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DEL.ICIO.USRomney offers snapshot of success for GOP
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
For conservatives the first seven months of Democratic rule in Congress have been traumatic reminders that eight years is not enough. It’s time enough to expand government, but a fraction of the time needed to alter the expansionist course.
Next year’s presidential election, therefore, is crucial. A White House and Congress controlled by a Clinton-Obama, Pelosi-Reid tandem is a conservative’s worst nightmare.
Lock in a U.S. Supreme Court majority at 5-4, given the near certainty that at least one vacancy will occur over the next four years, and any frivolous thoughts about sitting out the election, opting for a third party or choosing a candidate on any basis other than principles and electability should be discarded now. The stakes are too high to be distracted by matters unlikely to affect a president’s policies and decisions — his personal religious beliefs, for example.
While former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was in Atlanta last week, he and I met. I asked about how a conservative president can be effective with a Congress that may very well be controlled by Democrats.
In Massachusetts, Romney confronted precisely the legislative obstacles he’d face with a Pelosi-Reid Congress. And yet, the tax-cutting policy group, Club for Growth in Washington, concludes that his fiscal record there is “more positive than negative, especially when one considers that average spending increased only 2.22 percent over his four years, well below the population plus inflation benchmark of nearly 3 percent.”
One advantage he had that the president does not is line-item veto authority. “To his credit,” Club for Growth observes, “Romney attempted to cut down on government spending by streamlining many duplicative and wasteful elements” of government, though “some of his more ambitious proposals were rejected by his uber-liberal Legislature.”
“In my state” said Romney, “even though I had the line-item veto, in some respects it was a relative weak tool because my Legislature was 85 percent Democrat. And, therefore, anything I vetoed could routinely be over-ridden.
“I recognized very quickly some lessons that I think are very helpful even in a setting where you have the majority in the Legislature. And that is: Number One, you don’t attack your opposition on a personal basis; you maintain personal respect and build relationships of friendship and trust. Number Two, you look for common ground. …
“In our case, we did that in health care where we all agreed it would be a good thing for everybody to have health insurance. I didn’t want government to provide it and they were willing to accept my plan to get people insured with private insurance. And so we found common ground. And they didn’t advance there.
“On something like taxes, the first year I came in we had almost a $3 billion shortfall, and the Democrats thought they had to raise taxes. I said, ‘No, let me take a whack at it, in effect. Let me show you how we can cut $3 billion without having to raise taxes.’ And they ultimately adopted much of what I proposed. We did not raise taxes.
“And, Number Three, where you can’t [find common ground], don’t get angry about it, but try and go to the people.” An example, he says, is a $250 million retroactive tax on capital gains the Legislature approved. “I know I can’t have my veto upheld easily,” he says. Romney directed his Department of Revenue to send tax bills to those affected. The resulting uproar helped Romney persuade the Legislature to reverse course, leading to a rebate in 2002 of retroactive capital gains collected. “There are ways of working in a setting where you are greatly outnumbered.”
The domestic challenge for the next president are to build a conservative majority on the Supreme Court and to protect President Bush’s 2003 tax cuts while checking a possible Democratic majority’s temptation to expand the reach of the federal government. In Massachusetts, Club for Growth continues, Romney “demonstrated a willingness to take on his Legislature and deserves credit for the many pro-growth measures he advocated and the modest reform he was able to achieve.”
After seven months of this Congress, even “modest reform” is appealing.
• Jim Wooten is associate editor of the editorial page. His column appears Sundays, Tuesdays and Fridays.
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By BlogFather
September 1, 2007 8:20 AM | Link to this
In spite of feeling endangered, I endorse Wooten’s endearing endeavor to support Romney’s enduring record of lowering endowments.
Uber-liberal. Do I rock or what?
I like Romney’s idea to Send a tax bill to those affected by legislative faux pi’s. (duck!).
Lets see. 100 million jobs divided into a One trillion dollar war equals ten thousand dollars.
$10K: That’s the tax bill I’m sending to all americans. (which happens to be how old that Iraqi feud be )
cue twilight zone music
By TW
September 1, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this
Q – What’s better than a flip-flopper from Massachusetts?
A – A Mormon flip-flopper from Massachusetts!
Please continue to endorse Romney, Mr. Wooten…please…
By @@
September 1, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this
Oh my! I find myself in agreement with PoliFore a/k/a BlogFarter…er “Father”. Sorry, it takes a lot of practice to break old habits Mitt.
Sending out the tax bills so that the Democratic legislators would “feel their (the people’s pain) was brilliant. But why exactly, would they (the Democrats) need to be reminded that common folks experience financial pain.
Detached from reality maybe?
I don’t know Jim, maybe I should take a closer look at Mitt. His ideas sound innovative. But Washington politics vs. Massachusetts politics????
We’re talking about a state who has consistently and repeatedly elected Ted Kennedy and John Kerry to represent them in Washington.
Ooooohhhhhh, what was I thinking? Democrats in Massachusetts are easily duped.
Dang….there I go again.
I’ll work on Rule No. 1 just a tad.
By @@
September 1, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this
Oops, forgot. After this comment I won’t be posting again today PoliFore a/k/a BlogFa..t..h..e..r so…..
if you must be a namejacking a$$, feel free.
See! I’m a quick study.
By MOT
September 1, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
Hmmmm someone with morals, ethics, an intact family, a proven track record AND thinks outside the box? You mean a candidate that knows how to make friends and not enemies of the opposing party? A unifier? Someone who can make the odds work not in HIS favor but in favor of the people? Very interesting! I was not looking terribly closely in Romney’s direction, but NOW! What insightful, telling information. Can he take what he did on a state level and make it work in Washington? I think he can, given the way he operates. I am beginning to get a sense that he is DIFFERENT from other candidates because he is not seeking power to be powerful but is seeking power to really make that difference for the people and country that they ALL profess to be doing, but what they end up doing is mainly selfish me me me politics same old same old. This one seems cut from a different pattern, a fresh thinker and doer. hmmmmm I will have to do some more looking and studying of the one or two candidates. Thanks so much for the insightful information, Mr. Wooten!
By samjam
September 1, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
Ron Paul For Save Our Country.
No more DemoPublicans.
No more of that sorry same ‘ol, same ‘ol.
Screw’em all. Vote Ron Paul.
Save Our Country in 2008!
By samjam
September 1, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this
Vote Ron Paul For Save Our Country!
No More DemoPublicans
No More Of That Sorry Same ‘Ol, Same ‘Ol
Screw ‘Em All. Vote Ron Paul
Save Our Country In 2008
By Carolyn
September 1, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
About the only thing that could stop Romney would be saggy pants.
Dont ask, if you dont know.
By timetopissontheneoconscumandotherrepubicsublifeforms
September 1, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this
Until 12:30 pm, all Republicans smell exactly alike - fresh urine smell. The lying double standard party, double think, double speak boys believe the rules do not apply to them, just to the cattle otherwise known as the voters.
By All-Hat Ranch
September 1, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this
This sounds like the bill of goods we were sold during W’s first campaign.
He was a uniter. He worked with the Democrat controlled state legislature. He had cute little nick-names for his opponents on the other side of the aisle.
Now look at the mess we are in. EVERYTHING is politicized.
Fool us thrice……….
By Jeremy
September 1, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this
Mr Wooten,
Once again you are able to demonstrate Mitt’s Strength and appeal that smashes through the foggy haze that the MSM has been able to cast around him. He is a strong man in mind and character as one would expect from a God loving/fearing man (Regardless of religious orientation).
Can you imagine if people really could see that Romney is as sincere as he seems and could start trusting him as a candidate regardless of religion?
“Smooth Mitt” is so refined because he is that wholesome and no other dirt can be found.
“Flip-Flopper” because he is smarter and more humble than people would give him credit and is able to think freely and about all sides of a issue and change his stance if the ultimate winning argument outways previous convictions.
People should truly think about the man, his character, his views and don’t be swayed by naysayers with hidden agendas.
Jeremy Metairie LA
By Jeremy
September 1, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Mr Wooten,
Once again you are able to demonstrate Mitt’s Strength and appeal that smashes through the foggy haze that the MSM has been able to cast around him. He is a strong man in mind and character as one would expect from a God loving/fearing man (Regardless of religious orientation).
