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Virginia Tech; senior taxes; black males

Thinking Right’s free-for-all Friday. Pick a topic:

• Sexual abstinence classes don’t work, critics contend. Their view gained some support when a research group examined four classes and found no dramatic difference in those who attended and those who didn’t. So drop them, right? Definitely not. Government has an obligation, as does the middle class, churches and the entertainment industry, to discourage some behaviors and encourage others.

• Not surprising, prisoners object to a reduction in daily calories, down 130 to 2,900 for men and down 250 to 2,200 for women. It’s being done to improve their health. Taxpayers spent $163 million on inmate health care. But … if those behind bars made good choices in their lives, chances are they wouldn’t be where they are.

• If we wish to stop taxing one segment of the population, airline passengers, for the benefit of another, small airports used by private jets, let’s do it. But while we’re at it, we should also stop taxing the poor suckers who rent automobiles at Atlanta airport over a 42-year period starting in 1996 for the benefit of a downtown sports facility they are unlikely ever to use.

• During a three-year World War II pen-pal relationship, Mildred Denman fell in love with British sailor Arthur Earnshaw. Their marriage lasted 61 years, until death parted them. There’s something to be said for slow mail, anticipation of correspondence and long reflective waits. Text messaging produces hook-ups. Chat rooms, trouble. Slow mail, seriousness. Arthur died in 2005, Mildred last week.

• Being in the company of Ralph McGill is high honor, indeed. My colleague, Cynthia Tucker, is there, winner of this year’s Pulitzer Prize for commentary. From any vantage point, left or right, her’s is a lifetime achievement. Congratulations, and well-deserved.

• In its annual “State of the Black Male,” the National Urban League offered up an array of government “solutions” for the education, employment, crime and violence problems of black males. One that didn’t occur to them was to lead the charge for marriage, so that babies enter the world with a mother and a father in the home.

• No form of gun control would have prevented the Virginia Tech murders. Every tragedy involving guns becomes a launch for anti-gun agendas, even when the dots don’t connect. America simply cannot make every potential target secure.

• Sudan agrees to accept another 3,000 U.N. and African Union troops to stop the bloodshed and protect 2.5 million people in Darfur, though it could be six months before they get there. U.N. officials are hoping the force will eventually total 22,000, though nobody’s holding their breath. Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden would send American troops. “I think it’s a moral imperative,” he said. It is. For the world community. The United States is not the world’s policeman. No American security interests are at stake here.

• Eliminating retirees state income taxes appeals. So, too, does anything that allows me to keep more of my money. With every choice, however, elected officials ought to be able to articulate clearly why one group of taxpayers is preferred over another and what desirable public policy objective is being advanced. The goal here, I suppose, is to get financially independent oldsters to move to Georgia, thereby, stabilizing rural towns and counties. If so, limit it to poor counties, those that aren’t growing, or those south of Atlanta and west of the coast.

• Openness leads to accountability which leads to better government. The pork kingpin who now chairs the U.S. Senate Appropriations Committee, West Virginia Democrat Robert Byrd, agrees under pressure from conservatives Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), two leading lights of the anti-pork effort, to require that all earmarks be clearly identified. The requesting senator, the recipient of the earmark, and its purpose must be posted on the Internet. Senators also have to certify that they and their spouses are not beneficiaries. The good fiscal conservative Joe McCutchen of Ellijay, a vigorous pork opponent, will be a bit happier today. Do what you think necessary, but do it in the open.

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By Mid-South Philosopher

April 20, 2007 8:02 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jim and others,

Now come, the Republican dominated Georgia General Assembly leadership with the news that in next year’s session they plan to push for a 5.75% income tax and a 5.75% basic value added (sales) tax to replace the array of taxes currently imposed here in Georgia. What an enlightened thought for a group of politicians! I am for anything that will allow all inhabitants of the state…citizens, legal aliens, or otherwise; law-abiding or methamphetamine producers; aged or the flower of youth… to make their contributions to the coffers used to pay for the services provided for the common good. I feel certain everyone will feel better and be more able to sleep peacefully at night.

Of course, it looks as though we are going to get the honor and privilege of paying for a special session (God help us) of the legislature because the Governor and the General Assembly cannot agree on how much of our current tax revenue to spend on programs…worthwhile or otherwise.

What was it W. C. Fields once said, “This is carrying democracy too for!”

On an entirely different matter, the performance of Alfonso, excuse me Alberto… I always confuse his name with a more Mafioso type of nomenclature…Gonzales before the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday revealed that former Secretary of Education Rod Paige is not the most bumbling and incompetent member to serve or to have served in the George W. Bush Administration. If Gonzales told the truth to the Senators, he needs, at the very least, to be suspended from office while he undergoes a full battery of medical tests. As little as he was able to remember about events less than six months old may be a sign of the early stages of some neurological disease. Of course, he might just be suffering from the Hillary Clinton I Don’t Recall Syndrome!

While I have not decided who, among the political princes and princesses, I intend to support for President in 2008, I am more and more coming to the point of view that it should be the least known of the bunch. What I see of major players in both parties gives me a pain in the lower torso.

Also, I want to know that whoever I support takes a drink. I have had my fill of reformed drunks…in the White House and in the Congress. Beside, politicians are far more congenial to one another and work more amiable for the country…with a nip!

By Patriot

April 20, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

US Soldiers continue to die every day, while the egotistical Bush ignores the cry of the country.

Bush - admit you’re wrong and stop killing our soldiers in Iraq.

By jbmlaw

April 20, 2007 8:09 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I already see I am more cranky than usual; I’ll try to rein it in, but please show some tolerance.

I respectfully disagree with any statement that asserts, “Government has an obligation” unless we are talking about killing someone, imprisoning someone, or stealing somebody. My leftist friends will recoil, but Michael Medved expresses my thoughts: government should not spend $1 on anything related to genitalia. It is not a federal issue, it is not a state issue, and it is not county or municipality issue. It is a stupid waste of taxpayer money. Same with the Urban League – unless they are advocating broad government killing or incarceration of black males… wait, that’s already the case, isn’t it. Strange that Urban League should advocate there.

Let’s put out prisoners on a diet rich in wheat gluten.

Jim’s note on “letters” strikes close to home. Mrs. jbmlaw has benefited from my job-related frequent extended absences – probably has made life with me a little more bearable. Around 1989 we discovered the wonders of email on Prodigy, to exchange those mundane daily concerns and thoughts. But much earlier in our marriage, I had one of those employment-related three-week schools a long distance from home and sent her several hand written notes, short epistles really, frivolous, noisy, and a bit lonely. I discovered late last year she still had those 30 year old letters.

I can conceive no reason not to cheer Ms. Tucker’s Pulitzer Prize, although I have never read more than a paragraph of anything she wrote.

My friend TFTT has no particular affection for several of my favorites, but Peggy Noonan’s essay in tomorrow’s WSJ, on Virginia Tech, is a masterpiece. Advance view at http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110009962

As to the Sudan, there is a win-win available – let’s send 22,000 of the UN’s NYC staff to Darfur.

By every measure, Americans over 65 are our wealthiest citizens. Why shouldn’t struggling 20-somethings with two kids subsidize the existence of our wealthiest?

I am truly shocked by the earmarks note – I had not heard this, and the democrats’ prohibition against Congressional Research Office accumulating that information sounded like the final word to me. I salute the change of course – anytime the democrats reverse course to embrace a republican principle we must give credit.

By TW

April 20, 2007 8:14 AM | Link to this

“Sexual abstinence classes don’t work, critics contend. Their view gained some support when a research group examined four classes and found no dramatic difference in those who attended and those who didn’t. So drop them, right? Definitely not. Government has an obligation, as does the middle class, churches and the entertainment industry, to discourage some behaviors and encourage others.”

Research?…Obligation?…welcome to the Democratic Party, Jim!

By Jim Wooten

April 20, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

Morning all. And thanks for your patience through some technical problems of the past week or so.

If I withdraw the word “obligaton” and replace it with “interest,” am I still obligated to report to work at Democratic Party headquarters?

By Gil Gibson

April 20, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this

Mentioning Cynthia Tucker in the same paragraph as Ralph McGill is more than I can stand. McGill was a liberal, yes, but not a race-baiting, far left, ideologue.

By jbmlaw

April 20, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this

Dear Jim Wooten, forgive my misperception, but I thought you were the only republican already working at democrat party headquarters.

By Jim's a Cherry Picker

April 20, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this

Hi Jim,

Re your sex abstinence remark, who gets to decide which behaviors are encouraged and which are discouraged?

Also, I’d like to request that you do a column or blog on the media coverage surrounding Va Tech.

People keep blaming the media for being overly aggressive and intrusive. I agree that they’re overwhelming and I have my theories as to why, but I’m interested in what you might think those reasons are.

By CJ

April 20, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this

I disagree with your comment on gun control. There is no one in this country who needs a gun except for police and members of the military. Anyone who needs a gun for entertainment or to get their point across should be deported.

By spaceman109

April 20, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

If I withdraw the word “obligaton” and replace it with “interest,” am I still obligated to report to work at Democratic Party headquarters?

well, jim, since you have been trending more toward being a big-government conservative (not unlike president bush), you might as well work at the dnc for a time so you can finish your training! :D

By Mid-South Philosopher

April 20, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

In response to CJ@8:28,

The massacre at Virginia Tech is one of those unexplainable manifestations of evil that rears its head from time to time in our post-modern society. While tragic in its scope to the victims and, in particular, to those families and individuals who lost loved ones and friends, there is no easy solution.

Certainly, additional gun control measures, it might be argued, could have mitigated the results of Cho Seung Hui”s rampage. Equally, it might be argued that the presence of a .9 mm Glock or a Strum Ruger .357 magnum in the hands of a competently trained student could have mitigated the results as well. This presumes that the armed student would have been prepared to kill, and that is where the rub comes. Most good people, even if they are trained in the proper use of firearms, are not prepared to “drop the hammer” even on a vile attacker without thinking about it. That is when they are more likely to be killed than to kill the attacker.

Consequently, I am NOT in favor of arming students, school teachers, school administrators, or even professors…albeit the notion is tempting from time to time.

Further, I especially agree that you do not need a firearm, CJ.

By Van

April 20, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this

CJ,

Since cars kill better and are more efficient than handguns, I say you don’t need a car either. To paraphrase you -

Anyone that needs a car for entertainment or to get their point across should be deported.

By Dennis

April 20, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

On occasion I don’t agree with her, but I enjoy Cynthia Tucker and congratulate her. Do you suppose she won her award because she’s “Thinking Right”?

Have a good day, Mr. Wooten, and I still want to know when and where public educaation has ever been overly funded or even adequately funded.

Oops!, one more. “Openness leads to accountability which leads to better government.” Mr. Wooten, the Bush administration could sure use you, right now.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Barbara

April 20, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

Sexual abstinence classes - keep ‘em. I wouldn’t go so far as to say the government has an “obligation” though. The parents have that obligation. But I do think that, as part of a sex ed class, abstinence should be taught in public schools as it is part science, part health, and part good morals. JaCP, I can’t believe you actually ask who gets to decide what is morally right here? Do you really support teen-agers still in school having random sex?????

As to the prisoners, I say put jbmlaw in charge of them. I love his “wheat gluten” platform!

I’m surprised that Mid-south, and jbmlaw, both of whom I think are at least a decade older than me, are in support of taxing the elderly. Perhaps they know more than I do on this issue, but I’ve always had a soft spot for the elderly, and I don’t know very many retirees who are amoung the richest. Most of the ones I know barely make ends meet. I’d be willing to pay a little more to give them a little break. (Of course, I don’t think I could have afforded it when I was a 20-something with little kids. I’m 41 now.)

I love the WWII story Jim. I agree with you that instant messaging, and instant anything, is more potential for trouble. We say thinks before thinking; we report things before we have all the facts; we make decisions based on inaccurate or immature data. If we took a little more time before airing our opinions, we just might have a more peaceful world.

Cynthia Tucker - nice of you to mention her in a positive light. Don’t look for me to add anything positive though. Yuck!

I agree 100% on the gun control issue, although mid-south makes a very good point. He said that a good person would have a hard time pulling the trigger. I think that is largely true. I know I probably would have a hard time. But I also think that some good folks, who have been trained and who may have had more experience, like Van, or my husband, or any retired soldier, might be able to make that decision very quickly and act. Don’t discount all good folks from being able to make that decision. (I’d probably jump behind Van and hand him my gun…….)

CJ, I’ll take it a little easier on you. You’ve clearly never been to a gun range before, or you would know how much fun target practice is. You come to the gun range with me a couple of times, and I’ll let you pop off a few rounds with my .45 long barrel revolver, and then tell us you don’t think gun ownership is for everyone. It’s fun, and safe if you know what you’re doing. I do think anyone that owns a gun should be properly trained in safetly and should practice regularly. That is part of responsible gun ownership.

By Ronnie B

April 20, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this

Thought I’d pass along the recipe for the next massacre; it’s pretty much the same recipe as most others: 1 part mental instability and 2 parts liberal firearm purchase laws. Stand back apathetically and allow the ingredients to foment. Wait for young people to be massacred.

Repeat as necessary.

By jm

April 20, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

Van@8:51 - by your statement here I guess all US military personnel should have their sidearms replaced by cars, since they “kill better and are more efficient”.

By Jeff

April 20, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

Barbara:

a question:

Would you consider me to be a “good person”?

The reason I ask:

I have maintained for 8 years now (and it was in the core of my being long before that, I just didn’t vocalize it) that if someone around me is threatened, I will react the exact same way I would as if it were my family: I will stop it, using any means necessary. If I see someone shooting an unarmed person and I have a gun on me, a bullet is going into the gun shoulder of the shooter. If I deem the situation merits it, the second round will go about six inches over and roughly six inches higher.

And I have NO QUALMS about doing it. I’ve already gotten several scars on my body from breaking up classroom fights. FORTUNATELY, I’ve never had to deal with weapons more severe than rocks and sticks so far. But I know me reaction if (when?) I do. Only thing I’m unsure about is the exact speed I’ll do it with, though I suspect it will be faster than I give myself credit for.

By getalife

April 20, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

Sexual abstinence classes don’t work

Duh.

You can’t change human nature and get your government out of our bedrooms.

Jim,

The Democratic party headquaters would laugh if you showed up. They would kindly show you the door.

By time for the truth

April 20, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

The black males targeted by this pathetic ostrich like bollocks from the worthless pandering Urban League are obviously NOT the decent law abiding socially responsible black males who actually cheerily and proudly look after their kids, dont do drugs, go car jacking or gangbanging or subscribe to the despicable racist/sexist hippety hop kulture that deems getting educated as “acting white” and refuses to EVER co-operate with police in solving even serious crimes like homicide.

It isn’t the damn govt that is RESPONSIBLE for black crime, the 70% black bastard rate, the poor black education figures, rampant black anti-intellectualism, black yoof thuggishness, slavish reliance on ebonics and the rest of it … its the bigoted NAACP coddling urban blacks, blacks making choices about black culture and sadly still entrenched anti-whitey attitudes along with the despicable gimme gimme racial spoils and the BLIND REFUSAL by black leaders at all levels to EVER systematically actually address all of these now decades old problems that are now generally just part of a decidedly sullen black inertia. If this wasn’t generally true then things would have changed notably by now in the numerous black hoods and black areas where these national/local problems show no signs of ever going away.

Happily there is a sizeable part of the black community that is just as responsible and hard working as any other community on the fruited plain as Rush calls it!

The sad sick wanker CJ which doubtless stands for something like CommieJerk should come tell me personally that I dont need my Glock which was bought legally and is only ever used responsibly and safely on a strictly controlled target range … come and try and deport me bubbaturd and the millions of other law abiding gun owners.

I NATURALLY ASSUME the sad WANKER CJ WILL FIRST TARGET HIPPETY HOP GANGBANGING BLACK and MEXICAN TYPE THUGS who murderously resort to guns daily … and ILLEGAL GUNS AT THAT … as naturally as most of us (liberals excepted) use soap and water.

Doubtless the wanker CJ would also stop landowners from having a gun to protect their stock from predators or prevent huge infestations of mexican type illegals from trashing their property and threatening them whilst illegally trespassing on their land when illegally slithering across the border in search of liberal run sanctuary cities where they are free to repeatedly commit pretty much any kind of crimes … including DUI killings.

Tucker getting a pulitzer is like the DUI killer Kennedy getting a safe driving award or Sharptongue getting an award for racial tolerance or Tony Soprano or the perjuring pardon selling Arkansas rapist getting an award for marital fidelity … rewarding this shrill racebaiting far leftist is what the politically charged Pulitzers, just like the now worthless politically awarded Nobel prizes NOWADAYS are all about!!

That blonde haired black dwarfish so called poet at VT gave me my biggest sardonic laugh of the week … cheers for that you pathetic multi-culti puker … anyone who justifies, excuses or defends that kind of narcissistic self absorbed third world lovin’ drivel needs a good kicking!!

How much longer does corrupt Billy bigot Campbell have left in the federal big house? He certainly has all the integrity needed … Hastings, Jefferson, Waters, Jackson Pee et al … to join the often bigoted America hating black congressional caucus when he finally gets out of prison.

By Van

April 20, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

jm,

I guess sarcasm doesn’t come through well in text. By substituting cars for guns, I was trying to point out how absurd his statements sound. Anyway, it is hard to carry a car on your shoulder and the manual of arms might be more than the average soldier could handle.

Barbara, I doubt you would hide behind me or anyone for that matter.

By Nate

April 20, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

Jim,

You’re almost right on gun control. We can’t be a country like britain where only the police and criminals have guns, but at the same time, we can’t be the wild west where everyone’s packing heat. Common sense says there’s a middle ground. The concealed weapons supporters thinks that one of the students would have stood up, but violent outbursts happen in states that allow concealed weapons. My question is, do you really want a bunch of 18 year olds running around with concealed weapons? It would make law enforcement a nightmare. I do like the idea of making a concealed weapons permit a priveledge and requiring proof of competance and responsibility prior rather than a simple background check however. It shouldn’t be a rubber stamp process.

By Aquagirl

April 20, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this

It seems strange to promote abstinence classes when they don’t work; who are these classes for, students, or right-wing conservatives who like to see them taught? That makes no more sense than the “useless” public transit construction that Jim opposes. It’s just backing an idea that they like without doing any real good.

Jeff, just an idea…don’t shoot for the shoulder. It’s a Hollywood idea that you should try to “wing” a dangerous person. I’d hate to be shot to death by a crazy while you try to get in a second round.

By Mid-South Philosopher

April 20, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

For a portion of Barbara’s post@9:08

You’re 41? A baby…just a baby.

While there are many poor elderly citizens, the secret untold story is that many of us are not poor. If the General Assembly was constituted with members with a modicum of intellectual talent, it could come up with a way of compensating for the truly pressed with respect to taxation, but that would require some thought on the part of politicians…I have my doubts.

While it sounds cruel, I believe every inhabitant from the age of 18 (17 if living on their own)regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, socio-economic level, health, or position on global warming should pay something toward the common good. Certainly, the fair tax assures this. Moreover, the basic value added (sales) tax allows the taxpayer to make the decision as to how much tax to pay based upon consumption as opposed to punishing those who chose to save and invest.

