Thinking Right

By Mid-South Philosopher

August 10, 2007 8:04 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim,

My friend, while it is hotter that five acres of Hades during a dry spell, I don’t blame Georgie Bush or, even, Teddy Kennedy. After all, there is a pantheon of shortcomings to attach to each of those two darlings’ accounts.

Hannity, Bortz, and other right-wing geniuses assure us that global warming is only an urban myth foisted upon us by the liberal tree-huggers. Record temperatures (103 in Atlanta and 105 in Athens) mean nothing. It is all part of the cycle of nature.

History will judge us as either the generation that did not react irrationally to unwarranted hysteria about climate change or as the generation that committed climatic suicide. Too bad, none of us will ever know just who truly was right!

With regard to Johnny Brown’s $410,000 contract payoff, this is just another example of the dirty little secret that none of the educational elitists, who want to revolutionize American public schools, are willing to expose. The most inept, irresponsible, and failing entities connected with public schools are LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS!!! These political fiefdoms (a hold over from the 19th century) are largely dominated by (at best) well-meaning amateurs and (at worst) disgruntled individuals with various axes to grind. They are as useful as the proverbial mammary glands on a boar hog, and it is time to eliminate them. Each school should be independent and governed by a local school council made up of parents, teachers, and community members who reside within the school district. Of course, that is not going to happen, but it ought to!

Finally, Hilliary Clinton as a girl? She wishes! Sorry, but at best she is a slightly chubby, late middle-aged, professional woman. Put another way, if Hillary is a girl, then there is hope that you and I can be young studs again!

Stay out of the sun this weekend, Jim.

By Rod

August 10, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this

• First Baptist Church of Atlanta never has been about religion. It’s always been about power. Dr. Stanley is more interested in political statements than saving one’s soul. He used to criticize and condemn those who got divorced and said there was no place in church leadership for them – um, until he got his own divorce and now it’s fine!

• So, you think a vulnerable Republican in the Legislature should bow-down to public opinion and introduce a dog-fighting bill? Aren’t you the one who always criticizes Democrats for actually looking at public opinion polls? I guess your opinion on this topic flutters in the breeze – whether it helps a Republican or not.

• If Usher had really been a fine example, he would have used protection and not gotten a woman pregnant that he’s not married to!

• You’re right – George Bush should be blamed for most of America’s woes. After all, he’s killing more and more of our fighting boys every day.

• Hate to tell you Wooten, but if the White-bread Republicans like you ever needed great trauma care – you’d be taken to Grady too. Oh, the horror – you’d be lying on a gurney next to a black-man. Oh, God!

• Of course you like predatory lending - you love to take advantage of people who aren’t as wealthy as you. Common, hard-working folks get ripped off through predatory lending and you think it’s funny. Shameful.

• And, no, I don’t think you could ever pass a Political Correctness course.

By Planner

August 10, 2007 8:09 AM | Link to this

It’s hot. A bridge falls somewhere in America. Two more reasons for conservatives to blame Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, the liberal media, activist judges, Islamofascists, Defeatocrats, illegal immigrants, gays, Neville Chamberlain and the lifestyle police.

By Planner

August 10, 2007 8:15 AM | Link to this

And just for Jim, another thing to blame on absentee fathers and people opposed to school vouchers.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

Those who purchased homes above their means should be held accountable for their own shortseighteness. Sell the home and get something smaller, take a second job, reduce other expenditures, but don’t dig in my pockets to erase your mistake.

Biometric cards should be used as driver licenses, passports, voteing card , etc. With the proper domains, it is the most effective and secure means of identification. To triangulate card holder, picture and fingerprint would just about eliminate forged identifications.

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

So mid-south is saying that the question is no longer, “Can Johnny Read”, but rather, “Is Johnny Greedy”?

Hillary Clinton? A girl? They didn’t have girls like that when I went through male menopause. I wonder if the birth rate will rise exactly nine months after Hillary’s Cleavage Speech.

By Charles

August 10, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

• Usher is my new entertainment-industry hero. He married his pregnant girlfriend, Tameka Foster, setting a fine example for all the world. Straight-up, did the right thing.

Usher has made matters worse if he married Tameka Foster primarily because of her pregnancy. Sometimes doing the right thing as a result of having done the wrong thing leads to greater problems.

Becoming sexually active before marriage is the wrong thing to do; marriage because of a pregnancy is worse. As they say, two wrongs can’t make a right.

Do you really believe Usher and Tameka Foster have decided to love, honor, cherish and protect each other, forsaking all others and holding only unto each other forever more? Have they really decided to have and to hold each other, in sickness and in health, for richer or for poorer, in joy and in sorrow? Or do you believe they decided to do the right thing in the eyes of the world?

I would submit to you that the love they share is not appropriate for marriage. These two things are fraught with trouble. Number one is to make a serious mistake, sexual intercourse outside of marriage resulting in pregnancy. Number two is an attempt to correct a mistake by making a greater one, marriage.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this

RoD

You’re right – George Bush should be blamed for most of America’s woes. After all, he’s killing more and more of our fighting boys every day.

I guess those who set the road side explosives and act as human bombs carry no responsibility at all. Think about what you are saying.

By Jeff

August 10, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this

Government-issued biometric identification cards?

HADES NO!!!!!

“Those who would give up freedom for security deserve neither.” Is an appropriate quote for that situation.

FBC-ATL: Let ‘em build it if they need it. They were there before the apartments in question. And if it is their land anyway (or they can legally buy it), it is their property to do with as they wish anyway.

Somehow, methinks firing someone for being away while serving in the Guard is illegal, isn’t it?????

If YOU were stupid enough to buy a house YOU knew YOU couldn’t afford, don’t make ME pay for it as well. Yet another reason to vote anything-but-Democrat.

Hillary? A “girl”? Or is that “guhl”, for our darker skinned brethren? In any case, she is as much a “girl” as I am a monkey.

By Makes no sense

August 10, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this

The scope of this whole predatory lending situation blows my mind. When did we as a people lose our ability to think logically before making major financial decisions (like buying a home)? I don’t believe that “common, hard-working folks” should be characterized as the poster children/”victims” of this national embarassment. It is truly unfair to them. I grew up in a city full of common, hard-working folks that took pride in paying their bills on time, staying out of debt, and living within their means (oh, the horror). Bankruptcies and foreclosures were published in the local newspaper, and were actually considered a source of shame. They weren’t wealthy, and the majority weren’t educated beyond a high school degree. Yet, they had enough common sense (remember that?) to stay away from a deal that was too good to be true. That’s all there is to it. There are no victims here… just individuals that wouldn’t step back and THINK about what they were getting into today, and how it would affect their future. If it seems too good to be true… it probably is.

By what

August 10, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

Hmmm…..well as far as Grady is concerned… I say allow on Fulton and Dekalb residents to use the facility and see where it takes us….No more trauma patients from all over north georgia…send them to gwinnett somewhere and see how willing people are to start helping us pay for this crisis.

By Captain Freedom

August 10, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

THE Captain’s Free for All Friday:

Once again, Wooten puts his inner liberal on display with praise for an Usher at his church who got some girl pregnant.

This man is no hero. If THE Captain could save himself for marriage, then why not this Usher fellow. He should have slipped a ring on her finger before he slipped her donut around his johnson. That’s just good common sense.

The decline in Wooten’s moral fiber is shocking.

Now granted, some people choose pre-marital abstinence; some, like THE Captain, have it thrust upon them. But no matter. I acted honorably (even though it was really Nature’s choice), so I believe everyone else should, too. It’s only fair.

And yes, that Hillary Harpy is indeed a girl. She was parading those lady humps across the Senate floor like some two-bit floozy. Good thing Fred Thompson’s wife doesn’t flaunt her flim-flam that way. It would be indecorous.

And there is no truth to the rumor that Mrs. Thompson’s mounds of delight are practicing lawyers, though some have claimed otherwise. It’s just that Frederick of Hollywood call’s his bride’s ta-tas “Law” and “Order”.

And let’s just set one thing straight, eh? The bridge in Minnesota…Clinton’s fault.

