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DEL.ICIO.USCorruption. What’d we expect?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The indictment Tuesday of a Fairburn businessman for allegedly bribing a former Atlanta Public School system technology director is an example of what can go wrong when unaccountable people are spending free money.
A federal grand jury indicted R. Clay Harris of Fairburn for allegedly paying $230,000 in bribes to Arthur Scott, the former APS technology director. Scott pleaded guilty in May to taking a total of $323,000 in bribes. His wife, Evelyn Myers Scott, pleaded guilty to wire and mail fraud conspiracy. Scott is cooperating with investigators and neither he nor his wife has yet been sentenced.
Harris’ technology company, Multimedia Communications Services, received more than $11 million over a two-year period from a federal E-rate program directing money to schools and libraries to build the infrastructure for high-speed Internet access, reports the AJC’s Ken Foskett and Paul Donsky.
The money came from a tax levied on consumer telephone bills and the spending program was administered by a quasi-governmental agency attached to the Federal Communications Commission.
It was a program on automatic pilot. Money accumulated and was spent, about $2 billion a year. The Atlanta school system spent more than $73 million, mostly federal money, between 1998 and 2002. Atlanta, under Scott’s direction, built one of the costliest and most sophisticated networks of any school district in the country. Harris’ company was among those given no-bid contracts.
Vendors were routinely paid too much and the system spent millions of dollars on gear that it didn’t need, Foskett and Donsky found in an series that prompted the federal investigation.
Here are the lessons:
No tax or “fee” should be levied for a specified purpose. If it’s important to do and a tax is warranted, it should go into the general treasury to be appropriated annually based on demonstrated need.
When individuals or local governments are spending “free” money, the sky’s the limit. Prices don’t matter, nor does actual need.
When it’s somebody else’s money, nobody’s in charge. Clearly they weren’t in the Atlanta school system.
When an obscure, unaccountable bureaucracy is doling out money with no expertise and no oversight, corruption is inevitable.
When politicians are spending based on good intentions, while providing for no accountability, the program is a boondoggle and can never be anything else.
No-bid contracts, except in dire emergencies or where no competitor exists, are invitations to cronyism and corruption. The era of set-asides and other competition-limiting purchasing practices should come to an end. Every contract should go to the lowest bidder capable of providing the goods or services.
Nobody accountable. No oversight. No bid. What’d we expect?
Comments
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this
Cartoon idea: That bare-chested beefcake photo of Putin: Is he auditioning for a guest appearance on “Cops”? (But then, as a liberal, I treat all terrorists as criminals with miranda rights, “watch your head, President Putin”, or “You have the right to remain a no good, dirty, lyin’ yellow piece of communist dictator trash….”)
By jbmlaw
August 29, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. Frankly I have trouble getting worked up about a piddling case of $11 million of corrupt spending. Seems to me the bureaucrat sold out cheap if he was able to extract only $300,000 or so. This guy must have had only Ted Stevens or similar Republicans as a role model. Too bad for him that the corrupt Pennsylvania Rep. Murtha was unable to seize power until this year, Arthur Scott could have learned from true masters. Last number I saw was that Murtha had raided the treasury for upwards of $150 million for his contributors. http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/murtha-nabs-150m-pork-2007-08-03.html And unlike Republicans, who had true transparency in the system and had the Congressional Research Office monitoring earmarks, the Democrats changed the system so that there is practically no advance information on earmarks, and severely limited the information provided and even the definitions of reportable “earmarks.” Unlike Republicans, who had a fair number of reformers opposing practically every earmark that came up, the Democrats seemingly have only one honest fellow opposing the corrupt system, Jim Cooper of Tennessee, and even Cooper has not spoken against any earmark. (I do not wish to disparage his truly courageous votes against Rep. Murtha’s corrupt system.) We are so disenchanted – we truly thought the Democrats would be different, or at least better.
By DebbieDoRight
August 29, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this
Nobody accountable. No oversight. No bid. What’d we expect?
Good lord Jim! I never thought I’d see the day!! Jim is actually criticizing the Bush/Cheney No bid contract debacle! Hot dang!! He’s finally said something against Haliburton’s “No Bid” contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan!!
No accountability/No oversight: Jim has finally admitted that Dumbya has no idea how to run this war and worst of all, doesn’t even care!!! He shipped millions of dollars worth of cash to a war torn country and it just disappeared!! No one has seen or heard about where the money has went since!!
And now, after getting all of our tax paid funded money for Iraq, the Iraqi leaders says, “See ya chumps!! We never liked you guys ANYWAY!! We’re going to hang out with our good friends Iran on your dime!” And then they flipped us the Iraqi equivalent of a bird!!
Hey, Jim’s right, What’d we expect!!!??!!
Jim, I’m so proud of you!! Finally admitting the horrible wrongs of the Dumbya administration!! And they say leopards, (or republicans) don’t change their spots!!!
By ABOUT DAMN TIME
August 29, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this
””“No-bid contracts, except in dire emergencies or where no competitor exists, are invitations to cronyism and corruption. The era of set-asides and other competition-limiting purchasing practices should come to an end. Every contract should go to the lowest bidder capable of providing the goods or services. “”“
Great Idea.
A few years to late to save billions in Iraq though.
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this
Leona Helmsley is getting more flak for her $12 million gift to her dog than Vick got for the surprises he gave to his dogs.
The King and Queen of Mean should both plead “insanity”.
By Dennis
August 29, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
Jim Wooten writes,”When it’s somebody else’s money, nobody’s in charge.” Welcome to reality, Jim. How long have we been trying to tell you that about the Bush administration?
Which is it, you intentionally ignored us or you just didn’t want to admit it?