Of course opponents will argue that food, medicine, etc. will be taxed, thereby, working a hardship on the poor and elderly. Again, the General Assembly should be wise enough to figure a way to compensate for this…oh, wait…General Assembly?….Naw, I was wrong!

By Larry M

April 20, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

Mid South Philosopher makes a good point. To all the people who claim a few armed students could have possiby mitigated the rampage I say more than likely not. I have used deadly force. In the military and in my private life. I know in my heart I could do it again if it were truely mecessary, but I do not want anyone to know how it feels. In combat, you are trained to kill the enemy, it is your job. Most of the time, you do not have to look them in the eye when you pull the trigger. However, when it is “life or death” in the civilian world, it is VERY hard to pull the trigger and end someone’s life in defense of your own. It is also something you must live with the rest of your life. And don’t get me started on legal hassles of a justified shooting. Stricter gun control would not have stopped the rampage in Blacksburg. Better mental health screening may not have stopped it. Someone who is unstable and determined to commit such a heinous act will find the means, they always have. A heart felt congratrulations to Cynthia Tucker! While I rarely agree with her, I have always admired her writting and her consistant stance. And her column never fails to make me think, which is always a good thing. Again, my congratulations to Cynthia! It makes us all look better when our local folks earn national awards.

By Jeff

April 20, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

Aquagirl:

Thanks for the vote of confidence in my abilities, but I assure you that if I’m packing the gun I’m thinking about, if the shooter doesn’t go down with the shoulder shot, he’d better be smart and turn his fire in my direction, allowing you - hopefully - to leave the arena. Even if he doesn’t, my second shot will be a split second later. As soon as I see that the first round has impacted with no change - either the shooter falling or turning in my direction - the second one is on its way down range. Even though I CAN kill in cold blood to defend another’s life, I still don’t WANT to. I’d simply be letting my training take over. And I can tell you from being in similar defensive actions where I let my training take over: I’m better than I let on or give myself credit for.

By john wayne

April 20, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

Yes thats a great idea,lets give stoned,drunken college students guns on campus! So at the next keg party I see someone talking to my girlfriend I’ll just shoot him! Do you really think if everybody had a gun on that campus would have prevented that massacre? Do you remember Brian Nichols? He took on trained CO’s,police officers & a veteran DEA agent and they still couldn’t stop him.You guys watch too many movies,just because you have a gun does not mean you can protect yourself from the bad guys. I don’t care how many guns you have in your car or at home if some thug wants to rob or kill you he can and will. Don’t believe me go to Bankhead after dark with your guns and see who comes out alive!

By john wayne

April 20, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

Yes thats a great idea,lets give stoned,drunken college students guns on campus! So at the next keg party I see someone talking to my girlfriend I’ll just shoot him! Do you really think if everybody had a gun on that campus would have prevented that massacre? Do you remember Brian Nichols? He took on trained CO’s,police officers & a veteran DEA agent and they still couldn’t stop him.You guys watch too many movies,just because you have a gun does not mean you can protect yourself from the bad guys. I don’t care how many guns you have in your car or at home if some thug wants to rob or kill you he can and will. Don’t believe me go to Bankhead after dark with your guns and see who comes out alive!

By getalife

April 20, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

Jeff,

I little full of yourself I see. If you do have a gun I hope you do not have mental problems.

I have a large arsenal and my technique involves unloading the whole clip then unloading the second clip just to be sure.

Two rounds?

Please, if you are going to shoot, shoot.

By Barbara

April 20, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

Thanks Mid-south. I don’t always feel like it though. Things started falling apart around 40!

Jeff, I was not trying to identify “good persons”; I was responding to Mid-south’s choice of words. I would expect many, especially men, to be able to act quickly and to be protective of all that is around him. I’ll stray a little to my personal beliefs here - I think men have a higher instinct for protection based on God’s design. That’s why he blessed you with so much testosterone. You are supposed to use it to protect and defend if need be. Now before any females get mad and point out the whole mother bear and her cub thing, I agree that mothers can protect their children quite well. It’s just that, in general, I believe the man is better equipped mentally and physically to do so.

Thanks for the vote of confidence Van. I would like to believe that I could protect myself and anyone who is around me, if the time comes. But fortunately I have never had to do it, so I just don’t know for sure.

By Mid-South Philosopher

April 20, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

Ordinarily, I do not comment over once or twice per day. However, I have had a little extra time this morning and I have (symbolically)run my mouth a lot more than all of you could have ever possibly wanted.

For my last contribution (today), I will address abstinence verses sex education as to prevention options.

I can’t speak for everyone else on this issue, and I damn well reject anyone else speaking for me…especially politicians..left wing, right wing, or broken wing!

In raising our girls, my lady and I stressed abstinence; however, we made sure that our girls were fully aware of the prevention options once one choses to engage in sexual activity. In particular, we stressed the health concerns, STDs, etc.

There was one other thing.

Our girls knew that, for us, abortion was not an option. Further, they knew that if they turned-up in the family way, their mother and I were not going to “freak”. We were not going to disown them. We were not going to brand them with the Scarlett Letter. However, if they did come-up pregnant, they were going to be the Momma and, most effectively, the party was going to be over!

Did our girls participate in the forbidden pleasures? Despite our parental supervision and, from time to time, down-right parental meddling, we don’t know. Perhaps it is best that we don’t.

There were no known unortunate consequences. It would seem that both our girls loved to party more than they loved to love!

I can’t say it will work for everyone, but it worked for us. We made it! We were lucky! We were blessed!

Now, I will vanish until Monday.

Enjoy this glorious weekend.

By Jack

April 20, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

41? Lucky pool boy!

By jbmlaw

April 20, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

Dear jacp @ 8:28, I don’t want to offend, but you are absolutely correct on your concern. Last night we went to supper and the restaurant attempted to compel us to watch CNN’s all-killing all-the-time coverage of Virginia Tech. What a great atmosphere for a meal! Eventually we were able to persuade them to switch the channel to the Braves game, but you would think we would not have to ask. Where are their brains?

Dear TFTT @ 9:24, doubtless some of our leftist friends will take offense as always, but this is a funny rant again today, my compliments.

By getalife

April 20, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

“In a question-and-answer period after his speech, Rove was asked whose idea it was to start a pre-emptive war in Iraq.

“I think it was Osama bin Laden’s,” Rove replied.”

Oh man, here we go.

The buck stops with OBL but w spewed Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Where does the buck stop Rove?

Of course, Rove is insulting real American’s intellegence.

“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” — H.L.Mencken

“It’s amazing I won. I was running against peace, prosperity, and incumbency.” —George W. Bush, June 14, 2001, speaking to Swedish Prime Minister Goran Perrson, unaware that a live television camera was still rolling.

Well, Rove may have a point about the wingnut’s intelligence.

Geez.

By Daedalus

April 20, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

Hyoocrisy Unbound!

Jim Wooten’s claim that Republicans are somehow responsible for reining in earmarks and pork barrel spending is laughable.

It was the “Republican Revolution” of 1994 and the leadership of Newt Gingrich and Tom Delay that ushered in an unparalled era of earmarks inserted into legislation in closed committees with no accountability. It was Republicans who got in bed with Jack Abramoff to steer pork grants to his clients and have federal property put on “excess property” lists so that Abramoff’s sleazy Republican clients could buy the property for pennies on the dollar.

Where is the outrage when Tennessee Republicans insert an earmark in the EPA budget to buy land in Marysville, Tennessee, to keep developers from building single family households within sight of Tennessee Coach Phil Fulmer’s McMansion? The guy makes millions a year coaching football — but that’s not enough for Tennessee’s Congressional Republicans — they want to preserve the “views” from the Coach’s front porch. Your hypocrisy is amazing.

Until Wooten finally admits that Republicans in Congress spent like drunken sailor and misused the public trust from 1994 until 2006 he will always be just a partisan hack. Even Cynthia Tucker — whom Jim’s fans routinely loathe — is willing to criticize black leaders — but Jim and his close-minded “fans” admit they don’t even read what she writes.

Its a pity there is not a prize that rewards partisan-hack journalism because Jim Wooten would give the Fox Newsies a run for that one.

By getalife

April 20, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Its a pity there is not a prize that rewards partisan-hack journalism because Jim Wooten would give the Fox Newsies a run for that one.

Well, the gop does pay their hacks.

Of course, Jim had to give his soul for gop money.

By Brett

April 20, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

Heard on WSB AM750 while commuting to work this morning - ‘Bush was impressed with the Alberto Gonzales testimony, but a prominent Republican congressman named (???) from Oklahoma was not.’ You just have to love the media; any Republican is prominent when railing against W, even one who nobody heard of outside of his district. The AJC is just as cunning in how they deal with Republicans.

By Barbara

April 20, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

Jack, I don’t have a pool. The ID stealer put me with the pool boy, and now I can’t shake that rep.

By time for the truth

April 20, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

I hope you do not have mental problems.

This is just wistful embittered wishful thinking in your case maggot brain - your mental problems are sadly obsessively puked up daily on this blog. Why don’t you go play Russian roulette with BOTH clips you inadequate wannabemacho liar … one naturally assumes you ALWAYS FIRE BLANKS - like your stagnant sperm and your effete pathetic hermaphrodite like your lame psychotic attempts at abusing your conservative betters on here.

Scum like you simply do NOT belong in the USA!! Bugger off back to Cuba cut and run perfidious greaseball!!

By jm

April 20, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

van@9:26 - I guess my sarcasm did not come through as well. Sad as the Virginia Tech situation is, Mr. Wooten is correct in his statement regarding gun control is this situation. By all accounts, while apparently “mentally disturbed” Mr. Cho there was nothing that would have prevented him from legally purchasing a gun. Also, Mr. Cho had done nothing that had warranted being denied his liberty (being committed to a mental facility against his will). While horrific (and fortunately rare), these events are a price for our free society.

By getalife

April 20, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Brett,

Yea, he did a great job yesterday.

“I do not recall” to every question was simply brilliant.

We should be proud he will not resign and Bush will not fire him.

Our Justice (sic) Dept. is the best ever.

I loved the way they got rid of those emails to make those liberals howl.

Did you hear Rush today?

Geez.

By getalife

April 20, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Hey lies,

How ya doing bloody wanker?

Check this out

Watch out for I.C.E.

By jj

April 20, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

I do not think Retirees should pay income tax. They have worked very hard all their lives, saved for a happy retirement, and they are still paying taxes and the money they saved for retirement, has already been taxed, if it’s personal savings. And repeal the Death Tax. Just because my mother died after YEARS of paying taxes, and saving HER OWN money, I should not have to pay taxes on her Estate. she’s already done that while she was alive.

By time for the truth

April 20, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

I just wanted to humbly and munificently thank the racist crackpipe debbie, inbred rednekkk and its stolen YAWWWWWWWWWN beer lorry, rednekkks NAMBLA and snivelling moron rod - among others - for NOT soiling this blog in recent days with their deranged leftist lies, terminal cowardice and Bush derangement syndrome … hopefully your kool aid drip is brimming full of cut and run Pelosipuke and the doctors have compassionately kept the Electro Shock Treatment at least down to the usual limousine liberal t wat levels.

By deegee

April 20, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

“Openness leads to accountability which leads to better government.”

Couldn’t agree more…

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/20/opinion/edgonzales.php

By CJ

April 20, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

To Van@8:51am - Cars aren’t produced with the intention of inflicting damage. Guns are. Further, you don’t see a mad rash of murderers trying to kill people with their cars. It’s never been an epidemic. Murderers have historically preferred a gun for their dirty work.

To Barbara@9:08am - Shooting a gun at a range might be fun, but so are a million other things. I’m sure whaling was fun at some point, but it was banned and someone’s fun was taken away. Waa.

To TimeForTheTruth@9:24am - Thanks for the compliment… voted best wanker 2004. :) To your comment, unfortunately people who buy their Glocks legally aren’t the problem and a minority of people who use them for killing have given the ability to own a gun a bad name. Don’t get mad at me - I follow the law. Get mad at the minority that have screwed things up for you! Further, for the landowners who have illegal aliens trashing their property… they have bigger issues to worry about if this is happening! How about some proactive measures (a barbed wire fence, perhaps?) rather than a reactive measure (shooting a gun). If a landowner can’t afford some preventative installations to prevent having their property “trashed”, then they should sell out and only own as much land as they can financially handle.

By CJ

April 20, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

By the way, “Time For the Truth”, you mentioned wanker 3 times in your post, and while I’m flattered you combine my screen name with your favorite personal pasttime, there are a lot of other websites you could be (or may be simultaneously) surfing to “handle” that word that consumes you.

By hammertime

April 20, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

‘I disagree with your comment on gun control. There is no one in this country who needs a gun except for police and members of the military. Anyone who needs a gun for entertainment or to get their point across should be deported.’ -

I’d like to take this opportunity to thank Mr. Wooten for allowing idiot narcissistic democrat[ic] liberals like CJ on the forum to post their mindless drivel. What are you and your little posse of democrat[ic] liberal poodles going to do CJ, go door to door and take guns from everyone? Why don’t you first start in D.C. where they are allegedly illegal. Let’s just call 9-1-1 while being raped or burglarized! What an incredibly mindless idiot with the nerve to tell others what they should and should not have. Next, CJ will support banning knives.

By JK

April 20, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

Heyyyy Jack! Happy 4/20!! {;->

Mr. Wooten you wrote: Openness leads to accountability which leads to better government. Have you expressed this in writing to Sentator Isakson? I’m tired of all the secrecy in our current administration, all the “we don’t need to answer THOSE questions,” and “we don’t need to swear an oath to tell the truth,” and “oh, you can’t see THOSE documents, we’ve just now decided they’re classified,” and “I don’t recall.” If Senator Isakson is half the man his people say he is, then he should be all over a “get the truth out” initiative, doncha think? (You write, okay? He doesn’t answer my letters anymore. {:-<)

By hammertime

April 20, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

By the way, another thanks goes to Senator Reid for surrendering to the enemy. Job well done, sir. We knew you had it in you. Believably pathetic. Democrat[ic] liberals care about nothing except making W look bad. Supporting the troops my absolute a$$.

By time for the truth

April 20, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

wanker CJ … I understand you also were ‘placed’ in 2005 and 6 :)

Your argument is as weak and as a lame as it gets!!! Legal responsible gun ownership, which is overwhelmingly the case even today, which as even you as a far leftist state is NOT the problem. Its the illegally owned/stolen guns in the hands of criminals and the occasional gun that ends up in the hands of a psychotic or psychopath that are the problem. Banning gun ownership as a knee jerk reaction to one devastating needless unpredictable outrage is not a rational response. Gun owning does NOT “have a bad name” … only in the eyes of the weak minded control freak liberals who ALWAYS react emotively. Stats show that legal gun ownership and just producing one (if needed) stops countless crimes every year - without even being fired. The VT outrage is thankfully a one off …

I also follow the law and dont need any gun control leftist nutter telling me what I can/can’t do!!

The laws for gun use and where you can even carry one are very strict everywhere, even for CW permit holders. Self policing works overwhelmingly … there will sadly always be the odd nutter/outrage …

Why the hell should farmers/landowners have to spend tens of thousands on extra fences etc to keep out illegals who have no business being there and are damaging their property/stock/crops etc? - this is typical of the far left mentality. Blame the US citizen and excuse the mexican type infestation!! The land belongs to US folks of all races … NOT illegals. And the illegals frequently destroy fences in their way, which can allow stock to roam and establish tracks for other illegals to follow. ILlegals often attack or intimidate innocent land owners … clearly you only pay lip service to follwing the law when it suits you. Go down to AZ TX etc and tell the landowners your attitude, I’m sure they will joyously agree with you!!

By deegee

April 20, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

Incredible how we are willing to throw up their hands and declare that there is nothing that we can do to keep high caliber weapons out of the hands of the general public but are willing to mobilize the government’s moral police to keep hormonal adolescents from having sex.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18217741/site/newsweek/

By Truthsayer

April 20, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

Maybe I missed it, but I still haven’t seen anyone comment on that wonderful, kind, understanding, compassionate liberal father Alec Baldwin’s diatribe on the phone against his 11 year old daughter. What a great representative of the Demoncrats!

By BBT

April 20, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

The first step to any government massacre is to disarm its citizens. (Russia’s communists, Khmer Rouge, even attempted in Iraq by the US!) In order to take a landowner’s property easily, the landlord has to be disarmed first. That being said, it would help to have proper gun regulations where mentally ill people can’t buy guns (Virginia had a criminal background check but not a mental background check). It would also be nice for colleges to have some sort of blaring alarm system that prevents a second massacre! Or for personnel in mental hospitals to be trained not to release dangerous mental cases.

By @@

April 20, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

I’m feeling spunky today Jim so……

Why would anybody want to “blow off” abstinence? Oops, I forgot. A Republican isn’t allowed to refer to any previous Democrat’s behavior. My bad….

Inmates’ caloric intake? Well dang Jim, they’re still taking in more than I do. The husband made a “wise choice” when he picked me, and I never want him to regret it.

Aawwwwww, a WWII pen-pal relationship? That’s sweet, very sweet. Nothing like today’s liberal “slams & bams” is it? Liberals have no patience. Patience is loving…patience is kind. A virtuous endeavor.

Father’s in the home? A liberal’s idea of fatherhood. “Ooooohhhhh Baby”?

Sudan? American interests? Well there’s a harsh reality.

Sudan is the responsibility for the world community. We’re doing our part to protect a “world’s interest” in Iraq.

Eliminating retirees state income tax appeals? I’ve been promoting development for retirees down here in Clayton County.

If the trains a’comin, let it bring retirees. Otherwise, stop it dead in it’s tracks.

Openness leads to accountability and Robert Byrd? So the ol’ Byrd’s “out of the barn”? Shriveled under pressure from conservatives did “it”?

The visual I’m getting isn’t a pretty one, let’s “zip this one up Senator Byrd” and keep “it” (the taxpayers money) where everyone can see it.

I’m off to work. See ‘ya…

By time for the truth

April 20, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

tut tut dumbwanker CJ

I had naturally assumed you were intelligent enough to glean that I was but humbly paraphrasing Lionel Ritchie:

You are once, twice, three times A WANKER …

By Elizabeth

April 20, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

We need to get rid of Abstinence ONLY education, since a larger percentage of those kids are chosing not to stay abstinence. We need to teach Abstinence plus Safe Sex, since most of those kids, with their promise rings are having sex anyway. Conservatives would prefer those kids catch STDs, get pregnant and have abortions…

By Elizabeth

April 20, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

We need to get rid of Abstinence ONLY education, since a larger percentage of those kids are chosing not to stay abstinent. We need to teach Abstinence plus Safe Sex, since most of those kids, with their promise rings are having sex anyway. Conservatives would prefer those kids catch STDs, get pregnant and have abortions…

By chester

April 20, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

I know there are a lot of problems in the Black community,especially with Black males.But when are the White community going to take a stand against these child molestors & child predators?? Because 90% of them are being commited by White males! Every morning when I watch the news or read the paper I hear about some sick White pervert who is molesting children or downloading child porn on the internet.And it is usually a teacher,coach,youth minister,or stepfather. Where is the outcry from the White community?You would rather talk about hiphop,or some low level street thugs or drug dealers.But there are molesters in your community who harming our children every day and it needs to stop!

