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Stealing the good names of the dead

Lawmakers in Arizona are considering, and should approve, legislation that would outlaw the commercial use of the names of those who died in service to the country without the permission of their families. The legislation was prompted by the sale of anti-war tee shirts bearing the names and photos of those who lost their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Two other states, Oklahoma and Louisiana, have enacted similar laws and two more, Texas and Florida, have legislation awaiting a governor’s signature. The Arizona legislaiton was filed in response to the sale of tee shirts that list the names of the dead, along with such slogans as”Bush Lied — They Died” and “Support Our Remaining Troops — Bring the Rest Home Alive.”

Most of those who die in service to their country are young. Had they lived to old age, their life’s work and accomplishments and the lives they brought into the world or touched would stand as testament to its meaning. But because they answered the country’s call and made the supreme sacrifice, it is left to others, to those who knew them and to those who loved them, to tell their story.

As one who served in another unpopular war, it offends me deeply that their names or photos would be seized for a use and purpose they most likely would not have approved of in life. Not only do they lose their lives, but they lose, too, the right not to have their names and images corrupted into a campaign aimed at undermining public support for the war in which they served — and in which their buddies still serve.

Anti-war activists love to “honor” the dead by offering their names to make an anti-war statement. In a news context, it’s objectionable. When commercialized, it’s stealing something precious. It shouldn’t be allowed without the family’s permission.

“My son was not duped into going to war,” Margy Bons, a Phoenix-area mother whose son, Marine Sgt. Michael Marzano, was killed by a bomb in 2005, told the Associated Press. “I’m angry that somebody can use somebody else’s name for their political beliefs without permission.”

There oughta be a law…

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By TW

May 28, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this

The Vietnam Veterans silence on the misuse of todays troops is disgusting…misery loves company, maybe?

By catlady

May 28, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this

Somehow there seems a difference to me in using the names in a list and using a photo…..But I am not sure why. If using the names/photos is wrong, the AJC is wrong. They have published Doonesbury with a list of names, and the photos and names in the recounting of the 100/101 who have died from Georgia. Is that wrong, or is that in the public domain? And the AJC makes money from its newspaper sales….It seems like NOT mentioning them is wrong, also, especially given their general youth and promise which will not come to fruition now. And the deceased all volunteered….

By GodHatesTrash

May 28, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this

Bush lied - thousands have died, more are dying every day.

That’s the truth, you stupid effing rednecks.

Have a nice Memorial Day. Remember that there are almost 1000 more American families who lost someone involved in this fool’s errand just since last Memorial Day.

You stupid heartless trash. Shame on you.

Now, go wave your flags and thump your chests about how tough you are.

Pathetic.

By WTF

May 28, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

To: Godhatestrash

What does your comment have to do with anything? Are you talking about W?

By Dennis

May 28, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten writes, “As one who served in another unpopular war, it offends me deeply that their names or photos would be seized for a use and purpose they most likely would not have approved of in life. Not only do they lose their lives, but they lose, too, the right not to have their names and images corrupted into a campaign aimed at undermining public support for the war in which they served — and in which their buddies still serve.”

Mr. Wooten, did you complain when the military stole the names of Jessia Lynch and Pat Tillman for military propaganda purposes?

Tho I did not go to Vietnam, I was in service for a portion of that period (1962 - 1966) and it offends me deeply that your column is STILL supportive of a war in Iraq which has been proven to have been started on a pack of lies by the Bush administration. No responsible journalist can deny it.

Not only that, but the “unpopular war” in Vietnam was also continued on a pack of lies, wasn’t it?

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By GodHatesTrash

May 28, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

Expect lots of sentimentality and posturing today from the Woo-ten Klanners.

Flag-waving and macho cybertalk masquerading as patriotism, a thirst for bloody vengeance and revenge hiding as phony compassion, fear and hatred masquerading as blather and hoohah about duty, honor, country.

Hypocrisy, lies, distortion, and maudlin sentimentality - par for the conservative course.

Trash. Human beings die every single day because of your fear and loathing, and you cry for more more more.

Animals.

By WTF

May 28, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

The flag waving is not about machoism OR patriotism.

It is a simple act to honor those of have fallen in war so that a-holes like you can post your liberal, babbling rhetoric without fear of punishment.