In fact, did you intentionally not mention that in today’s column? Hummm.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By MELO
August 29, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this
I give respect to that corrupt official who got or gave a bribe BUT not to your friends Jim, who solicit for sex from MEN in bathrooms BUT call themselves CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES AND RAIL ROAD GAYS,LESBIANS ETC.AND THEY DO NOT CONSIDER THEMSELVES GAY. WTF
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this
Wooten’s American Dream Exposed? The only way capitalism works is if you cheat. Without corruption, nobody could afford those big McMansion going up and intimidating everybody.
If we all made 1 million dollars by cronyism. or with no-bid contracts or brokering labor, then we would have a 300 trillion dollar economy.
The american dream is a lie. 300 trillion. R U all that stupid?
Cant you see? Capitalism is slavery for 90% of us. The Leona Helmsleys then give the blood money to their dogs rather than let it alleviate human misery. Death tax much? (how about an ugly tax for her smirking countenance too?)
She’s laughing at us from doggy heaven, where she and tammy fay baker are waking up with fleas.
Time for revolution. Hillary 08.
Let the McRoves flee. We have a country to save and a world to convince.
It’s not going to be pretty folks, as we take our country back, but it is our divine destiny.
First the ballot. then 100 million man marches. Then we hold a gigantic clothing-optional woodstock for the aging babyboomers. Then we invite Keith Richards to play the unplugged version of……ugh……
(the ajc has revoked this moron’s right to blog for inciting sex, drugs and rock-and-roll one too many times on this blog, we now return control to the normal people…blog on, garth)
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this
CNN just reported that the charges against Sen. Craig have been reduced to violating the Saggy Pants Ordinance in that Airport Men’s Room………ew
By Redneck Convert
August 29, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this
Well, down at Billy Bob’s last night all the boys was being real careful not to touch somebody else’s shoe with their shoe. People was leaving at least one stool between them and the next guy at the bar. They was so far apart they had to shout at each other to talk. And I noticed they was going to the bathroom one at a time. I guess this Sen. Craig has started something. My buddy Jim Earl got a big laugh when he called Joe Bill Wide Stance. Anyway, the libruls ain’t going to let it go till they run the godly Sen. Craig out of the senate. But we just sewed up the gay vote for 2008. They will all look at Republicans as gay, what with Rep. Foley and now Sen. Craig holding up the party banner.
Now a few words about the bribing going on in the Atlanta schools. Nobody should be suprized when Those People start getting bribed over taxpayer money. Oncet they get in charge of something they start using it like a piggy bank. Just look at Grady. Those People don’t want to turn loose of the place and let it be run by another board because then they will loose their piggy bank. It happens all over. Just look at this Jefferson guy when he got elected to Congress. He started making so much money from office he had to store some of it in a freezer. I guess his desk and dresser drawers was already full of cash. Yep, another one of Those People.
What makes me mad is I was paying for the bribes when I paid my phone bill. I never knowed the phone bill was being used to collect a tax that would go straight to Those People. Only they don’t call it a tax. From now on if I’m being taxed I want it called a tax. Then I can vote the people that voted for it out of office. I don’t want to have to read thru a phone bill that looks like the national budget and figure out which fee is really a tax.
Well, I’m off on my beer run. I hope Sister Dusty will hold down the fort and run the Northreners that pertend to be Southreners off of this blog. Yesterday some of them got a taste of what she’s like when she has a hangover. They better not cross her if they know what’s good for them. She got a thumbnail that ain’t been cut since she was in 9th grade.
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this
MELO: remember, oral sex is not technically sex, nor is any sex outside the bounds of traditional marriage recognized as legitimate sex by the evangelical right and other decent folk, so, therefore, Sen. Craig committed no sex act, and should be allowed to leap frog justice, reach around consequences, and simple blow away free as a bird flip…..(did I miss a cliche?)
By RCH
August 29, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this
Rovespierre There are many who studied hard, made the right choices, worked many an hour and sacrificed much of their lives to live in those McMansions. I guess you are not one of them.
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this
Maybe Sen. Craig should claim he was acting as temporary mensroom attendant and merely wanted to shine the undercover cop’s shoes…….and comb his pubehairs…and wipe his azz….and check his prostate…..wait, that would be only if the men’s room was in grady hospital…….butt still……ew…..
man, what a field day for comedians, eh? this stuff writes itself, come on, join in..pile on…….ew…..
By Jackie
August 29, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this
The corruption being reported here is nothing compared to the corruption in Iraq. News reports of the missing 150,000 weapons supplied by the USA has found the investigation leading to the office of a high-ranking officer in the command of Gen. Petraeus. When do we get an accounting for the $11 Billion dollars that is unaccounted for in Iraq? when does the Pentagon find $2 trillion dollars; why are we supplying Israel and Saudia Arabia $50 and $32 Billion dollars in direct grants for “security?” Investigate the corruption of the criminals in the White House!
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this
That a lie, RCH. If we all worked hard and made enough to buy those McMansions, then we’d have a 300 trillion dollar economy.
There’s not 300 trillion dollars on the planet.
Capitalism is slavery for 90% of the capitalists.
I say we start over. First, we death-tax the rich and use the money to balance our budget. Obviously Leona Helmsley proves the rich cant be trusted with their own money.
Agree?
By ron
August 29, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
Aren’t you people listening?Senator Craig is not guilty and not gay.He simply pleaded guilty because he forgot to consult an attorney.Sometimes Senators do funny things in the absence of an attorney.Doesn’t anyone believe him?I’ll bet he wouldn’t take a bribe either.
By DemDems4Ever
August 29, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this
Based upopn the years the abused program was operational the HERO of Democrats, William J. Clinton, was in office. Hardly a surprise since Clinton abused everybody from the intern down to the taxpayer.
Melo and Rovespissant, Clinton was also the one who initiated the idea oral sex was not sex, along with several other tradionally sexual acts like rape, solicitation to sodomy, etc.
Is it true Hillary married Bill so she could have his culls and seconds? Now she hopes to be President and Bill can have her castoffs. What a wonderful group of people you liberals are!
