Thinking Right

By GodHatesTrash

June 18, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this

The Duke lacrossers are redneck heroes - they invite black strippers to their frat parties, and then they stand up for their rights!

Fine young men, fine Americans.

Trash.

By Benen

June 18, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this

Tony Snow stuck to the White House line on March 15 when describing the U.S. Attorney purge:

“[W]hat the President has — the Department of Justice has made recommendations, they’ve been approved. And it’s pretty clear that these things are based on performance and not on sort of attempts to do political retaliation, if you will.”

As The Daily Show’s Jon Stewart explained this week, after showing a clip of Snow’s quote, “That was three months ago. Three months later, a dozen subpoenas, six hearings … thousands of released e-mails, it turns out that their performances were actually pretty good. And all signs are now pointing to political motivations. I wonder how the White House is going to reconcile this apparent discrepancy?”

Which leads us to Snow’s spin from this week:

Q: Okay, but at the beginning of this story, the President, you, Dan Bartlett, others said on camera that politics was not involved, this was performance-based.

MR. SNOW: That is something — we have never said that.

Snow does realize that people record these press briefings, right? He understands how easy it is to check when he insists “we have never said that,” doesn’t he?

It’s almost as funny as when White House officials tried to convince reporters that the administration has “never” had “a stay-the-course strategy.”

I can almost understand the Bush gang lying; I just wish they were better at it.

Stewart’s analysis

By time for the truth

June 18, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

This whoralicious lying black stripper with multiple OTHER mens DNA in her underwear needs to be taught a severe lesson in the criminal justice system. This is the SECOND time this black racist cow has done this - falsely cried rape!! So far she has completely got away this despicable hate crime against innocent white folks. And the evil white liberal scumbags and the shrill noisy sullen black racebaiters who robotically demanded the (legal) lynching of THREE INNOCENT white lads in Durham need to be crucified in the media the same way these THREE INNOCENT lads were!!!

Nifong needs to go to jail for a long time too. This case was essentially all about ensuring his reelection to a powerful well paying job. His obscene racial pandering was as sickening as anything ever seen from the black congressional caucus. And the lynch mob mentality of blacks both locally and nationally who went along for the black hate crime ride could not have cared less about the THREE INNOCENT white lads. Indeed the morose barely audible apologies since the case completely unravelled have been in such revealing stark contrast to the gleeful noisy screeches of the lynch mob at the start of all this.

The ONLY folks who still have their dignity intact are the white lads and their families and supporters who sensibly stood with them as the party of hate liberal media perpetrated a modern day lynching based SOLELY on black racist lies and the unhinged leftist mindset that never ever looks beyond the shrill cries of racism from bigoted hateful blacks, despicably egged on by their bigoted white enablers, looking for yet another payday!!

All the millions of sick and twisted white and black racebaiters who racebaited this non-crime owe the Duke players a huge grovelling apology.

God (if you exist) please very painfully dessicate this vile poisonous VT based trash!!! Thanks very much!

By Dusty

June 18, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

God Hates Trash @8:23.

If we want to transpose your usual line of literary waste, we might say:

*Black strippers are ghetto heroines! They make their money “taking it off” and then stand up and holler “rape”!

Fine young women! Fine Americans!

Trash!!*

Don’t you see that bigotry is just as ugly for one race as another? Quit writing sick stuff on this blog and we would all be happier.

Jim Wooten is talking about a failure of our justice system here and the final correction. You make it into something “racial”. YOU are the KKK of this era.

By time for the truth

June 18, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

HOW MANY OF THE racebaiting LEFTIST/BLACK/WHITE vermin on here will apologise for their despicable lynch mob behaviour - BEFORE THE actual completely exculpatory TRUTH EMERGED - gleefully perpetrated on the the wholly mendacious say so of a black wh ore who had already lied about rape once before and whose ever changing story was about as credible as the sexual predator Klinton’s equally barefaced lies about Blewinsky!!

Even now the utterly disgraced, disbarred liar Nifong still cannot admit that NO CRIME occured!! Despite the unequivocal pronouncement of the North Carolina state attorney. This is just the latest undeniable example of the liberal/leftist mindset - the malevolent sickness of liberalism!!

