Thinking Right

By jbmlaw

June 8, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. Cover up Jim – you offered an argument in defense of “sex offenders.” You are absolutely correct on your logic and on the merits, but that won’t indemnify you from the critics. Like most of our over-legislating, the “sex offender” appellation is so loosely applied that many drunken mistakes in judgment qualify. I know there are some bad folks out there, but I’ll bet fewer than half of the crimes of the “sex offenders” are the sort that would cause a normal thinking person any real concern, at least not if they knew the details. Good thing you are not running for Senate, but sometimes you have to break some eggs to make an omelet.

I have mixed feelings about Medicaid abortions. 99%+ abortions are evil of course, but good conservative girls do not have abortions. Every Medicaid abortion keeps another leftist from drawing on the public welfare. Still, it almost seems Nazi-like to fund the pre-birth execution of leftists that way, almost like eugenics. Strange that only leftists really want to execute leftists that way.

I don’t think I even know what traditional American food is. Mrs. jbmlaw, on our normal Thursday night out, is usually torn between Mexican, Chinese, Italian, or salad bar (although last night I talked her into Ryan’s – I guess the Americans won for a change? Don’t tell the leftists, it will spoil their day.)

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

June 8, 2007 8:09 AM | Link to this

Nice Cherry Pick about New Jersey rail Jim.

But you failed to mention that NJT already has extensive networks of people moving trains serving most of suburban NJ. This is done in cooperation with NS.

Take a look at this map:

Two weeks ago I was in the city, and besides being able to move around freely via a subway, I was able to go visit friends in NJ via commuter rail. It would be the equivalent of going from Atlanta to Canton, but without a car.

That was really nice. Too bad Georgia and Atlanta lack leadership and foresight in this area.

By SharonH

June 8, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this

*Give state School Superintendent Kathy Cox and the state board credit for the better performance on a more rigorous curriculum and tests. *

That’s funny because I can remembe when the students did poorly, you blamed students and parents alone. But when they do well, Cox gets the credit? That’s a neat trick…

By catlady

June 8, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

Please cite exactly WHICH grade and subject shows a substantial improvment in CRCT scores? To be significant it needs to be at least 5% higher.

By catlady

June 8, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this

P And remember HOW Many grades take it and HOW MANY subjects there are. Check it out before you believe the pronouncement. To see improvment worth commenting on, it needs to be more than a couple of point in a couple of subjects out of—how many—40 possibilities? And then comment on the grades and subjects that significantly LOST ground. Please.

By sct

June 8, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

Oh God, yes Jim, just the mention of “Pray for Rain” is going to send all the liberals into an enraged protest! Lol.

You hate it when “ordinary citizen’s ill-chosen words are used to represent a class or a community as bigoted.”

But if some out of touch kook from the left does it you get out your “oh the humanity” routine going in a hurry.

You all should try the prayer Rev Haggard used to use for droughts, here’s a little sample…..

It’s Raining Men! Hallelujah! - It’s Raining Men! Amen!

I’m gonna go out to run and let myself get

Absolutely soaking wet!

It’s Raining Men! Hallelujah!

It’s Raining Men! Every Specimen!

Tall, blonde, dark and lean

Rough and tough and strong and mean

Btw, this year I’m praying for rain and I am also praying that this Christmas everyone says “Merry Christmas.”

By RCH

June 8, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

Artc,getalife, Emlia, Southern Democrate, Debbiedoright, I am sure you are recovering from your hangover today. The bill is dead. Maybe now they will close the borders and write a bill that makes sense.

By catlady

June 8, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

P And remember HOW Many grades take it and HOW MANY subjects there are. Check it out before you believe the pronouncement. To see improvment worth commenting on, it needs to be more than a couple of point in a couple of subjects out of—how many—40 possibilities? And then comment on the grades and subjects that significantly LOST ground. Please.

By sct

June 8, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

““congestion is our friend,” reports one of the participants. For those in public office who agree, the ballot box is our friend. Fix it or go.”

Are you kidding me? “fix it or go.”??? Since when?

We just re-relected a Govornor that has done absolutely nothing for Atlanta traffic. Remember all those great things he was going to do before he got elected the first time. One proposal would have computerized the traffic light system in metro-Atlanta. A project that is not glamorous but could provide immediate traffic relief and cut down on gas use and pollution.

Sonny campaigned on stopping the outer perimeter. Fix it or go?

We are certainly not telling our elected officials to “fix it.” We are telling them the opposite everytime we elect a government in Georgia that is anti-Atlanta, Republican or Democrat.

Atlanta’s traffic woes will continue as long as the rest of the State treats this area as nothing but a cash cow.

I nominate Sam Olens to be the next Govornor of Georgia.

By catlady

June 8, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this

P And remember HOW Many grades take it and HOW MANY subjects there are. Check it out before you believe the pronouncement. To see improvment worth commenting on, it needs to be more than a couple of point in a couple of subjects out of—how many—40 possibilities? And then comment on the grades and subjects that significantly LOST ground. Please.

By Erin

June 8, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this

This atheist liberal doesn’t mind if Sonny prays for rain and asks everyone else to. In the meantime, I’m getting off my knees and off my behind to conserve water and ensure my community does, too.

And, thanks, Jim, for telling poor women it’s okay for them to emerge from a dangerous pregnancy alive, but not necessarily healthy.

Which is more dangerous, legislating from the bench or diagnosing from the legislature?

By Erin

June 8, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

This atheist liberal doesn’t mind if Sonny prays for rain and asks everyone else to. In the meantime, I’m getting off my knees and off my behind to conserve water and ensure my community does, too.

And, thanks, Jim, for letting poor women know they’re allowed to emerge from a dangerous pregnancy alive, but not necessarily healthy.

Which is more dangerous, legislating from the bench or diagnosing from the legislature?

By Janine

June 8, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

Morning, Mr. W…..Check out yesterday’s GET SCHOOLED blog for the low down on those CRCT scores. In GA. “progress” is just a word in the dictionary. Manipulation of numbers is NOT progress. When and if….[it ain’t gonna happen]…. Ms. Cox releases the REAL numbers [see GS blog for specifics], maybe you will be as distressed as we are, not only about the CRCT as a whole, but also about the chocolate dipped, but poisonous presentation to the public.

By Daedalus

June 8, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this

School test scores up? Not in math and science where Georgia students continue to lag behind other states.

No surprise there, after all, evolution, which is the backbone of biological study, is not in taught in Georgia’s schools as teachers and adminsitrators are afraid of the “guns and Jesus” crowd so common in Georgia.

Its too bad Kathy Cox lacks the courage to stand up and say that teaching science means teaching evolution.

We’ve already got enough home-schooled misanthropes in Georgia, at least let our public school science teachers try and teach actual science to the children of the many Georgians who want our children to succeed and be competitive as adults.

By lazermike

June 8, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this

Of course, when incompetent leaders are on the wrong course, Jim’s advice also is to leave them be.

By Dave

June 8, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

Its time to end the Katrina occupation of the good hearted parts of America. We have paid generously for their laziness.

The government and especially the EPA has LOVED traffic gridock. Sometime ago they decided that making it hurt was the only way to force us to get public transportation. Well we are stubborn and do not want public transportation. Expand the roads and fire the EPA.

By Janine

June 8, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

Daidalus…RE: “It’s too bad Kathy Cox lacks the courage to stand up and say that teaching science means teaching evolution”

Don’t think ‘courage’ is involved here. Seems she is lacking in basic knowledge. Wasn’t Ms. Cox one of the ‘ring leaders’ in the movement to expel the teaching of evolution in Ga schools?

By Southern Democrat

June 8, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

Jim’s a Cherry Picker,

As someone who has lived in cities with effective mass transit (New York, Washington, London, and Madrid) and two that don’t (Atlanta and Miami), I agree with your sentiments whole-heartedly.

The other glaring flaw in Mr. Wooten’s advocacy of “truck rail” versus commuter rail is that passenger cars, not trucks, are responsible for congestion on GA 400 and the Connector (where trucks not on a delivery are banned). The irony, here, of course is that prices go down and the environment improves if we get cars off the road to ease the mobility of trucks.

Mayor Bloomberg may be just about my favorite politician currently in office. Between his advocacy of handgun control, a balanced budget, adequate pension funding, telling people to “get a life” when they are obsessing over terrorism, and now in implementing an effective congestion plan with a commuter tax, this is a guy who just makes sense.

By Adam

June 8, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

A new rail corridor sounds like a good idea, however I’m not sold on the idea of public funding for it especially as it would be built for the exclusive benefit of one private entity. The comment made yesterday by a Norfolk Southern executive struck me as odd. “The railroad also is prepared to invest a lot in this corridor … up to an amount that provides us an acceptable return on our investment.” If there is not a sufficient economic need that would justify the investment, why should you and I be expected to fill that gap? At least I am permitted to use the public roads at will. I doubt I would be allowed to cruise along the new railroad on a handcart.

I agree with the comments regarding Doraville. The petitioners are lamenting the shift in demographics, but there is no place for government to dictate what particular products are sold in a store. The market forces are simply responding to demand as is appropriate. Its not a question of Political Correctness, just a question of the proper limits on the role of government.

By catlady

June 8, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

jbmlaw, I find your statement on eugenics interesting, and perhaps apt. However, funny how many girls from conservative, right-to-life families (Baptist) with boyfriends who are from conservative, right-to-life families (Baptist) that I know have undergone abortions. Because, in THEIR case, it was NECESSARY, according to them. I wonder if data has ever been gathered on religious leanings of women undergoing abortion? It seems counterintuitive, doesn’t it? Sometimes, however, when it is YOU who have an unwanted pregnancy (not you personally, of course) those ideals and convictions can become superceded by practical or “selfish” considerations. And, as we all have seen, “selfish” frequently rules the day (see Iraq, Cheyney’s military service, Clinton’s adultery, etc.).

By concerned

June 8, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

Noticed improvement in CRCT scores??? Also notice the 60 point differnce in CRCT scores and norm referenced tests (ITBS, CAT, etc.) Oh most people can’t notice it, It was not discussed in the AJC.

By Dusty

June 8, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

Ah, Jim Wooten, I like your subtly this morning, Yep, “set a withdrawal deadline to get the people out of Atlanta. 110 were killed last year.” That’s the only cutnrun of which I would approve.

And Jim, you should know better than to be optimistic about Georgia’s school systems. That is not politically correct.

jbmlaw is correct in suggesting that we like variety in our mealtime choices, even in Doraville. All kinds are a culinary adventure. But, I tell you, ham & eggs & grits are hard to beat. Southern!!

And it looks like the Alabama legislators didn’t get their biscuits yesterday. Either that or things got pretty boring. Get ready for more “Alabama” jokes. Shades of Ben Tillman or whatever that cane-trasher’s name was over in South Carolina’s capitol long time ago.

By Charles

June 8, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

The mayor of Doraville, Ray Jenkins was out of order. He certainly doesn’t have my respect. This is a free country. The lady should have been allowed to read the petition. It is the council’s duty to affirm or deny after the reading. I seriously doubt she would have been pilloried.

It was Henry Ross Perot, H. Ross Perot, who said that practically all of the great ideas in America were originated by ordinary citizens. I think officials need to do a little more research, soul searching, before denying ordinary citizens the right to address the council.

I hate it when an extraordinary, misguided, individual erroneously think they know what ordinary citizens should and should not say.

By melo

June 8, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

“Health” is the loophole that guts abortion restrictions. The mind of a DIMWIT RIGHTY

How can GOOD HEALTY, which we all cherish, be considered an impediment by a sane person?? I wonder,really wonder about some human species. Wooten, u are an example of wasted sperms,female ovaries and one Redneck couple’s night!Your folks should have just gone fishing or drinking instead!!

By Stop being a shill Jim

June 8, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

When you use the words “competent” and “Cox” is the same sentence, you lose ALL credibility.

This is the same stupidintendent who wanted creationism taught in the schools for God’s sake!

Do some damn research on just how USELESS the CRCT is (some posters above have already pointed out how utterly ABYSMAL we are on tests that compare Georgia students to kids across the nation.)

On the one hand, you talk about vouchers, about how the education establishment isn’t working, then you turn RIGHT AROUND and praise the same establishment that CLEARLY isn’t working.

Go ask Pat Sajak if you can buy a clue. Go sit in a classroom with kids who passed the CRCT. Watch them TRY to read. Ask them about what they just read. And then admit to yourself “Now I know why Terry Shiavo passed the CRCT”

By Aquagirl

June 8, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

So, we should advocate for the rights of (mostly male) sex offenders to not be inconvenienced over living children. But let’s not allow funding for abortions that might preserve a woman’s health, lest it might keep some neocon wingnut up at night— because they, not a doctor, don’t get to decide what “health” means.

Amazing.

Oh, and RHC @8:28, I would echo your comment, but less in the spirit of “in your face”, but more “no way this current bunch of politicians are going to solve the problem, unless the electorate makes them take logical steps”.

By GOD OF WAR

June 8, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Weve paid more for Iraqs laziness that we now know was a mistake and we are crying about a natural disaster that destroyed an entire AMERICAN city. A natural disaster, not some man made fictional account of what could’ve, should’ve or would’ve been. Regardless if you like the people in the city or not they should get whatever they deserve. We did leave them on rooftops for a week or two, didnt we. I mean we rebuild Missouri and Nebraska everytime a tornado shreds them, so why not New Orleans. Lord forbid something happens in Texas. Then again we are doing another Louisiana Purchase by stealing land from the good folks down there, so all in all its an even swap and no swindle.

By GOD OF WAR

June 8, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

By the way.. All of us are immigrants except the Indians, which we now call Mexicans, so I say that’s the traditional American food. So lets Ban everything except Mexican food.. Idiots, Dang!

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

June 8, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

Southern Democrat,

Yeah, Bloomberg is making some pretty sensible moves up there. He’s on the ground responding to reality, instead of listening to the pie in the sky “think tanks” that Jim and Newt rely on($14 billion for tunnels under Atlanta?).

The lack of leadership here is unbelievable - it’s almost a statistical impossibiltiy that a population this large could be so consistently mis-governed.

Atlanta is a cesspool of cronyism and narrow interest, the counties are either bastions of close minded reactionary politics or flat-out incompetence, and the state is nothing but an arm of the Chamber of Commerce. Excepting those involved in the Hope Scholarship, I can’t think of one state or local leader who has any kind of positive legacy to claim.

Of course, I’m sure that NY and NJ have plenty of all of that, but at least they have a transit system.

By Pravin

June 8, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

It is a disgrace what Jefferson did. And no problem with pointing out fraud among the poor and middle class. But when are you going to express similar outrage over the bloated and someimes fraudulent contracts a lot of the Republicans have engaged in taking advantage of Katrina. Cheney, the current VP, went to the Lousiana area after Gore, the ex VP did. The former FEMA head was busy acting as a liaison to get contracts handed out to Republican buddies. that kind of fraud is a lot more than some measly unemployment check.

By RCH

June 8, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Amazing It is in that spirit that my comment was written elected politicians trying to cram a bill that 80% of US citizens did not want. Did they care about the child molesters, gang members, or individuals who have terrorists ties that could apply for citizenship? No!!! Did they care about the costs associated and who would carry that burden? No!!! All they wanted was to pander for the vote. This was clearly a victory for all Americans. But don’t worry, this subject will raise its ugly head again.

By melo

June 8, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

The immigration bill is dead. Wow. At least ilegals can come in untill we are about 35 mil of us here.Then maybe some people will wake up! but I’ll bet fewer than half of the crimes of the “sex offenders” are the sort that would cause a normal thinking person any real concern, at least not if they knew the detailsWOW!!! We may have a sex offender right in our midst folks. Could not believe that statement from our fosilized citizenry on this blog.Reminds me of that Florida girl, Lacey, that was sexually molested and murdered by a gone, decayed old dotant of a man.Much like JBMLAW. These depraved old men with zero testestorone but hightened desire and sexual frustration need to be sequestrated!! After reading that JBMLAW statement, i sure had a chill down my spine!!!

By harold

June 8, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

harold wonders why the sex offender registry lists their home addresses. they hardly ever get the neighbors. most get relatives in their own homes. the ones who get stranger kids they dont know drive somewhere and then get them. so whats really needed is a license plate lookup sex offender registry. harold wants to know what cars they are driving, not where they live. if harold seems the same creep at the park each day, harold wants to be able to put the car tag into the sex offender registry and see if the car is being operated by a sex offender.

By deegee

June 8, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

I seriously doubt that the term “traditional American food” is what got the petition silenced. I also doubt that the petitioner’s words were ill-chosen. I feel certain that the words were chosen very carefully to express the thoughts of an individual that would protest an Asian shopping plaza in of all places - Doraville.

By RCH

June 8, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Melo I believe that’s what most of us want. legal immigration. Keep criminals, etc out of this country stated it well. We have enough of those already. The jails are full of them.

By Jim Wooten fails the CRCT

June 8, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

Jim,

Go to the Get Schooled blog and GET SCHOOLED on the realities of the CRCT. Ironically, for a Republican, you look like a total JACKASS when you act like Cox’s waterboy. Don’t you think that’s rather unbecoming of you?

This is the same columnist who thinks the public schools are so utterly broken that he wants to dismantle the public school system and make every school a charter school? At least THAT position has some credibility.

But now you want to praise Cox for the SHELL GAME that is the CRCT? A

The worst thing: Why aren’t your supporters on this board willing to call you on it?

Come on all you great conservatives out there…tell us what’s so GREAT about the public schools and Kathy Cox and the CRCT!

By harold

June 8, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Harold says the self-pay ticket machines at the Hartsfield-Jackson should be renamed the double-pay ticket machines.

If you pay the self-service box in the terminal there is, in Harolds epxerience, a 50% probability you’ll be told to pay again at the exit booths.

And oh yeah the surly beeyotch in the booth will be a real c-nt at you because her machines dont work right.

Good think Harold had heard about their scam and told the self-pay machine he wanted a receipt. In yo face beeyotch!

By harold

June 8, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

congestion IS our friend

we have an advertisement based society that has people convinced that sitting in a fancy car for hours to go from and to a fancy big house way out in the middle of nowhere equates status

only congestion will unblind these morons

its already happening. the poor are fleeing the city beause rich white folks are movign there while the very poor are headed to the exurbs where they belong.

only congestion will cure sprawl traffic. congestion gets bad enough for long enough and people move back to the city.

makeing more congestion by adding more road and lanes will never cure congestion. NEVER. EVER.

and harold is tired of subsidizing congestion. harold would rather subsidize effective public transit.

how much is i75/575 gonna cost? 40 TRILLLION DOLLARZ? you could get a fancy light rail for that. you could volnutarily retire everyone in bartow and cherokee for that!!! how is it effective to spend more on roads than the people “served” by them will ever earn in their whole lives combined???

By GOD OF WAR

June 8, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

Asians have the right to be here and eat what they like dont they? If they can afford to buy the land and place a business on it, they should be able to right? Are you angry that the asians stick together and help one another rather than argue over petty BS.. See the problem is, most of you republicans think you own America and everything in it. You want to impose your way of thinking on everyone else. I dont care to wear my jeans tight, a cowboy hat, listen to country music, drive a 4 wheel drive truck with a 10 in lift or eat corned beef on my sandwiches. Its Ok to love this country because I wouldnt want to live anywhere else in the world, but your rights are no more important than anyone elses. If you had any decency you would know the world is bigger than you and your narrow minded bigoted friends. God Bless America, home of the free and land of the brave.

By Dusty

June 8, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Harold @ 10:42,

I thought you rode only bicycles. What happened? No Silver Comet Trail to the airport?

By imprison all Katrina leeches

June 8, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Undeniably Katrina leeches are NO better than illegal leeches. And of course the Katrina leeches have the very typical example of the black congressional caucus criminal Jefferson who just pled not guilty this morning to 16 corruption charges. I suppose these Katrina leeches think double dipping at tax payer expense is the norm, given the numerous other examples of the endemic corruption that the demoNcrat state of LA keeps on shamefully and gleefully provides so many murderous crack abusing thuggish local leeches in NOLA.

NO MORE tax payer funds for NOLA… they want to rebuild it on a severe flood plain - they pay for it themselves!!!

Some excellent news on the Mexican immigrant front - aside from the senate finally doing the decent thing with their poisonous amnesty bill. A LEGAL Mexican immigrant my wife and I have worked with is getting ready for his citizenship interview. He came for his INS test questions yesterday and in a couple of months should be fully naturalized, finally dispensing with his green card. He and his white American wife have steadily established a flourishing building contractor business since 1999, playing by the rules and not employing illegals. This is EXACTLY the kind of upstanding Mexican immigrant that should be welcomed here with open arms. Leftist bigots on here keep on puking up the sick lie that I am anti-Mexican - not at all … JUST ANTI-ILLEGAL!!!

Hopefully weeping and wailing hysterical footage will soon emerge of the sluttish airhead P Hilton being told to return to court this morning after its sickening cry baby spoiled richbitchbrat lemme outtahere antics in the LA jail. The full sentence, without segregation should be imposed for its cynical manipulation of the system.

GLORIOUS NEWS ABOUT THE POISONOUS PANDERING AMNESTY BILL GOING DOWN IN FLAMES!!! Hopefully Bush will now stop trying to destroy the country and focus on border security and massively stepping up deportations!

Canada’s PM tells the smug self absorbed self appointed third world drooler the vainglorious fenian Bono to sod off - see how Canada has much improved with the change of govt up there.

