the Bushies continues apace. Methinks the excuses are getting a little “out there”.
By timetoprayforthesicko
September 12, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
since you love to bring up all the “race” reports in america, i’m sure suprised you forgot this one. i guess its because it was a bunch of whiteracistscum who tortured some black person. for you, the below article is probably your biggest fantasy come true. this is what people like you want, just one big race war…..
Hate crime probe in weeklong torture of woman
BIG CREEK, W.Va. (AP) — Inside a shed on a remote hillside of this coalfield community, authorities say a young black woman was tortured for days, sexually assaulted, beaten and forced to eat rat droppings.
Her captors, all of them white, choked her with a cable cord and stabbed her in the leg while calling her a racial slur, poured hot water over her and made her drink from a toilet, according to criminal complaints.
By stuffedshirt
September 12, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
save the ajc, fire wooten now
By stuffedshirt
September 12, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this
hey fat cats, your dollars are becoming worthless on world markets. what will you use to get oil when your freshly printed green paper is not good enough? ha ha ha
By geforced77
September 12, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this
“save the ajc, fire wooten now” -
Bwahahahaha! One right winger in a 2nd-tier newsrag infested with liberals and Jim Wooten is the one bringing it down? That’s drop dead hilarious! Subscriptions are down because nobody OTP in the ‘burbs wants to read a bunch of liberal claptrap. Why pay for a bunch of NYT retreads?
While on the subject of Democrats, Kucinich is the only Democrat to vote against the House’s Sept. 11 commemoration resolution. That must be what the libs call a true patriot. Rather amazing how only Fox News reported that story. No, it’s really not that amazing. That goofball has truly lost his mind.
By geforced77
September 12, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this
“save the ajc, fire wooten now” - stuffedpants
That’s a lib’s idea of freedom of speech and diversity for you. Just close your eyes, plug your ears, and go “nananananaana I can’t hear you nanananananananananaana” every time you see, read, or hear something you don’t agree with. Big overgrown babies.
By getalife
September 12, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this
gedforced77,
It is down because you can read it free here, you freakin idiot.
They make money on advertising moron.
Jim should of retired many moons ago but they keep around for idiots like you. Geez.
By DebbieDoRight
September 12, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this
My guess is that the failure to capture the ghost of OBL will take the same significance as Woodrow Wilson’s failure to capture Pancho Villa
Pancho VILLA!!!!! LMAO!! Pancho Villa!!!! Your credibility, jbmlaw, has just taken another beating!!! hahaha!
By jbmlaw
September 12, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
That Pancho Villa reference was not written by me, but by an imposter.
By getalife
September 12, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this
Debbie,
Their new excuse is it took 5 years to get Eric, the wingnut terrorist.
Geez.
By DebbieDoRight
September 12, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this
Twisted Sister, I have no wish to speak with dogs. However, I do have something for you, click on the link to see a move that’s being made about you. It’s called the Fairy GodFather:
http://www.killsometime.com/animations/animation.asp?ID=125
By No Laughing Matter
September 12, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this
I would hope so. The imposter probably heard it from Rush or Sean, though. Sorry for the crack.
By Again with the facts for TFTT
September 12, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this
TFTHT said “This is the show where leftist ‘guests’ are never challenged about anything anti-GOP/Bush they puke up as they outnumber conservatives something like 10 -1.”
Actually, in the 2000 election, GWB was behind Gore in the polls and only pulled ahead AFTER he was given a warm welcome on Oprah.
By An imposter
September 12, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this
Just kidding. That really was jbmlaw. I guess. I mean, how can one really know?
By JohnD
September 12, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
DDR,
Actually you are one of the irresponsible people to which I referred. As most of the liberals here you rant and rave, demand for the troops to leave Iraq but never give even short shrift to what will result.
From December of 2000 liberals in the US have cried foul, attempted to undermine the administration, and then after the initial phase in Iraq carried on a campaign to lose the war. Why? Purely for political gain!
Some of your liberal compatriots have asked who is terrorism? Where is this country and why are we at war with a country called terrorism? Uninformd rhetoric but typical of the bleeting from liberals for almost 7 years.
Tom Brokaw, you know him, the rabid, conseervative former anchor for NBC News, must have proclaimed ten times a war with terrorism had begun on the NBC broadcast on the morning of 9/11/01.
War proclaimed by a liberal well before any politician made the same charge. Oh well, liberals change their spots faster than any other animal, as we have seen here and in Congress.
