Home > Thinking Right > Archives > 2007 > July > 02 > Entry
DEL.ICIO.USFeel safer with surveillance cameras?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Discoveries over the weeked of two car bombs in London, followed by a firey attack on a Scottish airport, prompted U.S. Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff to make the rounds of Sunday’s talk shows to reassure the country that the necessary precautions are being taken here.
“I think given what we know now, we’re comfortable that we’re at the right posture” said Chertoff. More air marshals will be added to overseas flights and security will be beefed up over the July 4th holiday “at various rail locations and other mass transit locations in cooperation with local authorities,’ he said. That’s not because of any specific threat, but because more people are travelling.
My favorite former Democrat, U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman, who chairs the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs, Sunday advocated greater use surveillance cameras here. “The Brits have got something smart going on in England,” Lieberman said on ABC, “and it was part of why I believe they were able to so quickly apprehend suspects in the terrorist acts over the weekend.” That “something smart” is cameras all over London and in other major cities, he said.
“I think it’s just common sense to do that here much more widely. And of course we can do it without compromising anybody’s real privacy.”
I’m curious here on two points. One is whether the weekend’s events in England and Scotland will affect anybody’s travel plans there or elsewhere — or raise concerns about attending events here that attract large crowds? For me, no.
The other is Lieberman’s “common sense” proposal on surveillance cameras. Frankly, monitoring cameras are by now so integrated into everyday life that I’d welcome them in most any public place where they’re used for security, as opposed to revenue-raising, which is done with traffic cameras.
Terrorists, especially those who turn autos into crude car bombs have so many opportunities, that it’s impossible to protect everything and everybody everywere. Cameras that are monitored may not prevent harm, but they do increase the chances of finding the bad guys, as was the case in England.
An anti-terrorism program that concentrates on border security and on matching arrival and departures for visa-holders — who can then be tracked down and deported — is a higher priority than screening fans at a baseball game or every container passing through the Port of Savannah.
Comments
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
July 2, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this
The Pope will be traveling to London this weekend. We will be staying about a block and a half from the Russell Square tube station, one of the 3 stations bombed on July 7, 2005. The personage of Our Eminence considers us quite safe, certainly safer than driving around the interstates of Georgia with so many drunken rednecks on the highways.
The nice thing about international travel is that most rednecks don’t have passports, so the truly ugly Americans - like the Woo-ten Klanners - stay home.
However, Woo-ten Klanners, travel broadens the mind, even simple ones like yours. On this most patriotic of weekends, We the Pope suggest that you enlist in our fine army and request a trip to Fallujah.
By jbmlaw
July 2, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. I respectfully disagree, in part, with the morning thesis. I think I would feel no safer if we had a bureaucracy of 1,000,000 bureaucrats following around 10 million Mexican visa-holders. Indeed, I would deem that a total waste. I would like 100,000 bureaucrats following around every foreign-born who has an Islamic name. I think domestic Muslims are not a grave risk – seems like there was poll a couple of weeks ago that said only 30% of them think suicide-bombing is justifiable, which I assume is close to the numbers for Methodists, Catholics, and Latter-Day Saints. (Ok, that’s a joke people.) To employ an un-pc concept, until we use a little discrimination in our war on terror, waste and inefficacy will be the rule of the day.
Perhaps to comment on Jim’s primary thrust, despite my libertarian inclinations, I have no problem with public cameras since there is no reasonable expectation of privacy - sort of a Moslems-gone-wild rule, modification of the Florida standard. Even in the case of bureaucrats tapping telephones - just keep the traditional standard, that the fruit of warrantless invasion of privacy shall not be admissible in court.
By Anonymous
July 2, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this
How very libertarian of you to support more government surveillance and increased police powers to follow “suspicious figures” (vaguely defined as anyone with an “Islamic-sounding name”).
Do you think the Libertarian Party will agree with your firmly freedom-loving ideals on this issue?
By Redneck Convert
July 2, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this
Guvmint is getting so nosy that pretty soon I won’t be able to pee by the side of my beer truck without being reported and arrested. I say keep the cameras out of my life. Use them downtown to catch Those People when they mug people or rob another bank.
I don’t want a camera checking me out when I grow a little Crop or maybe use some stuff that’s nobody’s business. Next thing you know, the missus will be getting tape showing everything I do when I’m away from home and out will come the big frying pan again.
Wooten is going to get people kilt. If there was cameras all over they might show some guy sneaking from his own house to visit the wife of another guy. Then the husband would get the tape and go gunning for the guy. The divorce courts and hospitles would just fill up.
I’m downright ashamed of Wooten. He’s a trader to good conservative causes. He spends all this time talking about keeping guvmint out of our life and then turns around and wants guvmint cameras to spy on us. And all the politicans would be showing tape of their enemas doing bad things and pretty soon TV would be too dirty to watch. A guy couldn’t even buy some stuff on a street corner without having DEA people waiting for him when he gets home.
But I’m all for deporting illegals. I don’t care how many A-bombs get smuggled in containers at the ports. Just as long as the illegals get deported and my job is safe. That would be real homeland security.
By DebbieDoRight
July 2, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this
I thought you republicans were for less governement intervention in your lives? Wasn’t that in your failed “Contarct With America”?
By Mid-South Philosopher
July 2, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Jim,
I left London on Tuesday, just before the Thursday bombing, in 2005. One of the last places I went through before leaving for airport was Edgware Road Station, one of the major targeted areas.
If I had the opportunity, I would visit in London, Glasgow, or Edinburgh anytime. One is just as safe there as anywhere else. The Islamist fanatics (this foolishness about a war on terror demonstrates the shallowness of the Bush administration as well as the Democrats)will hit us in their own good time.
Senator Lieberman’s suggestion that we expand security cameras in public areas, if adopted, would provide some benefit; however, we all know that in such an expansive and mobile society as ours, without an effective national mass transit system, nothing will reach more than 67% effectiveness.
The real solution is to attack the attackers. We need to go after the Islamists with the attitude of blood atonement. Such a solution does not sit well with the American people. We are not, by nature, brutal. Also, the politically correct crowd would have a collective stroke.
I fear that before we really get serious about prosecuting this War Against Islamist Fanatics, we will have to suffer the type of attack that the Jihadists are continually threatening to unleash upon us.
By RCH
July 2, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this
I agree with jbmlaw. When you are in a public place there is no expectancy of privacy. They have cameras in Buckhead, why not throughout the city.
I will be flying to Savannah.( Hilton Head), I will leave earlier in case of jams at security.
By Dusty
July 2, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this
Surveillance cameras?? I protest..
Now some of you handsome gentlemen are most surely the heady Hollywood type. Just strut your stuff.
But alas for some, beauty comes from within and that is where it stays. The soul shines and all that stuff, but nobody is taking pictures of it.
I am not speaking of myself, of course, but no one has ever suggested I go into the modeling business either. So must we film all fair features for posterity? Do we not see enough gangsters on CSI, NCIS and Pacino movies to know a criminal when we see one? But, of course. They all wear pin stipe suits for one thing.
I suggest we spend our money on flying banners behind little airplanes that say “Crime does not pay!”. Then let all convicts work in those chicken plants that nobody loves.
As a former Navy man and old friend used to say in a most charitable way when confronted with the less than beautiful:”That one would scare a cat off a gut wagon!” And we want to take pictures of ‘em? Hmmmm I think not.
