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DEL.ICIO.USGloom, doom on PeachCare exaggerated
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
“It causes death, my friends.”
That’s it.
Modify in the slightest a government program that didn’t exist in Georgia at all a dozen years ago and the consequence will be, in the worldview of state Rep. Lester Jackson (D-Savannah), children flunking and dropping out of school and worse.
“Recently in Maryland there was a young boy [who] died of a dental infection,” said Jackson during a legislative debate on PeachCare. “Do we need this to happen in Georgia? What would happen if vision and dental care would be eliminated? You have a decreased reading comprehension in our classrooms, a loss of school days because of dental pain, unnecessary pain and suffering for our children, for our working families, and also death because of infection.”
Until one listens to the full debate on how best to frame high-cost government social programs, like PeachCare, it’s easy to forget just how far to the left the Democratic Party in Georgia has drifted. This is not the party of Joe Frank Harris or of mainstream Georgia. The rhetoric employed to oppose legislation that would modestly rein in costs is so outlandish and absurd that one wonders what’s left to say this side of calamity.
The proposal for PeachCare that “causes death, my friends” would allow the Department of Community Health to charge an additional premium the bill’s author, House Speaker Glenn Richardson (R-Hiram) projects at $5 to $10 a month for dental and vision coverage. It’s now provided free by taxpayers.
The bill would, too, allow the board to adjust future eligibility to a range of 185 to 225 percent of the federal poverty level, and to fix it now at 200 percent, down from 235. Importantly, however, no child currently on the program would lose eligibility. For a family of three, the new income limit would be $34,340, down from $40,350. The bill is still alive, but was not resolved on the final legislative day.
The program required an $81 million infusion of cash, which was included in the unvetoed budget. The feds may or may not provide reimbursement, in full or part. Congress has it tied up in its Iraqi war games.
This Georgia debate goes to the heart of the two parties’ approach to government. It’s precisely why a Republican majority that shows flashes of conservatism needs to coalesce under the Gold Dome. Those who have no clue as to what they’re trying to do with government, or why, simply cannot bring change, no matter how essential, in the face of “death, my friends” hyperbole. And once conservatives start picking up that language for each other, all is lost.
On PeachCare, Richardson, in one of those flashes of purposeful conservatism, stood his ground. Said he: “This program was started as a block grant [by Congress] and [they] told us to set the rules. There were no rules. So the people that are now telling you we shouldn’t change the rules are the ones that set the rules that put the program in place and ran it out of money. And it is time to make a decision. Do you want to rein in this program and provide it to those that need it? … ” Said the speaker, too:
“This is a reasonable, measured response to reel in a program that was out of control, that a member of this body signed up a quarter-horse for and got a temporary ID number just three weeks ago. Because it was so easy, he just went online and punched in a name and you’ve got PeachCare. Anybody can get PeachCare. If you are not a U.S. citizen, it’s OK.
“And by the way, you don’t have to take your Social Security number. Now if that’s the kind of program you want, that’s what you had … ” The department is now being required to verify income and citizenship.
“All I’ve heard is how terrible it will be if we restrain spending just a little bit … In all the arguments … against this bill, not one of them talked about the taxpayers of this state who have to work for three and four months out of the year to pay for children to have health insurance.”
The conservative approach should be to create programs on a small scale, examine results to see what works and what undesirable behaviors have been unintentionally induced, and to make changes. That never happens. But it should.
Last week a Congressional Budget Office report found that the parents of as many as half the children enrolled in programs like PeachCare dropped private insurance coverage and shifted them to the taxpayer-subsidized plans. Democrats in Congress want to double the spending recommended by the Bush administration, to $75 billion over five years.
Conservatives create and examine. Liberals create and expand.
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By jbmlaw
May 15, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. The leftist argument demanding coverage for children is phony, but perhaps the best way to smoke out the deception would be to cover children, and to exclude anyone over age 16 from any state-subsidized coverage for anything. Exclude emergency room coverage when the diagnosis is anything other than being hit by a car or gun-blast. This is nothing more than typical leftist corporate welfare, compulsory taxpayer subsidization of the inflated salaries of the medical industry. Until conservative demand an end to corporate welfare, the leftists will continue to spend. I am encouraged to see Mr. Richardson’s lucidity on the issue.