By time to expose the black narcissistic bigot Winfrey
September 12, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
I have no wish to speak with dogs
given that you’re a very nasty black b itch that must be rather difficult for your b itchy racist arse crackpipe!!! WOOOF WOOOF!!
@ the snivelling yellowbellied LYING racebaiting maggot gutlessly STILL hiding behind a wholly self descriptive id @ 12.54
I saw this sickening story on FoxNews.com yesterday. These despicable white trash scum deserve several decades in jail for this!! Hopefully their punishment will be the maximum the law allows!! Targeting ordinary folks purely because of their skin colour (as in this instance) is utterly repugnant. Whilst I detest the wholly arbitrary vile political correctness of leftist imposed so called “hate crimes” … as this is just more leftist pandering bigotry because such odious crimes are invariably easily dealt with by existing laws regarding violenc e/kidnapping/sexual abuse/murder etc … this poor young woman needs to see very harsh justice meted out to these white trash scum … undoubtedly these criminals are close kin of the likes of getaturd, incred rednekkk and rednekkks NAMBLA!!!
By time to expose the black narcissistic bigot Winfrey
September 12, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this
@ again the lying leftist scum!!
Winfrey’s show did NOT “win/lose” the election for the lying eco nutter alBore. Only an abject surrender monkey MoRoN would ascribe Winfrey’s show - watched by barely a few million mostly braindamaged sycophantic housewives and welfare leeches etc - as having that kind of electoral significance.
As typical of prolish sullen leftist liars you again missed the point. Winfrey’s noxious love me love me puke fest is invariably a sycophantic drooling/gushing self serving event that invariably NEVER challenges the 10-1 guest list of lefties on their Bush derangement syndrome, eco whacko lies/distortions etc. Your pitifully imbecilic point as expected didn’t even begin to address that unassailable fact!!
By Blog Police
September 12, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this
Pay no attention to TFTT or any posts made by TFTT. To do otherwise will just encourage him to continue with more inane rantings. Ignore the nutcase, or face the consequences.
By Huh?
September 12, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
Don’t you mean TTETBNGW?
By No Laughing Matter
September 12, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
That’s true. It did sound like jbmlaw, inane and pompously obscure.
By Jack
September 12, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this
TFTT is the most entertaining poster on the blog. Keep up the good work T. Oprah is more pious than Dr. Laura. Both should be ignored.
By Carry Lraig
September 12, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
OK, I’m sitting down. I’m tapping my foot. Any takers? TFTT?
By time to expose the black narcissistic bigot Winfrey
September 12, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
Jack
you are a very discerning scholar and a gentleman sir! one of the best posts of the year thus far :)
I fully agree about Dr Laura … a shrill nag if there ever was one … must have gone to the same ‘shrewish empowerment’ school for mouthy brainless b itches that crackpipe debbieturd and the anglo hating racist heebeedeegee got the racist quota feds to pay for!!
By In Search of Intelligent Life
September 12, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this
While I understand that the AJC doesn’t quite measure up to plenty of major newspapers from around the world in its journalistic efforts, most notably by relying on readers to supply the bulk of the online content, I feel compelled to note that the low level of discourse here by some is really discouraging for those of us who really want for people in Atlanta and Georgia to be taken seriously. Obviously, there are some smart readers and posters on here of all political stripes and views, but those who insist on forcing their ignorant, provincial, and intellectually stunted posts only give credence to the false stereotype that southerners are filled with hate and lacking in intelligence. So, for those of you bringing the rest of us down (and you know who you are!!) try to take it up a notch and say something smart, or at least witty. As they say, water finds its own level. Try raising yours.
By Dennis
September 12, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten writes, “As an Oprah admirer, the news that she’s venturing prominently into the partisan arena is tremendously disappointing. Her advocacy for Obama will do less to help him win the White House than it will to raise questions about future causes and issues she decides to take on.”
Ah, Mr. Wooten, that’s wishful thinking. You neocons would prostrate yourselves eight times a day to the East if you had Oprah’s endorsement.
As to Cronkite, he would make you a good mentor.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignornant one to deny it.