By RCH

June 18, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

No matter how you spin, inviting a stripper to your home is not a crime. I consider this woman a danger to society. She needs to be in a mental institution Mr. Nifong deserves to be in jail, serving the same amount of time the young men would be serving if convicted.

By Ray

June 18, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

Dittos Jim - the Duke case lays out front and center the conspiracy to rid the country of good white men like you and me. The Dems made it real clear during the 70’s and 80’s that we were not part of their plan. Guys like Nifong show there is more to the judicial attack than just affirmative action.

By GodHatesTrash

June 18, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

Good to see all the Woo-ten Klanners standing tall and proud for the w-horemongering Duke lacrosse team.

Like Dumbya, the Dukkkester lacrosse team does you redneck trash proud, I see.

Yes, I can see Dusty dancing at the Claremont Lounge for 25 cent tips, tftt’s mama working the Liverpool docks at lunchtime, and all the redneck (and black redneck) hoochie mamas lapdancing and pole dancing there way to a paycheck - somebody’s gotta feed junior, and daddy is a sorry-a* drunken w-horemonger.

Yes, the Dukkke lacrosse team is a celebration of southron family values.

You people are pigs, trash.

By spaceman109

June 18, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

one also wonders where is the justice for mike pressler, the former duke lacrosse coach? the duke ad took pressler’s job for no apparent reason. this outcome does not change pressler’s situation.

also, as one of the players said….if police and prosecutors could do this to me and my teammates, imagine what they could do to smoeone who does not have the resources to defend themselves.

tihs is the scary thing about the justice system in this country as it presently exists. in this case, the justice system worked properly. most of the time, however, you get the justice which you can afford to buy.

By time for the truth

June 18, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

The sullen slothful silence of ALL the odious pandering leftists on here about this almost perpetrated evil black legal lynching and the final justice meted out to one of their own is freaking hilarious!!!

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

June 18, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

Jim,

Nice cherry pick on a political opportunist when it suits your cause.

You failed to mention all the things that “W - The President” did to further his political career.

This is just another inconsequential distraction from the real news…the rape and pillage of this country by the GOP.

By THE GOD OF WAR

June 18, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

He we go the holier than thou angle. How many black guys have recently been released after 18 to 20 years in prison because DNA said they were innocent and some prosecutor said they were guilty. More than one I might add.. Where was the outrage then?

By THE GOD OF WAR

June 18, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

This is just another inconsequential distraction from the real news…the rape and pillage of this country by the GOP.

Here! Here!

Youre blind and you cant see.. Open your eyes people and see what has happened. The middle east is not safer than it was before we invaded Iraq.. We are on our way to some dark days and all you Cowboys cant see the writing on the wall..

George Bush will be known as the man who ended civilization.. Destabilizing the middle east, bankrupting America, total miscarriage of justice and this is just to name a few. I am sure we can fill this whole site up with how GW has ruined us.

By spaceman109

June 18, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

i should have been more specific. the justice system worked properly in the nifong trial. in the players’ case, the justice system did not work until the state attorney general got involved. if the players’ families did not have the money for good lawyers, who knows how this thing would have gone.

By Dusty

June 18, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

God Hates Trash,9:47

Your posts are so irrelevant that it is a total waste of time to sweep them up.

Whatever made you bitter and warped is not my affair. But you might find better mental health explaining to some counselor why the world is so “bad”. She might get a few laughs and we wouldn’t have to read it.

By RCH

June 18, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

* The God of war* I do feel for those falsely convicted. They should be compensated. However, in the cases you mentioned did the prosecutor have evidence that these individuals were innocent. Did he withhold that evidence. If that can be proven those prosecutors should serve the sentence of those convicted. But we are forgetting the main culprit in this story. She just walked away clean. Where is the justice?

By Adam

June 18, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

Mike Nifong has finally received the rebuke he justly deserves for his unconscionable abuse of power. There can be no doubt of his motives in using this case to help him in his reelection campaign. I am glad that the North Carolina officials stepped up to properly address this.