Special note to my friend Dusty – I did not get to read the blog yesterday until late last night, after a long day. The leftist name-jacker did a pretty good imitation of me in his clever effort to disparage your intelligence. Fooled all of the chattering class as they listen to words, but you called the Deceiver a “fraud” when you saw the absence of thought. High risk for you, since you were the target – you risked public humiliation. Most impressive. The great irony, the Deceiver attempted to prove you dumb, but the leftists were the only suckers, and the Deceiver proved your genius. I laughed all night, well-done. Had I been blessed with a daughter, I would have wanted one with your wisdom – no less than that of Daniel in the book of Susannah.
By Rick
May 15, 2007 8:12 AM | Link to this
PeachCare has too many loopholes.
Income should be verified by checking federal and/or state tax returns. Too many families that run businesses have their children on PeachCare. They can’t afford insurance but they can afford a late model BMW and a Lexus SUV in the driveway of their $350,000 home.
Only US citizens and legal residents should be eligible.
By GodHatesTrash
May 15, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this
Life has always been cheap in Georgia. Georgia life spans are still some of the lowest in the nation and the industrialized West. Violent crime, murder, incest, rape, STDs, obesity, alcoholism - all higher than average in Georgia.
Redneck trash like Wooten and his Klan want to make it even cheaper.
Yes, we are dealing with a degenerate culture in the 13th state - the degeneracy of the slavers and debtors that made up the Georgia colony haunt the state to this day. So perhaps Wooten is right - let the citizens of the state live out their pauperism, their blight, their mean and narrow lives, and hope they die young before they hurt others any more than they already have.
God takes out the trash. I just wish He would make more regular pickups.
So I guess I agree with Jim today.
By Pompano
May 15, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this
What really burns me is when the AJC refers to PeachCare as “Insurance for working people” when even the examples they cover in their articles prove otherwise. The people of GA (and fortunately our Republican officials) are not falling for this ruse. PeachCare is nothing more than insurance for people having children that they cannot afford (and fathers who do not pay child-support). We are simply promoting irresponsibility and laziness. With these types of role models, the children are most likely to turn out like their worthless parents.
By DebbieDoRight
May 15, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this
i have decided to use my new phrase that I picked up from a poster here a few days ago, buck dancing.
Wooten, why all this buck dancing around the facts? There was nothing wrong with PeachCare and it wasn’t in jeopardy until SonnyDoo (Like ScoobyDoo), decided to screw with it and then screwed it up,(sounds familiar?). You are still trying to promote the fallacy that Republicans are Fiscal Conservatives; why don’t you just give up? Stop the ridiculous assertions and face the facts and give Sonny another Scooby snack, (some more cheap government land he can buy and then sell to the highest bidder).
By Mid-South Philosopher
May 15, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this
I have no mecy for the corporatist health care providers (not to be confused with doctors, nurses, and other health care workers, who with the exception of a few prima donnas are victims as well)as we move to national health care.
The drug companies, the corporate hospital and medical center giants and other elements of the medical equation have made a tremendous sh**pot full of money off the insurance companies and those individuals who can afford to pay. Their profits far exceed any losses to indigent care. The taxpayers take care of that.
So to the corporatists…go ahead on boys and girls…enjoy the ride. Your gravy train is about to come to an end.
Sad part is, like always, the middle class and the working poor will be the ones who get the shaft without Vaseline with the coming national health care debacle.
By WTF??
May 15, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this
This disgusts me!!! Our most ignorant (Republican) president can spend over a trillion dollars on an even more ignorant war, but we can’t allocate a few million for the healthcare of our kids?!!! Such ignorance should be illegal!!!!!!
By Passing the Buck
May 15, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this
True to form, Jim tries to shirk Republican responsibility for anything and blame Democrats. But if the program was “out of control” with no verification of income or citizenship that is the fault of Perdue, not Democrats. Perdue is in his fifth year as Governor and the program has been administered by one of his agencies. Why didn’t they check these things and why does Jim not hold the Governor accountable? The solution to mismanagement by the Governor is not to bar eligible children from the program, it is to get a Governor who can manage the program correctly.
By Tech Fan!
May 15, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this
The poster who said that the people on PeachCare were lazy, what a crock!! The people on PeachCare are working poor, assinine! That means they get up every day and go to work. And YES their salaries are checked out before they can get on PeachCare — the state simply has to press a button and pull up their State Tax registry.
By Dennis
May 15, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this
Rather than title this column, “Thinking Right”, it would be better named “Wooten’s Complaints”, as that is about all he ever does - especially when it comes to putting taxpayer money into the practice of “Love thy neighbor as thyself”.
