Thinking Right

By Van

June 13, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Finally, the lefties turned on Wooten’s blog - Amazing. Does Luckovich have this much trouble?

As much as I tend to agree with Rudy, I see a few problem areas.

How do you “To restore fiscal discipline and cut wasteful spending.” while at the same time “To offer affordable and portable free-market solutions to health care.”

By The Return of Doom

June 13, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

Jim Wooten,

Maybe if you printed something worth responding to, like the death of Norton the whale shark, then your blog wouldn’t be empty.

By jbmlaw

June 13, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

Good afternoon all. I previously declared my support for Fred, and I have seen no reason to change my mind. I like any of the five top Republicans (Thompson, Romney, Gingrich, Giuliani, and McCain) better than any of the four top Democrats (Clinton, Obama, Edwards, and Gore). I think Rudy is the most electable Republican – he is more likely to pick off a blue state than any other Republican, and I think he is conservative enough that he will not lose any of the red ones. That said, I believe Ohio, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Iowa, New Mexico, and Wisconsin are all in play in 2008. If you read the Paglia link on Drudge today, she now expects Giuliani or Romney to win the election – says the Democrats seem shallow next to them.

The Rudy list is respectable and reasonably comprehensive, and easily distinguished from the Move On agenda – I think it would be a smart move by the other Republicans to publicly agree that Rudy has stated well “Republican” principles. As to the immigration issue in particular, I heard Rudy on Hannity last week, and his discussion of immigration was pretty intelligent. Even as pro-open borders as I am, I found no meaningful basis to disagree. I guess that is the art of politics – to sound like you’re saying something significant without committing to any particular course of action.

Hope you all saw Fred’s funny line on Leno: asked about his eight years in the Senate, Fred said his eight years in Washington left him longing for the warmth and sincerity of Hollywood.

Special note to Shar, I missed most of Tuesday, but your 5:43 post said everything I would have wished to say, except you said it better than I could.

By getalife

June 13, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Sounds like the promises of w and the contract on America.

It is a proven fact, the gop can’t govern.

Why in the world would you want to vote gop?

A total Dem majority is the only option to get back to the good ole days of Clinton.

By RCH

June 13, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw The two major concerns that follow Rudy will be, abortion and gun control. Both these issues have strong implications of carrying the moderate to more extreme right vote. And, its only a matter of time until the Democrats start their mud slinging concerning his personal life.

By jbmlaw

June 13, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

I should have listed Virginia as a state in play also.

By The Return of Doom

June 13, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

You mongrels make Doom sick. How can you debate over a bunch of losers when we just lost another whale shark? The homocrats are going to win the White House so why bother spending all this useless stupid energy?

By AET

June 13, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

Previously posted at Luckovitch. jbmlaw good afternoon. This is my take on the 08 presidential campaign.

By AET

June 13, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

Very good article on Fred Thompson. While some Republicans look at him as manna from heaven, in reality he doesn’t have a prayer. Any candidate in the coming election that is embraced by the right wing will be dead mangled meat in the general election. Not to say that he can’t be nominated, just that he will get crushed in the general. Guliani is flipping and flopping like a fish out of water. He’s trying to walk a fine line between moderates and the lunatic right. If he gets too close to the wingnuts….well. In reality the Republicans have only one candidate that can make it a race in the general election. That candidate is John McCain. McCain can attract both moderates and independents that went over in the 06 elections. The jury is still out as to whether Guliani can hold those votes for the Republicans. Romney….no chance whatsoever. Right wing bigots will never accept his religion. Too bad. But it opitimizes the the polarization that has literally destroyed the Republican party in an amazingly short period of time.

By getalife

June 13, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

For the life of me, I don’t know how we can “lift our vision from the rear view mirror” when Giuliani’s entire candidacy is built upon his role - albeit a revisionist version of it - in the September 11 attacks and openly exploits the tragedy. Hell, even the brief back story on his wife, Judy, explicitly cites 9/11.

Pathetic.

Geez.

By getalife

June 13, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

“I’ve learned one thing in listening to all the debates and reading about all these people running for office, and the one fact I’ve learned, I can’t get out of my mind, is that Rudy Giuliani has been married more times than Mitt Romney’s been hunting.”

hat tip / Harry Reid

Geez.

By jbmlaw

June 13, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

Dear Getalife @ 1:13, one great reason is the Democrat’s new policy on earmarks, concealing all accountability. In today’s WSJ – your David Obey is a true snake.

Dear AET @ 1:33, I am curious as to which red states you believe will vote for Hillary instead of Fred.

By RCH

June 13, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

Getalife Obviously you never followed the mayor ship of Giuliani; 1) Lowered taxes numerous times 2) Decreased welfare payments 3) Removed and ” cleaned up ” the city (Porn), and reduced crime a substantial margin. I guess your right, he didn’t do anything. And as I mentioned in my above blog let the personal mudslinging begin!

By getalife

June 13, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

fakelaw,

Yes, it got nasty late last night in the House.

Obey was blasting the gop for having to clean up their mess and the gop were whining.

The gop had the chance for earmark reform but they blew it and like everything else want the Dems to fix it.

Obey said most of the time they have to supply documents for prosecuters on gop cases.

It will take decades to clean up the gop mess.

By getalife

June 13, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

RCH,

He backed corrupt Kerik and is using the worst attack in our history to try to claim power.

No thanks.

The gop can’t govern. Period.

There is no reason to vote for people that can’t govern and do not believe in oversight or the law.

Insane.

By jbmlaw

June 13, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Dear Van @ 1:10, good question. I am not an apologist for Rudy, but one way is to reduce costs. E.g., limit malpractice awards, repeal laws requiring hospitals to treat without regard to insurance.

Dear RCH @ 1:20, I believe Rudy when he says he opposes Federal gun control. And even leftist attorneys are mostly embarrassed by Roe v Wade, and the way it continues to divide the country; I think Rudy speaks sincerely when he says that should be left with the states, even though we both know he is as pro-abortion as the Dems. For me the tipping point in Rudy’s favor is his commitment to appoint judges like Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, and Alito – that says as much by omission as does the commitment.

By melo

June 13, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

And, its only a matter of time until the Democrats start their mud slinging concerning his personal life.

I like that line. Dont worry, it wont stick. Rudy is as squeaky clean as Benard Kurik, the pseudo homeland security chief. Good luck Rudy! U need it. And by being on the offensive on terror, he meant what about Iraq?If u want a litmus test, there is one.Any more wonder why he will be seen as a Bush twin. Remember the ides of March, no i mean the mistake of voting Bush for a 2nd term. Republicans hope the voters have forgotten. And u have this Mormon-cult cartoon character causing confusion in the polls. Republicans are in a quandry right now. Good luck dreamers! Seriously.

By jbmlaw

June 13, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

Dear Getalife @ 1:55, your argument is dishonest. The Republicans had clear reporting requirements on earmarks – that is why you heard about the Bridge to Nowhere. Obey has abolished the reporting, now you will never hear what goodies they are concealing in the budget. That is the Democrat’s way, isn’t it; cover up, and deny. After all of your words on “corruption” one would have expected you to oppose those who make it harder to discover.

By jbmlaw

June 13, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

Dear Melo @ 2:03, which red states do you believe will vote for Hillary instead of Mitt?

By RCH

June 13, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

jjmlaw You are correct in the assertion that he will pick conservative Supreme Court nominees If most conservatives place weight on this statement they will realize no matter what his view, as president he has only one outlet and that is judges. getalife I am sure he planned the 911 attacks so he could “claim power”, or maybe he is demonstrating something unique to you: LEADERSHIP!

By Van

June 13, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

The Return of Doom,

Your right, we should be more concerned for a fish(better battered and fried) than with the far in the future election.

Or is it the few things the lefties can be indignant about?

I’m more upset with Al Gores chiding George H. W. Bush for ignoring Saddam’s WMD’s and terrorism ties, back in September 29th, 1992.

By black racebaiters anonymous

June 13, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

I see the chickensh!t AlJazeera Urinal types finally remembered that there is a conservative blog buried under all the putrid liberal pandering multicultural bollocks they puke up day after day, whilst DESERVEDLY enjoying ever more receding circulation figures.