I don’t think anyone waves the American flag to honor those who WE have killed.

War is hell.

Get over it.

Keep watching C.ommunist N.ews N.etwork for your facts and you will continue to remain angry at the U.S.

By Dennis

May 28, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

By catlady May 28, 2007 9:10 AM “…given their general youth and promise which will not come to fruition now.”

Murdred by their own government.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By getalife

May 28, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

There is a law silly.

Look it up Jim.

Geez.

By WTF

May 28, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

Dennis the Menace…LOL. Based on your last submission, are you suggesting that we send older men into combat so that the young may grow into “fruition?”

I generally don’t like name calling but you are an idiot just like your brother godhatestrash.

Feel free to gang up on me. You libs don’t stand a chance.

By Marty

May 28, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

Johnson lied, and over 58,000 died, who’s the bigger liar. Once we lose this war because of liberals, then the women of America can kiss women’s lib good by because you will be a servant of a man by Sura law.

By Dusty

May 28, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Way to go, Jim Wooten! There is still such a thing as “respect” for the dead.

Exploitation of dead soldiers (and other citizens) as a commercial make-money-anyway-you-can adventure is wrong. If we have people who do not know that, then lawmakers have to step in.

I don’t excuse the AJC either. They are supposedly a news agency. They claim their apparent lack of support for the country and the dead is a matter of free speech for all opinions, ‘specially in editorials and cartoons (see Luckovich today). That is their justification.

Jim Wooten does not use that privilege against the troops and country. I would call that patriotism, a nice word but no longer politically correct in certain circles.

By Redneck Convert

May 28, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Well, I think we ought to hold public executions of all the libruls that want to use the names of the war dead to make their point. That would be a good way of sellabrating life. Which us rednecks is very much in support of, specially when it comes to abortion and such. Of course, if we want to use the name of Jessica Lynch or Pat Tillman or some other soldier to drum up support for the war, that wouldn’t count as a crime. Just like using the names of Audie Murphy or Ira Hayes or other heros of WWII to get public support wouldn’t count. See, its OK to use the names of war dead and wounded to get support for a war, but only traders use their names to oppose a war.

As a good Southren patriot, I’m all for war. The bloodier the better. Back when I was handing out supplys from a tent in Guam, I use to wish there was a war going on. Of course, it mighta got in the way of my golf in the p.m. But it just ain’t Southren not to have some kind of war. Back then we was at peace and we didn’t have many of Those People in the ranks and everything was OK but not great. A good war would have made it a lot better.

Anyway, its a good day because I got it off. As a holiday. I reckon it ain’t so good for the famblys of the war dead. I understand that. Somebody got to die in war and I’m just glad it ain’t none of mine. Well, enough of all that. We are going over to the lake and have a good time grilling stuff and drinking beer. I hope Wooten keeps giving it to all the libruls. Whereever he is. Maybe down in Panama City beach. Now that’s a fancy spot us rednecks can all like.

I hope Wooten blocks this God Hates Trash guy from writing. I don’t know why he hates us rednecks. But he shouldn’t be able to write anything bad about us. We run this state and ought to have some control of what people say. His rights end when my feelings get hurt. Or when there’s a war on.

By getalife

May 28, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

I guess Jim does not want their names and pictures on CNN today too.

Geez, get an illegal immigrant to write this tripe and save money AJC.

Get with the program.

By WTF

May 28, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

Couldn’t have said it better myself Redneck Convert. Well said. You have more patience than I when it comes to libs. I would never waste that much time writing about them. They don’t listen to anything but CNN, Bowling for Columbine or George Soros anyway. Sigh.

By Acme Burqa Co

May 28, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

“C.ommunist N.ews N.etwork “

How did you come up with that? That is pure genius! Gosh. What a writer you are. So original.

And Marty. Wow. You are not exaggerating a bit. Any day now our women are going to all be wearing a Burqa. Golly, I’m going to invest all my money in The Acme Burqa Company. I’M RICH!!!!!

By Dennis

May 28, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

By WTF May 28, 2007 10:09 AM “Dennis the Menace…LOL. Based on your last submission, are you suggesting that we send older men into combat so that the young may grow into “fruition?”

Well, that might have some merit. Older heads are often wiser heads (tho Wooten, via his column, is an exception) and realize that they can’t whip the assess of everyone who comes along.