By chester

April 20, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

I know there are a lot of problems in the Black community,especially with Black males.But when are the White community going to take a stand against these child molestors & child predators?? Because 90% of them are being commited by White males! Every morning when I watch the news or read the paper I hear about some sick White pervert who is molesting children or downloading child porn on the internet.And it is usually a teacher,coach,youth minister,or stepfather. Where is the outcry from the White community?You would rather talk about hiphop,or some low level street thugs or drug dealers.But there are molesters in your community who harming our children every day and it needs to stop!

By CC

April 20, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

Father in the home? Why don’t we ask Mary Cheney?

By Sad for America

April 20, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

Here’s the recipe for the next VA Tech massacre - we keep illegally, immorally, counter-productively, irrationally, uselessly, and mindlessly harassing people who are listed on the godforsaken Sex Offender Registries throughout this country. I listened to the experts discussing the VA Tech situation and what leads people to do such evil and it sounds exactly like the environment we have and are constructing for those Registrants. All for no legitimate or beneficial reasons.

I’ve “listened” to thousands of Registrants (via forums, etc.) and they’ve had it. They do believe they are at war with society. I believe hundreds of thousands of them feel they are being retroactively and constantly attacked by the government and they have been backed into a corner with only a few ways out. They’ve already begun killing (just as experts told legislators they would, BTW). It’s only a matter of time before it’s not just one or two murders here and there, but a large number. It’s just purely idiotic social policy supported by ignorance and apathy.

By time for the truth

April 20, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

@ bubbaturd chester

cheers for the PREDICKTABLE racebaiting bollocks … if you ever save up enough welfare money to buy a TV try watching the pandering sh!te that passes for WSB in Atlanta - you’ll see that there are a large number of black and mexican type child molestors too in the nightly mostly black/mexican type perp hall of shame.

Race is actually irrelevant when it comes to paedophiles. THEY ARE ALL SCUM!! Especially that senior white liberal ACLU lawyer recently arrested in MA with really nasty child porn on its PC. .

By Barbara

April 20, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Truthsayer, that was a pretty funny rant, wasn’t it? Maybe Kim Basinger has a good point trying to keep that nut job away from her kids.

Elizabeth, your statement about conservatives is so off base. You got any data to back it up?

By Justa

April 20, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

regarding the comment of the illness:

Hillary Clinton I Don’t Recall Syndrome!

I think she learned that from I have no recollection of that event Ollie North.

Good teachers, those GOPers.

By JW

April 20, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

There is no Black Community. It is myth of convenience. All black people do not think the same, live the same, vote the same, raise our kids the same way, nor do we all live in the same neighborhood. Please refrain from generalizations. How come there isn’t a White Community?

By Power of Light

April 20, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

JW,

The Light agrees with your assessment at 12:11, but you might want to tell that to black leaders, radio hosts, and entertainment figures because they are the ones perpetuating that thought.

By Elizabeth

April 20, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

Barbara, if conservatives are unwilling to accept that not everyone wiil remain abstinent, what do they expect to happen to young people who are having s*x, but don’t know how to be safe about it? STDs, pregnancy & abortion are a reality for those kept-in-the-dark-abstinence-only-taught young people.

By Jack

April 20, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Hi Sweetness! :)

By Charles

April 20, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

I am an expert on any topic concerning Black males and Black people in general. Black males and black people in general, from the so-called greatest to the so-called least will always have a substandard existence in this country because of the inferior brain power which we cultivate. Black people who have, loosely speaking, higher standards of living do so at the expense of the greater masses. Stated in colloquial terms, a few are the pimps, and the masses are the prostitutes. The Johns are any dependent group that wishes to take advantage of us.

We have and are presently developing a brain mass which is totally dependent on others for our survival; food, clothing, shelter, education, jobs, health, etc. The formulation of that kind of brain, dependent, by definition, is inferior and unable to measure up to the standards of an independent brain which most Europeans cultivate.

If the situation were to be reversed, Europeans cultivating dependent brains, they would be inferior to other ethnic groups. The formulation of that kind of brain can’t take responsibility for the survival of itself or other people. The dependent brain mass looks to other groups to do for them what they can’t to do for themselves.

By Truthsayer

April 20, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

I would also like to point out that NAMBLA and other pro-pedophile organizations are always sidling up to radical leftist organizations like the ACLU and the ADA and parade around in places like San Francisco and Berkley, which are famously controlled by radical leftists. You liberals have a lot of hypocrisy to answer for. I just cannot get over that you love Alec Baldwin soooo much. I guess you love any kook that hates Bush, no matter how evil he is.

By deegee

April 20, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

From what I have read about the Alec Baldwin-Kim Basinger custody battle, I would suspect that the child has already surpassed the parents in terms of emotional maturity.

By Power of Light

April 20, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

Charles,

Just curious. What do you suppose the solution to this mental inequality is?

By Truthsayer

April 20, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

deegee - Well, as both Kim and Alec are somewhere to the left of Trotsky on the political scale, then I would have to agree that almost anyone with half a brain is more mature than they. However, many on this blog would rate just as low on the maturity meter.

By Dusty

April 20, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Hey, what’s going on here? Sex education study?

There was no “safe sex” advice in my home. It was all “abstinence” and it worked. There were no excuses for “safe” or otherwise. It was very good advice from my parents.

But on to Jim’s subject today. Virginia Tech, forever sad.

Senior taxes..Yes!! Keep tax cuts for everybody. Vote Republican.

Black males..the ones I know are fine folks who attend the same church that I attend and some in the workplace. Some grew up in Africa. To learn about their countries opens the door to new vistas. These black friends are family oriented, fine citizens and reliable people. I wish we heard more about them and the ones of which they are representative.

By Jackie

April 20, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

Let’s all elect TFTT the next President of World. He has means and methods to solve our problems. By eliminating the minorities, crime would cease to exist and deporting all liberals to Cuba and other places, he would remove the rules of law that would require him to behave within societal norms. He is right and we are all perverts and scum for thinking in a manner that is not consistent with his logic. Where does this brilliance come from?

By Dusty's Middle School Teacher

April 20, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

Dusty…here you are again on another blog….you better get back to class…I mean it young man!

By JK

April 20, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Two examples of WH-O-RE media: 1) A personal voice message from a citizen to a family member is pimped out as “news” by every outlet in the country. What is the “news” value about a father yelling at a child for not doing what he or she was supposed to do? (Record yourself next time you yell at yours….) Did it result in the commission of a crime, which would make it relevant to the public record at trial? No? Not news. WH-O-RES.

2) Endless regurtitation of images, videos, thoughts, feelings, and wishes of a mass murderer. Now a hundred other lonely, misunderstood, mentally ill folks are thinking, “Hey, I’m tired of being invisible. I want to be understood. I know just the thing….” Stating his name, and the pertinent reports and actions regarding his mental illness is news. Giving him a stage and all the attention he ever dreamed of makes them…. everybody say it now: WH-O-RES!

By Charles

April 20, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

Simple answer, don’t allow others to be responsible for our basic needs and over time, we will develop the brain mass equal to others; the genuine respect of other groups. Of course, we can’t do this cold turkey. We have to withdraw from being dependent on other groups over time.

Taking responsibility for ourselves produces a totally different brain, person.

By Power of Light

April 20, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

The problem with black males is that they have very little examples and proper instruction to rely on. We have been conditioned to use anger and resentment to make decisions instead of rational thought and patience. We’ve been taught to blame others for our shortcomings while at the same time totally ingoring our own shortcomings, thus making them even worse.

By CJ

April 20, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

Typical conservative response: “You leftist Liberals {insert babble}”.

Typical liberal response: “{insert an inarguable argument}”.

This is fun!

PS - Just in the news Thursday was a Georgia man who inadvertantly shot & killed his wife because he thought she was an intruder. And remember the Mardi Gras Queen in Atlanta (the 90-something year old woman who shot the cops and the cops shot back)? These people are why we need more gun control.

By Rodjuan

April 20, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

WHAT A SNEEKY ATTACK WOOTEN: HEADLINES TELL MORE ABOUT WHAT IS REALLY AFOOT THAN THE BODY OF THE WORK.

‘GUNS, TAXES, BLACK MALES’ WE KNOW GUNS ARE USED TO KILL, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE RECENT OCURRANCES SO THAT WILL STIR A NEGATIVE IMAGE IN THE MIND OF THE READER BEFORE THEY READ THE BODY.

‘TAXES’ WHO LIKES PAYING THEM? RAISE YOUR HANDS, PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF THE IRS.

‘BLACK MALES’ GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION WITH ‘GUNS AND TAXES’

THIS IS NOTHING BUT AN OVERT ATTEMPT TO LAUNCH AN ATTACK AGAINST A SPECIFIC GROUP OF PEOPLE, USING A PUBLIC FORUM.

By deegee

April 20, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

Truthsayer, you are confusing intelligence with emotional maturity. There are plenty of intelligent people that are emotionally immature. That’s why it’s tough to enforce the federal gun registration law. Intellingent but emotionally immature people can easily make a sham of the system.

By Power of Light

April 20, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Rodjuan,

Please stay off the drugs.

By Van

April 20, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

CJ, Your 11:15.

My point exactly. Cars are built to provide transportation, but they are involved with the deaths of 10’s or 100’s of thousands.

Guns on the other hand have a very straight forward efficient design. and in the hands of criminals destroy few lives than cars. Regarding accidental deaths, not deliberate, like murder and suicide, the car rates as one of the deadliest killers around.

By Charles

April 20, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

I’ve got to sign off. The boss is calling. Obviously, by the power of light doesn’t understand the inadequacy, ineptness, of the dependent brain. I wonder why.

By getalife

April 20, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Did you hear that?

That was the sound of the other shoe dropping

My goodness.

By Truthsayer

April 20, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

deegee - that is right. That is the point I am making. Bill and Hillary are prime examples of how intelligent but emotionally retarded people have made a sham of the system. There are too many liberals out there like that. They show their hind ends every day. Chucky Schumer is the worst.

By Rodjuan

April 20, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

“Power of Light’ now what power does ‘light’ have that it does not draw from the darkness? and exactly what drugs are you implying? pray tell, how did you break your fast this morning? or did you?

Unless you have something useful to say I suggest you remain in your illusionary world.

By getalife

April 20, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Here ya go Van

By jbmlaw

April 20, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

Dear Justa @ 12:09, had you actually watched Ollie’s testimony, as the rest of us did, you would not say something so silly. Ollie handed the dems their heads on a platter. Never saw them so speechless. “I do not recall” indeed – that is strictly a Hillaryism.

Dear Elizabeth @ 12:22, as should be the case with everyone else, they will bear personal responsibility for their actions.

By deegee

April 20, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

Truthsayer, I will take Chuck Schumer over Dick “shotgun” Chaney any day. There isn’t enough space on this blog to go head-to-head with you trading examples of mindless acts on the part of politicians. However, I will say that NJ governor Corzine is lucky that he survived a mindless act last week by running 90 mph without a seatbelt in a SUV. Yes, he’s a democrat. No need to point that out.

By Rodjuan

April 20, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

yOU DO HAVE A POINT CHARLES, HOWEVER, WE IN THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY WILL NOT BENEFIT BY ENGAGING THOSE WHO STRIVE TO PERPETUATE THE ‘OUT OF BALANCENESS’ THIS WORLD IS CURRENTLY EMBROILED IN ON THIS ISSUE. THIS ISSUE IS BEST HANDLED IN-HOUSE. IF YOU AREN’T CURRENTLY CONNECTED TO A GROUP EXPLORING SOLUTIONS YOUR VOICE AND SHARP INSIGHT IS VERY MUCH NEEDED.

WWW.10-10-50.ORG IS A GOOD PLACE TO START.

By jbmlaw's Doctor

April 20, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

“I do not recall” indeed – that is strictly a Hillaryism.

You cannot recall how many Republicans said that because you have a yeast infection. Go get some Monistat and the fungus in your memory will begin to clear in a few days.

By rnm

April 20, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

Curious what Mr. Wooten thinks is the reason for the low level of gun related violence in countries that have strict gun control laws. I would assume it is because people who don’t have guns are not able to commit violent gun related crimes; but if Mr. Wooten can provide another explanation I’m willing to listen. Of course, I know someone is going to post saying “look at England!” when arguing that the US should not have gun control laws. So, I’d say yes, look at England. They have strict gun control laws — and very few gun related crimes. Name a country that has strict gun control laws yet has a high level of gun related crimes. Think hard. No answer yet?

By Power of Light

April 20, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

Rodjuan,

I’m referring to whatever drugs that are causing you to hallucinate. Wooten posted his title the same way he always does, and as usual some crack head liberal such as yourself has to find something to be offended about.

By RODJUAN

April 20, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

Charles just for your enlightenment, there isn’t a physiological issue at work, it’s psychological, and until that is fully realized we will continue to fall for the psychological attacks disguised as THINKING RIGHT forums.

It’s a psychological impaired mind or one that is in denial that does not recognize the POWER OF WORDS.

By Truthsayer

April 20, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

deegee - Cheney, love him or hate him, is not prone to mindless rantings. Those types of things are confined to inherited-money, buying elections with Daddy’s money folks like Ted Kennedy and Jay Rockefeller, who actually had the gall to defend IRS agents who were harassing taxpyers illegally by saying that they were hard working people. This from a twit who I GUARANTEE has never filled out an income tax return or worried about finding a job or making a morgage payment.

Chucky Schumer just makes a practice of accusing anything that stands up in any Republican Administration while defending even the vilest acts of Democrats.

You folks have always had the Tammany Hall philosophy of lie, cheat, steal, murder - but then you say you care.

By The Big Payback

April 20, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

Vermont Senate: Impeach the President and Vice President. The impeachment tide is picking up steam. Democrats should work just as hard to do this as Republicians did on Bill Clinton.

By Power of Light

April 20, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

Rodjuan,

It’s not pscyhological attacks, it is drug induced paranoia brought on by improper upbringing and lack of positive guidance. It is about trying to blame someone else because you see pink elephants on blog titles. If you spent the energy that you are spending on finding imaginary tactics on freeing your mind from fear, you could make a serious contribution to black history.

By JP

April 20, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

America simply cannot make every potential target secure. So tell them to stop tracking our antidepressant prescriptions for Chrissake.

Openness leads to accountability which leads to better government. Say that to Dick Cheney and I might be impressed. I’m not holding my breath.

By Next

April 20, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten

I await the day that you write something positive about the black race. You call yourself a conservative…I can think of a few other choice words!

By GOP

April 20, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

My Dear Truthsayer:

I must respond to your idiotic comment that Alec Baldwin is a wonderful representative of the Dems. While I know that you were responding in your uncommonly charming way, allow me to introduce myself as the child of a raucous, drunken, abuser that actually graduated from Georgetown. And guess what???? He was and still is a staunch far right Republican. Now how is that for a representative of the Republican party? No wonder I chose to move left. Oh by the way, Alec Baldwin is a childish punk and the only person he is reperesenting is himself…

By deegee

April 20, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this

Cheney not prone to mindless rantings?

“Remember what happened in Afghanistan. We had been involved in Afghanistan in the ’80s, supporting the Mujahadin against the Soviets and prevailed, we won, everybody walked away. And in the ’90s, Afghanistan became a safe haven for terrorists, an area for training camps where al Qaeda trained 20,000 terrorists in the late ’90s in the base from which they launched attacks against the United States on 9/11.”

Who did he think the Mujahadin were?

Read the whole interview if you want.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/04/20070405-3.html

By jais

April 20, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

this goes out to CJ: You are a moron and you will never see the day guns are taken from us. If one of those poor students had a gun availible, they could have shot and killed that g00k before he managed to get so many. Plenty of people need guns CJ, and it is our constitutional right to keep them in case morons like you ever gain control the government. The right to keep and bear arms is to make certain that if the government ever does get too bad we can forcefully take it back. Do your constitutional reserch before you blog, CJ. Liberals are always willing to throw a stumbling block in the road but never willing to take the walk.

By deegee

April 20, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

Wow, the first slur I have seen yet on Chos’s nationality. Consider the source.

By uncle sam

April 20, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

Its easy for Mr. Wooten,and other whites on this blog to complain and criticize Blacks and Black males. But what are the solutions?When was the last time any of you been to the Ghetto?,when was the last time you became a mentor to a young black male?when is the last time you been to a P.T.A meeting at your local High school in the projects?when is the last time you donated some time,money or even a computer to a middle school in the projects? Whens the last time you coached a little leauge team in the projects?or visted the boys & girls club in the hood?When the last time you hired a young black male or teach him how to fill out an application,dress for an interview or get a bank account?You see its not just for blacks Males to do this in the Black community it is for everyone to do it black,white,mexican or other.Because we are all Americans and Christians aren’t we?

By uncle sam

April 20, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

Its easy for Mr. Wooten,and other whites on this blog to complain and criticize Blacks and Black males. But what are the solutions?When was the last time any of you been to the Ghetto?,when was the last time you became a mentor to a young black male?when is the last time you been to a P.T.A meeting at your local High school in the projects?when is the last time you donated some time,money or even a computer to a middle school in the projects? Whens the last time you coached a little leauge team in the projects?or visted the boys & girls club in the hood?When the last time you hired a young black male or teach him how to fill out an application,dress for an interview or get a bank account?You see its not just for blacks Males to do this in the Black community it is for everyone to do it black,white,mexican or other.Because we are all Americans and Christians aren’t we?

By Mari

April 20, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

TFTT,

You stated: “I NATURALLY ASSUME the sad WANKER CJ WILL FIRST TARGET HIPPETY HOP GANGBANGING BLACK and MEXICAN TYPE THUGS who murderously resort to guns daily … and ILLEGAL GUNS AT THAT … as naturally as most of us (liberals excepted) use soap and water.”

I guess you are unaware of the WHITE GANG BANGING THUGS (Aryan Nation, Dirty White Boys, Skin Heads, Hell’s Angels…and I could go on) who carry and use illegal weapons against innocent people and each other if one tries to leave the gang. You are extremely vocal when expressing your views of Black and Hispanic people on-line, but I bet you would NEVER go on one of your racist rants in the presence of either race.

Your racist, bigoted rants remind me of the crazed manifesto left behind by the Virginia Tech killer. You may want to see a professional and get some help. SERIOUSLY!

By CJ

April 20, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

This is actually the original CJ — not the one who has been posting all day. I’ve been out for a couple of weeks, but I felt compelled to step in where my namesake left off today.

jais wrote, “Plenty of people need guns CJ, and it is our constitutional right to keep them in case morons like you ever gain control the government.

jais,

Per your suggestion, I “did my constitutional research”, and it appears that you missed the first clause in Second Amendment of the Constitution. Unless you’re a member of a State militia, the right you imagine doesn’t exist.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

However, it disappoints me that you would be willing to use force to take over the government if you were out-voted in free and fair elections. Apparently you only believe in Democracy when the issues you support prevail.

First slavery — now guns. If enough people have your attitude, the Confederacy will rise (and fall) again.

By A Baldwin Brother

April 20, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

Has it ever occured to you that maybe Alex’s daughter is a rude ‘pig’? Maybe he’s doing her a favor by bringing it to her attention.