By jbmlaw
July 2, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this
Dear Anonymous @ 8:47, why would I – or any thinking person – care what the Libertarian Party (or even the Democrat or Republican parties) thinks about anything? I do not subordinate my thinking to any group. If the Libertarian Party had any concept of what it takes to remain free, I may pay attention to them. Freedom for Americans does not mean granting full license to those committed to Jihad.
By jbmlaw
July 2, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this
Poor Anonymous @ 8:47, reading comprehension – if you actually re-read my note, the phrases “suspicious figures” and “Islamic-sounding name,” both of which you placed in quotations, do not appear. I suppose if you have no intelligent argument you can always manufacture a straw man. Just a little honesty, please.
By getalife
July 2, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this
Jim and the other corporate media are playing this failed story for all it is worth.
It slowed down airport traffic.
Enough with the fear card cowards.
Geez.
By getalife
July 2, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
Another levee broke in Kansas flooding an oil refinery.
A major mess but the media is wall to wall coverage playing the fear card in England.
Geez.
By Dusty
July 2, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
Would someone please tell MidSouth Philosopher that we ARE fighting a war against terrorism whether he likes George Bush or not?
And someone please alert the British that Pope RedNecks is coming to London? Now that should really worry them. Besides, he is staying near Russell Square which is close to the British Museum, a place dear to my heart.
Yep, call Scotland Yard asap. Anyone who continually reviles the South in the manner of the puerile Pope is a suspicious character.
By Truths Sister
July 2, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this
OFF SUBJECT:
Two Lawyers Kidnapped!!
If only one of the lawyers wasn’t our own dear jbmlaw. It would’ve been worth it, if only to see if he could’ve kept quiet for all those hours!! I would’ve paid good money to see if he’d b#tch up and crap his pants while crying for his mama!!
By Truths Sister
July 2, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this
OFF SUBJECT:
Two Lawyers Kidnapped!!
If only one of the lawyers was our own dear jbmlaw. It would’ve been worth it, if only to see if he could’ve kept quiet for all those hours!! I would’ve paid good money to see if he’d b#tch up and crap his pants while crying for his mama!!
By Truths Sister
July 2, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this
I thought Lieberman was an Independent? Does this Wooten guy ever checks his facts?
By Mid-South Philosopher
July 2, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this
Dusty,
Fighting a war against terrorism is like fighting a war against diarrhea. Both are symptoms…not the disease itself. The latter is a symptom of bacteria or virus in the digestive system. The former is a symptom of vermin in the social or theological system. Both can be cured with a strong purgative. Trouble with we Americans is we are using Feenament gum when we really need Castro Oil!
As for me disliking Georgie Bush…he worked hard to earn that honor. I voted for him twice!
By melo
July 2, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
I work at the airport and would like to see more security on curbside roads and on the parking deck and lot. A determined terrorist, even a home grown one would find it easy to pack explosives and do considerable damage. Cameras in those places would be ideal. Like Liberman, i agree with the use of cameras. If you have nothing to hide or no bad intentions, why do you fear?
By JD
July 2, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this
Debbie,
Dredging the “Contract with America” into a conversation 15 years later and the Democrats have failed at everything they propose.
Just a few months ago we heard Speakerpserson Pelosi promise open government when the Dems took over but the first, or near first, move is to eliminate the public information on earmarks.
Only one example of the pathetic lying “Members” (what a great description)of Congress.
By harold
July 2, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this
we need to get our thugs to fly more so we get cameras at the airport. then at least the airport police will be accountable for their snotty woman body slams (if that woman was even being snotty… considering all the stuff that went down with the ATL-PD since then, who knows)
harold gives the windy hill & 41 red light camera the FINGER every time he runs it on his bicycle
By time for the truth
July 2, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this
Lets hope that Mrs Oedipus NAMBLA is swiftly in the wrong place at the wrong time in England which is increasingly the case for so many people now everywhere, not just in the major cities. Assuming it actually goes anywhere beyond S Georgia, I recall last year that pathetic, anally heralded postcard posted from Tifton GA (wasn’t it?).
UNLIKE Mrs JM Karr I have TWO passports, a UK one and a US one.
In the UK thuggish binge drinking by feral yoofs and older men and increasingly women of all races is staggering and these feral yoofs now just casually use knives for stabbing folks on the street the way a Klinton or a Kennedy used to molest women. 18 is the legal age of alcohol use/abuse. Even more predicktably black yoofs, aping their hippety hop heroes over here increasingly now murderously use guns in England the way black yoofs here do to settle moronic petty “dissing” incidents. The social fabric of the UK has all but been destroyed by T B.Liar and NU Labour. Crime is beyond out of control, drug taking is out of control, street crime is out of control, gangs of feral yoofs now routinely beat anyone who challenges them, or just offends them in the street - even folks outside their homes protecting their property late at night. Frequently innocent folks are beaten to death or at least a bloody pulp with virtual impunity. Knives are used where fists used to be 20/30 yerars ago. The local plod in London are now so pathetically politically correct and scared of offending any towel head terrorist that wanted terror suspects have escaped because the cops wont challenge them for fear of mohhamedan screeching about racism.
The mental sickness of liberalism and all its moral relativism, multi-culturalism. restorative justice, weak prison sentences as bad as anything ever seen in VT has infested a once civilised country. Stylish Hollywood violence, slasher movies etc and vicious video games have undeniably helped desensitise these thugs. As has hippety hop thuggishness.
DON’T BELIEVE ME??? Do a search in the Telegraph web site for “knife crime” and for “black gun crime” and read just a handful of the recent stories on just these two subjects.
UK cocaine use by just ordinary non-celebs is now staggering - the Daily Mail has exposed this with recent stories.
This is just one very recent story from one middle class town in leafy suburban Kent.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/01/nrstab101.xml
By harold
July 2, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this
ok the relevant question here is “did the cameras prevent any bombings” and the answer is No. Incompetence prevented the bombings, and incompetence led to the police questioning the “suicide” bombers. questioning led to arrests. cameras led to nothing.
this had nothing to do with cameras.
if the bombs had been successful we’d be watching grainy useless camera images on the news with them going “this man was suspected in bombings; if you recognize this blur call your police officials”
so what is lieberman talking aboutt? lieberman just wants to be able to spy on brownish people. the democrats should really fire his a*. all the arab-haters became republicans in 2001
By Southern Democrat
July 2, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this
The cameras throughout the U.K. were, of course, put up in response to the bombing campaigns of the IRA which were much more extensive and deadly than the recent spate of terrorism. The same goes for Spain’s struggle with ETA… it created an anti-terrorist infrastructure.
I have no problem with increased surveillance. I particularly have no problem with private surveillance. My issue is that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security is the biggest money waster in the entire government (even more so than the Department of Education) and I do not trust it to use the money and power that would go towards building a surveillance network effectively. I would task local law enforcement with the establishment and develop soft and hardware to link federal agencies with local law enforcement. I had the privilege of touring some of NYPD’s counter-terrorist facilities and was very, very impressed with their organization and professionalism. I cannot say the same for my interactions with DHS.
By time for the truth
July 2, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this
Posting cameras all over the place? Bloody no I say! This would cause irrepreble harm to me and would limit my income severely!
The Johns I pick up along Peachtree Street and Juniper might be less willing to fork over the funds necessary for my sustainment if they knew a camera was watching our little sexcapade. If I don’t give my pimp $100 a night he beats the crap out of me and reminds me what my bunghole is truly for.
I want my personal privacy, that’s why I left bloody England in the first place (that and the warrants out for me).
By Anonymous
July 2, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this
JBM: So when you say you have libertarian leanings… you’re pretty much kidding, right?