Has anyone else noted that the Urinal has also very quietly, very recently cancelled the need to register/login to access the front page news stories. Couldn’t be that even the cyber readership is down too - could it??? HA HA HA HA!!

I had a huge raucous larrrf yesterday when I finally saw some TV footage of this sick judicial nutter who is suing a dry cleaners for tens of millions of dollars over a lost pair of trousers!!! Given the initial media reports I naturally assumed this was a white anal retentive mental case trying it on. Imagine how much sickened hilarity I enjoyed when I discovered its a black bigot mental case!!! The key to this case is NOT the trousers folks - its the endemic sickening black racism/bigotry against Koreans!! Funny how the pandering media have kept this illuminating fact real quiet!! Poor hard working Koreans being bullied and shaken down by some venal grasping black scumbag over a pair of sodding trousers!!!

Only in America!!!

WOULD YOU WANT THIS seemingly DERANGED BLACK BIGOT DEALING WITH YOUR CASE?

WASHINGTON (Map, News) - A judge had to leave the courtroom with tears running down his face Tuesday after recalling the lost pair of trousers that led to his $54 million lawsuit against a dry cleaner.

Administrative law judge Roy L. Pearson had argued earlier in his opening statement that he is acting in the interest of all city residents against poor business practices. Defense attorneys called his claim “outlandish.”

He originally sued Custom Cleaners for about $65 million under the District of Columbia consumer protection act and almost $2 million in common law claims. He is no longer seeking damages related to the pants, instead focusing his claims on two signs in the shop that have since been removed.

He alleges that Jin Chung, Soo Chung and Ki Chung, owners of the mom-and-pop business, committed fraud and misled consumers with signs that claimed “Satisfaction Guaranteed” and “Same Day Service.”

Pearson, representing himself, said in opening that he wanted to examine the culture that allowed “a group of defendants to engage in bad business practices for five years.”

An attorney for the Chungs portrayed Pearson as a bitter man with financial troubles stemming from a recent divorce who is taking out his anger on a hardworking family.

“This case is very simple. It’s about one sign and the plaintiff’s outlandish interpretation,” attorney Chris Manning said.

The Chungs were to present their case Wednesday. Manning asked D.C. Superior Court Judge Judith Bartnoff to award them reimbursement for their legal costs if they win.

Pearson called several witnesses Tuesday who testified that they stopped going to Custom Cleaners after problems with misplaced clothes.

Pearson also called himself as a witness, saying his problems began in May 2005 when he brought in several suits for alterations. A pair of pants from a blue and maroon suit was missing when he requested it two days later. He said Soo Chung tried to give him a pair of charcoal gray pants.

As Pearson explained that those weren’t the pants for the suit, he choked up and left the courtroom crying after asking Bartnoff for a break.

Pearson originally asked the cleaners for the full price of the suit, which was more than $1,000. But because the Chungs insisted the pants had been found, they refused to pay.

Manning has said the cleaners made three settlement offers to Pearson, but the judge was not satisfied and increased his demands - including asking for money to rent a car so he could drive to another business.

By melo

June 13, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

@jbmlaw, I really dont know. But to be honest with you, the dynamics of a campaign are hard to envisage at this point.If Hilary decides to open up a little and become more engaged and passionate(esp. to people), she may surprise .She is smart and well read. That counts for something.

By getalife

June 13, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

bs fakelaw,

Stevens is under investigation and he still got the money.

Its watchdog groups idiot.

RCH,

Rudy put the command center in the towers after it was first bombed.

Leadership?

Just another gop idiot.

By 13 & 14

June 13, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

13….To never wear white after labor day.

14….To go on record and say the Republican “family values” crusade was phony. False. Had no value. Meant nothing. Was a total myth.

By J

June 13, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

A “home run”? This list of 12 bland, vacuous, focus-tested vagaries? Please, spare us.

If there was something remotely linked to HOW he would do any of these, it would be noteworthy. Rudy’s dozen promises (and, as a politician, no doubt he’ll KEEP those promises!) are nothing more than empty platitudes - red meat for the base.

After all, I seem to remember a certain presidential candidate, not too long ago, promising to “restore honor and dignity to the White House.” I wonder how that one turned out?

By Dennis

June 13, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten writes; “While not as specific as the Contract with America, it is a useful start.”

You’re dedicated, Mr. Wooten, I’ve got to say that. But how does one get to be a columnist and not recognize the “12 comments” for the same old same old song and dance hype that it is?

Wha’cha gotta understand is, even with your column’s support, AMERICANS AIN’T BUYING IT.

“The nation really is tired of the old political games in Washington.”

My point, exactly.

“A new L.A. Times/Bloomberg poll reveals that Congress has sunk to its lowest approval rating in more than a decade, at 27 percent. That’s down from 36 in January.”

This just reinforces my point a second time. Congress is nothing more than a “Parliment of W*******”. The Republican portion of which is led by president Dick Cheney and his vice president, George W. Bush.

And the Democrats, (God bless’um!) are doing just as well without a leader.

“Sixty-three percent of the country looks to Washington and sees business as usual on Capitol Hill.”

Right. Inspite of the exposure and convictions of the corrupt Enron types with connections to the White House, the crooked lobbyist, convicted Congresspersons, the lies that led us into the Iraq war and the lies that keep us there (and the blood shed for those lies), and the most recent and ongoing lies of the ultra right Republicans trying to stack the deck of the Attorney Generals in their favor (did I leave out stacking the Supreme Court?), and again, all leading into the White House and the Oval Office, and, well, the list just goes on and on, doesn’t it?

But, you’re right. “…the country looks to Washington and sees business as usual on Capitol Hill.”

The positive side, and the scary side, too, is that 27% of Americans believe the country is being well led.

That must be the 27% of Americans who believe what you write.

But don’t change anything. If every columnist wrote the truth, political journalism would be a boring read.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By RCH

June 13, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

Melo Saying you no nothing about missing FBI files and then they are found in a White House closet with your fingerprints all over them counts for something too.

By Van

June 13, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

melo,

If Hillary would appear more human you mean.

Anyone that would trade her personal integrity for the power trip of a life time, can’t be all good. Is this someone you want?

By getalife

June 13, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

“Jonah Goldberg quotes a reader who is Hopping Mad and Says So in an Angry Email:

Conservatives need to turn off the money spigot. We can turn it back on in plenty of time for the general election next year, but right now we need to stop writing checks to any GOP organization and to any candidate who is not explicitly supporting a conservative agenda. If money is the lifeblood of politics, we need to apply a tourniquet and NOW if we’re going to get our so-called elected representatives to pay any attention to us and get their heads out of the D.C. bubble. (He said, being charitable.) Uh-huh.

One wonders what it will take for the typical GOP Supporting Average Joe Dumbass Who Writes to NRO to realize that the GOP does not need his check, nor the checks of any NRO-reading twit.

On the immigration bill, the GOP is already following the money, you morons”.

Geez.

By Keyboard Warrior

June 13, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

Guiliani’s first committment was “To keep America on offense in the war on terrorism.”

If Guiliani’s approach to keeping us on offense included a surge in Afghanistan to capture bin Laden and beat back the Taliban, a surge in diplomacy throughout the Middle East, a surge in efforts to implement the recommendations of the 9/11 commission that address communications among first responders and securing our ports, chemical plants and nuclear facilities, a surge in our commitment to a making progress with the Israeli-Palestinian issue, a surge in efforts to reduce nuclear proliferation by securing loose nukes and reducing the size of our bloated nuclear arsenal, and a surge in efforts to address extreme poverty and disease in areas where the people are susceptible to radical Islam, then I’d be with him.

Unfortunately, Guiliani is committing to more of the same: sending more troops into a war we can’t win (we’re grossly undermanned and underequipped in Iraq) and taking a one-sided, do-nothing approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — thereby allowing the Taliban to regroup and Afghanistan to deteriorate, contributing to (rather than reducing) the growth of al Queda, strengthening the hand of Iran and inflaming the conflicts in the Middle East. When it comes to the war on terror, electing Guiliani, Fred Thompson or any other of the Republicans running for President would result in a continuation of the failed policies of the President Bush and his apologists, including Joe Leiberman, Zell Miller and nearly all of the Republicans in Congress.

