Thinking Right

By Mid-South Philosopher

July 4, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim

Happy Fourth of July to all!

My feelings about Scooter’s sentence computation and President Bush’s lack of courage in issuing the pardon now were inculcated in my responses to yesterday’s column.

I only wish now that Georgie would step up to the plate and pardon the Border Patrol agents Ramos and Campeon, two examples of real injustice!

Hades…if the Crawford Texas Blunder will feel better about it, he can fine them and put them on probation!

Do you think he will?!?

I am beginning to think that he, not his father, is the closet whimp!

By Redneck Convert

July 4, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

Well, it sure is great to be a American today. I feel so patriotic. But I learned that Joe Bill’s boy got a little snozzled yesterday and all patriotic and signed up for the army. That’s carrying things too far. You could wind up getting kilt. You can’t cheer the war on if you are dead. It’s a lot better for us rednecks to cheer from the sidelines. I hate learning about solders getting kilt, but long as I don’t know them, I don’t feel so bad.

Those Florida fans better not go by me with a Gator liscence plate. Us UGA fans are mostly rednecks, and we don’t take to that kind of thing very much. I would ram my beer truck right into the back of their car and let them feel how it is to boast about their team and their lucky 8 or 10 or 11 wins in a row over our good GA boys that just drink a little too much and get put in the pokey oncet in a while, like rednecks sometimes do. One of these days we will beat Florida.

I’m awful glad My President let poor Scooter Libby off. There is enough good Republicans in jail already. Some for making a little spare change from lobbyists and others for doing a Revrend Jim Bob Buice and taking a hankering to nekkid boys oncet in a while. Anyway, when we are not doing those things, we are in church praying hard for the war and the next election. You can go to church and get rid of alot of sins if alot of people see you there.

Anyway, after the big meal today me and the missus is going to see the fireworks. Us rednecks love fireworks and it’s nice that all the politicans put them off for us. I guess that GodHatesTrash guy is deported to England by this time, so good conservatives like me and Sister Dusty and tftt or whatever he calls hisself and Van and jbmlaw and RCH can have this blog all to ourself.

Happy 4th of July, everybody. But don’t do nothing foolish, like sign up for the army or make any real sacrifice for the war. Its a lot easier to be a patriot that way. And I’m glad you are sprung, Scooter. Way to sock it to the nosy libruls that want to keep investagating good conservatives.

By Claire

July 4, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

Guess who Cynthia Tucker is ranting about:

{{{{{{His defenders have probably already raised his $250,000 fine. Even if he loses his license to practice law, he has supporters who’ll find him a lush sinecure.}}}}}}

Is it Scooter Libby or Bill Clinton?

Do you AJC people have no shame, no modesty? Is this really subjects you want to broach, perjury and pardons?

Especially to preach a self righteous sermon like some hung over on Sunday morning Baptist?

Or do you think the liberals that read your paper are a bunch of dummies that have no memory?

Or are brainwashed?

The Ipsos Mori poll of 2,032 adults - interviewed between 14 and 20 June - found 56% believed scientists were still questioning climate change. There was a feeling the problem was exaggerated to make money, it found. The survey suggested that terrorism, graffiti, crime and dog mess were all of more concern than climate change.

How much longer will the AJC unabashedly live the lies?

By Dusty

July 4, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

Well, it looks like we are going to celebrate the fourth with one of those hangings. You know. Where you carry the kiddies and the big lunch basket and go early so you can sit up close.

First comes Mid South Philophony in his finest long black coat and silver sidearms (not loaded). He has been convicted of shooting off his lip indiscriminately at the president. In Texas and other fine Republican places, that is an unpardonable sin. He must pay for his blind and blistering attacks from the far left dark side of political justice. NO pardon!!!

Then comes Redneck Convert, a spy in our midst, an undercover agent also from the far left dark side. He has continually assaulted Southern charm and language, drinks beer instead of mint juleps, and has spread propaganda about the finest snake charmer at church. Such crimes cannot be condoned. NO pardon!

Well, if you know anybody else who needs straightening out, let me know. In the meantime, I’m cleaning the grill, “cutting the mustard”, and chopping onions. Have a good one!!

By Typical Georgia Redneck

July 4, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

Claire was my waitress at the Waffle House this morning. We got into a discussion about Bush. She said something that made a lot of sense to me, being a typical Georgia redneck.

“You know, my mama is a a drunk and a w-hore, but she’s still my mama. That’s how I feel about the president.”

By Liberal Bug Zapper

July 4, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Mainstream liberal media: “Libby was convicted in March, the highest-ranking White House official ordered to prison since the Iran-Contra affair roiled the Reagan administration in the 1980s.”

This is a misleading statement that makes the reader imagine that no high-ranking Presidential appointee, adviser, or member of the White House has been convicted of anything or sentenced to anything since Reagan’s era.

