Thinking Right

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. With all due respect, Dr. Broun is not thinking far enough ahead. If we totally decriminalize marijuana, our leftist friends would forget to vote. As is normally the case, voting for freedom also facilitates the best interests of conservatives.

If I embraced Bill Gross’s argument, the most worthy charity out there would be the Foundation for Economic Education. Of course, I don’t have a problem with Napoleonic coronations; if Jane Doe wants to spend it all on PBS or Move On or some similar total waste, why shouldn’t she? It’s her money.

By Redneck Convert

August 6, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this

Forget medical pot and what rich people do with their money and who takes money from the lobbys. Us godly conservatives got a election to worry about.

Me and my buddy Jim Earl watched the debate last night and we pretty well decided no Republican can win next year. So we think its time to cancell the 2008 election on account of a National Emergincy. We can’t have a human tomcat walking around the White House and making passes at everybody while a woman president makes the big decisions when she should be in the kitchen baking cookies like Sister Dusty and feeding her starving fambly.

Besides, us godly conservatives almost got the courts the way we want them and we got a war to fight and the librul Democrats will raise our taxes. So let’s just put a stop to the election next year and say we’ll take it up just as soon as the National Emergincy is over and maybe the country likes us godly Republicans better. I know jbmlaw will say its all legal-like and TFTT is use to the English system where they don’t give too much attention to things like constitutions and rights and such.

I know the librul Democrats will whine about stopping the election. They are always saying constitution this and constitution that. They probly check the constitution to see if its OK if they go to the bathroom. Well, My President has got around the constitution so far without much trouble. He can just make one of them Signing Statements the way he does with laws he don’t like and changes the meaning of and he can say the constitution really means you hold elections if there ain’t no National Emergincy.

Me and Jim Earl figure things will be better for us godly Republicans in another couple years oncet the war is won and the tax cuts stay and the courts overrule integration and school busing and abortion and we can hold the election then. My President can just make a Signing Statement that says the National Emergincy is over and we can return to the elections.

Anyway, the debate was real disappointing. They all puffed their chest out like a robin in the spring and argued about which one was against abortion first and which one had the most time running a city or state. Can’t none of them beat a Democrat next year unless they get a good picture of this Hillary woman in bed with a goat or maybe this Osama guy getting caught with three wifes.

I don’t know why the godless libruls want to change everything now that we got them going so good. Anyway, all us godly Republicans got running is a guy on his third wife and a librul to boot and a guy that ain’t even a Baptist Christian but a godless Mormon and a old fellow that got his brain addled when he was a POW and now his own people is leaving him. Then we got the nuts that can’t make but a single point and probly can’t boil water.

That’s me and Jim Earl’s opinion and its very true. Well, time to make my beer run. The Baptists about cleaned out the bars again Sunday afternoon and I even got a call from Billy Bob wanting to know if I could make a delivery at 3 in the morning. Us godly Republicans know what is Right but we got a Powerful Thirst.

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

From Wooten: “Democrats and their media enablers in a snit over Photo ID are as out-of-sync with mainstream Georgia as they are with mainstream America on surrender in Iraq”.

J Wooten, have you been reading your own bushcrap lately or what!!??!! EVERY poll conducted in the past 18 months show that Americans want OUT of Iraq!! As for Georgia……well, they still have no liquor on Sundays, sodomy laws, and “right to work” laws.

I guess you have to say something about Georgia voters since this is the state we live in; however, some of these same people voted for Bob Barr, SonnyDoo, Cynthia McKinney, and Casey “grease my pocket” Cagle. Using Georgia as an example to back up your claim, really isn’t such a bright idea.

By Analchord

August 6, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

If a tree falls in the Performing Arts Center in Cobb County, would Al Gore blame the Repudlickans?

By Van

August 6, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

The rest of Georgia, outside the perimeter, may not be in favor of the war, but do not want to surrender to the bad guys. Anyway the surge is working give it a chance.

I have no problem showing a photo id to vote, if I didn’t think it was important, then I might whine about it being too hard to get a photo id.

Regarding “Right to work”, what is the down side to this?

Those inside I-285 are the main ones out of touch with the real world.

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

Dear Debbie @ 9:34, I think you confused yourself. I want us out of Iraq. I also think we need to stay until the job is done (even if that is 50 years from now); I think that is what Jim says in his morning essay. The polls are consistent with the conservative view. Your side knows that, intuitively; that is why the party in control of Congress only makes faux motions toward an Iraq retreat. You also avoided Jim’s obvious point, that photo ID for voting is a winner with the electorate. I also think it is a “right” thing, that it helps validate the integrity of the process. What say ye on that issue?

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

Never thought I’d agree with ANYTHING Newt said, however…..

“I believe we need to find leaders who are prepared to tell the truth … about the failures of the performance of Republicans … failed bureaucracies … about how dangerous the world is,” he said when asked what kind of Republican he would back for president.”

By RCH

August 6, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

* DebbieDoRight *

Even I want out of Iraq, but under my terms, not the insurgents.(terrorist, murders)Newest Zogby poll does not support your claim Debbie.

To best show support for the troops, 42% believe Congress should fully fund the war in Iraq to maintain current troop levels, while 34% would favor attaching requirements for phased withdrawal to Iraq war funding. Just 18% said cutting all funding for the war in Iraq to bring troops home would be the best showing of Congressional support. Congress has proposed a bill continuing funding the war in Iraq, but that would require the withdrawal of the majority of troops there by Spring of 2008 – a plan favored by 49% of Americans. But nearly as many (45%) are opposed to this plan.

We went through this last week, Debbie. What is wrong with requiring a Photo I.D. to vote. The State of Ga. will come to your home to supply you with one, so long you provide proper documentation. Who are you trying to protect?

By Analchord

August 6, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

Napoleon and Bush: war for war’s sake. How’s that working out?

It doesn’t matter if Bush was trying to win the war on terror, preserve, protect, and defend our constitution as he saw fit, or if God told him to attack Iraq.

What matters is that there is no reality based strategic mission for our troops, (nor was there for Napoleon), and look what happens when the “mission” aint real.

We are in for it. better call the island of Elba. “Yes, I’d like to reserve a room….yes, a beach facing window would be nice….uh My last name is Napoleon…..Napoleon…yes, one P,…wet bar? no, I’m bringing my own wine….do you rent sailboats?”

By Dusty

August 6, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

Well, since I have finished eating the leftover dinner cookies from last night (thank you, rednecks, you big phony) I commend Jim Wooten on his clear thinking.

This line alone is perfect.Democrats and their media enablers in a snit over Photo ID are as out-of-sync with Mainstream Georgia as they are with Mainstream America on surrender in Iraq. Amen, Jim.

And may I add to the discontented ones in Georgia, there are several other beautiful states you should join and enjoy. New Hampshire, Vermont, and California are waiting for you. Don’t let us keep you.

By Curious Observer

August 6, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

42% believe Congress should fully fund the war in Iraq to maintain current troop levels, while 34% would favor attaching requirements for phased withdrawal to Iraq war funding. Just 18% said cutting all funding for the war in Iraq to bring troops home would be the best showing of Congressional support.

So, 52% of Americans want either phased withdrawal or immediate withdrawal, while 42% want to maintain current troop levels. And RCH believes these figures reflect American support for the current course in Iraq. How about awarding RCH a Hope scholarship and enrolling him in a remedial learning course? This guy probably misses the commode seven times out of ten.

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

Van: The rest of Georgia, outside the perimeter, may not be in favor of the war, but do not want to surrender to the bad guys. Anyway the surge is working give it a chance.

The surge is working? The general in charge hasn’t given his report yet; so where could you have read that the surge is working? In the Never-Never Land Daily Gazette?

Regarding “Right to work”, what is the down side to this?

THE “AT WILL” EMPLOYMENT DOCTRINE, In Georgia, most employees usually are regarded as employees “at will.” This means that the employee works at the will of the employer and the employer can fire the worker for any reason at any time. It has been said that the worker can be terminated for “a good reason, a bad reason, or for no reason at all.”The at will rule allows an employer to terminate employees for almost any reason. For example, Georgia courts have said that employers can terminate employees for refusing to commit a crime, reporting crimes committed by other employees, filing a workers’ compensation claim, filing for bankruptcy, and testifying against the employer in a court proceeding.

Those inside I-285 are the main ones out of touch with the real world.

Considering that national polls state that 80-90% of the country disagree with Dumbya, disagree with how the Republicans are ruining America, disagree with the Bush Adminstration, disagree with the “War” in Iraq; for you to make a comment like that……well…..whew….what can I possibly say to that?!?!?

By RCH

August 6, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Curious Observer

52% is not the”overwhelming majority” that you always hear is it now.I wounder how those numbers will change in Sept. when the general releases his assessment.

If it is positive you will; see Hillary dance like a 3 legged cat on ice.

By TW

August 6, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Jim - do the right thing by following Newt’s attempt at putting a serious face back on the conservative argument…own up to your mistakes, Jim…set yourself free…

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw: Dear Debbie @ 9:34, I think you confused yourself. I want us out of Iraq. I also think we need to stay until the job is done (even if that is 50 years from now)*

How about 100 years? What about in 300 years? Are you willing to support a reinstitution of the draft? (Because that’s what it’s going to take to stay for another 50 years! we can’t do it with our depeleted demoralized troops that we have now); Are you willing to do as our elders did during WWII and ration your gas consumption? Are you willing to sacrifice anything besides soldiers for the benefit of this “war on terror”?