Back to the bumper stickers:
Hillary in ‘08 - Daisychains in the White House
By RCH
August 29, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this
Rovespierre
I guess you missed your calling. The Soviet Union and communism died long ago.
If you are a slave , answer me this. If you earn more than 37k a year you are in the top 96% of wage earners in the world.
By MELO
August 29, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this
Pit that wife of the Senator.She seems decent, but kinda old to give him some.And she was standing there, believing him when he said’i am not gay’, i just wanted a blow job coz i aint getting none!! WTF. So whats the difference with what Clinton did. Well, at least Clinton like oral from Barbara and Monica not John and James, like these Repugnants do!! They are Coming Out and Shipping Out of Washington fast!!
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this
Capitalism, Religion, and now our Republic is being used to enrich the handful of McRoves. It’s not fair to the family of mankind.
Imagine what the world thinks of Leona Helmsely’s gift to her dog? We are going to experience a karmic rage sent via the solar winds from the very foundations of the star stuff we ourselves are made out of.
Look to Marie Antoinette and the filthy rabble she enflamed. The Mean McRoves are doing the same to the world’s filthy rabble and little people.
It’s an blatant injustice and it skews the balance of natural law. It cannot stand. A planet divided against itself will implode.
If we would just enforce the laws that are on the books, we’d stop most corruption, but the system is corrupt all the way to the supreme court, (witness Scalia).
Cronyism in the courts? That’s what will destroy us. The founding fathers knew it all too well, and why they set up a fool proof system of checks and balances. Fool proof, not corruption proof. Like jury-nullification, we’ve got traitor nullification in our government.
That’s why I think we should have bought the Traitor Insurance when we elected Bush. (the 8-year extended warranty, thumper to thumper)
thump speech, get it?
By GodHatesTrash
August 29, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this
Still in the top 50!
Georgia’s average SAT score this year was still 46th in the nation, according to figures released Tuesday by the College Board. And that’s the good news. The bad news is that both Georgia students and their counterparts across the nation scored lower than last year’s crop of seniors.
Members of Georgia’s class of 2007 posted an average score of 1,472 on the SAT, which tests students in reading, writing and math, well below the national average score of 1,511.
State Schools Superintendent Kathy Cox put the best face she could on the numbers, noting that while Georgia’s score fell five points from last year, the national average plummeted by seven points.
“Georgia’s high school seniors kept pace with the nation … which is good news,” she said. “Of course, we won’t be satisfied until Georgia is a leader in SAT performance.”
Ain’t gonna happen anytime in the next few centuries.
Face it, trash.
By DemDems4Ever
August 29, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this
Washington=Corruption and,
Corruption=Washington.
Both parties participate and the party in the majority has more options than the party in the minority - thus the no-limit campaigns and the say or do anything mentality to return to power.
Blame Republicans now but since the Dems took over Congress the promised restraints on earmarks and corruption have not happened and in fact the rules have been weakened.
Where is all the liberal vitriol on the earmark issue? Oh yes, as long as the Dems are receiving the benefits the liberals do not care.
Do you see the folly of aligning with either the Republicans or Democrats? They both lie for your vote and then give you the shaft once in Washington.
There are no true liberals or conservatives in Congress, ok maybe a few but they have no power, because once in Congress the Members work in consort to stay there and teh American public be damned.
By RCH
August 29, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
Rovespierre Try Cuba. They would love you there.
By Senator Vitter
August 29, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
There’s a silver lining in Senator Craig’s difficulties… some people might think that playing footsies and pen^s-spying in an airport mens’ room is weirder than playing diaper dress-up with a Loseriana whor-emama.
Well, maybe not.
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
Michael Jackson also said that he’s not guilty and not gay.
I believe him. Remember when Elizabeth Taylor sat there supporting him in that statement she read during the height of the scandal?
Maybe ELizabeth Taylor should read a statement to reporters in support of Sen. Craig too.
That’s it! A cartoon idea for the Luchovich contest: Liz Taylor supporting Sen. Craig at a News Conference.
By Peter
August 29, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Good Point by Jim Whooten today…..
Now hopefully he will write about the same corruption in the Bush administration……
HA HA HA…….I doubt that
Why admit to the lies of the WAR ……
By Dusty
August 29, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this
Redneck Convert @9:06
Well, Redneck, you did make me laugh this morning even if you are as worthless as Confederate money.
But it did offset the anti-warriors who jumped right in on Jim’s write-up of local malfeasance and declared the sky is falling on America’s war efforts. And caused by the GOP—who else??? They don’t remember terrorists. WHO???
Of course our anti-warriors (or is it auntie warriors) forgot to mention Sen. Feinstein(D) who was on the committee that approved super large Iraqi contracts to her husband’s company or Murtha(D)who uses his position to make big money for “his locals”. No indeed!! It is all the fault of (guess? guess?) BUSH!!
Now, redneck, I know it is only the middle of the week and not Saturday night bath time, but PLEASE, hop in the shower. It is good aroma therapy. Also you need to scrub off the vestiges of liberalism that hide under your….err….Southernism. Go for it!!
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
Oh, RCH? Cubans enjoy a good political satire? I’ll think about touring there.
Glad you like the material..Feel free to steal, then folks’ll think that YOU’RE the genius instead of the……(fill in the blank, anyone)….you truly are.
By JohnD
August 29, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
*Roves…
There’s not 300 trillion dollars on the planet.
The US has over 2 trillion, yes with a T, barrels of oil reserves in the Rocky Mountains and Colorado oil shale. More oil than the rest of the world combined.
The price of oil is generally accepted to be above $100 a barrel in the next 2-3 years, or less.
Saudi Arabia, and the other OPEC members, are routinely over-stating their reserves in order to produce more under the current OPEC guidelines. Saudi Arabia reports over 250 million in reserves but this is generally regarded as 4-5 times their actual reserves. The same is true of the other OPEC nations. Do you see where this is going?
