Thinking Right

By Think Wooten's back yard

May 17, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this

Why not east?

By Bob Clampett

May 17, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

The nertballs of the right and left (west and east?) will soon be here to ignore Jim’s topic, since he was nuts enough to write about a state issue.

What’s he thinking? It’s all Bush all the time around here.

By Jim Wooten

May 17, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this

Make the argument for putting it east, Think. Nobody else has.

By jbmlaw

May 17, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I reject the apparent (?) underlying thesis of Jim’s essay, although I contemplate the possibility that there is a hidden idea. My antenna rise at some old news “The city owns land in Dawson County that was purchased decades ago as a potential site.” I am certain there is some reason it is a great idea to have taxpayers contributing to an unelected quasi-public commercial monopoly to run the airports, but I cannot see it. “Airport/government monopoly law” is outside my expertise, but if I had any competence there I would explore expansion of the Lawrenceville airport, to try to lure Southwest Airlines (and others unwilling to pay the gate fees at Hartsfield,) to break the monopoly.

Long time bloggers here know my anti-infrastructure bias, but I believe offering a real choice of air service would make alter public demand for transportation infrastructure.

I respectfully think the Macon alternative would hold little value to prospective servers – they want to be closer to the potential markets, and any potential markets to the South are still too many years away to make a reasonable near-term return.

By RW (the original)

May 17, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

An immigration bill that falls short of totally eliminating Mexicans from this country is what will be unacceptable.

By deegee

May 17, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

“If rail advocates are serious about trying to turn a white elephant idea (commuter rail) into something workable, and if the state is serious about spreading economic development, a second airport should go to the middle part of the state, perhaps Macon or Warner Robins.”

Wooten thinks like a bureaucrat. We already have enough rapid transit going to places that nobody is interested in going. Economic development is north of Atlanta.

Another regional airport is necessary. On a Friday afternoon you can go all the way to Augusta and back while waiting for clearance to land and for a gate at the airport. On some flights I have spent more time circling Atlanta than en route. I won’t hold my breath. Although Delta is back on it’s feet again they aren’t going to be in the mood to allow a competing carrier to establish a hub in the exurban Atlanta area.

By Van

May 17, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

Whether the proposed airport is east, west or north, it really does not matter. However, placing a second airport south of Atlanta just does not make sense.

Between Atlanta and Athens makes sense.

Out toward Alpharetta makes sense.

West out toward Six Flags and Douglasville makes sense.

But 2 airports south of Atlanta, no, that is not logical.

By AlleyCat

May 17, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this

We understand jbmlaw… or is it jbmfraud. Everything but chasing those flashing red lights for Ken Nugent is outside your area of expertise. By the way do you get to have that catchy little phrase on your business cards? You know…”one call, that’s all”.

By Jeff

May 17, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten:

An idea (and I live about two miles away from this right now!!):

Expand Robins to include both the military base and a civilian airport. It already has MASSIVE runways (being from the area yourself, I’m sure you’ve see the size of some of the cargo planes that come through there!). Add about 3 more of them, put the civilian airport on the East side of the base (fyi for those that don’t know, the west side of the base is where all the buildings are, and further west on the edge of the base is a major 6 lane highway, on the west side of which is Warner Robins). The idea has been done in HA and several other locations globally (maybe even a few more in the states. most of the projects that I’m aware of though involve taking NON-active AFBs and turning them into civilian airports) and has been shown to work.

Another option would be making Middle GA Regional (on the same highway, btw, about 5 - 10 miles north of the base) and expanding it into an International. SOME road infrastructure would probably need to be added in that area though, but it is mostly farmland around the borders of MGAR….

By deegee

May 17, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

RW(the original), thank you for bringing your clarity of vision to a complex issue. You have said publicly what Tom Tancredo and his flock of Tancretins can only say privately. You are a brave and honest person.

By rarringt

May 17, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

Good morning all,

Based on today’s topic, I imagine the blog will be rife with NIMBYism (not in my backyard) all day.

Folks in the north have long maintained the need for a second airport to keep the economic engine of atlanta running (a town many disparage but virtually all rely on. How many blogs are offered in the Statesboro Journal, Jim?)

All well and good. Problem is, nobody wants the noise, congestion and other issues attendant with a large airport as a neighbor. That’s why Cobb and Gwinnett nixed the idea in the past.

How unfair is it for the people who stand to benefit the most imposing what they consider a nuisance on the people who would carry the burden?

But then again, that appears to be a fundamental part of Thinking Right.

Thanks to the historic inequitable distributions of resources, the population, economic centers, and infrastructure necessary for another airport is well north of I-20. The airport should be where the need is, not around the corner from Hartsfield-Jackson.

In addition, I would agree that they should also look into expanding the resources at the current airport, and by expanding light rail/and or dedicated rapid bus services. For example, train service from Cherokee County tracking along 675 and 75, and expanded service down from Alpharetta might make sense. If we want ATL to be a world class city, we have to start looking towards 2050, and stop trying to turn it back to what it was circa 1950.

That time has passed, Jim. Really.

By Curious Observer

May 17, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

By Wooten’s logic, if I want to build a store to serve the population on Atlanta’s growing north side, I should locate it near Macon. Makes sense to me. NOT!

Wooten is indulging in yet another form of social engineering. He is focusing on the economic development of middle Georgia, while the customer base for a second airport already resides more than twenty miles away from the current airport. Wooten’s solution: Put the second airport 60 miles away! Who cares about the customers’ needs?

It’s pretty clear that Wooten is intellectually fit to occupy a cabinet position in the Bush administration. I can hear the praise now: “Nice job, Wootie!”