This illustrates once again the dangers of an overwrought appeal to emotions being used by a power hungry demagogue. Taking highly emotional issues like class envy and race and playing to the crowd is nothing new. Nifong probably thought he could get away with it and let these players go to jail if it meant he could use it to stay in office. Their lives mattered nothing to him and they were disposable consequences. He didn’t count on it becoming a national story and therefore coming under heavy scrutiny

As I was watching the Disciplinary Committee announce their findings, I could not help but see the similarities in Nifong’s tactics and those of charlatans currently active such as Al Sharpton, John Edwards, Harry Reid and Howard Dean. They have no plans, no solutions, no answers other than to play to the crowd’s emotions in their insatiable thirst for power. Denounce, divide, agitate, these are their tactics and unfortunately they are also the sum of their ideas. Equally sad is that their dim constituency is always unable to recognize the campaign for what it is. They hear the divisive message and rally behind it giving no thought to solutions or the consequences of empowering the hustler seeking power.

The Duke players better thank their lucky stars that they were charged in a state like North Carolina which ultimately showed the decency to do the right thing. Had they attended a school like Columbia in New York where such divide and conquer tactics carry the day I’m afraid they would be in jail today. Tawana Brawley made Al Sharpton a hero in the Democratic Party. Nifong might be presidential material if he were a local prosecutor from New York

By TW

June 18, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

spaceman109 - “if police and prosecutors could do this to me and my teammates, imagine what they could do to smoeone who does not have the resources to defend themselves”

step out of your white castle and look around. If Genarlo Wilson had been a part of that frat he’d have walked from court wearing a crown…

By Typical Georgia Redneck

June 18, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

This case makes me long for the good not-so-long ago days when we coulda hung this b-itch in front of the courthouse.

That’s how our daddies woulda handled it.

Great men that they were.

By time for the truth

June 18, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

I see Mrs JM Karr-NAMBLA nee rednekkks is yet again psychotically all riled up and predicktably puking up its usual yankkkee low self esteem envious bile at its conservative betters.

NAMBLA’S own scabies ridden sluttish mother of course immediately killed itself in unrequited shame after it saw NAMBLA slithering around on all fours in the purple and yellow spotted afterbirth in the vetinary maternity ward at Bellevue Hospital in New Yawwwk City. It was just too much for Mrs Rednekkks knowing what it had “whelped” using that sperm bank for bloated bloviating swine.

By Aquagirl

June 18, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

Oh,poor innocent lads get into trouble when hired stripper falsely accuses them of rape. Now taxpayers in NC will pay for their pain and suffering. Perhaps the Duke guys could write and sell an instruction manual for “Building Team Esprit On Saturday Nights!”

First, make sure all your underage teammates keep their fake ID’s so you can continue to go to the strip clubs. It’s so hard to find good help nowadays on your own.

Second, make sure that the strippers who show up are white, since that’s what you requested and the crowd doesn’t want to see a couple of ethnic types. Send them back, you’re the customer, and the customer is always right. Honkeys only, no exceptions.

Third, make sure the strippers who show up aren’t falling down drunk and drugged. Just drunk, like you are.

Fourth, if a contract dispute arises with the aforementioned strippers, don’t ask them if they brought sex toys, then offer them a broom handle for a good substitute.

Fifth, don’t shout racebaiting slurs when the not-white-enough strippers retreat; it sets you up for racebaiting unethical prosecutors.

I’m sure the innocent Duke boys can make enough money to cover their legal fees that way. I bet they could sell it on amazon.com, bundled with Genarlow Wilson’s “How To Get A Lot Of People To Feel Sorry For Your Innocent A#@ When The Only Problem Is That You’re Trash”.

By getalife

June 18, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Great, now lets get rid of Ganzo who destroyed our Justice Dept.

Geez.

By JK

June 18, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

The lesson here is that you can’t trust our “justice” system, no matter who you are. Prosecutors don’t care about truth, they care about their resumes. (So one blatant abuser got disbarred… How many more will not?) Money is your only chance, and even then you’re gambling. If you’re poor, fuggetaboutit.

By Typical Georgia Redneck

June 18, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Nifong was wrong to go against his own kind.

We should hang him too that Cynthia McKinney -lover, along with that Cynthia McKinney.