But, at least one past official’s name should be placed above that of Libby’s. Henry Cisneros was the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, appointed to that position by President Bill Clinton.

Cisneros, it should be remembered, was indicted in 1995 on 18 counts of conspiracy, false statements and obstruction of justice. Cisneros pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor count of lying to the FBI.

Now, I’d dare say that Libby, who only worked in the office of the Vice President, was a minnow in the pond in which Cisneros swam. Cisneros was the Secretary of HUD, a presidential cabinet member.

Naturally, on his way out of the White House in 2001, Clinton pardoned Cisneros. Yet, here we have the MSM constantly calling Libby the “highest White House official” convicted, completely ignoring the fate of a much, much higher official with Cisneros.

Of course, that this man was a member of Clinton’s cabinet pretty much explains why the MSM is conveniently forgetting the fact that Libby is a small fish in this conviction game compared to Cisneros. And, Cisneros was certainly a member of the White House having been a Clinton appointee. But perhaps the biggest irony plug about Libby is that he was Mark Rich’s former attorney. Surely everyone remembers who Marc Rich was, no? Si? Hypocrites.

The A list of Clinton pardons, as if history never existed with the pathetic liberal demokkkrats prior to January 21, 2000..

Need historical facts? Don’t look for them in the AJC.

By jm

July 4, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Leave it to W the incompetent to screw this up. Yes, Libby was guilty but he was just the fall guy who got caught in a D.C. rinse and spin cycle. Like Kenneth Starr before him, Patrick Fitzgerald was bound and determined to get something on somebody and would keep going until he found it. Something about absolute power’s (which a special prosecutor has) corrupting influence.

As for the Gator license plate, I thought the state of Georgia was willing to fleece any pigeon who will fork over the extra tag fee.

By time for the truth

July 4, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Happy Fourth of July to most regulars on here, even some of the less shrill lefty cut and run types.

If you weren’t born and bred here this day is in some respects pretty much meaningless as its simply not part of ones cultural DNA. Being English/British kind of makes this day even less of one for celebration as it was “us” - albeit a few centuries ago that “you” and everyone else over here at the time fought. This has become our most successful ex-colony and the language here has about 65% remained true to real English.

Every one here repeatedly parrots this bollocks about “freedom”, almost as if they are trying to convince themselves - the freedom and freedoms here are pretty decent - but are not essentially greater/better than a number of other western countries. Obviously each society evolves differently. The surface patriotism here is undeniably vastly greater and more obvious than virtually any other western country.

But patriotism is NEVER simply and glibly measured by the level of noise and (incessant) flag waving. True patriotism is surely much more readily measured when folks face true adversity, like the French, Dutch, Danish, Norwegian, Polish etc resistance fighters in WW2. Patriotism is also just as ‘properly’ evinced by a quiet, unassuming love of country which we English have always had - and a readiness to serve (not just in the military) one’s country as and when needed.

Most nation states are/were arbitrarily founded and/or imposed and ruling cliques - elected and non elected - everywhere similarly come and go, almost always demanding and expecting if not always earning genuine affection and loyalty from the folks at their often mercurial mercy.

Most folks don’t choose their nation/country they are born there. Emigrating rarely means completely turning your back on your country as evinced by transnational communities almost everywhere around the globe. Most folks move for marital/employment and also familial reasons, and more recently for economic migrant reasons and in some areas because of (harsh)persecution.

I guess (see I can speak American sometimes) that its the familial and familiar activities - and of course the “bloody history” (grin) - that form an indelible national communal bond here that folks enjoy and celebrate that makes the 4th so special for them and America. As a newish US citizen - not actually in any way criticising anything - I will continue to quietly observe the festivities.

Just having a passport doesn’t do anything other than legally make you a citizen, its about an emotional attachment too. Its also to some degree about the folks locally/statewide and nationally of course around you - not just immediate family or neighbours. One’s politics too affects one’s notion of citizenship and belonging. But that’s for another day.

Enjoy your hotdogs and fireworks, hopefully a few liberal campaign offices around the country will get hit by Roman Candles or whatever - and even burn down - smirk.

Being here to stay I will exercise my 1st amendment rights to criticise liberals and liberalism which clearly are ruining this country - its just unpatriotic not to do so. But when abroad or chatting to folks from abroad I will defend America from what is invariably ignorant, uninformed often leftist anti-Americanism.

But all Americans - today of all days should take at least a few moments to remember and honour those - not just in the military who have over the centuries, and not just the heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan today, who have ensured our freedoms from sea to shining sea!!

I really do wish Sir Ronald Reagan were still President. Can’t get more patriotic than that - eh!!

By buzz saw

July 4, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

For those mental midget leftists whining about Bush officials complaining about the lack of nomination confirmations and saying that Gingrich Republicans did the same thing —

The new Democrat-controlled Senate has confirmed just 29 percent of President Bush’s nominations so far this year, leaving many government agencies without key officials and slowing work to a crawl in some departments.

