Thinking Right

By harold

June 20, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

uh, dont you have to have a chance of winning to get spoiled by somebody?

the Rs have absolutely no chance of winning, so an ex-R is no spoiler

By DebbieDoRight

June 20, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

Uh oh. It’s finally happened…. Wooten has BORED everyone to death with his column. Sigh.

Poor, poor Mr. Wooten — I guess dementia is looking better and better everday huh?

Outsource Wooten’s Column to Somalia!!! (India has enough jobs).

By harold

June 20, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

people with vested interests in keeping the existing power structure intact will tell you a 3rd party vote is a wasted vote

the only wasted vote is a vote for anybody other than the candidate you want to win

if you vote for a D or an R because you think nobody else can win, you YOURSELF are ensuring nobody else wins

if it frustrates you that nobody else can win, look in the mirror and make sure you are not voting against anybody else winning

if you only vote for the guy who fits into the existing scheme of things, you only vote for the existing scheme of things to stick around

eliminate Rs and Ds from your possible votes today. then you vote for change. keep voting for change for your whole life. even if a nonRnonD never wins, your vote for change changes the Rs and the Ds when they get “spoiled.”

(how does this guy get paid to write this garbage???)

By harold

June 20, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight Is Right

this column has got boring beyond words

harold is gonna hate on the aquarium instead

we need to turn the aquarium into a gay bar

the only question is, do we name it Free Willy or the Georgia Queerium?

By jm

June 20, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this

Of course Mr. Wooten conveniently overlooks the influence a third party candidate, Ralph Nader, during the 2000 election. That influence allowed W the incompetent to enter the whitehouse despite losing the popular election by approximately 500,000 votes.

Maybe Mr. Bloomberg, like Mr. Perot before him will move the debate away from sound bites onto real issues. Of course, the republican attack machine will likely try to paint Mr. Bloomberg as a nutjob, much like they did Mr. Perot during the 2004 election.

By jbmlaw

June 20, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this

Good morning all, seemingly distress on all fronts. Harold and Debbie threatening to go elsewhere to spread their wisdom. And now Bloomberg threatening to divide the leftist vote; alas, how on earth can Fred possibly win Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, New Mexico, and Virginia if Bloomberg and Hillary split the moderate and leftist vote? Grim, grim day, so sad.

By Dusty

June 20, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

What’s boring to liberals this morning is the fact that Republicans are winning elections. Also not too exciting to them is the fact that the Democratic led Congress of the USA is dropping in approval like a rock in a pond.

Ho hum, that is so boring, isn’t it? Whatsa matter? No good news in the DNC instruction sheet today?

Poor ol’ jm is still “riled up” over the 2000 election. Time to get over it, jm, ‘cause 2008 elections ar going to make you angry and really bored at losing AGAIN.

By sour grapes

June 20, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

What a bunch of sour grapes. I remember Republicans basking in the afterglow post Joe Lieberman’s switch from Democrat to Independant back in 2006.

What a ridiculous statement from self-important Wooten where he blames his vote for Ellis Arnall in 1966 for the election of segregationist Lester Maddox. Georgia got just what they wanted.

By Southern Democrat

June 20, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Thank you for demonstrating exactly the political failure and fanaticism that Mayor Bloomberg hopes to overcome by becoming an independent.

By melo

June 20, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

Michael Bloomberg,…..2001, announced Tuesday that he’s leaving both partiesHow can he leave the Democratic party when he is not in it?!!!

WRONG AND A LIE. He is leaving the REPUGNANT PARTY, NOT BOTH PARTIES.

U such a lier WOOTANG,Goodness.

Everybody is running away from your party and George Bush, even those running on the right. Smelly REPUGNANT Party.

By Van

June 20, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

harold,

I have to disagree with you, the only wasted vote is the one not cast.

If anyone is so discussed with the current crop of bouncing heads, what does that say about the folks WE elect, support and give money to?

Personally, I always thought Bloomberg was a nut case, from day one.

Regarding the election in the 10th, it appears the immigration issue might pull more votes than the war on terror - interesting. It also seemed to hold true for the State Senate seat, Jackson won.

So either the lefties are not that mainstream or there are a lot more right wingnuts than they thought.

By harold

June 20, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this

Lester the Segregationist Maddox

Heh

What is Sonny doing with his antiMexican crap?

He is just as segregationist as Lester was!

Georgia will be Georgia.

By jbmlaw

June 20, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Southern – my real hypothesis, Bloomberg is really running for Dem vp - a “bring us together” candidacy - or as a Dem contingency in the event the “dump Hillary” movement gathers steam. What think ye?