By John Wayne

April 20, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

Once again,this is not the movies! You having a gun is not going to stop some thug or crazy person from robbing you or killing you! Remember all of those CO’s,police officers & that 14 year DEA agent had guns and still could’nt stop Brian nichols.Imagine if everyone had a gun in Atlanta & you are stuck in traffic in rush hour and some old lady cuts you off,instead of giving her the finger or blowing your horn,you are going to have some hothead start shooting! There will probaly be a shooting everyday on I-285.If I see you in your BMW at the red-light and I put a gun to your head and tell you to “give it up” by the time you try to reach for your gun your brains will be blown away! So all of you macho,tough guys,stop watching Rambo,this the real world not cowboys & indians!

By Martin

April 20, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

CJ - hypothetically, if Bush(or any president in the future) were to decide he did not want to step down at election time, since he knew what was best for the country and not the person who won the election, declared martial law, and continued running the government his way, not the people’s way. Would would you want to do? Cower?

or own some guns? That is why the second amendment exists. Which has been established, by the courts, as supporting INDIVIDUAL gun ownership outside of any militia.

about Baldwin, there are many many parents who talk to their kids like he did, and do it on a much more regular basis. So what’s the big deal?

By A Baldwin Brother

April 20, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

Exactly Martin! We all say things to our kids that we shouldn’t when we are mad. Big Deal! Maybe the little brat deserved it!

BTW - you are wrong about the gun thing though.

By Thinking Clearly

April 20, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Jim, your comment that, “The United States is not the world’s policemen. No American security interests are at stake here” as it relates to U.S Involvement in Sundan is to be applauded.

However I wonder where you were when we needed you?

Our “wars” in Iraq, Viet Nam, WWI, Korea, and the list goes on, had nothing to do with American security interests either. I will even throw in WWII since we embargoed oil and steel from Japan, and goaded them into bombing us.

Are you having a change of heart?

By Mike Mc

April 20, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

Can we leave all the “hate rhetoric” at the door? I don’t know why I’m even posting on this board. I think the AJC has developed an avenue for petty, mean-spirited people to voice their displeasure with everything outside the walls of their house. Can’t we just leave what Wooten or Tucker say as is. Do we really need to comment publicly on each and everything that pops into our heads? I commend Mr. Wooten for acknowledging the merits of his colleque, Ms. Tucker. Some of the most vile, hateful words I have ever read online were posted concerning her yesterday.

By CJ

April 20, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

Martin,

When you said individual gun ownership was established by the “courts”…you meant court (singular), didn’t you?

A few weeks ago, one federal appeals court ignored years of precedent with decision after decision from both the Supreme Court and various Federal Appeals courts and claimed, with a 2-1 vote, that the individual right to own guns exists, thereby killing gun control laws imposed in the District of Columbia. That single decision contradicts the Second Amendment and Supreme Court precedent.

Of course, with Bush appointed (41 and 43) judicial activists sitting on the bench (Roberts, Alito, Thomas, Scalia) what the Constitution says is irrelevant if it clashes with their ideology.

With regard to your question about martial law, you should know authoritarian style governments have been replaced or improved many times without bullets. Did Gandhi and the people he led cower? Did John Lewis cower? Did the people of Brazil and the Ukraine cower when they overthrew their dictators peacefully? Did Nelson Mandela cower? Taking up arms is a last resort, not a first.

Also, if I had a gun in my house, the risk of somebody I love being killed with it is a thousand times higher than me having to fight a war to take back my government. I’ll go with the odds and keep the gun out.

By Willie

April 20, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

Thank God for guns. If Cho had not been able to get a gun, he might have used a tanker truck with 6,000 gallons of gas. Now that would have killed a lot more of the rich kids, and made a heck of a mess of the school.

By Willie

April 20, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

Simple, if you don’t want a gun, don’t have one. I want one. It is my right to have one. I hope never to harm anyone, HOWEVER, if harm to me is happing, I want to be returning the favor. God made man, Sam Colt, made them equal

By Rodjuan

April 20, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

‘PROSTITUTES, PIMPS, WHITE MISSIONARIES’

you don’t see a problem with such a headline?

‘MAANGY DOGS, LEPROSY, YOUR GRANDMOTHER’

you don’t see a problem with such a headline, regardless of what the body of the text is actually saying?

you don’t think SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES is an actual reality?

do you honestly think that you have to conscxiously recognize something in order for it to bury itself in your subconscious?

do you really think this WOOTEN character really gives a hoot about BLACK MALES?

HOW DO YOU BREAK YOUR FAST IN THE MORNINGS, OR DO YOU JUST HAVE BREAKFAST?

THE BIGGEST AND MOST DANGEROUS DRUGS COMES IN THE FOODS YOU ARE EATING, IT PREVENTS YOU FROM SEEING WHAT’S IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU BECOME TRUSTING AND PASSIVE, YOU BECOME THE PINK ELEPHANT.

NOW POWER THAT.

By Martin

April 20, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

CJ - certainly your right to not own a gun, but certainly my right and others to own one. Resarch gun laws going to the courts over the past 100 years, not the last month. And if it was illegal to own one, only criminals would have them. So owning one must be legal.

if we did not have guns, we would still be British. Peacefulness is not what has kept America strong.

See you at the Love-in/sitdown, as the goon-squad hauls your family away. Ain’t your dad/husband one of those troublemakers down at the sit-in

By Ugotta B. Kidding

April 20, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Hello to all my old conservative buddies. I’m sure my liberal friends will “love” hearing from me. I was reading some comments ‘bout safe sex. My wife & I practice safe sex, we do it on the floor. Hell I might break something at my age if I roll off the bed!!! And ‘bout gun control, remember if they take away our guns, only the GOVERNMENT will have guns. And with those pearls of wisdom, Til next time…your friend UgottaB

By Martin

April 20, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

And if it was illegal to own one, only criminals would have them.

and the Government.

Thanks, UgottaB.

By Fed Up!

April 20, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten, it is so easy to criticize others when you don’t have to walk in their shoes. It is true that black males have more than a few challenges to overcome, but an increase in marriage rates, by itself, will not even begin to address those challenges. While it is true that every man is ultimately responsible for himself and his lot in life, it would be irresponsible to assert that the larger society as a whole does not bear some responsibility for the negative plight of not only black males, but other minority groups, and in some cases white women as well.

Mr. Wooten, you, my friend do not have to deal with the daily challenges and stresses of black males. For example, you are likely fully compensated for your efforts at work, while according to government statistics, black males only earn 70 cents for every dollar that a white male earns (for the exact same job) even when the black male has comparable experience and education. This makes it much more difficult to support a family, save for a child’s college education, support your aging parents, or retire.

Additionally, you don’t have to concern yourself with being treated unfairly by the criminal justice system. Ask yourself, how often are white people’s criminal convictions overturned because of DNA evidence (very rarely). In comparison, almost every day there is some black person (usually male) on the news who has been wrongly convicted of assaulting a white woman or murdering a white person who’s sentence is overturned because of irrefutable DNA evidence. Further, how often have you been pulled over by police for no reason and harassed? How often do older women grab their purses when they see you approaching? When was the last time you were discriminated against on your job? (i.e. you had superior education, experience, and results but someone else got the promotion).

The point to this is that black males and other marginalized groups often have a feeling of hopelessness because we feel that the world was not set up for us to win in it. No matter how much education, experience, work ethic, or character a black male has he is still treated with disrespect and contempt by the larger society. Though not an excuse, this contributes to crime and other social ills because it is not believed by many black males that he can “win” by playing by the rules that the larger society has dictated that he play by. When he plays by those rules he is not rewarded, so he must find other means of supporting himself, his family, and his self-esteem.

By Ugotta B. Kidding

April 20, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this

Apparently Fed Up must be caught up in a time warp. My God man, what a load of garbage! Is this really Al Sharpton or Bro. Jesse Jackson? This is the kind of stupid thinking that has made both of them multimillionaires. PLease just remember this: “IF YOU ALWAYS DO WHAT YOU’VE ALWAYS DONE, YOU’LL ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU’VE ALWAYS GOT”. I’ll let you figure that out.

By Rodjuan

April 20, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

U R ABSOLUTELY RIGHT UGOTTAB, AND CERTAIN PEOPLE ARE STILL DOING WHAT THEY HAVE ALWAYS DONE AND THEY ARE STILL GETTING WHAT THEY HAVE ALWAYS GOT, JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE CHANGED THE WAY THEY ARE DOING IT DOESN’T MEAN THEY HAVE STOPPED DOING IT, THAT’S WHY THEY ARE STILL GETTING THE LION’S SHARE WHILE TELLING THE REST OF US TO JUST WORK HARD, STUDY HARD AND EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT, LEAVE THE THINKING AND THE RUNNING OF THE WORLD TO US, WE’LL TAKE CARE OF YOU.

U R ABSOLUTELY RIGHT UGOTTAB.

By Metric Man

April 20, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

Let’s measure together:

Age 15: Surrealism courtesy of Luis Bunuel and Salvidor Dali; Hero-Man rape fantasies courtesy of Ayn Rand; the “Free Market” courtesy of Neil Boortz and Alan Laffer.

Age 16: the onset of adulthood.

By Charles

April 20, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

Jim Wooten is my least concern. I am concerned about those criminal African Americans he and his people are going to put in authority over the masses of black people. Such an action will decimate the masses. Well, you can see the results. That is my main concern. To argue that a person or a people are racist is the height of insanity. Inferiority is at the core of the argument. We are arguing that a certain people will not treat us right and share their power with us! How pathetic!

The Muslim brotherhood and al-Qaeda are not concerned with the United States of America per-se. They are mainly concerned with the Iraqi government which the United States put in power over their people. That’s their primary concern. Once the United States military leaves the Iraq, the collaborators are in deep dodo.

We should understand what people who are not a part of our group are up to. They are concerned with getting as much power as they can for themselves and their people.

The people of the earth are in a great struggle for power for themselves with the exception of African Americans. I don’t think we understand the game of life; maybe we have too many collaborators.

As long as so-called influential African Americans continue to blame the poor on radio and television for the problems they themselves created, I will expose them to the light of day.

By getalife

April 20, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

Hey ug,

Finally get out of jail?

By WBurger

April 20, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

Here’s the research Martin requested:

The Second Amendment is perhaps the most misunderstood of all provisions of the U.S. Constitution. Criminal defendants and the gun lobby have repeatedly claimed that reasonable gun laws must be struck down as a violation of Second Amendment rights. Yet the U.S. Supreme Court and an overwhelming majority of federal appellate courts have held that the Second Amendment protects only a right to keep and bear arms in furtherance of a well-regulated militia.

Since our country was founded, there have been laws regulating the purchase, possession, and carrying of firearms. In the two hundred years that followed ratification of the Second Amendment, no gun law had ever been struck down based on the Second Amendment. In colonial times, for example, some states restricted gun ownership to those swearing an oath of allegiance to the state while others restricted the possession of gunpowder. In the 1800’s, states strictly regulated gun sales and possession, with many enacting legislation broadly prohibiting the carrying of concealed firearms. Courts uniformly upheld these laws against Second Amendment challenges.

In 1939, the U.S. Supreme Court decided the pivotal case of United States v. Miller, rejecting any individual right to possess firearms for purposes unrelated to the “well regulated Militia” of the States. The Court held that the “obvious purpose” of the Second Amendment was “to assure the continuation and render possible the effectiveness of” state militias, and the Second Amendment “must be interpreted and applied with that end in view.” Following that ruling, the federal appeals courts overwhelmingly rejected challenges to gun laws.

Criminal defendants and the gun lobby continued their search for activist judges who would overturn gun laws and ignore binding Supreme Court precedent. In October 2001, two judges in the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals case of United States v. Emerson suggested, in what the third judge on the panel described as non-binding dicta, that the Constitution guarantees the right of an individual to possess firearms for purposes unrelated to militia service. The court nonetheless upheld a federal law prohibiting domestic violence abusers from possessing firearms and reinstated the defendant’s indictment for violating that law. The Supreme Court denied review.

In March 2007, more than two hundred years after the Second Amendment was ratified and with the federal courts unanimously rejecting every challenge ever brought to gun laws based on the Second Amendment, the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals issued its ruling in Parker v. District of Columbia. In that 2-1 ruling, two judges struck down a District of Columbia law restricting handgun possession that had been on the books for more than 30 years. In doing so, the activist judges wrongly ruled based on their personal view rather the binding precedent of the Supreme Court and our Nation’s long history of upholding gun regulations. This anomalous ruling is now being appealed.

There are multiple cases discussing the Second Amendment, including Emerson and Parker. The myth that the Second Amendment provides a right to own guns separate from a well-regulated militia has been fostered, in large part, by a campaign of misinformation supported by those opposed to common sense gun laws. As former Chief Justice Warren Burger said, “[The Second Amendment] has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, repeat the word ‘fraud,’ on the American public by special interest groups [NRA] that I have ever seen in my lifetime.”

By Rodjuan

April 20, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

We are in total agreement on that point Charles, well said. In a collective there are various roles and positions that need manning, what we cannot afford to do is turn on each other in the face of those who vie for our permanent subjugation and destruction. I honor and respect your points of view. www.10-10-50.org is about solutions, not the usual rhetoric.

As you stated; it’s not about anti-anyone, that is a power-draining position and one based on reaction, instead we must be about pro-ourselves, that comes from the stance of power building. As u so eloquently stated, everyone else is looking out for #1, but when we do it, we’re criticized by those of us who are to afraid to speak up and out for themselves, it reminds me of the ’ massa we sick syndrome’ that afflicted some of our enslaved and tortured ancestors. www.10-10-50.org together we are strong, divided, well u know how that goes, where r we now?

By MeepMeep

April 20, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

FACT: Comparison of U.S. gun homicides to other industrialized countries: In 1998 (the most recent year for which this data has been compiled), handguns murdered:

373 people in Germany 151 people in Canada 57 people in Australia 19 people in Japan 54 people in England and Wales, and 11,789 people in the United States (*Please note that these 1998 numbers account only for HOMICIDES, and do not include suicides, which comprise and even greater number of gun deaths, or unintentional shootings).

By getalife

April 20, 2007 6:32 PM | Link to this

Add two more at NASA.

By Rodjuan

April 20, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

While we’re talking about Constitutions, let’s take a look at what UGOTTAB was so poignanly stating when he said ‘if you keep on doing what you’re doing, you’ll keep on getting what you’re getting’ let’s take a look at the 13th Amendment

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction

Now focus on ‘except as a punishment for crime…’ who do you think they are talking about? Caucasians? well that can’t be because the 13th Amendment was not written on their behalf, now was it? So based on this truth, do you think there just might be a concerted effort by some-folks to, as UGOTTAB said, ‘continue to do as they have done, in order to continue getting what they have gotten’ u know, free labor, maintenance of a pseudo-superiority complex, keep the over 400 hundred years lead they gave themselves by denying Africans the right to read and feed themselves, then after hundreds of years remove the physical chains but continue as UGOTTAB said to do as they have always done from a more subtle angle, then say to the African, you are where you are because your brain is smaller, we didn’t do anything to you, we just worked hard, and we are not now doing anything active to maintain this huge lead we have. Marinate on that.

By Charles

April 20, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

Rodjuan,

I am a part of an organization already, thank God. Although I will not disclose it because I don’t want integrationist African Americans doing our organization like they did the UNIA and Marcus Garvey. That is, begging white people to use their system of power against us. I am familiar with 10-10-50. Steve, who used to call the very questionable radio station 1380 waok often, did a great job advertising it.

Together we are strong. Divided we are weak. This is a great slogan for people within your organization. You know it can be deadly to any organization that takes in enemies for the sake of unity and strength.

By Pom

April 20, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

For the Atlantic slave trade, captives were purchased from slave dealers in West African regions known as the Slave Coast, Gold Coast, and Côte d’Ivoire were sold into slavery as a result of a defeat in warfare. In the Bight of Biafra near modern-day Senegal and Benin, some African kings sold their captives locally and later to European slave traders for goods such as metal cookware, rum, livestock, and seed grain.

By Liberal Drive-by

April 20, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

” We live in a society where individual ego is at the forefront.”

“Response”

Yeah I have a response. What?”

By Big Richard

April 20, 2007 7:28 PM | Link to this

It’s easy to see the pea brains are at it again.

By Big Richard

April 20, 2007 7:29 PM | Link to this

It’s easy to see the pea brains are at it again.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

April 21, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this

The following resolution was passed by the Vermont Senate yesterday. While you groveling red state morons suck up to a criminal charlatan, finally the decent people in the US are doing something:

Vermont’s state senators do support a resolution requiring the United States House Judiciary Committee to initiate impeachment proceedings against the president and the vice president of the United States. WHEREAS, President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney have exercised the duties of their respective offices with respect to both domestic and foreign affairs in ways that raise serious questions of constitutionality, statutory legality and abuse of the public trust;

WHEREAS, the president’s conduct in his role as commander-in-chief leading our nation into the military conflict in Iraq and the vice president’s continual advocacy for American troops remaining in Iraq have cost the United States much of the good will that was extended in the wake of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States;

WHEREAS, the president and the vice president’s domestic leadership on issues relating to individual privacy and personal liberty under law has raised constitutional issues of the greatest concern to the nation’s citizenry;

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE SENATE, that the Senate of the State of Vermont urges Vermont’s representatives in the United States House of Representatives to introduce, and Vermont’s United States senators to support, a resolution requiring the United States House Judiciary Committee to initiate impeachment proceedings against the President and the Vice President of the United States, and be it further resolved that the secretary of the Senate be directed to send a copy of this resolution to United States Represenative Peter Welch, United States Senator Patrick J. Leahy, and United States Senator Bernard Sanders.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

Well look what crawled out of the sewer this morning: Liberal Al-Qaeda’s Marxist Concubine. Worthless liberal demoncat queef stain.

Anyway, it’s hilarious watching all the diseased liberals defecate all over their sorry existences about guns. Hey jackals, wanna compare the EU’s unemployment rate and individual as well as collective wealth to ours? No, didn’t think so.

Methinks THIS pic sayeth a lot about guns and government control.

Methinks THIS one sayeth a lot about relying on a government agency to protect you.

Stupid sheep.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

While I don’t agree with Kim Bassinger releasing the tape, it was nothing more than pure evidence that Alec Baldwin is one of the worst human beings on the planet, on top of being a sickassed diseased liberal demoncat from hell. His daughter will probably grow up being an anti-authorative freak of nature diseased liberal as well. No wonder all those liberal demoncat Hollywood-head freaks are effed in the head.

By WootenDull

April 21, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

Let me show everybody just what the hysterics of a liberal mean:

[Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, September 11, 2006; A01 The chief of intelligence for the Marine Corps in Iraq recently filed an unusual secret report concluding that the prospects for securing that country’s western Anbar province are dim and that there is almost nothing the U.S. military can do to improve the political and social situation there, said several military officers and intelligence officials familiar with its contents.

Less then 6 months later:

{{{To show the reduction of al Qaeda in the city of Ramadi (Anbar), he showed before and after slides, claiming that cooperation from local sheiks has allowed the United States to almost completely eliminate terrorists and insurgents there over the last two months.}}}

Now compare that to this:

{{{The war in Iraq “is lost” and a US troop surge is failing to bring peace to the country, the leader of the Democratic majority in the US Congress, Harry Reid, said Thursday.}}}

The United States is going to win the war in Iraq and there is nothing that you libs can do to stop it.