If I had my way, I’d prefer people like you and Bush and Cheney and Wooten go do your own fighting with those who want to fight you (the Middle East sands would be a wonderful place for it) and let those of us on all sides who don’t want to fight get on with our lives.

“Feel free to gang up on me.”

That won’t be necessary. You’re doing a good job of that all by yourself.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By WTF

May 28, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Acme Burqa Co.,

Yes my comment was not original but again, like most libs you had no response to the above posted comments.

All complaints and no solutions.

By getalife

May 28, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

You know this occupation has failed when they met with Iran for the first time in years.

“Help me Iran”, w begs.

Right.

Geez.

By Dusty

May 28, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

RedNeck Convert,

I support freedom of speech but I do hate “phonies” and you are the biggest bigot around. You hate Southerners so much you have to camouflage it with “cute”.

You exploit ignorance, not Southern. Believe me, ignorance is not endemic to the South. Look at the representatives in Congress from California, Massachusetts and New York. Need I say more?

You are definitely “funny”, ‘specially in the head.

By jm

May 28, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten, typical nanny state solution to the problem. If you don’t like it, outlaw it.

By OldNamVet

May 28, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

I came home from ‘Nam at Christmas in 1966 after 18 months in Vietnam. A friend took me out to the country club where I explained to some folks that we were supporting a corrupt Saigon government which was created by the CIA, and fighting a war which the Vietnamese would not fight. That upset some folks and one fellow told me that I was “talkin’ against our country.” Well, our government IS NOT OUR COUNTRY. Here’s a letter I wrote to the editor of our local paper back in 1995.

Thirty years ago I was in Vietnam. From May 1965 to November 1966, I served as an adviser with the South Vietnamese Army, and as an analyst and watch officer at MACV Intelligence (MACV J2). First, we did not lose the war, the Saigon Government lost it. By June 1965 they were being defeated by a South Vietnamese Viet Cong force and were on the verge of collapse. We went to the rescue. Ten years later, after we had withdrawn, they lost the war to a North Vietnamese invasion. We watched on TV as the Saigon leaders panicked and their country fell apart. I was not surprised. I had learned from intelligence reports and first hand observation that the Saigon Government was corrupt and did not have the support of the people or the rank and file members of the armed forces. I was involved in some of their operations which became known as “search and avoid”. It was obvious that they were not committed to fighting the war. They were more interested in making money through various scams and corruption such as extortion, bribery, and colluding with black marketeers, some of whom were dealing with the enemy. The war was not being fought at the grassroots level. Government and VC forces had a live and let live attitude with both operating in the same hamlets and villages. We called the situation. “a tacit truce at the hamlet-village level”. In his book: The 25-Year War, General Bruce Palmer states:”… .A certain degree of accommodation existed between South Vietnamese and local enemy forces, each operating in its own area, carefully avoiding the other’s turf…. this baffling situation was very difficult for Americans to understand.” Yes, and I still don’t understand why Americans were sent to fight a war which the Vietnamese would not fight. General Palmer also comments on the pervasive corruption. In the fall of 1965, some of the analysts looked at the Enemy losses, troop strength and source of recruits. We Concluded that: “The enemy will be able to replace his losses and continue a high level of guerrilla and terrorist activities indefinitely.” It was clear that we could not win a war of attrition. General Palmer notes that the CIA had reached a similar conclusion in 1964. It was senior military officers, not civilians in Washington, who adopted the “body count strategy” and stuck with it all those years. We could still be over there running up body counts. In his book: Vietnam at War, General Phillip Davidson states:”…the American news media, which was almost unanimously anti-American and anti-South Vietnamese… They harped on the corrupt and dissolute nature of the Thieu regime and its lack of popular support. American reports constantly derided ARVN and its combat effectiveness.” Is it anti-American to tell the truth? I feel that we would not have gotten involved in the Vietnamese Civil War if the U.S. government and military had told the public the truth about what was going on, including the CIA’s secret war against North Vietnam which led to the Gulf of Tonkin incident. I note that while we were supporting the French in their effort to reestablish colonial rule in Indochina, and later supporting a corrupt Saigon Government, all in the name of fighting godless communism, we were supporting Tito’s godless communism in Yugoslavia. If our purpose in Vietnam was to contain Red China, we should have given Ho Chi Minh the same support we gave Tito because the Vietnamese and Chinese have been enemies for centuries. And now Mr. McNamara tells us:” We were wrong, terribly wrong”. Some of us realized that thirty years ago. I expressed my views and resigned.