Since Jan. 7, the president has sent 229 major nominations to the Senate, but just 66 have been confirmed. Those figures exclude U.S. attorneys, marshals and judges, but the White House says those nominations also have an alarmingly low confirmation rate — just 18 of the 46 (39 percent) sent to the Senate this year have been approved.

The confirmation rate is far below that of the first six months of 1995, when the White House was occupied by a Democrat and Republicans had just taken over the House and Senate. Back then, President Clinton sent up 188 nominations between January and June, winning approval for 112 — a 60 percent confirmation rate.

By Dusty

July 4, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Oh my, another big phony “Typical Georgia Redneck” who should be hung.

What we have here is a “TYPICAL Yankee import stealer of Georgia sunshine” while acting like a snapping turtle on a stump. “Waffle House”, my foot. He’s probably just closing up his bar in Buckhead, the one with the bullet holes in the wall.

Do you mind if we celebrate the fourth? That’s right. HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY!!!

By getalife

July 4, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

KO to w and cheney

RESIGN!

I real American patriot, thank you KO!

By Liberal Bug Zapper

July 4, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

MTV’s {MTV???] Kurt Loder slams Michael Moore’s SiCkO Leninista propogandist fecal matter:

Unfortunately, Moore is also a con man of a very brazen sort, and never more so than in this film. His cherry-picked facts, manipulative interviews (with lingering close-ups of distraught people breaking down in tears) and blithe assertions (how does he know 18,000* people will die this year because they have no health insurance?) are so stacked that you can feel his whole argument sliding sideways as the picture unspools.

By green mountain boy

July 4, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

I call on Keith Olbermann to resign, for being a stupid, empty-headed a$$. Does he honestly think anyone cares for his insignificant playground opinions, all 35,000 that watch his stupid show on MSNBC anyway?

By Dusty

July 4, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

Dear tftt,

You sound homesick. Are you yearning for fish ‘n’ chips instead of dogs’n’burgers? That’s OK. We love the British and glad you got here. All of us understand an affinity for our homeplace.

Come on over. Our family includes a “first generational” whom we much enjoy. We’ll adopt you. We need a nice British accent to go with our new Spanish one. Lotsa fun.

Hot dogs in the PM. We’ll be looking for you. Cheers!!!

By GodHatesTrash

July 4, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Good God, there’s a disgusting mental image - Dusty, all 350 lbs. of her, stuck in her filthy sweat suit hanging out of her tanktop in back of her trailer nursing the 7th PBR of the breakfast course pouring a can of gasoline on a bag of wet charcoal on her $9.99 grill she bought from Walmart 3 summers ago - while her simian-like inbred relations, with a total of 7 teeth between them chew their tebakky in between beer chugs and Mason jars of white lightnin’, filthy half-nekkid and nekkid babies playin’ with the garden house, Uncle Jethro (actually, Dusty’s brother and father) playin’ grabass with Dusty’s eleven-year old daughter (his niece and grandbaby) and a couple of the neighborhood dogs, and to top off this nightmarish white trash imagery, Dusty cutting the mustard, the sulfurous odor adding to her general wharf-like emanations…

Yes, Happy Fourth, southrons.

Good to be thousands of miles away from all that.

Trash.

By time for the truth

July 4, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Cheers Dusty

Thanks for the invite, obviously you can’t publish your actual address on here (liberal stalkers and all that), so its more a thoughtful kind sentiment

I’m not homesick, (not for a long time now) although certain essential English foods are impossible to get here, even at Harrys. And I still miss the football and going to games just as badly as when I first arrived here.

Spanish/English/Dutch/Chinese/Jamaican - accent doesn’t matter so long as they’re legal like me and your family’s new chap!!!

Enjoy your holiday festivities and make sure the dogs aren’t skeered by the fireworks.

By Dusty

July 4, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Hey, get another rope. God Hates Trash is here.

You need to get a little happiness in your life, Trash. (Hmmm no friends, no class, no education ..no wonder she’s bitter.)

Go shoot off some fireworks, sis’. We’re celebrating. Try it. You’ll like it.

By Dennis

July 4, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Concerning “Scooter” Libby, Mr. Wooten writes; “My preference would have been for a pardon now. But that still could come.”

As has been duly noted by so many others, and keeping in mind that Paris Hilton served more time for driving with a suspended license, no one expects better from a Bush lapdog.

Mr. Wooten is a PRIME EXAMPLE of WHY Americans must keep a close eye and an open mind on their “journalists”.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By time for the truth

July 4, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Hey, get another rope. God Hates Trash is here.

I’ll proudly tie the noose and then we’ll have a good ol country hoe down (sorry crackpipe - couldn’t resist that witty dig - gedditt??) just before Mrs Oedipus-NAMBLA swings from the big ol Magnolia tree.