(Note - “Cynthia McKinney” is acceptable Woo-ten Klan code for “black woman” on this blog)

By deegee

June 18, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Everyone got what they deserved. Let it go.

By Dusty

June 18, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Oh great. God Hates Trash now has a girl friend, AquaGirl.

Thanks, Aqua, but I don’t know anyone who wants information on how to set up a stripper party. Obviously you have had experience.

Take your toys and go play with the other blind liberals here who spend their time running down the President, the GOP and the country. Oh yes, the Iraq War also.

Then add the usual two cents claim of “supporting the troops”. What a laugh! The terrorists appreciate all the morale builders you liberals send them every day. They want to come and thank you personally.

By Typical Georgia Redneck

June 18, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Well, folks. I’m outtahere.

Headed to the Claremont Lounge - gonna see if Dusty is working the afternoon shift and see if she can still do that trick where she picks up a dinner plate..

Maybe I’ll mosey back here after a few PBRs…

By JK

June 18, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Ooooo, didn’t take Dusty long to change the subject to “Bush-hating liberals don’t support the troops and love the terr’ists.” Get a new whine, whydoncha? No one is listening to your mantra of lies anymore — not even the Republicans.

By RCH

June 18, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

Degee Everyone? How about those players who had nothing to do with that party. How` about the coach? You have to be kidding.

By Dusty

June 18, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

Moving along…

There is no such thing as a “redneck” much less a “typical redneck”. It is an effort by the uneducated to demean Southerners. It is a way for the ignorant to express prejudice with a “hee haw”.

Such comments are as true as “westerners are all bowlegged cowboys”, “Great Lakers still say ‘Yah…yah’”, “All New Yorkers have a Bronx accent,”“California is the land of fruits and nuts”,”wet backs”, etc. etc. etc. Just slapstick comedy to satisfy the daffy discombobulated. Thought I would get some of this straight before I leave. Soooo long!

By deegee

June 18, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Yes, RCH, Everyone that was involved in litigation in this case got what they deserved. So the college acted in a knee-jerk fasion and cancelled the season and the coach resigned. What should happen next? Compensation for the vendors that lost a sale on game day last year?

By Southern Democrat

June 18, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

This case is such a terrible tragedy. The lives of the three boys ruined by the harshest of allegations and the actions of an overzealous prosecutor costing him his livelihood.

I think we all have so much to learn from this case. First, people (whether white, black, brown, yellow or red) really ARE innocent until proven guilty. Second, the system works, but sometimes it works against defendants.

For those that think that Pressler got a raw deal (including ESPN), I would respectfully disagree. As a former college athlete (non-scholarship football, which, admittedly is different than scholarship DI football, basketball, and lacrosse), I can tell you that this coach had completely lost control of his team. There is no way a coach of a major program should allow this type of behavior in-season while in pursuit of a national championship.

What most people forget is that the players weren’t exactly choir boys. Once this initial accusation came out, others came forward with stories of harrassment, hazing, out-of-control drinking, racial epithets, etc. The coach was clearly not doing something right as these are not the qualities of a Duke student-athlete.

Similarly, I hope and pray that we won’t all look at this accuser and allow it to somehow diminish the credibility of future rape victims. I cannot imagine the courage it takes for a victim to point out her attacker and re-live the most brutal moments of her life. We must find a way to ensure that victims come forward and feel protected while ensuring the rights of the accused… clearly, there was not the right balance in this case.

By catlady

June 18, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

I’d guess that anyone that DA has convicted will be petitioning for the verdict to be set aside, as his willful breaking of the law has shown he was willing to do.

As a woman, I am furious at the young woman who made the charges, as patently false accusations like these make it harder for real victims of rape or sexual abuse to be treated seriously.

BTW, everyone “panders”. It just bothers you if they pander for a cause in which you disagree.

By RCH

June 18, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

degee Lets start with an official public apology from the university and the 80 professors that ridiculed these 3 students. How about apologies from the organizations that spoke ill will of these students including the ” New Black Panther Party” who made threats against them towards their parents. ( Thy will not leave this courtroom alive) gegee you write this off pretty easily. I hope you are never in their shoes.