I think that is what Jim says in his morning essay. The polls are consistent with the conservative view. Your side knows that, intuitively; that is why the party in control of Congress only makes faux motions toward an Iraq retreat.

It’s sad to say, but I think both you and Jim may need to go and see the doctor for a check up. You might be just a wee bit dyslexic; along with a touch of “are you fraking insane?!”

You also avoided Jim’s obvious point, that photo ID for voting is a winner with the electorate. I also think it is a “right” thing, that it helps validate the integrity of the process.

It is now the law. I will adhere to the law; while doing everything I can to change it at the earliest possible time. However, I think the “shell” game the repuglican party is playing will blow up in their faces in the near future.

What say ye on that issue?

Ye say ya’ll are crazy!!! It’s gonna be great in ‘08!!! :)

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

RCH: What polls have you been reading? The ones on Fox (snicker, snicker) News?

We went through this last week, Debbie. What is wrong with requiring a Photo I.D. to vote.

Please read comment to jbmlaw concerning said issue. Thanks!!

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

Dear Debbie @ 10:02, I think you don’t know what is a “Right to Work” law. It has nothing to do with employment at will.

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

Dear Debbie @ 10:14, unless you are ready to be measured for your Burkha, I think you should agree that we need to do in Iraq whatever it takes, however long it takes, to kill all of the remaining Islamists. As the military performs better without cowards, I oppose a draft; your argument of “that’s what it takes” is silly. Just pay them what it is worth, you’ll get all you need and then some. You err is asserting “poor morale” and you need not look beyond the leftists’s article in last week’s NYT. You equate victory with sacrifice, a false equation, but I am willing to sacrifice all non-military government spending if that is what it takes.

By Van

August 6, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

Have you read the New York Times lately? They had a nice [editorial[(http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/01/opinion/01west.html?ex=1335672000&en=1e8881a56ea97cd2&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss) piece last May.

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

jmblaw: I did make an error. Instead of calling it “right to work”, which is a misnomer of the point i was trying to make; I had meant to say “At Will” law. Sorry for the confusion.

By RCH

August 6, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight

Zogby. Not good news for you is it?

By ron

August 6, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

I am against the mess in Iraq,I wouldn’t be against a war over there if someone wanted to declare one.My favorite charity is The Ron Fund.I donate regularly.I don’t mind a photo id to vote,I just mind showing it.All your phone calls will now be monitored legally.This e-mail will go on some government file as soon as I push send.Real nefarious stuff,I’m in to.

By Van

August 6, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

According to the latest poll numbers, the mainstream of American agrees with Bush more than it agrees with Congress - hmm, I wonder why.

By deegee

August 6, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Here’s a good way to spend your billions. Arm the Shia militias in Iraq. How do you defend sending your children and grandchildren to Iraq when the government is so inept at fighting a war? If you don’t trust the US government to run a health care program, or to enforce the borders then why trust them to run a war?

Here’s a bit of the article, read it entirely and weep.

The United States has spent $19.2 billion trying to develop Iraqi security forces since 2003, the GAO said, including at least $2.8 billion to buy and deliver equipment. But the GAO said weapons distribution was haphazard and rushed and failed to follow established procedures, particularly from 2004 to 2005, when security training was led by Gen. David H. Petraeus, who now commands all U.S. forces in Iraq.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20137021/

By Shar

August 6, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

I’m surprised that Mr. Wooten disagrees with Rep. Braun’s vote against federal oversight on states’ medical marijuana legislation. Rep. Braun made it very clear that his vote was in support of an overarching principle - state’s rights - that he regarded as more important than his personal opposition to recreational marijuana use. Not to mention that recreational and prescribed use are two very different things. Just ask Rush Limbaugh. Rep. Braun’s support of states’ rights is probably much more in tune with his constituency than would have been a vote for federal intervention, and his ability to see and act on the principle is most likely appreciated by those he represents.

Speaking of being in tune with a constituency, Mr. Wooten’s daily slap at Democrats strikes me as particularly ill-judged today. Characterizing serious Constitutional concerns as “a snit” is a sneering attempt to trivialize a point of view without having to rationally respond, and thus damages the credibility of the evader much more than that of the person being attacked. He might want to avoid flinging charges of media enablement around as well, particularly in the same sentence as a bald-faced, partisan-induced lie regarding the wishes of “mainstream America” on withdrawal from Iraq. The latest CNN poll reports that 69% of adults disapprove with the President’s handling of the Iraq situation, 66% believe things are going badly there and 66% support immediate troop reduction or withdrawal. Only 15% support maintaing current troop levels.

Media enablers who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Or throw them stoned, unless under a doctor’s supervision.

By RCH

August 6, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

Debbiedoright

Numbers to support Van. Neither side has the confidence of the American people.

Just 24% give the president favorable ratings of his performance in handling the war in Iraq, but confidence in Congress is significantly worse – only 3% give Congress positive marks for how it has handled the war. This lack of confidence in Congress cuts across all ideologies. Democrats – some of whom had hoped the now Democrat-led Congress would bring an end to the war in Iraq – expressed overwhelming displeasure with how Congress has handled the war, with 94% giving Congress a negative rating in its handling specifically of that issue

By Disgusted

August 6, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

Let’s completely close the voting fraud loop by requiring that a poll worker be present when a voter completes an absentee ballot. The greatest potential for voting fraud appears to be in the case of absentee ballots. I have never had an instance in Georgia in which I was not required to show a photo ID at the polls when my name was being checked against the voter register. Yet, every election features thousands of ballots mailed out to faceless voters who choose not to appear at the polls.

However, absentee balloting is fraught with the potential for fraud. How is the vote registrar to know that the person applying to receive and mail in an absentee ballot is even still alive? How do we know that the voter receiving the absentee ballot is the same person who completed the ballot? And how do we know that the absentee voter isn’t being intimidated in completing the absentee ballot at home? We have rules regarding the presence of a second person in the voting booth, but no rules apply to completion of an absentee ballot.

If the people advocating for voter ID at the polls are sincere in their stated belief in voting integrity as a reason, they ought to be twice as suspicious of absentee balloting. Yet, these advocates are saying nothing about absentee ballots. I’ll be ready to accept their stated motivation for photo ID validation once I see their support for more rigorous standards for absentee balloting. Otherwise, I will be ready to ascribe their support for photo ID to political, racial, and ethnic bias. There are, after all, many more absentee ballots than cases of disputed or doubtful eligibility at the polls.

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw: As the military performs better without cowards, I oppose a draft; your argument of “that’s what it takes” is silly. Just pay them what it is worth, you’ll get all you need and then some.

jbmlaw — what you fail to remember OR realize is that I am a military wife and have a better pulse on the feelings and morale of the military more so than the NYT, Faux News, etc. I live this life, along with countless others every day. I hear the stories from returning soldiers; I visit Walter Reed and hear what the fallen are saying after their return from Iraq and Afghanistan. I don’t need no stinking NYT, et al.; to tell me what my eyes and ears have seen and heard for themselves.

Recruitement is DOWN. All the “incentives/pay increases, etc.” in the world is not worth someone’s child’s, husband’s, uncle’s, sister’s, mother’s, aunt’s one drop of their blood.

“Over the longer term, meeting recruiting targets will remain challenging,” Sec. Dominguez said. “Propensity to enlist is down; willingness of coaches, teachers, counselors and parents to commend military service to America’s youth is lower than is good for our nation and our military; the numbers of people who meet our enlistment standards is astonishingly low.”

You equate victory with sacrifice, a false equation, but I am willing to sacrifice all non-military government spending if that is what it takes

How many personal sacrifices are you willing to concede? You speak of the government sacrifices, what about the personal ones? Again, I ask, what are YOU willing to sacrifice in order to “Win the war on terror”? And how LONG are you committed to making that sacrifice?

Right now, I’m sacrificing my marriage, my youth, and my future family for this war; so don’t sneer at me because I ask you what you’re willing to do.

PS: Honest answers only; NO Repuglican soundbites please.

By getalife

August 6, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

How bad is this gop spy bill?

There ya go.

By Mrs. RepubLady

August 6, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

I am very disappointed to read of Paul Broun’s support of medical marijuana. As a stock holder in a number of large, profitable pharmaceutical companies, I oppose any kind of natural medicine whatsoever. Who do people think they are, wanting to grow an inigend— ingindeous—- er,… native plant to use personally for their own illness? If it isn’t studied, chemically-processed, mass-produced, and heavily-advertised to afford ME a hefty profit, then you have no business putting it in your body, I don’t care how sick or broke you are!!! This is America, gosh dang it, and MY PROFITS ARE ALL THAT MATTER!!! P.S. God bless you Mr. Wooten, for your never-ending support of my defense contractor stock profits!!!