Can you imagine if people really could see that Romney is as sincere as he seems and could start trusting him as a candidate regardless of religion?
“Smooth Mitt” is so refined because he is that wholesome and no other dirt can be found.
“Flip-Flopper” because he is smarter and more humble than people would give him credit and is able to think freely and about all sides of a issue and change his stance if the ultimate winning argument outways previous convictions.
People should truly think about the man, his character, his views and don’t be swayed by naysayers with hidden agendas.
Jeremy Metairie LA
By Jeremy
September 1, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
Mr Wooten,
Once again you are able to demonstrate Mitt’s Strength and appeal that smashes through the foggy haze that the MSM has been able to cast around him. He is a strong man in mind and character as one would expect from a God loving/fearing man (Regardless of religious orientation).
Can you imagine if people really could see that Romney is as sincere as he seems and could start trusting him as a candidate regardless of religion?
“Smooth Mitt” is so refined because he is that wholesome and no other dirt can be found.
“Flip-Flopper” because he is smarter and more humble than people would give him credit and is able to think freely and about all sides of a issue and change his stance if the ultimate winning argument outways previous convictions.
People should truly think about the man, his character, his views and don’t be swayed by naysayers with hidden agendas.
Jeremy Metairie LA
By Doom's frustration
September 1, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this
Jeremy,
One time. That’s all it takes is one time to click post.
By Jacob Wood
September 1, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
Expecting a Republican president to cut spending is laughable. Another four years of Republican rule would bankrupt our country for sure. In the past 25 years, no Republican president has cut federal spending (no, not Regan either), and the one President to balance the federal budget was Bill Clinton. You want an economically ‘conservative’ president? Vote Obama.
By MOT
September 1, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this
That’s Reagan, not Regan. And Obama is going to end up being Hilary’s yes man. I think he has potential to be good, as he has some good ideas too, but he is weak in experience in a lot of areas and will end up being her other mate.
By Jacob Wood
September 1, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
R-E-A-G-A-N
hahaha.
By TW
September 1, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
Jeremy – The consistency in your posts disqualifies you from the Romney camp…does your mom know you’re using the computer?
By getalife
September 1, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this
“This would be funny if it weren’t so ridiculous:
But even such tight control could not always filter out the bizarre world inside the [Green Zone] barricades. At one point, [three visiting members of Congress] were trying to discuss the state of Iraqi security forces with Iraq’s national security adviser, Mowaffak al-Rubaie, but the large, flat-panel television set facing the official proved to be a distraction. Rubaie was watching children’s cartoons.
When Moran asked him to turn it off, Rubaie protested with a laugh and said, “But this is my favorite television show,” Moran recalled.
[Rep. Jon Porter (R-Nev.)] confirmed the incident, although he tried to paint the scene in the best light, noting that at least they had electricity.
“I don’t disagree it was an odd moment, but I did take a deep breath and say, ‘Wait a minute, at least they are using the latest technology, and they are monitoring the world,’ ” Porter said. “But, yes, it was pretty annoying.”
In other words, during an official meeting with U.S. lawmakers, the man responsible for coordinating Iraqi intelligence would rather watch a cartoon than discuss national security policy. And the Republican lawmaker in the room doesn’t see anything wrong with that.”
Thay’s all folks.
Geez.
By AmVet
September 1, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this
Based on the “effectiveness” displayed by the current occupant of the White House, and his cadre of cronies and advisors, over the past six years it is apparent that the term “experience” can be extremely manipulated to mislead people into thinking it is directly related to basic competency.
The sheer number and gravity of red flags as related to the history of GWB, leads me to conclude that there was much wishful thinking going on in the GOP camp and an intense, almost insane, desire to win at all costs, and to deceive themselves and the nation, no matter how poor the party’s choice, nor how lacking the candidate.
And lets face it, as Mr. Nader correctly pointed out, President Clinton’s deplorable, selfish and arrogant actions in office, as well as many other Democratic scandals, all but gave the reigns of power to yet another horrible GOP slate of candidates.
And though the cows have already gotten out of the barn, I have read the quotes of MANY once die hard Republican voters who now are inclined to close the barn door, though as we all know, it is far too late.
Yet it seems that many thousands of the less strident and more observant of those in the “big tent” genuinely rue their decision to disregard the obvious and send this man, who was to make such a spectacular mess of his opportunities, to 1600 Pennsyvania Avenue, twice.
It comes at an enormous cost, but if this is indeed the swan song of this completely misguided neo-conservative movement, not only is there tremendous hope for the future, perhaps America will again confidently claim its rightful and undisputed place as the penultimate leader and shining example of free nations.
By So Frolics His Colic
September 1, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
Now hold on. the very very latest news out of Iraq is astonishingly positive. The shia calls a ceace fire? The sunnis fighting with us. Al Queda is a dirty word. The kurds are having some sort of golden age.
All Iraq needs is time. The Shia are purging. The US is surging. The sunnis are urging. AL queda is dirging. Iraq is on the verge of merging.
The Al Sadr cease fire is the biggest news since the capture of saddam.
It means one of two things, or both: He needs US troops to purge his shia militia of the rotten eggs. He’s lost control of his army and is desperate for help. (this would be bad news)
or
He’s sincerely wants peace, and realized the fruitlessness of war. He’s ready to negotiate power and resources with the sunni/kurds. (this would be good news.)
By Donald
September 1, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this
By the way, the next time you have a chat with Mitt, tell him that his explanations of his sons not going to fight in Iraq is a joke. Also let him know that just like yourself, he is a total hypocrite. No wonder you two scumbags had quite a love fest. Question, was Senator Craig at the interview!?
By Duh stands for Democrat
September 1, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this
Look at this teeny, tiny little article shrunken to fit in the smallest space possible in the Urinal:
{{{{ Fund-raiser turns himself in- Hsu had become a New York apparel executive and benefactor of Democratic causes and candidates, including presidential contenders Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, whose campaign designated Hsu a “HillRaiser” —- a title given to top donors.-Urinal}}}}
He was giving to the Clinton campaign using a false address, only uncovered by the Wall Street Journal.
Ah, reminiscing the old Clinton scandals, the many and frequent “mistakes” that were made clearly outside the boundary of the law, what a great and naïve president she would make, so forgetful.
~~~~~~
So if the surge is going as bad as you surrender monkey liberals are bleating, then why is Harry Reid on his knees begging Bush?:
{{{{“I don’t think we have to think that our way is the only way,” Reid said of specific dates during an interview in his office here. “I’m not saying, ‘Republicans, do what we want to do.’ Just give me something that you think you would like to do, that accomplishes some or all of what I want to do.”}}}}
Gosh, what a statesman, a second coming of Tom Daschle.
By Cheryl
September 1, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this
Romney is hot!
By AmVet
September 1, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this
Just watched the sermon, er, resignation speech, from Senator Craig.
Please pray for him, that he might find the common decency to apologize for what he did. But don’t hold your breath!
No contrition, NONE. Just pleasing sound bites and political pandering to head off any further GOP damage.
And shamefully “wide stance” gave himself thirty days to do so under the pretext of giving the illustrious governor and the good people of Idaho the chance to find another of the “family values” GOP faithful.
By getalife
September 1, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this
“Iraq Civilian Deaths Rise: Over 1,800 Killed In August.”
The people who support this needless slaughter and genocide have chosen the wrong path.
May God have no mercy on their souls †
Craig should be allowed to stay in Senate for one month. Not one day should this hypocrite pervert be allowed to step on the Senate floor. He is disgusting.
Geez.
By getalife
September 1, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this
“Lawmakers who were almost shot down declare ‘significant progress’
A plane carrying three U.S. senators and a member of the House was forced to take evasive maneuvers to avoid rocket-propelled grenades as they took off from Baghdad. “It was a scary moment,” said Sen. Mel Martinez (R-FL).”
My “propagandar” is beeping real loud.
Geez.
By Bill
September 1, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this
The left thinks being gay is great (except if you happen to be a gay Republican.)
By getalife
September 1, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this
bs bill,
It is the hypocrisy of voting no gays in the military, no gay marriage,and all the gay bashing the wingnuts spew.
Get real bill.
By getalife
September 1, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this
The facts about the escalation of the occupation
No wonder my “propagandar”is beeping so loud.
Geez.