By catlady

June 18, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

Southern Democrat, thank you for speaking in such moderate tones. (Is it okay to say “moderate” in this politcal forum?)

By zombieboy

June 18, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

Was what the lacrosse players did illegal (hiring the stripper)?

NO

Was what the stripper did illegal (filing a false police report)?

YES

Nifong’s “innocence” has been determined, he’s a douc*e bag.

By deegee

June 18, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

RCH, the justice system is not just and we don’t have to look very far for evidence of that. Public apologies are a tough sell when celebrity justice is commonplace. I was taught a long time ago that when you lay down with dogs you get up with fleas. The Duke boys should be relieved that they aren’t doing 10 years.

By RCH

June 18, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

deegee Yet the individual who perpetrated this shame walks away clean. Why should the Duke boys be relieved that they aren’t serving 10 yrs.,they committed no crime. But I guarantee you they will walk with this burden the rest of their lives. One of them already had a job offer withdrawn because of this. Where is Jesse and Al now? Catlady There are a few individuals with enough sense to know a “boy that cries wolf.” Real men will protect you from real predators.

By Adam

June 18, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

deegee@11:46 The Duke boys should be relieved that they aren’t doing 10 years.

Any particular charge? Or just because you “feel” like they are guilty of something?

Once again prime evidence of why we should fear liberals in office and being allowed to rule based on thier “feelings”.

By Adam

June 18, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

deegee@11:46 The Duke boys should be relieved that they aren’t doing 10 years.

Any particular charge? Or just because you “feel” like they are guilty of something?

Once again prime evidence of why we should fear liberals in office and being allowed to rule based on their “feelings”.

By time for the truth

June 18, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

heebeedeegee is one sick b itch!! I bet it isn’t white either - given its daily far left bollocks and its hysterical defence of illegal leeches, sullen black whoralicious liars and vile pinko racebaiters !!

“10 years” - just for being white - eh?

Adam is invariably assiduously polite, I learned (on here) long ago to dispense with such niceties when eviscerating racebaiting leftist scum!!

It seems heebeedeegee’s flea collar urgently needs replacing - snigger smirk snigger!!

By Shar

June 18, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Mike Nifong used this case as his stepping stone to political power precisely because he knew that accusations against privileged white male athletes by an underprivileged black sex industry worker would bring the media in droves. Where are the lessons learned by those who rushed to sensationalism and judgement in their own self-interest?

The media and the educational establishment leaped upon this story without investigation or reflection precisely because it fed thier own preconceptions, providing an outlet to vent their collective spleen. As a Duke alum, I am disgusted by the initial actions many of its students, faculty and administrators, all of whom have thus far failed to admit their own improper behavior.

The press is supposed to inform the populace, not pander to race baiting. A university is supposed to encourage open minds and unbiased exploration of fact. Duke, in particular, has had an enviable reputation for insisting on academic achievement and appropriate behavior from all of its students, athletes or not, which only fed the gusto of the press in exposing the “depravity” of the lacrosse players as well as the overreaction of the administration.

The lesson here is not just Nifong’s, who has been justly served. What has the AJC learned about knee-jerk racial sensationalism, the self-interest of the accusers and the cost to the innocent? Nifong sees where he “stepped over the line” - who among the media covering the story has said the same? And what is the university’s accountability?

By deegee

June 18, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

Adam, Gennarlow Wilson. He’s doing 10 years for a crime that the GA legislature reduced sentencing to 1 year. That is to what I was referring.

By time for the truth

June 18, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

That is to what I was referring.

LIAR

You’re just yet another anti-white racist hate pig!!

These cases have NO connection whatever. Different states, one case had an actual depraved videotaped gang bang crime, the other was just a tissue of black hate crime lies and a despicable leftist DA getting reelected AND THEN DISBARRED!!

By time for the truth

June 18, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

come on heebeedeegee

ADMIT YOU’RE BLACK!!! Or are you ashamed of this??

No one would get this hysterical about the innocent Duke lads and keep up a stream of embittered racially charged bollocks about the imprisoned black child molestor Wilson unless they were black!!!