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

Dear Shar @ 10:50, while I generally find much to agree with in your essays, I think Jim hit it right with “snit.” When people trivialize the Constitution with frivolous issues, they ought to be so dinged. Surely you would agree that not every “inconvenience” imposed by government is unconstitutional; compare the inconvenience of flashing a photo id with, say, the taking of one’s home under either civil forfeiture laws or eminent domain. The opposition to photo id is a snit.

By Captain Freedom

August 6, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

While THE Captain commends Mr Wooten for his pithy dismissal of the 60% of the American public that wishes to cutandrun as “out of the mainstream”, he is seriously concerned about another apostasy that has emerged in his writings.

Twice in the past several days, Mr Wooten has written approvingly of the she-Devil Klinton. Today he follows that with “Put it on the record”. THE Captain is agog at this lunacy.

Perhaps his Godless colleague Cynthia Tucker McKinney has hijacked the Godly Blog of Wooten and is aiming to make him look bad? Certainly, no Right Thinking True Believer would willingly concede that the Sharp Tongued Harpie from Hades is correct in any way, shape or form.

Straighten up, Mr W. The re-education camps are not just for the Swarthy Brown People, you know.

By Van

August 6, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

Shar,

The problem I have with medical marijuana is the way is is handled in California. A state that says, just bring in a note from the local quack and you can toke up.

First problem is who supplies the crop? Is the farmer licensed to grow an illegal crop. What process would have to be in place to prevent illegal harvesting in the middle of the night by the local college fraternity?

Next, we have to have a grading system. Who will run that? How will the FDA approve and certify it?

Distribution becomes a big problem. Trying to move the crop from where it is grown - legally - to where it enters the market. All those legal hoops to jump through.

And finally, we come to the problem of how to get it to the population that might need it. It should obviously be by prescription, like other drugs, and should be dispenses at the local corner drug store.

Other than that, I do not see any problem with Kemo and other medical patients having access.

However as a recreational drug, a big NO!.

We have enough of those already, why muddy the waters more.

By getalife

August 6, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

The prohibition on weed is working like the one on booze.

Legalize it idiots.

Tax it, we need the money for the trillion wasted in Iraq.

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Dear Disgusted @ 10:55, I understood the identity was proved by a notary public for mailed ballots; I know that is the case in other states. Is that not the case in Georgia?

Dear Debbie @ 10:56, while I appreciate your sacrifice and your husband’s sacrifice, I also have a pipeline to the military, and what I hear does correspond to the positive reports I see in the media. I do not yield to your expertise on this issue. As to personal sacrifice, certainly my son does not count from your perspective. I propose taking every penny spent on nonmilitary government, shutting down the nonmilitary portion of government, and dividing that fund by the number of people/days in Iraq, and paying it pro-rata to those serving; no adjustment for grade level, just per person x number of days there, payable monthly.

By van's a nose picker

August 6, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

By your argument, do we need to make morphine illegal?

By Shar

August 6, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

Dear jbmlaw@11:04: I believe that the same derogation you support was directed at the poll tax by those who did not wish to share the right to vote with the property-less. I strongly believe that the more citizens who vote, the better off the country is, even though I may disagree with the votes being cast. Hampering or discouraging legitimate voters from participating in the rights and duties of citizenship is neither inconvenient nor frivolous, it is destructive. The highly suspect nature of the DOJ’s review makes it more so. Fobbing off the discussion by trivializing it is both brutish and elitist.

However, your point about my “essays” hits very close to home, I fear. I must strive for pithiness, and apologize for my windiness. Mr. Wooten’s ability to tuck several highly objectionable thoughts into one compact sentence in point three today commands as much respect as the thoughts do exasperation. I must strive to emulate.

By RCH

August 6, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

getalife

While I believe in the legalization of marijuana ( being a conservative libertarian), the argument that may be made is at what point do the stem the flow of recreational drugs ie. crystal meth, heroin, cocaine. If I sit in my home and partake in the use of these without harming others; who’s to say no to any drug use?

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

I do not yield to your expertise on this issue.

You don’t have to. go to military.com; click on the blogs; and READ IT FOR YOURSELF. Read how the families of the soldiers are faring; read how the returning disabled soldiers are faring. When you’ve done that go to the pentagon’s web page and READ FOR YOURSELF how enlistment is going down since the “war”. You are supposedly smart, so all I’m asking is that you look at the data with an unjaundiced unpolitical eye and read it for yourself.

AGAIN I’m asking: How many personal sacrifices are you willing to concede? You speak of the government sacrifices, what about the personal ones? Again, I ask, what are YOU willing to sacrifice in order to “Win the war on terror”? And how LONG are you committed to making that sacrifice? Would you support reinstating the draft if that was the only way to “win the war on terror”?

You have yet to answer any of these questions.

By RCH

August 6, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight

We are all already making small sacrifices in the war against terrorism. Do you remember taking your shoes off at the airport before 911. Look at all the other things you now cannot do. I will make any and all sacrifices to win this war on terror, no matter how long it takes.

Debbie, what choice do we have. This war is not just being fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is here. On our streets and in our homes and offices.

By getalife

August 6, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

I will make any and all sacrifices to win this war on terror, no matter how long it takes.

Except enlist chickenhawk.

Booze is worse than weed.

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

RCH: What personal sacrifices are you willing to make in order for the continuing support and occupation of Iraq? And how LONG are you committed to making that sacrifice? Would you support reinstating the draft if that was the only way to “win the war on terror”?

PS: Taking your shoes off at an airport is NOT a sacrifice.

By Dusty

August 6, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

At last, you threw TOO MUCH fat in the fire. We KNOW that Dudley, your husband, is in the military soon to be in Afghanistan. But we also KNOW that jbmlaw has a son in the Navy.

Why you think your opinion is far more important than that of jbmlaw’s is beyond my comprehension. I think you owe jbm an apology. Besides that, your idea of “support” for the troops is to visit and sympathize while “knocking” the war. That is also insulting to other Americans who not only have family members in the military, they ALSO SUPPORT the war.

By RCH

August 6, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

getalife

I was registered for the draft back during the Vietnam war. I would have served if called. My father served 2 tours. If it came down to it, I would serve in this action.

“Booze is worse than weed.” Both fry your brain, but that is your business.

By Captain Freedom

August 6, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

RCH is correct. The extent of THE Captain’s sacrfices know no bounds. In addition to shoes, THE Captain was instructed to remove his belt, too. It was nigh on impossible to keep my trousers up as I passed through the metal detector. Imagine THE Captain’s dual shame…first, suspected of being a swarthy shoebombing suicider (despite his impeccably lily-white skin); and second, subject of the sniggering and finger-pointing of the dusky-hued authoritarians of the TSA, cackling with mirth as my trousers slipped southwards.

In addition to these severe privations, THE Captain has also spent into the high double-digits to festoon his automotive conveyance with ribbons attesting to my support and sacrifice for Our Troops (but not that sh!thead Scott Beauchamp who is really just and Isalmloving terror enabler). Add to that the progressive and chronic carpal tunnel syndrome THE Captain has developed in his Mighty Keyboard Warrior role as scourge of the bedwettingpantywaistliberals in this and other Online Hamburger Hills.

Yes, RCH and I have — and continue to — sacrificed much in the Never Ending Global War on Terror. And we will continue to conduct ourselves in exactly this fashion to defeat the Evil Doers, no matter how long it takes.

By getalife

August 6, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

RCH,

I has come to it.

You talk the talk now walk the walk or STFU.

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Dear Shar @ 11:21, I did not intend my use of the term “essay” as opprobrium – on the contrary, you are one of the most readable and enjoyable minds on the blog, and I urge you to continue in your customary format. I’ll disclose my differing perspective nevertheless – I do not equate larger numbers of voters with a “better off” country; that merely gives an appearance of popular approval to an illegitimate entity. I am more attracted to Dr. Williams’s suggestion for something like cumulative voting rights pro rata to taxes paid, so that those who pay the piper name the tune – maybe one vote for every $10,000 taxes paid for example. Prevents a tyranny of the majority, and would keep politicians from buying voters with spending programs.

Dear Debbie @ 11:28, that you continue to demand “sacrifice” does not make that a rational thought process. Are you talking about the goody packages that Mrs. jbmlaw puts together a few times each year – not really much sacrifice, other than the time. Only leftists demand pointless sacrifice in support of larger principles; that is not a conservative value or thought-process. The same thought process leads to “carbon offsets” and similar forms of karma, none of which serve any useful purpose. Nevertheless, I am receptive to any intelligent argument you wish to make; exactly what “personal” sacrifice could any American make that would enhance the lives of our noble servicemen. Sacrifice that does not translate directly to a better life for our servicemen is pointless and unworthy of you.

As to “reinstating the draft” as the only way to win in Iraq, that is a false hypothetical. But I am receptive to an argument - tie “reinstating the draft” to an inevitable victory in Iraq, and you may be able to persuade me.

By time for the truth

August 6, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

The fantastic voter id law in GA is easily one of the most visionary and practical, sensible laws ever enacted in Dixie. Patriotic law abiding folks should note that its the usual swinish herd of black racial spoils racebaiting filth and their despicable guilt ridden far left latte sipping pandering white trash leftist enablers that are pukng up all the unwarranted desperate deranged criticism.