By Think Wooten's back yard

May 17, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

It’s the Statesboro Herald, by the way, rarringt.

By Dennis

May 17, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

Robbins AFB makes sense and so does the old Turner AFB in Albany, Ga. After all, why should we think that everyone who flies into Atlanta lives in or has business in Atlanta?

The political/business folks in Atlanta are just afraid of a little competition.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By harold

May 17, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

FOOLS, you cannot put an airport on the east side or west side of the city. Think of the “sunshine slowdown” the traffic radio entertainers always speak of. Do you want pilot flying in to that sun each dawn and duck? Harold says NOES.

By Jim's Boss

May 17, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

Dear Readers,

We should like to apologize for the dunderheadedness of today’s column. In fact, it is not Mr Wooten’s fault. We are experimenting with an automated word generation system that factors in the ideology, persoanl tics, and typical vocabulary of any given columnist and, with the suggestion of a topic, generates a column suitable for publication under that writer’s byline.

Or that is the hope. This program has worked very well with such established columnist brands as Tom Friedman, Maureen Dowd, and David Broder (few people realize that Dean Broder actually died 8 months ago, but his column continues).

Alas, today’s experiment demonstrates that not all the bugs have been worked out. So tomorrow, the column will again be the product of a seasoned scribe penning his own thoughts for your perusal. Yes, our Bangalore Bureau will again be in charge of Thinking Right.

Our apologies for any inconvenience.

The Mgmt.

By Think Wooten's back yard

May 17, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

Well, Jim asked me for the east argument and I sent it, but it didn’t get posted, so here we go again.

East makes sense because,while there has been growth that way, it hasn’t been the choking kind seen north. And there is still plenty of land out east. And in addition to serving Atlanta, it might also benefit Athens and Augusta (though their airport managers might disagree).

By Jeff

May 17, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

Y’all, I live off Russell Parkway in Warner Robins (about 2 miles from Robins AFB, roughly 10 miles from Mid GA Regional). My parents (indeed, my entire family other than soon-to-be inlaws) live in North GA (Cherokee/ Bartow/ Forsyth/ Floyd counties to be exact). The drive to Macon from ATL won’t be unbearable, IF you can get lower airfares. (Re: Lower gate prices for the carriers, lower ticket prices for the consumer.) I know TONS of people that would come to Macon to get a better deal. MY only concern is that it would possibly put other Regional airports - Valdosta and Albany in particular - out of business.

By Dan

May 17, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this

By deegee

May 17, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

RW(the original), thank you for bringing your clarity of vision to a complex issue. You have said publicly what Tom Tancredo and his flock of Tancretins can only say privately. You are a brave and honest person.

Actually he is a klansman just looking for someone to lynch. Unfortunately for you wingnuts, the Latino community is about to be a much more formidable voting constituancy than the racist right. The right wings obvious racist bent is going to cost you dearly for generations to come.

By Dusty

May 17, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

I think there are some very good ideas here this morning.

Jim Wooten looks to the future development of southern Georgia. Seems logical to help a part of the state that needs it, not the north that is growing too fast for its own good.

Then Jeff’s ideas about Warner Robbins has a hint of economy. An airbase already situated with long runways. (Does anybody remember the cost of building one new runway in Atlanta?) This is probably closer to the middle of the state than Atanta.

Considering the east, that would make the airport closer to Augusta, Ft. Gordon and South Carolina. Worth considering.

Anyway, I flew into London and then had a long trainride to “town”. It wasn’t difficult and there was no lack of use by airlines or passengers.

By James

May 17, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

Think flat people…FLAT. Flat-good…Hills-Bad

By GeorgeS

May 17, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

You right wing no beer on Sundays tee shirt taliban types are history. You are done. Finished.

By Redneck Convert

May 17, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

Well, I’m all for putting the new airport in Macon. Airports attrack Those People as workers. If you put the airport up here in north Forysth county where I live then Those People will be flocking up here. Its bad enough I got a family of Those People living in my trailer park. I would hate to have to move if more of them show up.

I hope all the commies and libruls have to sleep all day to get over their big drug party yesterday. I never seen so many of them show up on this blog before. They was wild. Maybe we can keep the topic on the new airport. Instead of on My President and the war.

By dusty does it again

May 17, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

Dusty, please study a map of Georgia before opining. Warner Robbins is not “probably” closer to the middle of the state than Atlanta, it is almost exactly in the middle of the state.

By getalife

May 17, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

A large and growing number of Americans are asking out loud: “What has happened to our country?” People are trying to figure out what has gone wrong in our democracy, and how we can fix it. — By Al Gore.

By harold

May 17, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

Why not just build a new airport on top of I-75 at Windy Hill? It couldn’t be any more expensive than the billion dollar dirt for the 5th runway at HartsfieldMLKJacksonObamaLoretta

Or use that high speed maglev thing that guy out in powder springs build and put the new airport in chattanooga where there already is another airport, or birmingham, or Athens and the maglev rail line could have duel purposes

By BendOverCons

May 17, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

The minority population in this country has topped 100 million. That’s alot of votes that the shrinking right wing of the republican party is chasing to the left. No wonder Rudy felt so comfortable giving all you right wing scrum the middle finger. You have no relevance anymore and your power wanes with each passing day. Get used to it wing nuts. The big brown weinie is coming right at your racist kazoos.

By Um, Harold

May 17, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

Hal, we got planes taking off and landing east and west at Hartsfield now. But if you’re worried about it, they could build north-south runways no matter where the airport is built. Duh.