By WTF

May 28, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Dennis the Menace,

I agree that older heads are generally wiser but that does mean that they can fight a war, hence the word “OLD.”

Have you had your butt whipped by an old man for you to garner so much respect for them?

By WTF

May 28, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

OldNamVet,

Is your point that we shouldn’t help the Iraqi’s because they won’t help themselves?

By Dennis

May 28, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

By WTF May 28, 2007 10:51 AM Dennis the Menace, “Have you had your butt whipped by an old man for you to garner so much respect for them?”

No. But I’ve had YOUNG people like you to try it.

“I agree that older heads are generally wiser but that does mean that they can fight a war, hence the word “OLD.”

And, there are posts like yours, hence the word “FOOL”.

You need to go on outdoors and ride your trickle, sonney.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Dusty

May 28, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

WRF,10:24

Perhaps you do not recognize RedNecks and Captain Freedom as the liberals they are. They try “undercover” extreme opinions to make every conservative value as a “nutcase adventure”.

RedNeck parades as a comic “Southerner” and Captain Freedom as an elite comedian.

At least, “God Hates Trash” is honest in his posts as a “hate all conservatives” nut case. All three of this group come from the same liberal crowd of far “lefties”.

By Charles

May 28, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

As an African American who served in an unpopular war, 1954-1975, it’s extremely difficult to empathize with the soldiers who lost their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan who are presently being exploited.

The masses of African Americans are being exploited on a daily basis; we are exploited by integrationist black people. The first legitimate opportunity for our freedom occurred in 1916 with the coming of Marcus Garvey and the Universal Negro Improvement Association (UNIA).

Marcus Garvey had definitely captured the imagination of the masses of African Americans in the United States and abroad which infuriated prominent African Americans. His formula had the masses poised to secure power by way of black businesses and institutions capable of meeting the basic needs of African people everywhere; the blessings of liberty.

Since that epoch, selected, prominent African Americans have not come to terms with the rejection of their leadership; William Edward Burghardt Du Bois, a noted scholar, editor, and African American activist. Du Bois was a founding member of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP — the largest and oldest civil rights organization in America).

The masses of African Americans cast their lot with Marcus Garvey who was born in St. Ann’s Bay, Jamaica on August 17, 1887, the youngest of 11 children. He inherited a keen interest in books from his father, a mason and made full use of the extensive family library. At the age of 14 he left school.

In the minds of prominent integrationist Negroes, that was a complete betrayal; an uneducated outsider chosen over a formally educated insider. The masses of African Americans were to be punished psychologically through education to insure that they could not make another competent conscious decision which differed from integrationist Negroes, MK-ULTRA, CIA program on Mind Control.

It is difficult to empathize with lost soldiers who are now being exploited. We have millions of African American girls and boys being systematically, psychologically, castrated and exploited daily with the assistance of so-called prominent educated integrationist African Americans because of a competent decision made by the masses of black people during the epoch of Marcus Garvey.

By ron

May 28, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

I only hope that the Iraq vets won’t be hated like the Viet Nam vets were,[are?].I still tell no one that I was ever in Viet Nam.

By The Truth Hurts

May 28, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

Dennis asked at 9:28 if Wooten complained when the military stole the names of Jessia Lynch and Pat Tillman for military propaganda purposes.

I would like to also asked that question to Dusty.

How about it Dusty, will you admit that the military stole those names to prop up their mission? And will you admit they were wrong for doing so?

Since you have never admitted the military has ever made a mistake, or this administration for that matter, I’d say we can all predict what your answer will be.

By GaNavyVet

May 28, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

Happy Memorial Day! Compliments of the thousands of men and women whom served in the Navy, Marines, Air Force and Coast Guard, living and dead,Veterans and serving now. It is because of these folks you can express your feelings both pro and con. So enjoy your day off an your family and your picnic. We were glad to do our part and many would do it again.

By WTF

May 28, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

The truth Hurts,

Yes you are right that Tillman and Lynch’s last names were used as propaganda. It was used to help downplay what was going on at Abu-Ghurayb. So what? If it wasn’t for all you whinny arsed libs whinning about so called “torture methods” being used we wouldn’t have to use the above mentioned names to divert attention away from the prison.