Predicktably enough our resident, forcibly now exiled child molesting bilious yanKKKee hatepig didn’t learn anything from yesterday’s sublime b itchslapping delivered by yours truly.

Tsk tsk.

By Paul

July 4, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

For all Bush Haters you must go to this link. (It’s safe & work friendly) It’s about Presidential pardons

http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm

By Dems own hypocrisy

July 4, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Dennis needs to see the 10:42am post about journalists conveniently forgetting about history and Clinton pardons.

You’d have to be an idiot liberal Dem not to understand it and only to deny it.

By Dennis

July 4, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

By time for the truth July 4, 2007 10:50 AM “True patriotism is surely much more readily measured when folks face true adversity, like the French, Dutch, Danish, Norwegian, Polish etc resistance fighters in WW2.”

Many of us “cut and run lefties” understand adversity more than you want to give us credit for; that it isn’t necessary to have flying bullets and soldiers on every cornor nor to forcefully occupy the halls of congress and the news media in order to take over a government - even one as large as that of the U.S.

That you do not see an attempted take over as happening in your own country is unfortunate for you on the right as well as for the rest of us.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Dennis

July 4, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

By Dems own hypocrisy July 4, 2007 11:54 AM “Dennis needs to see the 10:42am post about journalists conveniently forgetting about history and Clinton pardons.”

It’s unfortunate that you cannot let each case stand on its on circumstances rather than the childish need to compare one with the other.

But as to your accusation, Dennis didn’t approve of the Clinton pardons either.

Unlike the constrants of being a “rightie”, as a “leftie”, I don’t have to take sides.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By time for the truth

July 4, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

poor old paranoid dennis

empty obtuse paranoid assertions about an “attempted take over” are risible and pathetic - but entirely predicktable. NO ONE, least of all Bush is attempting to take over this country - although some of the cut and run congressional lefties look like they’re trying to fleetingly emulate some aspects of Hitler’s Munich Beer Hall Putsch.

You have to be a dissembling leftist dickhead not see it and deny it!!

By Dennis

July 4, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

By Dems own hypocrisy July 4, 2007 11:54 AM “Dennis needs to see the 10:42am post about journalists conveniently forgetting about history and Clinton pardons.”

It’s unfortunate that you cannot let each case stand on its on circumstances rather than the childish need to compare one with the other.

But as to your accusation, Dennis didn’t approve of the Clinton pardons either.

Unlike the constrants of being a “rightie”, as a “leftie”, I don’t have to take sides.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Dems own hypocrisy

July 4, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Dennis - Unlike the constrants of being a “rightie”, as a “leftie”, I don’t have to take sides.

Dennis again - Many of us “cut and run lefties” understand adversity more than you want to give us credit for;

Sure Dennis. You are one of those enlightened libs who is so high up in the clouds you can’t take a side with anything because you live in your own fantasy world of tranquility. Either that, you are are too cowardly to stand up for what you believe in and take a side. So which is it Dennis? Inquiring minds want to know.

Nonetheless, good for you on not approving of the Clinton pardons (including his own brother re: cocaine distribution). Now, would you mind passing those Clinton pardon facts along to your fellow mindless minions in the media and on blogs so they can stop their crying over Libby? They seem to have forgotten the past. Much obliged.

By smiley

July 4, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

It’s unfortunate that you cannot let each case stand on its on circumstances rather than the childish need to compare one with the other.

Poor Dennis. Cases are compared to other cases all the time. It happens daily around this nation in our courtrooms and law offices. Of course, Dennis is a poor leftocrat who thinks anything is childish if it doesn’t toe his line of approval. Now that is childish, and all that is so common with libs.

By Analchord

July 4, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Happy 4th. T’was John Adams that first suggested fireworks. It’s actually a very sad day. Sarapova lost badly. A Healthy Venus Williams is unbeatable. 128 mph serves? Now that’s real fireworks!

forgetaboutit

By jm

July 4, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

Well, in the game of pardons, who can forget the pardoning of Caspar Weinberger, Elliot Abrams, Robert McFarlane, Duane Clarridge, Alan Fiers, and Clair George by the first president Bush. If you have trouble remembering the crime they committed, relax there was none. Rather than risk a trial, President Bush just issued a blanket pardon covering anything they “might have” done in relation to Iran Contra. Oh yeah, they were pardoned after President Bush lost the election to Bill Clinton.

By Dennis

July 4, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

By smiley July 4, 2007 12:21 PM “Poor Dennis. Cases are compared to other cases all the time. It happens daily around this nation in our courtrooms and law offices.”

Agreed.

“Of course, Dennis is a poor leftocrat who thinks anything is childish if it doesn’t toe his line of approval. Now that is childish, and all that is so common with libs.”

But “conservative” by its very nature, means “open minded”?