By deegee

August 10, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

Sorry, Jim but treasuries around the world are a few steps ahead of Hillary. A quick infusion of money into the market to stem rising interest rates may avoid some foreclosures. Hillary is being advised by one of the greatest politicians ever, Bill Clinton. Survey says she’s cold and unapproachable. She’s learning to lighten up a bit and if that means referring to herself as a girl then that’s what she’s going to do.

Amid Friday’s decline, the Bank of Japan said it injected 1 trillion yen ($8.39 billion) into money markets to curb rises in a key overnight interest rate.

The injection followed similar moves by its European and U.S. counterparts overnight.

The European Central Bank provided nearly 95 billion euros ($130.8 billion) to money markets, the bank’s biggest infusion ever.

The U.S. Federal Reserve also added a larger-than-normal $24 billion in temporary reserves to the U.S. banking system.

By Bushwanked

August 10, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this

I guess those who set the road side explosives and act as human bombs carry no responsibility at all. Think about what you are saying.

Ummmm…let’s see. We’re on the heels of the Taliban and Osama (remember him? he’s still out there) in Afghanistan, but yet we do a Uturn and head to Iraqi - where Osama is NOT.

And then we get stuck in the middle of a civil war (yes, it is a civil war) where our fighting boys are dying everyday (25 in the first 9 days of August - count’em) and you tell someone to think about what they are saying?

I think it’s very clear he did….

By jbmlaw

August 10, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

Jim’s last item creates a bizarre visual for me, Hilldebeast lip-synching to Gwen Stefani’s “I’m Just a Girl.”

Good morning all. It seems to me that one who inaccurately represents that his foundation is tax-exempt, then declines to correct the misrepresentation, could be liable for criminal fraud. All we need is a lead plaintiff; that one should be easy.

I know it is contrary to the way our best preachers think, but I hold a general revulsion for mega-churches. If anything, the church I attend (average service maybe 400-500 people) is too large; I prefer a smaller, more intimate group. If there is any adverse legacy from the otherwise honorable Dr. Graham, that may be it, the sense that “bigger is better” even in religion. On the other hand, bigger churches definitely have better music programs, and that ultimately is my basis for church selection. Our church recently lost, to retirement, the best choir director/arranger in the south, if not in the US, a true loss for our church. That may cut down on the crowd.

As Taranto amusingly reported the recent wedding: “She Ditched the Groom at the Chapel “Usher, Foster Wed at Lawyer’s Office”—headline, USA Today, Aug. 6.”

The Doraville story hits me as strange. Unless the police chief was sending suspected litterbugs to Guantanamo, the councilmen must be crazy, that does not sound like a political winner for them.

At risk of angering the Leviathan-lovers, I will flash my 30 years in the industry as credential, and affirm that all leftists and all regulators wrongly regard all lenders as predators. This is one of the few areas where the moonbats have been in control since the mid 1970s, ever since they got HMDA and CRA through a hard socialist Congress. Meanwhile at the regulatory agencies, they punted the legitimate lenders out of mortgage lending via manic hyper-technical enforcement of Reg Z and RESPA and Fair Housing. Such short-sightedness still makes me mad enough to spit. So now the world doesn’t work well – how surprised is anyone?

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

It sure is hot today.

By @@

August 10, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

O.K. Jim, on the biometric ID, we can nail the liberals with their own words used in the past for the sake of their inconvenient truths.

We are all immigrants or descendants of immigrants.

‘Ya know the Guatemalan house church I’ve mentioned here before. I think they’ve bitten off more than they can chew when they purchased that house. Their district sued the county under Rluipa for their zoning approval. They have yet to gain approval on the plans they’ve submitted. Their time is up. One year and their zoning can be revoked. They aren’t holding services there.

Who do I blame for their unfortunate circumstance. The black minister from their district offices who claimed their civil rights were violated. Damn straight, he violated their civil rights when he allowed a non-english speaking congregation to navigate their way through the entire process without the benefit of his expertise in property procurement. Who owns the property? Not the congregation. They paid for it, but the district office now owns it.

Heck Jim, down here in my county there was a time when we were paying three superintendents at one time. A bunch of adults on the school board acting like children while shortchanging the children’s education.

I’ll take Will Smith as my entertainment-industry hero. Married Jada first, then had children. They remain happily married and are loving and caring parents.

I don’t know if I’m trendy or not, because I have no idea what H&M is but I’ve been to Atlantic Station so….

About Grady, I guess Mr. Speaker and Mr. Lieutenant Governor are hoping that they can inject a local anesthesia into the taxpayers.

Doraville’s Mayor? It’s nice to know that there are still people of principle. Who can argue with the good Mayor?

Hillary isn’t buying houses, she’s buying votes.

Can you imagine what would happen if George Bush called Condoleeza Rice “girl”? Oh wait, liberals have already done that. My bad…a privileged entitlement I suppose.

By DebbieDoRight

August 10, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this

Charles: Becoming sexually active before marriage is the wrong thing to do..

Charles I hate to say it BUT; if it wasn’t for premarital sex, there wouldn’t be a LOT of marriages out there these days. You don’t buy the shoes before trying them on first. They may be too big, or worse than that, too little.

RCH: Biometric cards should be used as driver licenses, passports, voteing card , etc

Big brother is that you?

Wooten: See, Mr. Speaker and Mr. Lieutenant Governor, what you both fail to understand is that Grady’s not about whether a hospital survives. It’s about racial spoils and power

And since you’re the head racist reactionist, you should know.

MSP: Hannity, Bortz, and other right-wing geniuses assure us that global warming is only an urban myth foisted upon us by the liberal tree-huggers. Record temperatures (103 in Atlanta and 105 in Athens) mean nothing. It is all part of the cycle of nature.

Of course they will, even after their boss, Rupert Murdoch, has finally seen the light and has admitted that global warming exists. Notice how that piece of news never makes it on Faux Network.

By deegee

August 10, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

The anti-social Goofey Toofey has been outed and no surprise, he’s a Limbaugh fan.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070810/aponfest/oddlivingincar_5

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

Neither a borrower nor a lender be.

Nine months after Anita Hills, “long dong silver” testimony, the birth rate rose. I wonder about nine months after Hillary’s cleavage speech.

It’s so hot that bush vetoed a bill just for Pelosi’s icy stare.

By DebbieDoRight

August 10, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

deegee: You bring up a good point. Why hasn’t Jim, (who loves his stocks as much as Heffner loved his bunnies), mentioned the horrendous happenings in the stock market lately? China is threatening to call in its loans, France already did; yet nothing from the great Stock Market Watcher Wooten!! Hmmm……… I think Wooten has Reagan syndrome — he throws rocks at others mistakes, (dems), then hides behind dementia (or in Reagan’s case alzheimers’ “Iran Contra”), when his party gets caught with their pants down. Again. And wearing diapers.

By deegee

August 10, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

http://www.wral.com/news/strange/story/1687915/

By Johnny Reb

August 10, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

I feel that any time any religion base group, be it church or organization, enters into politics be it an opinion, to back a politician or for any reason. They at that point cease to be religious and are political and therefore loose the nontaxible and religious status and it protections. Religion and politics do not mix………

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this

Horrendous Happenings in the Market?

Please. Normal volatility. The market nevers goes straight up or down, but oscillates like a ….uh…like a….oscillating thing.

China may nuke us if we default on our loans to their predatory lenders. I hope they dont target my neck of the woods, but rather yours.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

Bushwacked “And then we get stuck in the middle of a civil war (yes, it is a civil war) where our fighting boys are dying everyday (25 in the first 9 days of August - count’em) and you tell someone to think about what they are saying”

“Suicide Bombers in Iraq,” has identified the nationalities of 124 bombers who attacked in Iraq. Of those, the largest number — 53 — were Saudis. Eight apiece came from Italy and Syria, seven from Kuwait, four from Jordan and two each from Belgium, France and Spain. Others came from North and East Africa, South Asia and various Middle Eastern and European countries. Only 18 — 15 percent — were Iraqis

What were you saying about a Civil War? I never new a civil war included foreign combatants sent to destabilize a new government.