NO registered sex offenders - like Mrs J M Karr-NAMBLA and aborted foreskin -should have the right to live anyhwere near kids. Although if any kind of kiddie facilities choose to move in to an area where the sex offenders already are legally living its unreasonable to expect them to just move because some selfish moron is too lazy to check things out.

The mayor of Doraville is absolutely right - this kind of mindless bigotry serves no one well.

Any one know how long Billy bigot Campbell has left of his federal prison time?

By RCH

June 8, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

Cathy Cox must be in heaven. after billions of dollars a small increase in scores. Let me bust her bubble. 1)Home schooled children pace 30% points above the national norm on standardized tests. 2)Students that are home schooled for at least 2 yrs place between 86th and 92th percentile and 3)The average cost per student is $600.00 . Go figure.

By GOD OF WAR

June 8, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

Oops!! Land of the Free home of the brave.. You know what I mean.. See how easy that was to admit a mistake..

By deegee

June 8, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Goofey Toofey shares success stories gleaned from the newsletter that she receives from her mail order brides club.

By Adam

June 8, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

Following the comments in this blog only reaffirms the basic difference in Left and Right thought patterns and their reactions. The Left is almost exclusively emotionally based and therefore reacts accordingly by attacking the source rather than debate the logic of any issue. Their reaction is to try discredit any position they don’t agree with as being somehow evil, ignorant, greedy or otherwise malevolent. All of the Leftists from Harry Reid to Michael Moore react this way.

When jbmlaw@8:07 opined that some sex offender laws may too broadly defined, our friend melo@10:28 quickly reached for his keyboard to give all of us a quick demonstration of this by suggesting that this was somehow criminally motivated and ergo should be disregarded. Never to debate the logic because this would require logical thought.

Rest easy Pavlov. Your dog lives on and now has a computer.

By harold

June 8, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

harold rides bicycles but cannot carry others with luggage on his bicycles

By GOD OF WAR

June 8, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

The point was already made that republicans and their cronies made more money than the people we are speaking about that got a measly unemployment check. We seem to forget about the waste in Iraq with Halliburton and other no bid contracts. The same no bid contracts were awarded to people that were contracted to reconstruct New Orleans.. Come now tell the truth and shame the Devil..

By artc

June 8, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

Jim, obviously the law of supply and demand dictates where certain things are sold. Had their been a demand for “traditional” American food, (and I am with jbmlaw on this one, just what is that? Not many people can even define American culture), I am sure someone would be eager to supply that demand. It is very easy to see that the woman’s objection was to the ethnicity of the clientle served, and the words “traditional American” sent the flag up the pole. Mayor Jenkins didn’t allow the words to become the ignition point for what could have become a totally off the subject “debate” of a very simple issue.

By Stop Being A Shill Jim

June 8, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

RCH is “bursting Cox’s bubble” while at the same time Wooten is licking her a$$. Sounds like Cox might be violating a morals clause in her contract.

What I can’t understand RCH is, that Wooten would agree with you (‘cause you’re right) then turn right around and prostitute himself to the Republican Party by shilling for Cox on this.

By .

June 8, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

catlady I don’t mean to pick on you but this is a curious statement —> “To be significant it needs to be at least 5% higher.”

Where did that threshold come from? It seems to be arbitrary.

In my line of work significance has to do with probability, not percent change….

By imprison all Katrina leeches

June 8, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

poor old heebeedeegee - its tough being a dried up frustrated 4’ 10” ageing Philipino rabid catholic spinster who can’t even attract a sick perverted control freak nurdy mommy’s boy yankkkee to offer it a way out of its grinding poverty. When are off back to that Manila dance club for freaks Petal?

By RCH

June 8, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

I believe at this time in our society we solve problems two ways. 1) analyze the problem and then make it acceptable or 2) throw money at it and hope it goes away.

By deegee

June 8, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Now that’s a hissy fit! LMAO.

By Dusty

June 8, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

GOD OF WAR,

Of course this is the land of the free for all who come here legally. But you make a lot of assumptions. Did the lady from Doraville get up and say “I’m a Republican and I like American food.” She didn’t mentioned her politics, just her idea of the kind of food she likes. Maybe her cat was poisoned by Chinese cat food. I don’t know. But politics were not mentioned. Now you have posted what might be considered a bigoted political reply. Why was that?

What a tempest in a teapot. “American food” contains recipes from white, black, brown, yellow and red kitchens. We love it that way. For goodness sake, don’t stir politics into our food. It tastes better without it.

white, brown, black, yellow, and red recipe

By artc

June 8, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

RCH, you are about the most short sighted person that I have ever encountered on this blog. Are you so dense that you don’t understand that for you nativists, xenophobes, and outright racists that this bill was the ABSOLUTE BEST that YOU will get. Do you not comprehend what the battle between the dems and repubs was all about? Think about the Obama argument and the repub argument. If you can think. There is a good possibility that the dems will pick up more senate and house seats in 08 and the White House. Guess what kind of immigration bill you will get then. RCH this is a Pyric victory for you and those of your ilk. You will lose big time on this issue in the end as will the Republican party for years to come. But I am glad that you are so blissfully ignorant. Enjoy your shortlived glee.

By Charles

June 8, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

Someone ordered the trolls out when my comment about the mayor appeared. The issue is not about bigotry or racism my friends. Those are non-issues. It’s about structure, process, and freedom. Don’t allow anyone to deceive you.

June 8, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

The mayor of Doraville, Ray Jenkins was out of order. He certainly doesn’t have my respect. This is a free country. The lady should have been allowed to read the petition. It is the council’s duty to affirm or deny after the reading. I seriously doubt she would have been pilloried.

It was Henry Ross Perot, H. Ross Perot, who said that practically all of the great ideas in America were originated by ordinary citizens. I think officials need to do a little more research, soul searching, before denying ordinary citizens the right to address the council.

I hate it when an extraordinary, misguided, individual erroneously think they know what ordinary citizens should and should not say.

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By imprison Katrian leeches now

June 8, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

imprison all Katrina leeches notes that harold is quietly admitting to being a taxi driver, presumably one of the last great (slightly off) white hope’s in Marietta’s taxi industry. hopefully the nice folks in Cobb County have permanently suspended harold’s much endorsed taxi driver licence for continuous irrational drunken Bush hate.

By melo

June 8, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

…..attacking the source rather than debate the logic of any issue-ADAM

U must be talking about your much loved Bush Administration. U know they brook no criticism.And they do not regard themselves as LEFT,the last time i checked.

By imprison all Katrina leeches

June 8, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

the poor old slapper heebeedeegee cannot even recognise when it’s being gently wittily goaded!!!

By RCH

June 8, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

I believe at this time in our society we solve problems two ways. 1) analyze the problem and then make it acceptable or 2) throw money at it and hope it goes away.

By deegee

June 8, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

That’s the extent of RCH’s intellect. What do you expect from an individual that sums up the entire immigration reform subject with a reference to his bathtub.

By Danny

June 8, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

Thank you GOD OF WAR. The racism, bigotry, and hate demonstrated by so many here against other human beings is downright embarrassing to this American. The above mentioned “Americans” are the ones that I would like to deport. They have no human feeling or compassion. And I bet most of them call themselves “christian” as well. Well folks, ask yourselves. What would Jesus do? I bet not what you would do to fellow human beings. You people are an embarrassment.

By Charles

June 8, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

Some people are too smart for themselves. Some of us are patiently waiting to be goaded; then we can execute our plan for the day.

By RCH

June 8, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

artc This was not a victory for me, but for the American people. 80% did not want this bill. That is the American way remember. Name calling will do you no good. I suspect many of you are so insistent on a bill, any bill, that you really don’t care what is included or what the costs are. Well the politicians tried that and America told them what they thought of it. It Stinks.

By JC

June 8, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

Whatsoever you do to the least of my brethren that you do unto me.

By Charles

June 8, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

Some people are too smart for themselves. Some of us are patiently waiting to be goaded; then we can execute our plan for the day.

By General Manager

June 8, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Charles, obviously Mayor Jenkins knew how to manage, run, and control a meeting. He recognized incendiary wording that could have gotten that meeting totally untracked. Maybe you don’t possess that talent or skill, but that all he was doing. Exercising good judgement and good management.

By RCH

June 8, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

Degee Remember KISS?

By catlady

June 8, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

Actually, RCH, it seems to be that sometimes we don’t analyze the problem first. We just flush the money away.

. (Can I call you Dot?) : I bow to anyone with additional understanding of statistics. However, my point was, seeing passing scores going from 78 to 79% is just not a significant gain, especially given the history of manipulation on the CRCT. I understand about statistical significance slightly, having suffered through several graduate level classes and written a dissertation, but I imagine there are many things I don’t know enough about (yet keep talking anyway :) However, if we see jumps of from 75% to 80% of students passing, my interest would be piqued. Likewise, seeing a small loss would not set off any bells, but seeing a loss of 5 or more percentage points would worry me (see CRCT aggregates for details, esp. middle school).

By harold

June 8, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

so troof harold never realized your wife was a mexican type. holas amigos! but you are one of the few UKers who does not speak Espanol? How on Earth did y’all meet????

By Charles

June 8, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Residents want stores that sell “traditional American food,” said the petition-gatherer.

By General Manager

June 8, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Charles, obviously Mayor Jenkins knew how to manage, run, and control a meeting. He recognized incendiary wording that could have gotten that meeting totally untracked. Maybe you don’t possess that talent or skill, but that all he was doing. Exercising good judgement and good management.

Unbelievable!

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By catlady

June 8, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

Danny, I am not sure it is all racism, bigotry, and hate. Some of it might be pragmatism. And didn’t our Lord encourage us to follow the law (and the LAW)?

By cranky old man

June 8, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

Tricky question about Medicaid paying for abortions. As jbmlaw pointed out in a tongue and cheek manner, it would certainly be cost effective, as any child born to a mother on Medicaid is more likely to be a financial dependent of the government in one way or another. So, ordinarily, fiscal conservatives would see this as a wise investment - a few hundred dollars spent on an abortion now to save thousands later. But, jbmlaw also pointed out, it smacks a bit too much of eugenics. Normally, I’m not one to put too much stock in predictions of slippery slopes or the proverbial camel’s proboscis intruding under the tent flap, but this one is genuinely spooky.

And or course, there is the legitimate concern that any abortion is the moral equivalent of murder. I think most reasable people would agree that it’s wrong to perform an abortion five minutes before a child is due to be born. But then how far back is okay? The 8th month? The 5th? The 3rd? It’s not easy to come up with a cut-off point that makes sense in every circumstance. So, from an ethical standpoint, it would seem a safer bet to just forbid all abortions.

But is that putting an undue burden on women? Legally forcing them to donate the use of their bodies to prevent the death of another human being? While doing so should certainly be encouraged and applauded, should it really be forced? We don’t force people to donate kidneys, lungs, and other organs. What makes that fundamentally different?

By Tired of the Nonsense

June 8, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

I got a kick out of reading some of the comments here concerning Sex Offender Registration and the resultant Banishment laws. It’s funny because apparently some of you think that cr*p actually does something beneficial. In REALITY, the laws are worse than just being worthless and are entirely counterproductive. There is literally not a single expert in this entire country that thinks Banishment is a good idea and very few who think Registration is. I know, I know, politicians and the general public are much more informed, intelligent, rational, and unbiased than the “experts” are. Right.

By focusing on this ever-increasing, hysterical, irrational, fact-less witch hunt we are COMPLETELY ignoring what would be good for us to concentrate on —-> preventing sexual offenses BEFORE they happen. For being so freaked-out and concerned about this “epidemic” we are doing damn near nothing about it. The only thing we are doing is making it worse and wasting resources. It’s stunningly idiotic social policy.

By Adam

June 8, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

TO melo@11:28 “U must be talking about your much loved Bush Administration” … “Nah, Nah, Nah”… “My father can beat up yur father” etc etc.

Keep reaffirming my point. Just for variety why don’t you attempt to express a thought rather than boring us with schoolyard taunts?

By Skeptic

June 8, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

Cannot agree more on your traffic analysis. Seems like the rule of thumb by the traffic “experts” is “if our previous attempts haven’t worked yet, lets keep doing the exact same thing only more of it and more expensive. When is the state going to look at cost vs results?

By Charles

June 8, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

As long as we have catlady and that spirit, tyrants tremble.

By imprison all Katrina leeches

June 8, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

imprison all Katrina leeches notes harold’s petulant unhinged drunken bigotry and is deeply ashamed for him. My wife harold is also a white, DECIDEDLY SECULAR Reagan Republican. I naturally assume your wife/husband is a crackpipe debbie type of ….. well public decency demands we dont explicitly get into that here. I speak perfect, proper “real” English harold. I do not need to, nor will I ever pollute or defile my fine mind with dead/dying/worthless/inferior euro trash languages.

By .

June 8, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

catlady you may call me whatever you like…yesterday bra was all over me, so I can also be referred to as Hot Stuff.

I was just curious as to why you said that and I see you were talking about statistical significance.

For me, when it comes to percent changes of averages it all depends on how big the sample size is. In a large sample size a 5% change is interesting. In a small one it’s not so much….harder to tell if it’s real. Naturally, with state test scores we are talking about a large sample.

OK, all, this . is heading back to Atlanta after a long week at Walter Reed. Have a great weekend and don’t get indigestion from all that blood sucking…

By JohnD

June 8, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Ahhh, the moonbats on the left have their hats handed to them on the amnesty bill and now proclaim a defeat for the 70-80% of Americans who oppose the amnesty and unrestrained immigration. Pyrrhic victory indeed!

Perhaps this was more of an indication the death of the conservative movement, as so loudly proclaimed on this blog for months, was nothing more than a statement by conservatives to the Congress and the President. Keep acting like drunken Democrats and we will help elect drunken Democrats.

The bill before the Senate is no more than pandering for votes from the alien community - by both Democrats and Republicans. The bill is a waste of time and effort.

Also interesting is the almost daily indication from one or more of the supporters of the bill on this blog that they are in fact aliens, either illegal or legal. Then these “enlightened” souls refer to opponents as either racists or bigots or xenophobes for opposing the invasion.

Attack the messenger because there is no rational support for the Senate bill unless you are an alien or a politician.

The Republican Senators supporting the bill, Lindsay Graham and the like, will see a significant reduction in their numbers at the next election. Good riddance, for they are the epitome of the “run as a conservative and act like a liberal” so well played by GWB.

Far from the death of conservatism, the last election and the Senate bill will unite the conservatives to bring real conservatism to government.

By .

June 8, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

catlady you may call me whatever you like…yesterday bra was all over me, so I can also be referred to as Hot Stuff.

I was just curious as to why you said that and I see you were talking about statistical significance.

For me, when it comes to percent changes of averages it all depends on how big the sample size is. In a large sample size a 5% change is interesting. In a small one it’s not so much….harder to tell if it’s real. Naturally, with state test scores we are talking about a large sample.

OK, all, this . is heading back to Atlanta after a long week at Walter Reed. Have a great weekend and don’t get indigestion from all that blood sucking…

By ls4

June 8, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

Slick Willie Jefferson sure isn’t getting much coverage in the MSM. Yet S. Libby, that hardened criminal who did a stupid thing like lie, is raked over the coals. Oh and by the by, Libby was never accused of leaking the name of a supposed CIA agent as was adamantly deemed to be the case with people like Wolf Blitzer. Speaking of Katrina, last week a poll reflected that over half the people who live in the regions still aren’t prepared for a hurricane. Somehow that is Bush’s fault. People have big screen TVs and thumper car stereos yet they aren’t prepared for a hurricane. Idiots that make life choices like that deserve whatever fate nature throws at them..while they pull the lever for Democrats to bail them out of their own stupidity and laziness and poor decision making abilities. Horray for congress beating back that traitorous illegal immigration bill. R or D, no good American worth his/her salt should stand up for giving this nation away. Immigration is not a racial issue unless the blind moonbats make it one. It just so happens no Germans and Canadians are flocking over our borders and leaving millions of tons of garbage behind like the wasteland Mexicans left from.

By melo

June 8, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

Keep reaffirming my point

I will keep reaffirming the irony of your point, Eve.

By RCH

June 8, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Well said John D According to artz we should except a bad bill to avoid a worse bill later. What type of reasoning is that. Now lets see how many names you are called.

By getalife

June 8, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

w needs an intervention and rehab. Too drunk to attend meetings.

The immigration bill is dead.

If Libby is not in prison for treason, Paris should be free too.

By Wesley

June 8, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

Charles, the Mayor Jenkins thing is way too easy to understand. What is tripping you up so badly?

By Stop Being A Shill Jim

June 8, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

catlady and . you play right into their hands when you argue over the fine points of statistical analysis and miss the major point. THE WHOLE DAMN THING IS A FRAUD! Terry Shiavo passed the test, AFTER they took her off life support. And for those who STILL can’t pass, cheating IS the option of choice. (Not “probably” as catlady said on Get Schooled…I know it SUCKS to give a damn about your students, and have to realize that the educational system you toil under DOESN’T, but that’s the sad fact)

Where are all of Jim’s apologists on his praising Cox’s “competence”?

By JohnD

June 8, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

Danny,

Jesus could feed the multitudes with a young boy’s lunch. Neither the United States nor its citizens has that ability. There are fiscal limits to the number of people this country can support.

The US has been a great nation due to one language and one culture, comprised of people who speak many languages and come from different cultures but are willing to become a citizen and recognize the culture and language.

The current crop of immigrants has many who neither seek nor will accept citizenship, the language or the culture. The alien demonstrations openly mock our culture and language and denounce that which has made the US a great country.

An unwillingness to accept such people is not racist, bigoted or xenophobic.

By catlady

June 8, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

Since a lot of folks supporting the immigration bill are “moonbats” on the right, I hardly understand John D’s point. And the good Senator from Mississippi suggesting that we should “trust him” to do the best for us shows how out of touch some folks are. We don’t trust you! We’ve seen way too many reasons not to.

By Aquagirl

June 8, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

Cranky @ 11:57, I have asked about the difference between forced organ or blood donation and abortion before, and have gotten nothing but the sound of crickets chirping. Conservatives don’t have a logical leg to stand on. Don’t expect an answer from them. Like Dusty, they are prone to cut-n-run when confronted by the unequal application of their rules.

By Ralph

June 8, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

John D, do you realize how many house and senate seats that this immigration issue has cost the Republican party. Do you realize how many more it will cost in 08? Of course not. You are not seeing the forest for the trees. Also, do you realize that the primary argument was over what type of immigrant. Republicans want more of the type immigrants that DO take jobs that Americans DO want to do. As for the death of the Republican right wing, another nail went into the coffin. And you can’t get that can you John D? It is absolutely amazing how many of you don’t have the analytical aptitude to understand that your more than obvious tunnel vision leads you to go directly against your own best interest. Is that what they call ignorance?

By Charles

June 8, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

By Wesley

June 8, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

Charles, the Mayor Jenkins thing is way too easy to understand. What is tripping you up so badly?

I agree, this issue is easy to understand. It’s not about bigotry or racism my friends. Those are non-issues. It’s about structure, process, and freedom. Don’t allow anyone to deceive you.

Here is some help for you.

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By jbmlaw

June 8, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

Dear cranky old man @ 11:57, you post an intelligent argument, and discern my bizarre sense of humor too. I’ll have to be careful arguing with you – clearly I am not dealing with a mean intellect. Well done.

By harold

June 8, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

harold doesn’t know… you sure troof? you dont sound too sure

“A LEGAL Mexican immigrant my wife and I have….”

how harold is not even sure if you are married troof. harold thinks maybe you just making it up

By jail paris hilton for 10 years

June 8, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

The sluttish spoiled Hiltonbitch is still refusing to leave its drug/alcohol nest and appear in court. Hopefully this will p!ss the judge off even more and make the punishment even better!!!

By Sam

June 8, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

John D, JUST WHAT IS THE AMERICAN CULTURE? Can you puhleeeeze enlighten us on that one?

By Laurie

June 8, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

JohnD wrote, “The US has been a great nation due to…people who speak many languages and come from different cultures but are willing to…recognize the culture and language. The current crop of immigrants has many who neither seek nor will accept citizenship, the language or the culture”

I call BS on JohnD.

In JohnD’s romanticized version of history, the white Europeans he’s referring to quickly dropped their languages, took up English and assimilated — unlike “the current crop”.

Of course, it’s not true. First generation European immigrants commonly lived in sections of town where their fellow countrymen lived (my Mom grew up in the same neighborhood in Louisville, Kentucky, known as “Germantown”, where her parents were raised by her German grandparents) and, just like “the current crop” it often took a couple of generations before the mother tongue was no longer spoken at home, in the local bakery, etc.

Clearly, the deliberately uninformed JohnD is a racist, bigoted xenophobe.

By Franklin

June 8, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

John D., you really show your ignorance and lack of education with the one language argument. In today’s global economy, a single language nation is dead in the water at some point in time. Enjoy eating the dust when bi-linguals pass you by.

By wind jammer

June 8, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

w needs an intervention and rehab. Too drunk to attend meetings

That’s hilarious! Is this Dem blog humor or something? One Kennedy drives drunk off a bridge and kills a young woman and runs for the hills to sober up; another Kennedy attempts to stuntman it up the Capitol steps in a car while drunk; both are still serving their idiot constituents that voted for them. After all that, blog Dems here have the gall to mention W being drunk? I needed a Friday laugh, thanks!