By DebbieDoRight
September 12, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this
DDR, Actually you are one of the irresponsible people to which I referred. As most of the liberals here you rant and rave, demand for the troops to leave Iraq but never give even short shrift to what will result
JOHND: Do you have any family and/or friends in Iraq OR Afghanistan? Well I do. And I can “rant and rave” and “demand for the troops to leave” all I want, because I have, something that perhaps you, definitely Dumbya, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Saxby and 98% of the Congress and Senate DOES NOT have — a LOVED ONE who is actually doing the fighting in this farce of a war.
Until your leaders have something to loose, other than profit, until people like you War Mongers actually ENLIST and help fight this war you love so much, and until people like you War Mongers can feel the pain of war up close and personal; then, basically you have nothing to say to me.
Enjoy the rest of your afternoon.
By DebbieDoRight
September 12, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this
Another Twisted Home Movie:
http://www.killsometime.com/video/video.asp?ID=988
PS: He’s the guy on the toilet; the one coming in to scare him is his daddy.
By WTF
September 12, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this
Jim, what about Arnold Schwarzenegger? And Fred Thompson? And Ronald Reagan? Or are only Republicans and/or conservative entertainers allowed to express their political views without being a nuisance to you?
By DebbieDoRight
September 12, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
More Twisted Family Home Movies!! Guess which one is Twisted! (Here’s a hint; he’s the one that looks like a dog).
http://www.killsometime.com/video/video.asp?ID=349
By HereNorThere
September 12, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this
What is a conservative? When the national debt is 9 trillion dollars and 70% of it was racked up under Reagan,Bush, and Bush, are they considered conservatives? For that matter are any of these so called “conservatives” really conservative? They spend like drunken sailors, love foreign, adventures, and just have to know every little detail of everyone’s personal life. Is that conservative?
By time to expose the black narcissistic bigot Winfrey
September 12, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
watching the execrable dogturd crackpipe debbie literally waste hours of its worthless pointless existence surfing to try and find supposedly abusive web sites to try and sneer at me with is very nearly freaking hilarious. As I never bother to click on your puerile links crackpipe your sullen ebonics like efforts are wasted … hope all this energy aint making ya too tired to give true value for money for your 50 cent tricks with the illegal leech day labourers outside the Home Depot. YOU GO GIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRL!!!
huge I hate black racist b itches smirk
By MeasureUp
September 12, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this
JOHND, JOHND, Calling JOHND.
YOUR family members in harm’s way, please.
By RCH
September 12, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
Debbiedoright
Even though I can understand your loss, my father served once in Korea and twice in Vietnam, you will be hard pressed to argue only military service allows you to weigh in on military decisions. If the Vietnam war had raged longer, Bush the pilot would have had a sure ticket to that battle. And if your statement holds true it would be virtually impossible to have any women as president, congressman Senator due to the lack of military combat experience.
P.S. Leaving to Germany in Nov.,put your order in now. LOL
By No Laughing Matter
September 12, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
I know this is a little late, but JohnD, are you saying that we are losing this war because of the Democrats? Becaus if you are, you need to take another look. Take a peek at how this administration has botched the war and more importantly, the occupation. Pointing out this administration’s failures is not a “campaign to lose the war”. It is exactly the opposite. Even Petraeus and Crocker testified as to how the surge helped rectify the mistakes that had been made for years. If the Democrats had not forced the administration to come up with a new strategy, we would still be in the same mess we were in before the surge. This administration is to blame for its failures, not the Democrats.
By No Laughing Matter
September 12, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this
Bush was in the National Guard from 1968 until 1972, when he apparently went AWOL right under everyone’s noses. He wasn’t headed to Vietnam any more than I was, and I was only 12 in 1972. He gave up his pilot’s status by not taking his required physical in 1972 and never flew again. He wasn’t heading anywhere. Your posts might have more credibility if they didn’t contain such absurd lies.
By jm
September 12, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this
Interesting that Mr. Wooten chose Walter Cronkite, rather than the much earlier crusade of Edward R. Murrow against Senator Joe McCarthy. Maybe he still blames Uncle Walter for losing Vietnam. Sorry Mr. Wooten, but the Vietnam war was lost when the people in the south started admiring Ho Chi Minh more than their own (somewhat corrupt) leaders.
As for causes with hidden agendas, W the incompetent opened that can of worms wide open with his “Faith Based Initiatives”. While many of them do a great deal of good, I have difficulty seeing my tax dollars go to support their programs since I don’t know what other programs (such as evangelization) they might also be providing.