By GodHatesTrash

June 20, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

The reason Lester Maddox, racist kkklown extraordinaire, was Guvnuh of Georgia was because the racist kkklowns of Georgia supported him, pure and simple.

It’s very simple Jim - trash selects trash leadership. Zell Miller - trash. Goobernor Sonny - trash. Saxby Chickenhawk Chambliss - trash. Let’s leave the buffoons like Westmoreland, Gingrey, Norwood, etc. out of it.

Take out the garbage - disenfranchise Georgia rednecks - and then you’ll have decent government.

By harold

June 20, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

of course Democratic led Congress of the USA is dropping in approval like a rock in a pond.

that was the iraq war plan the whole time: tread water until we can blame the democrats

this is why the Rs intentionally lost congress, so they could blame the democrats

rember all that stuff that “happened’ to come out immeidatlye before congressioanl eelections? the meth using gay w******* buying preacher and all that? it was obvious the Rs wanted out so they could escape blame

By DebbieDoRight

June 20, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

we need to turn the aquarium into a gay bar the only question is, do we name it Free Willy or the Georgia Queerium?

HA! How about the “Big Fish” bar (Lesbian bar) or “The Whale Riders” (Gay Bar) or how about “Tropical Tranny’s” (Trans bar), or the “Blue Dolphins” (Republicans in the closet, hiding out; color of their ball…).

By getalife

June 20, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

Bloomberg said this country is in trouble and :

“There are lots of threats to you in the world. There’s the threat of a heart attack for genetic reasons. You can’t sit there and worry about everything. Get a life”

Telling the truth is not towing the gop party line so he left.

Any politician choosing country over party should follow his lead.

The reason this country is in trouble is the gop and w. Period.

By DebbieDoRight

June 20, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

What’s boring to liberals this morning is the fact that Republicans are winning elections.

WHAT elections? Were there elections, held nationwide recently?

Also not too exciting to them is the fact that the Democratic led Congress of the USA is dropping in approval like a rock in a pond.

That’s true. The Dems are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. If they impeach Bush and Cheney they’ll be called “obstructionists” if they don’t they’re labeled “cowards”. If they say you don’t have even a smidgen of a plan and have never had one so pull out of Iraq NOW, they’re “cut and runners” if they say let’s wait for the newest war “czar’s” report on Iraq, we’ll give Dumbya his war money; but let’s wait and see if his “surge” will really work, they’re called “balless wonders”.

The only thing more contradictory is Dusty’s Mexicans and Hip Hop Culture rants. (you know, per Dusty, those people are the ones who started dog fights and c** fights in the US)

By sour grapes

June 20, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

Another example of Bloomberg telling it like it is and thereby appealing to independents:

He told the US Senate Judiciary Committee Field Hearing on Federal Immigration Legislation on 5 July 2006: “It is as if we expect border control agents to do what a century of communism could not: Defeat the natural forces of supply and demand and defeat the natural human instinct for freedom and opportunity. You might as well sit on the beach and tell the tide not to come in.”

By harold

June 20, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

republicans are in the lead in the republican primary! or are they???

By getalife

June 20, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

crusty the clown,

“The thumpin” of 06 is the latest landslide that will continue in 08.

We will see how patriotic you really are when a Dem goes after OBL.

Wag the dog again?

Fake patriot.

By getalife

June 20, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

Need to Ask Rudy if that coke his worker was busted with was for him.

By Jeff

June 20, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Bloomberg switches parties and this is NEWS????

Who gives a rat’s tail about NYC? As the old Hank Jr. Song says, “send me to Hell or New York City, it would be about the same to me!”

The real news is that in many circles, Ron Paul is beating the vaunted Rudy Guliani!!

I aint seen much about Freddy Boy, but Rudy McRomney ain’t got a chance at my vote… and ANYBODY the Dems put up has even LESS of a chance!

By mark

June 20, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

How ‘bout a ticket with Al Gore and Michael Bloomberg. Bring some sense, honesty and dignity back to the White House after the dishonest, incompetent Bush and his cronies.

Gore/Bloomberg ‘08!

By Southern Democrat

June 20, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

Good morning to you, Jbmlaw.

I would hope that a pro-business, environmentalist, balanced budget, pro-civil rights candidate would be welcomed with open arms by the Dems.

I think he has a much stronger chance with the Dems than the GOP because family values and nat’l security tend to be key issues for GOP voters and he is not very experienced/strong in either.