By jm
September 1, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
I see Mr. Wooten is espousing the virtues of a Massachusetts flip-flopper (a couple of years late). With Gov. Romney’s ever “evolving” (which way is the base leaning today) positions, it shouldn’t be too long before the republican’s let their favorite democrat, ol’ ZigZag Zell out from whatever attic they have been keeping him in to start campaigning again.
By Liberals, Fighting The Good Anti Gay Fight, Go!
September 1, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
{{{{By getalife September 1, 2007 1:19 PM Craig should be allowed to stay in Senate for one month. Not one day should this hypocrite pervert be allowed to step on the Senate floor. He is disgusting.}}}}
Yes!
Aren’t those homosexuals just so icky?
By getalife
September 1, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this
Oops:
Craig should not be allowed to stay in Senate for one month.
By Cheryl
September 1, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this
I would just love to get my mitts on Romney. He’s hot.
I going to vote for Mitt Romney. I cant wait to be alone behind that voting booth curtain.
Look, even though war is bad, overall nothing ever really happens. A few casualties, a couple bombs go off, some screaming and shouting, and nothing. Nothing ever really happens.
Things are fine. Bush done good. History will be kind to him. Dont you liberals ever get sick of debating every word Bush says? Let it go. Just let it go. Hell, we out think you, you can just say you got out-debated. Just let it go.
Enjoy the prosperity Bush hath wrought and just let it go.
By Reid
September 1, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
Pursue Bathhouse Equality
What Jack London wrote of San Francisco after the ‘06 earthquake — “Nothing remains of it but memories” — could also be written of the City’s gay bathhouses after AIDS. “All gone except those on the outskirts” applies likewise, those on the outskirts regarded as surviving in Berkeley and San Jose.
But surely the gay men of this great, grey city of love deserve better — and closer. As San Francisco pursues marriage equality, she should also pursue bathhouse equality by rebuilding for a second time that long vacant survivor of ‘06, the Hibernia Bank at Jones and Market, this time as a bathhouse. The Hibernia Bath could be the equal of any now found in Paris, Budapest, or Berlin and echo in the 21st C. the 20th C. reconstruction of San Francisco.
Bathhouses.
Rest Stops.
Rest Stop Bathrooms.
Whats the difference?
By Liberals, Fighting The Good Anti Gay Fight, Go!
September 1, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Reid September 1, 2007 4:21 PM Bathhouses. Rest Stops. Rest Stop Bathrooms. Whats the difference?}}}}
Public parks, too.
Pretty much anywhere they feel like.
Homosexuals don’t care about the harm that they do to society and our culture, they only care about their own gratification.
Like some animal.
But not to worry, getalife and his fellow liberals will run them off for us.
Well, at least the ones that aren’t democrats.
By getalife
September 1, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this
We have learned from Craig, Foley, Vitter and Haggard, that the ones who scream the loudest about gays are perverts.
I think the same applies on this blog.
Geez.
By Liberals, Fighting The Good Anti Gay Fight, Go!
September 1, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this
{{{{By getalife September 1, 2007 4:55 PM We have learned from Craig, Foley, Vitter and Haggard, that the ones who scream the loudest about gays are perverts. I think the same applies on this blog.}}}}
Did getalife just out himself?
{{{{By getalife September 1, 2007 1:19 PM Craig should be allowed to stay in Senate for one month. Not one day should this hypocrite pervert be allowed to step on the Senate floor. He is disgusting.}}}}
Sicko.
By Reid
September 1, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this
Here’s your perverts squirt.
By Corky Cobb
September 1, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
Anyone want to go to a strip club tonight and watch a bunch of women strip naked? How about a lap dance? Maybe you prefer a pole dance.
Maybe instead we can just get a hooker, there are hundreds available. They will even give you a b j in your car.
If you want diaper sex you can use a respectable service.
How about sex with a teenage girl? Its just a click away.
How about just a casual hook-up? Also just a click away. Those that are married DON’T forget to take off the wedding ring.
But please, don’t force sex on ANYONE. There were 40,000 cases of straight men sexually assaulting women last year. Sick.
By Analchord.
September 1, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this
What harm did Craig do the Repudlickan Party and the Neocons? He almost convinced me with that dead pan expression and forceful denial. “I categorically deny all charges….I am not a gay cabalero….I categorically deny…deny….deny….”, and when you throw in his suit and his delivery, well, it exposed the Repudlickan game plan and technique of disinformation and desemination of propaganda, (pun intended).
This is Bush’s way. Bush wears a suit and denies denies denies with lies lies lies, (and nice ties). Keep repeating it over and over and over. That’s the Repudlickan game plan, man.
You only have to mouth the words and you’ll get people to believe it, if you have a suit on, and greying hair.
We are sheep. We deserve the leaders we have.
By getalife
September 1, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this
Why does diaper Vitter get a free pass?
By Lee
September 1, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this
I am glad that somebody is finally giving Mitt Romney a chance. He is the most electable candidate that the GOP has. He has his morals right and has a business record that stands on its own two feet. Of all the candidates, Romney is the only front runner that has things about him brought up like, he put his dog ontop of the car, unknown illegals working on his lawn and a hand full of other ridiculous headlines. I would rather have his dog in the White House than somebody who has had 3 wives, estranged from his children or supports liberal views. Mitt Romney has won my vote all ready.
By AmVet
September 1, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this
Aren’t those homosexuals just so icky?
There still remains in America some neo-con cretins like Andy, who intentionally play stupid and refuse to admit, much less repudiate, the disgusting actions of a lying, deceitful hypocrite who engaged in criminal behavior and who doesn’t belong on the Senate floor.
Even given his sociopathic nature, religious intolerance and open disgust for homosexuals, the problem is so easy to see that even a misanthrope like him should grasp it - America is sick of these “family values” frauds and religious charlatans.
I was amused that he yesterday compared Senator Webb’s aide bringing a weapon into the Capitol building as on par with this pervert.
Apparently, he’ll say anything to endorse this scumbag.
By Liberals, Fighting The Good Anti Gay Fight, Go!
September 1, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this
{{{{By AmVet September 1, 2007 5:38 PM Even given his sociopathic nature, religious intolerance and open disgust for homosexuals, the problem is so easy to see that even a misanthrope like him should grasp it - America is sick of these “family values” frauds and religious charlatans.}}}}
One Voice: Why are you dragging me into this?
Are you looking for someone to point out how your rant is filled with the most silly hypocrisy imaginable, and want the best person possible to do it?
O.K, I’ll help you.
So you just announced to the whole blog that the most wretched pervert imaginable, a child molester or what ever, is without fault as long as he tells everybody he’s a pervert?
And doesn’t denounce perversion?
Do you not see the utter depravity of this line of thinking?
And you can’t dispute it either, there have been plenty of lib perverts, Bill Clinton is a serial rapist, Gary Studds broke the page barrier long before Foley and was reelected 3 times, Barney Frank ran a gay prostitution ring out of the basement of his house, you people don’t say squat, it never even makes it into the news.
Homosexuals have already broken the boundary so what difference does it make to them to lurk in an airport bathroom or a public park full of children. And which one of us is pro gay?
And when you tell the world go ahead and lurk in airport bathrooms as long as you don’t denounce it later, what message do you think the borderline, closeted perverts are getting from that?
I said yesterday that they ALL, just like that in capital letters, they ALL need to go, all of the perverts, out of our government.
And I meant Republican and democrat.
Too bad you can’t say the same.
Hypocrite.
By stuffedshirt
September 2, 2007 8:24 AM | Link to this
HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED THE AREA ALL AROUND THE AJC BUILDING ON MARIETTA STREET JUST REEKS OF URINE SMELL? COULD THAT SMELL BE COMING FROM OLD WOODEN HEADS CUBICLE?
By cranky old man
September 2, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this
“The Al Sadr cease fire is the biggest news since the capture of saddam.”
“It means one of two things, or both: He needs US troops to purge his shia militia of the rotten eggs. He’s lost control of his army and is desperate for help. (this would be bad news)”
There is a third possibility: He is keeping his forces out of the crossfire until the U.S. can no longer sustain the troop level at current numbers. He’s done this before when the heat was on. I was over there from ‘05 - ‘06, and spent several months in the mostly Shia south. I got to know some of the locals, who trusted me somewhat because I could speak Arabic. They told me the Mahdi army was alive and well, even if it was behaving at the moment(this was mostly before the bombing of the mosque at Samarra). But the militia was making it quite clear that they were going to be running things once the Americans finished mopping up the Sunnis and went home. So the locals were very wary of crossing them. Not that many would want to. The Shia were mostly just happy Saddam was gone. If they ended up living in a dictatorship run by Sadr, at least it would be a Shia dictatorship this time.
