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DEL.ICIO.USTalk of minor spending cuts provokes wails
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The Georgia legislative debate over PeachCare, and the congressional debate over whether to nearly quadruple spending for programs like it, demonstrate the profound difficulty fiscal conservatives have in containing government’s spending and growth.
Ronald Reagan was right. And those in Georgia who advocate a constitutional lid on spending are right, too. Without controls and without tax cuts, politicians will never have the discipline to contain spending.
In Georgia, the Senate has passed a proposed constitutional amendment that would limit spending to population growth plus the rate of inflation, with considerable built-in flexibility. A similar resolution is pending in the House. It’s offered by Reps. Tom Graves (R-Ranger), Martin Scott (R-Rossville), John Lunsford (R-McDonough), Mike Coan (R-Lawrenceville), Jeff Lewis (R-White) and others. In Congress, where tax cuts once represented a limited check on government’s growth, Democrats have embraced a $2.9 trillion budget blueprint. It increases domestic spending by $23 billion, but projects a surplus by 2012. How? By assuming that the Bush tax cuts on income, dividends and capital gains will expire in 2011.
In Georgia, unless spending caps are in the state constitution, no containment is possible. The PeachCare debate, and the way Georgia dealt with a newly created program that had spent out of control, is illustrative of how difficult it is to make even minor spending adjustments.
PeachCare is not an entitlement. It was created by Congress in 1996 to cover uninsured children in families too well off for Medicaid.
States are reasonably free to decide who should be covered. Georgia is one of 15 states with the most generous eligibility standards, providing subsidized coverage for a family of three with income of up to $40,349 in 2007. Most states — 26 in 2006 — cut off eligibility at twice the federal poverty level, or $34,340. Nine states are lower. Most states, including Georgia, subtract some earnings and expenses from total income to determine eligibility.
Georgia, like Florida, North Carolina and most other Southeastern states, started by setting eligibility at up to twice the federal poverty level. But in 2000, with money flowing, eligibility was raised to 235 percent.
The program is now up for renewal in Congress. In the first 10 years, the feds spent $40 billion on a roughly 70-30 federal-state basis. In the renewal, Democrats are proposing $75 billion over five years, more than double the administration’s request.
This session’s effort to deal with the impending shortfall in PeachCare, and to deal squarely with taxpayers, tells Georgians a great deal about what we can expect here from the party of Reagan. Gov. Sonny Perdue made an impassioned appeal to Congress for more money, though Congress responded by including it in legislation tied to a withdrawal date from Iraq, which the President vetoed.
In the House, Speaker Glenn Richardson (R-Hiram) put forth a bill to deal with the problem longer term. It would have brought eligibility back to 200 percent but grandfather in children already covered, and allowed the board of the Department of Community Health to make adjustments between 185 and 225 percent. It would, too, have required beneficiaries to make small payments for vision and dental coverage. Nothing outlandish.
“This is one small step, one small step, toward reining in a good program and keeping this for the poorest of the poor,” Richardson said.
When all of the proposed changes were factored in, the savings to taxpayers amounted to a projected $2.1 million. Million, not billion. For this, opponents predicted Armageddon.
In the Senate, however, eligibility was expanded to 250 percent of the federal poverty level, with a requirement that they pay premiums of 1.5 percent of household income. Premiums now range up to 1.7. While it may have been intended to be break-even, financial analysis done after the session revealed that the cost to Georgia taxpayers for included provisions would increase by $67,612,086.
So the cost of a program that is less than 10 years old, that’s not an entitlement, that has been drawn little or no analysis of how it works, comes up for examination. One problem, three solutions, and a dire prediction that the sky will fall. Not a promising start that the new bunch will be any more successful in containing the growth of government than the old.
• Jim Wooten is the associate editorial page editor. His column appears Sundays, Tuesdays and Fridays.
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By getalife
May 19, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this
Just say you hate to help poor sick children Jim.
Geez.
By getalife
May 19, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this
“Last week, George Bush said:
We can debate Iraq — and should. There should be no debate about making sure that money gets there on a timely basis so our kids can do the job we’ve asked them to do.
And today:
Eight more American troops were killed in Iraq, seven of them on a single day, the US military said Saturday, amid raging violence and a desperate search for three captured soldiers.
The only debate we should be having is how to get our troops home. And George? They’re not your kids”
Geez.
By catlady
May 19, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this
Peachcare doesn’t seem to be for “poor, sick children”. It seems to be for middle class children whose parents choose to spend their money in other ways. Truly poor children have access to Medicaid. I think the current 235% level is rediculous! If it is going to be that, it should be open to ALL Georgia children, regardless of their parents’ income. After all, we ALL have other things to spend our money on.
In addition to lowering the cap to 200%, parents of children on Peachcare should be required to pay the monthly fee from birth, rather than giving six years of free care. In addition, parents using the emergency room, whatever the reason, should pay an additional out of pocket fee, say $50 for each visit. And dental and vision services, counseling, and “therapy” should carry more than token fees for use. Finally, in addition to verifying parental claims of income, parents who drop their employer-sponsored care should have to wait a year before being eligible for Peachcare. All these are conservative, responsibility-requiring measures that ALL parents must undertake when deciding to have children. This program, out of control now, is going to get worse by the moment unless Georgia legislators get a grip on it and narrow the target.
By Debt Hawk
May 19, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
First, Ronald Reagan was wrong (as well as the voters who supported him). Despite is efforts to reverse his fiscal mistakes, he accumulated so much debt in the 80’s that today, 18 years after he left office, we (including many who weren’t old enough to vote at the time) are still paying interest on much of that debt.
Second, Bush tax cuts and the Republicans in Congress (and the voters who supported them) made the decision to do away with the fiscal discipline of “pay as you go”. The combination of these decisions (as well has agricultural subsidies, Medicare prescription drug coverage, a misbegotten war and other factors) multiplied Reagan’s debt so that future generations will have to pay our bills.
We inherited a bounty from our grandparents, but we’re leaving our grandchildren with an enormous bill, primarily with payments that will benefit other countries – a bill that they’re likely to have to pass on to their children and their children’s children as well.
Well done, Republicans.
By Missy
May 19, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this
Like a child, Mr. Wooten loves the parent that gives him anything he asks for and hates the parent who says no because she (or he) has to pay off the other parent’s debts.
Bush and the Republican Congress spent money we didn’t have, Democrats have to raise revenue (only available via taxes) to pay the bills. Even after balancing the budget – it will take us decades to pay off the debts the Republicans accumulated just in the last six years (plus the exponentially growing interest on their debt). Still, Mr. Wooten cries about the Democrats raising taxes. Classic.
By Redneck Convert
May 19, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
I say cut out this Peach Care all together. Who cares whether Those People get sick and die? They vote librul anyway. And if we don’t pay for their dentist they won’t be able to eat as much from our tax money on welfare and such. Because they won’t have no teeth. Its time us good Republicans started looking out for ourself.
I want a few things too. Like NASCAR tickets and beer and chewing tobbaco. And 4-wheelers. But I won’t get them if the libruls keep taking our money to support Peach Care and librul programs like that.
So cut out Peach Care. I’m with Wooten. Let the poor people die off like God intended. Its a lot cheaper to bury one than to support one for years and years. I’m a compasshunate conservative, but enough is enough. Lets spend our state money on fishing and things good conservatives can enjoy. Like a good NASCAR museum.
By Carrie
May 19, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this
FYI, it’s cheaper to insure more children via PeachCare than to cover some via Medicaid. In fact, it would be cheaper for taxpayers if, like Vermont and other states have done, Georgia enacted a program available to all children. Why?
Insurance is a method to pool money so that it reduces the cost of medical expenses for all. The more who participate, the less it costs.
It’s cheaper for taxpayers to subsidize insurance than to pay the medical bills of children from low-income households through Medicaid.
Via programs like PeachCare, preventive coverage is provided, reducing medical costs for taxpayers significantly since we’re able to catch sickness before it advances to later (more expensive) stages.
PeachCare doesn’t have the overhead an insurance company has (advertising/marketing) making it more cost-efficient than private insurance.
These are reasons having to do with money. But, in my opinion, a civilized society has a moral obligation to make sure that all have access to quality medical care at all stages of sickness — especially the chilren (regardless of who their parents are or where they come from).
What did Jesus say again about how we treat the “least among us”?
By JJ
May 19, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this
The amendment to the state constitution that Wooten is advocating is a scam. Remember how “conservative” commentator, Thomas Sowell, recently suggested a “military coup” now that Democrats are in charge of Congress? Such a coup wouldn’t be necessary in Georgia if Wooten’s favorite “spending cap” amendment passes.
Under current law, spending bills originate in the state legislature (and the governor is welcome to veto it, subject to a possible override). If the amendment passes, our state legislature would have to get the governor’s permission to even vote on a spending bill that exceeds such spending caps. So, even if 100 percent of the people and 100 percent of the legislature want to increase spending for any reason (such as funding PeachCare, education, etcetera), they couldn’t do it without the the governor’s permission.
In other words, if Georgia approves this amendment, we’d be taking significant power out of the hands of us, via our representatives in the legislature, and handing it over to a single man (or woman).
I hope it doesn’t happen, but if it does, we’ll rue the day.
By BobbyH
May 19, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
Across America children by the millions are being denied the health care they need and deserve — and some are dying — because the U.S. has no coherent system of health coverage for children.
There’s a presidential election under way and one of the key issues should be how to provide comprehensive health coverage for all of the nation’s children, which would be the logical next step on the road to coverage for everyone.
That an American child could die because his mother couldn’t afford to have a diseased tooth extracted sounds like a horror story from some rural outpost in the Great Depression. It’s the kind of gruesomely tragic absurdity you’d expect from Faulkner. But these things are happening now.
Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program provide crucially important coverage, but the eligibility requirements can be daunting, budget constraints in many jurisdictions have led to tragic reductions in coverage, and millions of youngsters simply fall through the cracks in the system, receiving no coverage at all.
It is time for all that to end. American children should be guaranteed nothing less than comprehensive health coverage from birth through age 18. This can be achieved if an effort is mounted that is comparable to that which led to the first moon shot, or the Marshall Plan, or the postwar G.I. bill.
Keeping American children alive and healthy should be at least as important as any of those worthy projects.
By jbmlaw
May 19, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this
Good afternoon all. Perhaps Debt Hawk @ 2:11 is on to something, although his comments seemingly discuss national rather than state spending. How about a prohibition on all spending until all debt is paid? Furlough all state employees, pause all infrastructure improvements or defer all new projecs.
Obviously I write with a bit of overstatement, as did Debt Hawk, but we would obtain more responsible budgets from representatives who approached all spending with a fiscal “emergency” perspective. PeachCare is not an emergency need, it is merely a form of corporate welfare to Big Health.
By WootenDull
May 19, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this
{{{By catlady May 19, 2007 1:52 PM Peachcare doesn’t seem to be for “poor, sick children”.}}}
Lady, what al-Gitmo was doing is called demagoguing the issue, these sniveling Cowards are good at that, he doesn’t have insurance on his house either, when it washes away again, he’ll just whine about the president.
Speaking of demagogues:
{{{By BobbyH May 19, 2007 3:19 PM Across America children by the millions are being denied the health care they need and deserve — and some are dying}}}
If there really are children “dying” because of lack of government provided health care, it’s the parents fault. You can bring a sick child to any emergency room, they are required by law to treat the child, although you’ll have to wait for all the illegal aliens to clear out.
Geez.
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By K-Squared
May 19, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this
Responding to the post by jbmlaw, I don’t see any overstatements in Debt Hawk’s post at 2:11. To the contrary, he nailed it.
In addition, I believe Debt Hawk was justified in addressing the falsehood, put forth above by Jim Wooten, that the “borrow and spend” policies of national Republicans are somehow synonymous with “fiscal conservatism”.
By WootenDull
May 19, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this
{{{Climate change will be considered a joke in five years time, meteorologist Augie Auer told the annual meeting of Mid Canterbury Federated Farmers in Ashburton this week. Man’s contribution to the greenhouse gases was so small we couldn’t change the climate if we tried, he maintained.}}}
Hell, I’m laughing about it right now.
Another tax dollar scheme set in motion by the sniveling Coward liberals and their scare mongering, afraid of the weather, hahaha.
What a bunch of clowns.
Geez.
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By getalife
May 19, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
Andy ,
Jim has been bashing PeachCare like he is obsessed with this issue.
Just call em like I see em. It boils down to the gop position on welfare while they waste our money on crap like this.
Hypocritical, don’t ya think?
By Markus
May 19, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
Look! This is the hero of the sick left. Some mangy islamofascist wannabe at UC Irvine says that it’s the J-E-W-S behind all the islamic evil actions and terrorism around the world.
Yeah man, it was the JEWS that kidnapped and slaughtered those Israeli athletes in Munich in 1972 (great movie by Spielberg, BTW).
It was the JEWS that bombed the US embassy in Lebanon in 1983.
It was the JEWS that hijacked a cruise ship and tossed overboard a wheelchair-ridden American Jew in 1985.
It was the JEWS that bombed that Berlin night club in 1986.
It was the JEWS that blew up Pan Am 103 in 1988. It was the JEWS that bombed the WTC in 1993.
It was the JEWS that bombed the Khobar towers in 1995.
It was the JEWS that blew up the US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998.
It was the JEWS that bombed the USS Cole in 2000.
It was the JEWS that flew those hijacked airliners and spoke Arabic and slit throats prior to murdering nearly 3,000 people in 2001.
Yet, somehow, being on a college campus, this is NOT HATE SPEECH. We’ve got our priorities bass ackwards. Or at the very least, diseased liberals do.
By Billy
May 19, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
WootenDull reported, “Climate change will be considered a joke in five years time, meteorologist Augie Auer told the annual meeting of…”
If you have a heart condition, see a cardiologist, not a podiatrist. If you have a question about climate change, ask a climatologist, not a meteorologist. Big difference.
By WootenDull
May 19, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
{{{Former President Carter Blasts Bush’s Administration as ‘Worst in History’}}}
What a bitter, delusional, old failure:
“Apparently, Sunday mornings in Plains for former President Carter includes hurling reckless accusations at your fellow man,” said Amber Wilkerson, Republican National Committee spokeswoman. She said it was hard to take Carter seriously because he also “challenged Ronald Reagan’s strategy for the Cold War.”
I guess this stupid hick thinks that gas lines, 20% interest rates, hostages in Iran and Soviet Global Domination is the sh-it every American craves for.
Freaking liberals, geez.
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By Red Skull
May 19, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this
Well said Lickoballs!
By getalife
May 19, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this
President Carter is spot on.
Not to worry, the future will be much better in 08 with a complete landslide for the Dems.
Bill and Hillary Clinton back in the White House with peace and prosperity like it was in the good ole days.
We will get through w’s destruction and never vote gop again. Never again.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
That’s it! I’m tired of sitting on this blog posting these stupid texts all day. I’m going to take the advice of that Liberal ID poofer from this morning and I’m going to get out and enjoy life. If I’m lucky, I’ll bump into a couple of guys who might want to play house with me.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this
Funny how no diseased neoStalinist liberal demonRAT here is whining about Murthabat’s waste of money in his district on the lost drug war known as the National Drug Intelligence Center in Johnstown, PA. Which, by the by, has received CONSISTENT low efficiency and effective marks by federal review boards. I thought the old kook was going to have a coronary when challenged by a Republican.
Nope, Murthabat is a RAT, so that’s ok. No neoStalinist liberal demoncat has offered to shore up spending and waste. Therefore, any complaint by a diseased liberal on the deficit is null and void. Never mind of course low taxes really do chip away at it. Turn this economy over to the socialist liberal pigs and let’s see what kind of economy we roll in.
Idiots.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
Hey gitmo, want to play house with me? I’ll be the housewife and you can be the poolboy.
By Fun Facts
May 19, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
Credit card debt, less than $8 billion in 1968 (in current dollars), now exceeds $880 billion (according to the Federal Reserve Bank).
The consumer savings rate fell below zero percent in 2005 and has stayed there.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
ID queefer: you filthy LIAR demoncat. I haven’t posted in five hours, let you lie our your @ss like a good little communist puke liberal democrat from hell and say I’ve been here “all day.”
You disgusting liberal maggots can’t even LIE straight. Wicked snake from HELL. Walking and talking dead. That’s all you zombie punks are on the diseased left. Eff off.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this
NeoStalinist Demoncat ID jacker mad because I won’t let him screw me. Regsrdless of how long I’ve been here pig, I’ll never suck your c*ck again!
By WootenDull
May 19, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this
{{{The Democratic leaders, who say they will continue to push for an end to the war in Iraq, plan to draft a funding bill over the weekend and pass it by the end of next week, before Congress takes a weeklong Memorial Day break beginning May 28.}}}
Geez, a week off here, a week off there.
So much for the grindstone, is there anything that liberals said that has come true yet?
WTF?
These sniveling Cowards are going to set land speed records for being lame.
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By getalife
May 19, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this
‘Sicko’ Shows Michael Moore’s Maturity as a Filmmaker
OMG, Faux likes “Sicko”.
Geez, I wonder if wingnut wooten will watch and change his mind set on PeachCare.
Doubt it.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this
More fun facts:
US households eat out on average of 3 days a week.
US households have 2.2 cars on average.
US house average cost is $265,000 and 2,300 sf (vs. $135,000 in current dollars and 1,300 sf in 1968).
US households have on average 50 items never used.
All of this was unheard of in 1968. Now what’s the point of bringing up people’s debt again?
By Red Skull
May 19, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this
Lickoballs,
The democrats predicted that invading Iraq will result in useless loss of American lives and increased terrorism in Iraq. They were right about that loser!
By getalife
May 19, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
Actually, Speaker Pelosi did what she promised.
Andy is not use to that.
Remember what w and the gop promised?
The contract with America?
None of it came through but to be expected when you elect gop.
They just can’t come through or govern . Period.
Losers, pure and simple.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this
Well, well, well. Lookie here. Some scientists have reversed course on the fallacy of man-made global warming. You don’t say? Hell I could have told you we have ice ages every 10,000 years and we are in a warming trend as well as polar ice caps on Mars have been melting since at least 2003.
Bit by bit, piece by piece, we will eradicate the Alsorebot LIE of manmade global walarmism scaremongering and anti-capitalist neoLeninist liberal sicko propoganda. Go find a new religious cult, sickos.
By Van
May 19, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
What does two-tenths of a car look like?
By getalife
May 19, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
And they are sick freaks too
Geez.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this
“Actually, Speaker Pelosi did what she promised.”
[Sigh]… I get so tired of the blatant non-reality LIES by the diseased left. Wake TFU.
Nothing to see here.
Most ethical and fair Congress ever.
By Van
May 19, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this
Markus,
Fire up the SUV and cut down the trees! Yeeeeeehaw!!! Let’s keep on consuming and destroying the natural world so we can all live in a carbon-copy of Atlanta. God forbid people might want to leave a stand of trees untouched instead of build another subdivision or redundant strip mall.
By getalife
May 19, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
Come on, think people for your kids.
If you do not believe in global warming, there is peak oil and killing for oil.
Middle East countries making billions off of oil to support terrorism.
Wake up and think.