By RCH

June 8, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Ralph I will take that 80% any day. And remember illegals can’t vote. Well it used to be that way. Maybe its time that our representatives vote for whats right for this country and not just to get re-elected.

By Donald Franklin

June 8, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

John D. you have the same worldview as Pat Buchanan. He doesn’t get any farther with his than are. JEEEEEZE!

By imprison all Katrina leeches

June 8, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

as ever harold’s blithering imbecility is hugely amusing. My wife and I did assist a legal green card holding Mexican chap with his immigration paper chase, as stated.

cheers for your fabulous obtusity harold - it makes the rest of us actually educated folks feel superior to numbskulls such as yourself!!

how is your husband doing harold? do your still drunkenly ride tandem together?

By Stop being a shill Jim

June 8, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Jim,

Have you noticed that in one hundred comments, not a single poster (not even one of your groupies) has come on in support of your praise of Cox’s “competence”?

By New Life Church

June 8, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

“Illegal immigrants”?????????????

The Mexicans? No, they are,

“Christian immigrants”

By RCH

June 8, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

JohnD You racist, bigoted xenophobe. Only two. I am disappointed in you.

By New Life Church

June 8, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

Oh, wait a minute. If they are “Christian immigrants,” we have to go by that love thy neighbor blah, blah, blah.

Nevermind. Ship ‘em out. Love the sinner hate the sin. Illegal immigrants it is.

By Areceli

June 8, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

Yea John D. tell us exactly what you mean by “American culture”. I’m guessing that your definition includes white faces, the “amurcan” language, rednecks, white socks, Blue Ribbon beer and a pack of Marlboros in your rolled up sleeve. Of course you could include a Redman “chaw” and a spitcup too. All of them essential within your cultural circle.

By Charles

June 8, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

John D must have gotten it right. My experience is that only the truth can bring about such opposition.

I don’t have time to read every single blog. I am at work. I’ll take the time to read what John D has written.

See you all after lunch.

By New Life Church

June 8, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

Sorry, just found out we reserved “love the sinner hate the sin” for the employers of the illegal scum.

Now I’m afraid its just “Get out.” “Now.”

Then lets build us a great big humungeous fence. We’ll call it “God’s Fence.”

By Xavier

June 8, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

Charles nobody cares about your wacked out wingnut websites. They just cost you even more credibility.

By Paty

June 8, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

OK. RCH, John D. Which one of you COWARDS is going to tell us just what the American culture is. We’re all waiting.

By Secondthatmotion

June 8, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

Hey COWARDS (John D./RCH)! We’re waiting. What is the “American culture”?

By RCH

June 8, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Paty Show me one blog when I used or inferred culture. Stronger glasses?

By New Life Church

June 8, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

I think RCH thinks we should be teaching our illegal Friends how to Rap.

Maybe RCH would like our conservative Mexican friends to start marching in Gay Pride parades. Parades are such an American treat!

Maybe RCH thinks that Illegals deserve to vote for their favorite American Idol.

Maybe RCH wants to take a few to see an American movie classic. May I suggest “BrokeBack Mountin”, careful that version is rated X.

Maybe RCH wants to see them ditch “Feliz Navidad” for “Merry Christmas, what did you give me?”

By Paty

June 8, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Well, RCH, you support John D. so strongly. I guess it just stands to reason, since you don’t actively disagree with his statements on the “cultural” aspect of his argument. But do us a faveor and get your little stick bud to just spit it out. Tell us exactly what the “American culture” is. He is appearing to be quite the COWARD with his avoidance of key aspects of his argument. He needs to tell us specifically what cultural aspects of our society that he feels so threatended by. If he can’t do that, maybe he should shelve that part of his argument. I personally suspect that it has alot to do with white being the key element.

By RCH

June 8, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

Maybe teach illegals the word * criminal and the law.* New concepts aren’t they?

By jbmlaw

June 8, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

We have much discussion on this blog, daily, on immigration and the political consequences of a bill, or of no bill. I suggest the net consequences, either with or without an immigration bill, are likely negligible. If this were a left vs right issue, we would not see 50/50 votes in the senate, knowing that there are several conservatives who favor moderating our present immigration bills. Daily readers know I am a conservative who favors open borders. Presence or absence of a bill will not affect my likely vote.

Theoretically Tom Tancredo would the least attractive conservative candidate for me (I say theoretically because there is no real chance he could get the nomination), yet it is inconceivable to me that I would vote for a leftist instead of Mr. Tancredo. Similarly, I cannot envision a leftist voting against a leftist politician who votes wrong on the issue. We are mostly not a single-issue society; we all base our votes on some personal calculus.

I heard Mayor Giuliani talking yesterday on Hannity; I am not a wildly enthusiastic fan of Mr. Giuliani, but his argument – to focus on stabilizing the flow, then to reduce the complexity in the government and process, thus to facilitate the flow of those workers we need – made much sense to me.

By Paty

June 8, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

John D. Come out come out wherever you are. We want you to tell us just what the “American culture” is. COWARD! Cut n Runner!

By RCH

June 8, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw I would not consider that statement an open border stance.The proposed open border would be a free floatig migration of individuals with no respect to medical or background checks. I think you woud find that most individuals like myself could live with a statement/bill.

to focus on stabilizing the flow, then to reduce the complexity in the government and process, thus to facilitate the flow of those workers we need – made much sense to me.

By jbmlaw

June 8, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

One additional argument, the “one language” argument – this is one where I agree with my “xenophobic” friends. The commonality of language is important in our American culture – that allows us to talk to each other about our differences. (I know all about Switzerland, don’t waste my time with an irrelevant argument about language diversity in a country where the political power is held at the “state” level rather than in a central government.)

The ability to speak English is the real distinction between American and non-American resident. Almost anything else goes. To be a good American you have to be able to speak at least marginal English.

By deegee

June 8, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

Well, so much for homeland security and protecting our borders. Congress caves in on the post 9/11 passport requirement for airline travel. Apparently Mr. and Mrs. FatA$$ America have their bags packed with hawaiian shirts and elastic waist shorts and they can’t get their daggone passports. A few calls to their congressman sure put a quick stop to that requirement.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19107675/

By Robert

June 8, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

Paty, the little chicken sh*t is probably googling his sorry azz off trying to find something to post that won’t expose him for the hood and robe type that he really is.

By RCH

June 8, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

*jbmlaw8 You xenophobic, racist, nationalist. Gee. One nation one language. How original. Whats happened to you? LOL. But you are right. We do need one language to bind us together. Take the airline industry:all airline pilots and control units at airports no matter where in the world have a basic knowledge of English to converse with each other.

By deegee

June 8, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

jbmlaw, wasn’t it you that said yesterday something to the effect that politics is fundamentally unimportant? Now you ponder the political consequences of the passage or death of the senate immigration bill? What difference do the political consequences make when you have a huge economic, homeland security and social problem that needs to be solved? The death of this bill will ensure that the problem will go unresolved for years to come. Are you happy about that?

By Southern Democrat

June 8, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

Jbmlaw,

I find your statement that you would vote for Tancredo (despite his loony immigration stances) over an unnamed leftist intriguing. A bit of a reverse litmus test, no?

I agree with you regarding the English speaking ability. I would also endorse EVERY American learning a second language. I was fortunate to live in Houston for a few years during my youth and started taking Spanish and continued taking it until I was fleetingly proficient. It still comes in very handy.

On another note, this slipped my mind until now, we had a special intention for peace and protection of the military at Mass last week with the opportunity to light candles, so I lit one for my cousin, one for my former student (brand new 2nd Lt. out of West Point), and one for The Ensign. Let him know a bunch of Roman Catholics are praying for him.

By RCH

June 8, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Degee I agree this bill was mostly about politics. It was “His-pandering” for potential voteing block in the future. And yes they left many important issues on the table. However,in it’s present state it was an abomination to the American people. But rest assured, this bill will rear it’s ugly head once again soon. *Southern Democrat8 We have in the past had our differences, but on this point I will join you. I will light two candles for your cousin and former Student.

By Paty

June 8, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

John(cut n run)D. Where are you COWARD? Still waiting for you to define the “American culture”. What are you doing punk. Hiding till the question goes away? Good luck outlasting me COWARD.

By Todd

June 8, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

By RCH

June 8, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Degee I agree this bill was mostly about politics. It was “His-pandering” for potential voteing block in the future.

“His-pandering” RCH? This really puts the icing on the cake for me RCH. This statement tells everyone on this blog what your agenda is. Why not India-pandering? And don’t try saying all Indians are legal because a large percentage of them are here on overstayed visas. Came here to visit H1B relatives and never bothered to return to India. How about Russo-pandering? How about Bosnia-pandering? How about Ko-pandering, Chi-pandering. RCH you obviously have some kind of deep seated prejudice against Latinos. It is not only obvious from this post but you have been all over this since it was first a topic here. And you have lashed out on more than 1 occassion at the Latinos.

By deegee

June 8, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

RCH, this time I was pretty sure that it wasn’t about politics. Last year it was. The Senate passed an immigration bill last year knowing that it had no chance of advancing because of Jim Nonsensenbrenner in the House. This time I thought that it would go because of the change in leadership. I still have hope that the politicians will show some backbone and do what is right for this country instead of what they usually do - nothing at all.

By RCH

June 8, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

ToddDon’t get your panties in a wad. This term was originated by the Latino community itself. I agree that there are many nationalities of illegals in America, but the Hispanic makes up the Majority.(Estimated at 93%)Which block of voters would you want? For your last statement I say one thing. Show me. I may lash out against criminals. If the shoe fits wear it!

By RCH

June 8, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Degee I also want to see some backbone. But I want a law that makes sense for the American people. Not just to pass a bill and say look what I did for you and now I want your vote.

By jbmlaw

June 8, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

Dear Southern @ 1:55, I owe you more than I will ever be able to repay in this lifetime. Re Mr. Tancredo, I am embarrassed that you correctly read my discomfort, and I’ll admit that just before posting I scratched out a lot of language about Mr. Richardson and rewrote, mostly for the sake of clarity. Let’s just suggest that I am often guilty of bloviation, and that perhaps you caught me in a bit there.

Dear deegee @ 1:50, good question, I do not change my view that, in an ideal world, politics ought to be meaningless. And I certainly acknowledge pondering political questions here on a daily basis. Perhaps that makes me a masochist.

By Adam

June 8, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

Ideally legislation is proposed in order to remedy a situation the nation is faced with. However, this immigration bill was proposed specifically to provide a remedy (an out actually) for Congress. If they had been able to quickly pass this abomination it qould have allowed them to take immigration out of the discussion for a few years while effectively accomplishing nothing.

Nothing would have changed. Illegals would continue to come unabated and they could be content to simply continue as is. Where is the evidence of their great demand for citizenship? Why should’t they just continue to work for cash, no taxes, enroll their kids in school, go to the ER for medical services, and life goes on? I believe the majority of them would just say, “We don’t need no stinkin’ badges.”

By YouSuckRCH

June 8, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

RCH you are the problem. You and other ideologues are the biggest barrier to going forward and actually getting something done in this country than any other factor. As for the law and order BS you are foisting on us here, cut the crap. That sanctimonious garbage is always the mantra when one attempts to hide his true agenda. When he tries to assault reason and logic with BS. Your lashing out should be directed at the maniacs driving on I-285. They are more of a threat than your Latino whipping posts. That was the tactic used to try to stifle the civil rights movement in the 60s. Portray the marchers, the demonstrators, as criminals. You and those of your ilk that long for the days of Jim Crow and white supremacy. And RCH, in the end you are going to get a bill that will make you absolutely miserable. You deserve every bit of the misery that you are going to eventually get.

By RCH

June 8, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

YouSuckRCH Getting something done for the sake of doing something accomplishes nothing. Yes I want a bill , but a bill that works. I guess another 80% of this nation that thinks this way are also the problem. Read the bill, then lets talk again. By the way I am to young to have participated in Jim Crow and white supremacy. However being a military brat, I lived in integrated housing and schools long before most. But I will soon be old enough to retire and draw SS, pension, etc. When your bill passes it is my children and you who will be miserable. Not I ; It will be time to pay the piper for your foolish actions.

By I want my mommy ....

June 8, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

THE FULL 45 DAYS IN JAIL~~~

and the airhead brainless sluttish brat was snivelling and wailing for its mommy … poor wittle self absorbed diddums.

justice is now seen to be done!!

By I want my mommy ....

June 8, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

THE FULL 45 DAYS IN JAIL~~~

and the airhead brainless sluttish brat was snivelling and wailing for its mommy … poor wittle self absorbed diddums.

a magic moment

By Inquirer

June 8, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

So RCH, what is a good bill in your mind?

By Charles

June 8, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

I’m back from lunch everybody. I hope everyone enjoyed their meal.

Earlier in my career, I was a detective at a local department. I obtained special skills in order to catch criminals.

I introduced six websites to the audience at 11:26am. At 1:00 pm Xavier wrote the following:

June 8, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

“Charles nobody cares about your wacked out wingnut websites. They just cost you even more credibility.”

To determine whether one website is credible, it would take about three to six months if you research the information. They have volumes on radioliberty.com alone. Now our good friend Xavier has managed to make a judgment on six websites in an hour and twenty six minutes.

I ask the audience, who has lost credibility now.

You are a liar Xavier.

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By deegee

June 8, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

RCH you think you are going to retire with SS. There aren’t enough of your children and grandchildren in the workforce to pay your retirement and we saw what high labor charges and low productivity did to the stock market this week. So there goes your measly pension and 401K. You will have no one to thank but yourself.

By Inquirer

June 8, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

So RCH, what is a good bill in your estimation?

By CNN

June 8, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

Don’t get your panties all in a wad Charlie. Most of the websites that you rabid anti-immigrant types refer people to might as well have been refered by the Grand Wizard himself.

By Inquirer

June 8, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

So RCH, what would be a good bill in your estimation?

By Paty

June 8, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

HEY JOHN (cut n run COWARD)D!! When are you going to tell us exactly what the “American culture” is?

By RCH

June 8, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Inquirer I am limited in time but here are a few things I would recommend. 1)First seal off the border. Fences are great ,but anything built by man can be overcome. Deny any illegal work, housing, social services, etc. Fine any employer 1 million dollars and jail time for the CEO or president of that company.

2) Deal with those here. Criminally and medically screen all illegals. If they do not pass deport them.

3) We wanted them so lets let them become citizens if they so desire. Back taxes, social security, etc. must be dealt with. I believe in the fair tax so all who stay have to pay taxes.

4) If you would like to stay but without becoming a citizen you can. On a working visa. If no work is available you must return home.

5) Anchor baby’s are not automatic citizens. A product of an illegal act is not legal.

6)Establish work centers in countries outside the U.S.. If you would like to come to the United States to work that is were you apply. Companies who desire workers may apply with these firms for those workers. They will already will have been serened can work in the US as long as those jobs are available paying taxes and receiving benifts.When those jobs end they can apply for other work if available or they must leave. after a certain amount of working hours these individuals may then apply for citizenship.

Just a few ideas in a short amount of time. I am sure I left many things out, but it is a start.

By Charles

June 8, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

The great grand wizard is Satan himself. That’s why I referred people like you to patholiday.com CNN.

She is good with casting out deceitful behavior.

By Inquirer

June 8, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

RCH, #4 would be the deal killer. The rest doesn’t sound too bad. But you are not seeing the big picture at all with #4. Heads of household will not leave families behind, nor will entire families leave. And you obviously have totally disregarded the issue of their citizen children. Much of the argument that revolves around sending folks home is totally impractical and undoable. You are going right back to your round em up and deport em argument that you tried before. #4 would also be incredibly expensive on the enforcement side. Impracticle. Undoable. The first step in any bill has to be legitimacy for the ones already here. You will get no bill ever that doesn’t deal with that first.

By Aquagirl

June 8, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

I agree with most of RCH’s rough plan. The real key is to go after employers of illegal immigrants—-after all, most of them didn’t come here to sample our cuisine or culture. They came here for work. And the Republican administration, under George Bush, has been all about “good business”. Illegal workers are great for certain employers. Way to go, Bushites.

I’m not sure how to screen 12 million people, however. That, and sealing off the border seem logistically unfeasible.

By @@

June 8, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Well I never thought I’d see the day that I would stand in defense of sex offenders, but I agree. If a school makes the decision to locate their facility near the residence of a known sex offender then the responsibility and consequences belong to the school.

Kinda like if a storefront church chooses to locate near a liquor store, the preacher can expect to have some drunks show up at Sunday services.

Physician, heal thyself and all that.

But about those forced Medicaid payments for abortion…isn’t that like moving into the neighborhood of my moral convictions? Do I have the right to complain?

The Norfolk Southern rail is an EXCELLENT idea. It puts me in mind of that T.V. commercial where that mighty Oak reaches out; takes a big 18-wheeler off the road, and puts it on a train bound for its’ destination. From an environmental standpoint, it looks very green….just like that Big Oak in the commercial. Who says business isn’t concerned about the environment?

I’ve always enjoyed my food with an international flare, but I’ve gotta tell you Jim; I won’t be eating Asian food for some time.

Why? You don’t wanna know, but I’m looking for an explanation. WHY?????

Last week, I was about to pull out of my driveway and saw a dead deer across the road; all bloated with his legs sticking straight up. I immediately put the car in reverse and called the county to have it picked up. I got back in my car and set out again only to see a very petite Asian woman loading that carcass into the back of her brand new Escalade.

At first I was amazed at how someone so small could lift that dead deer. Then reality hit and I wondered why she had picked it up at all.

Kung Pao….it was nice knowin’ ‘ya.

By Robert

June 8, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

Charles, you sound like a Talibaptist. No argument rooted in religiosity is going to hold water. When religion enters a political forum, logic and reason fly out the window.

By Charles

June 8, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

You all repeat after me. This is good for your soul.

Amazing grace! How sweet the sound That saved a wretch like me. I once was lost, but now am found, Was blind, but now I see. ’Twas grace that taught my heart to fear, And grace my fears relieved. How precious did that grace appear The hour I first believed.

Through many dangers, toils and snares I have already come; ’Tis grace hath brought me safe thus far And grace will lead me home.

The Lord has promised good to me His word my hope secures; He will my shield and portion be, As long as life endures.

Yea, when this flesh and heart shall fail, and mortal life shall cease, I shall possess within the veil, A life of joy and peace.

The earth shall soon dissolve like snow, The sun forbear to shine; But God, who call’d me here below, Will be forever mine.

By Merlot

June 8, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

By @@

June 8, 2007 3:58 PMKinda like if a storefront church chooses to locate near a liquor store, the preacher can expect to have some drunks show up at Sunday services.

Not in Georgia @@, the Georgia Talibanis won’t let the rest of us buy at the Liquor store on Sundays.

By Merlot

June 8, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

By @@

June 8, 2007 3:58 PMKinda like if a storefront church chooses to locate near a liquor store, the preacher can expect to have some drunks show up at Sunday services.

Not in Georgia @@, the Georgia Talibanis won’t let the rest of us buy at the Liquor store on Sundays.

By Charles

June 8, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

Don’t worry, I know you are filled with sin. It took John Newton a while before he truly converted.

By deegee

June 8, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

RCH, nearly everything you dream of was inculded in some form or fashion in the McCain Kennedy bill. What I find amusing is the statement you make about human “product” of an illegal act being illegitimate. I have wondered how right to lifers justify abortion in the case of rape and now I think I see how that goes. I wonder if St. Peter agrees?

By Inquirer

June 8, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

Aquagirl, that is something else that won’t happen That is reality. So Knowing what will never happen with any immigration Bill, where do you go from there?

By Charles

June 8, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

I think I have him on the run now. Repeat after me. It’s good for the soul.

A charge to keep I have, A God to glorify; A never dying soul to save, And fit it for the sky.

To serve the present age, My calling to fulfill: O may it all my powers engage, To do our Jesus will!

Arm me with jealous care, As in thy sight to live; And O, thy servant, Lord, prepare, A strict account to give!

Help me to watch and pray, And on thyself rely, By faith assured I will obey, For I shall never die.

By @@

June 8, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

Merlot:

The last box on the right of your calendar? That’s Saturday!

Go to your calendar right now….write in BIG RED LETTERS….(((BUY LIQUOR))) then just draw an arrow down covering every Saturday throughout the year.

It’s easy when you THINK about it.

I DON’T….think about liquor that is.

I can take it or leave it.

By JohnD

June 8, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

Paty,

Touched a nerve did I? I have other things in my life than sitting at a computer just to answer your stunted questions and self-absorbed view of how the country should coddle you and those you support.

The American culture is one that values human life and the rule of law. A culture formed by people of varied backgrounds but with the realization that a great country can only succeed with one official language. See the upheaval in Canada between the French speaking and English speaking provinces.

The American culture does not condone the belief that all must be of one religious faith, or for that matter even have a religious faith. Those, such as the Muslims, who have an unswerving belief that theirs is the only true religion and all others must die, should not be welcome.

The American culture confines those who believe violence is the only answer to problems. No sane product of the American culture would strap bombs to their children and march them into a public place to kill innocents. The sane do not condone solving domestic, civil and political disagreements with violence.

The examples given by other posters regarding their ancestors living in Germantown, or other ethnic communities, and taking a generation or two to become proficient in English only strengthens my position. They became proficient because they recognized the importance, unlike the La Raza demonstrators who proudly proclaimed they had no intention of adopting English or the American culture.

I can go on but I think even you should be able to grasp the idea.

The American culture has grown through the belief that each is responsible for his or her well-being and the willingness to help those who cannot help themselves.