The Dem primary is tough to call… Hillary & Obama are trying to be very careful not to beat each other up too badly… Edwards (who lost my vote at the hairdresser) is waiting and hoping that Gore stays out, Biden is gaining ground, but not enough to be a threat, and Richardson continues to make himself less relevant. The rest are for show.

A Bloomberg V.P. only makes sense to Obama (perceived by many moderates as too liberal), Richardson or Edwards… he can’t run with Hillary (2 adopted-NY pols?) or Biden.

By I have Bush's Watch

June 20, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

Jim how about a column on Mayor Franklin’s Brand Atlanta campaign. Remember that stupid “Every day is Opening Day” slogan? And the stupid song that went with it.

The city just agreed to spend 4 million dollars of taxpayer money on this dumb program. (Wasn’t it going to be financed through private funds???)

They also just hired an executive director at $160,000 a year!!! OUTRAGEOUS!!

Or maybe since the new executive director happens to be the wife of AJC Metro editor Bert Roughton you have decided that the story is off limits.

Hey Dennis, you’re right!! Jim is a cherry picker!

By time for the truth

June 20, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

So the increasingly noxious crackpipe debbieturd predicktably returns to puke up yet more of its unhinged anti-Wooten hate. Funny how this vile black racebaitingbitch “missed” the Duke lynching blog the other day where the despicable antics of its stripper ‘soul sistah’ lied and lied and lied about three innocent white lads who were nearly lynched by crackpipe’s heroic hate crime corrupt demoNcrats.

Then we have the queer as a coot harold feverishly mincing and swishing about its fellow poofs - go ride tandem harold with a transexual d ike on a bike (geddit??)

Watching these worthless hypocritical lefties on here sneering at poofs and queers and d ikes is freaking hilarious. Bet their leftie bum chums would pitch a Tokyo Rosie O’beseD ike fit if they saw their flagrant hypocritical hate speech against shirtlifters and carpetmunchers.

Hilariously the VT child molestor Mrs JM Karr is still obsessively resentfully railing against being run out of GA by the GBI at gunpoint. Get over it rednekkks NAMBLA - mutated human scum like you deserve to be back in yankkkee land!!

Bloomberg is what we call an abjectly sad k *nt in England. This ultra self absorbed narcissistic primadonna is only concerned with itself. It has now slithered from being a demoNcrat to a GOPer to now being ‘independent’. It has NO core convictions, no moral or political compass - it just blows like the ever nasal whining wind up in HiTllary lovin’ cut and run New Yaaawk City - trying to find a way to perpetrate its often vile, ever moderate agenda. Hopefully it will p!ss away much of its fortune on a failed run for the now increasingly dingy, off white White House. I just fear this smug, forever preening itself moderate bastard will puke up numerous vainglorious bland ads which will invade my plasma TV screen - moveyourbowels.org style.

Should it run the Bloombugger will likely snort up a load of demoNcrat votes from those outraged by the party of hate’s gleeful robotic lurch to the treasonous cut and run far left. It may also get some equally repugnant moderate votes - from the kind of snivelling moderate morons who don’t ever really bother with the issues but sheeple like vote for something that doesn’t ever challenge their witless unsophisticated (largely uninformed) timid need for the status quo.

By Dusty

June 20, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Southern Democrat 9:23,

Poor baby!! Democrats are all lil’ angels and Republicans are “fanatics”. How sweet it is, ‘specially when the lil’ angels are losing..

DebbieDoRight 9:48

How about reading Jim Wooten’s last paragraph? He mentions Republicans getting votes. Guess you sorta skimmed over that part in your haste to “knock” his editorial. Figures..

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

June 20, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Hi Jim,

Yep. Been there, done that.

You’re right. We should only have two choices. Ever. That’s plenty. No alternatives. The two party system is working great. Everyone is working together swimmingly. After all, they’ve all been bought by corporate America, so why shouldn’t they get along?

Choose from these two options, you suckers. If you don’t like it, leave.

Nobody get out of that box!

By Joe

June 20, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

I think Newt is right, the third world war has begun. Hopefully more and more will open the book. I’ve read the last chapter and the HERO is on his way. Observe what’s happening, observe and observe some more.

By time for the truth

June 20, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Yet more witless blinkered global whining bollocks. This time the animistic fruitcake idiocy of the ‘red indians’ is conjured up. WTF is “Earth Mother” FFS!!

Clearly Talking Hawk - see below - is talking bollocks (gedditt??).