By harold

May 17, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

a new airport must not be further south than hartsfield because nobody would use it unless they split up international and domesteric between the two airports and connected them with a high speed maglev train

then again if they build a high speed maglev train to the airports, people are gonna question the sanity of “same coast” air travel when trains can go 250mph easy

By LMAO

May 17, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

I went to the Georgia Republican website to see what the official stance of the Republican party is concerning a second airport for the region. Here are a few highlights.

A proposal to have all the jets fly into Jackson International Airport. The jets would then get on the freeway and drive you to a satellite terminal in a different city. We could put satellite terminals in Athens, Chattanoga and Macon. Our wonderful road builders can then build dedicated toll roads used by jets only.

Proposal #2: Why not Atlanta for the second Airport site? We could dig huge tunnels right under downtown Atlanta and create a very nice and convenient airport! We could then connect the underground airport to our underground freeway system!

Proposal #3: Institute the FairTax.

By frcibly deport all illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Immediately and FORCIBLY deporting all illegal Mexican types and their leeching “anchor babies” is the ONLY way to go. There will be enough ‘legal’ Mexican restaurants left for those needing a stale chalupa and greasy refried beans with the world’s cheapest tasteless cheese smothering them.

Nice to see Danturd’s and heebeedeegee’s deranged hissy fits so early - that sure was a classic mister dogsqueeze - got any more gems like that??!!

Any second airport should be on the North side - in the “middle”, somewhere say between Acworth/Woodstock - to help avoid any ‘extra’ muggings/carjackings and general migration of crime from the more thuggish/criminal ever changing for the worse Marietta/Smyrna and the rest of the crime blighted Southside of the metro area. Obviously a major new DIRECT road and rail link would have to be built to service the airport. It would clearly take years and years to do this and be prohibitively expensive. So maybe we should just forget about it!!

However I still think that a fast non stop Atl-Chatt rail link - kind of like the London-Gatwick ‘express’ railway line would be best, as Chatt airport is allowed to naturally and speedily expand. This new railway line should also have a decent all day, well into the evening timetable of what the Spanish call ‘semi-fast’ trains that stop at places like Dalton, Calhoun, Cartersville, Kennesaw, Marietta (ONLY if the new/illegal resident crime stops growing), Atlantic Station (for IKEA) and Downtown.

By forcibly deport ALL illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Immediately and FORCIBLY deporting all illegal Mexican types and their leeching “anchor babies” is the ONLY way to go. There will be enough ‘legal’ Mexican restaurants left for those needing a stale chalupa and greasy refried beans with the world’s cheapest tasteless cheese smothering them.

Nice to see Danturd’s and heebeedeegee’s deranged hissy fits so early - that sure was a classic mister dogsqueeze - got any more gems like that??!!

Any second airport should be on the North side - in the “middle”, somewhere say between Acworth/Woodstock - to help avoid any ‘extra’ muggings/carjackings and general migration of crime from the more thuggish/criminal ever changing for the worse Marietta/Smyrna and the rest of the crime blighted Southside of the metro area. Obviously a major new DIRECT road and rail link would have to be built to service the airport. It would clearly take years and years to do this and be prohibitively expensive. So maybe we should just forget about it!!

However I still think that a fast non stop Atl-Chatt rail link - kind of like the London-Gatwick ‘express’ railway line would be best, as Chatt airport is allowed to naturally and speedily expand. This new railway line should also have a decent all day, well into the evening timetable of what the Spanish call ‘semi-fast’ trains that stop at places like Dalton, Calhoun, Cartersville, Kennesaw, Marietta (ONLY if the new/illegal resident crime stops growing), Atlantic Station (for IKEA) and Downtown.

By Go to 8th grade

May 17, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

All this time I had no idea Dusty was a transplant who knows as much about, oh, let’s say Delaware, as about Georgia. Now I really can’t stand her. Go to your local middle school and sign up for Georgia history. There’s some geography in it, too. Hell, maybe she doesn’t even live in Georgia. Maybe she’s in San Diego.

By No Mas

May 17, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

By frcibly deport all illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Immediately and FORCIBLY deporting all illegal Mexican types and their leeching “anchor babies” is the ONLY way to go. There will be enough ‘legal’ Mexican restaurants left for those needing a stale chalupa and greasy refried beans with the world’s cheapest tasteless cheese smothering them.

This is exactly what drives mainstream Americans away from the Republican party and exactly why the right wing has to go. If not the party is living on borrowed time. Rudy was on to something when he came out pro-choice. He knows what is happening and who the party has to have to survive. And it ain’t the right wing crowd.

By Citizen Caine

May 17, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

Jim, I think your blog should be given a public service award. This blog is doing a monumental service in shining the light of truth on the racism of the republican right that was heretofore carefully hidden. Thank you Jim for exposing the trash on the republican right.

By DebbieDoRight

May 17, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Here’s a little bit of personal information on Truth. His relatives are so proud of him.

Last week drivers on the motorway in Ferrol, Spain were surprised to see a disabled man travelling along the road in his motorised bed. The 42 year old Antonio Navarro, who is 95% disabled, and who drives and controls his motorised bed with his mouth, had got drunk and was intending to visit ‘Jade’ a local w*******

By harold

May 17, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Why not ban air travel for anything accessible via land within 1000 miles? That’d be a 4 hour maglev train trip.

You could maglev ATL to NYC in three hours. Flying is 2.5 hours. So, why bother flying?

Airplanes should go over the water or over the continettal divide

By forcibly deport ALL illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

HA HA HA HA

These sad leftist scum who pander to free loading, increasingly criminal and/or violent illegals care NOTHING about US immigration law!!