Get used to it.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

When a lib whines about the economy, don’t they sound just so stupid?:

{{{Growth, earnings spur stocks Strong global growth and better-than-expected earnings at blue-chip U.S. companies sent stocks soaring yesterday, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average vaulting more than 150 points to a record high within reach of 13,000.}}}

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

Just when I thought it couldn’t get anymore repulsive:

{{{The court grimly described D&E: “The doctor dilates the cervix and then inserts surgical instruments into the uterus and maneuvers them to grab the fetus and pull it back through the cervix and vagina. The fetus is usually ripped apart as it is removed, and the doctor may take 10 to 15 passes to remove it in its entirety.”}}}

Remember, we’re talking about a living child here with complete pain awareness.

There is absolutely no way this can be defended but yet listen to the liberals whine about it.

{{{At most, that is the number of lives that will be saved. And since doctors can still perform D&E dismemberments, perhaps no additional babies will be born.}}}

Our work is not done.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

Remember folks, diseased liberal monkeys like Rosie O’Pig don’t think that we should be “afraid” of al Qaeda and muslofanatics. Nope, nothing to see here. Keep on keepin’ on. Whistle past the graveyard. Don’t look over your shoulder. Keep those jackass blinders on. Put that head back in the sand.

Fools.

FYI, I quit buying Ben & Jerry’s ice cream several years ago after finding out they are nothing but a bunch of liberal demoncat neoStalinists.

By WootenDull

April 21, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

{{{By Pimp Racists - Amerikkka’s al Wanker April 21, 2007 8:31 AM The following resolution was passed by the Vermont Senate yesterday. While you groveling red state morons suck up to a criminal charlatan, finally the decent people in the US are doing something:}}}

Look at these Coward liberals, cowards abroad and cowards domestically.

You are America’s bitc-hes, in need of a good slapping.

A non binding “resolution.”

What courage, what bravery, “patriotic” songs should be written about this.

Onward chicken cowards hawks

Marching on to war

Fighting against America

Unless it costs us votes

Get on your knees, “pope.”

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

Awe. Another feel good article for the sick liberals at the al Jazeera Constipation. Yesterday it was the Homestyle section and NPR flameboy John Lemley and his “partner” living on “Peach” Street (Urinal’s wording, not mine). “There’s Lemley’s baby high chair in a corner of the dining room.” Awwwweeeee. Sorry granny, you won’t be having any natural grandchildren from this couple. Peaches and snookums just don’t play that.

Now it’s a “transgendered” student at Fresno High who’s wanting to be Prom King. Awwwweeee. Get a load of this butch. And a Mexican on top of that. Looks like a taco got turned into a tamale. Heh.

By BCS

April 21, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

As a Black man our family are in troblem . we will have to do some of the hard work our self. we are part of the problem that is a fact but not all. Time to go to work black men to save our family . The time has come and now is.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

Christians REALLY">http://www.metimes.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20070420-064724-9427r”>REALLY tortured and slain in Turkey by muslofanatics. Nothing to see here folks. Nothing at all.

By Downtown guy

April 21, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

Gun control isn’t the issue…Mental illness is.

If you choose to support free and unfettered access to guns, you should recognize that crazy folks will also buy and use them.

The crazies don’t always bring guns onto campuses. They use them against their wives and girlfriends. We call it “domestic violence” and somehow we disconnect it from the malfuntioning brains of the shooters.

These folks have uncontrollable rage and undiagnosed, untreated, mental illness. The parts of their brains that would prevent them from doing something inappropriate are shut down or defective.

Often, they fill the streets and homeless shelters….without the meansto purchase a gun…and they fill the jails.

Most often, they live among us…

It’s easy to say they are “evil” and have a “moral” defect instead of admitting that we have to roll up our sleeves and develop a system of diagnosis, treatment and in some cases permanent hospitalization….paid for by us….the people of the state and the nation…

By Markus

April 21, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

Achk. The Christian murder link AGAIN by musflofanatics.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

April 21, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

Silly curly girl from Marietta, calling people out in cyberspace.

Chickenhawk. Coward.

Poof.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

While good intentioned, Downtown Dude, cracking down on the nuts in this nation won’t fly by the liberals in this nation. You see, crazies have a right to exist in free society just like criminals. Some, like Howard Scream, become politicians. Others, like Alec Baldwin, become actors. (Do we see a pattern here?)

By GA Wonk

April 21, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

Well, Jim, now you have it. A GOP controlled state that is squabbling….. like national Democrats!

And these are the folks that plan to re-write our tax code next year?

By time for the truth

April 21, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

Yesterdays pathetic puke from the lefties was most amusing … the sad wanker CJ was unable to actually HONESTLY address ANY of my factual, logical points. But the dishonest pinko dogturd of the week award goes to the t wat who puked up that fabulous, off the point hissy fit about white “biker” and nazi gangs.

NO one denies that there are murderous “white gangs” … but their impact on GA and also most of the USA is miniscule compared with black and (illegal) mexican type gangs and yoofish thugs. Outside prisons white nazi gangs have little real ‘national’ impact. Go ask the cops and the DA’s in Fulton/Dekalb/Gwinnett/Clayton Co’s if their biggest problem is white bikers/white nazis. There are also murderous oriental gangs plus the Italian mafia and the rest across the fruited plain.

My visionary, intellectually honest posts which as ever the leftist verminous scum WITLESSLY AND GUTLESSLY failed to address focused not just on black/mexican type gangs but the endless petty thuggishness of a certain knuckle dragging hefty minority of these types. I made it crystal fooking clear that such factual comments were aimed at such black and mexican type scum as appear on WSB in the nightly 10 min or so perp section. Sullen ebonics spouting black thugs are disproportionately represented night after night - and (illegal) mexican types are catching them up real fast in metro Atlanta. Obviously its not just an Atlanta “thang” … but even poor white yoofs and poor white hoods simply do NOT have the same kind of culture of thuggish scum that we see every damn day in Milwaukee, Oakland, Detroit, DC, New Yaaaawk City, S Chicago, E LA etc …

THis is the awkward fact that the leftist vermin on here ALWAYS fail to address!!

AS ever the same dishonest leftist pukes also fail to address my excellent points about the endemic black hippety hop thuggery and oppressive sexism/racism - which is again undeniable and has NO “white” parallel anywhere in the USA.

The robotic screeches of “racism” are fooking hilarious and gratefully received … come on leftist pukes … keep the dishonest, avoid the point pandering rants coming!!

By Andi's Cho Moment

April 21, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

is probably not far off.

S/he’ll smear herself with pig excrement, make a sex video with her dog and mail it to Fox, then blow up a frog with an M-80.

Pathetic.

By PoFo

April 21, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

I’m surprised that Wooten weighed in with such a callous intimation about colicky inmate’s calorie intakes.

By time for the truth

April 21, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

I see the sickster rednekkks NAMBLA has finally gotten bail on its latest child molesting charge … this sick and depraved leftist vermin needs to be immediately fed to Hizbollocks or Hamas!!

By Buy Danish

April 21, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

Downtown Guy,

Clearly this contributes to the problem and put the student population at V Tech and elsewhere in the country in jeopardy:

Federal privacy and antidiscrimination laws restrict how universities can deal with students who have mental health problems.//For the most part, universities cannot tell parents about their children’s problems without the student’s consent. They cannot release any information in a student’s medical record without consent. And they cannot put students on involuntary medical leave, just because they develop a serious mental illness

Cho had a history of terroristic threats, going back to 8th grade when he composed a hit list of fellow students for which he was suspended, but not expelled.

Who knows what psychiatric care was recommended, or insisted upon for this psychopath - if any.

Even if he had been committed at one time, the universities would not be permitted to have access to those records.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

TFTT, after reading CJ’s comment yesterday that only government entities should own guns, I have come to realize he and people like him don’t deserve this nation. Sick pathetic far leftist collectivists like that belong in North Korea. How the hell do those sickos breed.

By time for the truth

April 21, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

Absolutely right Markus … wanker CJ’s drivel yesterday showed he sickeningly cares far MORE about the rights of violent trespassing illegals and criminals than legal gun owners who respect and abide by strict gun laws. Perhaps the sad wanker CJ will soon visit you to tell you you “need to be deported” because you, like tens of millions of law abiding folks have a legally held gun. I will be very happy to show him my shiny new Glock 17 which hopefully will never ever be used in self defence. But better to have it and never have to use it than to NOT have it and need it, even once!!

By WootenDull

April 21, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

{{{By Pope Racists - Amerikkka’s al Wanker I April 21, 2007 9:36 AM Silly curly girl from Marietta, calling people out in cyberspace.}}}

Yeah, you’re a real profile in courage, a veritable second coming of Audie Murphy here.

Punk mofo.

Sitting in here everyday insulting people by calling them fa-gs, what a brave little wanker piece of scum laden sh-it you are.

Come in here this morning with a piece of chickensh-it paper, shaking it at the Commander in Chief, like it means something.

It ain’t sh-it and you ain’t sh-it.

Like a bunch of school girls making all kinds of noise and then running when the adults show up.

Stick it up your wanking as-s.

Any questions?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

The liberal neoStalinists at the Washington Compost have reviewed a book slamming teacher unions. Well, as one would expect, they are less than thrilled about it. Anything that exposes the little Eichmann liberal nazi factories like government schools will go over like a lead balloon at the Compost. Throw in that the author is Bush’s former education secretary, and you’ve got a cocktail of bedwetting.

“There is no mention, for example, of programs championed by unions in Toledo and elsewhere to weed out incompetent teachers through a system of “peer review.”“

Oh wank on it. BFD. Like a “peer review” is going to recommend actually firing the incompetent. Yeah man, and I’ve got an igloo to sell you in Florida. Not one mention by the Compost that the NEA is overwhelmingly RAT supporting. Compost. How freaking pathetic. Sickassed liberal demoncats.

By PoFo

April 21, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Cynthia Tucker!

Writing talent is so rare.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

Wait till @@ gets on here and finds out Mr. Barkie Von Schnauzer PolyParrot has been leaving droppings of liberalism in the Urinal-lined birdcage.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

HAHAHAHA!! Poor Hitllary can’t catch a break. She showed up at Rutgers and the b-ball girls dissed her. Priceless. No Hitllary, you ain’t all that.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

How many times have I said on this blog that that damned global warming is such a threat that we had Z-E-R-O hurricanes last year when a “heavy” season was forecasted and the Gorebots were scaremongering everyone?

Well lookie here. The “experts” are now saying that global warming causes windshear (that’s high level fast winds from different directions for you nipple pierced liberal freaks in Little Five Points). Windshear in turn cuts off the top of hurricanes and tropical storms and prevents them from growing.

You mean to tell me that only THIS YEAR these “experts” have come up with this theory? The hell do these people do in their spare time besides watch Al Sore propoganda movies?

By Downtown guy

April 21, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

A comprehensive policy on dealing with mental health issues is neither a conservative or liberal issue….especially when public safety is involved.

Mental illness ignores party lines. Simply throwing up your hands and saying liberals won’t support changes in policy in dealing with mental health issues and hospitalization while balancing issues of personal liberty is absolutely incorrect.

Maybe when mental health concerns rise to the levels of national security..something might get done.

I read on another blog related to autism, very harsh comments essentially giving a man a hard time. After a lifetime of paying for the needs of his now adult autistic son, he didn’t have enough resources to tend to his son’s needs after his death. His son could very well become just another homeless man on the streets.

The blogger blasting him clearly felt that we as the state shouldn’t have to help pay for his son’s needs…hardly a liberal stance

Just another mental health issue in need of national attention.

By Dusty

April 21, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Well, I was feeling very benevolent this morning in our wonderful USA. Then I read Pope’s propaganda @ 8:31.

ZAP!! May I make a suggestion? How about we write our state’s senators in Washinton and ask them to IMPEACH the state of Vermont and then deport them to Canada, the northern part of Canada.

We will ask our senators to hastily deliver this document to the US House Judiciary Committee for immediate action to remove subversive elements working against the USA.

I admit it won’t work but it will be worth a try, ‘specially if we could throw in Olympia Snow of Maine.

Now, out to the sunshine and fresh air. Georgia is so nice. No dismal fog like they have in Vermont.

By PoFo

April 21, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

Gun Control is an oxymoron.

Guns have a tendency to just “go off” by accident. People dont understand what a gun is: A gun is a Rube Goldberg/Peter Principle/Murphy’s Law Proof)

Most of the Oregon Trail pioneers who died were killed by their own firearms. They’d keep their rifles loaded and facing outward in the back of their wagons, (in case indians attacked). Then someone would give a false alarm, and the pioneers would grab their loaded weapons, which would consistently catch on junk in the wagon, and the trigger would be pulled, firing the weapon into the belly of the pioneer at point blank range. The Oregon Trail is littered with gravesites of thousands of men who died that way. (BTW: Indians never attacked, it was always a wolf or a buffalo, or a drunken yahoo, or a drunken buffalo)

That’s the truth about Gun Control. Misfires kill most people. There’s no control, and plenty of guns. Unloaded guns are the most dangerous of all. Ask yourself why.

By bugger

April 21, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

The Republican rape of Georgia continues. Jekyll Island’s stewardship has been turned over to developers to plunder and spoil the people’s treasure. Sonny and his made men steal money from us and for money sells our natural resources to the highest bidder. What lowlife dogturd scumbags. May they all burn in hell sooner than later. Finally, I get tftt.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

I sometimes have my suspicions on who runs the History Channel. They sure produce a lot of things I’d expect sicko leftists to come up with. Case in point, this Sunday night at 9pm. They will air a show on re-analyzing if Sherman really burned Atlanta to the ground and if hyperbole played into history.

The rationale is that perhaps maybe only a “part” of the city was destroyed by Sherman and that he really didn’t “burn the city to the ground.” Ok, so if a dirty bomb gets smuggled in and God forbid used in downtown Atlanta wiping out only a “part” of metro Atlanta and inhabitants, do you think that it would be underemphasized? I don’t THINK so.

By mo

April 21, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

And the State of White America needs to lead in marriage as well, because babies born out of wedlock is just as high in white America as in black America.

As a matter of fact, teen pregnancy went down dramatically, but most of these pregnancies happen in their 20s.

And Wooten, let’s not try to continue with the whole “Irresponsible Black Male” stereotype, because as a black male that is very responsible, it just stirs up anger that so-called educated people can be so ignorant and still get paid for their ignorance.

By mo

April 21, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

And the State of White America needs to lead in marriage as well, because babies born out of wedlock is just as high in white America as in black America.

As a matter of fact, teen pregnancy went down dramatically, but most of these pregnancies happen in their 20s.

And Wooten, let’s not try to continue with the whole “Irresponsible Black Male” stereotype, because as a black male that is very responsible, it just stirs up anger that so-called educated people can be so ignorant and still get paid for their ignorance.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Well the neocommie liberals at the Comedy[less] Channel are coming out with a new cartoon making fun of the entire Bush family and current Bush cabinent members. It will be broadcast on cellulars. All those Ahole liberal pigs haven’t been the same since 2000.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYeJEFa-xCA

Yeah I’d love to see a cartoon of the RAT pack. Like maybe Dirty Harry Reid sticking electrodes up our soldier’s rectums while yelling “WE LOST THE WAR!

Diseased liberal cage monkeys.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

“…babies born out of wedlock is just as high in white America as in black America.”

Hey “mo”: you need to check your FACTS before posting here. It’s highly recommended. This is not a liberal blog where you can just blindly post with emotions and what you FEEL is the truth. We fact check around here.

By Buy Danish

April 21, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

Getaclue,

Before I go, don’t forget about CNN’s role as a propaganda “tool” for Saddam Hussein when Easton Jordan was Bagdad bureau chief.

CUL8R - or tomorrow.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

Just DAMN that manmade global warming. Every time a piece of ice falls off an iceburg in the north Atantic, all hell breaks loose in liberal la-la land and an SUV needs to be torched (just not that of John “Neckbrace Breck Boy” Edwards). But when seal hunter ships get stuck in an expanse of ice, it’s Z-E-R-O press time, kinda like a Z-E-R-O hurricane season.

Save a seal, club a liberal!

By Buy Danish

April 21, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

One more post lost because of the AJC server…

Mo,

Facts:

Out of wedlock births, according to the CDC year 2000:

Blacks: 68.5 %, Whites: 27%, Hispanics 42.7%

Congratulations for not being a member of the 70 % majority.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

mo,

macaca spews right wing biased crap, so you can ignore that idiot. Its all lies.

They do not believe in the truth. They blame liberals for their failures and it is ridiculous.

Here is a classic example:

Iraqi co-author of Lancet casualty study denied visas: An Iraqi scientist who co-authored the famous Lancet study of excess civilian deaths following the invasion of Iraq was denied a visa to come to the United States to collaborate with colleagues, as well as a temporary transit visa through Britain in order to speak in Canada

Our government does not have the decency or respect to tell the truth to the American people. They do this for their ignorant base of wingnuts.

Real Americans do not like getting disrespected with ” I do not recall” bullsh-it.

We want the truth.

By PoFo

April 21, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

One has to admire Sherman. He knew what war was. Understanding war itself is the first step in understanding how to win… Sherman realized it first, then Grant. Lincoln probably knew it before his generals. (look at how he kept firing them). He was the 19th century Trump.

Lee never caught on. His motivation for leading the south was that he “couldn’t raise his sword against his beloved Virginia”. His motivation was weak. I would want a general who believed in the cause. Lee was the worst possible choice that Davis could have made. A casual glance at Lee’s attack orders reveals he knew nothing about what war is.

The civil war was won by the first side that realized that battles are unimportant, and to think in terms of winning a battle is to lose that battle.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

Yeah those FACT links are a real pain in gitmo’s @ss. So much so, the diseased cage monkey liberal never refutes them and just calls them “lies” like a good little well-trained neoMarxist zombie liberal demoncat from hell.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

Link your lies BD, you are not credible.

It hardly takes a leap of faith to figure that pet food manufacturers are buying cheap grain proteins from China which are cheap largely because they are adulterated with toxic chemicals

The first attack from China has killed our pets.

Is it in our food?

Freaking commie loving pinkos.

By PoFo

April 21, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

No loss

By jbmlaw

April 21, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

Compliments to Marcus and WootenDull - Chairman Ann doesn’t have anything on you. You guys are as funny as my friend TFTT. I wish our friends on the other side had the humor you guys show. This blog would be twice as entertaining.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

Refute MY link craponlife or SHUT YOUR RECTUM ALREADY. Filthy pathetic liar liberal demoncat.

By jbmlaw

April 21, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Apologies Markus, I kant spall.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

JBM, liberals don’t have humor. They are permanently miserable. Look at them around here. Already they are 50% on their way to having a RAT controlled Washington and they are more miserable than ever. They are miserable of course because there are people like you and I out there, that’s why. Don’t think these liberal nazi fascists wouldn’t like to snuff us out or force us to change to their way of thinking. Rotten and miserable to the core.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

GFY macaca POS,

This is funny

Classic.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Yeah didn’t THINK so, craponlife. Must be your idea of “ruling the blog” again. That, and your horsesh!t neocommunist sickassed liberal links like C&L. Sick freak. Sick, sick, sick.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

“The civil war was won by the first side that realized that battles are unimportant, and to think in terms of winning a battle is to lose that battle.”