I see the execrable peeping tom is back to hurling its vulgar visceral unprovoked (toilet training) abuse. As yours truly so cleverly and effortlessly proved on Friday the swiftest way to get the dogturd peeping tom to gutlessly change what shamelessly passes for its feckless retarded little mind is to simply agree with it. This linguine spined, flaccid brained far left peeping tom wanker is one of my very fave treasonous leftist scumbags to endlessly goad on here.

I see the worthless shrill cut and runner crackpipe debbiebitch is back to hurling equally unprovoked oafish abuse at Senor Wooten.

Seems like the witless COCKroach inbred rednekkk has had itself another XXXXL crystal meth flavoured possum spit shake - as ever its imbecilic self indulgent turgid bollocks this morning was about as funny as yet another one of thousands of robotic anal analwart foreskin’s hissy fits about the human scum Vick and his dog murderin’ crew.

at least Mrs Oedipus-NAMBLA’s cyber silence proffers some small mercy … nice to know its still being held in child sex offender custody up there in let’s abjectly grovel to the towel head enemy land of restorative justice queers and freaks VT.

I see that the blacks and illegal leeches have been busy killing and attempting to kill each other over the weekend in metro Atlanta. The murderous thuggish cancer of black crime will NEVER EVER END until the decent black folks actually systematically stand up to these hippety hop lovin’ gansta scum and say enough is enough. For a couple of decades now countless blacks have been as gutless and cowardly as many Iraqis have been in not confronting the enemy within. Thus racist blacks disgustingly and dishonestly blame whitey and the Iraqis blame the US for bombings and killings perpetrated by towel head fascists.

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

Dear Dusty @ 11:56, thanks for your passion, but I don’t really think Debbie owes me an apology. She did not know about the Ensign, but her argument is flawed for other reasons. I would rather engage her intellectually.

By getalife

August 6, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

It has come to it.

Geez.

By getalife

August 6, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

I would rather engage her intellectually.

That is a sure loser.

Geez.

By time for the truth

August 6, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

Yet another vicious black criminal butcher story - all too soon to be forgotten as the usual indifference oozes out. NO ONE will say or do ANYTHING to stop this. The media just blandly report the story - NO FINGER POINTING at black culture, unlike the incessant cut and run Bush hate - NO ACTION - but hark at the shrill unremitting screeches of racism at (the all too rare instances of) legitimate criticism of blacks and black culture when day after day after day after day after day after day black criminals perpetrate outrage after outrage.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,292200,00.html

By RCH

August 6, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight

What sacrifice would be enough? I will support your husband and jbmlaws son any way you wish: financially, morally, etc. I have done so in the past through a program at Ft. Benning where my father is laid to rest. I want them to accomplish their mission, win and come home.

That is more than some can say. Those who would support our enemy for their own political gain. Guess who?

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight We KNOW that Dudley, your husband, is in the military soon to be in Afghanistan. But we also KNOW that jbmlaw has a son in the Navy.

AND? The question I posed to him was “How many personal sacrifices are you willing to concede? What are YOU willing to sacrifice in order to “Win the war on terror”? And how LONG are you committed to making that sacrifice? Would you support reinstating the draft if that was the only way to “win the war on terror”?

Which he has yet to answer. I will pose the SAME QUESTION TO YOU Dusty; I would really like to see your response. jbmlaw has not even stated that he is willing to sacrifice his gasoline consumption in order to help the troops. Yet he is willing to sacrifice human LIVES*. What personal sacrifice are YOU willing to make dusty?

PS: Blogging on a local blog does not count.

Why you think your opinion is far more important than that of jbmlaw’s is beyond my comprehension.

AND?

I think you owe jbm an apology.

I think you’re on crack, so now we’re even.

Besides that, your idea of “support” for the troops is to visit and sympathize while “knocking” the war

Don’t start with me Dusty. For someone who actually SUPPORTS THE WAR, how many military families have you visited and “sympathized” with? How many funerals have you gone to? How many times have you traveled to Walter Reed to lend support for the fallen? Oh that’s right NONE. You’re too busy blogging.

That is also insulting to other Americans who not only have family members in the military, they ALSO SUPPORT the war

They support something that they have nothing to loose from??!! Whoopppeee!!! Some support!! Some sacrifice!!! Perhaps you can start a blog about it you can call it “I have nothing to personal to loose from this war, that’s why I support it! Because If I DID have something to loose I’d be more apt to keep my big mouth shut”.

Feel free to start the blog anytime you wish.

By OBJECTION!

August 6, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Only leftists demand pointless sacrifice in support of larger principles; that is not a conservative value or thought-process.

My my my, what a liar you are. Today, and every other day. You’d have a woman sacrifice her own life, health, future, and sanity gestating the seed of a rapist, on some sort of “principle” wouldn’t you? You’d have our soldiers sacrifice their lives in someone else’s civil war on the “principle” of saving face for all the Bush lickers, wouldn’t you? Liar. Fake.

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

Dear TFTT @ 12:03, your harshly-phrased last paragraph is a brilliant argument, my compliments.

By Jackie

August 6, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

The GA photo ID law is no more than a modern poll tax. Last I remember, there are no facilities in the city of Atlanta to obtain your driver’s license. The citizens are required to take Marta to DeKalb County to get their driver’s license.

On the national level, the Pentagon reports it can not account for $3.5 TRILLION dollars; it can not account for $11 BILLION in Iraq; it can not account for 190,000 weapons given to the Iraqi’s; the 4 years of training for the Iraqi security forces is not enough, keeping in mind our ground forces only require 8 weeks of basic training and 8-10 weeks of Advanced Infantry Training with many given 10 days leaves before being shipped to Iraq. When does the circle of lies and theft stop.

As for the Dems, there is no need for those who voted for Bush domestic spying program to try and explain it to us. They too will be kicked out of office with the Repubs during the next cycle.

By getalife

August 6, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

These idiots think taking your shoes off at airports is sacrificing.

Talk the talk but don’t walk the walk.

Cowards.

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Dear JK @ 12:21, you reflect well the apogee of moonbat critique.

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

Dear Debbie @ 12:17, you have not yet responded to my arguments @ 12:02: “Only leftists demand pointless sacrifice in support of larger principles; that is not a conservative value or thought-process. The same thought process leads to “carbon offsets” and similar forms of karma, none of which serve any useful purpose. Nevertheless, I am receptive to any intelligent argument you wish to make; exactly what “personal” sacrifice could any American make that would enhance the lives of our noble servicemen. Sacrifice that does not translate directly to a better life for our servicemen is pointless and unworthy of you.

“As to “reinstating the draft” as the only way to win in Iraq, that is a false hypothetical. But I am receptive to an argument - tie “reinstating the draft” to an inevitable victory in Iraq, and you may be able to persuade me.”

I assume the silence is not accident or oversight on your part.

By RCH

August 6, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

Jackie

The GA photo ID law is no more than a modern poll tax. Last I remember, there are no facilities in the city of Atlanta to obtain your driver’s license. The citizens are required to take Marta to DeKalb County to get their driver’s license.

You are misinformed. It does not have to be a drivers license and if you are unable to travel to get the appropriate documentation, the State of Georgia will come to you to assist you in obtaining proper I.D. It appears to me that they State wants you to vote.

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

jmblaw:that you continue to demand “sacrifice” does not make that a rational thought process. Are you talking about the goody packages that Mrs. jbmlaw puts together a few times each year – not really much sacrifice, other than the time. Only leftists demand pointless sacrifice in support of larger principles; that is not a conservative value or thought-process.

Thank GOD you “rightists and conservatives” weren’t around during WWII, we would’ve lost the war with that type of mindset.

Again, you skirt the issue jbmlaw..you must really be a lawyer; I ask you again, “How many personal sacrifices are you willing to concede? You speak of the government sacrifices, what about the personal ones? Again, I ask, what are YOU willing to sacrifice in order to “Win the war on terror”? And how LONG are you committed to making that sacrifice? Would you support reinstating the draft if that was the only way to “win the war on terror”?

You have yet to answer any of these questions.

“If Jesus Christ be God and died for me, then no sacrifice can be too great for me to make for Him.” C.T. Studd

“We must be prepared to make heroic sacrifices for the cause of peace that we make ungrudgingly for the cause of war. There is no task that is more important or closer to my heart.” Einstein

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public” Teddy Roosevelt

By deegee

August 6, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Beckham certainly looks natty in his expensive suits courtesy of MLS. No word on when he will actually don a fútbol outfit and earn his keep. Cuauhtemoc Blanco had another nice day. Viva México!

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/SPORT/football/08/05/america.beckham.reut/index.html

By Jackie

August 6, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

@RCH

It does not have to be a driver’s license, you are correct. It does have to be an “official” state issued photo-id. What other document is there for these folks. You would have to ask the question, why does GA think this is required? How many cases of voter fraud has it documented in the last 50 years? Did we require the Iraqis’ to obtain photo-id to vote, or, did they just use their “purple fingers?” This method of voter identification is called “couching” and is illegal, based on the Voting Rights Act. I do believe voter couching is at the center of the US Attorney firings and Karl Rove.
I would ask you, is it voter fraud we should be concerned with when the majority of those soldiers voting absentee during the last election were denied their rights to vote when the ballots were thrown out?