A trillion dollar debt? So what? Trade deficit? So what? The future Roves…, not the past will define the place in the world for the US. The US will control the energy that moves the world. China and the rest of the developed, and developing nations, will have to come to us, the US, to meet their energy demands.
“… not $300 trillion on the planet”. There will be $300 trillion in the United States.
By time to stop cyber pollution
August 29, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
would someone please kick or push the psychotic narcissistic utterly unfunny obsessive nutter aborted foreskin/rovespenisenvy under a MARTA train or bus.
thanks very much!!
By Typical Georgia Redneck
August 29, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this
Me and my buddy TFTT are a little cranky this AM - these arrests in the Hartsfield restrooms have put a big cramp in our dating. Somebody wanna drop a load on my English buddy? S/he’ll feel better, and so will you. Meet her in the bushes at Piedmont Park.
Thanks!
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
Well, I never….!!!!
By jm
August 29, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw@8:39 - Dan Rostenkowski was the true master, Murtha, and all who came later are poor imitations. Also, despite his graft, Rostenkowski was able to keep the trains running on time.
By kill a liberal queer for christ
August 29, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this
I see the resident AIDS ridden queer is back at its daily filthy homo obsession, stalking its intellectual and genetic conservative betters. The one never wavering constant on here is putrid pinko pukes puking up their queeralicious fantasies.
Wittily paraphrasing a black racist virulently anti-white commie terrorist group in Sud AfriKa:
one dumb liberal queer - one dum dum bullet
By jm
August 29, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this
Actually, many of Mr. Wooten’s lessons also apply to the shenanigan’s that took place under the CPA in a middle east country that shall not be named (and are still taking place).
By Mid-South Philosopher
August 29, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Jim,
We are in complete agreement on this issue. Big dollars and unchecked bureaucracy in any institution from the government to the schools to the religious organizations is a recipe for fraud and abuse.
With respect to religious and private institutions, it is up to the participants who choose to be a part of those to deal with the slop.
As for public institutions, NEVER should contracts be awarded without bids. No emergency is that dire and, if there are NO competitors, the situation should be controlled under monopoly regulations. If there are not any good monopoly regulations, the Congress and the various state legislatures should sober-up and pass some.
By Dusty
August 29, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this
jm@10:30
Would you be so kind as to send Delta the e-mail address of Rostenkowski? I think they could use him. Trains on time!! Planes on time!! Ahhhhh…(and a little graft at Hartsfield Jackson ATL is rarely noticed.)
By time for a secular future
August 29, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this
It was freaking hilarious to see the dog killing hippety hop human scum Vick puking up its pathetic, utterly predicktable “I now GLEEFULLY walk with the lord” bollocks at its shameful, utterly disingenuous - I gotta save my dosh press conference.
The best single book I’ve ever read on religion is the side splittingly funny - superbly sardonic, fact filled logocentric evisceration god is not GREAT by fellow Brit Christopher Hitchens. It is a superb read, although ‘pitched’ at a much higher level than the average unthinking cut and run liberal is used to.
Whilst most of the rational, unassailable arguments/points Hitchens makes are hardly original (nor does he claim they are) —see The Age Of Reason, The god Delusion, The Secular Bible, Why I am Not A Christian, Why I Am Not A Mohammedan etc— having such unerring wisdom distilled into around 300 pages is a mighty fine present for anyone with an open inquiring mind.
Only folks with closed minds refuse to read such tomes, fearful that their dogma and fideism, however heartfelt may be fatally undermined by systematic rationality.
By getalife
August 29, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
Jim fails to address the perverted, mens room, freak, elephant in the room.
Time to take a permanent vacation Jim.
Geez.
By deegee
August 29, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
There are thousands of school districts across the country that spend Erate money wisely and provide a benefit to their districts, Forsyth County, GA being one of them. What happened in Atlanta was a breakdown in morality at the top. The district was run with a “get all you can get while you can get it” mentality. There were corrupt people with spending authority that made sure that they spent every dime they could get their hands on. Consulting companies, like MCSC are hired by the school districts and so many other government agencies to do the work of marginally qualified people that are on the government payroll. The consultants don’t care how the money is spent as long as they get their share. The vendors that sold the hardware to the district had to know that they were overselling, but they kept on shipping. You can’t send every project out for bid, but you can ensure that the people running your district are running it with integrity.
By time for the truth
August 29, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
@ mid south
bollocks … there have been two fairly glaring exceptions to your rather typical shrill leftist assertions.
Both the liberation of Iraq and Katrina are major, fast moving (pun intended) events that have required speedy reactions to numerous problems that simply could not have waited for the usual long winded (racist quota) tendering process. Undeniably, as we saw, Haliburton were the ONLY company both capable logistically/expertise wise and on the ground locally/regionally to perform as needed in Iraq. The niceties of “monopoly regulations” would NOT have been appropriate in a bloody war zone.
I do agree that tendering is preferrable in every instance pragmatically possible. And that corruption is invariably inevitable without it.
By Funny
August 29, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
So is it about time FamilyValuesParty Sen. Craig of Idaho Found Jesus and went to rehab to watch lesbian porn and get certified as non-gay?.
By Bushwanked
August 29, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
You’d think if Wooten wanted to show examples of government corruption in regards to tax money, he would have used Iraq. There is no better example. But that would look bad for Bush, and he wouldn’t want that.
Dusty - I asked you yesterday whether you would critisize TFTT for his racist posts, but of course you totally ingnored the reference - and question - and instead turned it into the “TFTT is not a southerner” deal. Let me try one more time. You were critical of someone making racist posts. Will you also critisize one of you “own?” I know where the hell he is from.
Also - Dusty - you made a comment yesterday that still has me laughing. That being that Liberals are the main ones saying our education system is rotton. (Thus their support for vouchers) Just listen to any of the conservative talking heads and they all bash our education system. Want some local proof? Turn on Boortz today and you are guarenteed to hear him bash “government” schools.