By DebbieDoRight
September 12, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
RCH: There are women combat veterans at Walter Reed with lost limbs right now. There are women veterans who suffer from PTSD; AND an Lt Tammy Duckworth an Iraq Veteran who lost both her legs in Iraq was one of the “new” democrats who ran for Congress in the 2006 elections in her home state.
So what you’re talking about is nonsense. Women DO, HAVE, and CONTINUE to go to combat — they may not be on the front lines; but they are in combat.
Secondly, I didn’t ask him if he served, I asked him if he had any loved ones in the war. Only 3 members of Congress, (who voted for the Iraq War), actually had a family member who was in the military at the time. THREE.
And as for the rah rah, shoot-em-up, War Mongers on this board who love to spout off their views; how many active duty servicemembers still support this war?
This was published in the Marine Corps Times:
Because service members are prohibited from petitioning Congress — the call for an immediate end to U.S. military operations in Iraq will be turned over to the clerk of the House of Representatives and published in the Congressional Record so it can be read by all members of Congress.
The letter contains just three sentences: “As a patriotic American proud to serve the nation in uniform, I respectfully urge my political leaders in Congress to support the prompt withdrawal of all American military forces and bases from Iraq. Staying in Iraq will not work and is not worth the price. It is time for U.S. troops to come home.”
“We urge Congress to listen to its active-duty troops and veterans,” said Marine Sgt. Liam Madden, one of the organizers, who urged Congress to stop funding the war because troops “are dying while our politicians are squabbling.”
California Army National Guard Sgt. Jabbar Magruder, who also came to Washington to deliver the letter, said the drawn-out conflict is taking its toll on troops, their families and the employers of mobilized Guard and reserve members. “Families take the brunt of it,” Magruder said, complaining that the new plan announced Jan. 10 by President Bush does away with the previous promise that reservists would be mobilized just once every five years. “That has gone up in smoke,” he said.
WHY WASN’T THIS BIT OF NEWS IN THE AJC? Liberal Press? HA! There is NO SUCH THING as the “liberal Press” just more Rove spins and lies.
By 'lil Obama
September 12, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
“I know this is a little late, but JohnD, are you saying that we are losing this war because of the Democrats? Becaus if you are, you need to take another look. Take a peek at how this administration has botched the war”
Hey No Laughing Matter - you have a point - to a degree. Now with that said, are you telling everyone that Democrats are doing anything to HELP the situation? That’s laughable. They appointed a highly decorated military commander to assess and report on the situation in Iraq. He comes back with information that gives them diarrhea of the mouth and brain, and then they throw him under the bus and cheer when the kook fringe left calls him Betrayus. Yes, this is the same group of cretins who crapped cement and had a meltdown when other military people like Murtha were raked over the coals by Republicans and said his patriotism was being attacked. The twisted hypocrites!
For the record, those Daily Kos idiots who made fun of The General not knowing if this nation is safer, well morons, he’s a military field commander, not a domestic politician or government security analyst. It’s not his JOB to know security matters in the States. They can’t even let that go. How pathetic!
By DebbieDoRight
September 12, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
RCH: I’m going to Berlin in January for my sister-in-law’s grand opening of her new shop. I can pick some stuff up then, (Read that as shopping, shopping, SHOPPING for LOTS and LOTS of stuff that I really don’t need but will HAVE to have while I’m there because I’ll be the only one in Georgia with it and I’ll need another suitcase to carry it all back, yippeeee!!!), but thanks anyway!
By Dusty
September 12, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this
No laughing matter,@4:13
The Democrats have never made George W. Bush do anything. The only thing Dems have done is get in the way, block every effort at improvement or success, spread ignominious propaganda(lies) and present billion dollar tax payer projects and urge a “surge” in taxes.
They have even forgotten that Americans support their country during wartime. Yep, and Dems voted to go to war just like everybody else.
Yesterday, Dems in Congress displayed their total lack of support for American military in the person of Gen. Petraeus. It was a shameful display of disloyalty. Americans everywhere must have cringed when Democrats acted like they were quizzing criminals instead of our most outstanding and successful general.
What is it with you people? Are you blinded by hate? Your behavior is cowardly, deceitful and riddled with polical vengence.
If this war is lost, the blame will go directly to Democrats who have fought against winning at every turn. Don’t try to fool yourself or anybody else. You Democratic roadblockers have been doing it so long nobody can miss yet another Democratic debacle in the making.
By DebbieDoRight
September 12, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this
He’s a military field commander who knows how to follow orders from his Commander in Chief. Enough Said.