Go F Yourself you nasty treasonous TW AT!!

FORCIBLY deporting illegals is EXACTLY what the corrupt “racist” Mexican govt does to its illegals. That’s one of the all too rare shining examples of forward thinking that Mexico offers the world!!

Indeed all illegals in the backward crime ridden sh!tehole that is Mexico are treated far worse by the “racist” authorities than the kid glove treatment they get here!!

Tell us scumbucket - why the hell should the US govt NOT treat illegal Mexicans exactly the way they treat their illegals??

By Camus

May 17, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

TFTT writes: Tell us scumbucket - why the hell should the US govt NOT treat illegal Mexicans exactly the way they treat their illegals??

Maybe because we are better than that as a nation?

By crackpipe your pimp is calling ...

May 17, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

the obese fat black cow crackpipe has a criminal past - her and her equally obese, crack smoking whoralicious blubbery cellulite ridden sistas are still on the run in OH …

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0809063fat1.html

I suppose crackpipe is still deeply bitter because of THIS UNASSAILABLE TRUTH:

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TSCK2APTHUPU9M04B/p12

By forcibly deport ALL illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

so the leftist scum on here preidcktably UTTERLY IGNORE the racist hypocrisy of Mexicans and the eway they treat illegals!! They ignore the huge, ever increasing thuggish criminality and freeloading of Mexican type illegals *and they have NO fooking answer at ALL for the simple fact that:

ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL!!!

By rarringt

May 17, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Forcibly/Abort/Andy/SCUM/TFTT/Whatever,

I see you’re back to your old pleasant self this morning.

oh, goody. >:^/

By Dusty

May 17, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

All you exporters of the truth and nothing but the liberal truth,

If I suggest Warner Robbins is probably in the middle of Georgia, I did not get out my ruler and measure. Just passed on what I thought was true.

Do you ever have any doubt about what you post? Probably not. It has already been edited by the DNC.

I want Georgia to make progress with its airports and its economy. You want to sit here and sqawk about conservatives.

Well, have at it, brothers and sister. I don’t really care. In the meantime, I think Warner Robbins is PROBABLY close to the middle of Georgia. So there. Happpy?

By Laura

May 17, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

For the next airport, use the land purchased in Paulding County. With all of the subdivisions that are popping up there, they will need an airport for jobs to avoid a nightmare commute to the ATL. There is NO real employer there and the new residents are setting themselves up for a 1 1/2 hour commute one-way on a GOOD day.

By melo

May 17, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

Expand Robins to include both the military base and a civilian airport. It already has MASSIVE runways (being from the area yourself(meaning Jim) So this is about regionalism and not an objective look of where development should go!! Or Pork. Thought Jim hates pork. And then thisIncentives, including the proposed senior tax break, should be limited to counties that are either stagnant or losing population

If u limit an incentive, u are in reality disciminating and instituting a tax increase on a segment of the population. Thought Neocons like Jim dont like to raise taxes.

We are all wrong to think that way.

But then, i dont mind development in the south. Its fair for GA and that will give the rednecks in the south a chance to mix with the civilized world. This hate on immigrants who after all do the work in the farms down south, would go away.

By no answer

May 17, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

I wish that everybody who has moved to Atlanta in the last 20 years would move back to their city!

By no answer

May 17, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

I wish that everybody who has moved to Atlanta in the last 20 years would move back to their city!

By Amy

May 17, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

By Go to 8th grade

May 17, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

All this time I had no idea Dusty was a transplant who knows as much about, oh, let’s say Delaware, as about Georgia. Now I really can’t stand her. Go to your local middle school and sign up for Georgia history. There’s some geography in it, too. Hell, maybe she doesn’t even live in Georgia. Maybe she’s in San Diego.

8th grade, Dusty is one of those women that doesn’t have a thought that her husband didn’t have first. A real non-thinker.

By hazer

May 17, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

Somewhere between Winder and Monroe, in either Barrow or Walton Counties, would make the most sense. Go ahead and upgrade 316 and 78 to limited access interstate status. Plenty of road, plenty of flat land, lower population density, easy access to Atlanta and Athens and Augusta. It’s a no-brainer (C;

By forcibly deport ALL illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

rabidingt

NOPE!! WRONG AGAIN AS EVER - just having some gentle fun gently mirroring back the usual hysterical leftist abuse!!

I love seeing that the leftists - when it suits them - utterly disregard the laws, especially immigration laws. The illegal infestation is likely at about 20 million, certainly its well over 15 million - the govt refuses to admit “offically” its higher so becaue they have NO idea and refuse to find out. They don’t want to turn the folks completely against the odious socially corrosive amnesty being puked up in the senate and slavishly supported by the (on this matter) coward Bush!!

By BendOverCons

May 17, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

By forcibly deport ALL illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this Go F Yourself you nasty treasonous TW AT!!

F-ing yourself is something that you know alot about, huh Andy/Luckodull little gimped up leech on society. What a worthless little asexual worm you are.

Thanks again Jim for giving trash like Andy a forum by which he can assassinate the republican party.

By forcibly deport ALL illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Its hilarious to see the usual far left cyber bullies lamely attempting to gang up like a moveyourbowels.org lynch mob and attempt to bully Dusty with all these numerous dumbarse ids and obsessive, unremitting abuse… clearly these gutless scum are too ashamed to post under their “real uusal id”.

By Dusty

May 17, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

Amy aka Amelia aka etc etc.@ 11:09

Now what were your ideas on the subject of the day? You forgot to tell us.