I have a good friend who is a strong republican, working in education, and that’s his main gripe with his party - that they have always put down public education.
And for calling me “unamerican” yesterday? I forgot that anyone who critisizes the president in your eyes is unamerican.
You’re pathetic.
By RCH
August 29, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
It is apparent that without accountability this type of corruption will always be prevalent in anything the government is associated with at any level. Again, this reemphasises the need for privatized schools and school vouchers. Could any private business survive following this government model?
I would like to know if SAT scores are avaiable from private High Schools? And if so how do they compare to the Georgia average?
By BS Aplenty
August 29, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
Jim, it is one heckuva beautiful day even with a little rain.
I read with no small amusement Paul Krugman’s editorial on “kiddie healthcare” in yesterday’s AJC. As you’d expect, Krugman strains like a constipated octagenarian to connect his stated “right” to free education with the “right” to free healthcare - for children. He fails to mention that neither are rights nor are they free. According to his warped logic, children deserve healthcare more than moms and dads. Typical socialist drivel from the folks who gave you communism and the kibbutz - neither of which work over long periods of time (re: Social Security & Medicare).
Now, to my liberal friends on this blog, if you’re happy with the cost of those dismal SAT scores in this state, particularly in the Atlanta public schools, then I’ve got to believe that Krugman’s kiddie healthcare is set to give us oh-so-much more of the same socialist incompetence and bloated flatulence.
So to Mr. Krugman and other liberals I say, just take two heapin’ spoonfuls of Metamucil and read Adam Smith’s The Wealth of Nations.
By GHT's Mammy (Sooo-wee)
August 29, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
Boy, it’s time to cum on home and feed dem pigs. I don’t know what yousa bin gibbin’ em but they sho’ nuf gotta great big smile after you “fill the trough.”
We seen yo pappy on ‘merica’s most wanted but they caint locates him now - yo sistah, paprika, sends her luv. she also been smilin’ when she talks about yous, hmmm…
Yo Mammy
By RCH
August 29, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
BS Aplenty
The liberals already have a built in escape clause. It was stated more Hispanics and others took the exam therefor test scores dropped. They welcomed this diversity. Spin, Spin, and more spin.
By tiem for the harsh but true truth
August 29, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this
Welcome GHT’s mammy … nice to c an obese sluttish scabies ridden wh ore lyke urselffff joining in all the fun sneering at your demon seed yanKKKee child rapist test tube made piglet/rattle snake mix offspring.
GHT’s now transgendered quadraplegic pappy is actually a wanted for vile crimes against human lice escapee from a homosexual NAMBLA leper colony in queer turd burglin’ lovin’ San Fran Sicko.
By Carole
August 29, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this
Wouldn’t you know that RCH would weigh in with one of his racist, bigoted comments. Your cancer is gone from our office RCH, but we will never give you a moments peace to perpetuate your fraud on the people of this blog. RCH has this blog taken the place of Mrs Vasquez? Since you no longer have her to physically assault, do you get your jollies verbally assaulting hispanics here in this blog? You are one sorry, pitiful human being RCH. But the great thing about all this RCH, is all of your racist rants, bigoted comments, and hate messages aren’t going to change anything. The latinos will always be a better class of people than you. So take your skinhead and your jailhouse tatoos that you are so proud of on back under that rock that you were born under you slimy worm.
By Bushwanked
August 29, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
TFTT - Not sure where the “peeping tom” reference is from, but I post here maybe only 4 or 5 times a week, and always under Bushwanked. And I know what kind of vile, disgusting, and yes, racist posts you make daily. You must live a pitiful life - so much full of hate. And “your dumb liberal queer, one dum dum bullett” shows real class.
For the life of me, I don’t know why Wotten allows you on this blog. Says alot about Wooten…..
By deegee
August 29, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
What do you think happens when you spend $3 billion a week?
The revised supplemental would total about $200 billion, indicating that the cost of the war in Iraq now exceeds $3 billion a week. The bill also covers the far smaller costs of the war in Afghanistan. The Pentagon said recently that the cost of the Iraq war has surpassed $330 billion, while the war in Afghanistan has cost $78 billion.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20485844/
By Dusty
August 29, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
Bushwanked @ 11:29
If I wanted to answer a bunch of dumb questions (like yours), I would go on one of those TV shows that pays off for answers.
Your ID explains your attitude. LIBERAL on board!!
Glad you know ONE educator. Hope you meet more. Maybe you will meet one who does not knock the system but tries to improve it. That’s what we need.
(PS..I never use “unAmerican”. The correct title is anti-American. You may use that for your ID if you like.)
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
The Queen of Mean is dead. Long live the new Queen of Mean: (Sen. Craig)!!
Sen Craig is the Queen of Latrine, but if you read his nasty remarks about that Idaho Newspaper, (Stateman), then he’s truly the new Queen of Mean.
Leona Helmsley, may she rest in peace, is getting more flak for her $12 million gift for her dog than Vick got for the surprises he gave to his dogs.
Maybe both Vick and Leona should plead “insanity”.
Cartoon Idea 4 Luchovich contest: Show Elizabeth Taylor reading her support for Sen. Craig at a news conference. (ala M. Jackson). BTW: I hope Sen. Craig had at least on glove on considering what he had in mind…….ew!
By tiem to b iiiitchslap leftist liars
August 29, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this
@ Bushwankpig
come on bubbaturd - tell me EXACTLY what is “racist” in my posts. ALL SCUM LIKE YOU do is endlessly puke up your emotive sick and twisted far leftist smears/lies. I do NOT post “racist” material. Clearly like most liberal vermin you have NO understanding of the word.
my dumb queer/dum dum bullet jibe was a clever witty sardonic parody of a BLACK RACIST TERROR GROUP in Sud AfriKa. Though the original slogan “one settler - one bullet” was about killing WHITE farmers.