Mr. Barkie Von Schnauzer PollyParrot would make a great history teacher in Atlanta school districts. And a great military war strategist.

sarcasm off

By getalife

April 21, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

“So I make a solemn pledge to you, as president we will be out of Iraq,” Obama said to loud applause

Here is a thought Barry, lets stop the slaughter now and hold those responsible accountable.

There has to be consequences for their pathetic actions.

By PoFo

April 21, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Using the term “liberals” reveals an ignorance unparalleled in modern stupidity.

People are liberal on some issues, and conservative on others.

The last GOP congress was liberal on spending.

The bloggers here are conservative on brain power, and liberal on hatespeak.

Why do the neo-bloggers here feel entitled to “hang around” and stink up this blog?

hatespeakers: You’ve posted the same thing (talk radio hacks) all day everyday for months and months, and you’ve shot this blog in the foot like some crazed, but near sighted student.

Do you not think that anyone else checks out hannity on the radio or boortz or rush or any of the others? You’re busted, copycats. Try thinking for yourselves. You might find a reason to confront your weaknesses and with that understanding, one of you might write something worth reading.

I’d settle for a few well turned phrases. But one good article would impress me very much.

Try reading more Cynthia. Then copy her style and format. Learn how to construct sentences and paragraphs like she does.

Then write.

Form: It’s not just for journalists anymore.

BTW. Last weekend I did a bit about the NEW REPUBLICAN PARTY and how haters need not apply and I had a whole campaign that went on for days.

WELL, Rush, hannity and boortz all took up the same line all week long. I write, Rush speaks. (like a trained seal/monkey on opiates…..or should I say, “dopiates”????

bwa.

ha.

bwa bwa

ha ha .

hahabwahahabwahabwahabwa

By Markus

April 21, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Compost has an interesting observation on John “slip-n-fall” Breckboy Edwards. The man has a hairstyle stuck in the late 80s/early 90s and he pays four Ben Franklins for it? To think this hypocrite wants to lead the most powerful nation in the world. Sick, sick, sick.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

Just in case you do not understand how sick these pathetic wingnuts really are

Like these cowards would not run for their ignorant, pathetic lives. Geez.

My man John Amato of Crooks and Liars called Derbysh-it a coward on Holmes talk show.

The coward played the victim.

They are all yours macaca.

I will stand with my piasan John.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

What’s it to you, Mr. Barkie Von Schnauzer PolyParrot? “Liberals” is just a shorter reference to LIBERAL DEMONCATS. But alas, jackal sickasses like your pathetic self are bred to split hairs of technicalities. And while we’re on the topic of copying things, why don’t you cage monkey liberals read something other than Daily Kook, muffingtonqueefpost, and other horsesnot diseases of liberalism? I post from what’s posted in internet NEWS land. If Rush or Hannity or Boortz post about it, it’s not my fault. It’s hilarious watching you dirty RATs on the left always b!tch about “why don’t you think for yourselves” every time we say something YOU don’t agree with. Finally, WHY do you come on here? The HELL do you expect to read, LEFTWING BULLSH!T???? Now go blow it out your @ss, cage monkey lib.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

One more thing Mr. Barkie Von Scnauzer PollyParrot, this is a BLOG, NOT an OpEd column. Pathetic liberal queefbag.

By Dusty

April 21, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

getalife@ 12:52,

Yes, that is why Obama is NOT going to be elected.

When we win this war, then we will leave. Not when Obama is whistling in the wind.

Since liberals like to talk about military records, what is the record of Obama? I don’t believe that being editor of a university newspaper is quite enough experience to decide when we will “leave” Iraq.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Yea, that is all you got on Edwards after bashing his wife with cancer.

A freaking hair cut.

What next?

Clinton’s nails?

Just so freaking pathetic.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

You have Z-E-R-O credibility here gitmo. Nobody takes you seriously here. Go excrete your liberal sewage links somewhere else like Daily Hos.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

If Edwards were a REAL man, he’d be AT HOME SPENDING QUALIITY TIME WITH HIS WIFE AND NOT WORRYING ABOUT POLITICS.

Pathetic beyond pathetic.

By PoFo

April 21, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

I say that General Lee was a no good, lyin’, yellow piece of confederate trash.

That’s the title of my new book.

Available in Bookstores this Xmas. Buy one for yourselves. Buy two for your friends. Buy Danish is a moron.

Bwa

Ha

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By getalife

April 21, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

Rah, rah, rah, Dusty.

Liberals blah, blah, blah.

Try something new.

You spew the same crap since you started.

This occupation for oil and defense economics is a massive failure of epic proportions.

It is time for you to accept this reality.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

Bush lied, Halliburton, liars, blah blah blah. Samosheeit from the horsesnot left queefbags.

“This occupation for oil and defense economics…”

The same was said by the daily kook diseased monkeyassed libs in 1991 and Kuwait. We own those oilfields too, don’t we? Sick, sick, sick. It must really SUCK to let emotions override one’s reason and rational thought. Pathetic beyond pathetic.

By GStone

April 21, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

In Gonzales v. Carhart, the Supreme Court, in a five-to-four decision, upheld the constitutionality of a federal law prohibiting so-called “partial birth abortions” (properly described as “intact dilation and evacuation” or “intact D & E”) despite the absence of an exception to protect the health of the woman. Gonzales reversed an earlier decision, Stenberg v. Carhart, in which the Court had held a virtually identical state law unconstitutional, primarily because it failed to include an exception to protect the health of the woman.

In the majority’s view, the critical difference was that in enacting the federal law Congress made several findings to support the legislation. The majority accepted those findings even though, as Justice Ginsburg observed in an unusually scathing dissent, those findings were nothing more than political nonsense.

Among Congress’s clearly erroneous “findings” were its assertions that no medical schools provide instruction on intact D & E, that intact D & E is never necessary to safeguard the health of the woman, and that intact D & E is less safe than alternative procedures. Each of these “findings” was and is false. In fact, many medical schools, including Chicago, Northwestern, Yale, Columbia, teach intact D & E; there is a clear medical consensus that in particular circumstances intact D & E is necessary to protect the heath of the woman; and there is a clear medical consensus that in particular circumstances intact D & E is safer than the alternative procedures.

It is not unusual for the Supreme Court to give deference even to implausible legislative findings. But the findings must at least be rational and, when a law impacts a woman’s health, the findings must be almost unimpeachable. In this instance, every federal court that reviewed these congressional findings rightly described them unreasonable, unbalanced, polemical, and unsupported by the facts.

The five justices in the majority in Gonzales have put at risk the health of women who suffer from heart disease, uterine scarring, bleeding disorders, compromised immune systems, and certain pregnancy-related conditions, such as placenta previa and accreta, as well as those women carrying fetuses with certain abnormalities, such as severe hydocephalus. In all of these circumstances, and many others, the use of the intact D & E is necessary to ensure the health of the woman.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

Daddy has enough sense not to occupy Iraq.

Jr. spoke to God.

Nuff said.

By JamesZ

April 21, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

Former President Jimmy Carter came to Iowa to speak at one of the state’s most prestigious universities. Despite the ongoing effort to discredit his recent book Palestine: Peace, Not Apartheid, over 6,000 Iowans came to hear the former President and cheer his remarks. He received a standing ovation when he began and, more importantly, a standing ovation when he finished.

In Iowa Carter encouraged voters to challenge the candidates, saying “The main reason that I wanted to come to Iowa is to make sure you realize that you can also shape the outcome of the 2008 presidential election. At least you can have screened out the candidates in both parties who are not willing to address my intriguing and complex subject for this evening, Peace in the Middle East. If they won’t make this pledge to you, which I am going to read to you, do not support them.

“And this is it: ‘*If elected President, I will do every thing possible to promote negotiations between the Israelis and Palestinians to achieve peace and security for Israel and a secure and contiguous state for the Palestinians.&’ If they won’t tell you that, do not support them.”

From the reaction he got, it was clear that Carter’s view was shared by the thousands who attended his lecture. They know America needs a new Middle East policy. They care, and they appear determined to challenge those who are running to share their concern.

God willing, it will happen.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Jr. spoke to God, and nearly E-I-G-H-T-Y P-E-R-C-E-N-T of the senate voted for him to have THE authority to GO there. Those votes included Chuckie Cheese Schumer and Dianne “old burned out dried up ex 60s hippy lib” Dianne Feinstein.

Liberalism isn’t a mental disorder. It’s a disease.

By Dusty

April 21, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Whatsa matter, getalife?

Smoke a little too much “comfort” last night? Not your usual cherry self. Just straight ol’ rabid repeat liberalism today.

Now get out of the swamp. Go to New Orleans and live it up. They need your money. They’ve spent all the millions we sent. Have fun.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

6,000 ignorant Iowans out of nearly 3,000,000. What’s that, a whopping .2% of the population? You’ve gotta luv how sick liberals play with numbers to make things sound bigger than they really are.

By Beevis

April 21, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

Jessica Alba, whose birthday is in one week, is proof of the existence of God. If I ever get to make love to her, that will be proof of the existence of miracles.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

Yep, they voted for it because the intell was dead wrong.

They admitted it was a mistake which makes them credible.

The corporate w-hore party, stay the corpse.

Big difference macaca.

When all else fails, build a wall.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I use my Andy like personality to deal with macaca.

Freaking pinkos.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

We’re THERE NOW. Besides making like Dirty Harry Reid and stabbing our troops in the back, what’s the RAT pack’s plan for Iraq? What’s Hitllary’s current position on Iraq? Yeah, that’s what I thought.

By RW-(the original)

April 21, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

GStone,

I lifted this from above since you insist on making something like intact D & E sound so pleasant.

The court grimly described D&E: “The doctor dilates the cervix and then inserts surgical instruments into the uterus and maneuvers them to grab the fetus and pull it back through the cervix and vagina. The fetus is usually ripped apart as it is removed, and the doctor may take 10 to 15 passes to remove it in its entirety.”

All this is done to a living human being you sick mofo.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

Israel withdraws from Gaza, and some peaceful muslims in Palestine blow up an American school. Remember folks, these people are just misunderstood and suppressed by the Jews in Israel.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

Actually, there is no plan because both sides do not know what to do.

I think they should cut the funding like Vietnam but get everyone out safely.

Then hold them accountable. Go back to the start of 9/11 and investigate everything.

Build more federal prisons because many will be locked up.

By RW-(the original)

April 21, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

WTF? Is Dhimmi Carter throwing his hat in the ring?

PoFo,

Gun control is a steady hand.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

RW,

Steady hand?

Unload clip just in case.

Geez.

Yes, I am pro gun.

Liberal?

By RW-(the original)

April 21, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Yes you are a flaming liberal. Anything else I can help you with?

By Markus

April 21, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

“Liberal?”

Gitmo is on some heavy, HEAVY metal today folks.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

What?

Liberals want gun control.

w has taken enough freedoms.

I am American and believe in our Constitution and rule of law.

Down with the king.

By Dusty

April 21, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

RW@ 1:50,

Maybe we can get those lovely folks in Iowa to KEEP Jimmy Carter.

They grow sunflowers there. Maybe they can try peanuts for a change. Carter’s peanut advice is much more reliable than his political advice.

PS… Would you tell getalife that we have a “plan”? He’s a little slow. Doesn’t catch on too quickly. We have to be patient with him.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

Posted previously, but for any NOOB lurkers out there, yes, there were head-in-the-sand limpwristed liberals in thinking about the threat of Hitler during the 1930s was unfounded. Just like head-in-the-sand limpwristed liberals like Rosie O’Pig who think the threat of modern islamofascism is unfounded.

http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dspolitic/pm/10429cs.jpg

By Markus

April 21, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

Jim Webb is a FLAMING liberal neoStalinist and believes in gun ownership. Try again, gitmo.

Sheesh. It’s like dealing with a stubborn JACKASS around here…

By RW-(the original)

April 21, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

By the time I could explain anything, and I mean ANYTHING to gitmolife we’ll have a prosperous and free society in Iraq and be well on our way to lasting peace in the middle east. I think sometimes it’s best to just let him babble except when he starts drooling too much.

gitmo,

I’ve seen you find far too many people guilty of crimes based on nothing but rumors from the fever swamps to believe you care one iota about the Constitution or this great country.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

Maybe you can help me out with this one RW.

The gop were howling over the executive pay act trying to block it.

It is very obvious that your party do not represent we the people, they represent corporate. Corporate w-hores ,if you will.

Why in the hell do you support a party that does not represent you and your interests?

By Markus

April 21, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Gitmo will be the one in the corner of the retirement home drooling alone in a wheelchair because he spent the last remaining quality years of pathetic existence of liberalism b!tchin’ 7x24 on political blogs (not just this one) about Conservatives and Republicans. Freak.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

I can deal with being like Webb.

Thanks for the compliment Markus.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

And why are you here macaca?

By Markus

April 21, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

“6,000 Iowans flock to see Carter!”

[out of 3,000,000 Iowans]

That’s enough neoStalinist liberal propoganda for the Urinal to produce a headline of for their liberal demoncat mental case sheeple to read.

By RW-(the original)

April 21, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

Sure thing gitmo. Conservatives realize government shouldn’t be in control of privately owned business. That’s a form of fascism. Sadly we have a whole slew of Republicans that aren’t Conservatives so the Moonbat(ic) party tends to get it’s way in destroying our country.

You’re welcome!

By getalife

April 21, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

I mean, use your brains.

If you are in the top 1%, by all means support, the gop.

They represent you.

But why else would you support a party that will not support you?

Please explain.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

Because I’m not working today gitmo, and I pay others to take care of my lawn. Tomorrow, it’s tennis time. You know, that sport you diseased liberal cage monkeys made fun of last weekend in 40 degree weather. Sick, sick, sick.

Zombie.

By Dusty

April 21, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

getalife, (2:11)

I assume you are NOT a stockholder. As a liberal, surely you would not be such a dastardly person as to support a corporation.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

I didn’t compliment you gitmo. I would NEVER do that to you. I don’t think that highly of you. You are nothing but an entertainment piece for me here. Nothing more, nothing less. I merely made a corrolation observation to your ignoranus comment about guns and liberals, that’s all. Liberal zombie.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

Have fun in those tiny shorts.

Bwaha.

Hahaha.

Bwhahahahahahaha!

No seriously, go away.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

Just sit back and watch gitmo drool folks, always entertaining.

By RW-(the original)

April 21, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

getaclue,

I prefer being allowed to succeed or fail on my own without a bunch of cradle to grave nanny state liberals patting me on the head while they steal my wallet. You know, the American spirit. Too bad you lost yours.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

Come on RW,

List the reasons why you support the gop.

Is it just the hatred of the Dems, gays, liberals, etc…?

Do tell.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

RW,

Thats it?

The gop has expanded government, big time.

Try it again, I know you are smarter than that.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Go play tennis macaca.

Adults discussing politics here.

By RW-(the original)

April 21, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I don’t support the GOP. I told them to p-iss up a rope the last time they came crawling for campaign donations. I told them to seal our borders and start prosecuting a few corrupt Democrats like Reid, Feinstein, Jefferson, Webb, Clinton, Kerry….the list is too long. Then I want them to get to work on Social Security reform and implementation of the Fair Tax

I told them that once I saw progress on these issues I would consider donating to them again. For now I’m only going to work for or donate to Conservatives that run against RINO’s in the next primary season.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I am invested and it is very easy to follow the money but I think the economic numbers are lies.

Alternative energy is the new Internet boon.

Invest wisely.

By Sam Wilson

April 21, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

A tip for Jim Wooten. Please DO NOT PUBLISH.I am a member of the Class of ‘62 at Virginia Tech.I have read that the student from our state who was killed, Mr. Clark, had a 4.0 GPA. That is a rare event at VPI. The first perfect record in the history of the school graduated in 1959. It was the talk of the campus when I enrolled in September 1958.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

There ya go RW.

I think Social Security should not be in the hands of Wall Street.

They are doing quite well in w’s economy and do not need the help.

I do believe we need a new Sheriff in town and not a political activist like Ganzo.

Many in the gop should be indicted too.

Fair tax?

Is it fair?

Flat tax?

I do not have a clue.

Good luck finding a con that is not a corporate w-hore.

I believe in a smaller government for we, the people.

You know the way it was designed.

Enforcing the laws and securing the borders.

Government for profit and lobbyists is what we have today.

It needs major reform.

By RW-(the original)

April 21, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

I believe in a smaller government for we, the people.

If there was a grain of truth to that you wouldn’t support the Peloicrats.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

“Is it just the hatred of the Dems, gays, liberals, etc…?”

You tell us, gitmo. It is YOUR fellow diseased ilk on the left that uses gay epithets on this blog to insult Conservatives. Hypocrat.

PS: I’m not going anywhere, zombie.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

RW,

Pay as you go is better than borrow and spend don’t ya think?

By glacialspeed

April 21, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

I’m pretty much convinced that the AJC is one of the worst big-city newspapers in America, and this backwards hayseed Wooten is a big part of that.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

That is too bad macaca.

Too cold for the tiny tennis shorts?

It is the postion on gay marriage, stupid.

Hell, cheney is not man enough to stand up for his own daughter.

By Honu

April 21, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Moonbat(ic)®

:-.)

By getalife

April 21, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

BTW, shrinking government should shrink your taxes.

At least go back to the Clinton goverment and try to balance the budget.

Owing the commies is not a good idea.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

“It is the postion on gay marriage, stupid.”

No, it’s the hypocrisy, STOOLPIGEON. You diseased liberal cage monkeys use minority insults all the time SOLELY because said minority is a Conservative. Condi comes to mind. I can’t help it you people* on the diseased left have mad RAT disease.

  • Disclaimer: “you people” is not reflective of any race, religion, sex, sexual orientation, Prius preference, carbon footprint size, or vegan diet preference.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

Honu,

Moonbatic,

How clever.

Would you like to contribute an opinion or just call names?

By RW-(the original)

April 21, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Quit mixing up the budget and the national debt. Paygo is simply a stalking horse for tax increases as far as the eye can see. What government program are you willing to gut?

By getalife

April 21, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

Yes macaca,

Just what has Condi accomplished?

How many times will she spew:

“I do not recall” when she testifies?

By Markus

April 21, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

Kindly note how gimolife can’t stay on topic. The topic is insults and gay/racial epithets from Ahole liberal demoncats. This, folks, is why you really don’t want to spend too much time on dealing with the disease of liberalism. Just insult the mangy mongrels. That’s all they’re really worth.

How man times did the Clintoon Klan say “I do not recall.” But hey, it’s not like we’re talking about FREAKING CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS LEADING UP TO 9/11 AND AL QAEDA BY THE CLINTOON ADMINISTRATION STOLEN FROM THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES BY CLINTOON RAT SANDYPANTS BURGER.

Worthless. Meaningless. Useless. Pointless. Dead air.

Zombietime.

By RW-(the original)

April 21, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

Markus,

Zombietime.com is a great web site.