By Curious Observer
September 12, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this
What nonsense! If you really think that individuals in the general officer ranks are selected without regard to political beliefs of the candidates, you are hopelessly naive or terminally stupid. You can bet that GWB will never select a Democrat as a four-star field commander, nor as a nominee to the Joint Chiefs. Ditto for the chances of a Democratic president’s selection of a Republican. Petraeus may be a very competent four-star general, but to assert or imply that he is divorced from the political processes is the height of stupidity.
By Sick Willie
September 12, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this
HA! There is NO SUCH THING as the “liberal Press” just more Rove spins and lies.
Debbie, did you get the memo that Rove resigned? Goodness girl. That Republican derangement thang has robbed you of something upstairs that you need. A mind is a terrible thing, but I’d love to share a cigar with you anytime, kitten.
By 'lil Obama
September 12, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this
Well said Dusty. Amen! Stick it right in their eye and twist.
By AmVet
September 12, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this
There is one silver lining to the tawdry Sen. Craig affair.
Since Wide Stance’s problems earlier this year, bathroom arrests for sexual solicitation are way down!
Thank you Idaho!
By MeasureUp
September 12, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this
Why, I apologize.
It appears JOHND has run off to enlist and could not get back with us.
By Dusty
September 12, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this
There are only three US Congressmen who have family in the military?
A Congressman from South Carolina was on Lehrer Newshour last night and he has four sons in the military and he’s a veteran. Of course, he is also a Republican.
Strange, isn’t it. Liberals only know service people who don’t like the military. Yet we often read reports and letter from soldiers who know exactly why they are serving in Iraq and want success. I guess a loser can always find another one.
By DebbieDoRight
September 12, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this
What is it with you people? Are you blinded by hate? Your behavior is cowardly, deceitful and riddled with polical vengence.
So speaks the Lady with HATE tattooed on her forehead. Who calls the registered Democrats fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan COWARDS because they don’t want to hear anymore of Dumbya’s LIES. Who sets her self up as the JUDGE of all things “Patriotic”; but can’t get her Patriotic self to a local Veterans Hospital or the local USO to volunteer.
Her “patriotism” and “support” stops at her keyboard.
Below is a link to some REAL patriots, (whom you’ve labeled some as cowards), click on it; you need some sort of reference to what you “say” you are “supporting”.
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/coffin_photos/dover/
PS: Your president doesn’t want Americans to see these pictures; he afraid we might become “depressed”.
By 'lil Obama
September 12, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this
“to assert or imply that he is divorced from the political processes is the height of stupidity.”
With all due respect Observer, to assert that a military commander would risk COOKING THE BOOKS to make a final report analysis look good is not only dead wrong, it’s down right pathetic.
By Jackie
September 12, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this
Now that Dubya has publicly stated that he would support Gen. Petraeus’s plan for withdrawl of troops from Iraq, will the neo-cons label Dubya “cut-and-run?” You have people trying to pass the blame with the failure of this occupation and illegal war onto someone else, namely the Democrats, and call those of us who oppose this illegal venture cowards and unpatriotic. What planet did these people just arrive from? The Gen. Petraeus dog-and-pony show was political theater. Do these folks forget that Petraeus said this surge and war was a three-legged stool and the Iraqi government came up with 18 benchmarks THAT THEY WOULD MEET, yet, these Bush supporters try to hang those lies around the necks of those of us who disagree with Bush. Revisionist history is hard to accomplish when you have many media outlets where one can find the words used by those who perpetuated this unconstitutional and illegal war. Someone please point out where Petraeus and Bush and NOT BEING disingenious.
By DebbieDoRight
September 12, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this
Debbie, did you get the memo that Rove resigned
The article was published in 2003; Rove just resigned this year. STILL his legacy will live on until we can get the exterminator in and clean out the droppings he left behind.
Doggie: Can you read I said only three Congressmembers had family members in the military who voted for the Iraq War.
Also, can you count, you only named ONE congressman. Duh.
By Reality For Dummies
September 12, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this
It’s been what, 27 hours or so since Petraeus’ report has been released. Now, how many Dems have taken it apart piece by piece and pointed out lies or doctored up numbers yet?
[chirp] [chirp] [chirp] [chirp] [chirp]
By DebbieDoRight
September 12, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
Strange isn’t it how repuglicans can all talk about how much they want this war; but not many of them can actually take time out of their busy blogging day to support the troops or their families.