By Van

August 6, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

I remember your kind back in 1971. I remember how the left supported the troops back then.

We made plenty of sacrifices back then. Besides living on meager pay, we were shunned by the general population and treated as a minority in most cities.

Because of the hair cut I wore, it was sometimes difficult to get service in places where adult beverages were sold.

In civilian clothing it was a little better, not much, but a little better.

Anyway, you have heard it before, it isn’t much different today than it was 40 years ago, the left still hates the military and everything it stands for.

Lefties like you are not that bad, back then there wasn’t many lefties that enlisted in the service, today they do take their place and stand up to serve.

I guess I will never understand someone that will not support the troops and by extension the Country and its leaders.

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

jmblaw: Either you are a fool or you think I’m one.

exactly what “personal” sacrifice could any American make that would enhance the lives of our noble servicemen.

Try sacrificing some of your blog time for one. Why not join the USO, OR volunteer at the USO in order to show your support? Soldiers need more than yellow ribbons on your gas guzzling car to show that you care.

Try sacrificing some of your vacation by going to Walter Reed and helping out the families who are there for fallen.

How about sacrificing some of your knowledge to help military families who need legal advice? My firm does that, I thought of the idea.

How about sacrificing one night a week by starting a support program for military families at your church?

These are all the LITTLE things that you can do that won’t cost you anything — you say you “Support the War” well start doing and stop talking/blogging; talk is cheap. The above are little things that you can do, yet you are too supercilious, vain, egotistical and arrogant to do them.

Sacrifice that does not translate directly to a better life for our servicemen is pointless and unworthy of you

You’d rather sacrifice LIVES than one minute of your time. You’d rather sacrifice America’s Future; the one dollar of your wealth. You’d rather sacrifice someone else’s Child’s Blood for oil.

You’re such a great american jbmlaw — people like you, Dusty, Dumbya, et al. and the Chineese Government are quickly turning America into another Third World Country. Congratulations.

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

Van: Three things:

A. I’m a military wife — I know more about sacrifice than probably a non military wife does.

B. Even though I have NEVER agreed with this war, I am willing to make sacrifices in my personal AND professional life for the troops. You agree with the war; Can you say the same thing?

C. I wasn’t even BORN in 1971. Don’t blame me for the past.

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Forty six of those minutes equals one billable hour. Those are what I live for.

By jm

August 6, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

A simple solution to this voter id nonsense. Provide free identification to all Georgia residents, whether that be a driver’s license or a state id card.

By Jackie

August 6, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

@Debbie

Back in 1971, the military was not hated, it was the policies employed by our government to use the military to advance those policies. You hear those “urban legends” about soldiers being spat upon when returning for the “war” and being called “baby killers.” Any military person that was in that conflict and who will be honest will not confirm those lies. As for getting service in places where adult beverages were served, the drinking age during that era was usually 21 years of age and the average age of most of the draftees was 19.
It is strange that lefties were accused of not supporting the military, but, if you look at those who were part of the military 40 years ago, be they enlistees of draftees, they served their country with honor. The argument being used is worn and trite; you don’t support the troops and by extension don’t support the country and it’s leaders. Heard any other jokes lately?

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

Forty six of those minutes equals one billable hour. Those are what I live for.

How very “repugnantlican” of you to say that. I didn’t expect less.

BTW you still have not answered my question: “How many personal sacrifices are you willing to concede? You speak of the government sacrifices, what about the personal ones? Again, I ask, what are YOU willing to sacrifice in order to “Win the war on terror”? And how LONG are you committed to making that sacrifice? Would you support reinstating the draft if that was the only way to “win the war on terror”?

By RCH

August 6, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

jm A simple solution to this voter id nonsense. Provide free identification to all Georgia residents, whether that be a driver’s license or a state id card.

They already do to people of no other means. And still you hear howls about disenfranchisement and poll tax. Again, what are they( opponents) trying to protect?

By Curious Observer

August 6, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

So a “personal” sacrifice is having a son serve in the military—and as a young officer, no less. What I want to know is what was jbmlaw, the great patriot, doing while I was getting my butt kicked at Parris Island or dodging bullets in Vietnam? Was he making the great “personal sacrifice” of going to law school so that he could become one of the privileged?

It’s people like jbmlaw and Dusty (yes, Dusty, there are women’s sections of the armed services) for whom I hold the most contempt. They support war, but then point to the military service of someone else as evidence of their sacrifice. Of course, TFTT couldn’t meet the standards of either the American or the England military. Quite aside from his sexual ambivalence, his paranoia and other mental problems would exclude him from military service.

At the very least, RCH could have served in the military, instead of pointing to his deceased father as a “personal” sacrifice. But the neocons have no shame. They don’t mind seeing fellow Americans returned from overseas in military caskets. Check that—they want the spectacle hidden from their view by imposition of censorship on any pictures showing those coffins being unloaded in Delaware. Too unpleasant, you know.

By JK

August 6, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

“Anyway, you have heard it before, it isn’t much different today than it was 40 years ago, the left still hates the military and everything it stands for.”

Van, thank you for your service all those years ago. I’m sorry you feel the need to hang on to this perception — maybe it makes you feel better in some twisted way, I don’t know. But it simply isn’t true. As one of those “lefites” you despise upon opening your eyes in the morning, and all day, and at night when the crickets chirp, and blame for anything and everything that itches your behind, I can say I don’t hate the military, and have myself loved soldiers, (familial and otherwise), and think their bosses should do a much better job of taking care of them both during and after their deployments. And among my many “leftie” friends are former military like you. None that I know hate the military or what they stand for, and I know many. So…. I wish for your own peace of mind, you’d give it up. It ain’t true, buddy. Just ain’t.

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Jackie: Oh. Thanks for the brief history. My father, two uncles, and my godfather were in VietNam; yet they never want to talk about it. I’ve tried asking questions, but they usually clam up and become a little surley when questioned. I would’ve loved, however, to get their perspective since they’d actually been there.

I recently went to the POW war museum in Pensacola, Florida — I gained a new respect for servicemembers.

By jm

August 6, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

rch - I said everybody, no means test required. Eliminate any and all fees associated with getting a drivers license or state id card for everyone. Also, automatically register that person to vote when the id is issued.

By RCH

August 6, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

Curious Observer

At the very least, RCH could have served in the military, instead of pointing to his deceased father as a “personal” sacrifice.

This was never meant as a personel sacrafice but as a point of reference. I have seen funerals for those that have fallen and the tears are real. I was to young to serve in the Vietnam war and am probably to old to serve in this one. However, since the war on terror will but fought on our shores I guess I will have no choice.

Debbiedoright Not to blow my own horn, twice a month my mother and I serve fresh baked cookies and coffee to the new recruits at Sunday services at Fort Benning. It may not seem like much but it is greatly appreciated by them. It is nowhere near the sacrifices made by our soldiers.

By Jackie

August 6, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

@Debbie

I was there, 1st Cav Div ‘68 thru ‘69. Let me say to you, running from the RPG’s and Kalatniskov’s (sic) was no fun. So, when you hear those that try to speak for those of us who have been there, don’t believe them; they do not know of what they speak. Prevaricators, ALL!!!!

By Peter

August 6, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

Jim Wooten……. Not for a minute tell me that the Current President has any control over spending……

Please tell me why we are paying dead farmers millions of dollars, and today we find out the pentagon cannot account for 190,000 rifles and pistols for Iraq.

We also know the US Accounting office has no idea what has happened to Billions of dollars that were to be spent in Iraq as well……

The current administration has wasted Billions of dollars, and I would bet it has ended up in the hands of the buddies of those in power.

When are you going to talk about the waste from the current administration?

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

Dear Jackie @ 1:11, my friend Vic Yates was spat upon at the airport, on his return to the US during Vietnam. It was not conservatives who did the spitting. I suppose “urban legend” depends on whose eye is spat in.

Dear Debbie @ 1:02, nothing you cite is a sacrifice. I wrote wills and POAs for each member of my son’s ROTC unit, pro bono. That was no sacrifice. Nor is the free advice I dispense, through him, on his buddies’ inquiries. Nor are the meals I buy them when we see them. Nor when we help – free - veterans trying to get some help from government employees; often they just need an idea how to frame the argument, to get the appropriate attention. These are things conservatives just do. Leftists do that only for recognition, but conservatives don’t need that motivation, nor do we wear our acts as a crown on blogs.

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

RCH: Debbiedoright Not to blow my own horn, twice a month my mother and I serve fresh baked cookies and coffee to the new recruits at Sunday services at Fort Benning. It may not seem like much but it is greatly appreciated by them

At least you’re doing SOMETHING!! Far more than just blogging on a blog or wearing a yellow ribbon. In fact, you’re doing much more than Dusty, jbmlaw, etc. are doing.

Jackie: I know that the war may still have painful memories for you, (my mother says that my father still has nightmares sometimes), I appreciate your service and your sacrifice.

By RCH

August 6, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

Curious Observe

With all respect I do thank you for your service. If we ever meet the first round is on me.

Try telling a little boy that his father can’t be there for little little league, spelling championship, cub scouts, Christmas, etc……… I know that’s not much compared to the jungles of Vietnam, and the cold of Korea that you endured, but it seemed just as hard to that 8 year old (me) and his family.