By RCH

June 13, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

Keyboard Wizzard Explain ths staement:

Unfortunately, Guiliani is committing to more of the same: sending more troops into a war we can’t win (we’re grossly undermanned and underequipped in Iraq)

If were are grossly undermanned and underequipped, doesn’t it make since to send more man and material to finnish the job?

By AET

June 13, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

By Dennis

June 13, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

Wha’cha gotta understand is, even with your column’s support, AMERICANS AIN’T BUYING IT.

Dennis do you not find it contradictory that the very folks who whined and cried that government could not be trusted to enforce the provisions of a new immigration package are feeling all warm and fuzzy over Rudy’s dozen promises. Go figure.

By Keyboard Warrior

June 13, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

RCH,

In response to your question —

Since 2001, 1.5 million American service members have served in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. As of April 2007, about 26,000 troops were serving in Afghanistan and 154,000 troops were serving in Iraq. The forces currently in Iraq or deploying in the next few months represent half of the Army’s combat brigades.

According to military experts from General Colin Powell to former Defense Secretary Lawrence Korb, years of war and the current “surge” in Iraq have pushed our military to the breaking point. Retired Major General Robert Scales has said simply, “We’re running out of soldiers faster than we’re running out of warfighting missions.” And General Peter Schoomaker, the Chief of Staff of the United States Army, warns:

While our Soldiers are responding with extraordinary commitment, particularly in the face of adversity and personal hardships, we cannot allow this condition to persist.

In recent weeks the shortfalls have become apparent even within Iraq. Gen. Benjamin R. Mixon, who commands US troops in northern Iraq, has admitted he doesn’t have enough troops to complete missions in Diyala.

Facing serious problems with recruitment, the military has been forced to lower age, education, and aptitude standards for new recruits, as well as increase enlistment bonuses. The costs of retention have sky-rocketed. The military has also held 70,000 troops on active duty beyond their expected contract end-dates and has called up more than 10,000 veterans who have not put on a uniform in years.

The military now regularly requires troops to serve multiple, extended combat tours. Over 420,000 troops have served more than one combat tour, and many have returned to war with only a few months rest. Active-duty Army combat tours are now 15 months long, with only half the recommended “dwell time” at home between tours. According to an Army survey, “soldiers are 50 percent more likely” to suffer from a mental health problem if they serve multiple tours. To learn more about the mental health effects of war, please see the IAVA report, “Mental Health Problems Among Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans.”

Equipment shortages are also a serious issue, contributing to the plummeting readiness ratings of Army and Marine units. As of September 2006, “roughly one-half of all Army units (deployed and non-deployed, active and reserves) receive the lowest readiness rating any fully formed unit can receive.” The overuse of the Guard and Reserve are threatening our ability to cope with domestic emergencies. About four-fifths of Army Guard and Reserve units not mobilized received the lowest possible readiness rating. State officials have expressed grave concerns about the damage done to our national security. As Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius said after her state was devastated by tornados:

Fifty percent of our trucks are gone. Our front loaders are gone. We are missing Humvees that move people. We can’t borrow them from other states because their equipment is gone. It’s a huge issue for states across the country.

http://www.optruth.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2465&Itemid=152

By JB

June 13, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Following up on Keyboard Warrior’s assertions about lack of equipment, here’s a link from the Washington Post that supports that statement:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/11/AR2007021101345.html

By FedUp

June 13, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

AET you are spot on. It is verry very frustrating to me and almost unfathomable that mainstream Republicans like myself have allowed that trash on the right to hijack our party and foist their lunatic minority agendas on the majority of us in the party. The Dems have much the same issue. Why in heaven’s name have those of us who are the true majority in this country, from left center to right center not just broken away from both parties to form a party that will dominate politics in this country for the rest of eternity. Why do we allow this small number of racists, bigots, and religious fanatics to force us, the true majority to always be choosing the lessor of two evils when it should be us doing that exact thing to them. Unbelievable.

By Southern Democrat

June 13, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

Jbmlaw,

Is it just me or do you find it ironic that one of the most creative and “loose” constructionist U.S. Attorneys in our history would now pledge to “reform the judicial system and appoint strict constructionist judges”?

How on Earth are we expected to push the homeless out of Manhattan and pretend they don’t exist in the Giuliani administration?

Talking points, contracts, and lists usually appeal to the lowest common denominator of voter: he who seeks justification in lieu of education.

Giuliani’s cute list will appeal to those who already liked him, but for those of us undecided, it is a series of hollow promises without concurrent policy and budget statements.

By RCH

June 13, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

Keyboard Warrior

“Some wars or war-like actions end when the military objective of the victorious side has been achieved. Others do not, especially in cases where the state structures do not exist, or have collapsed prior to the victory of the conqueror. In such cases, disorganised guerilla warfare may continue for a considerable period.”

Is that not what is happening now. We have achieved or basic objective. Those we fight now are mostly insurgents from other countries held together by religious beliefs.

“Some hostilities, such as insurgency or civil war, may persist for long periods of time with only a low level of military activity. In some cases there is no negotiation of any official treaty, but fighting may trail off and eventually stop after the political demands of the belligerent groups have been reconciled, a political settlement has been negotiated, or combatants are gradually killed or decide the conflict is futile.”

Is this not what we are waiting for. The two larger Islamic sects to find a political settlement?

Maybe defunding the military by the Clinton administration had a profound effect on the readiness of our troops. Should we not make sure this never happens again.

By deegee

June 13, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

The Repbulican right wing is telling us that it’s best to do nothing than to do something wrong. Why do we need them if the best thing they can do is nothing?

By RCH

June 13, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Southern Democrat Something like Newts aren’t they. I take 8 more years of Ronald Regan any day.

By Aquagirl

June 13, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

There go those right-wing Bushies again…oh, sure, it’s Clinton’s fault. RCH, you loser, who launched a war on two fronts at once? Who has raped National Guard and Reserve units repeatedly? Who’s squeezing the last drop of blood out of active-duty units? BUSH. Money’s got nothing to do with the worst problems in the military.

You can spend more money pretty quick, but who do you think will be signing up to use all that equipment in 6-7 years? Given the extended deployments and involuntary recalls/retentions, finding a new generation of soldiers…good freakin’ luck. When these crapped-upon vets come back home and start having flashbacks in the Kroger parking lot, it’s not going to give recruiting a boost.

Well, solving that will be up to the incoming Democratic administration. They’ll think of something. Like—-maybe not getting into stupid quagmires to prove your ten-gallon hat is bigger than somebody’s head rag.

By THE GOD OF WAR

June 13, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

History will judge The Bush Administration harshly. Wait and see. Most of you old farts wont be here to see it thats why you could care less about who is angry with the US or the environment. However you guys are always the first to say it’s all about family and future generations.

I agree with the above post about its time for middle of the road Americans to ban together and stop letting the fringe dictate whats best for the country.

By Dennis

June 13, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

By AET June 13, 2007 3:31 PM “Dennis do you not find it contradictory that the very folks who whined and cried that government could not be trusted to enforce the provisions of a new immigration package are feeling all warm and fuzzy over Rudy’s dozen promises. Go figure.”

What I find is a lack of ethics in journalism. And I guess, by extension, Jim Wooten’s columns. Tho, and not to excuse him, he’s not alone in his intentionally slanted views.

That lack of ethics makes me wonder why in the hell people read this stuff or watch it on television and believe it. Apparently, if you don’t believe it and swallow it hook, line and sinker, you must be anti-American.

I refuse to be a part of Walter Lippman’s “bewildered herd”; sitting in front of a t.v., watching crappy programs chosen for my by some two or three mega corporations and listening to news “managed” for my benefit.

I noticed my discription of govenment above was censured, so let me change that to a “Parliment of Prostitutes”, who are willing to do anything and everything to get elected and re-elected, and are willing to continue to let American soldiers dies for profits for the already rich.