Because the notion that increasing government police power and privacy intrusions is a good thing is pretty much the opposite of the libertarian ideal.
Just sayin’, you might want to drop any mention of the word “libertarian” in describing yourself or your ideas, since it’s patently false.
By getalife
July 2, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this
Did the crime rate drop in Buckhead after they installed the cameras?
By Curious Observer
July 2, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Ah, yes, the Islamists are inflicting terror on the United Kingdom. Time to drag out the time-tested Vote for a GWB clone in ‘08; you know the Dems are weak on security.
Maybe we can have a camera in every bedroom. That ought to take care of fornication, adultery, illegitimate children, and even the pedophilia so many conservatives seem to love.
Come to think of it, let’s just over-react a little more and force everybody to walk around naked. It’s pretty hard to hide bombs and other weapons in body hair.
Bunch of spineless wimps!
By RCH
July 2, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Harold Cameras aided in the capture of the Glasgow bombers. They were also used extensively during the subway bombing. Those so called grainy pictures can be cleared by the right equipment to give a sharp picture of the perpetrator.
Go to any mall, most stores and their parking lots, govt buildings, etc , you will find you are already on camera. I didn’t know cameras where racist?
By RCH
July 2, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Harold Cameras aided in the capture of the Glasgow bombers. They were also used extensively during the subway bombing. Those so called grainy pictures can be cleared by the right equipment to give a sharp picture of the perpetrator.
Go to any mall, most stores and their parking lots, govt buildings, etc , you will find you are already on camera. I didn’t know cameras where racist?
By Dennis
July 2, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
By DebbieDoRight July 2, 2007 8:50 AM “I thought you republicans were for less governement intervention in your lives? Wasn’t that in your failed “Contarct With America”?”
Mr. Wooten is not about to touch that one.
By Mid-South Philosopher July 2, 2007 8:50 AM. “I fear that before we really get serious about prosecuting this War Against Islamist Fanatics, we will have to suffer the type of attack that the Jihadists are continually threatening to unleash upon us.”
I think that with 9/11, we’ve been there. But we went after the oil rather than after the Jihadists.
Americans have paid a big price with dead and wounded American soldiers (and are doomed now to pay even more) for the selfish, selfserving policies of the Bush administration and the oil industry.
It’s scary as hell to have people like Mr. Wooten turned lose in the media.
Americans are paying a big price for that, too.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By Dusty
July 2, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this
MidSouth Philosopher,
Sorry you don’t think we are REALLY fighting terrorism. In fact, you never even mentioned the War on Terrorism in Iraq. Perhaps you have convinced yourself that we are not fighting terrorism there. That IEDs, mass graves, beheadings, tortured POWs, are just a bit of inhouse unhappiness.
Your suggestion is that we fight the sources. Let’s see. That would entail bombing the Himalayas, the Madrassas in Saudi Arabia full of little terrorists to be, suspicious mosques, all gatherings of Hamas, Hezbollah, Shining Light, etc. etc. Is that what you mean?
As for disliking George W. Bush, I think he has the foresight that few Americans seem to realize. He is fighting terrorism now, where it is, before it aims the full force at America.
The main thing that would help our fight against terrorism would be to throw full American support behind it. There is so much whining about President Bush that our enemies most surely associate that with disconent against fighting them. I am quite sure, and other reports say the same, that discontent with Bush and the war is encouraging terrorists.
I do not “worship” Bush as some will soon say. He has made human errors, mostly by believing in people he thought were competent when they were not. But he has a vision of the future that I believe will be found to be true as time passes. Sorry you don’t see it.
By DebbieDoRight
July 2, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this
Only one example of the pathetic lying “Members” (what a great description)of Congress.
OMG!!! I don’t believe you went there!!! You must be gunning for a fight!! Well, it’s too nice of a week, I have no meetings, no business travel, no airport/hotel food to choke down, and NO compunction to argue this a.m.!! So, I’m gonna cut you a break.
However, I really can’t let you get away with that comment. So riddle me this……which branch of the goverment does the Vice President fall under? If he’s not Executive then he can’t claim Executive Priviledge and has to answer the summons.
How do you think he’ll wiggle out of that one?
By DebbieDoRight
July 2, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
harold gives the windy hill & 41 red light camera the FINGER every time he runs it on his bicycle
Too funny!!! LMAO!!
By Anonymous
July 2, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this
Bush’s “vision” seems to be of an America that bosses around or ignores the rest of the world and tries to fight terrorism alone, through military force abroad and abolition of civil rights at home… even when those tactics are proven failures.
That’s not a vision I’d care to share, thank you. I’m an American, not a Bushie.
By time for the truth
July 2, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this
@ South Dem
NOPE - the current massive network of cameras were NOT put up because of cowardly racist fenian terrorism against us English. There were of course a fair number of CCTV cameras for security in the more obvious (public) places back in those days - but the huge explosion in the numbers of cameras ALL ACROSS OLD ALBION, installed and monitored by both private business and local councils has primarily come in the sleaze ridden authoritarian but yet amazingly ineffective law and order blowhards of the last decade of the corrupt to the core Nu Labour and Tony B.Liar regime.
B,Liar has now been interviewd by police three times in the Nu Labour peerages for sale scandal. Top Labour govt sleaze bags have even been charged in this somewhat covered up scandal.
see how sick liberalism is everywhere??!!
there are countless thouands of traffic cameras now all over the UK, including semi-rural roads catching motorists and fining them for doing even 3 miles an hour over the speed limit. You get penalty points on your licence too if the offence is bad enough. Traffic light cameras are everywhere too. a few folks have been rathere amusingly prosecuted for criminal damage to these cameras.
By Mid-South Philosopher
July 2, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this
Let’s take a look at Georgie Bush’s record.
He started strong in the War Against Islamist Fanatics. The Afghan Campaign was quite successful, but he has become side-tracked in the Iraq War because he (and his stooge, Rumsfeld) didn’t pay attention in 10th grade class on the one day the teacher talked about Islam and the Middle Eastern mindset. Consequently, after winning the military victory over Saddam’s forces, he was a lost ball in high grass as to how to occupy that da*n attempt at a political threesome (Shi’a, Sunni, and Kurd).
His tax cuts have benefited the wealthy and spurred the economy for all of us…no argument there. However, the growth of jobs that he likes to tout have largely been in the low paying service sector. The actual earnings power has declined.
His administration’s handling of Hurricane Katrina was sophomoric at best.
He has NEVER met a SPENDING bill, out of the conservatively dominated Congress (remember the Dems, sorry as they are, have only been in power less than a year), that he didn’t like!
He melded with Teddy Kennedy to support two of the most ludicrous and illogical pieces of legislation that could be conceived by two reformed drunks…No Child Left Behind (No Teacher Left with One) and the recently failed Comprehensive Immigration Reform (Amnesty) Bill.
He has blatantly refused to enforce the existing immigration laws…the one area in which his detractors might have grounds for an impeachable offense…but, then, again,…who in the Hades wants Dickie Cheney any closer to the Oval Office than he is.
In Bush’s defense, there has not been another major attack on American soil since 2001…so his or somebody’s strategy has worked there and, in my judgment that is his one redeeming value. Incidentally, the last attack on America in 2001 was NOT the 911 attacks. We seem to have forgotten about the anthrax assault. Whatever happened to that investigation?