By Sara

May 17, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

By Camus

May 17, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

TFTT writes: Tell us scumbucket - why the hell should the US govt NOT treat illegal Mexicans exactly the way they treat their illegals??

Maybe because we are better than that as a nation?

But we won’t be Camus, if the right wing has their way. That is why it is imperative for mainstream America to declare and wage total war on this minority of bigots and fascists. The top priority for the rest of us should be the eradication of the republican right. They will suck the freedom right out of this nation if we don’t stop them now.

By Carlton Wyatt

May 17, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Forget putting another airport south of Atlanta. What a ridiculous idea. The growth is around Atlanta, not Macon, and especially on the northern end. A case could be made for an airport on the northeast side of the city, perhaps between Atlanta and Athens, with a light-rail connection between the two. But perhaps that would be too logical for the politicos of Georgia who are too busy going fishing.

By EB

May 17, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Why not put a cargo airport with limited passenger service at Dobbins and move Dobbins/NAS’s military capabilities to Robbins?

By EB

May 17, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Why not put a cargo airport with limited passenger service at Dobbins and move Dobbins/NAS’s military capabilities to Robbins?

By forcibly deport ALL illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

F-ing yourself is something that you know alot about, huh Andy/Luckodull little gimped up leech on society. What a worthless little asexual worm you are.

HA HA HA HA HA …. too funny - too funny!!!

POOR OLD child molesting rednekkks NAMBLA - or whomever - is really easy to wind the sh!te of this morning!!

and who the hell is this “andy” these leftist queers are obsessed about?

Now answer the actual point about Mexican hypocrisy on illegals. They maltreat and forcibly deport illegals in their corrupt backward cesspit of a country - yet screech and screech like stuck greasy pigs in pidgeon spanish about gringo racism when they are treated with kid gloves here and given billions and billions in handouts and allowed top roam free on major crimeaves in LIBERAL sanctuary cities!!

GFY - leftist hypocrite!!

By Dang you're ignant and don't care

May 17, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

Actually, Dusty, it’s Warner Robins. One B. It’s no wonder you are so ignorant about Georgia, your head’s never been out of your bum.

By Van

May 17, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Amy,

So much for destroying the notion that the left is tolerant.

Try staying on topic. As usual the conservatives try to stay on topic, but the leftie loonies are all over the place.

BTW Sara, the left is not anywhere main stream.

By forcibly deport ALL illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

Now answer the actual point about Mexican hypocrisy on illegals. They maltreat and forcibly deport illegals in their corrupt backward cesspit of a country - yet screech and screech like stuck greasy pigs in pidgeon spanish about gringo racism when they are treated with kid gloves here and given billions and billions in handouts and allowed to roam free on major crimewaves and kill innocent folks DUI style in LIBERAL sanctuary cities and elsewhere!!

By Jack Dorsey

May 17, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

The 2nd airport should go 45 miles west of Hartsfield-Jackson in the city of Mount Zion in Carroll County.

Rationale is obvious: * half-way between Atl and Birmingham with growing economic corridor of Oxford-Anniston, Alabama in between * along 1-20 corridor * US 27 is and has been widened between Columbus and Rome providing easy access to I-85 * weather - building in Dawsonville invite winter weather delays and issues * industry in W. Georgia - Honda Plant, Southwire, Dacoma Industry * Univ. of W. Georgia - 15,000 students

I-20 would be ideal to construct rapid transit between Atl and West Georgia along I-20 corridor.

PLUS: Mount Zion (Carroll County) already has an airport that could easily be expanded with 1,000’s of acres for future growth.

By Econ 101

May 17, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

The Federal Reserve Conference Board said Thursday its index of leading economic indicators dropped 0.5 percent in April, higher than the 0.1 decline analysts were expecting. The reading is designed to forecast economic activity over the next three to six months.

The reading tracks multiple economic indicators. Two of those readings were positive in April:

The negative contributors, beginning with the largest, were:

The 0.5 drop means the cumulative change in the index over the past six months has turned negative.

By DebbieDoRight

May 17, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Some more news about Truth. He’s one class act!!

MAN FARTS - 5 DIE

http://www.themudpile.com/news/sfarts.htm

By forcibly deport ALL illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

let’s bully Dusty

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we can’t actually answer the awkward points about the illegal Mexican type infestation - so let’s keep bullying Dusty - who is not quite as harsh in her responses as some other conservatives.

signed

cowardly leftist scum hiding behind endless moronic, dumbarse ids!!

By Hide 'n Seek

May 17, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo on Wednesday accused Dell Inc. and its financial services affiliate of “bait and switch” advertising and failing to deliver on promised customer service.

Round Rock, Texas-based Dell lured customers with zero percent financing, then switched them to a higher rate without their knowledge at the time of purchase, according to the lawsuit.

The question I have is, where is Georgia’s Attorney General when we need him?

Thurburt Baker. Come out, come out, where ever you are.

By crackpipe your pimp is calling ... again

May 17, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

poor old obese whoralicious slapper crackpipe - it cant actually debate the illegal Mexican infestation so it resorts to enraged, embittered personal abuse!!

anyway at last we can all see what crackpipe looks like:

http://www.yourdailymedia.com/post/1149929079/FatBlackWomanInABathOFLardAnd_Gravy

By crackpipe your pimp is calling ... again

May 17, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

http://www.yourdailymedia.com/post/1149929079/FatBlackWomanInABathOFLardAnd_Gravy

http://www.yourdailymedia.com/post/

1149929079/

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By forcibly deport ALL illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

Dell are lying scum … I bought my last ever Dell PC about 2 years ago.