If I planned a bank robbery and, while waiting outside, sent a few people into the bank and they and I were caught, we’d all do time in prison.

But let a president send American troops to attack Iraq on a pack of lies and get caught, and where thousands are needlessly killed, and the Congress doesn’t do a damned thing about it.

But columns like Wooten’s boost him up.

The “12 comments” above are just another re-run of the usual political crap, not worth reporting.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By RCH

June 13, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

And while we are on the subject lets anaylze this info:

The total military dead in the Iraq war between 2003 and this month stands at about 3,133. This is tragic, as are all deaths due to war, and we are facing a cowardly enemy unlike any other in our past that hides behind innocent citizens. Each death is blazoned in the headlines of newspapers and Internet sites. What is never compared is the number of military deaths during the Clinton administration: 1,245 in 1993; 1,109 in 1994; 1,055 in 1995; 1,008 in 1996. That’s 4,417 deaths in peacetime but, of course, who’s counting?

4,417 Military deaths during Clinton’s non-war administration.

3,133 under Bush during a War.

By jbmlaw

June 13, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

Dear Southern @ 3:46, I think you and I have previously agreed that the things Rudy says now are not reflective of the way he has done business in the past. Perhaps I am Pollyanna-ish in hoping that is truly the case, that the present reflects “growth.”

By THE GOD OF WAR

June 13, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

You cant compare Clinton to Bush.. I had more money during the 90’s than I have now so thats what I base it on. Gas was cheaper, hell everything was cheaper.. You forgot to add the wounded and the 9/11 victims that died under Bush’s watch because he ignored the warnings.. You guys love to skew the information.

By RCH

June 13, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

Aquagirl Learn you military history. In World War II we fought a two front war. Japan/Africa, then Japan/Germany. Did we ever talk about defunding the war then?

By J

June 13, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

RCH - I don’t do ad-hominem attacks or name-calling, but I do have to call you out on a few things from your 3:47 post:

“Those we fight now are mostly insurgents from other countries held together by religious beliefs.” I believe it was the latest National Intelligence Estimate which contradicted the ‘insurgents from other countries’ claim; rather, it indicated that the vast majority of the violence was home-grown. And, saying that the insurgents are ‘held together by religious beliefs’ would be like describing what happened in Northern Ireland as a conflict between people with ‘shared religious beliefs’ because Catholics and Protestants are Christians. To put it mildly, you’re over-simplifying things.

“Is this not what we are waiting for. The two larger Islamic sects to find a political settlement?” The corollary to this should be ‘how does the presence of American combat troops do anything to actually bring about a political settlement?’ Not an easy question to answer; it would seem that American troops simultaneously keep the lid on a simmering pot, but also add fuel to the fire…

“Maybe defunding the military by the Clinton administration had a profound effect on the readiness of our troops. Should we not make sure this never happens again.” Weren’t the Clinton reductions largely to our strategic military capability; i.e., the ability to fight a global war with the Soviet Union? While the military did shrink in size, much of that had to do with scaling back a military largely designed in the 1960’s to fight WWIII, not conduct counter-insurgency operations in the Middle East. I have yet to see any proof that the Clinton-era military reductions (approved by Republican-run Congresses, no less) has any direct causal link to a lack of readiness or capacity in the military now, for this particular role. (Examples, please?) And, if that were the case, why didn’t the Bush administration run up the size of the military early on?

Just sayin.

By getalife

June 13, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

RCH,

Its an occupation. Our troops are policing their country.

Clinton won his war with a great General Clark.

This occupation’s success depends on a freaking oil law being passed.

The Kurds are blocking it and the occupation is a failure and a complete waste.

You should find something better to do on the job because you suk at blogging.

Geez.

By Aquagirl

June 13, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

Germany fought on two fronts in WWII also. Great success story there.

We had a DRAFT. Something that Shrub is too chickens%#t to do. If he thinks he’s going to fight conventional wars he’s in charge of making sure we have the capability. Instead, he just runs the military into the dirt, with all the forethought and care of a teenager in a stolen SUV. Remember little monkeyboy in his flight suit preening about “mission accomplished”? Tell the families of the 31 soldiers killed this month…so far.

And it’s not surprising that there are fewer casualties when soldiers are deployed, it happened all the time when I was in the military. Separate young people from alcohol and POV’s, and you’ll see a reduction in deaths. Then again, there was no big research and development into artificial limbs or brain injury. What a wonderful list of reasons to be thankful for the war.

By RCH

June 13, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

Aquagirl Are you comparing Iraq and Afghanistan to the United State, the Soviet Union, Great Britian,and half of the rest of the world?

By Aquagirl

June 13, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this

No, idiot, the U.S, Brits, and Soviets were allies in WWII.

Did you mean to ask if I was comparing Iraq and Afghanistan to Japan, Germany, and (snicker) Italy? Or are you just weak on your history? No, I wasn’t. This is a different war entirely. But you still concentrate your forces and efforts to where they will be effective, and not in a conventional war. Dingbat George thinks we can win this war just by bombing the crap out of people and running in tanks. Didn’t he get a little surprise there?

BTW, George’s body count doesn’t include “contractors”, which are mercenaries by a new name. Clinton forgot to outsource most of the military. That makes your stats look bad.

What’s the count with them? Dunno. The Pentagon whoopsied and [forgot to give us that count]http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0613/dailyUpdate.html

By Aquagirl

June 13, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this

Man, I hate it when I forget the parentheses

By @@

June 13, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

Iiiyyyyyeeeee like Rudy. The more I see and hear from him, the more I like him. On the two issues that concern most conservatives…abortion and gun control, I always consider the liberal metropolis over which he served as Mayor. He’s willing to compromise to achieve his intended goals.

What was it he accomplished in NYC? Increased adoptions and decreased abortions.

Gun control? A reduction in crime.

It tells me that he’s innovative in his approach to solving problems.

I also like Fred Thompson. I’m waiting to hear more from him. I want to see how he responds with his feet to the fire.

Any one of the top GOP contenders would suit me with the exception of McCain. When he said that the Immigration Reform Bill was not the one he would have written, I wanted to ask him why he didn’t write his own then. Why would any sane person agree with Tipsy Ted on anything that had to do with immigration? Hell, Ted got the immigration ball rolling in 1965 with his support of eliminating quotas.

That ball only got bigger and uglier as it rolled downhill. Kinda like Tipsy Ted himself after one too many.

I also wanted to mention an interview that Dennis Miller had with Ron Paul. Dennis pretty much agrees with Paul on everything except his stance on Iraq.

When Dennis put forth the question what would you do about Iraq after we leave. Paul said that there was great opportunity for a peace initiative between Palestine and Israel, and that other Arab States such as Saudi Arabia now had the initiative to implement peaceful policies within the Middle East.

Poor Ron, he had no idea that he had just bolstered Bush’s strategic plan in the Middle East.

Rudy always ends his interviews with the comment “I will lead with an optimistic vision”.

Optimism…who can argue against that?

By Blame Canada for libs

June 13, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

We had a DRAFT. Something that Shrub is too chickens%#t to do.

What Aquagirl? And your rapist in chief Bill Clinton dodged the draft and sat by and did nothing while terrorists attacked around the world on US interests for eight years up through the year 2000. Your hypocrisy overloads your hygiene. In short, you stink. Then there’s Al Gore with his comments about Bush the First back in ‘92 on Saddam. You idiots wreak with hypocrisy and cowardice. Stupid is as stupid does. Cowards. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JE48XHKG64

By Aquagirl

June 13, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this

Oh, sorry, Bill didn’t have a connected daddy who could let him fly around Alabama for a couple of years. Talk about hypocrisy….

A coward is someone who will pick on the current military instead of taking the political hit to get the manpower he needs. I expect nothing less from a guy who challenged Americans to respond to 9/11 by running up their credit cards. That spoiled little rich brat thinks the rest of America is as empty-headed and spineless as he is.