By Famous Fred

June 18, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

I’m still waiting for the Al Sharpton’s and the Jesse Jackson’s to come out and retract some of the things they have said about the Dukies. Oh but wait, they have been womanizers and have threatened people in the past so maybe their credibility may be questionable. Just like Nifong they are famous for being famous and only speak when it is to THEIR benefit. Wouldn’t it be great if both sides, including the stripper, admitted that mistakes were made and find ways to correct the system.

By Charles

June 18, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

I am overjoyed that North Carolina’s attorney general declared three former Duke University lacrosse players accused of sexually assaulting a stripper innocent of all charges, ending a prosecution that provoked bitter debate over race, class and the tactics of the Durham County district attorney. Rouge prosecutor Mike Nifong should face the full weight of the law.

African Americans can’t secure the rights guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States because too many don’t understand the relationship between acquiring institutional power and the blessings of liberty. It wasn’t good lawyers per se that freed Duke University’s Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, NJ, and Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, NY and David Evans, a 23-year-old senior from Bethesda MD from the clutches of Mike Nifong and the criminal justice system; it was a benefit of his group having institutional power.

African Americans will continue to experience untold suffering piecemeal through our own neglect until we come to understand the relationship between institutional power and freedom, justice; the blessings of liberty. Our only hope for justice any place on earth is to build black institutions. To conjure up undeniable legal and social arguments over rights denied without institutional power is the height of stupidity.

White Americans would be wise to watch the film produced by Aaron Russo, freedom to fascism. It’s available on the internet free of charge. He shows how tyrants in the United States are well on their way to render white children helpless and without power in the very land which their fathers conquered; White Americans adults should act now while you still have time.

By catlady

June 18, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

RCH, thanks. I appreciate your words of reassurance. My concern is more the women (or men) who might fail to report assault because of this case. Not saying it is right to be afraid to report, just that it is a possibility, especially when you are talking about something so personal as sexual violation.

By James Winslow

June 18, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

Charles,

Probably true about black institutions..unfortunately most blacks in this country pay way too much attention to the only black monopoloy in this country…the NBA.

By Big Ed

June 18, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

To Charles at 12:52

I choose to watch the movie “Remember the Titans.” It’s a true story about a small southern town that actually learned how to know and respect each other in a previously racially divided community. Can’t we all just get along??

By deegee

June 18, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

Yes, a new flea collar is in order. It’s done. The fleas on this blog are too sick, stupid and demented for me. Time to take some of my own advice and stay out of the dog pound.

By Charles

June 18, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

Big Ed, you are tripping hard man. You really need to talk to James Winslow.

By heebeedeegee is BLACK

June 18, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

see how this sad leftist cow is quietly ashamed of its own race!!

I am proud to admit I am a white Englishman, so why won’t you admit you’re black American girl/woman? No shame in that at all!!

By Charles

June 18, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

Any group of people having insufficient institutions to provide for their basic needs and don’t understand the significance of them should be ashame of themselves. If not, they are perfectly n****, or punch drunk.

By JK

June 18, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Charles, I’m with Big Ed at 1:09. So please tell me, am I “tripping hard” because I WANT for us all look past color and try to get along, or because I think it might actually be possible? Thanks!

By SGT Dave

June 18, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

I am having a hard time believing some of the comments here. Bottom line is that except for their families’ ability to raise about $3 million, these three men would be in jail. Follow the logic, people. How many in NC, black or white, are in jail because they did not have that kind of support? What Nifong did in the wake of the accuser’s false story should make all of us worried. Who would have been next? What if your father or brother or son (or for that matter, mother, sister, or daughter) was the next person implicated without evidence in a case that was politically beneficial to the DA? Did they find your mother in a car that matched the description of one that hit a kid from the poor part of town? Who cares if there was no evidence or worse exculpatory evidence including a video of her car at Walgreen’s when the hit and run took place. She “fits” the “profile” and besides - only rich, white women drive Volvos; she can afford the cost of a trial.

It isn’t about the lax three - it is about you and I and everyone that could become the next 10-point swing in an election year.

And to the person talking about firing the coach - Spring Break is Spring Break. The kids are out of school; he could have given restrictions but the chance of listening is about the same as any other late teen/early twenty year old (male or female). Hiring a stripper is pretty tame - what did you do on break in Cancun or Florida?