Its a win win for your kids.
Geez, its not all about you. You wingnuts are a selfish, arrogant, ignorant bunch.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this
I agree “Van.” Let’s just all move back into downtown ATL and use public transportation and live in 300 sf cubes like the Japanese and never take vacations and never go on recreational trips and never BBQ outdoors again and never hike again and never water ski again and never have outdoor swing sets and treehouses and backyard swimming pools and .. well, you get the point. Better yet, let’s all just live like we did in the Medieval times like the Taliban wants us to.
By TW
May 19, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this
SUPPORT THE TROOPS - KEEP THEM FROM BECOMING FREE LABOR FOR THE SICKEST GET RICH SCHEME IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this
Think indeed. 114 Billion barrels (yeah, that’s with a B) of oil that America can’t touch because diseased liberal enviroweenies are afraid a furry RAT might die in drilling.
Wanting to take control over one’s OWN life is being selfish, arrogant (And those jackasses sKerry and Sore are NOT arrogant?), and ignorant.
I’ll tell you communist wannabe liberal demonRAT dirtbags one good damned thing right now: I’d rather be “ignorant” and free than “smart” and enslaved to liberalism. Anything you buttpirates are for, I’m against, and vice versa.
Sickos.
By Genius of Markus
May 19, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this
I looked at Markus’ list of scientists who don’t believe in global warming. Not a climatologist in the bunch — an economist, engineer, astrophysicist, botanist, etcetera, but not a single climatologist.
Oops, let me clarify that a bit. There are two paleoclimatologists in the this list. A paleoclimatologists specializes in the study of climates during the age of dinosaurs. Interesting that Markus would give these guys credence given that Markus doesn’t believe in dinosaurs - only creation.
Like WootenDull, if Markus doesn’t like what the cardiologist tells him about his heart condition, he’ll go to a podiatrist for a second opinion. If he still doesn’t like the news, he’ll go to an economist, and on and on until he finds a “scientist” that tells him what he wants to hear.
By getalife
May 19, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this
Ahh, Mr. Murtha yelled at a wingnut. Whaa.
Quit ya whining losers.
By getalife
May 19, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this
macaca,
And that is why your are an idiot. You can’t accept being dead wrong.
“Stay the course” moron.
By WootenDull
May 19, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this
{{{By Empty Skull May 19, 2007 4:34 PM The democrats predicted that invading Iraq will result in useless loss of American lives and increased terrorism in Iraq.}}}
Then why do you reckon they voted for it, dullard?
Did they want wasted American lives?
Increased terrorism is a plus for you pinko liberals?
Geez, you sniveling Cowards got some explaining to do.
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By GodHatesTrash
May 19, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this
The most appropriate doctor for any ailment Markus would have would be a proctologist.
As-shole trash.
By Van
May 19, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this
You are right, Markus. A little bit of conservation and proper urban planning means that we have to completely abandon everything that is fun. You can’t get to a state park in a hybrid or other fuel-efficient vehicle. We can’t have homes that are made from environmentally-friendly materials or live in communities that are planned around responsible growth. The slightest act of conservation means that we raise the white flag of surrender and the terrorists win. Instead, let’s keep buying foreign oil and supporting the actual nations that breed and harbor the terrorists. That will show them.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this
Michael Moore’s new film is Cannes’s hottest ticket!
Yawn. The biggest gathering of collectivist neoMarxist liberal anti-American pigs from hell on the planet always happens at Cannes Flame Fest. A whopping 16% of Americans don’t have health insurance. Perhaps at least half of those CHOOSE to not have health insurance because they’d rather spend their money on cars, plasmas, booze, concert tickets, lottery tickets, prostitution, and God knows what else. Those Katrina “victims” and their spending patterns on those $2,000 debit cards gave a nice look into the world of the so-called poor in this nation with no health care plan.
Isn’t that just like sicko liberal socialists: Screw up what works perfectly well for 86% of Americans so others who make poor decisions can get their “free” health care. Just wait until people show up in the waiting room for an ingrown toenail because it’s “free.” You think we have waiting lines now? Wait until gubment takes over.
Idiots.
By getalife
May 19, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this
They already explained but Andy does not listen.
“Stay the course” Andy.
Many voted no and there were dead right.
It must suk to be dead wrong all the time.
Right Andy?
By Markus
May 19, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this
Hey Genius ID poofer:
Will this link make you feel better, you scared little liberal global walarmist scaremonger from hell?
Don’t be so “scared” of man-made global warming. It’s a lie by your sickassed left.
BTW f^ckstick, show me where I believe in creationism over evolution in ANY of my posts, you pathetic liberal scab filthy LIAR.
SICK of the lies by you leftist MAGGOTS.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this
Hey “Van”, the minute I see your beloved demonRATs start interfering with greedy developers at the state and local levels, I’ll be with you on that. Until that day comes, you have no dog in that fight any more than I do.
“Instead, let’s keep buying foreign oil and supporting the actual nations that breed and harbor the terrorists.”
By the way, exactly what part of 114 BILLION potential barrels of oil in the US do you not understand?
Finally, you can take your cute little hybrid to the Gay Pride festival for all I care. You will NOT be telling me what do drive and own, fascist.
By WootenDull
May 19, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this
How did Hillary vote, al-Gitmo?
Shouldn’t you be crawling in her as-s instead of Bush’s, seeing how she was so “smart” and knew what we were getting in to?
Geez.
{{{By Genius of Markus May 19, 2007 5:10 PM I looked at Markus’ list of scientists who don’t believe in global warming.}}}
So if we take the logic of the idiot liberal, who I guess needs an “expert” to tell her it’s cold outside in late May, then the only people we should listen to about the Iraq war would be the Commander in Chief and General Petroaus?
All the rest of you sniveling Cowards should just shut the F up, right?
Morons.
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By Markus
May 19, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this
“Climatologists” contributed to the overall forecast for a massive hurricane season in 2006.
Yet how many hurricanes did we have again last year?
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Yet these “experts” that our resident liberal ID scaredypoof global walarmist goon believes in should know how mankind is affecting the ENTIRE FREAKING PLANET, irrelevant of the FACT of solar activity ramping up during the past 100 years.
Sick liberal cultist “believers.” Hey, at least they FOUND a religion.
Idiots.
By Say What?
May 19, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this
Markus,
Just because a person has health insurance, doesn’t mean it works “perfectly well” for him or her.
For example, the president of my company recently announced that raises would be limited to 2 percent this year for all employees (himself exclused, no doubt) because of the rising cost of insurance premiums. In prior years, he gave us larger raises, but at the same time increased the percentage of our contribution to health insurance — thereby cancelling out the raises.
Another example, my brother went to an “out of network” provider for an operation because the hospital he selected specialized in his condition. This choice to be seen by a doctor that he was comfortable with cost him thousands extra, out of pocket.
Another example — I got sick (repeatedly) and was concerned that I was becoming dehydrated. I drove myself to an emergency room, they checked me in, plugged me into an IV, gave me a shot with anti-biotics and sent me home a few hours later. My out-of-pocket cost for this IV, antibiotic and a few hours of observation (taking my temp and blood pressure)? Over $3,000. Insurance picked up the rest.
Another example — Toyota recently chose to open a new plant in Canada instead of the U.S. One of the reasons they gave was because the cost of health care for Canadians was significantly lower than the cost of health care for Americans.
No sir — our health care system doesn’t work perfectly well — not by a long shot.
By WootenDull
May 19, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this
{{{Don’t take it from this conservative editorial page. Here’s Tina Rosenberg of the New York Times in the April 2004 article, “What the World Needs Now Is DDT.” As she explains: “No one concerned about the environmental damage of DDT set out to kill African children. But various factors, chiefly the persistence of DDT’s toxic image in the West and the disproportionate weight that American decisions carry worldwide, have conspired to make it essentially unavailable to most malarial nations.” Western aid officials find it hypocritical to fund DDT in Africa but not at home. Meanwhile, children die. As the NYT put it starkly: ” ‘Silent Spring’ is now killing African children because of its persistence in the public mind.”}}}
If the liberals are “right” with their scare notions, then I want to be wrong.
Geez.
How many children have to die before the liberal conscience will be appeased?
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By Van
May 19, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this
Markus,
Where in any of my posts did I identify myself as a democrat? You seemed pretty upset when someone accused you of believing in creationism over evolution. I am actually an independant.
I think you are just trying to pull people’s chains given your choice of words and use of faux profanity. I am not biting. If I thought you were being serious I would keep up this spirited debate. Even if you are serious, I don’t care. It is time to return to a productive life. Feel free to respond back with name calling and vitriole.
By getalife
May 19, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this
The macaca selfish, ignorant mind set is what we will have to overcome to wean off the oil addiction.
Change is constant in the real world but wingnuts do not care about the future for their kids.
I am seeing change whether they like it or not. Ethanol, wind power, solar power, plug in cars, 100 mpg vehicles, etc.. are the wave of the future and a great investment oppurtunity. Silicon Valley is going all out in this direction.
Remember the Internet boon, well there is an alternative boon. Invest wisely.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this
Say what:
“No sir — our health care system doesn’t work perfectly well — not by a long shot.”
Nobody said it was PERFECT, liberal. But, if you want to throw what we have out the window and turn it over to the freaking federal government so everyone can have “free” health care, you have OBVIOUSLY never taken a relative to the VA or had to deal with a military base hospital.
But, don’t address my other issue on those who CHOOSE to not have a health care plan because they won’t want to spend the money (different than those who CAN NOT spend the money because they do NOT HAVE IT).
By Markus
May 19, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this
Good grief. The solar flare link again and global warming. Debunk THAT one, scaredypants global walarmist fascist cultist Gorebots.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this
Good grief. The solar flare link again and global warming. Debunk THAT one, scaredypants global walarmist fascist cultist Gorebots.