What that means for the U.S. is that we are eventually going to have to live with an Iraq that will be quite cozy with the Iranians. That will be the long term strategic result of this war.
By Duh stands for Democrat
September 2, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this
When you are a democrat party toady, your choices for subject matter are limited to bad news about America and you aren’t very creative, apparently the only option is to drag out an old tired liberal straw man:
{{{{Global forces have already decimated the American manufacturing sector, destroying the path that led generations into a comfortable existence, with health care and a secure old age. The cities of the Rust Belt testify to the harsh reality of outsourcing and offshoring. Now the fierce winds of free trade are beginning to be felt a little further up the economic ladder —- battering college-educated workers, too.-Queen Pinko, Urinal}}}}
Real wages continue to grow, real estate values have doubled and tripled, the unemployment rate is so low that it can only be considered full employment in the United States.
So what is this lib longing for us to return to, workers tending to blast furnaces in some dreary factory or toiling over an assembly line?
{{{{He is absolutely right to point out that this country needs to do much more to build up its social safety net and protect workers from the economic instability that will likely speed up in the next decade or so. “At present,” he notes, “the United States has one of the thinnest social safety nets in the industrialized world, and there seems to be little if any political force seeking to improve it.”}}}}
Well let’s see here, one of the business in America that had a “thick” social safety net was the auto industry, and they are in a steep decline because foreign auto makers do not provide the same benefits and are not saddled with the exuberant costs that U.S. companies are.
The United States has the strongest economy in the world hands down, the growth rate last year was in an amount that exceeded China’s entire gross domestic output, what does this pinko want?
And who is stupid enough to believe anything she says, uh, pulitzer committee, duh.
And a racist too!:
{{{{(Journalists, already bruised by the decline of traditional news media, learned a hard lesson about the reach of globalization last May when a small news Web site in California announced that it had hired two reporters in India to cover meetings of the local Pasadena City Council. James Macpherson, editor and publisher of Pasadena Now.com, said: “Whether you’re at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, you’re still just a phone call or e-mail away from the interview.” He said salaries for the two reporters totaled slightly more than $20,000. Macpherson confirmed Thursday that the two are still at work, but he declined to answer any more questions.)}}}}
Hahahaha.
{{{{Cynthia Tucker in AJC: US reaps grief Bush has sown Bush taught us that in the pursuit of power, politics trumps principle. So you never risk alienating the part of your base that’s loony and hateful —- the Ann Coulter chorus —- by publicly criticizing their xenophobia.}}}}
What about your “xenophobia,” Sinthia?
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Have you libs ever heard the story of the boy that cried wolf:
{{{{As the world warms, the United States will face more severe thunderstorms with deadly lightning, damaging hail and the potential for tornadoes, a trailblazing study by NASA scientists suggests.}}}}
Again, what is NASA doing poking around in the business of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration or maybe even the National Weather Service?
And here I thought that keeping the shuttle from bursting into flames with a load of astronauts on it was a full time job.
Imagine my surprise to find that NASA has time to dabble in other agency’s business, making predictions that never come true, almost like they have some kind of extracurricular agenda.<—————Duh.
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Doesn’t it figure that if the Atlanta Journal Constitution, a veritable Hillary Clinton pep rally, was going to compile a list of corrupt Lawmakers, that they would leave some notable names off of it, like a bunch of democrats? {{{{The list only available in the litter box liner}}}}
Well, you know me, always here to help:
Jack Murtha:
{{{{Roll Call also reported that Murtha has been behind millions of dollars worth of earmarks in defense appropriations bills that went to companies owned by the children of his fellow Pennsylvania Democrat, Rep. Paul Kanjorski. And the Center for Responsive Politics, a non-partisan campaign finance watchdog group, lists Murtha as the top recipient of defense industry dollars in the current 2006 election cycle.}}}}
Nancy Pelosi:
{{{{Murtha’s role in the culture of corruption also implicates Pelosi herself. Roll Call reported last year that Murtha “reportedly leaned on U.S. Navy officials to sign a contract to transfer the Hunters Point Shipyard to the city of San Francisco.” Pelosi’s nephew, Laurence Pelosi, was an executive of the company that owned the rights to the land.}}}}
Diane Feinstein:
{{{{California U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D) chairs the Senate Rules Committee, but she’s also a Cardinal. She is currently chairwoman of the Interior, Environment and Related Agencies subcommittee, but until last year was for six years the top Democrat on the Military Construction, Veterans Affairs, and Related Agencies (or “Milcon”) sub-committee, where she apparently directed more than $1 billion to companies controlled by her husband. Mr. Blum. Yet, not a word in the mainstream media.}}}}
Hillary Clinton:
{{{{My gawd, where to begin?}}}}
Harry Reid:
{{{{Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid sent a letter to Norton on March 5, 2002 … The next day, the Coushattas issued a $5,000 check to Reid’s tax-exempt political group, the Searchlight Leadership Fund. A second Abramoff tribe sent another $5,000 to Reid’s group. Reid ultimately received more than $66,000 in Abramoff-related donations between 2001 and 2004. …}}}}
My arm hurts now, but you get the idea, the AJC has no credibility at all.
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{{{{Civilian deaths in Iraq rose in August to their second-highest monthly level this year, raising questions about whether U.S. strategy is working- Urinal}}}}
Two choices: 1) Continue to kill the terrorists that are murdering these innocent women and children, disrupting their operations and building up a successful Iraqi army to assume the duties of defending their country or 2) flee from the terrorists leaving the same innocent women and children to their tender mercies and cut throat revenge.
So which option do you think the pinkos at the AJC have chosen?
By AmVet
September 2, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
cranky old man, thanks for that post at 8:32.
Not that I would ever distrust the information from this President and his administration regarding the “real” situation in Iraq!
I mean given their longstanding and impeccable credibility in this matter.
The “stay the course”/”surge” crowd must hate it when this keeps happening. Get the swift-boaters ready!
A second retired British general slammed the United States over its Iraq policy, saying in a newspaper interview published Sunday that it had been “fatally flawed.”
Maj. Gen. Tim Cross, the most senior British officer involved in the postwar planning, said he had raised serious concerns about the possibility of Iraq falling into chaos but said former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld dismissed the warnings.
(Don dismiss warnings?!! Seems implausible.)
“Right from the very beginning we were all very concerned about the lack of detail that had gone into the postwar plan and there is no doubt that Rumsfeld was at the heart of that process,” Cross said in the Sunday Mirror newspaper.
The comments come a day after the release of critical comments made by the general who led the British army during the Iraq invasion.
Retired Gen. Sir Mike Jackson also singled out Rumsfeld for criticism, saying his approach to the invasion was “intellectually bankrupt,” according to quotes excerpted from his autobiography and published by The Daily Telegraph Saturday.
By AmVet
September 2, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this
New US Army advertising campaign slogan:
When alliances are an obstacle, we have a coalition of ONE. Be an ARMY of ONE.
By tionne
September 2, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this
Well, if Wooten likes him, this just confirms my suspicion that Romney is completely unelectable on a national level…as well he should be.
By catlady
September 2, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this
Back in about 1968 when I read 1984, I thought it was a rediculous fantasy. Had I only known! Think about all the truthspeak we have been subjected to over the last 6 or 7 years!
On the situation in Iraq, it reminds me of my ex-husband. Quite willing for others to do for him, but unwilling to do for himself (not to even think about doing something for others!) Seems ironic to me that our Republican friends, who push so hard for welfare recepients to do for themselves, seem unwilling to expect another country to do for itself. Not only that, but they keep dropping ever-more billions of dollars into the black hole, profiting no one except those on fat defense and rebuilding contracts (who just happen to be one of them as well). Meanwhile, the common man gets stiffed left and right, losing his sons and daughters to the death machine of Iraq, and paying out every orifice for the “opportunity” to do so!
By MrLiberty
September 2, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
He wants to double the size of Gitmo. Smells more like totalitarianism to me.