Which is a command, not a request.
On a divergent note, recently I read an interview of Andrew J. Bacevich, a retired military colonel and outspoken critic of the Iraq war. The article is probably the best balanced on the Iraq war of any I have read or heard. If you can find this edition of “The Sun”, March, 2007, at your local newsstand, I recommend it.
It’s certainly better than the spun trash you’re going to get from this column as to why we should continue to lose American soldiers and why Bush should be supported in Iraq.
Col. Bacevich also has a recent book, “The New American Militarism: How Americans Are Seduced …”
Interesting how many military people are opposed to the Iraq war, but the mainstream media conveniently, and pretty consistantly, screens their views out.
Yesterday, Col. (and professor) Bacevich lost his son in Iraq.
Bring our military home. Now.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By Sonny's Doo List
May 15, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this
Lazy PeachCare people?
Gwinnett and Cobb ranked #1 and 2 in PeachCare enrollment.
Why are Cobb countians so lazy?
By Dusty
May 15, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw@ 8:05,
My thanks to you, kind sir. To be credited with wisdom is the best compliment of all. For it to be said by a wise one himself is even better.
This is going to be a pleasant day and you have made it even better. I depart to a morning conference with happiness and sunshine. Your good will is appreciated.
By Curious Observer
May 15, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this
Importantly, however, no child currently on the program would lose eligibility.
Ah, yes, let’s just allow future children to suffer from medical neglect. We’ll make the cuts more palatable by grandfathering in the present children. It’s all so typical of the knuckle-dragging Republican legislature—a cynical ploy.
And I’m sure that for Wooten and his Klan—including the sycophant Dusty, the heartless jbmlaw, and the ever-regressive Van—the $5 or $10 per month and the lowering of income level for eligibility are only mild restrictions. They don’t have to feed, clothe, and shelter a family of three on a before-tax income of $40,000.
It was Sonny Purdue who fooled with Peachcare in the first place. Now, like a miscreant child, he goes hat in hand to Congress to get bailed out. His act is an example of Republican intransigence, not fiscal prudence. Strange how he somehow finds money for Georgia to Go Fishing.
If there is no bread, let them eat cake, right, Wooten? Dusty? jbmlaw? Van? John D? I suppose it’s time for you to go to your churches and congratulate yourselves on the fiscal discipline you’ve imposed on the poor. Afterwards, you can grab your rods and reels and head to the river.
By scott
May 15, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this
“It’s Clinton’s fault” :)
By Truthsayer
May 15, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this
God Hates Trash - no he doesn’t since he does not consider any of his creations trash.
Sonny Doo list - I guess it’s all of those Democrats who have moved in to those counties over the last 17 years. The same thing happened to Clayton county too.
By deegee
May 15, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this
“Conservatives create and examine. Liberals create and expand.”
Except when it comes to war. Any examination of the war debacle in Iraq is paramount to treason in the eyes of our compassionate conservatives.
By James (P.E.)
May 15, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this
“Conservatives create and examine. Liberals create and expand.”
Exactly what is wrong with either? Innovation, development and progress would never occur without either style. Heaven knows where we would be if ideals were not tested or tested and not expanded.
Jim, what’s your point?
By GodHatesTrash
May 15, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
Cobb Countians are not lazy - they are very busy alcoholics, drug addicts, wife beaters, porn peddlers, lapdancers, prostitutes, single moms and dads - animals raising animals. Their myriad social dysfunctions and chaos-based society becomes a burden to public decency.
Intergenerational poverty - inbreeding - family violence - superstitious redneck culture - hatred and suspicion of schools (and edumacation), government, and true community - cannot be overcome with a bandaid like Peachcare.
Nothing short of taking these poor unfortunate children away from their parents can truly make a difference. Wooten might be right - let Social Darwinism take over even more, stunt the already stunted lives of the typical southron. Indeed, one could argue it might even be criminal to offer people mired in a hopeless gutter culture the illusion of hope and phony caring.
By Van
May 15, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this
Without income verification, it is a sink hole.
Anyway, if I am at 200% of the federal poverty level, why am I eligible for anything?
By LMAO
May 15, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this
Yes Truthsayer in your little Republican fantasyland is it only poor minorities on PeachCare.
The fact is there are just as many REPUBLICAN FAMILIES benefiting from PeachCare. I personally know of white Republicans taking advantage of the program. Bet when you Republicans sign up its not welfare is it?