‘Earth Mother getting angry’

From New Hampshire to California, American Indian leaders are speaking out more forcefully about the danger of climate change.

Members of six tribes recently gathered near the Baker River in the White Mountains for a sacred ceremony honoring “Earth Mother.” Talking Hawk, a Mohawk Indian who asked to be identified by his Indian name, pointed to the river’s tea-colored water as proof that the overwhelming amount of pollution humans have produced has caused changes around the globe.

“It’s August color. It’s not normal,” he said.

“Earth Mother is fighting back - not only from the four winds, but also from underneath,” he said. “Scientists call it global warming. We call it Earth Mother getting angry.”

At a United Nations meeting last month, several American Indian leaders spoke at a session called “Indigenous Perspectives on Climate Change.” Also in May, tribal representatives from Alaska and northern Canada - where pack ice has vanished earlier and earlier each spring - traveled to Washington to press their case.

—-ADVERTISEMENT—-

In California, Minnesota, New Mexico, and elsewhere, tribes have used some of their casino profits to start alternative or renewable energy projects, including biomass-fueled power plants. In New Hampshire, where American Indians have become integrated in the broader society, some have questioned the effect of local development. Jan Osgood, an Abenaki Indian who lives in Lincoln, said she worries about several proposals that would clear acres of national forest on Loon Mountain for luxury homes.

“It breaks my heart,” said Osgood, who attended the sacred ceremony.

She approached Ted Sutton, Lincoln’s town manager, and gave him a collection of writings by North American Indians detailing the history of the U.S. government’s unfulfilled promises to their trips.

After reading the book, Sutton said he agrees with the American Indian philosophy of life: Use nature respectfully, never taking more than is needed.

“American Natives have been telling us all along that this was going to happen to the earth,” Sutton said. “They were telling us hundreds of years ago that what we were doing (to the environment) would come back and haunt us. They have been proven right. But hopefully we’ve started to listen to them and move back to some better management of our lives.”

Those who study American Indian culture believe their presence in the debate could be influential. They point to “The Crying Indian,” one of the country’s most influential public-service TV ads.

In the spot, actor Iron Eyes Cody, in a buckskin suit, paddles a canoe up a trash-strewn urban creek and then stands by a busy highway cluttered with litter. The ad, which aired in the 1970s, ends with a close-up of Cody, shedding a single tear after a passing motorist throws trash at his feet.

“Within the last six months, there’s just been a loss of faith in the insistence (by some politicians) that global warming isn’t happening and that we have nothing to do with it,” said Shepard Krech III, an anthropology and environmental studies professor at Brown University.

Krech is the author of The Ecological Indian, which examines the relationship between American Indians and nature.

Though many people will look for “a consensus in the scientific community” to convince them of climate change, Krech said, others will seek “perspectives from Indian society… . Native Americans have a rich tradition that springs from this belief they have always been close to the land and always treated the land well.”

The New Hampshire ceremony was attended by members of the Passamaquoddy, Mohawk, Blackfoot, Micmac, Lakota Sioux and Abenaki tribes.

Thunderbull, a Lakota Sioux, offered a prayer for people who had suffered from recent flooding in the Midwest. Talking Hawk prayed for those who would suffer from natural disasters ahead.

“Think of the people who will die in the cleansing of Earth Mother, all around the world,” he said. “Think of their spirits.”

By Jackie

June 20, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Mr. Bloomberg is a very intelligent man, therefore, he has figured out a way to get out of the path of the political landslide that will occur in ‘08. The thumping the Repubs’ took in ‘06 will be tame compared to the one that will be inflicted upon them in ‘08. All Repubs’ need to start collecting their survival supplies as you will be stranded in the political wilderness like you supported the stranding of the Katrina victims.

By jm

June 20, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Dusty - I actually hope a republican wins in 2008 - they deserve the mess that W the incompetent is going to leave behind.

By DJ

June 20, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

Uh-oh. Another RIGHT-WING APOLOGIST.

It must be so easy to sit on the sidelines and pontificate about what other people do. Pushing a popular (though questionable) political ideology, essentially for money, is not really making much of a contribution. Jim, you love to parrot the party line because it’s easy and “it sells” (at least to the dipped-in-the-kool-aid ideologues who can’t think for themselves). The fact remains that if Bloomberg stayed a republican “in name”, and if he had a commanding lead in the poles and then won the general election, Jim “I never met a right wing extreamist that I didn’t like better then the most thoughful, pragmatic left winger” Wooton would be jumping on the bandwagon, proclaiming Bloomberg the be the greatest thing since sliced bread, and boy oh boy are we lucky that he beat “that democrat” (whomever it may be).