By Dusty

August 6, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

You can get as angry as you think you should to show righteous indignation, but it won’t work. You are no more “sacrificing” than jbmlaw and other families are.

Are you not active in a protest group that does NOT support this war? Did you go to Walter Reed because you wanted to visit a patient or because you wanted to “see everything that is wrong”?

As to supporting military families, I shake the hand of the father of two in Iraq every week and tell him I support his sons.(You claim to be shaking the hands of wives of servicemen.) I cannot go to Walter Reed nor do I think they need me there.

I am quite willing to support this war in any way that I can and whatever the government requests. My support is undeniable.

If you think you can be the personal judge of everyone’s private efforts, please tell me who gave you the authority. Why do you decide that everyone who disagrees with you is”on crack” or some other insinuation?

Once again, I support your husband Dudley and his comrades. I am sorry you have turned against the war in which he fights. You may call me anything you wish but I will continue to support the efforts of this country at this time.

By Translation:

August 6, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

“When I do something nice, it is because I am a principled, conservative hero. When you do something nice, it’s because you’re a godless, soulless, leftist wanting attention to further your obvious socialist agenda.”

By Analchord

August 6, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

We aint nevah gonna git outta Iraq.

Anyone see 60 minutes piece on the Kurds last nite?

Fox is planning a reality show based on the Ice Capades!!!!

Run for your lives.

what could be worse? How about a reality show based on Synchronized Swimming?

Give me four more unjust wars instead!!

Does Osama have a man sized safe in his cave? What man sized thing would osama have in his cave? If cheney has a safe, then osama would have a __?

By Jackie

August 6, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

@jbmlaw

If your friend was spat upon when he returned from VietNam, did he respond in kind, or, did he escalate the situation? Please check with your “fried.” Tell us what year and what airport this event occurred. I do not believe a word you are saying!!!!!!

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Dear Curious @ 1:26, I have previously expressed appreciation for your service. Nevertheless, your argument is moronic. The opposite of peace is not war, it is freedom. War and freedom are joined at the hip, because there are always leftists who would steal our lives, our freedom, and our property, for their own uses. The Islamists don’t resent you for driving a late model Oldsmobile – they resent your freedom. They do not attack New York City because they think it is populated by people of the Jewish faith; NYC is the symbol of free America to the rest of the world. This is a war to enslave the free; unless you aspire to be a slave, you need to wake up.

By Translation2

August 6, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

“You may call me anything you wish but I will continue to support the efforts of this country at this time.”

Translation: Unlike the godless 75 percent of my fellow Americans, I support this criminal administration in its destruction of the U.S.

By getalife

August 6, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

gop creep show

I like it but the little ole lady wingnuts will not.

BTW, Rudy’s daughter is for Obama.

Bwa.

By time for the truth

August 6, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

poor old supercilious peeping tom its chickensh!t misological hate of its conservative intellectual betters is making this putrid dried up queer even more bilious than usual.

The British Army - still the world’s best army (though NOT biggest) is all volunteer. National Service (compulsory military service) in the UK ended while I was gently learning to appreciate The Beatles during my younger years in prep school in leafy suburban Surrey and not long before Tottenham completed their historic double.

seeing the greasy illegal leech heebeedeegee’s continuing irrational Beckham hate as always is enormously amusing. This pathetic snivelling sorry excuse for a trainee taco waitress has NO idea about football. STICK TO PICKING LETTUCES heebeedeegee … Its actually a team strip or football strip honeykins … not an “outfit”. And Becks purchased all his posh (geddittt??) suits before flying out to grasping illegal leech infested land in Kalifornia. Becks got injured in an England game back in June. But keep your putrid envious hate coming - its fooking hilarious seeing it everyday!!!

By Jackie

August 6, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

@Debbie

I do not have the nightmares and respond to loud noises as I used to, thanks.

I am glad that you have given so much of your time to help your husband in his situation. I am glad that you do not let these neo-cons sway you into believing they are patriotic and supportive of the Constitution. They are miscreants!!!!!

By getalife

August 6, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

My support is undeniable

Until there is a Dem President, right dusty?

Wag the dog?

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

OK Jackie, I’m busted. There is no Vic Yates. No legal advice I give is free. (though don’t tell anyone, because I’m also not really a lawyer) And I never pick up the check for anybody. In other words, I’m pretty much what I’ve been described by one person here as, a jumbo bowel movement.

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

At risk of noting the obvious, I did not post the note @ 1:09, that was our id thief. Anyone who knows me knows that the first minute is a billable hour.

Dear Jackie @ 1:56, no, he was shocked, he was carrying his bags, I think it was his first trip back, in 1967. I have no reason to doubt Vic’s story – he recited it to me many times. I have not seen Vic for 15 years now. You may be amused, he was a military pensioner and a Clinton supporter in 1992, despite the “loathing” comment. I was horrified that someone could go through what he went through and still accept the idea of an anti-military commander in chief. I still think it was something like battered-woman syndrome.

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

I wrote wills and POAs for each member of my son’s ROTC unit, pro bono. That was no sacrifice.

Again, jbmlaw; you keep proving that anyone can get a law degree, even someone with A.D. D. — My question to you was: “How many personal sacrifices are you willing to concede in order to win the “war on terror”? You speak of the government sacrifices, what about the personal ones? What are YOU willing to sacrifice in order to “Win the war on terror”? And how LONG are you committed to making that sacrifice? Would you support reinstating the draft if that was the only way to “win the war on terror”?

My question inferred your willingness to make sacrifices for Iraq and Afghanistan. You stated earlier, (this is copied and pasted so this will be your very own words): I also think we need to stay until the job is done (even if that is 50 years from now).

I asked you the question, concerning Iraq and Afghanistan, that if you are willing to commit other people’s lives in Iraq for up to 50 years; what were you in turn willing to sacrifice in order to win the WAR ON TERROR? I gave examples of the things that you can do for the troops who are coming back from Afghanistan and Iraq; you gave me some spiel about your son’s ROTC class. Were they, your son’s ROTC class, in Iraq or Afghanistan, or in college? If they were in college,than you are correct, what you did was NO SACRIFICE.

Leftists do that only for recognition, but conservatives don’t need that motivation, nor do we wear our acts as a crown on blogs.

Sacrificing your life for your country SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED; not hidden away behind a wall of shame when they bring your dead body back in a box. Conservatives don’t need motivation? HA!! Maybe they have better motivators when it’s big business, teenaged boys, prostitutes, and financial gain.

You are correct jbmlaw; you have made NO SACRIFICES; yet you want a war, where American lives are sacrificied every day to go on into infinity; so long as it means that you won’t be inconvenienced.

So much for “Compassionate Conservatives”; it’s as much of an oxymoron as “Fiscal Conservative”.

By idthief

August 6, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Hey Jumbo, if you were really a lawyer you would know your screen name cannot be stolen in that it is not your property. Bwaaa!

By kkk

August 6, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

I am not running as a mormon I thought you GOPs like to put your religion on your foreheads.

Whats up with this Mormon,not-so mormon,pro-choice,now pro-life FLIPPER??

Does he want to run as former governor of Massachusets?hmmmmm……dont know. Maybe another rightwinger like Jim can ask the question

By Analchord

August 6, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

When we were reflagging ships in the Persian Gulf in the Reagan Era, an Iraqi Air Force pilot fired an exocet missile and hit one of our destroyers. Saddam immediately assured Reagan that it was a rogue pilot, and pledged his support of our efforts in the gulf, and renewed his freindship with us.

What ever happened to that rogue pilot. Was he Shia, or Sunni? Reagan did nothing. No wonder Saddam later invaded Iraq, he knew he was dealing with Wusses in the GOP.

We need Hillary to curb these adventurous impulses by the dictators in the middle east.

Vote Hillary in ‘08. We’ve got a world to save, and a country to convince.

By getalife

August 6, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

ambulance chaser,

Nobody spit on the troops that is a lie but if you are lawyer you get lied to all the time.

That is why you love the gop.

Geez.

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Dusty: Are you not active in a protest group that does NOT support this war?

Yes. And proud of it.

Did you go to Walter Reed because you wanted to visit a patient or because you wanted to “see everything that is wrong”?

Only a godless, non sympathetic, psychotic repuglican would say something like that. Why don’t you go Dusty on my next trip, (during the Thanksgiving holidays), and see for yourself?

As to supporting military families, I shake the hand of the father of two in Iraq every week and tell him I support his sons.

Whoooopeee!!! That’s some great support you’re doing there Dusty! Keep on the good work!!! NOT.

(You claim to be shaking the hands of wives of servicemen.)

No Dusty, i HOLD their hands and pray with them while their husbands and/or wives are serving in Afghan and/or Iraq.

I cannot go to Walter Reed nor do I think they need me there.

BushSh#t!! You could go if you wanted to; there’s nothing stopping you except your apathy towards others’ suffering.

I am quite willing to support this war in any way that I can and whatever the government requests. My support is undeniable.

The government must “request” your support before you can give it? What kinda piece of sh#t comment is that?

If you think you can be the personal judge of everyone’s private efforts, please tell me who gave you the authority.