By Charles

August 10, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

What marriages out there are you talking about? There are not many rewarding marriages sweetheart. Only God can give you the desires of your heart.

There is always a spiritual side of everything. God can give you the proper shoes through obedience. God can make the little shoes the greatest experience on earth and vise versa through obedience to spiritual laws.

If you are a rebellious woman, there is no telling who you will wake up loving tomorrow. You may wake up loving 32-24-36 and think it’s a winning hand.

By Me!

August 10, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

Re: @@

Uh, Jada was pregnant hwen she married Will Smith. Try again!

Oh yeah, I love, love, love H&M! Took long enough.

By jct

August 10, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

I believe this ‘predatory lending’ has been way overblown. There is a distinction of being hoodwinked by housing industry professionals who have been less than honest in their practices and rank stupidity in buying a housing that you can’t afford on an interest only loan.

I believe the former group is only a fraction of the later group. I have no sympathy for the folks who want to live beyond their means.

I have lost hope and faith in both parties. Candidates seem to only go after the fringes in each party.

There are no real solutions being forwarded for those of us who can think. I only hope that a real candidate shows up before the primaries next year.

By deegee

August 10, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

Anyone with a 401K and a pension will eventually feel the fallout from the predatory lending that has contributed to high foreclosures. The subprime mortgage mess was as predictable as the fallout after the dotcom bubble. People have been warning us for years that this is going to be a problem. Fox & Co.’s Bulls and Bears kept telling their viewers that the real estate ride of the early 2000’s was going to keep going higher and not to worry. Now it’s a problem and the middle class is going to take it in the pants.

Republicans are trying to convince us that the market is a safe haven for retirement savings because they know that the mismanaged Social Security system will blow up in about 10 years. We’re screwed and they know it. The Wootang gang is just trying to put makeup on a very ugly pig.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight Biometric cards should be used as driver licenses, passports, voteing card , etc

We already perform this function in a haphazard way.( Separate SS Card, Birth certificate, etc.) I propose a integrated field where all required documentation is cross-net and under one umbrella card. It would be more effective.

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

With preachers like Charles out there, who needs Satan?

Satan offered Christ the whole world. God offered Christ crucifixion.

See the diff?

The devil is in the details. The soul is lost forever when it seeks to comfort the flesh.

Never pray for yourself. Pray only for those you despise. Impress god.

By DebbieDoRight

August 10, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

OK Charles, color me “stooopid” but I didn’t get your 34-26-34 reference. Are you telling me that since I’m a heterosexual female, that one day, since I believe in sex before marriage, I’ll wake up homosexual? EEWWWWWW — nothing against homosexuals ——EEEEEEWWWWWW

HOW IN THE NAME OF GOD IS THAT POSSIBLE!!??!! That’s like you waking up sane!! It ain’t happening Bubba!

OK — just pulling your chain up there ^^; since you’re a christian you have to forgive me.

By Bushwanked

August 10, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

Only 18 — 15 percent — were Iraqis

RCH - What you fail to mention is all these different nationalities were not there until we went in and removed the leader of Iraq. That’s what happens when you remove a country’s leader. That’s exactly why Bush Sr. did not march on in to Baghdad in the early 90’s. Remember how he was critisized? He knew what it would entail. He know the cost - $ and soldier’s lives - as well as the time involved. Remember what Colin Powell said - “You break it, you own it.”

And surely you are not stating that Iraq is NOT in a civil war. Besides, the suicide bombers are targeting mostly Iraqi citizens, not our troops. I’d say there is a difference between a suicide bomber who blows up a marketplace and the people who are putting out IED’s on road intended for our troops.

Oh yeah, you failed to mention that in a 2nd study, 24 percent of the suicide bombers were identified as Iraqi Sunni Muslims. Hmmmmm…….. Wonder why you left that out.

By the way, it’s Buschwanked, not Bushwacked. Think about it……..

By Patmen

August 10, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

Jim Wooten actually did a blog today without taking a shot at black folks? Did he get hit in the head with a brick this morning?

By Charles

August 10, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

The BlogFather,

Why do you refer to me as a preacher? I am not a preacher. I’m just a Christian

People often refer to me as a minister. It must be something in the walk and the talk.

What do you have against people attempting to attain the mind of Christ?

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

The end of the credit housing bubble came when they started showing how ordinary incompetent people can make mistakes and still make money flipping houses on TV.

Then everybody was a flipper. Many of those people got caught buying fixer uppers at high prices because they projected the improved home would fetch even higher prices.

The way to make money in real estate is to write a book about how to make money in real estate. that never fails.

You can make money in real estate with no money down and no credit and no friends and no arms or legs or telephone or nothing.

SImply refer to page 27 in my book. ($39.95)

By Tom

August 10, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

Greetings all,

Can’t comment on much here as I live in NC.

I just want to say how much I have enjoyed reading this site. If you agree or disagree, or think right or wrong, it seems most people that post here actually have a brain and put some thought into their comments! Most of you are a good example of “debate without hate”. Very refreshing…

I always did like Atlanta…

By Patman

August 10, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

Oops, I spoke too soon. The Neal Boortz of the AJC did it again. JW must have gotten beat up by black kids a lot as a youth.

By DebbieDoRight

August 10, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

jct: There are no real solutions being forwarded for those of us who can think. I only hope that a real candidate shows up before the primaries next year.

Me too. I am just disgusted at the misdirection this country is going in and I’m even MORE disgusted that we don’t have anyone with the balls to clean this waste system, that’s fast becoming the federal government, up. Everything that anyone has done, (with the exception of Dumbya — and that’s because he’s either drunk, crazy, or has A.D.D.), has been with an eye NOT to the good of the American people; but towards the good of their next campaign, (dumbya did it for the good of the money).

Even the ones NOT in a publicly voted office are just a bunch of ball-less wonders——> Powell, (he could’ve tried MUCH HARDER to reason with that mad man Dumbya, if not that he could’ve told the american people the truth),——> Gonzalez, (will work for food — and chimps),——-> Rice,(she let her fondness for the man belie her appointed office where she was supposed to be working for the people) ———> the outgoing CIA director, (what’s his name), would rather write a book and make millions; than save millions of lives.

THIS is our America. God bless it.

By Vanity and Colmes

August 10, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

I actually heard Sean Vanity yesterday calling John Edwards a “pretty boy” and make a reference to Edwards combing his hair.

Talk about calling the kettle black!! They don’t come no prettier than Sean!

By Charles

August 10, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

Well your response was more positive than The BlogFather. The BlogFather must have gotten up one morning liking them tall, dark, and handsome. It was just yesterday he liked them petite, blond, brunette, and the like.

He must have some reason to be antagonistic toward God.

By Hillbilly Boy

August 10, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

That Hannity shore has a purty mouth. She’s squeals like a piggy too.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

* Bushwanked What makes you think that those who are laying roadside bombs are also not foreign fighters. Many are.

When we leave do you believe the killing of Americans will stop? We are targeted anywhere in the world including right here at home. Where will you pull the civilians back too, when the killing is here?

By jct

August 10, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Usually, I can be more positive but today I just can’t get it together. I am so sick of the talking head candidates.

It’s not global warming that heating up the nation and world; it’s the candidates and their rhetoric. :)

Is anyone else weary of the long drawn out presidential campaign? When I was a little girl in the 1970’s I thought I could grow up and be President. My friends and I would have serious discussions about which career track we should take to get us ready to be public servants. We were so naive.

It’s all about the money. Where are the candidate’s soul? What do they really stand for/against? I am not a one issue voter. Tell me your solution, I will listen. Even if I agree with everything on your agenda, I will give you a chance if you are real.

It’s the campaign to stop the talking heads.

By jm

August 10, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

bridges collapsing and failing infrastructure are signs of you tax cuts at work (for that I blame W the incompetent and every president, congress and senate during my lifetime).

Politicians like to have their pictures taken. When was the last time you saw a ribbon cutting for repairing a bridge or a levee.

By Bushwanked

August 10, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

We are targeted anywhere in the world including right here at home.

Two questions:

Are we more targeted now than when we first went into Iraq? We have created many more terrorists from our actions there.