America helps others at a pace unseen before in world history but that does not mean America has the capacity to save, or even help, over 4 billion people.

By Charles

June 8, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

Don’t attempt to quench the spirit. I think we are on to something here. We had one for the Father. We had one for the Son. This one is for the Holy Ghost.

Mine eyes have seen the glory Of the coming of the Lord; He is trampling out the vintage Where the grapes of wrath are stored; He hath loosed the fateful lightning Of His terrible swift sword; His truth is marching on.

Chorus Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

I have seen Him in the watchfires Of a hundred circling camps They have builded Him an altar In the evening dews and damps; I can read His righteous sentence By the dim and flaring lamps; His day is marching on.

Chorus Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

I have read a fiery gospel writ In burnished rows of steel: “As ye deal with My contemners, So with you My grace shall deal”: Let the Hero born of woman Crush the serpent with His heel, Since God is marching on.

Chorus Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

He has sounded forth the trumpet That shall never call retreat; He is sifting out the hearts of men Before His judgement seat; Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him; Be jubilant, my feet; Our God is marching on.

Chorus Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, With a glory in His bosom That transfigures you and me; As He died to make men holy, Let us die to make men free; While God is marching on.

Chorus Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

By Inquirer

June 8, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

The type of immigration bill that most of you antis want is comparable with wanting a bill that makes 18 wheelers use truck lanes, outfit them with tach limitors that shut the engine down at a certain revolution (speed) and an enforcement agent comes out with ticket book and restarter in hand, restarts the truck, and writes the Truck Line, not the driver a 10,000.00 ticket. It definately would solve some problems. But like the immigration bill that you rabid antis want it is totally unrealistic. This is the real world folks.

By RCH

June 8, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

InquireWhy,If you choose not to become a citizen and there is no work,what is there to do? I want to give preference to those who want to become citizens.DegeeMaybe a poor choice of words but I do not want to reward criminal behavior.

By Charles

June 8, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

Now, I’ve just chased away that aweful demon. Remember, if you allow him to return, he is going to bring along with him seven other unclean spirits that is more wicked that the first one.

It’s your choice.

By JohnD

June 8, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

Ralph,

Only a liberal would attempt to put the lost Congressional seats solely on the immigration issue.

The Iraq War and the unrestrained spending by GWB are the reasons the Congress changed hands, the immigration issue had a small, very small, influence on the outcome of the mid-term elections.

GWB ran as a conservative and then conducted himself as a liberal and was supported by the Republicans in Congress. They deserved to lose.

The results do not necessarily indicate the liberals sent a message, on the contrary the conservatives sent the message they will no longer support those who misrepresent their politics.

If a few years of nut-case liberal control are required to emphasize the folly of such political leaning then the conservatives are willing to endure.

By getalife

June 8, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

w is officially off the wagon

By Dusty

June 8, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

Oh my goodness,

Charles has gone to preaching and singing and it’s only Friday.

@@, you make me laugh. Saturday..Buy Liquor!! Does that include Manichevitz? (Old joke there!!)

By Charles

June 8, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

Now remember, I’ve just chased away that aweful demon. Remember, if you allow him to return, he is going to bring along with him seven other unclean spirits that is more wicked than the first one.

It’s your choice.

www.radioliberty.com www.iotc.online.com freedomadvocates.org www.patholliday.com www.ccir.net www.worldaffairsbrief.com

By JohnD

June 8, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

RCH,

I would agree with most of your “bill” except change the product of illegals to a non-citizen, not an illegal.

Penalize the workers as well as the employers. Once illegals see others confined and deported they will be encouraged to leave and seek legal entry. Thus you would not have to deport all of the 12-20 million illegals, they would deport themselves.

Restrict legal immigration to 250,000 to 500,00 per year, a number we can employ and assimilate.

Add a provision to end legal immigration if the current law, which is sufficient to curb illegal immigration, is not enforced.

The illegal immigration is a national security issue that must be addressed.

I certainly like your work centers proposal.

By Charles

June 8, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

I hope you pastors are paying attention. You see, these people are not as hardened as they seem. They have actually melted away under spiritual force. Satan has betrayed them. Now some are attempting to resist as best as they can.

That was accomplished without using the letter of the Bible.

By Paty

June 8, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

Welcome back John (cut n run)D! Now please tell us just what the “American culture” is. You seem so concerned as to the threat these immigrants pose to your “American culture”. What did you say that is? One more time John (COWARD)D. “American culture”. Your definition.

By deegee

June 8, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

JohnD, it would be an understatement to say that George W is no Ronald Reagan. In his day Ronald Reagan had the kind of political capital that allowed him to influence members of his own party and unify them behind unpopular legislation. George W has rendered himself impotent over his handling of the war in Iraq. His biography is not looking good right now.

Your American culture description lost me on the second paragraph with your “law and order” statement. If it weren’t for the US’ insatiable appetite for illegal drugs we wouldn’t be fighting a phony war against drugs while paying the traffickers whatever they ask for their merchandise.

By RCH

June 8, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

JohnD Again I apologize. Poor choice of words. I am working. Between us here on the blog,we could write a decent bill in two or three days. Guess we don’t have to worry about getting re-elected.

By Robert

June 8, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

John D., there you go again. They are not going to leave under any circumstance. Get in touch with reality and then go from there. The key to ANY passable bill first make the ones here legitimate. Do that and the employer issue is moot.

By deegee

June 8, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

RCH, Tom Tancredo won’t have to worry about getting re-elected either.

By LawAbider

June 8, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

I would like to see a bill passed that puts a state trooper every 2 miles on every interstate highway in America. Those 200 million speeders need to be stopped and locked up. Fine em too. They are breaking the laws of our country.

And that’s about as stupid and illogical as John D and RCH’s immigration bill. Totally urealistic.

By Charles

June 8, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

Now, you see. We have several pretending that I am not here. They talk purposeless among themselves. Why? They don’t have the guts to face me. That’s true cowardice. That’s how Satan entered their bodies.

You would think that they would really get me strait. They don’t have a single word to say. Their master has betrayed them. It’s pitiful.

By catlady

June 8, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

What about having illegal immigrant parents take their American-born children with them when they return to their home country? The child can then be re-admitted when it comes of age and can live self-sufficiently (probalby this would supply some of our low-skilled workers).

I don’t think folks should be able to apply on the basis of “they are already here”, nor the presence of anchor babies. We need folks with skills, including English, to advance in this country. The idea of babies as products does sound offensive, but think of it this way: a robber should not be able to use the gains of his robbery to pay his lawyer, etc.

By deegee

June 8, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

That’s good, catlady. You want college educated professional immigrants cleaning offices, driving taxis and dry cleaning our undershorts. Oh wait, we already have that.

By Inquirer

June 8, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

Unfortunately for you catlady and others of your ilk, the Constitution is very clear on that issue.

By Don't Be A Shill Jim

June 8, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

Where are Jim’s Republican groupies? 175 posts and not one will support Jim in his praise of Kathy Cox and the CRCT scores. Maybe it’s because that’s the SINGLE DUMBEST THING Jim’s ever lead of a column with.

Come on groupies, tell us how LEGITIMATE the CRCT’s are and how NO ONE cheats. Then we can go to the state board of ed and fly a “Mission Accomplished” banner.

Groupies?

By Charles

June 8, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

I’m going to call it a day everybody. It’s thundering and lightning in my area. I’m going home.

Everyone have a safe weekend. I will talk to you all Monday; God willing.

By Inquirer

June 8, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

So catlady, just how do you make them go back? Think about what you are saying. It defies logic.

By getalife

June 8, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

Give me some of what Charles is on.

Geez.

By backdraft

June 8, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

-Apparently Mr. and Mrs. FatA$$ America have their bags packed with hawaiian shirts and elastic waist shorts and they can’t get their daggone passports.-

Oh my, deegee woke up on the wrong side of the rock this morning. Bah. It sounds like someone is just a teeny bit envious of those who can afford to travel where passports are required. Democrats give away their class envy colours every time. Isn’t envy one of the seven Deadly Sins like sloth? Well there are two for you that Democrats have in full blaring for all to witness. Envy of those who have rather than have not, and love for those or sit on their rumps all day collecting government checks. While we’re at it, let’s also throw in pride and lust. Democrats and certainly liberals pride themselves as being smarter than everyone else, or as usually the case, thinking they are smarter than everyone else. Lust = Clinton, Kennedys, etc., and glutton = Teddy Kennedy, Rosie, Moore, etc. For the record, and I know you underdeveloped libs well and where you would retaliate, greed is not when someone wants to excel in life and earn more and have more than someone else. That’s self determination. Greed is not people wanting to save their own money and build better homes for themselves or drive nicer cars. That’s self-preservation. Greed is certainly not people wanting to take international trips with their own saved money. That’s self-satisfaction. Greed IS definitely taking by force what others have and redistributing it collectively just because a group of collectivist socialists believe it’s the right thing to do. And then we have genius libs like deegee spewing rediculous incredulous comments on this blog. Bah.

By Don't Be A Shill Jim

June 8, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Where are Jim’s Republican groupies? 175 posts and not one will support Jim in his praise of Kathy Cox and the CRCT scores. Maybe it’s because that’s the SINGLE DUMBEST THING Jim’s ever lead of a column with.

Come on groupies, tell us how LEGITIMATE the CRCT’s are and how NO ONE cheats. Then we can go to the state board of ed and fly a “Mission Accomplished” banner.

Groupies?

By Bobby

June 8, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

John D. put up or shut up. When Pat Buchanan talks culture, he spits it right on out. Tells people to their face that it is all about preserving the white, Western European, Anglo Saxon dominance of the United States. You on the other hand don’t have the gonads to just spit it out like that when you start throwing around the culture argument. Grow a set sissy boy. Come out and say it like a man that really believes in his culture. Otherwise STFU you little BS coward.

By RCH

June 8, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this

Law Abider They said the same thing about DUI’s.With proper enforcement and stiff fines they have slowed it down. You forget, I am in the computer security field. With proper integration of the INS and other agencies couple with tamper prof oracle reader cards it would not be to difficult. And a lot cheaper than the cost of 700 mile of border fence.

By Meh

June 8, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this

Who cares about CRCTs. I’d NEVER do something so stupid as send my child to a government school to be indoctrinated as a bedwetting leftist.

By catlady

June 8, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this

No, deegee and others. My idea of skills is more basic than that: following directions in English, operating simple machinery, basic reading and math, using proper cleaning agents, cooking, correct car use, etc. Not what you were suggesting.

As to getting everyone back home, they could go on their own, or we could provide transportation. Cheaper than the alternative.

By Plant Manager

June 8, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this

Wrong again catlady. Some of the best heavy machinery operators at GP can barely speak the language. Most of these guys are a hell of a lot smarter than your off the street native born worker.

By deegee

June 8, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

Oooooo, I smell a backdraft. Sounded like a boortz emission.

By Don't be a shill Jim

June 8, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this

Meh,

You’d be surprised at the number of teachers who are starting to come around to that point of view as well.

Makes Jim’s posturing for Cox look all the more stupid.

Can I get 200 posts with no support for Jim as Kathy Cox’s shill?

By Inquirer

June 8, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

catlady PUHLEEEEEEEEZE! You are not going to get 12 million people out of here under any circumstance. And catlady, we have them here from over 100 different countries. Use the brain that God gave you to think logically for a change. You just want them gone and that’s all you know isn’t it. Well suffer catlady cause it ain’t gonna happen.

By Killin' Time

June 8, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

JohnD wrote, “*The American culture is…a culture formed by people of varied backgrounds but with the realization that a great country can only succeed with one official language. See the upheaval in Canada between the French speaking and English speaking provinces. *”

The upheaval between rival high school football teams in Odessa, Texas is bigger than the “upheaval” (i.e. debate) between the Canadian French and English speaking provinces. If Canada is JohnD’s evidence that a country can’t succeed with more than one language, then when it comes to the ability to reason, he’s swimming in the baby pool.

By Me

June 8, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this

Why does Harold refer to himself in the third person? Does Harold think he’s Bob Dole or something?

By jbmlaw

June 8, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

Dear Getalife @ 5:18, yours is the post of the day, my compliments.

By jbmlaw

June 8, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

Dear Me @ 5:50, harold is one of our resident wits. Has an offbeat sense of humor, one of my favorites on this blog.

By JohnD

June 8, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

Paty,

If you are unable to read then I am unable to help you.

Culture has nothing to do with whether certain idividuals choose to ignore the law. Our culture repsects the law.

Bobby,

You insipid little twit. At no time did I mention race or color or even infer such. The American culture, in my view, includes people of all races and colors who are willing to accept the rule of law and our sense of morality.

You are the only one who mentions Pat Buchannan. I do not listen to him often enough to know his position, or more imprtantly, to care. By the way, you obnoxious shallow reasonless, positionless, coward behind a keyboard. Any time, anywhere.

By deegee

June 8, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

Catlady, think it through. How do you think that people that emigrate from their native country learn English? They learn it in school. Those that have had the privelege of being educated in English in their native country are not the kind of people that are willing to come here to clean your latrine. BTW, I have worked with immigrants that speak very little English, quit school in the 6th grade and had better math and reading comprehension skills than my nephews that graduated from a Georgia high school.

By Platitudes From JohnD

June 8, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

We already know that JohnD does not have the ability to reason, but in fact, has been programmed by Fox News. However, for fun, let’s examine another one of JohnD’s romanticized views of our “culture”:

He wrote, “The American culture confines those who believe violence is the only answer to problems.”

Hmmm. Seems to me, we invaded Iraq when Hans Blix was telling us that Iraq was cooperating with U.N. inspectors, and that their assessment to date, was that there were no WMDs. Now, with tens of thousands of innocents dead and hundreds of thousands of innocents injured, JohnD writes, “the American culture confines those who believe violence is the only answer…” F*** idiot.

By River Rat

June 8, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

It’s waaay past time to stop pouring money on everything Katrina related.Let them get a job and paddle their own boat, the ones who say they can’t find work aren’t looking,the deadbeats are takimg over there are Hurricane Charlie refugees still living in FEMA trailers in SW Florida and NOLA is covered up with them. A little assistance is one thing but these people are perpetual deadbeats and a lot of them are crooksand scammers.

By Laurie

June 8, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

At 4: 18, JohnD wrote, “The American culture confines those who believe violence is the only answer to problems.”

At 5:59, JohnD wrote, “…you obnoxious shallow reasonless, positionless, coward behind a keyboard. Any time, anywhere.”

Take it easy, JohnD. With good behavior, they might let you out early.

By deegee

June 8, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

I wonder if JohnD is going to ask for confinement of Alabama Sen. Charles Bishop, R-Jasper?

http://www.al.com/news/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/news/118129421339090.xml&coll=1

By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this

Look at these gays and liberals in Los Angeles torturing this poor woman:

{{{Screaming Paris Hilton Sent Back to Jail}}}

It’s just her luck that she was born a beautiful rich woman with a partying problem, that no pinko® will stand up for, instead of a cutthroat Islamic terrorist that these sniveling Cowards are always trying to free from jail.

I thought you Cowards were against torture?

Tell me you deviants, how is this any different than Abu Ghraib?

Aren’t you the same candy as-ses that were JUST whining about Dick Cheney?

Where is the usual outrage from Cynthia Tucker, are her “get out of jail” sensationalizism just reserved for child killers, racists and the like?

Geez.

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Americans know what the score is:

Libby starred in re-enactment of witch trials

The world must have watched the I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby trial with wonder (“Libby receives 2 1/2 years in prison,” Page One, June 6). The law-abiding United States of America has just done a rerun of the Salem witch trials with all its freaks and foolishness.

Take an “innocent” that you don’t like, accuse him of things he might have done, tell him he isn’t telling the truth, imply that nobody forgets, say that he and his “friend” were casting spells, and even if he didn’t “cast ‘em,” he most certainly mentioned it.

To sum it up, you don’t like the conservative company he keeps. Then hustle him off for the toughest punishment allowed because he doesn’t grovel —- same ol’ Salem.

CATHERINE BOONE SHEALY, Atlanta- Letters to the Editor, Atlanta Urinal

And we will remember too.

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From the Urinal’s Vent section:

{{{Fred Thompson divorced his wife of many years and married someone 25 years younger. He and Giuliani fit right in with the hypocritical family values crowd.}}}

Oh, I get it, we should follow the example of the leading democrats, Bill and sHrillary, Clinton right?

Fred should be a serial groper and a rapist and his wife would be a bulldy-ke who leaves the corpses of her lovers in Fort Marcy Park?

Is that what it would take to pass the democrat private life and bedroom monitoring smell test?

Geez.

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{{{Mr. Reid fired back at the White House yesterday, saying the immigration bill failed because Mr. Bush couldn’t persuade his own party to support it.}}}

Bush failed.

Leave it at that.

Or we will rid the Republican party of you.

Concentrate your efforts on Iraq, you spineless wonders, win that and maybe we’ll give you the immigration bill as a gift.

And maybe we won’t.

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{{{“Workplace enforcement” of laws barring illegal aliens from holding jobs in the United States is a joke — virtually nonexistent except when the administration decides it is time for a good photo op to show that it is “getting tough” on wayward employers.}}}

If they couldn’t get a job what would they come here for?

Duh.

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Look, the “bumper sticker” is coming to get you:

{{{A suspected international arms dealer was arrested yesterday in Spain and charged with conspiracy to sell millions of dollars in weapons to a State Department-designated foreign terrorist organization in Colombia to kill Americans. U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Administrator Karen P. Tandy said Syrian national Monzer Al Kassar, 61, of Marbella, Spain, along with suspects Tareq Mousa Al Ghazi, 60, of Lebanon, and Luis Felipe Moreno Godoy, 58, also of Marbella, were arrested as they prepared to finalize a multimillion-dollar deal with the Marxist Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, to pay for the weapons.}}}

So which “Americans” to you Cowards think they want to kill?

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He ruled over you Cowards:

{{{There in London that Tuesday, June 8, 1982, the American president spoke of a crossroads — “a turning point.” “It is the Soviet Union,” assured Mr. Reagan, “that runs against the tide of history by denying freedom and human dignity to its citizens. It also is in deep economic difficulty. … The dimensions of this failure are astounding: a country which employs one-fifth of its population in agriculture is unable to feed its own people.” Here was Mr. Reagan’s foreknowledge of the Soviet Union’s coming calamity, served up when Soviet experts in American universities were claiming the U.S.S.R. was fine. Mr. Reagan, they said, should not be so arrogant.}}}

{{{He struggled to understand those Western leftists who chided him for daring to judge the American experiment better than the Frankenstein monster created by the Bolsheviks: “I have often wondered about the shyness of some of us in the West about standing for these ideals that have done so much to ease the plight of man and the hardships of our imperfect world,” said Mr. Reagan. “Let us be shy no longer. … What kind of people do we think we are? And let us answer: Free people, worthy of freedom and determined not only to remain so, but to help others gain their freedom as well. … Let us now begin a major effort to secure the best — a crusade for freedom that will engage the faith and fortitude of the next generation. … [L]et us move toward a world in which all people are at last free to determine their own destiny.”}}}

Dramatic as those words ring today, they were downright shocking in 1982. Lou Cannon, then the White House correspondent for The Washington Post, recalls that the press derided the Westminster Address as “wishful thinking, bordering on delusional.”

You pinko®s got stomped and lost the fight to save communism just as you are going to lose the fight to save Islamic Fascism, you stupid sniveling Cowards.

(I’ll take another America loving actor^^ in the White House, geez, I long for those days.)

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By BlogFather

June 9, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this

Pray for Rain? Jim Wooten, sir, be thankful your gubernatorially-imbedded potted plant, (who coincidentally also needs a good hosing), didn’t exhort Native Americans to dance for rain.

The Norcross-based Lipsey Mounstain Spring Water Company has the sole contract to deliver bottled water to disaster areas. Follow that money and see the #1 source of corruption within our republic.

No wonder Purdue thinks we should pray for water.

Cheney needs a new pace maker. So far, his de-fib-rillater has had no effect on his forked tongue. (Dance for truth, my Fine Indian Friends)!

We need minesweepers in Iraq. Where’s the technology wizards to give our soldiers the vision-assist to spot these things. IEDs give off a signature on some specific spectral filters, and I demand we provide these to our troops. Whats the matter, no sole contract to supply them? Surely the Saudis would do it for the kickbacks. (Listening, Dick?)

CIA’s secret jails in Europe are far more appropriate 4 Paris Hilton. Reports of prisoners being “shackled, handcuffed and kept naked for weeks”….what R we waiting 4? Life could be a dream….sha na na nahhh

The ankle bracelts on Pars was too barbaric: Just HOW was she supposed to do that thing she do so well?

Reports of shrieking in the court from Paris? R we talkin’ ‘bout Hilton or Sharapova?

Witnesses say they havent heard blood-curdling screams like that since Democratic Candidate John Edward’s Hairstylist took a little too much off the top last week.

I still havent gotten over Sharapova not being in the finals in Paris. Paris in the spring without Sharapova is barren. at best. Jail in the spring with out Paris is pornucopically barren. They dont wear nuthin’ ‘neath them prison gowns, you know…..

Sha na na nahhh

By BlogFather

June 9, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

The Pope has a new book: JESUS of NAZARETH (too bad the Paris thing happened after the publish deadline or he could have included an admonishing forward which would have raised sales)

A catholic writing about The Christ? Must read.