Their worthless third world tech support is a freaking joke!!!

By Sam

May 17, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Isn’t the current airport south of the city and don;t most of the workers live south of the airport in places like Peachtree City. Another airport south of town is nuts.

By Fun Facts

May 17, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani reported $16.1 million in earned income over the past 16 months, according to financial documents filed Wednesday.

Democratic hopeful John Edwards reported earned income of $1.25 million

By Camus

May 17, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Van,

Wooten kited the immigrant issue in his column, and then it was picked up by your brother in arms TFTT. It is now a legit topic for discussion, so live with it.

As to your anti-immigrant position, it fits right in with the standard 12-year old’s mentality of the Wingnut Right. It rests on bullying, tribalism, and a pathetic “but they do it too” rationale.

Most of the so-called illegals here are working and contributing to our society, often by doing the jobs most Americans wouldn’t touch. Most pay taxes. Occasionally, we hear sensationalized stories about how an “illegal” has done something horrible, stories that are ginned up to encourage your irrational fears. But by and large, the Latino community is no different than any other group. But they look and sound different, and that’s usually enough for the nativist loons to decide that they are ‘undesirable’.

There are plenty of examples of behaviors that are appalling. Why shouldn’t we go ahead and follow their lead to the bottom? By this logic, there is no reason for us to strive to rise above the basest behavior known to mankind. Any depravity committed by someone else becomes a license to engage the same behavior.

Most healthy people outgrow that kind of thinking during the process of adoloscence. The Wingnut Right, as capably represented by the likes of Van, TFTT and Dusty, are classic cases of arrested development. It’s easier than thinking for yourselves. (Cue Dusty to accuse me of parroting DNC talking points. She’s as predictable as the sunrise, but not nearly as bright.)

But with “leaders” like Bush (and wannabes like the current crop of dwarves running for the GOP nomination) pandering to your adolescent fears and fantasies, why bother to grow up? You’re a bunch of Peter Pans.

Time to grow up people. Your infantilism is getting expensive, and it is the rest of us, the real America, who have to pay your tab.

By DebbieDoRight

May 17, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

Here’s a family shot of Truth at the park. He’s the one by the arrow saying “hi” to his friend, Little Billy!

http://www.damnfunnypictures.com/html/Bat-Out-Of-Hell.html

By Amber

May 17, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Here’s an excerpt from Jay Bookman’s editorial about Gingrich today:

“…I have to admit to a certain fondness for Gingrich. Yes, he elevated the use of harsh language to an art form of sorts in modern politics. Yes, he is a first-class hypocrite, preaching personal responsibility and attacking liberals for destroying the foundations of Western civilization, even while his personal life has been a disaster of his own making.

And yes, it’s also true that whenever Gingrich utters the word “frankly,” the words that follow almost always involve rank deception. And frankly, he says “frankly” a lot.

But Gingrich has also never lost his adolescent geekiness. Sometimes it takes the form of an awkward grandiosity, in which he imagines himself as a knight in shining armor defending all that is pure and decent. “People like me are all that stand between us and Auschwitz,” as he once said. He talks big and thinks big, and by doing so he can sometimes raise politics out of the mundane.

Because of the adolescent in him, Gingrich is also still drawn to new ideas like a magpie is drawn to bright and shiny objects. He admires the luster of a concept; he loves its purity, before it becomes tarnished and corrupted by reality. Whether an idea actually works or not in real life sometimes seems less important to him than how cool it is, how beautiful it seems.

That is the sincere side of Gingrich. He has an honest enthusiasm for ideas that is rare and attractive in a politician. If he does run for president, he’ll bring that quality to the 2008 campaign and by doing so raise its level significantly…”

A surprising assessment from Mr. Bookman. Me? I think Gingrich is full of crap. He uses a lot of words, yet when all is said and done, little (if any) substance is contained therein. In addition, he has elevated contradicting oneself (over time) to an art form.

Note to Camus — Fantastic post at 11:52!

By SCNetworks

May 17, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

I am told that the property owned by the City of Atlanta in Dawsonville is the old Nuclear test site for Lockeed. Yes, an old reactor site. Locals tell me that the real issue here is the cost to clean this property up to be useful again for anything.

Infrastucure is also a huge issue. Too much building, too fast.

By forcibly deport ALL illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Illegals are the most vicious and murderous of the gangbangers - try living in various parts of LA to see this. They (collectively) constitute over 30% of the total prison pop at county/state/fed level. 95% of outstanding murder warrants in LA County which is a massive area are for illegal Mexican types. Mexican army types frequently shoot at US Border GUards to help drug smugglers … the schools in many border states have been destroyed by the infestation - counties have to pay to educate illegal kids who have NO business being in the country. There are even Mexican kids crossing the border every day in El Paso to go to USA schools. Mexican ambulances conmstantly drop off seriously ill mexicans at US border hospitals!! Imagine if the US did this!!!

The jobs myth is just that - and many of the mexican in building do a p!ss poor job. Illegals are often exploited - and that should stop. Jail the employers for 5 years each toime they’;re caught - it will stop. Illegals live 10 or even more to a house - destroying neighbourhoods and creating crime that was never there before. The social costs are endless - legalising 15 million plus ilegals plus allowing their immediate family in will destroy many parts of the USA.

Klinton’s labour certification “amnesty” was virtually IGNORED by mexicans - it was indians/pakis/afrikans/south americans and some euros etc who took advantage of this amnesty.

SEcuring the border and clearing out the illegals is the RIGHT AND DUTY of any govt - the mexicans do it always!!!