Doubtless you will now vehemently condemn the commie scumbag Pan AfriKan Congress for their blatant anti-white racism!!
By JustAskin
August 29, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
Dusty are you that fat chick Dusty that posts on wifelovers.com? Are you THAT Dusty? No wonder your husband went and got himself a girlfriend. You are REALLY REALLY BIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGG!
By Captain Freedom
August 29, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
At the risk of riling Sister Dusty and her Terrible Thumbnail of Vengeance, THE Captain wishes to stand at her withery side to declare his stalwart support of her support of Our Leader’s Untiring Effort to Keep America Safe from Terra.
THE Captain reminds you that not a single terra attack has hit Our Nation since 9/11. That should be enough to get the nambypamby libwetters to quit griping about the color-coded terror alert system, which has kept us safe and secure through its sophisticated use of shade and hue. But no, it seems nothing pleases these America-hating atheists.
Also, THE Captain has just finished watching TV coverage of Our Leader (Acompanied by his amazingly lifelike she-companion Laura) as he celebrated the destruction of that liberal cesspool New Orleans. This reminds me to remind you all — Godly True Believers and Tratorous Liberals alike — that Our Leader has kept us safe from Cat 5 Hurricanes for 2 full years as of today. And yet he is accused of incompetence and has an approval rating mired in the mid-20s. Criminy, people…even the adultering rapist Clenis had the approval of 70% of the nation even as he was being impeached for getting a Craig from that Lewinsky girl. Perhaps PT Barnum was right.
So, stand down, you bedwetting Islamoanarchosyndicaliberals.
THE Captain has spoken.
By time for the harsh truth
August 29, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
OH Carole … you unhinged demented feminazi slapper hag … that was absolutely fabulous.
RCH has NEVER posted anything bigoted or racist. Neither have I.
You leftist vermin always cretinously and dishonestly confuse legitimate factual comment about illegal leeches with “racism”. Its the mexican type leeches who are racist - their racist radio station -their racist terminology and anti-white/American attitudes. their point blank refusal to integerate and obey immigration and traffic etc laws
By Tommy
August 29, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
time for the harsh truth, aren’t you late for your bathroom stall meeting with Senator Craig. Better hurry before he takes matters in hand and you get no lunch today.
By Captain Freedom
August 29, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this
THE Captain wishes to testify that TFTT is no more racist than Sen Craig (True Believer - Idaho) is a chowder gobbling Friend of Dorothy. Like Sen Craig, TFTT is merely intimidated that large black men (hippity hoppity thugs, in his quaint vernacular) will beat him and rob him, and this makes him unable to resiste ej@cul@ting his so-called “thoughts” onto this forum.
Indeed, TFTT and Sen Craig have much in common.
By kill a leftist f aggot for jesus
August 29, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this
Its fabulous fun watching these sicko treasonous liberal queers trying like rabid skool yard bullies to bully Dusty like a group of screeching psychotic ageing bathhouse rentboys.
justanarsehole - are you that bloated lard arsed syphilitic Bwarney Fwank sex toy that joyously flatulates whenever a mincing demoNcrat voting billygoat walks by??
By WhiteAnglo
August 29, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this
Over the course of the next 6 months or so, I will be assisting various organizations around Georgia to register as many Latino voters as possible. RCH has convinced me that it is imperative that this country be taken back from racist trash like him. Anyone care to join me in bringing about the domination of nativist trash like RCH?
By RCH
August 29, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this
Carole You have taken Nancy Reagan’s advice and just have said “No”. Now I understand why many follow the rantings of social politicians. They cannot make their own choices or except their own responsibility for failure. However you can not argue with fact. Try reading the paper you blog on;
Combined math and reading SAT scores for the high school class of 2007 were the lowest in eight years — a trend the College Board attributed largely to the good news that a more diverse pool of students is taking the exam.The number of black students taking the SAT rose 6 percent, and the number of test-takers calling themselves “Other Hispanic, Latino or Latin American” (a group that does not include Puerto Ricans or Mexican Americans) rose 27 percent.
By queer bashing leftist queers is one's national duty
August 29, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this
Dear oh dear - I see that Lance Korporal Syphilis has finally been forcibly kicked out of the badly bewildered section 8 f aggots school for treasonous pinko maggots. Syphilis is undoubtedly NO more queer than its minimum wage paymaster and extremely harsh butch taskmaster Bwarney Fwank of Assachussets Cut and Run LIBERAL QUEERS R US infamy. Syphilis has repeatedly failed both the Assachussets and San Fran Sicko “emissions” test because its negative sperm count emissions are filled to the f aghead brim with toxic blush pinkkk Liberace Kool Aid.
By LMAO!
August 29, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
RCH, I think that it is funny as hell that in close elections the Latino vote can be the deciding factor. I find it rather ironic that you and all your racist, bigot, nativist scumbucket klan brethren are so at the mercy of the Latino populace now. ROFL!
By Morris Dees
August 29, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this
Hey RCH! How does it feel to be winning all these little immigratrion battles only to lose the war at the ballot box. Dumb is as dumb does RCH. And you and your ilk really do dumb with the best of them.
By time to deprat all mexican illegal leeches now
August 29, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
@ WhiteLyingArsehole
Just make sure that NONE of the mexican types you register are grasping anti-American illegal leeches … OOOOOOOPS WAY TOO LATE!!!
I’d like to make a donation to your worthless racebaiting cause. Do you provide specimen cups for donations?
FUNNY HOW THESE LEFTIST SCUM endlessly SCREECH “RACISM” but never ever provide any actual factual examples of this!!
By Captain Freedom
August 29, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this
THE Captain is gratified to see that TFTT is, as ever, so easy to wind up and reel in. Like TFTT himself, the slimmest bait always manages to do the trick.
By Sonny
August 29, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this
It’s a good thing that RCH and all his white trash dropout buds from down at the klavern didn’t take that test. Talk about a drag on the bell curve.