What was Jesus’s obseration? His view of us stringing him up using our state-of-the-art technology: Cat-o-nine tails to scourage him; Iron-alloy nails to secure him to the cross which itself was carved using the latest metallic woodworking utensils….

…and of course, he witnessed our cleverness and creativity when we fashioned the Crown of Thorns. (if crucified today, that same crown would be a beer-can hat, arent we clever).

BTW: Pontius Pilate owned the sole Roman Empire Contract to supply nails, crosses and whips to pagan sacrifices, and rebel insurgencies and pre-messianic transfigurations. Follow THAT money and see the #1 reason why the Roman Empire collapsed.

Imagine an auction today at Christies: the Crown of Thorns. Throw in Pontius Pilate’s Jock Strap and expect a new one-item auction record: 72 quint-quadrillion euros. (That’s more money than they stole at Ocean’s Thirteen)

Stop the Auction!! I think the Crown of Thorns is a fake, you can clearly see where someone sprayed the thorns with enddust to stop preying beetles.

Pray that Paul stops making solo albums.

Pray 4 Rain 2.

If this drought had occured during the original woodstock, would they have chanted, “no rain, no rain”…..

By BlogFather

June 9, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

The final episode sunday night.

The final episode.

I havent seen it. I’m not a hollywood insider, but I know exactly what the ending will be: The Same Ending That Every Movie Ever Made Has…..

…theshootoutattheokcorral

I am so sorry that Doc Holliday or Wyatt Earp ever saw a hand gun or a shot gun because then screenplay writers would not ALL be stuck on one end game scenario for movie plots: The Shoot Out at the OK Corral.

Gee, I wonder if Tony Soprano will shoot it out with the bad guys at point blank range?

It dont matter what the movie is about, it could be about nuns on a bus going to toilet-paper a mosque on halloween, you know that at some point in the movie (hint: near the end), one nun is going to pull out a gun and start shooting at the other nuns.

What is wrong with liberal hollywood? Their Politics? NO! their hacks.

HACKS!!!

I’d rather see Bush pronounce obscure geographic names and foreign leader’ names than watch another movie.

But I wont miss “the sopranos” tomorrow night. OK?

By catlady

June 9, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

deegee, I work with about a hundred immigrant families a year. The adults who learn English do it in multiple ways, but mostly it is by putting themselves in situations where English is spoken, on purpose. We have several groups in our little town that give free English classes, which have some attendance. We also have an alternative high school which gives classes to overage students. However, many, many of our adults make no real effort to learn English. How can you explain someone who has been here 12 years or more and cannot say basic things? Of course, some of the women are less able to put themselves in these situations, because they live an Iraqi kind of life, confined to the house having babies. We see this mostly in the Guatemalan women. However, if learning English were “rewarded” by moving you toward citizenship, we would see more of that happening, too, as it would be in their best interest. The adults that do learn English force themselves into situations that will assist their learning, sometimes at great cost in time, energy, and effort, as I would do if I were in a foreign country.

And we are not talking about ability here: many of the Latino adults I know are among the brightest, most engaging, and hardest working people in the county. Their children certainly put ours to shame on many measures of ability and work ethic. Some of the adults need an incentive to learn, because right now they depend almost entirely on their children to buffer them. I know quite a few 9 year old girls who have been in the delivery room with mama because daddy does not trust the hospital-provided translator, for example.

I think “extra points” should be given to those wanting to get legal status who have learned English, that’s all. There are other things I think should qualify for “extra points” too. And no, those who come initially may be confined to lower level jobs (as many of us are when we start out—babysitting, mowing lawns, flipping burgers), but then they will become more skilled and move up, and other (legal) immigrants, newer to the country, will take their places.

By Luckobulldy-ke

June 9, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

I am a shemale for Bush, and a coward to boot.

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By BlogFather

June 9, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

And now introducing a new show, “Fun With the Vent”

Yes, it’s “Fun With the Vent”, that bi-weekly, cross-referential reality blog from the same producer that brought you “Political Foreskin - peeling back the hubris”

Saturday’s Vent has a good opening joke which should read: “I’m really sorry that I bought a waterbed, cause my wife and I have drifted apart”. (this wouldn’t have happened if you had more driftwood, sir)

“Creationists: please explain why you have an appendix”. (only bookies have appendix’s, moron).

“Wouldn’t it have been hot if Paris Hilton had emerged from lockdown with a prison tattoo?” (Give her time; she already has a tatoo anyway and I’ve seen it).

“During watering restrictions, I invite all the children in our neighborhood to have a super soaker fight on our front lawn”. (Okay, JimWooten, Here’s your chance to test the new sex-offender laws)

“Dubya’s presidential library should be built in Baghdad”. (At least it wont get looted).

“I’m allergic to cats, and so I’ll just have to be a crazy dog lady”. (@@ finally got in the vent!)

“I was OK with the first few Harry Potter novels, but the next few seems like she’s making stuff up.” (silly rabbit, magic-tricks are for kids)

“Text messaging, Tv shows and movies on cellphones are producing a generation of mindless, squinty-eyed zombies” (Bush is right: Iraq IS like Korea)

“I have no underwear”. (at least Paris gets internet time in jail. they dont wear hardly nuthin’ ‘neath them prison gowns, you know)

“I could get fined if I’m caught washing my car at home, but it’s OK to go to the carwash everyday. How is THAT conserving water? (wash me)

Well, that’s our show, see you again next week for another episode of “Fun With the Vent”.

By Markus

June 9, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

Will the RATs like Polly/God’s Trash get out and actually enjoy the day, or will they sit around and fester as usual trying to “dominate” (heh. hahaha. HAHAHAHAHA!) a Conservative blog?

I’d just like to share a comment from another blog about Berger’s treasonous theft and the Scooter Libby NON-OUTAGE OF A COVERT CIA OPERATIVE media/RAT wet dream:

I have found that few folks on the street - especially all of those well read folks who want to blame 9/11 on the current administration (and there is plenty of blame to go around), ever heard of the Berger case. How can that be possible.

Oh, they all hate Libby - even though David Boies was quite clear that the investigation was ill-conceived from the git-go. Yea, Libby plays hard-ball politics just like the rest of them in Washington - D’s and R’s alike. Nothing unusual there. But stealing secret documents and destroying them before your testimony - now - that deserves a bit of media attention. Shh.

Now on the other hand, few Americans ever seemed to know who James Riady was — and if a person or two “sort of” remembers his name, it’s not with any knowledge of the fact that the Reno US Justice Department handed Bill Clinton’s close friend and business associate, frequent White House guest, the largest fine ($8,610,000.00) ever handed out (oh, and expelled him from the country) for illegal campaign activity, violating federal election law.. oh, well read it yourself - looks like 10 more people will find out about this today - the media certainly never hounded Bill Clinton to explain it. Besides, all Clinton would have ever said, is “oh, leave James alone.. you know he just got caught up in that vast right wing conspiracy stuff, he’s a great guy, get over it.”

“…plead guilty to a felony charge of conspiring to defraud the United States by unlawfully reimbursing campaign donors with foreign corporate funds in violation of federal election law, the Justice Department’s Campaign Financing Task Force and the United States Attorney in Los Angeles announced today.

In addition, LippoBank California, a California state-chartered bank affiliated with Lippo Group, will plead guilty to 86 misdemeanor counts charging its agents, Riady and John Huang, with making illegal foreign campaign contributions from 1988 through 1994.

Riady is one of 26 people and two corporations charged by the Campaign Financing Task Force, which was established four years ago by Attorney General Janet Reno to investigate allegations of campaign financing abuses in the 1996 election cycle.”

Keep on preaching Brother.

By Markus

June 9, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Slimes:

‘Fear’ being the result of illegal immigration sweeps and “Nazi” being insinuated as America tries to enforce it’s own damned immigration laws.

Hey jackal liberals at the pathetic 3rd rate tier Slimes, have you aholes ever heard how America treated the Irish and other Euro immigrants in the 1800s? No, of course you stupid overestrogened candyassed liberals either don’t know about that or don’t want to admit it. Then you can concoct up your pathetic lie that being against illegal immigration is about race.

By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Hey everybody, Cynthia Tucker is posting today!:

{{{By Luckobulldy-ke June 9, 2007 9:27 AM I am a shemale for Bush, and a coward to boot. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ}}}

Alright Cynthia Tucker, that one was pretty clever!

Blogging at Wooten’s on the weekend, this is really addictive, isn’t it Cynthia Tucker?

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By Markus

June 9, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

I sure am glad our media shows all sides of everything. I had to dig WAY down in the trenches to find this one:

A Chaldean priest and three deacons killed in Mosul

“Fr Ragheed Ganni, 34, was hit by gunfire in front of the Church of the Holy Spirit. Three deacons, who served as his aides, were also killed.”

“Baghdad (AsiaNews) – An armed group gunned down and killed Fr Ragheed Ganni and three of his aides. The murder took place right after Sunday mass in front of the Church of the Holy Spirit in Mosul where Father Ragheed was parish priest. Sources told AsiaNews that hours later the bodies were still lying in the street because no one dared retrieve them. Given the situation tensions in the area remain high.”

Isn’t that damned interesting? The same media that drools over EVERY BAD NEWS STORY out of Iraq (ESPECIALLY if our troops kill an innocent) amazingly doesn’t report CHRISTIANS being slaughtered in Iraq by islamofascist pigs?

No wonder the diseased liberal RAT pack wants to control the media including radio and the internet. Nazi pigs.

By Markus

June 9, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Hey jackass John “Radical Islamic Terrorism Is A Bumper Sticker” Edwards, have you heard the latest on the non-event at JFK you pathetic coward?

Yes, let’s leave our national security to limpwristed little liberal girliemen pantywastes like Edwards.

By Markus

June 9, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

More “Bumper Sticker” news stories from around the world on that peaceful, tolerate, and diversity certified religion of Islam.

Side note: NASA TV is the cat’s @ss.

By BlogFather

June 9, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

The woman’s finals at the french open in paris sans sharapova: nobody is watching. Why not? Who cares about Ugly Henin, that cap-wearing tomboy half man testosteroned horrid hybrid?

She’s simply unwatchable. Camera to Global Hurling, (projectile hurling)

So what if she can power-serve her way to four titles? Any man could.

Tennis isn’t just about having a muscular arm and the strength to overpower a woman. It’s about woman. The female mystique in skirts hopping around with a racket.

I strongly urge Sharapova’s coach to teach her how to power serve, her serve is only adequate. Concentrate on the serve, and know when to rush the net.

and shorten that skirt!

By Markus

June 9, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Hey Breck Boy! Don’t look now, but Islamic women are being tortured and murdered while you candy@ssed liberals stick your heads in the sand!

You think this dum@ss diseased liberal gubment school teacher mentioned stories like that^^ to her students?

You stupid effin’ diseased liberals are pathetic WAY beyond pathetic.

Sick, sick, sick.

By time for the truth

June 9, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

Just got my Deep Purple tickets for July’s gig at Chastain. Should be a fabulous night, whatever the weather. Yet more of England’s finest ‘Rock Royalty’ on stage in Dixie, an evening to truly treasure.

Doubtless the lads will dedicate Rat Bat Blue to the cut and run scum who are selling out the troops.

Its always hilarious to see how the should have been aborted liberal filth on here consistently puke up their sick racist lies about the Bush/Kennedy/McCain amnesty for illegal leeches betrayal of this country. Their manic, desperate lies show just how hopeless their destroy America dream has become as the folks realise that the illegal freeloading infestation will simply double under this odious self destructive sell out.

I see that Mrs J M Karr-NAMBLA of VT and its greaseball psychotic rent boy side kick maggot brain have already puked up the usual obsessive weekend homo filth on here. Surely there’s a spare Iranian made Hizbollocks IED somewhere in Iraq for these scum buckets!!!

By getalife

June 9, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

OMG, I agree with Mann Coulter:

“Fox News even brought in Ann Coulter, who complained that the 45-day sentence handed to Hilton was unfair, because it revealed how everyone hates Hilton. Coulter also complained that the traffic judge was trying to make a name for himself with the sentence. Enjoy the irony of that analysis: the pot-calling-the-kettle routine.”

Me loves me some Paris.

By time for the truth

June 9, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Almost forgot to proffer please kill yourself and all your anal retentive 1000+ ids immediately greetings to the sad sociopathic wanker aborted foreskin who is nowadays so deeply ashamed of its ‘original’ puerile name it pukes up its pathetic unremitting obsessive tennis fetishism bollocks under some deranged vainglorious dumbarse id. Unassailable fact: you aint a pofo you are a mofo … gedditt??!!

By getalife

June 9, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

It was fun at TMZ.com bashing all the Paris haters and telling them that it was all a publicity stunt for her movie.

She will make more millions off their hatred like Mann.

Those haters are worse than macaca and Andy. They hate Paris more than the wingnuts hate liberals.

Hate,hate,hate is today’s America.

By BlogFather

June 9, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Men with Squeegees.

The AJC’s front page today has an article about full service gas stations. Their going extinct like the dinosaurs, (fossil fuels, get it?).

What data did the reporter, Marcus K. Garner, collect during his background research for this article?

That’s easy. He observed the proliferation of men with squeegees at New York City street corners.

I’ve never actually seen men with squeegees in Atlanta accosting cars at intersections. The defense against that, BTW, is to turn on your windshiled wipers and squirt the man with the squeegee in the eye with antifreeze. Works everytime.

That’s also the defense against tailgaters. Simply turn on your windshield wiper fluid on the back of your suv and the guy behind you gets it. Works everytime. (camera to enraged tailgater grabing his legally-concealed pistol and firing at the SUV with the suddenly clean rear window).

Dont worry he missed me. (camera to me taking a drink of gatorade and…niagra falls)

Gates scares me. Keep your eye on Gates. He wouldn’t have been appointed by Bush if he weren’t complicit in the Iraq Scam. “Dont give me a good general, give me a loyal crook”, joked W.

Well, what if Lincoln had wanted a loyal crook instead of a good general like grant? What if he wanted John Wilkes Booth to run the war? Then what would have happened, huh?

There IS a way to win this war, and it’s not celebrating D-Day by claiming that Hannity and Rush dittoheads are the only ones that appreciate or understand the valor of the greatest generation. That’s what right wing radio rant-kings have been bellowing about all week. The Right really is finished.

The last refuge of scoundrels is the blood of heroes. Remember that.

Sic Semper Fee Fie Fo Fum, Dumb Dumb.

The Right’s most conservative factions are aligning themselves as liberals to the point of paying more for haircuts, pointing out the quality of their suits, and professing their belief in a non-partisan caucasian god.

It truly is over for the Repudlickan Party.

By Markus

June 9, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

Friday’s al Jazeera Urinal, bottom of page A1:

“Was it fog of war, or an act of war, in ‘67 attack?”

“Retired Navy Capt. Ward Boston, the chief counsel for the original court of inquiry, broke his silence on the issue with a 2004 affidavit that said that he and the presiding admiral believed the attack ‘was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew.”

Now any moonbat that REALLY believes the Israelis would intentionally murder Americans is probably of the ilk that believes that Bush planned 9/11 so he could “get that oil!”

Sick, sick, sick. Leave it to the Urinal to bring that^^ back up. Slow news week ladies?

By Corky Cobb

June 9, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

You no what is sick Markus? 12 more Americans killed today.

You no what is sicker? Cowards like you that “support” the war.

Coward

By Markus

June 9, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

“Hate,hate,hate is today’s America.”

All one has to do is visit Daily Kook or RATunderground.com to see where true “hate” lies. “Hate” is defined by a diseased liberal as something said that the sickster doesn’t agree with.

Zombies.

By Markus

June 9, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

Hey Corncobb butt: Just three days ago in 1944 on June 6, 1,465 Americans were killed in O-N-E DAY.

Oh yeah, and get off your fatassed lazy liberal butt and go fight your WAR ON POVERTY with your OWN @SS and GET OFF THIS BLOG. If you don’t want to do that, then kindly SIT DOWN AND SHUT THE EFF UP you pathetic diseased liberal maggot.

By BlogFather

June 9, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

AJC’s Living Section has a Faith and Values article about the proliferation of atheist books and the culture wars.

There’s actually a book out now about the Bush years and it’s influence on the evangelical coup the Repudlickans took over our government with. It’s called, “Tee-Totallers, Tinkie-Winkie, and the Trinity”.

It’s all about how Jerry Falwell and Bush conspired to mindwash inbred dittoheads into believing that you must worship at the polls, or the gay terrorists win.

By Luckobulldy-ke

June 9, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

Good to see my good gal pal coward friend Lady Markus here today.

See you soon sugarcake - meet me in the usual place - hiding under the bed…

By Markus

June 9, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

John “Terrorism Is A Bumper Sticker” Edwards wants to enlist the PEACE CORPS for dealing with terrorism. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

No, brilliant ideas like that can only be concocted in the mind of a diseased limpwristed liberal RAT. Oh man, will Johnboy be the Shrill’s running mate? PLEASE SAY YES.

By getalife

June 9, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

That is not war in Iraq, it is a police occupation.

The Iraq police are not doing the job so we are arming the insurgents and giving them police power.

By Markus

June 9, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Oh look who woke up from the hangover: Polly/God’s Trash. You are nothing. You have nothing. You are a waste of carbon existence. Talking and walking dead. What you contribute here is meaningless. Useless. Dead air.

Zombie.

By Corky Cobb

June 9, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

The threat is real right Markus?

A true American patriot would go fight for his country, right Markus.

Markus, you do know that you have exposed yourself as a coward don’t you?

ENLIST!

By getalife

June 9, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

Newt predicts more gop losses in 08.

Duh.

By getalife

June 9, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Fred Thompson - K Street’s Presidential Candidate

Andy’s favorite corporate wh-ore.

Geez.

By Corky Cobb

June 9, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

More losses in 08 for the GOP????

About the only war supporters left for Bush is Markus and WackoDull, and they are both hiding under the bed! Not looking good.

Republicans are now hiding under their beds from crazy Bush!

Had Bush “supporters” like coward Markus gotten their butts to Iraq things may nave turned out different for Bush. How ironic.

Of course there will be more GOP losses.

By Markus

June 9, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Shocking news story of the week:

RAT congressman William Jefferson pleads Not Guilty in racketeering, bribery, and money laundering.

Yeah William Jeff, I’m sure someone just freaking broke into your home and put that $90,000 in cash in your freezer out of random kindness. Maybe they thought you needed it as a Katrina “survivor” while you worried more about your own home than those with NO home. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

“We will have the most ethical congress in history.” — Nanny Pelosivich

By getalife

June 9, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

“Giuliani is paying his wife $125,000 a year to help him write his speeches…and you can tell.
Like last week, he gave a speech about what awful bit-ches the first two wives were.”
— Jay Leno

Bwa.

By Markus

June 9, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

“Had Bush “supporters” like coward Markus gotten their butts to Iraq things may nave turned out different for Bush.”

Five year old childish arguments never get worn out by the diseased left.

Hey corked butt, you still here? Why aren’t you out there fighting your War On Poverty you neoStalinist m-effin’ cowardly pile of diseased liberal sheet?

By getalife

June 9, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

No matter how frustrated we may get with congressional Dems, it’s worth remembering that when it comes to running Congress, there is a difference between a Democratic majority and a Republican one.

The lesser of two evils. Nothing will change until K Street is history.

By Corky Cobb

June 9, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

I can see crazy Bush now, isolated all alone in the White House.

Muttering over and over again… “Where did all the patriots go?….Where did all the patriots go?…where did all the patriots go?….Where did all the patriots go?…where did all the patriots go?….Where did all the patriots go?…where did all the patriots go?….Where did all the patriots go?…

By Markus

June 9, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Joe Klien, a regular lib on that OH so centrist Chris “Softballs” Matthews where our very own beloved al Jazeera Urinal Tucker appears often, is apparently all pantywet over the radical disease of liberalism that has infested blogs like Daily Kook, C&L, and RATunderground.com. Well, LGF had a thing or two to say about that:

“Note to TIME Magazine columnist Joe Klein: suck it up, Joe. Some of us have been targets of the insane bile that pours out of the left-wing blogosphere for years. It didn’t just start recently, and it’s not unusual or rare. The left-wing haze in which you live parted for a second and you saw what the Nutroots are really like. Welcome to the reality-based real world.

And your attempt to blame it on “right-wing talk radio” is just plain dumb.”

Dumb? I’d say absolutely liberally PATHETIC.

By Markus

June 9, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Tim’s Joe Klein:

“The spitballs aimed at me don’t matter much. The spitballs aimed at Harman, Clinton and Obama are another story. Despite their votes, each of those politicians believes the war must be funded. (Obama even said so in his statement explaining his vote.)”

How’s THAT for a patriot position, you beady-eyed used cars sales weasel liberal RAT disease, corked butt?

By Corky Cobb

June 9, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

The new American culture….Talk radio will win the war on terror!

Thousands of healthy 18-30 year old males telling the world what they would do if they were brave enough. Lol.

ENLIST

By Markus

June 9, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

Since you pathetic diseased liberal War On Poverty cowards won’t go sweat your own war and instead use OTHERS to fight it (like my EFFIN’ MONEY), I’ll continue to find more legal tax loopholes to keep M-Y money out of your filthy communist wannabe Stalinist claws.

Stick that^^ up your @ss with a red hot poker, corked butt.

By getalife

June 9, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

LGF reality based?

Bwhahahahaha.

You speak reality over there and you will get banned.

Bunch of cowards like macaca.