By Dems own hypocrisy July 4, 2007 12:14 PM “Sure Dennis. You are one of those enlightened libs who is so high up in the clouds you can’t take a side with anything because you live in your own fantasy world of tranquility. Either that, you are are too cowardly to stand up for what you believe in and take a side. So which is it Dennis? Inquiring minds want to know.”

I’ll take this stand; the “fantasy world of tranquility” doesn’t recognize the terrorists within its own halls of government including the Oval Office of Cheney/GWB.

I suppose I could be a “conservative”, “inquiring mind”, “take a side” and end up just like you with my head up in my a*.

I was raised a conservative. I couldn’t go back to that even if I wanted to.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Mid-South Philosopher

July 4, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

Happy 4th of July Dusty,

To quote the old song, I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in. My usual appraisal of Georgie stirred your ire.

I find it amusing at the number of folks who think I am kidding or being fascious about Georgie pardoning Scooter. I am not! I think it is the height of cowardness that he only commuted the jail time. If Scooter lied (and I am not convinced of that), it was to protect Dickie. Libby should have received a full pardon.

Again, I just wish Georgie would do what is right by Ramos and Campeon…the two Border Patrol agents who are serving really unjust sentences for doing their jobs. Can I please get an AMEN from the Conservative Congregation on this one!?!

As to those of you who want to continue to sing the Ballad of Billy Clinton on and on and on with respect to pardons and other putrifications, just keep on following the George Lost in Alabama During the Vietnam War Bush line, and you will get four to eight more years of Clintonian democracy (God help us!)

By Analchord

July 4, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

I’ll tell you what I’m sick of. The self-encouraging fist-pump after every shot in women’s tennis. So what if you hit a winner. Even if a person is down 6-0, 5-0 in the second set, and they hit a winner, they pump their fist.

I really hate that. I’m also sick of the audible grunt for every stinking shot in woman’s tennis. I dont believe in it, as an advantage over opponents OR as any necessary technique for winning a tennis match.

It’s just more hooey.

By Dennis

July 4, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

Do you suppose S. Libby would turn evidence if he had to do time, or would be a good little soldier and keep his mouth shut about “dickie”?

All of these guys will end up in a cushy job somewhere. Corporations (and some universities) just can’t wait to hire them for their inside knowledge.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By getalife

July 4, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Hell, the cowards w and cheney will not show their faces unless it is a friendly audience like the military.

They should leave the country in disgrace.

By Analchord

July 4, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

The Constitution is our pride and our guide.

All Bush did was to pimp our pride. (and our guide).

SO what. Sick of it already. Move on, dot bong.

TOday’s quiz for the Right. (R U smarter than a 5th column traitor?)

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq.

Define any possible spin of the word victory as it would apply to a US success in Iraq.

Define exactly what you mean when you say that a troop withdrawal now will lead to a catastrophe in Iraq.

Why are we in fact stuck in Iraq for at least 100 years?

By Analchord

July 4, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

Alright, I guess you uber-pundits are helpless on your own.

Here’s the last word on the Libby commutation: Two years after Nixon’s resignation, he appeared live in an interview. As he answered a question about why he gave up those tapes, Nixon suddenly appeared to have realized that he simply could have pardoned his crew, and that would have solved everything. He sat upright, his face expressing his insight about his oversight. “Why, I could have just pardoned them. Of course!”

Nixon taught the Right how to betray the oath of office. With a pardon… a pardon…. Like saying “bless you” when you sneeze, (or “gezundheit” when Heetler sneezed).

Children have the 4 ultimate solutions to over-rule of statutory law: “No backs, no vice versa’s, no changies”, and, “I called it”, and “Mother, may I”, and “simon sez”.

When Valerie Plame was outed, and then captured by enemy operatives, stripped, bound and gagged, waterboarded and electro-tortured, which forced her to reveal the secret rocket tube formula she was hiding from Rice, our national pride and security was weakened.

In 1776, Libby would have been hanged. In 2007, he gets the “I had my fingers crossed when I spilled the beans” pass.

and a child shall lead them…..

By Dusty

July 4, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

Dear MidSouth,1:14

Just to make you happy on the fourth of July, I do not think the border agents should be in jail. It sounded like a breach of the Justice System when no justice is displayed. Haven’t really read an indepth writing of that case but it certainly sounds UNjust.

Libby’s case was a wild chase after nothing, perpetuated for over two years. The case was about the socalled “leak” of Valerie Plame. The leaker had already confessed. But Fitzgerald carried on until he found “something” (?memory loss) to “get one” for the campaign against Cheney. That was his goal since nothing, not one thing, can be raised to indict Bush or Cheney or Gonzalez.

Do you think anything is fair in war, the war waged against the President of the United States by liberals?

I would prefer that liberals wage war against our enemies, the terrorists. They seem to have forgotten in their no-holds-barred war on Bush. You can read this blog all day long and Luckovich’s and nobody (maybe jbmlaw) gives a hoot about our military. Our troops are fighting for us and I think every AMERICAN ought to show support. A few remember today because it is the Fourth of July.