Romney is not talking about eliminating taxes, seriously cutting government, restoring the constitution following Bush’s destruction, restoring our favorable reputation in the world, or getting the government out of my life.
Ron Paul is. He is speaking out for was every decent self-respecting conservative and constitution lover should be supporting. He will win because he is on the right side of the issues.
By getalife
September 2, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this
Pentagon ‘three-day blitz’ plan for Iran
There will be selling this hard and our media will give them the platform.
We will see if the Dem candidates are able to lead away from WWIII.
Not a good time to be young for the draft or living in large cities.
Duncan Hunter won the Texas straw poll not Ron Paul.
By Analchord.
September 2, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
Question for the blog. Who here doesn’t read enough? Who here is so horny for print that they would read a 500-1000 word manifesto blog from one of the uber-pundits who comment here?
I cant waste that much time. This guy could be telling how to cure cancer and I wouldn’t read it. It’s too long. I have to read the AJC, the NYT, and also i’ve got the US open, and the Sunday Morning Talk Shows going, not to mention I’m writing a short story.
Like I’m going to wade through amateur hour at the wooten blog?
Anyone else experience sunday mornings the way I do, or am I the only fat, aging baby boomer with glasses, (FABB4eyes).
FABB4eyes: That’s as close as my hair gets to Paul or John’s. (It’s been a bad-hair day’s night, I’ve been dredlocking like snoop dog. It’s been a bad-hair day’s night, I shouldn’t be here on this blog. But when I read things from you, and see you think like I do, I have to post replies, I have to post replies, I have to post replies…..)
By getalife
September 2, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
My arm hurts now, but you get the idea, the AJC has no credibility at all.
Your arm hurts?
Turn off the porn, wanker.
No credibility?
Pot to kettle, when have you been right about anything?
Geez.
By getalife
September 2, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
“We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime”
All hell will break lose.
Geez.
By AmVet
September 2, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this
So you just announced to the whole blog that the most wretched pervert imaginable, a child molester or what ever, is without fault as long as he tells everybody he’s a pervert?
LIAR
Reproduce it Andy. Word for word.
Or, better yet and equally as improbable, just grow up.
By Duh stands for Democrat
September 2, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Analchord. September 2, 2007 11:43 AM I cant waste that much time.}}}}
A day doesn’t go by without a another breakthrough in liberal audacity and hypocrisy.
The same person that monitors this blog 24/7 and pollutes it with the most bizarre spam, even the email pornographers wouldn’t stoop to such nonsense, and he says he can’t waste anytime.
You libs have no modesty what so ever.
{{{{This guy could be telling how to cure cancer and I wouldn’t read it.}}}}
Perhaps this could be why you are such a common dullard, no?
I find very little liberal thought and writings to be of any merit, it’s usually just kultursmog, but at least I read it to find out what you perverts are scheming.
I wouldn’t want to be a totally uninformed dolt, like someone we all know.
{{{{By getalife September 2, 2007 11:45 AM Turn off the porn, wanker.}}}}
Well, well, if you haven’t become the great righteous one, al-Gitmo, are you liberals going to attempt to live clean now?
Really, one day you promote and protect depravity, the next day you condemn those who partake in it.
Must be tough to keep track or are you even trying anymore?
Just like Johny Girl and his two Americas, you are.
By DemDems4Ever
September 2, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this
Amvet,
The only hope for America is the demise of the Democrat party and the socilists who give support to the Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, John Murtha, Gary Studds sickos in charge.
May you dry up and BLOW away with them.
By Liberals, Fighting The Good Anti Gay Fight, Go!
September 2, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this
{{{{By AmVet September 2, 2007 12:08 PM LIAR Reproduce it Andy. Word for word.}}}}
Geez, are you disputing that you wrote this:
{{{{By AmVet September 1, 2007 5:38 PM who intentionally play stupid and refuse to admit, much less repudiate, the disgusting actions of a lying, deceitful hypocrite who engaged in criminal behavior and who doesn’t belong on the Senate floor.}}}}
So if he wasn’t a “lying deceitful hypocrite” than there would be no fault with his actions, right?
Are you going to dispute Gary Studds, the page groping pioneer, who got re elected 3 times after he got caught? Ten years before Foley did?
Don’t even bother dude, we all know where you stand.
Promote and protect until a Republican gets caught, then condemn him.
By Analchord.
September 2, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this
Duh talks to me like he thinks I’m the gay cabalero. Well I’m NOT the gay cabalero, Sen Craig is and he said so, sir!
Do I blog fat? Do I blog funny like a girl, or something? I’m not the gay cabalero. Honest.
Duh, wtf? Why do you blog to me like I’M the gay cabalero? I’m not, sir. I am not the gay cabalero.
honest. Really. I categorically deny that I’m the gay cabalero.
‘muff said, sir.
(so to sum up, duh, I am not the gay cabalero, so stop blogging at me like you think I am the gay cabalero, of which I catagorically deny. Not the gay cabalero.)
By Tony
September 2, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
I love when the right wing sheep bring back history to defend the scum in their own party. It was your party that presented itself as the values party remember or should that be forgotten like bin laden dead or alive?
By getalife
September 2, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
Well, well, if you haven’t become the great righteous one, al-Gitmo, are you liberals going to attempt to live clean now?
Your the one with the arm hurting who preaches hatred of gays.
You have chosen the wrong path and should repent.
Its the hypocrisy stupid
Geez.
By AmVet
September 2, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this
Andy, I know it is not really fair to pick on such a buffoon, but you beg for it so, and god knows, if there is anyone who deserves to be exposed for a malicious little misanthrope it is you and your many monikers.
By AmVet
August 28, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
{I know! Aren’t those homosexual people just so strange?}
(This homophobic question was asked by our own little pretend to be stupid andy.)
Andy, you may pretend to play this off as yet another homosexual problem, but you conveniently miss the much larger point.
Yes, you and I and countless others may feel that soliciting sex, of any type, in a public restroom is debauched. And rightfully deserves scorn and in this case an arrest.
But what you conveniently fail to note is how the act is compounded by the fact that this man took such a public anti-gay position to further his political career.
Debauched is bad enough, but a ultra-hypocritical profligate is many times worse.
If you must lie to yourself to make yourself seem tolerable, OK. But to do so in public and to be exposed as such a pathetic liar must hurt your feeling just a little, huh?
So if he wasn’t a “lying deceitful hypocrite” than there would be no fault with his actions, right?
So again, if you are an immoral idiot who can’t read, I suppose in your case, the answer could be yes.
Don’t even bother dude, we all know where you stand.
Yes, I’m sure that you, the mouse in your pocket and your legions of imaginary friends do.
Grow up and start acting like a man.
By getalife
September 2, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
Republican Culture of Corruption: 2007 So Far
Vote gop for more war and this?
Why?
Geez.
By AmVet
September 2, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
For any of you fans of the Blue and Maize, all I can say is wow! You will never live down losing to Appalachian State!
By @@
September 2, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this
AmVet:
I’ve gotta tell you….when it comes to Senator Craig, I find myself in agreement with Duh. I recall when Foley was caught with his e-mails up, conservatives waited for either the evidence to support the claims or for Foley to resign. Either/or was justified in our minds.
You, on the other hand, were among the liberals who, when confronted with your party’s indiscretions remained silent. No…no…wait, you offered a “Tony”. Kinda made my hair curl.
I love when the right wing sheep bring back history to defend the scum in their own party. Convenient?
You continue to want to address the symptom while Andy has repeatedly addressed the problem and has been tagged a homophobe bigot because he does.
Tell me AmVet, is this woman justified in her concern? Or does the fact that she is addressing family values cancel her voice. As “Huge” you were very…VERY opposed to any kind of moral instruction in our schools. Even if morality was taught without any religious affiliation, I guarantee you that there would be some group who would oppose it simply because of the connection.
We have reached a point in our society where morality of our youth is at the mercy of liberal indoctrination in our schools and elsewhere.
Craig is the symptom. Advocating immorality is the problem.
What are you willing to sacrifice to address the problem?
and don’t tell me that it (moral teaching) belongs in the home. I agree with you that “it does”, but since the parents of so many of our kids were products of the sexual revolution, the “me” generation… it’s unlikely that it will be taught there.
Believe me when I say this Huge. I’ve talked to kids whose parents are of that generation. Why are their kids seeking out that which is harmful to them? Because their parents have told them that it is a right of passage.