By death to cowardly leftist queer id stealers
July 2, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this
the gutless queeralicious id stealer … is that you again Mrs Oedipus NAMBLA? … needs to be beaten to a bloody pulp and then fed, live on pandering WSB TV to that pesky alligator in the Hooch!!
huge that’s the ONLY way to deal with queer nutters smirk
By Southern Democrat
July 2, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this
TFTT,
Interesting. I lived in London (Mayfair) for a month each summer in the mid ’90s and my uncle was married to a woman in the Royal Navy who used to point out cameras to me that (she said) had been installed to detect IRA movements and had been updated and maintained. I thought I had read somewhere, too, that the network was simply updated and digitized post 9/11, but I guess I am wrong (not a first).
By DebbieDoRight
July 2, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this
We seem to have forgotten about the anthrax assault. Whatever happened to that investigation?
They found out it was really started by Fox News Network in an asinine attempt to boost their ratings. Sad to say that it worked.
By In other words
July 2, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
As for disliking George W. Bush, I think he extremely few realizations that Americans didn’t have the foresight to see. He is fighting terrorism now, where he has helped create and empower a full force that is aimed at America.
Another ineffective thing that would help our sloganeering against terrorism would be to throw full American support behind it. There are so many fawning yes men surrounding President Bush that our enemies most surely associate that with disconent (disconnect? discontent?) against maintaining one of our most cherished rights, to petition our government for redress of grievances. I am quite sure, and other reports say the same, that discontent with Bush and the war is encouraging liberty.
And as we all know, if every single American citizen, man, woman and child, threw their unquestioning support behind Bush, the terrorists would simply give up and the war on terrorism would be over.
I do worship Bush as anyone can see. He is a superhuman and has made a couple of minor errors, mostly by pretending to be competent when he was not. But he has a vision of HIS future that I believe will be found to be true as time passes. Sorry you don’t see it.
By time for the truth
July 2, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
southern
NOT disputing at all that some cameras were put up to track fenians (and other criminals) in some obvious sensitive areas - but there are now CCTV cameras in virtually every single main st in every city, town and many average villages in England - which was NOT the case even just 10 years or so ago. the fenians did NOT ever attack places like Rayleigh in Essex or Halifax in W Yorks or Marlborough in Wiltshire - just three examples of pretty ordinary (smallish) places that have/had NO strategic fenian importance and have been wired up with cameras that I have seen myself in return trips to what used to be (before Nu Labour) the sceptered isle!
in part its to track the binge drinking/street crime I mentioned in an earlier post. Even small market towns in the shires of England can be just as violent at what used to be closing time (before 24 hour drinking arrived)with drunken yoofs as London’s west end or Leeds or Liverpool.
By Mid-South Philosopher
July 2, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
Dusty,
At 10:22 you stated, among other things:
Your suggestion is that we fight the sources. Let’s see. That would entail bombing the Himalayas, the Madrassas in Saudi Arabia full of little terrorists to be, suspicious mosques, all gatherings of Hamas, Hezbollah, Shining Light, etc. etc. Is that what you mean?
That is exactly what I mean!
It is the notion of blood atonement. For every attack on the West, we respond with a tactical nuclear weapons attack on one of the selected terrorist-centered targets (you know, one where Dickie Cheney knows the terrorists are!)
Due to the negligence of the Clinton and Bush administrations, we can’t do it with conventional forces. So it will have to be with tactical nuclear devices.
Of course, a lot of innocent people will be victims. That is why it is called WAR! What we need is a “Billy” Sherman strategy for dealing with the Islamic Fanatics.
I do not believe, by a long shot, that the majority of followers of Islam are Islamists. Rather, they are cowed by their fanatic brethren. If we implement the blood atonement strategy, and when the law of diminishing returns takes over in the number of their casualties, the moderate Muslims will rise up an put a stop to the fanaticism of the Islamists.
Of course, we are NOT going to do any of this. We are going to sit idly by in our diversified, politically correct, intellectually neutered stupor until we are hit again, and wonder what we did wrong.
By Truths Sister
July 2, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this
Oh goody!! My big brother/sister/cousin/boyfriend, TFTTT is here!!! NOW you’re gonna get it you twisted leftist swine!!
In the UK thuggish binge drinking by feral yoofs and older men and increasingly women of all races is staggering and these feral yoofs now just casually use knives for stabbing folks on the street
Bow down dogs and lick the feet of a true words master!!
By harold
July 2, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this
but seriously harold has no problem with red light cameras. they address real problems which are jackasses blocking intersections or blazing thru the red at high speed
speeding ticket cameras though.. those things essentially give you a ticket for not having a NAV system in your car. NAV systems tell on those things, so those things are useless except for slowing down the quarter mile before them. put one every quarter mile, harold supposes, and maybe they’ll slow traffic down overall
By Truths Sister
July 2, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
huge that’s the ONLY way to deal with queer nutters smirk
My goodness!! Never have I seen such literary genius flow so smoothly from a typewriter before! This man/woman/thing is a GOD.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
July 2, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
Well Truth’s Sister, are you gonna lick troof-tranny’s feet while s/he does her usual thing on the family pets? It’ll be kinkier than a bunch of drunken Scotsmen and a herd of horny sheep …
Dusty, you silly hillbilly wench, We the Pope are an American Goodwill Ambassador, letting the people of the United Kingdom and the World know that not all Americans are angry stumpbroke incest victim rapists that just want to kill everything that isn’t them. We are an Ambassador of Peace, Courage, and Reason, everything you filthy rednecks ain’t.
Stay home this summer Dusty. Your trailer needs you.
By Dusty
July 2, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
Midsouth Philosopher,
Yes, let us review Bush’s presidency with an open mind and facts.
USA won the war in Afghanistan. Since 2003, the stabilization of Afghanistan has been under the direction of ISAF(International Security Assistance Force). Troops from over 25 nations are present there. NATO, not just USA, assists there. The country was not deserted.
We disposed of a terroristic ambitious dictator in a central Mid-Eastern country, Iraq. Fanatical islamists have gathered there and the postwar period has become war. We are fighting to preserve the country to whom we gave freedom. It is not easy as post war periods often are. But we have given Iraqis a chance at freedom that they must pursue. That is the dream of Bush, give freedom and fight terrorism in its MidEast origins.
Our economy is good. Jobs are jobs whether high or low. The small number of”rich” put more money into the USA treasury than all the larger number of “poorer” people here. Are you saying that is not fair?
Bush has had an American attack 9/11, a city demolished by hurricane, a world shaking tsunami and earthquakes, two wars against terrorism. increased homeland defense, and you don’t know why he/Congress spent a lot of money? Well, guess!!
An effort to improve education may or may not have worked. Have not heard the final verdict on that one.
Bush tried to improve immigration. His plan was rejected by Americans. That is the way our government works.
I can only say that Republican President Bush has been working solely for the benefit of this country. I see no plans by Democrats to do anything at all, much less better.
By GaLiberal
July 2, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
Jim, Jim, Jim. You ignorant, Republican shill. On one hand you rail against illegal immigrants because they are breaking the law and don’t have any problem with surveillance cameras to catch law breakers. Yet, you then object that red light cameras because they are just there to raise revenues. What part of ‘breaking the law’ don’t you understand? Running a red light is illegal same as crossing the border into the US. In fact, running a red light is probably the more unsafe of the two. The answer is simple; if you don’t want to be a law breaker, don’t break the law. This just another example Republican neo-con double standards - punish all the law breakers except for me. Why do you hate America so much?
By time for the truth
July 2, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
@ turd’s sistah
the ONLY reasonable attitude to take (and employ) with yellowbellied simpering leftist invertebrates like yourself is just verbally abuse them. obviously one doesn’t want to deploy abstruse abuse that will float over the head of the average zombie like pinko scum - especially yourself - that manifestly infests this blog, so mindful of that potentially counter productive danger, here is my considered pithy salutation for you:
F… Off and DIE!!