Whoever said the military never made mistakes or that this administration never made one? The problem is..you libs only care when another party makes mistakes. Quit getting your info from Michael Moore and Sean Penn.

I am absolutely terrified if one your “heroes” gets elected into the oval office.

By WTF

May 28, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

GaNavyVet,

Thank you for your service to your country. I too served in the U.S.Navy. I served in the “Silent Service from 97-06’. Cheers to you and your family on this day and I agree with everything you said

To the my liberal enemies: It has been a pleasure blogging with you all. I only hope that one day you come over from the dark side. With that said, I wish you a “Happy Memorial Day.”

I’m off to enjoy the rest of my day with friends drinking beer.

Talk to you soon

By getalife

May 28, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

Instead of running your mouths on how you support the troops, put your money where you mouth is and donate to the Fisher foundation or others involved with the wounded vets.

You can donate sky miles too.

By JK

May 28, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

OldNamVet, thank you for your service, and for your outstanding courage. Bless you!

GaNavyVet, thank you for your service, and for your sacrifices. We will not forget!

Mr. Wooten thinks there ought to be a law restricting free speech? How do the Vets who fought (and watched their friends die) for that right feel about that?

Dusty, you don’t support the troops and we all know it. You support as many deaths as it takes for you to avoid admitting you were wrong about your hero, the silver-spoon swagger Prez. (He’s a Decider not a fighter.) Arrogance, thy name is Dusty.

My God bless and keep our soldiers safe, and bring them home to us healthy and whole!! May God forgive the bloodthirsty among us whose lust for power, money, and hatred causes death and suffering on Earth. Amen.

By Dennis

May 28, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

By ron May 28, 2007 11:28 AM “I only hope that the Iraq vets won’t be hated like the Viet Nam vets were,[are?].I still tell no one that I was ever in Viet Nam.”

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I was in service from 62 - 66, tho I didn’t go to Vietnam. I had questions about the war even then. It was when I got out that I finally had enough information to oppose that war (slow learner, I guess).

My experience of the protestors, tho this is not a hundred percent, was that the Vietnam protests were more than just against the war, but against the “establishment” as well - meaning the corporate structure that controlled other countries and the puppet politicians who voted (and still do) to give the corporations anything and everything they wanted at the expense of pubic needs.

There was the lying, manipulating media then just as there is the lying, manipulating media now, including Wooten.

These people just can’t understand why you would not want to be a member of the global empire.

I don’t think those who serve in Iraq will be treated like those who served in Vietnam. Be proud of your service there.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Redneck Convert

May 28, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

Well, I’m as sorry as can be to see that Sister Dusty is still mad at me over Joe Bill doing the No. 1 at the altar down at the Church of Holiness. After all the years of church-going with her, it hurts to see her calling me a fake and a librul. I just chalk it up to the stack of hymn books falling on her head a couple years ago. She’s been in a fighting mood ever since and strikes out like a blind rattler at anybody she thinks don’t like what she says.

All I can warn the rest of you about is she has a couple hulking sons that were in service and she’ll sic them on you if you ain’t careful. Far as I know Dusty herself was never in the service. Too short, wide and ugly, I guess. But she sure knows how to send everybody elses kids to fight and die and cheer them on. But she means well. Leastwise she ain’t godless like the commies and libruls and that God Hates Trash guy.

By carter

May 28, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

These CNN Koolaid drinkers should be more careful about what they are spouting for, they might get it. It was good to see Rosie O’Donnell get hers last week, it’ll be too soon if we ever hear from her again.

By GodHatesTrash

May 28, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Ever notice that most of the big cheerleaders for war are either chickenhawks who never served or they are the “Vietnam ERA” veterans who served in the Navy or the Air Force or never set foot in Vietnam, and if they did they were on ships or ground crews miles away from the action?

Another example is WTF - 9 years as a Navy Nuke - anybody seen any nuc-u-lar submarines in Fallujah or Baghdad?

If you got out in 2006, why don’t you join a real service like the Marines or the Army, and get yourself some real military experience?