Yeah, “support” the troops but attack Bush, the Commander-in-Chief. There’s no victory in that because terrorists are encouraged. Sorry you can’t see the obvious.

As Dylan Thomas wrote:”Do not go gentle into that good night,….Rage, rage against the dying of the light.” The “light” today may be the USA.

By Analchord

July 4, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

I wish we could fight the terrorists, but we cant. Osama and his homies are free to conspire another 911, thanx to the apparent pardon by Bush.

Bush pardoned OBL for 911 by invading Iraq.

Amnesty for Al Queda! Amnesty 4 Al Ka Ka, (as W pronounced it).

And that’s a fact, Jack.

By Analchord

July 4, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Power tennis trumps glamour tennis everytime. Sharapova had no business being on the same court as V. Williams.

Maria: Work on your serve. Also, learn when to rush the net. Hint: When your opponent is moving backwards, rush the net. Also, when your opponent is moving sideways, rush the net. The odds are the return will be right in your sweet zone, (if’n you be a gittin’ my meanin’).

By Analchord

July 4, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

What do you tell your son about Barry Bonds? “He forgot it was only a game.”

V. Williams waited for M. Sharapova’s FIRST SERVE inside the baseline. That’s how superior Venus is. You cant win without a power serve in tennis. Net game is crucial. Serve and volley always trumps baseline finese. If the Williams sisters can stay healthy, they’ll rule for five years. They only lose injured.

By Analchord

July 4, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

Boy, with the terror alerts in Great Britain, Bush sure did pick a heck of a week to stop upholding the law.

By Analchord

July 4, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

To President Bush: That Libby Commutation was probably the worst decision in the history of our Republic, and some of us here, including me, would like to buy you a drink and shake your hand.

By jm

July 4, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

I see Dusty forgot to take her meds again. The terrorists who attacked the U.S. were not from Iraq, nor were any Iraqis among them.

The terrorists who attacked us were based in Afghanistan (and thanks to W the incompetent are still there) and were mostly from our “friend” Saudi Arabia. Though I think “pusher” is a more appropriate term since they provide our “oil fix”.

By JK

July 4, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Libby’s case was a wild chase after nothing, perpetuated for over two years.

BZZZZZZTTT! Wrong answer. Libby was convicted by a jury of obstructing justice in an investigation of the people for whom he worked — with regard to a serious crime. HE WAS CONVICTED OF LYING AND OBSTRUCTION.

If there was nothing to hide, if there was no merit to the investigation (which, to break it down for the slow folks) might have yielded proof of guilt or innocence had it NOT been obstructed, WHY didn’t Mr. Libby offer FULL cooperation and disclosure? What was so bad that Scootie had to cover it up?

Defenders of Scootie and proponents of pardon: Please answer that question, and then I MIGHT be open to your point instead of seeing you as a blatant apologist and excuse-maker to King Dubya. (…whom we note on Independence Day is himself, along with his buddies, above the law of the land.)

By The Decider

July 4, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

“If there is a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is. And if the person has violated the law, the person will be taken care of…” George W. Bush, September 30th 2003

So what’s your problem? I did what I said I would do. I took care of him. That’s what I do. Thanks Jim Wooten, as always, for your unmiterated praise and support. You have good heart, doing what you do every day. It’s hard work, I tell you, hard work.

By R.J.

July 4, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Among the fascinating aspects of Lewis Libby’s now upcoming sentencing is that his high-profile case resembles in various ways the case of Victor Rita, the defendant whose 33-month (within-guideline) sentence is currently under review by the US Supreme Court. Here are the major highlights.

This example is just one of many in which otherwise good persons have been convicted of crimes similar to Scooter Libby’s and received similar sentences. Libby obstructed justice to protect the Vice President Cheney who endangered CIA agents for political gain, and by commuting Libby’s sentence, President Bush is party to the crime as well.

I’m embarrassed and ashamed to have these people representing me in the White House.

By Dustbuster

July 4, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

Here’s an in-depth read for ditzy Dusty. It’s the Cliff Notes equivalent version of why the two border control agents should be doing time. God bless America when the law is upheld and suspects are safe from being shot in the back. But, it’s open season on illegal immigrants and the inbred hillbillies are loaded for bear.

“According to the U.S. attorney who successfully prosecuted the agents, the man they were chasing didn’t actually have a gun, shooting him in the back violated his civil rights, the agents didn’t know for a fact that he was a drug smuggler, and they broke Border Patrol rules about discharging their weapons and preserving a crime scene.

Even more broadly, Assistant U.S. Attorney Debra Kanof said, Ramos and Compean had no business chasing someone in the first place.

“It is a violation of Border Patrol regulations to go after someone who is fleeing,” she said. “The Border Patrol pursuit policy prohibits the pursuit of someone.”