By time for Syphilis to play Russian Roulette with a loaded Uzi
August 29, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this
Poor old Syphilis … it’s happily now end stage Syphilis means that like any archetypal leftist cretin it now confuses the moderate pleasure of imperiously sneering at it with some demented cut and run pyhrric victory.
By Sam
August 29, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this
I couldn’t resist folks. I had to go over to wifelovers and check out Dusty’s posts there. She is a biggun folks. Now we know what she is doing when she isn’t blogging.
By to all my conservative brethren
August 29, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this
. . what have you gained when you’ve bested a (liberal) fool? . .
By Captain Freedom
August 29, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this
That TFTT. He’s like clockwork!! It’s a marvel of nature!!
Everybody play along…toss the boy a bone and watch him snap and chew. He’ll even make up a new name for every post.
Well, it’s one way to compensate for having no life.
By time to verbally baseball bat racist liberals
August 29, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this
I see the illegal leech lovin’ - the usual cheap 50 cent tricks for willing risk taking liberal racists -are effetely and obsessively attempting to as ever dishonestly goad RCH. Funny how these craven yellowbellied should have been aborted pandering surrender monkkkeys always pick on a soft target who doesn’t “fight” back!!
one bullet - one liberal … see how “racist” black liberation commie thug slogans have their uses!!
By RCH
August 29, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this
Sonny,Morris Dees,LMAO
Please spare me your rantings. Lets just stick to the facts. Complain to the Editor of the AJC for they printed this story. Make your excuses to them.
By Syphilis oozes again
August 29, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
Superciliously humouring the rat turd Syphilis is passably entertaining for a few posts. But Syphilis still as ever despicably dissembles - it simply cannot stand being sneered back at. After being very deservedly abused by a sullen, depraved abusive control freak uncle/pappy its used to screeching loudest and longest in its KKKatrina refugee trailer park with NO one capable of responding in intelligble English.
I really hate leftist COCKroaches smirk
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this
Anyone see that bare-chested beefcake photo of Putin? What, is he auditioning for a guest appearance on “Cops”?
But then, as a liberal, I see all terrorists as criminals with miranda rights, “Watch your head, President Putin”, or “You have the right to remain fascist commie dictator trash…”
By RCH
August 29, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this
By to all my conservative brethren
Very well said.
By B#tchSlapRCH
August 29, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this
RCH STFU. You’re a women beater and a racist. YOU can’t change the fact that ANY time the faintest hint of something munutely concerning Latinos comes up, that you take the opportunity to jump on it with both feet. Your record here speaks for itself RCH. Slither back into the sewer that you dwell in scumbag. And take your skinhead buddies with you trash bag.
By Dusty
August 29, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this
Well, what do ya know? Captain Freedom (12:31)of the droopy drawers element has exposed himself as Redneck Convert.
Cappie has become the James Bond of the Luckless Group of Lyng Liberals ever on the watch for drive by conservatives. Nab one there!! Accuse one here!! Stand up for justice, freedom and the defamation of all Republicans. What joi de vivre! What complicity!!
Ah yes, our elitist Captain and his poor country cousin Redneck—-all one and the same in the pail of phonies. This is inpsirational! I think that I shall write a poem “Slugs, Drugs and Libs”. Maybe not. But the day is still young.
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this
Sen. Craigs vitriolic remarks about the Idaho Newspaper (Statesman) make him the new Queen of Mean!
By Captain Freedom
August 29, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this
By Dusty
Well, what do ya know? Captain Freedom (12:31)of the droopy drawers element has exposed himself as Redneck Convert.
Wrong again, Fusty. But thanks for thinking of me.
By deport all illegal leeches now
August 29, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this
RCH STFU. You’re a women beater and a racist. YOU can’t change the fact that ANY time the faintest hint of something munutely concerning Latinos comes up, that you take the opportunity to jump on it with both feet. Your record here speaks for itself RCH. Slither back into the sewer that you dwell in scumbag. And take your skinhead buddies with you trash bag.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA … LMFAO!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA still LMFAO!!
poor wittle dogsqueeze diddums
If????? (which clearly he aint) he is a “woman beater” in your unhinged racist haggish case its absolutely necessary for national security!!!
That was a classic … got any more bigoted turdbrained bollocks like that bubbaturd???
mexican type illegal leeches need to be rounded up and sent back en masse - preferrably at a low cost to the taxpayer in cattle trucks on US railway lines and then LIVE ON FOX NEWS - with enough warning to make sufficient popcorn for the millions of watching over joyed folks - chased back over the snake infested Rio Grande at machine gun point by the Border Patrol!!
GOOD BLOODY RIDDANCE TO ALL 20 MILLION OF THEM!!!
now where’s my DAMN hissy fit you selfish gutless illegal leech anglo hating pu$$y??
By Redneck Convert
August 29, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this
Well, I pert near choked on a chicken weenie when I read Sister Dusty thinks I’m Captain Freedom. Sorry, Sister Dusty. He uses words I can’t even say, much less spell.
It looks like TFTT is ready for his treatment again. I knowed there was a reason England kicked him out. The poor man is eat up with hate. He needs to be more Southren. Us Southreners know how to hate just as bad but put on a good front about it.
By Dusty
August 29, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
Captain Freedom 1:45
The guilty always plead innocent, redneck.
By Dusty
August 29, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this
redneck@1:48
Ok ok..you are two PHONIES instead of one. See how agreeable I am?
(But even one is TOO many.)
By time for the commie hating truth
August 29, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this
After being effortlessly verbally lynched yet again by yours truly Syphilis like a rabid mongrelisedcoonhound slithers back into its hatefilled multi-persona hell and lets inbred redneKKK out of its liberal snakepit to puke again.
Inbred redneKKK LIES like a KKKlinton - that werent NO “chicken” weenie you was chokkkin’ on bubbaturd - it was the chickenhawk Lance Korporal Syphilis’s flaccid COCKtail mini-sausage!!!