By RCH
July 2, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
GaLiberal When you recieve a citation a month after supposedly runing a red light, who was driving the car? Prove it!
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
July 2, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
Ah, We the Pope are castigated, ridiculed, scorned. Rednecks wish Us dead or incarcerated.
We endure Our tribulations knowing that Our Lord sent His Only Son to suffer and die for Us, and everyone, even the spawn of Satan rednecks that plague our world with their KKKhristofascism.
Lord, forgive the redneck. They know not what they do. Amen
By getalife
July 2, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this
Dusty forgets the promise on the bullhorn promising to get the ones responsible for 9/11.
Had them on the run, cut and ran to invade Iraq for oil.
The 9/11 victims did not get the closure they were promised.
The failures are too many to list and all w has left is the failed Iraq occupation. He is obstructing justice for accountability and the gop are obstructing all legislation.
The gop are pathetic failures and sore losers.
Own them crusty, they are your party.
By Charles
July 2, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this
Americans should,
(a) Demand that cameras be removed from public places,
(b) Send all illegal immigrants back home,
(c) Insure that people who prefers to globalize as opposed to nationalize be bound with the chains of the Constitution.
The Constitution of the United States is a Nationalist document and protects its citizens from tyranny of the government. It obviously has no value to a tyrannical government or people who believe in a global world. Cameras protect Americans from terrorist and subversives. Yet they are also a tool to assist tyrannical governments in its control of a populace. The latter is the greater and imminent threat to the freedom of Americans. In the event that the United States government publicly declares to its populace that America has moved from a Republic to Fascist State, the cameras are already in place to insure the safety of the proclaimed fascist government and its declaration. No surveillance cameras in public places please!By Charles
July 2, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
Americans should,
(a) Demand that cameras be removed from public places,
(b) Send all illegal immigrants back home,
(c) Insure that people who prefers to globalize as opposed to nationalize be bound with the chains of the Constitution.
The Constitution of the United States is a Nationalist document and protects its citizens from tyranny of the government. It obviously has no value to a tyrannical government or people who believe in a global world. Cameras protect Americans from terrorist and subversives. Yet they are also a tool to assist tyrannical governments in its control of a populace. The latter is the greater and imminent threat to the freedom of Americans. In the event that the United States government publicly declares to its populace that America has moved from a Republic to Fascist State, the cameras are already in place to insure the safety of the proclaimed fascist government and its declaration. No surveillance cameras in public places please!By Dusty
July 2, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this
MidSouth,
Just read your last piece. Sorry, but I don’t advocate another World War nor the use of atomic bombs or even primitive blood atonement. We are not in the same do or die situation which Truman faced when he made his atomic decisions. We also do not create military for blood atonement. That is not an American goal.
We also do NOT need another depressed “Billy” Sherman burning his way across the Middle East to win a war. General Petraeus has a plan and it is not a blood thirsty one or an incendiary one as you suggest.
I think it is very sad that some Americans cannot support the war we are fighting but want to burn the world with atomic bombs. Atomic bombs are the very last thing to be considered, never an every day option.
Pope redneck,
Have a nice trip in the baggage compartment. Bring your bone along so you can chew on it to prevent air sickness.
Stay away from those cameras when you get there. But you better practice looking normal before a camera (or anywhere). Now “Cheese!! That’s it. Smile!
By Mid-South Philosopher
July 2, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
Dusty,
While a better job has been done in Afghanistan than Iraq, I think, with the resurgence of the Taliban in portions of that country, it is a bit premature to raise the Mission Accomplished banner just yet. Over the Pakistani border, in that No Man’s Land there still remain entirely too many Islamists (Usama bin-Laden probably among them, if his liver has rotted out yet). This would be a good location for the first blood atonement strike.
Iraq is disaster. It will be a disaster 10 years from now. Georgie and Donnie didn’t know their Middle Eastern history. Iraq was put together by the British as a flipping political convenience! The peaceful Sunni and Shi’s have been slicing each other throats since Muhammed soared off to Allah in the 7th Century. They are NOT going to change. The Kurds like the Sunni and the Shi’a only slightly better than the Turks. It is a cluster ….
As far as the economy is concerned, Georgie Bush is NOT a conservative…he is a corporatist. A corporatist favors the maintenance of the small elite capitalist class…the movers and shakers of the business world. They want a small, pre-World War I (yes I said World War I) sized middle class. They want an even smaller, small business class. Finally, they want a large working and working poor class (about 90% of the population). In the absence of extermination facilities, they will tolerate 5-7% deadbeats, homeless, and prisoners.
With respect to education, if No Child Left Behind is such a success, why do we hear the hew and cry for vouchers?
As to spending money, even if you take out ALL (that is every da*n dollar) that he has spent on the war effort in Afghanistan and Iraq, government spending has risen under George W. Bush more than ANY American President since World War II!
Barring some earth shattering event between now and January 20, 2009, in the legacy of history, George W. Bush will be numbered among such greats as Millard Fillmore, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, and Warren G. Harding.
By RCH
July 2, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this
Charles
“Yet they are also a tool to assist tyrannical governments in its control of a populace.”
How would cameras control? It is an medium that plays a part in the prevention or capture of law breakers ,not the only element.(unlike red light cameras). It is not designed to spy on you and Debbiedoright at a casual afternoon meeting at your favorite hotel.(LOL,sorry)
By Charles
July 2, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
Very simple RCH,
Freedom loving Americans will agree with my position. Terrorist and subversives and the ignorant will agree with you.
By Dusty
July 2, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
Sorry Mid South,
Afghanistan is still under the ISAF.
WWII was a disaster until we won. Iraq will either go under or get their Iraqi act together. Ethnic differences are nothing new. Recall Bosnia, etc.? Right now we are fighting to give the Iraqis one last chance at decent citizenship. I support our troops to the last soldier in their mission. They should be told of our support every day by every American.
The elistist corporists are the brains of American who are smart enough to conduct big business. Would you say that the inventor/owner of Microsoft is one of those dreaded creatures? Or may be even our local Ted Turner? Only the communists know how to equalize wealth. We decided a long time ago we don’t like that. What is it you like about it?
If you choose to ignore the great undisputed expenditures brought about in America, that is your privilege. I can’t decide what it is you want to delete. Another World Atomic War to cut expenses for instance?
By RCH
July 2, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
Charles
Explain very simple? What is the difference between a policeman on every corner and a camera on every corner. You will find cameras just about everywhere already, including my home.
By Truths Sister
July 2, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this
USA won the war in Afghanistan. Since 2003, the stabilization of Afghanistan has been under the direction of ISAF(International Security Assistance Force). Troops from over 25 nations are present there. NATO, not just USA, assists there. The country was not deserted.
The country couldn’t be deserted because it is now teeming with Taliban. Who are even now resorting to their old ways of terror and murder. They broke it, they have to stay to fix it.
TFTTTT: the ONLY reasonable attitude to take (and employ) with yellowbellied simpering leftist invertebrates like yourself is just verbally abuse them. obviously one doesn’t want to deploy abstruse abuse that will float over the head
That’s brilliant stuff!!! Yellowbellied simpering leftists inveterbrates!! You sir/madam/thing are one of the best on this blog. Everyone should take note on how you cunningly led off with the word reasonable, like that word ever applied to you, then, just to make sure everyone knows that at one time you were a sane person before your lobotomy you throw in a big word like abstruse.