By WootenDull
May 19, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this
And yet here’s Mr. Murray, killjoy-in-chief at the global warming love-fest. “Some elitists in our country can’t, or won’t, tell fact from fiction, can’t understand what a draconian climate change program will do [to] the dreams of millions of working Americans and those on fixed incomes,” says the chairman and CEO of Murray Energy, one of the largest private coal concerns in the country. He’s incensed by his fellow energy CEOs’ “shameless” goal of fattening their bottom lines at the “expense of the broader economy.” So these past months he’s emerged from his quiet Cleveland office and jumped on the national stage, calling out the rest of his industry’s CO2 collaborationists. He’s testified in front of Congress; become a regular on television and radio programs; sat for profiles by journalists; and written letters to other energy companies exhorting them to think of the broader consequences.
Uncovering the lies.
Speaking of which, al-Gore invented the internet, was the inspiration for the movie Love Story and sang the lullabye “Look for the Union Label” which wasn’t written until he was 27 years old, and we are going to trash the economy of the United States based on some hysterical claims of his?
Sounds like a plan you libs would come up with.
Cowards.
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By Markus
May 19, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this
“Ethanol, wind power, solar power, plug in cars, 100 mpg vehicles, etc..”
Then lead by examples Ahole liberal hypocrites. When Kennedy sticks a windmill in his yard I’ll pay attention. When John “neckbrace” Edwards drives a Prius, I’ll pay attention. When Ariana Muffington gives up riding in jets, I’ll pay attention.
Until then, anything you diseased monkeys on the sick left say about the lie of man-made global warming is a JOKE.
By Say What?
May 19, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this
Markus,
You wrote that our health care system works “perfectly well”. A few minutes later you write, “Nobody said it was perfect.”
You flip-flop more than any politician — but in your case, it only takes a few minutes.
Very strange.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this
“Van”:
If it walks like a donkey and talks like a donkey…
By Markus
May 19, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this
Yes, let’s invest in carbon credits.
Idiots.
By WootenDull
May 19, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this
{{{“The science of global warming is speculative. But there’s nothing speculative about the damage a C02 capture program will do to this country. I know the names of many of the thousands of people—American workers, their families—whose lives will be destroyed by what has become a deceitful and hysterical campaign, perpetrated by fear-mongers in our society and by corporate executives intent on their own profits or competitive advantage. I can’t stand by and watch.”}}}
An American Hero.
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By Markus
May 19, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this
Poofer:
“You wrote that our health care system works “perfectly well”. A few minutes later you write, “Nobody said it was perfect.””
You know, for someone who has read my posts all day, is THAT all you can nitpick about and challenge about? Weak. VERY weak. But you ARE a diseased liberal, so that goes without saying.
IN any event, a poll a while back said MOST Americans were HAPPY with their health care plans. They also said that they would like to see some IMPROVEMENTS in their plans.
Now I’m going through my archives and trying to find that link for you idiot liberals. So, you tell me, where is the discrepancy in that comment above, liberal?
I’m all ears.
By getalife
May 19, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this
You are all macaca.
Looks like the Brits have real reporters
Geez.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this
Gitmo, if you didn’t have the Muffingtonqueefpost and C&L wingnut links to look towards, you’d be totally lost on this blog. Not that you aren’t lost in space anyway.
Wingnut.
By Markus
May 19, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this
Look mommie! The sun activity coincides with the earth’s temperature fluctuations.
And these Jim Jones cultist global walarmist scaremonger fascist liberals want us to destroy the economy and live like cavemen for the LIE that mankind is the cause of warming trends.
Too bad these idiots can’t just drink laced Kool Aid and get their misery and guilt of life in this prosperous nation over with already. Need help fascist goons?
By WootenDull
May 20, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this
{{{The heartthrob has made a film, the 11th Hour, warning that human beings face extinction as a result of the environmental crisis. DiCaprio defended Gore from criticism over the amount of energy he has been reportedly using to jet around the world and to run his home. “Don’t shoot the messenger”, he said. “This person is trying to relay a message to the public and the way that he travels should not be splayed out like that.”}}}
If it means we lose Hollywood, then maybe extinction won’t be so bad.
Plus it will be better for the Earth, all those sniveling Cowards flying around in their private jets scolding the rest of us for cutting farts.
Pis-s off, Lenny.
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Director Michael Moore says the U.S. health care system is driven by greed in his new documentary “SiCKO”, “Why do we behave the way we behave? What has become of us? Where is our soul?”
It’s under that tenth or eleventh layer of your fat, Michael, geez.
Look at this sloven pig, food monster, stroke candidate, I’d be thinking about free health care too if I weighed close to a ton.
And what kind of morbid, despondent people would go see a two hour movie about government health care, geez, what kind of hollow empty life must this be?
Is this what socialists do for excitement?
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A leader that actually follows up on his election campaign promises:
{{{She was one of seven women President Nicolas Sarkozy, himself of Hungarian immigrant background, appointed to his 15-member Cabinet after taking office last week —- making good on a campaign promise of gender balance after decades in which women often played secondary roles or were outnumbered by men.}}}
Célébration!!
And for you American pinko®s:
Vacation!
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Look at this idiot Cynthia Tucker, showing her vast misguided ignorance:
{{{Welcome again to what should be a lively and stimulating debate about matters of religious faith…..This is an event for people that believe deeply as I do….. }}}
Now check this out, this is a debate on Religion between drunken sot Christopher Hitchens and some obscure Emory professor, moderated by our very own Queen Pinko®, sure it’s skewed against religion but do you think maybe the “moderator” could stay on the subject?:
{{{….that believe as deeply as I do about the First Amendment. It is an article of faith to me. While Americans speak about reverence for the Constitution and it’s bill of rights we frequently behave as if we don’t really respect those values, including those which support free speech.}}}
So here’s the moderator for a so called “Religious debate” getting orgasmic over free speech, what ever the hell it’s got to do with the subject of discussion. It’s sounds to me like Mother Lib has some preconceived notions, you reckon? These are always good for a moderator in honest debate to have.
Geez.
Allow me to make a point here, if you don’t believe in your Creator and you do believe that this somehow makes you better, why would you crusade against those who do believe? Is there some harm being done to you in people gathering on Sunday morning and worshipping the Risen Lord? Are your weak, science based beliefs being challenged by the Tenets of Christianity? Why are you unable to ignore the followers of Christ and just quietly go about your life drawing strength from your knowledge. Why would an alcoholic like Hitchens and a heretic like Tucker go babbling on and on about the faults and failings of the human being? Are they worried about something?
Speaking of which, let’s sum up the argument “in favor” of religion by this obscure Emory “professor:”
{{{Again I would like to emphasize that no doubt there are a lot of very naughty Christians…}}}}
Perhaps someday the “professor” should read the Bible, where it goes into great detail about sin and how all humans are sinners. He totally validates drunken sot Hitchens argument, which I’m sure is why heretic Tucker chose him, without even bothering to point out that human sin is completely against the teachings of God and His Son Jesus Christ.
I very seriously doubt that God looked upon the crusaders with pride and happiness while they raped and plundered, you know what I mean? Something tells me he had a few words with them later on.
Hitchens is too delusional to understand he is arguing correctly that there is not enough Faith in God and as a result there is more human failing in the world as a result of this.
If this alcoholic were truly concerned about stopping these “atrocities” by human beings, which is his whole argument against religion in spades, then how does he figure that less religion will solve the problem?
With no hope at all for Salvation, if you had no faith in life after death, wouldn’t this make things worse?
Why would anyone follow the “rules,” what would make us desire to be good, what “reward” would there be for righteousness?
I rule over you sniveling Coward liberals because God has blessed me with the ability to think clearly, to know that it is cold outside and “global warming” is a tax scam designed by elite liberals with their usual scare tactics. To know that what we are doing in Iraq is a force for good in the world and if we could come together as a nation behind this mission we would crush the hope of the enemy and this war would be over. And for the fact that this world was not an accident, not some random collision of matter, and it’s pretty simple to figure out.
How can you have a random collision of matter that had to be Created?
Geez.
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By Buy Danish
May 20, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this
{{{By Billy - May 19, 2007 4:06 PM
If you have a heart condition, see a cardiologist, not a podiatrist. If you have a question about climate change, ask a climatologist, not a meteorologist. Big difference.}}}
Meet Reid Bryson, “The Father of Climatology”:
“Climate’s always been changing and it’s been changing rapidly at various times, and so something was making it change in the past,” he told us in an interview this past winter. “Before there were enough people to make any difference at all, two million years ago, nobody was changing the climate, yet the climate was changing, okay?”//“All this argument is the temperature going up or not, it’s absurd,” Bryson continues. “Of course it’s going up. It has gone up since the early 1800s, before the Industrial Revolution, because we’re coming out of the Little Ice Age, not because we’re putting more carbon dioxide into the air.”/Little Ice Age? That’s what chased the Vikings out of Greenland after they’d farmed there for a few hundred years during the Mediaeval Warm Period, an earlier run of a few centuries when the planet was very likely warmer than it is now, without any help from industrial activity in making it that way. What’s called “proxy evidence”—assorted clues extrapolated from marine sediment cores, pollen specimens, and tree-ring data—helps reconstruct the climate in those times before instrumental temperature records existed.
Unlike the charlatan Goreacle, Bryson actually has scientific credentials:
Reid A. Bryson holds the 30th PhD in Meteorology granted in the history of American education. Emeritus Professor and founding chairman of the University of Wisconsin Department of Meteorology—now the Department of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences—in the 1970s he became the first director of what’s now the UW’s Gaylord Nelson Institute of Environmental Studies. He’s a member of the United Nations Global 500 Roll of Honor—created, the U.N. says, to recognize “outstanding achievements in the protection and improvement of the environment.” He has authored five books and more than 230 other publications and was identified by the British Institute of Geographers as the most frequently cited climatologist in the world.