Talk about being a spineless, ideological opportunist. Way to go Jim. Oh - and make sure to oversimplify everything so your god-guns-and-guts fanboys can understand what it is you are trying to tell them to think.

By Van

June 20, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

I see the nutty libs are out in force today.

Personally, I see no announced candidate that resonates with me. Mike Huckabee comes in close, but I fear some resentment for the state that brought us Billy Boy. I do think we need to give Hope a second chance.

I do not think much of the democrats at all. If they folded on having a debate sponsored in part by the Black Caucus and Fox News Network, how tough will they be to any real threat. I guess they will swing their purses at each other.

Regarding 3rd party “spoilers”. So what! Some of our better politicians ran on a third party ticket. Teddy Roosevelt try to get reelected on the Bull Moose ticket.

If we look at politics through the len of emotions, we are all doomed. Folks, think about all aspects of each person running - no one will meet all your expectations. Just vote for the person that meets that criteria best.

By DebbieDoRight

June 20, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight 9:48 How about reading Jim Wooten’s last paragraph? He mentions Republicans getting votes. Guess you sorta skimmed over that part in your haste to “knock” his editorial.

Dusty, I was responding to YOUR comment about “Republicans winning elections”, remember….the one you made?…..Hellooooo…….. yooo hooo….anybody home…… Hmmm

The lights are on but I guess Dusty went outside for a while……

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Here’s a picture of TFTT’s beloved guru in his natural state….

And here’s another of TFTT in his ummm its natural state

PS: I couldn’t find one of two jackasses…..

By getalife

June 20, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

Well, stay at home then Van.

Your party has destroyed this country

Geez.

By spaceman109

June 20, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

i really cannot see that bloomberg possibly being in the race will make any difference in the long run. the congress and bureaucrats will continue to be under 100 percent ownership of the corporate fat cats and will obey the orders of said fat cats in order to aviod facing stiff primary opposition in the next election.

yawn

By CJ

June 20, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

Three points in response to Jim’s comments:

By Van

June 20, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

getalife,

And what have the democrats done lately?

Amnesty for Illegals Cut and run in Iraq Welfare state tax increases over regulation controls on free speech Ted Kennedy Harry Reid and his 4 family lobbyist(3 sons and one son-in-law) Hillary and the mysterious Rose law firm billing records

geez, give me a break!

By jbmlaw

June 20, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Dear Southern @ 10:25, thanks, great analysis, that all makes sense.

Dear TFTT @ 11:22, hope you saw Taranto’s laugh on the same subject yesterday, right after his “Bloomberg Insult” essay.

By libotomize libs

June 20, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

Contrary to Republican folklore, Clinton would have won without any help from Perot in ‘92 (for the record, I voted for Perot). - All who believe that comment by CJ raise your hands. Bush acted like a Dem and raised taxes, and that hacked off a lot of republicans and libertarians I knew at the time. At the same time, everyone I knew would still have voted for Bush senior over Bill Clinton if it were down to those two.

Van - ask getalife why Dems have a 74% disapproval rating.

By Aquagirl

June 20, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

What’s boring to liberals this morning is the fact that Republicans are winning elections

Don’t bother Debbie, it was a crack week for Dusty in the recent national elections. She studiously ignores them since they collide with her reality, where Shrub is the object of slavish obedience.

I guess it’s preening over the election yesterday in the 10th district. Yes, the nation has spoken via a special election held to replace a dead guy in a district full of yayhoos. It’s a Republican district, a Republican getting the majority of the votes isn’t a shocker to anyone but the brain-damaged.

Unnoticed in Dusty’s craftful internal analysis, the Repubs couldn’t even get together enough to settle on one candidate. The campaigning was a preview of what’s sinking the Republicans—-illegal immigration.

Cling to that last bit of wood from the sinking ship, Dusty.

And geez, someone get Jim some antidepressants. He seems to have given up on Democracy and decided to vote for whatever tripe he is offered by his masters. Admirable stand there, Jim.

By BS Aplenty (Lock & Load Version)

June 20, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoneRight

Debbie, Debbie, Debbie - where did the gods go wrong with you…oh, for a picture of two jackasses just check your old prom pictures - you know the one with you and that lesbian chick…

By SusieHomeMaker

June 20, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Amnesty for Illegals Cut and run in Iraq Welfare state tax increases over regulation controls on free speech…..