“Conservatives create and examine. Liberals create and expand.”
Bizarre. How can the 50 liberals that live in Georgia have all this power?
By Katharine Otto, MD
May 15, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
I am a practicing psychiatrist who plans to retire my medical license when it expires. Why? The health care system is a fraud, and doctors have become glorified drug dealers, patient-churning, prescription-writing machines, fronts for government, insurance, and the pharmaceutical companies. As long absentee bosses dictate treatment, they should write the prescriptions and assume the risks. I’ve come to believe we should abolish all drug laws, because the only difference between good drugs and bad drugs is legality. If you don’t own your own body, who owns you? We all know what that’s called.
PeachCare is insurance only, a huge scam to fund insurance companies and the Department of Community Health, which has almost twice the budget of the Department of Human Resources. We have created an enormous bureaucracy to limit access to affordable medical care. Those who are most hurt are the ones who can’t jump through the right hoops and negotiate the bureaucratic run-arounds to get the simple, preventative care that would avert so many of the crises we see today.
By getalife
May 15, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
The missing billions in Iraq would of paid for this program for many years.
They will show Jim this drivel when they send him to hell.
By deegee
May 15, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this
Examine this, gas is averaging $3.15 a gallon and going up. The oil companies blame “public policy” for not having enough supply to fill demand. It’s all our fault just like it’s the fault of the lazy working slobs of this country that can’t afford $400.00 a month for health insurance for their family.
By Pompano
May 15, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
Bottom line is that if you cannot afford the child, then don’t have it - or in the case of most PeachCare parents don’t have the second, third, fourth… kid.
We are empowering irresponsible people to continue their behavior.
By Redneck Convert
May 15, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this
Well, the state shouldn’t be using my tax dollars to pay for the medicine of Those People. All you get for that is more of Those People that live longer and vote for libruls. Its all this welfare that caused our two house seats to be took away from us and give to Those People.
Of course, its diffrent in the case of my dotter and my grandson little Sonny Zell George. The county can pay for their medicine because they are good white conservatives. You can bet they won’t vote for libruls.
I can’t make out what this GodHatesTrash is saying. Seems like to me he don’t like us rednecks. If it wasn’t for us rednecks people like him would be running GA and we would be in a fine fix then. They would be taxing our toilet breaks.
Old Sonny got it right. Cut this Peach Care stuff and use the money for fishing. You never see any of Those People with a fishing pole. Its about the only place where its not running over with Those People trying to butt in and act like they are equal to the rest of us. That and NASCAR races.
Well, I got to take a break from the beer run to go down to the Church of Holiness. I’m part of a group that is planning the big revival meeting. The theme this year is Brotherly Love.
By harold
May 15, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
Gwinnett and Cobb ranked #1 and 2 in PeachCare enrollment because Gwinnett and Cobb rank #1 in the number of children. Duh.
Back to the dating blog for Harold. Far more relevancy over there.
By jbmlaw
May 15, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
Dear Dennis @ 8:59, actually Max Boot has a well-balanced essay on Iraq online today @ http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110010077. Warning, you will not like it. Extraordinarily few military people oppose fighting the terrorists in Iraq – it is mostly the Surrendercrats who prefer to give al Qaeda time to rest and recover in Iraq. The war will go on either way – remember, the bad guys attacked here first. I understand you prefer to fight here, with civilians - “Mr. President, I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks” - rather than there, with the military.
Dear Curious @ 9:18, to address the substance of your argument, such as it is, we all must choose between “heartless” and “brainless” – nobody will ever call you “heartless,” and I will defend you against that charge to the end of the earth. I occasionally note that a small subdivision of our leftist friends – whom I affectionately term the “moonbats” – spew over matters unworthy of, or at least highly disproportionate to, the rational merits of the subject. My hero, Tom Sowell, currently has a darkly-funny essay on that passion, http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2007/05/15/theangeroftheleft Chairman Ann would have been pleased with herself if she had written it.
Dear Katherine @ 9:41, your argument is brilliant and efficient, and I wish I had written it, except I lack your inside view. If, in your retirement, you determine to stand for public office, remind me that I intend to support your candidacy.