Maybe if the Left didn’t waste so much energy and money promoting a fairy tale we’d be able to deal with health care issues like Peach Care.
And the War on Terror.
Have a glorious day everyone!
By @@
May 20, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
Alright, I think I’ve got a bead on what you liberals look like on the other side of this cyber boob tube.
How do I know it’s you liberals?
The boxed brain…ready for takeout.
The countless holes in your head where your arguments drip from supports my theory.
Yup!!!! THAT’S YOU LIBERALS.
By @@
May 20, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
Make that from where your arguments drip, then…
have a great day!!!
By Buzz
May 20, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
Republicans have accused Waxman of partisan pettiness, to which he responded that during the Clinton administration Republicans issued more than 1,000 subpoenas. “They were the ones who politicized oversight,” he said in an interview. “When Clinton was president, there wasn’t an accusation too small for them to rush out and hold hearings. When Bush became president, there wasn’t a scandal too large for them to ignore.”
By LuvMyGreed
May 20, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this
More on those darn Bleeding Heart Liberals:
How did so many American people allow themselves to be shamed by the label “bleeding heart Liberal?” That, of course, was the original Republican label for anybody who disagreed with their policies of war and greed. “Ignore the ‘bleeding heart Liberals’ protesting against our war,” Republicans liked to say, “and forget about those other ‘bleeding heart Liberals’ demanding food for the poor. They’re just a bunch of anti-American, Commie-loving ‘bleeding heart Liberals!”
By kill a leftist queer for Jesus
May 20, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this
I see the psychotic homo obsessed id stealer is still shamelessly puking up its homo filth on here. What an utterly braindead, complete waste of a life … obsessively stalking conservatives on a weekend blog.
THE SENILE DEMENTED SURRENDER MONKEY JIMBO KARTER needs to be put into permanent secure care for badly bewildered treasonous hypocritical pinkos. Karter is easily the worst ever president. This worthless senile old bastard fawns over US hating commie thugs like Chavez and Castro like an energiser arselicker. Back in the much more level headed, depise ALL commies days of WW II the likes of Karter would have been quietly hanged for treason.
By alan
May 20, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this
How did so many American people allow themselves to be shamed by the label “bleeding heart Liberal?” That, of course, was the original Republican label for anybody who disagreed with their policies of war and greed. “Ignore the ‘bleeding heart Liberals’ protesting against our war,” Republicans liked to say, “and forget about those other ‘bleeding heart Liberals’ demanding food for the poor. They’re just a bunch of anti-American, Commie-loving ‘bleeding heart Liberals!’ ”
The ‘bleeding heart Liberal’ - the person who hoped to stop nonsensical wars being perpetrated for no reason other than creating safe new markets for corporations to either sell their product in, or to enslave the population so that they could sew cheap clothing designed only to increase profits and CEO annual salaries. The ‘bleeding heart Liberal’ was the person who hoped to end global poverty and feed hungry Americans. The ‘bleeding heart Liberal’ who had warned of global warming long before it became fashionable and even before EXXON and other corporations began paying propagandists to refute its existence. The ‘bleeding heart Liberal’ was the person who fought to protect drinking water, rivers, lakes, and wetlands from unnecessary corporate pollution. The ‘bleeding heart Liberal’ was the person who fought for living wages, vacation time, and medical benefits for America’s workers. The ‘bleeding heart Liberal’ was the person who fought for programs to feed the elderly and ensure, after retirement, that they had affordable healthcare.
Indeed, the ‘bleeding heart Liberal’ was the extremist Republican movement’s original ‘evil-doer’.
And every American that actually tried to make the world and his or her country a better place for all “God’s children”, as Martin Luther King JR had so eloquently said; eventually those Americans bought into the extremist Republican’s perversions and came to view themselves as being somehow “un-American” and ashamed for daring to care about someone and something other than themselves. Nearly every American who believed in something greater than themselves came to surrender their very real and Christ-like morality and instead, latched onto the radicalized and extremist Republican Party’s perverted and greed-based “Christian” morality of hate and intolerance.
Perhaps, most worrisome in America today, isn’t that Mister Bush and the radicalized and extremist Republican Party have nearly completely undermined and destroyed the U.S. Constitution and democracy; what is most disconcerting is that Americans have lost their humanity. We don’t care that our government started a war based on lies…and we seem to care even less that those lies have resulted in the needless slaughter of 650,000 Iraqi people. We don’t seem to care that our children are being massacred by our children with guns that could easily be controlled and kept out of the hands of maniacs. We don’t seem to care that our children’s education is being neglected, so that we can build bigger and better bombs.
At this very moment more than 45 million Americans are without healthcare. Why? So that some corporation can have enough money to build the next generation killing machine…and Americans don’t care! Children, American children, are going to bed hungry and living in rundown and dangerous neighborhoods so that EXXON and other corporations can enjoy massive tax-breaks that they can use to pay their CEOs $400 million salaries, and we don’t care. America’s infrastructure was crumbling, while Republicans provided massive tax-cuts to Bill Gates and other billionaires…and Americans didn’t care. Genocide wracks Darfur and ethnic cleansing sweeps around the globe as a solution to peoples’ problems and we don’t care. Government officials use their power and position to enrich their friends, while other American citizens do without and we don’t care.
The so-called bleeding heart Liberal was shamed into near extinction by thugs and snake oil salesmen, so they could clear the way for an America without humanity. Feeling terrible for ever having dared to care, the ‘bleeding heart Liberal’ surrendered without so much as a fight. That’s too bad really, because there was a time ‘bleeding heart Liberals’ were willing to fight for what was right. What could be more right than America’s humanity?
By DogEatDogDull
May 20, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this
I’m a gay conservative she/male, and I support the dog eat dog world of social Darwinism favored by My Absolute Hero, George Dumbya Bush.
I have never actually eaten dog, although I have philated them many times. I actually prefer fish, especially trouser trout.
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By @@
May 20, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this
alan:
I’m a compassionate conservative. There’s no shame in caring, the shame in the liberals’ way of caring is that it rarely accomplishes anything that is endures the test of time. Too many words and not enough action. Government invervention IS NOT the answer.
BTW, nice cut & paste.
Off to church where we actually DO reach out to the community in ways that can can help.
By libs destroy America
May 20, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
There should be a ban on any pinko commie lib who posts commie propoganda under the guise of the word progressive.
Pinko libs use the phrase progressive to mask their true intentions of equalizing things out by taking away what you worked so hard to obtain.
The Pinks don’t see it as stealing from you. They see it as doing God’s work, which is the only time you’ll see the commie Pinko liberals make reference of God.
Commie Pinks will call you selfish and greedy if you do not allow them to come into your home and sort through your checkbook drawer and wallet to take and plunder as they please through quasi socialistic government measures.
No, commie Pinkos think they are doing right, but as always, they are not. Stealing for one’s own selfish agenda is not doing good. It’s evil. Pinko commie liberals are evil.
By WootenDull
May 20, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
Falwell was GOP’s prophet of intolerance By Cynthia Tucker The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 05/20/07- The Grand Old Party is now hostage to a group of flat-earthers who deny evolution, mock gays
Queen Pinko®, lying her as-s off, as usual, love the sin hate the sinner, huh, Cynthia?:
{{{By DogEatDogDull May 20, 2007 10:45 AM I’m a gay conservative she/male}}}
10:45 is you, you sniveling Coward gay mockers, own it.
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By alan
May 20, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this
to: By @@ May 20, 2007 10:45 AM
Yeah - good idea, go feel all good and smug about yourself - conservative trash.
By TW
May 20, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
Just wanted to take a moment to thank the ajc for putting Republican Saxby Chambliss into play yesterday…let all members of the Bush knee-pad brigade be held accountable for the abortion that was the 109th congress…
By getalife
May 20, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
In one of the most troubling trends, U.S. officials said that Al Qaeda’s command base in Pakistan is increasingly being funded by cash coming out of Iraq, where the terrorist network’s operatives are raising substantial sums from donations to the anti-American insurgency as well as kidnappings of wealthy Iraqis and other criminal activity.
Well, at least the CIA is looking for them.
Geez.
By DogEatDogDull
May 20, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
DogEatDogDull is me, Andi/e.
A poof for Bush.
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By getalife
May 20, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
Fartwell is burning in hell which the wooten wingnts will follow. †
By libs destroy America
May 20, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this
That 11:48AM entry by getalife, who really needs to, is the zinger of the day. Pinko commie libs are the most ungodly of all human beings when pretending to be believers in God. Lucifer also believes in God, but he also doesn’t worship Him. Rot in hell, ungodly pinko commie liberal children.
By JohnD
May 20, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
alan is the perfect example of all that is wrong with American social/political discourse.
Cut and paste, name-calling, no solution just accusatory, create turmoil with no goal and then sit at a computer and blame every problem on those he/she/it dislikes.
There are no actual conservatives or liberals in Congress, just power hungry politicians who sell their souls for votes and, like Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, line their pockets along the way.
Wake up and see that the tone of alan’s post is just what the politicians are seeking - divisiveness.
By libs destroy neo-cons
May 20, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this
are you idiots kidding yourselves? falwell was one of the biggest pieces of charlatan trash to ever come down the pike. he was the poster child of your u.s. taliban movement and was a repulsive simpleton and an absolutely terrible american. it was the likes of him and his political stooges that got us attacked (grin). good riddance.