Weird….I thought we, as parents, we as a society, were supposed to insure our children’s well-being.
By Martin Schaffel
September 2, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this
The Governor’s logic and gentlemen’s approach might have worked in his state but Washington, DC is another story. The national Democratic Party has no interest in inproving conditions for our people or this country; they are only interested in power and holding on to it and as a result conduct business in the gutter utilizing any method that meets their needs. The Governor’s methods will get steam rollered within the first six months of his administration and he will become a slave to the Democratic Congress.
To get along with this Democratic Party, one must get down in the gutter and fight fire with fire. The Republican Party has no one that can do that at present.
By raisedanidiot
September 2, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this
wooten is a real wuss! associate editor my azz…wooten’s blog itself demonstrates the demise of the GOP…even with the majority of the bloggers being liberal and moderate it takes him two days to fill up sixty some comments…the GOP is dying my friends…George will leave no prisoners…soon there will be no one left to defend …not even Andy/dull…
wussy wooten says 8yrs. isn’t time enough! The Gop surge needs more time! Maybe we just need to go ahead and ok a Bush monarchy…would that give your “wide stance” policies time enough to be effective…noop…dope!
Wussie wooten did get one thing right…the next presidential election IS crucial!!
“Lock in a U.S. Supreme Court majority at 5-4, given the near certainty that at least one vacancy will occur over the next four years, and any frivolous thoughts about sitting out the election, opting for a third party or choosing a candidate on any basis other than principles and electability should be discarded now. The stakes are too high to be distracted by matters unlikely to affect a president’s policies and decisions — his personal religious beliefs,”
…here’s where he lost me again…NOW its not important what our president’s religious beliefs are?…LMAO!! flip flop flip flop…goes the trolls
YEEAAH…you go ahead with the Romney thing wuss…right now you’re just providing us all with political entertainment…Mitt has about as much chance in office as Pat Robertson did…and look what happened to him…it drove the poor man mad…he’s constantly plagued with hallucinations…its quite pitiful.
P.S. Andy/dull is scared of Hillary and gays…if Hillary was a lesbian, Andy would wet his pants.
By AmVet
September 2, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this
@@, though we think alike in many ways the difference between us is nonetheless vast.
You frame the context of your arguments almost solely in terms of ideology and sometimes extremist political persuasion, as evidenced by your oft stated paranoia of liberal indoctrination in education causing the demise of America.
Or when you refer to “your (my) party’s indiscretions”. As I have said countless times I am not a Democrat, yet you insist on repeating this intentional and outright lie and you know it.
But then you don’t ever intentionally misquote or deceive, do you @@?
If after all of this time you still choose to fail to understand that it makes not a tinker’s damn to me if a lying scumbag is Republican, Democratic, Libertarian, Green Party or Martian, there is no hope for you or Andy.
Or if they are incompetent. Or if they are crooks. Or if they are men of honor and courage.
I do not apologize for anyone but me. I do not speak for anyone but me.
But we both know that that is not altogether common here, don’t we @@?
And it is most ironic that you refer to silent tacit approval, given yours in regards to Andy’s abominable, venomous, hate-filled tirades before he had his nads cut off at Luckovich’s and was banned for some time.
Nor given the irrefutable fact that I just exposed Andy for telling yet another outright lie and as that is of NO importance to you, you still endorse him.
You have always chosen to lie down with dogs, @@, and so you get up with fleas.
By getalife
September 2, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this
I find myself in agreement with Duh
Now there is a shocker.
Don’t let your kids watch the news, the gop are setting a terible example for them.
Geez.
Yes, great games yesterday.
Geaux Tigers and Saints!
By Duh stands for Democrat
September 2, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this
{{{{By AmVet August 28, 2007 11:18 AM Debauched is bad enough, but a ultra-hypocritical profligate is many times worse.}}}}
So, in a nutshell, it is more important to Amvet to score stupid political points than it is to confront the problems facing our culture.
I know you are being disingenuous and no amount of self righteous chest pounding is going to change the fact that 2 weeks ago, you would have defended a persons right to solicit gay sex in an airport restroom.
You are absolutely right to call me a homophobe, I’m against a lot of other perversions too and I have been for a long, long time.
I didn’t just jump on the band wagon like you did.
And you know what is so convenient for me being in this position? I, and every other Conservative, can tell that we were right.
The act of soliciting sex in an airport bathroom is a direct result of all of the perversions that you liberals promote and protect, remember the slippery slope we told you about?
What exactly did you expect to happen, genius, when you gay parade down Main Street in front of all the children, you fill the TV screen with all kinds of depravity, you make movies about filth and award yourself prizes for doing it?
Do you really think a healthy society sits around a night discussing “erectile disfunction,” like so many middle aged teenagers, in front of their children?
We are sick, sick, sick.
By the way, The Conservative Party did the Right Thing again.
Got rid of Craig’s sorry a-ss.
Real Conservatives don’t lurk in men’s restrooms.
When you gonna clean your house, pervert?
By getalife
September 2, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this
Why is diaper Vitter getting a free pass cons?
He spews family morals crap too but you let him slide?
Why?
By raisedanidiot
September 2, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this
@@ aka “boobs”…repugs caught in sex scandels aren’t “more wrong” just “more funny” :)
Amvet - I am proud to say I spent two happy years at Happy App…GO MOUNTAINEERS!!
By AmVet
September 2, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
Way to man up Andy, and say, “yes Amvet, obviously you showed everyone here, beyond the slightest doubt, I intentionally misquoted you and tried to deceive people. I will not try to cover up or deflect this and most humbly apologize and assure you that it will never happen again.”
Oh wait! That isn’t ever going to happen? Something about a complete lack of courage and humility? And like a rat caught in a trap, he keeps trying the same thing over and over and over, hoping that somehow magically it will start working.
….the fact that 2 weeks ago, you would have defended a persons right to solicit gay sex in an airport restroom.
You have demonstrated hundreds of times that you should never, ever use the word fact, Andy. It is utterly lost upon your growing dementia.
And to think that poor @@, sadly tries to defend a liar like this…
By @@
September 2, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
Good gawd AmVet your 1:57 was eleven paragraphs of avoiding the . Please go back and find where, as Huge, you ever supported the conservative’s stance on Democrats Studds, Frank or Clinton.
I’ll wait. Include date and time so that I can go back and view the original post. Passing yourself off as several different posters has left me questioning your motives and your credibility.
As to your objective on this site, it hasn’t changed…
And it is most ironic that you refer to silent tacit approval, given yours in regards to Andy’s abominable, venomous, hate-filled tirades before he had his nads cut off at Luckovich’s and was banned for some time.
You’re still HUGE trying to be King of the Mountain. Trying to tell everyone how to think…how to debate…how to engage in civil discourse.
You can’t hide it. Your emotions get the best of you, then you become transparent about every eighth post. Your “star” quality fades.
Your posts are extremely redundant and sound just like every other liberal who posts here.
By Robert Byrd, Ku Klux Klan Exalted Cyclops and democrat
September 2, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this
Greetings fellow liberals.
Are all you younguns listening to the message being told to you today by your elders, pay real close attention cause it’s good advice.
If you want to grow up and be a freak, the most disgusting pervert imaginable, do horrible, depraved things in public places, don’t even wash your as-s afterwards, then just tell everybody you are a democrat and there won’t be no problems for you.
We won’t say a word, the TV won’t say a word, the newspapers will just natter on about Hillary like always, they’ll look the other way, you’ll got off scot free!
It worked for me!
By @@
September 2, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this
Uh oh, put “question and issue” after the word “the”.
By Analchord.
September 2, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this
Y-y-yeah! Amvet’s t-t-trying to be k-k-king of the m-m-morons and tell everyone how to think and he’s r-r-redundant!
By getalife
September 2, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this
You mean like diaper Vitter?
Geez.
By AmVet
September 2, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this
raisedanidiot, you must be STOKED!!!
I’ve only been to Boone once, and that was to take my son skiing on his 18th birthday. We completely lucked out and it snowed heavily!
Who doesn’t just love that part of the country?
Are you enjoying andy tripping over his forked tongue all day long?
Seriously, though that is one of the biggest disappointments here. That there is such a dearth of Republicans who can debate intelligently.