We were targeted on 9/11. Did Iraq have anything to do with that? You know the answer to that. (See my earlier Osama reference - remember him?)

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

Dear Christian. You R not a christian. You R a retirement planner. You pray 4 your retirement plan, basically.

God gets more christianity from a rock being a rock than from all your self help prayers.

Christ’s observation of us was clear: we are like the dirt and rocks. When the seed of Christ’s words fall on us, we either cause sprouts (if we are dirt) or we make the seeds wither and die (if we are rocks). Self help prayers are less than the rocks they spring from.

Fact.

By Jeff

August 10, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Question:

Why is it dang near impossible to find a transcript of one debate that will virtually KILL the Democratic Party’s chances at winning 1600 Pennsylvania next year???

I speak directly of the HRC/Logo debate last night… if anyone can find a full transcript, PLEASE let me know.

ajc_jeff@yahoo.com or post link here

Thanks!

By deegee

August 10, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

The election cycle is way too long. Now the States are in a race to be the first with a primary. Iowa is likely to hold a primary in December of this year under pressure from states moving up their primaries to January and February of 2008. It’s a joke. The money that has to be raised to fuel the now 2-year campaigns is outrageous. All the candidates do is hop from one fund raiser to another. This entire country needs a political colonic.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

* Bushwanked *

We we not targeted in Lebanon, Somalia, etc., long before Iraq. The terrorist are finding that we are a easy target with politicians with the mindset of apeasment.

Iraq and 911 are two different entities. Was it the U.S or Iraq that invaded Kuwait. Iraq’s defeat stipulated certain U.N concessions which were not adhered to. Thus you had the second Iraq war.

By Charles

August 10, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

The BlogFather,

I’ve never read that in the bible. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob did not mention it. Jesus did not mention it in parables. Nether did Jesus tell us plainly.

Lastly, my pastor did not mention anything close to your reference to Christians and God.

Maybe those are facts of the new age prosperity preacher.

By jct

August 10, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

@deegee

I completely agree with you.

The question that has come to my mind lately is that so many of the folks running are currently in office, elected by the people.

I see them running from fundraiser to debate and back and forth. When are they about the people’s business?

When do they have time to really formulate sound policy on foreign and domestic issues when they are busy working on that sound bite for the next news cycle?

I sure as heck don’t want to say there should be a law but….

Pretty soon there will be continuous presidential campaigning. That is not healthy for this nation.

By jbmlaw

August 10, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Dear Bushwanked @ 9:02, you correctly note that when GWB took office he unknowingly faced an enemy in radical Islamists, dispersed all over the world. Shortly after the Islamists attacked, President Bush conceived a strategy to draw all of those radical Islamists into a small geographical area, so they could be wiped out far more efficiently. And there is something flawed in that strategy? Why can’t you guys connect the dots? Or perhaps you don’t want to wipe out the Islamists, you just want to sing Kum Ba Yah with them all over the world. The Iraq strategy was brilliant, the President failed to realize the level of cowardice among our domestic leftist brothers, that they would rather surrender to the Islamists than wipe them out. I guess they think this is mere tiddly-winks or Whack-a-Osama.

Dear Blog Father @ 9:44, truly you are a man of many surprises. The best seminary students do not communicate the essence of the faith as efficiently as your post. Please accept my totally-awed compliments (despite the two-word joke at the end of your post.)

By jm

August 10, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

RCH - maybe we were targeted in Lebanon and are being targeted in Iraq because we are forcing our troops into someone else’s country. Of course, I am sure you would welcome with open arms, say a brigade of Chinese troops if they decided to set up a military base someplace in the US.

By MP

August 10, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

Sorry @@I’ll take Will Smith as my entertainment-industry hero. Married Jada first, then had children. They remain happily married and are loving and caring parents. But Your hero Will Smith Divoiced his first wife whom he had a child with to marry Jada. Jada was already pregnant before he married her.

By Lily Toad

August 10, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

Predatory lending is a LEGAL term, Jim. Some states define predatory lending as mortgage loans with exhorbitant interest rates, fees that exceed a certain percentage of the loan, packing insurance and other options, increasing the interest rate after default and other items.

By jct

August 10, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

Oops. I did not complete my thought…

The question that has come to my mind lately is that so many of the folks running for president who are currently in office, elected by the people, who the heck is in Washington and various states running the government? Their interns?

The rest is as I had written. Sorry about that.

By Van

August 10, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

jm,

When did they cut the taxes for the Highway Trust Fund?

The 18.3-cent federal gasoline tax and the 24.3-cent diesel tax is still in effect. I have not heard of the feds cutting the taxes on fuel.

Oh, I see, if something goes wrong or breaks, blame Bush - so much for diversity of thought from the lefties.

By jbmlaw

August 10, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

Dear AmVet, if you are around, following-up on the anti-Jewish epithet stuff, I object less to an unknowing display of mindless prejudice than I do to misuse of simple English. Most of the mindless drones – and you specifically are not a mindless drone –use the epithet as an epithet, and apply it indiscriminately to all of their political opponents. The neoconservatives are a pretty well-defined movement fathered by Norman Podhoretz (e.g., http://www.opinionjournal.com/federation/feature/?id=110008830).

Although the neoconservatives are reviled by prejudiced ultra-conservatives (probably mostly due to envy, arising from the influence held by neoconservatives), they are hated by the mindless Left perhaps more for the “neo” part of the name than the “conservative” portion. The crime is “apostasy” – these were true Leftist (and almost exclusively Jewish) intellectuals. I would call them “the LAST true Leftist intellectuals” but then I would have to otherwise explain my respect for Camille Paglia. The neoconservatives found moral bankruptcy on the Left, and developed another way. I suspect there are as many moderates who subscribe to the neoconservative philosophies (if you put questions to them without labels) as there are conservatives. But that does not stop the mindless Left. If you use the term correctly, I will not ding you. Dick Cheney is not a “neoconservative;” he is a “conservative,” always has been. “Neoconservative” can only refer to those who first embraced and later renounced leftism, and almost always means “Jewish.” If you intend to assassinate the character of conservative Jews, “neo-con” is the correct epithet.

And although I hold great respect for the neoconservatives, I am a libertarian-conservative; my agenda is not the same as many of my “fellow travelers.” Our Leftist brothers do themselves no intellectual credit when they are unable to distinguish the Rockefeller Establishment Republicans vs. the Buchanan Fortress America Firsters vs. the Falwell Religious Right vs. the Wooten traditional conservatives vs, the Podhoretz neoconservatives vs. the Goldwater-esque libertarian-conservatives. And we are not even mentioning the less well-defined philosophies of Southern democrats (not our esteemed blogger-friend, but rather a generic reference) and Blue-collar trade union workers, who have voted Republican for the past couple of decades. While we are all mostly on the same bus, we don’t all want to stop at the same places. In this sense, we are little different from the Democrats’ coalition of 1960s civil rights leaders, government employees, new age moonbats, trade union leaders, educrats, trial attorneys, traditional collectivists, and Scoop Jackson democrats. My condemnations against the Leftists generally intend to conjoin the moonbats and the traditional collectivists only; but my tirades specifically exclude only the Scoop Jackson democrats (e.g., Lieberman or Nunn or Zell or Richardson), whom I find intellectually consistent and morally sound.

By JK

August 10, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

If you can refer to yourself as “Guy” then she can be a “Girl” since no one under 65 refers to females as “Dolls” anymore, buy all y’all menfolk identify with “Guy.”

I’m glad to see Mr. Wooten’s consistent stance on government: Like Congress, a City Council should have no real auhtority, and their decisions are acceptably usurped by the Executive Authority of the jurisdiction. WE DON’T NEED NO STINKIN’ REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY! Right, Mr. Wooten? Just respect his authori-tai!

By rod

August 10, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw - your 10:44 post to bushwanked was pure bushit!

By Charles

August 10, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

The BlogFather,

I can tell you without reservation, if you do not seek the guidance and protection from God; you are surely lost in misery. Most people are not happy. They are suffering while smiling with money, cars, houses, and all.