PS: The yellow ribbon on your SUVs and blogging doesn’t count as “support”. Those two items are called “lazy and apathetic” and want someone else to do your dirty work for you.
By @@
September 12, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this
Well dangit Jim, I’m disappointed. I never have an occasion to watch Oprah, but I’m aware of her humanitarian efforts, and for those, she is to be commended.
Getting into bed with a politician won’t leave her with an afterglow, that’s for sure.
She’s probably assuming that her fans will follow her lead but what she doesn’t realize is that she’s strictly an entertainer. When celebrities begin to espouse their political preferences openly, they lose fans….it muddies up the waters.
Too bad. She should have stuck to her humanitarian efforts. People can get behind those, but you can’t connect them to politicians.
By Dusty
September 12, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this
Hmm, all those Democrats fighting in the military better come home and run for Congress. There are almost no Democrats there who appreciate the efforts of our military.
Nope, I don’t run up to Walter Reed and try to stir up families against the government as is often done by anti-war protestors. Nor do I go to the USO and tell soldiers they are fighting for nothing. Nope, I support the military in all the ways that count, like telling them they are fighting for us at home and I appreciate it. It is amazing how they like that so much more than protests against them.
By TW
September 12, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this
DDR - You must understand that these Republicans were picked on severely when they were in school. Don’t fault them too much for living vicariously through those who do the real fighting.
By Jackie
September 12, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this
Just a thought. Gen Petraeus works for Dubya and Dubya said he was going to follow the the recommendations of the General. When the General was asked what he thought it would take to “win” the war and if the war was making this country safer, he answered the question with a “frankly, I don’t know.”
By Aquagirl
September 12, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this
What happened to the real military guy who was Bush’s first Secretary of State? Oh, gee, didn’t toe the line enough. Proof that being a general who doesn’t kiss Bush bootie gets you yanked from the stage. Nothing against Petraeus, he’s just doing the job that Bush knows he will do without independent thought.
Dusty, you’re just another keyboard warrior. Dime a dozen. yawn Keep calling guys like Kevin Tillman cut-n-runners. It really points out what a sad case you are. Go watch Faux news and wash your brain out some more.
By Jackie
September 12, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this
@Dusty,
Innuendo and half-truths about those of who do not support the war as being unpatriotic and non-supportive of the military is as baseless and low as one can get. All you offer is “lip service”, no “hip service.” You do not volunteer; you do not offer help in any other way except to “speak” of your “support.” Don’t you think you should offer something concrete and substantial in your support efforts other than “lip service?”
By TTFT
September 12, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this
Dusty is a genuine certified bonafied lard azz bsing fraud. She doesn’t have the first clue as to what true patriotism consists of.
By Dusty
September 12, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this
Poor AquaGirl, 5:32
Blowing little water bubbles again. I have never called Kevin Tillman a cut’n’runner. Maybe distraught over the death of his brother but that is to be expected.
Too bad you have to dig up the sorrowing families of dead soldiers just to whine against conservatives.
By Repeat after me
September 12, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this
Democrats approved of Petraeus. Democrats approved of Petraeus.
TW: You must understand that these Republicans were picked on severely when they were in school.
I always thought it was the other way around. You pansie liberals are always the ones against fighting. Many if not most of you liberals had bad experiences growing up like being too skinny, too short, too fat, come from a broken family, etc. That’s why you liberals live breathe and excrete diversity and fairness for all at all cost and that’s why you liberals are always miserable and looking for the perfect utopian society. That’s also why you liberals always say war and fighting is bad. Pansies.
By Dusty
September 12, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this
Ah, Jackie tunes in.
Anti-war protestors support the military???? Since when?
I guess you are down town kissing all the boys and girls in uniform goodbye with love and protest signs?
You better check your own support of the military instead of trying to tell everybody else what to do. You know. MYOB.
By Root Out The Enemy
September 12, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this
“Dusty, you’re just another keyboard warrior. Dime a dozen. yawn” Yet Aquafishead, you and your lib pals here continue to respond to them, don’t you? Yep. Sorry, I’m not impressed enough to be scared away from the likes of you limpnoodled lightweights on the loon left.
By Political Foreskin
September 12, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this
The great thing about being a liberal is that there is no such thing. Thus any slings and arrows about liberals fall harmlessly nowhere near our achilles tendon nor tender groin area. The fact is that people are liberal on some issues, and conservative on other issues, depending on how much government cheese they’ve managed to swindle the agencies out of.