Van, oh how you LOVE to rewrite history!! The Immigration Bill going through Congress has the support of both republicans and democrats. Also you Commander in Chief Dumbya!!! Did you forget that fact?

The controls on free speech belong, yet again to the Republican Party, who vehemently and agressively go after anyone who asks these two simple questions of the Bush Administration: Why and Can You Explain — for some reason those two questions are like kryptonite to Republicans.

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Lib Libs: Bush acted like a Dem and raised taxes, and that hacked off a lot of republicans and libertarians I knew at the time. At the same time, everyone I knew would still have voted for Bush senior over Bill Clinton if it were down to those two.

Then how can you explain his second inaguaration as President? Bad Hair Day?

By DebbieDoRight

June 20, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

And geez, someone get Jim some antidepressants. He seems to have given up on Democracy and decided to vote for whatever tripe he is offered by his masters

LMAO!!! Too Funny!!!

By Redneck Convert

June 20, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

This Bloomberg guy is nothing but a librul. Everybody up north is a librul. They don’t have good raising. They miss out on blackeye peas and grits and redeye gravy and all the fine things of life. They even think Those People are OK to be around.

Give me Sonny and Saxby and Johnny and other real Americans. Not some namby-pamby guy that don’t like the death penalty and wants to give our tax money to a bunch of bums and their kids.

Take this GodHatesTrash guy as a example of bad raising. He calls good GA rednecks all kind of names and makes fun of our GA values. He makes out we have relations with our sisters and such. He needs to be banned from this blog. He don’t agree with any real American values. Bad raising.

Anyway, I’m in a real pickle about who to vote for. This Romney guy sounds good now but he is a flip-flopper and a heathen Mormon besides. McCain has turned into a librul. Wanting to make wetbacks real Americans that take our jobs. And this Giuliani might as well be a Democrat, what with his support of abortion and gun control and such. Maybe this Thompson guy will be all right. He sure does act good on TV, and that’s what a politician has to do.

All I got to say is if Wooten can’t do no better than today’s column he may as well hang it up. He done got too old if all he can write about is some librul that has been a burden to the good Republican party people for years. You would never get a decent war started with him as president and they would have to put away the needle and start coddling prisoners.

By getalife

June 20, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Van,

“Shamnesty” and the Iraq occupation issues have date raped we, the people.

We say no but they do it anyway.

Ethics in Washington was destroyed with Tom DeLay’s K Street project. From paying family members on campaigns to passing out checks on the floor by Boner from tobacco companies.

Bloomberg is right, were are in trouble and our government is corrupt with a legal bribery system. Nothing gets done unless special interests wants it done.

If you watch C Span, you can see this play out.

The Dems do not have the votes to overide a veto. The reality is the gop is not compromising. So, they vote along party lines and nothing gets done.

By DJ

June 20, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

“Hillary and the mysterious Rose law firm billing records”

You’ve got to be kidding - what is that - a 15 year old issue?. You right wingers are the masters of obfuscation and distructive character assassination. You are concerned about Hillary because of a 15 year old issue but you have your heads in the sand (or maybe somewhere else) abuot what an utter and complete disaster the current neo-con love-fest has been. Worst administration in U.S. history by a lot. That’s what you get when you elect ZELOTS and IDEOLOGUES instead of people who can think and respond to the changing landscape of world affairs. SHRUB wouldn’t listen to someone telling him his pants were on fire if it were a democrate delivering the news. But if a republican told him his pants were a really nice shade of orange, he’d be all happy and ‘loyal’ and he’d give the guy an ambassadorship or make him a federal prosecutor or something (while his pants burn off him). Now that’s leadership.

By DebbieDoRight

June 20, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

BS Aplenty:

Your name speaks for itself. Just by your name (BS Aplenty), I can tell you’re a Republican. They sure do LOVE to hand out lots of BS. A plenty.

By DJ

June 20, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

“Hillary and the mysterious Rose law firm billing records”

You’ve got to be kidding - what is that - a 15 year old issue?. You right wingers are the masters of obfuscation and distructive character assassination. You are concerned about Hillary because of a 15 year old issue but you have your heads in the sand (or maybe somewhere else) abuot what an utter and complete disaster the current neo-con love-fest has been. Worst administration in U.S. history by a lot. That’s what you get when you elect ZELOTS and IDEOLOGUES instead of people who can think and respond to the changing landscape of world affairs. SHRUB wouldn’t listen to someone telling him his pants were on fire if it were a democrate delivering the news. But if a republican told him his pants were a really nice shade of orange, he’d be all happy and ‘loyal’ and he’d give the guy an ambassadorship or make him a federal prosecutor or something (while his pants burn off him). Now that’s leadership.