By Be senseable
May 15, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
Some people more then we thank don’t have children they can’t afford. They may have had a good job paying good money at one time til some greedy company that pays its exec six figure plus salaries come along and cut that family’s job to turn a profit instead on earning that profit. Now that family don’t have health care and don’t have a job to afford it. Sometimes people get into situations they have no control of just like bankrupt companies that sometimes get government help. How is it ok in the eyes of conservatives for corporations to get help but children can’t. Conservatives are showing where their true charity is and its not with the poor.
By jm
May 15, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this
jbmlaw@11:35 - it was al queda in Afghanistan, not Iraq that attacked the U.S. While I am sure al queda had a presence in Iraq prior to the U.S. invasion and occupation, it was a small one. Saddam, like most dictators, did not suffer rivals to his power.
By The Truth Hurts
May 15, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this
but you called the Deceiver a “fraud” when you saw the absence of thought.
jbmlaw, you sound as though you are struck on yourself about as much as Pillhead Limbaugh (Do you know anybody else that calls himself a “legend”?)
High risk for you, since you were the target – you risked public humiliation.
Public humiliation? On a blog? Where nobody knows who you are? Talk about absence of thought!!
and the Deceiver proved your genius
Genius? The bar must really be low if that is all it takes.
I laughed all night
You need to get out more to get some entertainment.
Had I been blessed with a daughter, I would have wanted one with your wisdom
How mushy. I don’t know who tries to kiss butt more - you to Dusty or Dusty to Wooten.
By Jack
May 15, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this
Van had it right. No income verification makes it a sinkhole. A whole lot of people know how to work the system and do it with zeal. I worked with a piece of scum a few years back. He was making over $700.00 a week but lived in public housing. He said all his wife had to do was claim desertion and magic! Free rent, food stamps, power and all the cash he was making was paying for toys. Same with Peachcare. There are many self employed people on Peachcare who live the high life but are able to hide thier money and we pay for their child’s care. Wonderful.
By Van
May 15, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
jm
I guess you forgot the old middle-eastern saying, something like, The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
By jm
May 15, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
I wonder if the folks who say “people who cannot afford kids should not have them” are also pro life. It is a sad statistic that economic reasons are one of the most common reasons women give for having an abortion.
By Pompano
May 15, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
jm
Why is that a sad statistic? It demonstrates responsibility (albiet after the fact). Much more preferred than dumping the kid on the government & taxpayers to take care of the off-spring.
By Jack
May 15, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
Yes jm it is sad. Should we force those who cannot afford children to have them anyway? We can pay for it.
By jm
May 15, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this
van - I am quite familiar with that saying. Which is why I am not worried about al queda taking over when the US pulls out of Iraq.
By @@
May 15, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this
Well Jim, the word expanding behind Liberals caught my eye. It’s so much easier for Democrats to sit and do nothing isn’t it?
Take a look at Arnold’s fit">http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=74966">fit and trim program for California.
Next thing you know, the liberals will be calling him “The Terminator”.
After reading all the liberal wailings here, I’m wondering if they even bothered to read your article.
$10 max for vision care!!!
but then they’re so eager to have their teeth fall out before posting here, it must be a difficult decision for them.
Gummers! That pretty much defines the liberal Democrats.
See ‘ya Jim.
By @@
May 15, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
Let’s try that link again.
Go west young man.
Now you see me; now you don’t Jim.
By jbmlaw
May 15, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this
Dear Truth @ 11:50, nobody will call you heartless.
By DawgBite
May 15, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
By jm
May 15, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
I wonder if the folks who say “people who cannot afford kids should not have them” are also pro life. It is a sad statistic that economic reasons are one of the most common reasons women give for having an abortion.
jm, you have good point. Of course using conservative logic, since they are totally against government dispensing birth control to the po folk so they don’t get pregnant, their answer to that is probably that they should not be having sex anyway. Don’t you know that only the monied should be entitled to sex and children.
By harold
May 15, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this
Gonzales to Congress:
THE BUCK STOPS RIGHT BELOW ME.
Wow he should run for the Republican ticket on Presidential office next time. Get rid of him and Sunni Perdue on the same ticket.
By harold
May 15, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
harold says “people who cannot afford kids should not have them”
harold says they should be put in prison if the public has to pay for their spawn
harold says abortions not college should be free for the asking to all Georgians with a B average (formerly known as F)
By harold
May 15, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this
Harold says this site http://www.armyofgod.com/ will put you in touch with a good abortion clinic if you need one!!!!!