Human beings are clearly helpless given all of the tribulations and trouble upon the earth. Just turn on your television or any medium of communication. Better yet, just read some of these blogs.

Prayer is essential for your very survival. The world is too complex and out of control. The people have chosen evil over good. Only a supernatural power, precisely the God of Israel, can protect us now.

fact.

By Bushwanked

August 10, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

The Iraq strategy was brilliant

jbmlaw - go take your medicine….you obviously forgot to take this morning and you obviously need it on a daily basis. Your dillusional.

By time for the truth

August 10, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

Hey Tom (re your 9:57 post) - I hate you! Get your bloody nose out of our business and back to the putred stench of NC.

(huge smirk)

By jm

August 10, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

van - I did not realize that the federal government had stopped taking money out of the highway trust fund and replacing it with i.o.u.s to use on other projects. I guess they stopped doing the same with the social security trust fund. Silly, confused little conservative. Once the money comes in the door, it all goes in one pot and from that pot, it is doled out. Oh, and if you read closely (must be hard to do with blinders on) you notice I did not just blame W the incompetent.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

JM Was it us or Iraq that invaded Kuwait, incurred U.N. sanctions, broke those sanctions, thus thus being invaded a second time and defeated?

By Johnny Reb

August 10, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Don’t agree to blame W. for the bridge falling. Let’s blame the Roads and Bridges folks who fund their pet projects first then worry with the roads and bridges with what is left. Then when a bridge falls holler for more money by as usual “Raise them thar taxes” Let’s penalize the living for our screw up. Politicans need to quit running to the well and start re-evaluating the priorities and realining the money they have. I am tired of over taxation with p** poor representation. The Lord only wants 10% but our so call government feels it is entitled to more of a share than the Lord. Hummmmmmmmmmmm, if the Lord is indeed the higher power then why is the federal government a man made entity entitled to more of a share. If it is truely “On nation under God” then he is first and our so called government should not be entitled to anymore than God. So give me back my money and stop asking for mo’money, mo’money.

By jm

August 10, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

RCH - I am sure you can produce the UN authorization for the second invasion of Iraq by the US.

By jbm fan

August 10, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw wrote, “although I hold great respect for the neoconservatives, I am a libertarian-conservative”

No…jbmlaw is a greedy old man who would support the Nazi party if they promised him a bigger tax cut.

By Hillbilly Boy

August 10, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

That Johnny Reb, she ain’t gotta purty mouth, but dam-n she knows how to use it!

Squeal like a piggy for me. Johnny girl.

By Van

August 10, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

jm,

Since the President can not spend a dime of Federal funds, I guess it falls on Congress.

BTW, some of those funds needed for infrastructure in Atlanta are sitting in the Marta coffers, the Beltway might even have some. Like someone said, the local pet projects are draining funds needed for the highway system and infrastructure.

By Charles

August 10, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

I have got to retire early today everyone. I enjoyed the conversations today; especially DebbieDoRight and The BlogFather.

It was a very interesting week. Only God knows what future weeks hold. Talk to everyone Monday; God willing.

By Johnny Reb

August 10, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

Hillbilly boy, Just be careful you don’t get spun around and end up squealling like pig and crying like a baby.

By Van

August 10, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

jm,

Your statement(10:22 AM)that the reason the bridge fell was due to the Bush tax cuts. I responded with there were no tax cuts on the funding mechanism for the Highway Trust Fund.

I am awaiting your answer.

By jm

August 10, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

van - actually, at the federal level, the president and the executive branch are the ones that spend the money. It is the legislative branch that directs where the funds are to be spent (presidential signing statements not included in this discussion)

Once again, if you read closely (I realize it is hard to do with blinders on but try), you will notice that I also blamed the congress and senate.

By GodHatesTrash

August 10, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

Hillbilly Boy - thanks for your insight on Mssrs. Hannity and Reb today…

You know deegee, our discussion earlier this week regarding a more PC term for white trash culture - instead of redneck, how about “hillbilly”?

The colorful idjit rustics that regularly post on the Woo-ten Kkklan blog remind me very much of the crew at Al Capp’s L’il Abner comic strip - Wooten’s column is very much an intellectual Dogpatch. And Dusty sort of combines the looks of Mamie Yoakam with the pigsty smell of Daisy Mae, ne’est ce-pas?

Certainly, culturally there’s not a dime’s worth of difference between a North Georgian and a South Georgian, ‘ceptin’ a North Georgian being a little more likely to have sex with his livestock and sisters, since there ain’t as many blackfolk to rape.

Your comments and others are encouraged!

By Lionel Richie

August 10, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

Charles quit plagarizing my songs (‘cause she’s a brick house, she’s mighty, mighty,…)

By Thomas

August 10, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

By RCH

August 10, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

Those who purchased homes above their means should be held accountable for their own shortseighteness. Sell the home and get something smaller, take a second job, reduce other expenditures, but don’t dig in my pockets to erase your mistake.

Biometric cards should be used as driver licenses, passports, voteing card , etc. With the proper domains, it is the most effective and secure means of identification. To triangulate card holder, picture and fingerprint would just about eliminate forged identifications.

RCH, every time you open your mouth you might as well be passing gas. You stink. Furthermore, anyone that advocates an ID card that would give government total control of it’s citizenry, lock stock and barrel, cannot possibly consider themselves “American”. Go to Cuba RCH. You and Fidel are of one mind.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

J.M.

From the vantage point of international law, the U.S. and Britain have put forth two major arguments for the invasion’s legality. The first argument holds that military action was authorized by U.N. resolutions related to the first Gulf War (660, 678) and the subsequent, ongoing inspections of Iraqi weapons programs (1441). The latter resolution was most prominent during the run up to the war and formed the main backdrop for Secretary of State Colin Powell’s address to the Security Council one month before the invasion.[51] At the same time, Bush Administration officials advanced a parallel legal argument using the earlier resolutions, which authorized force in response to Iraq’s 1991 invasion of Kuwait. Under this reasoning, by failing to disarm and submit to weapons inspections, Iraq was in violation of U.N. Security Council Resolutions 660 and 678, and the U.S. could legally compel Iraq’s compliance through military means.

By @@

August 10, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

Me & MP:

I’ve always been proud of the fact that I don’t follow the celebrity tabloids OR celebrities and their personal lives for that matter. Now I’ve proven it.

*But Your hero Will Smith Divoiced (Are you from Joisey?) his first wife whom he had a child with to marry Jada. Jada was already pregnant before he married her.

So he was a late bloomer. He’s still an impressive role model.

At the age of 24, Smith married Sharee Zampino and they had a son together named Trey. The couple divorced three years later but have remained close.

He had a college scholarship to MIT? I didn’t know that either. ‘Ya learn something new everyday.

By JimB

August 10, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

By jm

August 10, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

RCH - I am sure you can produce the UN authorization for the second invasion of Iraq by the US.

Of course he can’t jm. RCH is the biggest fraud on this blog. He backs absolutely nothing up with fact.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

Thomas

What is a Social Security Card? An antiquated way of proof of citizenship. Shouldn’t we be in the 21st century?

By Southern Democrat

August 10, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

Jbmlaw @ 10:57,

I enjoyed this thoughtful post and agree, per usual, with the majority of it. I wonder however, whether you would expand the definition of “neo-con” (used colloquially) to those young quasi-conservatives who advocate interventionist policies, government facilitation of normative and religious values, and profligate spending (who are also decidedly un-Jewish).

Jeff,

I don’t think a transcript is available yet, but video of last night’s debate is available at http://visiblevote08.logoonline.com/

By Van

August 10, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

jm,

All spending bills originate with the House of Representatives and must be passed by the Senate.

Most of the highway funds are spent by the states in state projects.

So, where were the tax cuts in the fuel taxes.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

JimB

I guess the above@ 11:47 is not fact. Try again.

By Orwell Much?

August 10, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

RCH (@8:19) How bout a “telescreen” in every home, office, store, and public place, through which government agents can monitor the activities and conversations of every American, and intervene when necessary, in the interest of security of course:

“It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself—anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face… was itself a punishable offense. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime…”

After all, WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EURASIA!