By jbmlaw

June 14, 2007 8:17 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I wonder if any of our resident leftists would be willing to rewrite Rudy’s list to match Democrat principles? While I am more than willing to do so, I fear my sarcasm would overwhelm my ethics. I think such a focused statement would be good for our leftist friends, and Rudy’s template would be a good foundation for rewriting.

By jm

June 14, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this

I wonder if Rudy wants to appoint strict constructionists like this judge: Bork vs. Bork

Not as bad as suing over a pair of pants but it is still pretty funny.

By jbmlaw

June 14, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

I tried to rein in my sarcasm. How is this for a statement of Democrat principles? I solicit feedback from our Leftist friends in particular.

• To withdraw all American servicemen from Iraq, without regard to potential consequences. • To facilitate good citizenship by all who wish to live here, we will provide amnesty for all undocumented residents who have no history of criminal behavior. • To restore fiscal discipline and cut wasteful defense spending. • To eliminate the harmful tax cuts passed since 2000. • To impose accountability on Washington, excluding earmarks. • To eliminate global warming, no matter what consequence there is on the economy. • To provide free health care to all Americans. • To ensure abortions remain legal and available to all Americans. • To reform the legal system and appoint flexible judges. • To ensure that every community is prepared for natural disasters and terrorist attacks. • To protect the public schools and ensure a quality education for every child. • To expand fair trade.

By jbmlaw

June 14, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

I see a necessary change to my “Democrat Principles” - change “To impose accountability on Washington” to “To impose accountability on large corporations.”

By RCH

June 14, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw Thanks for the chuckle .Try “A chicken in every pot, or 90k cash in every freezer.”

By jbmlaw

June 14, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

Dear RCH @ 9:04, this is a phenomenon we have observed before here - our leftist friends do not want to embrace any firm beliefs. They will tear down all day, but never try to build anything. I tried to write pretty neutrally, but they cannot comment at all.

Of course, for conservatives, all of these “Democrat principles,” save the “natural disaster” one, are hanging curve balls.

By jbmlaw

June 14, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

Dear RCH, maybe you have the right idea since our Democrat friends will not seriously engage their thoughts. Let’s unleash the sarcasm, and write our own Democrat principles. Start with your $90k in the freezer. I’ll be back later.

By jbmlaw

June 14, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

Where’s TFTT? He could write the best sarcastic Democrat principles.

By Dennis

June 14, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this

By jbmlaw June 14, 2007 8:17 AM “Good morning all. I wonder if any of our resident leftists would be willing to rewrite Rudy’s list to match Democrat principles?”

Perhaps you would be willing to do so? It would seem you practice more on here than you do on law anyway.

You don’t havae to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By RCH

June 14, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw Lets try,” Free speech. A concept only if you agree with our liberal agenda; otherwise you are a racist, homophobe, xenophobe, and another thousand names we can come up with.

By getalife

June 14, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

Lets talk about the gop trying to shut down the House instead of funding Homeland Security.

Looks like they are very weak on national security and are obstructing any bills to get out.

By TW

June 14, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw - It’s not a list of principles. It’s a ‘wish list’ from that pretend world of Republican achievement…kind of like putting on a flight jacket and pretending to be somebody your not…

By RCH

June 14, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

Yet better, lets talk about Hillary’s plan to tax large companies who make excess profits. (Whatever that is). Lets start with her husband who made over 10 million dollars in speeches alone. ( Never knew you could make that much money as a liar)Maybe he needs that cash to entertain his lady friends.

By getalife

June 14, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

RCH,

Don’t you have more American jobs to give to India and China?

I can see why you support the gop, they sell out America too.

Geez.

By RCH

June 14, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

* getalife* Is that why Hillary sat on the board of Walmart. I didnt know she supported the GOP.

By getalife

June 14, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

Yes, cheney is making a killing, literally, on Haliburton.

By RCH

June 14, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

getalife Maybe. Check your 401K. You may be surprised what firms it is invested in. Or like Michael Moore, a more direct approach of owning thousands of shares of Haliburton stock. It always amazes me that individuals who supposedly embrace these liberal ideals suddenly turn their back on them when it comes to their own welfare or pocketbook.

By getalife

June 14, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

RCH,

I do my own investing and do not own stock in companies that makes money off the blood of our troops.

Thats a gop thing and the worst kind of American.

By RCH

June 14, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

getalife I think you would be hard pressed to find firms that don’t directly or indirectly that do business with the DOD. Anything from Chrysler to Johnson and Johnson. Try again.

By Van

June 14, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

getalife,

I have heard it all now.

I guess you hold no oil, or mineral stocks. No health care or food stocks?

Wise up. The military makes use of all commercial manufactures. These companies are making money suppling our troops.

From electronic and high tech gear to the folks that make antiseptic sprays and cremes, not to mention things like condoms and wet wipes. All these support our troops, so I figure they all are making money from this war on terror.

By time for the truth

June 14, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

The Twelve Step Programme to beat the psychotic mental disease of liberalism.

1 … Publicly apologise to Bush and Cheney for the years of irrational visceral hate and unremitting lies by liberals and leftists.

2 … Publicly ask the US Military to forgive and forget the often treasonous, always cowardly official demoNcrat cut and run systematic undermining of the war on towel head terror.

3 … Lengthy jail time for any elected demoNcrat caught pandering to or defending the 20 million or so illegal leeches. Publicly denounce sanctuary cities, and begin the immediate deportation of all illegals and punitive fining of ALL exploiting employers. Liberals will proudly and noisily be in the vanguard of ordinary Americans demanding an electrified 2000 mile fence and 100% sealing of the border.

4 … Fully co-operate with federal authorities in a wide ranging, no holds barred investigation into the long eight criminal years of the lying perjuring Arkansas rapist’s venal pardon selling corrupt linguine spined terrorist enabling administration.

5 … Immediately cease all racebaiting, telling blacks that the days of racially divisive self serving bigoted caucuses are over and that racist quotas and racial spoils are illegal and will not be tolerated in decent society. Secretary Rice will be given a written and/or televised apology in all liberal media.

6 … The execrable hatepig Howard Dean will be fired as DNC Fuehrer and will be forced to spend a week in medieval like stocks for conservatives to throw anything they want at him on a Fox News Channel Comedy Special in aid of the troops.

7… Partial Birth Abortion will be retrospectively perpetrated on both the House and Senate demoNcrat members of the Legal Committees and the worthless treasonous House and Senate Leadership.

8… The Fairness Doctrine will be immediately applied to ALL leftist party of hate media, allowing conservatives fair and balanced access - as liberals already undeniably have on Fox News - to the likes of ABC, CNN, PMSNBC, CBS (if anyone’s still watching), NBC, CSPAN et al.

9… demoncrats in Congress will immediately approve the decades overdue very swift construction of around 20 large new oil refineries in the San Fran Sicko, Boston, LA, Seattle, Portland, NYC, NJ, Miami and Charleston SC areas.

10… Liberals will endlessly publicly apologise and indulge in a 1000 days of shrill public self criticism for despicably promoting the depravity of homosexuality and being very soft on child molestors. The sick and twisted evils of Restorative Justice will forever be wiped from history.

11 … The USAF will be unleashed on numerous leftist liberal targets, including Code Pinko’s bunker, the G SOREos funded moveyourbowels.org. media matters, The NY Slimes building, what’s left of Dead Air America hate radio etc.

12 … Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Newt Gingrich, Dick Cheney, Zel Miller and a dozen other statesman like visionary conservative leaning thinkers will be honoured by the demonCRats in a year long DNC funded programme celebrating true diversity of thought!!

By Shrink

June 14, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

If liberalism is a psychotic affliction then conservatism is leprosy of the mind and soul. Being a psychologist I can tell you through personal experience that patients that call themselves conservative are the most screwed up individuals, have the most dysfunctional families, higher instances of physical and mental abuse, and alchohol and drug issues then those that characterize themselves as liberal. Conservatives are very conflicted.

By getalife

June 14, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

“In a lawsuit that harks back to the Enron scandal, the Bush administration is at odds with the federal agency that oversees securities markets as well as with state attorneys general and consumer and investor advocates.President Bush personally weighed in with his views before the administration decided not to support investors whose securities fraud case is now before the Supreme Court.”