By harold
May 15, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this
ok back to the dating blog for harold. gotta see if harold can make one more solider for the army of god
By Dennis
May 15, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this
By jbmlaw May 15, 2007 11:35 AM Dear Dennis @ 8:59,”… actually Extraordinarily few military people oppose fighting the terrorists in Iraq….”
You would be more correct if you said that no one in the military nor any American citizens opposes fighting terriorism - wherever it may be found, including our own government and beginning with the present “president” and his policies to lock down on the freedoms of American citizens via the “Patriot Act(s)”.
As to Iraq, that continues to be the big lie that it was from the beginning and is exposed more so each day- or haven’t you been keeping up for the past five years?
As to those military personnel past and present who are opposing the Iraq war, wouldn’t you just like to think there are only a few.
But, I’ll tell you something, buddy, if I had to go to court and you were the lawyer for my opposition, if what you post on here is the best you’ve got, I’ll represent myself in court and will win my case.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By LMAO
May 15, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this
The point is not “$10 for vision.”
The point is the Republicans had a chance to fix something that was broken and did nothing about it. Now Jim writes his column that basically blames “liberals.” But what this really boils down to is REPUBLICAN leadership, or the lack of it.
Governor, Senate, House. All in the hands of Republicans.
Wasn’t it a REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR begging Washington for funds to CONTINUE the program?
Didn’t the REPUBLICAN Georgia legislature just waste an opportunity to tweak the eligibility? Add income verification? End the program?
Rep. Lester Jackson (D-Savannah) has absolutely no power in modern Georgia right now, remember?
The Republicans sure do.
By Redneck Convert
May 15, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this
Well, the Revrend Jerry Falwell is in the hospitle in “gravely serious condition,” so I guess the right thing for us Right Thinkers to do is pay no attention to the libruls on this blog and get down on our knees and pray like it was the middle of a revival. I don’t know what we will do if we lose him. Of course, there’s always Dobson and Rush and Sean. And Newt.
By JK
May 15, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this
What is it now? $8 BILLION PER MONTH in Iraq?
Yeah, sure Mr. Wooten… definitely let the children whose fathers abandon them suffer from preventable and curable ailments. We have to draw the line somewhere after all, and blaming the children themselves is a great place to start. You “good christian conservatives” make me want to hurl. How do you sleep at night? Oh yes, if you have insurance, you can afford the Ambien. Please quadruple the recommended dosage tonight!
By James (P.E.)
May 15, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this
Redneck,
He’s gone home to glory.
By melo
May 15, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this
@jbmlaw, time to change your diapers.
By The Truth Hurts
May 15, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this
Not quite, RC.
Rush, Sean & Newt already have reservations in Hades when their end comes. Rush & Sean will be in charge of distributing propaganga for the Big Man in Red, while Newt will be in charge of training those who want to have an affair, while at the same time chastizing others who are also having affairs. In other words, he will be Head of Hypocrisy.
It’s called Republican Leadership.
By getalife
May 15, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this
“I really believe that the Pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians, … the ACLU, People For the American Way - all of them who have tried to secularize America - I point the finger in their face and say ‘you helped this [terrorist attack: 9/11] happen.” Jerry Falwell, 700 Club, 2001-SEP-13.
†
By harold
May 15, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
sounds like ole Jerry did not collect enough money this year and Jesus really did call him Home! Harold thought Falwell was bluffing about that but apparently it was true! Should’ve sent him some money. Harold wonders if his gay prostitute Ben got paid before Jerry died or if Ben had to get the money out of Jerry’s wallet himself. You KNOW they were a couple. You’ve heard of them.
By Dennis
May 15, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this
By Redneck Convert May 15, 2007 1:32 PM “Well, the Revrend Jerry Falwell is in the hospitle in “gravely serious condition,” so I guess the right thing for us Right Thinkers to do is pay no attention to the libruls on this blog and get down on our knees and pray like it was the middle of a revival. I don’t know what we will do if we lose him. Of course, there’s always Dobson and Rush and Sean. And Newt.”
He ought to send for Oral Roberts, a “hands on” healer…. “Heal….Heal….Heal….” Of course to make it work, Falwell will have to stand up so that when Roberts says “HEAL”, Falwell can fall backwards and be caught by some of his supporters. Healed? Of course!