SO SHOULD WE!!!

The diseases some illegals bring in are a major problmer, espc TB and various trains of hepatitus. The goivt have NOP idea how many illegals are here - until they do chaos will reign. As will the crime wave … a non partisan group calculated that there are well over 250,000 illegal child molestors, this number was simply extrapolated by using the usual number of these sickos in the US population.

By getalife

May 17, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

My goodmess,

“lies”is really tweaking today

Meth kills loser.

By forcibly deport ALL illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

WEAK MINDED PANDERING dishonest SCUM LIKE CAMUS are a sick joke that social Darwinism should have already taken care of!!

ITS almost quite SAD REALLY - but unsurprising, poor old crackpipe - our resident racist whoralicious black blubbery slapper is getting ever more desperate to try and abuse its conservative betters … go kiss a hooded cobra crackpipe - WHO LOVES YA BABY??

By forcibly deport ALL illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

the greaseball illegal maggot brain is as ever unable to actually debate any points - just more of its pathetic G. SOREos sheeple like abuse!!

sod off back to Cuba maggot brain - there’s a good dog!!

By Out of the Box

May 17, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

As long as we are widening Peachtree to accomodate streetcars, sidewalks, and parks, why not include runways? Sure be cheaper to do it all at the same time rather than come back and do it later I say.

By Democrats are Pro-Life

May 17, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

Speaking of Giuliani, the former NYC mayor likes to brag about the drop in his city’s abortion rate during his tenure, but a review of the figures from Mr. Giuliani’s years as mayor, from 1994 to 2001, shows that although abortions did decline and adoptions did increase, the changes mirrored national trends. In fact, NYC’s abortion rate dropped less than the national average over his eight years in office.

As I recall, President Clinton was in the White House during most of Giuliani’s term as Mayor — further evidence that if you’re really pro-life and are serious about reducing the abortion rate in this country, then vote for a Democrat for President.

By No Mas

May 17, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

By Camus

May 17, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Van,

Wooten kited the immigrant issue in his column, and then it was picked up by your brother in arms TFTT. It is now a legit topic for discussion, so live with it.

Camus, Van is cognizent enough to know that this issue is a big loser for the republican party. He is at least smart enough to try to kill it, whereas the Bds/RWs/Luckosh&ts, Dustys, et al fall right into the trap, and proverbially drop trou and show their fat, nasty unwiped racist azzes, every time they open their mouths on the subject. Van knows that this issue causes cons to lose votes. Congratulations Van, you figured out the trap that Wooten set here.

By Politically Incorrect

May 17, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

On May 15, 2008, at the Republican Debates in South Carolina, Rudy Giuliani attacked Ron Paul’s statement that U.S. foreign policy perhaps contributed to the motivation for the 9-11 attacks as the most absurd thing he had ever heard and asked Dr. Paul to retract his comment. Dr. Paul stood his ground at the debate and later gave a solid defense of his statement to Sean Hannity in a post-debate interview which sent Hannity ballistic. Sean Hannity (narrowly informed on so many things but vocal on all) and Giuliani, are both ignorant of the 9-11 Commission report that supports Dr. Paul’s comments.

While it is one thing to hold a definite preference for one’s own country, religion, and form of government, working for, and negotiating favorable trade agreements and international cooperation in many areas, it is quite another to assume the role of “Decider” for the rest of the world. As Dr. Paul so clearly pointed out in the debate and subsequent interview, our elected leaders should consider the impact our foreign policy has on other nations and individuals prone to extreme behavior, asking, in effect: “What would we think or do if other countries presumed to occupy America, build military bases on our soil, and interfere with the operation of our country and its government.”

Not that any of this is in any way justification for the evil acts of 9-11, or any other terrorist act by any individual or nation. But an interventionist attitude by the greatest power on earth can certainly, in the minds of most reasonable people, be a catalyst provoking the extreme fringe and unbalanced to committing such atrocities.

By DawgBite

May 17, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

By forcibly deport ALL illegal Mexicans NOW

May 17, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

WEAK MINDED PANDERING dishonest SCUM LIKE CAMUS are a sick joke that social Darwinism should have already taken care of!!

Luckodull,you sorry little asexual worm of a man/woman/both. You are the poster child for how social Darwinism weeds em out. Go change your s**%y diapers you worthless little pole smoker.

By Captain Freedom

May 17, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

The Captain detects a trend in the argument from frenchy Camus, and sees clearly his Soros-defined agenda.

If we take his froggy lead, we would have to judge each choice we make on some set of values, rather than reacting instinctively to the actions of other people or nations. This will lead to a breakdown of our society, for it is clear that Our Values and Cherished Way of Life cannot survive a foolish adherence to some set of values that keep us from acting as necessary. It’s called making the hard choices, and proves that one is serious about fighting Islamoatheism in all its forms.

Yes, I am talking about torture.

Under the Gitane-sucker’s argument, the fact that torture exists in other parts of the world does not de facto confer on us the right to torture. Well, the Captain says that what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, if you get my drift.

But if that’s not good enough for the surrender monkey bedwetters, we can turn to the secular humanists’ best friend…situational ethics. Now I realize that this is shaky ground. But hear me out, because it works for Jack Bauer every week, and that’s proof enough of its worth.