By Chickenhawk Hillbillies Love Dumbya

June 9, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Corky, how right you are. Greasemonkeys like Markanus and shemales like Andi are amazing heroes of the blogs and airwaves.

Cowards and poofs all.

By Corky Cobb

June 9, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

I mean think about the absurdity!

Every dam day 100,000 healthy war age males attempt to call in to these radio talk shows to support the president on Iraq!

ENLIST

By Markus

June 9, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Only on planet Gitmo is “reality” a “reality” for gitmo.

WTF is up with the ID poofing today? ‘Sumatta girls, too bored with your own diseased trash sites like Daily Kook? Eff off, you filthy leper pathetic communistic traitorous cowards.

By Markus

June 9, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

No fighting the alleged War On Poverty on your own, you @sshole cowardly hypocritical liberals? Thought so.

Now THAT is absurdity.

Eff off, pigs.

By Markus

June 9, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

Let the record reflect that another sickness of the disease of liberalism, besides blatant hypocrisy of both domestic and foreign wars^^, is that any book that attacks the Shrillary Witch is a sexist book by a sexist author.

Now I’ve heard of the race card by Jesse Jackboot and the Sharptongue and other like minded race wh0res, but I’ve never heard of the sex card. Leave it to the disease of liberalism to keep the inclusiveness of character assassination on those who print/say/think negatively towards Queen of Pink, the Shrillary, and label them as sexist when they can’t retort what was printed/said/thought.

Stupid spineless liberals.

By getalife

June 9, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

You are getting your a-ss kicked macaca, as usual.

Take it like a man because we all know you are a coward that talks the talk but will never walk the walk.

Bwa.

By Markus

June 9, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

WTF are you talking about, planet gitmo? Not ONE of you @ssholes on the monkeyassed left has said a THING about what I’ve posted regarding your RAT shenanigans on the filthy left.

Is your idea of an “a-ss kicking” i-g-n-o-r-i-n-g* what’s been posted you pathetic diseased liberal jackal?

Go sell that bullsh!t to someone on planet Gitmo, you sick FREAK.

Effin’ laughable.

By Luckobulldy-ke

June 9, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Take it like a man? My bu-ttbuddy Lady Markus??

Are you kidding? Not my gal-pal.

Kisses, Markus, from your favorite POS Andi/e…

By Markus

June 9, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

“The spitballs aimed at me don’t matter much. The spitballs aimed at Harman, Clinton and Obama are another story. Despite their votes, each of those politicians believes the war must be funded. (Obama even said so in his statement explaining his vote.)”

Not ONE COMMENT about that^^ from our cowardly spineless resident diseased liberal RATs. And spineless POS diseased liberals like Craponlife say they are kicking my a-ss around here. LAUGHABLE!

I’ll leave it for someone else now to waste their time with these diseased liberal cage monkeys. I’ve got a boat to catch and an environment to use to MY will.

By Corky Cobb

June 9, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

“The Battlehymm of the Republican” A patriotic song for the neo-patriot.

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Blog;

We are spewing out the garbage where the hate and lies are stored;

We hath loosed the fateful lightning of Our terrible Swiftboat KeyBoards;

His “truth” we’re typing on.

Glory! Glory! Blog for W!

Glory! Glory! Blog for W!

Glory! Glory! Blog for W! So we don’t have to go to War!

By Edward

June 9, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

We Americans have always been too lazy to do backbreaking work. Our founding fathers that we laud could afford to assemble and draft a document that we cherish because of slave labor. Do you think that there would have been a Thomas Jefferson, Madison et. al. if there had not been slave labor? After slavery ended former slave states realized that they had a huge population of idle, former slaves that they could not afford to hire and pay, and thus they were confronted with a “Negro Problem.” We passed Black Codes and Jim Crow Laws that we thought we could keep in place forever. That lasted about a century. As the posterity of former slaves began to educate themselves and move into the maistream we lazy Americans once again looked around for labor. We looked the other way as people south of the border streamed into the country, and now we a have an “Illegals Problem.” Now I ask you, when these “Illegals” assimilate and move into the mainstream where will we turn to for labor? We can outsource, but be careful what you ask for.

By PoFo

June 9, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

getalife, do you sit down to take a leak?

And if so, do you get flogged when you leave it down?

By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

Cynthia Tucker, blogging her as-s off today:

{{{By Luckobulldy-ke June 9, 2007 11:40 AM Good to see my good gal pal coward friend Lady Markus here today. See you soon sugarcake - meet me in the usual place - hiding under the bed…}}}

That’s great Cynthia Tucker but are those the kinds of things you should be talking about in a family “news” paper?

Geez.

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By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Cynthia Tucker, showing her “diversity” with a name change:

{{{By Chickenhawk Hillbillies Love Dumbya June 9, 2007 12:36 PM Corky, how right you are. Greasemonkeys like Markanus and shemales like Andi are amazing heroes of the blogs and airwaves. Cowards and poofs all.}}}

How long did you have to think about that one Cynthia Tucker?

“Greasemonkeys,” wow, that was really deep, Cynthia Tucker.

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By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

Look, Cynthia Tucker showing us all why she is the Editorial Page Grand Pooh Bah:

{{{By Luckobulldy-ke June 9, 2007 1:10 PM Take it like a man? My bu-ttbuddy Lady Markus?? Are you kidding? Not my gal-pal. Kisses, Markus, from your favorite POS Andi/e…}}}

Cool, some gay bashing from Cynthia Tucker!

Nothing like slamming those fa-g people, eh Cynthia Tucker?

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By getalife

June 9, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Andy,

You are obsessed with Cynthia Tucker.

They will come to take you away.

Let it go.

She is not on this blog.

Stop wanking, psycho.

Geez.

By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

al-Gitmo: How the F do you know that?

Someone at the Urinal has made a conscious decision to allow this conduct, a gay bashing lurker that spews filth on the other participants, they are letting this disease fester like an open oozing sore, a sickness that could be “cured” quite easily but that they don’t seem to mind very much.

It’s like they are so proud of it, this obscenity.

I know it ain’t Wooten that is looking the other way, he is their token Conservative to begin with, he’s probably been neutered by these pinko®s and I’m pretty sure that they have taken his spine from him too.

No, this is going on with the full awareness and acceptance of the big dog, the Queen Pinko herself, ruler of the Urinal Kingdom.

You know, they way you libs pin everything the government does on Bush?

Duh.

She owns it.

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By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Btw, al-Gitmo, what are you doing defending this gay bashing excreta?

Is this something all good democrats do, discriminate against gays?

You know what I mean?

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By getalife

June 9, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Its General Pace or all the gop candidates Andy.

They hate gays.

Geez.

By getalife

June 9, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

Firing the Arab translators for being gay and not having enough of them is a national security disgrace.

Because of the hatred of gays by the gop, they are weak on national security.

Outing a covery CIA agent is treason and weak on national security.

Leaving our borders and ports wide open for terrorists is pathetic on national security.

By Politics Aside

June 9, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

In my defense, I was only doing my part in the war on terror. Remember when Bush extolled all Americans to be vigilante, and to concoct attack plans against vulnerable targets, no matter how ridiculous, and notify the FBI if anything sticks?

Well, I took him seriously, and I approached some terrorists in a cell I blundered into over by Peachtree and MLK drive, you know, where it intersects with Ponce de Leon over by the Aquarium where it would only take one small cherry bomb to flood the entire Piedmont region (Katrina style).

Anyway, I approached the obvious terrorist who looked away and then started to run, while screaming something in Islamic Jihad, (ji-bonics?). Good thing I had my secret tape recorder gizmo. When I played it back for an imbedded translator at the FBI, it said, “I didn’t do it. It wasn’t me. It was Ahkmed. He made me help him. I am a peace loving suicide bomber!”

Well, I was awarded the purple sac for my alertness, and the FBI still doesn’t know what Ahkmed supposedly did, but I think it has to do with all that chinese castor oil that’s showing up in all our panda meal (that’s what must have turned poor Mai Len into such a monster).

Oh, the pandamanity!

By Hear no evil speak no evil

June 9, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

getalife, call your rep…Who is it?

It’s not Jefferson is it?

By getalife

June 9, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

They can read my words on the blogs.

They took some heat after they caved on Iraq but they are back to blogging.

They do not take calls or emails but they do read the blogs:

“The American people hired Democrats last November to ensure that we end this war,” Dean said during the weekly Democratic radio address. “So let me be clear, we know that if we don’t keep our promise, we may find ourselves the minority again….

“We have to face the reality that Republicans in Congress are standing with President Bush as he stubbornly wields his veto pen,” Dean charged. In response, he proposed that the “one way to truly ensure we end this war” was to elect a Democrat as president in 2008.”

There ya go.

By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife June 9, 2007 2:17 PM Because of the hatred of gays by the gop, they are weak on national security.}}}

al-Gitmo: “Equal rights” for gays starts at the local level.

You can not whine about others while you are quietly mired in the filth and pollution retched up by this Polly Pestilence.

It’s the height of hypocrisy man.

Geez.

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By getalife

June 9, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Give it a rest Andy.

The position on don’t ask, don’t tell by the gop tells the story.

Its to feed the gay hating base like you.

By hear no evil speak no evil

June 9, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

getalife, you keep saying “they”, “they did this”, the problem with the left is their paint brush is waaaaay to broad.

Is your rep blogging?

By Luckobulldy-ke

June 9, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

Let’s see, I spew hate, filth, stupidity, 40 hours a week on Luckovich’s blog, and then put in another 16 or so at Wooten’s on the weekend and then try to blame it all on Cynthia Tucker…

What a silly drama queen I am -

Yes, that’s me, POS Andi/e…

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(yes, it’s me, I used the trademark symbol.)

By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife June 9, 2007 3:04 PM Give it a rest Andy. The position on don’t ask, don’t tell by the gop tells the story.}}}

al-Gitmo: Your hero Clinton gave birth to DADT.

It was one of the most cowardly acts I had ever witnessed at the time, I remember it well.

These Urinal blogs are archived back to the very first day; you are more than welcome to browse through those archives and show me where I ever hated on any gays.

You can not do it.

That is my whole freaking point, you sniveling Coward liberals are the only ones gay bashing, and by letting Putrid Polly slide, you are participant in it by cowardice.

You own it, you and Cynthia Tucker.

You must approve of it or you wouldn’t allow it.

Word.

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By 3rd party

June 9, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

good job d**, you should try out for “Mean Girls”.

By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

{{{By Luckobulldy-ke June 9, 2007 3:17 PM Let’s see, I spew hate, filth, stupidity, 40 hours a week on Luckovich’s blog, and then put in another 16 or so at Wooten’s on the weekend and then try to blame it all on Cynthia Tucker…}}}

Cynthia Tucker owns you Coward, I’ll bet she’s so proud.

All you can do is gay bait, POS.

Stupid putrid little lurker.

I bet all the libs at the Urinal giggle at your gay bashing posts.

So typical for a pinko®.

Geez.

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By getalife

June 9, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

Sorry Andy but your party wants to keep it and the Dems want to get rid of it.

Don’t like it, vote Dem.

Hate gays enough to have not enough translators and troops to fight for your homophobic mind set, vote gop.

Its that simple.

By hear no evil speak no evil

June 9, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

getalife, why do you always post nasty homophobic stuff against Andy all the time?

Why do the liberals always bring up the black/brown thing?

Geeeeez

By getalife

June 9, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

Evil,

I guess you do not know Andy’s pathetic wingnut mind set supporting the gop positions.

I will break them down for you.

Pardon Libby, soft on crime.

No gays in the military, soft on security.

Open borders for corporate greed, insane on security.

I could go on but I doubt you will get it.

By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife June 9, 2007 3:34 PM Don’t like it, vote Dem.}}}

al-Gitmo: If you libs can’t control your hatred of gays long enough to have a stupid political discussion, one wonders what you are really thinking.

Seriously.

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By getalife

June 9, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Well Andy,

I think we could use all the translators we can get.

I think the gop position is crap and are the ones that hate gays.

That is what I am really thinking.

Your turn.

By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

{{{Illegal immigrants come to the U.S. to work. If we make it substantially more difficult for them to find work, substantially fewer of them will come, and many of those already here will return home.}}}

Duh.

Cowards.

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By hear no evil speak no evil

June 9, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this

geez gal, expert, we must look through a different glass.

don’t ever paint my house!

By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

{{{“Using advanced, hi-tech tools, Karl Rove has found the last pocket of support for Bush and destroyed it with laser-like efficiency,” said Democratic Web logger Mickey Kaus of the illegal immigration controversy.}}}

Why can’t Mickey Kaus blog here instead of these stupid crippled pervert lurkers slinging their feces at everyone?

Or at least someone with a brain?

WTF man.

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By getalife

June 9, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

I guess you conceded that point Andy.

Evil,

Hire an illegal immigrant to paint your house.

Cheap.

By Luckobulldy-ke

June 9, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

Oh yes, I’m a mastur-duh-bater.

Yes sirree, that’s me POS Andi/e…

Hey, Marukus, lend a girl a hand, will ya?

By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife June 9, 2007 4:03 PM I think the gop position is crap and are the ones that hate gays. Your turn.}}}

al-Gitmo: The GOP is following the guidelines set forth by the previous democrat administration, the Klinton Kowards.

Check this out, you libs are in charge of Congress now, you sit at the head of the armed services committee, where you can set any policy that you like.

Why are you fing with me about it?

Nut up, oh righteous one, exercise that authority the “people” gave you.

BTW, at least the GOP is being honest, it’s a lot better than what you closet gay bashers are doing.

Geez.

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By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

Looks like Cynthia Tucker is getting angry:

{{{By Luckobulldy-ke June 9, 2007 4:57 PM Oh yes, I’m a mastur-duh-bater. Yes sirree, that’s me POS Andi/e… Hey, Marukus, lend a girl a hand, will ya?}}}

Anger makes Cynthia Tucker act like a mere child.

Calm down Cynthia Tucker, I rule over you and this blog, if not, why can’t you putrid little Cowards debate me?

All you can do is gay bash, Cynthia Tucker.

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By getalife

June 9, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

Thats crap Andy.

w will veto and the gop Senate will go along.

I would like to debate with someone with a brain too.

Geez.

By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

{{{By al-Gitmo June 9, 2007 5:10 PM Thats crap Andy. w will veto and the gop Senate will go along.}}}

So cowering before the W is an excuse, eh?

This is what the “people” got for their votes, a bunch of gay bashing Kowards?

You don’t see the absolute lameness in this?

Geez.

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By getalife

June 9, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

Hell Andy,

They had to cave on Iraq to get a min. wage increase.

Need total Dem control to change anything.

Again, anyone with a brain out there?

Geez.

By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

The only man in Los Angeles gets piled on by all the sniveling Koward pinko®s:

{{{The union representing deputy sheriffs demanded that Baca “put a stop to his special treatment for celebrity inmates.” And county Supervisor Don Knabe said he was stunned to find out Baca released Hilton without consulting the court.}}}

You libs getting your jollies torturing that woman?

What a bunch of punk mofo’s.

Kandy As-s Kowards.

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By WootenDull

June 9, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

I wonder if these Kandy As-s Kowards will be quoting Buckley this week:

Yes, Free Libby By William F. Buckley

If Libby spends one freaking day in jail I will join the libs and help them try to put Bush in one.

I’m not in to travesties of justice, this is America, not some third world kangaroo dictatorship.

Let the libs make as-sholes of themselves with the witch hunts.

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By Mid-South Philosopher

June 10, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this

Now let me get this straight…a woman having an abortion for health reasons at taxpayers’ expense is too much involvement of the government, especially since a lot of taxpayers are opposed to abortion for any reason. However, the government using its police power to make me help pay for 13+ years of schooling for your spawn is appropriate, even though I may oppose the teaching of evolution. Other than the fact that you Conservatives and Liberals want it to be your own damn way, what am I missing?

By Gay Conservative

June 10, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

I have been reading this column for the last few weeks, mostly on the weekends. I must say, although I agree with Mr. Wooten alot, I really identify with the posters Wootendull and Markus because they are tough no-nonsense conservatives, yet they are the most gay-friendly of any of the posters on this blog, especially Wootendull, who seems to have a sixth-sense about the problems that gays face in our society, almost like he’s been there himself (although “he” might be a “she”, he sounds real “butch” when it comes to Iraq, I imagine him in his uniform patiently uploading his posts on a secure satellite link somewhere near Fallujah, covered with grit, and lacking a shower for the last few days - be still my heart! - just a stone’s throw from Democracy’s enemies, hunkered down for the USA).

Anyhow, Mr. Wooten, I was wondering if you ever held get-togethers for your posters? I would relish the opportunity to get to know all of your open-minded followers better - there are several guys that I would like to get to know better - jbmlaw, for one. That English guy that posts here - he’s not my type - (while I don’t mind a little man-funk, my experience with Englishmen is that they leave much to be desired in the personal hygiene department - and for me, a resident of the gayest state in the union, Alabama - to say that, it’s like the English have never heard of soap) might be fun to have a conversation with.

Perhaps the next time there’s a major body-building competition in town, you can hold a meeting of the regular conservative posters along with it. There’s nothing like a bunch of tough-talking regular guys (I’m thinking Markus the mechanic, with his slicked-back black hair and his cute potbelly) intently watching greased up muscle-men strutting their stuff to bring out the best in modern conservatism, I must say.

It would be good for conservative America’s morale.

A special treat to rally the warbloggers!

By WootenDull

June 10, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

Gee, wasn’t 8:38 just so original, so awe inspiring intelligent?

And so Kowardly?

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A statement from the Abu Angeles prison:

{{{“I must also say that I was shocked to see all of the attention devoted to the amount of time I would spend in jail for what I had done by the media, public and city officials,” Hilton’s statement concluded. “I would hope going forward that the public and the media will focus on more important things like the men and women serving our country in Iraq and other places around the world.”}}}

Damn, nailing the drive by media, spoken like a true Conservative.

No wonder you Kandy As-s Kowards think she’s stupid, who cares about those icky soldiers, right pinko®?

Hopefully, this confession wasn’t rendered under torture, I’m sure you brave, courageous liberals have been poking sticks into her cage, teach her a lesson, huh, brave boy?

Great way to treat woman, you putrid little perverts.

Fighting the women and the weather, running from Al Qaeda, Geez.

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Not stupid enough to fall for the BS, the fake southern accent and the stupid pandering:

{{{Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton continues to dominate her rivals in the early Southern Democratic primary states, but her high negatives and polarizing image likely will keep the South in the Republican column in 2008, according to strategists and analysts in the region.}}}

No, she’s just gonna have to count on you sucker liberals.

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Look at this language of hate in the Urinal:

{{{ U.S., Italy clash over red coral. The United States is leading a push to protect a type of red coral that grows deep in oceans and seas, putting it at odds with Italian fishermen who have harvested the species for generations to make artwork and jewelry.}}}

Doesn’t the United States sound like some rogue nation out to violate Italy’s sovereignty just for the kicks?

And is this not the very first endangered species ever that the Kandy As-s Koward liberals have thrown themselves in front of to save?

Gee, I wonder why?

It just goes to show you, the only reason the liberals care about the environment is when they can score points against the United States or it’s Republican President.

It’s like nobody notices this crap.

Geez.

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{{{But no matter how loudly and vehemently some proclaim their narrow-minded views, those views simply cannot be the basis for public policy. Though the diehard nativists denounce as “amnesty” any proposal that offers a path to legalization to the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants already here, the comprehensive immigration reform bill stalled in Congress offers a practical approach. It combines tough border enforcement with a path to legalization that includes penalties. It’s no easy forgiveness.-Queen Pinko, Urinal}}}

Next week, Cynthia Tucker’s column will berate Republicans with the failed health care, even though she wants to invite 20,000,000 uninsured from another country to come eat it up for free.

The week after that, it will be her “narrow minded view” on the “plight” of the middle class in America and their falling average wage, even though she just beckoned the whole entire country of Mexico to come and undercut the earning power of every American citizen.

Maybe we could do a column on slavery reparations, we can give these 20,000,000 indentured servants working for scratch a few good ideas on how to sue us in a few years to make up the difference to a “living wage?”

This Queen Pinko wants to hobble the United States, bring it to it’s knees.

All this talk of being fair and “just” to people, go ask your average paper carrier for the AJC what kind of health benefits they are getting.

POS, put it off on everyone else.

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Has anyone figured out what the luckovitch cartoon is supposed to mean?

Geez.

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Check out the depth of liberal thought brought to you by the vent:

{{{The reason we have a water shortage is because developers have been allowed to run wild for a couple of decades. There isn’t enough water here to support this many people.}}}

So what about those water restrictions we had before the developers “ran wild?”

Geez, always blaming someone, eh, pinko®?

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By Markus

June 10, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

“I really identify with the posters Wootendull and Markus because they are tough no-nonsense conservatives, yet they are the most gay-friendly of any of the posters on this blog,”

Hey Polly/God’s trash: I don’t mention homosexuality because what someone does in their bedroom is none of my business. If you diseased liberal demoncats want to vilify Conservatives by using gay epithets here, that’s your right of course. Ever notice how no Conservatives use racial/sexual orientation insult epithets here? You piece of hypocritical liberal trash.

But let it be known that what you say, post, or even think means nothing in the bigger picture of reality. This is a blog, and ONLY a blog. What you as a filthy sub human diseased liberal thinks or posts is meaningless. Useless. Dead air. Zombietime.

“Anyhow, Mr. Wooten, I was wondering if you ever held get-togethers for your posters? I would relish the opportunity to get to know all of your open-minded followers better.”