Your outrage reflects poorly on your judgement and self-interest. Think and be angry about the injustice that could have happened to them and work to fix it. You could be next. Let me say that again. YOU COULD BE NEXT!

SGT Dave

By SGT Dave

June 18, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

I am having a hard time believing some of the comments here. Bottom line is that except for their families’ ability to raise about $3 million, these three men would be in jail. Follow the logic, people. How many in NC, black or white, are in jail because they did not have that kind of support? What Nifong did in the wake of the accuser’s false story should make all of us worried. Who would have been next? What if your father or brother or son (or for that matter, mother, sister, or daughter) was the next person implicated without evidence in a case that was politically beneficial to the DA? Did they find your mother in a car that matched the description of one that hit a kid from the poor part of town? Who cares if there was no evidence or worse exculpatory evidence including a video of her car at Walgreen’s when the hit and run took place. She “fits” the “profile” and besides - only rich, white women drive Volvos; she can afford the cost of a trial.

It isn’t about the lax three - it is about you and I and everyone that could become the next 10-point swing in an election year.

And to the person talking about firing the coach - Spring Break is Spring Break. The kids are out of school; he could have given restrictions but the chance of listening is about the same as any other late teen/early twenty year old (male or female). Hiring a stripper is pretty tame - what did you do on break in Cancun or Florida?

Your outrage reflects poorly on your judgement and self-interest. Think and be angry about the injustice that could have happened to them and work to fix it. You could be next. Let me say that again. YOU COULD BE NEXT!

SGT Dave

By SGT Dave

June 18, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

I am having a hard time believing some of the comments here. Bottom line is that except for their families’ ability to raise about $3 million, these three men would be in jail. Follow the logic, people. How many in NC, black or white, are in jail because they did not have that kind of support? What Nifong did in the wake of the accuser’s false story should make all of us worried. Who would have been next? What if your father or brother or son (or for that matter, mother, sister, or daughter) was the next person implicated without evidence in a case that was politically beneficial to the DA? Did they find your mother in a car that matched the description of one that hit a kid from the poor part of town? Who cares if there was no evidence or worse exculpatory evidence including a video of her car at Walgreen’s when the hit and run took place. She “fits” the “profile” and besides - only rich, white women drive Volvos; she can afford the cost of a trial.

It isn’t about the lax three - it is about you and I and everyone that could become the next 10-point swing in an election year.

And to the person talking about firing the coach - Spring Break is Spring Break. The kids are out of school; he could have given restrictions but the chance of listening is about the same as any other late teen/early twenty year old (male or female). Hiring a stripper is pretty tame - what did you do on break in Cancun or Florida?

Your outrage reflects poorly on your judgement and self-interest. Think and be angry about the injustice that could have happened to them and work to fix it. You could be next. Let me say that again. YOU COULD BE NEXT!

SGT Dave

By getalife

June 18, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

Duke boys get paid by Duke University.

Numbers undisclosed but in the millions.

By Charles

June 18, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

JK,

If you are a Negro, institutionally, as granny would say, your people do not have a pot to p** in. How in the world can you get along with any people in that condition? Maybe you do as Gladys knight does; you really have to use your imagination. (Illusion and delusion)

If you are white, you don’t appear to understand what it means to any people to have institutions. Anyone who does wouldn’t make that kind of statement unless you are being devious.

www.radioliberty.com

By BS Aplenty

June 18, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

Geez, RCH & Catlady, in spite of the fleas, it sounds like you two have made a real love connection (but what would the children look like…or, God-forbid, think like).

Charles, I blacks in this country have adequate means to obtain justice but, like other impoverished groups, they oftentimes don’t have the resources to access it. Your lobbying for special “institutional power” has something of an ominous and un-democratic ring to it.

By RCH

June 18, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

getalife They deserve every penny plus more! Unfortunately, it is the people who will really foot the bill. Maybe Jesse will find them jobs. LOL

By Charles

June 18, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

BS Aplenty,

I think people don’t want to see African Americans with real power. There isn’t anything threatening about African Americans having institutions capable of meeting our basic needs.