By GHT's Mammy

August 10, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Boy, yo Ph.D in funny paper readin’ jes came in da mail! hoo-ee boy, nowsa you kin support yo baby mama even thos that baby looks a little like our pigs…hmmm, but no mater

yous also gots sum udder magozine callt, Pig Stalkin’, or sem such…I’s beginin’ to have sum doubts ‘bout you boy. Gonna have to put da lock on the pig pen at nites.

Anywayz always wears a “rain coat” when you hangs ‘round wid da farm animals aunt always nose you a Mammys boy. Id say hi frim Pappy but i t’aint quite fingered out which’un he is but isa narrowed in downs to twenty…but mores on dat laters

-Yo Mammy

By jm

August 10, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

van - the Highway Trust Fund, while supposedly the primary source of funds for transportation needs, is not the only one. The general fund is also used.

Again, making it simple for you, when the revenue comes in the door, it all goes into one pot from whence it is doled out. If there is a shortage in the “general fund” but a surplus in the Highway Trust Fund (which for a number of years there was), money is taken from the Highway Trust Fund (replaced with an I.O.U) and put into the general fund.

So when you cut taxes, without cutting expenses, the missing revenue has to be made up from somewhere.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Orwell Much and Thomas

These cards are not designed to intrude. They merely offer 3 points of identification.(Your bank at this point and time offers two;the physical card and a pin number). For example: You must present proper documentation for a new job. You present your bio card to the new employer. A finger print scan matches your picture on your card. All is well. If however ,the name, picture , and fingerprint do not match, you have a problem. This is a key way of rooting out fake documentation.

I think you would have a better argument on surveillance cameras on public streets.

By jm

August 10, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

RCH - with such a clear and concise argument like the one you posted at 11:47 it just boggles the mind that it was not put to a vote in the security council.

By getalife

August 10, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

After the next attack, you will see the Constitution null and void and martial law with check points asking for your id.

The right wants this to happen

Obl has scared the freedom out of these people.

I think they are pathetic cowards.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

J.M

If I and my children were receiving millions of dollars in oil kickbacks, I guess I wouldn’t let it come to a vote either.

By Lily Toad

August 10, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

I urge each of you to go to this link and answer this questionnaire. It will give you some insight as to how the issues that matter to you compare to those of all the Presidential candidates, without prejudice (and you may be surprised by the results):

http://www.dehp.net/candidate/

By jm

August 10, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

RCH - you mean Bush and his children were receiving millions of dollars in oil kickbacks? News to me.

By jbmlaw

August 10, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Dear Rod @ 11:03, I feared my post would be over your head, even though I tried to use small words. But thanks again for proving the limits of Leftist intellectuality.

Dear Southern @ 11:56, thanks for your argument. I think you are probably right – although I was unaware that the neo-conservatives were drawing any support within our younger non-Jewish population, I would be dishonest (although totally in character) to attempt to ossify the language.

Explanation of the kerfuffle: While you were away I exchanged notes with one particularly bright commentator on your side, AmVet, and he loosely used the “neo-con” epithet to criticize all conservatives. While that may be fair in my particular case, I think it would be silly to apply such a term to a Sam Brownback, or even ironic to include Pat Buchanan in the scope of the slur.

My note today arose from a rare (for me) pang of conscience. I realized that I had phrased my argument so as to affect AmVet’s thinking, appealing to what I correctly perceived as his revulsion to ethnic slurs. While my argument was true and intellectually totally valid, as a typical libertarian type the political correctness feels like a dishonest argument to me; I thought I should clear the air, out of respect for AmVet.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

JM

Nice duck, but you know where the money went.

By Van

August 10, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

Lily Toad,

Interesting quiz. Seems Ron Paul is not as conservative as he wants us to believe.

By Lily Toad

August 10, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Van, in what way?

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

It’s sure is hot today.

It’s so hot that Hillary had to free willy just to be cool in the breeze.

By Jeff

August 10, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

Southern:

Ah, but therein lies the rub: right now I only have net access at work.

That, plus I’m keeping a record of every debate transcript I can get my hands on…. could come in handy this time next year…

By jbmlaw

August 10, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

Dear RCH, jm, and Van @ various times, if I were decent I would stay out of your discussion, but did you see the relevant post Saturday August 4 by “Woohooten” @ 4:16? http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/thinkingright/entries/2007/08/03/schipbloatportendsstartof.html

By Van

August 10, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

Lily Toad,

I took the quiz and when the results came up Ron Paul had a zero after his name.

I guess libertarian and federalism do not mesh well.

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

I’Herman’s Hermits sings “Hillary 08”

I’m Hillary 08 I am. Hillary 08 I am I am. I got married to a willy and a ho, he’s played married many times B4 and there was one called a monica, she couldn’t be a phyllis or a pam, I’m his ball and chain I’m Hillary, Hillary 08 I am.

By Van

August 10, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

jm,

So it does come back to Congress. It is the fault of Congress the bridge collapsed.

By jm

August 10, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

RCH - I know where some of the money went. I also know that the oil for food nonsense went on with the knowledge of the security council. I also know it was Bush, after Colin Powell’s little dog and pony show, decided against putting his invasion to a vote.

By JD

August 10, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

jm, Van, RCH -

I believe tax revenues increased after the Bush tax cuts just as under Reagan and under Kennedy.

Just the facts, m’aam.

By joan

August 10, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

The taxpayer gets asked to ante up for every deadbeat’s problem. Now we are likely to be asked to cover the bad debts of people who committed fraud in obtaining home loans by committing to pay for something they knew they can’t afford. Not only should they not be bailed out, they should be put in jail.

By jm

August 10, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

Van if that is the argument you want to use, ok, i will play by those rules. The tax cuts of the early 80’s will now be credited to the democratic congress and President Reagan deserves zero credit for them.

By JimB

August 10, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

I see that reading comprehension is not your forte RCH. Nowhere in your little blurb does it state that the U.N. agreed with the arguments being presented. Did the U.N. AUTHORIZE the second invasion of Iraq? NO! If they did produce the resolution RCH. Not the argument the U.S. and Britain made. Two lawyers can argue case law and guess what RCH. Until the judge declres for one or the other it really doesn’t matter does it? Produce the resolution RCH and quit blowing smoke. PRODUCE THE RESOLUTION.

By jm

August 10, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

JD -[http://www.heritage.org/research/features/BudgetChartBook/charts_R/r2.cfm] - notice that revenues took about five years to return the level they were prior to the tax cuts. Like you said, just the facts.

By Jon Lovitz

August 10, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

So, Bush’s “Iraq strategy,” was to pool terrorists and eliminate them, eh, Jumbo Bowel Movement? That’s the ticket, huh?

If that’s the case, the fact Al Quaida is back to pre-9-11 strength levels and growing shows the “strategy,” preconceived as it was (suppresses laugh)wasn’t so brilliant afterall.

You try to keep spinning rabbit pellets into cotton candy, but that’s your biggest load of bull yet.

By jbmlaw

August 10, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

Dear jbmf @ 11:27, surely you are at least partially correct, in your first assertion. The difference between us is that I am greedy for my own earnings, and your greed asserts a right to take mine as well as yours.

By jm

August 10, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

JD - my error, once again [http://www.heritage.org/research/features/BudgetChartBook/chartsR/r2.cfm]http://www.heritage.org/research/features/BudgetChartBook/chartsR/r2.cfm

By jm

August 10, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw@1:21 - yeah I know but to me, this is like yankee fans and red sox fans arguing in a bar about why their teams are better.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

JimB

I never said they did authorize, only that under the first Gulf war articles of surrender, the second invasion was permissible.

By BS Aplenty

August 10, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

RCH @ 9:31

Thanks for the summary data - opened my eyes a bit to the real Iraq “conflict.”

By Jennifer

August 10, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

More smoke and mirrors RCH. More of your BS. Tell us what sanctions that Saddam violated that were acknowleged by the U.N. The U.S. and Britain saying that he did in order to advance their cause and attempt to justify it to the world community is not quite an ackowlegement that sanctions were officially violated. Do you have anything concrete that states that he did from the U.N.? What specific sanctions RCH?