By alanb4@aol.com
May 20, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
Re: By JohnD May 20, 2007 12:07 PM
And what about your post bucko? Do you consider yourself to be what is “right” with all this “social/political discourse”?
The repbulicans have gotten exaclty what they deserved/wanted. W. had the perfect opportunity afer 911 to bring this country together, but he chose not to do that.
So go ahead JD - opine more since you think you have all the answers…..
By libs destroy neo-cons
May 20, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
so carter thinks that the immoral idiot prez is the worst ever. and this is news worthy? hundreds of millions of other people feel the same way. who here thinks this cloWn has been the best ever? no one? ok, how about in the top 95%? any one? this loser government needs to reach some hard benchmarks and now. if not impeach.
By Van
May 20, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this
I thought they shut down the ability to post responses for this installment of the Wooten column. Strange.
By getalife
May 20, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this
Watching the history channel on Hitler, you can argue that the radical right are just like the radical right in Germany during the Hitler takeover.
Except Muslims are the new Jews.
Of course, these wingnuts have finally seen the light and are turning on w.
Why? Iraq occupation, lies, theft, fraud, genocide, total incompetence, destruction of our country? Certainly not.
Immigration.
Amazing but at least they have seen the light. So, add the illegal immigrants to the gay, Muslim, liberals, etc… hate list.
Geez.
By getalife
May 20, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this
Then you could argue that the nazi like wingnuts were looking for a reason to squirm out of the love of their Hitler and use immigration to do it.
It does not matter and I can say is:
We told you so!
So now, instead of debating with wingnuts, fiercly apologizing for their Hitler, we may want to debate solutions (JohnD) to all the destruction he has caused to our country.
Impeachment would be a great start, don’t ya think?
By Van
May 20, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
I have come to the conclusion that neither party has all the answers. I think for America and democracy to evolve we are going to have to move past the two-party system and show respect for each other despite or differences. Idealistic? Yes. Naďve? Perhaps. However, after reading some of the posts to this column some people need to throttle back their anger and show some decency towards others. If you are that devoted to your party that you cannot see past red or blue, liberal or conservative, then chances are you are probably wrong about a great many things. I will resort to the cliché that the truth always rests somewhere in the middle.
By @@
May 20, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
By alan @ 10:29:
That’s too bad really, because there was a time ‘bleeding heart Liberals’ were willing to fight for what was right. What could be more right than America’s humanity?
Dang alan…I said nice cut & paste. I just thought the right thing to do would have been to give credit where it was due rather than mislead everyone here into thinking it was your efforts.
Thanks for your liberal caring response at 11:01 though.
By alan @ 11:01:
Yeah - good idea, go feel all good and smug about yourself - conservative trash.
Would you like to know what we plan on accomplishing with our VBS program starting in June?
It has to do with clean drinking water in Africa…
Naaaahhhh, you’re probably too busy “talking the talk”.
By Dennis
May 20, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this
Well, we have here the usual attempt of Mr. Wooten to obfuscate; “Ronald Reagan was right. And those in Georgia who advocate a constitutional lid on spending are right, too. Without controls and without tax cuts, politicians will never have the discipline to contain spending.”
If congress attempts to put a lid on war spending in Iraq, Mr. Wooten uses his column to cry how unfair to Bush it is.
But I’ll bet he wouldn’t support a lid on federal spending of any sort without a provision for tax cuts.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By WootenDull
May 20, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this
{{{By getalife May 20, 2007 1:03 PM Watching the history channel on Hitler, you can argue that the radical right are just like the radical right in Germany during the Hitler takeover. Except Muslims are the new Jews.}}}
al-Gitmo: You know, most of the time when I catch someone saying something as totally ignorant and f’ed up as you did at 1:03, I’d usually take the time to tear their as-s up.
But I’m taking into account your illicit drug use and total lack of gonads and I’m going to cut you some slack, this time only.
Hitler invaded the country of his “enemies,” lined up all the defenseless innocent women, children and elderly and shot them to death or literally stuffed them into gas chambers.
If you are suggesting or even truly believing that the United States is engaged in any behavior of that sort, you need to be stomped on.
That ain’t no sh-it.
Go ahead and say it mofo, tell me that Al Qaeda is the Moral authority in this fight and that we are the ones blowing up innocent women and children, you POS.
GFY.
By getalife
May 20, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this
And of course Andy will defend his radical right Hitler to the bitter end.
BTW, Hitler had Jewish ancestors.
I will not debate your insanity Andy.
You are alone in your love of the worst American in history. Your friends are jumping ship late but at least they are.
By getalife
May 20, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this
I did read something good today about the surge.
There are a surge of CIA agents tracking Al Queda in Pakistan.
This is a very good thing to stop the next attack.
By @@
May 20, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
Getalife:
After you answer WootenDull’s question, I thought you may want to look at “immigration” then and now.
The whole immigration fiasco began a long time ago out of a desire to be “politically correct”. It backfired. Those damned “unintended consequences” I keep pointing out.
To be perfectly honest with you, I’m not thrilled with the bill, but the problem has become so devastating to our national security and sovereignty, I’m glad it is being addressed with urgency.
There’s a petition circulated by U.S. citizens that encourages the very actions that the bill is promoting.
It’s a mess….and, of course I’d like to blame it on Ted Kennedy (D), but then my opinion of Teddy has always been a bad one.
Also Getalife, the CIA is “covert”, there has always been a covert war going on behind the scenes in Pakistan. There’s one going on in Iran too.
Off to the pool.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
“Except Muslims are the new Jews.”
So now nazis (ie: we Republicans) want to exterminate Muslims instead of Jews. Funny how it’s Muslims that actually want to KILL Jews, ain’t it? Funny how Muslims like ACHKmadinejad deny the Holocaust happened. Funny how the nazis originated as state control freak “worker” socialists, just like liberals. Funny how @sshole liberal demonRATs always crap themselves over *IT’S THE JEWS! J-E-W-S JEWS! at every turn. Yet, Republicans are the supposed nazis. LMAO. The disease of liberalism is getting more delusional and hysterical every day.
But alas, we can’t really help that those who want to dominate the world and kill all “infidels” with one religion under Sharia law just happen to be of Islamic faith. (Contrary to sickassed liberals who hide under their beds for the LIE of man-made global warming, the REAL threat is global islamic fascism).
I thank Mr. Wooten for having this blog and showing others how F’d in the head our sick liberal demoncats from hell really are. It’s always nice to know what side the enemy within is for.
With regards to what sicko liberal demoncats from hell think here about Conservatives, I couldn’t give a three flush sh!t. What those serpents from hell think means nothing. Worthless. Meaningless. Dead air. Rotten to the core. Walking dead.
Zombies.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this
Nanny Pelosivich on Steppedonanoctopus:
“I don’t know what he [Murthabat] did. I have no idea what actually happened.”
That was The Nanny’s response when questioned by Sir Georgeocrat about Republicans who are going after Murthabat and charging him with threatening to deny additional funding in the future (as Georgeocrat said, a “clear violation of House rules”).
Well you had DAMN WELL BETTER know what the hell your henchmen of diseased neoStalinist liberal hinchmen are up to Nanny.
Those jackals haven’t even been in power half a year yet and already they are working their way into being the shortest victory party in history.
Payback. It’s a coming. They’ll do it to themselves.
By WootenDull
May 20, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
No one asked for a debate, al-Gitmo, I told you to go FY, are you having some comprehension issues this afternoon?
I don’t love Bush either but since I have a choice, I’m picking him over the Surrender Sisters Reid and Pelosi, these tough times call for the leadership of a man, not a sniveling duet of Cowards.
You libs may think that the way to solve your issues with government is by flying a fully loaded jet liner into an office building, but that’s not me.
I’m on the side that doesn’t indiscriminately kill, that risks their lives to save the lives of others, that asks only for a place to bury their dead.
You can keep your side, you and Al Qaeda, whining about not getting this from the United States and not getting that from the United States and blowing yourselves up when you don’t get it.
Two peas in a pod.
You know what I mean?
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By getalife
May 20, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
@@,
It was amnesty under Reagen and its amnesty under w.
Nothing has changed except the explosion of illegal immigration with our border wide open.
History repeating itself again. Our government never learns from their mistakes. First you to admit a mistake to change it.
“Stay the course”.
Geez.
By WootenDull
May 20, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this
{{{Murtha is a 35-year House veteran who leads the House Appropriations subcommittee on military spending. He is known for a fondness for earmarks - carefully targeted spending items placed in appropriations bills to benefit a specific lawmaker or favored constituent group.}}}
Sounds like he’s getting his and ain’t afraid to say so.
And here I thought that stuff was against the rules.
Geez.
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By getalife
May 20, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this
Hey Andy,
The purpose of a blog is to debate you freaking idiot.
Surrending Iraq to the Iraqis?
I guess you are a Nazi with your occupation agenda to stay there forever.
Sieg Heil loser.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
Oh SHADAAAAP Karter. Nobody cares what your old dried up senile sorry self has to say except America’s enemies and the ignorant. Your Middle East plan was so flawless that terrorism and Israeli-Palestinian conflicts disappeared, wasn’t it? We had nothing but peace and prosperity and absolutely GLOBAL peace and no islamofascist terror attacks until “King George” (he was ELECTED @ssholes, GET OVER IT) and RATs that voted with him invaded Iraq.
These sickos on the diseased cage monkey left have completely lost it.
Zombies.
By WootenDull
May 20, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this
{{{By getalife May 20, 2007 2:14 PM I will not debate your insanity Andy.}}}
{{{By getalife May 20, 2007 2:48 PM The purpose of a blog is to debate you freaking idiot.}}}
Come on, al-Gitmo, get your nose off the mirror, you’ve overdosed man.