By van's a nose picker

June 20, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Van. And what about Wilbur Mills? He was a Democrat and look what he did!

By JK

June 20, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

DJ, they attack Hillary with a decades-old issue about her former law firm, and with conjecture about her motives, intentions, and thoughts (they read them in Hannity’s crystal ball) because they have nothing else. If they had something TANGIBLE, CURRENT, and PERTINENT with which to attack her, wouldn’t they use that instead? As they don’t, you’ll hear lots more “Well, she just wants to [insert speculative, vague, cliche of doom] ….” They’ve never actually listened to her speak or posit on anything, nor studied the record of her performance as a [popular with her constituents] Senator, so they gather spitballs from FOX “news” and talk radio to spew instead of substance. They got nuthin’.

By RCH

June 20, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

JK O.K., How about her statement at the DNC Winter meeting that she would take away oil profits and use it for a domestic energy fund. Sounded reminiscent of those made in recent weeks by Hugo Chavez instead of an American elected official.

By getalife

June 20, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

“House Democrats avoided a full-scale meltdown over their top domestic priority Monday when Speaker Nancy Pelosi forced Michigan Rep. John D. Dingell to shelve most of an energy bill that amounted to a slag heap of special-interest favors for the auto, coal and utility industries.”

See what I am talking about Van.

By getalife

June 20, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

RCH,

She is talking about the subsidies our government pays to big oil even though they broke record profits.

By jbmlaw

June 20, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Dear Susie @ 12:59, while I fundamentally agree with you – the Horndog would have been elected in a two man race both times – in fact Perot ran as third party in both elections. Bill never received as much as 50% of the vote, not in either election.

Dear JK @ 1:31, your proposition – that only CURRENT events in Ms. Clinton’s past can be used to judge her fairly – is unsound. The logical extension of your argument is if someone conceals his true inclinations for a few years we can no longer legitimately use adult decisions to evaluate character. I think that is wrong. If, hypothetically, President Bush has a history of DUIs and other unsavory behavior, rather than simply ignore the past, he should be compelled to address his past bad decisions. (And so he did. You may not like how he cloaked himself in “religion” but for many of us that is a legitimate basis for a change in heart.) In Ms. Clinton’s case, she suffers Scooter Libby syndrome when she has to explain her private possession of FBI files, or the obvious evidence of influence peddling on her futures commodities trading, or her leftist “cure” for the medical “crisis.” I would like to hear her say she has a change of heart, she is a born-again Christian and her past activities were wrong.

By RCH

June 20, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

getalife Just reread her statement clearly said profit. Subsidies are not calculated into net profit. I guess the govt. deserves that money more than the shareholders who took the risks.

By getalife

June 20, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Post the link RCH.

By JK

June 20, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

Dear jbmlaw, thanks for making my point with your postulating and armchair psychoanalysis/tarot card readings/religio-nutso-based personal judgements. No one can say less with more words than you!

RCH, Little gold star for picking something tangible to discuss instead of dragging up character slurs and non-issues! Yay! Still, I don’t see how subsidies don’t affect profit, since profit is what’s left over after everything is paid. Of course, a skilled book cooker can make it all make sense, right? Just ask Kenneth Rice.

By getalife

June 20, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton on Thursday called for rolling back tax subsidies for oil companies to create a $50 billion “strategic energy fund” to invest in new clean fuel technologies to cut America’s foreign oil dependence and reduce the threat of global warming.

Lets talk “shamnesty” since your are not credible on Hillary RCH.

I think w saying he will secure the border if he gets his “shamnesty” shows his true corporate utopia agenda for cheap labor.

By RCH

June 20, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

JK Many of these subsidies were enacted 15 yrs. ago when crude oil was $36 a barrel and many small oil businesses were on the verge of bankruptcy. I didn’t hear much about seizing oil profits then. Now at $60 plus many of these subsidies have been removed you were the CEO or stockholder of a major oil company, how would you respond to such a statement. Would you want to invest your money in such a company? Would you want to invest billions of dollars in new plants (Refineries-not a new refinery has been built in 20 yrs. while demand has skyrocketed, causing the last price jump) and equipment.

By jbmlaw

June 20, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Dear JK @ 2:17, no mas, I simply cannot process so much logical argument from you.