I bet you losers invested in Enron.

Geez.

By Mike

June 14, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

Andy you are a homosexual. Why do you come in here bashing your own kind like this?

By getalife

June 14, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

lies,

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By who the HELL is andy?

June 14, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

@ queeralicious Mike

correction bubbaturd (hypothetically assuming you meant yours truly) … I WAS homosexual - then I saw YOU!!! PUT ME RIGHT OFF being a queer I can tell ya!!!

BTW that was but a clever witty joke - I am not queer. Your sister knows that all too well!!!

By Mike

June 14, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

Sorry you feel that way Andy. We had quite a thing going there for awhile. You gave one excellent hummer. Sorry to see it end.

By jbmlaw

June 14, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Dear Dennis @ 9:21, certainly we do not expect you to read everything on the blog, but I posted the list you solicit @ 8:32, with one modification @ 8:53. I thought I did a pretty honest job capturing Democrat ideals, such as they are. As I said @ 8:32, I solicit your thoughts on my list. Same note to Getalife and TW and all other leftists. In the meantime you will have to forgive us – since you guys will not acknowledge any particular beliefs, we conservatives intend to mock Democrat irresoluteness. TFTT’s 11:14 12 Step program is better than I conceived.

Eight Real Democrat principles:

1) To increase social security and welfare spending until the country is bankrupt

2) To stop global warming, regardless of the cause, even if it means bankrupting GM or retuning to a 17th century lifestyle

3) To criminalize everything, since people are too stupid to think for themselves

4) To prohibit CBO identification of Democrat spending earmarks, so Democrat politicians cannot be caught with their fingers in the till – stupid Jefferson

5) To blame all evils of society on the large salaries of major corporation CEOs, even if they have to work harder than the better-paid professional athletes and Hollywood stars

6) To create safe-havens for Moslem terrorists, and to always grant the greatest court protections to foreign enemy combatants, wherever found

7) To guarantee that parents have as little say as possible in the education of their children, since parents are too dumb to know how we have to indoctrinate their babies

8) To rein in talk radio and Fox News, as the truth undermines the credibility of Democrats generally; to compel all Americans to get all of their news from ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the AP, since our guys control those outlets

By time for the truth

June 14, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

poor old greaseball gutless maggot brain - senility has arrived at last!

I used to be a leftist cowardly parrot - but I’m alright now!!

I used to be a leftist cowardly parrot - but I’m alright now!!

I used to be a leftist cowardly parrot - but I’m alright now!!

I used to be a leftist cowardly parrot - but I’m alright now!!

I used to be a leftist cowardly parrot - but I’m alright now!!

I used to be a leftist cowardly parrot - but I’m alright now!!

I used to be a leftist cowardly parrot - but I’m alright now!!

I used to be a leftist cowardly parrot - but I’m alright now!!

continued ad nauseaum until the next GOP president is elected in 08

snigger snigger smirk snigger

By time for the truth

June 14, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

We had quite a thing going there for awhile. You gave one excellent hummer. Sorry to see it end.

poor old queeralicious mike - that COCKtail of AIDS meds has really messed you up!!

YIKES!!!

it’s been violated by maggotbrain - or was it aborted foreskin or maybe Mrs JM Karr-NAMBLA (nee rednekkks) …

By getalife

June 14, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Soon ICE will pick up the illegal immigrant “lies” and ship him back to England’s mental facility where he belongs.

By Mike

June 14, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

That’s certainly the pot calling the kettle black is it not Andy? Either I caught it from you or you from me. So what say we get together just one more time. We certainly have nothing left to lose.

By time for the truth

June 14, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

poor wittle greaseball maggotbrain … did the nasty clever witty erudite naturalised American Englishman effortlessly humiliate its knuckle dragging gutless treasonous hate Ammerica arse again???

never mind diddums - you can always gloriously set fire to yourself in empty solidarity with the scum of Fartah now finally (after nearly 50 brutish corrupt years) getting theirs in the fabulous never ending Gaza Civil War … pop pop pop - not murderous Hamarse bullets being fired but my popcorn popper popping more popcorn as the craven CNN/BBC bleating and whining gets into interstellar overdrive!!!

By Mike

June 14, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

Now Andy, that wasn’t nice. Don’t you remember all the times that I went out of my way to buy those kosher sausages for you to play with? Who else would have done that for you Andy?

By Geronimo Guantanamo!

June 14, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Getalife unarguably the biggest stooge on this blog. That clown wants no personal investment in companies that suck the blood dry from US soldiers for nasty profits? What kind of idiot says that? I’m with rch - you’d be hard pressed to find a corporation out there that does not have direct or indirect ties to our military. How’s that for supporting the troops? My take is that’s the same kind of idiot like Angelina Jolie who wants to ban Fox from interviewing her on her new film touting freedom of the press! What the hell is wrong with liberals? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,282173,00.html Getalilfe and Jolie aside, the most stupid ideological and illogical decision made by libs was Broward county threatening to cut it’s ties to a radio station used for hurricane emergency information all because Rush L. was played on it! Link here. Can you believe that? Endanger civilian life because someone is expressing freedom of speech and markets. All of those weirdos tout freedom of the press and freedom of speech and then want to control it. There has to be a reason why liberals are the pathetic way they are. Perhaps they are plugged into some Matrix where everyone else is dealing with reality. I’ve been around a long time and never seen such sheer idiocy coming from the far left these days. It’s almost like that mentality is a made up joke - but it’s not. Those people are on Pluto man.

By ICEagent

June 14, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

By getalife

June 14, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Soon ICE will pick up the illegal immigrant “lies” and ship him back to England’s mental facility where he belongs.

Sir, if you know his location we would certainly like to deport Andy back to his native Israel.

By time for the truth

June 14, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

temper temper queeralacious mike

you’ll have the resident obsessive queers Mrs JM Karr-NAMBLA nee rednekkks and aborted foreskin hitting on you (hopefully with a heavy baseball bat) - trying to find a fellow AIDS sufferer for that perfect final tandem ride off Spaghetti Junction on Liberal Queens Queer Pride Day in Atlanta!!!

got that BP petrol can ready yet maggot brain???

By time for the truth

June 14, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

its long past time to put that simpering homo-nazi jew hating ICE agent on ice!! (gedditt??)

By getalife

June 14, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

ICE agent,

Check the crack houses and you will find “lies”.

lil injun,

Yes, me loves me some Angelina Jolie and you can put me with her anytime.

Thanks.

By time for the truth

June 14, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

the gutless greaseball maggot brain’s bigotry oozes out again … “injun” … is that official demoNcrat speak for Native American’s you genocidal loving butch cowboy - or is that cowgirl … stirrups n whips n all??!!!

By getalife

June 14, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

ICE agent,

On second thought, he is in a meth lab.

Geez.

By HAROLD

June 14, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

HAROLD SAYS IF GAMBLING IS ILLEGAL WHY ARE WE ALLOWED TO VOTE

By time for the truth

June 14, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

err … better you’d go and lie down harold … got some bad news for ya and great news for the rest of us!!

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE mate!!!

Its that pesky mental health record of yours, the criminally insane can’t vote - sorry bubba!!!

By time for the truth

June 14, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

Those people are on Pluto man.

NASA Newsflash for ya GG …

these liberal sickos are actually leaving Bwarney Fwank behind and heading for Uranus!

By RCH

June 14, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

Time for the truth That doesn’t seem to stop a lot of them. Glad the Ga. supreme Court upheld the Voter I.D. Law. You can’t drive without I.D,cannot bank,or buy alcohol, but some would allow our most sacred trust as a citizen not to be screened. What nonsense.

By getalife

June 14, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

“Unpopular Bush still a hit with white Baptists President George W. Bush may have low approval ratings overall, but he can still bring a crowd of Southern Baptists to their feet. Conservative white evangelical Protestants remain his most loyal base.

Religious extremists in 3 faiths share views Violent Muslim, Christian and Jewish extremists invoke the same rhetoric of “good” and “evil.”

Freaking radical wingnuts.