By Analchord

July 4, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

The liberals wont be satisfied till Bush gives Libby (as Penance) Two Hail Mary’s and an Our Father. (Bush being the First Preacher and all).

But do we not all expect absolution in the end? Let he who is without obstruction and perjury charges cast the first stone.

And what is a little perjury? Perjury sounds so much worse than ‘tis. It’s like adultery. ooooh! Adultery. Perjury. You’d think somebody left their cellphone on in a movie or worse! Double parked!

Let it go. Let Bush have his little conspiracy of war mongering. War mongering sounds so much worse than it actually is.

They go boom, we go boom. and everybody gets paid, kinda nice like.

Easy as apple pie.

By oldpunk

July 4, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

Come on, Jim. Bush was not going to pardon Libby. Then he would be forced to testify truthfully about Cheneys role in this mess. Therefore not gonna happen.

Did you note that the judge has already stated that the commutation is improper? That the probation can only be served after incarceration? Yet another well handled Bush decision.

Also, please explain why you are not up in arms about the President of the US declaring that any jail time for a conviction for perjury and/or obstruction of justice is excessive? Because the rest is of course nothing. Libby pals are already collecting money for the fine and his buddies will make sure he is well employed for the rest of his life.

By Redneck Convert

July 4, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

Well, I’m sorry as I can be that Sister Dusty has a lynching party set up for me. She even lumps me in with GodHatesTrash, that Vermont librul. I still can’t figure out how he got a message all the way from England to here. I thought we was rid of him for a while.

Anyway, I say just let the Scooter Libby thing be. Everybody lies oncet in a while. If we was all put in prison for lying, it would be a mighty lonely world. Anyway, he won’t be saying much from now on because he wasn’t pardoned. That would have put a whole bunch of people in a fix. I understand he’s worth millions of dollars so he won’t have no problem paying a $50,000 fine.

Well, we are about ready to leave for the fireworks. Which almost started at home when the missus lost her temper a while ago. Maybe we’ll get some good news, like this Osama guy has been caught or GodHatesTrash got blowed up by a car over there or tftt has decided to go back home to live or jbmlaw got run over while chasing a ambulance. Or maybe Sister Dusty will beg my forgivness for wanting to lynch a good redneck.

By buzz saw

July 4, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

Libby didn’t out a covert CIA operative. The outer was revealed long ago. What Bill Clinton did with Cisneros was worse than what George W. Bush has done with Libby.

Al Gore’s son is busted for pot and prescription drugs .. while driving a Prius at 100mph. HAHAHAHAHOHOHO!! I wonder, does that invalidate Gore Jr’s carbon credits? Now let’s see how the media jumps all over this one like they did over Bush’s daughters. bzzzzzzzzzzzzz

By Analchord

July 4, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

I like perjury. It’s good.

I’ll say it again. Perjury, for lack of a better word, is GOOD. Perjury works. Perjury pays.

Perjury ist goot!

By Rod

July 5, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

Well, I see that tftt is talking out of both sides of his mouth again (which is pretty hard to do when he’s got another male client taking up the last part of his mouth).

At 10:50 yesterday he said: “Being here to stay I will exercise my 1st amendment rights to criticise liberals and liberalism which clearly are ruining this country - its just unpatriotic not to do so.” Uh, yeah, right. Let’s see - whenever someone says something to critisize Bush or the other incompetants he insults them and calls them unpatriotic and treasonous.

So, he thinks it’s patriotic for his foreign-born a.s.s. to criticize the US Government or politicians or liberals, but not for the people who disagree with him.

Sounds like we’d be alot better off without this bloat.

By JP

July 5, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

“Undeserved” punishment?

Hahahahahahahahahaha….just like a conservative: jail time is for other people. Y’know, libruls.

By jbmlaw

July 5, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

Dear TFTT @ 10:50 yesterday, excellent thoughtful essay, maybe the best I’ve read this week (not that I am denigrating Ann Coulter.)

By Renee

July 5, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

Hey buzz saw - a little dimwitted there, huh? Hate to tell you this, but Gore is not a STANDING PRESIDENT like Bush is. Duh!

By Lamar

July 5, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this

Scooter Libby is a convicted felon, and the sentence was reasonable. Granted, Libby was the fall guy for Karl Rove and Dick Cheney. The injustice is not the prison sentence for Libby, but the lack of a criminal conviction and prison sentence for Rove and Cheney. Libby ought to go to prison, and Rove, Cheney, and Bush ought to go to prison with him. I’m not worried about Bush as much as Cheney. Bush is merely incompetent. Cheney is really the president and the criminal mastermind behind this rogue administration. The only guiding philosophy of the Bush/Cheney administration is the belief that they are above the law. There has never been a more compelling slam-dunk case for impeachment in our nation’s history.