I’m sure you would, Pollydik. I’m sure you would, you psychotic diseased obsessed liberal freakshow from hell.

By Go Andi/e Yourself

June 10, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

Someone posts a perfectly innocent comment and Markus goes ballistic.

What a moron.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

You talking to yourself again you diseased liberal ID poofin’ FREAK? We can ALL read between your lines, liberal. A RAT is always a RAT.

Anyway…

Here we go again. Palestinian “gunmen” (is there any other kind?) crossed over into Israel at Gaza and Israel retaliated. Once again I’m sure that’s all Israel’s fault. It’s Israel’s fault for pulling out of Gaza and the Palestinian “militants” saw that as a victory. It’s always Israel’s fault. Let’s watch and see how the media and Israel-hating diseased left refers to this latest “attack” by Israel.

By @@

June 10, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

Well, it’s now official; leftists are the equivalent of radical Jihadists, so says the NYT:

“The Guidebook for Taking a Life”

Islamic militants are hardly alone in seeking to rationalize innocent deaths, says John O. Voll, a professor of Islamic history at Georgetown University. “Whether you are talking about leftist radicals here in the 1960s, or the apologies for civilian collateral damage in Iraq that you get from the Pentagon, the argument is that if the action is just, the collateral damage is justifiable,” he says.

Well, there’s war that is unavoidable, and then there’s war against your own country and of your own making.

Another example of an American terrorist; not so domestic, but a terrorist just the same.

Tompkins, 64, is a hero to some for his environmental stewardship. Others resent his land purchases as a foreign challenge to their national patrimony.

Opposition lawmakers in both countries have sought unsuccessfully to expropriate Tompkins’ purchases or put limits on extremely large landholdings.

Tompkins insists he’ll eventually return the land to both governments to be preserved as nature reserves or parks, but will hold onto it for now “as a very good example of what private conservation can do.”

BUT…

Jose Luis Niella, a Catholic priest and social activist, said many poor people no longer have access to lands where ancestors lived freely for generations. “It’s not fair for him to be concerned only with protecting the environment,” Niella said.

I can just see him now; a young Al Gore during the radical 60’s raging against the corporate establishment with this to say:

“Industrial society seems likely to be entering a period of severe stress, due in part to problems of human behavior and in part to economic and environmental problems.”

But of course, nobody cared to do anything until the year 2000. The environmentalists were burning the candle at both ends. Standing in the way while leading the way. Yeah…right!

Do you liberals ever feel like chumps?

By Markus

June 10, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

Well, there’s no Meet The Depressed today due to the men’s final of the French Open. The Spaniard will beat the Swiss, and I’ve got a bet riding on it. Hey yesterday’s victory was for Belgium. What’s up with American tennis players? Roddick has a Mach 1 serve, but so what. He hasn’t done much. Williams twins? Crash and burn.

I guess a nation that gets fatter and fatter and lazier and lazier due in part to the disease of liberalism is a nation that doesn’t have much of a tennis crop to reap from. Oh well, at least we have basketball.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

“There’s nothing like a bunch of tough-talking regular guys (I’m thinking Markus the mechanic, with his slicked-back black hair and his cute potbelly) intently watching greased up muscle-men strutting their stuff to bring out the best in modern conservatism, I must say.”

That^^ is a “perfectly innocent” comment our 9:46 diseased liberal wanker is referring to. They can dish it out, but they can’t take it.

The hell else is new.

Poof.

By JH

June 10, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/06/07/bald.eagle.delisting/index.html

The bald eagle is officially about to become a “conservation success story” for the U.S. government, which has worked for more than three decades to help the national symbol recover from habitat destruction, illegal shooting and contamination of its food source.

Thank goodness for tree hugging hippies and conservationists!

Seriously, this is a victory for ALL Americans. Not only have we saved our national symbol from possible extinction, we may be saving out national legacy as well.

The ONLY people to lose? The developers who move into critical bald eagle areas, push the birds out and reduce their numbers. There is big money to be made in cutting down and developing bald eagle habitat.

Keep up the good work America!

By @@

June 10, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

An addendum to my 10:03.

Gore was probably dumping on a dandelion at Woodstock while raging.

Dandelion tea; not for me.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

JH, great post. If one hasn’t seen bald eagles in the wild, one hasn’t lived. But I think you misconstrue “conservationism” and “hippies” there. Torching SUVs and “McMansions” is not American any more than keying someone’s car because someone else thinks it’s harming the environment.

I find it rather interesting how extreme right-wingers are constantly mentioned for blowing up abortion clinics, yet no extreme left-winger “hippies” are mentioned for torching auto dealers and new home developments.

By Political Foreskin

June 10, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Jim Wooten is conflicted. His ambivalence stems from his abhorrence to witchcraft. The magic words, “No Amnesty”, has made Gonzolez and Iraq disappear. He’s truly conflicted.

The words “no amnesty” is from the conservative-to-lunatic fringe book of charms, spells and hoaxes meaning “they’re not here”. The Democrats are suggesting that 12 million Mexicans are here. The GOP wishes they werent and presto! like an errant Harry Potter, with a wave of the gavel, Gonzolez disappears. Then W and his magic veto pen makes Iraq disappear. The incantation: “The GOP want to support the troops. The Liberals want to support the aliens”.

Abra Cadaver, now it’s a question of patriotism. Are they patriots, or patent idiots? And just what is the counter-spell?

Politics, then, is controlled by magic and fear. We fear Mexicans. We dont like them. They are different. They are brown. They sound different. We dont like their faces or their words.

Therefore, the only motivation for Hispanic Homies is corporate greed. Are houses more affordable? Really? What would they cost if Mexicans weren’t here?

We still live in the Alamo. Walt Disney’s legacy was to brain wash an entire generation with coonskin caps, muskets, and powder horns. I am Davey Crocket, damn it! (fact: After Santa Anna surrendered, the militia under Sam Houston took a full two hours to slaughter the remnants of the surrendered core of that army. It was unbridled and illegal vivisection of a living army. The Mexicans had shot the survivors of the Alamo, it’s true, so I guess we were even).

The GOP has been saved by witchcraft. .

This kind of political relandscaping could only have been accomplished by employing Mexicans. Every time someone proposes a length of fence, someone else looks around and says, “we’re gonna need a bigger fence”.

Amnesty means they’re here. No! they’re not here! No Amnesty! (pop! gonzolez disappears. Pop! pop! Iraq disappears.)

Did you know that Davey Crockett kilt himself a bar when he was only 3?

By Markus

June 10, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Don’t look now, but Dick “Turban” Durbin is on Fox News Sunday (HIDE UNDER YOUR BEDS LIBERALS! FOXNEWS!!!!). Yep, Mr. Our Soldiers Are Nazis is trying to sound credible. This man is one that has stood on the pulpit and given aiding and comforting words to our enemies. What a pathetic man.

By Reverend Ted Haggard

June 10, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

It’s Sunday, and I’m standing on my pulpit today too, Markus.

And I’m not wearing any underpants!

(Meet me and Andi/e under the bed.)

By JH

June 10, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

You are absolutely right, Markus. A couple of years ago when I went home to see my mom in western Nebraska, for the first time, I saw several bald eagles near the Platte River and although I had seen some of these magnificent animals in Yellowstone as a boy, it was truly a thrill!

Conservation is one of several issues that really can unite us. Some things are so important that they trump the things that divide us so. All of us love our children. And we can leave a better world than the one we were left. (Oh the good old Boy Scouts) - liberal vs. conservative, democrat vs. republic, black vs. white, doesn’t really matter, if just put our minds and collective will to it.

And I agree that it is the far fringes of both sides that get much press, but do very little good in actually solving the problems.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

Awwweeee. The flaming liberals of Ocean’s 13 aren’t on fire at the box office. What a damned shame.

Random Sunday thought: When the radical Muslims take over France and the UK (not IF… WHEN), will the French Open and Wimbledon be history too?

By Markus

June 10, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

Jim Says: June 9th, 2007 at 10:27 pm

“It’s not a parody. And speaks to the deep, deep longing of the Left to hold the whip hand as aristos under any new King. Hitler, Stalin, the Caliph. ANY King will do. So long as he’s the new one, and raises them to aristo status.”

A blog comment regarding an article in my second link in my 10:52 when someone questioned that article was just a parody or a joke of some sort.

By baseball bat leftist queers on here

June 10, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Watching the filthy hypocritical leftist queers on here puke up their sick obsessive homo drivel weekend after weekend after weekend after weekend after weekend shows us that the worthless treasonous cut and run abortion bucket escapees like greaseball maggot brain, Mrs JM Karr-NAMBLA, aborted foreskin et al have NOTHING, NADA, ZIP, ZERO, BUGGER ALL to say of any worth or note.

These vile leftist shameless dogturds are VASTLY more deserving of an Iranian Hizbollocks IED than any allied soldier or Iraqi policeman. We really urgently need to rid the country of these kind of leftist vermin, they have no place in polite civilised society. Their despicable intolerance and rabid moral fascism merely shows us how the hate America unpatriotic left should be dealt with by true patriots. Zero tolerance of anti_American cowardice and perfidy, if not forcibly deported then at the very least they should be rounded up and interned indefinitely in forced labour camps and made to build a 2000 mile 30 ft electrified fence on the southern border from sea to shining sea.

By Buy Danish

June 10, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

@@,

Thanks for the lead to the “Guidebook for Taking a Life”.

Getalife,

Is it okay with you if I show that Guide book to my kid and discuss the morality of it, or is that unfair anti-Jihadist propagandizing in your opinion?

By Markus

June 10, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

A friend sent me this link. It’s BRILLIANT. It’s 7 minutes, but worth every minute into the mind of liberalism. Basically, it’s how the liberal mainstream media would have reported the D-Day invasion.

By WootenDull

June 10, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

It looks like Cynthia Tucker is just a bit upset this morning:

{{{By Go Andi/e Yourself June 10, 2007 9:46 AM}}}

{{{By Reverend Ted Haggard June 10, 2007 10:34 AM It’s Sunday, and I’m standing on my pulpit today too, Markus. And I’m not wearing any underpants! (Meet me and Andi/e under the bed.)}}}

Can’t you just picture the veins popping out of Cynthia Tucker’s forehead as she furiously gay bashes on the Wooten blog?

Geez, Cynthia Tucker, take it easy.

The gays aren’t out to get you Cynthia Tucker.

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By Markus

June 10, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Almost two sets to one already -> Nadal. I’m gonna have some easy money today. {smile}

By WootenDull

June 10, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

{{{With the exception of that single thermal blanket, Atlantis looked to be in great shape after astronauts spent Saturday meticulously scanning its heat shield with a camera attached to the end of a robotic arm and boom to make sure there was no damage from launch like the kind that doomed Columbia in 2003.}}}

With the exception of a bullet in the head the patient was otherwise unhurt.

Geez.

Isn’t it comforting to know, according to NASA, that when this thing crashes into the Ocean, the water will be .06 degrees warmer due to the activities of man?

You know, the “important” things that our “space” agency is working on.

Who cares if they can’t launch a rocket without it coming apart as long as they give al-Gore something to freak out over.

POS.

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By getalife

June 10, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

BD,

Show your kid what a real American stand for

Whatever you do, keep them away from Andy.

He is bat sh-it crazy and thinks Cyntia Tucker is blogging here.

Insane in the membrane.

Geez.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

Nah, no media bias whatsoever. The Communist News Network’s Soledad O’Brien looks like she’s about to jump Obama’s bones in this pic. The fawning head tilt, the grasping hands to “touch.” Awwweeee. It’s so moving.

Yeah, and liberal media bias is a vast right-wing myth.

PHHHBBTBTBTBTBTBTBTBTBT

By Gay Conservative

June 10, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

We’re in the highest levels of government

By getalife

June 10, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Actually, it will be NASA to find the next planet for people to live.

Idiots like you will destroy that one too.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

The gods have parted the waters. A liberal is bashing liberal bias at the Washington Compost.

“I’m a knee-jerk liberal, but sometimes I find myself sympathetic to conservatives who see bias in The Post.”

Dude, your entire sick philosophy of liberalism is knee-jerk. I’ve said it here countless times. You geniuses react first then think about the consequences later. Corn or sugar fuel? NO PROBLEMO! Just DO IT NOW DAMMIT!!! But anyway dude, I tip my hat to you for your comment to the Compost. There is hope for seeing the light.

Our very own beloved Al Jazeera Urinal Cynthia Tucker said we should drop Spam ala Berlin airlift to help feed Afghani refugees, while not researching that Spam and other potted processed meat products have pork in them.

Another Sunday side note: I’ve got a mini side bet on my French Open bet that our resident liberals are now pulling collectively for the Swiss Federer to win since I picked the Spaniard Nadal. (Spain caved to terrorism, remember??)

By Gay Conservative

June 10, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

Markus’s favorite?

By Buy Danish

June 10, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

Isn’t one of the reasons that we are in Iraq now because General Powell wouldn’t let us finish Saddam off the first time?

As I recall, the images of the so-called “Highway of Death” made us look too mean.

By Buy Danish

June 10, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

Markus,

I’m pulling for Federer. Please don’t tell me that that puts me in cahoots with the liberals.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

Did you say something diseased liberal filth Polly/God’s Trash poof queef?

Anyway, this has GOT to be one of the Top Five RAT irony moments of all time. William “Ziplock freezer burn” Jefferson, the man who is anti-NRA like most diseased hypocritical liberal RATs, has been ordered to turn in his guns. HAHAHAHAHAH!!!

WTF are you psychobabbling about now, craponlife?

By Markus

June 10, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

BD, I like Federer because he’s Swiss. I have no respect for the Spaniards and really don’t want to see Nadal win. But, that won’t stop me from making money off their victory from an idiot who doesn’t keep up with tennis. {Nadal has first break in 4th set, and I see a new Onkyo 7.1 HDMI receiver in my future, hehe.}

By Gay Conservative

June 10, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Poor Rudy. And poor Rudy’s kids! Now that he’s finally come out, maybe the heeling with his first (well, actually his second) family can begin…see the video

Family values… Rudy style.

By WootenDull

June 10, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife June 10, 2007 11:38 AM Actually, it will be NASA to find the next planet for people to live.}}}

al-Gitmo: Actually, it will probably be the Chinese that find the next planet for us to live on.

Our Kandy As-s Koward “space” agency will still be navel gazing at the Earth’s oceans, longing for them to please warm just another tenth of a degree.

Duh.

When the Chinese government tells people that the Oceans may warm if we humans aren’t eliminated, the Chinese GOP just laughs at them.

Like we should be doing.

If this shuttle flames out coming back to Earth, NASA has killed more people this year than “global warming” has.

So you Kowards suit up and go bravely marching into battle, making war on the atmosphere, geez.

Dumbas-ses.

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By jo jo gunne

June 10, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

WootenDull,

Who cares if they can’t launch a rocket without it coming apart

Either very uninformed, given to obnoxious exaggeration or truly hoping that the STS blows up, this blogger sounds a tad irrational. The problem with the tile is a minor one and not likely to severely damage the spacecraft.

Many of the astronauts at NASA are trained fighter pilots and in some cases still on active duty. Their education, intellect and courage is unmatched. Disrespecting them is particularly repulsive. The American space program is certainly imperfect but has always offered us one of the truly great hopes for mankind’s future.

Get used to it.

By getalife

June 10, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

Actually BD,

He admitted he was lied to and did the honorable thing and resigned.

Real men do this when they screw up.

Wingnuts will never admit Iraq is a mistake.

They just can’t man up to it.

Cowards.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

Leave it to a dumb@ssed hypocritical diseased liberal POS to suddenly start queefing over family values.

By getalife

June 10, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

Good point on the Chinese Andy.

Always knew you are a commie pinko who cheers on China while bashing America.

Traitor, coward, commie loving POS.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

OH yeah, and a dumb@ssed diseased liberal demonRAT who reads AOL blogs to boot!

By Markus

June 10, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

“He admitted he was lied to and did the honorable thing and resigned. Real men do this when they screw up.”

Just over an hour ago I posted about William Jefferson’s bullsh!t that he plead NOT GUILTY to. Then craponlife has the gall to post that^^ hypocritical liberal snot.

Then there’s the Clintoons, Berger, Reid, Kennedy, blah blah blah.

Meaningless. Useless. Pointless. Dead air.

Zombietime.

By getalife

June 10, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

Nobody is talking to you macaca.

Slip on your little tennis outfit and go play.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

I won the bet. Of course, I’m always right. Easy money.

Can anyone recommend a good internet retailer to buy a new home theater receiver from? I used to get Crutchfield mags, but that was years ago.

I will never purchase another good from Circuit City again since they canned their employees, and Worst Buy is just that. I also don’t care for the overpriced HiFi Buys and other specialty audio-videophile stores.

I’d like to take advantage of as many major internet purchases possible before the diseased liberal RATs take over and tax us all to death.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

No craponlife, just nobody from your diseased sickassed liberal ilk is talking to me. I sure as hell don’t blame them.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

jo jo gunne:

Since you are a noob (that’s “newbie” to you tongue pierced liberal freaks in Virginia Highlands), I’ll go easy on you. WD, like many others here including Yours Truly, posts sarcasm. Either you haven’t read enough posts or you are our resident ID poofer with yet another new ID fooling everyone as usual. I’ve got even money on that one.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

One liberal RAT calls me a pot bellied mechanic, then another says I should put my cute little tennis outfit on and go play tennis.

Is liberalism a disease of the brain or what?

By JH

June 10, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

Markus, as a sometimes liberal (but never diseased or RAT-like!) who also shudders at the thought of greedy politicians making us pay taxes on Internet purchases, I would recommend you at least look at BOSE.

Their products are pricey but the quality and value is fantastic. And the sound is, oh so sweet.

Speaking of greedy politicans, that “Dollar Bill” Jefferson from Louisiana is a real work of art!

No political party, no race and no locale seems to have a monopoly on corruption and immorality these days.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Thanks JH, but I find BOSE overpriced too. I had a BOSE 5.1 setup years ago (sounded great in the store!), and wasn’t any more impressed than what a friend’s much less expensive 5.1 Yamaha/Polk setup offered in performance in a similar room setting.

By getalife

June 10, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

w is unhinged like Andy

My goodmess,

This guy is a total embarrassment.

Geez.

By Buy Danish

June 10, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife

June 10, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

Slip on your little tennis outfit and go play.}}}

Getalife,

Why are you asking a man to do that?

What a weirdo.

By jo jo gunne

June 10, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Oh I get sarcasm. I use it frequently myself, oh suspicious one! Sorry to blow your conspiracy theory but there is only one of me. I visit and post here once in a blue moon and my moniker comes from an old 70’s R&R band.

And though it is true I’ve not read nearly as many of these posts as you, it is obvious from reading just the one’s listed here in the past few hours, I’ve got a pretty good handle on the typical semi-mindless back and forth sniping that goes on here between two highly polarized and partisan camps. Both of whom believe in the absolute perfection and righteousness of their own ideas.

That and a constant dose of juvenile name-calling leads me to believe that my claim of WD’s irrationality is not wrong. It looks like he has plenty of company too.

By Buy Danish

June 10, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

Get back Jo Jo!

Sorry. I can’t resist.

Getalife,

I can’t believe the meaningless tripe that you link to.

Maybe if he just threw Merkel down on the floor, raped her, and told her to “put some ice on that” you’d think he was a great President.

By jo jo gunne

June 10, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

Good one Buy Danish!

But sorry, no California grass for me!

Do you remember the band Spirit? A couple of the guys left when they disbanded and formed jo jo gunne. I always liked the name and it is a kind of play on words of my name.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

“And though it is true I’ve not read nearly as many of these posts as you, it is obvious from reading just the one’s listed here in the past few hours, I’ve got a pretty good handle on the typical semi-mindless back and forth sniping that goes on here between two highly polarized and partisan camps.”

Welcome to the fray, Jo Jo. If you stay around here a while, you’ll understand why being “suspicious” is the rule around here. Not from the right, but from the shenanigans of the sick left. One thing you may not have picked up on is that liberals here pretend to be centrist then bury their true feelings in between the lines. At least we Conservatives don’t pu$$yfoot around and waste time.

By WootenDull

June 10, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

{{{By jo jo gunne June 10, 2007 12:04 PM Either very uninformed, given to obnoxious exaggeration}}}

Jojo: Did you know that NASA changed the foam on the shuttle’s external fuel tanks from a Freon based compound to one that is more “environmentally friendly?”

And that the very first launch that new foam came apart and caused seven astronauts to burn up over Texas?

You know, one man’s definition of exaggeration can be another man having his head up his as-s?

{{{Many of the astronauts at NASA are trained fighter pilots and in some cases still on active duty. Their education, intellect and courage is unmatched. Disrespecting them is particularly repulsive.}}}

I feel sorry for those astronauts, sorry that they work for such a dull agency full of mindless junk science worshiping Kowards, who are too stupid to recognize that the Sun’s solar activity is causing the Earth and, check this out, Mars, too warm at the exact same ratio.

You reckon the National Aeronautical and Space Agency would know a little bit about Mars?

Geez.

Maybe NASA has an agenda?

Duh?

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By Buy Danish

June 10, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

Moving right along here - why didn’t the Times print the JFK terrorist story on the front page and instead relegate it to page 30?

Because the editor “questioned the timing”. Just like Keith Olbermann.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

WOAH what an F1 crash in Montreal. That was incredible. Looked like an F-18F Super Hornet on takeoff that hit a wall. Lucky guy.