Now go crash that stolen fictional beer lorry into something useful inbred - like a Barak the big eared vacuous magic negro petrol guzzling motorcade!!
By Atlanta Pearl Girl
August 29, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this
It’s always amazing to me…. how pepole want to make themselves seem so ignorant.
APS has long since lagged behind in so many ways…… the children are the ones who suffer….and they are the ones SAGGIN.
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this
Dusty, this isn’t a my space chatroom where you can post off topic AND post after the blog has been closed.
You continue to violate the rules and I see no other choice but to report you and insist that you banned for life.
Try to blog like a total human being and not just the body parts, (like twinkies, pinkies, and clinkies).
By GreyGayGeek
August 29, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this
Dusty @ 1:49 The guilty always plead innocent, redneck
Just like Go-Go-Gonzo? And Sen. Craig? And Rep. Foley? And…and…and?
By SAD TRUTH
August 29, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this
Jim, I can’t believe this kind of utter nonsense is what you had in mind when you started this blog. OF the first 87 comments (minus those of TFTT and his many alter egos, which I just skip over) a whopping 13 were actually on topic. The rest are not even remotely connected with the subject, and many are down right offensive. You can’t be proud of this blog. You need to do something to regain control. This is garbage.
By Bushwanked
August 29, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this
Dusty - you would never make it on one of those TV shows that pays off for answers. Because you never answer them. Never.
And the Educator I was talking about (I know many of them and am actually married to one) does not knock the system, he works hard everyday to improve it. What he knocks is the way the party he is a member of hammers it every day.
For you to suggest that Liberals are the main ones who says our system is rotton shows how stupid, or partisan, you are (take your pick). If the Republicans don’t think it is rotton, why are they pushing vouchers? Why does Boortz dump on “government” education every day?
Oh, I forgot, you don’t answer questions.
By GreyGayGeek
August 29, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
Bushwanked, Dusty can’t answer questions because s/he is just a parrot of whatever Today’s Republican Talking Point might be. Sqaaaaaaaaaaawk!
By Dusty
August 29, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
GGG@2:09
Alberto Gonzales is an honest man.
I will let you speak for Craig and Foley since I am not familiar with their style of proclivities.
By Curious Observer
August 29, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this
I can see a case for dedicating revenues derived from telephone or other fees to such projects as providing 911 services, or even for dedicating revenue from gasoline taxes to the maintenance and building of roads. I see no case for funding APS computer equipment by such means. That error, and not the bribery case, should be the focus of today’s blog.
It is yet another instance in which politicians have exercised cowardice. Rather than using regular tax funds for such purposes and perhaps incurring the wrath of voting taxpayers, city officials were permitted to impose what is essentially a surcharge on customers of telephone services. It is a tactic at least as cowardly as imposing outrageous motel/hotel room taxes on powerless non-residents.
Perhaps our legislature, during breaks between considering ways to make the impoverished buy health insurance policies, should consider outlawing such tactics. Bribery will always be with us, unfortunately, but there is no reason that abusive governmental revenue-raising schemes need be.
By Dusty
August 29, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
bushwanked @ 2:25
You’re easy.
Read this blog and see who is sqawking about the school system. LIBS! (Bush did it!!)
Republicans have not decided on whether they like charter schools are not. That’s still an open question.
Can’t answer you on Boortz. I have never listened to him.
That closes Q & A for today. Try thinking for yourself a while.
By Bushwanked
August 29, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this
Alberto Gonzales is an honest man.
My God, that’s sad….and pathetic.
By GreyGayGeek
August 29, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this
Bushwanked, I read a comment on a friend’s blog yesterday where someone was quoting another commentator about Gonzo:
Alberto Gonzales seems to think that The Truth, The Whole Truth, and Nothing But The Truth are three different things.
By getalife
August 29, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this
Alberto Gonzales is an honest man.
Scary.
Geez.
By No Laughing Matter
August 29, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
“Alberto Gonzalez is an honest man.” Wow, the brainwashing is complete. Though, considering Cheney, Rove, Rummy, Wolfie and the rest of the gang, Berto might qualify, or at least come closer than any other member of the administration.
By jbmlaw
August 29, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this
Dear GrayGay @ 2:48, actually they are. The argument has been pointedly made by another, with the pithy legal observation, “it depends on what the meaning of “is” is.” As to your 2:09 observation, I think I would support the argument of my friend Dusty, that Gonzales is fundamentally honest in all of his public representations, and innocent of deception, under any definition of the “truth.” However, he would have been smarter to deceptively assert that the firings of the incompetent US Attorneys had nothing to do with performance, the same polite lie we are all supposed to tell when we get rid of unguided missiles and deadwood. I also believe Scooter Libby was innocent, albeit possibly wrong, in his remembrance of one of hundreds of interviews with reporters; my belief is of little assistance to him.
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
Leona Helmsley is drawing more flak for her $12 million gift to her dog than Vick drew for the surprises he gave his dogs.
They should both plead insanity.
The new Queen of Mean is Sen. Craig. (so that was a throne he sat on in the men’s room?)
By Rovespierre
August 29, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
My wife’s GOPpler GAYdar can spot a Repudlickan pudlicker a mile away. She’s uncannily accurate. She claims that Rove is G.A.Y. I tell her that would be impossible, but she insists, and I swear she’s never wrong.
What might happen is that Sen. Craig may take half the Repudlickan senators with him in a gay political suicide pact, because the one thing he wont lie about is who else is gay in the senate, and it’s gotta be half of the Repudlickan Party.
I mean, who else but a gay person would run on being born again, gay marriage and guns? Only a person looking at issues from a very opportunistic, selfish standpoint, and what’s worse, is that these gays in the Senate are ripe for bribes and blackmail from the Saudi Royal Family who’s GOPpler GAYdar is better than even my wife’s.
Hilla