By getalife

May 28, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

Schieffer: “I had breakfast the other day with the ambassador from one of America’s strongest and closest allies. We got to talking about Iraq and Vietnam, and he asked me what I thought the great lessons of those years have been. I said, first, that we can help people but we can’t do it for them, and, second, that America leads best when it leads by example – when we demonstrate how our system works by practicing what we preach, not by resorting to the methods of those who oppose us.”

This guy must be getting ready to retire from the corporate wh-ore media.

By getalife

May 28, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

dusty is a part time patriot.

gop only, like a good little fascist.

dem war?

fahgedaboudit.

Geez.

By The Truth Hurts

May 28, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

WTF - you asked “Whoever said the military never made mistakes or that this administration never made one.”

Dusty has, that’s who (or at least she has never admitted such.) That’s why I asked her today.

It was used to help downplay what was going on at Abu-Ghurayb. So what?

Sorry, but Abu-Ghurayb was not even a topic of discussion when the military lied and made up the big heroic story on Lynch. Get your facts straight. And Tillman’s family was lied to just because of our torture methods? Funny.

Sad thing is, they didn’t even need to. She was a hero for just going over there and fighting. They didn’t have to lie about her capture. Or Tillmans reason for death. Hey, let’s just lie about a soldier’s death anytime we need to then.

So you say “so what”? So you think it’s OK for the military to “make things up” (that’s lying, by the way).

And no, I don’t just care when only one party makes mistakes. The democrats have made too many to start listing. So did Bill Clinton. You have a wide paint brush your painting with there.

Quit getting your info from Michael Moore and Sean Penn.

What info did I get from them? That the military lied about Tillman and Lynch’s deaths? According to you, it was accurate information.

By Dusty

May 28, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

Talk about repetition,

Liberals are just like that song “lil sir echo” from Scouting days. We get the very same accusations over and over,(Tilman & Lynch) the very same questions (Why are we fighting in Iraq? Why don’t you enlist?), the same name calling (chickenhawk, cowards, ilk) and more (You aint been in the “right”service or you aint been in at all!!) Then our cutie country ignoramus displaying his err.. comic “lack” and getalife repeating the same post on all AJC blogs. What a crowd..ho hum

Since all of these items have been discussed over and over, I shall now depart to the cemetery to see if the flags have been place on the graves of so many of my family.

My appreciation to all who serve, who have served and those who rest in peace in their sacrifice to this country. I do not forget you on this special day.

By getalife

May 28, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

I do it just for you dusty.

Just for you.

Do you think if there was a dem in the WH doing the same as w, he or she would be impeached by now?

Of course.

Geez.

By carter

May 28, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

All of these clowns who buy into that moveon .org dung or Sean Penn or Rosie are simply moronic Koolade swillers, and will follow the pied piper right over the edge.

By The Truth Hurts

May 28, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Dusty, you get the same accusations (Tillman, Lynch) because you and your kind will not admit anything was done wrong.

And, yes, you will always be asked “Why are we fighting in Iraq?” when Iraq had nothing to do with 911, no matter how hard you and the President’s administration wants us to believe so.

And, no, your side never calls names, do they? That’s just the left that calls names. Right?

So you’re on your way to the cemetary, huh? Somehow, I don’t believe you Dusty. Probably sitting on your lazy a?? wathching FOX news today, shaking your head in agreement with everything you here.

I’ll let you go now so you can catch the last 14 minutes of Rush.

By Dennis

May 28, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

By Dusty May 28, 2007 1:49 PM “Talk about repetition…We get the very same accusations over and over,(Tilman & Lynch).”

And those “accusations” are?

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By catlady

May 28, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

Those of you who are supporters of the war: go on and volunteer and go over there, or send your son in your place. I promise I will not mention your name if you pay the ultimate sacrifice. We will just forget your widow and children, and we won’t allow anyone to photograph your coffin. Oh, wait, we already do that, don’t we? And if you are lucky enough to be merely wounded, we won’t worry much about getting you what you need to get well. Oh, yeah, we do that, too.

Wait, why isn’t there a rush on the enlistment offices?

It is always easier to talk than to think and act.

By Craig

May 28, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

The New York Times today has an article about members of the Iraqi army - people we have trained - killing our soldiers. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/28/world/middleeast/28delta.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Only George Bush - with the slavish support of people like Wooten and Dusty - has managed to train our enemies to kill our own soldiers.