BD, now you know that ANYTHING that happens under Bush’s watch is “questionable timing.” That is, until something happens under his watch that is not prevented, then it’s “he didn’t do enough to stop it.”

Sick, sick, sick.

By jo jo gunne

June 10, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

WootenDull, sorry, I just don’t buy your NASA is a gigantic, liberal agenda driven, anti-American, junk science crowd disguised as this country’s premier organization responsible for long-term civilian and military aerospace research.

It looks like you’re seeing bogey men everywhere. There is no need to be so afraid. I assure you they are not trying to get their people killed or rig the scientific findings just to p!ss off naysayers like you.

Welcome to the fray indeed Markus!

This blog is quite a challenge for me as I do not easily fit into either “side”.

In some ways I’m pretty conservative - I enlisted during the Vietnam War, am pro death penalty, am opposed to most gun controls and believe that governments should operate fiscally like my household - within its means.

In other ways I’m fairly liberal - although I hate these excessive abortion, I’m pro choice. I also tolerate, but don’t sanction homosexuality.

I have voted for Reagan, Clinton and Nader. And I begrudgingly voted for Purdue. So I’m kind of all over the map and don’t give my allegiance to any party or person.

But this place is kinda fun and I can learn some new things, so c’est la vie. Sorry to the French haters!

By Buy Danish

June 10, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

This is scary stuff.

A British company has been closed down after being caught in an apparent attempt to sell black-market weapons-grade uranium to Iran and Sudan, The Observer can reveal. Anti-terrorist officers and MI6 are now investigating a wider British-based plot allegedly to supply Iran with material for use in a nuclear weapons programme. One person has already been charged with attempting to proliferate ‘weapons of mass destruction’.

{{{During the 20-month investigation, which also involved MI5 and Customs and Excise, a group of Britons was tracked as they obtained weapons-grade uranium from the black market in Russia. Investigators believe it was intended for export to Sudan and on to Iran.

A number of Britons, who are understood to have links with Islamic terrorists abroad, remain under surveillance. Investigators believe they have uncovered the first proof that al-Qaeda supporters have been actively engaged in developing an atomic capability. }}}

I don’t know. If I were W I don’t think I’d be welcoming Putin into my parent’s summer home.

By Buy Danish

June 10, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

{{{I assure you they are not trying to get their people killed or rig the scientific findings just to p!ss off naysayers like you.}}}

Jo Jo,

I don’t think they are trying to p!ss anyone off. Au Contraire, it’s far more likely they are hoping to be embraced by the Goreacles and other true believers.

You’ll have to let us know what the “Scientific findings are”. So far all we’ve gotten are a bunch of silly theories that defy logic and disregard recorded history.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

“WootenDull… It looks like you’re seeing bogey men everywhere. There is no need to be so afraid.”

Hmmmmm. Sounds familiar. VERY familiar.

I’m just sayin’…

By Markus

June 10, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

A part of BD’s post:

“A number of Britons, who are understood to have links with Islamic terrorists abroad, remain under surveillance.”

And sick liberal demonRATs don’t want us to do that^^. Yes, let’s trust these mangy mongrel liberal RATs to our national security.

I don’t think so.

By GodHatesTrash

June 10, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

The JFK “conspirators” are a bunch of worthless kooks.

We were no more in danger from them then we are from an impotent worthless cowardly loser like, say, POS Andi/e.

Or you Bi Danish.

You wouldn’t hurt a fly. Couldn’t. Too scary.

Trash.

By jo jo gunne

June 10, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

So far all we’ve gotten are a bunch of silly theories that defy logic and disregard recorded history.

Shirley, you jest! I just can’t begin to imagine what exactly you are referring to, but would like very much to know specifically what you mean.

I’m thinking more along the lines of the awe inspiring Hubble Telescope that has allowed us to peer to the very ends of the known universe and to gain an even better understanding of the cosmos and how it works.

Also the vast number of technologies that have found practical and beneficial earth bound uses. And I’m not talking about Tang!

And the ISS allows us to do long-term experiments in space in a wide variety of fields from micro-technology to biology to human physiology. And the fact that it is truly an international effort helps us realize that all men are in this crazy game of life together.

Like I told WD, I have a very difficult time taking people seriously who solely focus on vast conspiracy theories rather than the incredibly valuable science and the benefits for man that the US space program provides.

By @@

June 10, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

PoliFore:

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised to find out that your last name is “Woods”.

NEW YORK —A man has sued the maker of the health drink Boost Plus, claiming the vitamin-enriched beverage gave him an erection that would not subside and caused him to be hospitalized.

They say Woods, 29, underwent surgery for implantation of which moves blood from one area to another.

So they implanted your brain where it should have been all along; from the small head to the big head?

Tell me PoliFore; can you hear it rattling now when you run, jump, or nod?

I wish you had told me. I’d have sent you a get-swelled card.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

Hahahahaha! Good one @@. That stupid idiot sheeplebat diseased communist Polly/God’s Liberal Trash wannabe RAT couldn’t get out of it’s own bed-ridden way.

By JohnD

June 10, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

Markus,

Check out Melton’s on Brook Hollow Parkway near Norcross and the intersection with Jimmy Carter Blvd.

Family owned and beats the prices of the chain stores you mentioned.

Good people and a selection.

By Buy Danish

June 10, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

JoJo,

The point of WD’s original post was about environmentalists and Global Warming.

The “science” I referred to was the junk science of global warming (and WD also mentioned the enviros insistence on using “environmentally friendly” heat shields - which resulted in the unnecessary death of the Challenger Astronauts).

That is not a “conspiracy theory” as there were no “conspirators”. Just a bunch of damned fools.

No one is complaining about exploring the wonders of the universe or the Hubble Telescope.

That’s what NASA is supposed to do.

By getalife

June 10, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

I just read a great book you should all read

By WootenDull

June 10, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

{{{By jo jo gunne June 10, 2007 2:27 PM Like I told WD, I have a very difficult time taking people seriously who solely focus on vast conspiracy theories rather than the incredibly valuable science and the benefits for man that the US space program provides.}}}

Dude: Did you miss the Challenger disaster too?

Check this out, drop the junk science and focus on building a shuttle or some other space vehicle that doesn’t burst into flames during flight, you know what I mean?

Concentrate all of their energies an their stated, tax payer funded mission, instead of playing in the Oceans?

You do realize that these goofballs launched the Hubble into orbit with the wrong lens installed and had to send another shuttle up to refocus it at less than it’s planned capacity?

Just imagine for a moment what that cost.

This is how you define success, the benchmark being a shuttle mission that doesn’t crash land into the Ocean?

Geez.

Me, I’m thinking it’s good that the Russians ran out of money because they would be on Jupiter right now, thumbing their nose at us.

A new study by NASA scientists finds that the world’s temperature is reaching a level that has not been seen in thousands of years. The study, led by James Hansen of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, N.Y In contrast to the Western Pacific, the researchers find that the Eastern Pacific Ocean has not shown an equal magnitude of warming. They explain the lesser warming in the East Pacific Ocean, near South America, as being due to the fact this region is kept cool by upwelling, rising of deeper colder water to shallower depths. Hansen and his colleagues suggest that the increased temperature difference between the Western and Eastern Pacific may boost the likelihood of strong El Ninos.

1) What is this as-shole doing in the ocean? Wouldn’t that be the tax payer funded mission of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration?

2) Why is this as-shole making silly implausible excuses for the findings that don’t fit his agenda?

There is BIG MONEY IN CLIMATE CHANGE and all of these career government goonies are jockeying around trying to seize some of it.

If they don’t have tax payer money, they don’t like get paid?

You know what I mean?

And I have every right to be scared of a Kandy As-s Koward that has their foot in the door of the US Treasury, we’re like what, a couple hundred trillion in debt as it stands?

How much more idiocy can we take before we collapse?

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By @@

June 10, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

The Clintons and now Pelosi? It’s a good thing I don’t place much value on polls.

Database company InfoUSA, under fire from a shareholder lawsuit for the millions paid to the Clintons, is pushing its tentacles deeper into the bowels of the Democratic Party.

Nancy Pelosi’s son, Paul Pelosi Jr., was hired by InfoUSA four weeks after she ascended to the House speakership. He is paid $180,000 a year as senior vice president for strategic planning.

The corrupting politics always in evidence around the Clintons has Gupta’s firm recently buying Opinion Research Corporation, which now is the polling operation for CNN. Just in time for Hillary’s presidential bid.

If America’s voters have a shred of dignity, they won’t once again allow the moral offensiveness of the Clinton empire to befoul the White House.

Let’s all keep in mind that InfoUSA is the same company that sold database info on the elderly. Those same databases were later used by scam artists to bilk the elderly out of their life savings.

Shameful…just shameful! and then we have William Jefferson(D)?

Please tell me this isn’t true.

419 scam has links to US

Former vice-president Atiku Abubakar said in a statement that Lousiana Democrat William Jefferson, who is under a bribery indictment in the US, tried to legitimise his business ventures by linking them to Abubakar.

Disgusting…just disgusting. Do the democrats care anything about innocent victims?

I guess the only victims that democrats care about are the ones they can cultivate in their democratic “Garden of Even”.

By WootenDull

June 10, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

Letting the Conservative in him out:

{{{WASHINGTON — Sen. Joseph Lieberman said Sunday the United States should consider a military strike against Iran because of Tehran’s involvement in Iraq. “I think we’ve got to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq,” Lieberman said. “And to me, that would include a strike over the border into Iran, where we have good evidence that they have a base at which they are training these people coming back into Iraq to kill our soldiers.”}}}

Whereas his Kandy As-s Koward political party wants to flee from Iraq, turning the whole thing over to Iran.

About time to make that switch, ain’t it Joe?

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By @@

June 10, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

Damn Getalife, I just checked out your profile at Get-a-life Got-a-life.

This audio clip was in there.

Is that you wandering around in the fever swamps. WTH is that you’re pulling on?

By Markus

June 10, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

Don’t look now, but Puff-Daddy-P-Diddy-Sean-Combs-Sean-John has a new fragrance out now in the Sunday Belk sales rag called “Unforgivable.” Hey, you know how like Polo and Tommy and other designers always throw in a freebie like a shaving kit or small travel bag with their cologne? I wonder, does Puff-Daddy-P-Diddy-Sean-Combs-Sean-John’s “fragrance” come with a free gun case and 9mm shells?

By @@

June 10, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

One of the most amusing moments in the last Democratic Debate was when the question about taking action against Darfur was posed. Total silence from everyone except Biden.

Biden, very aggressive, for a Democrat anyway, suggested implementing a “no-fly zone”. The rest of the dems woke up and said….

“Did he say “no-fly zones”? Oh yea, yea, I’d be willing to implement a no-fly zone, turning to each other saying…”you would too, right”…”oh sure, sure…I’d be willing to implement a no-fly zone…you bet”. “We’re with you on that Joe”.

Whew!!!! They almost looked weak there for a moment. Pulled that one out…

of their a$$.

By getalife

June 10, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

@@,

“You must of been high”.

Dedicated to Andy.

Like my new blog?

By @@

June 10, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Like my new blog?

I do indeed. Not much on opposing views though are you?

No comments allowed. No box. (ISH)

By getalife

June 10, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

@@,

Its my way or the Internet highway.

What is the gop position on Darfur?

More genocide like in Iraq?

By Markus

June 10, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

More evidence of John “Terrorism Is A Bumper Sticker” Edwards’ disease of liberalism and the denial of freaking REALITY.

A number of Britons, who are understood to have links with Islamic terrorists abroad, remain under surveillance. Investigators believe they have uncovered the first proof that al-Qaeda supporters have been actively engaged in developing an atomic capability. The British company, whose identity is known to The Observer but cannot be disclosed for legal reasons, has been wound up.

Yes, let’s all listen to the pathetic limpwristed head-in-the-sand left like craponlife and make like them and no longer “hide under our beds” with this “bumper sticker” cause.

Sick, sick, sick.

“I do indeed. Not much on opposing views though are you?”

@@, surely by now you would come to realize that one of the sicknesses of the disease of liberalism is quelling dissenting opinion.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

What did Darfur ever do to America?

By jo jo gunne

June 10, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

The “science” I referred to was the junk science of global warming

Oh, I see. I had forgotten that NASA was one of the now seemingly countless scientific organizations that believes that the evidence supporting global warming is at least partially explained by man’s addiction to fossil fuels.

And I must admit I’ve never known anyone who used the word environmentalist in such a pejorative manner. Silly me, I always thought that people who protect the air, water, animals, plants, and other natural resources from pollution or its effects were to be commended. Yes, a small minority is misguided and extremist and those are probably the ones you concentrate on. Look for only the bad in people or organizations and I guess you can always find it.

But I think you misunderstand me, Buy Danish. I am not interested in persuading or convincing you that NASA is not one of the bad guys or that their work isn’t quackery and done to gain the good will of the hated liberals. And based on his harangues and asinine assertions that NASA can only look into space and not at the earth, or her volcanoes, oceans, forests etc., I’ve already reached the conclusion that WD is completely over-the-edge hopeless.

So believe what you will. I just think that in spite of your claims to the contrary, you have concocted a great conspiracy that simply doesn’t exist. You demonize everyone, including NASA, who supports this theory that you so clearly don’t. And in so doing, this becomes the utmost consideration and you fail to see the much more important issues and benefits surrounding this organization. I’m sure you have your reasons, but I’ll put my money on NASA, their overall track record of excellence and discovery, their vast experience and knowledge and the best science available.

Enjoy your Sunday evening! I’m off to grill some steaks and further warm the planet!

By Political Foreskin

June 10, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

. . . Terrorism isn’t a bumper sticker, it’s toe tag.

By Political Foreskin

June 10, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

Why does it always take a crack team of plumbers to fix the leak under my sink?

(but-crack, get it?)

By @@

June 10, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

Markus:

@@, surely by now you would come to realize that one of the sicknesses of the disease of liberalism is quelling dissenting opinion.

Indeed I do Markus. I learned the hard way. To deviate ever so slightly provokes the rage in them.

Getalife:

For now I think Bush is approaching the situation in Darfur with “economic” diplomacy. I really think it’s a situation for NATO and the U.N.

Problems in Sudan aren’t a recent problem Getalife, and you know that. They’ve been around for some time. Why all the fuss now? Why not earlier, like when Clinton was in office?

By Political Foreskin

June 10, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

Are the Repudlickans patriots or patent idiots?

By getalife

June 10, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

PF,

Did you send Paris your love here?

@@,

w will not do anything and if he did it would turn to crap.

I am talking about the gop candidates.

By @@

June 10, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

PoliFore:

Did you drag those ^^^ two over from the dust encrusted vent like you did yesterday?

“I’m allergic to cats, and so I’ll just have to be a crazy dog lady”. (@@ finally got in the vent!)

Pitiful! Just pitiful.

Getalife:

I’m going to give you the opportunity to eliminate a problem.

Make it the second one in my second paragraph at 5:07.

I’m outta here. The pool and the sun has zapped me. I think I’ll nap.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

By Political Foreskin June 10, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this Are the Repudlickans patriots or patent idiots?

Pollydik/God’s Trash is just another exhibit in the brilliance of the disease of liberalism and brilliant “input” on this blog. You know, Manson was brilliant too. Or so he thought…

By WootenDull

June 10, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

{{{By jo jo gunne June 10, 2007 4:53 PM I’ve already reached the conclusion that WD is completely over-the-edge hopeless.}}}

Heh, the not so polite way of saying “I am unable to dispute his claims, so I will do the liberal thing and babble followed by a cut and run.”

Geez.

{{{And based on his harangues and asinine assertions that NASA can only look into space and not at the earth, or her volcanoes, oceans, forests etc.}}}

So then I suppose that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration should start launching shuttles into space?

This is not that hard to understand.

Something is lacking at NASA and it shows.

Duh.

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By Markus

June 10, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

More Breck Girl “Terrorism Is A Bumper Sticker” Edwards’ non-event scheduling and routing within the Beltway. That man is the man to go with IMO. Like Clintoon, we can all just stick our heads up our collective @sses and pretend terrorism doesn’t exist and that nobody wants to FREAKING DESTROY OUR CIVILIZATION. Hell sh!t, it worked for Clintoon for eight years and nothing happened, RIGHT YOU IDIOT LIBERAL SHEEPLEBOTS?

By Political Foreskin

June 10, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

My wife mixed my viagra with the date rape drug and told me to go feck myself.

It was hard to get happy after that one.

I got pistol whipped….at gun point…during a knife fight…that went down during a drug deal gone bad…..at Eckards…when the pharmacist mixed my viagra with the date rape drug and then told me to go fook myself!

It was hard to get happy after that one.

My wife mixed my viagra with exlax. Now I suffer from premature evacuation.

It was hard to get happy after that one.

By getalife

June 10, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

Wingnut logic on Darfur dictates we should not have saved the Jews from the Nazis.

If the wingnuts would fight in Iraq like they fight global warming is not real, the occupation would be won.

Have the wingnuts ever been right on anything?

I think not.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

Uh oh. Iraqis are getting sick and tired of the diseased liberal demoncat’s heroes, al Qaeda. What the hell with the al Jazeera Urinal and CNN have to report with down the road ever do with their Bushwadded pretty pink panties?

“The Iraqi government has long declared its determination to root out terrorists in the country, and its security forces have been fighting Al Qaeda for months. But now, ordinary Iraqis, most significantly Sunni Arabs in Al Anbar province (until now the chief supporters of the terrorists), are putting their lives on the line against Al Qaeda as well.”

Yes, let’s pull out now effin’ stupid idiots.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

“If the wingnuts would fight in Iraq like they fight global warming is not real, the occupation would be won.”

Craponlife:

A) Nobody has said global warming is NOT happening. HISTORY shows that GLOBAL WARMING HAS HAPPENED. Get over your sickassed selves already. GET IT THROUGH YOUR DEAD HEAD THAT GLOBAL WARMING HAPPENS LIKE GLOBAL COOLING AND MANKIND HAS LITTLE TO N-O-T-H-I-N-G TO DO WITH IT.

B) Hypocritical jackals like you who don’t go out and SWEAT AND SHED BLOOD fighting the *”War On Poverty” *are hypocrites and lazyassed keyboard warrior cowards.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

You stupid liberals think global warming is man-made NOW? Wait until an islamofascist nuke hits New York or Los Angeles.

You pathetic bumper sticker head-in-the-sand jackassed liberal candyassed RATs.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this

Nothing like a good fight in ‘Bama. One RAT congressman calls a Republican an SOB and said Republican retaliates with a SWEET blow to the head on the sick RAT. Nice, VERY nice. I love it. To hell with words.

By WootenDull

June 10, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

The number 6 democrat candidate announced that he wants to bomb Darfur, now all these Kowards are manning up:

{{{By getalife June 10, 2007 5:34 PM Wingnut logic on Darfur dictates we should not have saved the Jews from the Nazis.}}}

Before this morning, none of the other 12 pinkos knew there was a Darfur, now they got the hots for the U.S. Air Force, which they also knew nothing about before this morning.

Geez.

Anybody want to bet that if Bush were to take Biden’s advice, all of the other dullards would quickly figure out what “enforcing a no fly zone” meant and would promptly freak out?

And start calling for us to cut and run from the quagmire in Darfur?

Geez, you think we don’t remember?

This is an unbelievably pitiful field of Kowards that are running in 08, we don’t even need lazy Fred to defeat these clowns.

If I were a lib, I’d be longing for Micheal Dukakis.

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By Markus

June 10, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this

“Have the wingnuts ever been right on anything?”

Well, I was “right” today to the tune of some $x,xxx. {smile}

But, it’s kinda hard to say who’s “right” about things like Iraq when history is still in the writing phase. You idiot liberals want to rewrite past history and change the course of the future (and jeopardize US security) solely on your selfish and pathetic cause of Bush/Republican hating.

By Deport 12 million scumbags

June 10, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

You idiotic neo-cons do realize that virtually the entire educated world rejects your unfounded nonsense and childish claims that mankind has n-o-t-h-i-n-g to do with global warming, right? You have heard that almost everyone now thinks you are ignorant and willfully blind, right? And you do know that all but a minuscule percentage of the experts think you are merely ridiculous simpletons, right? And you losers publicizing your stupidity and venom is N-E-V-E-R going to change that!

Fortunately the world will never be run by 15th century morons like yourselves again. You have N-O chance to win this debate. You are completely ill-equipped and you will never be trusted to speak the truth. You are only destined to fail miserably and the entire world is ignoring your pathetic and futile attempts.

Go burn some books, you cretins.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

“Fortunately the world will never be run by 15th century morons like yourselves again.”

Nice ID poof, Pollydik. Who the F are you to talk about 15th century when your punkassed diseased ilk licks the feet of islamic terrorists? IDIOT.

Oh yeah, and sell your cheap laced Kool Aid man-made global walarmism to some empty-plated Somali refugee. As-shole.

By Markus

June 10, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah, and stick THIS ‘entire world’ opinion on man made global warming up your nose, you smelly wacked out fascist pig liberal ID poof freakshow.

By Buy Danish

June 10, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

{{{You demonize everyone, including NASA, who supports this theory that you so clearly don’t.}}}

JoJo,

What evidence do you have of that^^^sweeping theory?

Have you been lurking at this blog for a long time and only just decided to speak up today?

Well since we’re making sweeping assumptions, I’m going to assume that you don’t really know squat about the “science” of “global warming” one way or the other.