So now you believe that Iran and all the foreign Al Qaeda loonies are in Iraq for the pure pleasure of getting wasted by the U.S. 3rd Infantry Division, that they have no schemes on religious rule even though they’ve told us just that?
Geez.
Is this what the Surrender Sisters Reid and Pelosi believe too? Or is this nonsense coming from Kos?
It’s a good thing that Bush is in charge and not you cripples.
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By Van
May 20, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this
I have come to the conclusion that neither party has all the answers. I think for America and democracy to evolve we are going to have to move past the two-party system and show respect for each other despite or differences. Idealistic? Yes. Naďve? Perhaps. However, after reading some of the posts to this column some people need to throttle back their anger and show some decency towards others. If you are so devoted to your ideology that you cannot see past red or blue, liberal or conservative, then chances are you are probably wrong about a great many things. I will resort to the cliché that the truth always rests somewhere in the middle.
By WootenDull
May 20, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this
Speaking of indiscriminate killings:
{{{A former U.S. attorney, Mr. McNulty has spent 20 years in unblemished service and only became deputy attorney general a short time ago clearly believing it would result in a lifetime judicial appointment. He won’t be the first to get caught in the political meat grinder just among the more innocent.}}}
Looks like the witch hunt has some collateral damage.
Geez, the libs war on something that doesn’t even exist and flee from real living enemies like Al Qaeda.
Sick.
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By Markus
May 20, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
Here’s a great photopage to a gathering of some true Patriots. Also, check out the diseased liberal protesters b!tching about Gitmo. (Will someone please tell these liberal numbnuts who would stick their necks out, literally, for terrorism that ENEMY COMBATANTS are NOT granted US Constitutional rights?)
By Midori
May 20, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
The French have a new president, the British will soon have a new PM, and we envy them as we endure the endless wait for this small, dim man to go back to Texas and resume his life. His party is coming to see that it must figure out how to tell the truth about him if it is to compete in 2008, but so far nobody has stepped forward and wound up to throw the pie. Their clock is stuck in the fall of 2001. They are sleepwalking toward the precipice.
and that, ladies and gentlemen, is “it” in a nutshell.
By Let's Face It
May 20, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this
The only difference between Woo-tan Klanners and Al Qaeda is that Al Qaeda members are not cowards.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this
Let’s face it, any group of fascist pigs who hide behind women and children and blow up civilians like al Qaeda are the ultimate in cowards, just like diseased liberal monkeybats in America run and hide under the beds about the LIE of man-made global warming.
Two nuts in a sack.
By Van
May 20, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this
Markus,
So all I have to do to be a real patriot is to paint my Volvo camouflage and put signs in the windows? Couldn’t they find anyone with a camouflage truck or SUV in New York? I got kind of confused during the slide show. They lost me during the stirring re-enactment of prisoners in orange uniforms doing… ummm… I don’t know. I am glad to see there was a fiddler there. It must have been a real ho-down. It looks like there was something for everybody.
By getalife
May 20, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
“It’s gloomy out there. Men and women, whites and minorities — all are feeling a war-weary pessimism about the country seldom shared by so many people. Only 25 percent of those surveyed say things in the U.S. are going in the right direction, according to an AP-Ipsos poll this month.”
The incredible shrinking of the idiots.
Losers!
By getalife
May 20, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this
“Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich told Liberty University’s graduating class Saturday to honor the spirit of school founder Jerry Falwell by confronting “the growing culture of radical secularism” with Christian ideals.”
Yea, we found our new Fartwell.
Freaking idiot.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
gitmo,
Don’t cha wish your girlfriend was hot like me? Don’t cha wish your girlfriend was a freak like me? Don’t cha!
By Markus
May 20, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
“Van” we all know the original Van is long gone here. Anyway “Van,” is all you need to do to save the planet is wipe with one sheet and drive a hybrid?
By Van
May 20, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this
You did not answer any of my questions.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this
Neostalinist ID poofer trying to get me to screw him again. I’m a one man man punk and gitmo is my man. So butt out DemonRAT jacker who never discusses the issues.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this
Van,
Let’s say me and you meet each other at the nearest gay bar and play “flippy flop”.
By Van
May 20, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this
I told you before, I am an independent. Also, I never stole anyone’s ID. Can there be more than one Van on a blog, or is there a registry of taken names I should have consulted?
By Markus
May 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this
“Van” really you only had one question. I don’t consider the SUV/camo question a valid question because I don’t live in New Yawk and couldn’t be paid enough to live there.
Anyway, being a patriot means doing more than blogging on a keyboard all day and b!tching about something instead of actually getting off your fat@ss and DOING something. Protesting protestors is an example. Are you telling me that wacky liberals like THIS aren’t doing something? I’ll bet you think they are patriots too.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
Van,
I really just want to suck your c*ck. All this political talk has made me horny as hell. Do you prefer fast or slow strokes?
By Markus
May 20, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
(Have fun playing with yourself, ID jackal monkeyboy.. I ain’t going nowhere and you ain’t shutting me up, queef bag). POW!
Anyone remember those muslim cab drivers in Minnesooooota who refused to take fares with people with alcohol or dogs IN FREAKING AMERICA??? A month ago, the crackdown on these crackpots began.
Now I wonder, what if it were a Catholic who refused to take a woman who just had an abortion? Or a Jew who refused to scan pork at Wal Mart for that matter? Do you think the media would have been so “compassionate” to them as Christians or Jews? Not only no, but HELL no.
By Van
May 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
Actually, Markus, threatening the life of the President is against the law. I am not sure that a protest sign is protected free speech. Whatever my feeling towards the President, I do not advocate violence towards him. You are right that the only way to affect change is with action and not words. I guess that why the Democrats took control of the Congress. Changes are coming. What will you do if a Democrat is elected President in ‘08?
By Markus
May 20, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
Well “Van,” the Van I knew here last year and possibly earlier this year was VASTLY different than you. That’s all I’ll say. Either you had a bad head injury or you did what I originally accused you “Van” of doing.
BTW, for an “independent” you sure as hell sound a lot like a liberal.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this
“I guess that why the Democrats took control of the Congress. Changes are coming. What will you do if a Democrat is elected President in ‘08?”
I rest my case on “Van.”
By getalife
May 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
Yes, this Van has a brain and the other Van is pure wooten wingnut.
By getalife
May 20, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
Of course, if you do not believe in macaca’s idiotic mind set, you are a liberal.
No, not even close.
You are a real American.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this
Nobody asked for you opinion, sh!tonlife you pathetic disgusting liberal maggot.
By alan
May 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
@@ don’t drown in the pool - but at least it would mean one less piece of conservative trash….
By Markus
May 20, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
Of course, if you don’t believe in the disease of liberalism, those nazis liberal facist demoncats from hell will burn you at the stake.
Live free of collectivist nazi liberal socialism. Think for yourself. Decide for yourself. Learn for yourself. Work for yourself. Own yourself.
By getalife
May 20, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
Struck a nerve there, huh loser?
Bwa.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
Wait, wait wait, let’s hear craponlife’s whineyassed cry of:
IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU!!
Waaah, waaah, waaaaaaah….
Fascist liberal neoMarxist pigs.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
Don’t flatter yourself craponlife, you aren’t that important here to really fluster anyone, not the least of which is your spaceport disease of liberal denial of planet earth reality.
Being questioned being called a liberal a few weeks ago…
Absolutely the moment of truth of denial for you, jackass.
Zombie.
By Van
May 20, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
Someone needs a new thesaurus of put-downs. The current material is getting a little redundant.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
”@@ don’t drown in the pool - but at least it would mean one less piece of conservative trash….”
Don’t worry sicko liberal alan, your comments here are duly noted as well since that’s about all you can post here, God’s trash.
By getalife
May 20, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
Of course, if you don’t believe in the disease of liberalism, those nazis liberal facist demoncats from hell will burn you at the stake. Live free of collectivist nazi liberal socialism. Think for yourself. Decide for yourself. Learn for yourself. Work for yourself. Own yourself.
Wow, that was deep in a hitler kind of way.
Did you point your arm up when you wrote that nazi?
Geez.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this
“Someone needs a new thesaurus of put-downs. The current material is getting a little redundant.”
Hmmm…
Funny, you monotonous mealy-mouthed closet liberals never complain when what’s-his-@ss demoncat liberal always ends with:
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
B!tch, b!tch, b!tch. That’s all you sickos on the left do.
By WootenDull
May 20, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this
These libs don’t even blush anymore:
That said, we can understand why the former Senator’s campaign wants to change the subject. Mr. Edwards has campaigned, both in 2004 and now, against the use of offshore tax shelters, the supposed rising tide of U.S. inequality and the plight of the American worker. Mr. Edwards’ employment at an investment firm that headquarters most of its hedge and private equity funds in one of the world’s most notorious tax shelters underscores all of those themes—albeit not quite in the way the Edwards campaign has chosen to emphasize.
I guess they must figure their voters are so damn stupid that they won’t ever catch on to this sh-it.
They have a good point.
Cowards.
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By getalife
May 20, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
Wow, 75% of American people are b-itching?
Wonder why they are so upset?
Geez.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this
“Wow, that was deep in a hitler kind of way. Did you point your arm up when you wrote that nazi?”
Case in point for the disease of liberalism and craponlife’s spaceport world. If you didn’t think the NAZI way in 1939-45 (instead of for YOURSELF), you either died or you were killed. Pretty simple.
Keep up the good work of the spaceport of liberalism craponlife. You do your sick ideology well.
No, you really can’t make up a jackass character like craponlife. Only the cancer of liberalism can do that to the brain.