By RCH

June 20, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

getalife Way to spin. During the Winter meeting Feb. 2 07, she clearly stated ” profits. When this statement finally snowballed, her staff **restated her position that this really meant subsidies. Many of these subsidies don’t even exists any more. They were tide to the price of a barrel of oil and have long ago vanished. Nice try.

By JK

June 20, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Good question, RCH! Because I love and believe in America (or rather, what I think we are…), I’d choose to invest in new clean fuel technologies to cut America’s foreign oil dependence and reduce the threat of global warming. Further, since the corporate beneficiaries of our laws and regulations for the past decade or so (a position bought and paid for, in all fairness) refuse to loosen their grip on a non-taxed, Cayman-sheltered dime for the good of the American people and our future, I support a government initiative to make those things happen. Thanks for asking!

By getalife

June 20, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

Well post the link then RCH.

Stick to immigration because that argument is a loser.

By RCH

June 20, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

JK ” I’d choose to invest in new clean fuel technologies to cut America’s foreign oil dependence and reduce the threat of global warming.” I agree. You should be given a choice. Wise companies and individuals will do so. This is not what Hillary is saying. These firms will have NO choice. She will take it at the point of a gun. Is this America?

By getalife

June 20, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

RCH,

You just agreed with Hillary’s and the Dems position.

Your hatred of Clinton is making you irrational.

Geez.

By RCH

June 20, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

Getalife “Back on Friday of last week, Senator Hillary Clinton spoke at the DNC winter meeting on how oil profits should be seized to be put into a energy alternatives program. There is a video of these comments on YouTube.

“The other day the oil companies recorded the highest profits in the history of the world. I want to take those profits. And I want to put them into a strategic energy fund that will begin to fund alternative smart energy, alternatives and technologies that will actually begin to move us in the direction of independence”.

You can watch or read the whole speech for yourself.Tell me where subsidies are mentioned.

By JK

June 20, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

These firms will have NO choice. She will take it at the point of a gun.

Objection! Conjecture and speculation. How and by whom are such laws enacted, anyway? “She says” makes it law by point of gun? (If she keeps the Bush signing-statement policy, perhaps…)

Stick to the issues, and you can have a rational discussion. Insert reactionary rhetoric and you lose cred. I’d love to see rational disucssions about solving our problems going forward. The whole “Who’s right and who’s a lefty” schtick is soooooo stale.

By RCH

June 20, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

getalife Agreeing with JK to invest in these fuels if I choose to, not because I have too. Would you want me to force you to invest in Haliburton? I forgot, you don’t invest with any company that deals with the military. Does your portfolio yield a profit? Do you believe in profit? If so maybe Hillary would like some of that.

By getalife

June 20, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

Still no link RCH.

Nevermind, read my link.

It is the Dem position.

Big oil can invest in refineries or green energy.

Nobody is holding a gun to their idiot.

They do not need help from the government with record profits.

Tim Ryan is ripping the gop a new one on C-Span.

By RCH

June 20, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

JK “Point of a gun,” a lose term to mean the IRS. And yes they do use guns to enforce tax laws.

By RCH

June 20, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

getalife Read post of 3:09. Link to “You Tube”. You can hear her in her own words.

By GodHatesTrash

June 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

You know, Redneck, that the Mormons have a lot in common with y’all - like Mormon for instance - drop the second “m’ you have the average IQ of one of you hillbillies.

And polygamous Mormon women are often “sister wives”, just like in your fambly.

Trash.

By Drummerboy

June 20, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this

12:59 Lib Libs: ‘Bush acted like a Dem and raised taxes, and that hacked off a lot of republicans and libertarians I knew at the time. At the same time, everyone I knew would still have voted for Bush senior over Bill Clinton if it were down to those two.’

Susie’s Flusie: ‘Then how can you explain his second inaguaration as President? Bad Hair Day?’

I’d read that comment again if I were you before shooting from the hip. I read Bush senior, not junior. Do you read much Susie the lib? Not only did you apparently have a bad hair day, I’d say you had a bad head day as well. Is it that time of the month for you Susie the lib?

By GodHatesTrash

June 20, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this

Bloomberg hurts the Democratic Party. Peckerwood GOPers like Drummerboy are so stupid that they will vote GOP even if that POS Dumbya could run again.

Trash.

By Dusty

June 21, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this

Ho hum just catching up this morning on yesterday. Poor ol’Debbie Doddles @ 9:49,

She exclaims vociferously about my “Mexican rant, etc.”. Just one problem with that. I have never made a Mexican rant anywhere. In fact, I have a most enjoyable Hispanic in my family.

Delirious Debbie, hallucinating AGAIN!!!