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By death to liberal scum
May 15, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this
RIP Rev J Falwell … whilst as a proud secular anti-religion traditional conservative I stood against his superstitious religious dogma, for whatever its worth I actually liked Falwell. He was a decent, always cheery, affable bloke who well understood the corrosive cancer of the leftist cut and run moral relativistic enemy within. He bravely faced down the hysterical screeching queers, the perfidious cowardly pinkos and the baby butchering partial birth abortion loving feminazis.
Damn shame he had to die and the treasonous liberal scum on the Senate Judiciary Committee are still slithering around.
By Captain Freedom
May 15, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this
The Captain is saddened to report that the Rev Jerry Falwell, one of the truly great White Christian Americans, has passed on to his greater reward.
While regular readers know that the Captain came this close to attending Duke University, his lack of financial backing (coupled with low grades and scores) combined with Reverse Discrimination against White Males forced him to seek another route to Higher Learning. In fact, that route led straight to Lynchburg and Liberty University. It was a fateful turn that was to change the Captain’s life forever.
Whilst at Liberty U. (we like words like ‘whilst’, and lots of ‘thees’ and ‘thous’), the Captain took a double major in Denouncing Fornicators and Scourging Blasphemers. During this time, I had the pleasure of Rev Falwell’s company many times. I remain in awe of his sheer capacity.
He was a huge man, a giant among those of mortal girth, and he only grew greater with each passing day. But that is mere hagiography. What is important is what he taught me…that God only allows bad things to happen when he is deeply, deeply angered with us.
So, it is clear today that the Godless liberals, queers, Islamofascists, and peoples of Dusky Hue have angered Our Lord to the extent that he took his Chosen representative to come home to him, to sit at his Left Hand and serve as Judge of Humanity, as he has done so ably whilst on this mortal coil.
So, for the rest of today, in honor of the Right Reverend, let’s all take a moment to post our notion of what the Islamoliberalqueerdarkies have done to anger god.
Personally, I feel it is the conscienceless persecution of the Godly Monica Goodling and Alberto Gonzales.
Liberals…if you have any decency, you will not post anymore today, on this day of national mourning.
The Captain, bathed in tears of grief, thanks you.
By Redneck Convert
May 15, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
Well, the one I feel most sorry for is old Newt. Here he was, all set up to be innerduced by the Revrend Falwell and get the blessing for his run for president. And now he will have to be innerduced by a nobody. Only the Revrend Falwell coulda explained how it was all right for Newt to be porking some woman not his wife while leading the charge of adultry against Slick Willie. You see, when its a Republican it ain’t really adultry, we call it something else. And besides, it has the Divine Blessing.
I’m right ashamed of these folks making fun of the Revrend Falwell when the poor man is barely beginning to toast—I mean, enter the Pearly Gates. And he didn’t even live long enough to see My President appoint another Supreme Court justice that could have got rid of abortion oncet and for all. I ain’t got the heart to tell poor Sister Dusty about his death. She will just moan and groan and be all heartbroke. I hope she don’t accuse the Revrend of cutting and running.
By jm
May 15, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this
it has been several years now but if you ever get a chance to watch a rerun of the Jerry Falwell - larry Flynt debates, I would recommend it.
By @@
May 15, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
LYAO @ 1:26:
You being a liberal democrat, you should probably laugh more often, what with your “expansion” problem and all.
The fact that all the liberals here “dropped their teeth” at the mere possibility of $10 for vision care was MY point.
By catlady
May 15, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this
Most folks have problems with Peachcare because of the problems with lack of income verification and the idea it covers kids for free for 6 years and only then starts to charge, and the idea that you can make $48,000 for 4 people and still qualify—That is not Working Poor—, and the idea that businesses are shifting more of the burden for their employees onto the taxpayers. I like the idea of discouraging folks (up to 50% acc to the Congressional Budget Office) who drop their employers’ health care to let the taxpayers pay for it by having a year or more waiting period before the child can qualify for Peachcare. Of course, then you would have more parents quitting their jobs and getting another to “save” their money. I know health insurance is expensive: as a single parent of 3 I have paid it for 21 years now! And I pay for other kids also via Medicaid and Peachcare. Talk about double dipping into my purse! Peachcare, like other things, is now entrenched as an easy giveaway. Until it is tightened up, you’ll hear more about it from quite a lot of conservatives and moderates who stress personal responsibility.
By GodHatesTrash
May 15, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this
Looks like the Good Lord finally made a long overdue trash pickup.