By GodHatesTrash

May 28, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

Let’s face it, the military lied about Tillman and Lynch because they thought if they embellished their stories, morons like Dusty, et. al. would think that their deaths and injuries somehow made for a better story.

At least Tillman died in Afghanistan, chasing bin Laden and the Taliban. God only knows what Jessica Lynch suffered permanent injury for.

By Captain Freedom

May 28, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

The Capatain wishes to note that he has not posted in well over a week, yet Dusty, she of the barren and dessicated nether bits, cannot help from mentioning me in her post of 11:18 a.m.

The Captain recognizes an unhealthy obsession when he sees it.

By Outsource Wooten's Column to India

May 28, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

Crikey. Is it possible that Wooten has stumbled onto a decent idea about something while he plays out the clock on his dwindling career, waiting patiently for the pink slip that bears his name?

But a slight alteration is necessary. Rather than protecting the names of W’s victims, let’s protect the name of Ronald Reagan, and pass a law that prohibits the current crop of Repub pres candidates from repeatedly sodomizing the Great Communicator’s corpse to prove how much they love old St Ron.

By Midori

May 28, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

I like my idea better, Outsource: dig Reagan up and make him the GOP frontrunner.

I mean, what difference would it make?

a corpse is a corpse is a corpse.

By Dusty

May 28, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

I’m back. Got the flag turned so it would blow a little bit at the cemetery. Felt good about those who served, my family and others.

Let’s see. Truth Hurts and Dennis,

Tilman sacrificed much and then volunteered for the military. He then sacrificed his life in the far mountains of Afghanistan. The military finally got the details correct in saying that Tilman was a heroic man. Do you dispute that?

As to Lynch, she was rescued from an Iraqi hospital by a military team who did not know what they would encounter. A photographer took pictures just as most war time photographers do. If you don’t like it, don’t look at ‘em.

Captain Freedom,

To have an obsession, one must admire the target. That rules out any second thoughts on you as you are a phony.

Craig,

Our military trains thousands of Iraqis. Only a liberal would find ONE and blame a misfit on the efforts of our troops. Remember, Craig, you are supposed to support the USA.

Catlady,

Your true colors emerge. Go enlist yourself and tell the military how to run things. Surely you will be a General in no time as you like to give orders.

getalife,

You sound as silly as Outsource to India. You wouldn’t use more than one ID would you? Maybe we can outsource YOU to India.

But smile, poor miserable liberals, the Braves won today. A little applause please. Also, a big hand for our American military, the greatest force in the world. They are the best!

By Jackie

May 28, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this

Those comrades of mine who died in the Viet Nam war have their names on the wall in Washington, DC, paid for by the taxpayers. Is there a difference?

By Marty

May 28, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this

Al Quada has told you their goals. They are taking over France, why do you think France is not paying Muslims to go home now? Their goal to to have an Islamic world according to the Quran. Don’t trust me, go to the library and read a Quran. They kill those who views are different than them. Women are servants of the man. I didn’t make this crap up. Women are beaten daily for wearing the wrong clothing in Iran, especially if their hair isn’t covered and show too much skin. They have religious police that will beat or imprison you if you don’t pray when they tell you. They stoned to a 14 year old girl. They kill gays, regardless of what you say, the US has discriminations laws. The ACLU members would be in jail and executed. Quit reading ABC,NBC and CBS news. They are lying about the threat. They kill converts to other religions and they kill Atheist.

GodHatesTrash, God hates anger like yourself.

By Marty

May 28, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this

Oh I ment France is paying Muslims to return home. Don’t beleive me click on the link

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,484716,00.html

By SharonH

May 28, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

Jim, I don’t blame you for being angry. Everyone knows that The Troops belong to the right wingnuts and exploiting them is their exclusive domain. Now those pinko liberals want to horn in on your turf, well this has got to be stopped!

By Will Jones

May 29, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

Bush did 9-11. His treason and false war has stolen the lives of thousands of his betters. Read “The New Pearl Harbor,” or watch “Loose Change” on Google Video if you’re not a braindead fascist backer of the draft-dodging, closet-queen cheated into the White House by the Roman Catholic bloc of the Supreme Court.

By DAWGMA

May 29, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

By Will Jones

May 29, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

Bush did 9-11.

Good Morning Will. You’re an idiot.

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