By jbmlaw

August 10, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

Dear jm @ 1:45, you argue, “The tax cuts of the early 80’s will now be credited to the democratic congress and President Reagan deserves zero credit for them.” Actually the tax cuts of the early 80’s belong to those congressmen who voted for them – a small but courageous minority (among the Democrats) certainly deserves full credit for the tax cuts, as they defied party leadership to do the right thing. Similarly, there are a precious few red state democrat Congressmen preventing cut and run now, and they deserve our full respect for putting the welfare of all above the desires of the moonbats.

Dear Jon @ 1:56, you write “the fact Al Quaida is back to pre-9-11 strength levels and growing shows the “strategy…” actually proves nothing more than that you can find Potemkin village terrorists.

By BS Aplenty

August 10, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

RCH @ 9:31

Thanks for the summary data - opened my eyes a bit to the real Iraq “conflict.”

By TheStateSupportsRCH

August 10, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

When does your unemployment check run out RCH? And don’t tell us that same lie about your lofty position in that H1B mill. People that blog all day do not have jobs, unless blogging is your job. Maybe you are one of the AJC’s minimum wage bloggers after all. You did show up just as RW disappeared.

By Jackie

August 10, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

When the Congress returns in Sept., Dubya and his crew will get a chance to explain themselves. Either they will comply, or, the Dems and Repubs will be voted out of office!!!! Time for games are over!!!!

By sliver

August 10, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

for five yeare running, old woodenhead has been voted most usless editorial writter in Georgia! What a record Jim! Resign for the good of real journalism.

By Jon Lovitz

August 10, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

Well, you aren’t full of Potemkin village BS. It’s real and very deep. And in your head where a brain might usually be found.

By deegee

August 10, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

By jbmlaw

August 10, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Dear Bushwanked @ 9:02, you correctly note that when GWB took office he unknowingly faced an enemy in radical Islamists, dispersed all over the world.

LOL, Who but Dumbya didn’t know that?? Did he sleep through the first World Trade Center bombing, the embassy bombings in Africa and the bombing of the USS Cole? Thank you for confirming our suspicions. Dumbya is the stupidest president we have ever had. LOL

By RCH

August 10, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

TheStateSupportsRCH

Just like I wasn’t on this blog for the last two days. ( In meetings) Can you not multi-task. I am sometimes ask why my diction and spelling are not up to par. Thats why. Why my setences are short and curt!

I have offered numerous times to meet in a social situation (jbmlaw and Debbiedoright) can attest to this. Anytime, anywhere. Preferably in Alpharetta.

By jbmlaw

August 10, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

No fair! Ad hominem! You @^&#$&%#!

By jbmlaw

August 10, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

Lest there be any doubt, the 2:42 post was one of our cowardly Leftists, as always.

By AmVet

August 10, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw and Southern Democrat, thank you for the info.

And counselor, sometimes I am mindless, but hopefully not a drone!

Fortunately, I am very busy and billing a lot of hours, so I’m only popping in between calls!

I’d like to explore this more when I get a chance. Also, though it is a very slippery slope, I have always been interested in the political philosophies of these, in some cases, subtly different classifications of conservatives, etc…

I’ll talk with you next week!

And stay cool, cuz it’s hotter than blazes out there!

By Alan Greenspan Jr.

August 10, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Say what you will about the sub-prime mortgage fiasco. Take whatever side you wish. But the real isue here folks is that an economy fueled by the building of overpriced homes proped up by the proliferation of sub-prime loans was a house of cards ready to collapse from the moment of its birth. The whole thing was stupid guys. STUPID! When the United States of America abandoned a manufacturing based economy we started down the road to our own demise. We no longer have a real economy. Just one based on schemes, scams, and short term gimmicks. And it ain’t gonna get any better. I shudder to think what the next “lynchpin” of the economy will be.

By jbmlaw

August 10, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this

Dear Deegee @ 2:38, at risk of reminding you of the obvious, President Clinton evidently did not realize he was fighting a world wide enemy - or maybe he thought they were hiding in Bosnia? Or maybe he knew, that is why he fled Mogadishu?

By B.J. Patel

August 10, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

RCH was fired quite a while ago for some very ugly office incidents with his Latina female supervisor. I was a coworker of his. Thankfully for the rest of us at his former place of employment, he is gone forever.

By deegee

August 10, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

I saw that coming a mile away, JBMlaw. Just because Limbaugh says it that doesn’t make it so. Limbaugh and his ilk couldn’t wait for the dust to settle at ground zero before they started in. Here are just a few of the Clinton anti-terror proposals that were either blocked or watered down by the Republican congress.

The Comprehensive Antiterrorism Act of 1995, The Counter Terrorism Technology Research Act of 1995, The Antiterrorism Amendments Act of 1995, The Effective Death Penalty and Antiterrorism Act of 1995, and the Senate and House versions of The Omnibus Counter Terrorism Act of 1995.

By JZ Snoop Dog

August 10, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

This is why its hot. This is why its hot. Its hot cause Republicans or not. This is why, this is why, this is why its hot.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

* B.J. Patel * Welcome back. See my blog above. Anytime any where. By the way weren’t you supposed to clean my clock? This old man might surprise you.

By Just Asking

August 10, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

So jbmlaw, what would you have done in Somalia? Kill them all and let God sort them out? Based on the way the enemy had deployed itself, what would you have done jbmlaw? Had our guys out chasing ghosts imbedded among the populace? How many Black Hawk down” incidents would it have taken jbmlaw?

By jbmlaw

August 10, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

Dear deegee @ 2:58, while you may have “seen it coming” a mile away, you surely do not argue that any of those efforts had any useful effect. Surely none of those “acts” was a significant as the wall the Clintonistas erected between the CIA and FBI?

By Robert Scott

August 10, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Maybe Clinton recognized a quagmire when he saw one jbmlaw. In most cases discretion is the greater part of valor.

By B.J. Patel

August 10, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

Like you surprised the FEMALE supervisor RCH? I am so glad that you are gone. You are the most obnoxious and bitter 27 year old that any of us here ever had encountered. You were a cancer in our workplace. We are so thankful that you went to far and got fired. The only thing that I regret is that you didn’t put your hands on the ex-UGA football player down the hall instead of the 5’2” female supervisor.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

B.J. Patel Not even close. Having Played for Pepper, any ex-uga player is fair game.

By Jackie

August 10, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw is like those who profess to “support the troops…” They talk a good game and will not put their money where their mouths are. They want to send “others” to fight for their cause. It is their belief that they are serving their country by pointing out what needs to be done to protect us. I ask the conservatives, who will protect the rest of us from them????

By getalife

August 10, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

RCH is a 27 wingnut who beats women?

Do tell……..

Bwa.

By Al Davis

August 10, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

RCH the dung gets pile deeper around you everytime you post. You’re a real piece of work RCH. And by the way. Pepper Rogers was just cannon fodder for Vince Dooley’s boys, so obviously you’re full of the proverbial BS on that one too.

By getalife

August 10, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

RCH,

Since you were fired, you should enlist.

By John Stancil

August 10, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Well RCH, the arrogance and ignorance is now explained. But the inference that you are a Tech grad is probably just another of your lies. So maybe the above attributes are in your genetic code. What a jackazz you are RCH.

By getalife

August 10, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

Wingnuts,

Geez.

All aboard Jim.

By Diana

August 10, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

He doesn’t have the stones for that getalife.

By Johnny Reb

August 10, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

Theentireoffice, How long did you guys work with RCH?

By RCH

August 10, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

Al Davis Your right there we weren’t the greatest team. But we were also real students. Our Instructors did not grade inflate or whip up grades out of thin air. wasn’t there a Female instructor who blew the whistle on you guys. By the way it would be hard to be 27 and played for Pepper.

B.J. Patel back in my day Delta had a very good saying for you:” Delta is ready when you are!” Time for you to leave.

Getalife where you not on the invite list? I even offered to purchase the first round.

What did I expect from a bunch of “progressives.” Loose a argument ,act like cowards.