The Good Reverend ought to be screaming in the Fires of Hell right about now…
By Trista
May 15, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this
Ding Dong! The Son of a B*** is dead. Which old Son of a B***? The Wicked … I mean … out of respect for the inconsolable Captain Freedom, this liberal will not be posting for the rest of the day.
By jbmlaw
May 15, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this
Dear Melo @ 1:46, an unusually articulate post for you, my compliments.
Certainly the other moonbats post their usual leftist-sensitive posts on the death of Dr. Falwell – that’s why you are respected and admired the way you are.
By jbm fan
May 15, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this
jbmlaw @3:21, an unusually articulate post for you — brevity suits you — not as much as silence — but, an improvement. My compliments.
By LMAO
May 15, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this
Actually @@ I wasn’t responding to you. I specifically responded to Jim’s column!
Go back and read MY point.
By JK
May 15, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this
O Captain, my Captain! I shall honor your request, Sir, and once again thank you for your eloquence.
By Glad he's dead
May 15, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
I hope Falwell is enjoying his first day in hell. Hopefully Dobson and the rest of the theocrats aren’t far behind.
By @@
May 15, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
LYAO @ 3:34:
Shoulda…woulda…coulda????
It’s a possibility, I’ll give you one.
I’ve got plenty.
By getalife
May 15, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
“AIDS is not just God’s punishment for homosexuals; it is God’s punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals” “It appears that America’s anti-Biblical feminist movement is at last dying, thank God, and is possibly being replaced by a Christ-centered men’s movement which may become the foundation for a desperately needed national spiritual awakening.” “If you’re not a born-again Christian, you’re a failure as a human being.” After the September 11 attacks Falwell said, “I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say ‘you helped this happen.” “Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions” “[Homosexuals are] brute beasts…part of a vile and satanic system [that] will be utterly annihilated, and there will be a celebration in heaven.”
By James (P.E.)
May 15, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
I can’t rejoice in the death of the man. Its not like he was Bin Laden, or Hitler..more like Rush, Sean or David Duke. I only regret not knowing which repubic hair he was going to endorse.
By harold
May 15, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this
Was Falwell’s wife hot? Is she available now? What about Mark Taylor’s wife? She probably dumped his useless fat arse by now. There’s tons of guys out there making 100K who aren’t morbidly obese cokehead jackasses.
By Commander Guy
May 15, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this
There’s tons of guys out there making 100K who aren’t morbidly obese cokehead jackasses.
Like Bill Bennett and Rush Limbaugh?
By harold
May 15, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
no, those are morbidly obese cokehead jackasses!
By Commander Guy
May 15, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
Oh. I thought they were more oxy/viagra kind of guys, and not so much for the nose candy.
By jbmlaw/Dusty/Van
May 15, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this
The disparity between rich and poor, black and white, women and men, can all be solved with some tough-love and rededicating oneself to the rampant pursuit of one’s own self interest.
By Yep
May 15, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this
The disparity between rich and poor, black and white, women and men, can all be solved with some tough-love and rededicating oneself to the rampant pursuit of one’s own self interest.
Just like the good reverend did. Makes you wonder about the size of his estate. Making people hate themselves is quite profitable here in these united states. Amen to self interest.
By Christian Ethic
May 15, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this
There can be no question that Jerry Falwell is burning in hell right now. One must never profit from the word of God.
Proof? Dig this: God offered Jesus Christ crucifixion. Satan offered Christ the world. See the diff? These preachers who get rich are the first ones greeting new devils into hell.
If the devil were to appear among us, he would wear a christian cloak and lead a congregation to believe that you must pray for yourself and tithe so that you may be rewarded materially.
Prayers for yourself are prayers to satan. Never pray for yourself.
Want to impress God? Pray for your enemies. Pray for those from whom you couldn’t possibly profit.
Begone satan.
I SAID BEGONE!!!!
By Christian Ethic
May 15, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this
I SAID BEGONE SATAN!!!
By G.
May 16, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this
I’m sick of Repubicans blaming Democrats and vice versa! Having worked in State government for over 30 years I can honestly say there is enough blame for all. I think Jim is dead on with regards to PeachCare and so is Richardson. I remember when Medicaid only had a handful of staff administering it on the state level . . now there are over 400 staff. Why because it has expanded to cover everybody and their brother. There are all kinds of Medicaid waiver programs… . hence the huge roles. Like Medicaid it is out of control!! There are far more people receiving help that don’t need help than those who truly do. Stop pointing fingers. Both parties have had a share in creating this debacle!!!