I think all people would benefit from it. Real integration could be achieved. The crime rate reduced. The prison industrial complex would be a thing of the past. A people of substance could be born. That’s good for Democracy, Republic.

Those who profit from our present inept condition would be the big losers. So, it’s not going to be easy. They are going protect their money to the death.

By Bush Hates the Constitution

June 18, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

We’ve known for a while that the president has a habit of issuing signing statements, through which President Bush tells Congress which parts of certain laws he’s wishes to ignore. Well, the General Accountability Office, Congress’ investigative arm, looked into how these signing statements affect administration policy.

The GAO issued its report today. It says, that the Bush Administration failed to execute the law as instructed in over 30 percent of the cases.

Isn’t there something in the Constitution about to the effect that the President “shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed”? A minor technicality to him — I’m sure.

By Southern Democrat

June 18, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

Listen,

As a former teacher I just do not want to miss this “teaching moment.”

YES it is wonderful, fabulous, just, etc. that the three Duke lacrosse players were exonerated after being wrongfully accused.

NO it is not acceptable for a student-athlete to be at a party with underage drinking, hire a stripper, refer to her as a n&%$er, and have e-mail fantasies about racial violence.

We should all tell our kids two things here:

1.) As SGT Dave says, “you could be next.” Keep your nose clean and avoid being guilty by association.

2.) You represent God, your family, your school, and your community in everything you do. Any mistake you make brings shame to all of the above.

By Scholar

June 18, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

SGT Dave,

Thanks for posting an intelligent and cogent thought that was not based in politics or self-absorbed opinion. You nailed it, most of the people here are missing a very important point. Everyone of us could fall prey to circumstance and the aspirations of an uncaring system. Most people fail to realize that in the course of their every day activities (specifically driving as in the example you brought up) they are one bad decision away from losing their freedom or getting in a world of legal hurt. These kids were very lucky that the outrageous behavior of this DA was brought to light by their capable legal defense team. How many people are in jail because they could not afford such astute lawyers? How many of us would be in jail if faced with the same set of circumstances?

By Charles

June 18, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

Let me give SGT Dave and Scholar some help before I depart for the day. It’s been a great day on the job. I have done a lot of multi-tasking today.

I will talk to everybody tomorrow, God willing.

These websites have the power to bring people to their senses.

www.radioliberty.com www.iotconline.com www.thepatriots.us www.chuckcoppes.com www.freedomadvocates.org www.infowars.com www.deliberatedumbingdown.com www.americandeception.com www.ccir.net www.patholiday.comwww.infowars.com

By Me

June 18, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

A couple of points: 1-Imagine if the lacrosse players hadn’t been from families who had the money to hire good lawyers. 2-If you want to stay out of trouble, stay out of places where trouble occurs.

By Charles

June 18, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this

Everybody remember what I said at 4:06 PM.

Those who profit from our present inept condition would be the big losers. So, it’s not going to be easy. They are going to protect their money to the death.

Agent provocateurs are active on most websites along with the deceived and the ignorant pretending to be consciously informed.

See you tomorrow; God willing.

By irish65

June 19, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

Jim, you finally said something logical!!

By SET

June 21, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

Let’s see:

The Lacrosse kids really found out who their friends were in life…

Nifong got promoted to his level of incompetence and lost everything.

And when you order Irma LaDouce, and the doorbell rings and you get Anna Lucasta on crack, slam the door in her face.

As far as the voters who elected Nifong based on a man-bites-dog story, they got what they deserved also.

We still remember Tawanna Brawley, Al Sharpton and all the rest.

And this is news?? It’s history repeating.

Brave New World!

By Phlak

June 22, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this

I’m surprised that people do not understand the power and craft of New York legal-PR operatives. A classic case: attack the victim, disgrace the prosecuter, make sure the boys don’t have to testify under oath talk, bury the facts (DNA of Duke lacrosse players was connected to the woman, though not proven to be that of the the accused.)meddle in the politics of the NC legal system. It worked perfectly. They got to the media; they got to the NC bar association; they got to the NC AG. The justice system was obliterated. No one took the stand; no was proven innocent or guilty. Some day the truth will come out.