By deegee

August 10, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

Dear jbmlaw@3:03, the notorious CIA and FBI wall is another republican talking point. Post Vietnam, the growing feeling was that the threat to liberties from overreaching by agencies such as the CIA and FBI as well as the power of the executive branch were more dangerous and more pressing than the national security issues involved. Simply put, these agencies were no longer trusted, and this loss of innocence on the part of the public, Congress, and the courts led to a series of curbs, hence the FISA Act of 1978. Subsequently, the restriction of powers had been going on over time under republican and democrat leadership.

By Samuel Warren

August 10, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

No RCH, it is time for YOU to leave. Be a legend in your own mind somewhere else. You are obviously a poser.

By Walter George

August 10, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Be careful Diana. RCH might beat you up. You meet his prerequisite you know.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

One more and last time; anywhere, any time. I will buy the first round. I didn’t know you so called “progressives” had no stones?

By Al Davis

August 10, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

By Johnny Reb

August 10, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

Theentireoffice, How long did you guys work with RCH?

Johnny Reb, I suspect that unlike RCH, theentireofficeactually has some work to do.

By getalife

August 10, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

RCH,

Why do you beat up women and then call out posters?

By Really RCH

August 10, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this

RCH is a multitasker. He types with one hand and theentireoffice knows what he does with the other one.

By Dan

August 10, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

RCH, can you prove that you played for Pepper. Can you prove that you are not 27 years old? Prove some of the shiit that you talk. Until you actually prove it RCH it is just more of your wanting us to take your word for it. That ain’t gonna happen pal.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

Or should I say now I know why they are progressives; they are easily mislead.( Global warming, the war in Iraq is unwinnable etc.)

By Wesley

August 10, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

RCH, does your boyfriend wear one of those “I’m with stupid” Tshirts when you go walking hand in hand?

By RCH

August 10, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

Lat comment:

Dan The prof is in the pudding. Obviously you have trouble comprehending a simple statement. I have propsed meeting numerous times with many of you for adult libations. No takers. What do you have to hide pal?

By Diana

August 10, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

Pushing Mrs. Vasquez around was a real rush for you wasn’t it RCH?

By jm

August 10, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

well, while I do not agree with RCH, I fail to see how attacking his character has anything to do with the merits of his arguments or positions regarding US involvement in Iraq. If the only thing you can bring to the debate is attacks on your opponents character, it shows the emptiness of your argument.

By Dan

August 10, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

RCH, give me your cell # and I will be glad to set up a meet with you for “libations”. Until that happens it would be foolish for anyone here to be so stupid as to believe that a meeting with RCH would be nothing more than a wild goose chase. Balls in your court pal.

By Johnny Reb

August 10, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

RCH, Seems like if these guys had such a problem, they would have stepped up to the plate. But then again paper tigers are always the badest when either your back is turned or they are a cross town. But never face to face. Know a few of them too. Take care……………. all you have a plesane weekend.

By BS Aplenty (Takes a Flyer)

August 10, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

My only questions is: was Mrs. Vasquez a Mexican porker (not so pleasant) or a real Latina hottie? Just tryin’ to get my fantansy straight.

By Diana

August 10, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

His lies about his personal station in life is why he is being attacked jm. It has nothing to do at all with his political arguments. This thing with RCH goes way back. He earned all of it with his bigotry. Maybe you were not around for all that but thatis what it was about. Nobody here has to believe anything that anybody says but I witnessed the Mrs Vasquez incident. I know the story of RCH. And by the way, if you have ever seen one of those documentaries on the aryan brothers or the skinheads, that is the physical appearence of RCH.

By Johnny Reb

August 10, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Well Al Davis, Just seems to like if the entire working office had a proble with RCH atleast one would have had enough grit to stand up and say something. But then again like I said paper tigers never do. Kudos to Dan for stepping up. So the rest manup or shutup your choice.

By Dan

August 10, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Hey RCH! Little big man. I stepped up. Now the ball is in your court. Your # to arrange the libation meeting. Give it up or shut up.

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

Until they turn 28, Hispanic Women are the hottest things in der verld.

Every woman turns into Aunt Bea sooner or later.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

Jim

I do not know what the rules are in this aspect. But I would be glad to meet in a group setting with any that are willing. Would in be possible to have a small gathering at a local watering hole, hosted by you, to get a chance to meet each other?

By Diana

August 10, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

Those that know RCH have already spent a hell of alot more time with him than should be wished on any human being Johnny Reb.

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

Miller Time Approaching, officially called at 5:00 pm Friday, Aug. 10, 2007.

Moderation. Enjoy. Suggest tall cold ones. (The girls, not the beer). 12 ounce bottles are smarter, you know how much you can handle. (three or four max, then go home, people)

By BS Aplenty

August 10, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

BlobFather

You aren’t in the fantasy, blob off.

By Dan

August 10, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

Now you want Jim to run interference huh RCH. I stepped up. You are stepping back. Would love to meet you for libation. Since you so vehemently pushed for this meeting and chastised others for not accepting, the least you can do is give me your cell #. No Wooten, no crowd. Just you and me RCH. Put up or shut up.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

Dan Stupidity doe not run in my family. I have always advocated a group setting. Ditto jbmlaw and Debbiedoright. Lets hear from Jim. If he is willing to be there so will I. I am not in the mood for a wild goose chase.

By Goecks

August 10, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

Wooten ain’t around to bail you out huh RCH? Dayum! Just left his stick bud high and dry.

By Johnny Reb

August 10, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

OK, guys and girls. Eough let’s play nice. It really doesn’t matter happened in the past none of us change that. But we are all entitled to see thing or believe as we do, So let’s get back to the topic of dicussion and cut us all some slack on the personal side. K………..

By getalife

August 10, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

Nobody wants to meet with you RCH.

Try a dating blog loser.

Geez.

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

Well, I never!

By RCH

August 10, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

Johnny Reb

No lets don’t. I have been hearing a lot from Mr. Patel. I would like to settle this once and for all. JBMLAW, even though we don’t always agree I do have respect for you. You name a place and time such as a bookstore,etc. I will buy you the fist round. You be there, so will I and we shall see who has misrepresented who. Dan will you agree to this? Anybody else?

By Jim Wooten

August 10, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

RCH, I can’t promise a meeting of the Thinking Right clan, but if we ever did it’d be a civil affair. Meanwhile, contributors shouldn’t introduce the names, if real, of non-contributors as concurring with an expressed opinion.

By RCH

August 10, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

Johnny Reb

No lets don’t. I have been hearing a lot from Mr. Patel. I would like to settle this once and for all. JBMLAW, even though we don’t always agree I do have respect for you. You name a place and time such as a bookstore,etc. I will buy you the fist round. You be there, so will I and we shall see who has misrepresented who. Dan will you agree to this? Anybody else?

By RCH

August 10, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this

Going to work out. We will meet somehow?

By Diana

August 10, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

There you go folks. RCH postured, blustered, and passed alot of gas, and now this willingness to meet “anybody, anywhere” has turned into Wooten has to assemble a group. Basically protect ole RCH after all the crap he talked. Now you guys see the problem with him. All talk, no walk.

By Really RCH

August 10, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

Dude, get a grip. It’s just a blog, man. It’s not all serious like Wrestlemania or something. Nobody is going to lose their title or anything. Just roll with it, dude.

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

The sociopaths from this blog who would be dumb enough to meet anyone else from this blog could be a civil liability for wooten and the AJC if someone were say murdered by the no good, dirty, yellow, lyin pieces of confederate trash who lose control here on a regular basis…….

just kidding. Have fun. Meet new people. Be my guest. Just dont come crying to me if it’s a Dateline Internet Predator ambush. Dig?

By getalife

August 10, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

Lets meet at a Mexican restaurant in Norcross.

Bwa.

I will pass on meeting the wingnuts.

Geez, no thanks Jim.

By Johnny Reb

August 10, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this

The BlogFather, I hear ya. To all have safe weekend, rest up and we can start again on Monday. Take care

By mary

August 11, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

what’s most impressive about the Usher wedding is that he did it quietly in a lawyer’s office. No multi-million dollar spectacle wedding put on for the tabloid press, no selling the wedding pictures for millions. Just the actual, you know, getting married. Good for him.