Pure genius! Pure genius!!! They say you’re crazy. I say you’re one step closer to being euthanized by your “loved” ones for your insurance money!!! You go boy/girl/thing!!
By BS Aplenty
July 2, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this
Re: Charley the Brown Shirt
Chuck, the first step for a recovering fascist is just to admit it. As a gesture of help - when everybody who disagrees with you is wrong, then you’re the one with the problem (unless you’re Jesus - probably not).
P.S. I hear the Betty Ford Clinic has an excellent Idi Amin section for would be dictators. Harold (in the first person) attended but got in an argument with Harold (in the third person) and ultimately was transferred to the schizo ward - Betty can help but she can’t do miracles.
By Mid-South Philosopher
July 2, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
We are of two different mindsets. We view the same set of circumstances, yet perceive things differently. Perhaps one of us is correct, perhaps each of us is partially correct, perhaps both of us are wrong.
At any extent, I tip my hat to you. You have argued logically, nobly, and without rancor. On this board that is an achievement.
We are not going to change each other’s minds or perspectives, and only time will validate or negate the positions each of us have asserted. That is, of course, provided some Islamist fanatic doesn’t do us in in some yet to be experienced attack.
At any extent, I cannot devote anymore time to this hobby today. I trust we will duel again.
Until later, I am
Respectfully,
Mid-South
By Charles
July 2, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
RCH,
Watch the film by Aaron Russo, Freedom to Fascism. It’s on the internet.
www.radioliberty.com
By Redneck Convert
July 2, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
I agree with all the good things Sister Dusty says about My President. Is there any way we can pass a law to let him run again? It just ain’t right to have to let a good president step down just when he has done so many good things.
I’m sorry to learn tftt is gay. I might a knowed it. Anybody with that much anger in the heart has to be warped.
I’m very happy this Pope fellow is going out of the country. It serves England right. You give us tftt and we’ll give you Pope Rednecks. Sort of a even trade. Stop sending us your castoffs and we’ll stop sending ours.
By Charles
July 2, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
BS Aplent,
I agree with the following people. They didn’t get angry when I dissagreed with them.
www.radioliberty.com www.iotconline.com www.thepatriots.us www.chuckcoppes.com www.freedomadvocates.org www.infowars.com www.deliberatedumbingdown.com www.expendableelite.com
www.americandeception.comwww.worldaffairsbrief.comwww.gregpalast.com www.ccir.net www.williamhkennedy.com www.patholiday.comwww.thepowerhour.comwww.jerryesmith.com www.dickmorris.com
By Truths Sister
July 2, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
when everybody who disagrees with you is wrong, then you’re the one with the problem
Then he, (Chuck), must be GWB lurking on this blog trying to get pointers on how to win the WAR ON TERROR.
By GaLiberal
July 2, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this
RCH It’s not about having to prove anything. It’s about you and eveyone else obeying the law and not running (note there are 2 n’s; not one) red lights. If you don’t run a red light then you have nothing to fear. However, I don’t want law breakers to have a free pass. If it’s good enough for the “illegal” immigrants, it’s good enough for the “illegal” drivers. You will have to pay a civil penalty (it’s not a traffic fine), but at least you won’t get deported.
By Charles
July 2, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this
I agree with truth sister.
By RCH
July 2, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this
GaLiberal Your forgetting. You are innocent until proven guilty. Its kind of difficult(impossible) for a red light camera to view the driver. And, if you are the owner it is not your responsibility to provide the authorities with the name of the individual who may have been driving that automobile. Cameras should be an aid, not the final determination of guilt.
With regards to an illegal alien. the courts must prove so. If they can, you should be deported.
By time for the truth
July 2, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
@ turd’s sistah
all that execrable pathetic turgid bluster doesn’t actually obfuscate the immediate need for you to immediately F Off and Die.
Thanks very much!
We the Paedophile Perverted (yanKKKee)Pimp are castigated, ridiculed, scorned. Our southern betters wish us dead or incarcerated … NOW THE far left hate America ABORTION BUCKET ESCAPEE GETS IT!!!
jeeeez … even in temporary possession of both of what passes as maggot brain’s full complement of brain cells Mrs Oedipus NAMBLA is still as thick as (a) pigsh!t clone of maxine waters or john conyers!!
anyone know if that that crackpipe/R Kelly animal husbandry video has legally surfaced yet? inbred rednekkk swears its the best pirated sex ed tape he’s ever seen!!
By Aquagirl
July 2, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this
Sorry, but I don’t advocate another World War nor the use of atomic bombs or even primitive blood atonement. We are not in the same do or die situation which Truman faced when he made his atomic decisions. We also do not create military for blood atonement. That is not an American goal.
We also do NOT need another depressed “Billy” Sherman burning his way across the Middle East to win a war. General Petraeus has a plan and it is not a blood thirsty one or an incendiary one as you suggest.
Oh my God, for once I agree with Dusty. We can’t make ourselves safer by bombing the crap out of other people to scare them into not bombing us.
Someone get me to an ER quick.
By JH
July 2, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this
From a post earlier today, I especially enjoyed these.
Our economy is good. Jobs are jobs whether high or low [paying].
All I could think of when I read that was Homer Simpson, saying “D’OH!”.
We are fighting to preserve the country to whom we gave freedom.
The people in Iraq have never chosen freedom. And they are not now nor probably ever will be in anything remotely close to a state of freedom. And that is because a western democracy can’t simply be slipstreamed into a nation that doesn’t want it! If one really believes that one can “give” freedom away, I’ve got some nice real estate to sell you in Sadr City!
An effort to improve education may or may not have worked.
The No Child Left Behind Act, like Goals 2000, is a half-funded attempt that almost encourages schools, districts, and states to manipulate test results. And one of the never spoken aloud, but more sinister aspects of it is the requirement that the schools distribute the name, home phone number and address of every student enrolled to military recruiters. Somebody should just be slapped upside the head for that one or at least rename it The No Child’s Behind Left Untouched by Uncle Sam Act.
Bush tried to improve immigration.
I’m not even going to touch that one.
I can only say that Republican President Bush has been working solely for the benefit of this country.
But apparently not for the benefit of the PEOPLE of this country so much.
By jbmlaw
July 2, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this
Dear Truthsister @ 9:39, I fear you would be disappointed. I am consistently a jerk and a pain in the rear for all who have to deal with me. Either “Ransom of Red Chief,” or the kidnapping scene in “UHF” is closer to what evildoers would have to go through with me.
By Charles
July 2, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this
Lord, I’ve been doing some serious multitasking this morning and afternoon.
I can focus some attention on blogs now.
I feel like the conservative radio commentator who said, “I can defeat my opposition, BS Aplent, RCH, with both hands tied behind my back.”
By BS Aplenty
July 2, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this
Re: Truths (half-witted) Sister
See, you get one, too!! Every fascist addict needs his enablers and you, my dim-to-half-witted sis, will do nicely. Carry on.
By harold
July 2, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this
today harold find the $200 shoes column more relevant than this column
By harold
July 2, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this
but anyway would these cameras be executive branch or legislative branch?