Apparently I must wait on the government before I can do anything to help. Good to know, I’ll keep that in mind if I ever see someone bleeding from a car accident laying on the road in pain. I’ll just tell them , “Hey, you, crashed up guy, I can’t help you because the government didn’t tell me to”. I’m sure that’ll make the victim feel so much better.

Why do you decide that everyone who disagrees with you is”on crack” or some other insinuation?

You are either on crack, or are taking strong hallucinogens. Either way you’re wigged out and not making much sense.

Once again, I support your husband Dudley and his comrades. I am sorry you have turned against the war in which he fights. You may call me anything you wish but I will continue to support the efforts of this country at this time.

Well Dusty, with support like yours, who needs the USO? All we need is a bunch of people wearing yellow ribbons, blogging on a blog. That’ll keep the morale of the troops up.

By RCH

August 6, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Debbiedoright

Suggestion. After your loved one is in Afghanistan for a couple of weeks, make a list of things he would like and requires. All of us (yes,even you getalife) will make those items available to him in a large care package. We can meet anywhere you would like . I will buy the first round for those of drinking age. ( getalife?)LOL

By Analchord

August 6, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Debbie, dusty wins that last exchange because you went a little long in the tooth in the rebuttal. You’re falling for the oldest trick in the book, where you let the opponent set the talking points.

dusty is just a bored housewife getting grins out of making people go a little Mount St. Helens on a blog. Google “troll”.

Everyone falls for it sometime, so dont feel bad.

Trolls R people 2.

By Liberal Drive-by

August 6, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Ahhhhhh, another black crime rant from the idiot TFTT. Stop Effing around and just say it Doofus; I HATE ALL NEGROS!! We’ll get the point. Don’t try to sanitize it either by saying “I only hate the hippity-hop thugs who have poisoned my daughter’s mind and stole my wife from me.” Enough already. Move to Maine if don’t want to hear/see/live around black people. There ain’t none of us up there. Better yet, move back to England with its smelly unshaven beasts you call women.

By Realist

August 6, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

Liberal,

Better yet, move back to England with its smelly unshaven beasts you call women. You forgot toothless.

By They Shoot Liberals Don't They?

August 6, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

Liberal Drive-Through

Everybody hates the Negro…nobody wuvs me anymore

bwahahahahahaha

Idiot. Geez.

By time for the truth

August 6, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

jbm

congratulations at once yet again very predicktably and quite effortlessly eliciting little but the trademark visceral anti-American/anti-conservative hate and dissembling from the sadly still resident cut and run pinkos. your occasionally (very understandably fractious) patience with these vermin is much greater than mine. Its impossible to even slightly open what little passes for their minds - hence its like endlessly arguing about addiction with a sullen, petulant defensive addict who has NOT yet reached rock bottom and discovered the will to change.

the nauseatingly hypocritical crackpipe debbie gets all uppity and abusive at virtually anyone on here who dares to confront it factually … its hysterical drivel just puked up at Dusty just shows how sick and twisted crackpipe is.

who knows if crackpipe is lying about having a hubbie - let alone having one in the military? one simply cannot say for sure!! typical conservative politeness dictates that that should be politely assumed … leftist hatepigs on the disgusting daily kos site etc never ever make such reasonable assumptions about their opponents.

note that all getaturd does is emptily and abusively assert its disagreement. getaturd has all the intellectual gravitas of a spineless defanged spitting autistic cobra with ADD.

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

RCH: Thanks. Dudley, (as in Dudley Do Right), has been in Afghanistan for the past few months. I currently don’t know his exact whereabouts, but I do “speak” with him via email at least once a month. So far so good.

By You're repeating yourself

August 6, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

“Its impossible to even slightly open what little passes for their minds - hence its like endlessly arguing about addiction with a sullen, petulant defensive addict who has NOT yet reached rock bottom and discovered the will to change.”

You’ve written that before. And, your dry? drunkeness is showing. Maybe you type this drivel while wasted. That would explain a lot.

By time for the truth

August 6, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

@ liberaldickhead

cheers for that hilarious racist hissyfit bubbaturd!!

are U a snout still in the trough Katrina refugee or just a local vicious ebonics spoutin’ thug?

I merely loathe black criminal predators and their sullen hippety hop gangsta lovin, ebonics spoutin’ heroes.

Its blacks who are preyed on most by black predators. Yet the media invariably says bugger all about it … other than occasional shock at some really nasty vicious black crime. Tell us - where are the SAME NUMBER - OR MORE - of white criminals and thugs in the NFL/NBA/NHL/MLB bubbaturd? How come even poor white hoods have far lower levels of murder/violent crime/drive bys etc. Its because the vile black hippety hop kulture enables it or at least ignores it. And the self serving grasping black racist hustlers - USUALLY MICKY MOUSE so called REVERENDS prefer to bleat and whine about old flags and other imagined or long gone grievances and blame whitey or the man than focus on the endemic black culture of criminality … and a whopping 70% black b astard rate!!

I naturally assume your own semi-literate, always on her knees mammy was some huge lardarsed obese fat wh ore who had nine thuggish always in jail kids with eleven different pappy’s … in the same housing project. Certainly a staggering number of black wimmin continuously fit into this decades old pattern. NO SHAME at leeching off the public purse ….

lying, twisted racist black scum like U bubbaturd almost make me sick ,.. but happily prove I am right in my well chosen, witty. pithy commentary!!

time to GFY dickhead!!

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Twisted Time Straight Jacket: Below is your theme song. It is so befitting of you; It’s called A-s-s-h-o-l-e. Enjoy.

http://www.killsometime.com/animations/animation.asp?ID=123

Oops and here’s a recent photo of you and some girl you paid to pose with you on the beach:

http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/Picture.asp?ID=595

PS: I always knew you were balless.

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

At risk of noting the obvious, I did not post the note @ 2:13, that was our id thief. Just a typical leftist moron.

Dear Debbie @ 2:14, you have already proven that nothing any conservative does qualifies as sacrifice in DebbieWorld, and certainly I reject your fidelity to the necessity of sacrifice in the first place. I understand your desire to celebrate the deaths of our fallen heroes by making a public spectacle of their return, and I fully understand why you would choose to not allow a family any semblance of respect or private grief – that would be contrary to leftism. But of course you support the troops.

As a personal sacrifice, I would withhold harsh commentary about either necessity or quality of work performed by our Iraq mission. Of course that sounds too great to a leftist, but I think no sacrifice is too great. What do you say, are you on for that?

By Georgia Spreads Disease Again

August 6, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

The hoof and mouth outbreak in England has been traced back to a Duluth GA firm - do you think a certain truthy English(wo)man was on the receiving end of some bull semen and then spread its cheeks back in the homeland for some poor unsuspecting barnyard animals?

Pretty likely I’d say wut wut!

By time for the truth

August 6, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

jolly well done indeed crackpipe debbieturd … happily I never bother to open your blackracistbitch links… but cheers for thinking of me YET again!!

here’s a chance folks to have endless fun repeatedly ‘killing’ two lardarsed scabies ridden sluttish slappers with the same ‘gun’ - the vile illegal mexican type anglo hating leech heebeedeegee and the whoralicious rubber lips crackpipe debbieturd:

http://nerdnirvana.org/g4m3s/borderpatrol.htm

By RCH

August 6, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

Debbiedoright

That was cruel. Yikes!

By Jackie

August 6, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

@jbmlaw

Again, you put forth these arguments that have no basis in fact; you can not substantiate the vitriol that you spout and your repeating of this scurrilous misstatement is reprehensible. You, sir, are lower than whale gravy!

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

Dear jbmlaw: You are an awful lawyer. You can’t even make up a good “falsehood”. That’s one of the first things they teach you in law school, how to lie!!! Lie —> Liar —> Lawyer!! Geesh!!

Perhaps, when you were in law school, if you would’ve spent more time studying you could’ve made a decent go of it, but alas; all those years of school gone to waste. Case in point:

I understand your desire to celebrate the deaths of our fallen heroes by making a public spectacle of their return, and I fully understand why you would choose to not allow a family any semblance of respect or private grief

I guess all the monuments to the dead, VietNam Veterans memorial, WWII Memorial, Korean War Veterans Memorial, MEMORIAL DAY, etc.; are just “leftist propaganda tools”. Used only to enflame griefing families.

I reject your fidelity to the necessity of sacrifice in the first place.

Of COURSE you do…. you’re repuglican sleazy lawyer!!! You and Scooter are two of a kind! (He rejects the “sacrifice” of telling the truth when questioned too).

Best regards, jbmlaw; hopefully an ambulance will roll by in the next few minutes and you can try chasing down a new customer.

By Jackie

August 6, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

@jbmlaw,

I failed to notice part of your expansive lies. You stated:

Dear Jackie @ 1:56, no, he was shocked, he was carrying his bags, I think it was his first trip back,

If you are saying that your friend was allowed to come back during his tour is a flat lie,

Now, use your eloquent prose to squirm out of that lie!!!!!

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Twisted Straight Jacket:

FYEO:

http://www.killsometime.com/animations/animation.asp?ID=52

Oh and FUTT, enjoy!!!