Instead we get these “conservative” (HAH!!!) posers here who apparently slept through high school and “learned” their science and “morals” in Sunday school and thus constantly misuse words like fact and truth.
By AmVet
September 2, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this
So @@, are you saying that andy being the inveterate liar is of no concern to you as you two are joined at the political hip or are you saying that andy being the inveterate liar is of no concern to you as you two are joined at the political hip?
See if you can follow along analchord.
By AmVet
September 2, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
I almost forgot.
@@, wow, even though it is apparently fleeting in your eyes, the fact that you think I ever have some “star” quality, is impressive!
Woo Hoo!
By @@
September 2, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this
AmVet:
What I’m saying is that I admire Andy’s consistency even when I may not agree with him.
Getalife:
How often are “Johns” thrown into jail for soliciting sex? Heck, I didn’t even know the details of Vitter’s sexual proclivities until you liberals started discussing them repeatedly here.
I do know that all the liberal blogs were waiting with bated breath for the D.C. madame’s list to be published. I do believe that you liberals are obsessed with Republican sex.
I visited the site that Reid linked to late last night. There’s a comment/letter posted by a 10 day old child of a lesbian couple. Supposedly the 10 day old child is appealing for same-sex marriage in the state where he/she lives.
I found it disconcerting that his/her same-sex parents were writing on behalf of a child whose opinions have yet to be formed.
Now that’s what I call “adoption” or would it be “adaptation”?
By AmVet
September 2, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this
What I’m saying is that I admire Andy’s consistency even when I may not agree with him.
You may laugh @@, but so do I!
I mean when the guy hates somebody, he really hates ‘em!
And maybe I’ve just missed all of the many examples, but I don’t recall you ever once disagreeing with him. At least in writing.
But I am finished with this expose for now. (Derisive applause and Bronx cheers in the background!)
My point is not to tell anyone else what to think or say @@. And you know it.
My point is that whenever someone misrepresents me, misquotes me or uses outright lies to speak on my behalf, I am going to challenge them. And it has been my experience that I am going to best them.
In other words, don’t screw with this cowboy and he won’t screw with you.
Enjoy your labor day all! Good food and even better beer await me!
By Brian Douglass
September 2, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this
Jeez Wooten! There ain’t no such thing as “liberal” or “conservative” anymore, just you morons that still think there is. All but two candidates are cardboard cutouts designed by our masters to further enslave We the People. (hello, remember us?) Romney is more of the same, Hillary is more of the same, that is Big Government/Big Brother watching and protecting all of us! The only conservative candidate is Ron Paul, and the only liberal candidate is Dennis Kucinich(sp?) And they both believe in freedom! Nothing contradictory there, if you know how to think. Ibelieve that the federal government should have far, far less power than they so foolish wield today. We the People can look after ourselves, thank you very much.I will vote for Paul in the primary and pray to God he wins! Get real Wooten! Romney is just another fluff puppy like Bush! But what would you know? You don’t have the guts to BE conservative or the cajones to BE liberal cause you are already a slave!
By raisedanidiot
September 2, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this
Amvet - good point @2:43
Yes, “Happy App” is a little piece of paradise…I often wonder why in the world I ever left. I grew up about 30 min. from Boone and we (high school buddies) would ski every year…I haven’t been in about 20 yrs. though. I ran track in H.S. and cross country at Happy App…after a slight knee injury skiing my h.s. jr. year my coach had a cow and wouldn’t let me ski anymore…I haven’t been since.
Yeeah, duh’s a real piece of work…a self-professed homophobe…duh’s afraid of gays!!…hey, duh…BOO!
By getalife
September 2, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this
Reid was here?
Its the hypocrisy of the family values and the Dems do not claim to be moral superior like the gop and Vitter.
That argument is history.
I found a better site than Stratfor that list the facts of the escalation of the occupation
I think w and cheney’s attack on Iran is imminent and is completely insane.
The consequences of another preemptive war far outreaches the Iraq disater. A draft, WWIII and the bombing of our cities is something to avoid not support.
It is a great argument for preemptive impeachment.
Geez.
By Romney 08
September 2, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this
Mittigate Republican damage!
By jbmlaw
September 2, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this
Good afternoon all. Mitt is a solid decent fellow, and the only candidate of either party with private sector executive experience. He probably knows how to run a business. He is seemingly conscious of the need to appoint conservative judges and justices, or at least is conscious of all of the damage done to our jurisprudence by the “living, breathing” Constitutionists.
I am not persuaded that Mitt is the most electible. He will do well wherever Republicans generally do well, but I do not think he will bring in fence-sitters. I believe Giuliani is most likely pick off a blue state or two. I think my guy Fred will also appeal to a lot of generally non-political types, and will do better at the margins.
By raisedanidiot
September 2, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this
boobs -“I do believe that you liberals are obsessed with Republican sex.”
No boobs, just impresed that they HAVE sex!
“What I’m saying is that I admire Andy’s consistency even when I may not agree with him.”
You admire consistent stupidity? That explains a lot.
I find it sad that you can’t empathize with anyone outside of your comfort zone…children of gay parents want the same thing for their family as other kids. Thats not indoctrination…its life…you should try joining the human race…you might develop a life of your own.
By Spence
September 2, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this
Wow, wade through all the cr@p and you sometimes find a gem.
Brian Douglass, great post.
By Analchord.
September 2, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
The news from Lebanon is encouraging. The shia cease fire. The surge. Sunni alliances against al queda.
The news is changing so fast that it could be Fred Thompson, or someone else we’ve dismissed as unelectable.
It’s too far away yet and the changes, because of the internetz, and the US americans without maps, will make our next president an unlikely chap indeed, why, it’s even not beyond the realm of possibility to think that the US americans will elect the gay cabalero as our next presidents of the US americanischerns. and stuff
By Brian Douglass
September 2, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this
Why, thank you brother!
By raisedanidiot
September 2, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw - are you my ex-husband?
“living, breathing” Constitutionists”?!
analchord -“because of the internetz, and the US americans without maps, will make our next president an unlikely chap indeed”
you’re cracking me up, dude!
By Analchord.
September 2, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
Cynthia Tucker wrote a courageous column today about the possible consequences of globalization.
That lady can write!
By getalife
September 2, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
Pentagon Pushes Apocalyptic Christianity. Hard.
We have two competely insane wingnut governments ready to go to war.
These are very dangerous times.
Geez.
By raisedanidiot
September 2, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this
Analchord @4:10 - again we agree…Tucker’s awesome…I don’t always agree with her, but boy does she have balls! They need to yank the wuss’s blog away from him and give it to Tucker…she’d keep the blog hopping!
I see globalization as our inevitable future…not necessarily a bad thing…perhaps a difficult and scarey thing…also definately an unpredictable thing. I don’t see how anyone could predict hypothetical outcomes on a global scale…I think what scares most Americans is not being on top…I don’t think thats necessarily a bad thing either. The playing field has been greatly imbalanced for too long. America needs to be humbled. The world does NOT revolve around us…and we need to wake up and gain some real perspective on life in general.
By ncgreybr
September 2, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this
Ya’ll are getting this Craig thang all wrong.
He’s a Republican. Quit fighting him. It shows the Republican Party is diverse. You’re only supposed to hollar if he’s a democrat…THEN he’s a pervert!
Geeeez…get it right!
By @@
September 2, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this
raisedanidiot @ 3:47:
No boobs, just impresed that they HAVE sex!
According to recent studies, conservatives have sex more often than liberals. We’re content with our sex lives (I can attest), AND produce children. In other words, we’re not an endangered species if you know what I’m sayin’. We’re making our contribution(s) to the future.
Let me guess…Liberals like to talk about sex…watch sex…and read about sex.
and if, on the rare occasion, you engage in sex, you have the freedoms to abort any child that may inconveniently result from it.
You admire consistent stupidity? That explains a lot.
This ^^^ coming from someone who signs on telling us he/she was “raisedanidiot”. Well, you know what they say “The nut?….the tree? Not much distance to the ground level where you are.
children of gay parents want the same thing for their family as other kids.
Nice try. I found exploiting the 10 day old baby distasteful. I’ve already said that I support gay adoption. My only concern is that the child should have a say. Newborns can’t speak for themselves.
I also support artificial insemination allowing gay parents to have children. That was the case in the story I read in Reid’s link.