Geez.

By time for the truth

June 14, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Well said RCH.

The voter ID, given the decades of liberal electoral abuse all over the USA is just basic commonsense, despite their cowardly vile racebaiting and demagoguery. NO ONE whose actually entitled will be stopped from voting. You also can’t buy fa gs - actual English slang for cigarettes - when you’re young without ID. Voting is an earned right, earned by NOT being a felon and following the reasonable enough electoral laws.

Wittily and mercilessly ridiculing the crude and vulgar abusive left on here is the ONLY way to finally shut them up. They simply cannot debate honestly. The one’s who actually honestly debate issues I have NO problem with at all, free speech is for all of us - and the lefties who just post homo themed/crude abuse just get it back.

By getalife

June 14, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Libby goes to prison!

Bwa.

By Van

June 14, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Are you on illegal drugs?

Religious extremists in 3 faiths share views Violent Muslim, Christian and Jewish extremists invoke the same rhetoric of “good” and “evil.”

I guess all those young christians straping on bombs and taking out a bus load of people is being hidden by the right wing media.

What a moron.

True, centuries ago, in Spain, the Christians waged and won a religious war against followers of True Islam and cleaned then out of the Iberian peninsula. Europe wage a successful war against devote Muslims, but what is a few centuries, we are all the same.

Yes, centuries ago, Jews on a mountain top fortress committed suicide to keep from being captured by the Romans.

But I find not corrolation between the three monotheist faiths that you allude to.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

June 14, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

Greetings from His Holiness, Pope redecks - Amerikkka’s Al Qaeda I, from Our Temporal Home in Vermont.

We are getting ready for a trip to Europe, and We will send Mr. Wooten and his Klan a missive in the form of a postcard from there soon. That is, if he is still employed by the time We get there…

By time for the truth

June 14, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

doubtless Mrs JM Karr-NAMBLA nee rednekkks is desperately hoping for some very quiet uninterrupted time with a few of the younger Boys Choir of Vienna!!

it will be hilarious to see that when NAMBLA discovers its on the no fly list … it will fleetingly end up on Fox News as a far left whacko going on an unhinged rampage at Logan Airport!!!

By Dennis

June 14, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

By jbmlaw June 14, 2007 11:43 AM Dear Dennis @ 9:21, certainly we do not expect you to read everything on the blog, but I posted the list you solicit @ 8:32, with one modification @ 8:53. I thought I did a pretty honest job capturing Democrat ideals, such as they are. As I said @ 8:32…you will have to forgive us – since you guys will not acknowledge any particular beliefs, we conservatives intend to mock Democrat irresoluteness. TFTT’s 11:14 12 Step program is better than I conceived.”

“we conservatives” tend not to know the corrupion and lying and b****** that is going on within your own party that would not only keep Americans confined to the controls of an elite/corporate group, regardless of whether those Americans are democrat or republican, and including yourself -a lawyer, who, if he’s worth a damn, ought to be able to recognize it for himself, but doesn’t.

But to placate your imbecility on that matter, and not embarass you, a lawyer, further, I will condescend and reply to your “eight principles” which are all crap for the sake of filling up your time hoping some clients will come in.

Eight Real Democrat principles:

1) To increase social security and welfare spending until the country is bankrupt

I see the U.S. borrowing money from China to fight the Iraq war, not to prop up social security.

2) To stop global warming, regardless of the cause, even if it means bankrupting GM or retuning to a 17th century lifestyle

Since a good planet is hard to find, perhaps a little return to some 17th century practices might not be a bad idea. The alternative is to embrace your view and the corporate view and continue looking at profits first and to hell with the planet.

But, if I’m wrong about that, show me/us one corporation that is willing to do with less profit if it will mean improving the safety and productivity of the planet. C’mon, find ONE, you can do it.

3) To criminalize everything, since people are too stupid to think for themselves

“Stupid”. You’re the guy who’s supporting the “within” takeover of your own government

4) To prohibit CBO identification of Democrat spending earmarks, so Democrat politicians cannot be caught with their fingers in the till – stupid Jefferson

How ‘bout the little “earmark” intended to allow the Bush/Republican administration to appoint AGs without congressional approval. YOU, a lawyer!, supported that.

5) To blame all evils of society on the large salaries of major corporation CEOs, even if they have to work harder than the better-paid professional athletes and Hollywood stars

Oh!, for example, Jeff Skilling? He was working harder than any CEO until he got caught “working too hard”.

But, hey, I’m not sitting on my a* watching anything. I haven’t for years. There’s nothing to watch. Even teenagers (finally) are beginning to say that.

But as “your CEOs” work hard to bring all of the media under the control of only two or three mega corporations, YOU will have less and less local news, more and more managed news (because you might be too stupid to understand the complexities of the “real world”).

6) To create safe-havens for Moslem terrorists, and to always grant the greatest court protections to foreign enemy combatants, wherever found

No one approves of Muslim terrorists, not even Muslims. I have no doubt that if the U.S. would leave the Middle East, they would solve their own problems within three years. And maybe (tho doubtfully) we would deal with our own terrorist who presently occupy the White House.

7) To guarantee that parents have as little say as possible in the education of their children, since parents are too dumb to know how we have to indoctrinate their babies

Some folks are teachers, and some folks are lawyers who spend their time on this forum instead of practicing law.

8) To rein in talk radio and Fox News, as the truth undermines the credibility of Democrats generally; to compel all Americans to get all of their news from ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the AP, since our guys control those outlets

See, here you go again, showing your “intelligence”(?). Who gives a damn about what Rush or O’Reilly, or George Will, or Chris Matthews or Blitzer or Russert, or McLaughlin have to say? If you aren’t smart enough to smell their piles for what it is, how in the hell do you call yourself a lawyer?

If that’s the best you can do, I can beat you in court w/o half trying.

Oh!, and Jim Wooten.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By jbmlaw

June 14, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

Dear Dennis @ 3:01, I understand reading comprehension is not your strong point. While you responded to the joke list I published later, I really wanted to hear a leftist view of the 8:30 list. Does it say what you believe, or not?

By getalife

June 14, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Van,

Does Eric Rudolph ring a bell in your tiny brain?

Radical wingnuts threatend the judge in the Libby case.

All of you should be sent to Gitmo.

Lunatics.

By getalife

June 14, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

“Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani, in an indirect swipe at President Bush, said Thursday the overwhelming attitude that the U.S. is headed in the wrong direction reflects a lack of leadership.”

You vote gop and you will get the same thing.

By RCH

June 14, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

getalife I am sure you will have a sprinkle of individuals on the extreme. But what does it tell you when 25% of Islamic men between the ages of 18 to 35 think it is permissible to kill in defense of their religion. I heard he received messages that were contrary to his ruling but threatening a judge is considered a federal offense. If this was the case the FBI would already have begun an investigation.

By THE GOD OF WAR

June 14, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Scooter’s going to Jail Jail with that Bail… Hey Dad.. I’m in jaaail, I like it here, tell mom I’m in jail..

By Dennis

June 14, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

• To withdraw all American servicemen from Iraq, without regard to potential consequences.

Yes. Saddam was a bad man. Had he not become “independent” the U.S. would still be supporting him.

• To facilitate good citizenship by all who wish to live here, we will provide amnesty for all undocumented residents who have no history of criminal behavior.

Legality should be the issue, not amnesty. Legal, yes, illegal, no. Until we get that straight, if we begin to make exceptions we will remain mired in the mud.

• To restore fiscal discipline and cut wasteful defense spending.

This certainly is in the eye of the beholder. At some point or other a corporation should be able to stand on its own w/o government help - in the same manner as you want individuals to do that.

• To eliminate the harmful tax cuts passed since 2000.

I’ve just answered that.

• To impose accountability on Washington, excluding earmarks.

See above.

• To eliminate global warming, no matter what consequence there is on the economy.

If the “free market” works now, why would it not work with necessary changes to protect the planet.

• To provide free health care to all Americans.

To provide free health care for those who cannot afford it. I am personally acquainted with those who can, who can’t, and who won’t. I have no sympathy for the last.