By Jackie

August 6, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

For those 190,000 weapons that were given to the Iraqs and are now unaccounted for, the person in charge of security is now the commander in Iraq, Gen. Petraeus. Wonder what kind of report he will give next month?

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this

Jackie: Of course it’s gonna be a glowing, uplifting, and full of bushsh#t!!

All the other retired generals that were approched declined the job. Patraeus agreed and Bush accepted because, like always, he needed a “yes” man in the position. So to expect the truth from him; would be highly unlikely.

By RCH

August 6, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

Debbie and Jackie

All parties concerned agreed that Gen.Pataeus was the right man for the job, saying that he would call it like he saw it. He was endorced by the leadership of the Democratic party. Now that there may be good news from Iraq, everyone is shifting gears? (The Hillary dance)

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Very interesting……

Right now, every state except Nebraska and Maine awards all of its electoral votes to the popular-vote winner in that state. So in mammoth California, John Kerry beat George W. Bush and won all 55 electoral votes, more than one fifth of the 270 necessary for election.

Instead of laboring in vain to turn California Red, a clever lawyer for the state Republican Party thought of a gimmicky shortcut. Thomas Hiltachk, who specializes in ballot referenda that try to fool people in the titles and fine print, is sponsoring a ballot initiative for the June 3, 2008, California primary (which now falls four months after the state’s presidential primary). The Presidential Election Reform Act would award the state’s electoral votes based on who wins each congressional district. Had this idea been in effect in 2004, Bush would have won 22 electoral votes from California, about the same number awarded the winners of states like Illinois or Pennsylvania. In practical terms, adopting the initiative would mean that the Democratic candidate would likely have to win both Ohio and Florida in 2008 (instead of one or the other) to be elected.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20121791/site/newsweek/

By getalife

August 6, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

“No amount of troops and no amount of time will make a difference (in Iraq).” — Adm. Michael Mullen, Bush’s nominee for chairman of the Joint Chiefs

Duh.

By Jackie

August 6, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

@RCH

Did you believe that Petraeus was going to say anything other than everything is going well. Think about what the surge was supposed to accomplish. Was it about bringing stability to the country so that the political apparatus could work correctly

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

RCH: Everyone knows that Bush only hires “yes” men. (See Gonzalez, Rumsfeld, and Rice as a reference).

Also, history, has shown the error in trying to subjugate the middle east to western rule. (See Britian, Christian Crusades, etc).

By getalife

August 6, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

Biden’s plan will work

The Sunnis left the government and instead of arming them, push them for their own state.

Then get the hell out of that hell hole.

By BS Aplenty

August 6, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoneRight

9:34 9:50 10:02 10:14 10:17 10:30 10:56 11:28 11:54 12:17 12:44 1:02 1:08 1:19 1:31 1:54 2:14 2:32 3:00 3:30 3:55 4:03 4:12 4:21 4:29, and counting.

Good lord, woman, when do you have time to inhale and take a dump. (Your husband’s not in Afghanistan, he just left for a safer haven abroad)

By DebbieDoRight

August 6, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

BSAplenty: Again, I am so struck at how appropriate your blog name is!!! Kudos on such accuracy in naming!!!

By getalife

August 6, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

“Flashback to Aug. 6, 2001: A day of infamy:

Six years ago today, President Bush received a classified intelligence briefing that warned bin Laden was determined to strike inside the U.S. Bush was described as being “carefree” on the day he received the briefing at his Crawford ranch in Aug. 2001.”

Where the hell is OBL?

Geez.

By Patreaus

August 6, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Yassuh, Massah George,

We’s doin’ GOOD in Iraq. Dat insurgance is DOIN’ GOOD, Sir. Can I get mah penshon, now?

By time for the truth

August 6, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

see how sick these eco whackos are … now its worse for the planet to walk to the shops than going by car!!! DUH!!!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article2195538.ece

I LOVE MY CARBON FOOTPRINT

Everyday I gleefully try to find ways to massively increase it!!!

By jbmlaw tells the truth

August 6, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

How I spent my billable hours…On Thinking Right, of course. Thanks, Clients!

By Analchord

August 6, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

There’s four or five bloggers who blog 90% of the comments here. It’s a chatroom for idles.

There’s no audience either.

‘muff said.

By RCH

August 6, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

Debbie and Jackie

The Gen. was unanimously confirmed by the House and Senate, including the leadership of the Democratic party. and yes even Barrack and Hillary.

You are now putting yourself in a no win situation. A win in Iraq spells a defeat for the Democrats and certain blogger on this website.

By AmVet

August 6, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

Among 10th District Congressman Paul Broun’s first votes is one in support of medical marijuana, which he later defended…The amendment he voted on would prohibit the feds from attempting to stop state medical marijuana programs, said Broun. Rocky start here. Better not move the fine china yet.

Goodness gracious!

What is the Republican Party coming to?

Their senses?

Imagine the nerve of this medical doctor who might just believe that using a tremendously effective tool in alleviating the agony and suffering of cancer patients etc. is actually more important and humane than mindless prohibition based on reactionary stereotypes!

How can he possibly think that instead of using the plethora of mainly useless or ineffective pharmaceuticals that cause awful side effects currently being used, to use a natural substance that, hands down, more effectively alleviates pain, could be a good idea?

Who is this nut - a compassionate conservative? A libertarian in Republican clothes?

No wonder Wooten has no use for him.

BTW, did they ever stop forcing the young Republicans at UGA to watch “Reefer Madness”?

Just kidding, just kidding.

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

Dear Jackie @ 3:49, thank you, as you are one who cannot go one day without spewing some anti-Jewish epithets, I take criticism from you as I would from Goebbels himself.

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

Dear Jackie @ 4:00, I understood Vic had several tours in Germany thereafter. I do not know if his wife died there or after they returned from Germany. Not that a national socialist would care.

By Jackie

August 6, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

@jbmlaw

I spoke to previously about your trying to use those words that you think will intimidate me. Again, your spouting off about the word neo-con being anti-Jewish, DOES NOT WORK!!!! You remind me of one who is in a one-ring circus that has a hobbled pony, the elephant has diarrhea and you lost the battery to the nose of your suit.

By AmVet

August 6, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this

Democrats and their media enablers in a snit over Photo ID are as out-of-sync with mainstream Georgia as they are with mainstream America on surrender in Iraq.

How can one human being be so insightful, IMHO, in the first part of a sentence and then be so utterly and willfully sophomoric in the second half?!!

And it is a very short sentence!

My take on the photo ID is that it is a Republican plan to fix something that isn’t broke, all in the name of being defenders of democracy, of course.

So BFD. Get a frikkin ID and then go vote. Or don’t and don’t. Or get it and b*** about how unfair it is.

Maybe I’m missing something here, but what in the name of sam hell is the big deal about showing an ID before getting a ballot?

On to Mr. Wooten’s proclivity for sticking his foot in his mouth.

Some earlier today have already noted very well the intentionally horrible choice of words (not to mention the inherent fallacy of his assertion that MOST Americans are not now opposed to this occupation!) and the Republican spin of Mr. Wooten’s self-righteous claim of liberal surrender.

As a respected(?) journalist he knows that intentionally using words incorrectly is a convenient way to dumb down the discussion. Which may add to his popularity among the partisans, but does yet another great disservice to the integrity of his profession and the nation at large.

As a powerful voice in the community, he owes it to us to stop being a hack and to at least try and speak intelligently on matters of such import.

And using the term surrender is anything but intelligent.

Shame on him.

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

Dear Jackie @ 5:16, I am well aware that chiding a national socialist about using anti-Jewish epithets is unlikely to produce a change. It is still the right thing to do.

By jbmlaw

August 6, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this

Dear AmVet @ 5:48, while we are addressing journalistic standards, what can we do about reporters who cite Global Warming as the greatest threat to mankind since Y2K?

By Analchord

August 6, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this

What exactly would happen if Americans surrendered in Iraq? What would the criteria for Victory in Iraq be?

What is meant by victory in Iraq for either side? (trick question)

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq? (no mission has ever been enunciated by the administration)

What is the mission of the rebel insurgency? The rogue shia militia? The kurds?

Mission statements please.

You have no idea do you?

You all just comment in circles like chatroom turds in a counter clockwise swirl of opinion signifying nothing except that you’re the elite ignorami.

Jiggling the handle here.

‘muff said.

By Analchord

August 6, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

What is the difference between rogue shia militia and shia militia?

Is Sadr considered rogue shia militia or shia militia?

Which shia militia backs the shia majority parliament elected in Iraq?

By AmVet

August 6, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

Excellent red herring, counselor! But then if I was supporting this administration’s occupation, I too would be changing the topic!

Global warming is apparently a reality. Man’s role in it is debatable but unquestionably, IMHO, he has some role in it.

It is just common sense that we do. Go take a nice long drink out of the Chattahoochee if you think man’s march to the future doesn’t impact this planet in very negative ways.

I am not yet completely convinced of any impending doom but the signs are bad. Very bad.

And I would rather err on the side of caution, intellect and restraint than on the side endorsed by the pollution lovers and irresponsible religious science haters.

And besides Bush’s quagmire in Iraq gives the right a chance to try and be wrong about something else more tangible.