Check this out:

Would you like to contribute an opinion or just call names?-getapair @ 3:07

Yes macaca,-getapair @ 3:12

By Dusty

April 21, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

Discussing anything with getalife is like eating spaghetti. You have to wrap it ‘round and ‘round a fork to get it off the plate.

I think we can condense his many thoughts to only one: Everybody should be in jail except liberals.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

RW, actually I stumbled on zombietime.com a while back when searching for something. I was hooked when they showed pics of all those liberal freaks protesting in San Freaksicko about something. I can’t remember now… global warming, Iraq, evil capitalism, blah blah blah. It’s all the same sh!t from the filthy RAT vermin representing the left. I just lump all their lilberal excrement in one big toilet and flush it.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

RW,

Do unto others……..

Nice strawman about me Dusty.

Its not about me, me, me.

Markus,

China and Russia are helping them too.

We have a nuclear race going on.

Free market and all that crap.

I wonder if he got mangos.

Geez.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

Why does the White House have to go through all these media @ss kissing shenanigans of psuedo entertainment? A month ago Bush had to go through it, and now again? Bush is president. He needs to tell the media who hates him to go boink themselves sideways and they’ll GET NOTHING AND LIKE IT by saying the White House won’t do this.

By Atlanta Hawks #1 Fan

April 21, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Sexual abstinance classes are a waste of taxpayers money. We should discontinue them immediately. Teens are having sex because its enjoyable and peer pressure.

Taxes, similar taxing laws are on the books of major cities in America to tax visitors. None of the other cities are in a mad rush to remove their laws so why should we.

Marriage is overrated. The benefits for men are very few other than occasional sex which is infrequent the longer the marriage. However, i agree that kids should be raised in a two parent home.

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By getalife

April 21, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

Macaca,

w thinks he is campaigning again.

Did you see what he was babbling about in Ohio?

Geez.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

Gitmo, I thought we already covered that non-mango scandal last week. Need that “right wing” Business Week link again moonbat? Just let me know powder puff.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

Gitom’s idea of “doing unto others” is stealing from your wallet by reversing Bush tax cuts and giving to slackers who vote RAT.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

“w thinks he is campaigning again.”

Well hell sh!t gitmo, the way you buttdongle liberal demoncats crow about his poll numbers and whatnot, why the hell should he NOT act like he’s running again? You freakozoids on the left sure as hell TREAT him like he is.

Stupidis uranus liberalis.

By Benen

April 21, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

Following up on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s conclusion that the war in Iraq is “lost,” National Review’s Mark Levin concluded that the remark was “so disgraceful and brazen that it could have been uttered by Tokyo Rose during World War II or Jane Fonda during the Vietnam War.” He took his outrage near its logical extreme.

“Rather than join the chorus demanding Gonzales’s resignation, let me be the first to demand Reid’s resignation,” Levin said.

Even if we put aside the fact that Reid’s comments were not substantively different from assessments offered by top generals, and even if we overlook the fact that most Americans seem to have reached the same conclusion Reid has, Levin’s harangue deserves some follow-up.

In fact, Ross Douthat, filling in for Andrew Sullivan, asks Levin the right question.

Is there any imaginable point in any imaginable conflict where Mark Levin would admit that the United States had lost a war? I don’t mean to be flip, and I say this as someone who generally thinks that the U.S. hasn’t necessarily lost in Iraq; we probably have, but the outcome is still sufficiently in doubt and the stakes sufficiently high that I want to give the “surge,” however ineffectual it may prove (or may already be proving), at least a Tom Friedmanesque six months to work.

But even allowing that Reid shouldn’t have said what he said, it’s still the case that the United States can lose wars, like any world power; that we may well lose this one (in some sense, at least); and that at some point, in this struggle or another, some American politician will say “we’ve lost the war” and be entirely correct. Given this reality, I wish Levin (and many of his fellow “till the last dog dies” Iraq War backers) would clarify whether there’s any situation in which they would greet a U.S. defeat abroad with any response save a rote invocation of the stab-in-the-back narrative.

In talking with people I know who support the war, I take a similar approach all the time. It’s rarely satisfying.

Indeed, the most common defense lately for the war is that the president’s policy (his sixth, by the way) just needs more time.

But war supporters should at least consider Douthat’s challenge. Is it even possible for the war to fail? Can the war go on too long? Can there be too many U.S. deaths? Can the cost become too great?

Yesterday, I saw a far-right blog post that was typical of those lambasting Harry Reid for his comments.

“*We are not losing in Iraq, Senator Reid, despite your efforts to deprive Iraq and America’s troops of victory when it is almost within their grasp.

We are winning in Iraq.

This is how winning feels, in the early stages. It feels like scorching heat, freezing cold, sweat, pain, agony, injury, and loss of life. That is always how it feels in wartime before victory comes.*”

That’s one way of looking at it. There is, of course, the other way — that the president’s approach to the war has failed, through a combination of incompetence, denial, non-existent planning, overly-optimistic expectations, cronyism, corruption, misjudgments, and the disconcerting possibility that Iraq just may not be cut out for a unified democracy. We can wait, but the “victory” probably won’t ever come.

The war is in its fifth year, which conservatives say isn’t enough. What about when the war is in its eighth year? Or twelfth? Or twentieth? At what point do war supporters say it’s been too long?

The war has claimed 3,317 American lives? What about when that number reaches 8,000? Or 20,000? At what point do war supporters say the fiasco has claimed too many?

The war has cost over a trillion dollars. What about when that number reaches 2 trillion? Or 5 trillion? At what point do war supporters say the cost is too high?

If their rhetoric is to be believed, the right doesn’t see a limit. For that matter, it can’t perceive of failure, in part because every development is filtered through the unflinching notion that we’re winning (more violence is good news, less violence is good news). It’s the kind of thinking that would make Stephen Colbert’s character proud — if the war cost too much and was a failure, we’d leave. Since we’re still there, it’s a victory that’s worth the cost, reality notwithstanding.

If Bush, Cheney, GOP presidential candidates, congressional Republicans, and war supporters nationally believe there is no limit to the price we’ll pay for this war, they should say so, explicitly. We’re waiting.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

“Communism has been the greatest social engineering experiment we have ever seen. It failed utterly and in doing so it killed over 100,000,000 men, women, and children, not to mention the near 30,000,000 of its subjects that died in its often aggressive wars and the rebellions it provoked.”

Only God knows how many died of Islam to Islam violence and Nazi bloodshed. And gitmo has the muff to queef about Bush. Pathetic beyond pathetic.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

The “right” (sic) does not want to admit they are dead wrong.

They blame the liberals.

Intellectual cowards.

And so it goes.

By Honu

April 21, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

getalife — Moonbat(ic)® was not directed at you. Look up^^to see if you can find the difference between my version vs. the first time the word appeared here today. I was merely correcting its legal use, ala WootenDull!!!

Sheesh…I can’t be responsible for where my posts fall on here. I’ll try not to end up near you next time. And trust me, I’ll be very specific if I ever want to call you a name.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

You only lose a war when you withdraw. We could have won Vietnam by bombing the hell out of them among other things. Only when we STARTED to use heavy ‘52 bombers in massive amounts was when the NVA even wanted to come to the table from which Nixon found the exit door.

Iraq is not lost. Deal with it liberals. We didn’t even START “winning” during WWII until well into 1943… in BOTH theatres.

This war is different. You liberal candyasses never change. Thank GOD you mindless bots on the liberal limpwrist left weren’t running this nation during WWII or Korea.

By RJE

April 21, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

My heart breaks for the 33 people who died Monday. It also breaks for the estimated 50 Americans who died on the same day as a result of inadequate health coverage. Most of them had families who loved them, too. Where is their candlelight vigil? Where are their Presidential eulogies, or their exhaustive television coverage?

Instead of receiving their moment of silence, these invisible dead face an eternity of silence.

Lack of health insurance results in the deaths of 18,000 Americans each year, according to studies compiled by the National Academies’ Institute of Medicine. That equates to 49 or 50 deaths every day. As the Institute has documented, deaths result from late identification of curable cancer and other conditions, and from inadequate treatment for a range of illnesses that include renal disease and other chronic conditions.

Many of those who die as a result of inadequate health care are older, in contrast to the young lives so full of promise that were cut down this week. But not all. The United States has the worst infant mortality of any industrialized country in the world except Latvia. The shadow of death falls disproportionately on African-Americans, whose infant mortality rate is 2.5 times that of non-hispanic whites.

Lack of insurance coverage isn’t the only factor causing these tragic numbers. Education and other social factors play a part, too. It’s shocking that a government which so actively promotes what it calls the “right to life for the unborn” is so indifferent to the wave of death that is taking down the newly-born in some communities.

The infant mortality epidemic is almost Biblical in the scope of its horror, yet too many of those who profess to read the Bible are indifferent to it. I’m thinking of people like Jerry Falwell, who rushed to send an email to potential contributors that said: “We want to honor the victims in Monday’s brutal slayings and to pray for the families of the young people who were killed. It is our responsibility as Christians to offer our heartfelt prayers and our support.”

Falwell’s email makes reference to I Peter 5:7, which says “cast all your care upon Him, for He cares for you.” But this friend to Presidents and Senators makes no mention of the verses that precede it, which include these words: “”God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.” The proud and powerful figures he consorts with support policies that enrich the already-wealthy, while leaving the disadvantaged without the health care they desperately need.

Others, too, have rushed to fill the vacuum left by horror with their own self-serving actions. Fox News and others have lavished themselves with attention, using this tragedy as a backdrop for their posturing. The President who so carefully concealed soldiers’ flag-draped coffins rushed to present himself to the public using Virginia Tech as a backdrop.

Where are the kleig lights for these other Americans - the ones struck down by economic forces? Where are the CNN specials? Why haven’t we seen Brian Williams standing in front of a community hospital telling America about this ongoing tragedy?

Our nation’s policy toward mental health deserves attention in light of the Virginia Tech horror, too. We live in the only industrialized nation in the world where mental health problems are treated as less “real” than so-called physical disorders, so insurers commonly restrict or deny coverage for mental health treatment.

Insurers are able to take advantage of our society’s Puritanical belief that mental illness is a ‘failure of will,’ or that it’s ‘all in your imagination.’ That’s a false duality. Some mental illnesses are clearly organic, like schizophrenia, while physical complaints such as non-specific back pain are often more psychological than physical. Mind and body form one whole, and it makes no sense clinically to behave as if they can be separated.

Our Manichean belief in this false separation has created a crisis in untreated mental illness, even among those who have health insurance.

As every suicide teaches us, mental illness can be fatal. As Virginia Tech reminds us, it can even be fatal to those who don’t suffer from it. We should be learning similar lessons from alcohol-related driving accidents, or the vast majority of workplace accidents that occur as a result of psychological factors.

That’s why the media’s lackluster coverage of health issues is so disappointing, especially in light of its ghoulish fascination with this week’s tragedy. Political scientist Bernard Cohen observed over 40 years ago that, “The press may not be successful much of the time in telling people what to think, but it is stunningly successful in telling its readers what to think about.”

It’s a great point (although I’d argue they’ve also becoming increasingly skillful at telling people what to think, too.) Daniel Yankelovich expanded on Cohen’s observation:

In an era of information overload, it is the media’s judgment of just how important an issue is that makes the critical difference to how seriously average Americans will take it and what action they will be willing to support - especially if the action involves inconvenience, discomfort, or pain in the pocketbook. Television this week has used the Virginia Tech tragedy to launch a round-the-clock drive for ratings, while unseen Americans suffer and die each day from inadequate health care.

Someone should light candles in their memory, too.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

OK Honu.

Michelle Maulkin would be a good description of a moonbat:

Enough is enough, indeed. Enough of intellectual disarmament. Enough of physical disarmament. You want a safer campus? It begins with renewing a culture of self-defense—mind, spirit, and body. It begins with two words: Fight back.

This moonbat and other cowards are taking about VT.

Like these cowards would fight back, scared to death of Muslims.

Geez.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

Honu, welcome to the blog. As you can plainly see, gitmo is a resident liberal freak with no life who’s “soul” purpose in life is to trash those who don’t think like him. He would have made a great Nazi. Just put your waders on to navigate through the sewage of liberalism here and you’ll be fine.

By Dusty

April 21, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Quiz time:

How many liberals are willing to sacrifice all Iraqis by deserting them in time of war?

Answer: ALL liberals.

How many liberals in Congress voted FOR that same war?

Answer: ALL but one.

When a country leaves a war and battleground to enemies, what is that called?

Answer: Defeat and cowardice.

What do liberals want in this war?

Amswer: Defeat.

What do most Americans call that?

Answer: Betrayal.

By Markus

April 21, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

Gitmo’s obsession with Conservative columnists exceeds only his stupidity. Yeah I sit around all day posting what dumbassed liberal demoncat columnists excrete all day.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Another strawman about me.

I am flattered but once again, it is not about me.

Focus macaca.

I have seen Honu at RW’s blog.

You should go there and talk about us “liberals”.

I will not be there to argue with you, so you will will win that debate only.

By getalife

April 21, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

You are losing it.

That is not worthy of debate.

Check the vote to occupy Iraq.

Use the google.

The rest is sheer stupidity.

Rush like rhetoric.

Geez.

By WootenDull

April 21, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

So what do you spineless cowards got planned for Monday?

You gonna write na-na-na-na-na on some toilet tissue, throw it at the president’s back when he isn’t looking and then run?

Such brave little filthy as-ses you are, pink pantie wearing back seat driving Monday morning quarterbacks, never afraid to run your mouth as long as there are no Muslims around.

Such courage to fight against your own country during a time of war, to stab it in the back the same way that our enemy would like to, spend the whole day undermining the Commander in Chief, neglecting the business of Congress so that you can cavort around naked on some pointless voter drive, showing the world that we are governed by a scurrilous bunch of candy as-ses and if it wasn’t for the Men in the executive, they would surrender their little narrow punk rear ends to the cut throat Islamic terrorists.

Abandoning freedom and democracy, dragging millions upon millions into slavery and oppression, this is not your daddy’s democrat party.

You libs need to suck off.

Seriously.

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By Feldt

April 21, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

[The] partial birth abortion ban is a political scam but [also] a public relations goldmine. … The major benefit is the debate that surrounds it.” — Randall Terry

So said the founder of Operation Rescue, a militant anti-choice group that blockaded abortion providers, in 2003.

Wednesday’s U.S. Supreme Court decision (Gonzales v. Carhart) upholding the federal abortion ban is the fruition of that pubic relations goldmine. It is a travesty of language bought and repeated endlessly by journalists who were sometimes uninformed and sometimes just too lazy to get it right.

Indeed, the travesty of language around abortion is so pervasive that even Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing the decision for the court’s majority, in addition to using the inaccurate term “partial birth abortion,” also referred to the “abortion doctor” repeatedly in the ruling. Why did he not simply refer to doctors as “doctors,” or “ob/gyns”? If another surgical procedure were under scrutiny, would he have he referred to “tonsillectomy doctor” or “hysterectomy doctor”? Of course not. But those who want to take away entirely a woman’s human right to make her own childbearing decisions have used the term “abortion doctor” for so long as an epithet that they have succeeded in getting even the highest court in the land to adopt their language.

Such bias is just the tip of the iceberg in the battle over what losing plaintiff Dr. Leroy Carhart has called “partial truth abortion.” There is no such thing as partial birth abortion. The term will be found in no medical book. It was coined in 1995 by Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right-to-Life Committee, and former Congressional representative and current Florida appeals court judge Charles Canady explicitly to confuse, horrify, and deceive — to manipulate language with the intent of sensationalizing the abortion debate. In particular, they intended to take the focus away from the woman in order to place the greater value on the fetus. Leading medical associations all agreed it was a misleading term, but the media never checked their language and by 2001, 90% of articles were using the term without so much as a “so-called” attached. As I reported in my 2004 book The War on Choice, an AP managing editor admitted when challenged that “partial birth abortion” was emotionally loaded, but said they continued to use it because it was instantly recognizable. Another major daily newspaper editor admitted it wasn’t correct but said it was easier to use than alternatives.

An almost identical abortion ban was found unconstitutional by a different Supreme Court in 2000. Elections have consequences. Since then, President George W. Bush has had the opportunity to appoint two new justices who are ideologically in synch with the biased language. That shift made all the difference to women today and tomorrow.

Now we have a landmark Supreme Court decision, built upon the counterfeit foundation of a made-up term that the media accepted and used uncritically, and that has propelled the highest court to issue a ruling permitting a law that at a minimum:

  • Does not provide adequate exceptions for a woman’s health, which means that a fundamental legal principle of the primary importance of women’s health has been overturned.

  • For the first time upholds a federal law that steps directly into the physician’s exam room and tells him or her what medical technique cannot be used even if the physician’s judgment is that it is the safest to protect a patient’s health and future fertility.

  • Will not reduce the number of abortions but will over time, according to the doctors who know women’s health best, cause an increase in medical complications, and possibly even deaths.

  • The public relations goldmine of those who aim for nothing less than to eliminate reproductive justice at all times from all women has paid off for them. Language, after all, has consequences too.

    By Dusty

    April 21, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

    Benen and RJE,

    Could you wrap your anti-war sentiments in a smaller package? You know. A little brevity. Thank you.

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

    I’m not interested in other blogs gitmo. This one serves me fine. So long as you sick liberals continue to flock here like mangy homeless mutts anyway. If you don’t see yourself as a liberal, that’s your right of course. Being a gun owner doesn’t make you a non-liberal. Denial is but the first step to reality, but I have yet to come across a liberal (demoncat) who lives in the real world. Suit yourself.

    By getalife

    April 21, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

    And yet you are still here.

    Are you really that stupid macaca?

    No Andy.

    macaca might.

    Geez, can I get some competition?

    Yawn.

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

    Hilarious. Gitmo tells me to “focus” while he can’t even stay on topic of gay/racial epithets hurled by fellow dirty RATs on this blog.

    No, you can’t make up a character like gitmo. One of a kind there, that’s 4 sure.

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

    Gitmo asked for a link backup of a comment about black vs. white out of wedlock births and then ignores it when it’s presented. Then gitmo has the muff to ask about competition.

    No, you can’t make up a character about gitmo. Just sit back and watch the liberal dimentia at fine work.

    By RPerlstein

    April 21, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

    First, they came for the spinach.

    I remember the day last September. The supermarket had a new kind of salad dressing, one that looked like it would taste good with spinach. I went to the produce section to buy a bag. But they all had been recalled. Three people had died from E. coli contamination from eating spinach. I decided I could live without the spinach.

    Next they came for the peanut butter, and I didn’t pay much attention. I don’t much like peanut butter.

    Then they came for the tomatoes. Then the Taco Bell lettuce. Then the mushrooms, then ham steaks, then summer sausage. I started worrying. Then, they came for the pet food.

    I remember the sinking feeling, hearing that dogs and cats had died eating contaminated food. Then the flash of guilt—had we poisoned our dogs? I remember hearing the name of the manufacturer, my wife searching the web frantically for a catalogue of its products, the stab of fear when we found the name of the food our own dogs eat. Then the wave of relief—it was only canned food; our dogs eat dry.

    I began investigating more. One of the things I learned was that the Food and Drug Administration hasn’t been able to confirm “with 100 percent certainty” that the offending agent didn’t go into human food. Then it neglected to reveal the name of the tainted product’s U.S. distributor.