By Craig also

July 5, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this

Amazing. The guy committed perjury, and Wooten and the wingnuts want him pardoned. Most perjurers get twice the sentence that Scooter got. Cynthia Tucker is correct - if this had been a Dem administration, the howls from the righties would have been overwhelming.

It’s very simple, folks, don’t lie to federal investigators. Unless, of course, you’re a high ranking Republican, then it’s okay.

By Mainstream Media Alert

July 5, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten wrote, “On the serious matter of Scooter Libby’s “excessive” sentence, commuted by the President to eliminate jail time, the fall-out from Democrats and others was predictable…”

Here we go again. No sooner had President Bush commuted the sentence of Prisoner 28301-016 (“Cheney’s Cheney” to his pals), and the champagne begun to flow at Mary Matalin’s house, than the mainstream media, Jim Wooten included, launched into its usual, knee-jerk attempt to analyze the response to the decision in terms of right vs left (“…the fallout from Democrats…was predictable…”).

Airwaves and news pages were quickly filled with talk of “outrage from the left,” “criticism from the left,” and how the commutation “will further drive the left crazy.”

It’s positively Pavlovian. Ring the issue bell, and reporters start to drool about right vs left. Even when the facts show that the Libby commutation — like the war in Iraq, like the war on drugs, like global warming — is not an issue that splits along right/left lines.

In a SurveyUSA poll taken immediately after the commutation was announced, 60 percent of those surveyed said they disagreed with the decision, including 35 percent of conservatives. And, in an earlier Time magazine/SRBI poll, 72 percent said they would disapprove of a pardon. So unless “the left” has recently had an incredible growth spurt, a lot of people on the so-called “right” are feeling outraged too.

Is it really that hard for the media to address this issue without the left/right crutch? Or, if Jim Wooten’s insist on hobbling along using that musty terminology, can they at least do a little research and see that there are plenty on “the right” who aren’t exchanging high-fives over Libby dodging the prison bullet?

All they’d have to do is click on the post from conservative blogger Patterico, who said “You do the crime, you do the time… This wasn’t right.” (Double entendre intended) Or they could have checked out Orin Kerr, a conservative law blogger who used to clerk for Justice Anthony Kennedy (and we saw how liberal he is this Supreme Court term). Kerr wrote: “I find Bush’s action very troubling because of the obvious special treatment Libby received.”

And that’s the point. Bush’s imperial chutzpah — commuting Libby without even consulting with the Justice Department — isn’t a matter of right vs left, it’s a matter of right vs wrong.

Anyone who believes in the rule of law, who believes that cronyism is wrong, who believes that all citizens should “stand before the bar of justice as equals.” and who believes that juries should be overruled only in the most extraordinary cases, knows that this decision was flat wrong. (You know, someone like George Bush, who, as Governor of Texas, said: “I don’t believe my role is to replace the verdict of a jury with my own, unless there are new facts or evidence of which a jury was unaware, or evidence that the trial was somehow unfair.” And none of those exceptions applied in this case.)

Can someone please alert the Mr. Wooten: not every issue fits your cherished right/left paradigm. Indeed, your way of looking at the world is becoming less and less relevant — and more and more absurd.

By harold

July 5, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this

cheney reclassified the federal investigators to be part of the janitorial department so it was actually OK to lie to them, in which case it was actually not even lying but instead fibbing

By Craig also

July 5, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

I actually read a poll this morning that found that about 35% of conservatives were opposed to the commutation and eventual pardon of Scooter. So there are some conservatives with the integrity and intelligence to realize the damage this does to our country and the rule of law.

Of course, none of them are in Georgia…

By Craig also

July 5, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this

You said it much better than I, MM Alert, we were posting at the same time.

By catlady

July 5, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

Go ahead and pardon him. This president’s “reign” is a crude joke anyway.

By catlady

July 5, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

You know, if you had told us in 1970 that we would have the kind of government we have today, not many would have believed it(and those who might have would have blamed the liberals, communists, etc). And that it is at the hands of CONSERVATIVES that we have experienced such lying, cheating, stealing, abbrogation of duty, incompetence, suspension of rights, usurpation of duties belonging to the various branches, and good ole boy below the table dealing idiocy would NEVER in a million years been believed!

By AmVet

July 5, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

catlady, in some ways it seems like a hundred years ago, but it was actually only in his 2000 presidential campaign that George W. Bush said he “promised to restore honesty and integrity to the White House”.

I didn’t believe him then. In retrospect he could have more truthfully said cronyism and sheer incompetence.

“Missing” WMDs, pre-2003 Iraq/Al Qaeda connection, Warrantless wiretaps, Katrina debacle, Middle Class “tax cuts” (He also requested major cuts in the Impact Aid program providing funds for the schooling of 900,000 children of military families), The “Clean Air” Act, half-funded No Child Left Behind Act, Kenneth Lay, Harken & Haliburton and now Libby. And there must be many others, I can’t think of at the moment.

Has it turned out that was I right to be so suspicious?