• To ensure abortions remain legal and available to all Americans.

As needed, it should be. I don’t support abortions as a “trendy” thing to do.

• To reform the legal system and appoint flexible judges.

The law, as I understand it, is supposedly based on what is ethical. Unfortunately, we are seeing that judges are being supported on their philosophies.

Unfortunately, as the judge who refused to take down the ten commandments in his courtroom, our courts are lacking in judgement - as is evidenced by the recent Supreme Court against the woman who was being discriminated againest via her salary.

That the Supreme Court stated she should have filed a discrimination suit within six months is discrimination within itself.

• To ensure that every community is prepared for natural disasters and terrorist attacks.

Agree.

• To protect the public schools and ensure a quality education for every child.

A broad issue, but generally, I agree.

• To expand fair trade.

“Fair trade”. Damn, that’s a good one.

But as the man said, “[Everybody knows McDonalds can survive w/o McDougal-Douglas]” to force others to trade the way the U.S. tells them too.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By THE GOD OF WAR

June 14, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

Ignorance has been reigning supreme here lately.. Well Hell all over the Great United States..

By rarringt

June 14, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

Good afternoon all,

Jbmlaw, as one of the “resident leftists” on this blog (heh), frankly I like Rudy’s 12 points. I imagine my ideological compatriots also find the list to be fairly acceptable.

They make good sense and are eminently reasonable. I think the reason you haven’t heard that much from the left today is that Rudy’s innovative agenda substantially replicates the democratic platform that has been in place for over a decade.

Rudy’s not really interested in the Andy/RCH/Markus-types of the world. He recognizes their views to be extreme and increasingly marginalized and irrelevant. He paid attention to what happened last year, and knows that to win, he’s got to appeal to the reasonable middle. His agenda reflects that.

What will be interesting is the means by which he intends to accomplish all that. As always, the devil’s in the details.

However, without regard to ideological fealty, any candidate that can get our country to focus on those items would do us all a great service. After all, it’s the same agenda as with Hilary, Barack and J. Edwards. Heh.

By Keyboard Warrior

June 14, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

RCH -

Some more details about our under equipped military —

The Bush administration and military leaders in Washington are always claiming that they will do anything to support American troops fighting in Iraq. That makes it all the more infuriating to learn that, for more than two years, the Pentagon largely ignored urgent requests from field commanders for better armor-protected vehicles that could have saved untold lives and limbs.

Improvised explosive devices, or I.E.D.’s, can blast through the flat underbelly of the military’s standard Humvees, maiming and killing the soldiers within. These devices, a low-tech response to America’s overwhelming military power, are now causing 70 percent to 80 percent of the American combat deaths in Iraq.

More than two years ago, according to newly disclosed documents, Marine commanders in Al Anbar Province, a center of the Sunni insurgency, submitted an urgent request for more than 1,100 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles, or MRAPs, that have V-shaped bottoms able to deflect blasts from below. For reasons yet to be satisfactorily explained, military officials initially sat on the request and then ordered relatively few.

Some, second-guessing the judgment of the battlefield commanders, apparently felt that Humvees with upgraded armor could do the job. Others may have been reluctant to invest billions of dollars in vehicles that might have little use after Iraq. Turf battles were probably also a factor, as a large-scale purchase might threaten future weapons programs. But Iraq is the war that Americans are fighting and dying in today.

Only now are Pentagon leaders, prodded by Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. and other critics on Capitol Hill, rushing to ramp up production. Congress has accelerated funding to buy more than 7,000 of the vehicles by early next year, and the military services are seeking some 21,000 in all, at a cost that could exceed $20 billion. Defense Secretary Robert Gates has declared his determination to “produce as many of these vehicles and get them into the field as fast as possible,” though the precise number needed has yet to be established.

Unfortunately, the MRAPs will remain vulnerable to the deadliest I.E.D.’s, known as “explosively formed penetrators,” which destroy vehicles from the side. The military is looking for ways to add armor to the MRAPs and is testing another new vehicle to counter that threat.

If the small companies that make these vehicles are not able to produce the quantities needed quickly, President Bush and Secretary Gates ought to make this a crash program and enlist major manufacturers.

There can be no excuse for failing to provide the best possible protection for American troops in this disastrous war.

— New York Times - 6/14/07

By getalife

June 14, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Rudy said he will send more troops into the failed occupation of Iraq.

Just more failed leadership.

No thanks.

By catlady

June 14, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

“For reasons yet to be satisfactorily explained, military officials initially sat on the request and then ordered relatively few.”

…

“Turf battles were probably also a factor, as a large-scale purchase might threaten future weapons programs.”

Meaning, Halliburton, et al, does not have a way to profit off making those improved MRAPs. When they do, we will have them in spades, even if we don’t need them anymore.

By catlady

June 14, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

Looky what our great Senator I said on Athens Radio today (see political insider blog)

By @@

June 14, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this

Shame on rarringt for trying to put Rudy on a platform with the likes of Hillary, Obama & Edwards…

They make good sense and are eminently reasonable. I think the reason you haven’t heard that much from the left today is that Rudy’s innovative agenda substantially replicates the democratic platform that has been in place for over a decade.

Those three would disagree on all but possibly three of Rudy’s promises.

I think you guys are afraid of Rudy. If he’s the Republican nominee he’ll take the dems and take the WH in ‘08.

You would like to convince conservatives that he’s a full-blown liberal. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Well, there are the 3 top contenders running on the Democratic ticket. Truth has always kept it’s distance from them when campaigning.

Nice try though.

By rarringt

June 14, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this

Hi @@,

Once again, you impress with your boundless ability to distort the truth by dogmatically following disinformation from the usual suspects (talk radio/faux news, anything associated with Ms. Coulter, etc.).

Read their policy papers (they all have them). Try to keep an open mind. Then respond.

Just because Rush and Sean say they’re bad people doesn’t make it so.

Really….

By jm

June 14, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this

meet the new boss same as the old boss …

By @@

June 14, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

Hi rarringt, I’ve never listened to Ann Coulter; never listened to talk radio Rushs’ or anyone’s; have occasionally watched O’Reilly when one of his guests from the left interests me; and have only watched Hannity maybe three times. Can’t tell you why.

I do have an open mind, but my brains aren’t falling out.

I’ve seen Hillary in action as well as Edwards. Polished, professional politicians, and Obama is beginning to look just like them. I’m not a big fan of Romney’s for that very reason.

Bye Bye now.

By Blog Dawg

June 14, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

Oh blow it out your a$$, rarringt. You quasi holier than thou libs just don’t like @@ mentioning she has no interest in any of your idiots running for president. Neither do I. Regarding an open mind, why can’t lib pinheads like you get it through your stone(d) heads that maybe not every Conservative even LISTENS to talk radio or reads Coulter columns? Finally, why can’t pinhead libs like you get it through your feathered colons that just because someone doesn’t agree with YOUR idea of how we should all live is deserving of such snide and condescending comments? You jerks on the left absolutely disgust me. Take a walk.

By rarringt

June 14, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

JM,

Bosses are all the same. What’s interesting is what happens when you become the boss….

By Political Foreskin

June 16, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this

They dug up a ‘57 Plymouth buried for 50 years? Of course, the hubcaps were missing. I wonder if they found a couple of bobby-soxers having consensual oral sex in the back seat? There was a line of cars stretching around the block for a shot at the stores of gasoline buried with the Plymouth.

Emory has an early christian/jewish biblical exhibit. Artifacts include a dead Sea Scroll, fragments of the Second Temple and a whale shark to explain the miracle of the 5 loaves and fishes.

I guess an autopsy showed how the whale shark died. They found a 1870s era bullet lodged in its gizzard.

MR BLANK, TAKE DOWN THAT WHALE!

By Political Foreskin

June 16, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

Guilianni’s List

I will arm Sunni Insurgents with guns that only fire backwards.

I will use the term “consensual oral sex” to distract Americans from the Rape of Baghdad.

I will erect a statue as tall as Lady Liberty to Monica Lewinski for all she has done for Repudlickans.

I will never wear mismatching Prada Pumps and Purses.