    It is time to get to the root of the problem. I blame the conservatism.

    I’ve been studying the conservative turn in American politics pretty much fulltime since 1997. I never was a conservative. But I admired conservatives. The people then running the Democratic Party just did not seem to me strong people. They were “triangulators”—splitting every difference, selling out any principle, in the ever-illusive quest to divine the American people’s fickle beliefs at that particular moment. They did not lead. They followed—Chamberlains, not Churchills.

    I wrote a book that came out in 2001 about the conservatives who took over the Republican Party in the early 1960s. Whatever my differences with them ideologically, I didn’t write a single negative word about the conservative movement for nearly seven years. Until then, I considered them honorable adversaries. They inspired me. They took risks for a cause. They were principled. They were endlessly determined.

    I’ve come to different conclusions now. They were, yes, endlessly determined. It was over 35 years ago, in “Conscience of a Conservative,” when Barry Goldwater wrote these stirring words: “I have little interest in streamlining government or making it more efficient for I mean to reduce its size.” Twenty years after that, President Reagan intoned at his first inaugural address, “Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.”

    But Barry Goldwater lost his 1964 presidential race in a landslide. Reagan was inaugurated, and we began seeing headlines like “Wide Spectrum of Regulations Set for Reagan Team’s Scalpel.” But actually, the Reagan team wasn’t able to deregulate all that much, or nearly as much as they wished; the political obstacles, in the 1980s, were just too great.

    For these brief four years, however, between the Republican takeover of the Senate in 2002 under President Bush and the recent return of Congress to Democratic control, the scalpel has become a machete. We’ve been able to witness a natural experiment: What would have happened if Goldwater and Reagan had been able to get their way?

    Surveying the results, what once looked to me like principle now looks to me now like mania. Conservatism has been killing Americans. The recent food safety crisis is only one case study.

    Let’s start connecting the dots.

    The Associated Press studied the records and found that between 2003 and 2006 the Food and Drug Administration conducted 47 percent fewer safety inspections. FDA field offices have 12 percent fewer employees. Safety tests for food produced in the United States have gone down by three quarters—have almost ground to a halt—in the previous year alone. What does that mean, in practical terms? Consider the peanut butter.

    Factories producing the foods most susceptible to contamination, such as fresh fruits and vegetables, are supposed to be inspected every year. (That’s cold comfort to those who ate this year’s bad batches of spinach, lettuce, cantaloupes and tomatoes.) Since the last known outbreak of salmonella in peanut butter was in Australia in the 1990s, that puts it in the “low-risk” category; peanut butter factories are inspected only every two to three years.

    People started getting sick in February. Researchers at the Centers for Disease Control traced the illnesses back to a single plant in Sylvester, Ga. The next day, the FDA arrived for a post hoc inspection (by then 425 people in 44 states had been sickened). Then they covered their own back : “What you saw with the spinach and certainly what you saw with the peanut butter, is when we see those signals, we’re going to act to protect the public health,” a spokesman promised.

    He was saying: The system worked. In a sense, he was right. This was the system working as it is presently designed. Barn door: closed. Cow: already long gone. That, basically, is as good as it gets in the modern FDA.

    As Dr. Phil would say: How’s that working out for you?

    Not so well, it turns out. It was months later before we learned the eminently preventable reason our peanut butter had been poisoned: a leaky roof and a faulty sprinkler provided the culture for the salmonella bug at the Georgia plant. How did we find that out? Not from the FDA inspection. We had to rely on the company’s own investigation. They had a public relations crisis on their hands. They want to return Peter Pan Peanut Butter to shelves in the middle of July. So they undertook their own belated, two-month investigation. The Georgia plant will open in August—with the new roof the FDA never noticed they needed in February.

    Public relations has a lot to do with the way you’ve been learning about the Third Worlding of America’s food safety system. The Georgia source of the bad peanut butter was discovered in the middle of February. The very next day Dole recalled several thousand cartons of cantaloupe that their own “routine” inspections suggested might be carrying salmonella. Four days later, B.J.’s Wholesale Club recalled packaged fresh mushrooms: more routine inspections, this time coming up with E. coli. They always say the inspections are ” routine.” But they also always manage to somehow come in clusters.

    Connect the dots, and you suddenly notice a lot of these …coincidences. Last month the FDA abruptly announced new rules for fresh-cut produce. They claim it’s a huge step forward. “We’ve never before formally recommended that the industry adopt such regulations,” said a spokesman. But, oops: he’s hustling you. Meat inspections are mandatory. Produce inspections will remain voluntary.

    George Bush’s Food and Drug Administration—and our other major food-inspection arm, the U.S. Department of Agriculture—are Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan’s noble words made flesh. But don’t let your family get too close to the flesh. They might get sick and die.

    I’ll leave you with this quote from a disgruntled FDA inspector on this “huge step forward”—voluntary inspections. “Let’s be honest,” he said. “The plant people are not going to slow down the lines for something they find wrong. How often do you hear of a highway patrolman giving himself a ticket for speeding?”

    By getalife

    April 21, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

    Yes, keep it short for Dusty.

    Not the sharpest tool in the shed if you know what I mean.

    That is her argument but I would have to agree and appreciate the informative posts.

    I also agree with Feldt’s post.

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

    You are here 7 days a week gitmo, let alone wasting your pathetic life on OTHER blogs. I’m not and don’t. Try again, loonbat.

    By Dusty

    April 21, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

    Getalife is THE real macaca

    And he aint smoking t’bacca.

    When he runs his mouth

    His brains go south

    So he never notices he’s whacko.

    By WootenDull

    April 21, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

    {{{By Feldt April 21, 2007 4:34 PM But those who want to take away entirely a woman’s human right to make her own childbearing decisions have used the term “abortion doctor” for so long as an epithet that they have succeeded in getting even the highest court in the land to adopt their language.}}}

    Look, clown, if I wanted to read a novel about why you want to kill defenseless infant children in the most vile and repulsive method that you can think of, I’d go buy one.

    This isn’t that hard to understand.

    Puke out your disgusting argument in short, concise bursts of foulness.

    Spare us the whining.

    Murderer.

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

    If we want to read a book, we’ll go to B&N. Thanks.

    By mo

    April 21, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

    Actually, Markus and whoever else out there:

    Out-of-wedlock births is 40% and 50% respectively- via the New England Journal of Medicine.

    This is based upon data collected last year… 2006.

    Births as a whole has went down within white women, but out-of-wedlock births has actually gone up.

    Oh, and by the way, the highest out-of-wedlock birth rate is among the Hispanic population… but they will soon be the majority (within 5 years).

    But, you can go out a find birth rates fluctuating up and down- depending on which fringe website you may want to peruse.

    Keep feeding the lie!

    mo

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

    “mo”: did you read my link, and better yet the valid SOURCE of my link? YOU were the one that brought up the racial aspect counter to what Wooten said. Look, if you believe the earth is flat, Bush allowed 9/11 to happen, and we never landed on the moon, I’ll let you. You have every right to be a jackass ignoranus. But you will NOT get away with mindless liberal psychobabble here any more than you will NOT get away with changing the subject when cornered.

    Keep on keepin’ on “mo”. Mo power to ya.

    By getalife

    April 21, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

    Very lame crusty.

    Thanks mo,

    He wants racial argument and I will not engage in that with him.

    Andy has a parrot .

    By Susie

    April 21, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

    So World Bank Prez Paul Wolfowitz’s siphoning of dollars to tip his mistress has backfired. This wasn’t the spanking he had in mind.

    Woe is he! The whole bank staff booed him when Wolfie tried to “explain,” and you can hardly blame them.

    The hubris of Bush’s unpopular appointee provides the “sexy” reason the Bank’s Board can use to force his removal, since apparently ruining the world on the whim of one’s own conceits is not cause for dismissal.

    Fascinating that Wolfie, the son of a fervent Zionist who taught himself Arabic and became one of the major architects of neoconservative hawkery, is madly enthralled with a Tunisian/Libyan/Syrian/Saudi Muslim, Shaha Riza, a woman described as a “feminist”.

    Shaha was apparently determined to take down Saddam Hussein, and is bitterly divorced from her Turkish ex-husband, a Caspian oil expert who opposes Bush and the Iraq invasion.

    Meanwhile, Wolfie’s wife, Clare — that’s right, he’s not divorced — is reported to have written George W. warning him years ago that her husband’s adultery could jeopardize national security!

    “Shock and Awe” is starting to make sense now …

    S & A is the new S & M!

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

    “And the State of White America needs to lead in marriage as well, because babies born out of wedlock is just as high in white America as in black America.”

    That’s “mo” at 11:14am folks. Liberals…

    By getalife

    April 21, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

    Great post Susie.

    Do you hear that?

    That was the sound of the other shoe dropping on wolfie.

    Geez, family values and all that crap.

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

    Note to NOOBs… or resident ID poofers using new IDs: “Zionist” is a phrase that will get an immediate dismissal of any credibility in any link or post comment.

    Please adhere to Conservative rules.

    Thanks.

    By WootenDull

    April 21, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

    {{{By Susie April 21, 2007 5:02 PM S & A is the new S & M!}}}

    Let’s see here, Bill Clinton has a ho in every area code, not counting his chubby legged little dy-ke of a wife, and does anybody want to bet me that Susie would defend his philandering as-s to the grave?

    Hypocrite.

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

    By getalife

    April 21, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

    Her post is about wolfie Andy.

    Try again.

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

    “Andy has a parrot.”

    Like minds think alike, isn’t that right Daily Ho Muffqueefin’ gitmo? Hey.. that rhymes…

    By Susie

    April 21, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

    Markus,

    Wolfie’s old man referred to himself as a Zionist. Don’t like it? Take it up with him.

    Susie

    P.S. Sorry one of your heros, Wolfowitz, let you down. I know how much you believe in family values, Dan Quayle, and all that crap.

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

    Susie, don’t worry about me. You know nothing about me and my thoughts on our current alleged Conservatives in Washington. I doubt very seriously Wolfie bragged about his father being a Zionist. Kinda like your boy Al Sore never bragged about his father not voting for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (along with KKK Byrd)? No, don’t worry about me little liberal muffin tin. I’ll be alright.

    By Dusty

    April 21, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

    Awww nutsy, mutsy getalife (I can call “names” too),

    I thought my 4:49 was worth one of those give-away Pulitzers. Guess I’m not liberal enough.

    Anyway, you can discuss Wolfowitz with liberal Suzie and tie all actions to President Bush. No shock or surprise there.

    DNC must have sent out some new material today.

    By getalife

    April 21, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

    We are the majority, we make the rules.

    Debate the posts, no strawman(personal attacks).

    I yield the floor.

    By getalife

    April 21, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

    Dusty,

    w appointed him and has his fullest confidence (sic).

    In other words, he is doing a heck of a job like Ganzo.

    Of course, he is involved.

    Where does the buck stop Dusty?

    By Michael Ollie Clayton

    April 21, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this

    REVEALING BOOK TELLS ALL ABOUT NASA ASTRONAUT

    NASA Astronaut Yvonne D. Cagle, head of the medical training team, is the subject of a new book that reveals intimate details of her first marriage to writer Michael Ollie Clayton. In the book, titled, The Captain & The Rebel, and written by Clayton, Cagle is portrayed as a stubborn, unaccommodating spouse who used leverage and her stronger economic position to make life miserable for her then husband. Indeed, the book offers insight into yet another member of the astronaut core that runs counterintuitive to the hallowed image the cadre is projected to be by the agency.

    Cagle is seen as manipulative and hard-nosed in the book. But Clayton is hardly one-sided. He reveals his own foibles to an excruciating fault, and thus brings balance to The Captain & The Rebel. The back cover reads, “She was establishment, he was an iconoclast. She was commissioned, he was enlisted. Yvonne followed the rules, Michael broke them. The Captain & The Rebel is a true story about current NASA astronaut Yvonne Cagle’s and writer Michael Ollie Clayton’s stormy engagement, marriage, and divorce. A male The Color Purple in Clayton’s words.”

    The 168-page book is a high-energy, no bars held, biting tale of domestic tranquility gone sour. Said Clayton, “With all the things happening with some of the people at NASA of late, I almost feel guilty about the timing of the book’s release. But this is a story that has been festering for a while. It had to come out of me. I had to release this story, at least the artist in me had to. Society usually focuses on the powerful male in a marriage, but this is a chance for the world to read about how a female with unchecked power runs roughshod over her faithful, though hardly milquetoast husband. The roles are completely reversed, and even so, you find that power is still absolute.”

    Clayton went on, “Were it not for the blessing bestowed upon the citizens of the world by the phenomenon of the internet’s digital democratization this book may have never seen the light of day.”

    The Captain & The Rebel (with preview chapters) is available (print or download) at www.lulu.com or www.lulu.com/michaelclayton . Hardcopies of the book are available upon request.

    author contact info: Michael Ollie Clayton 318-649-6631 moclayton@bellsouth.net

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this

    “Debate the posts, no strawman(personal attacks).”

    EXCELLENT advise, gitmofreak. Now why don’t you take your own advice, liberal loonbat?

    By Buy Danish April 21, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

    Mo,

    Facts:

    Out of wedlock births, according to the CDC year 2000:

    Blacks: 68.5 %, Whites: 27%, Hispanics 42.7%

    By getalife April 21, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

    Link your lies BD, you are not credible.

    By Markus April 21, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

    Refute MY link craponlife or SHUT YOUR RECTUM ALREADY.

    By getalife April 21, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

    GFY macaca POS,

    The disease of liberalism cannot be described. It can only be proven.

    By getalife

    April 21, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

    Sir, your comments will be stricken from the record and you are not permitted to spew the rest of the day.

    You are out of order.

    Go sit in the corner.

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

    Ok the Urinal server has some freak going on with certain non-HTML characters separating sentences in posts. I’ll try something else next time. Sheesh.

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

    Gitmo is about to have a freakout. Reminds me of watching those wacky Japanese politicians punch each other.

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

    Only in Gitmoland does this sick pathetic cretin think all thought and blogs are now controlled by RATs because they conrol (BARELY) Congress.

    You read it here, folks. No hyperbole by me is needed. This is what you asshats get for not voting with your disgust (and rightly so) of Republicans.

    More of this to come if one of those asspirates on the left gets the White House.

    T-H-I-N-K about it folks, and keep what gitmo has posted all day in the back of your mind as well.

    By WootenDull

    April 21, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

    {{{The last stop on Cho Seung-Hui’s killing spree was Mr. Librescu’s classroom. The professor blocked the unlockable door with his body to hold out Cho while shouting for his students to escape through the classroom windows. Cho overpowered Mr. Librescu, pushed his way into the room and shot the professor in the head. All of his students survived.

    For giving his life to save his students’ the benevolent Liviu LIbrescu is the Noble of the week.}}}

    Amen.

    By RW-(the original)

    April 21, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

    Of all the idiotic restrictions they put on the scribblers blog the one good was the post length limiter. In fact they should make it even shorter and implement it here.

    I can see why WootenDull is snoring, he must have actually tried to read those rambling Moonbat(ic)®<——-thanks Honu, manifestos.

    Was there any substance to them WD?

    By getalife

    April 21, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

    Amen Andy.

    By Norm

    April 21, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

    In the world of U.S. mainline journalism, the boilerplate legitimacy of official American violence overseas is a routine assumption.

    In recent decades, the trends of war have been clear. A majority of the dead — estimated at 75 to 90 percent — are civilians. They are no less innocent than the more than 30 people who suddenly died from gunshots at Virginia Tech.

    We grew up with — and continue to see — countless movies and TV programs showing how certain people with a handgun, a machine gun or missiles are able to set wrongs right with sufficiently deft and destructive violence.

    Everyone who isn’t deranged can agree that what happened on April 16, 2007, at the campus of Virginia Tech was an abomination. It came about because of an individual’s madness. We must reject it without the slightest equivocation. And we do.

    Yet George Will has it wrong when he wrote that the first task of government should be “to establish a monopoly on violence.” Government should work to prevent violence — including its own.

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this

    I guess gitmo “ruled this blog” again today. Please hold the laughter down folks, somewhere children are sleeping. We always welcome entertainment here, but keep it down, please.

    By WootenDull

    April 21, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this

    {{{By RW-(the original)April 21, 2007 5:45 PM Was there any substance to them WD?}}}

    Not much, some guy whining about a woman’s “right” to butcher her unborn baby.

    They’re sick, Lord, so sick.

    {{{By Markus April 21, 2007 5:35 PM Ok the Urinal server has some freak going on with certain non-HTML characters separating sentences in posts. I’ll try something else next time. Sheesh.}}}

    Markus, the libs at the Urinal have found a covert way to censor Conservatives, they know that most libs are too hapless and stupid to link, see our book posters^^ for a good example, so they have gone to eliminating posts with links in them.

    So I don’t link anymore.

    I’ll bet this counteraction of mine has caused many, many sleepless nights and gnashing of teeth amongst the pinko® nation, burning the midnite oil trying to find a new way to silence us.

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

    Hey “Norm,” please see this link and deal with reality before being a typical hysterical lib and whining about America’s civilians who happen to commit murder.

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

    Well WD, I’ll still give links shots. Here’s another:

    Protesting for Idiots!

    FYI, I think I remember Wooten saying all posts will be limited to three links. Peace bro.

    By WootenDull

    April 21, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

    {{{By Markus April 21, 2007 5:54 PM I guess gitmo “ruled this blog” again today.}}}

    Markus: I’m going to have to disagree with you that gitmo ruled the blog today, or any other day for that matter, I’m withholding my judgement until all of the facts are in.

    I will, however, say that he was the most stoned blogger today by far, he’s had some exceptionally good luck with the intoxicants lately.

    But, he only took that title because finch didn’t burst in, I’ll garuantee you that dude is wasted where ever he may be.

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

    By Markus

    April 21, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this

    “I did rule this blog and I yield the floor.”

    The dimentia of liberalism is not a mental disorder. It’s a disease. All hail the psuedo dominatrix gitmo in his pink thong!

    Snap that thong gitmo.

    By RW-(the original)

    April 21, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

    Is this you, getalife?

    WootenDull,

    I think you meant to say that the sick bastard was whining about a woman’s “right” to butcher her partially born baby.

    By Bob

    April 22, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

    Having gun control is just letting, murderer’s, burglars and robbers have guns, but law abiding citizens can’t own guns. (Murderer’s, burglars and robbers don’t abide by the laws).

    By mo

    April 22, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

    See, we use outdated data (from the year 2000) to make a case. And when we quote from a source that uses data collected from 2006, it’s called “Psychobabble.”

    Are you all the thought-leadership of the Republican party?

    Oh, and by the way, I do not always disagree with Wooten or many conservatives in many areas, but you all are totally missing a great opportunity here.

    There are many black people who consider themselves conservative that will never join the Republican party. Why?

    BECAUSE OF MISLEADING FACTS TO GIVE AN APPEARANCE OF BLACK INFERIORITY!

    If the Republican party can somehow throw out the racists…

    But I guess you all run the Republican Party just as Moveon.org runs the Democratic Party.

    (I pray, really pray for moderation.)

    By curly

    April 23, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

    mo, marcus provided an excellent link with data from 2004-2006; i’m not sure why you have such a hard time with reality. the truth can be painful.

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