So what would you do, Mr Camus, if your plane had crashed on a remote island that might or might not be purgatory and/or a big science experiment and/or a figment of your imagination, and on this island, along with a lot of improbably beautiful women, some polar bears, a smoke monster, and an army of natives who are constantly trying to kidnap your women and children, was a former member of the Iraqi Army who (let’s just say) knew how to use ‘enhanced techniques’ to get information — and if also on that island was a conman who had stashed all the medicine that was on your plane and was refusing to give it up to a girl having an asthma attack — and if you were a world-class surgeon with daddy issues who really, really wanted to save the day — would you sic the Iraqi torturer on the conman in order to get the girl’s inhaler?

See, it’s not so easy adhering to so-called “values” when a real-world situation like this one comes along.

So remain hale and hearty, True Beleivers. Sometimes we must violate our principles in order to preserve them.

And, yes, let’s start that forced deportation right away, or at least as soon as Pedro the Plumber finishes working out the problems with the pipes in Mrs Freedom’s vanity.

By death to supercilious brain dead liberals

May 17, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Luckodull,you sorry little asexual worm of a man/woman/both. You are the poster child for how social Darwinism weeds em out. Go change your s%y diapers you worthless little pole smoker.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

How quickly the thin veneer of glib, psuedo intellectualism peels off when the verminous liberal afterbirth are wittily and sententiously pilloried.

Our “resident” HAPPILY LONG DEAD oft mislabelled as an existentialist french algerian camel molestor urgently needs to feed the same desert graveyard worms its would be alter ego Camus is!!

By JohnD

May 17, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

The law of our land, we are a country of laws for you Libs, should be enforced.

I have personal knowledge of families divided when the parents were found here illegally and left for Canada until they could return legally. The parents returned and all are now legal residents or naturalized citizens.

We should not be in the position of deciding who will or will not be prosecuted for breaking the law. All who are here illegally should be sent out to return as the law provides. Any other treatment brings into question all of our laws and gives individuals the mindset to determine which laws are fair or unfair as their personal situation changes.

Respect for our laws should be the first thought instilled in immigrants from any country and as long as their first act on our soil is illegal you will see the rampant disrespect we currently experience.

The standard talking points are already evident in today’s posts:

They do jobs Americans will not - that is just nonsense and to suggest such is an insult to Americans.

Most pay taxes - that is untrue of the illegals and another “urban legend”.

By “ginned up stories” do you mean the illegal in Virginia with previous DUI’s who killed a teenage girl while DUI? He lived in a sanctuary city so he was never deported. I would like to see you try to sell the “ginned up” trash to that girl’s father.

Personally, as the father of a teen age girl I would love to have you try to sell that nonsense to me - face to face, man to man.

There are reports the illegals in the US kill more people every year, while driving drunk or committing other crimes, than the number of soldiers lost in Iraq since the beginning of the war.

You want the US out of Iraq so why do you want the illegals in the US?

How about someone so self-important they declare themselves the “real America”? Sounds like a Hillary clone.

Just so you do not label me one of your hated “neocons”, I do not see a Presidential candidate on either party’s slate. Certainly there are no statesmen(statespeople?).

By lance

May 17, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Is anybody interested in talking about if Georgia needs a second major airport and which location should it be in? Or does everyone just want to yap about race, immigration, and the liberal/conservative schism…since talking about the airport requires too much brainpower?

It seems it’s much easier for everyone here to retread their prejudices rather than think or discuss for a second.

Carry on with your silliness…

By lance

May 17, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

Is anybody interested in talking about if Georgia needs a second major airport and which location should it be in? Or does everyone just want to yap about race, immigration, and the liberal/conservative schism…since talking about the airport requires too much brainpower?

It seems it’s much easier for everyone here to retread their prejudices rather than think or discuss for a second.

Carry on with your silliness…

By Redneck Convert

May 17, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

Well, it looks like TFTT decided to take the day off and snort meth. He’s been ranting about the Mexicans all day. Its a shame England can’t send us some of their decent people.

My buddy Jim Earl showed me a print out of this Rudy Giuliani’s income last year. The guy made 11 million bucks just for giving speeches. Remember the traffic tie-ups when this big motivation seminar was held downtown? Well, Giuliani got 100,000 bucks ever time he went and spoke at one of them.

I say TFTT could be a rich man if he went and spoke in public. He could rant about the Mexicans and make everbody laugh at him. That way he could give up hanging around a blog all day with nothing else to do. He would be rich faster than Mitt Romney could double the size of Guantanomo Bay prison.

I feel sorry for Sister Dusty. Having TFTT praise her and all. Its like a prostitoot standing up and telling everbody how virtuous you are.

By Jack

May 17, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

DawgBite. People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

By DawgBite

May 17, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

Go suck on one Luckoworm. Then turn around and bend over cause you got a message coming in.

By Pat

May 17, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

Build the new airport in Gainesville so the illegals can get promoted from cutting chickens’ throats to bagage handlers. Then airfare may be as low as a KFC value meal. Where the next airport will be is the very least of our problems in this state and country. The Arabs will make that decision in due time.

By JohnD

May 17, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Lance,

I will offer on the airport.

Put the airport where the customers are and do not allow another situation like Hartsfield.

The current Atlanta airport is nothing more than a social program for the supporters and relatives of current and former mayors. The concurrent increase in costs for all services are passed on to the airlines and eventually to the travelers to support the deadbeats.

Back to location. While the Robins AFB suggestion sounds nice the 150 miles to the population north of Atlanta would be a problem.

There are a number of regional airports in North Goergia that could be adapted. I do not know for certain since I am neither a pilot nor an airplane enthusiast but there is certainly much land nearer the ultimate consumers than Middle Georgia.

By RCH

May 17, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

Lets put the airport where the customers are. Further north up 400.This airport could be used for international flights only with a connection to Hartsfield by the existing Marta line.