The problem with being a conservative is that they take a wider stance on the foreign policy debate than anyone else. If you’re gay and you know it tap your foot, (tap tap). If your’re gay and you know it tap your foot, (tap tap), if you’re gay and you know it and you really want to show it, if you’re gay and you know it tap your foot, (tap tap)
What a bunch of easily set up fall guys! I love it!
This stuff writes itself. (tap tap)
bwa
By Jackie
September 12, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this
@Dusty,
You need to join the military and see what it is to be in that situation. I truly believe you don’t have the nerve. Provide some “hip service”, i.e., take it on down and raise your right hand. They need all the personnel they can get. As a reminder, the tough questions presented to Petraeus was from Republicans, Haeger and Lugar. Do you see that? I am not trying to get in you “business”, just trying to get you to get out of the business where you are an impediment to ending this carnage. Now, your business is my business because I have family members who are active duty military.
By 'lil Obama
September 12, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this
WASHINGTON (AP) - Senate Democratic leaders on Wednesday rejected the call by the top U.S. general in Iraq to send 30,000 U.S. troops home by next summer, saying it does not go far enough.
“This is unacceptable to me, it’s unacceptable to the American people,” said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.
Reid said the recommendation by Gen. David Petraeus, expected to be embraced by President Bush in a speech to the nation on Thursday, “is neither a drawdown or a change in mission that we need. His plan is just more of the same.”
While we are on the subject of politicians and military service, I want one liberal on this blog to detail for me how Harry Reid is more of a military expert and knows what’s best over that of General Petreaus. JUST ONE.
“When the General was asked what he thought it would take to “win” the war and if the war was making this country safer, he answered the question with a “frankly, I don’t know.””
Jackie, read my 4:51 for the answer to your obvious insanity and stupidity..even for a liberal.
By 'lil Obama
September 12, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this
By Political Foreskin
September 12, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this
The great thing about being a liberal is that there is no such thing.
HAHAHAHA!!! Thanks for the laugh, Political Afterthought! You needle di-cks are so deranged you don’t even know what the hell you are! HAHAHAHA!! Stupid potheads.
By Political Foreskin
September 12, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this
lil obama, you have suggested the crux of the Iraq quagmire: that Reid sounds just as confused and baseless as Patraeus does in describing the reality on the ground in Iraq.
One’s a civilian, the other has fruit salad galore on his chest.
And you’ve got the beat. (you’ve got it!)
By 'lil Obama
September 12, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this
“Reid sounds just as confused and baseless as Patraeus does in describing the reality on the ground in Iraq.”
Oh, are you over there on the ground, Political Afterthought? And Political Afterthought, I have a high confidence rate that idiot liberals like you would have said Petreaus was a Bush bot if he said the surge was NOT working and we need to give up. Tell me I’m wrong, liberal jackass.
By Reality For Dummies
September 12, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this
It’s been what, 28 hours or so since Petraeus’ report has been released. Now, how many Dems have taken it apart piece by piece and pointed out lies or doctored up numbers yet?
[chirp] [chirp] [chirp] [chirp] [chirp]
By Political Foreskin
September 12, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this
However, lil obama, if you were ever to post these words, “Those people who weigh the pros and cons of issues and end up stradling athwart the political spectrum because they’ve participated in the debate are no good, dirty, lyin’ terrorist abettin’ scumquats,” Well, lil obama, if you ever did blog so ferociously as I have suggested you might, well, I know there are few here who would ever survive it and never post again. You would have surmised our quorum and annihilated our caucus, and no political platform could withstand such a juggernaut of rapier wit.
So please dont blog those words, sir.
By JohnD
September 13, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this
DebbieAlwaysDoesWrong,
You are still, even after your disjointed rant, still one of the irresponsible left loons.
Yes, I have friends and relatives in the military but what that fact has to do with recognizing the US responsibility in Iraq is lost on me.
Is the mantra of liberalism “All that is good for me and my family regardless of the consequences”?
Debbie, you are a one trick pony - Conservatives are bad! Well, read the quotes of your Dem brethren during the Clinton years. All were saying the same things as the Republicans in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. Just another “inconvenient truth” for you and your loon friends.
“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.” A quote from Thomas Jefferson I believe.
Do you and your socialist friends even understand the meaning of his words?