Think about it, there are a lot of older children whom nobody wants. Why not give them the love and support if they have no objection to gay parents? We’re inclined to forget about those kids who really need a home in exchange for our own selfish desires to deliver the goods ourselves.
Outta here!
By raisedanidiot
September 2, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this
getalife @4:42 - DEFINATELY a scarey thing! With all this talk about apocalyptic christianity and globalization I was reminded of Rev. 18 & 19…check it out. It largely depends on how you interpret “babylon”, but what does this sound like to you?… (apology - all I have here in the store is this stupid New International Version) Rev.18 -“Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great! She has become a home for demons and a haunt for every evil spirit…the kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries…the merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes any more - cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linen, …the merchants who sold these things and gained their wealth from her will stand far off, terrified at her torment…woe! woe, o great city, dressed in fine linen,…in one hour such great wealth has been brought to ruin!…then a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and threw it into the sea, and said: …no workman of any trade will ever be found in you again…your merchants were the world’s great men…in her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints, and of all who have been killed on the earth”…
There it is…religious fanatic neo-cons hate America because the apostle John told them to.
Religion is the root of all evil!
I’m outta here…smoke em if ya got em, people…for tomorrow we die.
By Duh stands for Democrat
September 3, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this
My goodness, I’ve never seen a “news” paper article with more lies in it:
A new conservative activist group, Freedom’s Watch, has teamed with former White House spokesman Ari Fleischer to launch a $15 million, five-week advertising campaign featuring military veterans that is aimed at retaining support in Congress for President Bush’s “surge” in Iraq. By Scott Shepard- Urinal
“Activist?”
{{{{One of the ads features a soldier who lost both legs in Fallujah last December warning that “everything I’ve given and sacrificed will mean nothing” if the United States pulls out of Iraq. Another features a woman recalling how she lost an uncle on Sept. 11, 2001……. Nita Chaudhary, an organizer with the liberal online group MoveOn.org, charged in an e-mail that the ads are the product of a “shady White House-linked group”}}}}
So now soldiers and “widows” of the 9/11 attacks are “shady” groups “linked” to the White House, ooooh, how spooky (to a mindless pinko, maybe.)
How quickly things change in the land of the goony liberals.
And notice how MoveOn.org isn’t an “activist” organization.
{{{{ “The Bush policies may be doomed in the House,” said Charles Bullock, a political scientist at the University of Georgia…..”Clearly, the White House knows it could well lose an up or down vote on the war,” said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute, which polls extensively in Florida.}}}}
Write this statement down, save the link, remember it well, while you count the votes in the House extending the surge.
The sole purpose of that sentence, in that article, is meant to influence public opinion using a false portrayal of the facts.
You liberals only have enough balls to make bleating sounds when no one is looking, when it comes time to vote for real, you will meekly fall in line with the White House, guaranteed.
{{{{Indeed, the biggest break in that support came in August when U.S. Sen. John Warner (R-Va.), the former chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee}}}}
1) {{{One day after introducing a resolution opposing President Bush’s plan to send 21,500 more U.S. troops to Iraq, Warner used a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee to suggest that generals had not been candid about their progress in building a new Iraqi army.}}}
Warner was never a supporter of the surge, liar.
2) {{{The departure of even a small number of U.S. service members - perhaps 5,000 of the 160,000 troops in Iraq - would send a powerful message throughout the region that time was running out, Warner said.}}}
Gosh, 5000 troops, that’s damn near a surrender.
Maybe Warner withdrawing from the Senate is sending a message to all the rest of you Cowards.
And liars
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You know, you toady liberals really should work on your math skills:
{{{{BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Civilian deaths from violence in Iraq rose in August, the second highest monthly total, with 1,773 people killed, government data showed on Saturday, just days before the U.S. Congress gets a slew of reports on President George W. Bush’s war strategy.}}}}
Let’s see, if this is the second highest total, 1773, times 54 months for the time we’ve been in Iraq, that’s 95,742 MAXIMUM number of civilians killed.
What happened to the 650,00 that you pinkos were propagandizing?
If the 650,000 had any inkling of truth, that means the first highest monthly total would have to be 535,000.
Anybody want to go out on that limb?
Dullards.
Liars.
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It’s the PMS Vent:
{{{{If our federal government functioned like it should, New Orleans would be better than new today, two years after Katrina. But it doesn’t, and it isn’t.}}}}
127 Billion Dollars provided by the Federal Government to the State and Local governments, an amount that THE STATES REQUESTED and are supposed to be using to rebuild with.
Lowly Mississippi is nearly rebuilt better than before, most likely because they are run by Republicans and not Louisiana democrats.
Duh.
{{{{When I drive I see most Americans breaking the law by speeding. They complain that illegal immigrants are breaking the law. It must be OK to pick and choose which laws you obey.}}}}
Yes, this would be a liberal venting, a Conservative wouldn’t be stupid enough to equate a moving traffic violation with illegally entering the U.S.
Why would we ever trust them with our National Security?
By Analchord.
September 3, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this
Hey, lets send a map to every Repudlickan Senator who doesn’t believe in science, (but then, I repeat myself).
By Analchord.
September 3, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this
Hey, lets draw graffitti maps on the back of the doors to the mensroom stalls, that way we’d get more Repudlickan to see maps.
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Hey, lets send maps to all the Repudlickan Senators who dont believe in science, (that’d be all of them.)
By WFC
September 3, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
Globalization is good IF you already have money (prices are lower) OR if you own a company that can outsource (lower costs and higher rofits.) Otherwise, not so good.
The Republican Party will take a beating in 2008 the likes of which they haven’t seen since 1964. “W” simply doesn’t get it when it comes to Iraq… a giant sink-hole of blood and treasure benefitting only his contractor friends. There was a REASON that Iraq was a brutal dictatorship for 25+ years. It was the only way to maintain stability and revent the Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds from killing each other. “W” was arrogant enough to believe that he could undo 1000+ years of tribal, sectarian violence. His old man knew better.
By Analchord.
September 3, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this
Repudlickan Senators dont need maps if the world is flooded and Noah is on the Ark. A blue piece of paper would be the map, so why bother?
Can you imagine Noah getting lost, and telling his wife, “Give me the map”, and grabbing a clean blue piece of paper, and going, “Okay, I think we’re here…I knew I shouldn’t have turned left at the wave…..”
“Why dont you get out and ask directions?” his wife would caution.
“And just who should I ask? One of those sharks with lazer beams attached to their heads? You go ask them, if you know so much.”
But seriously, folks, this totally explains why Repudlickan Senators dont need no stinking maps: They think the world is still flooded and Noah is floating around on an ark.
By Vitter
September 3, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this
Oh we believe in science all right.
My diaper has a map of the USA on the front and an American flag on the backside.
Of course the diaper was made in China, I guess thats where my rashes came from. Cheap diapers come at a price.
By mlmvh
September 3, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this
Cheryl wrote:
By Cheryl
September 1, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this
I would just love to get my mitts on Romney. He’s hot.
I going to vote for Mitt Romney. I cant wait to be alone behind that voting booth curtain.
Look, even though war is bad, overall nothing ever really happens. A few casualties, a couple bombs go off, some screaming and shouting, and nothing. Nothing ever really happens.
Things are fine. Bush done good. History will be kind to him. Dont you liberals ever get sick of debating every word Bush says? Let it go. Just let it go. Hell, we out think you, you can just say you got out-debated. Just let it go.
Enjoy the prosperity Bush hath wrought and just let it go.
Cheryl, I sincerely hope that you’re joking. If you’re not, you’re scaring me, and you’re making us women look really, really bad.
getalife mentioned that Duncan Hunter won the Texas Straw Poll, not Ron Paul. See the following link for the reason:
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=48297
In 2000, the Republican Party was riding high, with the Presidency, the Senate, and the House in its hands. People expected a change to smaller govt., but the GOP totally blew its chance. Now, the neocon-controlled GOP & the MSM are doing their best to suppress Ron Paul, the most principled candidate in the race, who’s energizing people to get involved in politics again. I’m beginning to think that the GOP would rather lose to the Democrats than support Ron Paul! Please google Ron Paul for more info on him!
By timetopissontheneoconscumandotherrepubicsublifeforms
September 3, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
You neocons definately have a smell - mendacity or urine, perhaps both.