By JK
July 2, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this
Do I feel safer with surveillance cameras? Not especially, no. I’m also feeling kinda vulnerable now that everyone has cameras in their cellphones. Let’s keep the lights OUT, please!! {;->
By time to liquidate all snivelling treasonous liberals
July 2, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this
inbred rednekkk
I was very fleetingly slightly queer in a very limited way when I first came here, in that I admit for almost a week I had a strange mad crush on the then much younger Pelosibitch who I naturally enough thought was transgendered - but your 1997 rather graphic butch cameo on that Aryan Nation homosexual aversion therapy tape I found in the Cobb County library happily permanently put me right off all things queer!!
thanks for that inbred rednekkk … most appreciated - now go crash that beer truck into Barak the lying cut and run magic negro’s GA campaign office - there’s a good dog!!
I have e-mailed MI5 and warned them about Oedipus NAMBLA the psychotic yanKKKee paedophile queen’s supposed impending visit. They cheerily reassured me all it will get is a really good “undulating” (gedditt??) close up back of the head view of Prince Charles’ huge Barak the magic negro like AfriKan elephant ears in a Tower of London Dungeon - until the deportation order is processed.
By PragmaticMan
July 2, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this
There is no all or none with this topic. There are places where cameras are obviously needed if employed as public safety mechanisms. For example at ATM Machines to get very basic. I agree with Wooten in regard to traffic cams. I will never ever agree with cameras that can in any way form or fashion be employed to generate revenue for any municipality. Look what direction the “war on drugs” took when the law started allowing local law enforcement to keep confiscated properties. The whole process became all about what could be seized. Traffic cams fall into this category.
By Charles
July 2, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this
Truth sister,
You must be an accomplished sister. The agent provocateurs can’t stand truth, and they don’t like sister.
They like lies and enemy; thus out of that chaos, order. (The new world order crowd.)
By time for the truth
July 2, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
Posting cameras all over the place? Bloody no I say! This would cause irrepreble harm to me and would limit my income severely!
The Johns I pick up along Peachtree Street and Juniper might be less willing to fork over the funds necessary for my sustainment if they knew a camera was watching our little sexcapade. If I don’t give my pimp $100 a night he beats the crap out of me and reminds me what my bunghole is truly for.
I want my personal privacy, that’s why I left bloody England in the first place (that and the warrants out for me).
By Charles
July 2, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this
I can’t wait until the masses of Americans wake up to the plot of the New World Order crowd attempting to overthrow their country.
When Americans wake up, it’s off to the gallows the new world order crowd (1380 waok radio)goes; just like Saddam Hussein.
www.radioliberty.com www.iotconline.com www.thepatriots.us www.chuckcoppes.com www.freedomadvocates.org www.infowars.com www.deliberatedumbingdown.com www.expendableelite.com
By Charles
July 2, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this
In the name of fighting terror, you have to place cameras in your neighborhood. In the name of terror, you can’t videotape the police.
The new world order crowd is ruthless and they have the will to enslave us. Do we Americans have the will to remain a free people?
www.infowars.com
By time for the truth
July 2, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this
SNIGGER SMIRK SNIGGER
endlessly watching the should have been aborted leftist filth on here childishly and gutlessly stealing ids whilst posting their barely repressed homo obsessed fantasies is enormously amusing. it furnishes irrefutable, categoric proof that they have no answer to one’s pithy sardonic wit and wisdom. thanks for letting me so effortlessly and easily verbally b itchslap you - you craven mutant (almost) humanoid dross
By Charles
July 2, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
Every thing is in place for us to go into marshal law. They are planing to make a move on Americans.
Ron Paul for President 2008—Help for America
www.infowars.com
By RCH
July 2, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this
Charles Quit sniffing that glue. The police are videotaped all the time, including a neighborhood near mine where a speed sign had a video camera attached. Guess who got caught speeding through the neighborhood? Yep the police.
By Quasi-libertarian-neocon-liberal-independent
July 2, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this
Chuck, do Ron Paul a HUGE favor. Don’t ever mention your support for him again. You’re killing his chances that anyone who reads your posts will look at his campaign seriously.
By time for the truth
July 2, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
Charles …
WTF are you moronically trying and abysmally FAILING to repeatedly say on here? Your endless imbecilic drool merely provides buffoonish textual buffers between the usual daily should have been aborted liberal lies/abuse/rants/homosexual obsession.
You urgently need to either get at least a partial refund off your dealer, sue him/her for wilful deformation of character and peddling tainted merchandise or quietly ask maggot brain for the name of the clinic where its had all NINE hate America lobotomies done.
By PragmaticMan
July 2, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
Does anyone else here remember the infamous vegan/Honey Baked Ham protest? That is a prime example of government run amok and what this country seems to be headed for. There we had 2 nuts protesting pork and being surveilled by a blacked out cop car belonging to the “Dekalb County Department of Homeland Security” (gimme a break). Now if that incident didn’t perfectly illustrate just what happens when a country gets so damned scared that it goes off the deep end, what else does?
By Dusty
July 2, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this
Well,
it has been an interesting day and I do appreciate the gracious goodbye of MidSouth Philosopher, the kind of fellow you can enjoy fussin’ with.
And AquaGirl—ooohhh she almost… err kinda… errr tried… err lil bit…. errr sorta… agreed with me on one line. Whz ths wrld kumin’ to???
Gone for the day. Keep those cameras rolling..
By Charles
July 2, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this
I know some of these AJC bloggers are saddened because they can’t engage me in meaningless conversation like they do some people.
That is so sophomoric. They do it all the time of 1380 waok radio. There must be a nexus between AJC bloggers and 1380 waok radio.
They have agent provocateurs in all areas of people activity; wherever volumes of people are located.
By Charles
July 2, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this
Three percent of Americans started the American Revolution and five percent of Americans won the war.
www.infowars.com
By Truths Sister
July 2, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
TFTTTT have you gone mad (der)? What is this?! Why are you agreeing with these slimy liberal types? Does Truths Sister have b#tch slap Truth to get him back on the right track? Does Truths Sister have to b#tch slap him?
By Charles
July 2, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this
Bringing you the Story behind the Story, the News behind the News. Hoping to convince you that reality is usually scoffed at and illusion is usually king, but in the battle for the survival of Western civilization it will be reality and not illusion or delusion that will determine what the future will bring.
Radio Liberty is hosted by Dr. Stanley Monteith.
www.radioliberty.com
By Truths Sister
July 2, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
Dear Truthsister @ 9:39, I fear you would be disappointed. I am consistently a jerk and a pain in the rear for all who have to deal with me.
Probably the most sincere, truthful, insightful,and most brilliant thing that you have ever said on this blog. I’m so proud that you’ve finally taken that first step! Self awareness is the key.
By Charles
July 2, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
Americans are four hundred times more likely to be killed in an automobile accident than a terrorist attack.
We don’t need surveillance cameras.
By In other words
July 2, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this
Americans are four hundred times more likely to be killed in an automobile accident than a terrorist attack. We don’t need surveillance cameras.
So what we DON’T need is roads and cars?
By Charles
July 2, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this
I took a cursory look at the blogs and needless to say my comments stand head and shoulders over the agent provocateurs.
The truth is always stronger than a lie. Good ultimately triumphs over evil; even if it’s written on paper.
Take a look for yourself.
www.radioliberty.com www.iotconline.com www.thepatriots.us www.chuckcoppes.com www.freedomadvocates.org www.infowars.com www.deliberatedumbingdown.com www.expendableelite.com
Take a look for yourself.
By Charles
July 2, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this
Look at comment @3:04 pm. I rest my case.
By In other words
July 2, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this
Americans are twenty three thousand times more likely to be killed by a terrorist than by a meteorite.
We don’t need telescopes.
By Charles
July 2, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
Satan had me bound, but Jesus lifted me. Satan had me bound, but Jesus lifted me. Satan had me bound but Jesus lifted me.