By Van
May 20, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this
Markus,
Interesting you thought my comment was directed at you when I did not address it to anyone specifically.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this
Yeah I’m b!tching about the president too. He’s NOT A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN THAT HE RAN AS. Betcha don’t see that little factoid of my fellow Americans who voted for him in those polls.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this
Craponlife, everyone could have the same things in life, no rich, no poor, everyone would all have equal height, weight, be of the same color, everyone could receive the same check every month, land could be saved and returned to nature while we all collectively live in inner city shoe boxes, our military could be disbanded and the UN would be our world police, and you know what? Even THEN you miserable @ssholes on the left would find SOMETHING to b!tch about. That’s the nature of the disease you sickos have. You people will never, EVER be happy in this world. E-V-E-R.
Zombies.
By getalife
May 20, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this
That is bs, hitler got his a-ss kicked just like you wingnuts.
Bwa.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this
“Interesting you thought my comment was directed at you when I did not address it to anyone specifically.”
“Van,” any comment posted on this blog is fair game to anyone. Didn’t you hear the news? Now you are really showing your true whineyassed bedwetting liberal colors.
The hell’s WRONG with you people?
By getalife
May 20, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
Sure will we will macaca.
No more hate in 08.
There ya go.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
“That is bs, hitler got his a-ss kicked just like you wingnuts.”
Let the record reflect that now craponlife doesn’t believe that Hitler and his Eichmanns really didn’t kill anyone who refused to think the Nazi way.
Whatever in the hell kind of drugs/alcohol combo this liberal demoncat moonbat POS is on, I hope they find his illegal drug and moonshine distillery and shut his @ss down.
God how pathetic can one person get. Left OR right for that matter. This @sshole is off the charts.
By Van
May 20, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
It’s been fun, but I have got to leave you all for the day. I can’t even remember what the original topic of the blog was. Oh yeah, spending cuts. I think we have accomplished a lot here today. Ummm, maybe not.
By getalife
May 20, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
You have a wild imagination.
What are you on?
By getalife
May 20, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this
Yes, lets leave macaca alone to stew in his own hatred.
Post away macaca.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
Since craponlife didn’t like my “own yourself” (ie: be an individual) comments and tried to wet his panties and twist and distort them into some “nazi” hate speech (best RAT bullsh!t comment O’day), I thought I’d remind everyone of the war against the individual by the diseased left and what Lenin thought of being an individual:
“The cult of the individual.”
Serpents.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this
“Yes, lets leave macaca alone to stew in his own hatred.”
“Post away macaca.”
By getalife May 20, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
Fartwell is burning in hell which the wooten wingnts will follow. †
You always beat me to it, craponlife. Sick, sick, sick. You are so hypocritical it makes ME sick. But, I have to constantly remind myself you have a disease of the brain, and I have to keep my comments in check for the mentally ill.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this
Let the record reflect that “hate speech” is defined by nazi liberals as anything spoken that they don’t agree with.
Fascists.
By @@
May 20, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this
Ooooo lookee Getalife!
I know how you are always concerned about jobs going to China and Chinese goods coming to America.
From Stratfor:
China-bashing, particularly on the economic front, is a very popular play in U.S. politics, and members of Congress on both sides of the aisle participate with gusto. But even some of the biggest China-bashers have noted that they have little desire actually to pass their extreme punitive trade bills against Beijing, but rather want to use them to shape Beijing’s perceptions and its ultimate actions. Things like a 27 percent tariff on all Chinese-manufactured goods might hurt China, but they also would hit U.S. businesses that have invested in and moved manufacturing to China to take advantage of the cost savings. These same businesses also are the financial backers of many Congressional campaigns. And even Congress’ constituents are not necessarily best-served by a massive and rapid shift in the U.S.-Chinese trade patterns, as American consumers have grown quite fond of the low-cost imports.
Complex, isn’t it Getalife?
But what’s not complex is the way your politicians go about their business while misleading YOU.
The Democrats in congress have no intentions of addressing YOUR concerns when it comes to China, they just want you to BELIEVE they do.
alan:
”@@ don’t drown in the pool - but at least it would mean one less piece of conservative trash….”
What exactly is it about me that you dislike so vehemently?
Unlike you, I smile every time I see one of your posts. Well, that’s not completely true…
the real truth is that I laugh when I see your posts.
By WootenDull
May 20, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
Most Republicans regard Paul’s idea of America’s proper role in the world — stay at home, avoid alliances, and expend no energy making the world safer or protecting human rights — as eccentric. Invoking Osama bin Laden as the legitimate voice of the Muslim Middle East is the hallmark of a crank, not a conservative. No wonder Giuliani’s smackdown was applauded so forcefully.
Just think, al-Gitmo, I’ll bet people were applauding Markus when he smacked you down this afternoon and caused you to cut and run, like the true sniveling Coward liberal that you are.
Yay, Markus!
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By Markus
May 20, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
“alan: What exactly is it about me that you dislike so vehemently?”
That’s an easy one @@, you don’t THINK like the little fascist nazi liberal pig, that’s all. It’s exactly what I’ve been referring to here for the last few hours. Those sickos can’t be reasoned with, just like the islamofascist terrorists they defend so much.
By WootenDull
May 20, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this
Yeah, this guy is a real lib, sure thing:
{{{Sarkozy wants to lower taxes, including inheritance taxes, and eliminate the tax on overtime work. That tax, along with government snoops patrolling companies’ parking lots to detect antisocial industriousness, enforces the 35-hour workweek. He wants to do what Margaret Thatcher did after she was elected in 1979 because Britain was weary of being governed less by parliament than by unions. Even before Sarkozy was elected, public sector unions — government organized to pressure itself to fatten itself — threatened a paralyzing national strike because he opposes allowing 500,000 employees of government-controlled companies to retire earlier than private sector employees, and with larger pensions.}}}
Geez.
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By BMLG
May 20, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this
one of the greatest human failings has been to accommodate religious extremists and madmen throughout history. The christian zealots on this continent and the murderous jews and muslims in the mideast all share an ancient irrational ancestry and all are a scourge. they proffer lies for truth and madness for reality and they have always preyed upon the weak and stupid (see markus, wootendull, etc) a world free of this nonsense is coming one day. unless they succeed in killing everyone on the planet first and bringing about their idiotic paradise.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this
“they have always preyed upon the weak and stupid (see markus, wootendull, etc) a world free of this nonsense is coming one day.”
ID queef, show me in any of MY posts where I have mentioned religion and shoving it down ANY of you diseased liberals’ throats.
Of course, I can show post after post after post where you liberal fascist demoncats are trying to take over the nation with YOUR interpretation of your little liberal Utopian society and tell everyone ELSE how to live their lives.
Hypocritical zombies, that’s all you idiots on the left are.
By getalife
May 20, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this
@@,
You are right on that issue.
That Dem secret trade deal stinks to high heaven like NAFTA.
At least they blocked the Mexican truck deal.
Bunch of pinkos.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this
“Cannes is smacking its lips in anticipation of filmmaker and provocateur Michael Moore’s latest jeremiad against the US administration, which receives its premiere at the film festival today. Sicko, a documentary tackling the state of American healthcare, focuses on the pharmaceutical giants, and particularly on health insurers.”
“The film has already caused Moore - who won the Palme d’Or at Cannes in 2004 with Fahrenheit 911 - to clash with the American authorities. Now, according to movie mogul Harvey Weinstein, whose Weinstein Company is behind the film, the US government is attempting to impound the negative.”
“According to Weinstein, the US Treasury’s moves meant “we had to fly the movie to another country”- he would not say to where. “Let the secret service find that out - though this is the same country that thought there were weapons of mass destruction, so they’ll never find it.” He added that he feared that if the film were impounded, there might be attempts to cut some footage, in particular the last 20 minutes, which related to a trip to Cuba. This, said Weinstein, “would not be good.”
Throw the fatassed SOB in jail and throw away the key. The biggest anti-capitalist communist wannabe puke in this nation has gone too far now. We do have laws in this nation, contrary to popular liberal belief (who always b!tch about Bush abusing the Constitution).
Sickos indeed.
By WootenDull
May 20, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this
{{{First it was his world history class. Then he saw it in his economics class. And his world issues class. And his environment class. In total, 18-year-old McKenzie, a Northern Ontario high schooler, says he has had the film An Inconvenient Truth shown to him by four different teachers this year. “I really don’t understand why they keep showing it,”}}}
Because they’re dumb as-ses that’s why.
It’s been outed as a pack of al-Gore lies but the sniveling Cowards that infest our public schools want to ram it down your innocent child’s throat.
What other bullsh-it are they feeding the children?
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By getalife
May 20, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this
Andy,
Who is talking about France?
You talking to yourself again?
Geez.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this
It’s an open blog, craponlife. Anyone can post about anything. You don’t have some snappy comeback for WD’s France post, do you? No, you never do. Idiot.
You ALWAYS bring on your own bullsnot topics. What, you can dish it out, but cant take it, you good little Eichmann hypocritical fascist liberal?
By getalife
May 20, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this
Faux loved “sicko”, shocking I know.
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Pelosi backing off lobbying reform tells me the lobbyists still rule Washington.
Very disappointing.
By Markus
May 20, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this
Thanks to the disease of liberalism and their cult lie of man-made global warming, now our kids are going to spend time watching some Al Sorebot Leninist propoganda film instead of learning important FACTUAL things like history?
The monotonous society of zombies that liberals want to control is well on it’s way. Thank GOD we have private schools to keep the resistance to this disease alive.
By WootenDull
May 20, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this
{{{By getalife May 20, 2007 5:57 Andy, Who is talking about France? You talking to yourself again?}}}
Follow the bouncing ball, al-Gitmo:
{{{By Midori May 20, 2007 3:19 PM The French have a new president}}}
Geez.
Coward.
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