Glory Hallelujah, Jesus lifted me.
www.americandeception.comwww.worldaffairsbrief.comwww.gregpalast.com www.ccir.net www.williamhkennedy.com www.patholiday.comwww.thepowerhour.comwww.jerryesmith.com www.dickmorris.com
By In other words
July 2, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this
Americans are forty six times more likely to be eaten by a shark than killed by a terrorist.
We don’t need swim trunks.
By time for the truth
July 2, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this
Charles
I’m typing extremely slowly now for your (seemingly) more witless than even a cowardly leftist cut and run ultra dumb arse…
S T F U
By Charles
July 2, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this
Let’s compare apples with apples and oranges with oranges. What organization fired the meteorite at Americans, Hezbollah?
Obviously we have moved from the sublime to the ridiculous.
By jm
July 2, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
Charles - to quote Mark Twain: “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.” Comparing the odds of a terrorist attack and the odds of an automobile accident is nothing more than a meaningless use of statistics.
I am not a big fan of cameras either for preventing terrorism (for other uses, maybe but not terrorism).
By In other words
July 2, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
Let’s compare apples with oranges and oranges with apples. What terrorist attack caused American automobile accidents, Hezbollah?
Obviously we have moved from the ridiculous to the sublime.
By Charles
July 2, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this
I wonder what got by time for the truth upset. I think I know.
I’m so glad, that Jesus lifted me. I’m so glad, that Jesus lifted me. I’m so glad, that Jesus lifted me. Glory Hallelujah, Jesus lifted me.
Christians, do you see the power you have over evil spirits. They can’t bear the wonderful name of Jesus.
By time for the truth
July 2, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
surely it is imperative that America attack Hizbollocks with semtex laden apples and oranges - as well as napalm and a judicious - month long at least -carpet bombing of the terrorist areas of the arab snakepit Gaza.
By Charles
July 2, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this
I can’t believe jm agrees with me in regard to cameras not being used to counter terrorism. Yet he disagrees with me pertaining to statistics.
Since jm agrees with me on the important issue, I’m not going to argue the point in regard to statistics.
By GOP leftist in deep doo doo
July 2, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA - TOO FUNNY!!
John McKennedy of AZ is almost out of money and is firing most of his campaign staff and drastically reducing the wages of the remaining idiots!! McKennedy’s rabid advocacy of the illegal leeches amnesty bill and various other leftist outrages have meant that this arrogant snotty tosspot is all but finished with hsi pointless vainglorious campaign for the presidency. Take the hint Johnny boy and quietly bugger off now!!
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8Q4K8E80&show_article=1
@ Charles the nutjob
I aint upset bubba - just enjoying gently sneering at your usual deranged drivel.
By Charles
July 2, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
My God, I feel good today. I hope the Holy Ghost doesn’t descend upon me like a dove while at work. You know what that could mean.
Can’t nobody, do me like Jesus. Can’t nobody, do me like the Lord. Can’t nobody, do me like Jesus, he is our friend.
Pastor Warnock, he heal my body, and told me to run on. Healed my body and told me to run on. He healed my body, and told me to run on. He is our friend.
I’ve got to leave this alone everybody. We are about to have Church up in here, and get some of those avowed sinners out there save, sanctified, and filled with the Holy Ghost.
www.radioliberty.com www.iotconline.com www.thepatriots.us www.chuckcoppes.com www.freedomadvocates.org www.infowars.com www.deliberatedumbingdown.com www.expendableelite.com
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
July 2, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
The redneck is a fear-based invertebrate, with a big yellow stripe down down its back. It is scared of everything and anything. Osama bin Laden knew this about the scum that elected George Dumbya Bush - since his desperate crimes of 9/11, he has many of the people of the greatest nation in the world cowered and crazy with fear; lathered in an impotent rage (today is Day 2119 of Where’s Osama?) and crying in frustration and fear.
Lord, the redneck is one of Your lower life forms. Evolve him quickly to save Us from his fear and treachery. In Your Son’s Name We pray. Amen.
By Conchita
July 2, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
Oh no! Does this mean that N.O. won’t be a chocolate city anymore?
By Charles
July 2, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
I can sense the moment that Satan betrays his subjects. Pay attention to what the bloggers write now. Some make a vulgar, futile attempt to show resistance or vanish in the wind.
By Dee
July 2, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this
Charles, Dee thinks you’re crazy. Dee thinks you are as crazy as a loon. Dee thinks that maybe you need stronger medication because what you’re currently taking obviously isn’t doing the trick. Dee also thinks that perhaps instead of calling on the lord at your job, you should be calling on the nearest psych ward.
Dee thinks that the little white men in the little white coats will be there to get you by the end of the day. Dee hopes you seek serious help, because Dee feels that you are a genuinely nice person; just crazy as a loon.
Just some thoughts from Dee.
By Charles
July 2, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
For thee, or Lord a cross I’ll bear. And I’ll go anytime, anywhere. God I’ll be true, give me work to do. And I’ll go all the way for you.
Use me Lord. Use me for thy Glory. Use me Lord. Help me tell life’s story. Make my will obey, and I’ll go all the way. Use me oh Lord, I pray.
Not for name, not for fame, that the world might see. But the glory belongs to thee, in my heart I yearn, thy love to return, for thee oh Lord, the fire burns.
www.radioliberty.com
By death to racist yanKKKee dogsqueeze
July 2, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this
The treasonous perverted yanKKKee paedophile is a vile sick plague carrying rodent with cut and run hate America DNA in its fetid bloated belly and maxine waters sized ritalin addicted brain. Such perfidious yanKKKee rodents need to be mercilessly exterminated wherever they scurry. Gassing these scum is a good start, burning them out of their cesspit yanKKKee homes is another sensible pragmatic vermin control measure. But the very best way to rid the world of yanKKKee human scum is to drop carefully targeted battlefield nukes on ALL liberal/yankkkee states and sit and enjoy the aftermath on Fox News with some extra butter freshly popped popcorn.
By Charles
July 2, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this
Well everybody,
It’s about that magic hour again. It’s time to go home. Five o’clock is quitting time for me.
I’ve given a gallant effort at work today and I know the boss will say, well done thy good and faithful employee.
You all, in the vernacular of the church, get me happy. I loved reading all of the comments but as you can expect didn’t agree with some.
I’ll talk to you tomorrow; God willing.
By charles is a rabid nutter
July 2, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this
Charles
the Lord needs you to be burned at the stake tonight - as a test of your undying (pun intended) faith. Shall we say about 7 pm just after Brit Hume in Mariett Square.
By charles is a rabid nutter
July 2, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this
Charles
the Lord needs you to be burned at the stake tonight - as a test of your undying (pun intended) faith. Shall we say about 7 pm just after Brit Hume in Marietta Square.
By gimme a bug light
July 2, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this
This Wooten blog draws in the wackos like a bug light draws mosquitos.
By SCOOTER LIBBY IS FREE!!!
July 2, 2007 7:16 PM | Link to this
At long last Bush finally does the right honourable thing and (albeit only partially) pardons Libby. He should have wiped the slate completely clean … no fine, no probation. But a weak pandering to leeches president is running skeered of the leftist filth so the weak response to this despicable lynching will have to suffice.
I am really looking forward to the endless hysterical screeching from the treasonous hateful leftists at this glorious, albeit sensible news. Plame and Wilson deserve jail time for lying - they deserve utter life long scorn for their corrupt venal lies and their irrational anti-Bush hate.
CONGRATS TO SCOOTER at this timely and honourable natural justice.